Nightcap - Hour 2: Alexander denies media, Russ wants to run it back, Baker upset with himself

Summary

Club Shay Shay Podcast Episode Summary

Title: Nightcap - Hour 2: Alexander Denies Media, Russ Wants to Run It Back, Baker Upset with Himself
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts, The Volume, and Shay Shay Media
Release Date: January 14, 2025

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Shannon Sharpe, NFL legend and host of the Club Shay Shay podcast, delves deep into the tumultuous world of football in this episode titled "Nightcap - Hour 2: Alexander Denies Media, Russ Wants to Run It Back, Baker Upset with Himself." Joined by former NFL star Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, the conversation navigates through recent controversies, team dynamics, player performances, and personal reflections on past games and career decisions.

1. Jerry Alexander Denies Media Engagement

[04:18] Discover Representative: "Ocho, Baker says dumb stuff from the laws will wear on. Will wear on me for a while. How long did it take you to get over the playoff loss, Ocho?"

In this segment, Chad Ochocinco addresses Jerry Alexander's recent decision to distance himself from the media amid ongoing team uncertainties. The discussion highlights Alexander's reluctance to engage with press questions, reflecting a broader trend of players withholding information to manage team narratives.

2. Russell "Russ" Wilson's Future with the Steelers

[08:06] Discover Representative: "Russell Wilson plans on re-signing with the Steelers. Justin Fields was 4 and 2. Russ was 6 and 6. Is it time for the Pittsburgh to go all in with Justin Fields?"

The conversation shifts to the Pittsburgh Steelers' quarterback situation, weighing the potential of continuing with Russell Wilson versus committing to Justin Fields. Chad Ochocinco expresses his perspective on the Steelers' recent performances and the strategic decisions facing the team's management.

[09:01] Chad Ochocinco: "You know what? That's a great question. That's a great question. Now, what people would say is, well, obviously you lost the last five. Why would you go back to Russell Wilson?"

Chad emphasizes the importance of evaluating a quarterback's impact on team performance, suggesting that simply reverting to a former player without addressing underlying issues may not yield the desired improvements.

3. Baker Mayfield's Internal Struggles

[12:34] Chad Ochocinco: "Do you think the Steelers fan base would like that, though?"

Baker Mayfield's apparent frustration with his own performance and decision-making comes under scrutiny. The discussion delves into the psychological pressures athletes face and how self-criticism can impact their game and team morale.

[22:23] Discover Representative: "Hey, listen. One of the greatest [DBs] of all time."

Chad recounts a pivotal playoff game against the Jets, reflecting on his own performance and the broader team dynamics. This introspection serves as a case study on how individual and collective performances can influence the outcome of high-stakes games.

4. Team Management and Potential Trades

[05:11] Discover Representative: "Ain't no such thing as top five when you ain't got no pass rush."

The discussion turns to team strategies, specifically the importance of a strong pass rush in establishing a top-tier defense. Chad critiques the current roster decisions and expresses a desire to see more proactive management in acquiring top defensive talents.

[07:00] Chad Ochocinco: "It's not about when's the last time we did something. We're trying to change the culture in Cincinnati."

Chad highlights the Steelers' organizational culture and the challenges they face in making impactful trades. He stresses the need for adaptability and forward-thinking in team management to stay competitive.

5. Personal Anecdotes and Life Lessons

[25:34] Chad Ochocinco: "Right?"

Throughout the episode, Chad shares personal stories from his career, including memorable games and key moments of triumph and disappointment. These anecdotes serve to illustrate the resilience required in professional sports and the importance of learning from both successes and failures.

[34:16] Chad Ochocinco: "That's different."

Chad discusses the transition from professional sports to life after, touching upon financial management and the challenges athletes face when their sports careers conclude. His insights offer valuable lessons on the importance of financial literacy and planning for the future.

6. Fan Interactions and Community Engagement

[55:27] Chad Ochocinco: "Right."

The episode also features interactions with fans, where Chad acknowledges their support and shares heartfelt messages. This segment underscores the symbiotic relationship between athletes and their fanbase, highlighting how community support can influence a player's career and personal life.

7. Closing Thoughts and Future Directions

[63:28] Discover Representative: "But things aren't where they should be between us."

As the episode wraps up, Chad and Shannon reflect on the ongoing struggles and aspirations within the team. They discuss the potential for future collaborations, new show segments, and the continuous evolution of the podcast to better serve their audience.

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Notable Quotes:

• Chad Ochocinco [09:15]: "Mike Tomlin. This is a very difficult decision. As someone on the outside looking in to me, I would like to continue with Russell Wilson and see what we can do going into next year."

• Discover Representative [12:20]: "It is."

• Chad Ochocinco [22:33]: "One of the greatest DBs of all time and one of the greatest seasons of any DB that 2009 season."

• Chad Ochocinco [34:19]: "Yeah."

• Discover Representative [45:10]: "Ocho, you like having 50, 11 jobs. I'm trying to scale back."

These quotes encapsulate the essence of the discussions, emphasizing the complexities of team management, personal accountability, and the relentless pursuit of excellence in professional sports.

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Conclusion

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco offer a candid look into the challenges and intricacies of professional football. From dissecting playoff performances and quarterback decisions to sharing personal struggles and lessons learned, the conversation provides listeners with a multifaceted perspective on the sport and the individuals who dedicate their lives to it. The episode serves as both an entertaining and enlightening discourse for fans keen on understanding the deeper layers of the NFL landscape.

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Ocho the Packers. Jerry Alexander was asked to speak with the media at the locker room clean out. He declined, saying he doesn't know if he'll be here next year. He said he had not. He had nothing good to say so that he wouldn't talk. Well, yeah, I think it's over.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, listen, I think.

[Discover Representative]

You think it's over, too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. If he's not gonna be there. You know what? There's a beautiful place. There's a beautiful place down in the Midwest called Cincinnati. You know, we gonna have a little pocket change for you. Zaire, we're gonna have some pocket change for you. Come on over there, play a little man to man, huh? I know you're gonna. I know you're gonna see this. I know you're gonna come down there because Cincinnati.

[Discover Representative]

No, you don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What?

[Discover Representative]

No, he don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Why wouldn't he?

[Discover Representative]

Why would he?

[Chad Ochocinco]

What do you mean?

[Discover Representative]

You ain't got no pass rush. Y'all about to lose. Interesting.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, we. Zaire. Alexander is the top five. Man to man. Man to man.

[Discover Representative]

Ain't no such thing as top five when you ain't got no pass rush. You know how that work. That go hand in hand. Hey, that's just like Saying you're a top five receipt. There's a reason why two. Hey. With a Tyreek talking about he tried to get up out of there, that they look different. The thing look different where you ain't got a quarterback that can get you that rock. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And listen, let me. Let me. Let me, let me, let me. Let me. Let me recruit, okay? Let me recruit.

[Discover Representative]

Okay. Go ahead.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Alexander. I know you gonna see this. Come on down to Cincinnati, okay? I'm not asking you. I'm telling you. Now, if you go somewhere else that had nothing to do with Cincinnati after I told you we welcome you with open arms, I'm gonna beat you up.

[Discover Representative]

Hey, you know his former teammate is the quarterback in Baltimore.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They got Nate Wiggins and they have Marlon Humphrey.

[Discover Representative]

Huh? Play the slot. They can kick Jair outside.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Zaire. Alexander, come to Cincinnati. Don't listen to what I'm talking about. Don't listen to what I'm talking about. Come on down.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh?

[Discover Representative]

He going to the highest bidder, Ojo.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, we would be the highest.

[Discover Representative]

Hold on. I think they still own his, right? So they can trade him. They're gonna go get the best deal.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, okay, okay. Okay.

[Discover Representative]

Well, outside of the division. Outside of the division. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try to keep him out of the nfc, but if somebody. NFC offered me the best package. Well, he going to the nfc.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, they don't want him in nfc. Guess what? A perfect place for him to go is Cincinnati.

[Discover Representative]

Ocho, when last time y'all traded for somebody?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, we'll trade for that. Because what's the. What's the one.

[Discover Representative]

When was the last time? When was the last time?

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's not about when's the last time we did something. We're trying to change the culture in Cincinnati.

[Discover Representative]

Is that what y'all made? Is that what y'all made? Is that. Is that what y'all made? Chase play on this contract? Cause y'all were trying to change something.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Actually, wait a minute. Now, you know they don't pay nobody with two years left on their contract unless you're a quarterback.

[Discover Representative]

Now, you told me you didn't care if he had 50 years left.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's if I was the owner.

[Discover Representative]

But. Okay, so with that being said, when was the last. See, they got that same owner. Paul Brown was his dad, Mike Brown. Now, when was the last time they made a trade for somebody?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, I think the decision making comes down to KD and Troy Blackburn. They're doing a phenomenal job. They've done a phenomenal job in changing.

[Discover Representative]

That's his daughter. When was the last time you still ain't answering the chat? Want to know?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know. I don't have it written in front of me right off the top of my head. But we're trying to improve our defense. Why not go and get one of the best corners in the NFL who feels he will no longer be in Green Bay?

[Discover Representative]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

No, man, Come on, come on.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, nah. He coming to Cincinnati. Coming to Cincinnati.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

I already put the beard out there. I know he gonna see this. Zaire. Holla at your boy. My number's still the same, Ocho.

[Discover Representative]

Russell Wilson plans on re signing with the Steelers. Justin Fields was 4 and 2. Russ was 6 and 6. Is it time for the Pittsburgh to go all in with Justin Fields? Pitt is expected to work on signing Fields before free agency. So what should the Steelers do? The Steelers lost their last five games for regular season and the playoffs, so that's five consecutive games in which they lost. What should the Steelers do?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what? That's a great question. That's a great question. Now, what people would say is, well, obviously you lost the last five. Why would you go back to Russell Wilson? Let's start with Justin Fields and have a clean slate and have him take over from that point.

[Discover Representative]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Mike Tomlin. This is a very difficult decision. As someone on the outside looking in to me, I would like to continue with Russell Wilson and see what we can do going into next year. Right. I need them to change the offense a little bit.

[Discover Representative]

What would you like to see them change about it? Push the ball down the field more.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Thank you.

[Discover Representative]

Be more creative.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Use you be more creative. Use your offensive weapons. Everything seems so predictable.

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No, you mean offensive weapon.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Offensive weapons. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, they got. They got to get somebody else over there, man. They got to get somebody else over there. They got. They got to. They got to. One. One more weapon to go and pick, man. Just, just, just something, you know, something.

[Discover Representative]

But the thing is, look, if you make a commitment to field, you just got to go with it, Right? I don't think he's really interested in signing a contract and sitting on the bench.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You can't flip flop back and forth, huh?

[Discover Representative]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

What would you do if you was Mike Thomas.

[Discover Representative]

Asked to get traded. Ocho, sometimes after 17, 18 years, it's time for a new voice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You think so?

[Discover Representative]

Because the problem is, is the Steelers are just good enough to be a playoff contending team, but not good enough to go the distance. And so now you're kind of in. No, man, you're in purgatory. You can't go to heaven. You're not in hell, but you're not advancing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn, that's a good one, huh? I don't like it, though. Do you think. Do you think the Steelers fan base would like that, though?

[Discover Representative]

No, because the Steelers, look, if you go back and look at. Look at them, for the longest time, they had Coach Null. Coach Null won four championships in six years. And then he was mediocre all the 80s, right? They went to the AFC championship game, Dan Marino's second year, the Dolphins beat him. Then after that, they were just mediocre. I think they only made the playoffs, like in the last 12 years, like, what, four times. Coach Cowell comes in in 92, he goes to the Super bowl, and in 95, they lose to the Steelers, and they don't go to the Super bowl until 2005. They win. Mike Thomley comes in. He goes early, wins, Goes back again in, what, 2011 and hadn't even been close since. So the Steelers are okay with that. Think about it. They've had three coaches since 1969. They fired none of them. Chuck? No, Retired. Coach Cowell retired. Retired.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's hard, though, Unc, man. It's hard. Getting, Getting. Getting. Getting to that super bowl, man. Getting to that chip is hard, man.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

The Patriots sport a lot of people. The Chiefs are sporting a lot of people because they have quarterbacks that make it look easy. They have quarterbacks that make it look easy, man. It's not as. It's the cool.

[Discover Representative]

They don't. The Steelers. Look, the Steelers, at some point in time, you see the Rams. The Rams, like, we go for it. They went all in and they cashed out, right? That's not what the Steelers do. That's not what a lot of teams do. But you see Detroit, they make that big move. Hey, they did a great job of drafting and, you know, hey, they don't have. They don't have a problem getting free agents. No, you got to do that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's crazy. I'm just. And I'm picturing that, too. Right now. I'm just picturing Mike Tomlin in a different. In different attire on a different team, and it just Wouldn't seem right.

[Discover Representative]

Andy Reid was with the Eagles for all those years, and they said, bro, we make the playoffs, but we not really going nowhere.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

And he goes to Kansas City and boom. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Discover Representative]

Gotta change something, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

T.J. watt doesn't want to go play anywhere else. Let's take a listen to what TJ had to say.

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I want to be a Pittsburgh so that you guys know that I don't want to leave this place, especially in this. I want to be part of the solution. I've put so much into it here. I've seen so many guys. I mean, I want to help Cam Hayward get to where we need to get. I want to be a part of the solution. I don't want to leave this place. I love the people here. And that goes beyond just the coaches. It's the fan base. It's the people, the community. And we owe it to them to get it right. And I want to be part of the solution. Not leave here, go somewhere else. It's not my intention.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm not even sure who even asked him the question like that. Where he even has to say that. You know, he's a. I know a.

[Discover Representative]

Guy who thought that, too. Ocho. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh. He's the centerpiece on that defense.

[Discover Representative]

Ask his big brother. His big brother didn't want to go nowhere either. Tell the people at home where he finished his last two years. Ocho. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You right. You right about that.

[Discover Representative]

When you great. And you don't have a chance. Because all he wants is a chance to really have an opportunity.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Discover Representative]

To play for a Super Bowl. That's what his big brother wanted.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Famous Miles. I just can't picture them. I can't picture them in. That's crazy.

[Discover Representative]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. I just. Oh. We talk about one of the premier pass rushes in the NFL not being a Pittsburgh Steeler. We're used to seeing number 90 in a Pittsburgh stealing uniform and see. Go somewhere else outside of Pittsburgh.

[Discover Representative]

I remember Reggie was a Philadelphia Eagle.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Too, until he went to Green Bay.

[Discover Representative]

He went. Until he went to Green Bay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[Discover Representative]

I mean, hey, it's not like it used to be our favorite players. Joe, Mean Joe. Pittsburgh Steelers, Buckers.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Discover Representative]

Ray Luke. I mean, yes, you want to see your historically great players have one helmet, but I also want an opportunity to play for the super bowl because that's why I want to see. I want to be on that big stage. Right. Steelers not close though, Joe. They're not. Let's not kid ourselves. They're not close. Think about what's in that division. Oh, yeah, they got to deal with Lamar Jackson for another decade. They got Joe Burrow for another decade. They're not close. They're not. Yeah. So they got Mahomes for another decade.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Discover Representative]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Now, now that come back to what I told you about one players to be stop being optimistic and stop being politically correct and just tell the truth on how they really feel, you know, so maybe, maybe he's saying all the right things publicly, which is what you have to do. And behind the scenes, you know, you let your agent do the dirty work.

[Discover Representative]

Yeah. Yeah. You say all the right thing publicly.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

Hey, they need offensively, they need a play, another playmaker. Get a little light, get some more line help corners. They need some stuff. Yeah, they do. We all have experience paying extra fees. Like the one time I had a layover in Salt Lake City, they canceled my flight and I had to buy another plane ticket just to make it home. When we're trying to make progress, life's curve balls often feel like taking one step forward and two steps backwards. A Chime checking account makes financial progress easier with features like no maintenance fees, fee free overdraft up to $200, or getting paid up to two days early with direct deposit. Don't even ask me how I paid for my first house when I made it to the league. That's the beauty of Chime. Chime helps you make progress, fee free overdraft up to $200 by applying your next deposit to your balance. In addition, there's no monthly fees or maintenance fees, and chime offers over 50,000 fee free ATMs. Make progress towards a better financial future with Chime. Open an account in 2 [e-mail] nightcap that's chime.com nightcap Chime feels like progress. Banking services and debit cards provided by Bancorp North America or Stride Bank North America members, FDIC Spot Me eligibility requirements and overdraft limits apply. Booths are available to eligible Chime members enrolled at Spot Me and are subject to monthly limits. Timing depends on submission of payment file fees. Apply at out of network ATMs.

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Ocho Baker says dumb stuff from the laws will wear on. Will wear on me for a while. How long did it take you to get over the playoff loss, Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well. Well. Oh, shoot. Normally during the regular season there's a 24 hour rule. Playoffs is a different ball game. Obviously I didn't, I didn't go to the playoffs much, but I remember the loss to the Jets. Not only the loss of the Jets. I remember my abysmal performance against Revis. Obviously one of the.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, listen. One of the greatest. One of the greatest. One of the greatest DBs of all time.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Can I, can I, can I finish?

[Discover Representative]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

One of the greatest DBs of all time and one of the greatest seasons of all time for any DB that 2009 season. So obviously I was upset at that. It took me a little bit longer to get over not just that loss, but me not being able to contribute in the way I felt I should have been able to in that loss in 2009. So maybe, maybe about a week. Maybe about a week. And not only that, I went back watching, watching tape over and over and look at all the things that I could have done, all the mistakes that I did do on why things didn't go well for me from an individual standpoint. Then I looked at us, looked at the game again in its totality and why we lost offensively. And it was just. It was, it was, it was. It sucked. It sucked. So about, about a week after, after a week, you know, I kind of let it go, let it brush off and just took my time off and enjoyed my off season.

[Discover Representative]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

A month?

[Discover Representative]

Yeah, Jacksonville, you never get over that, right? Because, you know, we had the superior team. They outplayed us that day and we lost. It's really that simple. We got away from what had gotten us there, which was Terrell running the football. We all of a sudden we want to throw it all over the yard and that's not what we were. Thank God Mike didn't make that. Ever make that mistake again. And TD ran us home. That's why in eight games, four of those games, he had TD played in eight playoff games. Four of those, he ran for 150 or more, which is an NFL record that Derrick Henry just tied, right? Seven of those eight he rushed for 100 yards. The only game he didn't. With that first game against Jacksonville, he had 91 on 14 carries. All the other games, he was well over 100 yards. Yeah, I mean, it hurts, man, when you put the kind of time in and the kind of time that you put in to be great at a craft. And I think the thing is with Baker is that he fumbled the ball and it gave. Gave Washington the momentum back into this ball game. That's what stings. That's what really, really stings, you know, having a drop in a big moment. And, you know, I don't think you ever get over that, even unless you win. I mean, yeah, I mean, I still think about Jacksonville, but it's a little easier because I did end up going three more times to the, you know, getting to the super bowl three times on show, and I won, right? But I still think about that. I could have had four. Maybe we could have won three in a row. So there's a lot of things that, you know, you, You, You. You get in your own head sometimes. And, you know, you. You think, what if?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right?

[Discover Representative]

And I. I hate that because I. I've done, you know, I've done that like, damn, think about that in relationships sometimes. What if. Yeah, what if I. What if I. What if I. What if I gave someone what I.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, do you understand? If you put the kind of time and discipline and fortitude and want to study in time that you put in the football into a partner and do, or you'll be. You'll be. Boy, you'd be the best husband, man. Boy, a woman with.

[Discover Representative]

You know what? That's my thing. You know what, Ojo? I might have to go back. I might have to go back. I might have to go back to. Well, I. I know what she told me. I know what she told me. I know. Both of them told me the same thing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wait, don't say it yet. Wait, let me give my pen and paper now.

[Discover Representative]

No, no, no, no. I ain't gonna say it on there. I ain't gonna say it on there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, okay.

[Discover Representative]

Okay. Okay. Yeah, okay. I know why. She told me why. And both, I mean, two therapists told me the same thing, right? Neither knew the other because they were. They were, you know, 20 years apart, but they told me the same thing. Why I'm like that. Why I do what I do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Hey, that thing that was. I really thought about that yesterday, and I did homework today. Now, we talked about, you know, relationships, and we talked about therapy, and you told me how therapy helped, but it got to the point where you just couldn't do it no more. You couldn't do it anymore because you, You, You. You were doing so much. You were starting to lose a sense of self. No. So I put. Hey, yo, rare. Yeah, so I. I did my own homework. I did some research. And, you know, my research was more so. Looking at the prices. Looking at the prices, you know, and, you know, it's kind of hefty, huh? It's kind of. It's kind of hefty. So I'm thinking instead of me. Instead of me getting going to a therapist, I mean, I could. I could slide you a hundred dollars.

[Discover Representative]

Oh, you talk and you talk to me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Yeah. You know, you could be the mediator. You know, I already. Listen, I already owe you 5,200, so.

[Discover Representative]

Yeah, you do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I can pay you 5,200. And you can use that. That can go to the. The fee.

[Discover Representative]

So that'll be your therapy. Pay with her.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bingo. Right there.

[Discover Representative]

This man tried to hire therapist with money he already owes somebody. Ocho Ed Reed is headed to high school. He was announced as the new Ed OC at Chambly High School. Right down the road from the crib. Chambly. You know, Ocho, it was all in my.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All of my arms.

[Discover Representative]

Whoa, whoa.

[Chad Ochocinco]

She got a little too comfortable, but okay. Come on.

[Discover Representative]

You see, Air Reid is the new OC at Chambly High School in Georgia.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Discover Representative]

You remember one time, Ocho, he was in the running to be the head coach at Bethune.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bethune Cookman. And then when he got to the establishment, you know, it wasn't fit to his liking. And normally you have, though, you have a talk with. With the powers that be at the institution, you know, but he, you know, he took it the wrong way and kind of put it. Put it on the airways and they didn't like that. You know, I'm happy for Ed. I'm happy for Ed. And it's a great opportunity for that school. And they got a good one. Boy, they got him a good one.

[Discover Representative]

They do. I wish he could have got that job. I wish things could have worked out better for him. At.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, that would have been nice.

[Discover Representative]

Yeah, it had been really nice. You see Eddie George at Tennessee State. Coach prime was at. At Jackson. Now he's at cu, right? D. Jack desean Jackson is at, uh, Delaware State. What is it? Delaware State.

[LifeLock Representative]

Yeah, yeah.

[Discover Representative]

Uh, Mike, Mike, Vic is at uh, Norfolk. So, uh, I'm uh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, shoot. Since all these players getting coaching jobs, what you want to put. You, you want to put your, your.

[Discover Representative]

Hand and I don't. You just told me they don't make enough money.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, shoot. I mean the kind of, kind of money. I mean, not like we. Never mind.

[Discover Representative]

I don't have. You probably could do it, but I don't have the patience. I know me, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, you, you mess around and put me in an atmosphere like that where my body is still willing and able. I'm still in shape. I'm gonna be in the way because I'm have. I'm gonna be out there suited up and holding that whole uniform, police and all.

[Discover Representative]

No, I don't. I want no part of coaching. I'm smart enough, you know. Yeah. Hines Ward is at Arizona State. I think Hines Ward is going to be a coach, going to be a head coach soon. You receive a coach, I think. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Discover Representative]

I mean there are a lot of guys. Hold on. Antoine Randall is in Detroit. I think Kenan McArdle's in. Is in Minnesota. Yeah, yeah, but I'm just. No, I'm not. That happens. I want no part of coaching me, fool. I ain't gonna finna hold nobody on that. O show the reports. There are multiple instances in which Jimmy Butler skipped morning shoot arounds and insisted on taking private flights separate from the team. This is what ultimately led to his seven game team suspension. Oh, man, I wish I met man. Hey, look, private PJs aren't cheap, right? And I know, hey, I might be mad. Hey, I know I ain't spending my money. I'm not spending my money. I'm flying on that team playing. I might not like playing Riley. I might not like that situation.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right?

[Discover Representative]

But I'm not coming out my pocket no hundred plus thousand dollars today from Miami. You had to bottom ain't no cheap play unless you go in Orlando.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right, right.

[Discover Representative]

But you know, hey, they be playing in Portland. They be all over. Oh, dude.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, Listen you uncle, you got to remember now, you got to understand and remember the kind of money they making. They making a different kind of money, boy. Yeah, a different kind of money. The money they cut, the kind of money they make is aki. I call it aki.

[Discover Representative]

Oh, but, but here's the thing though, Ocho, you do that. I mean, yeah, I mean, but you spend. I mean, how long was he gonna do it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Maybe until things were resolved.

[Discover Representative]

Internally, I'm gonna be on that plane. I'm gonna let my agent and them resolve it. I'll let my agent and resolve that. I ain't resolving it by coming out my pocket.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Discover Representative]

Oh, no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Discover Representative]

I cannot do it now. Maybe he got a hookup or something, Ocho, that he gets one at a discount. Hey, maybe he has his own. But I think the smart thing to do hours in one, you know what I'm saying? Have a timeshare, says I'm gonna get, you know, spend 100 hours. Yeah, 100 hours probably cost you two meal.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What? And it's so funny. It's so funny. I'm acting excited about two meal. And I'm thinking about it like, you know, I hear all the stories, you know, our circle is all the same, you know?

[Discover Representative]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And I'm thinking about there's a certain person. I ain't saying no name. Cause I'm not one that, you know, drop no name. But when gamble, you know, tip two men, ain't nothing for them to lose or win. And I'm not talking about, I mean, I ain't even talking about Jordan. I'm talking about, you know, you know, heavy gambler, you know.

[Discover Representative]

Yeah, I used to gamble like that. But you know what, Ocho? I. When you. You can gamble like that, if you can look at those chips and don't see them as money, they're just objects. And I can no longer do that. I started looking at. I started thinking, I'm like, hell, that's. That's a year of my mortgage payments right there. I just got there on the table right there. That's a year of mortgage payments right there. Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's different.

[Discover Representative]

My son's tuition. That's my son tuition for a year right there. That's my daughter's tuition right there. I'm like, nah, I'm done. That's it. Because I can no longer. When I was. When I. I used to be able, like, oh, 5,000, 10,000 ain't nothing. It didn't dawn on. I didn't. I didn't think about it. But once I started looking at it and it started like, oh, no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

No, you know what?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You look at it, you look at it at a different lens when you're done playing. So you, you, yeah. You understand the value of a dollar when you're done playing, when you don't have that money coming in like that. Like, you know, when it's coming in fast, week to week, every week. Oh, it's different. It's different.

[Discover Representative]

Yeah. You know, everybody get off money now, ojo. Oh, yeah. Like, I. I had, like. I got a Range robot. It's 2012, right? It's a 2013, but I got it in October 2012, because, you know, the year the. The 13 model came out in October before.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

Oh. So I got 37, 000 miles on the car.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, you. You want to get it up off your hands?

[Discover Representative]

No. And my. My passing guy. Well, Shannon, you know. Hey, you hadn't bought anything, and you hadn't bought. Well, actually, I just bought my mom a car. Let me get the airport. It's on your seat joint. I just bought my mom a car today, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

What you got? What you got?

[Discover Representative]

What you got E350.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boy. You got money, boy? A E350?

[Discover Representative]

Yeah, I got a. I got. She got a little E350.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. Oh, well, you don't be playing. What?

[Discover Representative]

Nah, nah, nah. The whole thing is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Tell mama shop I say, congratulations, man.

[Discover Representative]

Yeah, she does. Yeah. She probably been driving all around to my. I think the. Thanks, baby, for my car. I had to stop at Walgreens to get my medicine. I said, you could have had that medicine sent to your house. Mama, you trying to show that car. You think you slick, Mama. My mama. My mama show up for sure. For 1000% for certain.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let her put it up again. Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, she. I bought her car many years ago. She had that car, right? She didn't want to talk about. That's my baby. I had this car. This is my gift. I said, mama, if I buy you another car, it's a gift, too. I'm confused, but it's just. It's just. I just had it for so long. Yeah, she traded in. Guess how much they gave her for it. Ocho, how much? $500. I paid 250 to have it towed up there. So in other words. In other words, she got 250 for that damn car. So that just. That showed you type of condition the car was in, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, man.

[Discover Representative]

Oh, but no, she happy. She happy she got her car. She could profile harder. Harder. Her, the girlfriend, they go to. They go to the casino. She go to church. So.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, she go. She play bingo, too.

[Discover Representative]

She Just the slots.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, slots, okay.

[Discover Representative]

Just the slots. Yeah, yeah, she don't play no bingo, but. Nah, she. She. Yeah, she happy with that. Hey, I told her I go get her something, and I got her that. So. Got my brother something last March. My sister say she good she don't want nothing. She said she like a little car.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I got. I got. I got one. I got one coming on the way, man.

[Discover Representative]

Man, I bought my sister Kia. Yeah, man, she loved that car you got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Lucky Mine. My daughter getting ready to graduate. I made her a deal. She say, daddy, if I graduate early, can you give me a car? See, yeah, I can get you a car. That ain't nothing. Then she told me what kind of car she wanted, and now I gotta. Now I gotta. I gotta keep my word, ma'am.

[Discover Representative]

She said, what kind of car she want?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You want a G wagon?

[Discover Representative]

Oh, Lord, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I say, sheyo. She said she want a G wagon. I say, baby, like you have all these different type of calls that. That you can. You can choose from. Are you sure you want a G wagon?

[Discover Representative]

No, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes. He said, yes. I say, well, hold on. How you gonna pay your insurance? How you gonna get gas? He said, yes, once I graduate, I'm gonna have a job. I said, well, I tell you what, when you graduate and you get your job and you have some consistent revenue and income flowing in, I'm gonna get you your gwac. I'm a stick to my word. I'm gonna get a G wagon.

[Discover Representative]

I can't get all that kind of money.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, that's gonna. Now, it's gonna be a ripple effect now, because if I get down, what you think else gonna happen from the rest of it, of course, you know.

[Discover Representative]

Nope.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But it's. It's all good. Listen, I got 50, 11 jobs I can't complain about. Nathaniel. I can't complain.

[Discover Representative]

Hey, we gotta be reasonable.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

Because the maintenance and the upkeep on it, they pop the A.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, no, hey, listen, I should. I should have thought about that. About, what, 21, 22 years ago, you know?

[Discover Representative]

No, you should have put a limit on it. Say, hey, this is what. Hey, this is what I'm winning. Spin for a car, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

But they don't ask for nothing. That's why. Remember I told you. I told you how mine are. They don't ask for that. Holidays, birthday. That's it.

[Discover Representative]

No, I can't get. Okay, I can't. I can't get your first car.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, this ain't. This ain't her first. Oh, no, this will be her second. So, you know, I'm taking from, you know, her little starter car and let her graduate a little bit. Let her have a little fun. Let her live a little bit. Let her. Look. Let her live a.

[Discover Representative]

No, no, no. You got to make them hungry.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Oh, she hung. She hungry. She hungry. That's why she graduating early.

[Discover Representative]

G Wagon. Hey, but, hey, if that's what. Hey, that's what I. I just. No, I ain't been. I ain't. I ain't finna start that. And plus, I already got the kids a car. I got. Everybody called. They left debt free.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

Oh, Joe. Now it's time for our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Abraham Sarwa Bangan. Ocho really put cap. Put the cap in. Nightcap. Jenny. April. I knew Ocho was trolling, and the chat is shady. Quick to turn. Congrats anir. Of course. But I, I, I, I, I text Ocho. I say. I say. See, I say. Now, a lot of those people, oh, I love Uncle Ocho, but quick. They were quick to try to drive that wedge in between Uncle Ocho. You see that? You see that? But see, sometimes you need to see it for yourself because. And that's why. That's why I tell people. Everybody that jump into my. Oh, I'm happy. I'm excited. They not. No, they really not. No. And I. And sometimes you have to see it for yourself. And I'm glad we got an opportunity to see. Yeah. Do we got people that's very excited for us, that cheer us on and sincerely and genuinely happy? Absolutely. But there's a lot that pretend they're happy and excited, and all the while, I sure hope they break up. I sure hope they break up because we got something going. They know. Because here's the thing, Ocho. A lot of people that do what we do, they know what they do, right? And they see what we do, and they know what we do. So they don't. Yeah, yeah, they know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Most definitely. Listen, I mean, a lot of people, you know, my, My. My supporters, my followers, they. They were. They were. They were saying some. Some mean things, you know? So they apologize to y'all for patrolling today, but.

[Discover Representative]

But sometimes you need to see. Oh, Joe, you gotta see who really in your corner. It's like when you tell somebody no, and they say, okay, I understand, bro. You don't been so good to me so many times, Ocho. Oh, hey, I ain't got no problem with you saying no, but it's when they say no, like, well, damn, bro. Right. You got that money like that, you can't break your boy off again.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

Then you know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Mm. But listen, I'm. Again, I'm happy for her and all that she has going on. Obviously, you Know, with her real real estate company, you know, Netflix stuff she has going on with Netflix, you know, show coming out.

[Discover Representative]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

February 22nd. Then obviously, the podcast up on our umbrella. And this is. This is what it's all about, you know? You know, having someone on your side that you can continue to help elevate in whatever it is they have going on. It's a beautiful feeling, even. Even though, you know now, what is not a joke is that things aren't where they should be between us. I can just be honest with you and chat. I could be honest with y'all, too.

[Discover Representative]

Yeah. Continue to work. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. It's rocky. It's rocky. So the fact that I can compartmentalize and separate, you know, the business side of things and. And. And work on the pleasure side later. Later on down. Later on down the line, you know, whatever. UNC decides to be the moderator and. And be our therapist. But other than that.

[Discover Representative]

What we got? James Coleman. Whoa. Y'all ninjas got me. Boy, I was hot during the humble baddie signing. First fifth doll balled up. Good luck to all involved. He done pulled our photos. Ocho look bad. Be excited. Yeah, because here's the thing, Ocho. They're like, man, you don't. You don't put no black people on, okay? We put black people on, man. You should. Well, damn. Everything ain't gonna always be perfect. It's not gonna always be perfect in order to put your people on. Right. We're trying to give people an opportunity. I've been very, very fortunate to be in a situation where the volume gave me an opportunity. And we've been able to build this thing from the ground floor and be able to help people. We're able to do that with 520. We've been able to do that with bubble dub. Now we have humble baddies. I go now is to get three more. We're gonna wait. We going out, we scout, we looking, and we're gonna try to bring three more up under the umbrella. Provider, infrastructure, be able to produce this. This is your vision. What do you want? But we have. We believe we have the people in place. We have the distribution to help this thing grow to what you believe it can be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right?

[Discover Representative]

I thought, oh, well, so much.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, did you. Did you. Did you put any thought into the. Into that wilderness show? Me and you in the country, hunting.

[Discover Representative]

Catching Ocho, you ain't never shot a gun in your life.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's the whole point of having the show. You teaching me how to hunt, how to. How to. How to catch squirrels and bears and deer and skin them and eat them. So if we don't catch. If we don't catch no food, if we don't catch no fish, like, we starve.

[Discover Representative]

Oh, I'm not gonna starve because I know how to fish. I know how to hunt.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So, like, it's like a wilderness show. Funk and Ocho in the wilderness.

[Discover Representative]

Like Survivor Ocho. But here's the thing. When are we gonna have time to shoot a show?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, we gotta find time. Man, we gotta find. We gotta find time.

[Discover Representative]

Ocho, you like having 50, 11 jobs. I'm trying to scale back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I ain't trying to scale back. I ain't trying to scale back because I'm.

[Discover Representative]

I'm trying to scale back. Nah, I mean, I'm about to have to hit the road. We about to have to go. What? We just activated. Florida, Illinois, Baltimore, Virginia. I'm about to have to hit the road for. For laportier.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

If it was a. Listen, if you look at the college teams that all had a bye week, you saw what happened to them. That is not the same when it comes to NFL teams. Players need that rest if you really want the first piece so you can get that bye week so players that are nicked up they can heal up and be a little bit more healthy come time to the not divisional round. What round is that? Oh, the division.

[Discover Representative]

Yeah. This week we just wrapped up wild card. This was the final wild card. Now we're in the division around you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Get that one seed and you get that that week off. Man. Players love it. Love it.

[Discover Representative]

Yes. Yep, it's but and plus they've been here. This is what they normally do. They normally have the one seed. So it is not like it's not something they're not used to. Now last year was different. They were the three seed ended up having to take that show on the road. But one thing we learned about the the Kansas City Chiefs, it doesn't matter. They got 15 and as long as you got 15 and you got Big Red and they call them plays, they.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Good, you got a chance.

[Discover Representative]

They good. Smith said when bike when the Vikings needed Darnold the Most, he vanished. 14 and three point a season. If you're going to Cancun a week after everyone else. Yeah, he just, it didn't have, you know, look, he didn't have a whole lot of time. But sometimes you just look, I mean, Sam Darling is what Sam Darnold is. He's a guy he. He's not gonna make a whole lot of plays outside the play sheet. What you call. He can operate. He's not like Lamar, he's not like Pat Mahomes, he's not like Josh Allen. He's not a guy that's going to be able to get off script and if you know something breaks down, he's going to be able to make it work. That's not who he is, Ocho. And you got to be. You got to understand that. Just understand who he is. He had a phenomenal season. But the question is, do you believe he could replicate that? If you. Do you believe this was an anomaly or this is the new norm?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think it's a new norm. Yeah, I think it's the new norm because of what he has around him. I always say a quarterback is as good as his supporting cast. Unless you are special tier one quarterback that can elevate the players around. Regardless on your team, as long as you got Addison and Hawkinson and Justin Jefferson and Aaron Jones, you will be just fine.

[Discover Representative]

What we got here? Justin Rodden. Vikings need to let Sam walk like they did Keenan for Mike Evans should be all pro every year. He's must see tv. NFL needs to add more spots to the roster. Well, I mean they've added a slot. They take a fullback now. It used to be two running backs and the fullback never got added. They have a slot db. So I mean, I don't. They got what they got. Edge. They got edge rushers. It used to be just DNS and so it was. It's always. It was two middle linebackers, three outside linebackers, two DNS, 3D ends and 3D tackles. I think that's how it used to be. Ocho with three safeties and, and three corners because it used. I think that's how it was but you know, they did away. Even the Pro bowl show used to. They used to take three running backs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

Like, okay, if you take three running back, who blocking? So you want Barry to block the image or you want everybody block for Baron? You ain't about to get no rush yards, right? Just say it. I'm just letting you know. You just know you're gonna throw it. And it used to be all the left tackles. Now you know you got a right. A right tackle that could be an all Pro because it used to be all left tackles that were all pros unless some right tackle had some phenomenal season.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Discover Representative]

But for the most part, it was left tackles. But now they take that. But walk dog 44 tail prime to hire y'all. If he goes to the Cowboys, hopefully he won't take it. He won't take the job. He ain't gonna hire me. He already know I talked to him, too. But he know me. I want no part of coaching.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Discover Representative]

On nobody's staff.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don't hire me. Let me come play for veteran minimum Samuel Griffith.

[Discover Representative]

Hey, Nightcap. Just received some of the new Nightcap gear for my birthday. If you're a Bengals gm, would you trade Jamar Chase for Travis Hunter? Hell, no. You need a guy that's gonna produce the points, and you're not. Ain't nobody gonna trade you. Ain't nobody gonna trade because first of all, why would you do that? You weaken your offense if you do that. Like. Like Ocho said, you may, you know, try to make a deal to try to go get Jair. I mean, it's gonna cost you. But no, I'm not trading. I'm not trading Chase for a Hunter, Mario, Rubio, Shannon. Where would you rank in terms of tight end? Ojo, where would you land as all time receiver? I'm top five. That's my final answer. I'm going with that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm 85th.

[Discover Representative]

I. I don't know. I'll let y'all rank. All I know is I got everything I could out of my ability. I played as hard as I can every time I could. Every time I stepped on the field, I tried to represent the Sharpe family. My grandma, my family, my brother, my sisters. I tried to represent the Broncos or the Ravens. I tried to represent the fan base that I was representing. I got all I could. I squeezed. I squeezed this orange and got every drop.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

And then when I couldn't have no more juice, I ate. I ate the orange, and then I used the orange peel for zest. I had nothing Left. So wherever the fan base want to rank me or whoever's ranking it, have at it. But I love my career.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

7Th round draft kick pick, 7th round pick from an HBCU Pro Football hall of Fame. My number is up in the stadium without Chris beside it. I think I did okay. So whatever. Whatever. Whatever they say I am, I say top five. But if you want to say I'm somewhere between top 10, I can deal with that, too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Nash, I don't.

[Discover Representative]

Jaton Justice Chat. My dog wags his tail when he sees Unc. Must be the dog person or something. Yep. I love animals. Animals love me. Yeah, I need it. Like I said, I'm gonna give me a farm. But, yo, I want me. I really want me a mini cow, a mini goat, a mini horse, and a raccoon.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, if you're gonna. If you're gonna have a farm, you're gonna need more than four animals.

[Discover Representative]

I ain't gonna have that kind of farm.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, you just said a farm. It's only one kind of farm.

[Discover Representative]

No, no, no, no. That's a farm. You talking about a ranch?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, you want a mini farm to go with your mini animals?

[Discover Representative]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give me like, two. Give me like, an acre or two.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, okay. I like that. I like that.

[Discover Representative]

Huh? They got friends. So the cow be a friend to the goat. The gold beak, she give friends to the horse. Then I got to keep Titus, because Titus gonna be chasing them. No, Teddy will chase him. Titus will be like, whatever.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right?

[Discover Representative]

Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Doc, what it do? Do you think you love animals so much because they show you unconditional love? I'm sure it's challenging trying to find someone who loves you as deeply and unconditionally as you want them to. I just. I mean, growing up around animals, Ocho, I've always. I've always. I've always had this love with animals, right? I've always said it that if I ever came into me, I'm gonna have. I'm gonna have pets. I've had dogs since 1992. Yeah. And then when I got an apartment, they wouldn't let me have the dog because I had two Rottweilers. I let my sister take them, and then at that point in time, I started renting the house. And so I've had. I've had dogs. We grew up with dogs. My grandmother, we had dogs. Now, we didn't treat the dogs like. Like I treat my dogs now. And, you know, Peter, don't get mad, but it was tied up under A shed. They wasn't walking around. Right. My grandfather, my uncle, them had hunting dogs that we had in pens. You know, we had. They had black and tan, they had red bones, had blue ticks, tree walkers, things like that, you know, Bloodhounds. Not a bloodhound. Mr. Grant Hunt had a bloodhound, but they had hunting dogs. Yeah. You know, my uncles never big hunters. My grandfather used to have dogs, but we had. I think he only had one by the time I was around. Named Joe Boy. But I've always. I love pets. Yes. No matter. I mean, I yell at Titus and he get upset. He'll go get in his pen and I say, I'm sorry, bro. I ain't mean to yell at him. He come out, he's just as happy. Teddy don't care. You yell at Teddy, Teddy like go get. Go with his pajamas on. He ain't pay you no attention.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Discover Representative]

You know what it is, Doc? I haven't devoted the kind of time to the relationship like I have other things. That's my problem. That's in a nutshell.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I like that.

[Discover Representative]

That's it. That's it. But you, y'all, they try to. Doc tried to make me get emotional. Elijah Moses. Hey, uncle. No Joe. Second day. Second day. My 24 two days is my 24th birthday. Can I get a shout out? Some advice for being in sports media. If the Eagles don't win the super bowl, does Saquon not getting the record. More of a disappointment. Well, happy early birthday. Hopefully you do something fun. You got something mapped out, bro. When you get into this space, just understand what you're gonna have to sacrifice. You see, sports are played on the weekends. They also played during the holidays. Are you going to be okay being away from your family? Is that okay? Sometimes people forget that. Like, I want to do this, the X, Y and Z. But do you understand what comes along with X, Y and Z?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

They're gonna have to be sacrifices that you're gonna have to make. And if you're not willing to make that sacrifice, you don't deserve to be successful. So that's. That's what I tell people that want to get into the media space, is that you do understand that sports happen on the weekend holidays, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year, out. Are you willing to give that up? Are you willing to sacrifice that? Then do your partner understand that that's what you're gonna have to sacrifice? So, yeah, yeah. It's gonna be more disappointment if they don't win the Super Bowl. Hell, it's gonna be Disappointed if he didn't win the Super Bowl. Because that's good. Because I believe you could have had both. Yeah, see, it's. They're not mutually exclusive. That don't mean. Because if he got the record, he wouldn't win the super bowl. And if he win the super bowl, he didn't. They could have got the record. Why couldn't he get both?

[Chad Ochocinco]

He couldn't.

[Discover Representative]

Yes, yes. Tremendous. Said, hey, Uncle Nocho, tomorrow is also my birthday. Can I get a shout out? Also, do you believe certain quarterbacks like Lamar only get judged by what they do in the playoffs? Tremendous. Happy birthday, man. Early birthday. If you're on the east coast, it's your birthday now. No, all quarterbacks, that's Lamar caliber get judged by what they do in the playoffs. Because that's the ultimate test. Playoffs. That's the, that's the, the highest test that you could take. Ojo. It's like you're, you're, you're a fourth year law student.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

And you got to take the highest test. You know, you got to pass the bar. The playoffs is the bar. And you keep taking it and taking it until you pass it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Discover Representative]

So no, Lamar is going to get judged just like, just like seven. Elway got judged. All the quarterbacks get judged, especially bro. You realize Lamar is. I believe he's going to be a three time league mvp.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Crazy work.

[Discover Representative]

Three. Yes. Yes. Randy Alanis. Uncan Ocho. My lady's birthday. Her name is Elizabeth. Would you guys please give her a shout out? She's a real one. Also been. Also, when do the tickets for the show at the draft in Green Bay go on sale? We'll get to that. Happy birthday, Elizabeth. Randy wanted us to shout you out, let you know you're a real one. That you down. You hold him down. And he greatly, greatly appreciates that. And we appreciate you watching, Randy. Hopefully you have Elizabeth watching us with it. No tickets at this point, right? No tickets at this point. Yeah, we will be live. But we'll let you know what's going on, Randy, as it gets. Look, we'll know something here in the next month. We ain't gonna leave. We. We're not gonna leave you high and y'all. Randy. We promise. We promise. Thank you guys. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for watching. Y'all know me. I'm your favorite Aunt Shannon. That guy. Liberty City legend. Bingo. Ring of fame honoree. The Pro Bowler, the all Pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button, please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. You see, Ocho got his nightcap hoodie on to zip up every subscriber. Go subscribe. Guys, check this out. You guys have been so faithful so long. And he got the pants. Oh, so he got the outfit on. Yeah, you got the whole ensemble.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Dripped out. Dripped out.

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Yeah, you dripped out. You dripped out. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Because because of you, we're allowed loud to do what we do. Make sure you check out Shave by laportier. We do have it in stock. And the holidays celebrate. Somebody's gonna be very happy. Gonna make sure you have something to celebrate. And what better way to celebrate than with the bottle of Shea by La Portier. Now, if you cannot find it in a city or state near you, just order and we will ship it directly to your door so you have it in time for your big celebration. And please, please drink responsibly. Go subscribe to the Humble Baddies YouTube page. The link is pinned in our chat right now. Rail, Ashley and Alexis, their show is now up under the Shay Shay Media umbrella. We produce the show, they have creative control, and we distribute it. So this is Rail and her. Her girls. Yeah. No, it's not. It's not. It's not my ad. It's a different ad. So I knew it's guess what? And my clothing. Go follow the Shay Shay Media company page on all of its platforms. And my clothing company, 84, produced the outfit that Ocho has on the new sweats, shirts, koozies, beanies and mugs. Quantities are limited, so please make sure you grab yours while supplies last. Tickets for the super bowl show in New Orleans, our first spring tour stop, are on sale now. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. February 6th in New Orleans at the Mahalia Jackson Theater. Be there. You don't want to miss it. We got big guests coming on both Nightcap and Club Shay Shay are both nominated for NAACP Image Award. Nightcap was nominated for outstanding podcast Art, sports and entertainment. Club Shay Shay was nominated for outstanding podcast Society and culture, please go vote for you guys. The link is pinned in our social bios. Make sure you tune in for Wednesday show. We're gonna try something a little different. We got a couple of special guests that's gonna join us. Because Ocho and I, we constantly trying to evolve. We're constantly trying to do, try to add and so give our viewing and listening audience something to digest, something to chew on. And so we think you're gonna really like this. Let us know what you think. We take all feedback, positive, negative and otherwise. But this is what it's about. We're going to try to constantly, always evolve, push the envelope, make sure we try to educate you, inform you, as well as entertain and the Rams they move on to face the Philadelphia Eagles with a demolition job over the Minnesota Vikings. 27 9. The Rams defense sacked Sam Donald nine times, forced to fumble, scoop and score as they win going away. 21 9. The Vikings finished the season 14 and 4. The Rams move on to face the Eagles on Sunday. Should be a very interesting game. Thank you for joining us for Nightcap. I'm He's Ocho. We will see you Wednesday night. Thank you again for joining us. The Volume.

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