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We do have it in stock. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it and we'll ship it directly to your door. What better way to celebrate than with a bottle of Shea by La Portier? Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Check out my media company on all of its platforms. That's Shay, Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. We just dropped Nightcap and Chill Collection on Friday. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. Supplies are very limited and remember, when they're gone, they're gone. So please grab yours now. The biggest news of the day. Ocho. The spurs have announced they're shutting down Victor Wembanyami. Victor Wembanyama. Excuse me. Down for the remainder of the season with a deep vein thrombosis. The San Antonio Express News reported that the spurs are optimistic that Wemby will be ready for next season and that they're not as serious as the issue with Chris Bosh dealt with. If this is an isolated incident, the spurs believe that it will be closer to what Brandon Ingram dealt with six years ago. Remember, Ocho? In 2019, Ingram was diagnosed with a deep venous thrombosis in his right arm. That ended his 2018-19 season, but he went on to win in 2019. 2020 Most Improved Player. He has not dealt with clotting issues since. Also oo since he's being shut down, he's going to be ineligible for winning defensive player of the year because he won't meet the mandatory minimum of at least 65 games. Right. What do you think?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I have a question.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How are they able to diagnose how much the severity of the of the issue is? And they're. They're saying it's not comparable to what.
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Shannon Sharpe
What Chris. Nope. They say their hope. They hope, is more in line to what Brandon Ingram dealt with.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
And not with Chris Bosh. Remember, Chris Bosh tried to play again.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
And it reoccurred because normally when you have blood clots, Ocho, you have to take blood thinners. That's something that you stay on for the remainder of your life. So there's a problem because of cut, because the clots. You take blood thinners, you don't get clotting. So what does that mean? You get a nick, you get a cut, you could bleed out. So there's always that scare. Also probably. I think you'll have a greater chance of a Heart attack or something of that nature. My grandmother was on blood thinners because she dealt with clotting and she ended up having a leg amputated just above the knee. And but like I said, Ocho, she was on blood thinners for the rest of her life. And that's normally, if I'm not mistaken, Serena Williams dealt with blood clots also. So it also depends on the severity of where they are. You start getting them in your lungs and boy, woo, you got something to deal with. Any place of a blood clot, Ocho could be a very dangerous situation. But they're saying their hope is more in line with what Brandon Ingram dealt with. He missed the remainder of the season. He was able to come back when most approved, hadn't had an issue with it since. Not like Chris Bosh, what eventually led to his early retirement.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now, now one of the things I do want to ask you, being that obviously I'm not a health expert, I don't, I don't really know the background when it comes to things like this. Is this something that's hereditary? Does it, that, does it just happen that regardless of age?
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho he 21.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I know that that's, that's Chris Boss.
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Shannon Sharpe
Was probably what, 30?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, something like that.
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Shannon Sharpe
My grandmother was in a, you know, within her 60s.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So what deciphers whether it happens regardless of age? Is it, is what is it Diet Nutri? I mean, when you think about somebody like Wimble Yama, you think he eats healthy? He always has. Could I, I saw some earlier on Twitter today, someone, you know, be slick at the mouth and say, I guarantee you he probably, he probably, you know, he got the vaccine. I'm not saying I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm not sure if that has any type of effect, you know, on whether you get blood clots or not. I've, I've listen. You've heard stories that it does, it's called, it's caused people to, to have blood clots that didn't happen before, after getting the vaccine or you think of something that's probably in, in the family DNA. Other people have probably had clots that were, you know, part of the family and it just, it trickles down to.
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Shannon Sharpe
To everyone else without, without me knowing anything. Ocho is really hard to say. You know, it says that blood clots are solid masses that form within the bloodstream when platelets and fibrin, a protein stick together, which causes the clot. Right. You need some clotting because, hey, you get cut, you want your Blood to clot. You start from bleeding. Sometimes you take blood thinner. It thins your blood. There's nothing there to clot it. Okay, boom. That's another issue you can have. Obviously you get blood clots, you have a heart attack, you have strokes. It leads to a number of other underlining conditions. So Ocho, without really knowing, I mean, that would be something that you'd have to have a health experts to be able to somewhat in cardiothoracic medicine or something like that to be able to give you a more of a detailed look. What do they think led to it? Is this something that is hereditary? Ocho, I really couldn't tell you. I mean, what seemingly is a 21 year old healthier male? Yes, sir. And boom, like I said, Chris box was probably 30 when he got it. My grandmother was in her late 60s, early 70s when she got it. So I don't really know the rhyme or reason Serena Williams got it. She was in her 20s. And I think, if I'm not mistaken, Chat y'all can correct me if I'm wrong. I think Serena might have had it in a. In her lungs. Had one in a lung or something. Maybe it was a calf or. I'm not sure. But people get them in a very. A variety of. Sometimes they get them in the thighs, sometimes they get them in the arm. They get them in their lungs. I really don't know. Ocha is really. It's really, really hard to understand. Some things are hereditary. I'm not necessarily certain that blood clots are something that are hereditary.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right. And that. That's tough. That's tough for him. That's tough for the spurs, that's tough for the fans, obviously, in San Antonio, hopefully. I'm hoping for a speedy recovery for him and he's able to come back strong next year and continue to dominate in the way he has so far since he's entered the league. A phenomenal talent, very good. And prayers, prayers to him and his family as well.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I think, I think Serena, because I think it happened at Wimbledon. I think she stepped on a glass, a piece of glass or something. She was celebrating her victory. I think I could, like I said, this probably been 20 years ago, so I'm just going off the top of my head, made it even long. I think it was like 20 something years ago. And she ended up getting a blood clot, if I'm not mistaken, in her lungs. I think that's what happened, Ocho. Like I said, yes, Ash is saying, yes, that's what happened. I think she stepped on a piece of glass, ended up getting a cut, ending up developing a blood clot in her lungs, which was very, very, very, very serious. So hopefully, like you said, your thoughts and prayers go out to a speedy Recovery for Wemby, 21 years old. Such a bright, bright future in front of him. So hopefully this is only a temporary setback for a major comeback. But you really do. Like I said, they're hoping. One thing you didn't know, I can assure you when Chris Bots developed his, no one thought that this was going to force his early retirement. You just never know. And then Brandon Ingram get it. And so I think for me, a lot of times, you know, you kind of expect, you pray for the best, you expect the worst, but you pray for the best.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Pray for the best.
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Shannon Sharpe
The one thing you are betting, you know, you know, doctors always try to give you the worst case scenario because what they don't want to give you is a false sense of security. Oh, this is nothing. And then they come back a day later, it's like, well, I'm sorry Mr. Sharp and Mr. Johnson, it's a lot more severe. So they try to always prepare you for the worst, but say, hey, pray and expect the best. And so it's always easier to get. Oh man, thank you. As opposed to like, oh man, Lord have mercy, dog, I wish.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
So you know what I'm saying. So like I said, hopefully Wemby is. Cause I mean he can do it all. You're talking about a guy that's probably what, seven, seven, four and a half, seven five with shoes on. He can shoot the three mid range, he defend at an elite, elite level. He looked like he was projected to be one of the all time great players and historically great defensive players with his prowess blocking shots, challenging shots on the perimeter, obviously around the rim, everything is, everything is. And people, you've seen people pull the ball out, they get fast breaking, he's chasing, they're like, nah, I got a better chance of launching a three than laying this ball up and having him pin it against the glass. But hopefully we'll be. This is like I said, something that's very, very minor. It's not minor, but I'm saying hopefully it's something that he can bounce back from relatively quick. Yeah, I think they said they're hoping that if everything goes according to plan, they'll be able, that he'll be able to resume and be able to come back next season. So. So March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, I Think they start to see them so about eight months. So they'll see how it goes and move forward from there. But like you said, Ocho, we really don't know. I mean this cut because when I saw it, the spurs are shutting Wimby down. I'm like, damn, the guy just plays the all star game and y'all shutting him down. And you know the Spurs, Ocho, they normally err on the side of caution.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes sir.
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Shannon Sharpe
The a they started, it was them that started the load management with Duncan and, and Parker and Ginobili and then even with Kawhi as a young, young player, he got a load management. So they're normally, they normally err on the side of caution. But I was like, well damn, they've been overly cautious with this situation. I read that because I just read the headline spurs wouldn't be down. So I'm like, well damn. And then once I read it, okay, then you understand why.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, so that's, that's. The spurs are shutting Victor Wembayama down because of blood clots in his right shoulder. They said hopefully he's, he'll be ready. The word they use, Ocho optimistic, right? He'll be ready for next season. And this is not as serious as the issue that Chris Botched dealt with. Hopefully is more in line to what Brandon Ingram dealt with. He missed the season, was able to come back and most improved 2019, 2020 got a contract, got another contract, just got it. Recently signed a two year deal, three year deal with the Toronto Raptors. So hopefully we're praying for you, Wimby and your family. So hopefully this is nothing that, that you, that you can't overcome and we look forward to seeing you in the future. So thoughts and prayers to Victor Wyama and his family, friends and loved. Everything is more expensive now. Whether you're at the grocery store or the retail store, the last thing anyone wants is credit card debt. Enter Chime Credit Builder Card. This is a secure credit card with no annual fees. You can build credit with money set aside to avoid interest or expensive debt. Plus you'll have access to my pay and get up to 500 of your pay before payday. With no mandatory fees. Start building credit with your everyday purchases and regular on time payment with no annual fees, no interest credit check@chime.com nightcap can you imagine what you can do with better credit? Home loans, car loans, vacation loans would be easier and interest rates would be lower. Again. That's why you need Chime Credit Builder Card. No annual fees. Interest or credit checks. To apply Build your own credit using your own money. Turn everyday purchase into steps toward financial goals with Chime Secure Credit Card. Get started today@chime.com nightcap that's chime.com nightcap Chime feels like progress. The Chime Credit Builder Visa credit cards issued by Bancorp Bank NA or Stride Bank NA Spot meet eligibility requirements and overdraft limits apply. Out of network ATM withdrawals and OTC advance fees may apply. Late payments may negatively impact your credit score. Results may vary. My Pay eligibility requirements apply. Credit limits range from $20 to $500. Go to chime.comdisclosures for details.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh Joe, Brian Windhorse says LA is under immense pressure to get Luca resigned. He never said, I want to be a Laker. There are dozens of players over the years who have made it crystal clear they want to be Lakers. Luka never said that. This hit him out of nowhere. Ocho, can you see the Lakers not resigning Luka in la?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, absolutely not. Listen, they need a superstar. They need. LeBron only had what, maybe one, maybe two years left? He has to be a superstar to put butts in those seats.
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Shannon Sharpe
Correct.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And who is that? That is Luka Doncic. That is exactly what he's going to do at some point. Once he gets in shape, once he gets in rhythm, once he gets his legs and feet up underneath him. We're going to get to see the same Luga that we saw in Dallas. Averaging 29, averaging 30, doing what he normally does every night. And he is the future for the LA Lakers. And absolutely, at some point they're going to start building around him as the star. They're going to have to pay him. But when do they pay him? When does that happen?
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, I was reading the other day, Ocho, they said that Luka could sign a two year deal. So what is this year eight for Luka? Ashley, this year eight for Luka. He signed the two year deal that gets him to year 10. Now he be in line and he makes the all NBA team, first team one of those two years in the contract. Now he's eligible for a super max and now he can get that $400 million contract. Is that how it goes, Ash? Well, let me see here. Is it year seven? So he, okay, so signs a two year extension. Ocho, this is year seven. Next year sign a two year extension. So three years he can sign. That'll be 10 years. Get him to 10. And now he's eligible for a supermax. This is very, this is very important because here's the thing, Ocho, remember now you traded the guy that you really thought was going to be the succession plan to LeBron. AD you bring in a guy that's five years younger and say now instead of having maybe four or five years with AD we could possibly have 10 to 12 years with Luca.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
With Luca, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Now you've already traded A.D. you lose Luca. Now what?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, I, I don't think you're gonna lose him. You know, you're not, you're not gonna lose him. Obviously he knows he gonna be the centerpiece and be the focus for the future of the Lakers.
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Shannon Sharpe
There's a lot of other teams he can go and be the centerpiece.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Huh?
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Shannon Sharpe
There are a lot of other teams. He can go and be the centerpiece.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know he not leaving la. Come on now, you know better than that. Listen, the, his, the, the historic.
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Shannon Sharpe
They didn't think Shaq was going to leave Orlando. They didn't think LeBron was going to leave Cleveland. Did you think LeBron was going to leave Miami? Did you think LeBron was going to Leave Cleveland the second time?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, yeah, listen, he, he promised him something. He promised him something. He gave him what he wanted and then he went on about his business.
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Shannon Sharpe
Did you think LeBron J. Going to leave in Cleveland? Remember he's b. He was born an hour north of Cleveland in Akron. Yeah, he left. Nobody saw it coming. Nobody.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm trying to think. You, you don't, you don't, you don't just up and leave a franchise like that. Especially not, not a, not, not an organization like the Los Angeles Lakers. Not when you're, you're the main focal piece of everything. You are going to. Excuse me, you are going to be the face of the Lakers. You understand that? He understand that they traded for you for a reason.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. He, he wasn't Wilt, he wasn't Kareem, he wasn't Shaq, he wasn't Bob McAdoo. He wasn't LeBron. He didn't request to go there. He didn't make it. That's why, that's my destination of choice.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on now. Come on now. Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's be sensitive, right?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You already, you've already, you're in Dallas.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You in a great place. They shock you with a trade.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You go to, you bet. You go to a historic franchise, a winning franchise like the LA Lakers with the Kobe Bryant have played with the Kareem Abdul Jabbar's have played.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Where they're going to worship you. Where the unique. There has to be a star. Yeah, you are, you are that star. And you think the time comes he'd rather go somewhere else. Where else is there to go?
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Shannon Sharpe
Where else would Luka. So let me ask you a question. If Luka went somewhere else, he wouldn't be the star. He wouldn't be the center of, he.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Wouldn'T be the star. But what better place is it than la? Ain't nothing better than that. No disrespect to other places though.
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Shannon Sharpe
For you. That's not for him. Does Lucas strike you as a guy that's in awe of that kind of stuff. Remember, the European players are different. You look at Nikola Jokic, he's like, when can I go home? We got the parade. Oh man, I can't go back and get to my Porsches. They don't see, see, you're looking at it through the lens of an American playing for the Lakers. That ain't that easy.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, you don't, you don't, you don't think Luka values the franchise and what, and what it brings, what it brings to him? The brand of playing for the LA Lakers? The brand of playing for the New York, the new, the New York Yankees or the brand for playing for the LA Dodgers? You don't think he understands that?
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Shannon Sharpe
And, and Miguel Zoto left the Yankees and went to, and you went to the Mets.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's right around the corner.
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Shannon Sharpe
Now that ain't the Yankees, that's not the Yankees. So I, look, I'm not saying that he is, but I'm not saying it's not a foregone conclusion that he will resign. That's all I'm saying. And I agree that it's not a foregone conclusion that he's going to sign. But I think it's very incumbent upon the Lakers that they're hoping and praying and I'm sure they promised him the heavens and the earth because if they lose him, it's over. Because remember, they ain't got no draft picks. They just traded the 31 and I think they got what, a 27 and they just traded what they traded. 31st or the 29th, but I don't think they got one, you know, top lottery, unprotected pick.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, listen, listen. You'd have been around the game a very long time, very long time.
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Shannon Sharpe
And you know somebody like not Miguel Soto, Juan Soto.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Juan Soto. Even, even though, even though, even if he. European players don't have that same feel for playing for historic franchises like the Lakers. You know good and well he ain't going nowhere.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I know good and well he ain't going nowhere.
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Shannon Sharpe
We'll come back to this. Right now we're being joined by two time Pro bowl running back, James Cook. James, thank you for joining us, bro.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What up, J.C. what's up?
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James Cook
What, what up, my boy?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, let me hold something, man.
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James Cook
You got it, man.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Babe, listen, put it on the floor, boy. I'm gonna pick it up Now.
- [29:30]
Shannon Sharpe
James, let's talk about this great season that you had. Over a thousand yards, I think what, 15 rush touchdowns during the season, had an outstanding. Like we just Dropped it. Bear with us. God, he's on his cell phone. He was kind enough to join us. He was not going to be in a situation where he could get land, bro.
- [29:49]
James Cook
I'm bad.
- [29:50]
Shannon Sharpe
I appreciate that, bro.
- [29:52]
James Cook
Yeah.
- [29:53]
Shannon Sharpe
As I was saying, great season, running the football, revamped offense as far as running the football. Offensive coordinator, first time full time. He blended. Took over a year ago in the. Halfway through the season, when you look at what you. What you were able to do in particular and what this team was able to do, considering all the pieces that you lost, you lost your two top receivers, you. Matt Milano was injured a lot of the season, a lot of your DBs, both of your safeties and white gone. Nobody really expected you guys to be in this situation. Did you really think that you guys had an opportunity, had a chance to end up being where you were in the AFC championship game and what, three points away from actually winning that game?
- [30:40]
James Cook
Without a doubt. I mean, when you got 17 back there, it's always a chance. Like that's what I say. Like, I just feel like he wanted the best and he gonna put us in the best situation to always win. So when he back there and we back there and we connecting is something great.
- [31:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, everybody always talks about Josh Allen. They always talk about him losing, you know, some of the. Some of the losing digs and then not having superior weapons on the outside. But what people don't talk about enough of is what you've been able to do. You take some of the pressure off of Josh Allen. Listen, you stepped into a bigger role in the Bills offense. You know, how have you embraced being a centerpiece in that system?
- [31:28]
James Cook
I just came to work every day. For real. For real. Like, that's all I can ever do. Like, I can control what I can control at the end of the day. But when you don't come in there at work and you don't come in and be that guy and be that leader in the locker room, you will never be nothing. So that's what I tried to come and do. And I feel like it been working. I'm a team guy. I'm always coming in at work. And when they come on Sundays. I gotta kill you, Jay.
- [31:56]
Shannon Sharpe
When I look at you guys, I mean, you get so close every year. You had the best record in the AFC two years ago go. And then you end up losing at to Baltimore. And then this year you had an unbelievable season and you le lose to Kansas City in the championship game. What is the next step? What do you guys need to do in order to get over that hump, which is Patrick Mahomes in the afc.
- [32:21]
James Cook
You just got to be aggressive. Like, I just feel like we got to be aggressive. And, and, and when, when a guy like 15 back there, you gotta, you gotta just gotta beat him. Like, moral story, like, I can't say nothing else. Just gotta beat him. So you, when you come in games like that and, and you know, when you're back against the wall, then you gotta win and you got your guys next to you, you gotta go in, you know, you playing one fight, you know, you know, you know how it's gonna be. You know, it's gonna be ebbs and flows of the game. So you gotta just control what you can control and go out there and play football at the end of the day.
- [32:56]
Shannon Sharpe
So you would, you would like to be more aggressive early on, you feel like you got, when you guys fell behind, then you became aggressive. You like to see that from the word jump.
- [33:05]
James Cook
Let's go off the rip.
- [33:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. You know, it never happened. It never happens that way. For some reason, especially when you get to playoff games with games of extreme importance. Most of the time. I think sometimes, especially from a coaching standpoint as an offensive coordinator, you say you overthink. You overthink the game instead of just playing free, you know, you're, you're. You already have what you've already done throughout the entirety of the season because you're playing the Kansas City Chiefs. There's no need to press. Just continue to do what you've always done. And you use, use your bail cow, you, for instance, in 17, and just rock out. And I think they lost sight of that or he, the offensive coordinate lost sight of that once you got to that game and not allowing himself to just, just play freely, call the plays freely because you got all you need right there in hand. And I think for one, y'all are going to consistently be back. You know, obviously you're in afc, obviously I'm a Bengal fan. But understanding what you guys have, and I want to talk about you from an individual standpoint and how much your game has evolved from a rookie to now and where you are right now, what do you think you need to work on? As good as you've gotten from your rookie season to this point, what do you think you need to work on to continue to evolve at the running back position?
- [34:19]
James Cook
I just feel like I can. I just gotta keep getting better and, you know, like, be able to be unfair every down, like in key situations. Like, I feel Like, I could do it. Shit, just at this point, like, what else more I could do? Like, so I just feel like, man, just keep me on the feeling and great things are happening.
- [34:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, we also. Whoa, whoa, one more. Hold on, I got one more. I like this here. I like this. Listen, there are a lot of good running backs in the league, right? You know, Henry's the McCaffreys, even though he was injured for most of the season. If there was one thing you could take from one of the running backs in the league that you look up to and you're a fan of, if there was one thing from their game you could add to yours, what would it be?
- [35:06]
James Cook
I go with Christian McCaffrey. Just like, there's all the explosiveness that he got in his game and what he can do with the ball and so many positions that he can be in and you don't even know when he getting the ball. And he's just getting the ball and just go this bitch like all that. So just putting that traits in my game and be able to learn from what he doing. And my, like, I looked up to my brother, so it's like whatever he can, whatever I learned from him, I put that in my game and just try to just go out there and play football. At the end of the day, shit, we've been doing it.
- [35:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
- [35:38]
Shannon Sharpe
There are reports, James, and you can confirm or deny this, that you want to be the highest paid running back in the NFL. And men are like, hold on, wait a minute now. I don't know if he's earned that or he's deserving of that. What do you say to the people that says, man, James Cook don't deserve to be the highest paid running back? I'm sorry.
- [35:56]
James Cook
At the end of the day, I feel like we just going against running backs, right? And I feel like we deserve to get paid. Cause when it comes down to the back end of the season, we play a big part of this shit. Like, so however they want to take it, then I'm standing with the running back. Shit.
- [36:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Now, if I'm not mistaken, you can correct me if I'm wrong again. Now, it's reported that there were a phone call between a lot of the top running backs, yourself and McCaffrey and Derek Henry and Saquon Barkley. And I think Josh Jacobs was on that call. When you guys had that call, if you were on that call, what was that discussion?
- [36:35]
James Cook
Yeah, we valuable and we deserving what we need. Cause we in the trenches every time, shit, we bang Shit, when it come down to the stretch, you gotta run the ball. So it's like, how is we not valuable? How are we not valuable if we can the back end of the season, you have to run the ball. When it's snowing, this shit get six feet of snow, we gotta run the ball. So it's like, what more can you. How is we not valuable? At the end of the day, like his point blank period. And you can see like what we do and the position that we play, we play a big part of offenses. Like just period, right?
- [37:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you know what? You are correct. And the NFL owners, I'm not sure when that dynamic shifted to where the running back position wasn't valued the way it used to be. Obviously during Unk's era, during my era, the running back was a very important position. And you guys can actually fight. You guys have a case. You guys can voice your reason for wanting and commanding the kind of money you want. Because players like you, Saquon, Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey and maybe, maybe two others, you know, your Jonathan Taylors.
- [37:51]
James Cook
No, I'm gonna get Jamel Gibbs, Jameer.
- [37:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Gibbs, Josh Jacob as well. You guys are at the forefront of being able to command the kind of money you want because of what you guys are able to do and taking some of the pressure off your quarterback. When the team needs you guys to grind the clock out, who's the one to show up? Y'all bail cow. That's what it is.
- [38:15]
Shannon Sharpe
And.
- [38:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And most of you can play three downs. Use a goddamn dude threat. So you, you should be getting two goddamn checks. You can line up outside, you can catch it out the backfield, you can hand it off to you. I mean, listen, I'm with you especially when it comes to getting paid because y'all bring a different dynamic than more than just being a running back. Cause you do more than just run the goddamn ball.
- [38:40]
James Cook
And I can say just one thing, though. I just feel like. I just feel like. Like we just do so much. Like, just like by going to practice and doing all the little shit, right? And I just feel like we deserving of it. Like. Like, why not? Like shit, we work all. I like to get paid. Like, send me the big bucks. Like, why not, bro? Like, I want to go chase the highest, highest of the highest. Like, and I'm keep doing it. Like, I'm a stand on what I stand on. Like, and I. And I don't want to feel like a cancer at all because I never. I don't like all that attention and all that. All that. Like, that's not me. Like, honestly, like. And I just. I'm just standing on business, man. If you think about it, and what I deserve.
- [39:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead. No, go ahead, finish up.
- [39:25]
James Cook
That's it. What I deserve.
- [39:28]
Shannon Sharpe
When I. When. If you think about it, James, since McCaffrey got that 16 million, nobody's even come close to that number. And so now, you know, you're going to uncharted territory. You look at what Saquon got, I think saquon got about 13 and a half. You saw what Derrick Henry got. He got about, what, eight and a half. You see what Josh Jacobs got. I think he was around 12, 11 and a half. So, you know when you say you want to be the Highest paid and McCaffrey is at the number that he's after, you know, you're reaching for the stars. Are you hoping you land on the moon and get something close to that? Or you want to super, or you want to jump over that?
- [40:05]
James Cook
And I just want to get what I get I deserve. That's all. I want to get what I asked for. That's all.
- [40:14]
Shannon Sharpe
What role? Let me ask you a question. I had a brother that played in the league before I got there. I idolized my brother, and I wanted to be just like him. What role did your brother play and how good. Cause I'm surprised. I think everybody's surprised you didn't follow his path at Florida State. You went to Georgia. You probably glad you did. But what role did your big brother play? And the guy that we see today that's turned into one of the premier running backs in the NFL, a big role.
- [40:41]
James Cook
Honestly, just if I ask him a question, it just. He always there for me. It's like, he always tell me to be myself. Don't never, like, stop from what got you here to, like, create myself to being somebody that I'm not. So I just feel like that's what he told me, and I'm gonna keep. Continue to being myself and just always have that older brother in my ear to always guide me in the right direction. And I'm gonna. And that's my oldest brother, and I'm always listening to him. So I feel like he the great. He set the standard. So it's like, why not follow it? It's like, if I don't follow it, it's like I set myself short because I had a older brother to lead the way and show me the ropes on how to get there, and if I don't follow it, I'm a failure. I feel like. You know what I'm saying? So it's like always, just keep working hard and keep grinding and get what you want in life. That's all I can say.
- [41:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Hey, you know. You know, it's funny when I think about it, I. I would. I would have loved the opportunity to have a brother, you know, Santana, you. I'm trying to think other. Give me. Give me one. One more set of brother.
- [41:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Jj. TJ Watt. Yeah.
- [41:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
TJ Watt.
- [41:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Manning.
- [42:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that, man. That has to be, like, the greatest feeling to have a brother. And when y'all were growing up, did y'all compete? Did y'all compete? Now, obviously, I know you went to. I don't know. I'm not sure when he was that central. When he was that central. You weren't there, though, obviously. Right? He was a little younger.
- [42:12]
James Cook
Yeah.
- [42:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now, that. Oh, that. That has to be the greatest feeling, bro.
- [42:17]
James Cook
We still compete to this day. It'd be so crazy. We compete in UNO still. Yeah. Yeah.
- [42:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on. Uno. We compete in the game.
- [42:27]
James Cook
Shit, we. If we. Whatever, we compete. Cause, like, I, I, we brothers, and we understand, like, we never gonna go against each other. And we always understand, like, at the end of the day, you my oldest brother, and I respect you to the most. Up high. And I never do nothing, ever, even fail my family, like. Cause I know, like, I was guided the right way.
- [42:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [42:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you this. What are some. What do you listen to to get you in that mood? To get you locked in before the game? So what. When you. When you. When you got the head. The beats on and you got the headphones on, and you. What you. What you vibing with to get you locked in?
- [43:03]
James Cook
I ain't even gonna lie to you. I'm on young boy.
- [43:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [43:06]
James Cook
I'm on young boy time. And it's like, I gotta get up. I gotta get up for the game. So it's like before the game, I slow down, listen to a little R and B.
- [43:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [43:15]
James Cook
Calm myself down before the game. Never get too low, never get too high. So pregame, getting myself together, I'm vibing to a little R and B, calming myself down. But before I get on the field, his smell is hot and young. Boys, it's time to go.
- [43:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hey. Has it ever bothers you, right? Obviously, being a Florida boy, you know how the weather is out here? It's always hot. You know, when we get. When we get a cold front, Our cold front is about 70 degrees. Has the weather. Have you gotten used to the weather out there in Buffalo. Has it bothered you at all?
- [43:50]
Shannon Sharpe
No.
- [43:51]
James Cook
You get adjusted to it. I feel like that's a mindset.
- [43:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [43:54]
James Cook
Like you gotta go out there and feed your family. You gotta go out there and play at the end of the day.
- [44:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Right? Right.
- [44:03]
James Cook
Hey, that up for what they playing?
- [44:06]
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't got to be out there for two hours in it. I'm good.
- [44:10]
James Cook
Sacrifice.
- [44:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh yeah.
- [44:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey James, thank you man. Congratulations on a great season. You made the Pro Bowl. Hopefully bigger and better things to come in the future. Hey, stop back by when you sign that big payday. Stop back by and drop something off.
- [44:25]
James Cook
For us you already know, huh?
- [44:29]
Shannon Sharpe
I appreciate that, man. Cook, ladies and gentlemen.
- [44:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right, well how that's holl at you.
- [44:32]
James Cook
I got you.
- [44:33]
Shannon Sharpe
All right.
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- [47:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. Earlier today, Sean posted a statement from Jeff Schwartz of Excel Sports Management. The overwhelming sentiment after confirmed with multiple nationally recognized doctors is that the Lakers should not have failed Mark Williams on his physical. Ocho, what do you make of this?
- [47:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, listen, that's one thing.
- [47:49]
Shannon Sharpe
That.
- [47:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's one thing. You hear my alarm? That's the wake me up for nightcap. You know, your doctors most of the time make mistakes. Very seldom. Excuse me, very seldom make mistakes. I think as a player he should be upset. I'm not sure if he would take legal action. What you mean he can't?
- [48:12]
Shannon Sharpe
What are you going to do? What are you going to say?
- [48:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You. There's nothing wrong with me and you failed me in the physical and you failed.
- [48:20]
Shannon Sharpe
That's not his call. He's not a doctor. They failed him on the physical.
- [48:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If there's nothing wrong with him and you fail me, who's responsible?
- [48:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Kaki, let me ask you a question. So Drew Breed should have sued the Dolphins. Cause they failed him on a physical.
- [48:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on. His shoulder was messed up, huh? His shoulder was actually messed up for real?
- [48:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, maybe to their standard. His knee or his back is messed up to their standard. You got to realize each team sets the standard in which they will or won't pass it. We took Mark Floretta. His knees. He had. He had terrible knees. But if you want him, you take it. If you don't, you fail him.
- [49:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How about this?
- [49:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [49:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How about just say. How about just telling the truth? You know, we really don't like. We really don't want you. You really don't fit what we're trying to do. You're not the type of player, but.
- [49:10]
Shannon Sharpe
He actually does fit what they want to do. Luca wanted a lob threat. If you go look at what they got with lively. Look at what they got with Daniel Gafford. That's what they want. That's what he wanted. He wanted a law threat. That's why they were willing to trade young Dalton connect, just in order to get him to appease Luca. So they absolutely wanted it. But here's a guy that's 22 years of it. Come on now. Here's a guy that's 16 and 9. Why they trading it? Oh, don't it. Don't it make you think what's going on? What's going on when somebody. They start trading, like, hold on. Why did you train him? He's 16 and 9. He's 22.
- [49:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Something ain't right.
- [49:52]
Shannon Sharpe
See, look.
- [49:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Something.
- [49:56]
Shannon Sharpe
The Hornets contested it like there's nothing wrong with him. But the NBA is like, bro, they medical team, their medical staff thank Dr. Elytraj. Mia Ellatroche. They got some. The curling job clinic is what handles a lot of what the Lakers do. I know those guys. I went to the curling job and they did both hips.
- [50:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [50:15]
Shannon Sharpe
So I. I'm. I'm very familiar with them. But like, like I said, Ocho, your doctor said, hey, man, Shannon, good to go. Another doctor say, man. Boy, I don't even know how you walking with them. Yes.
- [50:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
There's something ain't right. Now, as doctors, right? I think everybody had the same protocol. Everybody had the same procedures. It's not like one doctor doing something different than the other doctor when they've all. When they've all learned the exact same way, especially when it comes to looking over patience, especially players that play at the highest level. So how one get it wrong and the other one get it right. Something ain't making no sense.
- [50:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, you have to understand, each team has to have their own set of rules, own set of what they will and won't accept. It's like that. You think. Let me ask you a question. Do you actually think all 32 team NFL doctors have the same guidelines on what they will and won't pass a guy on the physical when you go to the combine, Some team doctors failing, some team doctors don't. Some teams have red flags, some teams don't.
- [51:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Did you hear what you just said?
- [51:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [51:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If they like you, regardless of what happens in those procedures, they will sign you. If they want you, if they know they can use you. So why not just say you don't want him because he had no problem playing where he's playing now.
- [51:35]
Shannon Sharpe
That's them, Ocho.
- [51:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, all right. You right, you right, you right.
- [51:41]
Shannon Sharpe
But see, you make it seem like, oh, just, Ocho, this is a professional setting. Why don't the doctor just tell you you gonna die? Just be truthful. Why don't they tell you that? Ocho, want me to tell you? Hey, you're not gonna be able to do this or you're not gonna be able to do that. Come on now, Ocho, the medical is different. You just can't tell somebody. You try to be as positive as you possibly can. They don't tell you one way or another. Let's see. Let's see what happens. But I get it. I get it. Why his agent. That's the Lakers. Would you rather be in Charlotte or would you rather be in LA playing with LeBron and Luka or playing with Miles Bridges and LaMelo Ball? Now, which would you rather be?
- [52:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, obviously la.
- [52:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, exactly.
- [52:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You see? You see what you just said? Where would you rather be?
- [52:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [52:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And now that goes back to my question. Why would you think Luka would want to leave?
- [52:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Because Mark Williams is American. Let me ask you a question. Does Luca look at the American play? Look at the European players, Ocho, when they retire, what do they do? They go back. Yeah, they go. They don't stay in. They don't stay in la. They don't stay in wherever they played at. They go back. It's not the same to them. You're looking at it from our perspective as being Americans. And a lot of people look at America or they look at LA and they look at you. Your like, oh, that's where I want to be. But that's not how they perceive it. And so you have to look at it through their lens. And so. Luca, go ahead.
- [53:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And it's funny, when I think about it, I think about Miami, right? And I don't talk about playing. I'm not talking about basketball. In a sense, Miami is a melting pot for every ethnicity. Even if you are from wherever it is, this is a place you want to be.
- [53:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Why?
- [53:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because you have a community that looks just like those. Where that are. Where you from. When I think about la, where. Where's Luca from again?
- [53:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Slovenia.
- [53:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I guarantee you there's a Slovenian community in LA because there's every ethnicity, restaurants, people. So why wouldn't you want to be there? It's not like you're gonna be by yourself. It's not like you're gonna be in solitude. Those that Think and are like minded. Just like you from your community, from your background are right there.
- [54:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Because here's the thing, Ocho, you say they got communities. What does Slovenian have? 95, 98% Slovenians. They don't have a community. They got a whole country. So, you know, it's like, look, you got little Haiti, you got little cute.
- [54:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Little Havana here, everything.
- [54:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Guess what, Guess what. Cuba got big Havana. Yeah.
- [54:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, but you know what? Don't nobody want to be there. Now, that's a bad decision.
- [54:34]
Shannon Sharpe
They definitely don't want to be under that regime. But look, I get what you're saying, it's like, bro, but it's just like anything. I mean, some doctors, when you go to the combine, some doctors gonna say, hey, down the road, he might, I feel abnormal laxness in his knee. I feel abnormal laxness in his shoulder. Some guys might. Some doctors might say, nah, I don't see a problem. But here's the thing. You don't see a problem in two years in that guy's nick, you know, you out. You know you're gonna be out of a job, right?
- [55:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [55:08]
Shannon Sharpe
So that's why they err on the side of caution.
- [55:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. You know what? They err on the side of caution depending on who it is. They err on the side of caution depending on who the player is.
- [55:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Because, Ocho, you got to realize them basketball players guarantee you now that Joe will get hurt. Guess what? That 200 million, he gonna get all that?
- [55:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
That 300 million, Ocho, he gonna get all that.
- [55:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's the chance you have to take. That's the chance you have to take. Depending again, depending on who the players. I mean, look at, look at. No disrespect. No disrespect. You know, Kawhi Leonard.
- [55:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [55:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Paul George. I mean, there are a number of players that I can name that got the bag because of what they can do on the court. And unfortunately, due to unfortunate circumstances, they got hurt. There's nothing they could do about that.
- [55:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Just because somebody else is foolish, that don't mean I got to be foolish. Now, deep down inside, what you think they thinking about giving Joel Embiid when he had two years left, another three years at $193 million. So now he's got two, five years at $240 million coming. Right. How you think they're thinking about that?
- [56:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho, can I ask you a question?
- [56:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
When. When Joel Embiid is on the court.
- [56:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [56:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And he's feeling okay.
- [56:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [56:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know what? You know what? You get right.
- [56:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you to see what you just said before you said court. What, what four letter word did you use when right win. He's played 412 games. He's missed 405.
- [56:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Is there another replacement for Joel Embiid? Is there another Joel Embiid out here?
- [56:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Hell, I can't get Joel Embiid out there. I don't need a replacement. I just need him. I don't need a replacement. I need his ass out of the court. You talk about the replacement, but again.
- [57:01]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about too. Now we talk about a special player.
- [57:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [57:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That ain't it. You ain't just picking them off off the trees like that. That you will take the chance and pay him what he's getting paid despite the amount of games he missed. Why? Because he's special.
- [57:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [57:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you understand what you get when he is on the court. So you know what? We gonna pay him because we know we get when he is in the court, despite the injuries he may have.
- [57:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [57:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And that's the difference. And young bull that's in Charlotte, who had the opportunity to play, if he was, if he was anything like a Joy Embiid, he'd be with the Lakers. They would have definitely passed him on that test.
- [57:42]
Shannon Sharpe
But if you think about it, Ocho Philly gonna be in a big now. Good luck trying to get off Paul George. He just signed four years at 200 and whatever million dollars. Jordan B got 240, 260 coming. Yeah. Now what's the likelihood of these as these guys getting older?
- [58:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah.
- [58:03]
Shannon Sharpe
They get healthier.
- [58:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's tough. It's tough now. It's tough.
- [58:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah.
- [58:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And listen, as, as they get older, what you can do. I, I, I, I, I could be wrong. But don't have them on the ball as much, allowing them to. If I mean, as a player, I think you have to evolve where you don't need to touch the ball as much. Where you, you're not putting as much stress and work on yourself. I'm sure, I'm sure there's a way you could make it happen. You not the main focal point.
- [58:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, Paul George isn't the main focal point. He was supposed to be that third wheel. He was supposed to be Joel Embiid, Tyrese Maxey and Paul George. That's what it was supposed to be. But it looks like now it's Tyrese Maxey team and it's Tyrese Maxey, Joel Embiid. And Paul George. But Paul George has been nicked from the jump. Yeah. Joel Embiid. The problem that I got with Embiid, if you think about it, Ocho, he was. He got hurt at the end of the season, right? He was nicked during the postseason. You would have thought that. You know what? I'm gonna take my. You know what, guys? I know I promised you guys I was gonna come to the Olympics, but I gotta get healthy because the goat. If I'm Philly, I wouldn't let him play.
- [59:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
- [59:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Hell, no. Gold medal versus me trying to win a ring. Gold medal. Ring. Olympics don't pay no money. I appreciate, and I know Joel Embiid is extremely happy. He immigrated from Cameroon. Everything. So much of what he's been given from America. And he's grateful and he's thankful, and he should be. But at the end of the day, Ocho, the Olympics don't put 500 million in your pocket. The Philadelphia 76ers have.
- [59:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I got you. I got you.
- [59:47]
Shannon Sharpe
And so that's. That's just my thinking me, bro. Hey, I would love to, you know, be on that last ride, because what we had, the Bird Magic, Jordan, you had Steph Durant and Braun. That was. And to be a part of that and to win the gold. I watched that next place, that Netflix special. It was unbelievable. Following the Olympic team and guys trying to. And they got access to. You hear the Canadian team, and you see, not Lithuania, the Serbian team with Yoke and Bogdanovic, and you got the Americans. But no, no, no, bro.
- [60:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You.
- [60:24]
Shannon Sharpe
You. You. You. You compromised, right? The sixth season, Ocho, because he hasn't been healthy. Not one day since the season kicked off has Joel Embiid been healthy.
- [60:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn.
- [60:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. And it's. It's. It's. It. And I. You know, I feel bad for the 76ers. I. I really do, because they're doing everything they possibly can. Look, they got Ben Simmons. That didn't work out. I mean, whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. They had James Harden, and James Harden is like. He's the Harden of all. You know, he wanted to be there, but he wanted his money. He took a pay cut. Yeah, and that's what. That's what. That's the thing, Ocho. Stop taking pay cuts. Stop giving the team discounts.
- [61:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [61:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Cause they get you over the barrel, and then they like, well, we're not gonna pay you. Nah. James Harden, like, whoa, wait a minute, bro. I need that bread. So hopefully we'll see the volume.
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