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Nightcap - Hour 1: Wolves go up 3-1, Jayson Tatum injured, Mavs win NBA Draft Lottery
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Shannon Sharpe
The volume hello Ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Two teams are on the cusp of clinching. One did it at home, one did it on the road. Now one team can go home and clinch. The other team has to take their show on the road. Both can clinch. And two teams will be without their superstars we believe. Thank you for joining us again for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know me, I'm your favorite unc. Shannon Sharpe, my partner and co host the Liberty City legend Bingo Ring of Fame Artery Pro Bowler all probably that's Chad Oo Cinco Johnson. And joining us a couple of nights a week to talk all things basketball and everything in between, the Arkansas Little Rock native University of Arkansas alum ISO Joe Johnson. Joe, thanks for joining us again. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you. We thank each and every one of you. We know it's late on the east coast we but we really appreciate you joining us late all times. We can't thank you enough and supporting all things Shay Media and La Portier. Make sure you check out laportier. We do have it in stock. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. Remember is award winning the best tasting premium VSOP on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of its platform Shay, Shay Media and my clothing company 84. With 84 being spelled out, the link is pinned in the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone they're gone. So please grab yours while supplies last. Tickets for our Not Safe for Work tour are on sale eight stops. Baltimore, Philly, Charlotte, Louisiana, Miami, nyc, Chicago. We're going to close it out in Detroit. Tickets can be found@shay media.com tour get get your tickets now. Get a chance to see UN and oo. The Wolves take a commanding three one series lead against the warriors. And again it was the same two guys. Julius Randall had an outstanding night. 31 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 steal, 1 block. Ant man went crazy in the third quarter. He had 30 points, 54 rebounds, 4 assists and that was enough to push them past the Steph Currless Warriors. I don't know what's going on. I don't. I I don't know what happened with Jimmy Butler tonight. He, he knows nine shot attempts. ISO is not nearly enough. Kaminga came to play. Kaminga gave him 23 points off the bench. He was 6 of 13, 11 to 12 from the free throw line. Jimmy Butler nine field goal attempts. Buddy Hill had more field goal attempts. Pods had more field goal attempts. Draymond Green had more Field goal attempts with Steph is out. This is why you make the trade for Steph Curry. Jimmy Butler's supposed to win you one game minus Steph Curry. Ocho. Yeah, that's what's supposed to have happened. And right now, I don't know what's going on. Jimmy, maybe he has an injury, but nine field goal attempts? He wasn't aggressive at all. He was coming to a jump stop, passing out of it, and it did. I. I don't. Like I said, I don't know what's going on. Health wise, body wise. Maybe he got an injury that they're not reporting, but this effort tonight is unacceptable.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, to me, Uncle Ocho, he look horrible. He don't look healthy. You know what I mean? He don't look like he moving right out there. And like you said, it's just like a lot of the moves that he's making, they kind of that, you know, he can't get nothing from him. It's like he's looking to pass. He's not even to even be aggressive, to even score, because they definitely need him to put up points. But let's be honest, man, they. Them folks ain't got enough fire power to be messing with Minnesota. Not without. Without Curry.
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Shannon Sharpe
But here's the thing, though, Joe. Who is he gonna pass it to? Draymond. He gonna pass it to pods. He gonna pass it to Tyson. Tyson, Jackson, Davis. He gonna pass it to a loon. I'm just trying to figure out who is he gonna pass it to that can help him get points. Yeah.
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Joe Johnson
You know, if.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Go ahead, Ojo.
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Joe Johnson
Now, I'm just gonna say, if anything, Joe and Unk, I really think there's something wrong with Jimmy. We know what Jimmy could do when he takes the game over. And obviously trad understanding that Steph Curry's not playing. Jimmy's one that can. He can shoulder that load. He can put that team on his back. And the fact that he came out tonight and he wasn't as aggressive and assertive as he should be, and knowing that, listen, if we gonna score points, it got to come from somewhere, and it should start with me. I'm not gonna start the game facilitating. I'm not gonna pass the ball. I'm gonna do everything I can knowing that the one of the one individuals on the team right now that can put the ball on the floor and score from anyone in the court is me. I mean, you were expecting to be aggressive tonight. So I think there is some type of lingering issue or something going on.
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Shannon Sharpe
With It, Yeah, let's not speculate. Let's go with what we know.
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Joe Johnson
My bad, my bad.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because that's what you always tell me, say, oh, hey, it don't matter you out there on that field, hey, I expect the effort. And he was not aggressive. Kamingo was 11 to 12 from the free throw line. Jimmy Butler got to the line five times. That's not nearly aggressive enough. And like you said, I mean, he was getting. He was minus 30 and plus, minus. And remember the other night, Joe, in game three, it was a situation where the last eight minutes and 16 seconds, he didn't score a bucket. When the game, when the game really could have been, you know, going back and forth, it could have been teetering. That was the opportunity. Julius Randle has been great this playoff series. He had A career high 31 points. Julius Randle, 25 point playoff games. As a T. Wolf, he has three of those. As a Knick, he had one. I don't know what it is. Maybe he's more comfortable. Maybe he's. Maybe there's more of an opportunity. It's kind of hard, but all I know is he's playing outstanding. And this is what you expect from your 1,2 punch. You need your 12 punch to be that. And then I'm gonna get some production. Okay, let me see what I can do to help y' all out. McDaniels, I got you 10. Mike Conley gave you 11. Alexander Walker, I give you 13. Okay.
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Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Mike Conley gave you 11 tonight. And in a situation your two big guns go off. Well, you're minus one of your big guns with the Warriors. Now the other big gun needs to go off, and that's Jimmy Butler. He's looking to pass the ball to guys. That's not scores. I can see if he's passing the ball, if he's passing, if it's like Brunson who's passing the ball to Cat. Yeah, okay, I get that. Yeah, okay. Cat's an all star. Cat's an all NBA player. I get that. Who is Jimmy Butler passing the ball to that we know of as scores that we think of? Like, you know. Okay, I can see this.
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Joe Johnson
I mean, what? Outside, outside of Kaminga, man, that, that, that. That's damn near basically.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Maybe, maybe, maybe he was hoping for Buddy Hill to have another one of them games. Ah, ah. Hey, but listen.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you. Oh, you. What is up? My buddy. My.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They, they get along in the p.
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Shannon Sharpe
But you, But Joe, you talked about it. Joe, what they're doing, they're running him off that three point line. They're not letting him spot up and shoot now. So he's not a guy that's going to take you off the dribble. He's not Steph Curry, he's not Dame Lillard, he's not one of these three point shooters that can pop, pop, pop and get up, get, elevate the shot. He needs a catch and shoot.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, so. So like when all attention is on Steph, it's easy to play in that role. You know what I mean?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, absolutely.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You can just kind of hide or just, you know, kind of spectate to some, to some degree and the ball just kind of finds, you know. But I think we really have to give Minnesota the credit off at Ocho, especially Randall. I know Randall has heard the whispers. He's heard the whispers and I think just throughout this whole playoffs he's been, you know, he's been pretty consistent for them. He's been special for them against the Lakers and in this round, the warriors have no answer for him. And I appreciate it because when ant man doesn't really have it going or he takes the back seat to some degree, meaning, you know, he understands he's going to get doubled, so he just kind of absorbs it, throws Durandal and Randall kind of goes out and makes plays. He's not only scoring the ball, Ocho, he's distributing, you know, at, at a. At a nice factor, you know, for a guy his size. And he's taking advantage of the mismatches every time he making them pay it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, Drew Randall had to go early. He had like 19 points early, so he got it going early. Everybody took a back seat. But the problem that they have, the warriors have, excuse me, the go that t wolves can do is that they can. They don't have to double anybody. There's no step on the court, so I don't have to double anybody, so I don't have to scramble and guys wide open for wide open threes. Buddy Hill is not getting those wide open threes that he got in the last series and he got the first game when Steph Curry was in the game. He, he's not getting those right. And so with that being said, now everybody's locked up man to man. I mean, it's not like Draymond is a threat. So Rudy Gobert is not put in a situation that he needs somebody to come help. Okay, Drew Randall can take Jimmy Butler straight up or atmac and take him straight up and then you got McDaniel, and then you got Colin. So who do we have to help off of so somebody else o can get a wide open shot? Nobody.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because. Because they figured the warriors don't have nobody who could just consistently beat them. Yeah, Draymond gonna make a couple threes. We gonna live with that. That's not gonna beat us. That's not gonna beat us. He gonna make.
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Shannon Sharpe
What did I tell you? OO I say anytime, Draymond. Take the first two, three. Oh, we look good. Cause I like this. I like this. I like this kind of party.
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Joe Johnson
Hey, you know what's funny? It's amazing to see, obviously, with Steph being out and I'm sure there are other. And something that I didn't even know and I didn't learn until I started talking and watching basketball with you guys, you know, this season. And now even more has come to a head with understanding that most of the players on certain teams, they have weaknesses and they have strengths. So with a star like Stephanie now. Now it's coming to head. Well, I'm looking at. Now I'm noticing. Well, God damn. With Stephanie now I understand how much. How great a player he is, but I didn't know how great he was and how he made everything else work going on around him. Because now that he's out now you have others. The scoring is really has. The scoring is not coming from anywhere else. Jimmy Button is not playing like playoff Jimmy the Jimmy we used to seeing. And now you have the rest of the supporting cast. Nobody can do anything on their own. Their weaknesses. You know, in football, when you have 11 players on the field, most of the time, there's certain players you can hide what they don't do. Well.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Joe Johnson
Hide it for a little bit. Now, in this playoff atmosphere with Seth being out. Well, yeah, everybody being exposed for what they can do as opposed to what they can.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but that's the problem. It's like that in any playoff series in football, if you have. If you have a weakness, what do we. What does that team do? They exploit it. What. Whatever you're bad at. Yeah, whatever you're bad at, it come playoff time, it gets exploited.
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Joe Johnson
In fact, a small example for. For those in the chat that don't know basketball like these two do. Look at the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. The offensive line, the offensive line.
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Shannon Sharpe
Offensive line has been a problem all.
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Joe Johnson
Year, all season, Joe. And all of a sudden, they super bowl, and oh, my goodness, it comes to a head, and it's exposed tremendously.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yep. And that's what happened. And that now, Steph, you got to double step.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because Steph get the ball. We're going to try to run doubles at him. Okay? Now Buddy can catch and shoot. Okay? Now there are cracks in the defense. Jimmy can get to the lane. Either he going to lay the ball up or you're going to foul him. Well, with no Steph, we can play you honest. You ain't going nowhere. Because Jimmy, you the only one that can create a shot for yourself. You. Draymond is really not creating a shot for himself. Buddy Hill's not creating a shot for himself. I mean, who. Who's else in the starting line? Pod, he's okay. Tyson, Jackson, Davis, really. So Kaminga. Kaminga, But Kaminga, you know, Kaminga comes off the beach. He played 30 minutes. I'm not worried about Kavon Looney and all these other guys that got in and mop up time. Gary Payton ii, that's not what he does. He's a defender. He's a three and D guy. He can, you know, spot up his shoe, but he's not looking to take somebody off the dribble. That's Steph. But Steph is more dangerous because so much attention is focused on him. Man, somebody robbing you blind over here. You looking at Steph because you know what he's capable of. And they go, they robbing you blind right at your front door. They go to the front door. They got the tv, they got your refrigerator, your microwave. Hey, listen, you're steering your system and you worry about Steph. And Steph got his hands in his pocket the next day, you know, like, hey, who stole my ear? Hey, you'll be looking at me the whole while.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey. And that's. That's why Minnesota's playing the defense that they playing, you know, and switching, because it takes you out of your counters that you can do if you're not switching. So they switching, playing man up, man to man, defense, mano and mono. Let's see what you got in your bag. And we don't think you can score enough points for us to have to double anybody. And, you know, yeah, bro, they took care of. They took care of business. They came to Golden State, did what they were supposed to do. Obviously, you know, I know they want to get home court back, and with Steph being out, I mean, come on.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, we know he's going to be uphill climb Joe.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
With no Steph, it's just not because the T Wolves are too high power. When you got your two big guns Playing the way they've been playing this whole postseason. And then you get these other guys chipping in, it's going to be hard to beat them because it's hard for the warriors to come by points.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right? Because. So if I got two guys going off and we're going to talk about this a little. Lady, look at the Knicks. You see how the Knicks big guns went off? Okay, we gonna offset. We gonna offset JT we'll talk about him in a minute. We gonna offset JT we'll offset Derrick White. Okay, so Brunson go get his. And now Cat get his. And now you let OG get his. You let Mikael Bridges get his. You can't overcome that. So now you got Drew Randall and what you call him combining for 61. Okay, I need Jimmy to at least give me 30. The F35.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
So now. Now, if he give me that. These other guys chipping in, that helps. But with all the. The leading score. Kaminga had to lose his leading score. He had 23. But then I got my starters, got 14 5, 14, 13, 11. If you add all that up together, that ain't 60. And then. And then by the time I get that 13 from Nikhil Alexander Walker, and I get that limb from Conlon, I get that 10 from McDaniels, it's a round. That's your game. Look, they put up an effort and people like, but, man, this was a close game. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But what we do see in this postseason, you gotta be healthy. That's why I say the west so thick, they gonna beat each other up. The east thick over there, they gonna beat each other up. So whoever come out of each conference, man, you gotta hope you're healthy.
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Shannon Sharpe
Know what you call them? Hoping the Knicks make the finals. Anybody else making the fight? Well, the Celtics not making it, but anyway, the Knicks because I don't know if there's anybody on the West. On the West OKC don't got no following, ain't got no national following. The Ant Man. Ant man might bring some draw, but you need the Knicks.
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Joe Johnson
Yeah, hold on.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ain't nobody else on. I mean it really. Indiana.
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Joe Johnson
Hold on.
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Shannon Sharpe
You don't see them in the finals. You know what that is Joe, you saw him in the finals. You remember?
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Joe Johnson
Hold on.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Even with you talking about back in.
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Shannon Sharpe
The day with Shaq and Kobe. So you and so. And think about it. So you got to have that, that. That domino on the other side. Lakers, Shaq and Kobe. You got the Knicks, New York, New York.
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Joe Johnson
Hey, it's funny. It sound like. Sound like the fat lady singing, huh? I mean, both, you know, your tune done changed now. Cause listen, when before the series started, I asked y' all who y' all had. Y' all told me Celtics. All of a sudden, now you're gonna win the series?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's some discrepancies. It's some discrepancies in the series, Ocho.
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Joe Johnson
That'S what it was.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's some things that have transpired. Hey, look, allow me to write the B roll. But, man, listen.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I told you.
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Joe Johnson
I told you. Sometimes y' all gotta listen to me when I.
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Shannon Sharpe
When I.
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Joe Johnson
When I tell you things, you know, I understand you're the expert. You played at the highest level. You've been doing it all your life since you was four years old, Unc. You know, basketball, in and out like the palm of your goddamn hand. But there's something about me and my ability to tell the future despite Knicks being the underdog. It's something about that goddamn big body, Brunson. Listen, I just heard today, and I didn't even know I asked. Listen, I tweeted, does Jalen Brunson have a supermax deal? And everybody told me, listen, Young Bull was a class act. Decided to take a hometown discount, a friendly discount, so they could put a team around him and get some of his boys in here from Villanova. And they out there cutting the food now, I don't know, because the owner named James Dolan. Right, James Dolan.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Joe Johnson
I know a lot of people got a lot, a lot to say about him, but if I was on me and how I would move, whatever that supermax would be would be. I'm not gonna wait. I'm gonna pay him under the table. But what I'm getting for what I'm getting in this post.
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Shannon Sharpe
Nah, don't do. Don't pay that on the table. The last team to try to pay somebody on the table, David Stern, put a penalty on him so hard, it got KG up out of Minnesota. They tried to pay Joe. They tried to play Joe Smith.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
He took three first round draft picks. It crippled him. Wait, don't do that.
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Joe Johnson
You can't.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, no. Hell no. He'll die.
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Joe Johnson
Hey, listen, listen.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's like the death penalty in college like they gave SMU they put the death penalty on.
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Joe Johnson
Listen, I understand what I'm saying and Joe but if you're looking with Brunson and Beta Mallou not just doing forget just the playoffs. I'm talking about for helping the Knicks get from where they were from the entirety of the season to get the point to I think nobody even gave them a chance to win this series to being up three one and Jalen Brunson having the night tonight. Come on now. 39, 40, 14 for 25. Three fade. I mean what three fade from three. Seven for nine from the free throw when.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, let's talk about this. Let's talk about this.
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Joe Johnson
I'm finna get to the spot and he finna get to a spot and that that midi rain Joe whether he want to go underhand. What do you want to pull up? Ain't nothing stopping him Every time y' all told me Drew Holiday was the one.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh let, let, let's, let's get to it. The Knicks take a 31 lead against Boston. Draylon Brunson dropped 39 against the Knicks to win at home. They take a commanding 31 semi semi 31 series lead in the east semis. Brunson has 102 fourth quarter points through 10 games of the playoffs, joining Kobe Bryant in 2001 and 2003 as the only players with 100 fourth quarter points. In his first 10 games of a playoff run he got contributions. Carl Anthony Towns had 23 and 11. Mikhail Bridges was 237 and four steals. OG Anunoby had 20 points with four made threes. Mikhail Bridges the first two quarters combined. If you go look at the series, he has the first, second and third quarter combined. He has 28 points in the fourth quarter. He had 26. That's clutch. Jason Tatum was having a night of nights before he goes down. We don't want to speculate but it did not look good. We'll see. They gonn get an MRI tomorrow but when you crumble like that and he was wailing, he was, you know, he was crying and he had they walk, you know, they got him back, they helped him off the court and when they got him back, got him back to the locker room, they checking him in the tunnel. They got him in a wheelchair. So we think something seriously is wrong. But let's wait for the mi and I don't want to put that into the air. Knock on wood. Hopefully everything turns out okay. But he had a night. He had it going 42 points, 8 rebounds, 4 steals, 1, 4 assists, 2 blocks, 7 made threes. He got help from his guy. Derrick White was 6 of 12, 6 of 11 from 3, 5 and 7 from the free throw line. But Jaylen Brown's got to be better. Jaylen Brown's got to be better. He's shooting 38% from the. For Joe and Oo. He's shooting 22% from the three. That's not good enough. You are a max player. You got to play like it. Jaylen Brown is 29 of 77 from the floor. He's 7 of 31 from the 3. He has 14 turnovers with 13 assists. That's not good enough. And it was his turnover. Not that it. You know, it was a turnover, but Tatum tried to get the ball and he crumbled to the ground. Yeah, if it. It does look, the injury doesn't look good now, who knows? We know Tatum can catch fire, and he had it going in the fourth quarter. But the way the Knicks were playing, the way Brunson and Mikhail Bridges couldn't miss, I don't know if even when Tatum was in the game, they was going to win that game. Considering what you call win. Got 37 in the third. They got 70 points in the second half.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
When Tatum went down, I think that he was already losing the game even though he was playing.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think they were down by five.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, they had got down by five. The Knicks, just gritty, man. They've been like that, you know, for quite some time, and they gritted out. They've been gritting out, you know, playoff wins throughout this whole postseason. Nah, we. We didn't expect. I'm gonna be honest. We. A lot of us didn't expect for them to win this series. They won the first two, then they opened our eyes. But, man, when you have injuries of, like, it's gonna be hard for Boston to be able to compete with these.
- [25:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Dudes, they not gonna compete, not without Jayson Tatum. And see, Joe, that's why you take care of business the first two games, because maybe you can win a game. You. Maybe you can win one game without Jason Tatum. You're not f to beat the Knicks three times without Jason Tatum. They got no contributions tonight from Al Horford and Holiday. They got nine points combined between them now.
- [26:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And they not, excuse me, on the flip. They like Holiday, not aggressive like they playing almost 35 and 40 minutes, and they shooting two times, five times, three for seven. Like, you got. You got to get more production from those guys, man. Offensively, you know, it's just somebody has to pick it up.
- [26:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but it's hard to be aggressive when you jacking up threes. They shot 48 threes. So how aggressive are you going to be if you're shooting that many threes? Because clearly you're not driving the basketball. You're not trying to get to the rim. Because, look, Jason Tatum had 42. He had three or three from the free throw line. Al Horford shot two free throws. Holiday didn't shoot any. Derrick White shot seven. Jalen Brown shot six. Pozinga shot six. So when you jacking up three, Joe, I mean, I ain't fitting to fire you on no 3, man. Look, even though they did foul Derrick.
- [27:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
White once, as I'm watching the game, I seen Tatum get to the mid range a few times. He made a few minutes jumpers. They kind of going. I seen him make a few middies. Then he came down and made like two or three threes in a row. I said, oh, Lord.
- [27:13]
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [27:13]
Shannon Sharpe
So you know what that. So you know what that means, Joe?
- [27:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. For him to shoot 16 threes, RK Ocho, that's a lot of threes for one person, man. I know he had it going. He was 7 for 16, but I don't. I mean, that's too many for me. I feel like him and Brown had the advantage throughout the whole series and using their big bodies to create space for get fouls, make plays not only for themselves, but for them team, for their teammates. I thought they had been doing a pretty good job at that, but they look pretty stagnant out there. It's just like, your turn, my turn. I think that's kind of why, like, Al and Holiday hadn't really got involved because they switching to pick and rolls. New York, like, we not letting you throw back the aisle. So he can just shoot scot free jumpers.
- [27:54]
Shannon Sharpe
We gonna.
- [27:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Y' all got to play one on one. It's got ISO basketball this. Who can get a bucket? Yeah, Tatum had it going, but damn, when he went down, bro, I just. I just put my head down, man.
- [28:04]
Joe Johnson
Like, oh, listen, I'm. I'm not a doctor. I'm not here to assess anything. But again, looking at a player when he goes down and being able to assess what it is.
- [28:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Non contact.
- [28:15]
Joe Johnson
Yeah, non. Listen, not only was it non contact, I was able to do the same thing with Steph. I told you exactly what it was. And the reports came out the following morning. It was the exact same thing it was with this one. I'M gonna hope for the best. I'm hoping the best because you know anytime you have a non. Non contact injury with a person in, a player like that is crying and wailing around, you already know what that is. I'm not gonna say it in because I'm wishing for the best for him. But listen, Jalen Tatum was on fire tonight, bro. He was seven for 16. Oh, yeah, you could buy.
- [28:44]
Shannon Sharpe
You could buy Jalen and you try to brown the Tatum together. Jaylah Brown.
- [28:49]
Joe Johnson
I'm talking so goddamn fast. My bad, my bad.
- [28:51]
Shannon Sharpe
You good, you good. We know what you meant. Yeah.
- [28:53]
Joe Johnson
Jason Tatum had had a hell of a night today. He had. But the goddamn Knicks, collectively as a group, they shot 54% from the field, right? A respectable 5% from three. And again, I know I said it already, but that Jalen Brunson, bro, Come on, man. Hey, Joe. Whatever you want to do, Joe. When it's time for a three, he gonna get to you. When he got to get to the bucket in the mid range and pull up, he gonna get to you. When he got. He uses goddamn body so well, Joe.
- [29:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you do, bro.
- [29:26]
Joe Johnson
All type of different angles, man. Like they got to pay. Okay, let me stop. Let me stop.
- [29:32]
Shannon Sharpe
But the thing is, Joe, I watched him in college at Villanova.
- [29:35]
Joe Johnson
He was the same way.
- [29:38]
Shannon Sharpe
He could get his shot. He wasn't this. And then I watched him. Cause he go to the Mavs, and sometimes what he needed was his own team. He was never gonna be able to be this with Luka. Cause Luka's gonna have the ball. He needs the ball. Sometimes a man needs his own home. He needs his own place to call home. That is New York.
- [29:59]
Joe Johnson
Hey. What you.
- [30:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Did you.
- [30:01]
Joe Johnson
Did you just hear that goddamn bar? You're just. Hold on, man.
- [30:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey.
- [30:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Cause he wasn't. He wasn't going to be that in Dallas. He could only. He was only going to be so much. Cause Lucas got the ball, he needs the ball.
- [30:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you know what? And I'm not this. It fits him too. They built this team around him. They did. I know they had. They've had highs and lows, but for the most part, he's been consistent. And the thing that I like about him, he's so crafty, especially in like the pick and rolls, even in the post up because he's not the. He's not the most athletic guy. You know, it's all angles and, you know, hitches, hesitations, keeping you off balance. It's almost like a boxer, you know what I mean? You throwing Jabs, you, haymakers, all that. And.
- [30:47]
Shannon Sharpe
You know what he can do? He can create a shot.
- [30:49]
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [30:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. There are very few guys that can. I mean, from any angle, he can create a shot. I mean, he. I mean, and he's a. And for his size. And I've been next to him. I've talked to him before and seen him in person. The way he can create separation to get that turnaround off. That midi is incredible for someone his size. But if you look at his body, he can absorb contact, play through it, and get a one as good as anybody his size I've ever seen. Go ahead, Ocho. Yeah.
- [31:19]
Joe Johnson
I don't mean the disrupt. And you got away from it a little bit. I had to wear my notepad. But I need you to bring that back to me one more time, because that was a bar. It was a bar. You didn't even realize it was a bar. You said about Jalen Rustin not being able to Luca on the mask, but needed a what?
- [31:33]
Shannon Sharpe
He needed his own home.
- [31:35]
Joe Johnson
That's because that's the same passion and energy you said it with the first time.
- [31:39]
Shannon Sharpe
But I'm saying, because if you look at it. If you go back and look at it before, they didn't. They didn't give him. Because a year earlier, they could have extended the mocho, and they didn't. So now it comes time, and it's like, okay, we got you now. No, no, you don't. No, you don't now, because I already know somebody down here they already got 100 meals for. So that 55. I would have taken that last year. Right. I ain't gonna take it now. Yeah. And so now he's like, okay, I'm in somebody else ojo. It's like when you go to your boyhouse, you comfortable, but ain't no place like your home. Cause now you can get ready. Hey, you want to walk around with your shirt off? You want to walk around buttball? You can do all of that because that's your home. You can't do that in someone else's home. So now msg, that's his home, and he acts accordingly. If you look at the way he plays. Look at when Luke that last year he was there, and I think they went to the Western Conference finals. He was doing it. Yeah, he's doing now. The only difference is he didn't have the minutes that allow him to showcase what he's doing. He wasn't playing? No. What did he play tonight? Brunson played 40 minutes. They gave him 30, 32, maybe. But now he gets to take the lion's share of the minutes. 14 to 25, 4 8, 7 to 9. I know he mad. He mad cause he missed that first free throw. Cause he wanted a 40 ball. That's what he wanted. He wanted. He wanted a 40 spot. He wanted that 40.
- [33:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Water.
- [33:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. But Ocho, looking at. I mean, looking at him play and looking at what he was with Dallas, I didn't see this. I didn't. I was like, damn. Cause I remember him last year, and he was sensational. Luke would go to the bench, and it was like they didn't miss a beat. So I thought he could be good, but not this.
- [33:26]
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [33:27]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know if anybody thought this. He did. He thought this. I'm sure he believed in his own ability. But sometimes. Ocho, I can believe all I want to, but if I don't get an opportunity to showcase it, what can I do? Right? Right.
- [33:40]
Joe Johnson
Listen, he's doing. He's. I don't know how to explain it. On what he's been able to do, not just for New York in general, the fans in general. Stephen A. I know Stephen A. Gonna be hollering, but to not only have them in contention and playing well during the regular season, but to be pushing them through in the postseason, especially the game of this magnitude against a team that was the champions last year and were damn near crowned to be the champions this year and be up 3:1, and him leading at the forefront of everything. And when it's time to get it done, I mean, mister. Mr. Clutch.
- [34:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Mr. Clutch.
- [34:24]
Joe Johnson
Every time we need a shot. I got you.
- [34:27]
Shannon Sharpe
He's been the best player in this series.
- [34:30]
Joe Johnson
I got you.
- [34:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Look, I understand what's on the other side, Ocho. And that's not a knock. That's not a knock on Tatum or Brown. But Jalen Brunson has been the best player in this series. And this is why it's so hard to repeat. You see, everybody thought it was a foregone conclusion they wanted going away last year, Ocho, and they brought everybody back and everybody. All the key contributors, basically. 28 or under. Yeah. And look. And just like that. So now you have a healthy level of respect for teams that year in and year. Now you get an opportunity. Now, can you appreciate what LeBron did? Eight straight finals. Eight straight. Eight straight. Not one, not two, not three, not four, not five, not six, not seven. Eight straight finals. You see how hard it is? Because think about it. That's. Year after year, you play LeBron's playing 70 games a year.
- [35:21]
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [35:21]
Shannon Sharpe
And now you're playing. You got to win four games in the first round. So you might be playing five, six, seven games. Five, six, seven games. 5, 6, 7 games. Then you go to the finals.
- [35:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, it's tough, man. You think about the teams that beat three people. Even like the Bulls, even the Lakers. The Bull, the Lakers, like three pe. That's crazy.
- [35:41]
Shannon Sharpe
But that's why. That's why it's so hard in football, Ocho. Think about it. Now you're playing 17 games. Okay, you only playing three preseason, but you play 17 games now. You play three playoff games every year.
- [35:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [35:57]
Shannon Sharpe
You don't play half a season. If you three like the Chiefs, they've already played half a season and just did the postseason. Yeah, that catches up with you. Because guess what? By everybody else give their body six weeks to recover. You still going. You're six weeks to recover. You try to take six weeks, Ocho, you damn near back in Medicare. You in OT 80s. Everybody else that got their body to recover, old children going on vacation. You're like, baby, your girl, your wife probably say, hey, babe, when we going on vacation? I sure hope you enjoyed the Super Bowl. Cause that was your vacation. And that's the thing. It's so grueling on your body. You play and think about it. Ocho not and Joe. They playing back to back. They play Monday, they play Wednesday, they play Friday, they play Sunday.
- [36:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you only get a day in between. That's not a lot of risk when you playing 40 minutes a night. You know what I mean?
- [36:51]
Albertsons/Safeway Representative
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- [36:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hey, but look, we. We got to get a nick say credit.
- [36:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they ball it, the British. Because I thought. I thought he was gonna grind them to the. I thought he was gonna grind them to the nubs. Mikhail Bridges, 44 minutes. OG 40 minutes. Cat, 36 minutes. Brunson, 40 minutes. Hart, 30 minutes. Now, Hart and Cat only played the minutes they played. Cause they were in foul trouble. Had they not been in foul trouble, they ass would have been in there 40 minutes.
- [37:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, look, if. If OG and Bridges gonna play like this and be efficient, you're not gonna be able to beat the Knicks. Not with Brunson and Cat playing the way they playing. And you add them two in. See, that's why they got them two to come over there. Because they needed them to deal with Tatum and Brown.
- [37:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [37:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And even before Tatum's injury, they had been doing a pretty good job.
- [37:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Look, if he gonna shoot like he did, look, we know Tatum can catch fire. And he can go give you a 40 piece. Yeah, he know you. You know that you just got. Hey, hey. You just gotta grit your teeth and bear asa. Hey, he making shots. Cole. Don't look over here. Hell, I'm looking. I'm frustrated just like you. I see what the hell he doing.
- [37:55]
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey.
- [37:57]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, look at some of those. 30 foot he's hitting. Step back, 30 foot overcap. What the hell you want me to do?
- [38:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he ain't got it going. He see a couple go in.
- [38:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [38:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. It was a wrap.
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Degree Representative
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Shannon Sharpe
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Albertsons/Safeway Representative
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Shannon Sharpe
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- [41:52]
Joe Johnson
It ain't happening. It ain't.
- [41:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Not unless somebody have. Not unless somebody step up and just have an out of body. Like you gonna need JB to be awesome. Like he gonna almost need the average about 35 from here on out. And then you hope somebody come along with him. And you know, Derrick White can probably stay consistent at the way he's been playing. I think he's been. He's been pretty good for him. But, man, they gonna need some guys to really step up Bro. Just to even get themselves a chance at home next game. Cause I'm sure the Knicks wanna close em out.
- [42:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. I don't leave anything to chance because guess what? I step on a. I shoot a jump shot and I come down on somebody's ankle. You see what I'm saying? Don't.
- [42:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yo.
- [42:31]
Lowe's Representative
Yeah.
- [42:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Somebody said I bang knees with somebody. No, no, no, no. I'm finna get y' all ass up out of here. I'm going home to rest. Yeah, y' all finna let. Yay. Get your coat, your brim and get on out of this gym. Get your coat, your hat and leave.
- [42:47]
Joe Johnson
I don't mean to be looking towards the future. Right. Let's say the Knicks come up out of this, which they probably are going to do.
- [42:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [42:53]
Joe Johnson
Who we have the Knicks facing?
- [42:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Pacers.
- [42:58]
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [42:58]
Shannon Sharpe
That's going to be a good series. I can see that series going seven games.
- [43:01]
Joe Johnson
Okay. Okay.
- [43:04]
Shannon Sharpe
The Pacers beat them. The Pacers beat them last year. Beat them in MSG game seven. Brunson didn't have his best day. And everything the Pacers was throwing up was going in. And sometimes you have it like that. You throw it up, it go in and you're like, damn, can y' all miss? But I agree with you. If you gonna get 23 from bridges, 20 from O.G. hold on. Bridges shot 11 of 21. Yeah. If O.G. was 8 or 14, Cat, you see the difference? Cat was 11 to 15. He only attempted three threes. You see the difference? You see when they get his big ass down on that block, Ocho Joe, what I tell you when he get down there on the block if. Stop trying to outshoot Dirk. I don't care if you can shoot better than dirt. Yeah. You're not going to go to the championship playing like that. Get your big butt down there and punish him on the block. He did that. Bronson was 14 or 25. If you tell me they're going to get 23, 20, 23, 39.
- [44:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, it was going to be hard for Boston to win that game if you knew they coming into it.
- [44:04]
Shannon Sharpe
But for sure, they shot 54. They shot 54% from the floor in. Boston is a very good defensive team. Yeah. They got Derrick White that can fit. They got a Holiday that can defend. They got Brown that can defend. They got Horford that could defend. They got defenders.
- [44:20]
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [44:21]
Shannon Sharpe
And they shot 54% against that team. That's crazy, because Boston is another team that switches everything.
- [44:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Yeah. Hey, look, the Knicks been. They've been grinding Ocho you see how they grind wins out. Y' all imagine what New York would be like if them dudes make it to the finals, let alone if they even just get out this series.
- [44:41]
Joe Johnson
Hey, it's gonna be crazy.
- [44:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Matter of fact, man, I could, I, I. Hey, man, can you imagine what them tickets gonna cost courtside and MSG? Them tickets probably started about 30,000 more.
- [44:50]
Joe Johnson
More than the Lakers?
- [44:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [44:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [44:56]
Shannon Sharpe
And the Lakers, they might start at 50, 50. Cause the Lakers for NBA Finals. The Lakers right now. Oh, that's. Oh, with Luka and LeBron. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You're starting at 30, 35. And the closer you get to center court, them tickets might be a hundred thousand.
- [45:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, so we're gonna be watching right here on the couch?
- [45:14]
Shannon Sharpe
For sure. Matter of fact, for sure. Absolutely, Absolutely.
- [45:17]
Joe Johnson
I'm gonna give you, I'm give you a better scenario, you know, wordplay as far as where we gonna be watching it based on them. I'm gonna be watching on my property.
- [45:32]
Shannon Sharpe
I will be. I would be. I'm gonna be eating some chips. I'm gonna be some Doritos. Some chips here, some kind of chips, and right here drinking ginger ale. Ain't no way I've been, like I said, I've been to an NBA Finals game. I mean, like, that was on my bucket list to, like, do, like. I still gotta go to Wimbledon. I want to go to the Daytona 500 or the Indy 500. I've been to a US Open, I've been to a Super bowl, been to a World Series, certain events that I got bucket list. You know what I'm saying, Ocho?
- [46:03]
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [46:03]
Shannon Sharpe
But Wimbledon will probably be on my bucket list. But 40, $50,000 for a ticket.
- [46:10]
Joe Johnson
Who, Lord, listen. And out of everything you name, obviously, I've been to Wimbledon, I've been to the US Open, you know, I could tell you probably gonna like the most because it's something that I used to be in that got that goddamn Daytona 500. Yeah, I know when you, when, when people talk about it, all they say is, oh, and just cars going in a circle. But when you get yourself inside that atmosphere and you sit in them stands, you get your food, you get your beer, you get your hot dog and whatever, whatever condiments you might need, and them cars crank up on and you can feel.
- [46:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. Ain't Nothing like the 800 horsepower, boy.
- [46:48]
Joe Johnson
Oh, my God. Ain't nothing like it. Ain't nothing like it. And a lot of people, you know, they trash NASCAR because of, you know, Whatever it may be. But sometimes you put all that stuff aside and you go in there, sometimes.
- [46:59]
Shannon Sharpe
You gotta go see it for yourself.
- [47:03]
Joe Johnson
Ain't nothing like it. I'm telling you.
- [47:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's.
- [47:04]
Joe Johnson
That's one of the. One of the most amazing first dates you can take someone on if it's something that you're not used to doing.
- [47:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you better hope she don't like to talk because you ain't gonna hear a damn thing. She said she ain't gonna hear a damn thing. You say nothing. New car so damn lie with it all bad. Look here, I was at Watkins Glen and you talking about, gentlemen, start your engine. And boy, they start. Whoo. Okay.
- [47:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
- [47:36]
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [47:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey. And they take off and they going like this and it's. Hey, get them. Hey, hey, Joe. Ain't nothing like it, man. Ain't nothing like it. But I'm going to the Daytona. I'm gonna go to the Daytona. I. I'm gonna see Day Duffy. That's on my bucket list. But I don't know. I. In order to. In order to extend this series, Joe, what do the Celtics have to do in order to extend this series to a game six and come back to Madison Square Garden?
- [48:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, they're gonna have to lay it on the line. They're gonna have to lay it all out there as far as winning. Like, they're gonna have to have guys step up and make plays maybe who aren't accustomed to. But I think. I think Holiday is capable of having a big game. I think.
- [48:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He can get you 20.
- [48:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How is capable of having a solid game? Double, double. You just gonna need JB to kind of be special man like he or Peyton Pritchard to come in and get off. But the way.
- [48:37]
Shannon Sharpe
But you know what's been hurting him, Joe? What? Pozingas hadn't give him ish.
- [48:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because he don't look healthy neither. He. He. He don't look like he moving good out there neither. Yeah, he ain't since even since last ass finals run. You know what I mean? So like it's kind of.
- [48:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [48:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Tampered with him throughout the entire season.
- [48:54]
Joe Johnson
So he had a knee injury, right? Was it a knee or ankle?
- [48:59]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know what he had.
- [49:00]
Joe Johnson
He was out for a while and ever since he.
- [49:03]
Shannon Sharpe
But he needed to get it right in order for them to have a chance. He's going to have to play better than what he's been playing. 20 minutes, four, 10, two or seven from three point line. That ain't nearly enough. That ain't good enough. Yeah, no, let me take that back. He owe a two from the three point line, three or six from the free throw line, two or six from the floor. 24 minutes, seven points. Nah, bro.
- [49:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, they gonna need somebody to step up and play big, but I think New York, they own to em. They like, okay, it's our chance. They probably could go and get this over with, maybe get a couple days to rest.
- [49:39]
Shannon Sharpe
They had a 14 point lead and the Knicks trimmed it. Yeah, just like that.
- [49:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's why when I be watching, I watch the Celtics, they be getting off to them hot starts. Even though Tatum was hot in that first quarter, I was thinking like, damn, it's gonna be hard to sustain this, you know what I mean? It's almost like it's set up for us to sit back and watch and be like, okay, we know the Knicks gonna make a comeback at some point, you know what I mean? And it seemed like it just kind of starts to trickle down. Whether they just start having turnovers or missed shots or just ill advice.
- [50:07]
Shannon Sharpe
They read it. They read. They buried reckless with the basketball. Oh, man, they very reckless with it.
- [50:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ill advised, three point shots. That really starts the fast breaks. And they.
- [50:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. I mean, there was a situation. They were down and that corner, three. I'm like, Derrick White, you don't need to take that, bro. It's okay, it's okay. You don't have to take a three. And they took that. And it's like, I agree with you, Joe. I don't really know what they can do outside of JB giving you a 40 piece. Derrick White coming along with the high 20s and somebody else tagging along for maybe a mid 20. Other than that, I just, I just don't see it. They're getting killed on the glass. Yeah, I mean, they getting killed on the glass. Plus 12. Knicks were plus 12 again, plus six on the offensive glass, which means create second chance points. And the Knicks only shot 12 free throws.
- [51:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But man, in the second half, especially down the stretch in the fourth quarter, I mean, in the fourth quarter of the game, the Knicks just impose. They will, Uncle Ocho. They, you know, they gonna fight you all game, bro. And it's the last seven, eight minutes of the game or in the quarter, you know what I mean? And they, yeah, they just, they just basically impose. They will on these dudes. I think, you know, I got, I, I think the Knicks got something special in for us, man. The way they play.
- [51:29]
Shannon Sharpe
And how many, how many times we see Mikhail Bridges late in the Shot clock hit that fade away, man, every. I mean at least four. I mean, how many points he have in the fourth quarter?
- [51:40]
Joe Johnson
Hey, he did about three or four times in the paint. Three, four times in the pain. Lean back with it like he was Jordan.
- [51:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, because normally when he gets the ball, it's probably like four or five seconds left. So he got. Oh, yeah, he got just enough time to get in his bag and get him one off real quick. Because ain't nobody, they not gonna double him. Cause they so tight on Brunson and all these other dudes. So the floor is kind of wide open for him to kind of, you know, playmaking score. But yeah, I thought Bridges huge, man. He was huge.
- [52:08]
Shannon Sharpe
He was. He was again in the fourth quarter. Remember that game too. He had 14 points. He had zero points the first three quarters and didn't have 14 in the fourth 10. He had 10 fourth quarter, 10 fourth quarter points today. Big bucket after big bucket after big bucket.
- [52:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn. And you, you the Knicks, you want him being aggressive like that? 21, 21 attempts. Like you want him to come out and be aggressive and make plays. Take something just fresh out Brunson and Cat, you know, so things can kind of open up. I thought he's. I think he's been doing a pretty good job, you know, especially today.
- [52:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he was five or six from the floor in the fourth quarter with 10 points. And look, if you, if you don't have a 20 point, even if you got a 24 lead on them in the fourth quarter, they gonna cut it down. Yeah, they gonna cut it down to 10 or 12.
- [52:57]
Joe Johnson
They coming.
- [52:59]
Shannon Sharpe
It's just a. It's just a matter of time. But our thoughts go out to Jayson Tatum. Man, I know a Celtics fan. We're sorry. This injury does not look good. We don't want to speculate to what it is, but we saw a guy go down with a non contact injury and he grabbed his ankle.
- [53:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, worming. That's what got me. I'm like, man, he can't put no.
- [53:22]
Shannon Sharpe
He knew because he done heard everybody say what it felt like and he felt that very thing. Yeah. And we've seen it enough, guys all of a sudden take off. It just crumbled to the ground.
- [53:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We're going to do me some cat raises tonight just because of that. Ah.
- [53:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Nico back. Oh, Nico. Oh, Nico Harrison, he ain't good. He back in good grace.
- [53:50]
Joe Johnson
Hey. Hey. Listen.
- [53:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think.
- [53:55]
Joe Johnson
I think all this was pre playing, Joe. I think all this will be playing. I know they talk about lottery and, oh, you lucky. And who gets the number one pick? I think all this. All this was done purposely.
- [54:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So basically, what you saying is, you saying they. Since. Since they done send Luke out there to la, they done made it to okay, We. We gonna. We gonna get a mass. Number one pick. That's what you think.
- [54:18]
Joe Johnson
They know they. Man, come on. You see.
- [54:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, nah, that's me. That's Milwaukee's pick. I want Luke. I want y' all.
- [54:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, look. Hey, look. That's exactly what I'm gonna ask y' all. So what do we do with this number one pick out of Dallas? Got. Do we.
- [54:31]
Joe Johnson
Huh?
- [54:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Do we go out? You know?
- [54:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Today's NBA lottery did not help the NBA rig conspiracy theories. The Mavericks had a 1.8% chance of landing the number one overall pick. They had the four. They're the fourth longest odds ever to get the number one overall pick. The number, number two, spurs, number three, Sixes, number four, Hornets, number five, Jazz. I'm glad Washington and all those other teams that tank, you're still dying at the bottom. That's what you get. That's what you get. Derrick Rose. Check this out. In 2008, Derrick Rose going to his hometown Chicago Bulls, he had a 1.7% chance. The 2011, the Cavaliers getting number one picks after LeBron left. Prior. Because think about it. When LeBron left, they got the number one pick like, three, four years in a row. Yeah, they got. They got Kyrie, they got Wiggins, they got Benny. They got three of them. In 2012, the Pelicans got the number one overall pick after Chris Paul leaves, you know, and that's when they vetoed that trade, wasn't it? Oh. In 2014, the Cavaliers got the number one pick to give them assets needed to bring Kevin Love to Cleveland. And the Pelicans got the number one pick after Anthony Davis demands a trade. In 2025, the Mavericks get the number one pick after trading Luke at the trade deadline. Joe. Now, the first time they thought the lottery was rigged in 1985 was the first time they had a lottery. And the Knicks got Patrick, so they swore with rigged.
- [56:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So. So y' all think it's rigged? I don't think it's rig, man. It's basketball, guys, what I'm thinking, what I'm thinking is, like, what. What are they gonna do with this number one pick? Are they gonna package this and go get kd?
- [56:26]
Joe Johnson
No, I already. Listen, I already told.
- [56:28]
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no, no. Not Katie Giannis. I'm not giving no no, no, no, no, no, no. Giannis, you go to give trade that number one. But I don't. I don't. I don't know if that's enough because now the money got a match.
- [56:42]
Joe Johnson
I already told y' all. Why y' all talk about Gianna's going to Dallas. And I already told you where Giannis is going. He says he San Antonio. Listen to me. Yana says he wants to play in the state with no tax.
- [56:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What do you think? Dallas, Texas.
- [56:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Dallas is no state tax. You know, Texas, Dallas, Houston.
- [57:02]
Joe Johnson
He wants to come to Miami. Ain't nobody here.
- [57:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you said. You said you want to play in a state that don't have state taxes. Okay.
- [57:07]
Joe Johnson
But you know what I'm leaning towards? You know what I'm leaning towards? Dallas is 80 in Kyrie's team.
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Shannon Sharpe
Check this out. Ocho. For the first time in his career, Giannis is open minded about playing for another team. According to Shams, Giannis wants no income tax and a top player to help him. San Antonio has 36 future draft picks over the next seven years in one of the cleanest salary sheets in the NBA. Oh, that number two pick. Oh, and he got Wemby. Ooh, and he got Stefon Castle, rookie of the year. And they got a smorgasbord. 36 picks over seven years. Now, I don't know, you know, my math ain't that good, but that's about five picks a year if you, you protract it.
- [60:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So, so I get.
- [60:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I give you the number two pick in the draft. I'll give you Vassal. I'll give you Keldon Johnson. I'll give you four. I'll give you four first round picks and two pick swaps. Come on with it.
- [60:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now you say it's hard to turn down.
- [60:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, they ain't turning nothing down.
- [60:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But he call him for who? For who you saying? The Spurs.
- [60:51]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna give you the spurs got the number two pick. I'm gonna give you him. I'll give you four future first round picks. Unprotected. I'll also give you two pick swaps. I'll give you Vassal and I'll give you Keldon Johnson.
- [61:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But that number two pick ain't gonna be Cooper Flag. They want the number one pick, huh?
- [61:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I ain't got no more pick. Hey, and Dallas. Dallas might say, well, hell, we'll pair Cooper flag with AD And Kyrie and keep it for our damn self.
- [61:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm saying, is they gonna win you. Is they gonna win you a championship, though? Think about that. Him as a rookie. Can he come in and fit in and be a key player to. What they trying to do?
- [61:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Can giannis, Kyrie and A.D. can they fit in?
- [61:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [61:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. A.D. don't want to play the five. Giannis don't want to play the five. Giannis want to play the four. A.D. want to play.
- [61:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What they want to do, they want to win. What they want to do?
- [61:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you heard what they say. They just say I just play better. My mind is at ease when I'm at the.
- [61:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He got gas for the lively over there.
- [61:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they got to go. You ain't going to keep all that.
- [61:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You're going to keep at least one.
- [62:01]
Shannon Sharpe
No, I want them both.
- [62:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, they ain't gonna give them both. They gonna have to keep. They gonna keep one.
- [62:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, you keep Pow. You can keep Powell. You're not keeping both of them.
- [62:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You hear the confusion?
- [62:12]
Joe Johnson
You hear all the confusion? See all the confusion? The hypotheticals y' all going through? I'm gonna. I'm gonna let y' all finish. And when it ends.
- [62:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. Ocho. Unless. Unless you pair with four other teams, you don't have the draft capital.
- [62:26]
Joe Johnson
I know we don't have the draft capital. I would break it down and further in PowerPoint presentation the way it was given to me, you know, by the higher ups, you know, part of the HE organization. But I can't do that right now. But again, he will be down here in Miami. I'm telling you, I keep. I'm trying to give you hint after hint every show where ain't nobody listening to me.
- [62:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Houston got the draft capital and the young players. A Jabari Smith, a Draylon Green and the draft capital. Brooklyn got the draft capital, but I don't know if they have the players. Utah have draft capital. I don't know if they have the players. Do you want Laurie marketing under Collins Sexton and four or five draft picks, I don't know. But Houston with Jalen Green and Jabari Parker. Excuse me. Jabari Smith Jr. And four first rounders.
- [63:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Joe to Milwaukee for Giannis.
- [63:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Cause I pair Giannis. I pair Giannis with Shungun, and I. I gotta keep a. I gotta keep my man Thompson now. I gotta keep him.
- [63:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
See that you gonna. It seem like you're gonna. I don't. For whatever reason, like you're gonna take away some of the shooting of the scoring. It's like you. Because, you know, Amir Thompson and Giannis. Giannis, they. They almost like same type of player. Almost.
- [63:49]
Shannon Sharpe
No, I mean gonna be better. He gonna getting better. He getting better at shooting the ball. And plus we need defenders. Remember what happened last time Milwaukee got away to defenders when they gave up holiday. How they look? But I'm saying you gotta have somebody.
- [64:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That can defeat Yannis gonna want to have that ball in his hand a lot.
- [64:03]
Shannon Sharpe
I think.
- [64:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think Young boy, if they gonna do that, they, you know, he gonna play, he gonna. He gonna control that rock a lot more. You know, Young's gonna have to play off the ball some, huh? Heminate the ball.
- [64:13]
Shannon Sharpe
That's why we gonna keep. That's why we gonna keep a point guard. We're gonna keep Van Fleet.
- [64:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, it sounds good.
- [64:20]
Joe Johnson
Yeah, that's. It just sound good. That's all it is. It just sounded good.
- [64:24]
Shannon Sharpe
But, but I'm saying you got to go to the team because they want players and they won't draft capital.
- [64:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right?
- [64:30]
Shannon Sharpe
There are only a handful of teams that have players and the draft capital. You got San Antonio, you got Houston, you got Utah. Brooklyn have the capital, but they don't have the players. Houston have the players and the capital.
- [64:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I see what you're saying.
- [64:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Utah have capital and players. Laurie marketing, Collin Sexton, they have some pieces. So he's made it clear, look, no income tax because, hey, I'm about to sign this new Max deal and I want all this cheddar in my pocket. So he's telling you, he's telling you what he wants.
- [65:09]
Joe Johnson
Also, he's telling you he's coming from Milwaukee. He doesn't want to go to Utah. He doesn't want to go to San Antonio. He wants to come down to South Beach. He wants to.
- [65:17]
Shannon Sharpe
That's not what he said. He said a state with no income tax. That's what he said.
- [65:21]
Joe Johnson
I'm trying to give you a hint. You're not listening to me. I'm telling you what I know. I'm not telling you. I'm not saying I'm shams. I'm not saying I'm woes.
- [65:28]
Shannon Sharpe
I know, but he also said he would like to be in LA, too. Now, we know he can't go to the Lakers, but what about the Clippers? I don't know if the Clippers have it. They got. Do the Clippers have the players? They're going to have to give up Harden.
- [65:39]
Joe Johnson
Hey.
- [65:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Or Kawhi. Cause they ain't got no other pieces. They don't want Norman. Norman, Powell, Zubots. I don't know if that's enough. They don't have the Dre. They don't have the draft capital. All those other teams, they got seven, eight first rounders.
- [65:54]
Joe Johnson
I'mma tell you this.
- [65:55]
Shannon Sharpe
And they got capital. Jalen, you like Jalen Green. You like Jabari Smith Jr. Yeah. I mean, what you like Joe? And four first rounders and two pick swaps.
- [66:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, I like some way somehow getting him to Dallas, him and KD to Dallas. That's what I like.
- [66:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I can see kd. I can see KD going to Dallas, but not for Cooper Flag. They're not trading Cooper Flag for kd.
- [66:17]
Joe Johnson
See, y' all not gonna understand till you see or hear what. You seen Giannis last night on 183rd? Yeah, he was in Toosies getting, you know, on the second floor, getting the shoulder rub.
- [66:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right, y' all not gonna listen.
- [66:33]
Joe Johnson
To me until I was with Giannis. We went to dinner. We went to dinner on South Beach. But y' all keep coming up with all these hypotheticals, and I'm telling you where to be.
- [66:42]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just looking at. Without the team, without getting three or four teams involved. I'm looking at a team like Houston that have the capital and the players that can do something straight up. I'm looking at. I'm looking at a. Maybe a Dallas, a Cooper flag, a Daniel Gafford, and I don't know Klay Thompson. But you're going to need Klay Thompson to space the floor. But you do.
- [67:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, look, them fans in Dallas gonna be peed off. They messing around. Trade their number one pick. Them folk won't Coop.
- [67:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Even for Giannis.
- [67:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Them folk won't Cooper Flag, man, Giannis.
- [67:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Is the only man, the only man. He. And he did it twice. 30 points, 12 rebounds, 5 assists on 60% shooting. Nobody's ever did it once. He's done it in back to back years. And in the postseason, he was even better. 30, 33 points, 15 rebounds, 6 assists. Oh, he just shot 57% in the playoffs, that's all. But, you know, hey, they lost.
- [67:46]
Joe Johnson
Oh, man.
- [67:48]
Shannon Sharpe
I think the spurs have the best chance because they have. You know what I'm saying? Him and Wimby. With Castle, you got Chris Paul, Keldon, Johnson, Vassal. Four first rounders, some pick swaps. I give up five first rounders. That'd be okc. OKC has the. Has the capital to move it, to get it done. But I don't know if Presti wants to break up his young core, his young nucleus, yeah, they win it. So it's going to be very, very interesting. I don't see. I don't see the reason that he stays. They can't improve. And I told people this, and I remember having this very conversation, oh, I don't want to go. I want to go join somebody else. Giannis. If LeBron James couldn't get anybody to come join him in Cleveland, you damn sure can't get somebody to come join you in Milwaukee, period. And as great as you are, if you take LeBron at his peak, you take Giannis at his peak, LeBron was better, and LeBron couldn't get anybody to come join him. Be a free agency, right? So I don't know what to tell you, Giannis. You see all these people do all this talking, Joe, but if you're not careful, you will become the very thing you despise the most in a person. Everybody despised LeBron James. Going to link up. And I've been, damn, Ocho, what is everybody going to do now? If you're not careful, you'll become the very thing you despise the most in a person. If you hate a liar, if you're not careful, you'll become one. If you hate a cheat, if you're not careful, you'll become one. If you hate a thief, if you're not careful, you'll become one. If you hate a superstar, they go link up with other superstars. If you're not careful, you'll become the very thing you despise the most in a person. Well, you see, I ain't working. What are you doing? What are you doing? Ocho?
- [69:40]
Joe Johnson
You can do it every time.
- [69:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
In mysterious way.
- [69:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Everybody. Oh, I want to stay here. I want to be do this, and I want to do that. I bet. Damn LeBron sitting back there in his Brentwood mansion like, oh, really? Oh, really?
- [69:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's not time.
- [69:59]
Shannon Sharpe
And y' all mad at me, but y' all don't realize, Paul, it was KG and Ray Allen did it first. Did y' all realize that the Boston Celtics didn't draft KG or Ray Allen and they joined Paul Pierce? That was the Big three, and then they got Rondo. It was really a big four, but I know y' all got it in for me, so y' all said I did it. Okay?
- [70:25]
Joe Johnson
Mm.
- [70:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, look, I wanna see him on the move. I wanna see him in a different. In a different uniform.
- [70:32]
Joe Johnson
Gonna be in one. Vice City.
- [70:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [70:35]
Joe Johnson
305 Dade County, Liberty City.
- [70:39]
Shannon Sharpe
But I thought he didn't wanna go play with other great players. He said that, Kevin, we gotta pull that article. We gonna have it next time you.
- [70:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Come on here where he said he mean it. He ain't mean it. He mean he needs some help. He needs some more.
- [70:53]
Shannon Sharpe
You see, but because, see what you do, Joe. See what you do is that when LeBron do it. See, if I say that's not what I want to do, everybody say, yeah, see how Giannis is. See how Giannis is. But that's the thing about the Internet now. It's forever. Yeah, it's forever. Cause a lot of times, some people saying stuff that in the sadness, if you weren't around to hear it, you don't remember, or the 80s, but this thing, this, this, this invention called the Internet, oh, it's amazing thing. It'll stay up there forever.
- [71:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Hello.
- [71:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but, but I, I just don't. Oh, and look, I understand Miami, but listen, we. Honestly, you do realize Tim Duncan was going to go to Orlando. The only reason he didn't go. You know why he didn't go on, Joe?
- [71:42]
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [71:42]
Shannon Sharpe
They said he could not fly his wife on the plane when they go on. It's okay. He went back.
- [71:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he was.
- [71:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Because Pop allowed it.
- [71:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He was gonna be in that with TMac and Grand Hill.
- [71:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep, And Grand Hill. Tim Duncan, he was a done deal. He asked, do y' all allow significant others on the team charter? No, that's not what we do here. But that's what they do where I left and I'm going back.
- [72:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. That's crazy, because.
- [72:13]
Shannon Sharpe
So at the end of the day, in order to get said, I mean, there's a lot of, A lot of times when you want a CEO, you have to offer perks. 24 hour security, you get lifetime healthcare, you get X amount of hours on the private jet. There are certain perks, there are certain concessions you must make if you want said individual. Sometimes, I mean, to get a guy like, think about it. Tim Duncan and TMac and Grant Hill and all. Because you know what? Well, we have a policy name a rule that hadn't been amended or bent a little bit. Yes, you make concessions. There are certain things that you have to be willing to make concessions for. And if it's more than for Tim Duncan or if I get an opportunity to get a Shaq or Kobe in their prime, or LeBron. Oh. Now in this situation, Ayannis.
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Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
How many times, how many times do we see players and then their dad or somebody they know is on the staff.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right. All the time.
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Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Now you can be stubborn until my dying. What we do. Okay, that ain't what we used to do. We do it now.
- [73:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You need some help nowadays, bro?
- [73:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. Because these team. These teams are. They're too good. They're too good because everybody. Everybody got at least two. Everybody got two.
- [73:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Some even three, maybe even four.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes. And so now Giannis is looking at it like, man, look at best case scenario, Damon's not coming back until the start of the 26th season. Yeah. 26. Head to 27. Yeah.
- [74:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Dane wanted to be in. Wanted to be in Miami to begin with. Pat Riley didn't want to give up the compensation. See Pat that he could strong on people. No, no. We take the best deal. We're not just finna give him to you.
- [74:26]
Joe Johnson
Right?
- [74:27]
Shannon Sharpe
That's not gonna happen. It's not. Yeah. So it's gonna be very interesting, this thing. I mean, look, Cooper Flag. I don't believe Dallas would trade Cooper Flag. I don't. Yeah, they might. They might run Nico out of town if you do that. You got rid of Lou, you got rid of Luca. Yeah. You got to go. You got to go. They might. Hey, they might storm the castle. Ocho.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Unless. Unless what? You bringing in gonna deliver a championship. But still, you gonna have to go through the grief all the way up until then. You know what I mean?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like.
- [75:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Because even if you win one with Giannis, they're gonna say, we could have won three or four with Cooper. You know how this work. Oo and Joe. It's never good enough for the fans.
- [75:23]
Joe Johnson
No. And never, never that. And if I'm Nico, if. If the owners have any inclination about getting rid of Cooper Flag, Nico need to step down. Because I'm not following the sword again. I'm not falling on this sword again.
- [75:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So, Uncle Ocho, y' all think Cooper Flagg can help lead the Mavericks?
- [75:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Maybe not his first year, but I think he's good enough in a couple years. Look, only Magic Johnson did that. But Magic Johnson had the MVP riding shotgun. Kareem.
- [75:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's what I'm saying. So how many years y' all expect for Kyrie and AD to stick around for? They gotta wait for him to develop.
- [76:01]
Shannon Sharpe
As I think his second year. I think his second year, he'd be good.
- [76:05]
Joe Johnson
He nice now. He nice.
- [76:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I know he nice, but nice. When last time we seen a rookie leader team to the playoffs.
- [76:12]
Shannon Sharpe
But here's the thing. But you do realize Kyrie probably ain't coming back to the Top of the year. Kyrie ain't coming back here. January 26th. Joe.
- [76:20]
Joe Johnson
Yeah, what about that? I forgot about it. Got about Kyrie injury. Yeah, they can't, they can't left.
- [76:27]
Shannon Sharpe
So you get Kyrie. So you got Clay, flag, ad and Lively. I like that.
- [76:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You still need some more pieces.
- [76:44]
Joe Johnson
Hey, do, I'm right here.
- [76:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They gonna need some more.
- [76:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Go back to why the NBA? No. If you look at the top television markets, New York, number one, L.A. number two, Chicago, number three, Philly, number four, Dallas, Fort Worth, Ocho. Y' all don't watch TV in Miami. I'm sorry. There's too much going on.
- [77:14]
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I mean, you're right. But listen, I watch tv. It's a lot of stuff going on. I don't be outside. I don't be outside. Not like that.
- [77:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you need to tell, you do tell a lot more folks be like you and stay inside and watch tv.
- [77:27]
Joe Johnson
That's different. The things, when people come to Miami on, you know, they're so they come to do stuff. Yeah, they come, they come to do stuff. I've been here all my life, man. Yes, you know, and I understand there's nothing out there. Depending on what you're looking for, it ain't outside, you know, So I have a great understanding. But people need to come here and enjoy. This is a melting pot for all ethnicities, for all cultures. Anything you want to find is here in the city. Restaurants, food clubs, you name it, you can find it here.
- [77:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Seattle and Phoenix are above Miami. Seattle, Phoenix.
- [78:02]
Joe Johnson
Well, you talk about tv.
- [78:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [78:05]
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, understandable.
- [78:08]
Shannon Sharpe
That's why they tried, that's why they tried to get a team, trying to get a team back in Seattle.
- [78:11]
Joe Johnson
But we still, we still the better. We still the better Seattle, everybody, you name it. Now, regardless of what those TV ratings say we talk about Miami. It sells itself.
- [78:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it sells inside all them damn hurricanes and thunderstorms.
- [78:29]
Joe Johnson
One thing about hurricanes is, you know, two weeks in advance. If you can't get your ass out of here with two weeks notice, what I'm gonna do.
- [78:34]
Shannon Sharpe
What. What about. I'm gonna do that pop up thunderstorm that they let me know five minutes beforehand.
- [78:40]
Joe Johnson
Listen, if the pop up, a pop up thunderstorm is small, so you're gonna be all right.
- [78:48]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, I'm out there by nicely. They say I look like a, a plug duck.
- [78:53]
Joe Johnson
Hey, look, if it's a pop up Thunderstorm, it's still 90 degrees, all right?
- [78:58]
Shannon Sharpe
I know I don't. Hey now. Hey. The rain come for 10 minutes and now the humidity goes up to 1,000. Man, like you walking in the sauna. I know exactly what you're talking about. Cause I'm from Georgia, and we get them. I used to hate when it rained. We was outside. I'm doing manual. We working in tobacco. We doing whatever. And then that sun. I was like, lord, please don't let it stop raining. Just let it rain for the next hour so we can knock off. So the boss, so Mr. Joe said, all right, we gonna call it a day. Man, that thing rained for 10, 15 minutes. And we go back out there, that's up. Hey, Ojo.
- [79:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm wishing when you ride, boy, Miami is a special place, man.
- [79:43]
Joe Johnson
You know, it ain't really. Listen, the product sells itself, Joe. I ain't really got to say nothing. It's like Blue Magic, you know, you don't need to do nothing. You don't need to change the name of Blue Magic, you know?
- [79:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, right now, right now, you boy on ice.
- [79:57]
Joe Johnson
Okay. Okay.
- [79:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I got.
- [79:58]
Joe Johnson
I got you.
- [80:01]
Shannon Sharpe
No comment. No further coming. No further commentary will be added, but at a later date in time. Yeah, yeah.
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Ryan Seacrest
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