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Shannon Sharpe
I turned off news altogether.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Abdul Carter was benched for the first series of Sunday's loss to the packers. The Athletics Dan Duggan reported that the Abdul missed walkthrough because he was asleep at the team facility at the time, which resulted in his benching for the opening series against the Packers. Duggan further reported Carter lateness to meetings was a trend that the former head coach, Brian Dayball didn't address. Was not. Was not sleep, actually, during recovery. Nonetheless, that's on me. Yeah, when they hate. When the hate don't work, they start telling lies.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, obviously, the. The recovery thing might have been. Might have been true. It might have been true. But I know one thing, that stadium is open very early, long before it's time for meetings. You get in there early enough, get that recovery, get you some need. Get you some breakfast. So you don't do recovery when, you know you got meetings coming up real soon.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ocho, I don't know about y'. All. I'm just. I can see chat. I don't know how they have it now. Like I said, I haven't played in two decades. Ocho. It's been 15. It's been 15 years since Ocho played. God damn, Ocho. Normally, even if you're getting treatment. All right, Sharpie, you got walkthrough. Okay, Sharpie, gotta. You got me. That's what. That's what the training staff would say. That's what they would say. And I'm not saying. They didn't say that. I'm not saying. But I'm just saying when I was in Denver, when I was in Baltimore, if I was getting treatment or they would have relayed to the coach, Sharp is getting treatment. He's not going to be at walkthrough. Right, but that wasn't going to fly with Mike. Mike gonna say, I want you to. I want you out there. Yeah, okay, fine. No problem. But I just. I just. I just don't. I just don't get these guys, man. Oh, my goodness. Like I said, and this is why I couldn't play now. This is why I couldn't coach now. Because this is not winning behavior. Look at the teams that win. And. And. And we don't. We don't hear about stuff like this. Teams that win.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You notice that, Ocho?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you're right. You're right. But listen, also, the teams that win, I'm sure they have players that have these issues. Not a lot of them. Maybe once. Maybe here and there.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know, everybody, y' all came late to New England.
Shannon Sharpe
Who?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Shit. Who?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah, okay. And please, ain't nobody playing with Bill like That man.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Mike was like, hey, guys. I mean, look, might hit you hard. Cause, like, okay, you get fine. Like, you overweight. Let's just say for the sake of argument, ocho, my weight.230.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Now it's 50 a pound, and I say I can't. I weighed in at. At 233, so that's $150. The next time is double. It's $100 a pound.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You late. Late cost you 2500. Or you could pay 1200 in front of the team and then tell them why you had to pay 1200. Right?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And it's embarrassing to walk that. To walk that cash down there.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it is. I mean, listen, Marvin got me like that, you know, maybe. Maybe three times. Three times during my career. Not. Not being late. No, I. I wasn't. I wasn't late, But. But being overweight, being overweight, he got me a few times. So I.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Man, look here.
Shannon Sharpe
First time I was overweight, I missed weight. I had to Pay. Shoot, about 200.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What.
Shannon Sharpe
What.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What. What was your way? 173. And you weigh 175?
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no, no. I was supposed to be at 205, and I came in at 220. Yeah. So they. They understood that wasn't my ideal plan. Weight, where I could. I could play well, where I could maximize my potential, you know, being that. Being that heavy. And. And so, man, I had to put on what you call it. Not the garbage bag, what you call those things to lose. To lose weight.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. The.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I had to. I had to put that on and.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That, like, it's like latex. It's like a plastic bag. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
Shannon Sharpe
Start walking, you start sweating.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Guys, practice was practice. We practice in that practice. Yeah. Guys would actually d. Line me with practicing it.
Shannon Sharpe
Wow. You will fall out.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's something. No, them guys were practicing it. They practiced. They didn't have the pants on, but they'd have the jackets.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, the top.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Yeah. I. I'm. I'm thankful. I. I've never had a weight problem. So like I said, Mike would always ask me, I was like, hey, this is what I want my weight to be. He, like, Sharpie, you know? Are you sure? You look. We. We know. We know when it comes to season time, you're going to be where you need to be. So if you need to be a couple of. I said, nope, I want to be here. I come in 28. I come in at 32. I start the season at 28.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Good.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Ocho got some bad news. According to Adam Schefter, Michael Pennock suffered a partially torn ACL in Sunday's game and his loss against the Panthers. Pennix is seeking a second opinion opinion. But this is not encouraging. This is expected to be the fifth season ending injury for Pennix in his eight college and NFL seasons. Third ACL. He tore his ACL in 2020. I mean, excuse me, in 2018. 2020. And now he has a partially torn ACL in 2025.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. Wait, so. So out of eight years he's been. He's been injured five out of eight.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
College including season ending.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
See, because one year I think he had a shoulder injury.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, I think when he was at Indiana. If I'm not, I might, I might be wrong. I could be wrong. But I think when he was at Indiana before he went to Washington.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Y.
Shannon Sharpe
That sucks, man. That, that, that. That totally sucks. That, that totally sucks. I hate that. I hate that. For him, obviously they weren't having the season, you know, they, they would want to have, but I think obviously the growing pains and being a rookie with it being, you know, your first time starting and getting the full reps, getting accustomed to how the game flows and how it goes and, and you know, the ups and downs of being the starting quarterback for a franchise. You need those reps. You need those reps. And I'm sure after this season ended, he would have been much better.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Being familiar with everything, the system, the play calling, the, the team, just. Just everything together. Damn, that, that totally sucks to be. For him to have a season in an injury and be behind eight ball and at that point, anything acl. There's no need for a second opinion. There's no need for a second opinion. Go in there, get the work that needs to be done so you can get back that much faster going to the following year, which you're having what, six, six, seven, maybe you got, got a good, got a good six, seven.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, I mean you, I mean, look, this November, so you have the surgery. So you got December, January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August. That's nine months.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you know, that's plenty of time.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Is it the same leg? Is it the same knee? I just hope he can have a career like Thomas Davis. Thomas Davis tore his ACL three times and came back to be an all world linebacker for the Carolina Panthers. So let's just hope if it's a situation like that because he ended up having a very promising NFL career after tearing his ACL as many times as he did.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn, man, that's, that's, it's some, some.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Drake London got hurt as well. I saw something with Drake.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, he's gonna be. I think he's gonna be out at least this week.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn, man. Like these injuries, dude, I'm.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
The Falcons dropped the quarterback at the top 10. Paid a different quarterback 180 million to avoid being in the quarterback purgatory. Somehow they year and a half later, they're in quarterback purgatory. Raheem Morris after drafting Michael Pennix Jr. At number eight. We're talking about winning the NFC south and going to the playoffs. We don't want to be picking that high anymore. We don't want to be in that position that helped us make this decision. Say things to say they're not going his way. They're not going as well as they'd hoped. It didn't make sense to me.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That you, that you pay cousins that kind of money coming off the injury that he had and still sign a quarterback. Yeah, a quarterback with. I get it, Ocho. But he still had an injury history.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I mean, think about it. You think it's hard for me to see a scenario where they would select any other player at any other position that's coming off that, that's. His career would have been ended like four times before coming to the NFL. So let that sink in. So let's just say he had five years and four of those years, his season ended with a season in the injury. You're probably not going in the top 10.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But also, but I just hope, like I said, I hope he can have a Thomas Davis type.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Because Thomas ended up going to Pro Bowls and helping the team get to the Super Bowl. But it's tough. I, I, I can just imagine rehab all over again. Oo. And the thing is, when you rehab, you can't train. No, you re. You just hoping to get back to a point where you have functionality. Training is where you put your body into a situation where, hey, you can call on it and you know it'll answer. He don't get to do that. You gotta, you gotta rehab.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That ain't what you do with rehab. Rehab just gets you back to where you were. I'm trying to get farther than where I was. Where I was. It's, I mean, I feel, I feel bad for the young man.
Shannon Sharpe
I hate injuries, dude, because I understand how much it sits, it sets players back. Especially when you want to improve year to year.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
The season ends, you want to improve in your game, you want to add new things to your game, you know, to be able to help, not just help you out, but help your coaches, help your players. Because the better you come back from a skill set is the easier you make everyone else in job around you. That's, that's, that's what I always thought about. How can I make everyone else job around me? All right, when we have a game, when we have a game or we got an officer playing Carson, you don't have to worry about me. Bob Rakowski, Marvin Lewis, you don't have to worry about me now. Just focus on the other 10. Offensively, you already know I'll be there for you no matter what you need. No matter what you need. So I, I always try to put that mindset in the players when you get in season. That's just coaching. That's just X's and no's. You're not getting any better in season.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, you put it's gonna be hard for you to maintain your strength.
Shannon Sharpe
Bingo.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Guess what, Ocho? Your shoulders hurt, your hips hurt, your joints hurt. It's hard for you to get up under that weight and squat and do leg press and bench. I mean you, you know, you do it as long as you can, but some days, hey, my elbows just hurt, my shoulders hurt. I can't get up under that heavy ass weight and press it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Hey, you get the bulky of work, the meat potatoes. You getting better as a player, you know, from, from a skill point is the off season. That's why the offseason is so important. That's why taking the time off, that's necessary. When the season ends, you get into that work, I'm telling you. Hey, receivers, come on, come on down here. I'll let your boy, you know it. All these injuries, I, I can stop all these injuries. Listen to me. Everybody like to laugh and he, he and haha. Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
All right, Ocho. The Falcons do not have a first round pick. That first round pick belongs to the Rams.
Shannon Sharpe
The Rams in Minnesota.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
The Rams.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They didn't have a give of anything for Cousins. Cousins was a free agent.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, that's right, that's right. You're right, you're right.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But I think about it. Oo, name another position. A guy comes off an Achilles injury after his 11 12th year in the league, right. And gets that kind of contract. Name a position other than a quarterback.
Shannon Sharpe
No, there, there is none because they understand how valuable the quarterback position is. That's why you take a chance. You understand it's hard to get quarterbacks that have put up the numbers that Kirk Cousins has put up, even though he only had one playoff win. It's extremely difficult. Extremely difficult. That's why taking a chance on a player like Kirk Cousins despite his history, you know, and not making a playoff despite the injury coming off in Achilles. Okay, you know what? Well, he's not a dual threat quarterback anyway. You know, once that Achilles heals up, he can be able to do what he, what he normally does as a functioning quarterback. He's a willing and dealing quarterback.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Just like he will. He's a, he's surgical with the ball. He just is. That's him. We gonna take a chance and we're gonna give him that kind of money. And then also the type of, type of player, type of person he is. He's a high character guy, you know? You know, so you're willing to take that the way take that chance. You're willing to make that investment.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
This is not no hindsight, but I told you at the time, I said, ocho, this contract just doesn't make sense to me to guarantee that type of money.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
For a guy that, now if that's Tom Brady, that's Peyton Manning type. Okay, I get it. They're certified. You know, they, they, they are, they're approved. But for a guy that hadn't had postseason success and, and he's had, coming off an Achilles injury and he's not mobile to begin with, he's gonna be less mobile. Yeah, it didn't make sense to me. And then you go draft a quarterback. If that was the case, why not? Why just save that money oo and just go get you a quarterback if that's, if that was the route you wanted to take.
Shannon Sharpe
You have to think about it, huh? Where they gonna get one from? Where, where you gonna get in the.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Draft like they went and got Pinics from?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh yeah. Hey, listen, you understand how difficult it is to find a franchise altering quarterback. You understand how different that is? Because.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So yeah, because it's one franchise altering.
Shannon Sharpe
No, but he, he can, he, he can help you compete week to week. He can help you compete. Look at, look at, look at what's going on right now. And some of the teams that have been struggling for years to actually find a good decent quarterback because you know, once you get one, just let him be, let's let him be good.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They took, they took Atlanta in 2021 draft. They took Kyle Pitts number four. Guess who went number five that year.
Shannon Sharpe
Who?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Jamar Chase.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Jalen waddle with six. Panay Sewell went seventh. J.C. horn went eight. Pants are tan the second with nine. Devontae Smith went ten.
Shannon Sharpe
All eight.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Michael, Michael with 12. Rashawn Slater went 13. I mean if you take a tight end that high, you gotta use them. But when they do use your Kyle, you're gonna have to catch the ball now. And it's, and I know it's problem because he gets the ball so infrequently. He's trying to hit his head on the goal post every time he gets the ball because he's like, I don't know when I'm gonna get another chance. And he get, and I've never seen somebody score without the ball. You gotta get you, you gotta catch it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And I know, like I said, I understand the frustration of, of, of this will be because you know, he came on and told us, hey, the chemistry that he and, and Phoenix had.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They were, they were talking pigs were talking about it in, in camp, and he was talking about. He came on Nightcap and talked about it.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And I don't know. Give me the coaches that were hired. Oh, they interviewed. They interviewed Jim Harbaugh. The Falcons interviewed Jim Harbaugh. Yeah. They said no. They interviewed Mike Vrabel. They said no. They interviewed Mike McDonald. Mac McDonald's. They said no. I think they interviewed Ben Johnson. They said no. I'm happy Raheem got the job, but Mr. Blank probably like, damn.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you got. You got to work with what you got. You got to work with what you got.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I just, it was Slow Neck Johnson.
Shannon Sharpe
Harbaugh, Belichick, McDonald, Callahan, Wilkes Grable, Joe Brady.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Well, he did a good job passing on some of them. Ocho, he gonna have to get it together, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Because I. Look, they're getting restless. They're getting restless in Atlanta.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, them players got to help you out, man.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They do.
Shannon Sharpe
Playing players and players got to help you out. Listen, the old, the old adage, players will get you fired.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
They will get you fired.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They can get you hired and fired.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Man, I feel for Raheem, man. Damn. I just thought this was gonna be hopefully, turn it around. Oh, yeah. And Coach Belichick, man. Man, y' all saw Coach Belichick. The guy took his hat off. Yeah, we go talk about that. Ocho, did you see that?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I saw it, man.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Billy, the coach took his hat off, the shake, and you can't even look the man in his eye. Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Bill, do everybody like that, though. So I, I, he can't. He can't feel bad. You look at, you look at Bill at the end of Patriots games, and you keep, keep it moving. He making a beeline.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You said an example. You ain't said no example in the interface. Because he's done this. Now. Think about how many times in the AFC Championship game that a Tony Dungey.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
A Bill Cower or a Rex Ryan has had to come out there and talk to cbs. This is. This is really what rubbed me the wrong way. And I think Coach Belichick is the greatest NFL coach ever.
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But this is what rubbed me the wrong way is that the rules don't apply to him, and the NFL has let this behavior go on. But let a player don't want to do the media and say, you know what? I don't want to do the media day. I'm gonna let Ocho go do it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They gonna. Doc. They gonna dock me money.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But he's supposed to do It. And he said, some special teams guy out there, some backup lineman. We ain't. Ain't nobody ever heard of him but his family.
Shannon Sharpe
Mm.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's what rubbed me the wrong way. That man took his hat off to shake your hand, and then you like, like, basically give him your butt. That's, that's, that's always rubbed me the wrong way about him.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It always have. And, and two things can be true. He can be great and be a jackass at the same time.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. And he's always.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And that bothers me.
Shannon Sharpe
You heard me, huh? He's always been this way. And he not changing. That's the funny part. Well, I'm in the NFL. This is the way I conduct myself. Oh. Now I'm in college. This is the way I conduct myself. And I'm not changing for anybody. I'm not changing.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I think the thing is.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. When you're winning, when you don't win and you give people your job, your butt to kiss, and they're in position to hire you, what do they do? Ocho. They're like, okay, next.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
The Internet believes Andy Reid called out Mahomes today while talking about the team's commitment to the run game. Let's take a listen to what Big Red had to say.
Andy Reid
We're calling the quite a few of the RPOs. So yesterday they were giving us opportunities to throw the football, so we utilized the opportunities there and those things end up being as good as a run for you. We're getting four plus yards and, and you go with it.
Shannon Sharpe
And.
Andy Reid
But the runs are being called. It's just, you know, sometimes they, they get turn into. Into passes in today's world, you know, that's how it goes. So. But we're getting them, we're getting them in. Now we have some hard runs where you just get up, line up and go. Probably could call more the.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I like that. Hey. So all he's saying is obviously you get an understanding who Patrick Mahomes is. He's one like a Peyton Manning. He's one like a Tom Brady. He. He's able to see. See fit based on what he's seen defensively. And he's able to change what comes in.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes. Able to change that kind of latitude.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah. So hearing it now, hearing it from Andy, you know, coming out, saying, I don't think he's throwing him under the bus, but. But it's a clear sign that there might be slight frustration. You know, when I call it, let's just run it.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, if that's what you want. Well, you a call like you said, call a hard run. So we get up there with line and we call it. Ain't no, Ain't no audible out of it. None of that. Because here's the thing. Oo really do I really. So I take the ball out of Patrick Mahomes hand to put the ball in Kareem's hunt hand or put the ball in the rookie hand. Now if you telling me I got Jonathan Taylor, Are you telling me I got Saquon? You telling me I got Derek Henry? Okay. Okay. There's a probability or greater chance that I leave it on.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But I got guys back here, man. I just got guys. So no, I would rather have the ball in Patrick Mahomes hand. And he made some good. He made some reads. But I think the thing is now, Ocho is that yes, they'll have a chance in every game, but they need to upgrade that roster. They don't rush the passage, they don't attack the passer like they once did.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
The running game is really. I mean, it's really. Patrick Mahomes is their running game. I mean, Kareem Hunter gets you tough yards, a tough two fourth and one. You really run that inside handoff where they fake it and.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, can you imagine, can you imagine if Jamal Charles was. Was playing in this era for the Kansas City Chiefs?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, I would have traded a second round pick to get a chan.
Shannon Sharpe
Whoa, that. Oh, that's scary.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Now that, that, that's scary. That's scary. But to have a back like that, that can hit his head off the goal post from anywhere on the field. And yes, didn't have the receivers you have with Patrick Mahomes. Listen, you can't have everything though. No, you have everything that's, that's gonna have to upgrade.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ocho, you, you know, Ocho, even Tom, they upgraded every year. Most of the time it was a different back. Now James White might have been their, their, their, their third down back, but they had a different back and they needed. They. You got to upgrade. Yeah, you got to upgrade. The New York Jets Ocho are benching Justin Fields for backup Tyrod Taylor. The moves comes following the 2714 loss to Patriots last Thursday night. The game in which fields threw for 116 yards on 15 or 26 passing field signed a two year, 40 million dollar deal with the jets last spring. The contract guarantees them 20 million in 25 and another 10 million in 26. Ocho does this bench and suggest that the Justin Field experiment is officially over.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, it does. And, and I, I hate that for young Bull. I'm just gonna be honest. I hate that for him. And not only is the experiment over, it puts the Jet back in. It put the jets back in the same position that they've been in for a very long time. Since Joe Namath is in search of a quarterback number one. They're back in search of quarterback number one. I really, I really was pulling, you know, for Justin Fields and hoping this would be his season to have his own team. Things didn't go well with the Bears. He went to Pittsburgh. We saw flashes. We saw flashes of brilliance. Leading that Pittsburgh Steeler team offensively to a 4, 2 record before he was bench for Russell Wilson that Mike Tomlin had said would be the starter once he gets back healthy. Now Justin Fields, this is your team. You quarterback number one. You have nothing to worry about. You have to look over your shoulder. You can play freely, you know, just minimize your mistakes, protect the ball and try to run that offense as efficient as you possibly can. And to this point, we in week 10, damn near if I'm not mistaken. Week 10.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, yeah. We about to head into week 12.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, well, we in week 12 and just.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, week 13. Yeah. This is week 12. Yeah. Week 12. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
At this point, based on the numbers, what you've seen, we've talked about it all the time, you know, having games where you got 20, 30 yards at the half.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, man, come on, man. 45 yards passing. NFL quarterback.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay, okay. Once I get that. But. OO 45.
Shannon Sharpe
Back to back, Back to back, man. No, and, and let's, and sometimes when I think about it, it's like sometimes I think they sabotaging him, you know, But I know that's not the case. I know. Not the case. Because they, they can only sabotage you so much. You know, I thought it hurt. I, I hurt for Young Bull because he, I, he's really, he really won the opportunity to be quarterback number one. And it just hasn't panned out or worked out.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, the Jess is probably one of.
Shannon Sharpe
The worst situations to go to because you have clearly that you have to be that much better at the quarterback position that everything around you, you got to, you got to be able to elevate everybody else around you. And he's not that kind of quarterback, man.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Aaron Rodgers and Devonte Adams couldn't help him.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's. That's a good one.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So you put that, that green and white on. You already know.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn well listen Tyrod, you know, proven veteran Tyrod gonna get in there and one thing about him.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know, he gonna move by now. Let it go.
Shannon Sharpe
You're gonna move that ball too. He gonna move that ball. I wonder who the jets got this week.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Who? The Ravens.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, hell no.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, in Baltimore, Tyrod. Hey, that's what Tyrod started. Remember Tyrod was the backup to Joe Pleco.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, the Joe. Yeah, yeah, I remember. Yep, sure was.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And he started in Buffalo. He took Buffalo to the playoffs. People forget that.
Shannon Sharpe
That's right. Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes. Simmons said he's tired of sugar coating things and is sick of the Titans not playing complimentary football. Let's take a listen to what Jeffrey Simons had to say. We need to be better.
Jeffrey Simmons
I mean, we can't keep sitting up.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Here saying the same thing, trying to.
Jeffrey Simmons
Sugarcoat it for the media, for no, anybody. And I said in the locker room, I said it on the field. I'm tired of sugar coating and we.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Need to be better.
Jeffrey Simmons
At the end of the day, we need to practice.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
There was a defense when knowing if you give up two touchdowns or you know, or whatever that it's going to.
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Jeffrey Simmons
I mean, at the end of the day, it's about complimenting football. We have to play better team football. We sometime the offense, we playing good, sometime the defense. But how can we play good as a team?
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Jeffrey Simmons
We not Playing good team football right now and showing. And Mike said in the practice Friday, we had freaking four false starts. Friday, we playing at home. We shouldn't have it in the false starts.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Don't care.
Jeffrey Simmons
I'm tired of taking feelings. I'm tired of losing. That's what I'm tired of doing.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, man, he frustrated, boy.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Yeah. He talking about the offensive line. He said how we have that many false starts and we play it at home.
Shannon Sharpe
At home. Yeah. You shouldn't have any because the noise is on your side or the lack of noise is on your side, especially when the offense is out there on the field. It shouldn't. Shouldn't be any issues. I understand what he's. What he's saying in the key. The key word that he kept saying over and over is complimentary. You know, offense play well, defense play well. There has to be some type of balance on both sides. Now, you're not gonna execute on every. Every single drive. Not every single drive, but meet me halfway, Meet me halfway. Keep us off the field for a little bit. Don't go three and out 30 goddamn three times. I'm just throwing that number out there. But. But in general, defense is tired. Give us a chance to rest. Let's put together some drives, some consecutive drives together, you know, give us a chance. They're not even. With the way they're playing, they're not even giving themselves a chance to win games. Now it's a little position to get.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
The number one pick again next this year. I mean, in 26. Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, and my dog. And now my dog hurts.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Gotta suck to get the back to back number one pick.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that's tough.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Well, hell, you know how bad you already had territory. You are in old Colts territory.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but. Oh.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Cause you know y' all did that, right? Ocho who? The Bengals.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Bengals are bad.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Johnna Carter, Big daddy Dan Wilkinson.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, the Bengals was bad, huh? I'm talking about back then.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You do realize I was in the league where y' all was terrible.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Y' all come a long way. Oo.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, we have. Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Coast was terrible, too. Don't. Hey, the Patriots was terrible, too.
Shannon Sharpe
Terrible.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, a lot of terrible.
Shannon Sharpe
They were bad. They were bad. Hey, but. But Tennessee got a long way to go, huh? You know how bad you and. Hey, you. You heard me. You know how bad you get or.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Save the team. Hold on. Oh, I'm trying to think who the last team to have back to back number one overall Picks. So like we said, like the Bengals.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Did with. I think it was Kajana Carter and big daddy Dan Wilkerson. Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
What happened?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
The same team has done it twice.
Shannon Sharpe
Who was that?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Done it twice, Back to back, number ones overall.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, just the Bengals.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, you give me the years, I'm probably gonna get it. Oh, yeah. With Tim Couch and the guy from Penn State.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Cleveland.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Baker Mayfield and Miles Garrett.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What was the defensive lineman? He. Courtney Brown, if I'm not mistaken. I think Courtney went one and. And what you call him with two, didn't he? Yeah, didn't. Didn't LaVar go two to Washington after Courtney? Because they was on the same team. I think just like the Colts had the first two picks and they took Steve Edmond and they took the guy from Texas A M, Quinn Corot. To Washington. Yeah. Wow. Chris Samuel, the offensive lineman. Yeah, Man. Yeah. It's tough, Ocho. And, and, and, and, and that's where you got to have real strong leadership. Because when one side is pulling their weight and the other side ain't pulling their weight.
Shannon Sharpe
Right. Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Frustration start to bubble.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Tennessee, you gotta have some real, real, real, real strong.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Tennessee leadership.
Shannon Sharpe
Tennessee has some chances to win that game. So I understand.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They did. They did. They absolutely did. Yeah, they absolutely did.
Shannon Sharpe
Understand this.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
All right, Ocho. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Doctor Frankie L. Bellamy. Say it with me now. The stars of the stars at night are big and bright the deep in the heart of Texas. How about them Cowboys? Really, Doc? Y'. All. Y' all beat. Y'.
Shannon Sharpe
All.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Y'. All. Y' all beat the Raiders. And you proud about that document. I can't believe you, Doc. I can't believe you. It's about time. Y' all lost by 50 games.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Hey, gonna win now.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. You. Oh, Joe. She said the last four weeks they go with it. They got beat. So she won for four.
Shannon Sharpe
If she had the casino.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
She ain't got no money. They don't got all her money. Hey, did she. She eat the hubby eating with vouchers. She ain't got no money. El pray. Just saw you had the John by John Mayer Rolex on the other night. The new one just rolled out in 2026 around the corner. Do you plan on treating yourself? No. I mean, maybe if I get my five thousand nine hundred dollar Ocho, I mean, I might be able to do a little something.
Shannon Sharpe
Think about. Think about my kids, huh? Think about Christmas, huh? Think About. Hey, think about French fry. Little. Little Face. If she wake up and ain't got no presents in the morning, think about, you know, Baby Kennedy and Cha Cha. You know, now, my older kids, you know, they. They don't want for much. What about my three babies?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What about. What about Shannon, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
What about Shannon, Ash and Jordan got you.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I don't know what I'm gonna do. I don't know which. I mean, I can't get no real turkey. I gotta get turkey from the deli. That what I'm having for Thanksgiving. Yeah, turkey from the deli.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, man. Ah, that's tough. That's tough.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I mean. I mean, you know, I ain't eating no ham. I mean, Spam. Damn. Spam. I mean, your boy's shooting bad. Your boy bad.
Shannon Sharpe
Anyway, I can send somebody down there to cook for you now.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
If you see my 5900. I get it 67 now, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I don't know that. That's a little bit too much interest there, boy.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey. In this economy. Hey, don't do that.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Tell me about it.
Shannon Sharpe
Don't do that.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It's my money that I'm missing in this economy. Yeah. Ocho, I wanted to give you a day to get your tears, but, hey, bta, my Steelers gave you yesterday. Love you both, Uncle Nocho. Yeah, Ocho, they did. Oh, they put some on y'.
Shannon Sharpe
All.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, did I tell. What did I tell you? Right on. I said, I'm tell you what's gonna happen, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Joe Flacco gonna get off to a great start. He gonna have a couple of games where you like. Hey, Joe, doing that thing. And then I said, ocho, he'll turn over. Machine hit Kyle Duggar right between the numbers at the Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that Robert. That Robert. You know, you never see that coming now, Unc. You never see that Robert coming. Obviously, that dig, that dig route was there and where the safety started at before the snap, right before the ball snapped, he went right there. He went right there in that little spot. And to me, it's a blind spot for the quarterback, too, because at pre snap, hell, he was back. He was back deep and started creeping down. He never saw it coming.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Tell the people they call it rob. We used to call it lurk. Yeah. What's his job? To rob anything that's coming across.
Shannon Sharpe
Coming across the middle. Yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Brandon Martinez. Ain't no way Jerry letting GP He a cowboy and fans love him. Jerry paying that bag.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
See, I hope you guys Right.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, common sense would have been paying Michael Parsons too, but all of a sudden, now, when it come to. Come to George picking things.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, he hadn't dug in. He had done dug in on part Michael. Michael had done rubbed him the wrong way. He thought he had a chance. Jerry one of them. One of them good old boys. The handshake means everything. He say. Michael shook his hand and walked out of there. He thought they had a deal. Yeah, and once. Hey, once. He said they didn't have no deal. Jerry said, nah. He even told him Jared's Michael and his agent said, you know what? I'll take the original contract that we agreed upon. Jerry said, no, you'll play on a regular salary or. And that's where we are. Ocho. PWS says thoughts on Paul and Joshua happening in December. Anything. Any prediction on how it will go? Yeah, if it's not handicapped, Anthony Joshua will knock him out.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's. That's dangerous. That's dangerous. You know, how many, how many. How much experience? How much?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I think Andrew Joshua won the gold medal. Didn't he win the gold medal in the. For the super heavyweights in the Olympics?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know Anthony Joshua's history, but I'm just. I'm thinking about ring experience. That. That's pretty much it. And I commend Jake Paul for what he's done. I. I depend. I mean, I commend him for the work he's put in and how serious he's taken the sport, you know, from. From going from a YouTuber and actually taking it seriously and dedicating his life to. To boxing and entertaining, you know, in his own lane and creating a lane for himself in the sport. So I'm. I, hey, you. You can't handicap a fight like this, too. It's not.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He won the gold medal in the 2012 Olympics in London.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And the super heavyweight, the same one Klitschko, the same with Lewis. Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
And this ain't no. This ain't no exhibition this month. This counts, okay? It counts. So listen, I. Hey, boy, listen, sometimes you bite off more than you could chew, but maybe he could shock the world. Maybe he can shock the world. But the chance of shocking the world against an experienced boxer who's been under the bright lights.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Biggest stage.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
This man was the heavyweight champion of the world.
Shannon Sharpe
The world.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Like I said, if. If it's a straight up. If it's a real, real boxing match.
Shannon Sharpe
It is normally, you know, Jake has done exhibitions. This counts. On their record, this counts. On Anthony Joshua's record.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Well, it, it's going one round. No, Anthony Joshua can punch Kenny.
Shannon Sharpe
He what, man?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Who you telling them heavyweights? No, he, they say heavyweight, he, that he, he ushered in what Rick Boom. Ushered in.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Super heavyweight. Yeah, them 250s, 255s. Those guys. Vladimir Klitschko, Lennox Lewis, Riddick, Bo, those, those big ass Tyson Fury. Those big Ali weighed 205.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but like he would, like, he.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Would, like Patterson weighed 200. That's what a heavyweight was. Yeah. Now big George Foreman was a super heavyweight. 235, 240.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Now all these guys in that division.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I, I, I like, I like what he's doing. I like what he's doing. And the only thing, the ring experience that Anthony Joshua has over Jake Paul, I mean, it, it can get dangerous. It could be very dangerous.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So you, I mean, he believe in his skill. I love the fact that he has, he took it serious. He hired, he hired professional people.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He studied the craft. He got people to help him get better at his craft. This is what we wanted to see. Stop fighting guys that was washed up in their particular sport, be it basketball, be it UFC or whatever the case may be.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
If you're serious about that, okay, go fight guys that, this is what they do for a living.
Shannon Sharpe
Can I tell you something?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
There is no amount of training, there is no amount of training Jake Paul can do that can allow him to compete against elite fighters.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I've been boxing for a living since they was four or five years old. There's nothing you can do to make up that time. It's impossible. And can you imagine if they go into that fight December 19th in Miami and Anthony Joshua decides to add overwhelming pressure and become a pressure fighter and just come forward all fight long like you're not, you're not used to that. I don't care, I don't care how much sparring you do.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And he ain't used to fighting somebody that size. Ocho Joshua is huge.
Shannon Sharpe
I was just getting ready to say that. I was just getting ready to say that, you know, so listen, I wish, I wish Jake Paul all the luck, you know, in that fight against, against, against Young Bull.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Man.
Shannon Sharpe
Six.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He's six. Six?
Shannon Sharpe
I thought he was six. Fold.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Six. Six. They got him listed at six. Six.
Shannon Sharpe
Jesus Christ. Yeah, it's gonna be nice. It's gonna be nice. It's gonna be nice. It's gonna be a good one. It's gonna be One, everybody's gonna be tuned in because you want to see it, you want to see it. You know, can Jake Paul do what most people consider the impossible, Getting in the ring, you know, with, with limited experience and fighting against an elite fighter who was really, experience, shoot, make it, make it into the fight.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He's 6, 6, 245 pounds.
Shannon Sharpe
Jesus.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Really proud of that. The heavyweight, I mean, Big George was really the only what, what they call now. So even though it's the heavyweight division, a super heavyweight, guys that weighed 240, you go look at, you look at Lennox Lewis, you look at Vladimir Klitschko, you look at Vitali Klitschko, you look at Fury, you look at those guys, huge six, five, six, six.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you know what could be scary too?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What?
Shannon Sharpe
That even with all the training.
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Shannon Sharpe
He feel that power one time and.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He happened, that's like getting kicked in the face while mule.
Shannon Sharpe
When you, when you feel that power, even if you, even if you parry or even if you block and you feel that power hitting them gloves, boy.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That'S, that's why the heavyweights, that's why he got a puncher's chance. Because that division, they turn the lights out with one punch, one shot. Now, yeah, you got some guys that lord, that can punch like that. But in the heavyweight, hey, I guess like you said, you said. Anybody, anything can happen in a fight. Yeah, but it's just hard. And I know, I know he's a little older, he's 36. That's not over the hill. None of these guys fighting now well into their 40s, but I, I just think if he, if, if no holds barred, this is an actual, a sanctioned WB sanctioned fight.
Shannon Sharpe
It is.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It's just hard for me to see Jake Paul beating him. Not saying that he can't. It's just hard for me to see that he can't, that he will beat it. Montavious heard y' all Cowboys haters try y' all best to convince pickers to leave. J.J. see what he's doing? Just like we, like we do what JJ do what it takes to keep the pick. Nah, I'm just saying he's gonna want to get paid just like you. You go on your job and you do your job at a high level, you want to get paid. Now if they don't pay you and there's somebody else that has the same type of job, that you can go over there and do it and they're going to pay you, you're not gonna say, well, man, hey, I Just love it here. No. You're a cowboy lover, and you want him to stay. Yeah, I. I don't lose any sleep either way. I want the man to get compensated for his work. If Dallas compensates him, so be it, but he's earned the right to be. He's earned the right to be compensated accordingly. Brian Carter. I can see Picking. Signing with the Bills. Allen and Pickins. I can see that, too.
Shannon Sharpe
Now we talking.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I told you that.
Shannon Sharpe
Now. Now we talking. You put goddamn George Pickens over there with Josh Allen, man. Man, listen, all right? I don't want to piss off the Cowboys fans. I'm gonna let Pick finish the season off.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Peacemakers. If Evan Moses. 122 straight hurdle races, win the. The greatest feat in sports. Yeah. 100 finals. 122 straight finals. I'm trying to think, who beat him? Andre Phillips. Was it Andre Phillips to beat him? I don't think it was Kevin Young. Kevin Young had the world record at 46. 76. I think it was Andre Phillips that beat him who beat Edward Moses, Because I think he won two. He won two gold medals in a bronze. I'm sorry. Hey, you see. You see how she covered her mouth, Ocho?
Shannon Sharpe
She said.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I said, I think it was Andre Phillips that beat him. I said, ash, look it up. It was Andre. Philip. I was like, well, damn, Ash, that mean the chat couldn't hear you. You normally blurt out the answer.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Man, old Morehouse, if I'm not mistaken. 84. I think he won 76 and 84 and then got the. And got the bronze in 88 because 80. We boycotted 80 because it was in. In Moscow because they invaded Afghanistan.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Did he. Did he win in 76 in Montreal, or was it 80? 80, 84, 88. No, no, no, no, Edwin. Because he won two gold medals and. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Jordan. I'm sorry. I got. It's an amazing streak. I don't know if we'll see. Brett Favre street broken. Damn near 300 starts in football. Yeah, I don't know if we see that broken. Ooh, I don't know if we'll see that broken. Not in football. I don't know if we're gonna see. A.C. green. I think A.C. green got over 1100 starts in basketball. Now, I understand. 82 games, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
No injuries. A.C. green.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Nah. You know, A.C. was a virgin, so, you know, he. He was. You know, he was sturdy.
Shannon Sharpe
He was pure.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, pure.
Shannon Sharpe
Is that. Did they just say that, you know, or was he really?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He said it. I mean that's, that, that's, that's what the thing. Now I would think had someone, you know, taken that from him, they would have reported that. They would have said it. So.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I have no reason to believe that anything otherwise. Yeah, I mean that is an amazing streak. I mean that thing lasted 122 races. Finals. Carl Lewis. I think Carl Lewis won 65 consecutive long jump finals. I think the Cuban Greco Roman wrestler winning five gold medals.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, yeah, I know, but I know, I know who that is. I know about him.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh man. I mean you, I mean you really have to like. I mean you would really, really have to, to like sit down and really think about it and like. Okay, what, what are we comparing? What do we, what do we actually. Because there's some pretty amazing feats.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But that is pretty impressive. 97 sup fellas. Start cut. Trade jason. Kid steve nash. Tony parker. The best all around point guard of this bunch is Jason Kidd. He could assist, he could rebound, he could defend at an elite level.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So I'll start kid. Trey parker. I'll cut nash.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Daniel Cummings. Ocho, bring back the sombrero.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I got September, Spanish Heritage Month. I got it.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Remedy 9, 944. Where's the love for big Quinn Williams and big Kenny Clark? Tell Saquon they're looking at for a new girlfriend. Looking for a new girlfriend next weekend. Oh, the big man played well. I mean. Oh, did play well tonight. They got up in the court. Look, I'm not saying the Cowboys didn't play well, but it's hard to judge it when you're playing the Raiders. Yeah, because the Raiders are so inept on that side of the football. So I, if they go, if they, if they win against the Eagles and they play, we'll give them the credit. I don't have no problem giving the Cowboys credit.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But we saw, we saw how they look when they played the cards. That didn't go too well. Right. So it's really hard to grade them playing the Raiders. So I think, look, they got a five week stretch here that we'll find out a lot more about. The Dallas Cowboys.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Dwayne Jackson. Ocho, are you going to the Florida Classic this weekend? Go Rattlers.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, matter of fact, you know what? I'mma call Coach Cozy. I'm going to call Coach Cozy. I'm going to the game. If I can't, if I can't go field side, then I'll go with the band. I'll call. I'll call Shelby Chipman. I'll sit with the band. But we. What we got Saturday? We got. We got. We got the show Saturday night, right? Yeah, I should be. I should. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad you mentioned that because we finna. We finna. Whoop the you know what. The you know what out of Bethune Cookman.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, y'. All. Oh, okay. Where's the game? Where's the game?
Shannon Sharpe
Right there in Orlando, the Classic.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Orlando. Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, I think it might be at the Jaguar Stadium.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Really?
Shannon Sharpe
I think so. I'm not.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Wait, no, the Jaguar State is in Jacksonville.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm tripping. What stadium would it. I forgot the stadium in Orlando.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I forgot to be. Don't start me to lie. Yeah, they got a stadium in law. Or I guess where they play the Pro bowl at or something. Well, they only play the Pro bowl anymore, so.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I can't think of the stadium, but yeah. You know what? Now that you said it, you know, I was gonna. Yeah, I'm going. I'm going to the Classic, man. So if you go to the Classic, if you see the band, I'll probably be sitting right there with the band. If I'm. If I'm not with the band, I'll be on the field.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ocho. Merry Christmas. Oh, here's 6700 I owe you. Yeah, tell me about it. This man gonna give me my money for. For a criminal gift.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's a good gift, huh? That's a good gift. Think about it. If I get. If I. If I give you money too early, how am I getting my daughter the horse for Christmas?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What if I wanted a horse?
Shannon Sharpe
You don't know how to ride.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I do.
Shannon Sharpe
Your hips bad.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, I riding the horse. He ain't on my back. I ain't got to carry him.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm saying, you. How you gonna get your legs over the horse if you got bad hips?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Easy.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, you don't ride no horse. I've never seen you on the horse.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Now, you.
Shannon Sharpe
You've seen me on horses multiple times. I know. I know how to ride a horse.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know, I grew up in the country. I was riding the horse. I rode a horse before you was born.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, let's do this. How about we add that to the list of things we can do, you know, as far as content, creating, fishing, hunting, riding horses. You know, bowling, ping pong shooting, pool. I mean, hang gliding, deep sea diving. I mean, it's spear fishing.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, Lord have mercy.
Shannon Sharpe
It's so much stuff. So much.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You see that guy? You see that guy held his breath for 29 minutes underwater.
Shannon Sharpe
That wasn't real. They edited that. That's impossible. The human body can. It's. It's impossible. It's impossible. Even if you train for that, it's impossible. The Nomads. The Nomads, I forgot exactly where they are. That. That free dive and dive to get stuff. They can't even. 29. You know how long 29 minutes is?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, I do know how long 29 minutes is. 11 minutes is to work without. I guess he breathed pure oxygen. I don't know.
Shannon Sharpe
You can train for that, you know.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
As far as they call oxygen assisted. So it's not the. It's not like the. You know, you take that one last deep breath, and then you go under. That means you got to slow your heart rate down to probably less than 10 beats a minute.
Shannon Sharpe
Slow as hell.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, because that's how. That's how, you know, alligators, crocodiles, things like that, they slowly. They slowly. Heart rate down just like, You know me, Ocho. You know, when I was at my prime, I was in the mid-40s. 40.
Shannon Sharpe
What?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
40 beats a minute.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I thought you were talking about being underwater.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Man, I ain't been. I ain't even been in a bathtub.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
In 30 years.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you only take showers?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I only take showers.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you. Oh, you fancy. Oh, you. You fancy. Okay.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Bad. Hey, bet I get that bath tub that. That ring running T. Probably look like.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Please.
Shannon Sharpe
Hell, no.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Saw your Carson. Ocho always say if he on the bench, they don't contribute. I know Joe Burr is great, but doesn't matter how good you are if you can't play. Stop being biased, Ocho. He's injured more than he plays. He lied, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you're right.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And he ain't gonna be that. Guess what, Ocho? He ain't gonna play this season either. Because once y' all lose. Once y'. All. Once y' all lose Sun Sunday, and y' all will. Oh, y' all on the Bible. Oh, no. Y' all had your bye week, and y' all will lose.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Who we play this Sunday? Oh, we play the Patriots.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, we play the Patriots. We play the Patriots.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You didn't want to. You didn't want to tell me that. You know y' all about to catch this.
Shannon Sharpe
L. Hey, we gonna. We gonna see.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, Henderson. Henderson about to run for a buck fifty. Drake may gonna throw for 250.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, I forgot about Henderson, man. And we struggle, stopping and running. Buddy fast.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You sure do. And Buddy got speed to burn.
Shannon Sharpe
Fast, boy. Damn, man. And I got. I gotta work the Ravens. I gotta work. I gotta work the Thanksgiving game.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Who play Thanksgiving? The Ravens.
Shannon Sharpe
Ravens? Bengals.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ah, that's another L for y'. All.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm. I'mma be at em.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You gonna lose your appetite?
Shannon Sharpe
No, I'm not gonna lose my appetite. I'm doing my EA stuff.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Kobe J CD and Pickens probably got caught sneaking to the casino last night. Quinny Williams looked good. Yeah, Quinn, he looked really good. He said he wanted to win. They got him surrounded by guys that Jerry, you know, Jerry's done it with Diggy Zua and Jadavian Clowney. And I don't think I didn't see Fowler tonight. Williams can rush the pass of 53. Got a sacks out. I didn't. I didn't. Didn't catch his name. But they played well. They played well. Give him credit. They played well, but I don't really know how to properly. Properly evaluate them considering who they went up against. Kamara O01234 As a Falcon fans, I want to get Mike McCarthy as a head coach to develop Michael Penix. And with eight straight losing seasons, I think Mike will get us to the playoffs. Why do people resist Mike McCarthy? Because he had success in Green Bay and Dallas. He did. He won. I mean, Didn't win much. I mean, he was 12, what, 12 and five seasons. Three of those in Dallas. But I think they won one playoff game. Didn't they beat the Patriots? I think they beat. They was the one that Tom Brady's last game in the playoffs they ended up beating 30 to nothing. 30 to 3, something like that. Will Victor chase Hawk to a moment cost him 500k. Should have gave all Ocho. Instead Ocho could have cut UNC to 6700. Love the show. Yeah, we had a MO. Had a lapse. Bad judgment. And he seemed like a guy that loved. He bought his paper. Gonna lose 500 more in no bull job like that. I promise you that. Samuel Grand Ocho let them know they got to get on that McDonald's diet.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Hey, the injuries. The injuries continue to pile up. They continue to pile up year, year after year. Same stuff. Soft tissue injury here, soft tissue injury there. You know, a tear here, a tear here, a break here, a break there. And for some reason, you know, I'm. I'm just saying, you know, everybody laugh at me and they, you know, is I. I'm on the side. I'm telling on something. All 32 teams. I'm asking you again. Bring me in as your nutritionist. You got to have a healthy balance of both. Eating healthy all the time is why people's bodies are breaking down.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's why.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I'm telling you.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I've seen that film from 96. They robbed that pick from the defense. How mad you were after the game. And I seen you was a blocking. I was blocking Shakur. Yeah. I'm still mad about that. Terrence G. Said, Come on, guys. Bears haven't been in first place since 2018. Can we get a little more attention? Yes. I'm prepared to take the heat if we lose. Now, we gave y' all some love yesterday. We've been talking about Caleb Williams.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ocho picked them to be good at the beginning of the season. So we. I mean, we were talking about them before anybody else was talking about them. No. And we said, don't look now, but they're in first place. No, but the Bears look good. They look good. Beard gang 268. Somehow, Ocho predicted that both the Panthers and the Bears would improve, but couldn't see the Bengals being a dumpster foul.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
How.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that's not necessary. That's not necessary. When it comes to the Bengals, obviously, I'm met with my heart. I wasn't. Yeah, I wasn't really using logic. But when it came to the Bears and the Panthers, I understood with the. The offseason acquisitions, I understood what they did in the draft. I understood what the Bears did. Going to get a coach that was. That was very, very good. That was very creative. And I understood Caleb Williams. Not only mindset, but his skill set. I understood what he was able to do and the relationship. You know, when you put someone as creative as. As Ben Johnson, you put him with a. A great skill set. Like goddamn Caleb Williams. I understood what you was gonna get right young. The way he ended the season last year, I already knew it was up for them. I already knew there's only one way to go, and that was up. And how they doing the season? Okay.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Good.
Shannon Sharpe
All right.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, bro. Uncle no show. Could y' all shout out my little bro lele for his 17th birthday? He rushed for five touchdowns to lead his team to the third round. Lele, happy 17th birthday. Big time game. Congratulations on the team win and good luck moving forward in the playoffs. Dizzle from mtp. He a Bronco. He knows how to ride a horse.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. All right, here we go.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Elijah McIver. What's up, Uncle Nocho Love from Hinesville, Georgia. That's what I'm talking about. That's for Stewart. 24th Infantry Division. Does UG have a deal with Marvel Looney Tunes get all these T shirts? No, I do not Marvel Looney Tunes A Make it happen. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us as the Dallas Cowboys run their record to 4, 5 and 1. The Raiders dropped to 2 and 8 thanks to a 3316 victory over the Raiders. Dak Prescott very impressive. 25 of 33, 268, 4 touchdowns and the defense sacked Geno Smith four times as they went in. Quinny Williams in his debut had a sack and a half at a tackle for loss. He played extremely, extremely well. George Pickens nine catches, a buck 44 and a touchdown. CD Lamb had five for 66 and a touchdown. I am your favorite uncle Shannon Sharp and that is my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Bingo's Ring of Fame honoree. A former Pro Bowler and an All Pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you for your support. Thanks to you all of this is possible and thanks to you we'll continue to grow. Thank you again. Thanks for your support and your continued support. Head over to laportiercognac.com if you're trying to get shave by Laportier and you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. It is the best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Try it, compare it against others and we assure we're sure you'll see that we have the smoothest, best tasting cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and be safe. Head over and check out my media company page on all of its platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled out, the link is pinned in the chat again. The Dallas Cowboys 33, the Las Vegas Raiders 16. Dallas now four, five and one. Raiders fall to two at eight. I'm unk, he's ocho. We'll see you with the third member of the big three on Wednesday. ISO Joe I'm unk, he's O Joe, we're out. Peace. Sam.
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Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guest/Co-Host: Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Theme: Breaking Down NFL Drama: Player Discipline, Injuries & Franchise Decisions
In this lively episode of Nightcap Hour 2, Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson dig deep into the hot topics dominating the NFL headlines. They tackle issues of player discipline, dissect season-ending injuries affecting key players, discuss controversial quarterback decisions, and riff on the emotional state of franchises and fans. True to form, they bring candid insight, personal stories, humor, and the unfiltered honesty only two football legends can deliver.
(02:35 - 04:44)
Chad opens with the news of Giants linebacker Abdul Carter being benched for missing a walkthrough due to "sleeping" at the facility, allegedly a repeated issue (02:35).
Both hosts compare the discipline culture now versus their playing days.
"You get in there early enough, get that recovery, get you some need. Get you some breakfast. So you don't do recovery when, you know you got meetings coming up real soon." (03:10)
"This is not winning behavior. Look at the teams that win. And. And. And we don't. We don't hear about stuff like this." (04:14)
Fines & Accountability:
"You late. Late cost you $2,500. Or you could pay $1,200 in front of the team and then tell them why you had to pay $1,200. And it's embarrassing..." (05:35)
(11:35 - 16:16)
Breaking News: Michael Penix Jr suffered a partially torn ACL, his third ACL and fifth season-ending injury in just eight college and NFL seasons (11:37).
Shannon is empathetic but blunt:
"That totally sucks to be. For him to have a season in an injury and be behind eight ball... There's no need for a second opinion. Go in there, get the work..." (13:01)
Comparisons & Hope:
Falcons in Quarterback Purgatory:
"You pay cousins...coming off the injury that he had and still sign a quarterback...his career would have been ended like four times before coming to the NFL." (14:52) "You have to think about it, huh? Where they gonna get one from?" (20:14)
"If you take a tight end that high, you gotta use them. But when they do use your Kyle, you're gonna have to catch the ball now." (21:16)
"Because I...Look, they're getting restless. They're getting restless in Atlanta." (23:30)
"It's a clear sign that there might be slight frustration...when I call it, let's just run it." (31:02)
"So I take the ball out of Patrick Mahomes’ hand to put the ball in Kareem’s Hunt hand or put the ball in the rookie hand? ...No, I would rather have the ball in Patrick Mahomes' hand." (31:14)
"I really, I really was pulling, you know, for Justin Fields and hoping this would be his season to have his own team...it just hasn't panned out or worked out." (35:05)
"I'm tired of sugar coating and we need to be better. At the end of the day, we need to practice..." — Jeffrey Simmons (37:41)
"There has to be some type of balance on both sides...Meet me halfway, Keep us off the field for a little bit." (38:40)
"The rules don't apply to him, and the NFL has let this behavior go on. But let a player don't want to do the media...They gonna dock me money." (25:08)
"You want him to stay...but he's earned the right to be compensated accordingly." — Chad on George Pickens’ future (54:05)
"There is no amount of training Jake Paul can do that can allow him to compete against elite fighters." — Shannon Sharpe (51:11)
On Player Discipline:
"This is not winning behavior...Look at the teams that win. And we don't hear about stuff like this."
— Chad Johnson (04:44)
On Michael Penix Jr’s injury track:
"For him to have a season in an injury and be behind eight ball...there's no need for a second opinion."
— Shannon Sharpe (13:01)
On Fields’ Jets Tenure:
"I hate that for young Bull. I'm just gonna be honest. I hate that for him."
— Shannon Sharpe (33:50)
On Mahomes and RPO Dilemma:
"It's a clear sign that there might be slight frustration...when I call it, let's just run it."
— Shannon Sharpe (31:02)
On Leadership During Tough Seasons:
"That's where you got to have real strong leadership. Because when one side is pulling their weight and the other side ain't...Frustration start to bubble."
— Chad Johnson (42:46)
On Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua:
"Sometimes you bite off more than you could chew, but maybe he could shock the world...But the chance of shocking the world against an experienced boxer who's been under the bright lights..."
— Shannon Sharpe (49:22)
The episode is conversational, raw, and honest, peppered with playful roasting and shared nostalgia, while never shying from direct criticism or the complex realities of professional football. Shannon and Chad’s rapport is strong, keeping analysis sharp but always entertaining.
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