Nightcap Hour 1: VCU TAKES DOWN North Carolina in Round 1 of MARCH MADNESS + Duke SURVIVES SCARE from Siena + AJ Dybantsa & BYU Get BOUNCED by Texas + High Point UPSETS Wisconsin

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1 (March 20, 2026)

March Madness: VCU Upsets UNC, Duke Survives, BYU & AJ Dybantsa Out, High Point Stuns Wisconsin

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Episode Overview

This Nightcap Hour 1 episode of Club Shay Shay, hosted by NFL legend Shannon Sharpe (Uncle Joe), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (Ocho), and NBA All-Star Joe Johnson, dives deep into a historic and chaotic day in the 2026 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament. The hosts share spirited, humorous, and honest takes on the stunning upsets, near-misses, and implications for power programs and NBA prospects, while also reflecting on the culture of college sports and their own fan allegiances.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

VCU's Historic Comeback Stuns North Carolina

• VCU (11-seed) defeats North Carolina (6-seed) 82-78 in OT after erasing a 19-point second-half deficit.
• Sharpe declares it “the sixth biggest comeback in tournament history and the second-largest second half comeback” [08:40].

Critique of UNC's Coaching and Hubert Davis

• Sharpe: “For the third time in the last four seasons, the Tar Heels have failed to reach the round of 32 under Hubert Davis… that's unacceptable for that program, for that institution.” [13:56]
• Ocho and Sharpe accuse Davis of not making crucial defensive adjustments, letting VCU’s Hill Jr. go off repeatedly—“Why would you continuously let him play one on one when he's beating you? …That’s on the coach.” [09:50]
• Joe: Considers if UNC simply lacks the talent depth post-injuries but can't excuse blowing a 19-point lead. [14:16]
• Sharpe compares to the NFL: “If you going off, what did they do? They double you… But I'll be damned if we're gonna let OO play one on one out here.” [15:00]
• Ocho: “When you get a guy who get it going like that, you gotta try to turn his water off. You gotta send two, throw him off rhythm.” [15:33]
• Memorable moment: Sharpe, exasperated, calls for a new era at Carolina: “There's no question in my mind they can get somebody better than Hubert Davis at UNC. That's still a premium program. That's a blue blood.” [13:33]

The Changing College Game: NIL Money & Recruiting

• Extended riff on why blue bloods are struggling: NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) money, transfer portal, and direct pipelines to the NBA now shape power dynamics.
• Sharpe: “It’s a business now. This ain’t like college in the old days. We not going to North Carolina just because Michael Jordan went there. …We trying to get to that bag.” [20:48]
• Discussion of how top talent now gravitates toward Duke, Kentucky, and, increasingly, Arkansas under Coach Calipari, who is “the portal, the segue to the NBA for guards, bro.” [21:08]
• Ocho: “Ain’t really no advantages no more to go to North Carolina… it’s too, too, too much going on. …They stream everything so they ain't gonna miss you.” [25:02]

Duke's Survival Against Siena

• Duke (1-seed) narrowly escapes Siena (16-seed), winning 71-65 after trailing by 13 at halftime.
• UNC-style meltdown averted, but the hosts note: “Duke became the first number one seed to trail by double digits to a 16 seed at the half.” [33:38]
• Ocho: “Duke got lucky today, huh?” [35:18]
• Joe: “If Duke was playing anyone else outside of Siena, they could have lost that game.” [35:24]
• Discussion on Boozer twins, rebounding advantage—Sharpe: “Cameron Boozer… he’s a load on the glass.” [36:19]
• Hosts are skeptical about Duke’s title odds: “I ain’t got them going to the final Four. …That's it.” [37:17/37:24]
• “Survive and advance,” as Sharpe summarizes the classic March mantra. [39:00]

Texas Knocks Out BYU and AJ Dybantsa

• Texas (11-seed) eliminates BYU and star AJ Dybantsa 79-71.
• Sharpe: “Debonza, 35 points, was two points shy of BYU’s tournament record for points in a game… but it wasn’t enough.” [42:36]
• Debate around Dybantsa as NBA No. 1 pick. Sharpe is “not so sure I’m taking him number one overall… too many red flags for Peterson [other top prospect].” [43:24]
• Live speculation over the NBA draft lottery: Ocho: “If Utah Jazz get the number one pick, boy, I know something.” [45:40]
• “We gonna catch him in July in the NBA summer league out in Vegas.” [44:14]

High Point Pulls Huge Upset on Wisconsin

• High Point (12-seed) defeats Wisconsin (5-seed) 83-82, with Chase Johnson’s go-ahead basket in the final seconds.
• Ocho: “High Point… had 40 rebounds… five guys in double figures.” [49:48]
• Sharpe: Notes the bracket carnage: “High Point missed a lot of people. Brackets up.” [50:13]
• Banter about not even knowing High Point’s location before the tournament: “It's in North Carolina. We didn't know where it was.” [47:38]
• Historical context: First Big South NCAA Tournament win since 2018, first to knock out a higher seed since 2007. [50:19]

Arkansas Advances and Looks Ahead

• Arkansas beats Hawaii to set up a matchup vs. High Point.
• Both teams praised for distributing the scoring and playing unselfishly: “We had all five starters in double figures… 26 assists. …we making plays for everybody.” [51:56/52:05]
• Joe stresses defense: “We hang our hat on our defense. …Even though we got young guys at the helm… we value every possession.” [52:26]

Tournament Bracket Showdown – Podcast Crew Rivalry

• Friendly trash talk as hosts compare their picks and bracket scores—Joe is currently in first.
• “We gonna show brackets at the end, but I'm looking pretty good. …I know I'm looking better than y'all, too.” —Sharpe [48:14]
• Mascot-picking jokes and playful accusations: “I ain't worried about O. He picking mascots over there. We good?” [56:18]

Reflections on Criticism, Authenticity, and Sports Media

• Spirited, off-script discussion on the unique chemistry of their show and how “the street committee” (online commenters) often misunderstand or misrepresent their banter.
• Ocho: “It's great entertainment. It's organic. It's authentic. Nothing is scripted. These things are happening… in real time.” [63:12]
• Sharpe: “People are entertained. At the end of the day, people want to be entertained, but they don't want to be entertained while you constantly trying to berate somebody and put somebody down.” [67:28]
• They resist talking about trending tabloid stories, staying focused on sports and fun.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Once you give a team confidence, it’s a wrap. …That’s what happened with VCU. Their confidence is through the roof.” —Ocho [12:53]
• “It’s a business now… We not going to North Carolina just because Michael Jordan went there.… We trying to get to that bag.” —Sharpe [20:48]
• “I just think… I don’t want to hear it. …He had 11 in the first half. …Now he got 16. Now he got big. I was like, bro. And when he got one on one with that big and hit that step back, I said, that's good. I say, it's over.” —Sharpe describing UNC’s collapse [11:54]
• “You might not agree with it, but you understand that. …Gotta see where they coming from.” —Ocho, on outside critique [64:03]
• “We can make things entertaining. We'll take the simplest things and make it very, very entertaining. …People are entertained. At the end of the day, people want to be entertained, but they don't want to be entertained while you constantly trying to berate somebody.” —Sharpe [67:28]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Main March Madness Recap/UNC vs VCU: 08:35 – 19:16
• Duke vs Siena Discussion: 33:38 – 39:00
• Texas vs BYU/AJ Dybantsa NBA Talk: 42:36 – 46:02
• High Point vs Wisconsin Upset: 46:34 – 50:52
• Arkansas & Looking Forward: 51:07 – 52:48
• Tournament Bracket Standings/Trash Talk: 53:28 – 56:18
• Podcast Realness & Media Critique: 61:00 – 68:34

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Summary

This electric tournament night saw North Carolina’s storied program embarrassed by VCU, Duke narrowly avoid history for the wrong reasons, AJ Dybantsa’s college career end in what’s expected to be a top NBA draft entry, and High Point add to March’s folklore. The hosts’ engaging back-and-forth — a mix of analysis, history, and comedic trash talk — makes the chaos all the more entertaining, while providing sharp insight into the new landscape of college basketball and athlete empowerment. Their dynamic, unscripted chemistry delivers authentic sports talk, punctuated by laughter, light-hearted boasts, and real perspective on where college hoops is headed.

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Episode in a Sentence:
A March Madness night full of upsets, bracket breakers, and sharp commentary as Shannon Sharpe, Ocho, and Joe Johnson dissect the drama with wit, candor, and plenty of sports wisdom.

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[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

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[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

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[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

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[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, what kind of straightening we got, Joe?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

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[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

There you go.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

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[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Number 11 seed, the V seek man erased the 19 point deficit to stun the 6th seed of North Carolina Tar Heels by the score of 82.78. In overtime, the Rams pulled off the sixth biggest comeback in tournament history. The second largest second half comeback behind Nevada 22 point rally against Cincinnati in 2018. For the third time in the last four seasons, the Tar Heels have failed to reach the round of 32 under Hubert Davis. Hubert Davis biggest blown lead. He had a 15 point lead his first year at Carolina. Joe and Ocho in the national championship game, he called that up in 2023. He missed it in 2024, number one CD lost in the Sweet 16. 2025 first round loss, 2026 first round loss and the first round loss this year after having a 19 point lead. I hate saying this, Joe, I really do, but after watching what Hubert Davis, I mean they went out early in the ACC tournament, lost Clemson. They lose in the first round of having, after having a 19 point lead and it's continued, It's a continuation. And watch him sit on the sideline and make no adjustments. Yeah, because if you watch Hill Jr. He gets it going. They don't trap him, they don't blitz him, they don't do anything to get the ball out of his hand. And they let him continuously play one on one. That's on the coach. What did, how did, how did VCU get back into this game and ultimately win this game in overtime?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

ISO, I think you know, when they got down, you know, I mean, you can look at it like the last game, you wanna, you know, you want to scratch and cloud. Just stay in the game or get back in the game. Okay, Ocho Jr. Got it going. And honestly this really don't surprise me, Ocho, because North Carolina's best player, Caleb Wilson, he's done for the season. NBA's draft, you know what I mean?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, I would give you that.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

I was his last kid from Atlanta, Georgia.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Which one?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Caleb Wilson.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

So he broke his,

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

he broke. Yeah, he had a, he had a hand injury, then he ended up tearing a thumb ligament. Right?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, for this tournament. So that's why I'm saying that's 20 and 10. You can't, you can't make that up.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, I would concede that to you. I would concede that to you. But guess what? They had a 19 point lead without their 611. Great player. That's going to be a lottery pick. So they build a lead without him. You can't say, well, if they'd have had him because they had a 19 point lead in the second half without him. Go ahead.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey, they clearly couldn't sustain it. I'm saying like bcu, hey, they, they crawled back in their game, bro. It was, it was impressive to watch. But yeah, I mean North Carolina got great contribution from guys to win the game. Obviously they sub team, but without Caleb, man, I just kind of. I ain't even lie to you, uncle. I ain't really been paying attention to the char Hills because I know they ain't gonna go far.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, for me, Joe, is that you see a guy Heating up. That's rule number one. Get the ball out of his hands. Why would you continuously let him play one on one when he's beating you? He's beating you off the dribble. He's getting to his spots, he's hitting the threes, and you still do absolutely nothing to get the ball out of his hands. I can see if we get trap him, Joe and Ocho and other guys start to heat up, then we're gonna have to make adjustments accordingly. And maybe we'll have to play this thing straight up. But to make no adjustment. Hubert Davis made no adjustments. He continues to let Hill Jr play one on one and it got him beat. He had 11 in the first half. So he's like, damn. He. Hey, he. Because he kept a minute in the first half and then when they got down, he got. Now he got 16. Now he got big. I was like, bro. And when he got one on one with that big and hit that step back, I said, that's good. I say, it's over.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey, once you give a team confidence, give them some life, Ocho. It's a wrap. It's a rap. It's hard to turn. It's hard to turn a team down. Once they get rolling, once they get steamrolling. That's what happened with vcu. They confidence is through the roof.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Go ahead, Ocho.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Now I'm gonna say the Tar Heel game, I couldn't get it out here. Where I was in New York, byu, Texas, Kennesaw State and Gonzaga were the two games I was able to watch.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

I wasn't able to see that one based on where I was, based on my location out here.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

But if you look, I mean, a 19 point lead.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Joe Ocho as a six seed.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Like I said, and I don't advocate, but I just think I. I just. There's no question in my mind they can get somebody better than Hubert Davis at unc. That's still a premium program. That's a blue blood.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

It's like somebody going to Oklahoma. That's like somebody going to Ohio State. That's like Alabama. That's Michigan. That's usc. That is a pre Jord. That is a premium program.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

And for. And for them to be floundering around and losing in the sweet 16, not even getting to this. Not even getting to the sweet 16, not even making out of the round of 32, that's unacceptable. For that. Yeah. For that program, for that institution. That is unacceptable.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah. Because it's too. They Too prestige.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

They not gonna.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

They not gonna let that continue to go on.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, hey. Joe and Uncle, Listen, as prestigious as they are, the history that North Carolina has, and you saying him not making adjustments necessary in game. What if he doesn't have the players to make those adjustments? Even though you're up 19? What if he understands that if I make adjustments, it's gonna. It's gonna put my players in certain spots with them being exposed based on who we're playing?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You got up 19.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You got up 19.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hold on.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

So how did you do that?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hold on. Stay with me real quick.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yes, I'm here. Hold on.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

You got up 19 early in the game, right, Joe?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

No, it was in the second half.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Okay, okay. In the second half. So when the other team, the opposing team makes certain adjustments that you need to based on, so you can't go up 19, and they find a way to crawl their way back into the game.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Then what do you do?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You make. You get the ball out of the hot guy's hand. It's just like a receiver. If you going off, what did they do? They double you. They're gonna make. We're gonna make you throw the ball to Chris Henry, rest his soul. We're gonna make you throw the ball to TJ Hoosh Manzada. We're gonna make you check it down. But I'll be damned if we're gonna let OO play one on one out here. He's already got a buck 50, and we're not trying to let him get 250. That's what you do. It's simple, right? The hot man basketball. Joe, you see this all the. Joe, you know this better than anybody. Cause you played the game at an elite level. A hot guy, they coming with the trap.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, they come in, they gotta get

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

the ball out of your hands.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree with you. When. When you get a guy who get it going like that, you gotta try to turn his water off. You gotta send two. Throwing my real. Throw him off rhythm, you know, make him give it up a few possessions, then let him get. Yes, but, yeah, I agree with you. They didn't make no adjustments. And this is what you get. You know, when we out there competing, bro, it's hard for cats to really be like, hey, man, come on, switch. Let me get him for a minute. You know what I mean? He tying you up.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I don't want to hit it.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey, that pride kick in. He just scold a few. He like, damn. Then I got him. I got Him I at.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

And we saw this tonight with Luca. They let Luca play one on one. I don't know what Spo was thinking. You just saw your guy score 83 less than a week ago.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

So you mean to tell me you gonna let l play one on one? All he was doing is calling for the high pick. Okay? He go, hey, he get a. What's the one they got? They just got from the Clippers. They traded from the Clippers. I forget it. Norman Po.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah,

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I mean, step back after step back after step back.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

When he go to making that. When he tell you when he making that, bro, I'm talking about as deep as he shoot. He can shoot it with a hand in his face, man. 60 points, bro.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

60. Look, look, look.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

What a game at fellas. Look at the score. And that's why, you know, this what people want to see, they want to see these dudes put up these type numbers, man.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

60. But I, I, I just. It's gonna be considering Ocho and Joe.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Considering who North Carolina is. It's going to be hard for Hubert Davis to go in there and convince the alumni, the boosters and the president that he should remain in this role given. Bro, look at these. Come on, man. That's. That's Carolina. That's Carolina. That's Coach Smith.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

That's Roy Best play out.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You had a 19 point ocho, that's like not there. You got a 24 point lead. And then how do you go to the media and say, well, we couldn't. Well, you know, we was missing Carson. Well, you didn't have Carson when you built the 24 point lead.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

So what'd you do? So what, so what happened? Yeah, so you can't. If, if you, if you lose this game, if you're, if it's nip and tuck, I can give you that. If you get blown out, I can give you. We don't have our best player. But you didn't have your best player and you built a 19 point lead.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

So now you can't use we didn't have our best player argument. The reason why you lost the game. You lost the game because when one team made the adjustments to cool you off, you didn't make the adjustments to get cool their best player off.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

There has to be like, okay, a chance when you play. A chance. Okay, you got moves, but you got. Okay, if you see where he's going. You got the counter moves. You got the counter. You just can't keep going the same course of action. And that's what Hubert Davis did. He didn't make any adjustments. He rarely make any adjustments.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, I, I wonder, I wonder what his recruiting class looks like. I think that that'll probably determine a lot too. You know what I'm saying? If do do is he, does he have any top guys who've committed to North Carolina more?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Most. More times than not the one and dones, they go into Duke first and foremost. Now you see Cal, you see Cal getting a bunch of them out of Arkansas, where it was basically Duke and Carol, Duke and Kentucky for all the one and done. Yeah, they were getting all the one and done. So if there were 12 one and dones, those two teams had 10 of them.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Kansas might have got one and then somebody else got arbitrarily happy.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, right.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

You know what he need though?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Huh?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Huh?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

What's that?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Instead of finding Joe, he needs to go to the boosters, go to whoever's in positions of power. I need a little bit more money to get the players we need to, to be able to compete in these tournaments.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

That's why.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

But here's the thing. Ocho and Joe, do you believe he can get you ready for the NFL? Because when they go to Ohio State, what does the track record show? Those receivers go to the NFL. Those D linemen go to the NFL. Those offensive linemen go to the NFL. Those linebackers go to the NFL. When you go to Bama, so you go into some arbitrary school. Can he get me ready to go play in the NFL? Can they get me go ready to go play in the NBA? Because that's all I'm stopping off. Yeah, I'm going to class the first semester after, after Christmas. I ain't going back to class no more.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. You know what? Too, we know it's funny too think about it too. You look at some of these players that go to the Alabamas, especially when it comes to football. When they go to the Alabamas, they go to the Ohio States. They already prepped and NFL ready. It's just going to the right institution.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Fine tune all the other things and attributes that you need to be able to get to that next level. North Carolina is that type of program. All it is is about how do I attract the players that can be NBA ready or, or that that are can, can be prepped for the NBA. How do I get them to come here? If we understand how college is now with the nil money, hell, what's the one way to get them? You got to pay Them you got

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

to pay to play you, you seem

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

to win it now, whether it's college, I mean, whether it's, whether it's football or basketball, it. Money talks. This is the business now. This ain't like college in the old days. We not going to North Carolina just because Michael Jordan went there.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Just because some of the other prestige players that, that played the NBA went there. No, we trying to get to that bag.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey, listen, go ahead. I think even when you look at Coach Kyle's situation, Uncle Ocho at the University of Arkansas, you know, he catered, he catered to the players. He let you know, man, I'm only playing. I'm only playing seven guys. I'm only playing seven guys. Uncle Ocho, he'll tell him that. Yeah, that's what he telling them. Yeah, he telling them I'm only playing seven guys. This is how it's gonna go. So you got, you know, you got a real understanding. You respect a coach, man, who can be straightforward with you like that, you know what I mean? And he's like the portal. He's like the segue to the NBA for guards, bro. He got, he got. I mean, he gonna have two guards go to the league this year.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah. I think the thing is, Ocho, is that if you look at Carolina's history, they haven't had a whole lot. They haven't basically, since Roy left, they haven't had that cavalcade of guys going to the NBA. They've been Duke because you see the Brandon Ingrams, you see the Jason Tatums, you see the Zion Williamson, you see the Cooper flag, the Con Canoples, you see the Jalen Johnson's, you see boom, boom, boom. Well, that's where I'm going. You saw this with Alabama, you see this with Ohio State, that's where I'm going. We understand what used to be Oklahoma doesn't get the same level of player that they once did. Yeah. USC doesn't get the same level of player they once did. So in my process, I'm thinking, okay, Joe, if Ocho, I can get a million dollars to go here, or let's just say 500,000. I get 500,000 to go here, I get 500,000 to go to Duke, or I can get 600,000 to go to North Carolina, where am I going?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Duke.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Exactly.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

So unless the money is just astronomical. Yeah. Now you talking about, okay, 500, 000 versus a million, that's for something. But a hundred thousand dollars and I know what Duke's track Record is Zion Williamson, number one overall draft pick, Brandon Ingram, number two pick, Jason Tatum, number three pick, Cooper Flag, number one overall. Conking up top, top six, top five, top six. I see Jalen Johnson. I see all these guys year after year after year after year. I see R.J. barrett. I see Cam Reddish. Nah, bro, I'm good. I'm just being honest.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Look what you just said, right? So with you understanding that, right, you still want to give coach a little grace and understanding that I'm not getting the players, I need to be able to compete because all everybody going to other places because the money is better.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

He can't attract them. See, he can't attract them. That's a problem in and of itself, too.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yes, sir.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I don't care what type of club gotta be relatable to these. If. If you want the high rollers to come, what you gotta have.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Ocho, they got to have that money, boy.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You gotta have them things. You gotta have. You gotta have them. When you go to the club. When you go to the club, they got about 30 little things standing right out there, right? And they usher them right on in.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yes, sir.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Cause those, when the guys see those, they gonna go in there with a bottle service. That's how it works. So you have to have something to attract them. You're not catching a lion or a tiger with an empty trap. You better throw a carcass in there, a zebra Elon beef or something. Something. You got to attract him with something. Hey, and I'm not so sure. North Carolina, just the Tar Heel and the Jumpman brand. I'm not so sure that's enough anymore, guys.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, they gotta call Joe. They gotta call Mike. Mike, we need to open up a little bit more.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Nah, it's the, the playing field too, even now, you know?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Ain't really no advantages no more to go to North Carolina.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Nope.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

You know what I mean? Like, you know, if you good, if you, if you good, they gonna find you, partner.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Nowadays, it's too many. It's too, too, too much going on. It's too many ways to be visible in the way the streaming thing is going. They stream everything so they ain't gonna miss you.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You. You remember Alabama? Remember how Alabama had had that thing on the chokehold for about 10, 15 years?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

The receivers and running backs?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Back to back, Back to back. Matter of fact. The funny part to me is I'm confused. Why do players, especially if you look at the, the, the. The production that came out of Alabama, they had no problem sitting by sitting behind each other, waiting. They turn, they could have been anywhere. They was going to find you regardless.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

When you got Mark Ingram, you got Derrick Henry, you got Alvin Kamara, you got a Drake. Kenyan Drake. T.J. yelding.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

And you just pumping them out. Yeah, you got to go. Because if you don't go to the NFL, you might be on the bench. That ain't gonna look good. Nah, that's not gonna look good. Hey, your freshman, you rush for 900 yards. Your sophomore year, you a backup.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

So you got to go.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Those wide receivers, you get Julio and you get Ridley and you get Amari Cooper. Because here come Jerry Judy. Here come Jalen Waddle. Here come. Hey, here come Henry Ruggs. Here come Devonte Smith. They coming. You got J. Mo. They coming. You got to leave. Yeah, it ain't that. It ain't that complicated. Yeah, you got to leave. Same thing with the DVs. Look at those DBs. They pumping them out. Certain Arnold Minka.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yeah, they have some good ones.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Boy, McKinney, it's a new day.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I'm done with North Carolina. I'm gonna find me a new team.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Oh, that was your squad?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Oh, man.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Are you.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Oh. Where you from?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You were from Georgia.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

How is.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

How is North Carolina your squad if you're from Georgia? You are. You just.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

I don't know,

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

just go way back. I first came acquainted with North Carolina. North Carolina came on my radar in 1981. They lost the national championship game to Indiana in Isaiah. That was the same night that President. The assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan's life. Okay. They lost Isaiah, Randy Whitman, Rolando Turner. Yeah. They had James Worthy. They had Jimmy Black. They lost the next year. Guess who comes in the next year. Guy with his tongue hanging out.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Jordan.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yes. And guess who they play for the national championship? Georgetown and Patrick.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Georgetown. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

So we. We go back 40 plus. I go back 40 plus years with them.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hold on. I got another question. Okay. Yeah, I'm glad you said that. So you became a North Carolina fan? Yeah, once when they lost to Isaiah. Them then.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Jordan came in the following year because Jordan was there. Okay. Now I'm a fan of North Carolina.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

So that means you're a fan of Jordan.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, I like Jordan.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yes. Okay. Okay. So who's the greatest NBA player of all time?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

LeBron. Two things can be true. I can like Jordan, but he's Jordan. But LeBron is a better player.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

It's subjective. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah. But, yeah, we go back. Yeah. When Kenny Smith. And they had Sam Perkins.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Kenny Smith, James Worth.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah. The Jet. He went to North Carolina. He was on the team with. Not on that national championship team. Right. He was on the team with. With a. The year. Two years after. Two years after.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Now they had a squad. Now they had a squad. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Oh, when they had Rasheed Wallace and Stackhouse and J R Reed.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Oh, they were. That used to be loaded.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey. When they had Vince Carter and Antoine Jameson over there too, now.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yes. Yes. Well, you know, Coach Smith coached him and then he turned them over to Coach Guthrie.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Remember. Cause he didn't want to leave the cupboards. Bear.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey, them boy was a show.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah. You a MJ fan? I've been an MJ fan.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yeah. I was just curious. I thought I had you. I thought I had you in the corner real quick.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Nah, nah, nah.

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[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Number one, number one overall seed Duke survived number 16, Sienna by rallying. They were down 13 at the half, but they come back to win by 6. 71 65. The top seeded Blue Devils needed a late rally to overcome a double digit deficit. Duke became the first number one seed to trail by double digits 11 to a 16 seed at the half. Duke is the eighth number one seed in NCAA tournament history to win by six or fewer points against the 16 seed. The three of the SEP. Three of the previous seven lost their next game. The only one to went on to reach the final four, Georgetown, one by one, lost in the elite eight in 89. Was that the Princeton game? I think that might have been the Princeton game. Oklahoma 89. They won by one, lost in Sweet 16. Purdue, Michigan State, Michigan, Duke in 26. Gonzaga and Illinois. Oh, Illinois. That's when they had what you call them. That was that. That was the Ken. That was Kendall Gill and Nick Anderson there.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Who is this?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, hold on.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Illinois in 1989. I think Kendall Gill and Nick at night was on that team.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Play for the supersonics, huh?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Huh?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Kendall Gill played for the supersonics?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I think. I think so.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

I don't remember if he did. I remember. I remember him playing for the mistaken.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

If I'm not mistaken. I think that was the 89 team. Wasn't that Lou Henson? Yeah. Marcus Liberty. Yeah. Mr. Basketball and.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, Duke got lucky. Duke got lucky today, huh?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, Joe, if Duke was playing any. Anyone else outside of Sienna, they could have lost that game.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

They could have lost to Sienna. See this?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

I mean they could have. But them goddamn boozle boys is hell to deal with, right?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Evans was balling too. Yeah, yeah, but a better team, Joe, a better team outside of Sienna, they win this game. Especially being up double double points.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Well, the thing is. The thing is Duke, they starting point guard went down. I forgot his name, but he didn't.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

He.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

He ain't been playing. I think he. Out. Out. And when you got two freshmen in your lineup, obviously they brothers, they twin brothers. They both played well tonight, Uncle Ocho. The boozle boys, they both played well to get them boys over the hump. But if it wasn't for that because it was looking shaky. I seen them down 10. I said, hold up.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, they watched him on the glass, though. They. They were plus 12 on the glass.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Cameron Boozer, you know, he had 22, but he hadn't been shooting the ball. He got his. Most of his points at the free throw line, but he's a load on the glass.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah, we're gonna blow.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You gotta. You got. You got to keep him off the glass now.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, you gotta keep him off the glass. You gotta make him work, too. You can't just let him walk down there and just stand right there on the box. Like I say, you gotta start bumping and grinding from the three point line. As soon as he crosses half court. Ocho, I'm hitting him with that should. I'm catching him right at the free throw line all the way down to the block. I got to weigh you down.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah. You can't let him walk you down, though, Joe.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Nah, you can't. You can't, bro. Hey, I'm gonna tell y' all something. Any of these guys who can put the ball in the basket, these scores, especially in college, because I. When I'm watching, I'm looking how they playing defense. Obviously, when you get into, you know, the NBA, defense is a lot different, man. Guys really know how to play. They know how to bump, grind. The little nuances of the game. They can get. They can get away with. But I don't know how far Duke can go, man. They didn't. They didn't really impress me today.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I ain't got them going to the final Four. I know that. I think I got him winning maybe one more game.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, that's it.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

That's it.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

It's just hard playing on that neutral site, bro. Like, you ain't really no advantage, Ojo. Yeah, that's why.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hold on. Duke travel well now.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

It'll feel like a home game even though you're not playing, you know, at home.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Oh, yeah. Look, all these. All the, you know, your Dukes and your Carolinas, teams like that, that are. That are basketball power. They're gonna travel just. Just like Ohio State and Alabama, your football powers, they're going to travel. Georgia, they're going to travel. They're going to travel.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

This is. Hey, and they.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

They number one for a long, long time.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah. And they rank. They ranked number one, so they are number one overall. Yeah, number one overall. See? So, yeah, you know they gonna travel.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

And you know, Coach K, I mean, Duke is synonymous with Coach K. He was there for such a long time. I remember the first time, the first night when he played for the national championship in 86. And they lost the Purvis Leslie when they had Tommy American and Johnny Dawkins, Jay Billis.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

And they lost the. They lost the purvis them in 86. Louisville. But. And he just been getting. He just been getting players.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Grand Hill, Thomas Hill, Christian Lake, the Cherokee park trade. Your lab is just on and on and on and on and on.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Go ahead.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You want to say something?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

No, no, I'm listening. I'm listening.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

But. But do a. What did they say? What's the thing? Survive in advance.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

That's what you got to do.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

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[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

number 11 Texas gets past AJ Debonza and the BYU Cougars 7971 AJ Debonza played every minute of the game, but it wasn't enough as BYU has its season and his probably his college Career come to an end. Debonza, 35 points, was two points shy of time by use. Tournament record for points in the game held by Danny Ainge and Jimmer for Debt Matias. I don't even know how to say his last name, but he had 23 and 16 for the Texas Longhorns in 33 minutes. He was 10 or 17, man, he could have had. He was 311 for the free throw line. Who was that? But AJ did. AJ things he. You know, I'm not so sure. I'm not taking him number one overall. I think there's too many for me. Just for me now.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Somebody else might feel differently. I think there's too many red flags for Peterson.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

You. So you saying you taking A.J. warren playing?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I'm taking A.J. debonzo. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Okay. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

What's the red flag with Peterson? What? Him taking himself out the game, not being available.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

I mean, hold on. But, but when you look. When you look at upside, though, as far as make it to the next level, who can come in? Both. Both can come in and make a difference right now,

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

I think.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I mean, I can't. I can't teach 6, 7, 6, 8, 6, 9.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

That boy said okay.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I can't. I can't teach that. Okay, though.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yeah, he. He. He played well. He played well tonight. Shoot. Texas did everything they could. Goddamn. Every time he got the ball, they trapped him. They trapped him right away. Sometime he had to get. He had to get it. He had to get the ball up off of him.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey. Yeah. Hey. That was it. That was his last game.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Fell there, Joe.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

We. We gonna catch him. We gonna catch him in July in the NBA summer league out in Vegas.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

We catch him in summer league. Come on out here. We catch him in the summer league.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

That's the next time y' all gonna see that boy playing, you hear me?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Who got the first pick, Joe?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

We don't know yet.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

We don't know yet, but I'm gonna just be honest with you. It's a lot of guys who can still improve their draft stock. Yeah. But for the number one pick, I'm almost willing to bet whoever, whatever, whoever team get the number one pick, they picking AJ first.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I agree with you.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

I think that. Listen, and I think the people know, man. I know they do everything with the little, what you call it, the ping pong ball.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

The ping pong balls.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

You think they cheating now?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

I'm not gonna say they cheating. You know what I'm saying? You know how they do.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey, well, listen, check this out. I'm gonna be skeptical if Utah get the number one pick. I'm gonna be skeptical because I'm like, hold on. They kept. They didn't kept AJ In. In Utah for the past two, three years?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Hey, let me think about it. He ain't go to Duke. He went to. He went to byu. Yeah, he went to byu.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Oh, don't they. Hey, there's a reason why Utah said they started and the guys ain't playing. The guys having surgery out for the rest of the year. The NBA don't find them a half a million dollars for pulling that bull job. Hey, they trying to increase the ping pong balls.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

If they get. If Utah Jazz get the number one pick, boy, I know something.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, they gonna get it.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You know what? It should be everybody to keep y' all from doing this bull job. Everybody get one ball, one ping pong ball. And we pull it out. We pull it out.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey, the killer part is if OKC mess around, get the number one pick.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Oh, Lord have mercy. They don't necessarily need it, but they could. Hey, they can secure the future for a long time. They must write a. I don't even know. I don't even know what they would. Who would that trade?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

And they got. They got.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

They got chat. They got Hardenstein.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

They so. They so lucky right now.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

They so deep. They guard heavy.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Oh, man, I don't know. I just be thinking different scenarios. I'm like, man, listen,

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

man.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

The number 12 High Point stuns 5th C, Wisconsin 83, 82. Chase Johnson made a two point basket of the season on the fast break layoff. Up with 11.7 seconds remaining, Johnson finished with 14 points, including four three pointers for the Panthers, who were 10 and a half point underdogs. He came in shooting 64, 132, 48 and a half percent from the three point line, but was owing four inside the arc and he had to play more minutes 406 than more points without making a two point shot than any other player in the country. Man,

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

I tell y', all.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Wisconsin.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, how high point. We're bowling, huh?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

I tell y' all what. Yeah, high point was.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

One of y' all had. Ocho had High point. I think he just look at that mascot.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

I told you.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, what I was doing.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

He just look at that mascot.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, no, I know. Hey, Ross seen Rob Martin play. Yeah, that. That maybe I seen, right?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You don't even know what high point is, huh? You don't even know what high point is.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

It's insane. Wait, I don't know. You know, I don't know where it's at.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

It's in North Carolina. We didn't know where it was. Yeah. Hey, it used to be known as the Furniture Capital World.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, I bet you. I bet your bracket all messed up now.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

We didn't pick nobody pick High Point.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yes, man, nobody.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

But I know who picked St. Louis to beat Georgia.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Who?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Did you really edit up the ass, Ash?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You ask a hater, man. Man, you have somebody work for you

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

to be hate what your bracket look like now?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

I don't know. I gotta take a look at it. I gotta take a look at it. But I didn't. I wouldn't.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

We gonna show brackets at the end, but I'm looking pretty good. I know I'm looking better than y', all, too.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

No, no, no, no, no, no. My bracket's still intact.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Your bracket is intact.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey, look, while you talking about High Point, that's who we got next. That's who the Razorbacks got next.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Y' all in trouble, Joe.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

What you mean we're in trouble?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yeah, y' all in trouble, Joe.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey, Ocho, you remember them blinders you talking about?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yes, sir.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey, hey, tunnel vision, baby.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

We focus. You hear me?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Listen, I know y' all focus, Joe, but who gonna deal with Rob Martin?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Joe, man, listen. Hey, look, we ain't worried about that.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

I'm just saying they got something for acuff.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

What they got? Ain't nobody had the recipe. Tell me what it is.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yeah, I mean, they got the recipe, man, please. Okay.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

We.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey, We. We. We. We fast, athletic.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

We.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Cause Ruckus put you in. Put you in uncomfortable situations, uncle. Oo, we. You know, we. We playing good ball. Man, them dudes look good out there. Boy, my Razorbacks look focused.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Why you High Point? I mean, look, I know where High Point is. As a matter of fact, Burn son went to High Point. I think it's like a. Like a. A designer school.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You know. Yeah, for like, interior design and things like that.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, hey, guess who they go design on?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

It's kind of like in the high point of, like, a artsy school.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey, I know they had some boys eating their glass.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, they had 40 rebounds at 30. They didn't get to beat that bad on the glass. They just, you know, Wisconsin didn't put them away when they had a chance to. Had 22. I mean, 27. Blackwell had 22. Rap had 12. But High Point had five guys and double figures.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, we locked in But I know

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

High Point missed a lot of people. Brackets up.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Oh, I know they did that. Of course they did.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Who? Oh, his high school was High Point. He from North Carolina? No, he went to Kentucky. High Point is the first Big south team to win an NCAA tournament game since 2018, first four, when Radford defeated Long Island. The Panthers are also the first Big south team to defeat a higher seed since the number 11 went through. Corp. Defeated number five, Notre Dame in the round of 64 in 2007. Yeah, I've been in that High Point.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey, really?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, it was called.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

I don't.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I don't know. I don't know. I think somebody told me that. It's not that anymore, but it used to be called the furniture capital of the world because all the big furniture, you can just go there and you get it at wholesale, whatever you want.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yep. Anybody? Anybody from North High Point? Is it still called a furniture capital or has a. Has the. The. The crisis. The housing crisis? Did that destroy. Still is. Okay. Darius Acuff scores 24 of the Arkansas breezes past Hawaii 97. 78. There's Acuff, Jr. Had 24 points and seven assists. Arkansas moves on to face number 12, high point in the second round of the West Regional.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Nah, I mean. Hey, Ocho, look, we had all. All five starters in double figures today.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yes, sir.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

That means we playing great basketball. Hear me?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

You know, High Point had five starters. I mean, four. Four starters in double figures and somebody off the bench in double figures.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

That mean. Look, we had 20. We had 26 assists. That mean we. That mean we making plays for everybody.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You feel me?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We gonna be hard to guard, too. I don't know what you talking about. You talking about them? What about us?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Y' all nice. Y' all been nice all year.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Joe, what'd you say?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Y' all gonna have to shoot that three ball better. Y' all was four and 19 from the three.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what. See what it is. See, we hang our hat on our defense. Our defense, you know, it puts our offense in overdrive. You feel what I'm saying? Because we get turnovers, we get stops. And offensively, even though we got young guys at the helm at the point guard spot, we don't turn the ball over, bro. We value every possession. We understand the moment, man.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Dude.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey, they ready. We locked in. All right.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

City locked in.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Ocho, it sound good. Hey, win that game when they play

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Saturday.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Saturday. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Okay. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yeah. I'm gonna See you on the show, Joe.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Saturday.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You know who's from High Point? Oh, Fantasia.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Oh, I know. She grew up in a good church over there. Boy, I don't know about the church,

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

but I just know she's. My point. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

I mean, I'm just saying. Hey, to sing like that.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Her and Jasmine Sullivan.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yes, sir.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

All right, let's check the brackets. Let's check the brackets.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Let me see.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

We forgot a game.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You heard me, huh? What?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

We forgot, man, we got the Kennesaw State game.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Tell us about it. Go ahead. So who's on? Oh, okay, okay, okay. That's. My bracket's on the top, so let's go.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hold.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

We go get. I had Duke, Louisville, Michigan State, Vanderbilt, Nebraska, Carolina. You. Sorry. Houston. And I had Illinois. I had Arkansas, Gonzaga, Michigan, St. Louis. Next one is Ocho. Yeah, Ocho. Ocho had Duke, Louisville, Michigan, State, State. He won with Nebraska. He won with Illinois. He won with Texas A M. And with Houston. He won with St. Louis, Michigan and Arkansas.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Joe, what we got? I'm winning.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I don't know, Joe. No, you're not.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Ojo. Why you laughing so hard?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You and I though, Joe. You had Duke, you had Louisville, you had Michigan State, you had Vanderbilt, you had Nebraska, Alaska, you had A M. You had Houston. Yeah. You had BYU going a long way. Joe, dinner. Yeah, you did.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Damn.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Arkansas, Gonzaga, St. Louis and Michigan. So you had 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. You had 12 wins. Oh, Joe. Ocho had 1, 2, 3, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 wins. And I had 1, 2, 3, Four, five, six, seven, Eight, nine, 10, 11 wins. Oh, I'm winning right now. Joe is in first place with 12 wins. I got 11. Ocho half.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Don't worry about it. Hey, Chad, There you go.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Can I talk to Jack?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Chat, chat, chat.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Hey, listen. Hey, the man don't play by me, okay? Huh? I'm locked in on these boys, man. These boy can't beat me at nothing. I'm locked in, Joe.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

That's the first round.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

First we got. We got a long way to go, Joe.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

I really was talking to Chad. You and OO just happened to be on here. I'm talking to Chad. Me and Chad having a conversation. Y' all just so happened to be on here. But like I said, baby, you.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

There you go.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

I had.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Man.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, hey. North North Carolina mess you up, hunk?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

No, I. I had him. I had him to win. But then I'm having. Had him lose the next round to Illinois.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

I ain't worried about OO he picking mascots over there. We good?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

OO you got North Carolina. You got North Carolina to beat. Had Illinois got them going on pass ass.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

My bad. I was just going up, you know, Prestigious school known for basketball, you know, making it foreign tournaments, you know? I mean, listen.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, we know you pick the mascots.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

My bad.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Okay. Ocho, you want to tell us about the Gonzaga game? Hold on.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe. Hey. Listen to my basketball prowess.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Let me see what you got. Let me hear. Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Let me know when you're ready.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Go ahead. I'm listening.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Oh. So listen, the. The. The Zags. The Zags Owls game, it was good. Obviously, Kennesaw State being a team that's not as good as the Zags. Right, Joe? I mean, like.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Right?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

You understand what I'm talking about? So every possession matters, every offensive play matters. You know, you. When you choose to shoot the ball, shot selection matters. Moving the ball around, keeping everybody moving. Finding the right plays, finding the right shots.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Shots.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Boom. You win in the game. Yeah, you was winning the game. But obviously, the better team, the Zags, you know, they. They came back and won. But what. What I want to say is, right, the thing is, I can't remember the. The big center. I think his name. His last name was Ike Eke. Ike. I K E for Kennesaw, for the Zag.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Boy, he was here to deal with down in that block. Yeah, yeah. They was fighting. We're trying to find him. They were swinging the ball and finding when he could. He had his way down there. They had a young bull on his ass, too. He kept hitting the goddamn three. He was number four.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, it came off the bench. He came off the bench getting money.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

He getting money at the arc, and he putting that ball on the floor, getting to a spot every time.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, I know. I don't think I got Gonzaga going far. I know they always discipline Uncle Ocho when they play. You know, they gonna play a. A good, disciplined game, but, you know, I don't think I got them going that far.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, that's not fair, man.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Too, man, you know, Kennesaw State. That's Joe. That's. That's us.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

That's making right now.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Put that up there.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Well, let me see. Oh, King ice. Hey, listen, man. Hey, look, hey, look. Hey, let me tell you. Let me tell you, Ocho something, man. We coming up on the year, us hanging out, you know, it's gonna. April, gonna give us A year. And, and until the other day, we had been on the, you know, everything had been on the up and up.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

We had all been all good.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

You know what I mean?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean, Joe.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

It's just when I, when somebody tried me, I understand. I, I, you know, I gotta put the smackdown. I gotta put out a mean demonstration. And I hate for you for it to even go that way. I, I really do.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Hey, I really do.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, you know what? You, you. Hey, Joe, you ever grew up with siblings?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Nope.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

You ever grew uncle, you grew up with siblings, huh?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Man, you know, I got a brother and a sister.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Okay, So y', all, y', all, y' all get into it sometime. Y' all go through a little quarrel sometime, huh?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Man, look at it, man. They got, they got all kind of stuff up there with you.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Look at this one.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey, Ocho. Ocho, I understand where you coming from. We just having a little rip, but we gonna, we gonna go and get our little fade out the way we still love each other, but we gotta get that fade.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yo, listen, listen, Joe. I love you like a brother, Joe. I love you like a brother. You know? You feel me? I love you like you're my son.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

You gonna get this work, though.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Hey, why?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Why? I'm getting hit.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

That's what's gonna happen. Hell you talking about?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

What you think, what you thought was gonna happen?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

It ain't gonna happen like that. I. I ain't got. Listen, I got discipline in that ring. My hand definitely ain't going to be down like that.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

I got discipline, too, bro. That's the thing.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

So, man, they got, they got Joe. They got Joe with a row. Atlanta Hawk Roll, Big Street Joe Johnson. Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, look at this one. They got a oo, Man, they got PO. They call it poo Poo.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, hey, Joe. You finna feel my rad, Joe? Are you gonna feel my rap, man?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Joe. I think, I think. I think Joe the hired got his own personal graphics team.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey, that's the perfect picture he need too here for me.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, Joe. Listen, Joe, I don't lie or anything I say is from is life experience. It's things that I've experienced in life, Joe.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah. I got you. I got you, bro. I got you.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

I love you. I love you like a brother. But you're gonna feel like you're fighting two people when you get in there with me, though. I can tell you.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

That's funny.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

I don't like the people on the outside. They Take everything so serious.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Like people bad looking.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

We family. What are y'?

[Movie Trailer Narrator]

All?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Yeah, they writing think pieces and they writing a thing.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Oh, they, they.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Oh, but, Ocho, you got off easy. They had me on the Shade room. They had me on the Jasmine brand. They had me on everything. Love his kids. He don't love his family. Now I see why he's single. I said, I have no problem. I just said, oh, Joe. Should have gave Joe a heads up. But then, then it came out, what actually happened. The hate rules. Ain't nobody put nothing up there. Ain't nobody said nothing. I said, well, damn. Hey, you. So I'm trying to figure out y' all deduced. I hate my kids. I think I did a prophetic. Me and the mom did a pretty good job. We got three college graduates. Last one is in resident, got another year of residency. She'll be a full. A real doctor. I thought we did a pretty good job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love our kids. I hate my kids. I don't like my family.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Family.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I see why he's single. And everybody that probably said that. Single just like me. That makes it. Oh, Joe. They make it seem like me and you the only ones that ain't married. Everybody else, Everybody else that be in the chat, being married,

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

80 people. People. Hey, people. People in the chat, they going through the same problems we go through.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Of course.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Name everything. I don't know why everybody be trying to act like they all perfect.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

And they do.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

We just happen to live ours in front of everybody else.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

That's. That's it. Bad Ocho. Ocho bed. I was like, bro, y' all take this way too serious. Yeah, it ain't that serious. Not.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

It's not.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

But I, I, you know what?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

But hey, you know. You know what it is, though.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Go ahead, Ojo, what is it?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, Uncle Joe, what was that? What it is. It's great. It's great entertainment. It's organic. It's authentic. It's authentic. Nothing is scripted. These things are happening. They're recurring in real time.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

You know, that situation, it was real.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, it was real.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

But we get on here, we talk about it. We jib. We jab at it. You know, you. You get on me.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

I accept accountability. It's a real situation. But then we keep going. But we do it in an entertaining format.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Right, Right, right.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

But everybody, they take it so serious. Oh, my God. And he did this. If I was. If I was so and so, I wouldn't. I wouldn't mess with Ocho.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

No More.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Wait a minute.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

I mean, hey, hey. I mean, they kind of got some points, though. I mean, I can kind of see where they coming from a little bit. You know what I mean? I ain't gonna.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You can understand.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

You can understand.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You might not agree with it, but you understand that joke.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Gotta see where they coming from.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Listen, hey, Joe, I don't. I don't. Because they don't live in no glass house. They ain't no better than me.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I think. Look, a part of them. Some of them do. Some of them not happy for us, ojo.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Oh, they not.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I think the vast majority. Look. Cause I think the thing is this. This the street committee. That's what I call the Internet. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. For the most part, when you see somebody out there, it's all positive. Yeah, when I see people out there, it's all positive. Yes, Joe. You see people, it's all positive. I don't get nothing negative.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

But on here, yeah, Yeah, I don't get it.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

But. Only thing is Twitter and ig, I don't get. I don't have. I mean, I ain't looked at Facebook in a hundred years, but if that. That's what it is. But all I'm saying is, if you get something wrong, you know, be mad enough to a woman enough to say, you know what, I was wrong.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Right?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

But the Shade Room, you got it wrong. But instead of saying you got it wrong, you pretend like y' all didn't hear nothing. Jasmine, Brandon, everybody else that ran with it, like y' all ran with it, come on back. Hey, that's all we ask you to do, to come on back. When Ocho gets something wrong, he'll say, oh, I was wrong with it. I get something wrong. I'm wrong with that. But you take a clip because you can tell the people that watch Nightcap regularly, he's like, y' all missing the point.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Ocho had asked for the tickets. Okay. Say okay. Said he shouldn't have gone to the thing. Unc said he should have just gave Joe the heads up. That's all I was saying.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Right?

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

But they took it. Man up. Don't love his kid. That's why he went to the game. He went, hey, no, I would. I don't really. I don't really schedule anything. Listen, but we ought to do this. I was like, hey, you.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

I. I tell you what.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

What?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

There's a reason why we the best

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

is out there for sure.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

And you can't replicate it.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Nope.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Hey, listen. Hey, Uncle Joe, we ain't Got to talk about nobody. We ain't got negative to get your views to be entertaining. Everything is organic. The stories are real, man. Hey, but, Joe.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

But.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

But after I say all that, you still gonna get these hands, though.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I give you private guys. I give you a prime example, okay? Everybody that had a pod, whatever, did they talk about the hottest story? The trending story was Kenya? Yeah, we didn't talk about that. Yeah, because I don't feel like. I don't feel. I didn't feel that. If we want. If you want to talk about it, Ocho, we could have talked about it, but I don't feel I have anything to add. I don't feel like I had anything to add to it.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

All this other stuff that was going on, we don't talk about. We don't talk about other people.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

People.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Because I think there's enough stuff happening that we can talk about that without mentioning them.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, absolutely right.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

People don't want to hear you constantly talk about Shannon Sharp or Stephen A. Smith. They want to hear you talk about you. You're a sports show, so talk about some sports. Yeah, hell, I ain't playing sports in a quarter of a century, but that's what makes us unique. Deep. We talk about sports. We can make things entertaining. We'll take the simplest things and make it very, very entertaining. People are entertained. At the end of the day, people want to be entertained, but they don't want to be entertaining. While you constantly trying to berate somebody and put somebody down.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

There you go.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

That's the thing. Okay? I. Hell, I ain't did anything entertaining quite some time. Plan on keeping it that way.

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

You hear me?

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

You say what?

[Podcast Host 1 (Joe)]

Let me take care of the entertaining part. Let me be the villain. That. That's. That's my spiel. I'll be the bad guy.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Ocho, they taking things that we said in, like, the first. Like I said in the first month that you and I were joking. In the first month of the show.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yes, sir.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

They playing it now. And people say, see, that's why it happened. Happen.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah, bro.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

I said that three years ago. But because you take the clips, you want paint, paint. Try to paint me in a negative light and people don't know any better. Cause if it's up there, if I post. If we post something today, people gonna assume it was said today or yesterday. Yeah, they're not looking to see you, man. He said that about not going to girls house. House three years ago.

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

Why y' all talking about it now? But I get it. It took me a while to understand. I was like, I see what you're trying to do. Y' all realize what the algorithm is. Y' all know who's in the algorithm. Mention his name, people gonna click. Hey, Shannon Sharp won an Oscar. Click. Shannon Sharp was walking down the street. A car broke down clear. It is what it is. It is what it is now, Ocho. So we just got to accept that we just got it. Joe, I'm sorry that we roped you into it. But. But, but you. You a part of it now. So anything that Ocho and I do

[Podcast Host 3 (Ocho)]

say guilty by association.

[Podcast Host 2 (Uncle Joe)]

You guilty by association.

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