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Former Player 1 (6:06)

There's something wrong. Listen, where there's smoke, there's fire. Always. No matter what Drew Rosenhaus says, You know, no matter. And listen, Cheetah said what he wanted to say. There were frustrations. What led to that, not going back into the game. We would never know the true answer. We'll never know the true answer. Listen, I can sit back. I can sit here and call him and be like, hey, bro, what happened? What really happened? Why didn't you go back into the game? What was wrong? Were you tired of getting cardio? Were you tired of the fact that they weren't able to get to the ball? You know, are you upset that, you know, the season, what isn't what it should have been for you? Obviously. Obviously, with tours, injuries early in the season, and then not having the time, the adequate time, or getting the opportunity needed once he came back in the game to get your numbers, where they should be for the type of player that you are. Listen, Reek, if you see this, I mean, it's Cheetah. Justin Jefferson had a good season this year. Jamar Chase had a phenomenal, obviously, Triple Crown winner this year. Tyreek is still the best receiver in the NFL. I don't want people to forget that. I don't want you to forgive. Now, I know what we see. What have you done for me lately? Obviously, there are reasons why the season didn't go the way it did this year. There's reasons why. We understand that. But Cheetah is still the most dangerous receiver in today's NFL. I don't want people in the chat to ever forget that.

Advertiser 2 (7:17)

I believe he's the most dangerous, but I believe as far as total receiver, I think Chase and Jefferson has passed.

Former Player 1 (7:26)

Listen, there's more than one way to skin a cat, right? Yes.

Advertiser 2 (7:29)

Yes, absolutely.

Former Player 1 (7:30)

Yeah, but listen, Chase is scary.

Advertiser 2 (7:33)

Just catfish, though, right?

Former Player 1 (7:35)

Huh?

Advertiser 2 (7:35)

You talk about skin a catfish, right?

Former Player 1 (7:37)

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Advertiser 2 (7:38)

Okay, Okay. I want to do. I don't want neither to come in here and try to shut us down, Ojo.

Former Player 1 (7:41)

Right. Oh, my bad. Hey. What? I'm just saying from. From an instance of who you don't want to face, who you don't want, who you don't want to touch the ball and have any kind of crease or any kind of angle. Hey, listen, you might as well. The fat lady might as well start singing. That will always be Tyreek. I don't want people to lose sight of how great Tyreek Hill is because of a down season. I don't know what his frustrations were.

Advertiser 2 (8:06)

That's the thing, Ocho. Because, Ocho, you can't complain. You went for the money. And in nobody's mind did they ever think that Tua was better than Mahomes. Now, you got the money. You secured your family. Now, if you blew through 72 million guarantee, probably about. Probably made like $90 million over the last four years. 100 million in the last four years. If you blow through that. Hey, I don't know what to tell your Joe.

Former Player 1 (8:36)

Nah.

Advertiser 2 (8:37)

But you cannot complain. Oh, I want to win. Really? You left the. Over the last five years, who's won more games than the Kansas City Chiefs? Ocho, if it's about winning. Oh, I. Man, you know, I ain't used to this.

Former Player 1 (8:52)

Wait, wait, wait a minute. Now, we have to understand why he left the Chiefs now. Based on what? Based on who Tyreek was and what he was bringing to the table. They weren't paying him what he was worth, so I understand why he left to go to the Dolphins. You know, and not only that, he didn't miss a goddamn beat in any category as a receiver. He didn't miss a beat. Remember what Tyreekill did just last year?

Advertiser 2 (9:12)

Yes, he had a yard, but.

Former Player 1 (9:15)

Yeah. The only reason things weren't the same this year is because of the injuries to Tua. You know, Ocho, there's a reason why quarterbacks, when you have a backup, there's a reason why the backup is the backup. There's a reason why.

Advertiser 2 (9:28)

But you gotta be the same, no matter what. You got to show up with your hard hat and your lunch pail regardless. Because now it seems like Tyreek's a front runner. When things are going good, he's there. Why we didn't hear nothing about no broker risk all year long. Let me ask you this.

Former Player 1 (9:46)

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, Wait a minute, wait a minute. Remember there, there were, there were a few games where he was on the injury, the injury list due to his wrist. You know, he could, he could have gotten surgery, but it was messed up. But he kept playing. He just had. He had to take that real heavy.

Advertiser 2 (10:00)

Let me ask you a question. If Tyreek makes the Pro bowl and he gets 1400 yards, do we hear anything about this risk? Yes or no?

Former Player 1 (10:06)

No, sir.

Advertiser 2 (10:07)

So why are we hearing about it now? Drew is trying to give him a cop out that risk. His leg wasn't broken.

Former Player 1 (10:12)

No, no.

Advertiser 2 (10:13)

I'm Ojo, B. You know how I am. Ojo.

Former Player 1 (10:18)

Yeah, I know, I know how you. I know, I know, I know, I know, I know how you are. But what I'm not going to do is I'm not going to make excuses. I'm not going to do that.

Advertiser 2 (10:23)

Thank you. I appreciate that.

Former Player 1 (10:24)

Ojo. He did have a wrist injury. They brought it up a few times earlier in the season. I don't know if he landed wrong and then did something. I think he needed surgery, but he opted out of getting surgery and decided just to tape it up. Very, very he. And continue playing. That's all.

Advertiser 2 (10:41)

Look at the first game he had that game winning touchdown. Did he call? Remember that? What about them 100 yard games that he had? I. I couldn't tell. Could you tell? His wrist was hurting. He looked like cheetah. Okay. Oh, now it's time to welcome in Baltimore Ravens receiver. He got the party started Saturday night early. He caught the touchdown. The first touchdown from Lamar Jackson. Rashad Bateman. Rashad, how's it going, bro? Man, thanks for joining us. We're doing great, Rashad. Look, you guys played unbelievable on. On Saturday. You guys dominated the ball game. You got off to an early start. The first drive you go down score a touchdown. But what was the. What was. What's what? This, this team, this offense, this team. It looks different this playoff compared to last year. Is there a difference? What have you noticed different? Is the practices different? Are you guys meeting different? Did Coach Harbaugh change anything? Because you guys had a look in your eye, that like look. Yeah, we're excited about this one, but we got something else in mind.

Current Player 1 (11:48)

Yeah, man. I would definitely say the team is on the, you know, agenda right now. Lamar Derek, you know, leading us in the right direction. But no, ain't nothing different. I would definitely say, you know, players just locked in right now, man, ranking going crazy, man, everything hitting. So you know, man, we just gotta, you know, man, keep Doing what we're doing.

Former Player 1 (12:07)

Yeah, I like it. Look shot. What's up, man? It's. Oh, man, huge fan, man. Listen, speak to our audience, man, and myself also and, and, and let us and, and Unc know why you believe Lamar Jackson is the mvp.

Current Player 1 (12:24)

I mean, at this point, man, I only know what we're going off or no more. I don't know if we're going off that film or what, man. But know my eyes, I mean, everything speak for itself. I mean, d go out, made plays, you know, week in and week out. And not just, you know, regular plays, you know, amazing plays. I mean, the stats are there. I mean, you turn the film, he jump out. It ain't even just about the numbers, you know, at this point, it's just, you know, saying you can't deny that Lamar Jackson is on the field no matter who on the team. So I mean, I ain't the judge, but hey, you know what I'm saying? I definitely think it's, you know, MV3.

Advertiser 2 (12:59)

Year babe when you guys found out like the Baltimore Ravens have signed Derrick Henry to a two year deal. Knowing, watching him from afar. I don't know if you were on that team the first year that they played you guys in the playoffs. They came in there on the divisional round. I don't think he was there. I think he came the next year. But when you watched him, obviously you watched him on film before. What is it about him? How is he able to do that? It seems like he gets stronger as the game goes on and that's when those big runs start to take place late in the third quarter.

Current Player 1 (13:38)

I've seen a guy like that, you know, at this level, you know, every day. I mean, you see why, you know, he, the player he is, dude, eat healthy, dude, you know what I'm saying? Practice hard. I'm talking about, you know what I'm saying, hard. First one in, last one leave. I mean, he do all the things you would, you know, think that a rookie was doing, you know what I'm saying? He, you know, I'm saying a veteran, you know, hall of Famer. So there's no question to why, you know, he haven't success, you know, this late in the league. So I mean, you know, I, I guess ain't no age, you know. This running back thing right now, Cabro, cabro to that be right now. He toing it.

Advertiser 2 (14:16)

Zay. Excuse me. I mean B, you guys go get Z flowers back this week. Now, you guys probably knew early in the week that he wasn't going to be there. That meant you and other guys were going to have to step up. Mark Andrews, likely you guys were going to have to step up and carry the low. Aguilar. So now that there's a possibility that he's going to return this week, what does he bring? What addition does he bring now to the table?

Current Player 1 (14:41)

When you go into Buffalo, spread the field out. I mean, this year I think that's the biggest difference for us. It's been able to spread the ball out, you know what I'm saying? All different areas. We've got a lot of playmakers over the field, you know, as we see, you know, anybody can have a good game for Lamar, Darren, Mark Zayn, myself, you know, it just depends on how the game going, you know. But getting Z back, you know, would definitely be big plus, you know, if they happen. But you know, we're just gonna see how that plays out Right now when.

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Former Player 1 (19:46)

Listen, most of the time, B, you know, during this time of year in the postseason, towards the end of the season, most players are banged up. Nobody's really truly 100%. And you've dealt with some tough injuries early in your career. Do you feel now you've turned a corner and what helped you cope with extensive rehab to get you to the point where you are now?

Current Player 1 (20:05)

Yeah, man, you gonna lie, man, that was a tough time. That was a tough time right there, man. But I definitely say that I crossed the hump last year. My first time, you know, playing a full season healthy. So this is my, you know, second year playing healthy, you know, finally being involved in offense. But, man, to get over that, man, that just took God and, and mental strength. Cause there was a time, but I thought it was all was over. But, you know, at the end of the day, because in the NFL, man, it's a draft area, these people trying to pay somebody every year. So, hey, man, your time, the time is ticking. So, you know, just being able to, you know, had a mindset, dog mentality, but just keep going. You know, I'm saying, know who I am. You know, saying, I know I'll be open. I know I can get open. I know I can make plays. So, man, just being able to believe in myself and continue to continue to go out and do that.

Former Player 1 (20:53)

Yeah, well, most definitely. Also, I want to extend my services while I'm here now. We talk about, you know, your time taken and being available. I can extend your playing career by 10, 12 years as a nutritionist. Now, if you want to hire me, you know, I can help you out with that part. I'm not sure if you have nutritionist. I don't want to step on nobody toe. But we can talk about that later off camera and do a little business. I don't charge number 20 a week. So you add that $20 a week for six months, that really ain't nothing. That's a drop in the bag.

Current Player 1 (21:23)

What McDonald's paying you. Yeah, yeah, I figure, I figured, I figured. So.

Advertiser 2 (21:32)

Bae, talk, talk to us about, like when you run around, obviously you expect the ball. 1, 2, 3. Ball might come out. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Ball might come out. But you have to stay alive. That's Lamar Jackson back There. And he can extend the play 3 seconds, to 5 seconds, to 8 seconds, to 10 seconds. And on that first touchdown run, I. Excuse me, that first touchdown pass, that is exactly what happened. He was able to extend, extend, extend. You start one way and then come back. Tell us, like, what is your thought process when you leave the huddle? Okay, they call the play. Ready, break. And you leave the huddle. What's going through your mind?

Current Player 1 (22:09)

You better. You better be in shape, man. That's why it's important. It's important to be on the field and be able to get those reps in with Lamar, man, because he the type of quarterback, man, you gotta, you know what I'm saying, take practice to take rhythm, you know, you stay alive.

Advertiser 2 (22:26)

Stay alive.

Current Player 1 (22:27)

You know what I'm saying? Play like that because, you know, it ain't easy, bro. It ain't easy, man. A lot of people can't even relate to that type of ball. So, I mean, it's tough.

Advertiser 2 (22:38)

Do you guys practice that? Because, like, sometimes, like, like a. A scramble drill. Do you guys. Do you guys, like, do they allow him to keep the ball? Cause a lot of times we didn't. We didn't do that. I mean, after, like, certain things, you know that coaches just blow the whistle, but you really can't blow the whistle because it's so hard to get his ass on the ground. And so you really, really have to stay alive for at least five seconds. I mean, maybe Coach Harbaugh don't even blow the whistle till the whistle get to like 7 to 10 seconds because you got to stay alive because they're not getting him down within the first time.

Current Player 1 (23:09)

We practicing hard, definitely let the play go about 10 seconds longer than a normal. A normal coach would because that's how long, like, l can extend to play. Yeah, yeah.

Former Player 1 (23:20)

Listen, I got a good question. This is a good one. And listen, I. I am a. I am an enthusiast for. Great defensive back player, you know, and you've been in your short career so far. Who do you think the best DB is in the league? And who's the best DB that you face to date so far?

Current Player 1 (23:42)

Go. So Pat Certane, you probably top in the lead right now.

Former Player 1 (23:45)

Yeah.

Advertiser 2 (23:46)

Okay.

Former Player 1 (23:47)

Okay. Have you had. Have you had an opportunity to go against Derek Stingley yet? What do you think about Derek Stingley?

Current Player 1 (23:52)

He nice. He nice for sure, but I definitely take Pat open.

Advertiser 2 (23:55)

Okay.

Former Player 1 (23:56)

Okay. I like, I like.

Advertiser 2 (23:57)

Yeah, yeah. Pat fluid, man. He just like. He gliding. He's just so effort. I mean, he just in and out. Of them breaks. I mean, the way he can close on the ball. He's long.

Current Player 1 (24:07)

He got long fast too. To be that size.

Advertiser 2 (24:11)

Yeah, he bigger than you think he was. He like six two, six three.

Current Player 1 (24:14)

At least six three. For sure.

Advertiser 2 (24:16)

Yeah.

Current Player 1 (24:17)

That's all you can move to be a bit.

Former Player 1 (24:19)

Yeah. Hold on. I need you to do it on table and pass Marlon Humphrey and Nate Wiggins. I need to pass him a message for you. Matter of fact, text them you get a chance and tell them what's up, that they can't stop me, they couldn't cover me and they need to be thanking God. I'm not planning this era.

Current Player 1 (24:37)

Oh, no. You. I bet I'll send a message. I'm gonna see what they say. I'm gonna see what they say.

Advertiser 2 (24:44)

Babe. Babe. What was your welcome to the NFL moment?

Current Player 1 (24:48)

My rookie year Rokuin. You know my team now. We went to Chicago, bro. Not my helmet off. I ain't never. I ain't never had. I ain't never had that before in my whole career for why I never had my helmet knocked up. I said, yeah, these boy get paid. These boy getting paid. I said, let me tighten up. Yeah. Color screen put that.

Advertiser 2 (25:08)

Yeah.

Current Player 1 (25:08)

Helmet came off. Helmet came off.

Advertiser 2 (25:11)

Yeah. Is that it? That's what people don't realize when you run that jailbreak screen, the bubble screen or whatever you guys call it. It's that inside that hurt. Because them D line and them linebackers, they coming from in here and that's what you want them to do, turn back into the headache.

Current Player 1 (25:25)

No, no, that's oo. He seen what happening now. You know what going down now.

Former Player 1 (25:32)

I lived in the trenches, though. I live in the trench. You gotta think, but you gotta think.

Advertiser 2 (25:36)

I did.

Former Player 1 (25:36)

I did think he might have been.

Advertiser 2 (25:40)

Born in the trenches, but he ain't living no trenches. Don't let it fool you, baby.

Former Player 1 (25:45)

Man, listen, you gotta think I was 6, 4, 2, 3 when I was playing. So, you know, I. It was nothing to me be down there.

Current Player 1 (25:51)

That's crazy, bro.

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Former Player 1 (25:53)

Yeah.

Current Player 1 (25:54)

And McDonald's had a boy at 2:30.

Former Player 1 (25:56)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Advertiser 2 (25:57)

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Current Player 1 (26:04)

I know. I'll be watching.

Advertiser 2 (26:05)

Watch. So now look. This is a rematch. Buffalo, they came in in week four. You guys did a job on them. Derek Henry ran. Wow. That was like. Okay. They put Derrick Henry in the eye formation. They tossed it to him. They handed to him and he ran wild. What do you guys expect? Buffalo? Look, this is the rematch the two MVP front running candidates, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. But this time it's in their.

Current Player 1 (26:33)

I mean I definitely say, you know, like any other person gotta start the run game with anybody, man. It's to the point. I don't know how to like how to defend it, you know what I'm saying? You gotta account for all the players you gotta defend, you know, I'm saying all links of the field, you know, when you play us. So I would just say, man, you gotta be prepared for all. I mean we don't show that we're capable being you on the run game, you know, pass game, screen game, you know, we healthy, you know, we got guys back on the field. So you know, man, preparation, practice, gotta go out and you know what I'm saying? Execute. It's always game plan execution.

Advertiser 2 (27:13)

Last year, bae, the season did not end the way you wanted it to. You got the MVP front runner, you got an almost 2,000 yard rusher in your backfield. You got the first time a Ravens drafted receiver has gone to the Pro Bowl. You guys are load. You guys had the most, I think you guys had the most Pro Bowlers. I think you had nine Pro Bowlers. You got a lot of all pro guys over there. If you guys don't get to and win the super bowl, is this season a disappointment in your eyes?

Current Player 1 (27:39)

To us, man, how we view it, I mean, if we don't do that, I feel like that's every year, you know what I'm saying? We hold ourselves to that standard. That's a standard. That's it. You know what I'm saying? This organization, you know what I'm saying? Let's go win Super Bowls. Won't take nothing less, you know what I'm saying? That's what we striving for always. So that's the end goal. The goal is to make it there. And then when we don't, then of course, you know, so we feel like we fail. We got all the tools, we got everything we need, you know what I'm saying? To be successful top to bottom. So we just got to go out and do it now.

Advertiser 2 (28:07)

Yeah, yeah. That's what.

Former Player 1 (28:10)

Come on man, don't. Come on, don't do that, man. Don't do that.

Advertiser 2 (28:16)

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Current Player 1 (28:19)

Don'T listen to the flower.

Former Player 1 (28:25)

He played for the Bronco. He played for the Broncos for 12 years. He just happened to be on the Ravens for two. That don't even that.

Current Player 1 (28:32)

That happen to work out. He just happened to work out, bro.

Advertiser 2 (28:36)

Yeah. Hold on. Hey, hey. They don't. Hey, hey, B. Do they happen to just get either.

Current Player 1 (28:41)

You gotta work. You gotta work for that one.

Former Player 1 (28:43)

Here we go.

Current Player 1 (28:43)

You gotta work for that one. You gotta work for that one.

Advertiser 2 (28:46)

Hey. Oo. Why you be. You better check somebody. Now, if you. If you're a Raven fan and y'all know anything about that 2000 Ravens. Okay, I did my part on the offense.

Former Player 1 (28:57)

Listen, I understand you play that trophy right there. That trophy you carrying that trophy is because of the Raven 2000 defense.

Advertiser 2 (29:04)

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Former Player 1 (29:07)

They only. They only scored with nine points a game.

Advertiser 2 (29:15)

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Former Player 1 (29:18)

Matter of fact. Hey, I'm gonna tell. I want to talk to base. I'm gonna tell them how the game gonna go. They gonna stack eight, nine in the box, right? You're gonna have about 120, 130 and two TDs.

Current Player 1 (29:33)

Are you speaking into it?

Former Player 1 (29:35)

I'm telling you, I'm manifesting it. I'm not. I'm not.

Current Player 1 (29:37)

Go ahead.

Former Player 1 (29:38)

I'm not Cleo and I'm a. I'm a bangle, but I'm telling you how the game gonna go. I already know they're going to stack the box.

Current Player 1 (29:44)

I bet.

Advertiser 2 (29:45)

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Current Player 1 (29:55)

I thought that's what he was talking about. My bad.

Former Player 1 (29:57)

I was very respectful because I. I was telling Bateman, telling Bateman how the game gonna go. You talk about the Bengals.

Advertiser 2 (30:07)

Oh, oh, I forgot. I'm not supposed to talk about teams that didn't make the playoffs. You know, me and B, we talk about team that make the playoff. That's what we talk about. You know, we talk about, you know, trying to make a Super bowl run. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This ain't about no Bronco. We.

Current Player 1 (30:21)

Oh, here Raven that. They flock up.

Advertiser 2 (30:27)

Team. You a hater. Hold on.

Current Player 1 (30:33)

Something.

Advertiser 2 (30:33)

You a hater. Hey, Bab, we appreciate that, man. Huh?

Current Player 1 (30:37)

Who y'all got winning?

Former Player 1 (30:38)

Oh, listen, I'm Lamar. All day.

Current Player 1 (30:41)

Okay. All right.

Former Player 1 (30:53)

We're gonna lie. Come on.

Current Player 1 (30:59)

Come on, man. Ocho, if that's true, that's fine.

Former Player 1 (31:01)

This me now. This me now.

Current Player 1 (31:04)

I know, I know, I know. Ain't no hater.

Former Player 1 (31:06)

Okay. Come on. Don't do that, because you got the man believing. I. I really.

Advertiser 2 (31:13)

Well, you kinda. I mean, you. What you wasn't like, even when everybody's saying it was over, that Josh Allen had the MVP sold up. I say, look, I don't know if y'all see what that, see what that guy in Baltimore doing, but it's hard. I mean, how you gonna overlook. I said, he's gonna be somewhere in the low 40s. He could have less than five interceptions and there's an outside chance he has a thousand yard rushing. So what we going to do about that in a season that we've never seen before and you might not ever.

Current Player 1 (31:40)

See what we're judging up for.

Advertiser 2 (31:44)

Look, I said it before what he's doing. Only one other quarterback has ever done it and that's Aaron Rodgers. When he goes 40 and less than five interceptions and every time he's. And he did it, he won the MVP. Now you throw 900 rush yards on top of it.

Former Player 1 (32:01)

Different.

Advertiser 2 (32:02)

What we talking about here? And the fourth highest passer rating in NFL history. He's the mvp. That's not to take away from anybody else. Bait. Josh Allen had a phenomenal season. So did Saquon. But when we look at this, the value that he gave that team.

Former Player 1 (32:19)

Yeah, listen, the voters can't make any excuses. They can't say he had Derrick Henry. They can't move the goal post now. They are known to move the goalpost based on who it is. At this point, there's really nothing you can say, there's really nothing you can do to take that MVP away from Lamar Jackson and the type of season he had regards to who he's had at his disposal and as a supporting cast. It just, it doesn't matter because what he did is unbelievable.

Current Player 1 (32:48)

Yeah, for sure. I'm glad we all know.

Advertiser 2 (32:52)

Yeah, we will appreciate you, man. Thanks for taking time joining us like nightcap. We really appreciate that. Wish you the best of luck. Continue success. You know we're gonna be watching you. But good luck on Sunday and hopefully we have another conversation down the road.

Former Player 1 (33:11)

It's whatever or Humphrey, whatever. They want to do these pieces.

Current Player 1 (33:14)

I bet, I bet. I'm.

Advertiser 2 (33:20)

Appreciate that. Bait. All right, wide receiver, Baltimore Ravens wide receiver. Justin was it Rashad. I don't know why I keep saying. I don't know why. Justin's on my mind. Rashad Bateman, first round draft pick, played really well in the apps. He played well all year. Obviously Zay is their number one but Bait came on and make big plays when given the opportunity and that's what you have to do. Ocho. Hey. Zay was out, so I Gotta step up and do my part now and that's what you have to do. And that's what I like. Likely made a name for himself in the absence of Mark Andrews. Likely stepped up and now they run a lot of double tight end set and it's hard because a lot of times when teams run double tight end set, you think they're going to block where they get both of those guys out in pass coverage and pass, you know, in pass and passing situation. But like he said, it's not easy to play. I mean Lamar is great, but you just got to stay alive. Ojo. You got to stay alive because there is no dead plate. It's not look like, oh man, they done got Lamar and next thing you know, you hear the crowd standing up. You're like, what they standing up for? I thought he got sacked. Nah, bro, you got to get on your horses. Either you go straight across, you come back or you take the top off. Because we have scrambled drills, you know, oh, we closest to him, we the closest guy come down the hill. Then you have the guy coming over and then you got got a guy going deep. But it was. It's great to see. It's going to be a great ball game. Ocho. I'm anxious to see how this thing turns out. The two MVP front runners playing the quarterback position. Both teams got a running game. James Cook for the Bills, Lamar, excuse me, Derrick Henry for the Ravens. Wide receivers, maybe you get Zay Flyers back, but if you don't, you got two tight ends, Likely and Andrews going up against Kincaid and Knox. Wide receivers, you got Shakira and Coop going up against Bateman Aguilar. So we get, hey, it's a great matchup. Offensive lines are very, very good. They got a Pro Bowl. The Ravens got a Pro bowl center, what you call them, got a Pro bowl left tackle. So that thing's gonna be very, very. And the Ravens right tackle has done an outstanding job. TJ White didn't register a station the previous week. He dealt with Miles Garrett. So Lamar, like, I feel pretty good. I got Ronnie Staley on one side. I got a Pro bowl center, a Pro bowl and an all pro center in the middle. And then I got a right tackle that's. I think he's a rookie that's playing out of his mind. So it's going to be a very good game.

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Advertiser 2 (39:47)

Where do Raiders should look for a head coach? Obviously, Coach Belichick signed with the University of North Carolina Tar Heels. He has a buyout June 1st of a million dollars. But if you were to lose leave now, it'll cost him 10 million, right? So, I mean, it's still a possibility. 10 million. I mean, hey, you get the hey, Raiders, y'all want me bad enough. I mean, considering Tampa gave up two first round of the game. 8 million in cash if you want. Hey look, they got. Look, obviously the Raiders don't have the influx of cash. This is a mom and pop shop, so it's not. No, he's not littered with money. He doesn't have billions and billions of dollars like some of these other owners. The only thing that he operates is the Raiders. You know, a lot of these other owners, they have outside businesses. Jerry got gas company, he got this and he got car dealerships in Brazil. You got Shot Khan, who have car parts and all that stuff going on. So there are a lot of guys that have other things. Obviously, we know what the Walton Pier family have. That guy's worth 80 billion, right? So $10 million to him ain't nothing. But that's a substantial amount of money considering we still don't know what the arbitration is with Jon Gruden. John Gruden had three years on that deal, right? No, Jon Gruden had like six years on that deal. Six or seven years. He signed a 10 year deal for 100 million. And he had like six, seven years. So he had 60 million. 60, 70 million. Arbitration is coming. Okay. They had a coach after him, they fired him. Oh, Josh McDaniels. So they got Josh McDaniels on the payroll. Okay. You just had A.P. a.P. Had to sign at least a three year deal. So you got him on the payroll. So you still got a Damn near probably 80, $90 million in coaches that don't coach for you.

Former Player 1 (41:42)

Right? Yeah.

Advertiser 2 (41:46)

And I think earlier this year the NFL issued a memo about all this guaranteed money, coaches and players, they Let Russ go. 30 plus million, Kirk Cousins. We're gonna see what's happening. We see a lot of coaches being and players being let go with substantial amount of guaranteed money still on the books. But the Raiders got to do. Look, the Raiders things are better when the Raiders are good. There are certain teams that, you know, you re the old, the old guard, the Steelers doing well. The Broncos all of a sudden come back. Yeah, you won't, you know, anytime. You got the great quarterbacks, you got Mahomes, you got Lamar, Josh Allen, you got golf. It's better when you have the. But the old guards, those fans show up. Steelers, they're gonna show up in Baltimore. But the Broncos, they show up. Teams like that, that travel, the packers, they show up. And so. But the Raiders need to get this thing figured out. The NFL will consider replacing the onside kick with an alternative proposal that has been mentioned in the years past. Instead of attempting the onside kick, teams would get one down to convert 4th and 20. And if they get 20 yards, they would maintain possession of the ball. How many times you see the team pick up for 20 yards? That ain't nothing.

Former Player 1 (43:15)

Hey, but I'm just saying the difficulty in getting 20 yards in one shot is very, very, very rare.

Advertiser 2 (43:22)

So they, so, so they'll, they don't pick up. So you ain't never seen nobody get 20 yard game.

Former Player 1 (43:26)

Very rare. It can happen. It happens. Come on now. You know how many, how many play? You know how many, how many play? How many plays in the playbook for four.

Advertiser 2 (43:37)

Yeah. How many, how many, how many? Well, we fit to find out on average how many 20 yard plays happen in an NFL game.

Former Player 1 (43:47)

It ain't. And I know one thing, it ain't gonna be many.

Advertiser 2 (43:51)

Guess what happened. Guess what happened. You get a penalty, you get a holding penalty, incidental contact, illegal. Hands to the faith.

Former Player 1 (43:59)

But you have to rely on that happening. You have to hope that happens. You have to hope that Happens.

Advertiser 2 (44:05)

So let me ask you a question. How did we not see penalty tonight? You saw two of them that. Guess what? It negated interception.

Former Player 1 (44:13)

Hold on, hold on. We're saying 4th and 20, eliminate the onside kickoff in hopes that there's a penalty on the play. What if you don't get the penalty?

Advertiser 2 (44:23)

Okay. Oh, oh. Think about what you just said. What if you don't get to play? Think about it.

Former Player 1 (44:29)

What if there's no holding call? I'd rather.

Advertiser 2 (44:33)

What you. What I'm saying, Do you think. Do you think the onside kick, the conventional onside kick, is more or less difficult than a 4, 4th and 20 plate, which is more difficult to happen than a long soccer.

Former Player 1 (44:49)

You got a kicker that knows how to kick the goddamn ball and have the third bounce go up in the air. You know what the problem is? The goddamn kickers don't know how to make the goddamn ball bounce. Listen, let me. Let me. Let me. Let me say something, especially to the chat people need to understand what the onside kick is supposed to look like. The kicker supposed to kick. The ball is supposed to hit the ground on the third bounce. The ball is supposed to bounce and go up. Nobody. Nobody has perfected that yet for some goddamn. I don't know why. Because the onside kick is supposed to be basically.

Advertiser 2 (45:19)

What's the. What's the. Before you do that, what's the onside conversion rate? Give me the onside conversion rate.

Former Player 1 (45:23)

Hey, you know. You know. You know what I'm talking about. I know you've seen the onside kick on the right way, right?

Advertiser 2 (45:28)

Yeah. Yes, yes, I know. You take that bounce, it goes all.

Former Player 1 (45:31)

The way up, and it basically becomes the jumbo. Yeah, but nobody's been able to do it. I'm not sure what the kickers are.

Advertiser 2 (45:36)

Doing these days, Ocho. Last year, the league issued a total of 419 fines for the regular season and postseason through Week 17. This year, they've already issued 484. That's a 1.17% increase. Now we ain't even got to the playoffs. We got wild card division championship and the Super Bowl. So we still got four more weeks. You already know, this thing go back, this thing might be 550. Yeah, they might be 550, might be close to 600.

Former Player 1 (46:12)

Ocho, there's certain things you can't take out of the game. You can. You could. You could. You can have as many memos as you want to. You can. You can talk until you read in the goddamn face the game the Game of football is played a certain way. There's certain things you can't take out of it. You're already taking the physicality out of the game. Now you're trying to take the culture and the way and the style in which. In which 80% of the certain types of players are in there, the way they play it. There's only so much you can do. There's only so much you can do.

Advertiser 2 (46:45)

Yeah. Look, some penalty is going to happen. As an offensive lineman, you're taught if you get beat tackling. Don't let that man hit your quarterback. Don't let that man hit your quarterback. Hey, D.B. if you beat. Hey, don't you give up. No touchdown. Hey. Okay, if it's a spot. If it's a spot file, it's a spot file. We might get a. Hey, we might get a fumble, but we can't recover. Hey, they're gonna get a touchdown. If you give. Just give up. No PI. And I'm just. I'm just being honest with you. I'm not gonna listen. I'm not gonna. If you. If I get beat clean, you're not going to hit my quarterback. I'm going to tackle you. I know they're going to throw a flag, but I'm okay with that because guess what you didn't do? Hit my quarterback in the back and he fumbled the ball. That's not going to happen. So you just have to understand certain penalties. You just got to accept a good job, son. That's the way to not let it hit. That's the way to not let our quarterback get hit. Some things are going to happen. The Patriots have hired Mike Brable as the next head coach. Robert Kraft will replace one of his former players with another in hopes to improve the results. Vrabel is the first coach since 1950 to directly succeed another coach where both played together in the NFL as teammates. Since Forest Gregg took over for Bart Starr as the packers head coach in 1984, there might be a possibility to bring Josh McDaniels back as offensive coordinator. Considering that Josh. Before we talk about Mike Brable, it seems to me the only place Josh McDaniels can have success is in New England.

Former Player 1 (48:24)

Wait a minute. Whoa. Stop right there. The only place Josh McDaniel could have success is in New England when he has Tom Brady at the helm.

Advertiser 2 (48:33)

Well, he did go to the playoffs when he had a. A Mac Jones. Remember Mac Jones rookie year? He had mack. They went 10, 6. Then he goes to. Remember, he goes to the Raiders. He gets The Raiders job. Coach Belichick had this brilliant idea that I think Bill O'Brien was the coach for one year and then Bill O'Brien leaves and then he has two of his slappy homies come in there. Matt Patricia and Joe Judge. Guys that have never called an offensive play in all their life.

Former Player 1 (49:04)

Right.

Advertiser 2 (49:04)

One is a special teams coach, the other is a D.C. and you know what? Our first round draft pick as a quarterback that made the Pro bowl as a rookie that ended up taking us to the playoffs. We want to have two guys in his ear that's never ever called an offensive play.

Former Player 1 (49:21)

Yeah.

Advertiser 2 (49:22)

What do you think about this? For me, I'm disappointed that Mr. Kraft did not give Jerod Mayo more time. It'd be interesting to see if Vrabel struggles and not have a great record. The likelihood of him moving on with Vrabel after a year is not very likely.

Former Player 1 (49:40)

No.

Advertiser 2 (49:41)

Absolutely Everybody else that Mr. Kraft has had now granted, he had Coach Belichick from 2000 until 2023. Right. 24. But Coach Belichick was 5 and 11. He got another P. He got a degree. Spirit. Next year we know what happened to win super bowl and they take off. But do you like the hire of Mike Vrabel?

Former Player 1 (50:08)

I mean, I like it, I like it, but I, I don't see much changing. I don't see much changing depending on how the draft goes, depending on what they get in free agency, then you get some pieces in there that could help defensively, that can help offensively. Things might change, but I don't see it to be a quick turnaround that fast. I've never seen a team turn around that fast. The quarterback position, obviously Drake May is good. He showed flashes of brilliance, then he's had some lulls. Obviously you get that with a rookie quarterback. Depending on his growth and how, how much better he gets from, from now to next season, then I think things will, will be okay for them. But I don't see him making that kind of jump where it just changes the dynamic of that team in general. And all of a sudden they turn it around and win 10, 11, some games. No, it's not going to happen. But if Buffalo, if they do have a losing season again, the leash for Ravel will be much longer than the leash for Gerard Mayo.

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