Nightcap Hour 2: Austin Rivers CLAPS BACK At Draymond Green + Jeremiah Smith Buys DREAM CAR

Summary

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Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2: Austin Rivers CLAPS BACK At Draymond Green + Jeremiah Smith Buys DREAM CAR

Podcast Date: May 6, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (Joe Johnson), Chad Ochocinco (Chad Ochocinco), Uncle Ocho
Episode Focus:

• Austin Rivers and Draymond Green’s public feud escalates
• NIL era stories: Jeremiah Smith and buying your dream car in college
• NBA/NFL career reflection: role, opportunity, and criticism
• Q&A segments with fans on everything from team loyalty to life after sports

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode of Club Shay Shay's Nightcap Hour 2, the trio—Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco, and Uncle Ocho—take listeners through trending athlete beefs, big-picture basketball debates about role and legacy, and nostalgic and contrasting stories from their playing days. The hosts also field energetic questions from fans and dish light-hearted banter about everything from cars and college NIL money to firing employees and sentimental attachments.

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1. Austin Rivers vs. Draymond Green: The NBA Beef

[02:30–15:26]

Background

• Draymond Green had dismissed Austin Rivers’ NBA career, with a jab at Rivers' high school peak and the financial support Rivers received growing up.
• Austin Rivers fired back, calling Draymond “the luckiest basketball player” and detailing the array of Hall of Fame support Draymond had in Golden State.

Key Quotes & Moments

• Austin Rivers (paraphrased by hosts):
  “You’re the luckiest basketball player that I’ve ever seen. ... Steve Kerr made your career.”
• Draymond’s retort (paraphrased):
  “You and I averaged the same amount in high school—‘cause that’s when you were at your best.”
• Joe Johnson [04:56]:
  “You play 11 years, yeah, everybody gonna go to the Hall of Fame. Everybody’s not gonna be an All NBA player. ...It’s all about the situation that you end up in.”
• Uncle Ocho [05:35]:
  “They both 1 percenters. ... I don't understand the back and forth for the bickering about whose career is what.”

Analysis

• Ochocinco notes that both players have faced criticisms: Rivers about his Clippers contract (and his dad, Doc Rivers, being coach) and Draymond for benefiting from playing with Steph and Klay.
• Sharpe emphasizes fit: “Some guys... it doesn't matter where you put them. They’re going to be what they are. Some guys ... have to go to the right situation, take advantage of that.”
• On Draymond: While not the best player, he was perhaps “the most important” for the Warriors dynasty, excelling as an emotional leader and defensive anchor.

Takeaway

• Both athletes maximize their unique opportunities—neither deserves total dismissal for the context in which they succeeded.
• “Draymond, you could not have landed in a better situation. ...You’re an integral part.” — Joe Johnson [19:05]

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2. Jeremiah Smith and the NIL Era: How College Has Changed

[27:38–32:44]

Context

• Ohio State receiver Jeremiah Smith, valued at over $4.2M via NIL deals, buys a Lamborghini Urus at age 20.

Key Quotes & Moments

• “Hey, Ocho, you making four point something million in college. ... Hey, ball out Jeremiah.” — Uncle Ocho [28:45]
• “If NIL was around when you was in college…”— Joe Johnson launches fantasy car talk, nostalgia for Navigators, Expeditions, big-bodied Benzes.

Reflections

• The trio jokes about what they’d buy in their college days with 2026-era NIL money.
• Ochocinco would start with a classic Chevy donk; Sharpe, a sports car, maybe a big Benz; Uncle Ocho, “something fly."
• The conversation pivots to needing “help and guidance” if you come from less, as big money brings big pressure and spending.

Takeaway

• Today’s NIL athletes live a dream unimaginable to earlier generations—even for NFL/NBA stars—highlighting major culture and financial changes in college sports.

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3. On Roles, Opportunity & Athlete Criticism

[15:26–24:47, 34:45–41:41]

Key Quotes & Moments

• “The role you served made you … a quarter of a billion dollars … Four championships, two gold medals... a jacket one day in Springfield.” — Joe Johnson on Draymond Green [12:07–12:18]
• Sharpe reflects on his own NFL path: “I went to one of the three teams that had an H-back. ... Draymond went to a situation, tremendous IQ ... Look at the connection that he and Steph has.” [15:27]
• Criticism vs. Praise:
  “...You got a gold jacket, you got championships... I didn’t leave wanting for anything. You can’t make everybody happy.” — Joe Johnson [24:13]
• On athletes’ sensitivity:
  “Some guys can't take constructive criticism, bro. ... They don’t DM me not to praise them.” — Uncle Ocho + Joe Johnson [22:12–22:26]

Takeaway

• Success is a combination of talent, role fit, and opportunity—but public and peer perception often reduces legacies to numbers or headlines.
• Criticism can weigh more than praise, and coming from legends, it carries unique weight.

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4. NBA Playoffs, The Importance of Fit, and LeBron’s Legacy

[34:45–38:34, 65:41+]

Topics and Reactions

• Fan Q&A hones in on the Lakers’ playoff hopes, Austin Reeves’ “dog,” and the Thunder’s potential.
• Debate over whether Draymond’s output or LeBron in his prime could change playoff outcomes.
• “2018 Bron wouldn’t stand for this.”—Fan comment [65:41]

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5. Fan Q&A Highlights: Loyalty, Teammates, and Facing Tough Competition

[38:37–44:43]

• Most Reliable Teammates/Teams:
  • Ochocinco picks TJ Houshmandzadeh. “You ain’t gotta worry. He showing up to everything.” [41:51]
  • Johnson: Steve Nash, Ray Lewis, and Baltimore Ravens defense.
• Toughest Opponents:
  • Joe Johnson remembers the LeBron/Bosh/Wade Heat and late 2000s Kansas City Chiefs.
  • Ochocinco: The Ravens and Steelers.

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6. Life and Career Talk: Firing Employees, Detachment, and More

[54:45–86:57]

• Sharpe and Ocho discuss letting people go—“Either you're an asset or a liability.” [56:00]
• Nostalgia about CDs, sentimentalism, and letting go of possessions.
• “I’m big on sentimentality...it’s just hard for me to get up off it.” — Joe Johnson [87:07]
• Ocho asks if his easy detachment means he needs therapy.
  • Uncle Ocho: “Some people just keep everything...some, it don’t make them no difference.” [86:57]

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7. Rapid Fire: Fun, Basketball Trivia & Banter

[70:03–91:43]

• Allen Iverson vs. James Harden one-on-one: “I love AI, bro. ...He did that and some, man.” — Uncle Ocho [70:14]
• Nightcap’s Big Three Basketball squad talk: Ocho wants to be the “Kyrie” of the team for his handles.
• Shooting sleeves: Sometimes necessity (bursitis, surgery), sometimes pure “drip.”

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8. Closing & Notable Moments

[91:43–end]

• Star Wars colors: Most hosts pick Jedi, but don’t claim to be “sci-fi” experts.
• Walter Payton legacy: Not mentioned as much because of “recency bias,” fewer games.
• Music nostalgia: Ochocinco recommends “You and Me” by Rocky Robbins, “Honey” by Delegation.
• Plans for future shows, hints at new side projects, and playful disputes about on-air talk time.
• Wrap with NBA scores: Thunder go up 1–0 vs. Lakers. Chad Holmgren’s box score highlighted [94:07].

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Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• “They both 1 percenters … I don’t understand the back and forth.” – Uncle Ocho [05:35]
• “The role you served made you a couple hundred, maybe a quarter of a billion dollars when it’s all said and done.” – Joe Johnson [12:05]
• “Some guys ... have to go to the right situation.” – Joe Johnson [15:06]
• “Either you’re an asset or your ass a liability. Gotta go. Period.” – Uncle Ocho [56:00]
• “I’m big on sentimentality. ... it's hard for me to get up off it.” – Joe Johnson [87:07]
• Regarding NIL and luxury cars:
  “If NIL was around when you was in college… Hey, ball out Jeremiah.” – Uncle Ocho [28:44]

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How the Hosts Interact: Authentic, Playfully Competitive, and Honest

• The show’s magic is in honest camaraderie and banter; each host brings humor, experience, and a unique take, whether debating athlete fit or recalling old-school music and cars.
• They’re quick to remind each other—and listeners—that praise and criticism are both parts of being a sports legend.

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For New Listeners: What Makes This Episode Stand Out

• Explains the subtleties of NBA legacies beyond just box scores—context, fit, and team culture matter as much as raw talent.
• Offers a cross-generational lens on how college sports, fame, and money have changed.
• Showcases the importance of role players and how being “the best” isn’t always the same as being the “most valuable.”
• The Q&A delivers both laughs and insight—from firing people to old-school music and pop culture.

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For full context, check out the segments:

• [02:30] – Draymond/Austin Rivers beef
• [27:38] – NIL/Lamborghini college stories
• [34:45] – Lakers/Thunder playoff talk
• [41:51] – Most reliable teammates
• [56:00] – Real talk: firing staff
• [86:57] – Sentimentality vs. detachment

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Transcript

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[Joe Johnson]

Joe Austin Reeves clapped back at Draymond Green the day after Dre made. Huh? Oh, what's it oh. Austin Rivers Austin Rivers clapped Back at Draymond Green after Dre made disparaging comments about Rivers conference career. First, Rivers responded on the Dan Patrick show to what Draymond said about Kerr. Said, it's ridiculous. Draymond has such a high iq. That's a big part of his game, is how smart of a basketball player he is. So it bewilders me that he even thinks like this. Draymond responded, austin, you and I averaged the same amount of points in high school. And I say high school. Cause that's when you were at your best. You re. Should he really talk about my NBA career? The guy received the biggest bailout in U.S. history prior to President Trump bailing out the airlines when his dad gave him $42 million. Damn well now. Damn well now. Austin shot back, you're the luckiest basketball player that I've ever seen. You were drafted to a franchise with hall of Fame office, hall of Fame coach, and the greatest shooter of all time, perhaps the top five. Another shooter, a Hall of Famer, the Swiss Army Knife himself, another hall of Famer, not to mention one of the most lethal scores of all time, arguably top 10 player of all time. And Kevin Durant, the same guy you chased off because of your mouth. You talk too much. You are a backpack jump shooter. You're the guy everyone leaves open. No one guards you. Then hours and hours of film of you being left open, talking about Steve Kerr handed your career. Steve. Steve Kerr, major career. Joe. God, where are you on this?

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn, man, I hate the back and forth like this, you know, but, hell, both of them may have a point to some degree, Uncle Ocho, you know, But I think Austin Rivers, he does get a lot of flack behind that contract he got when he was with the Clippers, because Doc was. Doc was the head coach. And yes, I do think Draymond benefited from playing with Clay and Steph. Hell, I think everybody, you know, kind of understands that. He's seen a niche, he's seen a role that he could take. And I mean, yeah, he played it to the best of his ability, bro. He started his role. I don't think. Yes. I wouldn't slight one or the other. I thought both of them. I mean, obviously, Draymond being a Hall of Famer, but I think Austin had a decent career, bro. I thought he had a decent career.

[Joe Johnson]

You play 11 years, yeah, everybody gonna go to the hall of Fame. Everybody's not gonna be an all NBA player. Everybody's not gonna be an All Star. Everybody's not gonna win awards. We understand that. Somebody. Some guys are gonna have better careers. It's all about the situation that you end up in. Now, some guys, you take a prime time or Lawrence Taylor, you talk, you take a Jerry Rice, you take a Randy Moss. There are some guys, it doesn't matter where you put them. They're going to be what they are.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Some guys, Shannon Sharp has to go to the right situation, take advantage of that situation. And T. But, but when you look

[Uncle Ocho]

at it, though, look, look. Look at this, bro. They arguing or they going back and forth like both guys were elite. Meaning when I say elite, hell, it's only 450 guys in the NBA, Uncle. Ooh. Yeah. You know, that opportunity, that's for the 1 percenters, bro. the end of the day, they both 1 percenters. Like, I, I, I don't understand the back and forth for the, you know, bickering about whose career is what, but you're right. Hell, everybody ain't gonna win no title. Everybody ain't gonna be no all Star. But the role that you get on a team, man, play that to the T.

[Joe Johnson]

And I'm trying to, so I'm just trying to figure out. Draymond said he could have had a bigger role at the expense of who. So when Katie's there, you're gonna have a big offensive role with kd, Clay and Steph. Okay, when did. When you were there with just Steph and Clay, and I said this, I said when Steph suffered or had a lot of ankle injuries early in his career, that was your opportunity.

[Uncle Ocho]

But look, though, think about it. If Draymond is a score that don't mesh with Clay and Step, Steph, it doesn't, bro. You can't have five guys out there who think they f to get 20 plus points a night. It don't work like that. Somebody has to sacrifice and play another role and play that to the team. Yeah, that would be nice. Where you play, where you have great offensive outputs versus, you know, but for the most part, man, we didn't need. We need you to playmate. We need you to be an emotional

[Joe Johnson]

leader to do exactly what you.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's it, bro. That's all they needed. They got four titles out of that. Yeah, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

But, but you, you. It's a situation sometimes, Ocho, and you know this. In our sport, sometimes even when we have a lot, we think we, we should have had more.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, probably thinking, man, look, if I could have just had Carson my first couple of years, I'd had, like. And don't get TJ right away. That means I'd been by myself. That had to throw me 130, 140 targets a game. That's like 100 catches a season, man. I could have had me a B. So Instead of having 765, now I got a thousand catches. Instead of having 11,000 yards, now I got 14,000 yards. Instead of having 67, 68 touchdowns, now I got 90. Yeah, but everybody ain't meant to have a thousand catches at the receiver position. Everybody ain't meant to have. I'm like.

[Uncle Ocho]

So.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm like. But, but. But the question is. Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, guys, Draymond is right. He could have had a bigger role in scoring. You still think they win four championships and Draymond scoring more and doing less of what he already does? Because I don't see him being. Being. Being able to score. Now all of a sudden, he's giving us 14 points a game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

And still be able to do what he's doing. Do you think so? Do they win those four championships if Draymond has a bigger role in the offense?

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't think so, man. I think.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You don't think. You don't think so?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no. They needed what he broke, Ojo. They needed that, bro. They needed him to lock in, be a hell of a defender, be that guy, you know, who we could rally around if things weren't going right. Yeah, he may. He may jump out there and get him a technical foul, you know, to kind of try to turn the ties of the game, things like that. That emotional leader. They needed that. He was the only one who could play that role. Steph can't play that. Couldn't play that role. They can't see he couldn't play Clay and Steph role, and hell, they couldn't play his. Because I'm gonna tell you something. It was a lot of times when Draymond Green wasn't playing you, you could. It was noticeable. It was noticeable, Right. You know, it's not a lot of chat out there on the court. You know what I mean? And I think, you know that that hurt the warriors to some degree. They need him. They needed him to win, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You think about how good they were, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Before Clay got there. I'm talking about Clay before Kevin got there. Offensively.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I think Clay instead. Clay and Draymond came at the same time. Clay with the first round pick and Draymond with the second round pick, if I'm not mistaken.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but I'm just saying, even with hypothetically speaking, when Draymond was that defensive prowess and. And he wasn't an offensive juggernaut, and hypothetically speaking, if he was, they would still win because he's just adding to what they already do.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, I mean, just. It just. It's not his game anyway. But just.

[Uncle Ocho]

Just.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Just the thought of, you got Clay could score, you got goddamn Stephen score, then you got the centerpiece who's running the offense, and then he. He giving you that. That. That different mentality defensively, too, and he giving you points. I mean, that's. That's.

[Joe Johnson]

That's me personally. I think the thing is that I learned early on with where he might not be able to score. See, I don't want you to. Don't tell me what you can't do. Tell me what you can do. I can rebound. I can defend. I can run your offense.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Dennis Rodman, he can play hell of a defense. He can rebound the basketball, son. Anything you give us, we gladly. Point total. We know you're going to give us somewhere between 15 and 20 rebounds on a nightly basis. Yeah, we know you're gonna hustle and play your ass off. So instead of. They found out what. Draymond could do extremely well. And not like, well, man. Man, if we got. If we could get him to do this and get him to do that,

[Uncle Ocho]

because with that energy and effort. Uncle Ocho, y' all know this. That's a constant, bro. You can do that every damn night.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

You ain't. You ain't gotta have no off nights with that. As far as, you know, offensively, shooters, hell, sometimes you make shots, sometimes you miss them. But that guy who brings that emotional edge every night, we gonna win more times than not with him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And.

[Joe Johnson]

And. And. And the thing is that, Draymond, the role you served made you a couple hundred, maybe a quarter of a billion dollars when it's all said and done. The role you've served.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Four championships, two gold medals, and you're gonna have a. A jacket one day.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

In Springfield, Massachusetts.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, may. It wasn't meant for him to be a score then.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm sure there are a lot of people that would like to trade places with Draymond Green.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I'm sure some out there, he

[Joe Johnson]

won at an extremely high clip. He got compensated. He won championships, and he's going to. It's not like. You know what. You know what? Let's see. I didn't win. You won. Well, I ain't win no championships. You got four. You're deep as the player of the year. You've been an all NBA player. You've been an all star. As a second round pick. Who had this. Who had all of these on Draymond. On Draymond Green's card. The guy in the second round, he's gonna be a four time champion. He's gonna be defensive player of the year. He's gonna get two gold medals. He's gonna be an all NBA player. He's gonna be an all star, and eventually he's gonna end up in the hall of Fame. Who had that for a second round pick?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hell, I don't know. He might be the only one. Okay. Ojo might be. He might be the only one.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, and he know it's like Jokic, who had. Who had this career for Jokic. They thought so much of Jokic when he was getting drafted, they cut to a Taco Bell commercial. That's how much they thought of him.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, but you know what? Jokic's first couple years in the league, he wasn't. He wasn't nothing like this here.

[Joe Johnson]

Nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You were quiet, but you.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no. But, you know, Nurkic was together. They got up off Nurkic.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, they got up off Nurkic. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And then now they said, okay, go do what you. And they're like, hold on. You've been hiding all this. You've been sitting on this.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, listen, yo, hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

Who knew. Who knew he could do this? Because if you knew he would do this. And we've been playing Nurkids.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, look, don't let Draymond fool y'. All. He understand that his words carry weight. He knows that. He understands the success that he's had in the NBA. And, you know, he understand that his opinion is valuable in. In. In that aspect. That's why you see him on this podcast and he, you know, he. He lets you know how he feel.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I like it.

[Joe Johnson]

And this is his opinion, and I'm not here to say his opinion is wrong, but it's hard for me to see him in any. The question is, he goes and be a scorer at any other team. What's his. What's his career looking like? Because I'm a firm believer when you're not that Steph Curry, you're not that LeBron and Kobe and Mike, Larry, Magic, one of those type of guys.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Situations where you go back.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

There are some players that supersede. They can be anywhere. Magic Johnson could have went anywhere. He gonna be Magic Johnson, they gonna win. Larber could win anywhere. There are certain players that they had great careers, but they had to go to the right situation, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Draymond, you and I, one of those guys. It is what it is. I. I ain't got. Hey, it is what it is. I went to a team, only two teams I've won. Three teams had it. The, the Command, Washington, the Chargers, and the Broncos. Ran the H back position. I went to one of the three teams that had an hba. All the tight ends got hurt during the season. I'm playing h. Mac at 207, 209 pounds. Draymond went to a situation, tremendous IQ. He understood situations. He could rebound the basketball, he could defend at an elite clip. And guess what? Look at the connection that he and Steph has.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, he'll get the ball. Hey, set the pick. Leave the ball right there. Still come off the pit. Let him fly.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He get the rebound. No, Steph gonna reset. Stephan to reset the corner. Don't worry about it. I'm looking over there. Passing behind his back. Here comes stuff in the corner.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, he mastered that. He mastered how to play with stuff, how to maximize. How to maximize his potential. Playing with stuff, meaning getting stuff off, making sure he getting easy three pointers, making sure he coming off these hard ass screens. I'm sitting so I can get him wide open because ain't nobody guarding me. He mastered that.

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't a whole lot of guys think about it. In the history of the game, guys that play like that. Reggie Miller move without the ball. Ray Allen move without the ball. Rip Hamilton moved without the ball. And now you got Stephen Clay. You played with the five guys. You played with two of the five that played without the ball. They ran in it. But you set picks for them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Them boys did it at elite level.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. So what? So what? Have you played with a team that don't run guys off picks, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You. You. You better have a. You better have tools in your toolbox.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he better be getting a thousand jump shots a day.

[Joe Johnson]

So that's. That's the thing. I. Look, Dre, you got an unbelievable career, bro. I can see if you had an injury and you said, you know what, Joe? Steph is probably got said, man, just imagine how many points I could have had if these ankle injuries didn't creep up on me and caused me to miss so much time. And, you know, I missed a season with a torn. With a torn what? He dislocated his elbow. He broke his wrist. He broke his Wrist, man, I got 20 plus thousand points, but where would I be? That situation is normal. It's hard for me to imagine that Steph's like, man, yeah, I read off all he picked, but I could have did so much more. Yeah, I could have been ISO play. I could have been with James Harden. I could be with Luca. Draymond. You went to the perfect. You could not have landed in a better situation. I agree. And think about it, Steve Kirkus. Think about what. What. What you were doing before Steve got there. I don't think people understand that. Dan drafted me, put me in a situation.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boom.

[Joe Johnson]

Numbers here. Wade Phillips came, brought Jim Fossil, rest Jim Foster, soul, took me here. Then Mike comes in with the west coast, and I go to a whole different level each step. Yeah, you got to a level. I'm not so sure that they. That they could have. That you would have gotten to that level without Steve Curry and without that system with those two Splash brothers.

[Uncle Ocho]

I agree.

[Joe Johnson]

It doesn't diminish you. You're an integral part. I don't think they win those championships without you. As great as they shot the ball, they. They're not winning without Draymond. He was the heartbeat of the team. Was he the best player? No, he was never the best player, but he was the most important because he did all the grunt work, he did all the dirty work, all the rebounding, all the enforcing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, he did all that.

[Joe Johnson]

All the hard screens, he.

[Uncle Ocho]

And I think Kurt the one really put the ball in his hands because he took the ball out of Steph Curry's hands. This one. When Steve Kirk got there is when you started to see stuff seemed like he running two miles on every play he out there. I'm doing. He's just zooming through the. You know what I mean? But outside of that, at first, you know, he was a pick and roll, you know, a dominant point guard who handled the ball a lot, ran a lot of pick and rolls. When Kirk got there, everything kind of switched up. And I think it played into Draymond's favor, too. Yeah. Yes. He was more of the point. He was the point forward.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And, Dre, I'm looking at that jump shot. I don't see 15 points tonight with that jump shot. I'm just saying. I'm just saying with that jumper now, maybe if you sell foot, you ride the basket. Okay? But I'm looking at that jump shot. Dre, I don't know if you got 15 points a night in there with that. That. Yeah, but look, look, I I. And I agree with you, Joe. Austin. Re. Austin Rivers had an unbelievable career. 11 years. Draymond is what. What is. What year is it for Draymond? 14. 15. So this. This is 15.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. CO. Clay came after. So Steph was. Yeah, I'm saying. Well, K. Came before. Steph was first, then Clay, then Dre. Okay, well, who's the first round pick with Draymond?

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Harrison.

[Joe Johnson]

No, Harrison. Remember Harrison?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He won a title with them. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Harrison Barnes came. Okay. Yeah. So I'm like, dre, go home and look at them rings, man. When your daughter. When your kids meet you at the door, say, let me. Let me. Let me refresh my memory. Yeah, exact. You.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, look it. These days. These days, now, anytime, if you're not just heaping a fusive praise. And he said it. He said, look, Draymond's IQ is one of the reasons what makes him so spectacular.

[Uncle Ocho]

And it is.

[Joe Johnson]

But Oo and I ran into it. Oo and I might say 100 good things. We say the guy dropped the ball, and then. Oh, now y' all hating ass.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh,

[Joe Johnson]

bro, we've been talking good about you all year, but you dropped the ball in a crucial situation. Now you mad at OO and I because we pointed it out.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I know how it go, man. You know, somebody. Hey, some guys can't take constructive criticism, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

But they don't ever. They don't never say, hey. They don't never DM Me or DM Ocho. Hey, man, y' all stop heaving that praise on it.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't need all that. I don't need y' all to talk about how good I'm playing right now. Don't do that. We don't never get that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah.

[Joe Johnson]

But the minute we say, hey, bro, you got to make that play. That was a. You loafed on that play, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yo, because. Yeah, hey, y' all know criticism weighs more. It weighs a lot more, especially.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, and it. Depending on who it comes from, too. Yeah, they waving more.

[Uncle Ocho]

Look, you got. That's you, Uncle Ocho, both of y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[Uncle Ocho]

Uncle Badass tight end Uncle Hell of a. I mean, Ocho a hell of a receiver.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

When them guys hear stuff from y' all, these other receivers, hell, yeah, they. They take it to heart.

[Joe Johnson]

Time told me that. He said that's gonna be the hardest thing he'd say. He'd say. He'd say. He'd say. He'd say shot. He said, you got to understand, bro, you gotta you got a gold jacket and you got championships. So the things that they used to, used to use against players that didn't have a gold jacket or didn't have championships, they can't use against you. So I'm like when guys say, oh, you hating. Okay, I need you to tell me what I'm hating on because I don't know if you check my resume, I hadn't updated in a while, but I don't know if you checked it. I'm. I'm good. I. Hey, I left the game. Every record that a tight end could have, it was in Glenville, Georgia at my granny's house. All of them. They don't been broken. Okay, I'm cool with that. But for a seventh round draft pick out of an HBCU to have every record that a tight end could have, I think I did pretty good. Ocho came out of Liberty City. Nobody thought Ocho was going to end up what he did, but he turned into a six time Pro Bowler, an All Pro, a top 50 player in Cincinnati Bengals history. I think we kind of know what we're talking about a little bit. A little bit. So you can't make everybody happy.

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[Joe Johnson]

State wide receiver Ocho and Joe just bought his dream car. He isn't even eligible for the NFL until the next draft. Just five months away from turning 21 years of age, Smith picked up a 2026 Lamborghini Urus starting at 250 a quarter of a million, which pocket change when you consider he's one of the highest paid nil athletes in the country with a valuation of 4.2 million, thanks to deals with Adidas, Red Bull, Lululemon and Nintendo. Oh, Joe, if Nil were around when you was in college.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

What you call.

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't gonna lie. Let me tell you something. I'm gonna have me. I'm gonna have me some fly. See, when I was in college, y' all know what came out? What came out was some Expeditions and them Navigators. That's what came out when I was in college.

[Joe Johnson]

They was the hottest day.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe, remember. Remember excursions?

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Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

They had just came out around that time, like 2001. 2000. So everybody was getting there. But yeah. Hey, hey, Ocho, you making four point something million in college.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, get you a little Uris, a little Lambo or something, boy. Hey, I probably would have caught me something like that now. Yeah. I ain't gonna act like that. Hey, I'm just about to turn 21 and you mean, boy. Yeah, I'm like, hey, hey, ball out. Jeremiah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What you getting, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

You gonna put them things on there?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, you know, I had a little something. I had a little something. Bro hooked me up.

[Uncle Ocho]

I had a.

[Joe Johnson]

A 300 ZX, you know what I'm saying? You know, T tops, you know, I had a thing. You know, I had a little thing. Then my Senior had a 300 Bens. You know, I had a little something.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, but imagine if. Imagine if you make. If you had 4 million, though, on your own.

[Joe Johnson]

You making. Oh, I had a sports car. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Hold on. You know, back then, those big 560 Mercedes was out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, big body, 500 series. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Probably something like that because I ain't really know. I ain't really know nothing about no little like. Ain't no. I ain't had. Never seen a Ferrari up close in person. Never have seen a Lamborghini. So I probably wouldn't even. Probably get, you know, what was out, too. No Iroxies, remember? No Iroxy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember Iraq.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. I think nowadays you got so many of these young cats driving these Lambos and Rolls Royces here. You know, these kids see all that, they want that big. They want that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, for sure.

[Uncle Ocho]

Bentleys and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

What you getting? No show. Hey, you died in Miami. Oh. You know, you. You in Oregon, so you at Oregon State.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I still got that Miami mentality. And normally having that kind of money, the first thing I would. I would have did, being a little shorty, being legit, I would have got me a Chevy.

[Joe Johnson]

I was gonna say you get the don't or box.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I'm getting, I'm getting here don't. 73 convertible top, you know, on some all gone bees and that. That's just the mindset. Especially when I'm that young out where I wouldn't be choosing, you know, none foreign, but my first car, I would want, I want, I want a damn Chevy. Yeah, yeah, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but I. I don't know. Hey, I might have to get me something. Hey, I had to get me something with a passport. Hey, yeah, but hey, that gonna be the first car. The first part we'll go. Hey, man, Porter. Definitely we're getting up out of there. She getting out of Route 4, Box 3. Well, listen, boy, kids balling out of control, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, they need some real help and guidance too, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Because you know, you get the stories that I hear about guys coming out had that nil and they seven figures to the tax man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Think about it though, think about it. If you come from, you know, a family whose parents never had this type of money, hell, it ain't just you spending. You know what I'm saying?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but just a thought. I'm just, I'm just thinking about that. Boy, you can't imagine in college, you can't even imagine, man, me, hey, me pulling up to the game and I got damn Chevy boy with that old trick daddy playing that 2000 trick.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I know one.

[Joe Johnson]

I know you have that flip fl. You have that flip flop playing on that thing. Oo, that who that flip flop paint, that, that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You remember that chameleon paint, you remember

[Joe Johnson]

that, that flip flop? Hey, I.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I'mma have mine.

[Joe Johnson]

That bowling ball, that thing gonna be looking like the old bowling ball with that shine on it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, I know, I know one thing. When you get your ass on that field, you better be cutting up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, you know, you know, I'mma cut up Joe. You know, I'mma cut up Joe. I ain't. I ain't got no choice.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Hey, that's the one thing you gotta understand as a young player. Hey, it's good to have all these things, you know, these materialistic things. But don't forget, don't forget why you here now, how you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, how you got it and not how and how you go.

[Uncle Ocho]

Don't forget, we lose that edge that you lose a little bit of that drive. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know, back in the day, hey, I pull up to the game, had that little 300Z, you know, after the game, old lady waiting on me, getting the thing. You know, I had to go shower. You know, I could take no shower. I had to go back to the door. Then we go out, get a little something to eat. You know what I'm saying, Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, I'll ball a little bit. What, bro? Had to hook that thing up.

[Uncle Ocho]

Four M's, bro. In college, 20 years old.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we going here. You getting that, Getting that. Getting them gizzles fries carry here to go to Ryan, you know, a little something, man. That was.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who, man, I still. Man, I'm thinking about it too, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

What you think about?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, back then and you know, you know them. I'm gonna just say the D boys don't know, boy. Had them Chevys and them goddamn dudes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, man, they were cutting up, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boy, random Ford and Ford for super duty F at 450s and 350s.

[Joe Johnson]

I thought about getting. What you call it? That Shelby. Yeah, that Shelby. You was you. I went test drove. That's the only car I've ever test drove. I like, man. I might get this thing here.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Shelby.

[Joe Johnson]

That Shelby.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, the one from the movie. Going in 60 seconds.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know what you're talking about.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. No, I ain't talking about that. I ain't talking about that. 427. I think you talking about that Eleanor, though.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, Eleanor.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that Mustang. All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Before we get to the super chat, we got five video voicemail from our discord. Let's take a listen.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ocho. Joe, what's good with y', all, man? It's Fallout Media.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm back here again, man. Unc.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, I'm mad than the O. I'm mad, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm mad. I'm mad.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all see? Lakers locked in.

[Uncle Ocho]

Go, James.

[Joe Johnson]

I locked in. I'm locked in.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Me and you.

[Joe Johnson]

We here.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, this was terrible, man. This was terrible, man. This was terrible. Austin Reeves. One thing about Austin Reeves so far the last couple playoffs, he showed me something. He's showing me something. He's not ready. He. I don't know if he got that dog in the month. Do we got that dog in the Monk? What's going on? Oh, Joe.

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How.

[Joe Johnson]

How often can we rely on the Thunder missing all these threes? How often can we rely on the

[Uncle Ocho]

Thunder turning the ball over at this rate?

[Joe Johnson]

How often can we rely on that? I'm Mad Nightcap family. I'm mad in the muff. I'm mad, y'. All. No, I'm mad because it's some straight up bs. This is a game you gotta win. This is a game when. When the best team in the NBA play this bad, you gotta win it. I'm sorry, y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just mad.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm mad. He mad, Joe. I'm. How you mad? You knew who that. You knew what the outcome was.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, but they had a chance, though, Ocho. That's what he's saying. It's like. It's kind of like they got teased a little bit. That's what it is. It's like, damn, we played. We played pretty decent first quarter.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Second quarter until the last, what, Couple minutes. And then outside of that, you know, you get down 8 to 12 points, right. You can't come back. And like, like he said, hell, he see the turnover that. That. That Shay had. Who, like. Like Unc say they ain't held Shay under 20 points, and I don't know how damn long.

[Chad Ochocinco]

20 points.

[Uncle Ocho]

So you get this opportunity. Damn. You just. Braun just needed a little help. He just needed some. Some. He needed ar, though.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know, being loaded, Fish.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I understand. So he. He just wanted to feel good tonight, then. That's it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, I mean, you got it now.

[Joe Johnson]

What it is. I know what he's saying is, man, why you try to rather be. Man said he mad, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know. I'm. I'm just saying. But also, outside of being mad, you also. You also have to be realistic, you know, going into the series, understanding, you know, there's a good chance, you know, we might not win a game. You're playing the best team.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Playing the best team out the goddamn West.

[Joe Johnson]

So I think what Joe said, and we talked about it, we didn't expect them to play this bad. I mean, think about it. Think about it. How many shots? Shay only went to the line three times.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And look at all the threes. Look at all the turnovers they had.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And they still beat you by 18.

[Uncle Ocho]

And they only had 108 points. And you know they gonna have. They gonna have a couple of them game where they got 130. 140.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. And you know, if they get. They get to that 130 week, the game need to be at 100.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Because that's your best chance of winning. You're not gonna outscore them.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And the funny thing about it, too, Uncle Joe, you just said it too right. Shay didn't have a huge game. You know, offensively, one of the few games we didn't score 20. Hell, he didn't score 30. But, hell, everybody else contributed, too. Every. Everybody else contributed, too. So even if he does have off night, hey, you still got to deal with everybody else.

[Joe Johnson]

That's the. That's the time that you like. Okay, Austin. To think about it, LeBron took a back seat to Austin. He took a back seat.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know why? You know why? Because he didn't. He knew it was going to take him a little while to find his rhythm in time. And after missing the first, what, 15, 17 games. Yeah, he knew it was gonna take him a little while. The same with ar, bro. It takes. It takes a little. Takes a little time.

[Joe Johnson]

Let's take a listen to the next one.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's up, Ocho? ISO Nightcap family. Hey, I want to ask, what was one teammate y' all had? Y' all know what's always gonna come and play. You never had to worry about him. He just always on his. And Brian the Goat, man, but lbj, Mary J, PB and J. Okay, seeing three, and I say three. Cause we gonna beat y' all so bad, y' all boys ain't gonna show up the game. He said what? He said what? What team or what teammate?

[Joe Johnson]

I think he said team. He said team. Team. Oh, did I had. Did I know I had to be on my best behavior against. Oh, okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

He said, what now is it?

[Joe Johnson]

What team did you play that you know you had to have to be on your best behavior against or gonna be bad?

[Uncle Ocho]

Boy, was I. I tell y', all, it was. Had to be what, 2011, Brian. First year in Miami. I was playing here for the Hulks.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Uncle Ocho]

get your rest, partner. That they gonna try to embarrass your ass. Braun, Chris Bosh, D. Wade, they just had a squad. They had guys.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They were loaded.

[Uncle Ocho]

They just had guys who knew how to play, bro. And they were hungry. They wanted to win. That's. That's. That's when Braun was talking about not one, not two, not man. They were hell.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

They were hell, boy. Kansas City. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Kansas City was always tough. They always had to. They would. They didn't have offenses like they got now, like what they had when they had Priest Homes and Trent Green and all those guys. And obviously, when they had. Obviously not with my homeboy, but their defense was upstanding. They were unbelievable. And boy, them two guys, they had Rock, Kevin Ross and Albert Lewis. And then they got Carter and they got Hasty.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They were right There James Hasty.

[Joe Johnson]

And they got DT and Neil. They had them guy. Oh, man, they were. Hell, you had to be. You had to be on your best. Yeah, and they were dirty, too. Pushing your cheap shot. You.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who you had Ocho shoot me, especially during that time in early 2000s, boy. Shoot. Only thing I can think of is the goddamn Ravens and Steelers. And then, you know, hell, I. I ain't got damn behave because, you know, my crazy ass, you know, sending gifts, talking. Talking trash through the media just to make it exciting, take some of the pressure off my teammates. So all the pressure was on me. You know, all you all got to do just go out there and play. No. Everybody aiming to hurt me. Everybody aiming to kill me. So you. Everything should be easy for you. But, boy, them goddamn games there, boy. Joe, I had to bring an extra chin strap.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, it was like that.

[Joe Johnson]

He said. He said. He asked teammate. The chat is saying. He asked teammates.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, he said, teammate, you ain't got to worry about.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, what teammates?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Goddamn. TJ boy. Yeah, God damn. TJ boy, he's showing. Hey, you ain't got to worry about it. He's showing up to everything.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No matter the circumstance. Win, loss, draw. TJ. TJ boy. TJ was. He was a real deal, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, seven. I played with seven. And then Baltimore had to be 52.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Mine would be 0405 Phoenix playing with Nash.

[Joe Johnson]

He.

[Uncle Ocho]

Little Joker was special, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he was special, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he nice on that. On that. On that pitch, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

He is. That's what he grew up playing that soccer.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's how his footwork got nice.

[Joe Johnson]

I think the thing is, I caught Ray when he was young and he was hungry. All he talked about, man, I need to be defensive player of the year. I need that, man. I need to be the best. I said, bro, these are some of the things that you need to do. There's some of the things, you know, how you need to conduct yourself. I say it's. Hey, it's there. I said, you got the talent. I said, but now, I mean, there's one thing to say. You want to be there. There's another thing to go out there and take the steps necessary to be that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

man, The way. The way I saw him train and the way I saw him grow and once we. Because my first year there, he ended up being defensive player of the year. It was over.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Same year he was mvp, super bowl mvp. It was over. I said, they don't. I said, I was telling somebody, I said, I don't even realize what he's doing. He was the wrong guy to have that level of success. I said, because he won't rest now. I said, he gonna want it. He's gonna want more of that.

[Uncle Ocho]

And that's rare.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He go, he going to get it. He going to get it, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's rare that you have guys with that mentality. After they win, they exhale. But you got some guys after they win, they want more. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. That's all. He was like, bro. I was like, bro, bro, enjoy this, bro. We just won the Super Bowl. You defensive player of the year, super bowl mvp. He's like, I need it. I need another. He like, I need another one of these things, man. I mean, all the greats, he like LT and Reggie and this one, man, they got multiple. I said, bro, bro. You five years in the league. Think about it. You five years in the league, you a first team all pro. You're a Super bowl mvp and you dpoy. Other than lt, no other player got that resume.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, well, that's funny. That's funny.

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[Joe Johnson]

All right, let's take a listen to the next one.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's up Unc Ocho ISO. Big fan of you guys.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm from the Caribbean, from Grenada to be exact.

[Uncle Ocho]

I've been watching the show for past two years now. You know, maybe three. I've been here from the beginning.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Always watch you guys every night.

[Uncle Ocho]

Show is full of laughter, full of fun. Every time I'm in the kitchen preparing

[Chad Ochocinco]

my lunch, always that is my go to especially you know, the stories, the

[Uncle Ocho]

UN stories and so on, you know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Appreciate you guys.

[Uncle Ocho]

All right, all right.

[Joe Johnson]

Appreciate that, man. We appreciate the support. I don't know a whole lot about Grenada. Anybody ever been to Grenada? You been some everywhere. You ain't do ish Ash over there raising?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I guess they, they. It's. They known for like spices and stuff, right? I think they like known for like cinnamon, nutmeg or something. I'm trying to think. I know,

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm trying to think.

[Joe Johnson]

If an athlete. Nah, he from Suriname. Anthony Nest. Anthony Nesty. He's the head coach of Florida swim team. I think he was the Olympic. Olympic swim team coach too. Okay, see, I know a little something.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What happened?

[Joe Johnson]

It's known as the Isle of Spice. You're known for like spices, cinnamon, nutmeg, stuff like that. Okay, but I've never been to it. I'm going to an island.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, maybe.

[Joe Johnson]

Maybe a long Island.

[Uncle Ocho]

What would you know about the Long island team?

[Joe Johnson]

What? Nothing. I know my homeboy Bucket. That's his Drake. The first thing he do, he goes somewhere. Man, let me get all along. Well, let me go ahead and get two because it's gonna probably take you a while to get back over here. Now. I ain't never had one. Joe. Yeah. Karate James, that's who's from Grenada. He won Olympic. He won Olympic gold medal in the 400. Went to university of Alabama. That I knew it was somebody from Grenada. Let's take a listen to the next one.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's up Ocho and Stew? Hello, King. I saw in the building. I just got a quick question for all y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, Joe B. From Atlanta. Myself. What's your favorite moment being Atlanta Hawk playing for them like anything. Could be anything in the game.

[Joe Johnson]

Whatever.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ocho, I got a bonus pick with you because when you listed your receiver for our receive workshop room, you did not mention Drake London. You did not invite him. So I'm just very curious on what is your beef with Drake London? I get the Falcons are a low market team, but Drake Lynn is a top 10 receiver in the league. And I'm very curious and I actually pull up the stats for him just in case he doesn't know because Ocho doesn't watch the Falcons. Trust me, I know. And my last question for you is, what's been your hardest moment since recording Nightcap? And Joe, do not pay him that 500 until he missed straight. Lynn is a top five receiver. Ash, pull up the stats.

[Chad Ochocinco]

1.

[Uncle Ocho]

My favorite moment being Atlanta Hawk. It would have to be. We were AC. Playing the Boston Celtics, who was a 1 seed, who ultimately went on and win the title that year. We took them seven games. They didn't win a game here in Atlanta, fellas.

[Joe Johnson]

It was.

[Uncle Ocho]

I've never seen the arena like that, ever. Like, I'm talking about to where when you talking to yourself, you can't even hear yourself talk.

[Joe Johnson]

You can't even.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what I mean? Like, it was. It was crazy in there, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, why you didn't invite that, man?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I invited everybody. I don't know what the hell he talking about.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I don't know about your top five. I don't even know about top ten.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I. I don't know what he's talking about either. Oh, especially that part. But, you know, I don't. I don't disrespect nobody. I did. I just let people talk. You know, that's the city. That's his team. I like Drake. London. Really good player coming out of usc. Good dude. Good dude. Real good dude.

[Joe Johnson]

People talking about, what's the. What's the toughest. The toughest thing I went through since I started recording Nightcap. I know a lot of people think it's the. The situation that I had last year, but I've had some private battles that were even tougher than that, and I just leave it at that. Here's our next one.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's up, fellas? Just wanted to say what's up? Chicken in. Hey, I know y' all be doing a lot of talking about the. The nightcap outside, what y' all gonna do next. Y' all need to line up the. The batting cages, pool, and throwing darts on the next one and up. You always talking about you was shooting up your knees, your ankles, your back. It's time to shoot up, man. Don't shoot that knee up and go. Get out there, man, and shoot that. Next episode Nightcap Outside, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Peace out, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey,

[Joe Johnson]

and down there, six and six weeks away from 58 by shooting.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I tell y' all what. I'm gonna put down a mean demonstration on you boys again for not on

[Joe Johnson]

darting darks and pool.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Joe, hold on. Hey, hey, listen. You definitely, definitely not that bad.

[Uncle Ocho]

You already said you can't hit 85. I know I can hit 85.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, you cannot, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, all right, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, listen. Listen to me. Listen to me all. All jokes aside, when the last time you've Been in the back game.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's been a while, but my handout coordination is great.

[Joe Johnson]

I got 20.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, it's not. I don't know it. No, it's not.

[Uncle Ocho]

How you gonna tell me what my hand eye coordination is?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Joe, do you understand how fast 85

[Uncle Ocho]

miles an hour is? Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You not your hand eye coordination. Unless you played at the highest level.

[Uncle Ocho]

We're gonna see, then we're gonna see.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm telling you, it's not. You not be. You're not beating me in darts or pool or ping pong. Hell, you not even beat me in your own goddamn sport. The hell I'm arguing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oo you unc. Can't even see. So I know y' all can't beat me in darts.

[Joe Johnson]

How y' all gonna beat me in dart? Hold. Oo can't see. Oo got that murky eye. I'm good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How the hell I can't see?

[Joe Johnson]

C. Your. Your right eye cloudy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I. I didn't. Did well all my life with just one eye.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's when you were young, though. You were young, vibrant.

[Joe Johnson]

You. You were booming.

[Uncle Ocho]

You ain't like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm still Joe. I'm still booming Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Still.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm still vibrant Joe. Ain't nothing changed.

[Uncle Ocho]

All right.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, man, we get out there, they talk about, man, y' all out there going against a Cyclops.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, not just any Cyclops. One of. One of the top, sexiest Cyclops alive, man.

[Joe Johnson]

You're not winning. We got one more. Do y' all remember the first time you had to fire somebody? How did it feel? And what did y' all learn from it? Joe, you ever had to fire something?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, hell, I don't put no emotion into it. It is what it is. It's gotta happen. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Either you're an asset or your ass a liability.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Gotta go. Period.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, well, I'm trying to think. Well, since Ash do all the hiring, she responds with determination. No, I'm. Well, look, I mean, I've changed agents or changed attorneys and stuff like that, but it's. It's a part of. But I'm talking about somebody that actually worked, like day to day operation Club Shay Shay Nightcap or something like that. I've been blessed that I haven't had to. Hopefully, I don't have to. I think we have great. I think the people that we have working in these, in this space, they enjoy being here. They work really hard. They understand. A lot of them came from Fox and they understand my work ethic. They understand what we. What I expect of them because they see how hard I work, and they know I expect them to work equally as hard. So I've been very, very fortunate to. To have people that. I think we pretty much had the same. I mean, obviously. Yeah, we did. We had to fry a couple of producers. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Think about it. Hey, hey, hey. With me running this yoga studio, I had to. I had to fire a couple. Couple yoga instructors. I mean, you know, they all independent contractors, so it ain't like they. They solely work for ISO Yoga. They work for other studios around the city. But if. If I got students coming to me or. Or clients come to me and they complaining about you and this same complaint. Hell yeah, you gotta go.

[Joe Johnson]

Right? Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn, Joe. You'll find me if I work. If I were the ISO.

[Uncle Ocho]

Get your ass out of here as soon as you came in. Hey, if I got. If I got a young lady. A young lady. Tell me. Well, Ocho, he been. You know, he been. He been real flirtatious. This dead. And the third. Because that's the one thing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right. Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

One thing I don't tolerate, you know, especially if you're a man in this industry.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. You ain't gonna be putting. Pitching wool on my own because it's dominated by women.

[Uncle Ocho]

And so if guys come in and can't control themselves, that's the first thing I tell you, bro. Your ass gotta go. If I get one complaint, you gotta go. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. What is she. Oh, yeah, Joe, you know, they. They be coming on to me, Joe. I ain't got nothing to do with that joke.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, well, hey, hey, hey. You better act like Ray Charles.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't do business like that, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you had to fire somebody, Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, I ain't really had to find nobody on. I mean, you know, cutting people off. I mean, that's not really. Not really firing. You know, they ain't on my books.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Or nothing like that. You know, I ain't never really been. Been in a position where, you know, I got the. Know, let somebody go.

[Joe Johnson]

All you got to do is just work hard. I mean, look, I. I ain't. I ain't looking over your shoulder. I ain't doing all that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't got. I got too many other things.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ain't trying to micromanage no damn body.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't trying to. You just. Hey, you said you can do it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I hate that, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

You said you. Oh, this what you can do? Oh, yeah, I. I've done this.

[Uncle Ocho]

XYZ oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How.

[Joe Johnson]

How long you say you been doing this?

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, See, now, as you're saying, people chat GPT the resume, so they feel like they. They done did all this, and they get there on the job, it ain't did nothing. And then I'm gonna chat GPT this resignation later. You got to get up out of here. Because we don't. We don't. Because the thing is, at the rate we're moving, we don't really have time to train you. Either you can do it or you can't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

And, you know, we. Hey, this stuff live, maybe you get a little bit more leeway with a club. Shay Shay. Because it's taped, right? But when we live. Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hell, no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe. Now that I think about it, Joe, you know I love me some jobs, boy. I'm thinking about a. You might. You might want to hire your boy. Come on, hire me. No, Give me. Give me a little.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know, you already said you can't be still, and you can, so I already know you ain't even in for the running. I ain't even got you in. I ain't got you. You.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, listen, you heard what Unc just said. Now, come to work, be on time, you know, be professional.

[Uncle Ocho]

But you. You ain't gonna have no passion for it. Ocho, you already told me you can't be still.

[Joe Johnson]

You.

[Uncle Ocho]

You don't like. Yeah, I ain't gonna waste no time with you, partner. Nah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So I'm trying. So you say support black. I'm trying to support black Blends. You don't want to get a brother.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I can't. I can't do it, partner. Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Either. Either.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I told you. Either your asset or liability, partner.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I definitely ain't no liability. Huh? I'm an asset to the company, all right? And you can have me on the corner with a sign. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

No. Bernie McGovern said, oh, you and Skip appeared on Truth a Dab. And. And you were asked who you've never listened to, and you said, will Kane. What is or was your beef with him? Ain't got no beef. I just am not interested in anything that he had to say. This B. What's up? Nightcap? Love the show, yo. Where did you get the random knowledge from? Do you read a lot, or is it just life experience? Some of it is life experiences, but I did. I mean, I love sports, and I'm just a sponge normally. If I read something. If I see something. Yeah, it's there. It's there. And, you know, my grandfather was, you know, like I said, we was. We was computers. We used the cell phone. We was the. What they call that thing, notes, where you, like, you tell your phone something and it reminds you that's what we were for. Barney Porter. Hey, tell them boys your address. Tell them boys phone number. And then we'd have to read. Have to regurgitate it to him. But I've always been like that. Always. And so it is, sir. It serves me well to be able to recall things, especially in the debate format. Because when you debate, to be able to recall things, like I said. Plus, I'm old enough to remember because a lot of stuff that we talking about.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Happened in my lifetime, and I'm old enough to have seen it, seen Magic Johnson, seen Larry Bird, seeing all that. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Y' all talk about this. Xyz, blah, blah. I said, y' all do realize in that first championship, Bird wasn't the final mvp. What?

[Uncle Ocho]

Cornbread.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all know he had a game in which he scored eight points, but that ain't none of my business. I don't even know why I brought it up.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

See, I'm saying, hey, to be able to recall stuff like that and. But so, yeah, it does serve you well, especially in a debate format. I think that was one of my biggest assets is that being able to debate, studying and watching what I did. Because the first two years, I would do the show all two and a half hours, and then I would go home and rewatch the show. And I remember having my agent called me, Marvin, like, what are you doing? I said, I'm rewatching the show. He called me, like, a week later, rewatching the show, called me a month later, we're watching the show. He's like, how long you think you're gonna be able to do this? He said, you'll burn yourself out. But I wanted. I wanted to be great at this because I know I was the first to do this on a daily basis. You know, you normally. The guys come in and do a segment. If it's a basketball guy, he do the basketball segment, it's a football guy, he do the football segment, it's a baseball guy, so forth. And so. But I was going to be there full time. I was not going to get off a segment. So I had to re immerse myself and to make sure, okay, yes, you was good here, but, oh, you could have got right Here, don't be so. Hey, let him finish his point. You got him. You got him. Spring the trap on him. And so to be able to recall that information, man, it. It really served me well. I do miss that sometimes. I do miss, like, having that word. Ocho got his flag planted here. I got my flag planted there. Okay. Debate. Yeah, yeah, Real, real debate. Trey Tyner F. What Ocho been talking about. Can't say nothing about broad age. A 32 year old LeBron is getting this Thunder team out of here. Year.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, he's saying when Braun with 32. Oh, yeah, he gonna put up at least 45. Yeah, he gonna have a couple games.

[Joe Johnson]

They. And they. And they sing a little like this with no double. Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure, man. Listen, he getting a game or two.

[Uncle Ocho]

I think we get a game or two. You know,

[Joe Johnson]

OKC always clamps. AR series over where for real, if they don't find a way to score. Excuse me. AR Gotta find.

[Uncle Ocho]

He'll be better. I think he'll be better. Y' all gotta know he. He went to. He went to college in Oklahoma. He played the University of Oklahoma. So it's like. Yeah, yeah, he from Arkansas. That ain't number like a two hour drive from Oklahoma. So it's like he at home. I feel like he gonna. I feel like he gonna play a lot better. He gonna pick it up, Man.

[Joe Johnson]

Nightcap, fam. All I know is 2018. Brian wouldn't stand for this.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, it's 20s, 20, 26.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, man. Can we. Can we move on?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, we got, we got. We gotta keep. Stop reliving, you know, what it used to be. And you know, isn't it funny how

[Joe Johnson]

time just lives on the way.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, boy. Joe, I got a song, boy, you got to hear, boy. Hey, man, listen, hold on. I wrote it down in my thing. Hold on, I wrote it down. Hey, it's called you and Me.

[Uncle Ocho]

By who?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Rocky Robbins. Rocky Robbins. I don't know if y' all ever heard it. I don't know if y' all ever heard it. It came out in 1980. The song you and me by Rocky Robbins. And he got another song called After Loving you, Joe. Oh, my.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Joe, I'm. You know, I'm a sucker for 80s and 90s music. Yeah, and I know about all of it. I ain't never heard this dude before. And I thought I knew everything when it come to old school music, boy, this one here. Hey, Chat, listen to that song, man. After loving you and the Other song is you and me by Rocky Robbins, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Cinco de Mayo. Cinco de Ocho. Cinco de Mayo. Cinco de Ocho. Prime lost the toe. I'm Mojo Jojo. OKC and folk. We get the game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, today is Cinco. Today.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. I didn't. I didn't miss all the fish. I don't even drink, but still.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I should have went out there and got me a little talk.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I should have went and got a little taco or something.

[Joe Johnson]

Some teeth. What? No. Chips, Tortillas.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. I ain't gonna even laugh. I. I ain't know. I ain't know today Cinco de Mayo neither. My lady came home, she like. She was like, you know, today sick. I'm like, man, I ain't.

[Joe Johnson]

What? Yeah, I ain't know either, Joe, until Ocho just brought it up. Damn, man, we celebrate. I mean, they got so many holidays now. The holidays just run together.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Every other day.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, not only that. When you've done so damn much in your lifetime, boy, you've done so much damage. You like, damn. Hey, I can stand to chill out.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Would you rather be an mb, NBA mvp, but never make a finals? Or a bench warmer with five rings who never played a single minute?

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[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

What? Hey, look, I ain't gonna lie.

[Joe Johnson]

That's easy.

[Uncle Ocho]

I want to be involved. Yeah, I. I want to be involved. I don't want to sit the bench and, and, and. And collect awards. I want to be out there in the action.

[Joe Johnson]

Boom boom room. Dr. Doom, Hawaiian goons. Bring out the broom sweep. Coming soon. Okay. C info the clutch.

[Uncle Ocho]

God.

[Joe Johnson]

Jared Allen is only 6 9. We think he's taller than he is only. Well, he played like he was 59 tonight.

[Uncle Ocho]

He got that long ass reef too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, Joe. They say only 6 9.

[Uncle Ocho]

Like they just like, they just walking around like you just walk outside and see somebody sick now. Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco]

I got. Damn cave was so smooth tonight, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

But hey, Joe. Six foot nine with a seven five.

[Uncle Ocho]

See what I'm saying? See what I'm saying?

[Chad Ochocinco]

So he might as well be 727 1. Might as well be.

[Joe Johnson]

Do you understand how long that. How. How ridiculous?

[Uncle Ocho]

People don't understand that, huh? They can't even understand that. I think it is for guys like us who've played the sport. And you played against guys like that. You like. Damn, this joker got some long arms.

[Joe Johnson]

Love the show. Are we sure James Harden is a better one on one player than Allen Iverson? Joe, you played against both of them.

[Uncle Ocho]

AI was slithery He. He had a nice left to right crossover and he could. Man, listen, both of them were bad. But I love AI, bro. You know, I'm talking about from the time I. I caught him at Georgetown all the way through the pros. He was. He was one of those little dudes who you like. Ain't no way when he get to the pros he gonna be able to do all this. He did that and some man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hell, the hell you say.

[Uncle Ocho]

Just. Just a hell of an athlete, bro. Nice.

[Joe Johnson]

Mr. Sharp, you have to start listening to your co host when they're talking or trying to talk. My guy, we know you're the boss and sign the checks, but you have to start allowing your co host to get a word in or 7 or 70. So now I'm doing a three hour show. It ain't nobody talking but me.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, this cool.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all complain. Ocho was sitting there last night. Ocho say something. Ocho blink if you in trouble. Ocho do this, man. Ocho don't say nothing. Ocho don't know nothing about basketball. Now. Ocho don't talk enough. Joe, man. Hey, man, come on, Joe, man. You ain't gotta agree with Joe. Y' all ain't gonna never be satisfied. So guess what? We're gonna do it. We want y' all to keep on watching, and we're gonna keep on doing it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, and. And hey, I do know basketball.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come with the territory, fellas.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey. Yeah, I forgot. What. Hey, what night that was. I forgot I knew exactly what night they talked about one night where I ain't. I ain't know what the hell y' all were talking about, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

What they said last night. Because, Antoine, they call you Frozone. They say, man, Ocho just blink if you're in trouble. If somebody got you held against your will, just blink two times.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on. When it. When it came to the Knicks, boy, I was on fire, boy. What are they talking about?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Joe, they've been trying. David, first of all, it was, man, you remember what it was. You ready to comment? Man, Unc trying to steal rail from. Ocho got some for real. It's always something. Yeah, man, that's why. Hey, okay, go have the show. Because he keep bringing rail on. Well, that's Ocho. Ocho want to put on. Okay, fine. I ain't got no problem with it. That's his camera. That's his lens. But they were all. They always try to create something.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Then turn to. Try to turn it around and say, well, they they bit. No, it's not. Y' all trying to create a situation.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah. Hey, but, hey, we gotta. Hey, we gotta get Cambodia on here. What?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Why you do. Oh, no, stop.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hold on. No, let me tell you something. We can have. We can have another show right under the umbrella of. Of Club Shay Shay, right? Or Nightcap. What is it Go. Well, umbrella, how we say it?

[Joe Johnson]

Shay Media.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, under Shay Shay Media, right? Like a. Like a. Like a. Give me. Give me an idea. You know, couple. Like a couple things. Like.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, we had one of those shows, and then like, a month after we launched the show, you broke up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

We had a show? A show just like. What you talking about.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, but that didn't have to break up. They ain't had to do me. That could have kept going, though.

[Joe Johnson]

No, it couldn't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no. Well, hey, let's. Hey, we can relaunch it.

[Uncle Ocho]

What was wrong with y'?

[Joe Johnson]

All?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, we gonna relaunch it. Hey, I'm ready. Me. Cambodia.

[Joe Johnson]

We gonna. We gonna let Cambodia sit this one out because we don't want. We don't want nobody to think you tried to throw shade or try to put. Throw something, so we're not gonna do that. Oh, nah, nah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, but no, we good. We good, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You heard me. Okay. You heard me. Yeah, over there. Oh, yeah, we good. We good like that? Yeah, we good.

[Joe Johnson]

Low. You good?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell, yeah. All three us. It could be all three of us.

[Uncle Ocho]

All three of us. What?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Meet me real in Cambodia in. In, like, a whole new.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, he, he, he, he, he.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, he lost all his media enterprise that could be over somebody else.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, we're grown.

[Uncle Ocho]

We grown.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We grown. And it'd be like. It could be like a conversation, like the Ocho experience, Like what it's like to date someone that cheats him.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I dig what you're saying, Ojo.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, you know. You know, little different topics that are interesting that nobody else know.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Lord have mercy. What'd you think about that, Ocho? You pregnant or got Covid.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, and when y' all make me

[Joe Johnson]

love,

[Uncle Ocho]

give me a little bit of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Appreciate that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. God damn. I told y', all, y'. All. Oh, it gonna be gone, Joe. It's been like eight, nine days, ain't it?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, nah, it's go. It's gone. It's going there. But, hey, hey, listen, will you make me laugh? I don't know what it is when it came back.

[Joe Johnson]

That thing circle back on your ass. Both Donovan Mitchell and Bam Adebayo are a thousand percent champions every time they go home to their girlfriends. Coco Jones good?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they got great.

[Uncle Ocho]

They do.

[Joe Johnson]

But in it, when you play in a professional sport, that is don't matter.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah.

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't nobody coming to see them because of their significant others. And bless them, Coco's unbelievable. Asia, we know. Hey, when she's all said and done, she's probably right. Now I say she's the greatest, gonna be the greatest woman's basketball player ever. But they ain't got nothing to do. We talking about basketball. I want to know what they're gonna do. I, I, I'm not looking. When I watch them play, I ain't thinking about this significant other. And that's not a knock.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, but I, I, I, I like the support that they show them, though.

[Joe Johnson]

I know too well. Maybe Asia might need to get out there and help Bam. That'll get them. Cause they, they ain't going nowhere soon anytime soon. Well, they might need to trade for kd. They've been wanting to get Katie.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what? You, you might be on to something. Who they giving up, though? They giving up hero.

[Joe Johnson]

Tyler hero. They go, they gonna whomever. They're gonna want where and they're gonna want Tyler hero. If you want Giannis, you're gonna have to give up both of those guys. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

If you can. If you can hold on to where, though? I hold on to where? Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hell no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, this dumb.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm a die hard Eagles fan and Knicks fan. When the Eagles won the super bowl won the bowl in 2017, Philly erupted. And Philly and New York will erupt just like Philly. Yep. New York clown.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm telling you, they gotta have National Guard out there, man. Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

Draymond tried to be slick. He went to high school and then bypassed college, forgetting that. The fact that river stayed one year at Duke and led his team in scoring.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he had a hell of a year at Duke. He made that clutch ass shot against North Carolina. You remember that, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I remember that. Hell yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's the biggest rivalry, probably in sports,

[Joe Johnson]

it's one of them. I mean, you got Alabama, Auburn. You got Michigan, Ohio State. You got North Carolina, Duke, Green Bay, Chicago.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's up there.

[Joe Johnson]

Cowboys. It's up there. Yeah, for sure. Pittsburgh Ravens. Sheldon Pope is joker on the Denver Mount Rushmore.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, you Got seven. Yeah, I think. Yeah, you have to be. Cause nobody from the. The Rockies have won a championship. So I think him. 7.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man with 3. MVP.

[Joe Johnson]

Hockey. Probably. I would probably say probably Joe Sackett for the ABs. Probably td. Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I would go.

[Joe Johnson]

I would go. I would go. I would put Sack. Because, I mean, Forsberg was good. Frostburg was good. Patrick Wall was good. But I would go. Joe Sackett, seven yoke. Can the Knicks keep up with OKC and a potential finals? Man, that'd be a great matchup. Brunson. I mean, Brunson. But they got guys that can throw it. They got guys. They got heart. They got og they got Mikhail Bridges. They got guys they can throw at. You do, bro. But they got guys that can rebound. They got Cat. That could probably offset a lot of what. What Shay does. They got Mitchell Robinson that can bang. They got the other kid that they brought in.

[Uncle Ocho]

It'll be.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, it'd be a great matchup.

[Uncle Ocho]

That'll be great.

[Joe Johnson]

We might get a chance. We might get a chance.

[Uncle Ocho]

That'll be great for basketball. If them two teams can make it to the finals. Oh, we. The ratings will be through the roof.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yes, Lord. Cause you got New York. Oh, my goodness. I'm not a guy that. I'm not a guy that minds flopping all that much, but SGA overdoes it. I mean, he was trying to. Every play tonight, even on passes. I still got Jokic as the best player in the NBA, even after a bad series.

[Uncle Ocho]

I understand what he's saying. I thought Early Shea was a little overzealous with some of the excessive flailing that he was doing, but I. I got him as mvp.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, maybe. Maybe I missed it, but I haven't heard Spirit Airlines representatives say a damn thing about the airlines being shut down. Word that accountability for America's abandoned. Out their money.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Out what money? Everybody gets refund, especially if you fly that refund.

[Joe Johnson]

You shut down. I'm at the airport. You shut down. Damn. A refund.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, if you get the refund, you can book with another flight.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I, I.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no. See, that's inconvenienced,

[Chad Ochocinco]

man. Listen, man, I'm already pissed off about my goddamn airline being gone now, you know, So, I mean, I'm. I've been doing well. I've been coping. And, you know, the only airline man since 1992 has never had a fatality, never had a crash, man, despite what people may say about, you know, customer service and the fights, you know, them. You know, them throwing Your luggage off the plane and stuff like that. We never had an issue. We gonna get you from point A.

[Joe Johnson]

You did have an issue. You had enough. You not enough people book flights. That's the issue you had.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, it ain't. The issue we have is the goddamn. Goddamn fuel prices. Okay, Guess what we needed a bailout.

[Joe Johnson]

No doubt. Whoa, whoa, whoa. How you taking American taxpayer money and bail it out?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey. They take out. They take. Take some taxpayers money for every guy with my money.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no. Give me my ish back. Give me my tax money back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's all. Hey, listen, it's all good. We'll be back, and we'll be back stronger than ever.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay? I have two kids going on a field trip tomorrow at the same time. Which one do I go to? Rain, lightning or Noah's thunder? Lake of the home in four. Got two kids on a field trip at the same time. Which one does she go to? Or he goes.

[Uncle Ocho]

What they doing?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, boy. Boy or girls?

[Joe Johnson]

Now you just said he got two kids going on a field trip at the same time. Which one does it go to that matters?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Depending on the boy would understand me going. Going with yourself? I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with your sister on a. On a trip. That's a good one.

[Joe Johnson]

What you doing, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, we need a little more context, huh? I mean, it's just you ain't telling me what one doing or what the other doing.

[Joe Johnson]

It's just it. Field trip. What the hell you doing?

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm saying, what we going on the field trip.

[Joe Johnson]

Might be some cool stuff. You might be okay. You going to this.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm going to the zoo now. I like going to the zoo. I don't know about y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Other one's going to the aquarium.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm going to the zoo. I'm going to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm going.

[Joe Johnson]

I like.

[Uncle Ocho]

I like to see the animals, bro. I'm a. I'm a huge fan of the animals. I love seeing animals, but. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. I'm go. One of us. Hey, mom, you taking off a day. You taking off. If you work at a half day tomorrow and you go into. You going to. On the field trip with them. Okay, so. Oh, if you could make a dream movie, what would it be about? What? Five actor actresses, dead or alive, would you start in it?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Five. Five is too many. Five is too many.

[Uncle Ocho]

But, you know, give me a Roko. I want a Roko. Romantic comedy. How many? Who? I want acting in it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. Who you want who you wanted your dream movie.

[Uncle Ocho]

Gotta have Eddie Murphy, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who?

[Joe Johnson]

Your movie.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ocho Shoot, Right? That's a good one right there, boy. If anybody gotta, gotta. You know, as an actor that's gonna play me, it probably have to be Tyrese or probably asap.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, you won't get that ASAP up, will you?

[Chad Ochocinco]

What? I mean, obviously got to be someone that look identical or somewhat like me. I mean, that's. That's. That's. I mean, that's it. Maybe Boo King Woodbine. But what type of movie? I don't know. For me, my personality, it got to be a comedy. Gotta be got.

[Uncle Ocho]

What you got?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because you.

[Uncle Ocho]

You put.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You put me in something serious, boy. Like, Nah, you know, I'm.

[Joe Johnson]

What you call them. I'm suspicious. Yeah. Give me Denzel or Samuel Jackson.

[Uncle Ocho]

You can't go wrong, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Denzel. I mean, if Denzel get. If Denzel get on anything. I mean, I saw him. The first movie I saw Denzel in was he played Biko about Bantu. Steven Biko in apartheid South Africa. He was. Ended up killing him, basically. He was a very similar situation to a Mandela. And Denzel don't do.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, he don't, bro. I wonder. Hey, I was. He gonna make another Equalizer, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You like. You like all three of them?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, man. He'd be killing them to me. Yeah, like, he'd be killing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, speaking of Denzel, y' all seen a new man on Fire on Netflix?

[Uncle Ocho]

I have.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Did you like it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I got. I gotta check.

[Joe Johnson]

It ain't Denzil, right? Any last wishes? I wish you had had more time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Classic.

[Joe Johnson]

Cry Freedom. Whoa, B. Go Keep on marching. Y' all know I got that on dv. You know what, a laser discard joke?

[Uncle Ocho]

No. What's that?

[Joe Johnson]

Who they were? Giant. They're giant CDs, but they play movies.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember them. That's back.

[Joe Johnson]

I still.

[Uncle Ocho]

Do you.

[Joe Johnson]

I still be watching. I got. Oh, yeah. I got. I got them. I still watch. Sometimes I go home and be watching. I'll be keeping all my stuff.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't see how you do it, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

I got all my. I got my old CDs. All my old CDs. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey. What is. What that mean? Where. Well, when it comes to me. When it comes to detachment and having to detach from something. Joe, why do I do it so easy? Is. Is that some type of. You think I need, like, therapy or something?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, you got some people who just hurt us, who just keep everything that they got. Or the head. And some people, they don't. It don't make them no difference. You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

Right. I'm a. I'm big in the sentimentality. I. I hate. You know, because I look at it like, man, I work. Man, do you know how hard I work for this? I mean, I wanted. Man, I saw that thing and they're

[Uncle Ocho]

like, man, I really want that.

[Joe Johnson]

It's just hard for me to get up off it. Like those banging olives. You remember banging Olafson?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Guys, I got that five. I got the. I got the one single, and I got the one. But I ain't getting up off that.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know you paid a pretty penny for that. Boy, they ain't nothing cheap thing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The banging. The banging.

[Uncle Ocho]

Banging Olson.

[Joe Johnson]

Banging Olson. They make.

[Uncle Ocho]

They make good speakers and headphones.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I know. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they used to. They started that. The. They had a. A thing that you could put the CDs in there and the CDs would play. It would play the CDs. DVD. Excuse me. DVDs. Uh, in your TV.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey. Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Almost like a nick.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, speaking of CDs, I used to have that big booklet back in the day with all your CDs in there.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's what. I got mine here right now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, I wouldn't. I wonder where my booklet is, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, I think I lost. I lost that.

[Joe Johnson]

I had a couple bookings.

[Uncle Ocho]

Boy. I had some boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. Yeah, But I got him in Atlanta, right up under the thing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I had a nice. Had a nice Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, in alphabetical order at that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yup. What up, uncle no show ISO. Y' all should make a big three. A big three. Basketball team. Team nightcap.

[Uncle Ocho]

Who we gonna play again?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Everybody else.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, let's do it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cause you know. You know I'm gonna. I'm give you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, we need you. We need you to play your role now, Ocho. We need you to play your role.

[Joe Johnson]

We know you're gonna give us nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm gonna be like Kyrie.

[Joe Johnson]

See, there you go.

[Uncle Ocho]

What are you saying? We don't need that. We don't need Kyrie on this team. We good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, who the hell gonna steal the ship? Cause uncanny.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, you just.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all just give me the damn ball. That's it. You gotta worry about nothing else here.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe. Say y' all rebound and let me do the rest.

[Uncle Ocho]

I need you to hustle and play defense, Ocho. Just hustle and play defense.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that. Hey, that. I'm. I'm Hustle man too. Joe. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be in a. Well, you ain't getting nothing. Hey, you ain't getting. Hey. Hey, Joe. Hey. I can slide these puppies like no other boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They used to. Hey. They called me Fred. And stay on the guy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, and when we pass it to you, we need you to make your damn layups, okay?

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no. When they pass it to you. Oh, yo, pass it back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, I'm ready.

[Joe Johnson]

Do shooting sleeves actually help your shot? Or is it just.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's drip, man. But it's drip. But it's a lot of cats who, you know, got that bursa sec. What is called bursa. And, and I had.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep, I had one of them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I've had elbow surgery. So some of us really need it, but some. It's just an accessory. Yeah, they, they, they just.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I told the story. He actually needed it because he. Yeah, versa. And so he put it on there and to keep the color down and people thought he would.

[Uncle Ocho]

And now it's a whole trend. His versus it was. It was like big and full of like.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Like.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, I'm falling on that turf. You fall in the right place on

[Joe Johnson]

that turf and that thing blow up every time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I hate. Hey, Joe. It feel funny when you be.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Walking.

[Joe Johnson]

Because. Oo Cinco. Cinco de Mayo. OKC window. UNC is still Lakers and 5, though. Nah, but we gonna get a game. I know that by being Star Wars Week. Would y' all be a red lightsaber sith or any color lightsaber Jedi Knight?

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't gonna lie. I don't know nothing about no damn Star Wars.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I ain't. I ain't that big in the sci fi either, I guess. I want to be a Jedi.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, so what you know about. What you know about Star Wars?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Shoot. I know. I know Yoda, huh? Yeah. Yeah, you thought.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, yeah. RTD2RTD3PO. Darth Vader.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, we. We all know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Luke Skywalker.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, we all know about the same Princess Leia.

[Joe Johnson]

But I think I'm gonna be a Jedi. I want to be a Jedi.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I want to be. I want to beat Chewbacca.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, you. You could be Chewbacca. Why don't people talk about how good Walter Payton was when mentioning great running backs? Cuz a lot of people don't remember when Walter played.

[Uncle Ocho]

How many games were they playing back then?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, originally they were playing 14. Then they moved it to 16.

[Uncle Ocho]

What is that now, is that what they're trying to put it?

[Joe Johnson]

17 about to be 18.

[Uncle Ocho]

So all them little records that was going on back then, people breaking them.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. What?

[Uncle Ocho]

Why don't they mention Walter, bro?

[Joe Johnson]

OJ's record? I think he. Roy for two. What do you write for? 273. I think OJ had the record. I think Walter broke it on. Broke it on Thanksgiving, I think.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, Walter Payne was nice boy.

[Joe Johnson]

And then Corey Dillon ended up breaking it against the.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Again, I guess. Against who?

[Joe Johnson]

The Broncos?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

But I wasn't there, so I don't know nothing about it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Dylan was a bad boy, wasn't he, man?

[Joe Johnson]

And then Jamal broke it. Cause Dylan went for 278, Jamal went for 290, 295, and AP went for 296. But I think. I think walter had 275. I think o.j. had 273. And watermelon had 274. 275. Ocho. Appreciate that song suggestion. Here is one of y' all ladies. Oh, honey. By the delegation.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm. Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now.

[Joe Johnson]

That completes this episode of Nightcap. Want to thank each and every one of you for joining us tonight. As you watch the Thunder and the Detroit whole serve at home take 10 leads the Thunder 110890 over the Lakers. Detroit 1111101 over Cleveland. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite huck. And there's my partner and co host, a six time pro bowler from the Cincinnati.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey Joe. You see that Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, University of Arkansas alumni that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by La Portier, head over to la portierconjac.com to purchase you a bottle. If one is not available in your state or city, it is a premium VSOP cognac. Remember we do have the OG bottle which is the 750, but now we have the Junior which is the 375. Same great quality, same great taste, same smoothness compared against other cognacs. You may or may not try it and you'll see the difference. You'll be able to taste the difference immediate. Please drink responsibly and stay safe again. Thunder take a 1 oh lead thanks to a 10890 victory over the Lakers. Chad Holmgren led the way, 24 points, 12 rebounds, 3 blocks, a steal. Did it all tonight. Hey, we got your favorite guest coming on tomorrow. Cornbread. Will be on with us tomorrow. Detroit take a 10 lead thanks to a 111101 victory over the Cleveland Cavaliers. Thank you guys for joining us. We look forward to seeing you guys tomorrow night.

[Uncle Ocho]

Peace out,

[Joe Johnson]

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