Nightcap Hour 2: Assante Samuel CALLS OUT Cam Newton + Kevin Stefanski OUT in Cleveland as Head Coach + NBA BANS wearing headband on neck + Kokomo Murase becomes FIRST WOMAN to land 1620

Summary

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Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2 (Jan 4, 2026):

Assante Samuel Calls Out Cam Newton, Browns Move On from Stefanski, NBA Headband Ban, Kokomo Murase’s 1620, + More

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Episode Overview

On this lively episode of Club Shay Shay Nightcap, Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson dig deep into the latest sports headlines—most notably, Asante Samuel’s viral criticism of Cam Newton’s legacy. The hosts break down the Cam Newton debate, reflect on how athletes’ careers are scrutinized, and discuss the tenuous nature of NFL coaching jobs with rumors surrounding Kevin Stefanski’s status in Cleveland. Additional topics include a quirky NBA uniform ban and a historic milestone in women’s snowboarding. The tone is candid, humorous, and occasionally introspective as the duo balance debate, sports insight, and their trademark banter.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Assante Samuel vs. Cam Newton: Was Cam a Game Changer?

Timestamps: 01:00–18:24

• Background:
  Asante Samuel tweeted that Cam Newton "was just a big guy that could run the ball—not much talent in that.” Cam, per the tweet, “cries” about not being signed and is “delusional” about his standing.
  Shannon and Chad debate Cam's legacy and Samuel's intent.

• The Debate:

  • Chad Johnson:
    "Cam Newton is more than just a game changer. He's one of the most prolific, dual-threat quarterbacks the NFL has ever seen... he was the face of a franchise." (01:31)
  • Shannon Sharpe:
    "Anyone you build your defense to stop, he's a game changer. Ever since he got in the league, we talked about stopping Cam Newton." (07:35)
    • Notes Cam was Rookie of the Year, MVP, led a team to the Super Bowl—achievements Romo, Orlovsky, and others didn't match.
    • Emphasizes difference between debating opinions versus attacking someone’s entire career: "Attack what I said, not my career. You don’t have to get personal." (09:50)
  • Social Commentary:
    Both note the nature of sports media—how opinions often spiral into personal attacks and content creation feuds.
    • "That's the time we're in now... this makes for great content... but we shouldn't get mad and attack Cam's career." (06:35, Chad/06:53, Shannon)
  • On Criteria and Perspective:
    "Maybe Asante's criteria for 'game changer' is different... but every DC faced with Cam from 2012–2018 game planned to stop him." (12:22, Shannon)
    • Chad: "He was damn near a one-man show at Auburn."

• Notable Quotes:

  • Shannon:
    "Ever since he got in the league, you stopped. We got to stop Cam Newton." (07:55)
  • Chad:
    "A blind man can see... the person teams game plan for is the game changer, and with Cam, it was always that." (10:32)

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2. Who Gets to Critique? Sports Media & Player Analysis

Timestamps: 02:21–06:53 / 32:00–36:10

• Debate over who is “qualified” to critique players. Shannon remarks on the hypocrisy—players want critiques from former athletes yet bristle at criticism.

  • "I thought, for the longest, we wanted guys that played the game to critique us. Now, if you didn't play quarterback, they say you can't critique quarterbacks." (03:32)

• Commentary on how quickly opinions become personal.

  • "It just got to the point now you can't have an opinion. If you do, they say you hating." (13:37)

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3. NFL Coaching Carousel: Stefanski Out in Cleveland

Timestamps: 21:17–25:24

• Reports suggest Kevin Stefanski is set to be fired by the Browns.

  • Chad Johnson:
    "He's a two-time Coach of the Year, but four losing seasons... egregious play calling." (21:49)
  • Shannon Sharpe:
    "There's this notion you're supposed to have a lifetime contract. That ain't sports." (22:10)
    • Gives examples: Kurt Warner (replaced after two MVPs), Tom Brady (not retained),
    • Covers lack of loyalty in sports from teams to coaches and players.

• Philosophical take:

  • Teams’ loyalty lasts only as long as players/coaches have value: "You can tell how loyal a team is to you when you’re no longer anybody." (24:53, Chad)

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4. NBA Bans Headband Around Neck

Timestamps: 25:24–29:17

• Jalen Suggs informed by the NBA he can’t wear a headband around his neck, sparking laughs about player style and hairlines.

  • Chad: "He must have lost a bet with God." (26:13)
  • Sharpe: “NBA is about uniformity, they're not going to let anything start.” (28:30)

• Humorous digressions on hair, beard transplants, dapper looks, and self-deprecation.

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5. Kokomo Murase Lands Historic 1620

Timestamps: 33:01–34:48

• Celebration of Kokomo Murase as the first woman to land a 1620 in competition.
  • "A trick no woman had ever landed before." (33:13, Shannon)
  • Chad: "We should go snowboarding—she's live on that board." (33:25)
• Banter about the cold and Miami life.

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6. NFL Player & Team Analysis: Listener Q&A

Timestamps: 41:02–62:00

• On Bryce Young’s Development: Both are measured—see improvement, but not ready to label him elite.

• On Saints, Panthers, and NFC Playoff Scenarios: Shannon clarifies playoff odds, positions, and needs.

• On the Difficulty of TV Commentary:

  • Shannon breaks down why live commentary is tough:
    "There's a difference between talking about what HAS happened, and talking about what's happening right now in real time. Romo, Brady, Collinsworth—they do that in 5-6-second bursts." (58:12)

• On Measuring Legacies:

  • Don’t diminish stars because they had help:
    "There are a lot of teams that had great defenses. You don't hold that against Terry Bradshaw. Joe Greene, Mel Blount... everyone had help." (61:00)

• On Participation Trophies & Championships:

  • "If everybody got to win a Super Bowl or make the Hall of Fame, what's special about it then?" (62:17, Shannon)

• On Style & Wealth:

  • Shannon defends Cam’s fashion, noting how people’s perspectives change with money:
    "You never know what you'd do until you're in that situation. Hard for me to believe if you had $20 million, you'd live and dress exactly the same." (55:28)

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7. Notable Humor & Memorable Moments

• Jokes on player hairlines, “pubic hair on your head,” and beard units for live shows (26:53–28:22).
• Dad joke highlight:
  • Chad: "How does a farmer count his cows? With a cow-culator." (41:40)
• Comparing Michael Irvin’s sideline antics to viral Elmo videos (66:12).
• Warm shoutouts to listeners’ kids on birthdays (43:43–44:40).

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Notable Quotes

• “Anyone you build your defense to stop, he's a game changer.” – Shannon Sharpe (07:35)
• "Cam Newton is one of the most prolific, dual-threat quarterbacks the NFL has ever seen." – Chad Johnson (01:31)
• "If you attack what I say, fine. But when you attack my career, now it's personal." – Shannon (09:50)
• "All that 'be loyal' stuff in the NFL—they don't care as long as you have value." – Chad (24:17)
• "If everybody got to go win the Super Bowl... what's special about it then?" – Shannon (62:21)
• "You never know what you'd do until you're in that situation.” – Shannon (55:28)

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• Assante Samuel vs. Cam Newton: 01:00–18:24
• Coaching Loyalty & Stefanski: 21:17–25:24
• NBA Headband Ban / Hair Jokes: 25:24–29:17
• Kokomo Murase’s 1620: 33:01–34:48
• Player Fashion/Wealth Commentary: 54:42–55:31
• Listener Q&A / Legacy Discussion: 41:02–62:37

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Episode Takeaways

• The Cam Newton debate reveals the nuance in evaluating athletes’ “game-changer” status—what criteria matter most, and who gets to judge?
• Critique is healthy for sports, but turning analysis into personal attacks doesn’t serve legacy or discussion.
• The NFL's loyalty is fleeting for both players and coaches—team success and business win out over sentiment.
• The episode blends sharp analysis, player insight, and comedy, with Shannon and Chad’s camaraderie coloring every topic.

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Summary Topics Covered:

• Cam Newton’s legacy and perceptions
• Influence/power of sports media personalities
• Fickle nature of NFL coaching jobs
• Athlete fashion, style, & culture
• Historic sports achievements
• Listener engagement, Q&A
• Player stats versus narratives

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For listeners seeking lively debate, real-player insight, classic trash talk, and plenty of laughs, this episode is a prime cut of what Club Shay Shay offers.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Ocho Asante Samuel tweeted he doesn't think Cam was a game changer. He tweeted, honestly, Cam Newton was a game changer. He was just a big guy that could run the ball. Not much talent in that.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, hey, now they finna go at it. Hey listen, this, this finna be classic, boy. This finna be classic. So you know, Cam gonna go on the 4th and 1 and he's gonna beefing a breakdown, whatever it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, Cam ain't letting nothing go. Cam ain't letting nothing go.

[Chad Johnson]

Nothing at all. But listen, I mean, Cam Newton is, is more, more than just a game changer. He's one of the most prolific quarterbacks, dual threat quarterbacks the NFL has ever seen. Obviously he did it at Auburn, he did it in the NFL, made it to a Super Bowl. Obviously wasn't able to accomplish, you know, that feat in winning one. But, but he was able to make it and he was the face. He was the face of a franchise. So I mean, I'm not sure you know what's going on with Zon and Cam, but I. I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is what he also added. I'm on Cam neck. I don't want to hear him talk down to no one on none of the top quarterbacks. Let's ride tag Cam. You could have tagged it.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, you think? You think? Maybe because he's been talking about Jalen Hurts and stuff like that. So he, I guess that's what it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He said Cam cries. No one wants to sign him because he thinks he's like that. So delusional. Cam, you. You can run because your big brother. How many years was Cam a game changer? Please tell me. Maybe one year. This notion. Well, if that's the case, only Tom Brady, Manning, Elway, Marino, Montana can talk about any quarterbacks. If that's. What if. If we're just. If we're just going to allow the top quarterbacks to talk about top quarterbacks. Ain't nobody could be on tv. Nobody but Tom Brady. Only Tom Brady, because he's the only one that's on television. I think Drew. I think Drew's calling games now.

[Chad Johnson]

Tony. Tony Romo. I mean, he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, Tony Romo was no. Damn here. You think he could. He could talk about quarterbacks? Not a camp.

[Chad Johnson]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And see, that, that's with a Rookie of the Year. A rookie of the year, an MVP lead a team to the super bowl. And Romo never led a team to an NFC Championship game. Oh, hell no.

[Chad Johnson]

You're right. You're right. But. But hold on. Well, Dan. Dan Arlovski does it. Dan does it. If Dan can do it, then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then I. I don't have any problems. Because guys that played the game, you could be. But I thought for the longest we wanted guys to play the game, to be able to critique us. You guys, they used to hate that guy that never played the game was talking about people that was actually playing the game. What is this? I thought, because when I first got to cbs, they make it seem like because I didn't play the quarterback position, I couldn't have an opinion on the quarterbacks. No, I don't. I guess he said. Because I guess. I guess Asante heard that Cam said that he doesn't think Drake May is a game changer.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So, son, coming to the defensive Drake.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, are we not allowed to have opinions?

[Chad Johnson]

We are. We are.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can say, I believe Chase is the best receiver. Man, you hating on Jetta. You hate. No. Jsn.

[Chad Johnson]

No, no, no, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why can't I think. Why? I mean, the whole thing, the way this thing works, it only works. Television, radio, pods. Only works if you just go say, I take both of them. Well, anybody. Anybody at the water cooler that's getting water at the time can say that you want people that's played the game that's played on the. And you can disagree with that person, but you want. What do they think? There's a reason why you tune into these shows. There's a reason why you might not like him, but you tune in to hear what they're gonna say even if you just so you can criticize it. That's the way it is. I look, I ain't got no problem. You, you weren't that good. I, I've said it before. I think the two best tight ends to ever play the game was Kelsey and Gron. I give a slight nod to Kelsey because I've never seen someone be as clutch. I mean, you look at his numbers, the seven 1,000 yard seasons for a tight end. Seven, seven. He had an opportunity to get eight, but he sought out so he could have had. That's what a ride receiver does. You look at the catches, you look at the yards, you look at the touchdowns production. Yeah, he and Gronk, big time, they came up in big moments and that's why I give them the nod. No tight ends came through in big moments when it mattered the most, more than those two guys. And I think, look, I love Gates, I think Gates on Mount Rushmore, Ozzy and Big Kellen Gonzo. But I got no problem. I did what I did.

[Chad Johnson]

I like, hey listen, I, I, but.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't, I don't have, I don't have a, I don't have a problem, I don't have a problem guys having an opinion. And I don't think we should get mad and, and, and just call Cam. Hey, Cambra, I, I, I don't agree with that one. And then maybe go on Cam show or Cam can come.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, obviously this is, this is the time that we're in now, huh? This makes for great content. This makes for great content. And now we get to have a verbal war based on opinions where Asante doesn't agree with Cam. And Cam's gonna fire back at Asante based on what he thinks in his view.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But if, if Asante really felt like that, he should have tagged Cam. Don't say somebody tag him. You tag him. You said it.

[Chad Johnson]

That's the whole point. That's the whole point. I don't want to tag him. I want them to tag him because.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That is the, oh, oh, you want him to hear about it. You, so you, so in other words, you want to hey, you whistling but you, hey, when it come.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want, I want everybody to jump in on this thing. Get, get, get the ball rolling. Listen, it's, it's great, it's content, Content creating. That's all it is. And I, I like, I like it, I like it. I can't wait to see what Cam come back with them, them Two. They f. To go back at it for a while.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo you can have that. But why would you try to attack Cam's career? You see, you can have an opinion, but now you attacking. When was, when was he a game changer? Ever since he got in the league, you stop. We got to stop Cam Newton. I look at anybody that you build your defense to stop. He's a game changer.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely. I mean, of course. Of course he was the game changer. Maybe, maybe he used the. The wrong. The wrong word. Because when you think of Cam Newton.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He said, how many years was Cam a game changer? Please tell me. Maybe one. Teams built their off, beat their. Built their defense to stop Cam.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah, that's gonna be interesting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, that's his opinion. I thought, I thought Cam was unbelievable. Got that team to a Super Bowl. They got to the playoffs. He was rookie of the year. He's the first quarterback. He's the only quarterback. His first two games, he threw for over 400 yards. As a matter of fact, those are the only two times he's ever thrown for 400 yards. With his first two games of his career as a rookie, there ain't a whole lot of rookies that's ever thrown for 400 yards, let alone open the season a rookie of the year or mvp. Well, like I said, he can have his opinion, critique what Cam said. But then when you start seeing. Here's the thing. When you start. When you. If I was like, oh, man, Ocho, man, I don't know. I think I got this guy over Ocho, man. Ocho ain't went with one promo. Ocho ain't having one all pro. Now I'm attacking Ocho problem. Now I'm attacking Ocho's career. It's not about Ocho's career. Attack. What I said, I don't gotta attack Ocho personally. I ain't gotta attack no one's personally. If I got a different opinion, I ain't gotta. I gotta take it. Attack him personally. That's. That's the only thing. He has the right to say whatever he wants to say. He has a platform, and that's why you see a lot more of these platforms popping up. Because guys want their voices heard. They want their opinion heard. Where I. Where I. You know, I' ma sit this one out. When you start tackling the man's career personally. Hey, someone that face camelot with Gerald McCoy, he was a game changer his entire career until 2018 versus Pittsburgh when he tore his shoulder up. He was never the same after that. We played again. We planned all about him. Not the scheme. The scheme was basic. He was the scheme. The couple of years he played with Steve, we game plan for him. But, but after that, even with Greg mean Greg Olsen, good. Our only focus was Cam. He played with young C Max, so it wasn't him yet. But Dog stepped his foot on the league and as a game changer, people forget what he was doing, man. Go watch him versus the Patriots in 2013 and you tell me he wasn't a game.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, you know, Cam was him. Cam was him. Yeah. A blind, a blind man can see that. So the game changer thing, I mean, it's ridiculous. When he was the franchise, he was that guy for a very, for, for a very long time. And obviously the person that is the game changer is the one that the teams have the game plan for. And when you play the Carolina Panthers when Cam Newton was a quarterback, your game planning. Yes, stop him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Stop Cam. Absolutely. Absolutely. Now just because he ain't had no Tom Brady or no Peyton Manning or no Ben Roethlisberger career doesn't mean he's a game changer. He wasn't a game changer.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, his game was completely different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First of all, everybody doesn't have, how I want to say this, like Brady and, and, and, and, and Jerry. Normally they're peaks. Ocho you have about the really, really good players that have a five, probably about a five to a seven year window, eight year window where they're here. You get a guy like a Jerry and he got 15 years of here. You get Brady who got like 20 years here. I mean that's normally how it goes. It's hard. Aaron Donald was the only guy that came in whipping ass, left whipping ass and say I'm done whipping ass. But everybody, everybody don't have no career.

[Chad Johnson]

Like you know what else, you know what else you would need to ask is, you would have to, you would have to understand also for Asante to say what he's saying. What's his criteria for being a game changer? Maybe, maybe his criteria might be different than everyone else's. Where he feels Cam wasn't a game changer, so his criteria might be different. So I mean, hey, listen, it's so many layers to that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If they trying to stop, if they trying to stop you, if they build their game plan to stop you, I guaranteed you, I guarantee you everybody that faced the Carolina Panthers. So the better question was, let's go ask defensive coordinators. So when you played the Carolina Panthers from 2012 until 20, let's just say 2018. What was your mission? Stop Tom. I mean, stop Cam.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, that means that, that, that's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The man got to the Pro Bowl. Look at his receivers that he took to the Pro Bowl.

[Chad Johnson]

I, I, we know it. I didn't want to go there. I ain't want to, I ain't want to go there, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna let you do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, he was almost, he was damn near one man show, huh? Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was damn.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, he was the one man show at Auburn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. Tell me, how many of those offensive guys played in the NFL?

[Chad Johnson]

Damn, that's good. That's a good one. I can't, I can't remember that whole squad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, I just think the thing, look, it's, it's just got to the point now that you really can't have an opinion. If you have an opinion, they say you hating. So me, I'm gonna keep on hating because when y' all look at it resume complete, go punch holes in it. Well, you didn't catch no ocho. You don't tell me. Well, you ain't cabba like five, six passes in the Super Bowl. What game was that? How many passes I caught in what game? Oh, oh, that one. Okay, what's the objective? Oh, okay. All I know is you go look at the 90s. Go see who the all decade team for the 90s are.

[Chad Johnson]

You, you on there, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I bet you the guy from Savannah State on there.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That'S all I, I. Hey, all that other stuff, I don't know, I don't know who the Titan was in the 80s. Well, I think, I think it was Kellen and Ozzy. Y' all say whatever, but when I left Ojo, you see all these? I had all the records. I had all of them. Most yards, most catches, most touchdowns, most yards in the game, most Pro Bowls, most All Pro I had now. Yeah, somebody came and got it. Just like Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson used to have all the records. Now Taylor Swift and, and Drake and the weekend have passed him. That's all I know.

[Chad Johnson]

I got me some records too. Now you know, Hey, I want you. I went too shabby during my day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now you got six promos.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got all three of them.

[Chad Johnson]

I got three all Priya. Yeah, yeah, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got, I got what we, what they talking about?

[Chad Johnson]

I got all the records with the Bangles at the receiver. Shoot. What we talking about? I think Chase, Chase, Chase gonna break that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, but guess what, Ocho? You had them. There are a lot of people. They had no records to break.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on now, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Such as? Like, okay, I get okay. You want to say such and such better than me? I ain't gonna argue, Gronk. Whoever you say. Now, what about you?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, somebody said I ain't got no ring, though. Hold on, hold on. I do got a ring. What you talking about? What? Boy, look at this, boy. You see this? You see that right there? Somebody ain't got this. Ain't no super bowl worth this. What you talking about, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, hold on. But you see what they do, Ocho? You see how they did what they do you now, when you. When you win, when you. If you win, they say Subo is a team goal. Okay?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Somebody in the chat just said you ain't got no ring, boy. I got me one right here, boy. Cost more than any super bowl ring boy. Stop playing on me, boy. You see this? Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That.

[Chad Johnson]

You see that? Huh? That oval cut, man, stop playing me, boy. What you talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. But my thing. I look, like I said, I don't have any problem with Cam critiquing quarterbacks. I don't have any problem with Asante Samuels. But just. Let's just a talk about what Cam said. Don't talk about Cam's career because he. I mean, you don't. I mean, do I have to be. I ain't no doctor, but I know my damn head hurt. I don't know. I ain't no doctor. Ain't with not one med school. But don't you. I know when I'm sick now, I might not know to do the extent of my sickness, but I know I'm sick. So if you want to critique somebody, look, I was the same. I was like, man, that's your bro. What do you. You talking all this talk. What did you do? Those that can do, those that can't, teach. Okay? But after being in this space, I'm.

[Chad Johnson]

Like, let everybody have their opinion right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who am I to say what they can or can't say? Have your opinion. I may disagree with your opinion. We might have a differing of opinions based on my experience. Based on. And that's. That's all. What Ocho and I really try to do is that we try to take a situation. I was feel. I felt real comfortable talking about Trayvon Diggs because I had seen similar situations. And what irks me about people that's a grown man, he should they not go into the playoffs. He should be Alive, Bro, it don't work like that. When you on college, you can't do what you. That's that street stuff. We need to stop with that foolish. You sound ridiculous.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, hold on, Unc. And not when you're making that kind of money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Money.

[Chad Johnson]

You got to play the game different. You got to play the game within the game. Yes, that's all. That's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But like I said, Asante. I ain't got no problem with Asante. He got up. He got upset with us, Ocho. We was talking about him. In time. That's his opinion. He has an opinion that, you know, he thinks Drake May is a game changer. Cam does not critique what Cam said. Okay? This is why I don't think Cam is correct. When I look at Drake May and I look at what he's done. X, Y, and Z. But the moment you bring in Cam's career, you trying to. Trying to invalidate him and try to make his. His opinion less valid. And that's where. That's where you lose me with that, Ocho. I ain't no. I ain't no. No foreign policy expert. Expert. But I know what happened last night. Late last night or early this morning. And everybody know why it happened.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't worry about it.

[Chad Johnson]

You know how many. You know how many barrels they got out there, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That'S why they did it. It was never about no fentanyl. It was never about no cocaine.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on, now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the man stepped to the mic and told you why. So they got oil, and we got it, and we gonna run it. And our company is Exxon Mobil, Chevron. We not gonna talk about politics.

[Chad Johnson]

But I can see. I can see. Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody can see.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, the biggest gangsters in the world.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I just hate that. I don't. I don't. I don't like. I don't like that. Because I wonder how we would feel if somebody in Russia with Putin or gping or China came in and tried to snatch and say, you know what? We don't want him. We want X.

[Chad Johnson]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's go. Cleveland Browns appear to have said to hire new coach.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Kevin Stefans getting the Browns appeared destined for a breakup as of Saturday. According to Jonathan Jones of CBS Sports, there have been increasing buzz in recent days that Stefanski will likely be fired by by the Browns. Terry Pluto of the cleveland.com added, Yes, I believe Stefanski will be fired. I don't know that for a fact. With the Browns, things can always change. I'd be shocked if Stefan came back. My prediction if Andrew Barry remains as the GM runs the draft in 2026, Stefanski ends up coaching elsewhere next season.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I mean un. You, you couldn't see this coming. I mean sure everyone else can see it. I know he's a two time coach of the year, but four, four losing seasons. Some of some of the most, some of some of the most egregious play calling in decision making this year. Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that's what, that's what baffled me. This notion that somehow you're supposed to have a a lifetime contract. Now we've seen that now if you Tom Brady, Tom Brady should have been able to play. Tom Brady should have been. If he wanted to play right now, he should have been allowed to. But we know that's not how it works in sport. Look at I get. Look at the St. Louis Rams when they're in St. Louis. Kurt Warner was a two time league MVP. A Super Bowl MVP. Taking a team to two Super Bowls. They moved on. Got Mark Bolger.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, hey this, hey this business.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tom Brady as great as he was. 20 years, nine Super bowl appearances, six wins with four MVPs.

[Chad Johnson]

They don't. They don't play no matter who you are. That's why I don't understand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Normally that's reserved for coaches. Ocho a Coach Smith a coach K Coach Summit. I have, I had the great opportunity to meet Coach Summit a couple of times in New York and she was flying back. Who's that Normally if you don't run a file, you don't do anything crazy. Coach Schembechler stayed as long as he wanted in Michigan. Coop. John, I think, was Cooper. Wasn't he the coach at Ohio State? But he could have stayed until they threw that pick in the Gator bowl and he swung on Guy from Clemson. They said, nah, Coach, you gotta go. You gotta go. Woody Hayes. Woody Hayes. That's who it was. Coach Hayes. But for the most part, Ocho, they allow you to stay. Especially in college. You know, the drummer started getting a little loud for Coach Bowden. They started getting a little loud for Coach Joe Paul because they felt that he oversaw and he knew things and he allowed it to happen. X, Y and Z. But for the most part, yeah, you.

[Chad Johnson]

Know, it's the way it is. Hey, this is a business, especially in the NFL, as players. You know, fans always preach all this, be loyal and all that. Man, listen, man, stop playing. Them folk don't care nothing about you as long as you. As long as you of a value.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Value.

[Chad Johnson]

As long as you have a value.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All time leave Russia. What did he do for service? I think Emmett played his last two years elsewhere. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Arizona, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He did.

[Chad Johnson]

Arizona.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I read something, Ocho. They said you can find. You can tell of a woman how loyal a woman is by. If the man doesn't have any time. Now, you can tell a man how loyal he is to a woman if he has everything. Take your time so you'll find out how loyal a team is to you.

[Chad Johnson]

When you're no longer anybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All of a sudden you can't produce. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Boy, it ain't even Sunday, you talking like that. Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That would. They say I don't know how to chad women. You're gonna be loyal to the man if he don't have anything. Man, will you be loyal to the woman if you have everything?

[Chad Johnson]

Come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause you already know if you ain't got nothing, you ain't gonna be able to get. You ain't gonna be able to get what you got today.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, that's a different type of show.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, One day we have. We. Ocho, Jalen Suggs has been informed by the NBA he can no longer wear a headband around his neck.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean. I mean, I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you might. Well, go ahead and shave all that.

[Chad Johnson]

Thing and let it go. Wait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey. Oh, Joe. He got a joint. He got the windows up on the side.

[Chad Johnson]

A young bull got a Jordan Jefferson, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

How old. How old is he? How old, Mr. Sug?

[Shannon Sharpe]

About 24, 25.

[Chad Johnson]

For real? How old is he? He is like 24 with his hair growing back like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, it is. He is.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, they might. He must be. He must have lost a bet or something, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, it ain't no bet. Cause you see how thin it is on the top.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I think it's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He must have lost a bet with God.

[Chad Johnson]

I think his teammates made him do that, huh, Ocho?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, that's his hair. His hair is really thinning in the top like that.

[Chad Johnson]

At 24. Yes. Hey, he got to go to Turkey, huh? You know, Turkey. Turkey got the. The King of Trent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they got that thing in Turkey.

[Chad Johnson]

I. I wish they. I wish they had whatever. Whatever method, whatever procedure it is they have in Turkey. I wish somebody here in the States did it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They have it, but the follicles just cost me.

[Chad Johnson]

For real?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. So it's the same. All they doing is take it from the back and put.

[Chad Johnson]

I ain't got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the only thing.

[Chad Johnson]

I got a problem. I ain't even got in the back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you. I s. H. Well, you definitely don't want no pubic hair on your head, do you?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you know what? I know what's funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, Chad Ultra wolf head. Go. Go have a folk with pubic hair.

[Chad Johnson]

Honestly. Honestly, what I would love to do. I don't know if it's possible. I would love to grow my beard out right? You see how you growing yours out? So yours. Yeah, your. Your stuff is on point. Every. Every time I see people talk about your beard, all the women. Oh, you look good. Oh, look at the salt and pepper. I like this look on you, but my mind grow patchy, so. Mine growing patches. It don't. It don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, so it. It won't connect.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't like that. So if I. If I had a way to get some type of procedure like where I can get to connect where it look like Rick Ross or like Freeway or like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like James Harden, you know, the hair on your face is different than the hair on your head.

[Chad Johnson]

No, but I'm just saying. Listen, if we can make it to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The moon, you might have to go and get that unit. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you know, I'm. I'mma do the unit for the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But the thing is, you do realize now that that's. That's glue that they got to stick on your face.

[Chad Johnson]

That's all right. I'mma do it for the. For the live show. We going tour. I'mma have. Hey, I'm Hey, I'mma have a beer with the waves and all. With. With the waves. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, man, Ojo man, you gonna have a lint all in your hair.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. I'm gonna look every bit of 23 too now. Don't play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, but look, the NBA. The NBA. Look, they're not gonna start this here. The one thing, the NBA gonna have uniformity. NFL's gonna have uniformity. MLB, they'll let you wear your pants. You can wear them up high, you can wear them down low, whatever the case may be. But, but the NFL, you're not going to come out there and try to start. No, no.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, I think it's a little bit more lenient, I think, when it comes to fashion and, and style based on your dress code. But I think, yeah, the, the, the. The wristband around the neck, they gonna draw the line there. They gonna draw the line there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And hey, eventually he gonna have to be like LeBron. You see how LeBron just let it go? LeBron said, I'm tired of it.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, he cut it off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He cut it down low.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. It's basically a skin fade all the way. Hey, it happened, bro. So you won't. You want a head full of hair. So he won't. So, so LeBron. So LeBron want to be able to play. Be as great as he is, play as long as he have, and then have Bob Marley dreads. God, if he'll give you all that. Damn.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, he can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bad. But. No, it. It just happens. I mean, my brother started losing his hair like in his probably late 20s, early 30s. Hey, I.

[Chad Johnson]

You know what's funny is I cut my hair, but I can grow a full. A full set of hair. A full head of hair. My bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't. I don't see how people that have waves or I don't see. I don't see how they enjoy the maintenance that is so. That's so. What's the word I'm looking for? It's such an inconvenience to me having to put waves. Brush your hair, then put the wave cap. You got to train your hair to lay down. Like, I ain't got time. Listen, I wanna. I wanna get up and just go. I don't wanna have to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't wanna have to brush the beard. So much work for a beard. I did the same thing, Ocho. It's the same thing. You gotta wash and condition in your beard. You gotta put a bill sal, you know, conditioner and then you gotta put oil.

[Chad Johnson]

I just clean me up, you know, when I got a bald head, when my face clean uncle, I look every bit of 24. I look. I look 24. You know, I still, I still, I still get carded, you know, which is I still get carded. So that lets me know I'm doing something right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, I want to keep it, you know, once I got. What? What's the day? The day? The third. The day the third?

[Chad Johnson]

No, it's the fourth. It's the fourth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Happy birthday. The day. My mom's birthday. The day the fourth. The day the third.

[Chad Johnson]

Today. The fourth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? Well, it's the fourth where you are. It's the third where I am today. My mom's birthday. Happy birthday.

[Chad Johnson]

Happy birthday, Mom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't called me back either.

[Chad Johnson]

She.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you. How you not gonna call me back? I call and wish you happy birthday. You don't call me back.

[Chad Johnson]

She would. How you know she watching?

[Shannon Sharpe]

She ain't watching, but I'm just putting on blast cuz she ain't call me back. She probably was in the casino in Indiana somewhere. She'll call because she ain't get no money. Oh no, she did. Let me take that back. She did get her money. The direct deposit hit. So that's why she ain't called. I should have held out. I get her to get her to call me, she'd have called me. If I shadow, you know, my money ain't hit today. That's all right. I get you Ocho talking about. Man, that's a joke. Nah, that ain't no joke, Ocho. It's just.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Johnson]

Oh, they did. She did a 1260.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She did a 1620.

[Chad Johnson]

My bad. 1620.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is a trick no woman had ever landed before.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, that's very difficult. That's very. They. That's very difficult to do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, considering she's the first woman to do it, I'm assuming it is very difficult.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, we should. We should go snowboarding. Hey, that's live on the board, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What kind of board?

[Chad Johnson]

Skateboard? Hoverboard? Any. Any kind of board, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you don't give me my water, you don't give me my money, they're gonna see you on the waterboard.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey, I thought.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what waterboard is, don't you?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, that's what the army. That's how they. When they interrogate people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's what. That's where I got it from.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I know. I know how to. I know how to survive that, huh? So when you. Hey, my face. And you pour water. I didn't drink the water.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't drink that water. You bless your organs.

[Chad Johnson]

No, no, I know how to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can only drink so much water and see the thing, is it gonna be going up your nose too, though.

[Chad Johnson]

You don't know, huh? I was a Navy SEAL. I trained. I trained with Navy SEALs for six months. And I learned how. If I was kidnapped and interrogated, how was how I could survive the waterboarding?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Guess what? You need to be a real SEAL to be able to hold your breath for 30 minutes underwater. Damn, the David seal. You need to be a real seal. Congratulations, Man. Nah. Oh, this is cold, man. I don't like being cold.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man, come on, man. Every. Every. Everything we do. Don't have to be, you know. You know, and just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, you don't got old. When you get old, Ocho, you don't deal the cold. Well, I'm not old as you. Stay your black ass in Miami.

[Chad Johnson]

I love the Colo. Anything out of 20 degrees, you don't love it enough. Somebody that loves anything under 20 degrees, sign me up for it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Move to Cincinnati.

[Chad Johnson]

What about my kids?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Moved it with you. You say they stayed with you before?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I'm taking everybody to court. I want custody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? Well, you have to do what you feel old.

[Chad Johnson]

French fries. She in Dubai? You know, she just turned four.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you had it for Christmas, Ocho. Damn, you had it for Christmas.

[Chad Johnson]

Supposed to be with me on her birthday because I had plans for us on her birthday, and she out there in Dubai.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, you can't get every holiday.

[Chad Johnson]

I can. Hey, nine months. I. I. Nine months. I can't. I carry that. Nine months.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I appreciate that, but when you go to a judge, he go alternate holidays. He go alternate birthday.

[Chad Johnson]

No, he ain't, cuz. I want full custody. I want full custody. What? I ain't even playing. I'm ready to go to war. I'm ready to go to war.

[Shannon Sharpe]

By my love, how do you understand how egregious a mother has to be for the court system to give over full custody to the father? I mean, do you understand the hurdle you got?

[Chad Johnson]

I understand. I understand I probably ain't gonna win, but I. I just. I just. I just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just.

[Chad Johnson]

I just want to go through it. I just want to go through it, let her know. Let her know I ain't playing about mine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Only person that's gonna be happy that you doing that is the attorney. Got them billable hours.

[Chad Johnson]

If you ain't got yours, you think they gonna get theirs?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? Oh, yeah. Yeah. They put a lean on. They put a lean on you. They put a lean on you. Oh, it's time to play a fave presented by prize picks.

[Chad Johnson]

I can't wait to the game tomorrow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Miles Garrett, point 75 sacks. Miles Garrett will have a sack tomorrow.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, Miles Garrett will get the sack record. Matter of fact, he might get two tomorrow. I'm just. I don't want to get against my Bengals. I don't want to make history against us, but he probably will do it. And the fact that I'm getting the jersey that he gets the sack record in, that makes me feel even better. Listen, I was supposed to fly out to the game, man. I missed my.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I thought you was going to.

[Chad Johnson]

The game, like, this morning, man. I say, man, forget that. I ain't. I ain't going. I ain't going because I'm tired. I just got back from the Bahamas. I slept all day on Friday. I like. Nah, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I gotta travel to Brazil. I gotta travel to Brazil the 12th through the 14th. Like, you know what? Let me get as much rest as I can not jump on a plane, then have to fly back to Miami, then jump on the plane 12 to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The 14th of what?

[Chad Johnson]

February, January.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We gotta be in New York in jail on the 11th. Oh, so it's the 14th through the 16th. Oh, but the thing is, on the. The 12th, right? The 13th.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, well, you got the dates wrong.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got the dates wrong. You say 11 through the 14th. We got to be with the Tyler Shook. 232 passing yards, more or less.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, they playing the Falcons, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Playing the Dirty Birds the way.

[Chad Johnson]

The way the Falcon got at the. Where that Falcon didn't get after the quarterback. Yeah, man, they. Hey, they made staff look like. Like I. I don't want to say nothing bad because he played well all season long outside of that game, but if they can play the way they played against the goddamn Rams, I don't see him getting no 232. Chris Olave not playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, we going less there. Brian Thomas more than three receptions. Brian Thomas will have at least four receptions.

[Chad Johnson]

That's tough. I mean, everything been so up and down, it's been by committee with that offense over there, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. Because now you got Jacoby Myers playing well. Strange. The tight end has been playing well. Oh, I got Parker Washington.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Throw the atn. I'mma go. I'm gonna say he has four.

[Chad Johnson]

You think so? Okay, I like it. I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, Riley Leonard, who will start for the Indianapolis Colts, will have less than 163 yards.

[Chad Johnson]

Who the coach playing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? The Jags, man.

[Chad Johnson]

He's gonna get himself killed out there, man. And that's with all due respect, he's gonna get himself killed. Especially if they can't get goddamn Jonathan Taylor going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they play tax. Oh, oh, he definitely not get that. Play the Texans. What you call them? The Jags play. The coach don't hold on. The Jags play who? The Jag play the Titans. Okay, Titans. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Ain't. Ain't looking good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Riley Leonard not getting that one.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, Jaguars or the Texas? He wasn't getting it either way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

25 to win $125. Download the app today. Use code SHANNON to get 50 in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup prize fix. It's good to be right. All right, we're gonna get out here on this, Ocho. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A matter of fact.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, I'll wait to just go back. I got one. You know, you. You grew up in the country.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You grew up on the farm. I did.

[Chad Johnson]

So since you know about farming and stuff like that. You knew about cows. How does a farmer. What does the farmer use to count as cows?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What does he use? They normally put tags on eggs.

[Chad Johnson]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. What do you mean, no?

[Chad Johnson]

That's not what a farmer uses.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What he use There you go.

[Chad Johnson]

Calcul.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I notice.

[Chad Johnson]

You get it a calculator.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, I do get.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, that was a good one. That was a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that was classic.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I'm. I'm going to get me a Netflix special for dad jokes, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, a Netflix special. Straight dad jokes. Oh, that was funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jags play. Okay, Jags play the text play the Titans and Houston playing the Colts. I don't know why I was thinking the Jags would go play. Oh, they played the Colts last week. Kimber Norwood Jr. Man, UNC Ocho highlights are more excited than the 49ers defense. Man, the 49ers didn't have it tonight. They didn't. They did not have it tonight. Give the. Give the the Seahawks credit. Their defense, their offense was clicking on all cylinders and. And, and Sam Darnold didn't turn the football over. They're gonna be a tough out. They're gonna be a tough out. L. Prate98ocho Happy birthday to French fry. Would you gentlemen please wish my daughter Lamia a happy birthday? She turned six. My girls love you guys. Whenever the show comes on, they scream hey dad. Ocho and them are on. Yes, Lamia, happy birthday. Hopefully you have some fun. Cake, ice cream, some balloons. Got an opportunity to go to Chuck E. Cheese, do all the fun things that little six year old girls love to do. Got a makeup kit, got some dolls, easy makeup. And I don't even know they make easy bake of anymore, but if they did, hopefully you got one. Happy sixth birthday, Lamia.

[Chad Johnson]

Happy birthday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

True and inf infamous. The number one seed, baby. Also, Sam Darnold didn't turn the ball over once. If he continues to play like this. You're absolutely right. That's the only thing that really concerns me, scares me about you guys is that he has 20 turnovers turn the ball over in the playoffs. Beast. You know, Eagles Bears play 49 to play the Rams again. Probably gonna go home because even if it's not a scooping score, you might be might, you know, take points off the board or you might sit put your defense harm's way by setting the the opposing offense up on a short field. Goldberg 800. So the Eagles don't have a defense either, bro, please. Seattle got a good offense and Philly got a good defense. Both defenses are playing all time high. I trust my quarterback over Sam. Yeah, when your quarterback's playing well. But he hadn't played well this year.

[Chad Johnson]

And you never know what listen that the Eagles this year they've Been up and down, They've been up and down. They've been inconsistent. You don't know which offense you're gonna get. Defense has been steady the whole time, but you just never know what office you could get depending on who you playing. And if you're playing the Seahawks, which has a really good defense, that's where the difficulties come into play. Where. What Eagles offense am I going to get today?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And, and, and the Eagles offensive line. No, Lane. I don't know if Lane Johnson gonna be back. I don't know. Maybe they, they activate him or whatever the case may be. But the offensive line has not been as dominant. They haven't been able to run the football and I don't know if you can keep. If you can keep them guys off you if you can' and we saw that tonight. Purdy was under immense pressure because they had no ability to run the football with McCaffrey and Robinson. So you got your work cut out for him. But hey, if, if that matchup were to happen, I look forward to it. Ocho for Miami tourism here. My wife and I checked out the Mai Kai restaurant on your recommendation and it was affordable and an absolute blast.

[Chad Johnson]

I told you, I told you. Anything. Listen, anything I ask you to do when you come to Miami is going to be affordable because I live way below my means. Therefore our lifestyles are completely the same. So when it comes to having a good time, I'm always going to give you things that you can enjoy. The Mai Chef's kiss for nothing. So next time you come back, I got some more places you got to try that are a blast.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shook for offensive rookie of the year up. What do you think about my Saints drafting Jeremiah Love with the first pick? And Ocho, I'll give you the belt in Madden or College Football 26. Yeah, look, they gonna get a running back now. I don't know if they're gonna take one in the first round, but they're gonna get a running back out of this draft. Who knows? There might be one available who knows. Javonte Williams. If the Cowboys don't resign him, he'll be available. He'll be a nice pick. There will be some guys. Rico Dowdle. We'll see what Carolina does with him. All that being said, I don't know if they'll take a running back in the first round, but they're definitely going to get a running back. I don't see a scenario where Alvin Camara is back. They need a running back. Probably get an offensive lineman. There's Some look the Saints they're like look the way we're playing. I believe they think they got their quarterback. Ocho. They got a lot of. They got Juan Johnson get a running back office line. They might be in biz. They might be in biz. Hey Ocho, when are the podcast Olympics and will we see Johnny at quarterback? Hopefully you read this. Otherwise I'll beat up Ocho. Love the show. Are we looking at late, late spring early.

[Chad Johnson]

Well that's gonna be so hey listen. That's gonna be one for the ages, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

OG underscore Thanos 26 will the Panthers pick up Bryce Young fifth year option and, and in this game where Brandon IU would have made an impact. Yes, I think that's what they're going to do. They're more apt to pick up the fifth year option instead of making a long term 200, 250, $300 million. Let's, let's see, let's see if he can play. He has some positive sense. They had some, some lows. I mean he threw for 266 today. Not bad given those conditions. But he's had a 400 yard game. He's play. He's played extremely well in spots this year. Let's, let's, let's, let's let this thing play out. I mean it's not like 20, $26 million is chump change.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean listen, it's, listen, it's chump change based on what the top quarterbacks are making on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct. But like you said, you don't believe he's the top quarterback. So he shouldn't command that.

[Chad Johnson]

No, he safe. 30, 35.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I mean I don't think, I don't think either one of us will have him in the top 15.

[Chad Johnson]

No, but he's good for the Carolina Panthers. He's good for what they're trying to do. All they have to do is continue to build peace around him. They gonna be all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Caleb Robinson 6605 Seattle. Defense is sensational. Happy for Sam Darnold. Finally won a big game. Love this show. Thank you guys. Yes. He needed this one. Look he put together. Cause he did, you know, remember what he did to the Rams on that Thursday night. Came back, made some big time throws, turned the ball over. But he made some big time throws. But this was the game. Cause this was for the number one seed and the division. So he put the bed. That's the thing, you know, you don't put, you put it to bed. But it's not over. Because guess what? Got the playoffs and he got to perform in those situations as well. Dandy handyman. If Ocho and to did a full NFL combat right now, who would win.

[Chad Johnson]

Me to a tio in shape too? Boy, Tio, you know, Theo played football full time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, I, you know what? I heard him say that somewhere.

[Chad Johnson]

And I, he tell you, I'm talking about, he take it. I'm talking about serious, serious.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that's all, that's all t o know how to do. He ain't gonna do nothing that he.

[Chad Johnson]

Ain'T gonna take.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or do anything. You play pickleball?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I play pickleball, but you know, I'm a soccer guy. On the weekends I play. I play soccer like, you know, a football field. Our regular field. I play on the big field. Yeah, I play up top. I'm the striker. Sometimes I play on the wing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gary Morrell, 1882 which is better if the Saints lose to the Panthers go in. But if the Bucks win. Go in. But if the Saints win. Shook and the replacements are the Saints and NFC easily. Stop. The Saints can't make the playoffs. It's between, it's between Carolina and Tampa. So there's nothing the Saints can do that can get into the playoffs. If the Saints win at atla, Carolina goes. If the Saints lose, Tampa goes. Those are the only two scenarios, bro. I'm sorry. T.S. t.S. Car wise detail. NFL MVP right now. Yeah, I would say yokis too, but he's gonna miss too many games. He's not gonna. He's gonna probably be under the 65 game threshold.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you can't win. You can't win mvp. You can't get any all honors or anything like that.

[Chad Johnson]

Gonna win it then. I could tell you that he right. Probably should Shay gonna win it again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right? Right. Okay. Yeah. The Bucks need the Saints to win. If the Saints win, the Bucks are in. If the Falcons win, Carolina, you know.

[Chad Johnson]

Carolina gonna be in. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let'S go. Hey, man, you know that that's a matchup. Hey, they don't love. Yeah, man. You know how Atlanta and Saints feel about each other.

[Chad Johnson]

They hate each other, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bands for Zion Cliff got to go. D.C. seattle did a cliffy that one day five Kingsberry now commanders 14 personnel, one running back, four tight ends. No wide receivers. Apologize. I mean, you've been hearing that a lot lately. But look, Cliff can only do so much. JD Got to stay healthy. He's another fed a thread frame quarterback. But he's got to stay healthy. His rookie year, he stayed healthy. They went to the end of the amazing game this year. He was in and out of the lineups. Mariota is a good backup, but you're not going anywhere with Mariota. Pj11, OG from the Ravens. Fan. Another. Please help me understand how the defense is so bad when they go crazy 8 in practice in training camp. Bring me Flores or Jesse Miller. Give Harbaugh the boot. They can't rush the quarterback. And when you can't rush the quarterback, your back end is not that good. Not that good to write home about anyway. So now it gets exacerbated.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, it's. And that. That'll.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They. They. They're tied in front four, back four. They work hand in hand. And right now the front four is not good enough.

[Chad Johnson]

Yep. It don't matter who coaching. That. That coaching can't help.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Also revamp the O line, D line and get another corner or two. Marlon Humphrey not cutting it no more. Yeah, he's struggling. I mean, look, he's slowing down a little bit. Injuries a little getting nicked here and there. That's a big salary. I don't know if they bring him back at that number. It might be a situation where they can meet in the middle and find. Work something out, but they definitely got to get past rushers. That's what they need. They need more than they need that Cali. 1, 2, 3, 4. I'm still not impressed. I'm still not impressed with Bryce Young's arm. I think his arm is adequate. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. It's. Ain't nothing wrong with his arm. He ain't no Josh Allen. He ain't Aaron Rodgers. He ain't Brett Favre. He can get the ball and put. He. He can throw his receivers open. I know tonight, that goddamn out route to McMillan. It's late. It's late. It's late. It's late and behind. And every time. That's that interception. You got the. You got the. Throw him open now. Again, it's raining, the conditions are bad, so I'm. I'm giving a little grace on that because the ball is much heavier in that weather. But.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah, he don't have. No, you can't. You can't be you, and you can't be late. User07 Cam dresses like a bisexual Willy Wonka. I. You know what? These. These guys today, they. They spend more time worried about what other men wear. Y' all ain't got to be with them. Why y'. All. But I wouldn't buy that. No, you wouldn't because you're not in the situation that you're gonna afford the designer stuff now. Camp shops, at thrift shops. Cam ain't buying, really, Right? Cam all over.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. He got his own. He got his own style.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why did it bother y' all what another man wears? Yeah, okay. You wouldn't wear it. Okay, fine. You don't have to buy it. I'm com. I'm confused. There are a lot of things you say people wouldn't do until you got money. I'm sure when Jay Z was growing up in the Marcy Projects, ain't no way in hell he said he'd spend $100 million for a house. A Beyonce, which he was going up in Houston, most people. Because our mind won't allow us to think of spending a hundred, two hundred thousand dollars for a car or spending 1, 2, 3, 5, 10, or whatever million for a house, because our mind wouldn't let us comprehend that.

[Chad Johnson]

You never know what you'll do until you're in the actual.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Until you're in that situation. I. I would like everybody that's saying that if you had that money, it's hard for me to believe if you had 10, 15, $20 million, you're gonna live in the exact place that you live. You're gonna drive the exact same type of car that you drive, and you're gonna dress the exact same type of way. I. I just refuse to believe it. I refuse to believe it. Unless you cheat this Mr. Jetline, 27. But why does the critics from former players always turn into a professional fight after disagreement? Sante just did this recently. Y' all were talking about prime and T step turned to a. An argument. Yeah, you're right. And. And that's the thing. I'm looking at. I'm listening at what he said. And the thing is, is that. And that's what you know, Ocho, we also talk said. Look, let them say whatever they want to say. Me, I really didn't want to really talk. Really want to talk about this, because I don't really like injecting myself because. Oh, you and Cam, y' all boys, y' all taking. You taking sides? I ain't taking no side. I look at it like this. Asante. Like the T step. Time didn't. Okay, The T step worked great for Sante. He went to Pro Bowls. I think he was an All Pro. He won Super Bowls. Prime didn't believe in the T step. I just believe time is the greatest corner to ever play. Okay? Just because something worked for one doesn't mean it. It shouldn't work for the other. I mean, look, I'm a, I'm a big arm over guy, grunt with a collision guy, because Gronk can get separation. Gronk was bigger than I was. And it was going to be hard because when he bumps into you, a semi bumping into a Volkswagen is going to knock it off balance. Well, I wasn't big as those other guys, so. Not unless it's a db, but linebacker though, I'm arm over. I'm not let, I'm not trying to collide with you. I'm not playing bumper cars. That's not my game. So you're right. So when you look at the T step versus what and you know, that was the thing. Like, look, I disagreed with Asante and I was wrong saying like, bro, you talk about the arc arguing, you know, his stats against time. And I, I think the thing is for me, I was like, bro, they threw at you. They didn't throw at time. I mean, time sometimes could put the uniform, hang his uniform right back up in his locker and it'd be clean. Cause he ain't make no tackles. Cause they weren't gonna throw to the guy he was covering. But I agree with you, Jet Life. And, and, and that's the thing. I was just like, I'm done with it, y'.

[Chad Johnson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have you got your opinion? You can have your opinion. You don't think this guy was good? You don't think that guy was good? Let's just keep it to. I'm, I'm gonna critique what you said. The T step worked for Asante. He was great at it. Time didn't believe in it and he wouldn't teach it. I'm sure if Asante had a DB camp, he would teach the T step because he knows worked for him. Arm overworked for me. Bumper cars wasn't gonna work for me unless it was a corner, a 6 foot 8 Aquarius. You don't have to be a better quarterback than the next to talk about the position. I trust Romo analysis over Cam based on how he comments on the game. Well, let me tell you how he comments on the game because his job requires him to watch, to watch the game and to be able to talk. Cam would have to get used to talk. Because here's the thing, there's a difference between talking about what will happen, what has happened, as opposed what is happening. That's the difference. Troy Romo, Brady, Olson, Collinsworth, they're talking in real time. It's a lot more difficult than you Think I talk about. I used to talk about what I think is going to happen. Then I started talking about what has happened. They're talking about it in real, actual time. And you got to only talk in 5, 6 seconds. When you're on cable television, Ocho, we can talk for at least 35, 40 seconds, maybe even up to a minute. You don't get that luxury in real time. So there's a difference. And Romo have gotten really good at. I guess he's gotten good. I. I've never heard Roma.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, he's good. He good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like, but I just know. I just know how they have to do it and what they have to do, and it's not easy. That is the hardest one. Talking about. I'm. I'm giving you an opinion about what I think is going to happen in the game, which I think this team's going to win, blah, blah, blah.

[Chad Johnson]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. This team won. Let me tell you why I think they won, Joe. I think right here in this formation, they like to do this. Oh, hey, Jim. In this point, hey, this defense, this is the area of the field they like to run. Hey, they like to run. 0 Blitz. Talk about stuff in real time. So it's a lot difficult than you think, Mr. Jetline, 32, 000 yards and 75 rushing touchdowns. How is that not game changing? I guess he had. I guess he. The cutoff is 35, 000 yards and 100 Russian touchdowns. I don't know, Mr. Man. I don't know. Chris et Cam was never a game changer. Defense carried him to a Super Bowl. Defense gave him starting field position around the 44 yard mark. There've been a lot of teams. There are a lot of teams that had great defenses. You don't hold that against Terry Bradshaw. You remember the Steel Curtain. Joe Green's in the hall of Fame. Mel Blunt in the hall of Fame. Jack Lambert is in the hall of Fame. Jack Ham is in the hall of Fame. Donnie Shell is in the hall of Fame. LC Greenwood is on the commit. That's six guys on the defense. Now you tell me another defense, Lloyd. No, he wasn't with the Steel Curtain guys. We gotta stop trying to find a way to discredit somebody. Everybody had help. Elway had help. Montana had help. Brady had help. Bradshaw had help. It's okay. It's okay. LeBron had help. Jordan had help. Kobe had help. It is okay. But everybody, every great player is not going to win a championship in their said sport. And that's okay, too. Championships Are supposed to be hard because if they weren't, what's the value in it if everybody won? I thought we didn't like participation awards.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, we complained about giving kids participation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if. If everybody. If every. Everybody got to go and win the super bowl, if everybody got to go into the hall of Fame. So what's special about it then?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess. Look, we gotta just. I guess we just have a different opinion for. For game changers. Okay, Mr. Jetlight, just cause Cam didn't jump on that fumble doesn't mean y' all get the. On his own career. But that's what they do. And that's what happens. Billy Buckner. Go back and look at Billy Buckner's career. All they talk about is the ball that went through his legs. That's what they talk about. The good. Mark Anthony's speech about Julius Caesar. He said the good that a man does is buried. The bad lives on. That's what happened.

[Chad Johnson]

That is the truth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now had Cam come back and won a Super Bowl? Because guess what? What do people talk about? People don't talk about all those victories and all those. What do people talk about with Russell Joe, he threw that.

[Chad Johnson]

He had interception on the goal line to win the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He did win the Super Bowl. Now had he flipped, right? Did that first and then the super bowl next. But this is what they remember. 0fox40 shout out. I met you when you were playing at Savannah State. You came to my school and spoke and that was in 89. I still remember it. Much love. Appreciate you, bro. Mike. Mike. 100. What's up, Uncle Noo? Should the Browns just rush? Burrow every place on my. Make history. Love the pod. Keep it up. No, he's gonna rush every play. He's gonna get 40 rush attempts. But I think the thing is, look, Chase Brown has been running the ball extremely well. Ocho. So I think I'll sprinkle some runs in there. I'm gonna run the ball. I gotta try to slow him down somehow. I gotta. I. I've got to try to stay out of third alone or second alone. I want to make it. I want to be in as many third and second and shorts as I possibly can. So he doesn't know if it's a run or pass. Third and 10. You running the football. Third and 13. You run the football. Second and 13. 14, 15. You're throwing the football. Michael Irvin been getting heat for his sideline antics. What's y' all opinion of his antics? That's Mike. So let me ask You a question? What is he doing?

[Chad Johnson]

None. What is. Hey, he's doing what he's always done. That's always been Mike. There's nothing new.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm just trying to figure out what he's doing. Mike is very animated. He loved the U. He loved the U. He loves his team. His team is playing extremely well. He's always been like. He like that with the Cowboys.

[Chad Johnson]

Hell, he was like that when he was playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. But that's who he is. That's who he is. I love it. If San Francisco wins the Super Bowl, Brandon, are you getting a ring? I don't know. I know Lane Kiffin ain't getting no ring.

[Chad Johnson]

One thing, if they do win the super bowl, he ain't gonna want no damn ring. He ain't even want the goddamn money back. Hey, speaking of Michael Irving, boy. Hey, it's a video of Elmo. You know Elmo, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And he partying with some. Was like with some frat boys. Hey, somebody. Hey. And they. They are saying this, this. And they comparing it to Michael Irvin. That is so funny. Until I just let a chat, y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Chad Johnson]

Y' all know the video I'm talking about with Elmo parting with the. And they. They comparing them to. Comparing us to that Michael Irvin. Somebody got to send that. Send that dog, man. Dog. I'm talking about. Hilarious.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think I'm gonna go watch that. That Netflix thing on Charlie. Chevy Chase. Isn't that on Netflix? Just a little bit. I saw. Lord have mercy. He bad chevy chase.

[Chad Johnson]

The. Wait, the actor?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Comedian. Actor. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn. Chevy chase. Wasn't chevy chase from harry and henderson's. No. No. Maybe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Maybe he national lampoon.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, national lampoon vacation. Yeah. He do comedy, too?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah. Comedian. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap as you watch the Seattle Seahawks go on the road so up the number one seed and win the NFC West. Thanks to a 133 victory over the San Francisco 49ers, they will have the first round by in the NFC playoffs. I'm your favorite up. That is my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Bingo's ring of fame honoree. A former pro bowler and an all Pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure y' all hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you. Thank you for your eyes, thank you for your ears, and thank you for your word of mouth. We could not do any of this without you. So again, thank you for your support. Make sure you check out Shea by La Portier. Those wishing to purchase a bottle of Shea by laportier and you can't find it in a state or city near you, head to laportiercognac.com we have the OG bottle. This is the OG and we have the shawty which is the 375. Same great quality, same great taste, same smoothness. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go check out my media company page on all of his platforms, Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat again. The Seattle Seahawks will be the number one seed thanks to a 133 victory over the San Francisco 49ers. The Buccaneers they beat the Carolina Panthers, but they still need that. They need the Saints to lose, right? If Atlanta wins, Carolina goes. If the Saints win, Tampa goes. So there are Baker said he wasn't going to root for the Bucks, I mean for the Saints, because he don't like them. But I think deep down inside he want to make the playoffs. That's probably a little little incentive money in that for him. So I think secretly he's going to be reading rooting for the Saints. But again, thank you guys for joining us. We're back tomorrow. Hey Steelers. Another matchup. Ocho for the division title. Steelers Ravens lamar Aaron Rodgers Two former MVPs locked for the division is on the line. I'm up. He's Ocho. Thank you guys for joining us again. We'll see you tomorrow after the game. Peace. Everyone deserves to be connected. That's why T Mobile and US Cellular are joining forces. Switch to T Mobile and save up to 20% versus Verizon by getting built in benefits they leave out. Check the math@t mobile.com switch and now T mobile is in US cellular stores. Savings versus Comparable Verizon plans plus the cost of optional benefits. Plan features and taxes and fees vary.

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