Nightcap Hour 2: Arch Manning’s CAREER STATEMENT Game + NFL FINES the Giants?! + Will Eagles TRADE AJ Brown? + Trevon Diggs moved to INJURED RESERVED

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2: Recap & Highlights

Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guest Host: “Unk” Heath Ocho
Episode Date: October 26, 2025
Key Themes:
College football storyline led by Arch Manning, recent NFL fines and injuries, Eagles trade rumors around AJ Brown, Trevon Diggs’ injury and speculation, and other trending sports topics.

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Overview

Shannon Sharpe and Heath Ocho break down a busy week in football, spanning from Arch Manning’s clutch college performance to high-profile NFL fines, key player injuries, and swirling trade rumors. The duo’s signature unfiltered banter, storytelling, and football insight makes the complex, off-the-field stories feel real, relevant, and entertaining.

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Main Discussion Points

1. Arch Manning's Career Game at Texas

Timestamps: 03:01–05:16

• Performance Review:
  • Arch Manning: 29/46 passing, 346 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT, 10 carries for 6 yards.
  • Texas struggled with the run; leaned heavily on Arch.
  • Overcame a 17-point deficit on the road at Mississippi State.
• Sharpe: “He threw ‘em to victory.” (03:29)
• Ocho: Notes Arch’s growth in poise and play extension.
• Game Context: Game went to overtime; time of possession almost even.
• Remaining Schedule: Still have to face Alabama and Vanderbilt. Tough stretch ahead.

2. Indiana Football’s Surge & Unexpected Blowouts

Timestamps: 05:19–09:05

• Indiana’s football team (“Hoosiers”) notches another 50+ point conference win—shifting their rep from basketball to football.
• Sharpe: “You talkin’ about takin’ a dormant program and building it into a power? He’s done that.” (07:30)
• Ocho: Jokes about NIL deals: “I wonder what they nil package look like.” (07:54)
• Recognition for coach Kurt Signetti's rebuild and efforts.

3. NFL Fines for Violating Concussion Protocol

Timestamps: 12:56–16:35

• Giants fined $200,000, Coach Daboll $100,000, RB Cam Scat $15k for protocol breach on Jackson Dart.
• Both hosts stress player safety, the NFL’s legal liability history, and inevitable risks of the game.
• Ocho: “They’re protectin’ the shield... It’s good, but... we play a barbaric sport. There’s only so much safety you can provide.” (14:09)
• Sharpe: Compares football to car racing — inherent risks remain despite safety efforts.

4. Vontaze Burfict: Playing “Old School” & NFL Toughness

Timestamps: 17:18–19:43

• Vontaze Burfict admits to taking intentional shots at the Steelers.
• Discussion around “dirty” play and its evolution.
• Sharpe: “He woulda fit in perfect in the 80s and 90s.” (17:53)
• Both criticize the NFL for glorifying and monetizing big hits, then penalizing them.

5. AJ Brown’s Trade Rumors & Eagles Dynamics

Timestamps: 24:25–34:27

• A.J. Brown frustrated with usage, despite a strong game (4 catches, 121 yds, 2 TDs)—tweeted “using me but not really using me.”
• Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie dances around trade denial.
• Ocho: “Owners... will remind you you’re not bigger than the program.” (25:36)
• Sharpe: “How you mad if you catch four balls, a buck 21 and two touchdowns and you win? And you catch the touchdown to win the game.” (26:39)
• Deep dive into the technical reasons (struggles with zone coverage, Hurts’ anticipation vs. man/zone) for target fluctuations.
• Ocho: “There’s always a way to get me the ball, but that comes to Jalen Hurts trusting those throws.” (30:16)
• Offensive line injuries and run-game regression also cited as major factors.

6. Ravens Injury Report Controversy (Lamar Jackson)

Timestamps: 35:22–39:39

• Ravens accused of misreporting Jackson’s practice status.
• Sharpe: “...If all he goes through is individuals and he isn’t with the first team, list him as limited.” (37:27)
• Explores ramifications for sports betting.
• Banter about “whale” sports gamblers and practice squad rules.

7. Trevon Diggs Placed on Injured Reserve – Strange Circumstances

Timestamps: 40:07–49:50

• Diggs to IR (concussion symptoms from a home “slip and fall,” speculation about a “knock and fall”).
• 3rd straight season on IR; rumors swirl about Cowboys moving on.
• Sharpe: “If they do let him go, you know, right down in… the 5-1-3… we welcome him with open arms.” (43:15)
• Ocho: Calls out Cowboys brass for “sassy” handling and wonders if the relationship has soured for good.
• Sharpe: Highlights the unique challenge of returning from ACL for a corner.

8. College Football and NFL Updates, Other Notables

Quick Hits:

• Colorado Buffaloes (Deion "Prime" Sanders’ team) blown out by Utah; expectations vs. reality debate.
• Indiana’s sports programs all surging.
• Colts’ surprise gains with Daniel Jones.
• Player health and expectations in a pressure-cooker sports media world.

9. UFC White House Superfight Proposal

Timestamps: 55:04–59:02

• Jon Jones and Alex Pereira express mutual interest in fighting at the White House for UFC’s 250th US anniversary.
• Lively debate on “biggest possible” fight and event hype.
• Ocho jokes about fighting either Jones or Pereira in a dark alley: “If I had to get to the other side, I’d beat Jon Jones’ ass.” (57:22)

10. Listener Q&A and Rapid Fire Segments

Timestamps: 59:50–end

• Banter, fan questions, running jokes about fights, coaching, and “meat and potatoes” football.
• Calls for better Colorado coordinators, praise for Indiana Fever and Pacers, and more.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On NFL Fines and Safety:
  • “They’re protecting themselves. They’re protecting the shield… There’s only so much safety you can provide.”
    — Ocho, (14:09)
• On A.J. Brown’s Frustration:
  • “How you mad if you catch four balls, a buck 21 and two touchdowns and you win… and you catch the touchdown to win the game?”
    — Sharpe, (26:39)
  • “Owners remind you you’re not bigger than the program.”
    — Ocho, (25:36)
• On Vontaze Burfict:
  • “He just happened to be born at the wrong time to play that brand of football.”
    — Sharpe, (17:57)
  • “You talk about frowning upon it, but you glorify it. You’re selling it. You’re making money off it.”
    — Sharpe, (18:53)
• On Cowboys/Trayvon Diggs Drama:
  • “They sassy… They don’t talk with the kind of respect the player deserve.”
    — Ocho, (48:01)
  • “Sometimes relationships end up… not on good terms. That might be where we’re headed.”
    — Ocho, (49:50)
• On College Football Culture:
  • “A coach once told me: if we beat a team bad, we do them a favor… let them know you don’t have what it takes to compete with us.”
    — Sharpe, (67:10)
• On UFC White House Fight:
  • “If I had to get to the other side, I’d beat Jon Jones’ ass or Pereira. You hear me?”
    — Ocho, (57:22)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Arch Manning’s Game: 03:01–05:16
• Indiana Football Surge: 05:19–09:05
• NFL Giants Fined: 12:56–16:35
• Burfict “Old School” Football: 17:18–19:43
• AJ Brown Trade Rumors, Eagles Offense: 24:25–34:27
• Ravens Injury Report/Lamar: 35:22–39:39
• Trayvon Diggs to IR, Cowboys Fallout: 40:07–49:50
• UFC at the White House: 55:04–59:02

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Tone & Takeaways

• Authentic, Barbershop Banter: Hosts keep it honest, use frank language, and inject personal history and humor.
• Football IQ: X’s and O’s plus personnel and business insights—useful for casual and hardcore fans alike.
• No Topic Off-Limits: Player frustrations, front office moves, sports business politics, and culture all fair game.
• Memorable Riffs: Rapid-fire debate, playful jabs between hosts, and vivid personal anecdotes enrich the analysis.

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Summary for Non-Listeners:
This episode of Nightcap covers a huge span of current football and sports news. Sharpe and Ocho break down why Arch Manning’s comeback is so meaningful, blast the NFL for inconsistency on violence and fines, dissect A.J. Brown's discontent, and deliver incisive commentary on injuries and front office drama. Meanwhile, they weigh in on the massive UFC superfight brewing at the White House, keeping the conversation spirited and fun throughout. If you want lively, insightful, and no-nonsense football (and fight) talk, this episode is a must-catch.

Transcript

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[Unk Heath Ocho]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Arch Manning, 29 of 46. 3:46, 3 touchdowns, 1 interception. Carried the ball six times, 10 times for 6 yards. They didn't run the ball well at all. And so they needed Arch to play like he played. And look, and people gonna say it's Mississippi State, Mississippi State. But it's on the road. Mississippi State has a, has a decent defense. They had a 17 point lead.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hostile environment.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. And he, he, he threw him to a victory.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, that's the one thing that he really couldn't do. He really couldn't do early in the season when they would stop the run or when the run wasn't good, he wasn't able to do it through the air.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Throwing interceptions, ball sailing out of bounds, throwing under, throwing people, overthrowing people. And what I saw today, calm, relax in the pocket when need extending plays, making throws. Which is why his numbers look the way they did today. Yep, it looked promising. He looked promising. So I'm glad he's playing well now. And listen, down, down, se. They were down 17. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

17 in the fourth quarter.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Man, listen, man, that, that, that's, that's a part of that clutch gene.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they trying to see 428 total yards. They weren't very good on third down, which was re. One of the reasons they found themselves down by 17. They were 8 or 20 on. On down. Mississippi State weren't much better. They were 6 of 19. But at the end of the day, you got the win and that's really what it comes down to. Game was really evenly matched. Texas had the ball for 30 minutes and 1 second. Mississippi State had it for 29.59. That's why you saw the game going overtime. So Arts got a big victory, but they're not out of the woods yet. They still have Alabama. They got, still got Vanderbilt, they got.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Vanderbilt this next Saturday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They get Vanderbilt at home. And then I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think they, they head into Alabama.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Well, that's a tough, that's a, that's a tough two game stretch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No team in college football had won a conference game by 50 or more points this season other than Indiana. And today they did it for the second time. The second ranked Hughes Hoosiers accomplished defeat. One month after destroying Illinois by 53, they hammered the UCLA 5650. Star quarterback Fernando Mendoza sought out the rest of the half as his younger brother, freshman Alberto Menzo Mendoza replaced him as quarterback. They putting foots in people, man. They beat, they, they beat the brakes on people.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

They, they not only beating people on, they beating people convincingly. Yes, convincingly. When you think of Indiana, the first thing you think about when you hit Indiana is you think basketball. Yes, you think basketball. You don't even see him as a football school. So the fact that brother Mendoza and the rest of his compadres are doing what they're doing at Indiana. Football looks good. It's promising.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Look, before Peyton Manning got there, they were known for basketball. In the Indy 500. Peyton turned it into like a football state. Indiana, it was a basketball school. Everybody knows what Coach Knight has done for that Ind.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Oh yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did their three national championships. Last one in 191987 when they beat Syracuse. That was Jim Boehi. Derrick Coleman was a freshman. Ronnie Cycler was at Syracuse. They had Steve Alford, Keith Smart.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hold on. Miami Heat, Ronnie Cycling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep, he went to Syracuse. He and Derrick Coleman. Derrick Coleman was a freshman and that was his last, that was his last national championship because they won in 76 when they had Scott May Kent Benson. That was the last undefeated team in college to win a national championship. 81. That was Isaiah freshman year when Isaiah and them beat Georgetown. That was also the same day the assassination attempt on President Reagan's life. That was 1981. John Hinckley tried to assassinate President Reagan and they played the game that night. But, but Indiana, man, that ball club Signetti, Kurt Signetti is done. You talking about taking a dormant program and building it into a power. Yeah, he's done that. He went to the college football playoffs last year. Harriers look like they're in position to go back again.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

And this is the funny thing about it is he has the players. I wonder what, I wonder what they ended. What they nil package look like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not looking much. It'll look like much.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, that's what I'm saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody look like everybody moving forward.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, he got some boys in there, man. He got some boys in there. They playing some ball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They playing. They playing unbelievable. Football and he said he can coach. Like I said, up, up until last year, I didn't know much about him. Yeah, but seeing what he's doing with this ball club and to follow it up because, you know, sometimes you can sneak up on somebody. We saw tcu. Sorry, Ash. Make it to the College Football Playoff and then get drug bad. Hey, last time I saw somebody get drugged that bad, I was at a tractor pool. You know, you don't see, you don't normally see things get drugged like that. But the Bulldogs drug him. But he has this team playing, they're in position and it looks like they're gonna head. They're headed back to the college football playoffs. Again.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

O.J. the NFL is fined the New York Giants $200,000. Coach Brian Dall a hundred thousand dollars. Running back cam scatterable, 15,000 for violating concussion protocol during Jackson darts evaluation. Now remember, oo they got away with it in New York.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Remember when he was screaming and they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They put Russ in and he said, well, you know, he wanted to call a timeout and they like, hold on, hold on, bro. We got to go through protocol. This man getting any turn and he coming right back in the game. No, no, no, no, no, no, we're not going to do that.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah. Ain't working like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, so. Because the last thing. Well, the NFL didn't protect him. So the NFL said, no, we f. To Stop. We f. To put a stop to this.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

You got to listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y', all, y' all go that they try to skirt the system.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

And people, people have to understand, especially those in the chat, you have to understand what the NFL is doing with the protocol and why they're talking, taking such extreme measures. When players get dinged up and they have the spotters that sit high and look low and say, oh, you know what you need to get out of the game. Right. The fact that the NFL lost the lawsuit to what, two errors ago or three errors ago? Three years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was right after. It was like in the last 15, I think. Last 15.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah. I mean, listen, they lost a lawsuit. Oh, I think over a billion dollars, if I'm not mistaken. Something like that, where they claim concussions and certain injuries that, that players had to play through, you know. And so with them losing that now, they're taking every safety measure possible. Every safety be. I mean, they're being nitpicky with it. It doesn't matter what it is, you know, if you, you look like you bear wrong man, you coming out, you're going in blue tent. So they, they're protect, they're protecting themselves. They're protecting the shield. And in, in a sense, it's good. I, I, I'm all for safety, but again, at the end of the day, we play a barbaric sport. You understand what you signed up for? There's only so much safety you can, you can provide, you know, with, with, with, with helmets and pads. When you got dudes as fast as they are, as big as they are running into each other, 30, 40 miles an hour. Whatever, whatever, whatever it may be. I mean, it's, Dude.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that's the thing. I mean, look, they've made the car safer, but accident, accidents happen and people still lose their lives in car race.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got side airbags, you got front airbags.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you run into somebody at a high rate, enough for speed, things are going to happen. You tip the car over it, roll, it's going to happen. It just, that's just the way, that's just the way it is. Yeah, but, but I like inherently dangerous sport.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you're trying to make it safe. Yeah, I mean, listen, trying to make it safe.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

You're trying to make it safe the best way you can by changing the game, the rules, obviously, the kickoff and stuff like that to, to minimize the injuries. But they're gonna happen. They're still, they're still happening. And most of the injuries now, it ain't Even contact. It's non contact stuff that's happening.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

So they still getting hurt. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so I'm not surprised at this because I heard him talk early in the year when it happened, and they ended up putting Russ in, and he said he wanted to call the timeout. They wanted to see, like I want. I said, bro, you do realize everything that you say can will be used against you.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Against you. Yes, it will.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so they like, ah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We were not f to do that. We're not. We're not f to do that. We f to put a stop to this. We f to put a stop to this now. Next time it's gonna be a. A bigger fine and they mess around and end up suspending.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They want to get this message loud and clear. They don't want to start this. They don't want to start this precedent.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Oh, no. And you know what? I don't think other coaches are really in a position where they have to rely on Jackson Dart, which makes the offense go. He changes the dynamic of that offense tremendously. Which.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Which is why he won his ass back in that game as fast as possible. Because he gives us our best chance to win.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct. And that's why he said, I would have taken a time out if I, if that. That was all, you know, hey, I take a timeout.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I, I think they want you to miss a player, too. Actually. They prefer it to be more because they want to do a proper eval, but they need you to miss at least a play or two.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Former Bingos Vontez Burfic says he intentionally took two shots with when playing against the Steelers. He hated Pittsburgh. I didn't hit people after the play all the time, just the Steelers after Steelers. Burford was giving multiple suspensions for violating player safety rules. Did you play Avant Detez?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Nah, nah. That, that. He's the error after me. I think Vontez is the AJ Green era.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Him and Andy D. Now, I, I, I was, I was long gone after that. But I, I, I, I enjoyed. I enjoyed his style of play. Vontez Burfick would have been perfect during our era. He would have. His style of play would have been perfect. Doing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. He fit in Perfect in the 80s and the 90s.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Oh, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He just happened to be born at the wrong time to try to play that brand of football.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, that. That's it. But, you know, but he got a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lot of people up out of there.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Oh yeah, listen. There are very few people that play the game in that manner. And most people will call it, most people will call it dirty, obviously. But again, it's football. It's football. That's the way the game has been played. It's, that's the way it's been played the last, who knows how many years before the rule changes have come. And he just chose to take it into a manner of himself to play it like it was in the 80s and 90s, in the early 2000s. It was frowned upon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Well, I, I, they used to have segments on espn.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Oh yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jacked up video. They have a compilation of all the big hits they package and they would sell it. It was on dv, it was on cd. Excuse me, it was on VCR tapes.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then it was on a dvd. You could just order a Big hits.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And it's like, hold on, you glorifying this. You talk about you frowning upon it, but you glorify it.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You selling it. You're making money off of it.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah. Because it, it, it, it made money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. People like to see those big hits and people like, well that's, that's football. You have to have an evolution. Every, every sport is going through an evolution.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And, and, and you know, plays that was in 80s in basketball clothes, lining people out the sky and doing all that stuff. You can't do that anymore. It's, it's called evolution. You got to advance the game. You know better, you know more. So you do better say, yeah, I intentionally took cheap shots at them. Look, there is no love lost between the Bengals and the Steelers. Hines Ward, when he cracked back, they put the rule in. You see Vontes when he hit Antonio Brown.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I think that was a playoff game.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, I think he got you. I think Juju and Juju got, got him right back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep, yep, yep. Hey, that's, that's the way it is. Then, hell, then Vontes went to the Raiders and took that bread of football to the Raider. Like, bro, damn, you ain't learned your lesson.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah man.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Rumors persist that AJ Brown could be traded before the deadline this season, especially as the Eagle wide receiver has expressed his frustration in the in the offense recently. Diana Rossini recently interviewed Eagles owner Jeffrey Lure and asked him how he would react if Brown showed up and requested a trade. Lure said, we. We do what's best for the team. We don't even consider it seriously unless it's best for the Eagles. We always do what gives us the best chance of winning big. Everything else is secondary. When asked about the internal conflict with the team, Lori says, we encourage it. We want different personalities. Lori said, sometimes in trade or free agency, we'll bring in people that complement those that we have. They're different on purpose. We don't want sameness. We didn't hear Jeffrey Lurie flat out deny the Eagles wouldn't trade A.J. brown.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Could we see him in another uniform before the trade deadline?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's gonna miss this game. OO he's nursing a hamstring injury, so he's out.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, listen, un Most of the time, you know, where there's smoke, there's fire. When you hear rumblings of it come out of nowhere, you know it has to come from somewhere. I understand. When Diana. Diana, you know, asked Lori the question, he didn't answer. He danced around it. And one thing about one thing I know about owners, regardless of who you are, they will make sure and remind you that you are not bigger than the program.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

You are not bigger than the Philadelphia Eagles. When A.J. brown is gone, whether he traded or not, the Philadelphia Eagles will always go on and continue to do what. What they always do, Compete for a championship. So, I mean, A.J. brown is still well in his prime. If. If he's not happy. I mean, we know why he's not happy. There. There have been been many reasons.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo. You do realize the man just had four catches, 121 yards and two touchdowns and then put out a tweet. Using me, but not really using me. Oo Come on now. Oo Hey, I know you can't co. Sign that.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, I. I didn't say I was. I'm just. You asked me a question. I'm just. I'm. I'm just giving you a story on the inconsistencies of him not not being able to contribute week in and week out. That's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

He's mad for a reason.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't get on me, Ocho. How you mad if you catch four balls, a buck 21 and two touchdowns and you win, and you catch the touchdown to win the game.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you say using me, but not using me. I'm confused.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Wait a minute, wait a minute. Listen, I'm. I'm just a messenger. I'm just a message. I'm just here to give the message.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay? Give me the message. How is that possible?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, I don't know, but it is possible because he's upset. He's upset.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Matter of fact, even after you have four catches for 121 yards and two touchdowns, you're still upset.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

You know what? Maybe it's the manner in which those catches came. God damn. That was a broken play. That was a scramble play. That don't even count. You know, Allow me to be a part of the offense. Authentically, organically, not. Oh, Jalen hurts. He scrambles out to the left and he tells me and he points up for me to go deep. That's a broken play. That's not an actual play. Now, I understand the outcome of having four catches, 121 yards is based on, you know, those plays, but he was. He was frustrated when he caught the dig, right? I mean, not the dig, the skinny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

When he caught a skinny. They. If you look at the replay, he damn got the damn quarterback name.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jalen Hurts.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Jalen Hurts changed the play. In the. In the replay, you can see him give him this. He put the three fingers down. He changed it to the goddamn skinny. He changed. So I mean, listen, I hope it doesn't happen because I think A.J. brown gives them their best chance to win, especially when they have to throw the ball. There isn't another AJ Brown on that team. If he is to go, that can help. I think they play well off of each other. Devontae Smith and AJ Brown, they both do things completely different outside of just catching the ball. So. But. But one thing about them owners on one thing, they will show you that you are not bigger than the program.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In the article published in the App for the Athletic on Saturday, Diana Rossini discussed what going on with Browning Hurt. She said those who have studied film can understand why Brown is frustrate. Opposing defensive coach told Rossini that Hurt struggles against zone defenses and that Brown becomes MIA when teams play zone against Herz. Hearst reportedly is sometimes unsure if the coverage of the coverage looks or whether he'll go deep or check that. Check things down. So that could explain why Brown might not get the ball as much as he would like.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Also, what I like about Jalen hurts. Even though coaches understand that he might be a little hesitant when it comes to the zone defense. Her ain't turning that goddamn ball over, right? I'm not turning the ball over. So if I see something and I'm not sure what it is, even if it is zone or it's man, and it's not a clear indication and I can't process it right away, I'm checking down or I'm going to my safety valve to my tight end. Now, if I have to do that all four quarters until they decide to play man, then so be it. And that's exactly the way he plays the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

And if you notice he's not turning the ball over, it's not happening.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. And in zones, you have to throw it anticipation, because guys are going to be moving through, in and out of windows and he's not as sure as he needs to be.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With great anticipation. If you notice his big plays, it's always single coverage.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, always. Most.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look at what. Look at what. Look at what AJ did against the Rams. It was single coverage. Look at what he did. Look at what he did against the Vikings. It was single coverage.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah. I mean, in a way, it's a good thing and it's also a bad thing because now A.J. brown, A.J. brown is complaining because whether zone or man, there's always a hole. There's always. There's always a way to get. Get me the ball. But that comes on the other end of Jalen hurts being able to anticipate those throws in those windows and trusting that A.J. brown is going to always be in the windows.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

But something like that, that starts in practice. That happens in practice. So if you're not doing it in practice, it's definitely not going to all of a sudden just happen in the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. No, it's not. And, you know, you got to call plays that are good against the zone that they're running. Look, you look. And I think the thing is oo is that teams are not going to let 26 beat them.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And. And. And as long as they're able to control it. I mean, look, I can't stay in zone all day. I got to give you a steady diet, because even if I stay in zone all day, you'll find ways, you know, hey, you'll check it down. You'll find a tight end. Excuse me. And you'll find other ways to get other guys to ball, even if it's not A.J. brown. So I have to give you a steady. When you expect, man. I'm gonna give you zone. When you expect, you know. Zone. I'm gonna give you, man, the question is that being able to decipher it and figure it out in time. But, hey, look, it's just hard. People are never going to coincide if you win the game and you have a monster game like he had and you won. People like, man, aj, we ain't trying to hear that.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I know I get the frustration level.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

AJ's like, Bro, it's. Y' all ain't gonna be looking when. When. When my numbers are not indicative of what you guys paying me. Y' all ain't gonna take into consideration he ain't reading. I mean, he's not good against zone. Y' all not gonna take against consideration he's missing me. All you gonna say, man, AJ done lost it.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all never gonna say because I play a dependent position. I'm dependent on the guy giving me an opportunity.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I know what y' all gonna do. I'm just trying to beat y' all to the punch.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

See, and. And that. That's what I was telling you earlier. That's what I'm telling you earlier. You know this. They not basing your production on wins and losses.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, pain.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Basically your production on your wins. Loss net 33, 34 million. You making. Oh, I need to see the numbers that are indicative of the money you make when that check clear every Monday. And if it don't that not gonna come at the door and they're gonna say, listen, I love you, but your numbers aren't reflective of the money you making. How you feel about taking a pay cut.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think it's hard Ocho for him to replicate what he did last year because Saquon isn't running the ball like he did last year. So without him running the ball like he ran last year, now it's hard to get single coverage all the time like you got it last year because they were really trying to put eight the box and the offensive line is a little banged up. The offensive line is not, it's not, is not whipping ass like they did last year. I mean if you watch the game, chat, watch the game, look at the game closely, they're not dominating the line of scrimmage like they did last year. They're good, don't get me wrong. They're, they're good offensive line but they're not dominant like they were last year. Dickerson has been banged up and it started in remember oo he got nicked and he missed the start and he just basically had to. I think he got it cleaned up and he ended up playing and he's been in and out of the lineup. Jurgenson the center is not playing like he did last year. Lane Johnson been dealing with injury. My lotta might be dealing with something because he's not as dominant as he once was. They miss Maai Beck. I don't know who the guard is off the top of my, the right guard is off the top of my head but they're not the same dominant, dominant and last year guys they were dominant offensive line that they were last year. They're not that this year. And AJ numbers are, are, are indicative of that because they can't run. Saquon. Look at Saquon number. They're not even close to what they were last year. Not even close. I mean he's barely on pace to get a th yards or a little over a thousand yards last year. He signed out the last game and he had 2005 yards.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

The funny thing too about it, most 2000 yard rushes, the chance of actually repeating what you did the previous season right is, is very very difficult. Yeah, it's very very difficult.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We've never had a guy to have 212 thou thousand yard seasons. Derrick Henry had to, had to, had, had the best chance. He had 2000 in Tennessee and then he goes and he has 19 over 1900. Yeah, he's the first guy to, to rush for 1900 yards and not win the rushing title. So that just goes to show you how great a season Saquan had. But until they can run the football better than what they've run it thus far, I don't know. I don't see a situation where A.J. brown is not gonna be frustrated, not gonna be upset or disappointed or whatever term you want to use with the production or the lack thereof that he's given the Eagles currently.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Ravens are facing some scrutiny after abruptly changing Lamar Jackson's status to the official injury report they released Friday. Lamar was listed as limited in practice on Wednesday and Thursday, but was initially upgraded to a full participant in Friday's practice. That implies that Lamar could be progressing towards playing on Sunday against the Bears. Today, however, the. The Ravens announced that Lamar actually been limited on Friday and that it ruled him out for Sunday's game. According to the report by Ian Rappaport, the NFL will be investigating. They said he participated. Yes, but he didn't take any reps. The first team and it's clearly the NFL says if the guy doesn't take. If all he goes through is individuals and he doesn't take any reps with the first team, he should be listed as a limited participant.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, I don't know what he was. I wasn't there. I didn't see.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But the NFL, and remember Ocho, this is why they list the injury report.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They make it public purpose. Because just imagine if they didn't release the injury report and you see what guys were doing allegedly what they would do, they would call it, man, such and such ain't going to play tonight to only get that out there because it's going to be official. We're going to make it official in the next two hours. But don't nobody know that but me and you. So keep that, keep that on the hush.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Right? I mean, listen, the funny thing about it is, let's say he was aiming to come back and play, but he was limited in practice and it wasn't enough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you. But you. But you got to list him as limited. You can't list him as a full participant and then turn around today and list him as limited.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hold on. Listen to me. Huh? What if he was a full participant but he didn't feel. He didn't feel like, okay, you know what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But they lied. They said he didn't take any reps with the first team offense. They said all he did was go through drills. That ain't good enough. The NFL says anytime he. He doesn't take ref with the first team. You got to list him in limited.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Okay, okay, okay, I got you. I see. I see what you mean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I see what you mean.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Okay, I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That. That's. But here's the thing. You see what happened? You see what. You see what happened? They list him as a full participant, which means he's trending towards playing. I'm gonna get my Betty Lamar playing. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Oh, damn. Now he downgraded to out. Come on, man.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, listen, one thing about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see how that swing the line?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Oh, yeah, it's. It's swing the line. But listen, you. You got time. You be. You better take that money off the table.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Too late. You kick. Hey, you giving somebody money back?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. The game hasn't been played yet.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

If you place the bet.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

If you place the bet before the game, before the game happened, you can't get your money back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But who giving you your money back?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Well, hold on. You know, I don't gamble like that now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, some of them people are like, look, there are some places like pri. Like. Like at prize picks, you got bet. You got. You bet on the guy, the guy gets injured and he doesn't come back into the game, they won't count it as a loss. But if you bet.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

On.

[Shannon Sharpe]

On Friday, that such and such that, oh, he's gonna play. Let me get my money in. So I know they gonna cover, right? Oh, no, you're not getting that back boat.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Oh, shoot. Listen, you placed a bet that didn't even happen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, it happened because you already put it down. It happened, it happened, it happened. So now prize picks also give you five minutes after the base bet is placed, so you can cancel the bet. Well, Ocho, if I. If I bet. If I bet on a Friday and this information don't come out until Saturday afternoon, I'm stuck like Chuck.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Okay, now you messed up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm stuck like an elevator with a bad song on it. I'm going to the top. I gotta listen to this boy job. I'm on the first flow, Ocho.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, I remember the day, but, you know, you know, they used to. When I used to go to Vegas, man, back in 83. You know, like they used to call I was the whale back then, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That what they call you?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, they used to call me the whale. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what I used to do, Ocho?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't do it no more now because before people knew who I really was, right?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Say I'm going to the fourth floor. And then somebody said he going to like, 16. I hit all the buttons in between. See y'.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, don't you go do it. That. Ocho, because I know that's some stuff you do right now.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, hey, that's. Hey, that's right up my alley, man. That's right up my alley. I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Don't show that. But, you know, probably couldn't do that now because, you know that's gonna make. That's gonna make tmz. That's gonna make sense. Ocho, take your time to place Trayvon Diggs on injured reserve Saturday as he continues to deal with concussion symptoms. Symptoms following an accident at his home last week. Diggs will miss a minimum of the next four games and be eligible to return Thanksgiving against the Kansas City Chiefs. This is the third straight year that Diggs will spend at least a portion of the season on injured Reserve. He missed 15 games in 2023 after suffering in ACL. He missed six games last season with a knee injury that ultimately required surgery. Ocho.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I'm not mistaken, I think Stephen Jones asked. You could pull that up. Stephen Jones says, I'm gonna let Stefan, when he talks to the media, tell you guys what happened in the incident at his home. Now, they said it was a slipping fall. Now, when the owner. When. When one of the mouthpieces of the. Of ownership, Steve, Jerry, says, well, we're gonna let him tell you about the incident. Now, people have been reporting that it wasn't a slip and fall.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

What happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was a knock and fall. But that's neither here. I don't know a knock.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

I. I ain't here this one. Now, you. You. You. You gonna have to update me because.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They said it was two hits. Look like he got hit and he hit the floor. That's what's being. That's what. That's what the Internet is saying. I don't know. But for the. For. For somebody to say, well, I'm gonna let. Oh, if I tell you, man, Ocho is not gonna. You know, I come out and Icho had an issue going on, and then I come back later and say, well, I'm gonna let Ocho tell y' all what happened.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hold on, hold on. You ain't trying to say, you know, I know ain't nobody put. Ain't nobody put their hands on my dog.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what. That's what the chat. I be. Look at Your chat. What Your chat saying.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, chat, y', all. Y' all let me know. Hey, hey, hey, Trayvon. But you need. You, hey, you need. I'm, I'm here. Hey, holla at your boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo. How bad is this for the Cowboys? Digs out of the secondary. He hadn't been the same since he heard that. Oo. He hadn't been the same.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, I listen, he missed, he missed two previous seasons. Obviously, the one with, with, with the ACL tear after he got the big money, obviously the following year, missed six. Irritated that a little bit. And obviously the, the situation that's going on right now where I, I, I don't know what, what's going on or what happened, but now he got, he has to miss with a minimum, maybe four games.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he got to miss at least four.

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Yeah.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

So listen, they still have brother Daron Bland, brother Duron Bland just got paid, and he's making, he's making that payoff work because his play is matching up to what he would just play what he was just paid. I think he's next in line to be quarterback. Not quarterback. CB number one for the Dallas Cowboys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

And because he's playing well, I'm assuming at some point they may be willing to, to let Trayvon Diggs go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They go. They are.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

And listen, if they do let him go, you know, right down in, in, in. In. In the 5, 1, 3. We. We. We welcome with open arms. The number 7 is open. The number 7 is open. You can come help us get our defense going, because we gonna be all right. We gonna be all right. So it's one thing one team don't want you. There's another.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He'S predicated on. He's at his best when they can pressure the quarterback because he likes to guess. Yeah. Now, I don't know if Cincinnati is going to be the best for him because y' all don't generate a whole lot of pass rush. I don't know if you. I don't really want.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

No, let me, Let me, Let me. Let me tell you something real quick now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's that?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Even though we don't generate a lot of pressure, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

We got a brother that's out of Michigan, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Chat. Y' all stay with me. Right now, he is emerged as CB number one, playing phenomenal football this season, even with a bad defense. His name is DJ Eternal. Matter of fact, if you, if you don't know about him, I, I suggest y' all do me a favor and watch film, look at the Stats. Look at the numbers and what he's been able to do the entirety of the season thus far against some of the better receivers in the league. He's been very consistent, very even keel. So I think even though we don't get the pressure you'd like on the back end, we add Trayvon Diggs over there. You know, we got. We got. We got. We got some good young bulls out there, especially at the second level. We work. We work on that D line. I'm. I'm hoping Trey Henderson is not trading for the. For the trade deadline. I keep hearing rumors. I keep seeing stuff about that, too. To me, it doesn't make any sense, but we'll see what happens.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I mean, look, I just think the injury comes, I'm trying to figure out, a man got a slip and fall. You said a concussion. Now you put him on IR for. For four weeks.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah. Why would they do that? So, hold on. They put him on ir, that means they bring somebody else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That means somebody from the practice squad gets brought up because you gotta. You got. You got a roster spot available.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Right? Okay, I got you. I got you. So that makes sense. That makes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it just. It just seems suspicious because Brian. Brian Schottenheimer said he had a slip and fall.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Even Jones said. Ash, did you find that article? Stephen Jones says, I'll let Stefan. When he's available to talk to the media, I'll let him tell you.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

You mean Trayvon?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Trayvon. I said Stefan Trayvon Diggs.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah. Well, did he talk to the media yet?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He ain't gonna talk. He on the engineering, so he gonna have to talk when he gets back.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Okay, okay, I'm. I'm sure. I'm sure he gonna see this. Hey, Trey. Yeah? Hit me. I do your dirty work. Whoever got a problem, tell them, holla at me. I can fix the situation. I rectify that quick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, no, I don't know. You want them problems, though, Joe?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, I want them problems. You got my dog. You got my dog missing four goddamn games. When you want to watch the Dallas Cowboys, you want to watch CD Lamb? You want to watch George Pickens? Huh? You want to watch Dick Prescott, and you want to watch the Rent Duron Bland, and you want to see Trayvon Diggs out there. That's what we want to see. So whoever took that away from us. Yeah, I'm saying us as a football fan, not a cowboy fan, just as a football fan in general. Yeah, you got my dog missing goddamn four games. So whoever responsible for this. Yeah, you you better. You better hope Trayvon don't hit my life. Matter of fact, Trayvon, if you watching this, text, text me right now. Text me right now. We handle this. Get this. We'll get this quick. Done in a hurry, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, man. What we talking about, man? However they want to do it, you know, I mean, we can go from the shoulders or we can go from the hip. I mean, how they want to do it? Wild, Wild West. Shoot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y'. All. As far as doing a spot on 103 to. 105 to 3 to fan. Jones said that Diggs had several things going on pertain to the past injuries. He also had. He all. He. He's had several things going on pertaining to the past injury. So there are things we're looking at there. We haven't ruled out that out injury reserve. So we put him on that. That look like tomorrow. When asked about the possibility that Diggs may have played his last game with Dallas, Jones said that the Cowboys haven't even gone there yet, which leaves the door open to Diggs potentially not being back at all in 2025. What you mean you ain't gone there yet? Damn. On your way to be able to see. What you mean you had gone there yet?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, hey, man, anytime. The Cowboys. Hey, the Cowboys organization, man, them folks in the positions of power. Hey, they sassy. Yeah, they. They, they. They be. They be talking like. They. They don't talk with the kind of respect that the player deserve. I don't. I don't like that. I don't. I don't like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you want. What you want them to say?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Show show some respect.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, Chad. This the same man say he like when it's honesty.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, I do, I do. I just. I just don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Was he honest?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hold on. Listen to me now. Stay with me real quick. You see how they did Michael Parsons? You see how he took shots at deck Dakota Prescott? Now, you know you're throwing subliminals and beating around the bush when it comes to answering questions about Trayvon. Hey, man, we ain't got time for that, man. We ain't got time for that. You know, they don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. I. I pay. I pay a visit to Jerry's World. I pay a visit there. I. I get. I get. I get them together now. If you got something to say, you tell me, and I relate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because when you look at it, Ocho, I mean, he was benched earlier this year. They took 500,000 from him because they didn't. He didn't show up, but they didn't think he showed up enough for off season rehab. So it didn't get off to the best start. They take 500,000 from you, so you feeling some type of way because that's a nice chunk of change. I don't care if you're making $19 million a year. That's a nice chunk of change that they took for you, not from you. Now they benched you, okay. You come back and now they put you on ir.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, sometimes relationships. Sometimes relationships end up. And most of the time, you know, they don't end on good terms. And that. That might be where we headed. That might be where we're headed. We had a good run. We had a good run. We created some great memories, but I think it is best that we part ways. That's what the Cowboys are saying subliminally. And I think Trayvon Diggs understands that. Understanding how the business works, how the game works, and he gonna have a opportunity to play again. There will be many suitors for a vet, a veteran presence, you know, of his caliber, understanding what he can do. So it is what it is, the nature of the business.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's just hard. I mean, you, you, you a corner and you have an ACL injury with all that planting, cutting, driving. Yeah, that's, you know, that's why, you know, I can tell I, I take my hat off to guys that play a skill position, wide receiver, DB, mainly right. And they have ACLs and they come back and able to pick right up where they left off. Because that's a lot of stopping and planting and cutting. You have to. The knee has to be stable, and then you have to be stable mentally.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah. To be able to make the movements.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Necessary to be able to compete out there. You. Yeah, you're right. You're right and damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So we'll see how they go. All right, it's time to play. Play or fade. Presented by prize picks. All right, ocho, Jamar, Chase, 87 yards against the Jets.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yes. 100. Matter of fact, make it 187.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. I'm taking Ocho. Justin Fields.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Justin fields, less than 169 yards passing against the Bengals. You.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

You know what? That. That's a good one right there. Now, our back end has been playing really well, but we can't get any pressure. So this might be a game where Justin fields throws for over 200. This might be a game. So if there's a game that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Excuse me, I just need 170.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

I think this is a game. He'll get it. I'm just being honest.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. We going more.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. This is gonna be good. One Ocho tour, one interception. More than one interception against Atlanta?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, he ain't gonna throw. But he ain't gonna throw none.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who tua he gonna throw? He gonna throw one or less.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

He didn't have six. He didn't have six and two games. You think he ain't gonna throw in this game?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where's Atlanta on. On takeaways at?

[Colin Cowherd]

Where?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Atlanta. Where are they on picks?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

It ain't about where they at and pick and takeaways. It's. Understand, man, Listen, it's like. It's like being a receiver. Once you drop a ball, the chance of you dropping another one, it's bound to happen. If you're a boxer and you happen to get knocked out once, the chances of getting knocked out again, those chances increase significantly. If he got six picks in two games, the chance of him throwing another pick against the Falcons. It's gonna happen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't listening to Ocho, Huh? And takeaways.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he gotta have more than one. That means he has to have two.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Oh, more than one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ah, see?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Listen to me. I'm. Listen to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ash wrote it wrong. Say 0.52 will have more than. Because she says more than one interception. So, Ash, you messed it up.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now come on here like you normally do. Like you yelling in my ear, talking about Trayvon, not Stefan. Now come on there to my ear right now and say 0.5. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't write it. She over here. Chad, you out here. I wrote it wrong. Yeah, you did. You did. Absolutely you did.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

That. That mean. That mean I was right? I was right all along. Stay with me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right. All right. We'll give him 1k otten more than 37 receiving yards for the Bears.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, but that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They been throwing the ball to love, Lace.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, that's. That's 87. Who? The bears playing the Saints. Oh, you know what? I don't trust it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You say less.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, I'm gonna say less.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, Ocho, say less. We're going left. Jonathan Taylor, more than 1.5 touchdowns against Tennessee.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah. Yes. Yes, yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Jonathan Taylor on fire, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You'll have at least two. I agree with you, Ocho. 25 to win 300. Download the app today. Use code SHANNON to get 50 in lineups. After you play your first five dollar lineup, it's good to be right. John Jones and Alex Piata both said today that they would like to face off against each other at the White White House event slated for June. Two of the UFC's biggest stars publicly called out each other on Saturday in an immediate aftermath of a very disappointing UFC heavyweight title fight between Tom Aspinall and Sarah Gahn. Pierre wrote on ig, let's make the heavyweight division great again. John's response? Jones responded. I'd be down to bring the highest skill level to the White House. I appreciate the respect you've shown. Let's dance. OO we talked to Dana about doing that during the Canelo Crawford fight. Could this be potentially the biggest fight in UFC history?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

It absolutely goddamn well can be the biggest fight in U.S. u.S. History. Listen, not only fighting at the White House, I think if. I'm not sure what's happening. Conor mcrer obviously being on that card, he got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He got a suspension for aj.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, listen, he got. He got a suspension, but obviously, even. Even with him not winning some of his last fights, he is the biggest draw. If he's ever to come back, boom, he's out the equation. The next biggest fight, Jon Jones, Pereira out the white at the White House, on the lawn. Magnificent. Magnificent. There's really no other card or any other. Any other matchup that you can put together at heavyweights that would be equivalent to this. It just makes sense. It makes the most sense not only for the fight, but also for the pockets.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Because everybody's going to want to see that. And when would this fight happen? Like, do you have a date? Just a time and day?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think it's in June. Isn't it in June?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Oh, next year, yeah. Okay. I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Celebrate the 200. The 250th anniversary of the U. S. Okay, listen, that.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

That'd be nice. That'd be real nice. So, obviously, Jon Jones and. And Pereira, this is for. This is for both of you. If y' all need to tune up, if y' all need some training, y', all, you need a. A grappling partner or sparring partner?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Just let me know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm available.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't wear enough.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Come again?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't wear enough.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, can I tell you something real quick? Like, if it came down to it, and I had to. And I was in the dark alley and I had to get to the other side, I beat Jon Jones ass or Pereira. You hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I hear you.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

So I'm just letting you know if y' all boy need.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Unfortunately for Me, I'm not gonna be in a dark alley with either one of them.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

I mean, because you gotta have this. Huh? I got this right here. I don't care who it is. I don't care who it is. Ray Lewis, James Harrison, John Jones, Alex Pereira. I don't care if it was King Kong, but we gonna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I gotta permit. So that's what I got. But I ain't going.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, yeah, like. Like Adrian Broner said, anybody can get it. Now, I ain't gonna. I might not win. Like Broner said, I might not win, but we gonna go to work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you also heard brother talk about, man, I'm getting cooked.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Brono. Hey, hey, he is, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was hilarious. Ocho.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, funny, funny, funny. Hey, that. That. That's my dog, man. Funny as hell, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that would be you. Look, I mean, think about it at the card at the White House. We gotta have some American to win a fight.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We can't have all the Americans lose or not any Americans on the card.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So at least Jones is our best chance of winning.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Of winning or get to getting one fight, at least. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who else we can we put on the card? The American fighter that gonna get a win. I know it's gonna be a great event, but you can't have something in your backyard representing America and America go.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

It ain't. Yeah, I like that. Well, you know. You know, they can go ahead and put your boy. They can put me and Debo in that car, too, now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. We don't get an American to win that. We get America to win.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, that'd be good one. Hey, hey, Dana White, I know you're gonna see this. Listen, we talked. I asked you, you know, when we sat down in Vegas, put me and Debo on the White House card, please. Please. We could be the. We could be the first fight of the night. Yeah. First fight of the night.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A and A.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, that'd be nice, huh? What do you think about that? I come out of my nightcap, my nightcap stuff, nightcap, mouthpiece and James Harrison have on his B boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Joe.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Evo and Joe. Man. Oh, I. Man, I beat. I. Oh, hey, I beat Debo so bad. I have his nose on his forehead. You hear me? I have his nose on his forehead so he can smell what he thinking. That's how I'm feeling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's how you feeling?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, that's How I'm feeling. I'm. Oh, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Oh, you know we cool, but the house is divided tomorrow when my Cowboys take on your Broncos. Yeah, we're gonna put fuss in y'. All. Doc, just so you know that Kristen Fields keep the same Ryan slanders up don't change, guys. What you want me to do? The guy's been inconsistent this year. So you want me to base everything on what he did last year and just disregard what he's doing this year? Y' all know how this work in sports. You have to update your resume on a weekly basis. Yeah, you don't get to say I was great last year and played like some stir fry this year. And. And. And we just forget, like, what we see. Everybody see Ryan. Ryan Williams is not playing well. He's been inconsistent. Far too many drops. Jason Zeldorf. Prime gets so many excuses for his team being bad. They weren't good. Halloween came early for Coach Prime. He will have nightmares from this butt kicking. Oo. What was the final score?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hold on, hold on. I got a pp.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Put it up right quick. See what that final score was. See what this final scope was in the 4. Oh, man. It's 46 nothing. Oh, Lord. At least that. The Utah 24. So maybe they get a touch. They got. They don't get shut out. This is horrible. Damn time. No, ain't no excuses. They're not good. Wait, no excuses. I mean, let's be realistic. The difference between. And I'm. I'm not going to excuse. 46 to nothing.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

What was the score?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The score is 46 nothing with 11 minutes to go in the game.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Okay, but hold on. This. This is the good thing. Now let's look at the positive. Let's look at the positive. All right. They score 43 in the first half, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

At halftime, it was 43. 3. So it was only 43.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They ain't scored nothing. Colorado him score.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

But listen, they. They held him to three in the second half.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, the starters didn't play the second half. But anyway, as I was saying, Colorado didn't have. Doesn't have the expectations LSU does. Now that doesn't excuse time for not losing games or losing like this. To try to compare Colorado to LSU without the staff, without the resources, without the horses, is just. It's just a false equivalence. Now, if time was at Florida, he's at Florida State and he was losing with the expectations. That's one thing not to excuse him. This has been a disaster this year. Now, I didn't have expectations. They lost the two best players. Yeah, well, three of the best players. Jimmy Horn, who was on. Who's playing in. Well, he was. I don't know if he still is in, in, in, in, in. In Carolina, Travis and Shador. So I didn't have the expectations. So I want the chat. I want y' all to tell me what y'.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What did y' all expect? Realistically, what did y' all expect? Colorado's record to be.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hard. It's hard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nobody, nobody had said prime had college football playoff aspirations. If you didn't make the college football and your bet, your quarterback, the best player that won the Heisman, Jimmy Horn. If you lose your players like that, you think you're going to be better or worse this year than you were last year?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

I mean, you right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, I. Oh, look, I get it. I get a lot of y'. All. Y' all don't like Coach Prime. Yeah, I want Coach prime gone. I get all that. And it's been a disaster season for Coach Prime. He's had a lot of issues going on, but nobody cares about that. Nobody cares about your health. You said this is what you signed up for. Hey, oh, get well soon, coach. And the moment you get back out there, people don't want to hear about that. That's just. That's just the way life operates.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just the way it is.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Especially in sports, huh? All they care about is wins and losses. Yep, that's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they got it first and goal at the Utah one. So they gonna score a touchdown.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

See? Told you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hopefully.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, you know what I just thought.

[Shannon Sharpe]

About what you thought about.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, as I sit here and think. Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, Chat. Tell me what y' all think about this Dana White. I know you probably gonna see this too. How about me versus Nate Diaz? Because I know Debo probably gonna be scared.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kaden Salter is out of the game. He's 9 of 22 for 37 yards and an interception. Utah quarterback was 10 or 22. They don't play. Utah done played three quarterbacks. Oh, well, that one quarterback was 10 to 22, 142 touchdowns. One guy got oo. One guy got 20 rushes, 151 yards and a touchdown. Another guy got 10 carries, 145 yards and a touchdown. One guy got eight carries for 25 yards. So 43 carries for 330 yards.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Jesus Christ.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We've been talking about this. We've been talking about this all year. When we co. They still cannot consistently stop the run. How many times We've seen teams rush for 200, 300 yards. You ain't winning. I'll give them. I don't give that what you play.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

You ain't got them. You ain't got them hogs up front, huh? I mean, the hogs you do got up there, they ain't got enough rocks in their back pocket. Like you say, it's hard. It's hard to stop the running. You ain't got no meat, potatoes, 10.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Carrots for 145 yards. You give them 14 and a half yards of carry. Yeah.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, listen. It's hard, boy. It's hard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They need to get this ball in the end zone. That's what they need to do. Obviously, Utah is going to do everything they can to keep him out because I'm trying to pitch a shutout. Colorado gonna do everything they possibly can to get the ball in the end zone because he doesn't want to get shut out. Right. Ota Ray Utah should be flagged for unsports. My conduct for what they've done, what they're doing in Colorado. Yeah, they put. That's what you do. Yeah.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

That's not. That's not sportsmanship.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it is. I do. See, here's the thing, Ocho coach told me, say, son, if we beat a team bad, we do them a favor. We let them know that you don't have what it takes to compete with us. Because, see, if the game is close, you're gonna say a player here or there. When somebody beat you 46, nothing. When somebody beat you 50 to nothing, they beat you 46 to 7. What do you tell your team? You were right there. We were close. Nope. No, no. Beat them. Run the score up to let them know what you have isn't good enough.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

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[Unk Heath Ocho]

That sucks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

East Coast Cav. Tell your boy prime to get better coordinators. They play calling this horrible. They might as well get chat GPT at this point. Have they scored yet?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

What. What channel. What channel they playing on?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what challenge on. I'm just looking at the. What you call them. I'm looking at the. Colorado call the timeout. They call the timeout. Terry underscore T60. All Indiana sports teams are rising to the occasion. Fever, Pacers, Colts, Hoosier. Caitlin Clark Effect is real. She inspires greatness. The. The fever got a lot farther than I thought they would without Caitlin. But, guys, Kelsey Mitchell is sensational. She's an all wnba, all NBA player. Aaliyah Boston take another. Took another step forward. They're Going to be really good. The Pacers, they played with the double overtime last night with. With OKC. It took shape. 55 points in double overtime to pull that thing out. The Colts have been the surprise, and for me, it has been the surprise of the NFL the. This. This season thus far. Ocho.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think anybody thought they would be, excuse me, playing this well with Daniel Jones, but they're playing sensational. The defense is getting after people. Jonathan Taylor is Jonathan Taylor.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got skill position players that are really, really good. And we. We knew that. We talked about the skill position players, we talked about the offensive line. We said all they have to do is get competent quarterback play with the skill position players in the offensive line that they got. That's all they need. And Daniel Jones is giving them more than that. Shakur said Ash don't appreciate being timed out, and they ain't do nothing she did. She gave me faulty information. Philly, talk with PA Find it funny that y' all don't talk about when Josh Allen and Justin Herbert struggle in zone when they have better play calling. Keep it a book. See what you do, bro. We know. I ain't gonna even entertain that because you always trying to find something to oo you. It's. It always come down. Y' all talking about the black quarterback that we we oo. And I ain't going to dignify that. Come with something better, bro, we. We not going to do that. Rage is over here. F New Jersey. Let AJ Read some more books on the sideline. AJ say he done ran up through all the books he gonna read. Trey Turner said, man, UN said halftime. Like the guy said stop sign when he got pulled over. Yeah, man. Hey, look at 40 at 43, nothing. What you gonna go out there and do? Mess around and get somebody hurt?

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Now it's 40. It's 46. Six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

46, six now. Yeah, see, they scored. Okay.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Yeah, they did the touch push.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They did. Yeah. Can y' all please tell me as a professional, how in the world is Frank Gore able to play all those years with no knee pads? Hey, I don't know. I don't think he had no damn thigh pads either.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hey, no, he didn't. And his pants was way, way up above his knee like he had on some damn some shorts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now you gotta have knee pads. Now, I don't know how having knee pads help with concussions, but, hey, I don't know how knee pads help with torn ACLs, patella, sprained MCL, PCLs, or any other ligament in there? I don't know. But the NFL deemed it like, hey, you got to wear knee pads. Hey, they say you got to wear knee pads. You got to wear knee pads. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us again today. Unfortunately, Johnny wasn't able to join us tonight, but hopefully he'll labor to tag in with us next week. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc, Shannon Sharp. And there is my partner and co host. He's very excited. The Bingo's finally won a game last week and we go, whoa, whoa.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

We gonna win tomorrow too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all play the Jets.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

We gonna would. That don't matter. It's an NFL team.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Barely. Just the logo. Just the logo. That's it.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Hold on. Who the Broncos got tomorrow?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cowboys.

[Unk Heath Ocho]

Oh, yeah. That's a loss.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you've been saying that for the longest. Yeah, you would say that for the longest. But anyway, he's Ocho. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you for your support. On nights like this, make sure you check out My Shade by Leor. Head over to lepor.cognac.com and grab you a bottle if you can't find it in a city or state near you. It's the best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Compare it, try others and then try Shea by La Portier. We think that you'll find out and know what we've been knowing all along. We have the best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go check out my media company on all of his platform, Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84. With 84 being spelled out in the chat, Texas A M Molly waps the LSU Tigers by the score of 49 to 25. It scored 31 straight points in the second half to pull away and Texas A M is 8, 0 for the very first time since 1992 Alabama squeak Saudi victory 22, 20 29, 22 against the South Carolina Gamecocks. Thank you guys again for joining us. I'm unk Heath oo. We'll see you tomorrow night after the game. Thanks for joining us y'. All. Sa.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Can small acts make a real impact in the world? Sometimes a small thing has the power to become more something big and meaningful. And when it comes to helping children, no act is too small. When you fill up at the Purple Giving Pump at Shell, a portion of your purchase will be donated to support.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Charities in your community.

[Colin Cowherd]

The Giving Pump Easy to stop, easy to donate from 9125 to 103125 participating Shell stations will donate a minimum of $0.01 per gallon of the fuel pump from the Giving Pump or a minimum donation of $300.