Nightcap Hour 1: Wemby and Spurs KNOCK DOWN the Pistons + LeBron and Jaylen Brown Have a RESPECTFUL RELATIONSHIP + KD Wants to PLAY in 2028 OLYMPICS

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 1 (Feb 24, 2026)

Episode Theme:
A spirited, insightful breakdown of the Spurs’ victory over the Pistons, deep-dives on Cade Cunningham’s struggles, the evolving relationships and rivalries among NBA stars (highlighting LeBron James and Jaylen Brown), and speculation on Kevin Durant’s 2028 Olympic aspirations. With Shannon Sharpe (host), Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson, and Joe "Iso Joe" Johnson.

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Episode Highlights & Key Segments

1. Spurs vs. Pistons Recap: Rising Stars & Detroit’s Problems

[04:02 – 17:38]

• San Antonio’s Youth Movement

  • The crew opens by raving about a surging San Antonio Spurs squad after their 114-103 road win over Detroit.
    • Victor Wembanyama ("Wimby"): 21 pts, 17 rebs, 6 blks—“Wimby was everywhere tonight. He was sensational.” (Chad Johnson, 04:02)
    • Spurs defense forced the Pistons to shoot 38% overall and 19% from three, led by Castle (16 pts, 11 asts)—“holding Cade Cunningham to 5 of 26.” (Chad Johnson, 04:02)

• San Antonio’s Depth & Defensive Identity

  • The conversation pivots to San Antonio’s impressive complement of young role players like Vassel, Champagne, Dylan Harper, and their ability to explode on any night.
  • “You don't know on a night to night basis who gonna explode for 25, 30 points.” (Uncle Ocho, 06:36)
  • Praise for their “Rodeo Road Trip” start (5-0 for the first time since 2012, 41–16 record).

• Detroit’s Dependency on Cade Cunningham

  • Severe criticism for Cade’s inefficiency: 5–26 shooting.
    • “Cade can't go 5 for 26... He can't afford to have off nights like this.” (Uncle Ocho, 07:03)
  • Discussion of Pistons’ supporting cast not stepping up (Tobias Harris, Duncan Robinson), lack of second scoring option.
    • “If Cade gets held down, who can I count on?” (Chad Johnson, 10:04)

• On Efficiency & Playoff Expectations

  • Ocho compares Cade to Dwyane Wade’s ‘06 Finals run.
    • “In order for the Pistons to win, that's what Cade gonna have to do. He gonna have to take over.” (Uncle Ocho, 11:29)
  • Emphasize that superstars elevate their play in the postseason: “Look at Jordan, Kobe, LeBron…they elevate.” (Chad Johnson, 14:30)

• Detroit’s Ceiling

  • Consensus that Detroit’s pathway is tough without significant support for Cade—double-digit All-Star expectations for Duren, pointed skepticism on Harris’ reliability.

Memorable Quotes:

• “I ain’t got no whiteout and I ain’t got no erasers. So it’s in ink. It’s in Sharpie. ... 16 to 20, 10 to 15 [from Duren], K [Cade] I need you to be an All-NBA player.” (Chad Johnson, 13:54)
• “The great players… what you say, Joe? Shooters shoot.” – (Chad Johnson/Uncle Ocho, 17:38)

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2. LeBron vs. Jaylen Brown: Respect, Rivalry, & Parenting in the Spotlight

[21:00 – 34:53]

• Audio Clip: LeBron on Jaylen Brown (21:00 - 22:12)

  • LeBron praises Jaylen Brown, calling their relationship “pretty respectful... besides the shit he said about Bronny at Summer League.”

• Discussion: Family, Criticism, and Boundaries

  • The crew debates the blurred lines between basketball criticism and personal attacks—specifically when it involves family.
    • “If a co-worker says something about your kid, you gon’ feel some type of way.” (Chad Johnson, 23:07)
  • Ocho draws attention to how, in Black culture, helping your kid is scrutinized compared to other communities.
    • “We the only ones that feel bad about helping our child get ahead in life. … Jerry Jones’ kids work at the Cowboys… but we supposed to feel bad if we help our kids.” (Chad Johnson, 26:49)

• Criticism in the Modern NBA

  • “Once you reach that pinnacle, now you fair game—even your peers will criticize.” (Joe, 24:49)
  • Their verdict: Criticism is inevitable for top stars and their kids, but family bonds remain sacred.

• Iconic Competitiveness: LeBron vs. Jordan & Kobe

  • Comparison between LeBron’s friendly, media-savvy approach vs. Jordan and Kobe’s stone-cold focus.
    • “Jordan still ain’t got a whole lot of friends… They killed all the time and they couldn’t turn it off, not even off the court.” (Chad Johnson & Joe, 34:06)

Memorable Quotes:

• “The only unconditional love is parenting the child. ... A parent and a child is a different type of relationship than one you start outside.” (Chad Johnson, 24:49)
• “If I can’t get at your dad, I’ma tear your kid’s ass up.” (Chad Johnson, 31:51)

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3. Jaylen Brown’s MVP Case & Celtics Resilience

[48:02 – 54:54]

• Is Jaylen Brown the NBA’s Best Two-Way Player?

  • “Yeah, I’m gonna say yeah. ... He makes it a point to own his matchup night in and night out. And not only that…he following it up with 30 a night, man.” (Uncle Ocho, 48:10)
  • Praise for Brown picking up the best perimeter player “94 ft,” a tone-setter for Boston’s elite defense and a dark horse MVP.

• Celtics’ Supporting Cast & Brown as Franchise Leader

  • Recognition for players like Hauser, Derrick White, and bigs—plus Brown’s psychological edge: “He took all that talk personal…basically y’all telling me I can’t carry no franchise. … Hold my beer, right?” (Joe, 50:12)
  • Light banter about matchups, personal competitiveness, and Big Three All-Star game anecdotes.

Memorable Quotes:

• “He’s taking the challenge every night on both ends of the floor…he wins his matchup every night.” (Uncle Ocho, 48:54)
• “Show up and show out. … I compete at everything I do.” (Joe, 52:49)

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4. Kevin Durant, 2028 Olympics & USA’s Next Basketball Era

[54:17 – 64:05]

• KD Eyeing LA 2028 / Team USA Speculation

  • KD: “I want to still prove I can help the team win. … I don’t want just seniority.” (paraphrased, Chad Johnson, 55:05)
  • If he makes it, would be just shy of 40; LeBron would be 43, Steph 40.

• Discussing 2028 Predicted Roster (Flagg, Duren, Amen Thompson, Cade, Anthony Edwards, Chet, Haliburton, Bam, Tatum)

  • Skepticism about USA’s size and ability to guard bigs like Jokic and Wembanyama.
  • “We ain’t really got no big Americans who can guard traditional bigs.” (Chad Johnson, 57:22)

• Rising World Competition & American Basketball Culture

  • KD rebuffs “the world is catching up” narrative as racially coded, celebrating Black American dominance in basketball.
    • “All I hear is AAU is destroying the game. The Euros do it right, Americans do it wrong… it’s a lot of bull jive with that. … It’s a shot at Black Americans.” (Chad Johnson, quoting KD, 61:03)
  • Recognition that foreign players now dominate NBA’s upper tier, but the panel remains confident: “From top to bottom, it ain’t no teams better than us.” (Uncle Ocho, 61:37)
  • Note: Tatum, Brown, others omitted from ESPN’s predictions—“Jalen Brown said, ‘kick rocks’.” (Chad Johnson, 58:12)

Memorable Quotes:

• “The world has caught up to us in basketball…from a talent perspective. They ain’t scared no more, Uncle Ocho.” (Uncle Ocho, 60:39)
• “Once you get beat…it’s hard to keep them wolves off. Once the hyenas found out they could take down a cape buffalo…” (Chad Johnson, 63:09)

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5. Memorable Side Conversations: NBA (and Podcast) Tone

• Playful disputes over gambling styles and stories from Vegas.
• Inside jokes, braggadocio, and competitive trash talk—as much a part of the show’s personality as its analysis.
  • “Hey, that’s my limit. $1,000. … I just happen to be there—that’s circumstance!” (Uncle Ocho, 37:19)

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Conclusion & Tone

Throughout the episode, the banter is lively, unfiltered, full of competitive spirit and personal anecdotes that blend basketball critique with cultural and generational commentary. The Nightcap crew balances deep hoops knowledge with locker room authenticity, making insights accessible and highly entertaining—even for those who missed the games or headlines.

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[Joe]

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

Oh yeah, they. Hey, Auga Ocho. They look real good because you know they, they kind of top heavy, but they, they got, they got some great complimentary pieces. And you look at Vassal and Champagne, those guys pretty much won the game. I mean, Vassal started off the game, he was cooking with grease, you hear me? He was hot as fish grease, I think because Wimby, Fox and even little Dylan Brooks, I mean, not Dylan Brooks, Dylan Harper, those guys put so much pressure, you know, on the defense, bro. And Wimby anchors the defense, anchor Ocho. Even if he don't block your shot,

[Chad Johnson]

he's gonna alter it back there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh man, but they got so many weapons, they got so many guys who can beat you. You don't know on a night to night basis who gonna, who gonna explode for 25, 30 points because it may be somebody who you ain't really game playing for. And for Detroit, cade can't go 5 for 26. You know, Detroit depends on him so much. And this is, you know, part of the MVP MVP talk that we've been talking about.

[Joe]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

He can't afford to have off nights like this. OO and expect for the Pistons to pick him up and they win. It's just not possible. So the good thing about all this, the Pistons won't have to see them unless they make it to the finals, but.

[Chad Johnson]

Cause thank God. You're right, Joe. You look at Tobias Harris one of six, Duncan Robinson five of 15, three of 11 from three K. Cunningham was five of 26. Two or nine from three.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Ronald Holland came in, he hit his first three shots and then polite to go two of 10.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

For the rest of the game, 106 from three. Javante Green 05, Dennis Jenkins three or 10. And you look at, like I said, Champagne and Wimby and Darren Fox, Vassal, remember guys they got rid of so Sean because they couldn't get him any minutes, right? Yeah, they had to, they had to let him go. Cav is doing what he does. They moved. Harrison Barnes was once in the starting lineup. Now he's coming off the bench. Keldon Johnson comes off the bench. Dylan Harper, who's what, A top three pick comes off the bench.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

So this team is loaded. And like you said, Joe, on a given night, you really don't know who can light you up. You know, women can go get your 30, 20. You know, Stephan, Stefan Castle, he had a what, 30 or 40 point. 30 point triple double a couple of nights ago. Champagne. Look, but this is, this is a good team. And they, they play defense, they play hard because they can funnel everything to Wimby. Man, you know Wimby back there. Oh, yeah, he might not block it, but he damn sure gonna alter it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, and another thing, Ocho, it ain't but a handful of teams in the NBA who extend their pressure to pick up defensively. San Antonio is one. Detroit can do it.

[Chad Johnson]

Okc.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Austin does it too, and Indiana. And so this was a good defensive game. I thought, I thought it was physical. I thought Duran played great against Wimby Uncle Ocho. He, he, he was physical with him early. Took his legs from him a little bit, you know, because I thought Wimby kind of got off, he kind of got off to such a slow start. But I thought Duran energy, effort and just his physicality alone is what kept him in the game. But they, they gotta have the, they gotta have Cade play a lot better than this.

[Joe]

Yeah, I think I obviously, I watched the game, Uncle Joe and I obviously. Wimby Vassal look very good. Castle, when Bjam is going to do what he does. But Detroit, Detroit is a good team, right? They play both. They, they played very well on both ends of the court. But Cade Cunningham, based on the comments he just made a few days ago, not too long ago, about him being

[Chad Johnson]

the best, you know, American player right now, I mean.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, most definitely. So games like tonight, it has to show up. When you're playing against the cream of the crop when it comes to teams like, like the Spurs. So, I mean, obviously you won't always have games like this, but games like this where you need, we, you, we. We need you to show up and be at your best. This is the time to show out.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I agree. I agree, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I, I agree with you, Joe. I don't know if they have another guy that I can consistently if, If K get held down. Who can I really count on, right. To go give me that production. Right. Everybody else. I mean, you look at okc, if you shut off Shay, you got J Dub.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You got check.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

So you got other options. If you, okay, you say, I want to shut down Jokic. Now you got to deal with Jamal Murray.

[Joe]

Murray.

[Chad Johnson]

So other teams have guys that, okay, let's just say take the Rockets. Now. Shingoon hadn't been playing well of late, but, you know, he's a walking 2020 guy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

If you say, I'm gonna take KD away, you, Shingon can punish you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

So I, I'm, I'm looking at, and I'm looking at, I'm looking at Detroit. I'm not really counting on Tobias Harry, because I've seen enough of him. I saw him in Philly and when, when, when, when, when Joel Embiid.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Couldn't get it going.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I, I, I, I, I, I just don't have a whole lot of faith in tobacco.

[Uncle Ocho]

He gonna have to, oh, he gonna have to step up and give him something. He the veteran president on the team. He done been there. He's played on, you know, some pretty good playoff teams. I think when the postseason come, he gonna have to win them a game or two in a series in order for them to advance. Because you put so much on Cade. He got a Cade gonna have to play like D. Wade played.

[Joe]

And when was that?06 in the final series. He averaged 30 photos. He averaged 34.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ocho. In order for the Pistons to win, that's what Cade gonna have to do. He gonna have to take over. He gonna have to have an out of body experience to the point to where he's consistently carrying this team night in and night out. I think that's going to be the hardest part about them advancing in the postseason because other teams going to gear up to stop him.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes. And, and, and, and, and you know, he'll take some difficult shots. He's not the most efficient. We saw the other night, Joe, where he got up. What? He got up 34 shots against the Knicks. Now they won 42. What? 42. 13 and 8.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And so when you, and when you're inefficient and you win, people tend to, to look past it.

[Joe]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

But when you go 5 or 26 and you lose, they're like, well, damn. Well, he's kind of, this is kind of his MO. Yeah, he's not, he's not, he's not the most efficient. And I get it. I Get it? He's going to take some difficult shots. You ask him to do a lot because he's an outstanding defender. But I'm going to go back to Tobias Harris. The best thing to ever happen to Tobias Harris is that he got a chance to play with Ben Simmons. But because Ben Simmons caught all the flat while Tobias was on a max contract and wasn't getting criticized at all because everything is like Joel and B or Ben Simmons.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And Tobias Harris flew up under the radar. You thought he was a B52 flying up under the radar because he couldn't. He went undetected. And then you looked up like that, like, hold on, only has six points.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right. Right.

[Chad Johnson]

And we killing Joel Embiid. We killing Ben Simmons, but he's a max player, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I agree. I agree. I agree. He got to take some blame for that. But I think things are a little different for him. I think he knows he should know. Anyway, in order for them to even have a chance akin Ocho to make it to a Finals, he's got to get him a consistent production night in and night out. It's just not possible. They're not offensively heavily structured to put up 130, 140 points a night.

[Chad Johnson]

No.

[Joe]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

They're not constructed like that. So I expect Cade, obviously, to play a lot better, and I expect him to get a little help from these other guys. I think Duran has been playing awesome.

[Chad Johnson]

He was, I mean, you know, he's an All Star. He played really good in the All Star game. He was on the, the, the stars that ended up beating the Stripes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And they want, and, and they, they won the All Star. So I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm counting on Duran to give me a double double. I'm at least accounting on him to give me somewhere between 16 and 20. Yeah. And somewhere between 10 and 15 rebounds. I'm, I'm penciling that in, Ocho. Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I ain't got no whiteout and I ain't got no erasers. So it's an ink. It's in Sharpie. It ain't going nowhere. So I got that down. So JB goes to him, say, son, this is what I expect of you. 16 to 20, 10 to 15K. I need you to be an all NBA player. I need you to be you. You say you're the best American player. You got to show me in the MVP discussion.

[Joe]

Got to show me.

[Chad Johnson]

You got to.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And you got to take it to another level, because there's levels to this. If you look at, if you look really look at the best, the best NBA players, look at their playoff averages compared to the regular sleeping average.

[Uncle Ocho]

I agree.

[Chad Johnson]

They elevate.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You look at Jordan, you go look at Kobe, you look at LeBron.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Look, you look at, you look at, look at Jamal Murray. Jamar Murray is out of this galaxy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right.

[Chad Johnson]

But that's because that's when you make your name, that's when you grow that, become that iconic and grow that legacy and is what you do come post season.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

And if, if they're going to, if they're going to be what they think they can be.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

In Detroit. Because who's in there? If you really think about it, who's in their way? The Knicks, maybe the Celtics.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, Orlando's kind of up and down. Toronto is kind of hit or miss. You know, I don't, I don't know what b. I'm gonna get on a consistent basis. Scotty Barnes on a consistent basis.

[Joe]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

So right now, if you make me pick, I say probably the Knicks, Celtics. But Detroit's gonna have to. They're gonna have to play a little bit. I mean, you can't shoot 38 and 19 from the three and expect to beat an upper echelon team.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I think, I think Cade, he'll take, he'll take blame for this, you know, just being a leader. Uncle Ocho, you know, it's just some games you gotta raise your hand, be like, hey, my bad tonight.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Because we forgot about the Calves, the Cavs. The Cavs gonna have something to say about it too. Yeah, Donovan.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Those two big twin towers, Mobley and Jared Allen. So they're going to have a little something to say. And they got, you know, Merrill can shoot the ball from three. He can get hot and he could. Hey, he can shoot you out the building in a hurry.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, they, they had just came off like a seven game win streak. They lost the other night, but they have been playing pretty good ball. But, but, but back to K. Uncle Ocho. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not necessarily too worried about his inefficiencies. I need him to be aggressive. He gotta be aggressive. You remember how AI was when he was playing for Philly? He got to look to score the ball. He has to take volume shots because everything is going to be catered to stop him. And he's got a. This was superstars do, man. They show up when time is needed. He got to be ultra aggressive.

[Chad Johnson]

But here's the thing, Joe. If he say, like, if it can be somewhere between, like 44 and 47%, he started getting down there. That 41, 40, 39, 38.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

They got no chance.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, no, no, no.

[Chad Johnson]

They got no chance because a lot of those shots, they're gonna get run outs.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

So that's what. That's what you got to be careful because, you know, some of those shots, they're gonna. They're gonna be air balls. They're gonna throw the long pad, they're gonna throw a touchdown pass or it's gonna hit the back iron, and then next thing you know, two dribbles and a layup at the other end, right? So that's. That's my only concern. As long as he's not in the low 40s, dip down to the 30s, I think they have an excellent chance of winning.

[Uncle Ocho]

I agree. I think what hurt him tonight, he got off to a bad start. He's off an 8. One for nine to start the game. Hey, when you get off to a start like that, in order to get back to 50%, boy, you gotta start cooking.

[Chad Johnson]

You gotta make your next eight shots. You make it the next eight shots. Now you at 50%? Yes, sir.

[Uncle Ocho]

You gotta start cooking. That's one of the worst feelings. Cause you try to get it all back at once, Uncle Ocho, but you have to take your time and just let it come to you, bro. It's just a part of the game.

[Chad Johnson]

Because the great players. What you say, Joe? Shooter? Shoot.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, shoot.

[Chad Johnson]

And you believe the next one's going in. There you go like, damn, man. Somebody take the lid out the basket. The hell. Boom. And you get. And you get good looks through that thing. I mean, he was. I mean, he had one, three. It was all the way down and just came out.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know that feeling, too. Boy. That's. That's an ugly. That's an ugly feeling. It's tough. It's a tough one.

[Chad Johnson]

That's like us, you know, you. You struggle a couple, you know?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Drop. Drop one or two early.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Then you fight the ball.

[Joe]

Beat you up, man.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't. Caught the ball like six times. That's only one catch.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, you. You bobbing. I'm like, all over here.

[Joe]

Yeah. I know exactly what it feel like.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, so well. Yeah.

[Joe]

Oh, so well.

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[Chad Johnson]

LeBron James spoke about his relationship with Jalen Brown. Let's take a listen. This was after yesterday's game guys. Oh, I think you just use the

[Jalen Brown]

motivation of a lot of people. Just saying that they're going to have a down year because of, you know, obviously JT being out, you know, them losing. Drew, Al, you know, Lee Porzingis leaves their whole championship team pretty much is kind of revamped and uses as motivation to keep them afloat. They're playing great basketball, and it's because of him and the rest of those guys. He's. He's taking that next step. You know, our relationship has been, you know, pretty respectful, you know, besides the shit he said about Bronnie at summer league.

[Uncle Ocho]

But other than that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but other.

[Uncle Ocho]

But other than that.

[Jalen Brown]

Other than that, you know, we've been all right. You know, we guys know.

[Chad Johnson]

We get past that, you know, we'll be all right.

[Uncle Ocho]

We'll be all right.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, we'd be all right. I think he went on.

[Jalen Brown]

He went on social media and said something about. It was, it's all good, but Ronnie got a long way to go, but that's another story.

[Uncle Ocho]

So.

[Jalen Brown]

But the kid. I mean, listen, JB is doing. He's playing great basketball, man, and you can't even. You can't fall this out on, you know, this whole MVP thing. I don't understand why his name is not getting talked about some as well. Like, nobody gave them a shot to start the season. And he's having, what, 30?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jalen Brown]

Just under 30.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Jalen Brown]

It's a popularity contest. Sometimes

[Joe]

it is Dope. That's dope. That's how you answer a question as a true professional, despite some of the things that might have been said, you know, about your son. Hey, our relationship is respectful.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right?

[Joe]

I mean, most of the time, it's hard to gauge how someone truly feels, especially when cameras are in front of him, because anything LeBron says, you know, it catches fire. So he has to be careful. And any very media savvy in the way he answers any. The way he answers questions. So based on what we just saw and what we just heard, you would think it was no problems at all, despite some of the things that JB might have said. Hell, when it comes to basketball, yes, he's playing well. What is he supposed to say? He playing bad because he's not even with JT Out. He's the reason why the Celtics are doing as well as they're doing with the supporting cast that JB has now. Even with the stuff he said about my son. Ah, that's a whole different question that he's not going to answer truthfully on camera.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, I mean, you know, he. He, He. He kind of got into it, but this is what. This is what I don't understand. Joe, help me understand. Yeah, Joe. You got kids, Ocho, you got kids? I got kids. Yeah. Let's just say you got your son. He'll mess up. If a co worker says something about it, you're gonna feel some type of way.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know why people can't get that through the head.

[Joe]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

At the end of the day, Whether or not LeBron James is good enough to be in the NBA, that's still his son. So imagine a lot of you guys out there got effort for sons and daughters. When somebody says something about them, you feel some type of way. Yes or no? It's a simple. It's a simple yes or simple no. Because I know I would feel some about. Feel some type of way if somebody said something about my kid.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Chad Johnson]

Still his kid.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know why people. Is true. It could be true. But if somebody says something about your kid, are you going to be okay with that? Or you gonna be saying, hey, they told the truth. Your son go to jail, your son get popped, your daughter get pregnant as a teenager, you okay. If a co worker, someone you know, says something about your child, are you gonna be okay? No. But because it's LeBron James, y' all like, oh, he blowed it out of proportion. At the end of the day, the only condition, unconditional love is parenting the child. Yeah. Because you love your child regardless. It doesn't come well in a relationship. Well, as long as you don't. As long as you take care of me, long as you don't cheat on me, long as you don't believe. And I get. I get it. But a parent and a child is a different type of relationship than a relationship with someone that you start outside. And I don't know why people can't. People can't understand that.

[Joe]

And also, Joe, before you go unc, I. People to also understand now, even though it is your child, once you get and you reach that pinnacle of being an NBA player, sometimes even your peers were criticized. Not just. Not just your father, but, hell, your son can get it too. You know, it gets to that point to where now you're fair game. Because now you're at the upper echelon of the childhood dream, the NBA. So therefore, the crit, the criticizing gonna come not just from fans, hell, not just from media, but from your peers as well.

[Chad Johnson]

Let me ask you a question, Ocho, talk to me. How old can your kids be when before someone can criticize them and you be cool with it.

[Joe]

Oh, and never that. Huh? You know that. Never that. No, but I'm. No, no, no, wait, wait, listen. No, that's not what I was saying. Like I was saying, understand what comes with the territory once.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe]

That of said being in the NBA. That's all.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't. I don't condone. Ocho. It comes with the territory. And we know. Yeah, it's the same thing. It's the same. And people like. Well, you said this about Russ. I never played the music about Russ. I talked about Russ about the ill advised shots, the costly turnover, the matador defense. And people try to compare me saying Russ was not playing good basketball. Russ isn't the same player that he once was as the guy that sent Russ wife and talked about Russ in the same breath. How is that the same. Yeah, it's not. All I'm saying is, is that, look, yes, LeBron knows that there's some criticism that's going to come. They criticize LeBron and he just got more points than anybody in the history of the game. He's about to play the most games in the history of the game. He has the fifth most assists. Nobody that's in the top 10 can even. Nobody's in the top 20 comes close to LeBron as far as assists. Yeah, he understands that. But at the end of the day, there's still a place that's my child. And I'm going to protect my child.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

It is what it is. And it's us that somehow, Ocho, I thought that's what we do. See, we the only ones that feel bad about helping our child get ahead in life.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

They do it all the time where Jerry Jones kids work at. Joe, with the Cowboys. The Cowboys. What, you mean to tell me your dad can help you get ahead? How many times have we seen that? They help their kids get ahead, but we're supposed to feel bad if we help our kids get ahead.

[Joe]

Right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Right, Right.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn it. If my kids wanted to work in media, you best believe they got a job. And somebody might not have one, but they gonna have one. Hey, go ahead, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, listen, I think it goes back, you know, the last time I was on here with y' all. Heavy as a head that wears a crown, fellas.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho]

This is part. Hey, look, this. This comes with the territory, Uncle. I know what you're saying. Yep. That's my child. And I'm gonna defend him every chance I get. You say something about him because we're in a. We're in a funny stage to where in.

[Chad Johnson]

In hoops.

[Uncle Ocho]

We've never seen this combination before. We've never seen a father son duo,

[Chad Johnson]

teammates actually cross over.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

At the same time. And they're on the same team.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello. So look, now we having to deal with this in real time. And obviously, you know, Bronnie gonna have people shooting at him. It's just what it is. He's LeBron's son. He's gonna get everybody's a game. Every time he touched the floor, he got a target on his back.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's what it is. And he has to. He has to be aware of that. And I just think, man, it's unfortunate, but I love the fact that LeBron gave Jaylen Brown his props, his flowers.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what I mean?

[Chad Johnson]

It can be true. I didn't approve of what he said, but he's an MVP candidate. He played his ass off.

[Uncle Ocho]

Abso. Absolutely. Absolutely. Because they came into LA last night

[Chad Johnson]

and put on the show breaks off them.

[Uncle Ocho]

You hear me?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Peyton Pritchard. Oh, you. Hey, Ocho, you still think you could take Peyton Pritchard?

[Joe]

Hey, boy. Hey, young bull. Nice, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

You heard me.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, boy. Mr. Pritchard.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nice, ain't he get to that money on Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, and that's the thing. You look at him. Hey, you look at him and he'll go. He'll go to a rucker park, he'll and drop 30 or on somebody head. Yeah, cuz, they looking at like, oh man, man, they little white dude ain't about to do nothing. And you look up, next thing you know, his team got 140 and he

[Uncle Ocho]

got 50 of them, man. Look, that boy, what he had 30, 30 something off the bench. He. He came in getting straight to it. Boston got. Hey, look, I know we. We didn't gave him their props, but Boston gonna be in the thick of. Man, they. They've been looking good as of late. They've been looking good.

[Chad Johnson]

They. I'll give you another example. The same thing what people say about Magic. I had Magic on the show.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I asked him, you know, and I was like, magic, when did you. When did you know that your son, that EJ wasn't gonna be a basketball player? He wasn't gonna play football. He's like. He's like shop. You know, there were signs. We saw things that, you know, he didn't want to play with trucks, he didn't want to do things. And people want Magic to disown his son because he Chose a life that's different than what, a heterosexual man? Yeah.

[Joe]

Hell no. Hell no.

[Chad Johnson]

Magic say I. Hey, Magic say I. I believe in God too, but that's my son.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely. Absolutely. Whatever.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I just. If, If I got. If one. If one of my kids chose to live a different lifestyle. Yeah. Guess what? I talk that up, I take that up with God when I get up there with him. Yeah. That ain't got nothing to do with

[Uncle Ocho]

y' all down here, right?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, whatever God got in store for me and my child, yeah, I'll take it up with him once I get up there.

[Joe]

Yeah, most definitely. I mean, I. Obviously, you. You can't.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's.

[Joe]

That's one thing. Regardless of. Of what they choose to be, it might be against your will. It might be against what you. Maybe something you didn't want. Joe. Yeah, I ain't disowning nothing. Now, whatever you decide to do now, what you're not going to do, if you're gonna, if you're gonna be whatever it is, whatever you identify as, you better be the best at it. Don't you embarrass me, man. Now don't you half ass it. Now, if you're gonna be gay, you better be the best of gay out there.

[Chad Johnson]

Whatever you gonna do, you be the best.

[Joe]

You better be the best at it. Don't embarrass, But you better be one of the best at it.

[Chad Johnson]

Because how many times, how many times, guys have we heard, boy, that child can't do nothing wrong in his mom or dad eyes. Boy, that child, Abe, that child is terrible. But mom and dad can't see. Can't see no fault in their own child.

[Joe]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

We've all been there. I'm like, damn, my kid really that bad? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they that bad. But I. Look, I like that. I agree with you, Ocho Joe. That comes along with the territory. What comes along with the territory? That when you play a professional sport, they're going to get criticism.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

From peers, being from the media. Whatever the case may be, it doesn't make it any easier because a lot of times, Joe, you said something very interesting. You said, hey, they're gonna go at him. Well, if I can't get your dad, I'm gonna tell your kid ass up.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, that's.

[Chad Johnson]

That's the only way I get. Because remember I told you, oh, yo, the dude couldn't beat my brother, so he tried. So he tried to get you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

They could never do. Do anything with LeBron. So they go, they Go at Bronnie.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Chad Johnson]

That's. That's. That's just the way it is. I had it in high school when playing sports. Oh, you stirred a little brother. Okay. Yeah, I'm his little brother. But don't sleep now.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm gonna light y' all ass up, too.

[Joe]

Yep. Too.

[Chad Johnson]

But. But look, I think, you know what? You know, sometimes closeness brings resentment. You see, Jordan didn't get this kind of resentment.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

Cause there wasn't nobody close to him.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

Kobe didn't get this kind of vitriol because wasn't nobody close to him. And one of the things that people say about LeBron is that what he wants to be friendly. He wants to be like, hey. So I just. I, I.

[Joe]

You know, it's the fact that you just said that Jordan wasn't friendly. Huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Hell, no.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah.

[Joe]

Kobe wasn't friendly. Well, I know Kobe wasn't friendly, and

[Chad Johnson]

Kobe became friendly after he retired.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. They ain't care nothing about having no friends. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

No, and Jordan still. Jordan still ain't got a whole lot of friends. Yeah. Jordan mess with, like, oak. That's really the only dude that Jordan still rock with, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen. Jordan over there having a ball over there in nascar, he said he went

[Chad Johnson]

back to back race in Daytona and in Hampton.

[Uncle Ocho]

He said, I'm tired of basketball. I'm going to nascar.

[Chad Johnson]

It is. But. But no, no, no, no, no. Jordan, no, no, no, no. Jordan, Jordan. No, Jordan give a d. Kobe get. Kobe didn't care about nothing.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on. Wait. Wait a minute. I'm confused. Let's let. Let's separate the two now. I'm talking about on the court. I know they don't get. They don't care nothing about that.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm talking about off the court either.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn. Yeah. Some Sharks, boy.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, Joe. I mean. I mean, honestly, my personality, it wouldn't allow me to live like that on the field. Yes. Even on the field, I was fun, entertaining. But I'm a. I'm gonna kill you. Like, my mentality was, I'm going at your heart as a player, but I can't have that same mentality off. Like, I gotta talk, have fun, hang out. But what y' all doing? You want to go smoke money? You know, whatever it may be. But the fact that they were really

[Chad Johnson]

like that outside of basketball, they had a singular focus. Yeah. They killed all the time. And they couldn't turn it off.

[Uncle Ocho]

They couldn't turn it off. Couldn't turn on. It doesn't matter. Look, if you playing cards, if you put whatever you playing, they. They want to kill you in it, Ocho. That's just how it is. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Jordan bet everything. He. He not gonna do anything for fun. Ain't nothing. Ain't nothing for fun. Ain't no shooting no pool for fun.

[Joe]

It ain't no shoot.

[Chad Johnson]

Ain't no playing no cars for fun. It ain't playing no golf for fun. It ain't nothing. He don't do anything for fun.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, he wanna see how you. He wanna see how you work under pressure. Yeah, everybody don't work good under pressure. Uncan Ocho it bust pipes, but he can make diamonds as well. Everybody don't work on the work well under pressure.

[Chad Johnson]

And it's even worse when the money in your pocket. Hey, we ain't got the money to playoffs, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? But just imagine. Just imagine you had to put the money that you receive in the playoffs.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You had to put it up. And then if you got it, you. If. If you won, they doubled it. They gave it back to you. So Jordan gonna put a. Let's bet 50,000 on this hand, huh?

[Joe]

50 what?

[Chad Johnson]

55 on a hand.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Bye. That's the only hand you're gonna get. Bye.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

Jamal Crawford told the story. Dude had money, wanted to bet Jordan a hundred thousand.

[Uncle Ocho]

Let's flip for it.

[Chad Johnson]

Joy say, I ain't got a whole lot of time. Let's flip for it. And I know he said, no, I'm good. I ain't got a whole lot of time. I'm in a bit of a hurry. Go ahead and call it. Flip for it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey. Hey. He a dude love to gamble, man. He love to gamble anything that's competitive.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, yes, That's. And I think that's how him and Oak bonded, because Oak love to gamble, man. They say love cars, they love playing Blu Ray, they love playing guts, Joy. I mean, Jordan go to the. He. They love that. I ain't got it lonely. I'm telling you, boy, you make mistakes, man. Yeah, because they ain't no chips. They got real cash stacked up there. Yeah, see, like when you got Chip, Ocho, you don't look at. You don't see it sometimes you don't see it as money.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right, right.

[Chad Johnson]

But when you actually got money, you got fifty, a hundred, two hundred thousand, quarter of a million on that table.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, we. Yeah, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Stop it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hit a little different.

[Joe]

Okay. Hey. I can't even fathom. I can visualize. And what y' all saying, but I can't fathom sitting at a table with 20, 50,000 in chips. 100,000. 50,000 in chips. I mean, I mean, I mean, where they do that at? I mean, I understand people, I understand people do it because they have, you know, their vices, but, man. Hey, Joe, what's up? When I go to Vegas, a hundred dollars is my limit. Maybe 200 on the blackjack table, 25 table.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, you ain't gonna win.

[Joe]

I'm going.

[Uncle Ocho]

You ain't winning that with that.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe. I like the small win. Joe, to go in there with a hundred and leave with 400, that's a win to me. Joe, I know it ain't gonna move the needle, but just the fact that I don't gamble, but I will try it every blue moon. I only go to Vegas maybe once, twice a year. Joe, that ain't bad. That's not an addiction.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

I call that circumstance. I just happen to be there, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

You don't gamble in Vegas?

[Chad Johnson]

No, I hadn't, I hadn't actually been to a table and probably sat at a table probably 20 years.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah. No, I'm, I come to Vegas now, I'm get a little gambling, and I ain't gonna. If I lose a thousand dollars, I'm done. A thousand? That's, that's my limit.

[Joe]

Okay, Joe. Okay, Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

Quarter slots.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm shooting craps. I might play a little blackjack, but I ain't, I ain't, I ain't going too crazy.

[Chad Johnson]

Excuse me. Yeah, you see, you trying to, you all, you look, you, you the same kind of gamma. You want to load up on the 6 and 8, you go try to,

[Uncle Ocho]

but hold up. Why y' all playing, though? I, I, I was, I was staying at the win one night And I won 20, I won 27, 000 with this little playing black.

[Chad Johnson]

27, 000.

[Uncle Ocho]

Shooting dice, three car poker pocket. I was shooting dice on the crap table.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, you, oh, yeah. Okay, you.

[Uncle Ocho]

I was on the dice. No, no, lie. I was on the DICE probably about 35, 40 minutes.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And man, I had built it up to where I had about 4, 500 on almost every point, and I just kept rolling. So listen, hold on, though. When I won, when I had initially won 29, 000. So once I won that, I started taking all my money off the board. I was like, you know what? I know I ain't gonna be this hot too long.

[Sponsor Announcer]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

When I fall off, when I Fall off, I'm walking out the door, right? I lost, took my money, I was gone.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. The thing is, you bet. You bet it the hard way. You bet because they give you odds, what, eight, eight to one, 10 to one? All those six and eight.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

So you get the hard eight, which you roll. Four. Four, you get a hard six. Three. Three, you get 10. You know, a five and five. Yes, sir, you are five and nine.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, look, you just want to roll numbers. You just want to stay on the dice.

[Chad Johnson]

That's all you want to do. Just roll the number. Just roll the number.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man, What? Killing them, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I bet if we, me and Burns go to the table, we betting, somebody crap out. What are we doing here? I'm like, bro, this ain't a team sport. We not. We not team. I bet you crap you did not pass the dice.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Ocho. Ocho. Oh, y' all don't play no poker or nothing? I play.

[Chad Johnson]

I used to. I used to play. I used to play poker. I played in the World Series of Poker one time. Did you really? I did, yeah.

[Joe]

Joe, you'll be mad at me.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, you can't play no poker.

[Joe]

Joe, I don't even understand the game, boy. Oh, man, Joe. I gotta rely on the people sitting next to me when I'm playing blackjack and rely on the dealer if I don't have nobody there.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, I don't know. You go to the wrong casino, they don't let you talk.

[Uncle Ocho]

You can't do that, right? Right.

[Chad Johnson]

Huh? They don't let you go to the wrong casino, they won't let you. You can't talk for real.

[Joe]

The only casino I go to is. Is Vegas, you know, the Hard Rock, right here.

[Chad Johnson]

Down the street, there'll be a lot of casinos. You got the win. You got Ari, you got Harry.

[Joe]

Yeah, I don't know about them.

[Chad Johnson]

You got the Palms.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, Joe. And that. That's a good thing, too, for me, Joe, is the fact that I don't understand all the games that are in the casino, right? So there's really no interest in me wanting to play a. Let alone gamble. So not only am I cheap as hell, I don't understand the goddamn game. They got no way blackjack for me. I play a little 100, 200, 200, 25, 25 games simply because I just know I got to get. I got to be the dealer. That's all I know. Right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, I mean, look, look, I. I don't like the shoe. I like. I like Single deck or double deck, when they start getting to that shoe, they got six decks.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't really.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, I don't really care too much about it for that shoe. That shoe, man. That shoe have you messed up. But the thing is about. But with blackjack, one bad play can mess up the whole shoe, man. And you just get your. You get your head, bust the whole. For. For the rest of that shoe. Somebody take a. Somebody take a car. Take the dealer bus card.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, you mad at him on it. You start a fight over there. That's why I don't really play blackjack too much.

[Chad Johnson]

Don't even worry about it. That's why I picked my money. I'm going somewhere because, hey, because sometimes, man, I be feeling like they brought this dude in here to f the game up. I'm like, oh, I play black. I'll go play blackjack. Sometimes I play three pow guy. I'll play three car poker or I play crab. That's all.

[Uncle Ocho]

I play no roulette.

[Chad Johnson]

They play the shots. They just play slot machine. I ain't got time for that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all don't play the roulette. You just bet on the color.

[Joe]

Hell, no, no, no. Hey, hey, hey. Roulette. That's the one. The table go around in the circle.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

And they always. They say bet on red, right?

[Chad Johnson]

You better. What? I mean, you can read, bet red or black, but you're gonna come out better betting the number, though.

[Joe]

I'm at. Yeah, I don't own. I'm good. I'm good. I don't like that. Hey, hey, Joe. I don't like to bet no money where I'm not in complete control of the outcome.

[Chad Johnson]

If I'm not in complete control, the car. Don't know. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe]

No, I'm just saying in general, that's why I don't like Gamma. Because the outcome is not in my

[Chad Johnson]

control and them dies. Damn sure don't know you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely not, man.

[Joe]

Absolutely not.

[Chad Johnson]

But no, we got to go to bank, so. Oh, Joe, when you come out here. Cause I'm gonna go to. I'm one night. I'm gonna have. What's it called? I'm gonna go to the. I'm gonna go with Dana. I'm gonna go to casino with Dana. Dana be playing a hundred thousand hand. Two hundred.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'll be watching y'.

[Chad Johnson]

All. Oh, what you think I'll be doing? Hey, I played 100. 200. Not no thou. Hell no.

[Joe]

Hey, I would. I would love to be There just to watch that. Just. Just to see it in person. Just. Just to see it in person. Because again, knowing you got it, but you'd never do it, but see other people do it because they got it and could afford to lose it. I can't recoup no 200, 000. You know how long I got to work to recoup 200, 000?

[Chad Johnson]

Joe, man, hey, I'm catching.

[Joe]

No touchdown Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Oh.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh. We had to go out there and gamble with uncle. A little bit. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. Just a little bit.

[Joe]

How much we talking?

[Uncle Ocho]

I told you, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

10K.

[Uncle Ocho]

That boy ain't spending no 10K like the devil is.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe, I didn't have these same pants on for goddamn two months. You think I'm gonna spend 10K at the casino?

[Chad Johnson]

We gonna hit him. Hey, me, you, me, you, and Joe go. Go to the craft table. It's just gonna be us at the craft table by ourself.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, we betting all the points. I'm gonna be on the dice because, you know, they call me snake. I will. I call the dice for you. Stop rolling.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, and Joe, you know, if they know. If they know we coming, if they hear we coming, they gonna fix the table so we walk out of there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on.

[Joe]

They gonna fix the table, so we coming, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

They don't know we coming. Hey, I bring. I bring my cat. We bring it to. I bring my own cash, and hey, change them out for chips. Or you can say, hey, money plays.

[Joe]

Hey, that's not a good idea. That's not a good idea. They say the house never loses. That's what I heard.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, you watch. You watch too much tv.

[Chad Johnson]

Ojo, wait, I saw the Gambler.

[Joe]

Hey, you saw the Gambler Smith?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I seen the Gambler. I seen him with Mark.

[Chad Johnson]

Mark Wahlberg.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

I don't want that to be me. I don't want that to be me. You don't know when to stop. Now you're owing people money because you're trying to get yourself out of debt and get out the hole. I don't want to get beat up because I owe the shark.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, no.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you see? You see what? You call them Matt Damon and Rounders, right? Oh, Teddy kgb.

[Uncle Ocho]

He ain't seen that. He don't know nothing about that.

[Joe]

What movie is that? What happened? What's that?

[Uncle Ocho]

It's a. It's a gam. Gambling movie.

[Joe]

What's the name of it?

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[Uncle Ocho]

KGB it's called. What's called? Rounders.

[Chad Johnson]

Rounders.

[Uncle Ocho]

Rounders.

[Joe]

That must be over, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

It is, it is, but it's a good. It's a good ass movie.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's good.

[Chad Johnson]

Matt Damon and Edward Norton.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I like Matt Damon, though. Matt Damon, he hard, he.

[Chad Johnson]

But yeah, we come on out here, let's get this. This Jalen Brown says, I feel like I'm the best two way player in the world. Joe, do you agree?

[Uncle Ocho]

Is he the best two way player in the world right now? Yeah, I'm gonna say yeah. Uncle Ocho, he. He makes it a point to, you know, own his matchup night in and night out. And not only that, not only is he, you know, owning it on defense, but offensively, he. He following it up with 30 a night, man. You know, I think he's playing extremely great basketball and rightfully so. He's in the MVP conversation, man. It's still a lot of basketball left uncan. Ocho, he a dark horse in this thing now. He a dark horse in it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I definitely think, look, I always. I thought he was supremely athletic. The bounce that he has, he's worked on his game. You can tell that he's worked on his game. The outshot side shot is a little bit more consistent. Now the three ball is more consistent. He always had the ability to, you know, sometimes you get a little loose with his handles. Yeah, but he's always had the ability to get. Put the ball on the floor and get to the right. Absolutely has supreme athleticism. And you go back and look at when they won the championship, he took it. He took it serious. He took Luca. He said, no, I got Luca.

[Uncle Ocho]

94ft. Yeah. Hey, 94ft. That's his job. His job. Pick you up, weigh you down. So in the fourth quarter, you ain't got no gas. And he's still going. And that's how he's been playing, man. Kudos to Jalen Brown, bro. He's been fun to watch this year. It's actually been fun to watch the Celtics just the. Their whole team. It ain't just been him, Uncle Ocho, he got other guys who don't stepped up and they've been playing well.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Hauser and Derek,

[Uncle Ocho]

they got a big down there. Meta the big dude who been. Who were beating stuff up last night.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man. Yeah, they got enough and Vucevich, like I'm saying, the more comfortable, the more comfortable he get, the better off they gonna be. They're gonna be right there fighting it in the thicket things in the Eastern Conference. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, Joe. Hey, JB don't cut his hair. He ain't fooling nobody.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You don't let that Beijing.

[Joe]

No, you know, honestly, Uncle Joe, you know, JB done took it real serious, obviously, with all the stuff. Talk a while to talk about, you know, JT going down and how the Celtics weren't going to be the same. He took all that talk personal because basically y' all telling me I can't carry no franchise. Y' all telling me, you know, JT is the better player of the two, you know, so let me. Let me get out here and show y' all, I already had to deal with the bull crap when it came to the goddamn Olympics. Now you're saying I can't carry a franchise because, man, hold my beer right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Watch this, right?

[Joe]

He been showing up. He been showing out. Showing up and showing out ever since.

[Uncle Ocho]

You. You absolutely right. Oh, he's taking the challenge every night on both ends of the floor.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

And he's done it at a very, very high level. And, man, I'm talking about every night. He win his matchup, Uncle Oo. He wins his matchup every night, which gives him a great chance to win. Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, Joe, how tall is jb?

[Uncle Ocho]

About six, five. Six, six.

[Joe]

That's it?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I thought he was calling that. I thought he bought your height, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you about sick. About six, six.

[Joe]

Oh, how tall you is, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm about six, eight.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah. I like. I like me. Yeah, I like me going right around you, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

Go right around who?

[Joe]

Huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, one thing I could do is slide these puppies ojo. Where I'm from, if you couldn't play defense, homeboy, you couldn't get out there on the court. I'm trying to tell you.

[Chad Johnson]

You hear me? Yeah. Days over, Joe. Back in the day to let your slide.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, I. I know you can slide one way. I mean, how fast can you get back, you know, with your lateral movement?

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, man, first off, your hand ain't like that. To be moving nobody side to side while you talking about some. Man, stop it.

[Joe]

How you know, Joe,

[Uncle Ocho]

Stop the cab, bro.

[Joe]

What we gonna play, Joe? I'm sick of this.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, I told you where we gonna play? We gonna line it up.

[Joe]

Hey, you in. You in Atlanta?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I'm here right now. What's going on?

[Joe]

Hey, listen, are you prepared to play right now? Cuz I can fly down for the week and chill.

[Uncle Ocho]

I told you, man. You got. Can you give me at least a. April.

[Joe]

Hey, he's scared.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I got his spook. I got his spook. Hey, you spook.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

You scared?

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, I just need. I need to April, bro. Can I have to April.

[Chad Johnson]

Give me.

[Uncle Ocho]

Give me about four more weeks. Listen to.

[Joe]

Listen to me. Whatever you can do in April, you can do right now, boy. Them two months ain't gonna help you my boy.

[Chad Johnson]

Not with me.

[Joe]

Not with me.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm telling you, boy, I'm.

[Joe]

Your knees gonna buckle, boy.

[Chad Johnson]

Huh? You better.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oo. We already know you the big capital man. Everybody know that, bro. Everybody know that.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe. One thing I do is I compete, Joe. In everything I do, Joe. And hey, I'mma compete. I'mma show up.

[Chad Johnson]

You didn't compete with allar game. Ooh.

[Uncle Ocho]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson]

In that big three All Star game.

[Joe]

What about it? Listen

[Chad Johnson]

me.

[Joe]

Let me tell you what about it. I keep tired. I told you all a million times in that big three, I ain't messing up nobody money. Especially that much money. Them boys betting I let them take care of their thing and got my ass out the way. Because I ain't paying nobody 20000 to get in the way and show I can hoop. Excuse my language. Sorry about that, but Joe boy your ass grass boy. Heavy is the cr. Hey, heavy is the crown, right? We'll see who be wearing it after we done.

[Chad Johnson]

JB came in the Sunday game averaging a career high, 29 points a game, seven rebounds, almost five assists. He showed up, he had 32. Peyton Pritchard had 30. And they roll the Lakers.

[Uncle Ocho]

What your Lakers gonna do, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Nothing. They can't play defense. They can't guard anybody.

[Joe]

You know they couldn't play defense last year.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, they still can't, but can't. They can't rebound, okay?

[Uncle Ocho]

They can't keep nobody in front of them. That's why I can't stay in front of nobody.

[Chad Johnson]

They get beat off the first. They get beat off the first dribble.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Which compromise your defense for the. For the rest of the possession. Once you get beat off the first dribble, you compromise the rest of the possession.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's a rap. It's a rap. You got us in the hucklebuck. Now we scrambling, trying to catch. It's over with.

[Joe]

Somebody gonna be open.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Johnson]

Sliding all over the place. Joe. Kevin Durant says he would like to play for Team USA when his team suits up in 2028 in LA. KD said, you guys, the media have projected that narrative. Where did You. Where did the last damn thing come from? I didn't say that I wasn't playing. LeBron said he wasn't. You didn't hear that from me. I've got to stay on top of my game. I'm not, I'm not expecting. I want to produce on the floor and make Grant or whomever is making the decision, want to put me on the team. I don't want to. Not. Not just seniority, I want to still prove I can help the team win. KD makes the team, he'll be short a couple of, I guess what, a couple of months? Show I turn him 40, cuz LeBron. If LeBron were to play, he'd be 43. And, and Kate and Steph is. Is four would be 40.

[Joe]

Wait, you said make the team. What you mean make the team?

[Chad Johnson]

No, I'm saying if you were to play one.

[Joe]

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he gonna. Hey, man, look for the love of the game, bro, like, loves to play, uncle. Oo, they can say whatever they want to say about him. He enjoys playing the game, and every time he steps on the floor, you know what you're gonna pretty much get from him. Now, if he's still healthy at this point, still playing at a high level. Yeah, I would love to see him out there as well playing with some of these young guys to help lead the charge. I mean, every time he's played on the USA team, whenever it has been, he's always showed up and showed out, so.

[Chad Johnson]

Yep. I can see four gold medals.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir. I can see it, I can see it, I can see it.

[Chad Johnson]

What?

[Uncle Ocho]

He'll be 40. What?

[Chad Johnson]

A couple of months shy of 40.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he'll be able to do it, man.

[Chad Johnson]

He'll be able to do it because here's ESPN predicts the 2028 Olympic team. COOPER flag. Gerald Duran, Almond Thompson, Scotty Barnes, K. Cunningham, Anthony Edwards, Chad Holgren, Jalen Williams, Tyrese Halliburton, Bam. Out of bayo. Jason Tatum. I don't know. I don't know, Joe. I don't know. That team bringing the goal back.

[Uncle Ocho]

I like Cade and AE at the 1 and 2. I like. I ain't gonna lie, boy. I like Cannipple. I ain't gonna lie.

[Chad Johnson]

Uncle Ocho, he gonna shatter that rookie three point record. Oh, I mean, he gonna. Hey, he gonna put this mofo might have 300 threes, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen, hey, I'm talking about. He's shooting the blood out that ball, you hear me?

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, he could Go now.

[Uncle Ocho]

I like the Man Thompson kid. I like Duran. I like. I like the scene. I like the scene. What you don't like about it? Is it the bigs that you don't like?

[Chad Johnson]

Got the big. Who. Who gonna do something with Yoke? Who gonna do something with Wimy? We.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cause Bam gonna need some help down there. Him and Ch.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

Hey, Bam. Bam. Hey, would Bam be considered undersized Big?

[Chad Johnson]

Yes. Yeah, like a.

[Joe]

Like a tweener. Almost like power 4 center. You can play both.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he like a hybrid because he can handle the ball. Ocho. He can initiate the offense. You know, he can pass, he can playmate. He can do a little bit of everything. Bam, like a little wild card. I like having Bam in there.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but. But.

[Joe]

But hey, Unc, who is a Big in general, that. That. That can go in.

[Chad Johnson]

We ain't really got no Big Americans.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, not. Not no bigs.

[Chad Johnson]

Who can guard traditional bigs. You have stretches.

[Joe]

I mean, what. A traditional big wouldn't work in today's game anyway.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, obviously, you gotta. You gotta have somebody that can bang with. With Yoke.

[Joe]

Okay. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

You gotta be able to bang with him. You got to be able to keep him off the glass. You got to make. Make him work on the offensive end.

[Joe]

Right?

[Chad Johnson]

Cause he gonna get his. And the problem that you have with him is that he gets everybody else involved.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Tatum might say, damn.

[Chad Johnson]

That.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, y' all ain't played me. Like, I ain't feeling. He might say, damn.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. I see a name that ain't on here averaging 29 points a game. And then the MVP discussion, Jayla Brown said, kick rocks.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, how they don't have him over here. That's crazy.

[Chad Johnson]

He said B. B.H.P.D. disrespect to being closed by a vid down.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man, That's crazy.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but I. I could see KD playing. I don't think Steph. I think that was. Steph was all in on that one. Steph say, look, this. This is my first and last. I brought the family to Paris. Hey, we good? We got the gold medal. I'm good.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, and the performance that Steph put on, I wouldn't go back.

[Chad Johnson]

Never forget that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I wouldn't go.

[Chad Johnson]

That's the greatest Olympic. That's the greatest Olympic in a game ever.

[Joe]

Yeah, that was classic, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

I wouldn't go back and mess with that. I wouldn't go back and mess with that Uncle Ojo.

[Chad Johnson]

I wouldn't either. And when he shot that by me,

[Uncle Ocho]

he shot that Thing, man.

[Chad Johnson]

And he just. That back way, way. I'm like, God.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. He shot that thing with somebody not only draped on it, but he had KD and LeBron to his left, wide open.

[Chad Johnson]

He said, hey, hey. He said. Cause if y'. All. If y' all wanted to shoot it, y' all would have never passed it to me. Cause you're not getting it back, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey. I said, what? Oh, my God. They put on the performance. What?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, man. Cause, you know. Hey, man, you know, everybody looking. They chops with us. Joe and Ocho, man. You know, Canada want to try to get they lick in the Surge. Want to get they lick in Greece with Giannis. Want to try to get a lick in.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Slovenia with. Luca.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And listen, they. They waiting, too.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, and Jeremy. Remember Jeremy to beat him in Feeble a couple of years ago.

[Joe]

And.

[Uncle Ocho]

And little shoulder Schroeder, he a different player.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah. They got their work cut out for him.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cause they got a big target on their back. Big target.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know.

[Uncle Ocho]

Maybe.

[Chad Johnson]

Maybe Joel Embiid will be healthy enough to want to play.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah.

[Joe]

Hey, listen, I get. I give Joel Embiid my knees, man. If I can give my knees, man, just to get him. Just to get him healthy, get him running up and down that court, man, and doing what he could do for the Olympics. He could take my knees, man, and.

[Chad Johnson]

And then, you know, French. The French, definitely. What did Wimby say? He already look. He already looking at 28.

[Uncle Ocho]

You hear me?

[Chad Johnson]

The women say, he already.

[Uncle Ocho]

After they lost.

[Chad Johnson]

He said, I'm looking to get my lick back in 28.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be a good one, man.

[Chad Johnson]

The.

[Uncle Ocho]

The world has caught up to us fellas in basketball. Yeah. From a talent, talent perspective. They ain't scared no more, Uncle Ocho. They ain't scared.

[Chad Johnson]

Playing under those rules. Playing under those rules. Those fever rules. Oh, yeah. It's a whole different game. They could knock the ball off the rim and all kind of foolishness.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. It's gonna be a tough one for us. We'll pull it out, though.

[Chad Johnson]

Speaking of that, Kevin Durant also spoke about the narrative that the world is catching up to Team usa. Katie says, all I hear is AAU is destroying the game. The Euros do it right while the Americans do it wrong. It's a lot of bull jive with that. I can read between the lines. It's a shot at black Americans. We're controlling the sport. They're tired of us controlling the sports. France is Coming for y'. All. Really, man, we smack them boys, right, Brad, Katie, you got to come back to that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, hey, I like the energy. I like the energy, fellas. Hey, listen, because I'm with him on that, man. Listen, we. We the best.

[Chad Johnson]

We.

[Uncle Ocho]

I think as has the world caught up. Yeah, but I think guys have kind of got a little bored with this for whatever reason. But we got. We got to get back to dominating, man. We got to get back to dominating, fellas. I'm saying from top to bottom. It ain't no teams betting us from top to bottom, Uncle Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

No, but when the. When they first started, they might have had four or five players in the NBA. Every team that sends somebody to the Olympics, right, they got NBA players.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you're right.

[Chad Johnson]

So that's the difference between. Now. No, nobody have the depth that we have. It's just like the American sprinters. Nobody have the depth when it comes to 100 meter sprinting, 200 meter sprinting, 400 meter sprinting, nobody got that depth.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right, but they got a couple.

[Joe]

Yeah, I mean, you. You heard what you just said? A couple.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't think they have enough, but. Ocho. But here's the thing. When they played in 92, you couldn't find a foreigner in the top 25.

[Joe]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

The top seven, eight players in the NBA currently are foreigners.

[Joe]

Yeah. I mean, the game. The game has evolved. They have evolved in general. You know, they've gotten better, whatever it is that they do in their ecosystem. And. And having kids go through whatever type of training they do. Now you have more players in the NBA that are foreigners. But I still think as a whole, collectively, as a group, they will never be able to dominate us, especially at.

[Chad Johnson]

At.

[Joe]

At said craft, Especially in Olympics.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, well, they don't beat. They don't beat us before, so you

[Joe]

hear

[Chad Johnson]

once you get beat, right. It's hard to keep them wolves off. Once them hyenas found out they could take down a cape buffalo. And it's hard to protect them calves. It's hard, man.

[Joe]

Hey, them. Boy, them group of names you just put up, even though we ain't got no big. They ain't letting us down.

[Chad Johnson]

I sure hope you're right, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

That means. That mean your perimeters. Your perimeter guys got to be like.

[Joe]

They got. They got to be on. They got to be on point.

[Uncle Ocho]

They got to be.

[Joe]

They got to be on point.

[Chad Johnson]

I like that. No, that concept. For the simple fact he can shoot threes. You got to have somebody that can knock, that can be a knock down three. You got to have a couple of those guys.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, because you, you gonna have guys who can go off the bounce, who can create opportunities for other guys and you just want them other guys like Con canipple to be able to knock down shots.

[Chad Johnson]

Man.

[Uncle Ocho]

I watched him play. Uncle Ocho Con canipple, he don't even really look like no NBA player. But when I'm talking about getting it done, oh my God, the boy out there getting it done. Ocho, every time you look in the box, go, he got 20, 27 points. Like I'm talking about shooting it, man.

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