Nightcap Hour 2: 76ers SHOCK the Celtics in Game 7 + Jaylen Brown Says Embiid Gets REWARDED For FLOPPING

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2: 76ers SHOCK the Celtics in Game 7 + Jaylen Brown Says Embiid Gets REWARDED For FLOPPING

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Date: May 4, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (Host 1), with Co-hosts (Co-host 1: Ocho, Co-host 2: Joe)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the Philadelphia 76ers' dramatic comeback to eliminate the Boston Celtics in Game 7 of the NBA Playoffs, spotlighting Joel Embiid’s contentious role, Jaylen Brown’s criticism regarding Embiid’s flopping, and previews for the upcoming Sixers-Knicks playoff clash. The conversation also broadens into NBA culture—player health narratives, generational differences in basketball, and playful sports debates between the hosts.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Sixers’ Series Comeback & Embiid’s Impact

• Sixers Down 3–1, Advance to Face Knicks:
  The hosts open with the Sixers rallying from a 3–1 deficit, upsetting the Celtics and drawing the Knicks in a playoff rematch. Host quotes Embiid’s call for Philly fans not to sell tickets to Knicks fans.

  “Last time we played the Knicks, it felt like Philadelphia was in Madison Square Garden East. We're going to need the support. Don't sell your tickets. This is bigger than you. We need you guys.” (Host 1, 03:37)

• Embiid’s Talent vs. Availability:
  The crew debates Embiid’s greatness and frequent injuries.

  “Nobody has ever or will ever doubt his ability. We doubt his availability because the first three games of the series, where was he?” (Host 1, 04:30)
  “When he's on that court, he's a complete difference maker. Which is why he gets the money he does get...Look what it does for you.” (Co-host 1, 05:25)

• Physical Resilience & Comparisons to Shaq:
  Hosts highlight Embiid’s unique skillset and athleticism for his size, comparing him to Shaquille O'Neal but with better shooting.

  “Only one guy had that kind of athleticism at that size – that’s Shaq. But Shaq couldn’t shoot the ball like this kid.” (Host 1, 06:33)
  “We've never seen a man that big, 300 plus pounds, 7 foot plus tall, move and be able to do what he can do on the court.” (Host 1, 05:01)

• Tyrese Maxey’s Breakout:
  Tyrese Maxey lauded for clutch play and assertiveness, seen as a key to Philly’s postseason success.

  “I love his energy and effort, his assertiveness...I'm gonna shoot when I want, I'm gonna be aggressive, I'm gonna attack.” (Co-host 2, 07:19)

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2. Debating Embiid’s Injuries and NBA Star Health Narratives

• Longevity and Personnel Risks:
  Ongoing frustration with Embiid’s availability, yet acknowledgment of his MVP-caliber contributions when healthy.

  “To invest that kind of money – in a guy that I'm only getting... I'm not even really getting him 50% of the time.” (Host 1, 09:57)
  “Two things can be true... Joel Embiid is a phenomenal talent, but the majority of the time he's unavailable.” (Host 1, 11:32)

• Sports Media’s All-or-Nothing Logic:
  The group criticizes “cancel culture” logic in fan/media discourse—pointing out that criticizing a player’s recent form isn't denying their greatness overall.

  “Tom Brady can play bad and still been a great player. But you don't—this ain't a lifetime achievement award as long as he's still playing. We have to evaluate him on his game.” (Host 1, 10:47)

• NBA Weight & Size Exaggerations:
  Amusing exchange questioning NBA-listed weights for players like Embiid and LeBron.

  “They list him at 285. If Joel Embiid is 285, I'm 165.” (Host 1, 18:05)
  “You think Joel Embiid is only 30 pounds heavier than you? Nah, nah.” (Co-host 2, 19:04)

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3. Locker Room Banter and Competitive Trash Talk

• Hosts’ High School/Collegiate Legends:
  Friendly smack talk about who could beat whom in a hypothetical basketball shootout, including old high school exploits.

  “I dropped 52 in the game... I averaged 30 my senior year, Joe... the record was still intact.” (Host 1, 22:16)
  “You ain't gonna get past me. You hear me? I'm gonna talk him out of game.” (Co-host 1, 23:31)

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4. Generation Gap: Music, Parties, and Social Life

• House Parties and R&B Nostalgia:
  Spirited reflection on the cultural differences between old-school parties/music vs today's nightclub scene, highlighting R&B’s importance and the lost art of slow dancing.

  “That was real music. We never again... they used to beg back then, Unc.” (Co-host 1, 32:08)
  “Back in the day, the little house parties that we used to go to... there was nothing like that.” (Co-host 2, 27:17)

• Church Hats and Family Traditions:
  Entertaining riff about grandmothers’ legendary church hat collections and the social status associated with “having a hat for every dress.”

  “My grandma got buried in one of hers... She want her glasses, she want her teeth, she want a hat on.” (Host 1, 34:28)

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5. Jaylen Brown’s Accusations: Embiid Gets “Rewarded for Flopping”

[STARTS: 41:43]

• Brown’s Comments Read Aloud

  “Jaylen Brown believes Joel Embiid was rewarded for flopping in Game 7... Flopping has ruined our league. Joel is one of the greatest players that's played basketball. But he flops. He knows it too.” (Host 1, 41:43)

• Hosts’ Take – Is It Fair?

  • Co-hosts argue Brown is speaking out of frustration post-defeat; concede Embiid does sometimes ‘flail’ but also suggest this manipulation is now part of the NBA’s “great scorers” toolkit.

  “A guy his size, you don't expect, every time he get touched...for him to flail and be looking for a foul... But this is how the great scores in our league today are able to manipulate the game.” (Co-host 2, 42:29)

  • They note flopping is widespread and rarely punished as once promised.

  "There's a lot of flailing and flopping going on in the league, bro. You can't distinguish what's authentic and what's not." (Co-host 2, 43:44)

• Shots at Celtics' Late Game Decisions:

  • Host criticizes Celtics’ poor late-game shot selection (repeated threes) more than flopping or refs.

  “It wasn't flopping. It was y’all dumb play, JB. Y'all down one point, and you come down and launch five, six straight threes.” (Host 1, 43:52)

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6. Series & Matchup Analysis: 76ers vs. Knicks

• Rundown of Matchup Questions & Keys:

  • Hosts break down who can guard whom in the Sixers-Knicks series (Brunson on Maxi? Paul George?), the Knicks’ potential problems with Embiid, and Car. Anthony Towns (“Cat”)’s role.

  “The question is—they’re probably going to start Mikal Bridges or OG [Anunoby] on Maxi. You can't put Brunson on him.” (Host 1, 50:00)

  • Concern that Knicks may not have enough to slow Embiid down. Emphasis on Sixers’ depth and the challenge of covering their many options.

• Disagreement About Giving the Knicks & Kat Enough Respect:

  • Co-host 1 pushes back on dismissing the Knicks’ chances and underestimating Kat’s post-game.

  “I don't like that we're not giving goddamn Karl-Anthony Towns any credit just because he getting ready to face goddamn Joel Embiid...” (Co-host 1, 55:15)

  • Others counter that Embiid’s size and strength are a mismatch Kat can't solve with post-ups.

• Bench Impact and Boston’s Missed Opportunity:

  • A focus on Philly’s starters vs. Celtics’ bench production—Philly needed little from its bench to win, but this could matter in further rounds.

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7. Playoff Bracket Thoughts and Open Bets

• Series Predictions:

  • The mood leans toward Sixers as favorites if Embiid remains healthy; no back-to-backs may help.

  “I feel like Philly got—they got what it takes.” (Co-host 2, 51:50)

• Pop Culture & Future Plans:

  • The episode closes with fun talk of R&B karaoke, Kentucky Derby plans, and Black church traditions.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Embiid’s Impact:

  “We just want him to be available. Ocho, he's played as of March. He played 485 games. Missed 485 games.” (Host 1, 05:01)
  “He was hitting score parts on Jaylen Brown. Calm down, y'all getting all them…” (Host 1, 07:03)

• On Flopping

  “Flopping has ruined our league. Joel is one of the greatest players that's played basketball. But he flops. He knows it too.” (Jaylen Brown via Host 1, 41:43)
  “There's a lot of flailing and flopping going on in the league, bro. You can't distinguish what's authentic and what's not.” (Co-host 2, 43:44)

• On NBA Media Criticism

  “Two things can be true... Joel Embiid is a phenomenal talent, but the majority of the time he's unavailable.” (Host 1, 11:32)

• Fun Banter

  “You ain't gonna get past me. I'm gonna talk him out of game.” (Co-host 1, 23:31)
  “My grandma got buried in one of hers... She want her glasses, she want her teeth, she want a hat on.” (Host 1, 34:28)

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Key Timestamps

• 03:37 – Embiid’s call to Philly fans regarding Knicks ticket sales
• 05:01 – Embiid’s talent vs. availability discussion
• 07:19 – Praise for Maxey’s assertiveness
• 09:57 – Debate over investing in injury-prone superstars
• 18:05 – Joking about listed NBA player weights
• 22:16 – 23:31 – Trash talk about old high school basketball exploits
• 32:08 – 34:28 – Old school R&B, parties, and church hat culture
• 41:43 – Reading Jaylen Brown's postgame flopping comments
• 42:29 – Analysis of Embiid’s “flailing” and modern foul-drawing
• 43:52 – Celtics late game strategy critique
• 46:27 – Discussion of three-point variance in Celtics offense
• 50:00 – 55:15 – Knicks vs. Sixers matchup, defensive assignments, Kat vs. Embiid debate

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Summary

A lively, insightful mix of NBA playoff analysis and cultural commentary, this episode expertly balances sharp basketball breakdowns (Embiid’s health and dominance, Brown’s flopping gripe, Maxey’s emergence) with authentic, entertaining banter on sports, music, and Black family tradition. The hosts critique both player and team decision-making while celebrating the personalities—and the evolving game—that make playoff basketball compelling. The episode’s tone is candid and playful, packed with quotable moments and genuine chemistry among the hosts, making it equally valuable for hardcore basketball heads and casual sports fans.

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[Host 1]

the Sixers rallied from a 3:1 series deficit to upset the Celtics in the first round of the playoffs, setting up a showdown with the Knicks in a postseason rematch from two years ago in which New York fans flooded the Wells Fargo center after presumably fortunate tickets from the Sixers fans, Embiid pleaded with the 76 fans to avoid a repeat of scenario from the 2024 series. I have just one message for our fans. Last time we played the Knicks, it felt like Philadelphia was in Madison Square Garden East. We're going to need the support. Don't sell your tickets. This is bigger than you. We need you guys.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, I talked in Be Right and he told me he want the apologies to be just as loud as the criticism. Yeah, that was, that was the message I was given. I'm not sure who who he was addressing it to. He told me to say make sure the apologies and just as loud as

[Host 1]

the criticism was, nobody has ever or will ever doubt his ability. We doubt his availability because the first three games of the series, where was he? Ocho and Joe?

[Co-host 1]

He was hurt. He was hurt.

[Co-host 2]

That stability is what availability.

[Host 1]

Yeah, we not doubting. We know Joel Embiid is what there's never been. There's only been one man his size that athletic that can move, but he couldn't shoot like Joel Embiid and That's Shaq.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

We've never seen a man that big, 300 plus pounds, 7 foot plus tall, to move and be able to do what he can do on the court. We just want him to be available. Ocho, he's played as of March. He played 485 games. Yeah. Missed 485 games.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. We had this conversation though, Uncle Joe.

[Co-host 2]

Yes.

[Co-host 1]

We. We got on him about him not being available. And we had someone chiming in the chat or whatever it was. And they talked about the money he had gotten and why did they pay him that much. And the only thing, the only thing. Thing I answer I could have for that was is he's not available. He's always hurt. But when he is available, when he's on that court, he's a complete difference maker. Which is why he gets the money he does get. Even though most people will say it's not warranted because he's missed so many goddamn games. But he showed you in this series alone where they didn't send Boston home because of his presence, even though it slows the game down for everybody else. Look what it does for you.

[Host 1]

And you just hold your. Every time he goes down, you hold your breath.

[Co-host 2]

You do, man.

[Host 1]

Anytime somebody bang you to. He's like.

[Co-host 1]

You know how I knew he was okay? You know you knew how we knew it was good? Remember when that ball was going out of bounds? You see him die for that thing?

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

[Host 1]

He.

[Co-host 1]

He. Oh, he good. He good.

[Host 1]

But then what you call him, he got the guy, he picked up a charge and then the guy backed into his knee. Cause that's how he hurt his knee one time before. You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host 2]

He.

[Host 1]

And he got his knee hyper extended back and then he started cramping on the sideline. They're trying to stretch him out. He's a phenomenal talent. No, you'll never ever. Because I watched him. Only one guy had that kind of that athleticism at that size that Shaq. But Shaq couldn't shoot the ball like this kid could, right?

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

But as far you talking about a guy that's 7 foot 1, 300 plus pounds. Do you see how he moves?

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 1]

He can shoot the three. He could get a mid range. He can back it down, shoot over either shoulder. And I look, hey. He was hitting score parts on Jay Lebriety, like, calm down, y' all getting all them.

[Co-host 2]

I just

[Host 1]

got this.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, amb. Hey, hey. He ain't the games that he has played in this postseason. Uncle Ocho. Yeah, boy. Look damn good, if you ask me. You know, I. I think the biggest key for Philly is if you can get those guys around him, obviously. I don't worry about Maxi. I think Maxi's been great. I. I love his energy and effort, his assertiveness that he. That he comes out with. And he don't defer to no damn body. Yeah, we gonna get Embiid some touches, but damn it, I'm. I'm gonna be at the helm, and I'm gonna shoot when I want. I'm gonna be aggressive, I'm gonna attack. I'mma do all that. But if you get Edgecomb and Paul George to be able to play efficiently like they play. Yeah. Off these two dudes, they gon. They gotta.

[Host 1]

Oh, Joe. The last three possessions, who had the ball? Maxi.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

They put him in the pick and roll, and what did he do? Get all the way to the rim

[Co-host 2]

and lay it up.

[Host 1]

Three straight possessions.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, but you know how. You know why that's possible, though? It's possible because Embiid kind of had it going. And the big is in that between he and that hucklebuck. I call it the hucklebuck, Uncle Ocho, because you like. Damn. Maxi come off this pick and roll. I don't know if he really looking to throw it back to Embiid or get all the way to the basket, but Maxi playing with such thrust down the stretch, bro, it creates so many opportunities, and it makes him that much more dangerous. They are gonna get the Knicks. Hell, they gonna get a Nick's hell. Because what we lack, if they want. Yeah, because what the question.

[Host 1]

What cat are we gonna get?

[Co-host 2]

Well, well, I think with the history. You gotta understand the history about Cat and MB now.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, you saw. I saw the tweets.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Saw the old tweets, Joe. They're going at it, huh? You gotta look at the old tweets. Where Embiid tweeted. Goddamn Cat.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, yeah. It's been. It's been a nasty little rival between those two, and I don't expect for it to be no difference in this postseason.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah. Yeah. When you look at it, what we lack. What we lack, meaning the Hawks, we didn't have no girth. We couldn't really. It was tough for us to deal with Robinson and Cat. Well, hell, Philly ain't got that problem with mb.

[Host 1]

They got Drum Dog, and they got. Yep.

[Co-host 2]

Man, what you talking about? They got guys coming off that bench who can who can withstand all that. So I, I think Philly is going to be a tougher, a way tougher matchup. Yeah. Than what my Hogs gave him for sure.

[Host 1]

Oh, Joe.

[Co-host 1]

Yes, sir.

[Host 1]

We're having this conversation, Joe.

[Co-host 2]

Last week.

[Host 1]

It was just last week.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

About it.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Well, yeah.

[Host 1]

I said. You said you try. I said, yeah, I would. I said, because I can't trust his availability. I never said he couldn't play because he's an MVP. He's gotten 70 points. I said, but to invest that kind of money Right. In a guy that I'm only getting. I'm not even really getting him 50 of the time. See? You see what the, the way people look at it, if you say something negative about a person, anything that he ever. He or she has ever done, you try to discount it.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

That was the issue that me and my co host had with Tom Brady. Tom Brady didn't play well. Are you trying to say he didn't win seven Super Bowls? Are you saying he didn't throw for 80000 yards? Are you saying he didn't Throw for six? No, that's not what I said. Two things can be true.

[Co-host 2]

Yes. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Tom Brady can play bad and still been a great player. But you don't. This ain't a lifetime achievement award as long as he's still playing. We have to evaluate him on his game.

[Co-host 1]

You.

[Co-host 2]

Yes.

[Host 1]

LeBron James didn't play well. Oh, so now you saying he ain't score 40 plus thousand points. No, that ain't what I said. I said he didn't play game bad. He played bad this game when he scored 10 points. Joe and I came, I said, bro, this was awful. This might have been the worst playoff game I've ever seen him play. If you got to go all the way back to 2011 when he played those games against the mavericks to find LeBron James not playing well in a playoff game, two things can be true. Joel Embiid is a phenomenal talent, but the majority of the time he's unavailable.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Yeah. It's hard to win and build a championship contending team when your best player is unavailable.

[Co-host 1]

That's understandable.

[Host 1]

No, you understood, Joe understood. Exactly. But capping, what did I cap about? Has Joel Embiid missed 485 games as of March? Yes.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Has he played 485 games since March? List the injuries in which he's actually missed games and missed in playoffs.

[Co-host 1]

Right.

[Host 1]

Or he's been limited in the playoffs.

[Co-host 2]

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Was that last Year, Joe, where he was dragging that leg and if he had been healthy, they might have won the series.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, I think it was.

[Host 1]

Yeah, he got that big old dun joy on. It's damn near like a cast. He dragging his leg and still giving you 30.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, he's dealt with injuries since he came into the league, man. Yeah.

[Host 1]

And you know what? As a matter of fact. Hold on. Yeah, that was 20, 24. Yeah. Yes. Because my question was, I was like, guys, why is he going to play into the Olympics when he was hurt in the playoffs?

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Why not get healthy?

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And guess what? He limped into the season.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah. He barely played in, in the Olympics here.

[Host 1]

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[Co-host 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 1]

That's all you needed him for.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

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[Host 1]

Two things can be true.

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and. I know, I know, I know. Embiid reminded a lot of people. I know he missed a lot of time. A lot of people had a lot of things to say about him because of his absence. Absences, you know, due to unfortunate circumstances that he really. That are out of his. Out of his control. Huh? Out of control. Now, maybe there's some things he can do personally to. To prevent some of these injuries, but it's. There's been something that, that started. He's. Hell, when he came in the NBA, he came in hurt, you know, but when he a Joe, when he is healthy, I don't even think he's ever been healthy. Just. I'm talking about. I'm talking about 100.

[Host 1]

I don't think he wasn't MVP. I think he played like 68, 70 games.

[Co-host 2]

He was special that year.

[Host 1]

That. That might have been the most games that he played. But you got to realize, guys, he limped. He came into the league and ended up having to have back surgery. Yeah, you. You. You got a real big of a man. That is people. They list him at 285. If Joel Embiid is 285, I'm 165.

[Co-host 2]

You think he every bit of three, three and some.

[Host 1]

July. Yeah, I'm 255. Y' all saw me?

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So y' all think Joyland beat is only 30 pounds heavier than me? I'm six foot two. Jordan beat is 7172. And y' all think Jordan beat is only 30 pounds heavier than me'?

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

They say LeBron James is 260. So you believe that Joyland beat is only 25 pounds heavier than LeBron Joe?

[Co-host 2]

Hell, no. Damn me. I'll weigh the same amount.

[Host 1]

So you. In other words, so you saying Joel embiid is only 30 pounds heavier than you?

[Co-host 2]

Nah. Nah.

[Host 1]

Okay. Hey, Joe, I got. We got to get that way down there, Joe. I'm gonna get on down. I'm gonna get down to 245 then.

[Co-host 2]

You trying to see. I, I. The lowest I'm gonna get. UNC is about. I played at 240, so I'm. I'm like 2:50, 2, 53 right now. Yeah, yeah, I played at 240. I can probably get. I probably need to get back to about 245.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, you you might. You might.

[Host 1]

Well, I. I played at 228. Did you? Ain't but two ways I can get to 228 again. Yeah, and I don't want either one of them cracker aids.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe, you might want to get down to about 220, boy.

[Host 1]

For why, huh?

[Co-host 2]

For what?

[Co-host 1]

Why you talking about, Joe?

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host 1]

How the hell are you gonna. How you gonna stay in front of me at 2:30 or any of that?

[Host 1]

Joe said that reach.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, I'm talking about hooping. I ain't talking about.

[Host 1]

Oh, you do a hoop. Oh, Joe cross you up.

[Co-host 1]

He too heavy.

[Co-host 2]

The man can't walk and chew bubblegum, bro. You think I'm. Man, come on. Come on, man.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, hey, Joe. Listen, Joe. All that weight ain't gonna help you, Joe. You're gonna be too slow. I'm telling. I'm telling you. I'm as.

[Co-host 2]

As a friend, Ocho. Ocho, as.

[Co-host 1]

As a friend. As an. As an elite athlete with the best footwork of all time in any sport.

[Host 1]

But, Ocho, you knew the ball in your hand when you was doing that, huh? You have the ball in your head when you was running around. I'm.

[Co-host 1]

I'm a dribble past that.

[Co-host 2]

And that's what he came. He think. He think. Cause he got quick feet. Hit them damn quick feet ain't gonna be worth the damn if he can't dribble the ball and let that ball keep a man.

[Host 1]

Please, Joe.

[Co-host 1]

You know, Joe, you don't see me dribble, man. I ain't no different than Kyrie. You don't see my toolbox. Don't do that. Don't do that, Joe. Hey, Joe, for real. Hey, Joe, you need to stop disrespecting me, boy. I'm telling you, your head gonna look.

[Co-host 2]

Hey.

[Host 1]

Oh. Yo, when you finish with him, Ocho, that way I would take him out to the three point line.

[Co-host 1]

Hey.

[Co-host 2]

Wow.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Five of them in a row.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, once again, once again, I gotta make you guys a believer, but guess what? I don't mind doing it, fellas. I really don't mind it.

[Co-host 1]

I hope. I hope so.

[Co-host 2]

I really don't mind it.

[Co-host 1]

I. I hope so.

[Host 1]

That.

[Co-host 2]

That Louis Vuitton ball, that uncat. Hey, in advance, thank you. Okay. In advance, thank you. Thank you. I'm gonna take that off your hand. You don't know what to do with that. I got you. Don't worry about it, partner.

[Host 1]

Hey, hey. I don't put it up. I put it up against Steph Clay and Dane. But since they didn't take me up on it. You want to take me up on it? Come get it.

[Co-host 2]

Well, hey, hey, look, I ain't got no problem shooting your eyes out. Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah.

[Host 1]

Nice little Louis Vuitton ball, too.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Host 1]

You know what a handful of these. I got one.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, hey.

[Co-host 2]

Why, I knew you. I knew. Oh, Uncle Ocho. Boy, y' all was sweet as cotton candy. I already knew it.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, hey, I know you think so.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Oh, so you thought you gonna this easy win for you, huh?

[Co-host 2]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Either way. But I really. I was gonna be cool and act like, you know, we were having it out, you know, it was a big deal. It was. Oh, okay.

[Host 1]

Hey, Joe, just. I mean, just. Just between you and I. Yeah. You know, I still got the school record of my high school. I dropped 52 in the game. Did you? Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Okay.

[Host 1]

I averaged 30 my senior year, Joe. I'm just. I'm just throwing that out there. I know that was a long time ago. I got my 40 year coming up in June. 40 years since I left Glenville High. Yeah, but the record was still intact. Yeah, I got the high school record and I got the JV record. I dropped 39 on the JV game.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, you ain't shot a jumper in over 10, 15 years.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah, I'm a little muscle by right now. But.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, look, but.

[Host 1]

But I think for out of five shots, you.

[Co-host 2]

If you playing me, if we shooting best, you can't miss. That's what I'm trying to tell you. One miss, Will. Caution. That's what I'm trying to tell you, partner.

[Host 1]

Man, please.

[Co-host 2]

One miss, a caution. Man, please what? Man, please what? You want me to jump on your ass too, huh?

[Host 1]

I can't let. Joe. This thing has been in my possession for about. About four, five years, Joe. I can't let it go. Joe.

[Co-host 2]

I can't let you win. The one thing. The one thing you can. You can. You can take with you is that you know that I'm gonna have you. It's gonna be in good hands over here, baby. Like Allstate. I got you. I ain't gonna let nothing happen to it. You hear me?

[Host 1]

Hey, I can't. I can't. I can't let you with it, Joe. I can't.

[Co-host 1]

The man ain't gonna win nothing. He ain't gonna get past me. You hear me? I'm gonna talk him out of game.

[Host 1]

You ain't gonna wanna play me.

[Co-host 2]

Man. 1. I fly from Miami. I'm coming straight to Vegas.

[Host 1]

Hell you talking about?

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, look, I come to put down a mean demonstration. I ain't here to play no silly games with y', all, okay, Joe, I

[Co-host 1]

don't even play game, Joe. I don't even play with my kid, Joe. You think I'm g. To play with you?

[Co-host 2]

Okay, all right, all right. Oh, Joe.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, Joe, once I. Hey, Joe, once I sit in that chair. Boy, you not going. You not going nowhere, I'm telling you.

[Co-host 2]

Huh?

[Host 1]

Oh, you were sitting that chair. You sit in that chair on them. Like Stephan. Stephan Castle.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, like Castle. Hey, matter of fact, I'mma be. I'mma be.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, I'm.

[Co-host 1]

I'mma blowing his ear like Lance Stevenson.

[Co-host 2]

You see the man knee high to a duck's ass? How he think he gonna disturb anything I'm doing? It's like KD shooting a jump shot and somebody trying to get. Man, I don't even see you, brother.

[Host 1]

Joe.

[Co-host 1]

You gonna see me, Joe.

[Co-host 2]

I don't even see you, Joe.

[Co-host 1]

I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be in your face. I'm gonna be in your vicinity. I'm gonna be talking in your ear, Joe. You gonna be flustered. You ain't never had nobody defend you like this, Joe. I'mma talk.

[Co-host 2]

That's not possible, Ojo. Yeah, I've seen it all, man. I'd have seen it all, Joe.

[Co-host 1]

You ain't never played nobody like me ever.

[Host 1]

What are you talking about? Oh, God. I grew up.

[Co-host 2]

I grew up, man. If I ain't. If I ain't. I did this thing for bread and meat. If I ain't win, I ain't eat. You hear me?

[Co-host 1]

Hey, hey, hey. Speaking of bread, you know what? I'm on your ass. Cause you owe me that 500. So I'm gonna make it worse on you.

[Co-host 2]

When we play, man, I'll owe you. I ain't paying you. You can stop even talking about it. It's over with. I told you that's how I feel. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, Joe.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey. And if you don't like, you gotta get it how you live, partner.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, Joe, I'm gonna get it in blood. I ain't worried about it.

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[Host 1]

Hey, Joe, people, I mean, I think. Oo think because you've been dressed like a 80s old 80s group like you out there, you like, you like you Black street or somebody.

[Co-host 2]

Hey.

[Co-host 1]

Nah, he look like men. Condition. Yeah. You going to get this.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, what you know about me, condition boy?

[Co-host 1]

Oh, hey, my favorite. Hey, my favorite Song for mink edition. So Fine.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, you know that I gotta catch the melodies, man.

[Host 1]

Joe. So Fine.

[Co-host 2]

What?

[Host 1]

Huh?

[Co-host 1]

What you know about that?

[Host 1]

So fine. Blow your mind.

[Co-host 1]

No, not that one. Not that one. It's called so Fine. Hey, Joe, you ain't got your phone on you? Yeah, man, Joe, just. Just hit so Fine real quick. Joe, when you hear the beat first,

[Host 1]

when that stuff was out. Oh, first of all, when that stuff was out, you was in damn middle school. I was.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, I was listening to it in middle school, Uncle Joe. I was listening to music in middle school that if my mama knew what I was listening to.

[Co-host 1]

You get in trouble?

[Co-host 2]

Why they got in trouble?

[Co-host 1]

Hey, hey, you got. Hey, hey, hey. You got to understand. I was a tenderoni in. In junior high. I had about. I had about three, four girlfriends.

[Host 1]

But see, back then, I mean, the song was central. I mean, everybody know, but they wouldn't talk about no hoohah. They a talk about N. N. That was.

[Co-host 1]

That was real music.

[Host 1]

That was. That was none of that in that.

[Co-host 1]

That was real music. We never again.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, hey, that's when. Hey, that's when you used to go to them little house parties or dances and you could grind.

[Host 1]

Little school dance. Yeah, but you had a chaperon, cuz, you know. Hey, you know, you could. They would let you get on that slow. Cuz back then, they only slow drag. They were slow dance, slow drag, whatever they want to call it. Yeah, they only let you down do that no more.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, no.

[Host 1]

Back in the day.

[Co-host 2]

Back in the day, boy. Hey, hey, you had. Hey, hey. Want them two arms go up like this here? Oo. Hey, know what it is, baby?

[Host 1]

Hey, hey, hey, keep your hunt, man. Come on, man, I'm trying to. Gray, keep your arms up here. Hey, Frankenstein. Damn. Get your ass back in the corner, man.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, he said he trying to touch off. Yeah, I already know. Hey, man, let me tell y' all something. Back in the day, boy, the little house parties that. That we used to go to, man. Yeah, yeah, they used to have when y' all was growing up too. You know, this before you could really go to a club, you know, if you six.

[Host 1]

Yeah, for sure.

[Co-host 2]

18, 19. Oh, boy, we used to go to some mean house parties. I'm telling it was nothing like that.

[Host 1]

Hey, hey, Joe, that's about. Keep. Keep the light, man. How you gonna dance with the light on?

[Co-host 1]

Oh, hey, boy, them some good days, boy. Oh, them some good days.

[Host 1]

Hey, they break about to break out that purple rain.

[Co-host 2]

You hear me?

[Host 1]

It's over. It's over then.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, damn.

[Co-host 2]

Never be the same, bro.

[Host 1]

No, it'll never be like that.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, think about it.

[Host 1]

It'll never be like that again.

[Co-host 2]

No.

[Co-host 1]

You.

[Co-host 2]

You used to could go to the club and they'll have a dance floor and you could dance. And hell, it's so many damn sections in the club now that hell ain't nothing for dancing. Yeah,

[Co-host 1]

everybody on their phone, Joe. Everybody.

[Host 1]

Everybody in the section. Everybody taking pictures of their bottles. The women up there taking a picture of themselves. You know, they got that, you know, got the duck outside and everything. All the clubs ain't no place for dancing.

[Co-host 1]

It ain't.

[Co-host 2]

No.

[Co-host 1]

It ain't the same.

[Host 1]

And it used to be. Hey, they play. They, they, they get about an hour. So a fast up tempo.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Then they gonna hit you by 15 minutes of slow stuff. Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, but that's why. That's why when I step out now, I, I go holl at. It may be Brian Michael Cox or Jermaine Dupree. When they doing the R B? The R B Wednesdays or Thursdays. The Jagged Edge twins. Uncle Ocho.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Got a little something they do out here, but it be all R B. Oh, you talking about a vibe.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, when that is, Joe, I think

[Co-host 2]

the twins do something on the, the Jagged Edge twins. I think it's on a Thursday. I'm gonna have to find out. I hadn't been in a while, Ocho. But when I'm. When I tell you, man. Hey, they had live. They had karaoke in there, and they play the music. But you know, women, they love R B, bro.

[Co-host 1]

Yes, sir.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, look, I don't know about y', all, but I, I, I, I don't want to be around a bunch of hard leagues. You hear that?

[Host 1]

My great. Hey. Yep. Yeah, my grandpa used to call the boy. Hey, boy, you hanging around with too many hard ankles.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, I gotta come check that out, Joe. You know, you know, I'm, I'm. I'm a sucker for live music, Joe.

[Co-host 2]

I'm. I'mma send you.

[Host 1]

You know what I'm saying? We at the age now, look, twerking's fine, but I ain't trying to see a whole bunch of it. Not you hear me? Nah.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah. If you see some twerking, you want it to be in your bedroom or something. Yeah, I already know.

[Host 1]

You know.

[Co-host 2]

Hey.

[Host 1]

Cause I got. My eyes are working. What you call them? Slow mo.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So, you know, they might be doing it fast, but my eyes are focused.

[Co-host 1]

Yes. Yes, sir.

[Co-host 2]

I like that.

[Co-host 1]

I like that R B. Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Those were the days. Those were the days you to have a party. We have, you know, the eighth grade dance and the homecoming dance and, you know, all that.

[Co-host 1]

Hold on. What about prom? Don't leave prom out.

[Host 1]

I didn't go to prom. I didn't go to prom. In high school, Joe Ocho and Joe.

[Co-host 1]

Wow.

[Host 1]

Cause we had a track meet. So coach. Coach Hall. Coach hall would always say, look, guys, okay, this is when the prom is. I can schedule a track meet. I ain't had no girl. I'm running.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I'm trying to figure out how the prom is gonna get me to college. Oh, boy, you.

[Co-host 1]

Well, you had your head on your shoulders, boy.

[Host 1]

Hey, okay. Hey, now. Once I. I had. I had a girlfriend out my sophomore year. Yes, sir, I had a girlfriend and I went. But after that, her senior. I didn't go. We had broke, broken up, but I didn't go. I didn't go, and I didn't go to the prom. In high school, I was running track.

[Co-host 2]

Well, locked in.

[Host 1]

Oh, look, Coach all say, hey, I'm going to say, look, I can schedule a track meet or y' all go to the prom. And some guys. Some guys that went to the prom, they didn't go. That wasn't me.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, right.

[Host 1]

In the one year it was on, it was the state track meet, was that. And coach all said, I'm going to the state track meet. I said, well, I'll be there with you. That's what I love track about the track so much. Cause sometimes guys want to bull jive and, you know, didn't want to take it serious and work hard and train hard. Let me get my individual events. So we don't go as a team. As a relay team.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I'm going in three events. You going to cut up? I sure am. So that was my. That was my thought process. So I didn't. I didn't go to the problem. But them dance, them homecoming dances, or somebody would have a. Yeah. Oh, yeah, man.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, good days.

[Co-host 2]

Boy, the music back. The music back then, boy, it was different, Joe.

[Co-host 1]

It was different. The music back then had meaning, Joe, man.

[Host 1]

Yeah, it.

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It had mean. It's like. It's like when you cook and you use seasoning. Everything they sang about had flavor back then, man. There was a message to everything that was saying. They used to beg back then, Unc.

[Host 1]

You hear me?

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, they used to beg. We don't beg no more.

[Host 1]

Nah, they can't beg no more, Ojo. It's a different time now.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, hey, they can say what they want to, but, boy, when they put their kills on that. That slow dance. Hey, hey, Mr. DJ.

[Host 1]

Hey, why don't all they want to

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man, Listen, But, Joe. Ocho, y' all can't have it slow the whole night. Sometimes we gotta put that parliament on that flashlight. Now I lay me down. Hey, flashlight. Yeah, yeah, but it was the day.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, there was the days, man.

[Host 1]

There was a day we. Hey, we didn't have, what you call them, an old school. We didn't have an old school jail.

[Co-host 2]

That's what I'm saying, man. Y' all playing, bro? I'm ready.

[Host 1]

What we doing?

[Co-host 2]

We doing karaoke or we just vibing?

[Host 1]

What we doing? Oh, I'm ready.

[Co-host 1]

Hey, karaoke, Joe. That's up my alley, Joe.

[Host 1]

Hey, before we go any further. Hey, next year, go ahead and put it. We going to the Kentucky Derby.

[Co-host 2]

We're going to Kentucky Derby.

[Host 1]

We going to Kentucky Derby next year, go ahead and put it in. Go and put it on the calendar. I know you ain't never been on, Joe. I don't think you've ever been. I've been once.

[Co-host 1]

I ain't never been crazy. Cincinnati right there.

[Host 1]

Yes, we flew. I flew into Cincinnati.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. Louisville right down, right across. Yep, I'm in Cincinnati 11, 12 years, Joe. I ain't go to Kentucky Derby, not one year.

[Co-host 2]

Damn.

[Host 1]

You gotta go. It's all about. It's all about the women in their hat and the guy you gotta have. You gotta get your brim, though. Joe, Joe, Joe, you gotta get your brimming.

[Co-host 2]

We got to put it on.

[Host 1]

Got to put it on the rim.

[Co-host 2]

Say less, say less.

[Host 1]

Women might not even have on no shoes, but they going to have a nice ass hat on.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, hey, you ain't seen that many

[Host 1]

hat since you went to fourth Sunday at the church. You hear me? Everybody had a hat on.

[Co-host 2]

Well, what. My grandma, she had a closet full of hats. You hear me?

[Host 1]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My grand. My grandma for church.

[Co-host 1]

You talking about the church? Yeah, boy.

[Host 1]

My grandma got buried in one of hers. She told. He already told my sister with the outfit, she wanted everything on. She want her glasses. She want to teach you on a hat on.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, everything.

[Host 1]

Yes, yes, yes, sir.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 1]

And my sister still got all the other hats, but it's just like I ain't get them away.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, what, What? What? What was that about, though? Because I'm talking about, man, my grandma got it. I'm talking about. She probably got over 100 something hats, bro.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, easy, My grandma, too. She. My grandma was the Eastern star, Joe. She sang in the choir. She was. She was a. She was a deaconess.

[Host 1]

Deaconess. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

She had a hat for every dress.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Yep.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

How you have a hat and a purse to match?

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Yep.

[Co-host 1]

What are we. What are we doing?

[Host 1]

I ain't never seen my girl. I've never seen my grandmother go to church. And I went to church with my grandmother from the time I can remember until I left in 1986. And occasionally I would come home and go with her on. On a fourth Sunday.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

But say from I can remember. 74.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

To 8, I never seen my grandmother in church without a hat.

[Co-host 2]

Me neither, bro.

[Host 1]

Never.

[Co-host 2]

Me neither.

[Host 1]

Ever.

[Co-host 2]

Saying, is it any significance behind that? I never asked her why she would. Or they just like the style like that. They were styled.

[Host 1]

I just think big grandma. But grandma. I think I might have saw Grandma Lou, which was my. My great grandma. Grandma Lou, occasionally. She didn't always wear a hat, but those women. Those women had them hats. If you. All the deacon. All the deacon. All the deacon wives had a hat on.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And the mother of the church had a hat on. So I. I don't know what's the significance of it, of why, you know, the more men. The man wore brims.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

My grandfather. They go to church. My grandfather wore one hat all the time. He one of those guys. He was fedora. He always had a hat to church. Unless he was. I think he might have. Thank you. Mighty. Wore hats in the field when he was working in the fields.

[Co-host 1]

And. And you know what's funny, too? And Joe.

[Co-host 2]

What's that?

[Co-host 1]

You know who had the. The best hat collection? It wasn't my grandma. It wasn't. It was. It was. It wasn't anybody else, but it was the pastor's wife. Yeah, the pastor's wife. I never forget Mount Olivet Baptist Church. Reverend Clark, his wife. I mean, I'm not sure if they still alive after all this time, Joe. Man, she was head to toe every Sunday.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Hat, hat, master purse. Purse, master heels. And everything just floated. I'm talking about so clean.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

So clean.

[Host 1]

But that's what the derby. Hey, I. Like I said, I went. I went in. Actually, I was. I talked to Thurman, he and his wife, because that's who was there. That's who I hung out with. Thurman Thomas and his wife Patty. I think Warren. Warren Moon was there. There are a lot. There are a lot of. You know, there are a lot of celebs that come. But I'm saying the little, the little group that I was with. So hey, we go get our own little group. We go get this thing up. So go ahead and pencil in first weekend the first Saturday of May. Yeah, we're going to the derby next year.

[Co-host 1]

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[Host 1]

Jaylen Brown believe Joel Embiid was rewarded for flopping in Game 7. We didn't really have an answer for him. He's always flopping around and they rewarded him for that. But that's the league we're in. Flopping has ruined our league. Joel is one of the greatest players that's played basketball. But he flops. He knows it too. In addition to being frustrated with a be with a bead, Brown says he felt targeted by the official. If I had to say, there are some referees that need to be investigated. We had three of them in the last three games. Joe, does JB have a point calling out Embiid? Say he flops a lot or he's making excuses for why? How his team blew a 31 lead.

[Co-host 2]

I think he's. He's still a little pissed off, Uncle Ocho, about the loss?

[Host 1]

Yes, sir.

[Co-host 2]

You know, and it's still early, so it still lingers. But do I. Do I say he flops a lot? I would say he. He flails. Meaning, you know, a guy his size, you don't expect for him every time he get touched or when he get touched, going through the lane for him to flail and be looking for a foul. You expect for those guys to play through the contact. But this is how the great scores in our league today are able to manipulate the game and get what they want. You know what I mean? Like, Joel knows he has to put his stamp on the game, and by that, if it's getting guys in foul trouble to where he can go to the free throw line, get a couple easy ones, things of that sort. So if you're not playing great offensively, you have to find ways to still be effective. And I think Joel has done a great job. He's done a great job in that series, bro. You know, JB Got to give him credit. And it's always. You know, you always feel like they're against you when they. You know, they continue to call fouls. I think JB had a game, especially the last two games, the way he was kind of in foul trouble, so I can kind of understand where he's coming from. But, man, it's a part of the game now, bro. You. You can't take it out. You know, they used.

[Host 1]

They.

[Co-host 2]

They would used to talk about, oh, we gonna find you for flopping this hell when last time y' all heard somebody getting fined.

[Host 1]

Nobody.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, there's a lot of flailing and flopping going on in the league, bro. You can't distinguish what's, what's, what's authentic and what's not.

[Co-host 1]

Right?

[Host 1]

Exactly. Here's the problem that I got. It wasn't a flopping. It was y'. All dumb play, jb. Y' all down one point, and you come down and launch five, six straight threes. So what about that? I'm just trying to figure out, Joe, you're down 1, you're not down 11, you're down 1, you don't want to run not one play. You shoot a three, you get the rebound, you jack up another three, you get the rebound, you shoot another three. I'm like, well, are you serious? And I get it. A lot of people look at Joel and B to say, bro, you decide the Shaq Shaq ain't never flopped. When they file Shaq, you know, they found. But they had to or he gonna dunk your ass in the basket. So you really, really had to file Shaq. Yeah, but in today's game, that's not. They reward flopping, and they do. And, and, and guys have found ways. They've got really, really creative at fooling the officials. I mean, sometimes you swing by the guy's face and he'll fall. Oh, Lord.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, and look, this is why the scoring is up in the NBA. Because back in the 80s and 90s and 70s, Uncle Ocho, you could hand check, you could do all that. That shit wasn't no foul. Nowadays you can't hand check. Guy come through the lane, you chug him, that's a foul. You know, everything is borderline flagrant. You can review everything. Well, damn. You know, the game, that's a lot different.

[Host 1]

A prime example, Jayla Suz twist his own damn ankle at the half court, at the heave at halftime. And they reviewed it. They made it seem like K. Cunningham did something. He tripped his own damn self.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Host 1]

Tony Brothers had to go look at the, look at the monitor. There was no file. Hell, I could have told you that. But guess what? He twisted on damn ankle.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

K. They touch him and then he laying down there and the fish is like, well, damn. Ain't no possible way he would be faking. Woody, let's go take a look at it. Come to find out he tripped his own damn self.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 1]

So I think I understand. I look you up 3 1. You just know you got this thing in the bag. It's over. It's over. But the thing, but the, the, the. What helped y' all get those leads again? You was 13 to 49. Use 27 from the three. When they start getting to the high teens, the low 20s, they're unbeatable because they take so many threes.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Now you only, you only plus six points from the three point line. You're not gonna beat that team.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Because you really don't have an answer for Joel Embiid. And then you let Maxey get going. You let Edgecombe get going. Paul George only shot 10 shots, but he made five of them. They didn't get anything from the bench. They only got three points from the bench. Where the Celtics got 30, 41. They got 41 from their bench. But think about it. Lou Garza, zero points. Ron Harper Jr. Zero points. Shearman, zero points. So you got three starters. They gave you nothing.

[Co-host 1]

So you you think JB had a good game, right?

[Host 1]

Yeah, he did.

[Co-host 1]

JB had a good game. He had 33. You think if Jason Tatum played, it might have been different?

[Host 1]

Maybe. Yeah, maybe.

[Co-host 2]

I think it would have been different. Hell, he wouldn't have had no donut.

[Host 1]

Exactly.

[Co-host 2]

You know what I'm saying?

[Host 1]

He did something.

[Co-host 2]

I think, I think the biggest thing for Philly is that they got, they got a post player and be. See, Boston don't have it. That's why they shoot so many damn threes. They live and die by the three. Cause who posts up on their team? Jb. Yeah, but they don't really, they don't really post up a lot, but they will. You know what I mean? But MB is in the post every play. You feel me? Yeah. He may take a three, he may take a mid range, but for the most part, we know we can dump it down to him and he probably gonna get us a foul or, or some buckets.

[Co-host 1]

A bucket. One or the other.

[Co-host 2]

It ain't many.

[Host 1]

A wide open look because you better come doubling.

[Co-host 2]

So it ain't many teams that have bigs that's left in the NBA that can really do a little bit of both. Meaning score inside out. Embiid is probably one of the most unique ones I know. The Knicks have some okc, the spurs, hell, even I like Minnesota with Drew Randall.

[Host 1]

Yeah, but Joe, why, why you trade for Vucevich if you're not gonna, if you're not gonna play him, right? Yeah. He's the guy that can pull Joel Embiid from the basket. He's a guy that can rebound, he can pass the basketball. Why not play Vucevich? If you traded for him and you gave up a guy that was pretty good off the bench and the guy you got from Portland.

[Co-host 2]

Wow. Anthony Simons, I think. You know what? I don't know. I wonder if Vucevich was too much of a liability defensively, you know, considering the fact that he'd be guarding Embiid and that pick and roll, him having to guard Maxi or get back to MB because defensively, hell, he ain't gonna give you none defensively. You just got to hope he makes shots offensively. Speaking of Vusable. So I, I, I, I don't know. I don't know what Boston was doing and you know that part, but give Philly credit, bro. I want to give Paul George credit, too. I think he was pretty consistent throughout this whole series. I agree. Did he erupt for 30 or 40 points? Nah. But that ain't what they need right now? Nope, they didn't need that for him. They needed him to be consistent and play great defense. I think a lot of what he done did not show up in the stat sheet. I thought he played great defense on Tatum and Brown. I did too.

[Host 1]

And maybe, you know, the thing is that Paul George is going to have to be able to defend because, you know, look, Uber, I thought, you know, they put Uber on Brown, they tried Paul George, they could throw a lot of different looks at him. And so now Brunson, you talked Edge can probably go to start out on Brunson.

[Co-host 2]

You think so? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's.

[Host 1]

The question is they're probably going to start Mikhail Bridges or OG on.

[Co-host 2]

On Maxi.

[Host 1]

Maxi, you can't put Brunson on him.

[Co-host 2]

I think they start Bridges on Max and OG gonna have to deal with Paul George. Yeah, I don't. I think if you. Philly, though, I don't think the Knicks really, really scare you. Kind of like how Boston, because of Tatum and Brown, that's so prolific as far as scoring. Yeah, we know OG can score. He didn't have big games, especially in the series against the Hawks. Bridges can, you know, give or take. But I don't think this should be too, too tough of a series for Philly, fellas, if y' all really want. You know, I think Philly got some guys who they can throw at at Boston.

[Co-host 1]

Right?

[Co-host 2]

And I mean got some guys that can throw at the Knicks and give them hell, man. They got. They got some guys coming up that bench who can go too.

[Host 1]

Yeah, you.

[Co-host 1]

So you. Damn, you didn't. Damn, Joe, you didn't gave a goddamn series to Philly, huh?

[Co-host 2]

I just. I'm leaning a little bit toward Philly.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Co-host 2]

I know people gonna say, damn, they. The Knicks beat his hog, so he ain't. Now I just. What I seen from Philly, obviously, Maxi and if Embiid can continue to play like this, we ain't got no back to backs, Uncle Ocho.

[Host 1]

No. Right.

[Co-host 2]

You know, you're gonna have at least a day or two in between. So I think that should keep MB pretty healthy. And I just think the Knicks gonna have. They gonna have a problem trying to stop him because what do you do? Do you double him or do you play him one on one and let him get his points? If you double him and you open up the floodgates for Ubere, Paul George, Edgecomb, Grimes coming off the bench. Ed was coming off the bench. They got guys who can, who can shoot that ball and who can score. So I just feel. I feel like Philly got. They got what it takes.

[Host 1]

And you remember last time he was beat up? He said he's probably 30, 40%. He had that big old knee brace on.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Now he's much. He's much. He's more healthy.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Said he was the last time they played. They got their hands full. Yeah, they're gonna have their hands full now, but it's gonna be a good. It's gonna be a great. Yeah, I think it's gonna be a really good series. I think it's gonna be a good series. Cat's gonna have to break. Gonna have to play some of his best ball. But Cat can pull him away from the basket.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, he can pull him away from the basket. But if you. Philly, you thinking, damn it. Can Cat really beat us from the three, though? I mean, he g. Have to go 6 for 10 from three to really beat us.

[Host 1]

He's capable of doing it, too.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, well, he gonna have to show us. He gonna have to show us now.

[Co-host 1]

But he gotta keep.

[Co-host 2]

Huh?

[Co-host 1]

No, he got. He gotta stay down there in that. In that goddamn.

[Host 1]

They can't bang with. They can't bang with Embiid.

[Co-host 2]

No, sir.

[Host 1]

That ain't no matchup. You want posted up Embiid?

[Co-host 2]

No, sir. You want to keep Embiid away from that basket.

[Co-host 1]

Now, now, you take now. You take now. You make him one dimensional. He makes himself one dimensional. Let's say he can't. Let's say maybe he can't because Embiid is much bigger. Go down there and prove and prove him wrong.

[Host 1]

No, you ain't gonna prove.

[Co-host 1]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no.

[Host 1]

This is not the time. This ain't a chance. They didn't say the time to be proving nothing.

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[Co-host 1]

Hey, Cat. Cat made his presence in the last series. He made his president felt down in the box. Not by the goddamn arc.

[Host 1]

That's a Kong. Woo. That's not Joel Embiid. And then you got another big body when he. Joel and B goes to the benches. Drum Dog. He ain't got no bricks in his back pocket.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, they got. Hey, they. They match up well from. Because look, if you got Mitchell Robinson playing against Drummond. That's a hell of a matchup, Uncle Ocho. Yeah. Cat against MB Gonna be a hell of a matchup considering the history that they have. It's been a little chippy when they play against each other. I think if Cat. Yeah, if Cat making that jump shot it's gonna be a long series, but I. I can't see him being consistent to where he going. 5 for 8, 6 for 10 from 3, because that's what he gonna need.

[Host 1]

But here's the thing. Matt Brunson gotta guard. Somebody put him on. Paul George. Paul George, get your ass down in the post.

[Co-host 2]

Yep.

[Host 1]

Uh, you got a decided advantage.

[Co-host 2]

That's who we gonna go that. He gonna guard Uber. He ain't guarding Maxi.

[Host 1]

Okay, well, hey. Well, hey, Uber, I'm need you to. Hey, Uber could get some easy buckets down there.

[Co-host 2]

Well, he got Uber gotta stay busy, Uncle Ocho, meaning he can't be a standstill target just waiting for the ball to come to him. He got to know cutting back, though, setting back kicks. You gotta do the little small my new things to be. To be effective in this series for Uber. Yes, he can catch and shoot the three. I think he gonna do that well. But at the same time, he can't let Brunson just rest. So, you know, you got to keep his ass second guessing, bro. Be in the pick and roll, be the screener. You know how you seek out. Okay, boom, Brunson, guard. Uber will come. Uber, you come set this pick. You know, I think that's.

[Host 1]

That's.

[Co-host 2]

That's typically. I think it's going to be Philly's approach. And Max is always going to be looking to probably get that mismatch. Get Brunson on him.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Co-host 1]

I don't like. I don't like. I don't like what I'm hearing from y', all, man.

[Co-host 2]

What you don't like?

[Co-host 1]

I don't like. I don't like what I'm hearing from y'.

[Co-host 2]

All. What you want to be game one? You want to bet on game one?

[Co-host 1]

Hey, not Joe. Joe. You ain't pay me from. You ain't pay me from the Hulk series, Joe. So we're gonna leave it alone. I don't like the fact that we ain't giving the goddamn Nick's credit after they was with. After what you did to the host. I don't like the fact that. Let me finish. Let me finish. I don't like the fact that we not giving goddamn car. Anthony Towns, you know, any credit just because he getting ready to face goddamn Joel and B and goddamn Drummond saying, oh, he can't go down in the block and he can't post up because they that much bigger. I don't like that. We ain't giving them boys no credit. I don't like the fact that you Basically telling me, goddamn cat can't handle goddamn game unless he shoot the midi or the goddamn three all series long.

[Host 1]

What's his advantage? So when you still can't allow them

[Co-host 1]

to dictate and make you one dimensional because we feel he can't do it, he don't have no choice but to do it.

[Host 1]

He don't have.

[Co-host 1]

I'm just saying, first of all, cat

[Host 1]

is not a post player. That's not what he can post. But he would prefer.

[Co-host 1]

What did he show us he could do in the last series but he's posted up 7 foot tall.

[Host 1]

He's posting up a guy.

[Co-host 2]

Six, nine.

[Host 1]

Joel Embiid is 7 2, 300 plus. Okay. Oh, okay.

[Co-host 2]

Nah, we ain't going.

[Host 1]

Okay.

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