Nightcap Hour 1: Unc WANTS REFUND after Charles Oliveira x Max Holloway FIGHT + Borralho BEATS de Ridder + Rosas Jr DEFEATS Font + Maxx Crosby TRADED to RAVENS

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1: "Unc WANTS REFUND after Charles Oliveira x Max Holloway FIGHT + Borralho BEATS de Ridder + Rosas Jr DEFEATS Font + Maxx Crosby TRADED to RAVENS"

Date: March 8, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”) & Chad Ochocinco Johnson (“Ocho”)

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Episode Overview

This lively Nightcap episode finds Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco reacting to a jam-packed combat sports and NFL weekend. The main event is the much-hyped but underwhelming Charles Oliveira vs. Max Holloway UFC rematch—prompting Sharpe’s call for a refund. The duo also react to other major UFC results, Baltimore’s blockbuster trade for Maxx Crosby, and sprinkle in classic banter, personal anecdotes, and hot takes throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Charles Oliveira vs Max Holloway: UFC Letdown

[03:07–11:46]

• Sharpe’s Disappointment:
  Sharpe opens with his blunt, entertaining disappointment at an anticlimactic fight where Oliveira dominated Holloway on the ground.

  • “It was a boring fight. That’s not what I expected...I expected to see these things let go.” – Shannon Sharpe (05:50)
  • “When you say you the baddest mofo...you gotta let them hands go. That’s not what we got tonight.” – Shannon Sharpe (05:10)

• Fight Analysis:
  Both hosts note Holloway was outwrestled — taken down repeatedly and held down, with no effective counter.

  • “Oliveira stayed close...throw a kick and get him to react and then go low and take him down. He did it five rounds straight.” – Ocho (07:01)

• Wider Fan Frustration:
  The crowd’s audible boos become a talking point, with both agreeing fans want action, not just technical dominance.

  • “They want to see blood. They want to see knockouts. They want to see somebody looking up at T-Mobile...” – Shannon Sharpe (11:46)
  • “Hey, they will boo your ass...you could give them three two rounds, non-stop action, but you clinch and don’t do nothing for 10 seconds, they’ll boo.” – Shannon Sharpe (11:46)

• Respect for Oliveira’s Execution:
  Still, both credit Oliveira’s smart, if unspectacular, dominance:

  • “He had a great gameplan...I cannot throw with you...What does he not do well? Ground game. I know I win there.” – Ocho (09:02)

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2. Recapping the Rest of UFC Card & Styles Make Fights

[12:59–16:13 & 28:07–37:09]

• Michael Johnson KO & Dangers of Switching Stance:
  After Johnson is KO’d after switching to southpaw:

  • “If you’re not used to…There are very few men that fight orthodox and can jump into a southpaw stand. You’re not Bud Crawford!” – Sharpe (15:18)

• Borralho Beats de Ridder, Calls Out Du Plessis:

  • “Bolajo won every round...he throws with the intent of knocking somebody out. Every last one of them.” – Ocho (28:17)
  • Both marvel at Borralho’s power and callout.

• Raul Rosas Jr dominates Rob Font:

  • “The 21-year-old Rojas was dominant, recording 16 takedowns on his way to the biggest victory in his young career…another positive step toward his goal of breaking Jon Jones’s record as youngest champ.” – Sharpe (29:28)
  • “He a big ass lightweight, bantamweight. Damn, he tall.” – Ocho (30:13)

• Styles Dictate Action:
  The hosts repeatedly note how matchup styles (striker vs grappler; technician vs KO artist) shape whether fans see “wars” or technical shutouts.

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3. NFL Bombshell: Maxx Crosby Traded to Ravens

[45:07–69:45]

• Trade Details and Reaction:

  • Sharpe breaks the news: “The Ravens acquired Max Crosby from the Raiders in exchange for two first round picks...Crosby, 28, a five-time Pro Bowler, will be a game-changer for the Ravens.” (45:07)

• Impact on Ravens:

  • Ocho: “With the addition of Max Crosby, he does improve them defensively...but is it enough to make them contenders? It really comes down to Lamar Jackson in the postseason.” (45:44)
  • Sharpe: “What I like…Max Crosby is a two-way player. Plays the run and the pass. He kind of reminds me of Jared Allen…plays the run better than Allen.” (48:04)

• Respect Across the League – Jamar Chase’s Reaction:

  • Big moment: “The biggest reaction…came from Jamar Chase. (Imitating) ‘Oh my God, how the f*** did we let this go to the division, bro?’” – Sharpe/Jamar Chase (68:02–68:39)
  • “And his…reaction alone lets you know who Crosby is. The respect he has from other players.” – Ocho (68:51)

• Team-Building & NFL Business Insights:
  Both give real talk about NFL front offices, the business side, and why aging players are moved or let walk rather than re-signed.

  • “You let a man walk…and his value wasn’t going to get any higher. He’s coming off back-to-back 17 sacks...Cincinnati, you let him walk and get nothing for it.” – Sharpe (49:17)

• What’s Next for Baltimore?
  Needs identified: another receiver (“You need a stud. Go get you a stud.” – Sharpe, 59:08), and more depth in the secondary.

  • “If matabweek can come back and play…you got Crosby, I’d still try to get me a corner…” – Sharpe (57:23)

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4. Around the League—NFL Offseason Trades & Free Agency

[58:35–69:45]

• Receiver Market:
  Ocho predicts more movement: “A.J. Brown is going to end up with the New England Patriots. I’m telling you ahead of time.” (59:01)

  • Sharpe: “I think there are receivers that’ll give more bang for the buck…”

• Raiders’ Future & Rebuild:

  • “Max wanted out...It was being reported…but what is he supposed to say when he’s still on the roster?” – Sharpe (64:42)
  • “If you get a C.J. Stroud or Will Anderson ... it won’t take you long at all [to rebuild].” – Sharpe (65:32)

• Can Stars Like CeeDee Lamb Get Traded?

  • Ocho floats the idea but Sharpe doubts it, noting Jerry Jones’s attachment: “I think Jerry loves CeeDee.” (67:15)

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5. Broader Sports & Life Gems

[16:13–17:54, 39:12–41:08]

• Fighting Backgrounds and Hunger:
  The hosts discuss how fighters often come from tough backgrounds and why that hunger matters.

  • “When you got an empty stomach, a broken heart, and an empty back pocket, you fight your ass off.” – Sharpe (18:35)

• Ochocinco's Personal Milestone:
  Ocho shares that he just became a licensed officiant—and did his first wedding!

  • “I am, I’m licensed, I’m an ordained minister, and I’m a brother of the cloth, as I like to call it.” – Ocho (40:08)
  • Offers to officiate and also, “I extend my services for divorces as well!” (40:42)

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Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• Fan Expectation vs Fighter Strategy:
  “I get it, you won the game, but damn, that’s not what the fans came to see.” – Sharpe (08:50)

• On Being a Technical Fighter:
  “When it comes to the fighters that are more skilled, more technical, the margin for error is very small…So most of the time, they’re careful when they take their chances.” – Ocho (34:33)

• On Running with What’s Working:
  “You want me to change it? Make me change it. But why change it when it’s working?” – Sharpe (35:09)

• NFL Real Talk:
  “If you want me to come, you got to pay. Because guess what, if you don’t, write down the road will.” – Sharpe (52:22)

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Timestamped Highlights

| Segment | Timestamp | |----------------------------------------------------------|------------------| | Oliveira vs Holloway fight recap & main disappointment | 03:07–11:46 | | UFC styles – ground game vs stand-up, fan frustration | 05:13–11:46 | | Michael Johnson KO discussion | 13:12–15:44 | | Raul Rosas Jr’s rising star | 29:28–30:59 | | Maxx Crosby traded to the Ravens: analysis and hot takes | 45:07–49:46 | | Jamar Chase’s reaction to Crosby trade | 68:02–68:51 | | Ochocinco officiates a wedding (comic interlude) | 39:12–41:08 | | Predictions/trade talk: AJ Brown, CeeDee Lamb, WR needs | 59:01–67:22 |

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Tone, Language, and Style

• The show is delivered in classic Club Shay Shay style: humorous, unfiltered, banter-heavy, and full of “real talk” athlete perspective.
• Sharpe and Ochocinco are both candid and self-aware, frequently acknowledging their limits as analysts versus the fighters and team execs they critique.

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Summary Takeaway

This Nightcap episode brings Club Shay Shay’s signature blend: sharp, quick-witted breakdowns of the biggest UFC and NFL headlines—with fan advocacy, deep athlete knowledge, and plenty of jokes. Come for the spicy takes on lackluster fights and major trades, stay for the locker room energy and unique sports insights.

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[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

And both landed a couple of punches, but clearly Charles Oliveira had it not. He said, look, I'm coming to win the fight.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, damn.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

What y' all expect? I can show you. Dana White is not happy. Before I let you go, Ocho. Thank you, Dana White. Thank you, ufc, for getting us the tickets to come to the nice fight. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Can't thank you enough. Go ahead, Ocho.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Obviously, listen, I was expecting a really good fight. I heard Cormier say the fans that were booing, they were casuals. How could you not appreciate the dominance that Oliveira showed, obviously on the ground and grappling being. That's what he's best at, if not the best, one of the best in UFC right now at. At the ground game, you have two different, two, two different fighting styles. You have two fighters. One is really good at fighting and grappling on the ground. You have one That's a. A phenomenal striker, one of the better strikers in the ufc, and Max Holloway. And he refused to give Max in any type of leverage, any type of room to do. To do just that. I thought Max would have had a better game plan, seeing after round one, okay, he's not going to allow me to strike. I'm going to have to be on the move every time. I'm going to have to be on my bicycle, not going straight back, but unleashing. Max is a volume puncher. Get a few punches out, either swing to the right or swing to the left. But every time he comes straight back, all he does is he stayed close. Oliveira stayed close. He would throw a kick and get him to react and then go low and take him down to the ground and shoot him down. He did it five rounds straight.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Five rounds.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Five rounds straight. It's almost like every round, goddamn Max Holloway was on his back three minutes of the goddamn round, and he couldn't.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

He couldn't get him off. He had no. He had no answer to get him off. He started the full. The full guard, then he went to the side and side guard. It really didn't matter. I think the thing is, Ocho is just like a lot of people thought that the bmf and you see when Holloway and guys, they throw, when Masvidal had the belt, throw hands, that's what people were expecting. I under. Look, we. We understand the situation where you're not the baddest mofo. That belt means something. It's a little different. It's like we're in a three point competition. We in like, okay, the first to 20, and we supposed to be shooting threes and you shoot layups. I get it, you won the game, but damn, that's not what the fans came to see.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

That's not what the fans came to see. Also un. But you have to understand, as a fighter, what do I do best? That's how I have to win.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Neutralize what you do. I'm gonna do what I do best while neutralizing what you do best.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Bingo. And then listen, he had a great game plan going into it. I'm not going. I'm not. I cannot throw with you. I cannot sit in the pocket. I cannot sit at range and go blow for blow with Max. That. That is his strength. That's what he does extremely well. What does he not do well? Ground game. I know I win there. And Oliveira is obviously the bigger man. He was huge. He was huge. He was much bigger than tonight. I. I would have Liked to see Max. I know he wants to stand there, he wants to, to, to, to, to show that he can sit there and exchange punches and throwing volume. But he, he needed a different game plan tonight, especially after round one, seeing what Oliveira wanted to do as far as just taking him down and smothering most of the punches. And I mean, listen, I, I, I'm sure those that are, that are enthusiasts, you know, they appreciate the fight and the dominance from Oliveira. For those that were looking for a knockout and want to see, you know, a war, you know.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah, I think that's what they wanted to see, Ocho. And I think the thing, I think the mistake that Max Holloway made, he fell into the trap, that, you know what? Oliveira is going to come throw hands. The bms, we the baddest mofos on the planet. We're going to, hey, it ain't going to be no, it's not going to go to the cards. I don't want it to go to the cards.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Right, right.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I won't let. We decided, right. And, and, and, and the thing is, I'm not so sure that he practiced defending the takedown, right? Because it looked like he had no answer. Now, he tried, like, rounds four and rounds three and four. He tried it for as long as he could, but Olivera still, boom. Yeah, gotta be, hey. And he couldn't. And that's the thing that you can't stop the tape and you can't snuff, snuff out the takedown. What are they gonna do? And you can't get him up. Yeah, he get on top of you and you can't, you can't get him up. You can't get off the ground for four minutes. And I mean, each round was like three and a half, four minutes. Just, just ride, just ride, ride, ride, ride. I'm like, damn.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

And the funny thing, lady sitting next

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

to us like, oh, get off him. I was like, ma', am, I don't think that's gonna happen. You can get him up off it.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

And the funny thing about it, you have to understand also when someone's on top of you, you know, for that long, you know how much energy you're exerting, trying. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Trying to get him up off you. Yes.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

And not only that, Chris Oliveira beat Max Holloway at his game when he, when they were standing up for the few times they did exchange. Hell, he landed 79% of his punches leading up into the punches, his strikes leading up into the goddamn fourth round. So he dominated. Not only standing up, striking but he dominated him on the ground, too. So Max really had no. Had no answer. I would. I would. I would have hoped for a different game plan. I'm sure it's going to be a trilogy. I'm sure. They gotta fight. They gotta fight again.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Right? You know, but Danny gonna say, look here, man, I ain't paying y' all no money to come down there and lay on the ground. Hey, hey, I come to see. I come to turn the light up out the building. That's why you get the prize. You get fight of the night, and you get knocked out tonight. And they get 25, $50,000, because that's what the fans want to see, man. Hey, they will boo your ass. Hey, look, you could. Hey, you could give them three, two rounds, right? Non stop action, Ocho. Yeah, but I tell you what. Get your ass in the clinch, it don't do nothing for like, 2, 10 seconds, 15 seconds. I was like, well, damn. Yeah, they just gave you ten. They just gave you ten and a half minutes of non stop action. Yeah, but those fans want to see blood. They want to see knockouts. They want to see somebody looking up at T Mobile, somebody looking up at ufc. That's what they wanted. I'm just telling you, right? I've been. I. I'm not going to say I'm. I'm Joe Rogan or Daniel CRO, but I've been to enough of those fights, right? I know what the fans want to see, and they want to see Blood. And what was that movie with Daniel Day Lewis? There Will Be Blood.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

There Will Be Blood.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

That's what those fans want to see.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

But I thought. Ola, look, Oliveira. They look good. I mean, I thought. I thought it was a. It was. Well, I'm trying to think. The guy got knocked out, the brother got knocked out. I was like, damn, bro.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Michael Johnson.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah, Ocho, I watched that fight. He got. Hey, got the fake with the right,

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

that left came out of nowhere. Boom. Yep. I mean, listen, he was. Michael Johnson was doing really well up until that point, too.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

He was. The Falcons was doing really well. They was up 28,3. They were doing really well until they worked.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Right?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

And that's. And that is the thing about a fight. You can be doing really well. You can be leading. Round one, round five, round ten.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

And then somebody throws a shot that you don't see, and it's over.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

You know what? At that level, when it comes to the elite, when it comes to the best of the best, obviously, in the UFC and Boxing as well. Everybody has a punches chance.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Everybody has a punching chance.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Them light ass gloves.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

You damn near. Oh, you damn near bare knuckle, to be honest.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Them only four ounce gloves, basically.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

So basically you got an isotone on your hand. That's basically. And so you hear something like I said, made a hit old boy in the jaw.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Just like to do that was one punch. Rodriguez went straight down the pipe bow.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

He was done.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Dude. Hey, dude. Switched to southpaw. And as soon as we switched the southpaw shop, it was a rap.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

It was a rap.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

And he was looking and he ain't. He ain't even hit him again. Oh, he could have. Yeah. Because you see a lot of time they hit him and then he come with a big boom. He like, nah, I'm good. I'mma let you. I'm gonna let you. I'm gonna let you live to see another day. But just know I had something for you.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah. Hey, I mean that's, that's, that's messed up. And you got to be careful too. All that, all that switch. Switch switching stances, you. When you, when you do that, if you're comfortable at one stance, you know where you're vulnerable. If you're going to switch to southpaw or you're doing unorthodox, you got to know where, where your weaknesses are.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

And obviously switching like that, I know it's cool to be able to do it, but you got to understand it looks you had a disadvantage in certain areas.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

And the thing is, if, if you're not used to. First of all, there are very few men that fight orthodox can jump into a southpaw stand. Yeah. You're not Bud Crawford.

[Sponsor Announcer]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

They're very few. Stay in your orthodox and, and make that work. So what you did, you left, you. You made yourself vulnerable.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, bro, yes, it's crazy. It's crazy.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

But I was. I am not gonna lie, Ocho, considering because even, even the fight before that, that was action. I mean, nobody got knocked out or got submitted, but there was action.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, they. They were, they were going.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

And I was like, oh, man. Oliveira Holloway. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

You thought you're gonna get something nice, huh? Fireworks.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Hey, the doctor's coming in the ring and somebody gonna put ice on somebody back. You are right. You know, you know where you are. They're gonna be asking a bunch of questions. You. That's what I was expecting in the Holloway Oliveira fight.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

We didn't get that. Now, congratulations. Oliveira, he won the fight. I'm not. Look, when you go back, if you study fighting, most great fighters came from very impoverished conditions. You look at that. You look at those Brazilians.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

They come from the favela. Oh, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

You look at a guy like Conor McGregor, he from. From the streets to get of Ireland. You look at the Russians, they ain't getting no college scholarship. They gotta fight. And so when you come up having to fight, you know how to fight.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but for the most part, when you look at fighters, boxers, ufc, whatever the case may be, look at their background.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I guarantee you they ain't come from no silver spoon.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

You know what's funny? And it's not just ufc. You think about football. Everyone has a story, everyone has a background.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Most of them depending on high percentage soccer players. You know, I mean, basketball. No, that's our ticket out. That is our way out.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah. Ain't no, ain't too many 2 car, 3 car, full car garage using the fight. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Very small.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

No, no, no, no, no. You ain't getting in that sport. That ain't. That ain't no sport. If you had a nice cushy life.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

That you get into.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Right. Unless you just got the love fighting.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Not with no four car garage. I'm going up. I don't love it that much. A three car. Hell, a single car. Garage, somebody. Hey, garage.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Park that damn car. Put in the shade tree.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Get out, walk in the house. It wasn't no garage.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Hey, you knew. You ever been to Brazil? You ever been to the favelas?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I have not been to the favelas, man. I've seen, you know, obviously seen documentaries of it and see how it was. And they tell the story how Michael Jackson wanted to film. Yeah. I don't really know about. They don't really care about us.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I think that was the name of the song.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

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[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

And the. The government wouldn't. You couldn't get clearance.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

He had to get permission. He had to get permission from the date.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah, we got it.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Ain't nobody. Hey, nobody. He was the safest man in Brazil.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

But like I said, you look at, you look at Khabib, you look at the Dagestanian from Russia and you look at these. Hey, bro, when you got a. You got a. A empty stomach or empty back pocket and a broken heart, you fight your ass off. Yeah. You fight your ass off. But like I said, I know I would have expected Oliveira put on the clinic. Ocho, I know you want to see us throw for 500 yards, but they can't stop the run.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

There you go.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

That's what I used to tell them all the time, bro. I promise you, if y' all stop TD, we'll throw the ball. But if you don't stop TD, he getting 5, 6, 7 yards of carry. What's the incentive that we have to throw it?

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Throw it?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

When you can't stop, we can just turn around and hand it to him, and he getting 15, 20 yards of clip y. So what's the incentive for us to drop back to throw it where your ball might get tipped, somebody might miss a protection and get John hit in the back of the head.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Now, now, also tonight, for those that are watching, those that wanted to see fireworks, the only way we would have gotten fireworks if Max Holloway had a counter for being taken down. If you were able to stop being taken down, then we can make it. We can. We can make it a fight where we got to stand up now. Now we got to throw. But he had no answer for it.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Well, the thing is, he's got. He's got to be able to snuff the takedown. Once. He couldn't snuff that. So what was his counter? He couldn't get. He couldn't fight off. He couldn't get off the ground. He couldn't get off his back. No, once that. Once. Once Oliveira got him on the mat.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

He could not get up for the rest of the fight. So if he took him down with three and a half minutes, he took him down with four minutes. The fight stayed on the map for the final three and a half, four

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

minutes the whole time. Yeah,

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I'm sure that's not how he wanted it to end. I can assure you. Probably. Max Holloway would probably prefer to been knocked out than to have it end like this.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Like this, probably. So either either that or submitted.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

But hell, yeah, I thought he. He tried. He tried. I thought he had it in the. In the first almost. He couldn't. He couldn't get it deep enough.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, his. His defense was very good. His defense on the ground was very good. You know, he took a few shots on the ground, but as far as being, you know, being able to maneuver and using his hands really well to make sure he wasn't submitted, he was. He did. He was. I mean, listen, he did it really well. And it's for one, for us to be saying what we wanted to see. But actually being in there and having a fight is two different things. It's two different things, you know, when you're under fire. So us saying this is what you should have done, you know, but yes. I mean, we ain't in there, cuz we.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Oo. What do fans say when they lose a game? You should have been running it. You should have blitzed. You should have did this. It's easy to say that after the fact.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Give. Give Oliver's credit. He debate the bmf and so it's gonna be interesting to see what's next on his card.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

I'm just getting ready to ask you that. What's next?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

So he in the 155. So that's what, lightweight.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

What about. What about what is Ilia fight at support?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Might be 155.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

That'd be a good one.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

No, hey, now, he definitely got dynamite in his hands. He definitely got dynamite in his hands.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, that'd be a good one. As long as he got it. I mean, I'm sure Ilya. I don't know much about Ilya style and what he does. I mean, is he good at. Is he good at the ground game? That I know he can strike?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I ain't never seen him,

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

I think.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Didn't Ilia knock? Hold on. So somebody knocked Oliveira out. Who knocked him out? Somebody knocked him out. Was it Volco? Now Ilya can fight. He let them hands go. I was hope. You know what I was hoping for A guy. I was hoping for Chat Ocho. I was hoping for, you know, Max Holloway and Oliver, because he said if you called me to. Oliveira said, if you call me to the center, I'm gonna come and we're gonna let these hands fly. So I was hoping.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Well, hold on. He called him to the center with 20 seconds to go in the goddamn fight. He let him. He let him get up. Obviously, when they got off the ground, he caught him. He caught him again. Okay, Oliveira caught him again.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah. Ilya knocked out Oliveira.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Jose, they fought already. Okay, okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I know somebody had knocked him out. I mean, he. He got hands. No, he really. He really, really, really got hands.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

But I'm trying to think who's. Who's the. Who is the fight that people want to see? I mean, they. They introduced the card that's going to be at the White House that's going to fight.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

14th. I don't know what it's called. America 250 is the celebrating anniversary of. I'm not. I'M not sure, I'm not sure what they're gonna call this card. I know it's the celebration of uh, the America birthday of 250 years. But it's gonna be, it's gonna be, you know, Gaichi and to poor fight.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

That's, that's the main event, right?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

That's the main event. Pierre and Sarah gone fight. So they got, they got a nice card. I was, I was hoping to see Jon Jones on there.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Is it too late? It's too late, huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah, it's too late. They don't set the card now.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Damn.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

They got it. They don't set the card. I think the thing is it plus the last thing you want to have happen is something, you know, they said Johnny and then Johnny f the card up. So.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Right, right.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I think Dana, I think Dana's like, you know what? Let's go with the sure thing. Let's, let's. We know these guys are going to be where they supposed to be and do it.

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[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Bolajo won every round when he fought Deridder tonight. Now he wants the plessy.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

The Plessy. Yo, he did call the plessy out. I couldn't understand. I couldn't understand.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

He thought, hey, hey dude, throw hard too man. He was bad that Joe was throwing. I was like damn. I mean he was. I Mean, every punch he throws, he throws with the intent of knocking somebody out.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah,

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

every, every last one of them. And he like, he'll big dude because as we were leaving, he was in the hallway. Yeah, yeah, wait, I understand. He may wait at what, 185 and eight? 186. But after refuel, right? Probably 195. Close to two, easy. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, you look, I, I think the thing is we kind of get spoiled because there's something about a knockout. It's like boxing. Now, if you go get. If you give me, if you give me. 10 rounds, 12 rounds of non stop action action, you don't know. I can live with that. Right. But man, that, that.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Punches, clinching and boxing.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah, all that.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, you clinch again and. Nah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

The men's band away. Raul Rojas Jr. Defeated Rob Font by unanimous decision. The 21 year old Rojas was dominant, recording 16 takedowns on his way to the biggest victory in his young career. The matchup was a big step up in competition for the youngest fighter in the UFC has ever signed. He's likely to be ranked, come back Monday. And took another positive step toward his goal of breaking Jon Jones's record as the youngest champion in UFC history. If I'm not mistaken, I think John was what, 21? He looked good. He looked good. I mean, he just like, bro. I mean, but Rojas was big. That man tall as hell.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, very tall.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Hell yeah. He a big ass lightweight, abandoned weight. Damn. I mean, he tall. Lo Cho. Poor fun. I'm like, damn. Oh, Jon Jones was 23 years, 243 days old.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

But hey, John is the truth, man. He's the truth. I would love that. That would have been, that would have been. The White House card is already stacked, it's already nice, everybody. But just having Jon Jones a part of that White House card, I think it would, it would have been special.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

But here's the thing. Who was, who was he gonna fight? He wanted to fight Pieta, who's fighting Cyril.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Gone. Right.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I think the thing that they wanted to have happen at an earlier time was him fighting. What's the, what's the, the guy that got hurt end up, he got an eye, got his eye gouge out and I forget his name, but that's the guy they wanted. That's what that, that's, that's the fight that Dana wanted to have. Oh, Tom Aspinall. Tom Aspinall. That's the fight that you know. But then when you look at it and you look at how he was fighting against. And John Joe's like, is that the guy that y' all thought could beat me? Did y' all see how I ran through him?

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

And y' all thought that guy could beat me? Pierre, I mean, bro, a three division champ, something they've never had. But he big man, dog. I mean, he. I mean, what you think?

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

What you think they weigh about what, two something?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Well, I mean, 185, 205. And you can't be more than 265 as a heavyweight.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Okay?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

So, I mean, for him to. To get down to 185. He was killing himself to get down to 185 because he's a big man. He's a big man. Would I be surprised that he walked around at 220? Nope, I wouldn't. You know, I would not be surprised. I would not be surprised if he walked around at 220. Gonna be interesting fight. God is getting better. He's getting better.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah. You. You going. You going to the White House card?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I don't know. I don't know, man. You know, everything's gonna be so Damn expensive in D.C. ocho.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

But hold on, wait a minute now. Not for you. You just went to the fight tonight.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

The fighting at the hotel, the whole. The fighting at the flights.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

I mean, a flight to D.C. that ain't number, but you can get a flight for like 150. Okay. They didn't get your ticket, so boom, that, that knocks everything out.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Hotels, man, them hotels, man, they. They rake you over the coals.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

You never tried extended stay. You ever been there before? Yeah, extend the. Say, got kitchen, refrigerator, microwave.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I want my. I want my kitchen to be. I want my kitchen to be downstairs and to bring it up to my room. That's why. That's why I want my kitchen.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, I'm just trying to get you places that's very. That's inexpensive, you know, quick. Or maybe an Airbnb. You probably. You get off cheaper with that.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

No, I don't want to be. I don't want to sleep in nobody else house. I don't. I don't. Oh. Oh, yeah. Lightweight Drew Dover defeated Michael Johnson via KO Punch. 153, around two. Gregory Rodriguez defeated Bruno Fiera via knockout, one punch, 147, round one. See, that would. I just think the thing is, like, the UFC has gotten people spoiled so much because, you know, dynamite good things normally happen on show. Somebody normally goes to sleep, somebody get choked out, you know, rear naked guillotine. Armbar. Try something Submit. Something happens that you're like, damn, that must have been pretty bad. You made somebody tap out, made somebody call you uncle. Because I would tap out here, say, okay, call me uncle. Yeah, and I'll let you go.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

But. But also, you know what else people have to remember, too, when it comes to better fighters, when it comes to the fighters that are a little bit more skilled, a little bit more technical, you know, the margin for error is very small.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

You can get slept or you can get some. You could get submitted so that most of the time, they're very careful on when they take their chances and that they're safe. I mean, tonight, you saw within the last fight. You know what? I'm gonna play it safe. I'm gonna do what he doesn't do. Well, I'm gonna take round, and that's how I'm gonna win the fight, whether people boo or not. That was Oliveira's plan.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yes, there was. And you want me to change it? Make me change it. But why change it when it's working? Like I said, he came to. He came to win. I know what the BMF stand for. You slug it out. And guys that have held that belt, they slugged it out and knocked somebody out. But that was not Charles Oliveira's plan. His plan was to take as little punishment as possible, take it to the mat. And knowing Holloway, that's not what Holloway is good at. Getting off his back and. And getting back to the center of the ring, that wasn't what he was good at. And it showed tonight. He was shut out. He. I don't. I. I wouldn't have had him winning one round.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

No.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Not one. He got dominated for five rounds.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah. And I was like. And even the last round, he ended up getting guard, and somehow what you call him, ended up taking it right back.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah. Even. Even when. When they got back up, they got back up. He took Oliveira. Took him right back down.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah. Probably most interesting fight of the preliminary card was Kobe Gamhart against Zhao Yong via unanimous decision. Gaha ate several low blows in round three. The second one literally vomited in a bucket before the port was deducted from his opponent. Zhao Long lost another point when he landed the knee in the clinch below the belt soon after. I mean, man, he was killing that man. Man. Wow. And. And the thing you all saw, the reaction on his face don't show you like, yeah, you did that, bro. I'm sorry. You got it. You got it.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Y' all see? Got to be more.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I'm talking about One of them, he got him straight with his toe. I'm talking about, you know, normally try to kick with the side because you don't want to break.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, he kick right.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Oh, my goodness. And, you know, they give you. They give you five minutes, and he was like, obviously you don't want to take that counter because people like, oh, they take that long. It didn't hurt that bad. You ain't never been hit there.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

If you ain't. If you have never been hit in your private.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah. Oh, it hurt. It hurt. Now let. Let a kick.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

What?

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Man, stop playing. It hurt.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah, you feel like you look gay.

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[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I can't. You can't breathe. Somebody got a bag over your head, and every time you try to take a breath, they put another bag over your head. Man, that thing hurts so bad.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yes, it does.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

But we had fun. I had fun. I had fun tonight. Got an opportunity. I was in the lounge for the. I got there too early. We got there too early. I got it. I got. I got to do a better job timing it.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

You was there for a long time before the fights even started, huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

No, no, no, no. I got. I thought I was. I thought we was getting. I was like, okay, we get there next time. I ain't leaving my house until about 7. I want to see last. I don't see, like, last four fights. That's it. So you.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

I mean, you was early, like we was for the Bud. The Bud and Canelo.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah, not quite that early. Not quite that early.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, we were. Well, we were early. That boy.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah, man. Never again. Never no more. As a matter of fact, they might be. Hey, I might be riding. Hey, Bud might need him walking to the ring.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

And then you walk me, right?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I'll be. I will be walking in with it. Walking to the ring. Ocho, what'd you do tonight?

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Oh, man. But, you know, I'm back in Houston again.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

What?

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Man, I'm back in Houston again, man. Listen, a certain individual. I don't want to say any names.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Chat.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Y' all stay with me real quick. A certain individual called me, you know, not panicking, but hoping I could do them a favor.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Okay?

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

I say, well, cool. I could do your favor. So I asked him what you need me to do. He said, I need you to be an efficient to my wedding. Did I say that right? An official efficient. Tent efficient to my wedding.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I don't know what an efficient is.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Official efficient. Okay. There it is.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, that. Okay.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

An efficient. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah. So you're gonna officially, you're gonna officiate the wedding.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

I was officiating the wedding. So I said, of course I'll come down. Just give me a flight, give me a room and, And I'll be an officiant for your wedding. I flew to Houston. I landed today. This was short notice. Now, he hit me two days ago, right? Boom. One day goes by, I fly in a day. I had a flight 9 o' clock this morning. I landed when it got fitted for a tuxedo. Had them size everything, you know, together, whatever, whatever. Boom. I missed rehearsal on Friday, so I had to, I had, I had my script. I had to memorize as much as I could. Got it there, you know. And by the powers invested in me, I now announce you. You know, you may kiss, you know.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

And I did my first wedding. So now. Okay, that people in the chat. You're now open that, as you can see right there, chat. I am, I'm licensed, I'm an ordained minister and I'm a brother of the cloth, as I like to call it. I'm a brother of the cloth now. So anybody you know, anybody getting married and you need me to officiate your wedding?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Officiate.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Officiate.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yes. The actual process of. Is a. You officiated, right? Official. Right.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Okay, officiate. There it is. But, but listen, anybody, anybody's looking for someone to officiate their wedding, their nuptials or whatever, you want to renew your vows, I can do that as well. Also I'm, I, I extend my services also for divorces as well, you know. So I'm here. You know how to reach me. I'll have a link in my bio by tomorrow. And yeah, I'm excited.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Isn't the rodeo going on in Houston?

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, yeah, rodeo. Rodeo going on. Yeah, rodeo. Well, it's storm and raining. It's storm and raining. I ain't go there. It's raining. Yeah, it was raining bad.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah. Nah, nah. Rodeo and rain don't go together. Mud.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Now that mud. Yeah, yeah, it was raining bad. But hey, hey.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

But I can imagine they had them, they had some boots on boosting.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure they out there. I'm sure, I'm sure they had to. Yeah. But yeah, my baby with me. So I wouldn't pay. I wasn't paying no, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, I don't blame you. I don't blame you.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, right, right here. Tunnel vision, huh? Yeah, you know, like, like a horse in the Kentucky Derby. I have my blast yeah yeah yeah I I only see one way straight

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

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The Ravens acquired Max Crosby from the Raiders in exchange for two first round picks. One in 2026, the other 14th pick in 2026 and a first round pick in 2027. Crosby, 28, a five time Pro Bowler, will be a game changer for the Ravens. He has 69 and a half sacks since 2019 is more than double that anyone has produced for Baltimore over that span. Namde Matabweek leaves the Ravens with 30 sacks since 2019. Ocho, do you believe this makes the Ravens contenders?

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You know what I want you to look back to. I don't have the stats in front of me when it comes to the Baltimore Ravens defense. Since Lamar has gotten there, they've had some very good defenses. They've had some very good defenses. They've been normally ranked high with the addition of Matt Crosby. He does improve them defensively. Yes, he does. Does it make them contenders? I can't say because I think the onus in them being contenders is really based on what Lamar Jackson does in the postseason. I, I think because they've had great decent defenses before and offensively they sputtered when it mattered most. You know, as. Yes, collectively. Yes, sometimes.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Don't mention that. Let's not, let's not talk about that. Let's. Let's focus on the defense. Okay. I want the chat jumping in there. Talk about we jumping on this right here. Let's talk about the defense. Right. Crosby, a lot of teams were stepping up. You know, you hear first, some, some teams were off in the first and a second, maybe a first or second and another pick, maybe the first this year and the second And a later round pick, but it was the Ravens. And the thing is, like, hold on. We saw Micah with two first rounders and a player.

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Yes.

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Do you want him or don't you?

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Yeah, but Mike is a little bit younger now. Not a little bit. Maybe a lot. A lot.

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Big 26 to 28.

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Okay. I mean, hey, that means a lot. Especially when it comes to business. Especially when it comes to picks. Especially when it comes to money. Oh, you know how the owners think.

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Yes, I do.

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To us. Oh, what's two years? But to them, it's a lot because they think about Miles, wear and tear, all, all the, all this stuff. But Max Crosby brings something that the Ravens need very badly, especially on the defensive end of the ball. And now I feel bad for my quarterback because my quarterback, he has to deal with. Hold on now. Twice a year he got to deal with Miles Garrett. Twice a year he has to deal with T.J. watt.

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Yep.

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Now you bring this animal, one of the better defensive players in the NFL, one of the better defensive ends in the NFL, to the goddamn Ravens. Now he got to deal with. Yeah, like, come on, man. Come on, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I think the thing that I like so much about Max Crosby, that he's a two way player. Yes, please. The run. And he plays the pass. Yes. He kind of reminds me, he doesn't rush the quarterback like this guy does, but I think he played the run better than this guy's done. Jared Allen. Ah. Remember Jared Allen started with Kansas City and then he goes, goes to Minnesota.

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Minnesota. Mr. Calf Rope him. Mr. Calf Rope. I know every sack.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

It kind of, kind of reminds me of him. Right. But he plays the run very well. Better than Allen. But he can't get after the quarterback. Allen. What people don't. Allie, could just flat out get out the quarterback.

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Yeah, yeah. I'm excited. I'm excited for the Ravens. This is, this is going to be good for them. So I, I, I don't know what

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you guys are doing. Help me understand you guys. Okay. You had Trey Hendricks, somebody said, you know what? They tried to make a trade for him last year. You hold on to him.

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Yeah.

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Now you let him go free, say you get nothing.

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Nothing for him. Yeah, yeah.

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What sense does that make, Ocho, if, you know, if you know you're not going to sign it back. Ocho, you gotta let him go.

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Right.

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I've got to trade you and get something for you.

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Yeah, yeah. While there's value there.

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Yes. You let a man walk, you let the man walk. And his value wasn't going to get any higher. He's coming off Back to back. 17 sacks. 17 and a half. 17 and a half sack back to back. He's all pro, so his value is not going to get any higher. You know, you're not about to give this man three, four years at 100 plus million dollars. That's not you. That's not what you guys do. Especially at the age of 30, 31. That's not what you do. Cincinnati. But you let it walk out the door and now you get nothing for it.

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Yeah. That's crazy. That's great. I don't understand. I've been. And I. I don't want to rush the judgment just yet. Draft is coming. Off season acquisitions. You know, trades still are going to be made, so I'm curious to see what moves.

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That ain't what y' all do, Ocho. Y' all what? The last time the Bengals traded.

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Hey, listen. Hey. Number nine put that pressure on. Well, it's not about what we've never done. It's about what we need to do, because number nine already sent that message out loud and clear last year. Loud and clear.

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I know. But I tell you what. You know the Browns, Katie Blackburn as well as anybody. They do what the hell they want to do.

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They do. They do. But also what they never had is they never had a quarterback that's this young who comes from winning. Everywhere he's been, he's done one thing and he's won. And he wants to be sure that winning is the same exact thing that they want to do in Cincinnati.

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No, they want to make.

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You need to continue to make certain moves that. That. That aligns exactly with what Joe Burrow believes in.

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The Bengals want to make money. Yeah.

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Yeah. I think. I think.

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Let me ask. My thing is if I can make money by spending as little as possible, I choose that. Yeah, you got to spend money to be competitive.

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Yeah, you do.

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You just do.

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You do.

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Because guess what? The other teams around you are spending money, and it's already hard to get people. You got to pay to get someone to come to you, Ocho. In free agency, you've got to overpay. Because to get them to leave that situation that they're currently in, where they built up, they built. They're probably ingratiated themselves in the community. The wife is probably there, the kids are there. So things are. You know, you already ingratiate yourself in that surrounding. So to get me to leave that and to uproot my family, you're going to have to Pay a premium. And in free agency, everybody knows you're gonna have to overpay. You just do. That's why. Why you think a beer costs $40 at a damn game? Where else you gonna get it from? You can't run to the local corner store or the package shop and get it.

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Yeah, you're right.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

You want to be able to watch the game. Okay, we'll pay $40.

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Damn.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

So in free agency, these guys know. Well, if you want me to come, you got to pay. Because guess what? If you don't, write down the royal wheel.

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Yeah, absolutely. We need. We need help bad though.

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You do. Over the last five years, OO Baltimore has blown an NFL worth 16 leads in the final five minutes of game. That's five more than any other team. Last season the Ravens failed to hold two double digit leads in the fourth quarter. Remember Buffalo and New England?

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Yes.

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Now one, look, that one against New England with Derrick Henry's running the football and all of a sudden, you know, we gotta. We got a system in place.

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Yeah.

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You know, Derek, it was, it was the other.

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They took him out. Stop handing the ball off to him. I don't know what that was about. Still don't make any sense to me. Makes no sense to me at all.

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But hey, what do we know, Ocho? What do we know? And then lo and behold, they go out there and then they play Green Bay.

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Yeah.

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They just hand the ball to him and he just run wild.

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Went crazy.

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The second leading rusher. Think about this. The second leading rusher.

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Wow.

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When you tried, that's what you do, Ocho. You go double tight and you say, guess what? In the four minute drill, y' all not getting the ball back. All right, D. Hey, this why we got you. And you go put a scat back in there and you got a 250 pound bulldozer. Yeah,

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that nobody hold on. A 50. A 250 pound bulldozer that nobody wants to tackle once. Once he gets those pads going north, man, it's hell to deal with. Don't nobody want none of that.

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It's. I. I don't get it. Like I said, everything is not for me to get chat and I'm sure. But I think the thing is, Chad, I don't think you guys got it either. I don't want to hear nothing because I'm trying to win a game. Sometimes, Ocho, when you're trying to win a game you like. Okay, I know how it was supposed to go. I know it's. You're supposed to be your time up, but your time will come next week. But it ain't gonna come now, right? Could Derek Henry finn to get this ball? That's who's gonna get the ball. And that's what. That's why. That's why we tore his contract up and gave him more. Coming off the first season that he had here, he had over 1900 yards and so. And he came back this year and almost had 1600. So Derrick Henry had plenty of tread on the tire I ain't worried about. Look here, I don't care if you don't play, but another year, I'm gonna run Derrick Henry and he gonna keep the clock moving. Y' all not getting the ball back, Patriots. And if you do get it back, you're gonna have so little time, you ain't gonna be able to do ish with it. So hopefully they don't run into that problem again. But I like the move. I like them. I like this move that the Raven says, look, they're making a commitment to Lamar. They're going to give him big time money. He'll be the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. I don't think they're done.

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No.

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The Ravens, if you go back and study the Ravens, they normally have success when they go get a player. If you look at free agency now, this was a trade. So this might. People chat. You might stay with me. You might look at this a little different, right? But if you go back and study them, 99, they go get what, 90? I think it's 98.99. They're gonna get Michael McCrary and Rod Wilson. In 2000, they go get me and Sam Adams. And then you start, you see, you get Derek Mason, you get Anquan Bowlden, you get Steve Smith. You see what, you see the success that they have when they come, if the Ravens come get you, they've done their homework and they know. And the thing that I love, that I love most about them, be who you are. We don't need you to come here. We already know what we get. Right. Be that you talk ish. Talk ish. If you quiet, stay quiet, all we want you to do is play hard. That's it.

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Yeah. Is it? And you know, everyone, everyone that they've. They've went and got has had success. Everyone they've gotten. And listen, get going to get Max. They're going to have success. He makes Roquan.

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Remember they made the trade for rope for row.

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Yeah, they, they, they. I said they need to impact players. You Got one at each level. Now, obviously, Nate Wiggins, he gonna improve from last year?

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I sure hope so.

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He's gonna improve from last year. I, I, I, I believe in him. I like Young Bull. He, he's nice. You got Roquan, and now you have an impact player on your line. So you got you. Oh, I didn't mention Kyle Hamilton. I didn't mention Kyle Hamilton. The, the best, the best safety in the game right now. So you, you kind of set defensively with, with leaders at each, at, at, at each level.

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Well, if, if, if matabweek can come back and play at the level that we're used to seeing him play at and you got Crosby, I still would like. Hey, hey, I'm gonna boast. I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try to get me a corner. I don't know what's gonna happen with Marlon Humphrey. I don't know if he's aligned for a restructure. I don't know if he's aligned to, like, get released. I don't know what's good. But they need, they need corners. They need corners. And I, I hope you're right. I just hope you're right that Nate Wiggins is going to get better. Yeah. Because all I know, their two corners are top five in yards allowed.

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Well, hell, if you, if you got them having to cover for 20 seconds, shoot me, and you would be in the top five of yards allowed, too, you know, so they, they, they got some help. They got some help because Max, Max don't give. Max got a moat on him, boy.

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Oh, yeah, man.

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Energizer Bunny.

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Oh, yeah. But I think I, I, if, if I'm the Ravens. Look, and I know, look, I know Eric DaCosta is running this, but don't think Isaac still don't have a presence in that building, because he does. But when you look, they need a receiver. They need another receiver.

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I told, I told you who.

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You better go get a right guard, too.

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I told you going there.

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Who?

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Steph. Steph. Gonna end up in Baltimore. Listen, when I. Listen, we was on the show, I don't know, a few, A few episodes ago, I said Max Crosby was coming to the Ravens. Like I'm. Every time I say a player is going somewhere, it happens. I' ma say it here, and people might not like it. Huh?

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A.J.

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brown is going to end up with the New England Patriots. I'm telling you ahead of time.

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I just don't. I look, I, I like Steph, but Ocho, they need more. They don't need another possession receiver. They need a stud. Go get you a stud.

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Hold on, all the studs are taken. No disrespect, all the stuff. What stud can you go and get that's going to come in and, and change everything right away.

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I think I, I think there are some receipt. I think there'll be some receivers available that'll, that'll be. Give them more bang for their buck than Stefan. That's all I'm saying.

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Oh, you know Stefan just coming off a thousand yard season, huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Nah, I don't think he had quite a thousand, but.

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Oh, he had, he had a thousand, huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

He had a thousand.

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Yeah.

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I just don't know. Oo. I just think you could do better.

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Okay. Okay. I'm. I'm just, I'm just think I'm looking at the landscape of what's available. You said a stud. All the studs are number ones. They not available. Who's gonna come in there and, and just instantly.

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85 catches, a thousand 13 yards and four touchdowns. Yeah.

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You know, and you know, over there in New England, it's by committee. Every, every week is a different receiver. You never know who it's gonna be.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Well, I think the thing is, I mean, I think the Patriots are trying to get a first round pick for AJ And I don't know, I don't know if they're going to be able to get that and they're going to probably have to get a settle for a second.

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What you thinking AJ Is worthy of a first round pick on AJ Brown and what he's going to bring to your team and how he's going to help them offensively and what he can do. He can stretch the field when need be. He can run short routes, he can run idiot intermediate routes. He's hell to deal with. You have a great running game. He's worth that first round pick. That's just me. You got that. You got to have a stud. You can't, you can't do it. What you have right now, I, I

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think the thing is that. Okay, where. Who New England? Cause okay, they got. So that'd be. Bro. AJ would be one. And then you got booty booty.

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Matt Collins coming.

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Matt Collins.

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But Douglas, Douglas, that'd be, that'd be a nice little squad, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

How old is A.J.

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oh, that's, that's a good question. I'm not sure.

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Cause you know Ocho, you start purchasing that 30, the price start dropping quick.

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Oh yeah, yeah. They don't, they, they, they don't they don't play about that.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

They don't, man, think about that. They like, man, like, I'm like, damn, 30 guys will play. Guys take better care of themselves now. They're. They're more conditioned guys. I mean, you might have to readjust that. You might have to look at say like 33, 35.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's 28. He's 28.

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28. Okay, well, no, no, he good. Then she.

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Yeah, he good.

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Here's Max Crosby's goodbye to the Raiders.

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Ever since I've been here, man, I've had one goal and one mission that's become the best version of myself and help bring a championship back to the Raider organization.

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And I feel like I left, you

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know, everything I had on the table for this team. I've given my heart and soul, and I feel like I let y' all down, man. Ever since day one, I've wanted to

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create and build a winner with the Raiders.

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I like that, huh? When you think about, when you think about the Las Vegas Raiders, I mean, they are Mac Crosby. Max Crosby is their identity. He has been since he showed up. He always has been. And he said it just right. He left it all out on the field. Everything he has with his play, forget the words that he just said. He showed it with his plate, week in and week out. But again, it's a team game.

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Yes.

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So he can't do it by himself.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

No, he is the perfect Raider. He was the perfect Raider. Al would have loved him. Oh, yeah, he's definitely Al's type of a guy. But they don't have anything. Now it's being reported that they have a hundred plus million dollars in cap space. Oh, yeah, and two first round picks this year. Remember they traded Jacoby Myers, so I don't know what. I mean, what they got from Jacksonville? What they get a third or fourth for Jacoby Myers?

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Okay, I can't remember exactly, but they can make some good moves. Whatever move they. They got to be the right moves, not just any moves they got to. You got it. Got to be franchise changing, altering moves.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah, guys, we know Max wanted out. It's being reported, but everybody talking about, y' all just keep trying to put word. The man said he. What's he supposed to say? But insiders that had spoken to Max Crosby said he said he was done. Yeah, but like, like, oh, he said this, he said that. What is he supposed to say when he's currently still on the roster? The last thing I'm gonna have y' all do is to try to void my contract or to try to get me for conduct detrimental to the team. Of course I'm going to say all the right things.

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Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Privately, I've let it be known I want to be dealt.

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Yeah. I want to change.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I mean and played it perfectly. I've had a conversation with Max. Clearly we want him here. But we want those two first round picks for him though.

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Absolutely.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

So I don't have, I don't have a problem with it. If you want to win now, they could turn the thing around quickly. A lot of Houston Texans. It's not that you have those picks. Who do you select with those picks? Yes. Well, if you get you a C.J. stroud or you get you a Will Anderson Jr. You get you a Nico Collins. You start drafting guys like that, it won't take you long at all. It won't take you long. Now you mess around and get your trey. Lance.

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Yeah. Hey, we know where the first pick is going. They're not trading back out of that. They're not giving that body else it's gonna be me.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

What do they got? So they got 1 and 14.

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Mendoza and I got the next round.

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If there's somebody that you love. Ocho. Hey, you got all those picks, man. Lay get good.

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Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

You need some receivers. He gonna need somebody to throw the ball to. Need somebody to throw the damn ball to.

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Well, you know, you know what I've said. But who I. Who I. Who I want to go to Vegas.

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I don't want to oh op. Yeah, we.

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I don't want to piss off Macau my cowboy fans. You know I love y', all but you know, hey, you know, I have a question. Hey. Hey, Chad. Do you see any scenario right Think about this. I, I, it could be crazy. Could you see any scenario pick going to the Raiders, maybe CD going to the Raiders or just those two not being together in Dallas. Do you see any scenario where that can happen?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

No.

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Chat. What you think?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I think, I think Jerry Love. I think Jerry loves CD. Right.

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Right.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Recommended. He wanted CD. CD wanted one number. DeAndre Hopkins. He wanted 10.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

He was a D Hop fan. It was Jared said. Nah, nah. We really want you to have 88. Right.

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Right.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Because that what that signifies. Drew Pearson and Dance Bryant.

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Yes.

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And now you.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah, I just, I just, you know how this business is. You know how this business is. So I, I've been thinking about that can happen and most of the time they'll pull. They'll, they'll pull the Wool over your eyes and do something strange that it might not make sense to us, but it makes sense to them because they're thinking long term.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Not now.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Oh, Joe. The biggest reaction of the trade came from Jamar Chase. Let's listen to what Chase had to say. Joe, just text me. Ravens traded for Max Crosby. No,

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

no, no, brother. Highly pissed right now.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Oh my God.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Oh my God.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

How the do we let this go to the division, bro? Oh my God. Bro.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Why the did we let this go to the division, bro?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Oh my God.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

And, and his in Jamar Chase's reaction alone lets you know who Crosby is.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Respect he has from other players.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Oh, Joe, you remember on the show at the Super Bowl.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

And he said Jeffrey Simmons and Max Cross Crosby.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

He said if we get both of one of them, give us, let us get one of them. We like both of them, but if we get one of them.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah. It makes a difference.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

I don't know if, if Simmons is available. I don't think so. But you never know. Ocho. Hey, but the question is what y' all willing to give up for it?

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

I mean you're gonna have to, hey,

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

you have to give a first round pick. He wanted he the best get tackle in football.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah. I mean, is that, oh, you think

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

you about to get. What you think you about to get him?

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Comic book and an apple.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

No. Is that him and Chris Jones?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

But you know the, the Titans are building something special over there, so I, I, I doubt he is their identity similar to how Matt Crosby was with the Las Vegas Raiders. The Tennessee Titans. Jeffrey Simmons is the Tennessee Titans. He's that leader, he's that captain, he's that face of that franchise. Even though they have a quarterback that they just drafted in Cam Ward, you know, with the first pick. When you think Tennessee Titans, the first thing you think is Jeffrey Simmons.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

So I just don't see him going anywhere. He said it multiple times, but you never know.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

You don't, you don't. Somebody might make them an offer they can't refuse.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yeah. And that that's the only time it'll happen. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

But you can people just not finish get let you just have their best players.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

No, absolutely.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho)]

You would have to give us some compensation. Draft picks high first rounders.

[Co-host (possibly 'Chat' or 'Ocho')]

Yes.

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