Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Vikings beating da Bears on MNF, Russ STILL QB1 + Daiyan Henley joins

Summary

Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1 - Vikings Beat Bears on MNF, Russ Still QB1, Daiyan Henley Joins

Date: September 9, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe, with Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
Special Guest: Daiyan Henley (Los Angeles Chargers LB)

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap serves as a post-game breakdown for the Monday Night Football clash between the Minnesota Vikings and Chicago Bears, analyzes Russell Wilson’s recent play with the New York Giants, and features an interview with Chargers linebacker Daiyan Henley. Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson offer sharp analysis, candid banter, and memorable stories, keeping it authentic and lively throughout.

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Main Segments & Key Discussion Points

1. Vikings vs. Bears Monday Night Football Recap

Timestamps: 03:00–21:00

• Game Flow:

  • Shannon sets the scene: Vikings steal a dramatic road win, rebounding from a 17–6 deficit to beat the Bears 27–24.
  • Noted how quickly momentum shifted: “At one point this game was 17–6 in Chicago’s favor and the next thing you know it’s 27–17. That’s just how quickly this game turned around.” (Shannon Sharpe, 03:10)

• Quarterback Play Analysis:

  • JJ McCarthy (Vikings): Praised for resilience after a pick-six, then leading two touchdowns for the win in his first start.

    • “To throw a pick six on the road and not get down and to come back and throw two touchdowns and win this game? In your first start? Give JJ McCarthy some credit.” (Shannon Sharpe, 08:12)
    • Comparison to Vikings legend Fran Tarkenton: “JJ McCarthy is the first Vikings quarterback with multiple touchdown passes in his first NFL game since Hall of Famer Fran Tarkenton in 1961.” (Shannon Sharpe, 19:43, 21:00)

  • Caleb Williams (Bears):

    • “Caleb Williams looked like Houdini back there, one of the few quarterbacks in the NFL that can make something out of nothing.” (Chad Johnson, 08:24)
    • The Bears’ O-Line massively underperformed. “If Caleb Williams was Jared Goff, he’d be sacked 10 times tonight.” (Shannon Sharpe, 06:55)

• Critical Plays & Coaching:

  • Detailed technical breakdown of JJ’s ill-fated out route and what went wrong: “If you’re late and inside on that deep out—got a reservation for six in the end zone.” (Shannon Sharpe, 06:50)
  • Ocho on arm strength and placement: “It’s all about placement. You want to miss far rather than miss inside.” (Chad Johnson, 09:47)
  • Recognition for Vikings’ DC Brian Flores: Defense played fast, got pressure, “Van Ginkel and Hargrove were flying around.” (Shannon Sharpe, 13:05)

• Bears’ Disappointment:

  • Heavy investment in O-line ($94M, $55M this year) hasn’t paid off yet.
  • Chad offers context: “I’m not throwing caution yet—week one. If things still look this bad in weeks three or four, that’s when I’ll worry.” (Chad Johnson, 18:07)

Notable Quotes

• “You got to give Minnesota credit…if you had told me through three quarters this team would come back and win, I’d have said no way.” (Shannon Sharpe, 13:00)
• “Momentum… it swings. How much of a gap can you create before the other team gets it back?” (Shannon Sharpe, 15:06)

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2. Russell Wilson Still QB1 for the Giants

Timestamps: 25:00–36:00

• Russell Wilson’s Recent Performance:

  • Remains NY Giants starter vs. Dallas; rookie Jackson Dart waits in the wings.
  • Giants’ offense struggled: “Russ went 17 of 37, 168 with no touchdowns… especially ineffective under pressure.” (Shannon Sharpe, 25:09)

• Quarterback Dilemma:

  • Ocho: “If Russell is your head chef, let him cook until he loses his job. Why prep Jackson Dart now and mess up Wilson’s rhythm?” (Chad Johnson, 27:33)
  • Shannon: “You keep saying ‘let Russ cook’, but people keep sending the dish back.” (Shannon Sharpe, 28:41)

• Giants’ Brutal Schedule:

  • Upcoming slate includes Dallas, KC, Chargers, Saints, Eagles, Broncos, Niners… “Smoker” of a stretch.
  • “Unless something unforeseen happens, they’re gonna have to play their ass off.” (Shannon Sharpe, 31:41)
  • Team is likely to be underdogs in almost every game through November.

• Rookie QB Perceptions:

  • “People are more sympathetic to a rookie not getting a first down. Russ…just a placeholder.” (Shannon Sharpe, 34:47)

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3. Offensive Line & NFL Transitions

Timestamps: 36:00–41:00

• Discussion on recent college O-line draft busts, the difference between college accolades and pro effectiveness.
• “A lot of those offensive linemen from Alabama…didn’t pan out. Them guys in the NFL don’t give a damn about your name.” (Shannon Sharpe, 38:55)
• “All the stuff you did in college—unless it carries over, you’re gonna get exposed.” (Chad Johnson, 40:42)

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4. Charger LB Daiyan Henley Joins

Timestamps: 44:39–69:44

• Chargers' Big Win & Harbaugh Era:

  • Henley discusses the team’s Friday win, setting a new culture: “We’re in a different era now. Harbaugh brings a whole different attitude.” (Dayon Henley, 45:48)
  • “To be the best, you gotta beat the best.” Now aiming for both Chiefs and the new rival in green this season. (45:56)

• Quarterback Trust:

  • “You only as good as your quarterback. When we got a leader in [Herbert], we know how far we can take this thing.” (Dayon Henley, 46:51)

• Harbaugh’s Coaching Style:

  • Henley lauds Harbaugh’s genuineness, work ethic, and the fact he recruits in person: “He’s a guy you want to fight for – and he’ll fight with you.” (Dayon Henley, 48:19)

• Linebacker Mentorship:

  • His position coach is Navarro Bowman, whom Henley deeply admires: “Not only just the resume, but he still could go ball today…he should be among those [Hall of Fame] ranks, too.” (Dayon Henley, 49:56)

• Henley’s Journey:

  • Quarterback to WR to Safety to Linebacker: “I was a QB up to 17, then Nevada made me an ‘athlete’, then a receiver, then a safety, then linebacker.” (Dayon Henley, 54:12)
  • Modeled DB game after Ed Reed, and linebacker game after Ray Lewis/Navarro Bowman.

• Choosing #0:

  • “I looked at 0 as an opportunity to make my mark and be remembered.” (Dayon Henley, 56:41)

• Giving Back to Community:

  • Henley regularly returns to inspire kids in LA: “Fresh off a 14-hour flight from Brazil, went to a Pop Warner game in Compton…when I can, I will.” (Dayon Henley, 62:52)
  • Strong guidance from father (“Big U”), a commitment to walks a different path: “My dad said, ‘You got no option, I’m here now, and you’re gonna do it the right way.’” (Dayon Henley, 60:44)

• Raiders Preview:

  • Focused on next week’s game vs. Raiders: “All smoke is welcome. We’re moving one by one, one and oh every week.” (Dayon Henley, 47:19, 64:45)

Notable Quotes

• “I’m not a boastful dude…I know where I am right now in my process. I look at [zero] as a blank slate every game. What I do builds that number’s legacy.” (Dayon Henley, 57:27)
• “I got my coach’s back. That’s all I’m saying.” (Dayon Henley on Harbaugh vs. Carroll, 65:49)
• “When you get a single digit number now, you got to be that boy, dog.” (Shannon Sharpe, 57:13)

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On Vikings’ Comeback:

  • “You thought a 17–6 lead was enough…but you have JJ come together in that fourth quarter, it’s like: who the hell is this?” (Chad Johnson, 15:26)

• On Fans & Quarterbacks

  • “I think people are more sympathetic to a rookie not getting the first down, as opposed to Russ not getting a first down…Russ is just a placeholder.” (Shannon Sharpe, 34:47)

• Chad vs. Henley Banter:

  • Henley challenges Ocho for claiming to run over Bowman: “I don’t think you hit Bo. I know they rolling right now, so you can’t do that with mine.” (Dayon Henley, 52:32)
  • Chad: “On dead homies, I’m with whatever on Sundays.” (Chad Johnson, 52:24)

• Henley on Inspiration:

  • “I want to show the kids it’s an option. I didn’t really see this close of an athlete…I want them to understand it’s not normal, but it is possible.” (Dayon Henley, 63:13, 63:46)

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Episode Structure & Timestamps

• 03:00–21:00: MNF Vikings/Bears Recap, momentum, quarterbacks, Bears’ O-line struggles.
• 25:00–36:00: Russell Wilson/NJ Giants, rookie QB debate, schedule analysis.
• 36:00–41:00: NFL O-line transitions, college-to-pro disconnect.
• 44:39–69:44: Daiyan Henley, Chargers, Harbaugh, mentorship, LA roots, community impact, and Raiders preview.

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Conclusion

A high-energy, insight-rich episode with in-depth football analysis, technical breakdowns, player perspectives, and moments of laughter and mentorship. The conversation with Henley offers a powerful glimpse into the journey from LA high school fields to the NFL, as well as the importance of giving back to the community and leading by example.

Perfect for listeners wanting:

• Authentic, detailed NFL commentary
• Player development stories and life lessons
• Locker-room level banter and quotable moments
• Candid, unfiltered insights from some of football’s most dynamic personalities

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[Chad Johnson]

Easily, easily.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's running for his life. And I was like hold on, I thought you and I both because we talked about this at Ocho. They screwed the offensive line. They got Roma Dunes. They got a DJ Moore. They Got Zacchaeus, they get drafted. Attack. Got another tight end. They got cold commit. Defense seemed to be flying around and they got Ben Johnson calling plays. D A is the. Dennis Allen is the new D.C. i say I like Chicago. Revamped offensive line. Oh, the offensive line looked the same, if not worse than what it did last year. Give Minnesota credit. I have to give JJ McCarthy a lot of credit. He's a he. Theoretically, he's not a rookie, but last year he got hurt in his rookie season. But this is like his rookie season. To throw a pick, a pick six on the road and not. And not get down OO and to come back and throw two touchdowns and to win this game in your first start. Give J.J. mcCarthy some credit.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, absolutely. Listen, watching this game, I really thought I was. I thought at some point I thought the Bears were going to run away with this one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I did too.

[Chad Johnson]

Caleb Williams looked like Houdini back there, obviously, when being able to process dropping back when things don't happen. One of the few quarterbacks in. In the NFL that can make something out of nothing when things break down. He looked good. Made some very good throws. Obviously, once the pick six happened. Once the pick six happened, jj, JJ left that out route inside, I was like, you know what?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

At this point, this. This one's over. This game is over, man. J.J. kept on plugging. He did plug and kept on plugging. A play here, a play there. He also being a dual threat, quarterback being a. Both of them. Both of them could move with the ball too, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, both of them can move with the ball, man. Before you know it, man, we got a ball game, baby. We got a ball game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You looking at Ocho, you thought that out route. You got to be early and outside because if you. Even if you late, it's going to. It's going to be knocked down at worst.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And no, it'll be knocked down at best. The worst thing that happened is a pick six going the other way. But if you late and inside.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And you. And you got to have an arm. You know, most coaches don't throw it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

From the far hash all the way out.

[Chad Johnson]

You got to have an arm. So obviously JJ must got a gun on him for the coaches to be comfortable with him even throwing that ball. But it's all about placement. It's all about you. You want to miss far rather than miss inside you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, when he catch that ball, Ocho, he out of bounds. You catch it, you get two feet down, you out of bounds. Yes. Basically, when you throw that, when that joker plant that right foot, that ball need to be in air because he's running on the spin. Now he's not stopping. So he's running a speed out.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So when he hit. So before he hit, that ball got to be in there. When he speed out, when he 10 roll to 12, yeah, he got a drop in his hands.

[Chad Johnson]

When his eyes turn back to look for the ball, that ball already got to be in the air.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, for sure he got.

[Chad Johnson]

That ball got to already be in the air. And he got to catch the eyeline of the ball in flight. Not watch it leaving your hand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because if it's leaving way too late, that guy way.

[Chad Johnson]

It's way too late.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you see, first of all, oo the dude playing off.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So once he see now he ran out and up he cooked. But you see how hard he. You see how hard he drove on that? Oh, so he knew. He knew. Hey, once he. Once he saw Jetta put that foot in the dirt, yeah, he go, you running out? I'm driving this. You gotta trust it, though. Cause a lot of guys, they hesitate. Like, I don't know, what if it's an out and up? And, you know, you might get there to knock it down. He like, nah, I'm gonna trust this. If they got an out and up, Coach. Oh, well, they got me on this one.

[Chad Johnson]

That's what I mean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm taking this one to the house. But Minnesota, I didn't see. I didn't see no, I saw no signs of life. Because think about Ocho. Just like I said, the score was 17 to 6. 17 to 6. And the next thing you know, Minnesota scored 21 unanswered. Chicago got a late touchdown. Got a late touchdown to make it 27, 24. But I think Minnesota going on the road in a hostile environment. This is a division game, and they're doing it with a rookie quarterback. And for him to put up the stats that he did, look, it wasn't, you know, 13 or 21, 43, they ran the ball 26 times for a buck 20. But for him to go on the road in that environment and to do when things do not cause Ocho, if he'd have got off to a great start, I'd have totally understood them winning. But it got off to a shaky start. And for him to keep plugging away and keep plugging away. His quarterback coach is Josh McCown. I say within three years, Josh McCown is a head coach.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, Josh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you over under Three years. Ocho head coach.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, probably. Especially. Especially with quarterback success. Anytime you coach a pacific position and that Pacific position continues to succeed on whatever team you're coaching, especially if it's a quarterback.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You're gonna get your opportunity. Yeah, definitely gonna get your opportunity.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He played a long time, you know, back up, made some plays. I mean, I think he played, like, 17, 18 years. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Long time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he played a long time. But Minnesota. You got to give Minnesota credit, Chat. Um. Cause like I said, I. I didn't see that. I saw nothing that would make me believe that they had a chance to win this game. Especially through the first three quarters, I saw nothing. I saw no life, especially offensively. Now, give the defense credit and the DC Who. The DC Former coach of the Dolphins. Give him credit because he had those guys flying around. They're making plays. Van Greenkle and Hargrove. Those guys. Those guys were flying around tonight. Oh, yeah, that's one thing he can do now. He. He dial up that defense they get. After you.

[Chad Johnson]

He's about The Vikings.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Vikings, D.C. yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Brian. Brian Flores.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Flores. Yes. Yes.

[Dayon Henley]

Flores.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, give him. Give him credit. He had those guys playing. Yeah, they were getting pressure with. With. With four guys. Occasionally, they'll bring extra pressure. But I thought Chicago would be better because they invested in what many thought was a weakness, which is their offensive line. Tuney is an All Pro, a Pro bowl player. They got Jackson from the Rams. I forget where the center came from, but they got. And I'm like, damn. Are y' all sure?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did y' all forget how to block? Did y' all have. Get how to pass it? Did you get out of run block? I was like. Cause this is. This is a. A recap of what it was last year.

[Chad Johnson]

Last night, basically, hell, J.J. mcCarthy, he threw two. Two TDs in less than, what, three, four?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep, yep.

[Chad Johnson]

Matter of fact, it's games like this, like what we saw last night, what we saw tonight, where people say, oh, man, 17, six. This game is over. You know, they go do something else. Come. Go in the garage and come back in, and the Vikings win the game. Oh, man, hell, no. This is rigged, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, everything rigged.

[Chad Johnson]

This. It's all rigged. And listen, it was surprising to me, too. But to actually watch it unfold, I'm like, well, God damn. I see why people say that. But then you think to yourself, no, it ain't real, because I haven't been out there on that field in the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Momentum, you know, when. The momentum. When the moment a. The Momentum, your home at a way. It does not matter if, when you. Well, that's what I try to explain to people, Ocho.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you have the momentum, you're going to have it because the momentum is going to swing. You get it, they get it. You get it. They get it, they get it. How much separation can you put between you and the team when you have the momentum? Because they're gonna get it back at some point.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And if you haven't put enough momentum, if you haven't put enough space separation, they're gonna come back and bite you.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, you would think with that momentum, you would think a 176 lead is enough, is enough space to not lose the game. But you have JJ come coming together in that fourth quarter, it's like, who the hell is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, if you think about Ocho, that's really, that's not a, I mean 17 6, that's really a touchdown. A two point conversion of the field goal. It's not like the Ravens last night. The Ravens were up 15 with under five minutes to go and so now Ocho, you need a touchdown, you need two touchdowns and a two point conversion just to get even. Yeah, just to get even. So that was a little bit more formidable especially. And it's still like you said, it's the fourth quarter. Right. But I thought that was a more of seemingly an insurmountable lead than what we saw tonight. But considering you got a rookie.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who hadn't been doing much, that is. Look, no matter what you thought about Buffalo, that they do have the reigning mvp.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They do have a guy that, you know, he can go crazy. We haven't seen, we haven't seen anything from JJ McCarthy that would make us think that the Minnesota had that in him. Other than pride, other than this is the division rival and hey, we know them, they know us. Because guess what, Ben Johnson, he was at, he was at Detroit last year. So offensively, even though he's at another team, Brian Flores already know what he's gonna run. Because I've been coaching against this guy for the last two, three years, so I know what, I know who and what he is. The only thing changed is the color of the uniforms now. Now o' Connell is going to have to go back and fill out look as a D A and see what he ran when he was in New Orleans. Let's, you know, maybe pull out some tape when he was the head coach at the. The Raiders or old footage of when he was in D.C. at Denver. But for the most part they know this offense. They know Chicago's offense because they. Flores has been coaching against Ben Johnson for two to three years. But I was, I was, I was very disappointed in what I saw from Chicago. Ojo. Offensively, you think so? Yeah. You got two. Number one. Okay. You got Roma Dunes number one pick. You got DJ Moore, you got Cole commit. You got Zacchaeus, you got Loveland, and you got the number one pick in the draft. And you rebuilt your offensive line. You spent $94 million. 55 of it goes this year towards that offensive line. And the offensive line doesn't look any better.

[Joe]

Yeah. You all right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You had Chicago. You say Chicago was your surprise team.

[Chad Johnson]

I, I did. I did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You did. I mean, so you should be surprised also.

[Chad Johnson]

They look like this to me. To me. I'm, I'm not, I'm not. I'm throwing caution to win simply because it's week one. That's all. That's all. And I've done that. You notice when it comes to the week one games.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

I haven't been do too crazy the way the Dolphins look. The chance of them actually looking that bad again and back to back weeks is slim. None. It's the NFL. So because it's week one, I've given almost every team some grace. Now we get down the road dunk and we, we in week three and we, and we, we in week three or week four and, and stuff is looking like, like what we saw tonight. Allowing teams to come back from, you know, being down in the deficit like that and they come back and win in the fourth quarter. What happened the other night with, with Baltimore.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Scoring 16 points in a four minute span in an NFL game in one quarter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Scored 22 points in the fourth quarter, 28 in the second half.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, we talk about in, in real life, not a video game. Real life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. You know Josh, because Josh had like 240something passing yards, if I'm not mistaken. In the fourth quarter alone.

[Chad Johnson]

It was crazy. But, but again, week one, eh. I'm, I'm gonna give him, I'm gonna give the Bears really some grace. Watching Kayla Williams made some good throws. Had to run for his life. He had to be Houdini.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man. Oh my goodness.

[Chad Johnson]

And I, I don't know. Joe, Joe, Joe Tooney would, would, would be the, the captain left guard. I mean, yeah, he would be the, the leader of that, that offensive line.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I think Jonah Jackson, they got from the Rams a dolman. I'm not sure. I'm just, I've Just glanced at his name when he was on the back because it was, you know, you could see it and the next thing you know it was sideways. I couldn't see it because he was chasing somebody that was going by. But this is not, no, this is not what Ben Johnson envisioned. Like you said, it is the first game. But I just thought I would see, I would see more, I would see better from what I saw from the Chicago, from the Chicago Bears. But give Minnesota credit. They go on the road basically with a rookie quarterback and they get a very hard fought division, a division win. So they're tied with Green Bay one and over top the division. And the Bears and the Lions are. Oh and one. They're at the bottom of the division. Oh, Drew Dahlman, that's his name. Drew Dolman. J.J. mcCarthy is the first Vikings quarterback with multiple touchdown passes in his first NFL game since hall of Famer 1961. Fran targeted. That performance also came against dubbears. I don't know if you don't remember Fran, but Fran used to be running all over.

[Chad Johnson]

Might have been the first scrambling quarterback. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Maybe. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Fran talking to award number 10. Yeah, come on. I was, I went to two of his games.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he was, he was scrambling. But that's. Congratulations. Minnesota 27, 24. Congratulations, J.J. mcCarthy. Two touchdown passes. First time it's been done by a starter, a rookie star. What? Hold up, what was, what was, what was the thing? The first Vikings quarterback with multiple touchdown passes in his first NFL game. There have been a lot of quarterbacks start for Minnesota between 61 and 25, but JJ McCarthy and Fran target the only two to do it. And you talking about. My sister was born in 60, so she's 65. So 64 years. Has a laugh between a quarterback and his first NFL game. Two touchdown passes. Congratulations. J.J. mcCarthy, this is Colin Coward from.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho Russell Wilson will remain the New York Giants starting quarterback for Sunday's game against the Dallas Cowboy. Coach Brian Dabel said they ball said There would never serious decision make make. Despite rookie Jackson dart waiting in the ring wings Russ will be the starter. Russ went 17 to 37, 168 with no touchdowns or interceptions in the season opening loss. He was especially ineffective under pressure. Ocho 2 of 1226 yards with two sacks, two scrambles. New York managed just 231 yards of total offense installed twice inside the red zone. I mean, I think the last thing you want to do Ocho is start a rookie on the road in Dallas. A division rival, hostile environment. All things being equal, I would rather start him at home or coming out of the buy. Right. So I get a little extra time to prepare. Well, what you think? Oo, I mean listen, I.

[Chad Johnson]

There's no question, not the panic. You're hitting the panic button after week one. Obviously if you watch the game, if you watch the Giants play against the Commanders. Hell, Russell is running for his life too. Now what he does have to do, he has to settle down in that pocket a little bit. I know you getting side the head, I know you're getting hit upside the head sometimes take the first throw you see and just let it go because you're holding on to the ball waiting for things to develop and you don't have the time for that to happen. No, it showed. Listen, if. If I don't, I don't. Again, in situations like that with the defensive line on top of Russell Wilson where he can't make the throws or see the passing lanes that he wants to. I'm getting the ball out right away, right away. Understanding what defense in front of me and whatever my first read is, boy, the ball is coming right away. So get your head around.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want to get the ball out right away but nobody's open right away because the thing I'm trying to do is I'm trying to take that first throw away and I look, first of all, Ocho, there got to be lanes. Russ is only so tall. It's not like he's Josh Allen. It's not like he can see over the lineman and see down the field. He needs lanes to be able to see. All things being equal, he'd like to buy some time. He'd like to be a little outside of the pocket so I can clearly see. Yeah, but I agree, I agree with you. I think maybe if not after the first game. No, but I still, I still believe over under eight games that Jackson Dart is going to be starting. Now. It's going to be interesting to see. There's reports that they might have A package or two for Jackson dart on Sunday. The question is, do you think they'll have a package on Sunday in Dallas for Jackson dart? Or they just let. They let Russ ride it out.

[Chad Johnson]

Let Russ cook. Let Russ let him cook. If you're the head chef at the restaurant, right. If you're a head chef at a restaurant, you don't want one of the waiters outside coming in and telling you how to cook. You don't want them in and messing up your rhythm as a quarterback. Listen, if Jackson's already gonna sit, allow him to do just that. Allow him to sit. If Russell Wilson is your head chef, let the man be quarterback number one until you decide to make a change. Hell, you might not have to make a change. You might not have to. Why? Why prep? Why prep Jackson dart and getting them ready. What message does that send to Russell Wilson? What message? If he's quarterback number one, let him be quarterback number one. This ain't college. This is in high school. Okay, you know what? We're gonna make some special packages for this individual because we're getting him ready to play. I don't like that message. I don't like what it sends to Russell Wilson. Let the man play until he loses his job.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I remember when. When they drafted Lamar Jackson.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They had packages for him.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You keep saying, they say, let Russ cook, but people keep sending the dish back. So how am I keep letting something right. Don't you. They keep sending the dish back.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you sharp.

[Chad Johnson]

You sharp. That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sent the dish back. Pittsburgh sent the dish back. I mean, people keep sending the dish. Seemed like the Giants hadn't been pleased, but they say, you know what? Let's order something else. Maybe it was what we ordered that wasn't to our. Up to our standard or to our satisfaction. Let's order something else. What do you recommend, Chef Wilson? Because sometimes you go to. You go to a restaurant, they have what they call chef's choice. Yes, whatever you like, Chef. You do. Do what you do. How would you like that prepared? Chef's choice.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, you're right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I, I just. I, I, I, I. I think I. I think that's the kind of the direction that. That the Giants are going to head in. Can we. Can we get Dallas? Can we get the Giants schedule? Can you put it up right quick? I think that's going to be more than anything, Ocho.

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because the last thing I want to do is. I mean, let's see Philly. Okay, Philly's on the road this week in Kansas City. That's not going to be an easy game, but Kansas City is going to be without the two top receivers. It looks like a. A worth is dealing with a dislocated shoulder. I told you you talking about AC I said nah the way that. Hey, the way that collision cuz like you said oo you. I mean just imagine you running one and not.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I said the same thing. Remember I said it was grade three.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, well I thought. I thought it was a separate yes, it's a. They said dislocation separation so mean it should it came out.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Ocho, let me put a jersey on. It's cold in here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chat they they lost to Washington. Then they got the At Dallas, Kansas City at home, charges at home at New Orleans, Eagles at home at Denver at Philly. The chart the Niners at home at Chicago, Green Bay at home at Detroit, at New England, Washington at home, Minnesota at home at Las Vegas, Dallas at home. They got a smoker. So basically you look at that from September 14th until November to November 2nd, they got Dallas, Kansas City, the Chargers at New Orleans. We'll see Philly, Denver, Philly, Niners. Chad, what y' all thinking? How y'.

[Dayon Henley]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What y' all thinking? Y', all, y', all, y'.

[Dayon Henley]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many win how many wins in there? At Dallas, Kansas City at home, charges at home at New Orleans, Eagles at home at Denver, at Philly, Niners at home. How many wins y' all see? Whoo boy. Unless I'm unforeseen. I mean, man, they're gonna have to be on their best behavior. They're gonna have to really play their ass off. Cause who that I was just. I just went over their schedule and they got. They're at Dallas. So I just went over their schedule from September 14th, which is Sunday all the way to November 2nd. So they're at Dallas, they get Kansas City at home, they get the Chargers at home. They get the Saints on the road, Eagles at home, Denver on the road, Philly on the road. That's their next seven games.

[Chad Johnson]

But that's a nice little schedule too. That's a nice and listen, not only is it a nice little schedule, it's a great test for Russell Wilson. It's a great test for Russell Wilson to see if the ball wants to continue with him going forward or throw Jackson thought out to the wolves. We keep. We keep calling for Jackson Dart to come in and play. And that. That is a rookie in the same preseason. What you gonna get out there? In these regular season games where they're trying to confuse your quarterback and get you thinking to throw you off your pivot, It's a different ball game. It's a different ball game and everybody. Oh, wait, put Jackson dart in. Put Jack and dart in after one game. All right, all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, boy, they got, they, they, they got, they got, they got a little tough schedule, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got a tough schedule. The Cowboys, Kansas City at home.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Back in the Charger. The Chargers at home. Then they're at New Orleans. Then they get Philly at home.

[Chad Johnson]

They can breathe a little bit. Oh, my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

At, at Denver, at Philly, the charge, the 49ers at home.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I don't know who made that schedule, but that's, that's, that's personal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they got. I, I just, I just. When you look at it, Ocho, is that the Giants are really like, okay, we don't want to, like, because everybody thinks that, like, if you go to a rookie, you kind of giving up.

[Chad Johnson]

On the season, basically, is what you saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I don't want my fans. Because with the fans booing every time we come off the field when we don't get no first downs and we putting.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, listen, they gonna, they're gonna be born extra loud. You put Jackson out there and you can't get no first downs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I think people are more sympathetic to a rookie not getting the first down, as opposed to Russ not getting first down. Because they're looking, they're looking at Jackson Dart as their future. They're not looking at Russ. They're like, man, look, Russ is just a placeholder.

[Joe]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

Understandable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, but like you said, I mean, the first two games on the road, that's never, that's never easy. Even if you got one of the better teams, it's tough to win on the road. It's tough to win in the NFL. It's even tougher to win on the road. And basically they give you two division opponents. You start the season with two division opponents on the road.

[Dayon Henley]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, those first five or six games that they have in general.

[Dayon Henley]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, really, probably the only game they're going to be favored in. Ocho, is probably. I don't even know they'll be fighting favorite against the Saints because the Saints are at home. They're not going to be favored against Dallas, Kansas City. The charges. New Orleans at home, they're not going to be favorite. Excuse me. New Orleans on the road. They're not going to be favored At Philly at home. They're not going to be favored. At Denver on the road, Philly on the road, or the 49ers at home, they're not going to be favored.

[Joe]

No.

[Chad Johnson]

That's nasty work. Whoever did the schedule, that's nasty work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. I mean, their defense is going to have to like keep them, keep them in some of these games.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But. And I think in order for that to happen, that means your offense can't turn the ball over. You got to possess the ball some because if you don't possess the ball enough, you'll wear your defense down. And then a crack would turn into a full blown, you know, overflow.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's what, that's what the Giants are up against. Like I said, I don't envy the position that they're in because they got some tough decisions to make. They bet on one guy, Daniel Jones, and that wasn't it. They went back into the draft, they like Russ. Okay. Hopefully Russ can hold us over until next year. He maybe he can, maybe can't. But they clearly, they view Jackson Dart as their future, but they've been, you know, and the offensive line, the offensive line isn't good. If somebody would have told me Evan Neal would turn out to be the player that he's turned out to be. He's not good. Alabama consensus, all America, 6 foot 7, 340 pounds. They showed him. He jumping up on something with one leg ocho big for no reason.

[Chad Johnson]

He ain't paying out the way you thought.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no. Hell if, if, if they didn't pay up all that money, he'd be a big ass equipment manager. But they got 50 beats 50, 60. But they got all that money tied up in. He was the top 10 pick.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean when you look at them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He'S supposed to be the left. They moving to the right because right, your left tackle is supposed to be your most, most athletic offensive lineman because he's dealing with the Miles Garrett, he's dealing with the Michael Parsons, he's dealing with those level of guys, the Bond Millers. But so they, they took it from the left and put him on the right. So normally that's your run side. Most people are run right handed, dominant. They run to the right side. The 49ers buck that because Big Trent TW is, is a dominant run. But most teams, they run to the right. They put him on the right side. Oo. I mean he's just like slowly I turn step by step and the guy done going by him?

[Chad Johnson]

Going by him?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, listen, I'm like, dude, yeah. And if they move him from left tackle, they don't trust him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no, no.

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, so that's what they drafted him as. They drafted him as a left. They drafted him as a Left tackle.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

6 foot 7, 325 pounds, 330, 340, agile. I mean, in college. But you, that just goes to show you. So a lot of times you play them big guys in the name.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Joe]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, them guys in NFL don't give a damn about your name. They don't care nothing about that. Oh, at all. Alabama, man, you heard about that big offensive tackle he favored to win the Outland, The Lombardi and this one in that one. And so you played at Alabama. You played at one of these prominent schools. People might fear that. Don't nobody fear nobody in the NFL at all.

[Chad Johnson]

I got, I got kids to feed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I got bill, I got bills to pay. I don't care who you play for. Hey, you finna get his work?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

What is worth of it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I didn't go to Alabama and I ain't got no big time boosters. I went to Savannah State and we ain't got no big time boosters that's offering jobs.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And all the coaching positions are filled. And, and, and, and General John said he wouldn't hire me as a general manager of his car dealership. So I was gonna be out of work. If somebody gonna be out of work, it ain't gonna be me. That's all I'm saying. It ain't gonna be me. I got choice. We got two choices. We got a choice to make. You and I both got a choice. One of us going to be out of work. I choose you. Now, who you nominated? Oh, who you nominating bad? Please. I'm just, I'm just surprised. Oo. I just thought that he was like. I was like, man. But if you go back and look at it, a lot of those offensive linemen from Alex Leatherwood and Jonah, a lot of those guys didn't pan out. Yeah, Dickerson, he got hurt. He wanted towards the acl.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, he might be that best lineman. And they got another one that I think he played center at at the end at the Colts. But all the rest of those Top linemen, Pork Chop, Womack.

[Chad Johnson]

Right, Right. It's different. It's different when the. When the level of competition is evens out and you're playing against grown men. All the stuff you did in college, unless it carry. Unless it carries over and you're who we thought you were. You'll get exposed. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right? That's. You're. You're exactly right. Because like you said, people got guys got enough. It. Just imagine if you're supposed to be this hot shot guy and I go through you. What does that do for my confidence? I. I ain't looking at you. I'm looking because I heard what everything's Everybody. You top 10 pick you. All these. All these credentials at the University of Alabama. All sec, first car, all unanimous. All American out the trophy man, please. That ain't got nothing to do with me.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, Ocho. Joining us right now, linebacker Dayon Henley. Deon, how you doing, bro?

[Dayon Henley]

Chilling, man. Good to see y', all, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's good to see you.

[Dayon Henley]

The OGs.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm only, I'm only third. I'm only 23. I'm only 23.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not.

[Dayon Henley]

Oh, geez, man. The oh, geez.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I appreciate that, bro. I'll gladly accept that. Big game Friday night. You're on the road in Brazil. You get there a little early. You understand what's at stake. Look, your guys went to the playoffs last year, but the big dog on top of the mountain that you guys trying to topple. The Broncos trying to topple. They're the team that's the red and the white. They've been, they've been at the top of the mountain for 12, 13 years consecutive. And you say, you know what? Coach Harbaugh come in there with that attitude, said, nah, you know what? It's time for a new king to be in the kingdom. What were you guys thought? Process. How did you guys go out there and get this job done?

[Dayon Henley]

I mean, like you just said, we already had that mindset that we was going to get some guys who've been, you know, known to run the conference. Not only the conference, but the league for the past few Years. But we. We in a different era right now. As far as our team goes, as far as organization, it's Jim Harbaugh, and we trying to show that right now that's our brand of football that you just seen that Friday night out there in Brazil. And that's just what we trying to drive throughout the rest of the season, not only just for this season, but for years to come. And, you know, to, you know, be the best, you got to beat the best. And at one point, it was a Chiefs, but we also got them dudes in green this season, too. So we looking forward to it. We looking forward to all the comp.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We want, all of it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I really enjoyed what you guys did Friday. Obviously, Justin Herbert doing what he needs to do and putting the league on notice. And defensively, y' all young Bulls out there flying around, playing with tenacity, being physical, you know, coming to the party, you know, as a group. So looking forward to the next game. What do you think you guys need to do to continue to make sure you solidify yourselves as true contenders, not just in the division, but. But I know it's only week two, but to compete for Lombardi Trophy, because based on what we saw the other night, you got the quarterback to do so.

[Dayon Henley]

I mean. I mean, I tweeted out right after the game was Respect 10. That's something that we, as a team, we hold that real high because, I mean, you only as good as your quarterback. And then as far. You feel me, like, when we got a guy and a leader in him, we know how far we can take this thing, and we believe in not only him, but as far as our coaches and the staff and what we built here, we just ready to, you know, to prove it. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, we looking for. It was week by week, you know, one and oh, that's the goal every week, is to be one and, oh, get to two zero and see how far we can take this thing. You know, we can't take any game for granted. All smoke, like I said, is welcome. And you called us Young bulls. So that 23 thing out the window. I hope you know that. You called it, Joe. You was 23 a second ago. Now we young Bulls.

[Chad Johnson]

You call me og. So I'm just. I'm gonna pay the respect back and I'm gonna call you Young Bull.

[Dayon Henley]

I'm young Boo. I'm a young Boo. I just want you to know you. You go ahead. You know, it's nice and shiny, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Here. What's the biggest difference. You played for a lot of coaches. I mean, growing up in Pop Warner, in high school and college, and now you have Jim Harbaugh and what did you hear about him? Did you ask anybody that had ever, you know, played for him, played under him at the University of Michigan, at Stanford, at San, at the Niners, did you know anybody that played for him? And what type of coach? What are you getting? Is he everything that you thought?

[Dayon Henley]

I mean, I would definitely say he everything that I thought he would be before he got to us. I definitely heard a lot about Coach Harbaugh. I mean, I mean, the dude's personality, it goes through any room, you feel me? He walks in a lot of rooms that he ain't never been in. You know that type of name he got. And that's because of the personality and how outstanding and upstanding he is as a guy. And I heard a lot of stories about him, just about him coming to la. You know, I'm from la, from the city and not a lot of coaches due to the on ground recruiting out here in this city, but I heard a lot. And not only do you hear a lot, but I've seen a lot of pictures of just hardball, you know, being on foot out here and going to recruit guys and just being relatable, as relatable as he can be. So you feel me, like just, he's that man. He's just that genuine type of guy. He's a guy you want to fight for. A guy that will fight with you though, you know, it's not about fighting for him, but he'll fight with you and you who gotta follow a leader like that.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your linebackers coach played next to him and Patrick Willis for the longest time. They were the best two. They were the best duo in football. They were some thumpers will coming downhill. But I think Navarro Bowman was very underrated because he was playing to a guy that was an all, that was perennial all pro. That was war number 52. And his idol was Ray Lewis. And he was as fast, he was as physical and he could do it all. But Navarro Bowman, if you watch the 49ers, if you studied the 49ers before he got injured, Bo was that dude.

[Dayon Henley]

Hey, hey, you see I got to take the Oakleys off. You feel me talking about I gotta take the Oakley's off. I gotta, you know, I just got them joints today, shout out Oakley for that. But I mean, you talking about a guy with not only just the resume, but he still he still could go ball today. I mean, I listen to his face. You feel me? I'll be trying to keep my guy, you know, just at coach level, but he'll still try to get out there and show me something about hitting something. And I'll be like, come on, dude. Dude, it's my turn now. You feel me? But I look at his tape, man. I study who he is. I study who he is. You feel me? I don't want to say who he was because he is that guy. He is 100% still that guy. And I feel like not only was he next to a Hall of Famer, but him, himself and what he did on that field, he should also be amongst them ranks, too, one day, because, I mean, he had them all pros. He had the injury, the bounce back from the injury. You know what I'm saying? The stuff that's. That's unnatural. That's not really normal. And it's like, you know, you got that type of resume and you become a coach. I look at what he do. I look at what he say. Then I could go turn on the film and be like, now you. You about that. And I mean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, he really. He really was.

[Dayon Henley]

He's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

About that.

[Dayon Henley]

Time was y' all around the field at the same time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm way low. I'm way. I'm way with both.

[Chad Johnson]

I was with him. I ran over a few times.

[Dayon Henley]

You. You did what?

[Chad Johnson]

Ran him over. Slick quarter, slant quarter, little mid dig. And instead of cutting up, I just. I just ran smacking to him, asking about it.

[Dayon Henley]

Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I'm asking about it.

[Chad Johnson]

I was hell to deal with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Chad Johnson]

I was hell to deal with. What?

[Dayon Henley]

I heard you shied away from contact, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who?

[Dayon Henley]

You. Me?

[Chad Johnson]

I was 6, 4, 2:30. What I'm shying away from.

[Dayon Henley]

Oh, no, I. I mean, I remember. See, I'd be watching. I'll be watching y', all, man. Y' all got a lot of influence on. On us. I mean, y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Dayon Henley]

Oh, geez. I don't heard you talk about not being a contact receiver. I've heard you verbatim say that. That wasn't in your game. You can't be saying. Yeah, I got receipts up here, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have.

[Chad Johnson]

You have to listen to me. Close me, okay? I don't like contact in game because I get my uniform out the cleaners on game day. Now, I welcome contact, if that's what you want to do. So.

[Dayon Henley]

Have you.

[Chad Johnson]

Have you see foot on dead homies. I'm with whatever on Sundays. You feel me?

[Dayon Henley]

On dead homies.

[Chad Johnson]

On their homies.

[Dayon Henley]

Oh, not on my dead homies, though.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, not on yours. On mine.

[Dayon Henley]

Yeah, you can't put them on my dead homies because I don't think you hit both. I don't think I did that. I know they rolling right now, so you can't do that with mine.

[Chad Johnson]

Respect. Hey, listen, if let just. I'm gonna give you better perspective. I'm giving you better perspective and better context if it in 225.

[Dayon Henley]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

I was playing in today's game, and there was a chance. Let's say you was playing against me.

[Dayon Henley]

Me. Me. Right? Me.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, you playing against me.

[Dayon Henley]

I'm locked in. I'm game over. Let's go.

[Chad Johnson]

You locked in?

[Dayon Henley]

Yeah. Let's go.

[Chad Johnson]

Before the game start. I'm probably gonna talk you out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your game.

[Chad Johnson]

In the game. I'm probably gonna. I'm in the game. I'm probably gonna run you over at some point because you too little. You too little for me, for my type, for my kind. Like, I respect you and what you do. Listen, I've been watching you since you were a little kid.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You didn't even know that Ocho, you know, he started out as a wide receiver. He switched to the linebacker position.

[Dayon Henley]

Hey, I was too dark for that room over there. I was too. I was too much for him over there. I ain't gonna lie. Coach looked at me and said, you a little too physical to be doing what you're doing to these dudes. You probably should be on the dark side. And I said, you know what? If I was anything like Chad, I say, no, I'll go ahead and do that. I'm gonna go ahead and flip the switch on y'. All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. Who did you model coming up? Obviously, you started as a wide receiver.

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So when you were the wide receiver, who did you model your game after? And then once you switched to the defensive side and you became a linebacker, what are some of the linebackers that you like? Okay. I like his game. Let me see if I can add some of that to mine.

[Dayon Henley]

So this. This. I like my. My. This whole life, a whole lot of life, you feel me? Happened in my little 25. But I was a QB all the way up until I got to college. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. I was QB from 5 years old to 17. I went to Crenshaw. How you just don't even watch me High school.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, listen, listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gotta understand. Hold on.

[Chad Johnson]

You Gotta understand. I was. I was over there by Dorsey, off, off, off third building. So you feel me?

[Dayon Henley]

Oh, man. I mean, I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know.

[Chad Johnson]

It's all good. It's all good. I was on the other side.

[Dayon Henley]

The disrespect.

[Chad Johnson]

I know about you. I know about you. I was watching you. I. I didn't know. I didn't know you played quarterback, though.

[Dayon Henley]

The disrespect. Man. All I'm g. Say is, look, I was a qb, right, Right at my shot at Nevada. University of Nevada. They turned me into an athlete. You feel me? I didn't get an offer at a position they offered me as an athlete. You know, look that up. They don't. That don't happen often.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Dayon Henley]

They put me in the receiver room, like I said, at that point, just to ask you answer your question. I. Look, a lot of guys like yourself, you feel me? Just. Just had to see how to run routes. You mean properly? I was throwing the routes, but, you know, not really running routes. So I looked at you. Shout out. Obj. Shout out. Shout out. Some guys who just. I feel like at the end of the day, they come down with the ball. So went from that and got into my defensive side of mine. And the first dude I really, like, looked into was probably Ed Reid, man. Just a physical dude. Cause I didn't go straight linebacker. I was a safety at first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Yeah. Ed, take the ball away.

[Dayon Henley]

Yeah, yeah. If I'm gonna look at anybody, I'm gonna look at who I deem.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[Dayon Henley]

And I used to watch the Ravens a lot, Shay. So shout out to you. I used to watch the Ravens a lot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I used to appreciate that.

[Dayon Henley]

I see y' all hard knocks, acting a fool. You ain't changed. You ever changed. But I used to watch the Ravens a lot. So every and then, obviously you look. You look right below, you got Ray Lewis, man, you got. You got one of the greats. And then you. You just go from there. Once you. Once you get into that mindset, you just kind of just go from there. And then like, I, I. You feel me? I told him this before, but shout out Navarro, Bowman, man, you look at that tandem that he was part of respect. So I was able to watch a lot of greats and then messed around and got next to one man. And it's number of respect. I'm just trying to. I'm trying to make my mark. It's about legacy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But let me ask you, what made you decide to choose 0 of all the numbers you could have? I mean, what's special about Zero?

[Dayon Henley]

You see, you see what I just said about that legacy right there?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. You start your own.

[Dayon Henley]

You know what I'm saying? That legacy, man, I mean, I got to the league.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nothing wrong with that, bro.

[Dayon Henley]

It just so happened that Zero was available for the first time in the NFL. I didn't have one as an option. My draft class mate was Quentin Johnson. He was our first rounder. He was number one in college, obviously the one go to him. That was my most recent number. It was 1 and 11 was taken. So I looked at 0 as an opportunity to. To make my mark and do something and, you know, be remembered. It's a lot of zeros and. And only one right now as a charger. So I just had to do what I can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do realize when you get a single digit number now, you got to be that boy, dog.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You understand that? Hey, I'm just saying.

[Dayon Henley]

Hey, Jay, I understand that, but as always, I bet on myself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And no wrong with it, bro.

[Dayon Henley]

I'm not a boastful dude by any means. And. And even now, just talking to y', all, I know where I'm at right now in my process, and I know that I'm just trying to. Trying to continue to grow. So I look at that zero as anything is. It's a blank state. I'm blank slate every game, every week. And what I do to build on that is what I'm gonna leave behind when I leave that number one day. And that's what I just, you know, that's how I move. That's my mindse. Like you said, be a dog. You know, I gotta. I gotta make that move every day. And I got coaches, got players, teammates, staff members pushing me every day.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, listen, you've gotten through training camp, preseason, now. We've gotten through week one.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

How's the body feel? How's everything holding up? How you feel going into week two?

[Dayon Henley]

I mean, one thing we know about football, y', all, is are you ever 100%?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, not after you take your ass to training camp.

[Dayon Henley]

I'm trying to tell you, you're never 100%, but it's about what you can do with that percentage that you are. And so for me, my body is where it is, and it is good. You know, I'm dealing with my little bumps and bruises. Training camp is long, a hardball. Training camp is long as hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Dayon Henley]

For both of them. And ours started early in everybody else's. We had that fourth preseason game, that hall of Fame game, so it's been a long one for us, but I got the training staff that's been taking care of me. Shout out them, and we got a long season ahead of us, and I'm just maintaining, you know, I gotta make sure I maintain and keep where I'm at right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You went to Crenshaw High. Are there any other. Any other athletes or famous people that went to high school with you?

[Dayon Henley]

With me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Dayon Henley]

At this. Nah, nah, nah, nah. It wasn't any that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have nobody from your team that made it to the league?

[Dayon Henley]

Nah, no. None in my. None in my class. None have. Are in the league right now. I think Daniel Griak was a defensive end that was right under me. He was with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers most recently. He's a free agent right now. But in the past, I couldn't even tell you. It's been me, I think, since like, the Anthony Thomas or. No, no. Janae Harris was marvelous. One was about, like, some years ago.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because y' all have a. I mean, that. That high school. Crenshaw's put a lot of guys into the league.

[Dayon Henley]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dayon Henley]

Crenshaw. Hey, man, stop mentioning them with me on the line.

[Chad Johnson]

My bad, my bad, My bad. My bad twins.

[Dayon Henley]

I respect them for la. I do.

[Chad Johnson]

My bad twin.

[Dayon Henley]

Hey, Shannon, I don't think you understand. It's a real rivalry, man. I mean, I used to lead them games with. With blood on my jersey. That wasn't from football. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So he keep playing with me right now.

[Chad Johnson]

My bad, my bad.

[Dayon Henley]

So I'm trying to get him. Stall them out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, but check this out. Let me ask. Let me ask you this. Your father is Eugene big U. Henley Jr.

[Dayon Henley]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did he make a conscious effort, or was it you, to make sure you stay away from that? Because you mentioned Crenshaw and we've heard all the stories. I mean, maybe it's not as. Maybe it's not as heavily involved as it once was it. But it used to be a lot of gang. A lot of gang affiliation, a lot of gang violence. Did he made a. Did you do that? Or did he do make a concerted effort? Say, son, this is not the life for you. You're gonna go do something positive.

[Dayon Henley]

One thing that I grew up understanding was that what my family is and who we are to this city is gonna always be with me. And my dad made it clear that I got a choice every day to make, to be above all of that, you know. And so my dad made it very clear that's not what he wanted for me in my life. He made it very, very clear that I had a better chance of making it to where I needed to go because I had his support. And I got two older brothers, Jabari Henley, Michael Henley. They're my older brothers. And they live a different life than me. You feel me? The route that people would assume I would have taken, they live right, and they made those choices. And that was because of the absence of my father at the time. You feel me? He wasn't there for them as much as he was for me. I got my dad fresh out, about four years old. And so he told me, like, straight up, you ain't got no option, bro. I'm here and make sure. We gonna make sure we get this done and done the right way. And obviously, you get to an age where you do have to make the decisions, you know? Cause he not. He. He not holding my hand. So that's why I say it was a collaborative. Collaborative effort. And then shout out my mom, Stacey Henley, because she was right there and holding down the house. That was. That was. I mean, one woman that taught me strength. You know, she showed me a lot about what strength is then and especially now. So shout out my mom. Like I said, Stacey Henley, and yeah, shout out my pops for where I am now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like that. I like that you made a positive decision. How much do you go back? Because there are a lot of kids that maybe don't think they have a choice, that the only choice that they can make is that life. But you're living proof. Like, I got two older brothers, my dad. But I made a decision that. That life wasn't for me. I believe that I had something better in store, that my life, God, had something bigger planned for me.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, sir, he has something bigger planned for you. But you just have to make the right decision.

[Dayon Henley]

That's 100%. And you say, how often do I go back? I put it in frame of mind for you right now. We got back from Brazil at 10am in the morning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dayon Henley]

My brother called me and said, it's a Pop Warner game. And Compton, right now, I'm fresh off the plane. I'm gonna go see them kids. It's just what it is. I was in training camp. OTAs. I did a football camp for him, and I couldn't really go see him or be involved then. You feel me? You can't. It's a. I gotta. I got a real job.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you Got a real job. Yeah. You got a real 9 to 5.

[Dayon Henley]

I can't go all the time or, you know, just any time. This was the opportunity. Fresh off the plane, straight from a 14 hour flight. Got in the Uber, dropped myself off at the facility and went to go see the kids. And that's. That was. Yeah, that was just this, what Saturday? So I was able to go do that. And that's just. You feel me? When I can, I will. And that's just, you know, showing love to the kids. Not only is it just trying to be a role model, but like showing them it's an option. I didn't really see this, this close of an athlete. They. They don't even look at me the same no more. They look at me like I'm just day on, you know, like Dan Henley, you know, the, the NFL thing kind of wearing off. But I, I want them to understand that this isn't normal. But also I want them to understand that it's a ton of.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's.

[Chad Johnson]

That's lie. That's dope. That's dope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You guys face the Raiders on week two Monday Night Football. You all, you. Are you already looking at tape? You are. They got a win. They went on the road to New England, got a big win. Geno threw for three over 300 yards. Brock bounds, we don't know his status. That would be somebody possibly you could be matched up with. We don't know. He did injure his knee, didn't return to the game. But I'm sure coach Harbaugh is going to tell you guys, hey and Bo, go say, look, we're going to, we're going to practice and prepare as if he's playing and if he doesn't pair play, we'll make an adjustment. But we're not going to get caught with that, you know, oh, he ain't playing and all of a sudden he show up and we don't have the proper technique and the plan in place for it.

[Dayon Henley]

Now you definitely understand, you know how I go. You know how I go. We locked in today. We straight. We. Hey, we wipe. We wipe one and oh, you know the. Now we're trying to get that two or no mindset going in and obviously that's always and every, every day we move and trying to get forward. You feel me? So we definitely on to the next team. We got one heck of a coaching staff over there in p. We know what he about. Shout out my divas coordinator Jesse mentor today. He was just talking about it. This is A team that are exactly where we were last year. New coach, not only a new coach, but a proven coach that knows how to win. And then with the staff that they feel that they are being able to curate and rejuvenate. So we. We see the competition and we see the tasks at hand, and then we know what we going over to do. It's Raiders. It's a natural rivalry going on, and.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then it is, you know.

[Dayon Henley]

You know, Harbaugh and Carroll.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This go back to college, you know what I'm saying? This go back to Stanford and usc.

[Chad Johnson]

Usc.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's your deal? What's your deal?

[Dayon Henley]

Got my coach back. I got my coach back. That's all I'm saying. I got my coach back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dion, thanks for coming on with us tonight, man. Thanks for giving us a few moments of your time. We really, really appreciate it. Keep up the great work, not only on the field, but in the community as well. Tell the family I said hello. And you know what? Y' all win that division, come back on and tell us about it.

[Dayon Henley]

Oh, you know. You know, that's what we going. We chasing that. My sister told me to tell you she love you and then chat the Madden ratings.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, tell me what you need. Tell me what you need.

[Dayon Henley]

I just want. I just want my power.

[Chad Johnson]

I got you.

[Dayon Henley]

I just want you to watch me. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You know what I'm saying?

[Dayon Henley]

I've been watching you since Crenshaw.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I know you.

[Dayon Henley]

Nothing giving, man. Nothing giving. I. I earned it. I ain't got no. I ain't got no problem with earning mines. I'm just. I just finally get to status to. You know what I'm saying? I gotta say, I got y', all, man, the real. Jeez, one.

[Chad Johnson]

One question. I. I don't mean to be greedy, but my grandma always told me a closed mouth don't get fed. But if I do make my way to la, okay, if I can get just one. One ticket, you.

[Dayon Henley]

Hey, man, what you need? What you need?

[Chad Johnson]

It's just one. I. I travel alone with that.

[Dayon Henley]

I might. I got a ticket. I got a jersey for both of y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Dayon Henley]

Y'. All. Hey, man, y', all my OG's number.

[Chad Johnson]

We ain't talking about. We ain't talking about him. We ain't talking about him. We talk about me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He leave me behind, man. He don't take me nowhere. He said I got too old, I can't keep up.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, I got.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, I try. I travel with me. Me and my. Me and my baby, you know, me and my girl, you know.

[Dayon Henley]

Come on, man. I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nothing.

[Dayon Henley]

Nothing. Y' all trying to come to sideline. We get the passes.

[Chad Johnson]

I want to stay on the sideline the whole game.

[Dayon Henley]

I only just became captain.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, okay.

[Dayon Henley]

It's only. It's only my first year out here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's all about Ocho mad. Damn. You try to get the man a captainship revolt.

[Dayon Henley]

I'm saying, like they gonna. You know what I'm saying?

[Chad Johnson]

Harper know me. He know me. We go way back.

[Dayon Henley]

Way back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I did play. I was in the league when Harbaugh played, so I did play, which I did play with him. Oh, yeah, Actually, he was. He was. He was my quarterback one year at the Pro bowl when he was at Indy.

[Dayon Henley]

Damn you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, I am. I am. Damn.

[Chad Johnson]

You.

[Dayon Henley]

You could be coaching somebody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no. I ain't got no patience to do that now.

[Dayon Henley]

Hey, hey. I see how you talk about these players, man. You probably. You probably right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't gonna even hold you on that one. When you right, you ain't wrong.

[Dayon Henley]

Respect my dog. Ten, man. Respect. Ten, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, hey, he balled out. Yeah, but you know, when you're that level of talent.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, you get judged by postseason much differently.

[Dayon Henley]

Hey, he ain't got much to say to y', all, so I say it for him. And that's what he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Watch him.

[Dayon Henley]

That's gonna be. Just watch what he do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We best believe because you know. Hey, now, you.

[Dayon Henley]

What's going on?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Tell Quinn I already know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You already know what this is? Come on, now.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, there you go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, now.

[Chad Johnson]

There you go. You see how you treat our guests?

[Dayon Henley]

You see how you doing, man? What are you turning into? What are you turning this into? You trying to bait me? You trying to rage? Bait me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was.

[Dayon Henley]

Hand for life. Respect. Respect to every opponent the country. Respect to every opponent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bronco Country. Raise up now. Come on.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey. See, that's why. That's why I told you, just give me tickets. See what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, here for life. That's what we own.

[Dayon Henley]

Okay. Okay. I respect it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Fr. Appreciate you, bro. Get some rest. Good luck this weekend. Stay healthy. We'll see you down the road.

[Dayon Henley]

Shout out, y'. All, man, I appreciate y' all for having me there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y Ladies and gentlemen.

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