Nightcap - Hour 2: Bears hire Johnson, Carroll's NFL return, Andrews apologizes

Summary

Club Shay Shay - Nightcap: Hour 2 Summary

Release Date: February 5, 2025

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe delves deep into recent high-profile NFL developments. The second hour of the "Nightcap" episode focuses on the Chicago Bears' hiring of Ben Johnson, Pete Carroll's return to the NFL with the Las Vegas Raiders, and Mark Andrews' heartfelt public apology. This comprehensive summary captures the essence of the discussions, providing insights and notable quotes from the conversation.

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1. Chicago Bears Hire Ben Johnson as Head Coach

Timestamp: [03:31] - [10:05]

Shannon Sharpe kicks off the discussion with the Chicago Bears' significant move to hire Ben Johnson as their new head coach. Johnson, previously the offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions, is lauded for his offensive prowess, having led the Lions to top-five offensive rankings in the past three seasons.

Key Points:

• Performance Under Johnson: Johnson's ability to enhance offensive creativity and efficacy is a central theme. Analysts praise his work with quarterbacks like Jared Goff and his capacity to develop versatile offensive strategies.

• Impact on Bears' Offense: The conversation highlights how Johnson's hiring is expected to synergize with the Bears' existing talent, including dual-threat quarterback Caleb Williams and star receivers like Jameson Williams and Keenan Allen.

Notable Quotes:

• Sports Analyst 1: “You got a great quarterback, dual-threat quarterback, who's a little bit more mobile… This is going to be a perfect relationship… Caleb Williams being one of the top quarterbacks in the league statistically because of Ben Johnson and his creativity and his offensive prowess.” ([05:15])

• Sports Analyst 2: “I like to hire. But what I don't like what Chicago and New England doing that fake stuff… It’s a control issue.” ([05:57])

2. Cowboys Hire Brian Schottenheimer as Offensive Coordinator

Timestamp: [11:17] - [27:02]

The conversation pivots to the Dallas Cowboys' controversial decision to hire Brian Schottenheimer as their offensive coordinator. Analysts debate the implications of this hire, scrutinizing Schottenheimer's track record and the Cowboys' management style under Jerry Jones.

Key Points:

• Schottenheimer’s Credentials: While Schottenheimer has orchestrated successful offenses in Seattle and other teams, critics argue his lack of head coaching experience and play-calling decisiveness could be a liability.

• Jerry Jones' Control: A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Jerry Jones' reputed need for control, suggesting that Schottenheimer may not have the autonomy necessary to thrive in his role.

• Impact on Team Dynamics: Concerns are raised about how Schottenheimer’s leadership style might clash with the Cowboys' existing coaching staff and players, potentially hindering the team's offensive evolution.

Notable Quotes:

• Sports Analyst 2: “Brian Schottenheimer doesn’t have any say on the final 53, any say in free agency, any say in the draft.” ([25:54])

• Homes.com Representative: “Jerry wants to continue his reign with power… He wants to be in control of everything.” ([12:28])

3. Pete Carroll’s Return to the NFL with the Las Vegas Raiders

Timestamp: [30:50] - [38:28]

In a surprising twist, Pete Carroll makes a monumental return to the NFL as the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders. The discussion explores Carroll's extensive coaching background and speculates on his potential impact on the Raiders.

Key Points:

• Coaching Legacy: Carroll's illustrious career, including multiple Super Bowl victories and a successful tenure with the Seattle Seahawks, is highlighted as a cornerstone for the Raiders' future aspirations.

• Team Building Philosophy: Analysts ponder how Carroll's team-building strategies will mesh with the Raiders' current roster and organizational culture, especially given his reputation for fostering strong team dynamics.

• Longevity and Future Prospects: Concerns about Carroll's age (74 years old) and his ability to maintain a competitive edge in the fast-paced NFL environment are discussed, balancing his experience against the physical demands of coaching.

Notable Quotes:

• Sports Analyst 1: “Pete knows how to build a team… He understands. He’s been a head coach at a lot of different stops.” ([36:35])

• Homes.com Representative: “Russell Wilson… They assigned Matt Flynn in free agency… Russ beat him out in camp. Crazy how that worked.” ([37:56])

4. Mark Andrews’ Public Apology for Missed Two-Point Conversion

Timestamp: [55:01] - [62:05]

The final segment addresses Mark Andrews' public apology following his botched two-point conversion attempt, which had significant implications for his team’s performance.

Key Points:

• Emotional Response: Andrews publicly expressed his devastation and commitment to overcoming adversity, highlighting the emotional toll of high-stakes mistakes in professional sports.

• Team and Fan Support: The discussion emphasizes the importance of internal team support over external criticisms, advocating that apologies and accountability should remain within the locker room.

• Handling Adversity: Analysts draw parallels between Andrews' situation and historical instances where athletes have struggled publicly with performance setbacks, stressing resilience and mental fortitude.

Notable Quotes:

• Mark Andrews: “I am absolutely gutted by what happened on Sunday… I refuse to let this situation define me.” ([55:01])

• Sports Analyst 1: “There are ups and downs… Any apologies should be had within that team to individual players and nobody else.” ([56:15])

• Sports Analyst 2: “Victory goes to the man that's prepared… Mark Andrews is made of the right stuff.” ([59:10])

5. Concluding Thoughts

Throughout the hour, Shannon Sharpe and his co-hosts provide nuanced analyses of these critical NFL moves, balancing praise with constructive criticism. The conversation underscores the delicate balance coaches must maintain between strategy, team dynamics, and personal accountability. By the episode's end, listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of these significant developments and their potential ripple effects across the NFL landscape.

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Final Thoughts: This episode of Club Shay Shay offers an in-depth exploration of pivotal NFL events, enriched with expert opinions and memorable quotes. For fans and followers of the sport, Shannon Sharpe’s insightful discussions provide valuable perspectives on the ever-evolving dynamics of professional football.

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[Sports Analyst 1]

Damn right. I like the hype you got. Damn right. Now listen, we talk about Ben Johnson. Now this we talk about Ben Johnson that worked wonders with Jared Goff, worked wonders offensively with that offense. The creativity that is amazed all of us all season long. Now you know Dan Campbell loves to go fourth on fourth down. Why do you think he's so confident in doing some of the things he does as a head coach because of Ben Johnson and what he's able to do. So I look at it from this standpoint. You got Jameson Williams, you got Iman Ross, St. Brown, you got LaPorta. Now you go to another supporting cast in Chicago that different skill sets but they get the job done very well.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Right.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You have a great quarterback, dual threat quarterback, who's a little bit more mobile, a little bit more agile, can play off script a little better than golf. And Kaden Williams, he's a good thrower of the ball as well. This is going to be a perfect relationship, not only for Ben Johnson, but for Caleb Williams in his career, I guarantee you. And I'm going to put it out there right now, and it's going to be I told you so moment when the season starts and we about. We in about maybe week seven or week eight, and I'll be like, I told you so. Caleb Williams being one of the top quarterbacks in the league statistically because of Ben Johnson and his creativity and his offensive prowess. Watch.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I like to hire.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, I like to hire also.

[Sports Analyst 2]

But what I don't like what Chicago and New England doing that fake stuff. Bring black coaches in there when they know damn well they're not going higher.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

They brought Eddie George in there and you know, look, if you. You got to take it.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You know damn well they want. Excuse me, but you know, good D.

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[Sports Analyst 2]

You know, good. You know good D. Well, you wanted Ben Johnson, right? But Ocho. Hey, the Rooney rule, I got to get that quote. Same thing in New England. New England, y'all brought two black. Y'all brought Pep Hamilton in. Y'all brought this other black, you know good and well. Yeah, Byron Leftwich. Y'all know good. First of all, Byron left, which been out of the league for what, two years? And y'all gonna bring him in. Now, he ain't got no offensive coordinate, but y'all brought him in.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

And see y'all, what y'all did. The Patriots did that thing so good. They brought two of them in.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Ooh, ooh, ooh.

[Sports Analyst 2]

They gonna have. Ooh. They brought Ocho.

[Homes.com Representative]

Brought two of them.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I mean, listen, they. They have to check the boxes. I'm.

[Sports Analyst 2]

They, they.

[Sports Analyst 1]

They gotta. They. They gotta check the boxes like you said. They gotta. You gotta meet the quota. You have to satisfy the rule that's in place. That's really not working.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Ain't got no tea to it. Look, and. But look, I like the hire. I like Ben Johnson. I like what he did. You mentioned it. He has a quarterback that's more mobile. He has very good. Look, you got Roman took in the first round for the Bears. You got D.J. moore that you signed to a cond. Contract extension. You got Keenan Allen. I think Keenan Allen is a free agent. So you probably bring him back because he Came on strong at the end of the year, he's that guy that. He's not as fast, it's not as quick as a Amon Rod the ST in the slot, but he gets it done. He got tremendous moves. He got great hands. I like him. He's a big body. He can body, you know, he can body you up. So I like that. I like their, I don't really know their running back situation. You're gonna have to improve the offensive line because that's one thing. DeAndre Swift.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Offensive line. And you're gonna probably get better because you look at what they got and in Detroit, right. You know, you got Penne Sewell, who's a Pro Bowler, All Pro. You got Zeitler, you got Deck, you got Glass. Now you got Decker, you got Ragnar, you got. You know, Detroit has a very good offensive line and so you're going to have to get that up to par in Chicago because your quarterback took 60 plus sacks. That's too many. Oh yeah, that's way too many sacks. Now all of it is not on the offensive line. Caleb Williams gonna have to do a better job of getting rid of the football. It's okay to throw it away because sometimes I think guys, they get caught up. Oo well, I'm gonna mess up my completion percentage, bro. Throw that damn ball away. You don't want to be taking all those hits.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Right, right.

[Sports Analyst 2]

But I like the hire. I'm sure they got, they got money in, in, in, in cap space that they can improve this team. I love the hire by Ben Johnson about that higher. He's put his time in as an offensive, as an offensive coordinator, as an offensive coach. I think it was right, it was the right time to, for him to get this job. So I, I really, I really like to hire. I'm a little surprised that he went in the same division as his former boss. Normally they get, they get away. Oo.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Right.

[Sports Analyst 2]

But hey, that was the best situation. I always thought that the Bears, for me, that was the best situation that was available to me. Now, I mean, other people and people like the Raiders, you know, ain't nothing.

[Sports Analyst 1]

To work with over there, huh?

[Sports Analyst 2]

He ain't got no quarterback.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah. So you understood that that was, that was the best fit, especially for him and what he bring to the table.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, I thought that was the best. I thought that the jets. You got the jets situation. You got a lot of stuff going on with the Jets. What other. Whatever. What other, what other job is available, Ocho? The jets was available. The Saints. Hopefully AG get the Saints or Jets. I know I think you know he obviously ag played with the Jets. Hell he played with the Saints also. He was on the defensive staff. He was on Sean Payton's staff when he was at the Saints. So. But hopefully he gets one of these jobs. But it's going to be tough without a quarterback. You got to find a quarterback coacho without that you don't really have a chance to have longevity.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Your leash is going to be short. Leash is very short. If you ain't got no quarterback.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Well, I'll leash you short anyway. But anyway that's not what. We'll talk about that another day. But I to hire I like D. Johnson hire Chicago should be good. That's a very tough division. Oo you got young. We we'll see what Minnesota does with Sam Darnold. Do they move on or do they get keep elevate JJ McCarthy gonna be very interesting cause you got Jordan Love. You got golf. You got Caleb Williams. So I like it.

[Homes.com Representative]

Cowboys have officially hired Brian Schottenheimer who was their offensive coordinator last year. Jerry made the move and he was comfortable. Now mind you now remember the reports that came out. Jerry really liked Deion and Steven really wanted Brian shot and he really, he really wanted. Jerry really liked Coach Prime. But Stephen Woo, they were really but nerds. And I came over here and say ocho, that's some smoke and mirror. Everybody knew it was some bull job, but it was just something to smoke screen. Hey, we talked to coach Prime. That's our minority. Hey, that's our one token. Boom. We get on.

[Sports Analyst 2]

We.

[Homes.com Representative]

We go with that. And the Cowboys notably, they didn't interview any of the top candidates. The Ben Johnson, Cliff Kingsbury couldn't talk because he was in the he was going week to week. So you only had your. You could only talk if you were in the bye week. So Nagy Spagnola, Eric G, Aaron Glenn. None of the top candidates were interviewed by Jerry. Brian Schottenheimer. Again, my only problem, Ocho, I don't have a problem chat. I don't want anybody to think that I have a problem with the hire. But don't give me this bull job. You want somebody that called plays. Mike McCarthy called plays. Yeah, see we want somebody with previous head coaching experience. We want somebody that called plays. Brian Schottenheimer has never been a head coach. He didn't call plays. That's neither here nor there. Ocho, what do you think about that?

[Sports Analyst 1]

I mean obviously Jerry wants to continue continue his reign with power he doesn't want to relinquish that power. He wants to be in control of everything. And he hired a coach that will fall in line with just that.

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[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Most definitely. Most definitely. So, again, Jerry getting in the way again, doing things his way. And the definition of insanity. Chat. You stay. Stay with me. Now, the definition of insanity is doing things over and over and over in a way you see fit and expecting different results. The results have been the same for years. For years. And you continuously do it. Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy. Now, Mr. Schottenheimer, nothing is going to change until you remove yourself and get out the way and allow people to do their job. Not you trying to do multiple. Not you trying to do multiple things at once.

[Homes.com Representative]

Chan Gailey, Dave Campbell, Wade Phillips, Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy, now Brian Schottenheimer, all of them. Nothing changed. It's just different names, but nothing's changed.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Any of. Any of the people that you just called. Will any of them challenge Jerry when any of them challenge?

[Homes.com Representative]

Hell, no.

[Sports Analyst 1]

My point exactly.

[Homes.com Representative]

And you let him feel your staff and you let him like, well, I want this guy to be on your defensive staff. I want this guy to be on your offensive staff. No coach is going to do that. No, no, no, they're not going to do that. That's if it's one thing, Ocho. I go to a company and I'm looking around, I'm going to give them an opportunity. That don't mean I'm going to keep them. But if I like what I hear, I'll keep them. But I'm not going to let you tell me, well, you got to keep this VP or you got to keep this CFO or you got to keep this co. No, hell, no. That ain't happening. I mean, but this her another thing, Ocho. Not one other team attempted to interview Brian Schopenheimer. Now, all I want to know is this. Look, I will get me somebody. Somebody else won't. Cause if. If nobody else wanted that something. You trying to tell me something I don't know?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Well, you got to think about. Think about it. Now look at the elephant in the room. Now, the coaches that were available, we talk about good coaches, and also the coaches that were also available that could have come to Dallas, that could have interviewed in Dallas, wouldn't go for the shenanigans. You think Ben Johnson gonna stand down? You're gonna tell Ben Johnson who we can bring on and who we can't. Aaron Glenn, I mean, obviously he wouldn't. He wouldn't get the job anyway. You think Aaron Glenn is gonna come to Dallas? You gonna tell Aaron Glenn what type of staff he can put together?

[Homes.com Representative]

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[Sports Analyst 1]

Man, man, Belichick. Man, Belichick. Tear that goddamn Ted Jerry's world down. Absolutely not. You have to get out of your own way. You have to. You don't have a choice.

[Homes.com Representative]

He's been an offensive coordinator before. He's with the jets for three years. His highest point, his highest points per game, they were 13th. He called for St. Louis. The highest points per game was 21st. He also called in Seattle. His highest points per game was six. In 2018, he had two. Three top 10 offenses as far as points. He averaged 28.7, 25.3, 26.8. And then that ended. And this was his first for reback as being a coordinator. Correct. Okay, so he's been a coordinator. He's been a coordinator for 11 years. Had some success. Orchestrated three top 10 offenses in Seattle, none in the top 20 in St. Louis, and none in the top 10 and at the Jets. But he wasn't the coordinator, though.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Wasn't.

[Homes.com Representative]

He was. Okay, okay, okay.

[Sports Analyst 2]

So he's with.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He.

[Homes.com Representative]

So he was there with Rex. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So we know those offenses back then, Ocho was run the football play behind your defense. It was more ground and pound. But his most success, it came in Seattle. He did have great success in Seattle with Russ. 16 points per game, 9th in points per game, 8th in points per game. That's pretty good resume. But we know why he got the job is because Jerry wants someone that he can control. It's really that simple. There's no other. I'm not gonna make it a black white issue because I don't believe it's a black white issue. It's a control issue. Jerry wants control. Jerry wants control because Jerry wants credit. None of the blame, but the control because this thing fell apart. I can't believe this happened. I'm shocked. Is anybody. No, you're not shocked as anybody. You put this ish together, you should be the least shocked that it fell apart. But like you said, if. I mean, you do what you've done, you get what you've always gotten. It's hard for me to believe I could be in a scenario at Some point in time I'm going to change something if I do, if I get the same results for 30 years and my objective. But Jerry's a promoter. Jerry's not trying to win. Jerry's not fooling me. He might fool some of the fans in Dallas and I think for the most part they've even caught on. Jerry's all about selling. Jerry looks at it like anytime they're talking about me, that's good enough. We don't need to talk. They don't need to talk about me winning championship. They don't need to talk about me being bad. They're talking about me. So I'm in the news. That's good enough for him. And I don't, I don't see it changing. They bring back the same cast. If you look at guys leave Dallas and play well, look at now Neville Gallimore, he went to the Rams ball out. I'm just saying they make a trade for a guy, Carolina, they give a fourth round draft pick and the guy had how many catch, he might have had four catches.

[Sports Analyst 1]

The rest of Mingo. Yeah, yeah, obviously, man. Listen, I, I don't, I don't know what Jerry, Jerry is doing. I, I can't question. I've been around football for a very long time. Obviously not as long as you have and not as long as he has. He's an owner, he's a gm. Hell, he's every goddamn thing. He just thinks his way always works. And the fact that he wants credit is, is just beyond me. You know, when you can look at the landscape of the NFL with all the owners that consistently win, all the other franchises where they win consistently, you know, the packers, the Bills, the Chiefs, the Steelers, I mean, teams that have a rich history in winning, you know.

[Homes.com Representative]

In the past, the Eagles, well, everybody's going to the championship.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Since you don't see any of the owners front and center making decisions, you know, pigeon holding head coaches, not allowing them to pick their staff, people that they work well with. I mean, all that, all that matters. All that matters. And the fact that control and credit is what he wants is ridiculous. And.

[Homes.com Representative]

Jerry has, Jerry has probably, let's just say for the sake of it, let's just be Safe. He owned 10 other businesses. How many of those businesses you think he hands on?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Probably none.

[Homes.com Representative]

None. Because he doesn't know.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Right.

[Homes.com Representative]

But yet he thinks he knows football.

[Sports Analyst 1]

But he's been around football the longest, so he feels light. He knows.

[Homes.com Representative]

Yeah, I've been around a plow. It doesn't make me A tractor? The hell you talking about? Just cause you around something. Hey, as a matter of fact, Ocho, I'm sleeping in my garage tonight. That don't make me a car.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, that's a good one. I got you.

[Homes.com Representative]

I'm just trying to figure out what. What makes him think he knows just because you're around something. Hell, Ocho, if somebody gonna give me all the. If somebody gonna give me the scouting report, I can read off what they wrote down. You think Jerry going to the Senior bowl and out there looking at Scott, got his notepad like, okay. Guy got great pad level, drops his hip, great transition, change of direction. Oh, he bends the edge really well. I like the way he button press.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah. He don't know. Yeah, he not.

[Homes.com Representative]

Hell no.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Not detailing sharp like that, obviously.

[Homes.com Representative]

Hell no. But there are guys that do. What's the. What's the guy name that runs the Cowboys?

[Sports Analyst 2]

Will.

[Homes.com Representative]

Will McClain. Will Clay. He knows. He writes the notes, gives them to Jared and did Jerry, and they have a little selection. Okay. Okay. And who do we think is going to be available when we select? At the time we select, they give him a list of names. Everybody have their thing. Well, Jerry, this is what we need. Okay. Jerry, this is what we need, bro. Michael Parsons fell in your lap. You ain't do nothing. CD Fell in your lap. Come on, bro. That ain't nothing. They failed to you. They had an agreement. Devontae Smith. The Eagles wanted devontae Smith. That's like, hey, we'll trade up. Just don't bother him. We'll let y'all trade. Okay, fine. Just don't select Parson or y'all not gonna select Parson. You're gonna take devonte, Right?

[Sports Analyst 2]

Okay.

[Homes.com Representative]

Boom. CD Fell in the lap. All the other receivers were gone. So who are they gonna pick? They needed a receiver. Jenna was gone. Judy was gone. Rose was gone. Waddle was gone. Wow. He really went out of limb and got CD I need a receiver. He the last one left. Oh, no, my bad. No. Yeah. Cause the Jalen record went before CD.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Rugger went to Philly.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Right?

[Homes.com Representative]

Philly. Yes. So, Ocho, that ain't nothing if a guy just fall in your lap. No. You want to impress me? Do what Kansas City did. Zoom up the draft board and go get somebody. That's what's impressive. That lets me know, okay. They know what they're doing. You didn't do that. So I just don't get it. Mingo has 17 catches for 167 yards all year. He had five catches for 64 yards when he arrived in Dallas and he played eight games, played nine for Carolina. And they traded a fourth round pick for him. Right? Fourth or fifth. Traded a fourth round pick for that kind of production.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He doesn't know what he's doing. He may does, yes, but there's no way he does it. It's, it's not, you know, it's, it's almost, it's, it's, it's almost.

[Homes.com Representative]

Hold on, let's see. Did, did. Hold on. Oo, did Justin Jefferson go before or after he want to pick? After. Yeah, he went 22nd. Oh, so you saw you with CD and Justin Jefferson went 22nd. Check the numbers out.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Right?

[Homes.com Representative]

Look at the numbers between the two. But he know football, not the CD is a bad. Cause CD is a number one.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Homes.com Representative]

But I don't know very many people that's taking CD over Jenna.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I mean, listen, maybe Cowboy fans.

[Homes.com Representative]

But I'm talking about if you poll, if you poll GMs, you pull all 32 GMS and says, okay, you got Jetta or you got CD. Cause right now people gonna take Chase and Jetta, they won two. Both of those guys were unanimous first team all pros. There wasn't a whole lot of unanimous first team all pros. But those two guys were two of them. And Jetta damn near been an all pro every year except what last year he got nicked. He went over a thousand dollar choice, missed like seven games. Can you imagine what his numbers would.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Have been if he had?

[Homes.com Representative]

Ain't nobody close to him his first three years, his first four years, his first five years. Nobody is close to those numbers. Now with the season that Chase had, Chase might have an opportunity to get him, but he's Gonna probably need another 14, 1500, which is possible with his quarterback in that system. But Jerry don't know what he's doing, man. And like I said, I don't got no problem with Brian Schottenheimer. I'm just saying this notion that he's scouring and he's trying to get the best man for the job. I don't believe he's doing it. I don't believe he's ever done that. Not since he's not going to get a chat Cowboy fans. Jerry is not going to give, get anybody that's going to offer him some resistance. Brian, let me tell you what. Brian Schottenheimer doesn't have any say on the final 53, any say in free agency, any say in the draft.

[Sports Analyst 1]

And all those are things that the Head coach should have some type of say or control over.

[Homes.com Representative]

Just basically almost like I guess what if they still have arranged marriages? Hold on. I the one that gotta be with this lady. Don't I need to know. You trying to tell me what I want? I know what I want. Jerry is a. This is an arranged marriage. Jerry is telling you he's picking players. Telling you what you need as opposed to what you want. Or what would best or what would fit best to the system now is them coming back. I mean I had the as far as I know. See, that's another thing. What if Brian Schottenheimer want to hire his own dc?

[Sports Analyst 1]

No, that's. That's. That's crazy. I mean listen, it's crazy the way things are run. Obviously Jerry has the power. We understand that. He's going to exercise that right and that power at every turn and every chance he gets. Every chance and every turn Terry gets. He's killing his own franchise. He's killing his own team.

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Pete Carroll was hired as Head Coach of the Raiders. Pete Carroll and the Raiders have reached agreement on a three year deal with a team option for fourth when the regular season start. Carroll will become the oldest person to ever serve as head coach in the NFL. He turned 74 in September. The previous record was held by Romeo Cornell, who was 73 when he served as interim head coach of the Houston Texans. Ocho, do you like this move?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Is Pete Carroll? I like Pete Carroll, Pete's resume, you know, it speaks for itself, what he's done. He's a Super bowl winning head coach again. When I look at what he has to work with over and in Las Vegas, I'm not sure why he would. He would want to. Maybe he. He knows something we don't know. Maybe he knows some. You know, he has some cooking.

[Homes.com Representative]

Is one of 32. What you talking about? What he want eight with 32 of those guys.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I know, but still, you. I mean, just. Just going to take a job knowing that your lease is going to be short, knowing that you don't have the most important position on your team, on that team that matters, to be able to compete and contend in that. Do you know what conference, division he's in?

[Homes.com Representative]

Yes. AFC West, Broncos, Chargers, Chargers. Yeah. All of them got quarterbacks. Everybody got quarterback for the next decade.

[Sports Analyst 1]

So I'm not. I'm not sure. He got to be thinking about something. He must be cooking up something with Mark Davis. I don't know what it may be.

[Homes.com Representative]

Ocho, let me ask you this and chat. Y'all can help me.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You understand?

[Homes.com Representative]

You 70 years old. This 32 year old thing, she nice, got long hair, she got. Ooh, skin built stacked like dirty laundry in the dorm. Hair down her back. And when she steps, she'll step up. Y'all don't talk about she'll step up. Y'all gonna see if she gonna have a ysl. She'll have on Tom Ford, she'll have on them blood bottles. Everything is. Everything is immaculate. And she's interested in you. You taking that Pete Carroll said about to be 74. How many jobs you think he gonna get in the NFL at the age of 70?

[Sports Analyst 1]

I like where you going with it. I'd like to listen when you put it like that, when you give me that kind of analogy. I like when you're going with it, but everything you just said, you know, you talk about Tom Ford, you know.

[Homes.com Representative]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You know, the nice shoes and she's a stepper. Well, everything you just described in that woman ain't the goddamn Las Vegas Raiders. They don't go together, you know. Now, the lost the Las Vegas Raiders is the one where your homeboy say, hey, boy. Hey, Sharp. I need someone to take one for the team tonight, man. The one I got, you know, she's a 10. Now, her friend, she said she. She had to bring her friend with her. Now, her friend is only a six. Yeah, but you with it.

[Sports Analyst 2]

No, you're gonna take one.

[Sports Analyst 1]

It's like getting ready to be the head coach for the Chiefs or something.

[Homes.com Representative]

But you have to understand, though, Ocho, she's shown interesting. She ain't gotta have on nothing. She might come out the house with Crocs, she might come out the house with that bonnet on. But she 32. Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Curry, 32.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Curry. Hold on, hold on. Let me get my visuals together. Now. How tall we talking? How tall are we talking?

[Homes.com Representative]

She's somewhere between, she's somewhere between 57 and 5 9.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I'm gonna do you one better. I'm gonna do you one better because we both, we, we both talk. Let's just make it. Just, just make a 5, 5, 5, 9, 5, 10. So when she put some. When she put some heels on, we call the Amazon.

[Homes.com Representative]

32 got a nice job. She makes six figures. Low six figures. When you see out she ain't got nothing on. She carries. She carrying Louie all the time. She got her own, Got her own crib, got her own car.

[Sports Analyst 1]

And you got to be careful now because, because everything you describe right now as a woman, she talk back.

[Homes.com Representative]

That's okay. I listen. She talk. I listen. I don't know what you talking about, Ocho. Hey, I'm about to be 57, man. I ain't going to do all that. I'm past that stage O joke where I got to wear the pants and I gotta be my way. Oh, no, she talked back. Yeah. You know what? You right. I didn't want to go over there. Why did you tell me this yesterday?

[Sports Analyst 1]

I like it. I like. I, I. Listen, I understand where you at. Listen, you're in a different phase in your life. You have to understand, you don't have to fight everybody.

[Homes.com Representative]

It's not like he. Ben Johnson, see? Yeah. Tom Brady wanted Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson. I ain't got no quarterback. Yeah. Ideally, would I like to be in the same division? No. But I got a quarterback over here. I got skill position players over here. I got a lot of cap space and I can build. Guess what? I got a quarterback on a rookie contract, so I can put some pieces around him.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You got a little time, you got about two more years.

[Homes.com Representative]

Got two more years. So with that being said, Ocho, but Pete being 70, about to be 74. Think about it. In the history of the game, there's only one other coach. Romeo was 73 and he was interim. Wasn't head. He wasn't, you know, that wasn't. Somebody hired him and gave him the job. He just took over. So for me, it. For, for, for Pete, it's a no brainer. Now, Pete can build a team. We saw what he did with Seattle, but Russ came to him in the third round. I think Russ was a third round draft pick. And we saw what happened. They had a great defense. They built that thing. They had B Wag, they had Sherm, they had Chancellor, they had Earl, they had Malcolm Smith, they had Bennett, they had Cliff Averill, they had Red. They had a squad. Russ come in, remember? Now, they assigned Matt Flynn in free agency from Green Bay. He was expected. They gave him $10 million guaranteed out of $30 million contract, $10 million signing bonus, and he never touched the field. Russ beat him out in camp.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Crazy how that worked.

[Homes.com Representative]

Hey, and maybe they can. Maybe they can. Maybe he can strike lightning. He under. But see, the thing is, Ocho, he understands. He's been a head coach at a lot of different stops. He's head coach at the jets, he's head coach at the Patriots, head coach at Seattle, head coach here, head coach at usc. And you look at what he did. USC was. USC was not winning. Before Pete got there, he put USC back on the map. Now, you're not old enough to remember when USC had that juggernaut late 60s and through the 70s. They were hail. They were loaded. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I mean, you got to think about it. They had Charles White and Marcus Allen, Ronnie Lott, Dennis Smith, Joy Browner, Ross. All the. All those guys. So they. They were, they were really. Lynn Kane, all those guys within that backfield, they were really. They were really good. Munoz.

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I think Don Mose Bar was on that team. They were. They were. They were loaded. But Pete knows how to build a team. But at the end of the day, if you look at the teams, when he's had his best, most success.

[Sports Analyst 1]

It matters.

[Homes.com Representative]

And without him. So, Russ. Hey, Russ. Pete reunite in Oakland. I mean, in Vegas.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Him and Russ.

[Homes.com Representative]

Russell Wilson.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Oh, that's a good one. That's a good. That's a good one. I like. I like. I like what you're thinking. That's a possibility. I'm not. I'm. I'm not sure. I'm. I am not sure. Damn, That's a good one. A quarterback, a quarterback that you're familiar with, a quarterback that you won a Super bowl with. You know, but there were some. There were some issues internally. Are you sure you want to go back to that?

[Homes.com Representative]

Like, nah, bro, I see the. Pete was like, I see diminishing skills. Nah, bro, I. I ain't really trying to give you 200 plus Russ say, bro I a. And you know, hey, spend the block.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Homes.com Representative]

You know, sometimes the thing be so bad, don't you, you got a choice. But yeah, I, I, I don't. That ain't what, that ain't what I said, right?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Sometimes that's what you have to do.

[Homes.com Representative]

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[Sports Analyst 1]

Yes, sir.

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[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, depending on who it.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Is, maybe.

[Homes.com Representative]

You know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about, Ojo, you know what I'm saying? Sometime, you know, hey, like I. Your boy ain't 27 a 37 no more.

[Sports Analyst 1]

It's different. It's different. Listen, you know what's good, you know what's good about us is really understanding and realizing we're not. Yes. We're not the same as we were. As we were. No, we understand what we're capable of doing at our age now, we did not in our teens and 20s and 30s. Man, we ain't pulling that, we're not pulling that off at this.

[Homes.com Representative]

No, no, no, I, I ain't. Look, I, I ain't been. I ain't finna grab no 25 year old like I could when I was 32, 33. I already know that right now. Oh, I'm a. When I can, not when I want to. You see what I'm saying? Oh, I'm. When I can, not when I want to. Understand that chat. Understand. Stay with me now. Stay with me. There's a difference between the two.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You know what you, you know what you got, you got self awareness.

[Homes.com Representative]

Of course.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Self awareness is so important, but it's lacking in Sony. So many of our men today is lacking in so many of our. Still trying to think you can keep up and do some of the things you did when you were young.

[Homes.com Representative]

No, no, I'm. Hey, hey, I'm who I am about to be eight, six months. 57 now.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I don't look it.

[Homes.com Representative]

I still, I'm in shape, you know, I eat my veggies and do my abs. But hey, at the end of the day, they hit that Google. Damn, damn. 50. 57. Yeah, I'll finish them. Hey, so hey, Ocho, you know, sometimes you have to. Hey. Catch a straggler coming out of the Supermarket, you know what I'm saying? I'm leading on the wall, Joe, listen. I'm leading on the wall. Waiting on one of the walls.

[Sports Analyst 1]

It's a ninth inning. It's a ninth inning. It's two strikes and three balls. What you gonna do now? Fourth quarter, two. Hey, two minute, two minute drive.

[Homes.com Representative]

Hey, I wild. Hey, you sit in your car for a little while. Watch her go in and out. Okay, Ocho. She look as desperate as I am.

[Sports Analyst 2]

The Jacksonville Jaguars are finalizing a deal to hire BUC coordinator Liam Cohen as their next head coach. The move comes after Cohen agreed to an extension with the Buccaneers and removed himself from the consideration for the Jags job. Cohen met with Jaguars on Thursday to discuss the vacancy despite the news of his return to Tampa, which would have made him the highest paid coordinator in NFL history. Jacksonville reportedly reached out to coin after the team fired Trent Balky to see if he would reconsider the offer. And after their talks, it appears Jacksonville has their guy.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I like it. I like it. And the fact that, the fact that he chose to leave even though the Bucks were going to make him the highest paid offensive coordinator, you know, they.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Gonna make it by D. Gonna make more than we were gonna make a Jag.

[Sports Analyst 1]

How you figure?

[Sports Analyst 2]

He gonna make at least $7 million with the Jags the highest paid coordinator. Probably make him make $3 million. We. Remember we just talked about Spagnolo making three. No, that's.

[Sports Analyst 1]

That's what I'm just saying. But if they, if they, if they're telling him to leave the job, Going to reconsider, I'm sure. Allow him to reset the market on whatever it is.

[Sports Analyst 2]

No, they're going to ask him to rec. No, the Jags ask him to reconsider. So they're going to give him a head coaching job, which would probably be somewhere around 7 million. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers was only going to give him three million.

[Homes.com Representative]

Three, four million dollars.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Okay. Okay. Yeah. No, I was just saying. Okay. I had it backwards, but I knew he was leaving. Absolutely.

[Sports Analyst 2]

And. And look, and you're over everything. You're, you know, you're responsible. I mean, the head coach comes with a lot of responsibilities. You're not. You're not responsible for one side of the ball. You're responsible for the whole ball. Offense, defense, special teams, when we're going to practice, what time we're going to meet. Okay, what's the, what's the. The training, you know what I'm saying? As far as weight, schedule. Okay. Injured players, what time do they have to be there. How long the meeting gonna last? What time are we gonna leave Ocho for road trips? Where are we gonna stay? All that goes on the head coaches. So congratulations. I mean, I hate it for Baker because Baker had really under his guidance.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, he was Baker.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Baker had looked like the Baker that they took. That the reason why they took him with the number one overall pick, I think, in 2016, the last two years, he showed you. And a lot of that had to do, I believe, had to do with Liam Cohen. Not to say Baker doesn't have talent, because obviously you go first overall, you got talent. But I think he had found someone that believed in him, that had an offense that was really catered to what he does really well. He had nice, quality receivers outside with Mike Evans. Even though Chris Godwin got hurt this year, the young guys had come along. I love the running backs that they got, but I hate this. I hate this for Baker, But I'm excited for someone to get an opportunity to be a head coach because, hey, last two years, he's done a great job as an OC for Tampa, and he's getting rewarded for his hard work.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Oh, yeah, that's dope.

[Sports Analyst 2]

So what do you think? Oo you. You like the boy?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Absolutely. Absolutely. Listen, if he can do. If, if. If he can do. If he can do what he did for Baker, imagine what he would do for Trevor Lawrence. Baker Mayfield had Mike Evans. Now, young, young bull is the stud over there in Jacksonville. Now, chat, I don't know. Y'all pay attention to Brian Thomas Jr. But he's the reason he's in the Pro Bowl. There's a reason he's in the Pro Bowl. So that magic he had in Tampa with Baker and Mike Evans has always been Mike Evans, but I'm sure he can create that same magic between Trevor Lawrence and get him turned around, you know, after getting that huge payday. And Brian Thomas Jr. They go, your security blanket right there. Your security banking right there, Travis.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

There go your security. Blame it. Right?

[Sports Analyst 2]

Take Bigsby. I think you probably need to do a little bit more with the offensive line. Sure. That up. I think they got a pretty good defense. Maybe. Look at. Look at a corner. Look at a. Look. You got a high draft pick. You got a quarterback, you don't need a quarterback. I wouldn't spend a high draft pick on a wide receiver. I wouldn't spend a high draft pick on a tight end. I don't know if there's anyone that's worthy to be selected. Is there an offensive lineman that's worthy of a pick that high? Probably not. Maybe a defensive lineman, maybe a db, but yeah, you got Trevor Lawrence, you got Brian Thomas Jr. You got Evan Ingram, you got Tank Bigsby, you got Trevor atn. I mean atn. So you got some nice quality pieces, but you gotta have to protect, you're gonna have to protect Trev and he's gonna have to do a job of protecting himself.

[Sports Analyst 1]

They have the number one pick, right?

[Sports Analyst 2]

No, Tennessee has the number one pick.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Shoot. Okay, that means Shador, the Shador is going first in.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Jacksonville's at five.

[Sports Analyst 1]

So let me see. It's Shador. Probably go first to Tennessee. The second would be.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I think Cleveland's at two.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Then Cam Ward would probably go two. And who in New England is three, right? No.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Giants are three, New England's four, Jacksonville's five.

[Sports Analyst 1]

That might be a shocker right there. Two at three.

[Sports Analyst 2]

The question is, would Tennessee be moving to move down? Is there somebody that's in the draft that Tennessee says we must bet, we must have, and we don't believe he'll be available if we slide down to 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. That's the question, Ocho. Because the question is, are Tennessee one player away, Ocho, or do you need multiple? Okay, if I can slide down and get next year's first rounder, get a, maybe pick up a second or third this year and a second and third next year and in 27 maybe get a fourth, I think that's the, that's the best option because I don't think any of these teams are one player away. Now obviously everybody's not going to slide down, but if I can, if I can, if I can slide down Mocho and really, really, really build, I think I'd be willing to do that.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I don't see anyone sliding down, especially with the players that we have going that are slotted in the mock drafts to go top five. I don't see any team coming out coming out of those.

[Sports Analyst 2]

No, I, I should mark draft ocho. Shador Sanders. 1. Tennessee. Abdul Carter, the edge rusher out of Penn State. 2. Cam Ward, quarterback out of Miami. 3. Travis Hunter, the all purpose all do it all. Wide receiver, cornerback, New England, Mason Graham, D line, Michigan. Will Johnson, cornerback, Michigan. Will Campbell, offensive lineman, OT Jets. Now this is just a mock, obviously. Clearly Tennessee needs a quarter now. You know, listen to them talk today. They're like, hey, we're willing to bring Will Levins back, but kind of informed him that there's going to be competition.

[Sports Analyst 1]

We know what that means. And maybe that would be good, a good thing for Will. Maybe that'd be a good thing. Having someone to help the, the force. You compete at a high level, you know, to force you to minimize your mistakes. Because you know, when you got somebody looking over your shoulder, they can do two things. They could either make you or it can break you. A lot. That's a lot of, that's a lot of pressure. When you know you can't make no mistakes. When you're trying to play mistake free football, then you start to press. You start pressing. That ain't a good thing. It depends on how he's built mentally.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I agree. I think the thing is, Ocho is that AP did a disservice to the Raiders by winning that game. Cause they slid down from one all the way to six. So there's a possibility that you could lose out on Cam Ward and Shador.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Listen, listen. In the war room, you never know what's going to happen. You never know what goes on. They have those phones in there for a reason. So maybe something may happen, you know, before the draft or during the draft. And maybe somebody comes up and snatches the player that they want in their board to make sure he doesn't get away.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Well, they really don't have a whole lot of tradable pieces. The one piece they got is Crosby. Max Cosby Crosby. That's the one. That's the one piece that everybody would be willing to give up a first round pick or multiple picks for. I don't see anybody else on that roster that they would be willing to give that up for Brock Bowers. But they're not trading Brock Bowers.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hell no.

[Sports Analyst 2]

But Max Crosby is the only one that I see that has the, that has the capital attached to him that somebody would be willing to give up. He's the most valuable. He and Brock Bowers are the most valuable pieces. Well, clearly they're not trading Brock Bowers, but I don't think the Raiders are one player away.

[Sports Analyst 1]

But they need damn quarterback. That's what they need.

[Sports Analyst 2]

They absolutely need a quarterback situation.

[Sports Analyst 1]

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[Sports Analyst 2]

Mark Andrews publicly apologized for dropping the ball on what would have been a game tying two point conversion. It is impossible to adequately express how I feel. I'm absolutely gutted by what happened on Sunday. I'm devastated for my teammates, my coaches And Ravens fans. I pour every ounce of my being into playing at the highest level possible because I love my team and I love the game of football like nothing else. That is why it's taken me until now to collect my thoughts and address this publicly. Even though the shock and disappointment are unlike anything I've felt before, I refuse to let this situation define me. I promise that this adverse adversity will only make me stronger and fuel us as we move forward. I thank everyone that has shown me and our team genuine support these past several days. Despite the negativity, I've seen heartfelt love and encouragement, including from those who have generously donated to the breakthrough T1D organization. Even when the moments seem darkest, perspective can reveal that there is still a lot of light in this world. I'm now going to do my part to bounce back and contribute to it. Hashtag, God bless. Ocho, was this necessary?

[Sports Analyst 1]

No, no, not at all. Not at all. There's nothing you can do. There's no point of, you know, writing. Writing an apology. There are ups and downs. There are obstacles, there are hurdles in a game. You don't owe anybody on the outside of that locker room an apology. You talk to your players, you talk to your teammates, you talk to your coaches, you know, and you let them know how you feel. There's no need apologizing publicly to everyone that hasn't put in the work you've done. They're not there in training camp with you. They're not there at meetings with you. No. They're not bleeding with you. They're not going to war out there with you. Now, they do support you because they are fans of the team. Any apologies should be had within that team to individual players and nobody else, if that's what you see fit and doing. But that's the birth of brotherhood.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You know, they. They. They not going to be talking trash about you and. Oh, man, you just.

[Sports Analyst 2]

No, it happens, Ocho. I mean, I remember Ernest Byner and I E.B. i know E.B. i mean, new E.B. a long time. He was in Baltimore when I was there. You stayed in contact with him. He fumbled the ball. He was running into the end zone. Ocho, he had a touchdown that would have put the Browns in front of the Broncos and got pulled it out. It happens. Yeah, it happens. Look at Billy Buckner. The ball went right through his legs. Magic Johnson had a situation.

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They used to call.

[Sports Analyst 2]

They called him tragic. He had a chance to win the game. He drove the timeout. They lost in overtime. He Was a two time finals mvp. So fans are going to turn. Look, I don't care what you've done.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah. Oh, they're turning you quick now. They're turning you quick. Their loyalty is not with you. The loyalty is there with you simply because you're a part of you on.

[Sports Analyst 2]

The team they root for.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah. That's it. That is it.

[Sports Analyst 2]

And I just think the thing is he'd have came out. He'd have come out much better. Just a. I'm devastated, guys. We had an opportunity to tie this game up. I like our chances from that point on and just living it. But Ocho, you can't run. Yeah, you can't run.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You don't have to say anything. It ain't about running.

[Sports Analyst 2]

No. Oh, you've got to speak after the media. Oh, let me ask you a question. Had he called. Had he called it and they won, do you think Mark Andrews would have spoke?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he. Oh, he.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Why you said he don't have to speak.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Oh, I mean, no, I'm saying, right, that. That written letter that like, like we've got. That's not necessary.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You've got Ocho. This is why I'm a firm believer. You have to be able to handle adversity the same way you end up.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Prosperity. I didn't realize Success.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah. I didn't realize. He didn't speak to the media. I.

[Homes.com Representative]

He didn't speak.

[Sports Analyst 2]

He didn't speak after the game and he didn't speak in the exit interview.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, see. Yeah. I mean, but the whole, the letter thing, that's like.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, I ain't writing no letters.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Nah, I ain't no point for all that, man.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I mean, I might write that thing to my boot. Thing.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He had a great season. Mark Anthony.

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[Sports Analyst 1]

Mark Anthony dropped four passes this season. Huh? He dropped four passes all year long. It just so happened they came at the wrong time. Two of them fumbled. Came at the wrong time.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yes. You know, it happens though, Ocho, I.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Think after that first drop, you know, everything else was in his head after that.

[Sports Analyst 2]

But here's the thing. Even on the first drop, they went down and got a touchdown. So we can't hold that against him. They scored on that. If. Look, it's at the end of the game. This is what everybody remembers, the fumble. Buffalo went down and got points out of that. The two point conversion, you know, they weren't able to get the onside. Now there was a minute and 33 seconds with two timeouts. Now you're going to have to ask your defense, we'll never know. Maybe the defense gets a turnover and they go and they win the game. Maybe, hey, they go down and Buffalo kick a field goal and they win the game 30 to 27. We'll never know. But you have to be able to handle. You have to be able to handle adversity the same way you handle success. Because it's not what happens to you that determines what do you do once that happens to you. And I believe Mark Andrews is made of the right stuff. You don't have the success that he's had in this league. He's been an all probability. He's been a Pro bowl player. He's been Lamar Jackson's most reliable weapon since he's been in Baltimore. We can't, we. There is no denying that. And Zay Flowers had an unbelievable season. But since Lamar has been there and Mark Andrews has been there, Mark Andrews has been his most reliable weapon. And I can imagine, Ocho, I've been there. I dropped the pass that would have given the Broncos home field throughout the playoffs. I just say if I'm ever in that situation again, ain't happening. Well, five years, six years later, I'm in that situation. Third and eight.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

In the situation in Baltimore, third and 18. Mark, I promise you, you come back and make a play next year to win a game, win a playoff game, just keep your head up, bro. You're strong, you're a great player. You're going to be up there with all the other grades, with the Ray Lewis's and the Suggs and Ed Reeds, the Peter Bolwells and the Mike McQuarries, the Jonathan Ogden's. You're gonna be up there.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You're gonna be all right.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You're gonna be up there.

[Homes.com Representative]

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[Sports Analyst 2]

You're gonna be okay. So pick your head up. I know it's hurting. I know it hurts, bro. I know it hurts because of the finality of it, man. What could have been. You're so close, but, bro, you'll be okay. I promise you, you're gonna be okay. And it's tough, you know, all your teammates say, ocho, they try to tell you the right thing, man. You know, man, hey, man, it ain't your fault. We win together, we lose together, but secretly like, nah, bro, not that difference on you. Yeah, that's what. Hey, but see, that was different with us because I remember we, we lost to the giants, Ocho, in 90, in 98, we was 13. We was 13 and three played on a Saturday. And we take the lead. We weren't playing well. TD was really sick, but TD gave us an outstanding effort. I think TD might have had 150 yards. TD was sensational, man. They go 87 yards in three plays. Man. We get on the bus, you know, everybody head down, quiet. I walk by the dude that gave that touchdown. Like you caught us just undefeated season. Damn.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Damn. Huh?

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah. We were like that, Ocho. Yeah, for sure.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Golly.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah. Oh, timakai. I said, oh, yeah. You like to call stuff you like. Hey, you like to fill out like you did in Pittsburgh?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Mm. Mm.

[Sports Analyst 2]

No. Oh, no. Oh, but we had. But Ocho, we had that type of relationship with the guys. Oh, we had no problem. You drop a pass or you gave up something. Oh, yeah.

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[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah. You gonna hear about it.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah. They on you.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. For sure. But you a. Me and Burns. That was. Oh, we gonna keep you humble. Oh, oh, especially you know what I'm saying? You gave up plays in the game become practice. You, Dion, you all were do that in the game. Oh, you got me. You got me locked up. You over there talking. You doing this all in my face. Why did you do that on Sunday? Oh, yeah, Ocho. Yeah. Hey, we could let. We can't let. Hey, we can't let you get too high. We got to keep you right here. We got to keep you right here. Because if we keep you right here, Ocho. Yeah, we know we can have you. You start feeling good about yourself, and all of a sudden you start bull driving. No, we gotta keep you level. And so. Yeah, I wouldn't have written a letter. Me personally, Ocho. That's him. That's how he handled it. I would have been mad enough to. I'd have been man enough to stand up there in front of the. Yeah. I let my team down today, guys. I did. If somebody would have told me I was gonna have an opportunity to atone for the fumble, right by catching a two point conversion and giving our team an opportunity to potentially take this thing to overtime.

[Sports Analyst 1]

No chance.

[Sports Analyst 2]

That's all I could ask for. All. All you want is an opportunity to put. To be in that situation. Because a lot of times, Oo, you don't get an opportunity to be in that situation to catch a game changing play or a game winning play.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Moments like that come. Come around every so often. Every so often, though. It don't happen all. It don't happen all the time. Now it's fortunate enough because of the team he's playing for. They're going to always be in contention and he's going to always be making for Lamar Jackson.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst 1]

So he gonna be all right. He gonna be all right.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Victory goes to the man that's prepared. Look. They call it the volume.

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