Nightcap Hour 2: Allen Iverson CALLS OUT NBA Stars + Myles Garrett SKIPS Browns OFFSEASON PROGRAM + Jags Make Travis Hunter FULL TIME DB

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2 (April 10, 2026)

Host: Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Guests/Co-hosts: Chad Ochocinco Johnson (Ocho), Joe Johnson (ISO Joe), King ISO

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay’s "Nightcap Hour 2" dives deep into major sports headlines and culture, featuring Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco, Joe Johnson, and King ISO. The night covers Allen Iverson’s critique of NBA “load management,” discussions on player health and conditioning, Myles Garrett’s absence from Browns activities and what it signals for NFL holdout dynamics, the Jacksonville Jaguars' intentions for Travis Hunter, and engaging, comedic banter and audience Q&A. The chemistry and honest storytelling between the hosts make for a raw, insightful, and humorous conversation on professional sports, contracts, health, and family life.

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Main Themes & Highlights

• Allen Iverson Calls Out Modern NBA Stars
• NBA Load Management & Player Health
• Myles Garrett Skips Browns Offseason (NFL contract tactics)
• Jacksonville Jaguars Make Travis Hunter a Full-Time Defensive Back
• Candid Advice on Careers, Money, and Family
• Fan Q&A: Trades, Parenting, and Hilarious Life Stories

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Detailed Breakdown

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Allen Iverson Criticizes NBA Load Management

Discussion begins at [03:22]

• Ochocinco introduces the topic:
  “AI is calling out modern NBA stars for load managing... Now they crying about players not playing games. I played with every injury you can think of to the point they had to hide my jersey to keep me from playing.” — Ochocinco [03:22]

• Joe Johnson adds context:
  “I understand where AI coming from... I think we do have to take into consideration the way the game is being played today. It’s a lot faster, the tempo is more upbeat... these guys play at such a helter-skelter pace, and, you know, it’s starting to hurt our stars as we can see.” — Joe Johnson [03:51]

• Panel dives into what has changed:

  • The NBA tempo and minutes have increased, causing more wear on bodies.
  • New 65-game award eligibility rule is affecting top stars.
  • Contradiction noted: Less games = less money, so reducing schedule not a solution [05:19].
  • Training suggestions: more consistent offseason conditioning needed to handle year-long demands.

Notable Quote:
“Can you imagine running four miles every other night?” — Joe Johnson [05:31]

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Why Are There So Many Injuries Now?

Furthered at [06:15]

• Sharpe reflects on his NFL days:
  “We played a physical game... I don’t remember guys getting injured like they get now... Did guys have ACLs? Yes... but not these non-contact injuries.” — Shannon [06:15]
• King ISO & Ochocinco on toughness and practice pace:
  • Building ‘callus’ in the body through full-speed practice and never taking plays off.
  • Sharpe: Practice ("I enjoy practice. Practice was really the opportunity... to work on [nuances]").

Memorable banter:
“Nobody walk but the mailman. That’s why he don’t make what you make, right?” — Ochocinco [08:54]

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NBA Supermax Deals, 65-Game Rule, and Player Motivation

Segment starts [12:34]

• Superstars are now driven by 65-game threshold for supermax and awards:
  • "Wimby... ain't gonna miss that Defensive Player of the Year... Ant Man is gonna come back next year and do everything he can to make All-NBA." — Ochocinco [12:47]
  • The panel debates if financial penalties for missing games (from injury or rest) are fair.
  • Agreement: The current CBA and Players’ Association signed off on rules, now some regret it ("buyer's remorse").

Memorable exchange:
“It's hurting the game, bro.” — Joe Johnson [14:46]

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Transition to the NFL: Myles Garrett Skips Offseason Program

First mention at [26:19]

• Garrett’s absence puts $1m on the line:
  • “That puts him on track to lose $1 million in 2026 compensation.” — Ochocinco [26:19]
• Why is he skipping? Panel weighs in:
  • New coach/system as a possible reason.
  • King ISO asserts, “He don't want to be there, man... Sometimes the message is clear” [27:03].
  • Debate on the importance (and incentives) of being present as a leader for team culture.

Notable moment:
“If the Bengals put a million dollars... oh, you ain’t letting that go.” — Sharpe [32:19]

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Incentive Clauses: Players Getting Cheated?

Between [32:49] – [34:13]

• Ochocinco shares a personal story:
  “They screwed me out of that 100 grand... had 995 yards at the half... didn’t catch another pass.” [32:59]
  • Panel highlights teams manipulating playing time/stats to avoid paying incentives.
  • Animated discussion on why many players now refuse such clauses.

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Jaguars’ Travis Hunter to Focus on Cornerback

NFL news story at [46:45]

• Ochocinco reads the report:
  “Jaguars expect Travis Hunter to be a full-time corner and a part-time receiver...” [46:45]
• Panel breaks down why:
  • Playing both ways (WR and DB) at NFL level is too much; focus enables greatness.
  • “You could only be just good on both ends when you could just focus on one position and be great at defensive back... then have packages to play on offense where you can be impactful.” — King ISO [47:29]
• Historical references:
  • Made to Deion Sanders, Charles Woodson, Roy Green—other rare two-way NFL athletes.

Joe Johnson’s take:
“But I love seeing Travis on offense, too. Boy got some hands...” [50:51]

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NBA, NFL Trade Talk & Draft Speculation

Fan Q&A at [54:01]

• Big trades coming? Panel predicts:
  • “I say Myles Garrett is on the move... and probably A.J. Brown after June 1st.” — King ISO [55:41]
  • Dexter Lawrence’s sack total dip—discussion on paying for potential vs. past performance.
  • “I paid him... Now I’m paying books based on what I think you’ll do... I can’t pay you what you’ve done because I’ve already paid you.” — Sharpe [57:26]

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Career Advice, Fatherhood, and Comedic Stories

Fan voicemails begin at [52:25], heartfelt advice at [61:05]

• Listener question on working jobs you hate to provide:
  • “Work the job that you have until you can find a job you want... you got two little boys depending on you...” — Sharpe [61:14]
• Hosts reminisce about off-season life, parenting, aging, and relationships, laced with locker-room humor.

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Notable Quotes & Banter

• “Practice was really the opportunity... the guy that sees me every day in practice... he knows all the little nuances of my routes.” — Sharpe [10:13]
• “Can you imagine all us, with our babies pushing strollers at the park?” — King ISO [35:07]
• On incentives: “100,000 was a lot of money to me because I was only making 325, right? That’s not a little chunk of change.” — Ochocinco [34:05]
• On Travis Hunter: “I hope you become not just a DB, but a traveling DB that follows the number one on every team, and then have small packages on offense.” — King ISO [50:23]

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Other Highlights & Humor

• Parenting and “taking one for the team” banter:
  The hosts joke about fatherhood, IVF costs, and ‘taking one for the team’ in social situations.
• Wide receiver prospects and NFL draft:
  Ohio State’s Jeremiah Smith is pegged as a likely #1 overall pick if he keeps performing; panel reminisces about previous #1 WRs.
• Golf and the Masters:
  Some quick coverage on favorites and merchandise madness.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:22 — Allen Iverson’s callout of NBA load management
• 05:31 — NBA’s new pace and physical toll
• 12:34 — Supermax contracts and 65-game rule
• 26:19 — Myles Garrett skips Browns offseason, contract dynamics
• 32:49 — Ochocinco’s personal incentive clause story
• 46:45 — Jaguars make Travis Hunter a full-time DB
• 54:01 — Live voicemail Q&A: Trades, fatherhood, TV show ideas
• 61:05 — Listener advice on working jobs for your kids

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Conclusion / Final Thoughts

The episode is a fast-moving mix of sports insight, athlete “war stories,” and honest life takes. Whether discussing contracts, player health, generational wealth, or just reliving wild times, the authenticity and jokes keep things raw and real.

Memorable Closing Advice:
“Work the job that you have until you can find a job you want... but don’t give up. Them boys are counting on you.” — Shannon Sharpe [61:14]

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For full context, listen from [03:22] (skip ads/intro)—the hosts’ dynamic and raw truth-telling make this a must-hear for sports fans and anyone who loves smart, unfiltered locker-room talk.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

is calling out modern NBA stars for load managing this this all hit different for me. Load management, they took me to the hell for allegedly not practicing. Now they crying about players not playing games. I played every I. He said I played with every injury you can think of to the point they had to hide my jersey to

[King ISO]

keep me from playing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

True story. Now we talking about the game. Not practice. Not practice. We're talking about the game. Don't cry now. What the baby gonna do?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey look, I, I understand where AI is coming from. Hey look, you talking to a guy who was iron man in the NBA for over a decade. Uncle Ocho. Like I, I thoroughly enjoy what I, what I was doing and I thoroughly enjoyed the game and I never wanted to cheat the game. But I think we do have to take into consideration the way the game is being played today. Meaning it's a lot faster, the tempo is, is more upbeat, more up, more, more, more pace. And you know, back when AI and T. Magnum was playing, the game wasn't played this fast, man. You know what I mean? Yeah, those dudes average 30 plus a night, but hell, they was the only one on their team who was doing that. They were. You won't put up about 85, 90 points. You know, 95 points a night. It's just, it's just totally different, man. These guys play at such a healthy skeleton pace and you know, it's starting to hurt our stars as we can see. A lot of us. Look, look man, can't nobody even make the 65 game threshold to even be, you know, in the conversation for any of these awards, you know what I mean? So it says a lot. I. I think the pace of the game has really, really has been upgraded to the point to where it's taking a load on a lot of these cats.

[King ISO]

So, Joe, what you think. You think the answer is? Obviously fixing the issue is. Is taking some of the games out because the pace is a little bit more beat now?

[Joe Johnson]

No, because they ain't gonna not. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because, you know, you play less games, you get less money. Ocho. Yeah, Yeah.

[King ISO]

I mean. I mean.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. You giving up some of your money?

[King ISO]

No, but I'm just saying, how do you figure? How do you. How do you fix the problem? How do you fix the issue when you. When you start your.

[Joe Johnson]

Your superstars, you're gonna have to train a lot harder, if you asking me. Meaning, like in the off season, you're gonna have to be. You're gonna. You can't take no month, two months off, bro. You kind of gotta stay consistent, you know, whether it's just staying in shape, running things of that sort. Because that's all it is, bro. It's just. It's the running part that's really killing Cats playing at this ultra high level, you know what I mean? Especially when we get in the postseason, you know, you can't take a playoff. You know, I know y'. All. We sit here almost every other night, man. I'll talk about, you know, playing the game of basketball is three and a half, four miles a game, bro. Can you imagine running four miles every other night?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Every night.

[King ISO]

Yeah, man. Up and down. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You definitely have to condition your body. You have to condition your body to withstand that kind of. And that's what OO and I was talking about, is that we played the physical game. They were hitting, we were doing all those things. They didn't ask us to go from 0 to 100 just on Sundays. We had to crank it up during the week, week. And I don't know if they crank it up like what. Like what we did. And I'm not saying the guys are not tough or they're. It's a different game now. We understand that, but. And maybe. Maybe it's because everything get covered. The NFL is covered so much different than it was when I played and when you played oo and even when the beginning, when I first got into the league. But I don't remember guys getting injured like they get now. I don't remember it, and I'm not Saying that it didn't. So I, so Chad, don't, don't, don't be, don't beat me up too bad. I just don't remember. Did God have acl? Yes, the dive have Achilles, but not, not these non contact injuries. Not the injuries that we have that we see now.

[Joe Johnson]

Look, look.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, definitely not to the side.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what I'm saying. It's happening to the stars, fellas. So that's. It lets you know that obviously they're playing a substantial amount of minutes and it's obviously wear and tearing on their bodies to where they're breaking down.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[King ISO]

I mean, Uncle Joe, you know, you know, my whole thing is obviously, for one, it's hard for me to even have, you know, input on conversations like this, being that I didn't have any injuries. But I, I always say, I know I play around with nutrition, but forget nutrition, you know, for this point. But I think people are players regardless of what sport you, what sports you play. You have to learn to build a callus in the body. You have to. Body has to get used to, you know, ramping up to a certain, to a certain amount, to a certain degree that you do on Sundays. Which is why when I did practice, I always practice full speed as if it was a game.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[King ISO]

You know, there was no relaxing. There was no, you know, you know, taking a play off. What. Hell, the funny part, I used to get cursed out on and walk through because I. Sometimes I would do walkthrough full speed. I mean, I wasn't doing it to be funny. I was doing it just so to continue to make sure my body stays acclimated and always at a high rate of speed at all times. And for some reason, I think it's those small things that I did that one of the reasons why I didn't, I didn't get hurt. And obviously I played the same sport UNC did, Joe. A barbaric sport. I played very reckless, Joe. You know, crossed the middle, you know, diving and hitting people, even though I lost. Every time I tried to hit somebody, I lost every single one, Joe. But I still never got hurt. And I'm out there talking, everybody trying to knock my head off, everybody trying to kill me, Joe. But I still never got hurt.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know, I mean, they call it walkthrough, but I was a brisk dog. It wasn't no walking. And it's like what they like, hey, pick it up. I said. You said it's a walk through. Die. That's just entitled. Ain't no walking, Right, right, right. You know, and I say it was. Nobody walk but the mailman. That's why he don't make what you make, right? And they done gave that joke. Mailman don't even walk no more.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on, hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You see the new.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know about y', all, but here in Georgia, boy, they got some new mail trucks in.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

In.

[Joe Johnson]

In the month, June and July. Them boys in ac.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[King ISO]

Hey, you see, they sit real low, right, Joe? They sit.

[Joe Johnson]

The mail truck is made different. It look almost futuristic now. Okay? Out of.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't seen the mail truck. Yeah. Cause them old mail trucks, they had

[Joe Johnson]

a little sliding door and had the one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Had the one seat in there, and the guy had the mail right there.

[King ISO]

He.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He pull up there to my. All your head, you go, hey. But he knew everybody. I mean, that's your. I like how you. How you know everybody. He done sorted the mail before he went out there. He know the route that he gonna go. Hey, first, the first box I stop off, he can put the mail right here. But, yeah, man, the mail. Them jokers, hey, they got on short,

[Joe Johnson]

says be sweating, have sweat all in their uniform. They having that now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, they.

[Joe Johnson]

They living good, boy.

[King ISO]

They be. They be clean now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But, yeah, I look. And the thing is practice. See, I. I enjoy practice. Practice was really the opportunity, Ocho and Joe, for me to really work on. Because this guy that he sees me every day in practice, he knows all the little nuances of my routes. And he know that little wiggle at the top. He know the little head, the head nod to the top, or the three steps to the, like, N. And the thing is, I. I give credit. Ronnie Bradford, Derek Dodge, Tony Ven. They would always give me great feedback. Yes, they like. Hey, they like, Shark. You got on your toes. I knew you was breaking because I would ask, I said, bro, how you. How you knew that route? He said, man, I saw you get on your toes at the top of it. So I just took a. I took. I know you breaking in or out, so I just took the. I took the thing upon myself to jump under it. Okay? So it killed me, okay, make sure I stay off my toes. And I. I would. You know, BP would have it cut up. And so I look at, like, damn, I gave it away. I gave it away. But I'm saying to myself, he don't know this. The guy that's in the game don't know this. But even. Even then, even though he don't know it, I'm Trying to cut out because I don't want to give away. No tendencies because we're Tennessee. Look, we study tendencies. We're gonna get TV copy. That's why they tried to get the cadence of the quarterback. We trying to get that. We trying to get how you stagger your stance and jump off the ball. We're trying to get that whether you're dropping, whether you're coming, whether you're doing a TE or et, whatever the case may be, we're looking at all that. That's how, that's how the game has evolved. That's how the great player they know. Ah, we got a bird over here. Which means he about to fly. He about to. Cool. Yeah. He said like hey. Cause and I had a thing was like. Because I didn't want grass to get on my thing because you know, I had those attackified gloves and I was like, if it was, if it was a pass, I'm down like this here. If it's a run, I'm like this. Ah, sure. You don't think, you know, huh? What? You know, don't worry about it. So I had, I had to pick. Sometimes you have to self scout yourself. But I agree with, I agree with AI. But I tell you what, Joe, just think if that 65 games wasn't in place, how many more games would they have missed? Let's just say for the sake of argument, the 65 game isn't the cutoff. A lot of guys came back just to make a 65 cut off.

[King ISO]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You're right. So we have other guys like Wimby. When we gonna get that 20 minutes in the last three games? He ain't gonna miss that. Defensive player of the year. He's not finna missing all NBA because now that puts him in line for supermax, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Jokic ain't gonna miss no more game because now he's in line for a supermax. Ant man is gonna come back next year and do everything he can to make all NBA. Because if he makes it now, he's in line for a supermax. And guess what? In 2025, in 2027, 82 million Shay up again. He just. Shade just signed four years, 295 last summer. This year. This year he has it to effect now.

[King ISO]

Hey, hey, hey, that's, that's crazy too when I think about it. Joe. And, and I'm, I'm talking about the play. I'm talking about the top players, you know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[King ISO]

You know, the, the Cades and, and the Wimbys and Some of the players that, you know, that deserve supermax based on their value and what they bring to the team skill set and what they're able to do, and the fact that, well, if they miss this amount of games, that means we can't reward you for what your true value is. That, that's, that's in, In a sense, that's messed up. It is. That's messed up. The fact that they even agreed to that when. Listen, injuries is a part of sports. Injuries is a part of anything, any sport you play. And the fact that now they're, they're kind of punishing players where if you miss this many games or you don't play this many games, you know what? We're not going to reward you with what your true value is because your ass always hurt. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And guys were just sitting out and see, here's the thing. How do you. That's their body. You don't know. They could be hurt. They could be telling me absolute truth. But, Ocho, when I got a game on a Saturday night and it's supposed to be a big game, or I got a game on a Sunday and guys sitting down in the street clothes and they got the check, NBA said, no, don't worry about it.

[King ISO]

Yeah, we gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna fix this.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, the NBA PA Signed off on it. Yo. They couldn't have done. They couldn't have done anything. This has to be. This is collective.

[Joe Johnson]

You're right. You're right. Huh? You're right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

See, the player signed off on it, and then it's like, oh, I got buyer's remorse. Because this is really. Hey, this is really. This really hurting me.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. It's hurting the game, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It is.

[Joe Johnson]

I, I, I don't think I, I don't think I've ever seen a year to where we've had this many of our stars out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, missed. Missed a significant amount of time. I don't think I've ever seen it, man. I'm telling you, for real, I think this is probably historic this year. Seriously.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. And. And the guys are getting bigger, Strat. Bigger, stronger, and faster. So they're gonna have to get. They're gonna have to get themselves in better condition.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they do, man. They do.

[King ISO]

Hey, Joe, you been in the gym yet?

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. Come on. Stay in the gym, baby. What's up?

[King ISO]

I'm talking about, like, you know, getting those shots.

[Joe Johnson]

Working on your lateral footage when I go tomorrow.

[King ISO]

Nah. Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, I gotta, I gotta show These shoes I got just for you, Joe. And I'm. I, I got them literally just to play you, to make sure you got. Hey, Joe, you. Hey, hey, hold on, hold on. I don't want to leave.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay,

[King ISO]

let me know, let me make a call and, and tell him to bring my shoes. Hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, look. Oh, I'm gonna tell his ass cat raggedy. He don't even know it.

[King ISO]

Hey, Joe, I promise you one thing. Joe, I promise you one thing. The way you think and you talk like you finna drag me on my mama.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't, don't, don't bring your mom in this. Don't, don't do that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't do that.

[King ISO]

I'm gonna tell you, Joe, I'm telling you how it's gonna be. Joe, I know you wanted a grade and Joe, I'd have studied you. Oh, Joe, I. Hey, hold on. I. I made a dv. I made a DVD in there, right? I made a DVD in there. I have all, all your, all your, all your, all your clips, right? Your best moves. So I've been watching your tendencies. What the move you like to do. Hey, 1, 2, and come back to the left and pull up. I. Joe, I've been watching it. Joe, I've been watching. No, you, you laughing. I'm serious. Tell me I'm lying. Dribble twice to the right, come back, cross over with the left and pull up right away.

[Joe Johnson]

Who raised dude, man? Okay, who raised this dude?

[King ISO]

For real, Joe, I got, Hey, I got the whole breakdown. Joe, I'm ready.

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You ready for it?

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on.

[King ISO]

Matter of fact, let me go get the shoes. Hold on, hold on, cuz, she sleep.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe, did you watch LeBron tonight? Did you see how he came?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, boy, I'm playing winning, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Did you see how he came out tonight, Joe? That's what we've been looking for, man. Damn, they'll get, get, get it. How you get it?

[Joe Johnson]

Look, the man, what he got? 26, 8 and 11.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

26, 11, 11 for 17. 11 or 17, 3 or 5. That's what I'm talking about.

[Joe Johnson]

But that's what I'm saying. If he gonna just assert himself early on, them rest of them dudes will catch up, man. The game will be easy for them too, you know what I mean? Like, you ain't necessarily gotta just come out and be Magic Johnson right off. Dump to where you just facilitating the whole first quarter, man. Damn all that. I need you to get to it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, he like you trying to break Scotty Scouts assist record trying to get 31.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you see.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hold up. We need. We need 35. Hey, hold up.

[Joe Johnson]

You see Brian there with 10 points, 4 for 7 from the field. You see Brian, I think, hey, look, I don't know about nobody else. Chat y. Y' all let me know what y' all think. But for me, when I watch the Lakers play, I love seeing Bronnie out there with LeBron for whatever reason, you know, I love seeing them run pick and roll together. I love to see Bron get assist off Bronnie. Bronnie get us, like. Because I feel like this is his. It's so historic that it's happening in real time. And a lot of people can't even appreciate it, but I can't even imagine being in the NBA, me and my son on the same team. Bro, that just sounds crazy. What's this you got, bro?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And LeBron, don't look at him as a son. Cause LeBron, he gave LeBron that bad pass against Dallas. He's like, bro, He probably got home, Savannah like, hey, don't you yell at my baby no more.

[King ISO]

Hey, hey. You know, it know, it's funny, all that cursing they do on the court, Joe. But you couldn't play with your son because the first time he cursed.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, you got them Kyries, huh?

[King ISO]

Yeah, yeah. Kyrie. Kyrie sent these to me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Kyrie be watching what they look like.

[Joe Johnson]

Let us see what they look like.

[King ISO]

Hey, hey. Kyrie be watching the show, right? And he told me. He gave me his blessing to give Joe that work.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna knock them damn tassels off them damn shoes, boy, when I get done with your ass.

[King ISO]

Hey, you see that, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[King ISO]

Hey, that's what you. Hey, that's what you're gonna see. You're gonna see them tassels going right by your ass. That's what you're gonna see, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Kyrie going back to his heritage.

[King ISO]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Kyrie. I appreciate that, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I love you.

[King ISO]

You hear me? I ain't gonna let you down. I'mma get Joe at work.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, they'll tell you. But what I'm hoping is they ain't going to be able to mess with what I got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't even going to show you.

[Joe Johnson]

You going to see them when? When you see me, partner? Yeah. That's how I roll. Yeah.

[King ISO]

Hey, hey. Okay, okay. Hey, man. Your mouth, Joe. Mind your mouth.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So I can breathe. Why do you need to breathe? So I can think If I can breathe, if I can breathe I can think, I can think if I can

[King ISO]

think if I can think then I can win.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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We're lost and kickoff's coming up. I don't want to miss the lineup. I'm gonna ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the stadium.

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[King ISO]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

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Let me get my phone out.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

number one seed his entire career. In 20, 18, 19 and 20 and 21 at Mihaha Academy. He was the number one seed in the 2021 fever under 19 world championship. Number one seed Gonzaga number one seed OkC, Oklahoma C OkC number one. Number one. Number one.

[Joe Johnson]

I told you what I told you Ocho during the playoffs. I said the better check becomes the the better OKC will be and he will determine whether they be a dynasty or not. Because if he played great, it's going to be hard to beat him. Look what he did yesterday, uncle ocho. He had 30 and 14. Yeah, four blocks, you know what I'm saying? So he Rim protecting. Not only is he scoring, but he rim protecting. He making the game easy, you know, for the guys around him as well. I think his growth and maturity for OKC will determine how great of a team that they are. Yeah, we know Shay Gonna put up 30 plus. We know Jalen. Jalen. Jalen Williams gonna do his thing. But if Chick can play at a high level, man, they gonna be almost unbeatable. Fellas,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

would you. Yeah, he. I mean, he's. Look, they just got so many. They just come at you. It's just gonna be. It's just gonna be hard for somebody to beat them unless they have. And. And the thing is, what are the likelihood of them having four bad nights?

[King ISO]

Not likely.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Four bad nights because they got guys that can shoot it. McCain was a great pickup. Caruso.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What's the lefty?

[Joe Johnson]

What's the other little lefty who be balling a little light skinned?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh yeah, I know you're talking about. I can't think of his name, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Is his name Mitchell?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It might be. It might be, man. But Jerry McLean was a solid pickup because remember he was playing really well in Philly before he got hurt.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, no, no.

[King ISO]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

He was a great pickup. You know, a very underrated pickup. You know, a guy who is hungry, ready to prove himself. Obviously he probably. He feels slighted for what happened to him in Philly.

[King ISO]

So.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, he coming over there with, with, with, you know, with Avengers, bro. He. He look good out there, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Check this out. Miles Garrett skipped the start of teams off season program that puts him on Track to lose $1 million in 2026. Compensation. Garrett Contracts includes a one million dollar workout bonus in 2026. To earn it, Garrett must participate.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't hear you. We can't hear you. Hey, what's happening? What's up?

[King ISO]

Hey, Joe. Man, Miles ain't. Miles ain't tripping about that, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Please. A million. What you mean he ain't tripping?

[King ISO]

Well, we talk about Miles Garrett. Boy, he's not there for a reason, huh? Sometimes. Sometimes the message is clear. The met.

[Joe Johnson]

The message. What's the message?

[King ISO]

Ojo, man, he don't want to be there, man. Come on now. Come on now. He don't want to be there.

[Joe Johnson]

So you think that's why he ain't showing up for the, for the. For the many camps.

[King ISO]

Yeah. He ain't never missed before. It's OTAs. It's obviously. OTAs is voluntary. It's in your contract. You don't have to come, but if you don't come, obviously you miss money. He never, he ain't never missed before, I'm sure. I, I, you know, don't quote me. I'm just saying, why would they make it a story now, if he's always been there? If he's always been there, he's not showing this here, you're not showing.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell, he got his money, Ocho. He, he took the money. If he ain't want to be have took the money, he took the money.

[King ISO]

Come on, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, we got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Can you guys hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we hear you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, but here's the thing, though. Oo. What do they have? New. What is, what's different Coaches. A new coach.

[King ISO]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

A new system.

[King ISO]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Remember, we had this car, the same thing with Lamar. We had this conversation about Lamar, new system. So, and look, I'm like, joe, if they had a million dollars in my contract. But like I said, he was trying to give me $50 a day. I said, the hell with you. I said, I worked my last 50 a day job when I was in, when I was landscaping back in college. I say, ain't no more 50 a day for me.

[King ISO]

But I got a question, I got a question for you. And think about this. Someone like Miles Garrett, you know. Yes. As well as he played last year, as well as he played in general, someone like that, that is as valuable as they are, who is the identity, not just that defense, but the identity to that franchise. They still won, what, five games, four games or whatever. Whatever it may have been.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Five and 12.

[King ISO]

Yeah. Joe, why not give him the opportunity to go somewhere else and give him a chance to win? Why? Why not? Because you losing with probably the greatest defense in that's playing in today's game, why not give him opportunity to do that?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, maybe, maybe they, and I think,

[King ISO]

and the message to me, I mean, I mean, I, I don't know, maybe I'm, maybe I'm tripping. Chat. You can, you can let me know if I'm tripping. But to not show up to OTAs, which you've always have, and there's a new regime, new culture, staff, new defensive scheme, new officer scheme, everything being implemented in. And you don't show up. I mean, I mean, the message has always been clear. He doesn't have to come out and say it. You're actually, you're asking and show. Okay, it's enough is enough. I might be wrong.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I, I, I, I, I, I kind of thought that, like, okay, a new, like a lot of times, like with New coach, with a new coach come, you know, they can have three minute camps. You get in, you want to, you know, show your face as a leader, you know, learn the defense. And plus a million dollars, I pick up a million dollars while I'm doing that. But I mean, it'd been tough for me because when I'm there, I'm there. I really, I really didn't like go home like, like, you know, off weeks and stuff like that. Like, you know, some guys, like, we get off and we wouldn't have to be back until Wednesday, and some guys would go wherever they go. I was never like that. So when I was there, endeavor, I was there. Once I left, I wasn't trying to be back until I absolutely had positively had to be back.

[King ISO]

Yeah, I ain't. I ain't do that. I ain't do that. Joe. We had. Our off season program was 13 weeks. It was Monday through Thursday, Friday, Friday through Sunday was off. Nine times out of 10 that Friday, Friday through Sunday, I'm going back to Miami. And I would always, I always do the morning work on a Thursday, and I get on a flight Thursday evening, fly to Miami, relax here, don't do anything. Probably do some training as well, relax Thursday, then back on the plane Sunday night, and then repeat. It was a 13, 13 week program. It was fun. I really enjoyed it because I'm. I'm a gym rat.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Joe.

[King ISO]

Hell, I can't stay out the gym. I can't stay out the gym now. And I don't play nothing. So you can imagine back then when I was playing, so I was excited to go to the offseason off season program and just, you know, see the fellas. Man, it was cool to see the fellas.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I, I remember my rookie early on, because Dan, that was a big thing for Dan. Yeah, you had to be there. I was like, man, I sure hope I can get good enough one day. I don't have to come to this. As soon as I got good enough, I had to come.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you one of our leaders. I'm leading from Atlanta. That's what I'm leaving for. I'm gonna leave for Atlanta. No, no, no, no, no, no. Y' all not pay. Y' all paying him to lead. He making the big bucks. Y' all ain't paying me to lead. I'll be in Atlanta. And besides. And then Mike just came to the realization, say, you know what? He's like, I remember in 96, I didn't come. I didn't come. I didn't come back. They didn't do no off season program. And he was like, we was out there at practice. He said, let me see what you're looking like. So I pulled my shirt up. He like, you ain't never got to worry about coming back.

[Joe Johnson]

Obviously you had the nuts in your stomach, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What? Joe? Shredded like a trump tax return.

[King ISO]

Hey, Joe. That's what I look like now, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, well, hey, man, that way. That boy. Wait, look like a 10 email. It's gone. Disappeared like that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But I, I, I'm like, I'm like Jodo Ocho. You know damn well if the bingo put a million dollars.

[King ISO]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

No matter how much you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you ain't letting that go.

[King ISO]

Hey, my mine was only 250 and I was so a million. Yeah. Oh.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, I'm there.

[King ISO]

I'm there. And you know. You know what's funny too, when it comes to my craft in general, you don't have to incentivize for me because I, I love what I do. I love working, I love training. I just, I, I love being in that environment. But just the fact that to be there. You mean you're gonna pay me this to be there? Yeah. And I already now already like to do it anyway. Well, hell, shoot.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, no. But see, the thing is with that. I did away with the centers in my contract after they screwed me out of that 100 grand. I ain't put no more incentive.

[Joe Johnson]

What you mean how they screw you out 100 grand? What happened?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

God, man, I supposed to get a hundred thousand for a thousand yards. Joe, I had 995 yards at the half. I had 116 yards. And they ain't throw the ball to you on six catches and ain't catch another pass to stole the second half.

[King ISO]

Hey, Unc, they did that on purpose.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I know they did. That's. And guess what? I ain't put another. Tell me you want to see it. I want nothing. Cause y', all, y' all gonna pay me what y' all supposed to pay me. And I'm supposed to lead the team and catch it. I'm supposed to lead the team in yards. I'm supposed to be all Pro. I'm supposedly the Pro Bowl. I don't need y' all to incentivize that. Cause y' all paying me enough. That's what I'm supposed to do. I don't need no extra.

[King ISO]

Hey, Joe, they play that game.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I know. Hey, I ain't gonna lie, boy. That football cut Though, that football.

[King ISO]

Hey, Joe, they play that game with a lot of people where you have incentives. You need a catches, you need certain yards. As a running back, they would play with you if you being on the field, a certain amount of snaps, all that stuff, they. They keep track of everything. They keep track of everything and they will not let you hit it depending on who you are. And they do it on purpose every time like that. That, like that little chunk of change compared to what they have is gonna make a big difference.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because you got to realize 100,000 was a lot of money to me because I was only making 325, right? 100,000. Hey, that's not a little chunk of chain.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. And you know, I had. Hey, I had three. Yeah, Pampers. Got your boy. That got your boy about two, three years of Pampers right there. Hey, daycare, man, you know, daycare was expensive back then. I don't know what daycare is now, but I know it's expensive.

[King ISO]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. I can only imagine.

[King ISO]

I mean, you. Hey, you gonna know what it's like soon.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And now Joe might. I don't know nothing.

[King ISO]

I thought we talked about this, fellas.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, we. No, no. You and Joe talking.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[King ISO]

Hey, hey, you know what? You know, I just thought about. Think about this. Think about how. How other ethnicities, other races, they plan having their kids at the same time so they could do everything together. Can you imagine all us, you know, with our babies pushing strollers at the park?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I can't imagine that. Nah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Pretty. Somebody gonna have to push me. The baby me. That's gonna be my big ass in the chair. What the hell you talking about, manha?

[King ISO]

Hey, it's a. It's a movie. It's a movie. It's a movie like that. I can't remember what movie it is. I think that would be dope, though. Like that would be.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's.

[King ISO]

That's a movie. That's a tv. Listen, that's a TV series in itself. You know, Nightcap, Joe, with the kids.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm already sitting in the third seat. I'm already sitting at the very back with the thing pulled down with my leg on top of it. I'm done, Ocho. I told you, I'm a practice. I'm gonna practice. I'm doing all I can, but I'm gonna. Coach, don't put me in. I don't know no plays.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Ocho, your boy over here. I ain't doing nothing but shooting blanks, man. I Cut the line over here? Yeah, over here, man.

[King ISO]

Oh, man, God ain't got angle.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm already playing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't got no doggy water.

[King ISO]

Come on. But now, come on, Joe. You mean you did that?

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, I told. I struck out. Oh, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I got three.

[Joe Johnson]

Three strikes out, baby.

[King ISO]

Yeah, but, Joe, you weren't supposed to cut the line because odd numbers is bad luck. Joe is in the Bible.

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't no bad luck. Your boy ain't doing numbers shooting blanks, man. That's all right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm like, oh, me and my lady, we just practicing. We. We just practice.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't got no. But some pond water in me. This ain't strong at all.

[King ISO]

Damn, man, I can't believe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Got no bubbles to it. This ain't no sparkling water here. You know that. Ophes. They say, what you want flat, Sparkling? Give me flat, because that's all I got in the flat.

[King ISO]

Hey, man, y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[King ISO]

And y' all done messed up. That was. That was. I. I just had. I. I envisioned us having a TV show as new fathers, you know, after 40. I mean, listen, Netflix was gonna pick that up.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, now, if you. I can reconnect it. I can reconnect the line now, but it's got to be worth it. Yeah, I mean.

[King ISO]

Oh, I'm talking to Netflix because they. They approached me about it. I said, listen, I'm gonna talk to the fellas and see what they want to do.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man,

[King ISO]

There we go, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

There we go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe, I ain't gonna lie to you. I wish. I wish I could tell you something, but I ain't got it.

[King ISO]

Even though I ain't gonna hold you, right? But because of who you are, because the value in which we possess, you know, they was talking. They were talking, you know, north of 400 million, huh? Boy, listen, I ain't telling you what I heard. I ain't telling what I heard. I'm telling you what I know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I would have to take this off Casey. Hey, that's not a bread.

[King ISO]

Hey, hey, hey, listen, I'm just telling. I'm just telling you what they told me. Now, it was a conversation in vague. You know, in. In I. I was vision, like I was giving him the play and the possibility of it happen. Happening. I'm like, man, that would be dope, because no one has ever had anything like that. Nobody at the same time. You know, it. It do wonder. It do nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what? You know what, guys? I'll be honest with you. You. If we. If I Was close to y' all age. If I was in my mid-40s, I said, you know what, guys? Let's do it. And I'm down to 60 years old.

[King ISO]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And by the time. Hey, by the time that thing set in, you know, I have to catch. I have to catch one when she just right about seven days afterwards. Catch her just right probably about four, five times a day for like three, four days, right?

[King ISO]

You good? You good. That's where they got them roast balls.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm 76 years old, going to a high school graduation.

[King ISO]

What's wrong with that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's about. They talking about little Sterling because I would, I would name him after my brother. Little Sterling. Your granddaddy out here, that's my daddy food.

[King ISO]

I don't know. I mean, them numbers, Them numbers sounded real good, which is why they do sound good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho.

[King ISO]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, mama. Changing two sets of diapers. His ain't mine. Hey, pick up some diapers for me or for him?

[King ISO]

Oh, man, that's funny, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, well, I know what you mean, boy.

[King ISO]

I don't know what that thing Joe said.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I reconnect the line,

[Joe Johnson]

Man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho out of the damn, man. Ocho, you got eight.

[King ISO]

I, I, I know, I know. I want twins. And I'm.

[Joe Johnson]

That'll put you right at a. Not only will you have a starting five, but you, you got a bench, too.

[King ISO]

Yeah, and my, My bench. My bench gonna be just like okc.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. I'm saying, how many, how many boys you got? Oo, damn. You only got two.

[King ISO]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[King ISO]

Yeah. My son. My youngest son here, he play receiver at Norland. He here, he here with me now.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You only got you. So you got. Hold on. You got six girls and two boys?

[King ISO]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you know, I have a number. You'll have twin girls.

[Joe Johnson]

Have eight.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And two.

[King ISO]

I'm at. Now I'm have, I'm have two. I'm doing FBI.

[Joe Johnson]

Make sure you have boys.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't no FBI. In vitro.

[King ISO]

I said FBI.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ivf. In vitro fertilization.

[King ISO]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No FBI. They investigate. You don't need to investigate nothing. Nah, hell no, man, please. And that. And you are a. You don't want that. Cause you already know, man. You don't know how much that costs, man. Let me say it cost. What, man, that's expensive.

[King ISO]

No, it ain't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

IVF.

[King ISO]

Come on. IVF probably, what, maybe 2000?

[Joe Johnson]

Hell no. It's about 20, 25K.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

20, 25, 30,000.

[King ISO]

Man, don't let the people rip you off. Come on, now. That's a rip off. Now you have to go to multiple places and do, and do the price comparisons. Like

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

they mess around and put a chicken egg in your girl. You'll be a gay gave birth to a two pound hen. You better go, he better go to a regular. Hey, you be like the people that be suing. All of a sudden it's a white couple and they got a black baby or this black company, they got an Asian man. You better, you better go to somewhere you talking about.

[Joe Johnson]

You trying to say somebody backyard. Talking about, man, please.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, they got, hey, they got a chicken baster like they put gravy on the turkey.

[King ISO]

Hey, that's, that's funny.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ah, hell no. I'm good.

[Joe Johnson]

Man.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

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[King ISO]

I got you the Jacksonville

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Jaguars expect Travis Hunter to be a full time corner and a part time receiver Rappapore As Hunter is expected to be a full participant in training camp as he continue to recover from an LCL tear that ended his 2025 rookie season, Hunter snap count weighed heavily favor of the offensive side of the ball last year. Overall in 2025 Hunter saw 324 snaps on offense, 162 snaps on defense. So hold on Joe, what in Rapaport is reporting? Yes is what you and I have been saying. Yes, yes. Go ahead, go ahead take it. Y' all want y' all take the conversation. One of them guys to say I told you so.

[King ISO]

I mean Joe and and and obviously Travis Travis his dream was going to the NFL. He said it to multiple teams is I'm hoping to do exactly what I did at Colorado. I want to be able to play both sides of the ball and be able to impact the game on both sides of the ball. Unk said and I said as well and I agree with him that would be too much because of the level of talent and elite players at same position. Think about it. Travis Hunter playing db then having to cover Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, you know and and some of the some of the elite wide receivers in the league and then having to turn right record back around on and go play on goddamn offense and play receiver and then still be a value and being very very tactical and technical when it comes to playing a position. So at that point you could only be just good on both ends when you could just we could focus on one one position and be great at defensive back which you're really good at and then have packages to play on offense which you can also be impactful where they have special plays designed just for you to get the ball because with the ball in your hands well you are special. Special but a full time it's perfect.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It says in the wake of Hunter's injury last season, fans were calling the Jags to choose just one position for Travis though we could see Hunter get some snaps at wide receiver in 2026. It looks like he'll be dedicated A dedicated cornerback for the foreseeable future. That's what he said. It's easier, Ocho. I mean, in order for this. And I didn't think, like, he's like, oh, I can do. I said 130 snaps again.

[King ISO]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I said it's easier for him to play corner and build a couple of packages in Ocho. We got a couple of sets like they did for China Bailey, like they did for some of the other guys, like they did for Time. There have been other guys that played Charles Woodson. Yeah. Woody. Roy Green actually started off as a corner, got some plays at wide receiver, and then he was so good, they ended up moving to wide receiver and took him out of the corner. But go ahead, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I agree with Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think, you know, him being a

[Joe Johnson]

db and then kind of similar. Similar what, Uncle? Just saying, like, how the Cowboys use Dion. You know, he was a. He was a db, but they had a package enough for Dion for where, you know, you know, he.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He would.

[Joe Johnson]

He would be on offense from time to time. And I think that's the same way the Jaguars probably gonna use Travis Hunter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like you say, 130 something snaps a game. Hell, that's basically full time on both. On both sides. Right? And it takes a toll on you, bro, because you never get a rest.

[King ISO]

Nah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nope, nope, nope.

[King ISO]

I. I like it. I like it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like it, too.

[King ISO]

Jags are doing this so he can focus on one thing, Focus on being the best defensive back he can be, depending on where they move them. Listen, and obviously, as great as you are, I hope you become not just a db, but a traveling db, a DB that follows the one man do that you want. You just want somebody hitting that payday up, hitting another payday, follow the number one on every team, and then have small packages on offense and go impact the game that way.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, look, I understand. I understand what you guys are saying. Hell, y' all played the game at a very high level, but I love seeing Travis on offense, too. Uncle Ocho boy got some hands. He electric when he catch the ball. You know what I mean? I feel like he's always a big play away, you feel what I'm saying? So I, I, I. I definitely hope they still keep him on offense, you know, from time to time. It ain't got to be, you know, every down, but for the most part, I want to see that electric side of them, too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, of course. And I think the thing is, look, you got Parker Washington, you got Brian Thomas Jr. That, you know, had an off season. So you can plug him in defensively is where you're like, okay, we need a little help here. Guys that can get out the court, get up to the quarterback. We could really use Trav. Like you said, Ocho travel take care of it, because you got Nico College, and you got guys in that division vision that you're gonna have to. You're gonna have to deal with. Yeah. Yeah. So

[King ISO]

I like it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like it. All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Hopefully we still had the memo. Y' all, stop with the corny jokes. Before we get to our super chat, we do got five video voicemail from our discord. Let's hear video number one. What's going on, y' all boys?

[Joe Johnson]

Man, I just want to say I relate to you, like, on a spiritual level.

[King ISO]

For real.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause my folks. I grew up on my grandparents, you know, I'm saying. And they from Washington, Georgia, so it's down there. Like, we got the same grandparents. Like, when you say what you say? Like, I feel that in my soul. You know what I'm saying? And then Ocho. But I ain't gonna lie. Like, I with you heavy. Like we rock with you heavy. But you know, Joe walk on water in Atlanta.

[King ISO]

So you put your hands on that

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

boy, you cannot come back to Atlanta no more.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just playing. But, man, I love y'. All. Show me, and I watch every day. You know what I'm saying?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I wait.

[Joe Johnson]

Keep it going, man. Love y' all, boys. Oh, yo, I told you, don't play around me, Ocho.

[King ISO]

Hey, you. You heard him say, I'm just playing it then, too, because. Because it was. It won't have to be two people on the hit list. He was gonna get this working, you know? But hey, hey, listen. Y' all gonna be a problem. Y' all gonna be.

[Joe Johnson]

I appreciate buddy for even speaking up, but he ain't got to worry about nothing. You hear me? Yeah, don't even worry about nothing, playboy. I got him.

[King ISO]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, man. Listen, man. Joe, I'm. I'm about this. I'm about this, boy. You hear me? Hey, I'm. I'm telling you. I'mma tell you. I'mma tell you what you need to do. Hey, I'mma tell you now, put a condom in your ear and with your herd, because you gonna get your ass.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like that.

[Joe Johnson]

I like Joe. Hey, y' all don't steal my stuff.

[King ISO]

Chat. Don't Chat.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't steal my stuff.

[Joe Johnson]

I might have.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let's take a look at what he had to say.

[King ISO]

Oh, what up, though? Uncle ISO. Ocho, it's your boy Jamar, the singer from Detroit. Hey, look, if y' all ever do Shishay Media hall of Fame, you cannot tell me these are not gonna be first ballot inductees.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right?

[King ISO]

Cat Williams, Coach Brown, Michelle and King ISO. Those are first ballot hall of Fame, Shae Shay media inductees. Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Appreciate that, bro. Appreciate that. Hey, man, what. What can I say, man? Hey, hey, what can I say? You know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who gazing.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, you know, I mean,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

here's video number three. Let's take a listen. Ocho, ISO, Joe, this your boy Trey or in the chat on Beer Gang 268. Question for y' all tonight. Okay. With the NFL draft coming up, do y' all think we'll see any more of those gigantic trades like the, like the Herschel Walker trade from the 90s? I know that wasn't around the draft, but you know, that massive kind of trade. Or the Ricky Williams trade, which was for the draft where they got rid of all their first round draft picks to pick him up. Do y' all think we'll ever see another, Another one of those big trades again in the NFL? Appreciate y'.

[King ISO]

All. Yes, absolutely.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, we got this. Remember Trey. Trey Lance was a big trade.

[King ISO]

Yep. I think, I think in comparison, in comparison to that Ricky, Ricky Williams trade where they gave up all those first round picks.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[King ISO]

I say, I say Miles Garrett is on the move.

[Joe Johnson]

I say.

[King ISO]

Now, I don't know if. I don't. I don't know if it probably won't happen draft day, But I think A.J. brown, A.J. brown will also be on the move after the June 1st. Is it June after, after June 1st. June. He would be, he would be on the move as well. Any other players? There aren't any other players right now. Where, where. It's where the roads are rocky. That, that, that. It would make extreme headlines. Oh, my God. So and so just got traded. I mean, everyone else is probably set in stone. Maybe Dexter Jackson. Deck the Jackson who says he, you know, he wants to be traded.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Dexter Lawrence. You mean Dexter Lawrence.

[King ISO]

I'm sorry. I'm thinking about DJ that played with me in Cincinnati and played for the Bucks. I'm tripping. Different.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I look, I think the thing is, D D Lawrence, he don't have any more guaranteed money.

[King ISO]

Oh. He trying to get a new contract.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He want more games.

[King ISO]

Maybe he trying to Pull. He trying to pull the Miles down. Do they value him the same way they, they value Miles Garrett, though, where that would work?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oo. It's hard when it's sack total dip the way it did. I just can't.

[King ISO]

But I can't. He did tackle.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I know, I know. Look at his numbers, Ocho. And you got Brian Burns, you got Thibodeau, you got Carter.

[King ISO]

They both had double digits.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Brian burns had like 17, 18 sacks. Yeah, I, I, I, I cannot. And I think, I think Dexter is a phenomenal D tackle, but I cannot reward him coming off the season that he just had.

[King ISO]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I can't, I just can't.

[King ISO]

I, I would think, I would think, I would think in a sense, based on how well he's played, despite his dip in sack total, he still is.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I paid him, I compensated him. I made him the highest paid defensive tackle. I mean, close to the highest paid one time, right? I paid him. I paid him, Ocho. Now I'm paying on books based on what I think you'll do. I can't pay you on what you've done because I've already paid you on that.

[King ISO]

Thank you for that. That's a good one. One.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's a good one.

[King ISO]

Hey, you, you talking like a GM now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, look, I think we got, I got, look and, and, and, and got Burns. I don't know what they gonna do with Thibod, though. I don't, I don't know what they're gonna. I mean, Abdul Carter, he's the third pick of the draft. He ain't going nowhere. I think Thibodeau was like the fifth or the sixth pick in the draft. You got Brian Burns, who's been unbelievable. Ocho.

[King ISO]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That man had a half a sack last year. So what do I pay for a half a sack, Joe? Ojo, hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all he had for the year?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[King ISO]

Hey, Joe. He had D tackle.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe.

[King ISO]

He taking on a double team every game. Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And the year before he took on double teams, had eight and a half.

[King ISO]

Yeah. Hey, hey, Joe. It's hard for sex to, you know, hard for D tackle to come by. Sex, I mean, that's why Aaron Donald was Aaron Donald. It's hard to do what Aaron Donald did right, dealing with that double team every. You, you got two 300 pound people on you every play.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho. Ocho. He went from nine sacks to a half.

[King ISO]

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I can't, I can't. Boy, that's A. That's a horrible precedent to sit, right? Because you know what's gonna happen? Guys are going to have terrible years and they don't have any more guaranteed money. They're gonna say, but you did it for Dexter.

[King ISO]

I like.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like.

[King ISO]

Where you going?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I can't. I can't.

[King ISO]

I got you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's gonna have to play. He's gonna have to play for this one.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, he. He. He went from seven and a half to four and a half to nine to a half a sack.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I can't, Ocho. I'm sorry. Here's the fourth one. Let's take a listen.

[Discord Caller]

What's up, Unc? Ocho and Steel. Yeah, King ISO, man, we don't even care about you losing, man. You still king, bro. All that stuff you. All that work you done put in on them boys, man, we ain't forget bowling, golf, Frisbee game. We ain't forgetting that, man. You really, what, three and one against them boys, Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Discord Caller]

They ain't messing with you, right? But man, you a cancer. I'm a cancer. You know, I'm gonna order some of that Laportier, man, I don't know where to get the cigars from, Ocho from, man, so I'm gonna have to beat him up to find out about it, I guess. Man, he'll never drop them in the chat or nothing. I'll never hear him say nothing about the cigars no more, man. What's up? I gotta put these paws on you or what, dogs? Hey, I'm 5 11, 185, Ocho boy, I'll do it to you.

[King ISO]

5 11.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, and you catch a strays from everybody, bro.

[King ISO]

Now, they made no strays. Them just from people that want their ass whooped. And actually, you know what he want? He want me to put these paws on him so he could take me to court. He think he's slick. A young bull. Sign this waiver so we can get this thing on. So you can see what these hands. See what hella hands, you know, talking back.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Here's our last one, our fifth and final one. Let's take a listen. What up? What up, ISO? What up, Ocho? Man, I'm just 24 year old from Mississippi. Just look what y' all got going on. I just want to ask a question.

[Joe Johnson]

I really.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It really be on my mind a lot. And I'm a 24 year old. Like I said, I got two little boys and it get hard out here a lot like you get real hard out here, I ain't gonna lie. Working a job you really don't want to do, but you just trying to make ends meet. What's some advice you would give to me if you could. If you could give me advice, what advice would you give to me? Thank you, man. Work the job that you have until you can get to find a job that you want. Because like you said, you have other responsibilities other than yourself. Maybe if it was just you, you could like, you know what? I'm gonna kind of. I'm gonna kind of look for me a job that I really want to do. But in the meantime, you don't have that luxury because you have two other miles to feed. And I don't know if you have a girlfriend or wife or significant other. I don't know. But I just know that you said you have two little boys and them two little boys are depending on you. So until you find something that you want to do or you like to do, you've got to stay where you are and stay and stay grinding. And that happens a lot. I mean, that's the whole thing of. Of eventually finding something that you love. Because there's nothing worse than being on a job that you don't want to go to. It's nothing worse than being in a relationship that you don't want to be in. Ocho, remember? I mean, the loneliest place is to be somewhere you're not wanted. But bro, don't give up the faith. Don't stop. Because like you said, you got two little boys that are depending on you, that are counting on you. So until you find something that you like and that you really love to do, do, just stay where you are. Just keep grinding. Hey, things are going to change. But hey, stick, pray about it and start putting in applications. I don't know what you want to do. I wish you would have said that, you know, I'm doing X, but I really want to do Y. I wish you could have given us a little bit more information. Yeah, bro, you got to hang in there, man.

[Joe Johnson]

You gotta stay locked in. Big fellas. Yes.

[King ISO]

Yeah. Especially for the little one. Boy, them little ones, Hell yeah. Whatever way some, sometimes, whatever you got to do for them to make sure they straight, you know? Like I'm saying, just lock in on X until Y comes about and comes into fruition. Then you'll be able to do what you like.

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't nothing like, hey, it ain't nothing like putting a smile on them kids face, bro.

[King ISO]

Yeah, and it don't take much.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't bro.

[King ISO]

They don't take much. Because they don't. They don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, look at them.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We went to. We went.

[Joe Johnson]

I took my kids to Andretti's today because they on spring break. Hey, I'm hell on them. Go Karts now. I don't play no game now. I'm hell on them. Go Cars. But, you know, my kids love Andreas, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We.

[Joe Johnson]

We go to Andretti's.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Johnson]

My son now, he four years old, he play everything in there. Boy, he. It'd be hell to get him up out of there. Yeah, yeah, but they love it, though. They love it, man. As long as they smiling, I'm good, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Jujitsu 83. Pine Bluff. Here, can 100. Remember ISO winning at all. Pine Bluff, Arkansas. 42 year old man. Love y'.

[King ISO]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Just wanted to say, the way you interact with us fans make us feel included. That's it. Three million this time next year. And I'll be here.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man. Hey, look, I told y', all, man, I ain't gonna lie to you. Because it sounds fly to you, Ocho, I don't do that. That ain't what I do. Where I'm from, we don't get down like that. You feel me?

[King ISO]

Hey, Joe, that was. Hey, Joe, that was one person. That. That ain't that. Like Jay Z said, that ain't enough. You need more people now.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, what you want from me now? The man, them vouchs, you.

[King ISO]

You need a one person vouch.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, then how many people you want to vouch? I can make sure we get many in here now.

[King ISO]

That ain't enough. I need to see footage. Joke. I need to see footage.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Aerodynamics513. Hey, Unc. I interviewed Vince Buck from Central State about his Senior bowl experience as an HBCU player. What was yours like and how did it shape you? I did not go. I actually. Me and VB I think. I know. I. I know. I went to the East West Shrine game with BB Because VB and I came out the same year. Vince book. I think. I'm trying to think, where did Vince go? Did he go to New Orleans? I know D.C. because me and Darian Gordon, Darian Gorn came out also, and he was from Jackson State. He was a coach. W.C. gordon. One of W.C. gordon's boys. I'm trying to think. But going to those bowl games and seeing those guys. I went to the Blue Gray game, which was in. On Christmas in Montgomery. In Montgomery, Alabama. And then I went to the East West Shrine. That was in Palo Alto. But to, to go up against those guys at the University of Miami and Notre Dame and all those guys, I, I mean, I knew I belonged, but, you know, to be there and to be on the field and be able to compete against those guys, I was like, yeah, man, it was, it was, it was unbelievable experience. And it's, it's great for an HBCU guy to be there. And people think enough, like, you know what, let's bring it up here and see, I know what he did against lower level competition, but let's see when we add competition if he's still willing to compete. Oh, I am. Let's see if they still willing to compete when they see they ain't never seen no 6, 2, 225 pound receipt. Yeah, built like a, built like an African God. They ain't seen nothing like this here. The goat 20, 22 Ocho King ISO. That Gucci Mane and pooh shy situation going to have, going to have ever been a situation where you signed a bad contract or felt someone slided you and how did you react? You sign a contract? Yeah, yeah. That's why they got, that's why they don't do in the beginning. Yo, when they say word is bond, that's what they meant. A contract was a meeting of the minds. You agree? Okay, Joe, I tell you what. For a pig and a bushel of corn, I'm gonna trade you goat's milk, a cow's milk, and some chicken. Okay, we had a contract. Okay, good. But that's, Guess what? Somebody got what they intended to get first, and the other guy reneged. And so they say, you know what? Now, verbal contracts can still be binding, but once you put your name on the dotted line, it's rap.

[King ISO]

That's what it is.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Kind of hard. It's kind of, it's kind of hard to get up out of it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. Like Gucci say what? Damn,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

that's the truth, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What? But I ain't going to jail.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, what, hey, not if I just got out. If I just got done doing four, five years,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't going back. I like freedom too much. I like money. I like every, everything. I, I, I don't, I'm, I'm trying to think. Unless they got a bed, unless you got 700, 800 million buried up under the jail somewhere, I ain't really trying to go. They ain't got no bad treasure, I heard. No buried treasure in no penalty entry, no jail or nothing. Ain't no Barry treasure. Ocho I ain't trying to go there

[Joe Johnson]

and see that, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Big Ant. What's going on, Nightcap, fam? In your guys's opinion, who's a better power dunker? Dominique or Sean Kemp? That's a good one. That is a very good one,

[Joe Johnson]

man. I think power dang on live. Hey, look, Kim. Kim, a bad boy. He. He got some power, but Nick has some power, but neat. Oh, my God.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. I'm telling you, got both of them. I mean, Dominique was double pumping back.

[Joe Johnson]

Was on people, man. Was windmilling. Two hand, I'm talking about. Come on, man. But Sean Kemp got some nasty ones, too, though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you remember he dunked on Kid. Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

he cuffed that thing. He can't do that thing like that. Yeah, that's how I come through on Ocho. Boom.

[King ISO]

Man, I flip you, you think about dunking on me, man.

[Joe Johnson]

What you thought this was, boy?

[King ISO]

Hey, Joe, I flip you, man. By the time you jump, you're gonna be on your head, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn.

[King ISO]

Hey, Joe. I'm not one of them, Joe. I'm not one of your little NBA friends, Joe. Like, I play dirty, boy. You hear me, jailhouse? Hey, Ultra, your best bet is to have a referee, too.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't need that. Oh, I'm built for the now, you know? I mean, I'm built for that.

[King ISO]

Okay. Okay. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, we missed one. We missed one. I missed one. I got to go back. Dr. Frank L. Bellam is like, how are you guys doing? Are you all taking care of yourselves? Are you getting enough rest? No,

[King ISO]

I'm good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I did. I ain't gonna lie. Oh, I slept till. I slept till like, 11 o' clock today when.

[King ISO]

Oh, oh, so you in Miami and chose to get beauty rest instead of hit your boy? Hey, I'm in town. Let's go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I've done two podcasts. This is my. This will be my fifth podcast in two days.

[Joe Johnson]

That man working. Oh, man, he get to the.

[King ISO]

What does that have to do with seeing me, Holling, at your boy? I'm.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

See, I'm looking at you right now. I'm looking at your black ass right now.

[King ISO]

I could have took you to.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm glad you ain't hit his ass. Damn it, man. Anybody sting that? I'm glad.

[King ISO]

All right, all right.

[Joe Johnson]

Burn. Rub on his ass when you get up out of here, too.

[King ISO]

Yeah, okay. Hey. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, you. Oh, you almost on my last nerve, man. I'm telling you now, like. Like my grandma used to say now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right, man. Yeah, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I'd be bad.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I've been. Oh, man. I'd be trying to get some. I'd be trying to get some sleep on the plane.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, you don't have no problem sleeping on the plane.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I get it when I.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't have no problem sleeping on the plane, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I do have. I could probably get like 10, 15 minutes. I can't sleep like Jordan before they even take off. Hey, hey, you see Jordan back there?

[Joe Johnson]

Like, hey, Jordan, that's me. I'm telling you. Hey, look, the only thing wake me up is when we hit the ground too hard.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Boom.

[Joe Johnson]

What's going. Yeah, I'd be knocked out going to the airport.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn. So much for the conversation. We were supposed to have that joke. Hey, hey, that joke got narcolepsy. That joker sleep anywhere.

[King ISO]

Yeah, I sleep. I sleep good on the plane, too. But no matter how short.

[Joe Johnson]

How long. No matter how short or how long

[King ISO]

the flight. I said no matter how short. Come on, Joe. I said flight.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Daniel Wells, 4970. Big, big three. Question. How do you guys choose your game day accessory? Do you guys like to color coordinate gloves, cleat shoes, and elbow bands with the jersey?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hell no. I mean, they already picked that out. I mean, you got a home jersey. You. We didn't have all those jerseys that they got now, Ocho, we had a home jersey. We had a road jersey.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's it. Home pants. Not me. I ain't gonna lie to y'. All. I like that. When I get my ankles tape up and we wearing our red uniforms for the house, I want that red tape down, you know what I mean? They're coming up out my socks. Yeah, I want. I want that red tape down there. And we playing on the road. I want my. I want my. I want whatever. I'm getting my ankles taped. Whatever color jersey we wear. That's why. That's what color I want on my. On my. On my tape. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn, Joe, you might be superstitious.

[Joe Johnson]

Maybe I just like to kind of color coordinate a little bit, you know? I mean.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, on the road we were in white, and at home we were in orange or blue. Later. Later we got, for the most part, white and orange or white and white or white on white. Don't.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't had nothing.

[King ISO]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't had no. I know you had some accessories. You.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They were catching else. Regardless.

[King ISO]

Hey, I. Hey, orange shoes, orange 10 strap, orange gloves, black shoes, black chin strap, black gloves. I. I just paid the fine, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

How much was the fine?

[King ISO]

I mean, it Went up every time. First offense, 5,000. Second offense, 15. No 10. Second offense, third offense, probably went to 25. I didn't care, Joe. I just picked. I just picked and choose when to do it. I wore gold cleats depending on who we were playing.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know what? When you look at these guys now, especially in the NBA, they ain't even gotta.

[King ISO]

They ain't.

[Joe Johnson]

They shoes ain't even gotta match their jerseys no more. Yeah. I mean, you look at Boston here, they got green uniforms. It might be somebody there with some orange shoes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, red. Look at LeBron. LeBron had shoes yet to match his uniform. Hey, LeBron coming out with a 23. Be like, look, these gonna be available. Go buy these. You tell the uniform, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Thanks.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Fact, hoodie, Gym rat. Ocho basically said McDonald's is a preventative medicine.

[King ISO]

I mean. I mean, the proof is in the pudding. It's a scientific fact.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Scientific fire. Britney Crow. Do you guys believe the top three wideouts in the draft are Tate, Lemon, Tyson, or the three sleepers out there like Ted Hurst, Chris Bale, and Bryce Lance? I think Lemon. Was it Lemon or Tyson that won the. The Blitnikov Award? I think he's the guy from usc.

[King ISO]

He. Nice.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like Tate. It's. Look, those wires. It's hard to. It's hard to pick against Ohio State wide receivers because you've seen the production. You see Olave, you see Garrett Wilson, you see ibuka, you see JSN Marvin Harrison Jr. Off to a little slow start. But Ocho, maybe he lose a little weight, get some. Get some flexibility back and become that. So we've seen the success that the Ohio State receivers have had over the last several years. So it's hard. It's really, really hard for me to say, like, you know what? I'm gonna take a. I'm gonna take somebody over one of those guys because they are. Big day. They're coached up extremely well.

[Joe Johnson]

They compete.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They're great. Hey, they got big crate catch radiuses. They're good run after the catch. And based on what I've seen, it's hard. It'll be hard for me to pick against Tate, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, y' all think. Y' all think old boy Jeremiah Smith gonna be number one pick next year, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Number one.

[Joe Johnson]

No question about it.

[King ISO]

Number one, if he have another season like he's had the previous. Yeah, two years. Number one, there's. There's not. I ain't seen a quarterback.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What if Arch Manning plays next season? Like he played the last four games. That's a good one because we. We were talking about the last four games that he showed out the bowl.

[King ISO]

He did. He did.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And he's a quarterback. I mean. I mean, I'm starting to think the last. What? Last wide receiver went number one overall was what, Keisha?

[Joe Johnson]

It's been that long?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't think, you know. Yeah. Keyshawn, 96. And before that was Irving Fryer in 84.

[King ISO]

Yeah, Joe, he's special because, you know,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

remember, Calvin was number two behind Jamarcus.

[King ISO]

Marcus Russell. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So I don't. I don't think. And I could be wrong, but I think the last wide receiver to go number one overall was Keyshawn in 96. And that was the year they had a bunch of receivers go to. Was in that draft. Marvin Harrison was in that draft. Moose and Muhammad was in that draft. I think Eric Moes was also in that draft, if I'm not mistaken now.

[King ISO]

Hey, Eric Mo big than a joker, boy. Yeah, him and Pillage Price.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Kevin Boat Knight. We. Who should we take at 27th? I'm stressing over here. The 49ers might need a wide receiver. I don't know if one gonna be available.

[King ISO]

Another one?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who they got?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[King ISO]

Ricky Purcell. Mike. Mike Evans.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Mike Evans. Okay, Pierce.

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All.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

John Jennings hadn't. Hadn't signed with anyone.

[King ISO]

He's not back yet.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

IUK is gone. The other guy, what was the guy? He ended up going to Arizona. We had him on the show. I forget his name. He was in New England, then he was in San Fran. Goes to New England, then comes back to

[King ISO]

Kendrick Bourne.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Kendrick Bourne? Yes. What you think? What you think they need D line dbs? Oh, they just got to stay healthy.

[King ISO]

That. That. That's it. They.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean.

[King ISO]

I mean, they don't really have a. A weakness. I say maybe a db. A solid db.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

TS car wash detail service. I say Denver. Coming out of the west, I don't curse around my parents. My elders. Tell me about Terrell Davis, man. You would like that, bro. I just love the way he came in and just worked. He started like number six on the jump chart, and every day in practice, he just got better and better and getting better. Now, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I knew he was gonna be that, because I didn't. I just knew he worked hard. And.

[King ISO]

And.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And like I said, he getting. He getting practice, and, hey, he make it happen and. But it was that play in. In Japan on the kickoff team that he came in like, man, who is. Oh, boy. I said, man, that's that running back td I say they gonna move his ass to db. Talking about td Bro. They put him in and he ain't look back or he was special. I just. Obviously, he made the hall of Fame, but there wasn't a better big game running back than you. He would like that. He was like that every. I'm talking about any big game that we had. He was showing up. He was gonna do his thing. Dark born Ocho ISO, what are your thoughts on Arkansas assistant Chuck Martin joining Coach Malone with the Tar Heels?

[Joe Johnson]

I love Martin and what he's helped Coach Cal, you know, do up there in Fayetteville, up in Northwest Arkansas. I hate to see him leave, man. Obviously, they probably. They probably dropped him off with a big bag.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

For him to dip like that, but, you know, good luck to him. But we gotta. We got a young class coming in this year, fellas. Y' all thought Darius a cuff was nice. Now, I ain't gonna say they gonna win SEC Player of the year and freshman year and all that, but we gotta. We got a class coming in, bro. That's gonna be like that. It's gonna be like that. Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Tito underscore sb. Unc Ocho still King ISO. You guys watching the Masters all weekend? Was hoping Bryson DeChambeau could win it, but doesn't look good. I think Rory is tied for the league. Roy won it last year. I don't know. I. I used to see a stat. No wonder this led opening day has gone on to win the Masters. Normally, the guys, you know, starts off slow, is in striking distance, and picks it up over the next three days. But I really look. I like golf. I mean, they better not let Scotty Scheffler close. All he do is win.

[Joe Johnson]

Win.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, I don't.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I. I like golf. I don't watch it as much as I once did. Like when Tiger was playing, I watched. You know, I find myself sitting down because I want to see what Tigers do, especially the majors, and see him with that. That red and those black pants, making that charge. But on Sunday, I just want to go. What? I just want to go and. And get no ash. Ain't nobody eating no pimento cheese, but they still got the prices like they had in the original. So a sandwich would cost you like a dollar. Sodas, like 50 cent stuff.

[Joe Johnson]

You ever went to the Masters? Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I have not. I had an opportunity to go, but, man. Yeah, it's too much walking now. I can't walk now. I am. I'm stuck. I'm stuck like Chuck, man. They said, oh, over those, over those. I think it's what, four or five days? They do $70 million in merchandise. Everybody want those hats, those T shirts, those coffee, those. Those cups. 70 million in five days.

[King ISO]

I can see that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Jonathan B. Good. Any chance bring Molecule or Jenny tab on Nightcap? What do you want him to do? You just want to have a conversation.

[Joe Johnson]

No,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Anderson, Ocho. Nothing wrong with eating groceries. Been doing it since I was in. Since I was 18. I'm 26.

[King ISO]

There we go. There we go. Hey, hey, hey. That. That's what. That's the saying and say, get behind it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Now. I know we talked about, you know, we know Ocho like to eat groceries and all that, but both of y' all like, y' all groceries ate. So I don't, you know, I don't know what's worse. Yeah, you get lumped into it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, all. I said, they. Hey, they call your boy cars Call of duty. Oh, yo, I'll be crawling. I'll be crawling. I'm just saying, that's all.

[King ISO]

Hey, Joe. Hey, you got to live a little.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm living, baby.

[King ISO]

I know, I know. Hey, no, Joe, you know. You know, Joe, you living inside your box. You need to get outside the box, okay? So the things in life that you haven't done and you haven't experienced, and I. I want. I want that for you. I want that. I'm sure your lady watching the show is.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Tell her, listen, don't you know. No, don't you know?

[Joe Johnson]

When my lady got up, man, that was topic of discussion. She said she. So many of her friends had done sent her. She say, what's wrong with AKA Ocho? She's like. I said, I don't know, baby.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We. We good.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, y' all in the same boat. Yeah. Yeah, that was topic. Think about this. She up at 7:30 in the morning talking to me about this. I'm like, baby, come on now. Yeah. Hey, yeah, we good. We good over here,

[King ISO]

Joe. It's on a mind, Joe. Just go ahead and, man, just let it happen, man. Just, you know, so you can come back and tell us about.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, they need kids starting off young with this stuff, man.

[King ISO]

Hey, Unc is on tv. Everywhere, man. It's on tv.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But now, come on. I mean. I mean, I. I just want to know who. I want to know who was the first guy. Like, man, that's. Guess what I did last night. Old lady.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

hey, whatever.

[Joe Johnson]

Whoever it was, I guarantee he was under the influence, boy. All right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got to be on the influence. I don't.

[King ISO]

Joe. I don't drink.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, you got to be doing something, boy.

[King ISO]

But he.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He wanted to get his stripes, you know? He a tongue fool.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[King ISO]

Nah, he got to do it. Hey, Joe, I'm just. Hey, sometimes, you know, you like to set the standard, man. That's all.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But here's that. But see, but like you said, he said, how you think I get them 12?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, okay.

[King ISO]

Hey, hey, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

I see what's going on. Okay.

[King ISO]

Hey, no, I ain't got nothing to do, you know, Joe, I ain't spending no money.

[Joe Johnson]

I see you ain't got too. Hell if you. If you eating grocery.

[King ISO]

That just happened. Hey, Joe. That's just half the story, Joe. Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Put that baby. Put that baby.

[King ISO]

They say, you know, they. They. Hey, they here for. They're here for a good time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hello.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[King ISO]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, so, man, you did. You gotta stop. Ocho got to be chat. Y' all tell Ocho he wrong, I'm wrong. Hey, y' all put them those emojis in there with the throwing up with.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hell no. Okay, okay. Y' all gotta chill, bro. Y' all gotta chill.

[King ISO]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. It's all about doing that, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I be chilling. Joe, I ain't like that. I ain't on that type. Did you see.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, did you see that man stand up the other night and spread his cheeks talking about some. You ain't see.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Did you see that? Yeah.

[King ISO]

Hey, Joe, you got. Joe, you gotta lean over the bed. Joe, don't be scared, man. Lean over the bed. Come on and tell her dude to hit. Do the donkey punch. Tell her punch you in the back.

[Joe Johnson]

What you think, man?

[King ISO]

Yeah, yeah, Joe, I'm telling you, Joe, y' all got. Y' all got the age.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe.

[King ISO]

Hey, I'm seeing some video.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe, I'm about to be 58. Oh, Joe, I just.

[Joe Johnson]

I. I. I just.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm just trying to. I'm just trying to. Just trying to make it.

[King ISO]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, you want me to send you some video for visual.

[Joe Johnson]

That's another episode of Nightcap. We thank you guys for tuning. Let's cue his ass up out of here.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Would you ever entertain a Nightcap roast? If so, name three comedians a piece, and y' all would have. Would have to, like, have to have in on it. You down for a roast, Ocho?

[King ISO]

Hell, yeah, boy. Hey, hey, I'm Kevin. I mean, we all get roasted. I'm an easy target, though. I'm so easy to roast.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, I'm the easiest target right now.

[King ISO]

Nah, no, no, you ain't. No, you ain't. Because I. I say stuff that is roastable and don't care, so I'm. I'm an easier target than you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, but I had some. I had some. Some incidences off the.

[King ISO]

Yeah, but that's. Nah, that ain't. No, no, My roasting would be way worse than yours.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, I sure hope so. Hey, Hey.

[King ISO]

I wear the same pants every single day. Don't take them off. Hey, Joe, they didn't kill my cheetah pants.

[Joe Johnson]

No, you didn't. Killed your damn cheetah pants.

[Discord Caller]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe, this was for you. It says, hey, Ocho, need to teach ISO to eat the stuff. Stuffed crust pizza.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. Come on, bro. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Thank you for joining us for another episode of Black Cap. Y' all know who I am. Damn. Come on, man. But y' all doing too much, man. Man, y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Y' all come on now, man. Don't be falling up with Ocho foolishness.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, man. Hey. But the one thing I do know. I know he ain't the only one out here doing it, though. He ain't the only one. He definitely ain't the only one.

[King ISO]

All right, now. Yeah, y' all just not. Y' all haven't matured yet, that's all.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm fully mature. Yeah.

[King ISO]

Nah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Lord have mercy. I. I mean, if this was going on when I was. When I was younger, Joe, if this was. If this what was taken when we. Joe, I don't know what we'll show, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on. Hey, hey, look, when I was young, I mean, like, when I was a little youngster in my teenage years, I never heard of this. I never heard of cats doing that. No.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And if a guy did it, the girl would get mad. And once. Once the girl got mad, and that's why you ate my.

[Joe Johnson]

Such as.

[King ISO]

Yeah, that insult don't work no more.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It worked back then.

[King ISO]

Yeah, that's like. Like, you know, you call a girl promiscuous, you call her H O E. That don't work no more. You know, they proud. They proud of that stuff now. So there's really nothing. There's really no way to insult, man. You know, us people with free spirits or.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You keep your free spirit now. Yeah, I'm like. I'm with. I'm. Me and Joe. Joe, we align. We align on this. When you owe your own. Ocho.

[King ISO]

Oh, oh, now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, that friend. Ocho that friend that's gonna always. That would take one foot.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So you got to keep a guy like Ocho with you all the time because, you know. Because you know, girls, everybody ain't gonna be. Ain't gonna be the 10:12. They gonna be some tools and fusing, you know what I'm saying? So whatever you come, okay, they ain't gonna want to split. They've been talking. We gotta stick together.

[King ISO]

You see how you lying, Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's how, my boy.

[King ISO]

Hey, you ain't never seen the tools and fuse.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. But just because they ain't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, not no.

[Joe Johnson]

When you was.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When you was growing up, you had some tools and fuse.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hold on, y'. All. Y' all ain't never had to take one for the team. Oh, no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Even in your younger, you never had to take one. No, I was too good of a Joe. I was too good of an athlete.

[Joe Johnson]

I know. Took one for the team here.

[King ISO]

Absolutely not. But I was that boy in high school. What I look like?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, we had a homeboy for that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we all did.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

A homeboy.

[King ISO]

Hey, Joe, I was. I was him in high school, Joe. Yeah. Hey, how. I'm taking one tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

What about when you got to college?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You. Oh, definitely. Oh, absolutely not. Come on, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, so y' all got a golden tip, huh? No, y' all got a platinum.

[King ISO]

Hey, that's. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. It's so funny you said that. It's so funny you said that, Joe. They used to call me Goldie in college.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey.

[King ISO]

They used to call me Goldie.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But you know what? You know why Joe asked this question? You know Joe. That guy took a couple of. Hey, yeah, Joe took a couple of blows. Joe took a couple of blows. He's a crash.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm saying it may have been some.

[King ISO]

Some.

[Joe Johnson]

Some. Some unfortunate situation. I might, you know. Hey, I might have, you know, had to entertain somebody for you. I mean, like. Yeah, yeah.

[King ISO]

Just a little conversation, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

You know, conversation route.

[King ISO]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I get called. Yeah, yeah. But no, no, I had a homeboy. I had a homeboy named me show. He.

[Joe Johnson]

It didn't matter. He didn't matter what came through the door.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, it did not matter.

[Joe Johnson]

Why? Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Did not matter.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I got some homeboy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. I'm like, hey, damn, she got a friend. I need to keep her occupied. I said, hey, take me down here. Let me see. Hey, Michelle, I need a favor. What's your. A shot? What you need? I said, man, I need your. A mechanic. Me take one for the Team, a real trooper to this day. I could, I guarantee you I could call my sister. I said, hey, Libby, go find me show. Hey, I got a ticket for you. Go to the airport. I need you to take one. Michelle getting on the floor, no questions asked.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Get on the plane right now.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, look, we all got some homeboys who took one now because, well, I didn't say, hey, I didn't see some of my partner come through with some booger wolves.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey,

[Joe Johnson]

I'm talking about Ocho. I called, I called my partner one morning. Boy, that boy was up early in the morning. I'm like, what the hell you doing up so early? He just so happened I was up when I seen that girl come down, said, boy, y' all be ashamed of yourself.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, hey, I gotta. I got a homeboy, I gonna call his name. Cause he. I know. Hey, look here, Ocho. I said, man, you must be a zookeeper. Cause I know you get this one from the zoo. Ain't no way I'm talking about. It might be. Let's just say if 300 people in there and out of the 300, they might be, say. Let's just say for the sake of argument, 25, 30 times, yeah, he gonna find the worst looking one and be posted up. And then. Because you know, I'm over in the corner, I'm up in the cut. And then he gonna come. Hey, I said, look at man,

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meet

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

me at the truck at 12. Don't you come back over here. I'm being truck at 12, right. Don't you come back over here by me. Because I don't want nobody to think, right. Oh, absolutely. Listen, boy, I'm talking about. I'm talking about. I don't know what I say. And I. I told him, he'll tell you this. I say, of all the women in here, you pick.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, oh, bring him to Denver.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He come to Denver. Is the exact same thing. I'm like, you know, you don't have to do this though, right?

[Joe Johnson]

You know why they do it? Hey, they want somebody with low self esteem, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They. Hey, I understand low, but no,

[King ISO]

I

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

get the low, but no, now I'm good. It's mutual. Oh, with the World cup coming up, we gonna see y' all at a game. If not, we getting some coverage on it. Yes, we're definitely covered. Real football talked about on Nightcap. Yeah. Oo trying to get me to go to a game. Now we're definitely gonna cover it. I'm trying to see what's close by

[Joe Johnson]

Atlanta, but Yeah, yeah, he's gonna be jumping out here.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think. I think they got something. Do they got anything in Vegas? Do they got anything at Allegiance Stadium? I know they got something in Sofi. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Want to thank you guys for watching. I want to very thank our special guest for joining us. Also y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite. That's my partner and co host, the Fugazi King. Being a ring of fame honorary a former Pro bowler and an all pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the third member of the big three, a seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, Little Rock, Arkansas native that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys. Thank you for your support and you continue to support those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by Laportier. Head over to laportierconac.com if it's unavailable. Any state or city near you. The best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. Please, please Drake responsibly and stay safe. Want to thank our very special guest. Oh first of all, the Knicks beat the beat the number beat the Celtics 112 to 106 thanks to two dagger threes in the fourth quarter by Josh Hart. He was the leading score score 15 of his 26 in the fourth. Jalen Brunson added 25 and 10 as they beat the Boston Celtics 112 to 106. And Kevin Durant scores 29 as the Rockets beat the 76 is 113 to 102. But the sixes were missing Joel and B who had an emerging emergency appendectomy due to an acute appendicitis. Very special guest join us tonight. Ohio State defensive tackle Kaden McDonald. 62326 All American projected the first round pick. Seems so exciting, full of personality, man. We wish him and his family all the best on that big night two weeks from Thursday. Again, thank you. Thank you guys for joining us. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. I'm Unc, he's Ocho, he's ISO. We're off tomorrow, but we'll see you Saturday. Thank you.

[Joe Johnson]

He's out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Sa.

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