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Unc
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Rob Gronkowski
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Unc
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Rob Gronkowski
Rob, I've never asked, are you a dips guy?
Unc
Like the workout?
Rob Gronkowski
You can't tell. No, I mean for your chips.
Unc
Oh, I knew that.
Rob Gronkowski
Yeah, of course.
Unc
You got to try this new Daisy's French Onion Dip. Goes great on Sundays.
Rob Gronkowski
I like the sound of that. Everyone knows you need a good dip for game day. Personally, I like to dip everything I can. Veggies, crackers, chips. Heck, I might even dip a buffalo wing in there. That reminds me, they also have Daisy's Ranch dip.
Unc
Now you're speaking my language. Yup.
Rob Gronkowski
Seems like a no brainer on game day.
Unc
So get out there and give the French onion dip a try. You won't regret it.
Rob Gronkowski
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Unc
We got a special guest. We got a special guest. We got a special guest. Jordan. He got a hat on. He probably should have had that hat on in the fight. He probably should have had that hat on the fight, and we never knew what we saw, and it wouldn't have happened.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
I know y' all got jokes. I got jokes for y', all, too, man.
Unc
Well, we got jokes. We got jokes. Just when you think you seen everything that could have possibly happened in a fight. Jarell. Big baby Bill. Say, you know what? I bet y' all never see this. I bet y' all never see nothing like this here. Hey. Oh. Oh. Come on, baby, baby, baby, baby.
Ocho
You ain't all. You ain't gonna put it back.
Unc
Why not?
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
I'm gonna leave it like this. I'm gonna rock out. Grab these checks right now for a few weeks before I cut it.
Ocho
Okay, okay, okay.
Unc
Hold on. You ain't got the glue out of that. Hold on. This right here, what that is right there, I know that ain't your real.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
That's my real. That's my real head. I got real here.
Ocho
That's the lineup, huh?
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
That's the real head.
Unc
Let me ask you this before we get into the fight. You know, they told you if you get that. That glue, you can't get that thing wet. You can't sweat. Why would you go do that today, a couple of days before the fight?
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
First of all, go to a Bible. You want to take as a professional advice and believe what he's saying. My man said he gonna slap the tape up there, and he gonna slap the T up there. It gonna be double reinforced. So I assume what he's saying is gonna be facts. It's gonna be true. Boy, that boy hit me upside the head. All I was. All I felt was ag. I said, oh, no, I think this thing is coming up. I said, I think we might be screwed right now.
Unc
Hey, man, when they say you pull up on the scene with the top missing boy, that's what they meant. I said, oh, my. So. So when did you know? When did you know it had start to pull? It had started to sleep away from the cow, man.
Ocho
All right.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
So. All right. So first I kind of felt it. So I have my left glove on my. On my right side of my left side of my left side.
Unc
I'm trying to hold it down.
Ocho
Huh?
Unc
Yeah, right.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
God damn. You try to hold it down. But I said, nah, I don't think it happened. But then when I sat down and my coach is giving me instructions, he'll never stutter. He started like two, three times. And then I seen his eyes look down at me, then look up, then down and look up I said, oh, I think he went up, but I know he's trying to stay focused now, you know, distract me.
Unc
But I said, you know what?
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
God? I said, if I look at the Jumbotron and this thing is up and they replay it, then I know I'm screwed. And so said, so done. When I looked up, I said, oh, I'm screwed. I said, you know what? We're gonna roll with it WWE style.
Unc
And I just took it off, threw.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
It to the crowd, and then the first thing he said was, yo, you get your ass whooped? I said, I'm getting my ass whooped and I'm losing my head. I said, you gotta rock out with this one.
Ocho
Hey, so. So after that point, after your coach told you that, obviously you took. You took the. The hairpiece off. What was your thought process after that? Going. Going into the rest of the fight.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Man, just win, Just win. Just win. Just win. Because I know I've been off a year and a half layoff, and the ring rush is caught up to me, and I thought everything would have been good. I know I feel like I could have knocked him out a couple times in a fight, but for some reason, I just wasn't pulling the trigger. You know what I'm trying to say? So I said, you know what? My cousin Nas said? Yo, just get the win. Just get the win, and we gonna.
Unc
Go back to the drawing board.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
And that's what I did, you know, thank God, you know, I went and got that win, and I'll be back to the drawing board.
Unc
Baby. Big baby. Was it distracting? Did you. Did you know, like, well, damn, I ain't really fighting. I'm trying to keep this thing on and trying to punch and trying to dodge punches, man, I just need to. Hey, the hell with this.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
That's it. 100, 100. You know, we all from. We off on the block, man. You know, one thing our brother's gonna do is he gonna get back home, so. So you know you're gonna get clowned, and you got your ass whooped for you.
Unc
I got married.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
So I said, you know what? Forget the hair. We gonna roll with the punches, get this win, and I'll take it after that, you know, And God, I'm going say, God. God bless you in mysterious ways, man. I pray to God, I said, God, whatever I do this weekend, let me get through this weekend, man. And, man, we flying, flying.
Unc
I know you ain't going back to that barber again. That man told you a dream because you. You can't get that Wet.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Yo, listen. He sold me more than a dream. He sold me my future. And then all of a sudden, I see. See, go up and smoke. Listen, I blame my cousin, too. He was bubbling my bubble nice. He ill with it. I said, he got the joints.
Unc
Oh, yeah, yeah. He got the unit. Oh, he go.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
I'm gonna put him on blast. He right there on the couch. It's him. He said. He said he got the joints. I said, all right, bet. Let's go over there. Because what happened was I got here. Yeah, but, you know, I went to a bar, you know, to get a little enhancement. You know, I went to one of Spanish spots. Yo, my man hit me with the double spray cans on both sides. So, you know, I walked out on a Friday, on a. On a Saturday. I said, let me try to get it to, like, a Monday. So I put the durag on and went to sleep and all that. I guess that chemical must have dried my hair. Everything started breaking off by, like, Tuesday. So I get to New York on Wednesday. Now I'm like. I'm trying to do a haircut. I'd be like, yo, pain, too much hair to cut back here. I said, oh, no. I said, slap the joint on it, man. Let's do it. Let's just do this.
Unc
Because you know that they.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
They.
Unc
They cut everything. So it's supposed to be like skin and then you.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Yeah, yeah.
Unc
But normally they just put the glue. But they. But they're supposed to tell you, you can't get this wet and you can't sweat.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Your uncle, he said he gonna put the tape and he gonna put the glue. I said, okay, it ain't gonna move. I said, all right, cool. But he knows, for another big brother.
Unc
Like me, you gotta get your money back.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Oh, man. Everybody's gonna get half. He ain't pick his phone up since.
Unc
You could and use that piece again. I mean, you ain't get your money worth out of that one.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
The piece got lost in the crowd. Somebody says on ebay for, like, five grand. I said, who? I want my dad.
Ocho
Hey, baby. I'm getting. I'm getting ready. I'm getting ready to get one of those, too. I'm getting ready to get one of those, too, for.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Yo, listen, when I go.
Ocho
When I go on. When I go on a live show with Unc and we go on the road, I'm gonna get the hairpiece. I want the kind, like, all the way where it's kind of an Afro, but it's. I'm talking about this waves. I Want. I want mine to look sick.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Oh, you want. You want 360? You want the 360?
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
So, yo, listen, listen, listen. What we need to do is we need to go to Vietnam real quick and we get our own line of man weaves. We come up with our own lines, bro. We call it the O and J. We called the OJ Lines.
Ocho
We should do that.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
We killing it.
Ocho
Do that. I'm serious, though. I'm doing mine.
Unc
The OJ Line. Yeah, yeah. I don't know, Big baby, that gonna go over too well. Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying that oj, we killing it.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Oh.
Ocho
Hey, I just caught on. I just caught on.
Unc
Yeah.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Come on. Soon as hell. Sooner, sooner later they gonna hear me out.
Unc
But. Yeah, but let me. So. But you. But you got hair on the sides. It's just the top because were they. Have you used the follicles?
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
I. Man, I. We lose everything, man. It just. It just broke off, man. We gotta start fresh. We can really see. I got some new growth coming already.
Unc
But, see, I was gonna say go to Turkey and get. But if you got hair back here, they can pluck it and then implant it. But I don't know if you got enough hair back there, big baby bro, listen, I did.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
I did the turkey thing. I had fixed my hairline a few years ago.
Unc
What happened?
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
That hurt, man?
Unc
I don't know.
Ocho
Wait a minute. Hey, hold on. You can go to Turkey and you can get. You get your headline fixed.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Yeah, you get all that fixed.
Ocho
What about my beard? What about the texture of your hair, man?
Unc
They do all that. They do all that.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
I was blessed with that. Thank God. If I have no beard, man, I might have been screwed. But, you know, they could do all that, though.
Unc
They be using ultra pubic hair and underarm hair for hair on his head.
Ocho
Hey, baby, I want. I want like a. I want a beard. Like, you know, like, I'm from Philly. I want. I want to filled all the way in, man.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Well, right now you got to think about the only other hair you can use to put on your face is going to be the hair on your nuts.
Unc
That's what I told him. Yes.
Ocho
Oh, no, no, I'm good because.
Unc
And all that lint ain't going to be nothing but some lint up in there.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Make sure you better be crab free because you put some crab in your face.
Ocho
You know, my hair grows straight because the texture. Because I got Cherokee in my skin. So it's like if you got. If you got a girl you gotta. You got. Got a wife. Like, my hair grow, like, Brazilian curly.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Yeah.
Ocho
So it curl up, man.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
You can sell, man, you can sell that. So every pubic, three inches of grand.
Ocho
For that, I would sell that with you. Let's go.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
We gotta make a check.
Unc
Don't you think if that man had luscious locks like that, he'd have facial hair? He'd have. His hair wouldn't be shiny at the top?
Ocho
No, no, because I don't like maintenance. I want to be able to get up and go. I don't like maintenance.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Listen, I've watched Ultra Shingle for many years. My man loved to save his money. So if he could shave his head himself, he gonna save a dollar. So maybe that's. Maybe that's a footprint. I need to follow it because I spent several hundred for this.
Unc
Seven hundred. Hey, did you feel something hit you in the back? Did something hit you in the back when you walked out of the shop? That was 650.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
I even go. I even gonna lie. When I first seen it, when it got done, I was proud of it. I was like.
Unc
Oh, yeah, that thing was nice. Big baby.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
It was nice.
Unc
I ain't gonna lie to you.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
It was fire.
Unc
Yeah.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
It was juices and berries. Juices and berries in that. I ain't going front. It was nice.
Unc
It was nice.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
It was nice. But God had other plans for me.
Unc
Yeah, but you. But, but. But as much as a boxer sweats, ain't no way that thing was gonna hold. Even though he told you he's gonna double tape it and double glue it. It's not gonna hold. With that kind of perspiration. All those bright lights, you moving around, that thing gonna lift.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Honestly, I wasn't supposed to get hit that much.
Unc
You had a fight, bro.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
But I. I usually don't get hit that much. Not that much. I mean, I got hit a lot.
Unc
Yeah, you did. I mean, that's what that boy, that thing was like rocking robots. Big baby bro, that boy.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
But he lumped me up. I ain't gonna lie. That ring was tough. Cause my eye hurt, my nose hurt, my head got. Look, my air got stitches in it. Home week gave me cauliflower. I was in hospital for four hours getting my ass drained. So, yeah, man, he got. He got my ass a little bit.
Ocho
What's next? How much time you gonna take off? Who do you think about fighting next? Is there somebody you want to see in your next fight?
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Well, there's a couple offers that came to me today. About six weeks from now which, that's a little too quick, only because of my ear injury. But I'm thinking eight weeks, seven to eight weeks. I want to fight again, you know, because I'm, I'm ready. I'm about. I want to get another £20 down. I want to be a solid 300. I want to get my cardio and fitness back in the gym. But you know, time is ticking, man. I want, I want to go, I want to have.
Unc
How much you weigh coming into this fight?
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
317.
Ocho
Oh, that's not bad. That's not bad.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Yeah, but it's. See the problem is when I was five years younger, six years younger at 317, I was still throwing 70 points around and I had knockout story. I fought cruiseway head champ, knocked him out in the third round. Then I for another one contender knocked him out of 315, so a little older now.
Unc
I said, you know what, it ain't.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
The same no more. I gotta get this way down, man.
Unc
You know, ankles, knees, it gets harder as you know, the big baby to get that weight off because we, what weight that we could get off in two weeks, three weeks, a month.
Rob Gronkowski
Maybe.
Ocho
Is there a name, Is there a name? Somebody you want to fight next or you, you just, it doesn't matter.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
There was a guy from. He's a Cuban, he's number, ranked number one name is Pedo something. He's Cuban in Miami. Oh, he's a good brother. Yeah, he's in Miami. Yeah, he's in Florida. You know, I'm almost, I'm mostly in Florida. I'm mostly in Delray. Okay, But I'm in New York. I'm in New York mama house because I got my ass whooped a little bit. So I want some home cooking. You know, I'm trying to, trying to ease my pain a little.
Unc
That's why you 3:17. You got to stop eating mama's cooking.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Yo, stop. Don't, don't. Listen, let me live for a day. I lost my, I lost my hair, man. So you know, you know, my mama cooking gonna give me some confidence, you know. So you know, once I get a.
Unc
Warm, warm meal, you got, hey, you got to get rid of this though, man. You got to get rid of this. I'm good.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
All the only reason I ain't cut it yet is because my 4 year old son was laying on my, laying on my head and he's rubbing his daddy. I love it. And then, you know, I talk to my boy, he said, you know, keep it for a little Bit. We did a bunch of TV shows and stuff today and they said, you know what, man?
Unc
I'mma rock out for five more days.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
And, you know, but we'll get a shaving endorsement company. We're gonna shave it on TV or something. I don't know. We're gonna figure it out.
Unc
But will your hair grow back here? Will your hair grow back in the back? Will it grow?
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
I think it's most of it will grow, but it definitely was a pitch patch from the chemical burn. So that's the problem now. So I'm gonna grow it and see how far it's gonna get to. And maybe when we smack some sea moss or some, you know, black seed oil or catch the oil back there, some zinc and magnesium and some, you know, some of that Haitian stuff and see what happens.
Unc
Let me ask you a question. Were you at any point in time, were you embarrassed? You're like, damn, but they gonna clown my ass when I get back to the crib, man. They gonna let me have it.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
I made peace with it the minute I seen on the game. The minute I looked up, I said, it's like, I. I kid you not. I kid you not. It was like I had a premonition from God. I said, I'm roasted. And God said, boy, you better run with that. And I just ran with it, right? And that was it. Ever since that moment, I've always been the kind of person never care what people think. Anybody know me know I've always been a clown. I'm always clowning myself. I'm always clowning my cousins. Like I come from a big family, you know, in New York alone, I probably got like 100 cousins, like blood related cousins. So, you know, we get together, it's a roast. I'm more scared of them than most than media any day of the week because I can't beat my cousins up. But yeah.
Unc
Cause you see them all the time, the people in the media, everybody like, hey, I remember you. You the one that you, you, Your top, you know, your top came off, but your cousin just now, they gonna let you have it.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
We was in a restaurant just now in the city and three people was like, aren't you big baby with toupee. I left my cap up. They started dying and taking pictures. That's cool.
Unc
That's funny.
Ocho
You know what I mean?
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
I take it for what it is.
Unc
Congratulation. You a good sport about it. But the best thing to happen is that you won. You can't lose your toupee. And get your ass kicked in the same night.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Uhuh, man. What was the comedian, what's his name, Godfrey? He said he got a two pay, two piece. We got two piece toupee. I said, you know what, these jokes is gonna keep coming at me, but yeah, at least I got the win.
Unc
Real big Baby Davis had a, a very eventful heavyweight fight. He won the fight, baby.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Davis in jail. He's in jail.
Unc
You stole that bad day. Hey, no, Big baby Davis though. Big baby Miller, bro. You won the fight. But you know they'll never. This is going to be forever. You do realize your kids kids is going to see grandpa and that piece come off.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Listen, it's all good though. All that matters is we keep winning, man. We get that champ, we get that championship belt. Like I says, man, I got three beautiful kids, I got a big family, I got my health. You know, we, we get into this bag, man, and like I said, entertainment, end of the day, you know, box is not gonna last forever. You know, my main goal is to get in tv, you know, rather be movies, commercial, entertainment. I love Shaq. Like, Shaq is like, yeah, man. Like, you know, and what he's done outside of basketball is what made me so, you know, infatuated with that man, man, because he's a. He don't say so much, but he does so much with his presence in it, you know, that's what I want to be one day. Something like a Shaq.
Unc
Well, you definitely, you definitely got the entertainment side. You definitely go out an agent and you can definitely do commercials. You, you, you definitely have the personality, you have the spirit now.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Thank you, brother.
Unc
Hey, obviously this boxing thing, you want to see how far you can take this boxing thing, but I definitely. You have a career in entertainment.
Ocho
Absolutely, man.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
You got a good agent, let me know.
Unc
Oh, Tyrone Jarell, Big Baby Miller won the fight, lost the toupee. Congratulations on the success and come back. Stop back by and Hollis at us again soon.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Thank you. I appreciate you guys, man.
Unc
Much love.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Keep doing it, man.
Unc
Ocho, man, this, this dude here, man, he was unbelievable. He's a great sport about it at that point in time, like you said. I mean, what, what could he do? You're in a fight, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, you in a fight. And you know, he's like, man, I'm trying to, I'm trying to hold it down with my right hand. I'm getting punched. I can't punch. You're like, man, let me get. Hey, this thing gonna cause me get my ass whipped.
Ocho
You Know what? Something like that couldn't happen to a better person because he has the right personality. He has the right personality for something like that to happen. Based on his background, having that big family and. And knowing what comes with it. Listen, I'm not worried about what the rest of the world gonna say. I'm worried about my cousins. I'm worried about my family. I'm worried about them jokes. I ain't worried about nobody else. But the fact that he won the fight, it makes everything. It kind of balances everything out, because if he had lost on. If you had lost and you two.
Unc
And lost his toupee. Oh, my goodness.
Ocho
Yeah. Yeah.
Unc
Hey, we get together. Us.
Ocho
Oh, yeah.
Unc
People that look like us. Oh, yeah.
Ocho
Oh, it's gonna happen.
Unc
We Jones.
Ocho
Hey, them jokes gonna fly whether you want or not. The fact that you won is cool.
Unc
But you finna get these jokes all day, every day. When we get together with my. My former teammates, where I go back home or I. Savannah State, we get together or my former Broncos.
Ocho
Right.
Unc
Boy, we start breaking up stuff. Hey, ma', am, you remember such and such. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, yeah, that's just. That's just how we are. Like I said, you go to a. A hbcu, if you didn't have thin skin, you couldn't survive at hbcu.
Ocho
Oh, yeah. Absolutely not.
Unc
You could.
Ocho
Absolutely not.
Unc
You could. Man, he. But his personality, Ocho, he definitely can. He definitely can do something outside of boxing.
Ocho
Oh, yeah.
Unc
Yeah, yeah. We. We need him to get him on the boxing pod. This is Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules. Rob, I've never asked, are you a dips guy? Like the workout?
Rob Gronkowski
You can't tell. No, I mean for your chips.
Unc
Oh, I knew that.
Rob Gronkowski
Yeah, of course.
Unc
You got to try this new Daisy's French onion dip. Goes great on Sundays.
Ocho
Daisy, like the sour cream brand?
Unc
Yup. That's how you know it's going to be fire.
Rob Gronkowski
I use their sour cream all the time.
Unc
Goes perfect with my taco Tuesday dinner.
Ocho
Oh, Jules the chef. I love it.
Unc
Yep. And now I've added the daisies French.
Rob Gronkowski
Onion dip to my Sunday spread. They make it with all natural herbs and spices. I like the sound of that. Everyone knows you need a good dip for game day. Personally, I like to dip everything I can. Veggies, crackers, chips. Heck, I might even dip a buffalo wing in there. That reminds me, they also have Daisy's ranch dip.
Unc
Now you're speaking my language.
Rob Gronkowski
Sundays on the couch just got even better. Yup, seems like a no brainer on game day.
Unc
So get out there and give the French onion dip a try. You won't regret it.
Rob Gronkowski
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Unc
OCHO Adam Schefter reports that the Browns will hire Travis Switzer to become the next offensive coordinator on Todd Monkin staff. Switzer and Monkin are both making the move from Baltimore to Cleveland. Monkin was the offensive coordinator for the Ravens the last three season while Switzer spent nine seasons with Baltimore. He will run. He was the run game coordinator for the last two seasons and quality control assistant and analyst before that. Switzer. Is it Switzer or Switzer? Switzer does not have any experience calling plays and Monkey will likely reveal how the team will handle this at his introductory press conference tomorrow. Monkin's gonna call the plays what do you mean? What do you mean? How are we gonna handle that? Todd Monk is gonna call the plays, right? That's what he told. When he told Got with Andrew Barry and, and, and. And Mr. Haslam and D. He said he's gonna call the plays.
Ocho
So the new. The new hire. Just. What is the new hire gonna do if he has. If he has a title? Huh? That's it. You just had the title.
Unc
Just like. Who called the plays? Who. There was an offensive coordinator in Denver who called the plays? Sean Payton.
Ocho
Sean Payton.
Unc
There was an offensive coordinator. Mike LaFleur was the offensive coordinator with the Rams. He got the head job that the Cardinals. Who called the plays for The Rams? Sean McVeigh.
Ocho
McVeigh.
Unc
Coordinators being in San Francisco. Who called the plays? Kyle Shanahan.
Ocho
Shanahan.
Unc
So I don't know what you. At the introductory press conference. He has a title of an offensive coordinator. He ain't calling no plays.
Ocho
Right?
Unc
Hey, and I don't have. I don't have. I don't have a problem with that, Ocho.
Ocho
No. No, not at all.
Unc
Matt Nagy had the job of offensive coordinator for Kansas City. So did Eric B. Enemy. Who called the plays, Ocho.
Ocho
Mr. Reed.
Unc
So I'm just. I'm confused why we got to have an introductory press conference. Like, okay, we hired an offensive coordinator. Oh, we're gonna see who gonna call the plays. Todd Monkey is going to call the plays.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
I mean, and I don't have a problem with that.
Ocho
Yeah. It doesn't take a press conference for that.
Unc
Right.
Ocho
But obviously, new coach, protocol media.
Unc
It'S. Look, I don't have no problem. Basically, you're ghost. I ain't got no problem with no Ghost Riders.
Ocho
Right.
Unc
I don't, Ocho. Yeah. You know, and I think people, as we move further rap in this hip hop, in this rap industry, Ocho, we're getting way where people are not looking down on Ghost Riders as much. Yeah, it's still a thing. I mean, I look. Oh, yeah. And everybody ain't come up like they did, like Big Daddy Kane and all those guys, you know, in KRS 1, all those guys are doing cyphers and spitting on command. Everybody didn't come up like that. So the further and further you get away from that, the more. I mean, that was real hip hop. Yeah, that was. That was absolutely frowned upon. But now I don't think. I don't think it's as. As bad as it once was. I don't think it's demonized as much as it once was. Go ahead. What do you want to say, Ocho?
Ocho
No, no, I'm right. You're right, you're right. I'm gonna say especially when it comes to the male and the female, depending on who the rapper is, if you have a ghostwriter, it's still frowned upon. Hugely. I mean, I, I never really understand it. Obviously, I'm not in that world. All I know is I, I, I, I listen to the finished product, you know, and enjoy. But for those who are, who are enthusiasts in the hip hop world and hip hop culture, I, I, I didn't know that they hated people having ghost riders. I, I didn't, I didn't know it was such a bad thing. But I come to find out it is.
Unc
I look at, look, I mean, some of the greatest comedians have what, Ocho?
Ocho
Help with writers.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Ghost writers.
Ocho
Writers, yeah.
Unc
Some of the greatest songwriters, some of the greatest song. You see how they do it. Now look at. I wonder if people, I wonder if somebody will wrote for Whitney or Mariah or Rea or Patty or Gladys.
Ocho
Right.
Unc
Stephanie or Luther. Sam Cooke, Donny Hathaway, Usher. I wonder if anybody wrote for Sinatra. You think they work for Sinatra? Dean Martin.
Ocho
Yeah. Hope, hello. Quincy Jones.
Unc
What about Adele? You think anybody help Adele? What about Lady Gaga? What's the one that lost the. What's the one that lost the life the mosquito went from?
Ocho
Hey, hold on.
Unc
Who?
Ocho
No, no.
Unc
They tried to send me to rehab. I said no, no.
Ocho
Amy Winehouse.
Unc
Amy Winehouse.
Ocho
Oh yeah. Legend.
Unc
Some of the greatest voices of all times. But only a rap. You ain't no real rapper.
Ocho
Yes, if some. They say a rap is different, huh? They said when it comes to rap, you can't have a ghost rider. It has to be authentically your fault.
Unc
You notice how everything is different in our community. No other community have that. You notice that, Ocho.
Ocho
I ain't think about it like that.
Unc
I don't. We hold ourselves to a standard that no other race of people hold themselves to. And then you wonder why we don't work together. But okay, You see that? Think about it, Ocho. We'll hold ourselves to a standard that no other race, no other genre of music will hold themselves to.
Ocho
Right? Do you think it's different when it comes to different genres of music? It's okay if you R B, if you sold, if you neo soul, black.
Unc
R B, y R B.
Ocho
Right. But I'm saying when it comes to rap, do you think it's, it's a little bit different in that lane where.
Unc
You Just, oh, us is different.
Ocho
Right? Okay, I got you. I got you. I got you.
Unc
That's the difference. But you do each his own. Hey, yeah.
Ocho
Damn, man. Listen, if I was a rapper, I'm definitely gonna have some help. You know, somebody's vision, somebody's ideas might be better than mine. I mean, everybody can't go in the booth and just hit a 16 right off the top of the head. Everybody. Yeah.
Unc
I agree with you 1,000%, but, hey, to each his own.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
Each his own. That's what, you know. Hey, but I don't. Look, Mike LaFleur didn't call play. Sean McVeigh did. And there have been a lot of coordinators that have gotten jobs by not calling plays. And that's. That's one of the things that you were speaking to Ocho. You was like, okay, we want somebody to call plays, but you hiring somebody that never called plays. But you use that against some that say, well, he didn't call the plays. Well, the guy that you hired before him didn't call plays either, and it wasn't an issue.
Ocho
It's all on who you. It's all on who you know. Yeah, some. Some people can. Some people can be overqualified, and they still don't want you. But I'm gonna hire my friend who doesn't call plays, but I'm gonna give the. Give him this title, because that's my dog, and I'm gonna make sure he has a job. Again, the game within the game.
Unc
There it is. But. The Browns, I sure hope they can get it. What you thinking?
Ocho
I hope so, too. I know what's going to be good over there. I know that. That goddamn defense. That defense is going to be good. Now, offensively, I'm not sure what's going to happen.
Unc
They were good last year.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
Ain't winning. It takes a team. Now, Ojo, you used to be really dominant on one side to be so. So on the other side. Not today's game. Yeah, no, not today's game. When you. When you first got into the league, middle, way through, you could have a dominant defense and be okay offensively, right? That ain't happening no more, Ojo. That ain't happening no more.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
What you thinking?
Ocho
I mean, you. You said you hit the nail right on the coffin. Wait. No, you hit the nail on the head. Wait, how you go again?
Unc
You hit the nail on the head.
Ocho
Oh, yeah, you did. You hit the nail on the head.
Unc
Yeah, that was the final nail in the coffin.
Ocho
Ah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I Mixed it up. I mixed it up.
Unc
Yeah. You can't drive attack nail with a sledgehammer the same way you can't drill a spike nail with attack hammer. You'll know what a spike nail and attack nail.
Ocho
Yeah, but you know, I used to do. I used to be a carpenter. I know about that.
Unc
What you using spike nails and carpentry for? You don't expect that big ass spike nails.
Ocho
Yeah. What I used to do. Demo.
Unc
Demo.
Ocho
Yeah, I used to demolition houses and put in. Put and build houses.
Unc
Oh, Lord have mercy.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
Who in the hell let you build a house, huh?
Ocho
Man, I went, I went to school for that. I had a plan B. That was my plan B. Construction.
Unc
I don't know. Ojo.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Yeah.
Unc
You ever did no construction in your life?
Ocho
Oh, but look at my hand.
Unc
Hold your hands up, let me see your hand. Nah, you ain't got no damn cow.
Ocho
You don't see all them calluses?
Unc
Hell no, I don't.
Ocho
Look at it. Look at my hands.
Unc
You ain't, you ain't did no cross tie. You ain't pouring no concrete. You ain't lay no asphalt.
Ocho
Hey, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't done about 30, about, about maybe two or three rules in Miami.
Unc
What rooms?
Ocho
Roof.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Roof.
Ocho
I used to do roofing and all I could lay a roof on. I'm telling you, bro, get that tar down there. No. Got the mask on for the smell, man.
Unc
You ain't did know what to call them. You ain't know how to do. No, you don't know.
Ocho
I'm gonna see you. I'm gonna see you. I'm gonna send you a clip of my work.
Unc
I know you ain't been on the damn roof. You know no hot ass roof in the summer in Miami.
Ocho
No, we, we have, we have fans.
Unc
That's a hard ass job. First of all, anything that's manual and it's outside, oh, it's difficult. It's hard.
Ocho
Especially out here.
Unc
You get the elements, you get the cold. I mean, construct, you get cold, you get heat. You know, a lot of times it gets hot. And like in southern states, it gets so hot. I mean in Vegas they work from like midnight to like 6:00am yeah, because it's so hot during the day. I mean, it's on in the pavement blacktop. You're talking about 120, 130 degrees. So they gotta let the sun go down. And so when the traffic. So you basically working in, you know, probably somewhere between 10 and 6, right? Maybe get your eight hour shift in. But on the side it's the same thing. I mean, they work at night because it's so hot during the day. Georgia, California, Georgia, Texas, you know, Mississippi, the southern states. You ain't do that, don't you?
Ocho
All right, I'm just telling you. I know you're not gonna believe me, but you know, I'm a man of many talents, man.
Unc
Well, it's funny that you couldn't fix that damn camera, but you can fix everything else.
Ocho
Well, the camera worked. Now, you notice that we had Nobody.
Unc
Came in and fixed it.
Ocho
Not you, ain't nobody, Ain't nobody come out. I fix it. You cannot tell you how I fixed it.
Unc
Calling somebody.
Ocho
No, I just watch YouTube.
Unc
Hey, all I do is. God dang it.
Ocho
Hey, we ain't had no elgato problems in a minute.
Unc
Hey, we had no elgato. We had no elgato. So we had elgato probably about a month. Ocho.
Ocho
Yeah, because I, I ain't had a damn settings the right way, man. And that's, that's why I kept cutting off.
Unc
But no, it's going to be interesting. I, I look, I'm anxious to see what the Browns does. It looks like Shador is going to start at QB1. Hopefully, you know, they put get some weapons around him to get him some better protection. As far as offensive line, I like what they have running ball, Judkins running the football. But look, they need some weapons. They need weapons, they need offensive line protection. And so I think that's the kind of the direction that they're going to go in to try to make sure they get this thing going. Because look, we'll see what the Steelers do. Desire Rogers come back, they got a new head coach, Mike McCarthy. Baltimore has a new head coach and mentor, and Zach Taylor is still there. We'll see what they can do. Can they get it right? I think this is probably going to be his last year. Ocho.
Ocho
Zach.
Unc
Yeah. If they, if they don't make the playoffs, make a deep playoff run. Joe getting frustrated. I think Joe getting frustrated with it. Oo, don't you?
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
He said he wants to win.
Ocho
He does.
Unc
I think is addictive. Oo so is losing, though.
Ocho
He, he got to do his part. That's all you got to do. You got got to do your part.
Unc
Got to be part.
Ocho
Hey, every Sunday, all 18 games, I need you. All 17. I need.
Unc
Sure, yes. But you gotta give him some better protection. You gotta, you gotta be. I mean, some of this stuff is like freaky.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
I mean, you know, the, the wrist. I, I didn't even see where he like, he hurt like you just throwing the ball. He said like he did that to his wrist.
Ocho
Yeah, Yeah. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go bother all them boys. I'm gonna see all them boys tomorrow. I'm gonna bother him.
Unc
Oh, Joe bad. I thought, Joe, Joe, this like, hey, Joe, we need you. And I mean, I think about it, I ain't hear nobody say Joe Flacco didn't deserve to be in the Pro Bowl. Like they were saying Shador. You notice that, Ocho? Yeah, well, so, so, so where are all these people that say, oh, Shador doesn't belong? Joe Flacco belong in the promo.
Ocho
You know, people got selective.
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Ocho Drake May, who was injured who's right throwing shoulder in the AFC Championship game, said he took a normal number of throws at practice today and that the recovery has turned a corner leading to the Super Bowl. I'm feeling good, I'll be just fine, may said before Winky I think I turned the corner landing on the flight felt good. From the flight throwing out there today I really had no doubt being 100 for the game. It's Super Bowl. You get two weeks prepare for it. You do whatever you have to do to get right and I've got confidence and I feel good. He said looking forward to a normal week of prep practices Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.
Ocho
That's a good thing. He feeling good then he gonna get some rest before the game. They're not gonna throw a shoulder out. They're not going to throw him too much with their soreness. But you want to get the bulk of the work. You want to get the meat and potatoes of your game plan in before you give them time to rest before that game. So I, I, he's going, he's gonna be okay. You know, obviously you know he has the, the, the, the access to the best, to the best rehab and treatment to make sure there's no soreness after the practices. Obviously you have your masseuses and, and all the, the laser and all that, you know, crazy stuff that they have access to now. So hey, he definitely gonna be all right.
Unc
Yes, I think you have a. No, I mean don't y' all look, you have a normal prep. Whatever you do at a normal Wednesday when you back at your place, that's what you do, you just. It's a lot of. It's a, it's a, It's a bit different because, okay, we got curfew, not curfew. We got. They served us breakfast and they served us lunch. They gave us a per diem for dinner. We're on our own for dinner. Right, you got curfew. So once we got back, we were done. I mean, once we got back to the hotel, so we had. From basically probably floor 4, 4 o' clock until 11. So we got down there on a Sunday, we had curfew at 1:30. We. Monday we had curfew at noon. I mean, at midnight after that we had, it was 11am because we're on a normal, we was on a normal schedule. And you just, I mean, meeting rooms is conference rooms and things like that. So it's a little different. And you know, you got a room where, okay, you want to watch some extra film, right, Instead of you taking it home, there's a room that you can watch extra to film. You know, you, you play video games. They got video games. They got pool tables, they got ping pong tables, they have ice hockey. I mean, you try to, you try to make it as normal as possible, but normally we're not. I don't stay in a hotel leading up to a game, so. And, and you're in a, you're in a different city, but, but that's it. And you know, you try to make it as normal as possible, but it's not, you know, it's not. Everybody knows it's not a normal game. You don't stay in a hotel the night before, the week before. Gave the whole week. You might go that Saturday night. Ocho, right? Did y' all stay at a hotel Saturday night before the game?
Ocho
Yes, we had to stay. Even if, whether we were playing home or away, we had to stay in hotel.
Unc
Okay, now you're in a hotel Sunday night, Monday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night and Saturday night. So for seven nights you're at a hotel where it's normally, it's one.
Ocho
Yeah, I mean, but that shouldn't, that. I'm hoping that shouldn't be an inconvenience.
Unc
No, no, no. You, you try to get, you try to, you try to make it as normal as you possibly can.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
You have your big meeting, your offensive meeting, then you break up into your individual meetings.
Ocho
Right?
Unc
What we did is that we installed. We put everything that we were going to do in the game, we put it in the week before.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Okay.
Unc
So Once we got to San Diego, once we got to Miami, once we got to Tampa, everything was a dress rehearsal. Speed, let's go. Yeah, you already done gone this no mistakes. I gotta get that tape. Boy. I was cooking. Oh, that first one, Ocho. That the one on one period, huh? I'm getting that tape. I was cooking, Ocho. Your boy was cooking. Your boy. Hey, boy. Running that dick. Hey, you like. Damn, you running things like that? Yeah. Yeah.
Ocho
Okay.
Unc
Yeah, I'm gonna take. As a matter of fact, when I get up here, I'm gonna say, bp, I need you to put the. Put that. Put together that super bowl tape. When we was in San Diego, I was cooking. Felt good.
Ocho
Yeah, I gotta see that. I gotta see that.
Unc
Oh. Oh. You're gonna be like, ain't no Titan running, though. Ain't no Titans running with running routes like. I ain't no. Was Titans running routes like I was running then and they ain't running like that now. I promise you.
Ocho
Okay. Talk your. Hey, let it know. Okay? That's what I'm talking about.
Unc
Yeah. Yeah, it was a good old days, Ocho. There was a good old day. You. Well, you went.
Ocho
How about.
Unc
What was y' all super bowl in Indy, right? What was your super bowl was in Indy.
Ocho
Yeah, I forgot. I forgot what we played.
Unc
I think y' all played in Indy. That was in 20. I'm trying to think.
Ocho
That was 2011. Was it 2011? 2012.
Unc
Let's see. They. They. Y' all lost the Super 8. 2000. Okay, 2007. They lost the Super Bowl.
Ocho
Hell, I can't remember where we played at.
Unc
Steelers. It might have been. It might have been 2010. What year was the. I think it was 2010 because 2011 was the packers and. And. And. And. And the Steelers in Dallas. 2012 was the. The Ravens and the John and the 49ers. What year? What year? 2010. 2010.
Ocho
Packer. Steelers.
Unc
No, what year was. It was that 202009 and the 2010 year, but 2009, that the. The Giants and the Patriots, They played again. They played twice. Yeah, so I think that was in. That was. That was in Indy because I remember being there because I did a thing for kfc. As a matter of fact, I went to somebody house and we had. They delivered kfc, Ocho.
Ocho
For real?
Unc
Yeah, they did. Yeah, it was okay. Yeah. So that was. It was. It was a 2011 season of 2012. It was a 2012 that it actually happened. Okay. Yeah. As a matter of fact, that was the first year for The NFL honors. That was the first year for NFL honors. Oh, show. Things got a little shaky today in San Francisco. Head of the Super Bowl. Over two dozen earthquakes of magnitude 2.5 or above jolted the Bay Area. In total, more than 40 quakes struck in the area this morning, ranging the magnitude from 1.3 to 3.9. Ocho.
Ocho
Yes, sir.
Unc
You know, the weather can impact the game sometimes. We. We normally think of rain, sleep.
Ocho
Right.
Unc
Wind, earthquakes. Don't need normally come into play unless we go back to the 1989 World Series between the Giants, if I'm not mistaken, and the who? The Giants and the A's. That was the Bay Series. Yeah. So we'll get a little impact. We're gonna get a look the first time in, In, In.
Ocho
In.
Unc
In super bowl history. Maybe a little quake.
Ocho
I. I don't think so. But my little bit of knowledge about earthquakes and the equator and all that stuff and the imbalance, it's not. I don't know much about it. I'm not one to sit here and, and talk about, but I don't. I don't think it's something that will continue to happen, you know, over the rest of the week, especially on Super Bowl Sunday. Hopefully, you know, earthquake has gotten what it need to get out right now before the game, and, and then there are no. There are no more interruptions. I'm not sure if we have any people in the chat that have. That have a better understanding of why earthquakes happen, regardless of what magnitude it is, but let's hope. Let's hope and pray that. That there are no more and definitely nothing of, Of a huge magnitude that can not only damage the city, but, But. But ruin. Ruin that. That good game that we looking forward to on Sunday.
Unc
Have you ever been in an earthquake? Yeah.
Ocho
In LA, of course.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Yeah, absolutely.
Ocho
You remember I was in LA from 90, 97 to 2000.
Unc
Yeah. It's. It's a funny feeling to feel to. To feel. I mean, stuff like. Hold on, is that an earthquake? I mean, what. We were on air one at Undisputed, then one time I was in the bed and the bed just started shaking.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
I mean, it's quick, like three seconds, four seconds.
Ocho
Yeah, it ain't bad. Yeah.
Unc
I'm like, damn. You know, first I thought, you know, I. It was earthquake earlier that night. You know what I'm saying, don't you? You know what I'm talking about. Mm. But I'm. It's interesting. I wonder how the players. That's never been. I don't I don't. I wonder if the players. When did Seattle get to town? Okay, because what you call them, they both ride yesterday, because. I know. Okay, because sometimes they come in on a Monday, but I think maybe the NFL has forced them now. They need to come in on a Sunday, because we got there that Sunday. We always came in on a Sunday. No, it's like a couple of seconds. I mean, I mean, if you. But you know, if you, if you in it. Because I was sleep and it woke me up out of dead sleep, right. And I was like, damn, that's an earthquake.
Ocho
And. And it depending on the magnitude, too, if it ain't.
Unc
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But this one was like a five, wasn't it, Ash? The one that hit. Yeah, it's like 4.2. You know it, Ocho.
Ocho
Yeah, that's not that bad. I mean, 4 14. Not that bad.
Unc
Boy. Wow.
Ocho
4.2 ain't that bad, huh? That's. That, That's a little tremble now. You started getting in the, in the sixes and sevens now.
Unc
So now you talking about that. Now you talking about structural. I mean, there was some structural damage, but now you talk about. You talking about casualties? You talking about. You talking about thousands of people. When you start talking about 6.70, you talk about the one that, the one that hit San Francisco back in the 30s, I think.
Ocho
Yeah, I'm. I think that was way over six. Six or seven.
Unc
Yeah, I think it was seven now. Oh, so you start talking about. You start getting 9 and 10. Now you talk about a whole civilization.
Ocho
Yeah, that's.
Unc
You talking about stuff going into the ocean. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. What's. What's the heaviest one recorded? I think there was one maybe, maybe Chile or Mexico, but I think maybe nine.
Ocho
The deadliest or the base magnitude.
Unc
Magnitude. Well, see, that, that, I mean, that ain't nothing. I mean, but when you get a condensed population, when you get somewhere where they're. Oh, oh, okay. That's what led to the salon. Okay. That's what. Okay. Yes, yes, I remember now. 227,000. Wow. But wasn't there one in Mexico or Chile or something? In year 1303, there was an 8.0 earthquake in China. 200K.
Ocho
There's several in China. Damn. Nine point.
Unc
Yeah, yeah. Because you got such a heavy concentration. There's a lot of people. Ooh. Right there. Biggest, most recent one was 2010.
Ocho
And Katie, that was 7.0.
Unc
Wow. So hopefully everything, everything is under control. We get great weather because I, I hate games like this because I was at the Super Bowl O in Miami.
Ocho
Oh yeah, it rained. It rained.
Unc
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ocho
The coast, the coast Bears game.
Unc
Coast Bears game. Yeah. And it's like. Yeah, I, I just want, I just want the two best teams not who handled the conditions the better.
Ocho
Right.
Unc
You know, so I, I just want, especially that game.
Ocho
Now.
Unc
I get it sometimes, Ocho, you know, you, you in the mid, you're in the northwest or you're in a situation and the team has earned home home field and it's, you know, weather is inclement. Right in the Super Bowl. It's supposed to be really nice. Supposed to be really nice.
Ocho
Yeah, it, it will be. It's gonna be. Listen, the game is at 3 o', clock, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Weather gonna be nice.
Unc
Three, three o' clock West coast time. Six. Probably like six something East coast time. Yeah, yeah. 3:30. 6:30.
Ocho
Yeah, it's gonna be nice.
Unc
Yeah. I'm hoping Mike Brable was asked the dumbest question to do. Ocho. Let's take a listen to the question asked and how he responded.
Ocho
Is this a must win game? A must.
Unc
Wendy, I think every time we go out is a must win game.
Ocho
I mean, it's, it's kind of the.
Unc
Attitude that I've always taken in the National Football League. It's the Super Bowl.
Ocho
I mean, why do you ask a question like that as a reporter? Do you just ask questions just to hear what the answer is going to be, even though the answer is somewhat common sense or you just want to hear the coach's answer? Is this a what is this a must win game? It's the last game of the season. It's the Super Bowl. The whole point is to win. Okay, maybe I'm tripping. Or maybe you just wanted to hear what Rabel's answer would be to said question.
Unc
That's the, I mean, come on now. I get it. And sometimes you say, hey, will you marry me? And all kind of foolishness, but come on, this seems to be a c. I, I'm assuming, right? This is a seasoned report.
Ocho
You think so?
Unc
And I get Ocho and I get. Hold on. You know, Ocho, sometimes during the season the team has lost like two or three games and they ask, is this a must win game? But it's the final game of the season. If once you get to the playoffs, yes, every game is must win. You try to win all of you try to win all of them. But when you. There is no. There's finite finality Compost season.
Ocho
Yes.
Unc
There is no week one is this. So you lose week one and, you know, is week two a must win? Well, we like to win, but it's not a must win. We still got 15 more games to play, right? You lose, there ain't no more games to play in the postseason. If you lose, there's no more games to play in the. In this, you lose the Super Bowl. So I don't. I don't.
Ocho
Maybe. Maybe they were. No, I want to say it was a skit, so it couldn't have been a skit. I'm sure that was a serious question, because someone wouldn't be in that room to be able to have access to be even asked a question unless it was someone with a credential.
Unc
Ocho. Sean McVeigh just completed his ninth season as an NFL head coach. He has had seven head coaches hired off his staff. Matt LaFleur is now the head coach, is a head coach. Shane Waldron is a head coach. Kevin o' Connell is a head coach. Liam Cohen is a head coach. Matt. Mike. Mike, the brother of Matt LaFleur, is a head coach. Wade Phillips, who was a former head coach, got a head coaching job. Brandon Staley, Raheem Morris, Chris Shula. So Chris Schuler, probably gonna be the next one. Ocho.
Ocho
Yeah. You see how. You see how that works? Huh? I got you.
Unc
Here's McVeigh talking about it today. Let's take a listen. What he had to say. Ocho.
Ocho
All right. Can't hear him.
Unc
You muted coach.
Ocho
Too much time on my phone.
Unc
Okay.
Ocho
We got a lot of great coaches in house, but our job is to continuously build, and it's like putting together a team.
Unc
You know, you're coaching staff, and we've had a lot of reps at it.
Ocho
For a lot of the right reasons. But I am excited about diving in, and it never fails.
Unc
Every time me and my wife go.
Ocho
On vacation, somebody's usually getting a head job, and then I'm spending too much time on my phone. That's dope.
Unc
Didn't Zach Taylor come from Mr. F, too?
Ocho
Hey, that. That has to be a. That has to be a great feeling. Yes.
Unc
People that.
Ocho
That have coached with you and coached under you, that have helped help you with success on the team that you've had be able to. To branch off and go and go and be coaches at other places. I mean, that. That has to be one of the greatest feelings. And obviously, Sean McVeigh has done one hell of a job, a tremendous job down there. In Los Angeles and, you know, you had the players, you have the personnel. Like he does is somewhat. Makes the job a lot easier. When you have a Matt Stafford, you got a pooper, you got Devonte Adams, you. You gotta. You got a Fisk. And some of those. Some of those players, defense, I mean, defensively, so, I mean, it's.
Unc
It's all young. Verse.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
Verse.
Ocho
Yes.
Unc
Landmine.
Ocho
Yeah, they're. They're really good.
Unc
Yeah. I mean, you look at Kyle, you look at Robert Sala, you look at D' Amico Ryan, you look at Mike McDaniel, you look at Sean McVeigh, who's actually on his staff, A lot of these guys. Mike, I think LaFleur was on that staff that ended up going with Sean.
Ocho
Right.
Unc
But they are very close, and that's how the coaching community works. You know, if you get a job and, you know, you do your job and you, you know, you're loyal, when that guy gets hired, there's a great chance you'll always have a job. Bobby Turner is always gonna have a job. He was our running back coach in Denver back in 95, and he went everywhere Mike went. And when Kyle got a job, he. Guess what? He's on Kyle staff.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
So that. That's how it works. But he had. He's a. He. He was. He's a very, very, very impressive. And, yeah, Sean should feel very proud. Ocho, obviously, he's won. He's 1. He's won a Super Bowl.
Ocho
Yes.
Unc
Lost 13 3. And I think. I think in the process of losing 13:3, I think that's when he came to the realization, Ocho, he needed a better quarterback in order to win the Super Bowl.
Ocho
Yeah. And get him over to hump. Yep.
Unc
I. I think that's. I think that's when he realized, like, you know what I mean, we held Tom Brady, the 13 points. I think they picked him, and we had every opportunity, but we just didn't have the quarterback that can make those throws. And. Yeah, you see, since then, they haven't. Haven't had a problem. Oh, Cho. USA Today ranked the greatest players in super bowl history. Tom Brady, obviously, was number one. Joe Montana was number two. Jerry Rice was number three. Terry Bradshaw, 4, Charles Haley, 5. Doug Williams, Emmett Smith. Hold up. Nah, I can't even read no more. They got Patrick Mahomes at the 15th greatest player in super bowl history. He's behind Eli Manning, Bart Starr. Yeah. I don't even want to read no more of this.
Ocho
Yeah. Maine.
Unc
Come on now. What we do? What Ocho, what we doing here? I don't. So you mean to tell me that Patrick Mahomes, of everybody that's played in the Super Bowl.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
He's the 15th best player? Not.
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Not.
Unc
I'm not. Oh, so the 15th best player.
Ocho
I have a question.
Unc
Yes.
Ocho
This is an article, right?
Unc
Yes.
Ocho
Do they have a name by. Is there a name?
Unc
USA Today. Who wrote this? Who wrote this? They write 50. If you want to say. If you want to say Montana Brady.
Rob Gronkowski
Who?
Unc
Yeah. Nate, you on some.
Ocho
Who? Nate what?
Unc
They got this man behind Eli.
Ocho
What's his name? Nate what?
Unc
Nate Davis.
Ocho
Huh?
Unc
Nate Davis. Hold on. How is highest. How is LC Greenwood? They got. LC Greenwood is the 20th greatest player in super bowl history, and he ain't in the Hall. Brady's in the Hall. Montana's in the Hall. Rice is in the Hall. Bradshaw, Haley. No. Doug Williams, Emmett. No. Eli.
Ocho
TD.
Unc
Joe Neymar, the venitarian, he's up. Bart Starr is in. Lynn Swan is in. Steve Young is in. Patrick Mahomes will be in. Jack Lambert is in. Kurt Warner is in. Franco Harris is in. Ray Lewis is in. So only three of the top 20. That's not in the hall of Fame.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
And Mahomes is not eligible yet. Man, just listen by. I. I Chad. I. Chad, I can't even read this to you no more.
Ocho
The.
Unc
The mere fact that this man got. Is the best player. He's got Patrick Mahomes behind Eli.
Ocho
Have you. You seen Nate Davis?
Unc
No.
Ocho
Okay. I mean, when you see Nate Davis, you understand why his list looks the way it does.
Unc
Yeah. Nate, if you on radio row, come by and talk to us and, and you might have been on. On that laportier, when you put this list together.
Ocho
I would love people that have actually played the game, that understand the game to do lists like this, especially when it comes to a list of this. Of this magnitude, as important as ranking the best players to play in the Super Bowl. Like, come on.
Unc
I mean, okay, we got. Brady got five MVPs. Joe got three. Jerry has one, Bradshaw has one, Bradshaw might have two. No, he got one. I think he got. Let's see, Franco was MVP of one, Lynn Swan was one. John Stallworth might have been one. Bradshaw might have had. Bradshaw might have two. Does Bradshaw have two or one? Because I know Lynn had has one, and Franco has one.
Ocho
I would love. I would love to hear the argument.
Unc
Okay, I would love to hear the.
Ocho
Argument on why and how he came about the order in which he has the players as 1 to 15. I would love to hear that part. That would be more interesting as opposed to the order he has everybody in. How did you get to this.
Unc
Ocho? In the day leading up to Thursday trade deadline, the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Los Angeles Clippers have had advanced discussions on a deal that would send James Harden to Cleveland in exchange for Darius Garden Garland. The deal would represent an exchange of former All Star guards. Harden is under contract for 39.2 and 42.3. With 13. With 13.3 guarantee. The second season is a player option because the contract is technically for one year and Harden has veto power on any trade. He has a 15 trade bonus that is currently valued at $2.36 million. James Harden timeline He was traded to Brooklyn in 2021, traded the Philly in 2022, traded to the Clippers in 2023 and now February 26th.
Ocho
What you think about that? You think, you think you want to leave. Is Darius Garland healthy now?
Unc
He's been having, I mean I, I think he got nicked again, but he's had been having issues with, With, with his toe. You know, he had an issue with his toe last. I mean, I guess, you know, Harden's going to want a long term. You're going to want, you know, some more years.
Ocho
Yeah. Are they willing to do that?
Unc
It doesn't seem like the Clippers are because the Clippers, you know, they're willing to trade him.
Ocho
Oh, okay. Right.
Unc
And they had started. I mean they would, they were looking good. I mean, they've been on a hot streak. They started off slow, but Kawhi's playing scoring more points than he's ever had. James Hard is looking like an All Star.
Ocho
Right.
Unc
Even though neither player made the All Star, I'm surprised that neither player made it since the game is going to be in their building. I thought one or the other would make it.
Ocho
Would make it.
Unc
But.
Ocho
Well, that's weird. If they, if both are playing well right now and they don't, they look better than they did when the season first started, why would you want to trade them? I'm, I, I don't, I don't understand.
Unc
Hey, James is a better facilitator than Garland. He's still. Look, he's not what he, he's not Houston, James Harden, but he's not going to need to be. He's not going to need to be. They got Donovan Mitchell, they got those bigs. Jared Allen looked like Shaq last night against Port.
Ocho
Yeah. He had what he had 40 something, huh?
Jarell 'Big Baby' Miller
Yeah.
Ocho
40 something last night.
Unc
Yeah. 40 and 16. The Timberwolves are making a very aggressive push to sign Giannis before the Ring of Fame honoree, a former Pro Bowler and an All Pro, that is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you for your support, guys. Ocho and I greatly, greatly appreciate it. Guys, look at you. If you're looking to purchase a bottle of shave by La Portier and just head over to laportiercognac.com if you cannot find it in a state or city near you, it is a premium VSOP Cognac. The best tasting, smoothest VSOP cognac on the market compared against other cognacs. And you'll see we have the best cognac in the business. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Ticket for our super bowl live show in San Francisco are on sale now. That link is pinned in the chat. The show will be Thursday, February 5th from the Earps Theater in San Francisco. So Bay Area residents, Patriots fans, Seahawk fans, NFL fans alike, and if you're just a local resident, come up, come out and so show support for your UNC and Ocho meet and greet. Tickets are completely sold out, but there are still general admission tickets left. We want a special, special shout out. A special thanks to Jarell Big Baby Miller for joining us. He did win the fight, as you saw, guys. Very entertaining, very amusing, made light of a situation, owned it and. But he won the fight. So thank you, Jerrell, for coming on. We greatly, greatly appreciate that and wish you the best of luck moving forward. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We're off tomorrow like we usually on Tuesday, but we'll see you live from Radio Row on Wednesday morning. So from 10 to 1, right? No, from 1 to 4. Okay. Yeah, 10 to 1. Pacific East Coast Time. 11 to 1. Yeah. 1 to 4. Yes. So Debo and Joe kicks it off from 11 to 1 Eastern Time and then night, then night camp takes over from one to four.
Ocho
Hold on, hold on. So Debo, Deo gonna be there?
Unc
Yes, he'll be there.
Ocho
So he gonna be in arm reaching me?
Unc
Yep.
Ocho
Yeah, you better have security, boy, I.
Unc
Tell you that for Thursday night show also.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
So that concludes it for Nightcap. I'm Unc, he's Ocho. We'll see you bright and early. No Debo, enjoy. See you bright and early. We'll see you in the afternoon. Thank you for Joining us again? Peace, Sa.
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In this lively Nightcap hour, Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”) and cohost Chad “Ocho” Ochocinco Johnson host heavyweight boxer Jarell “Big Baby” Miller for a hilarious, candid, and good-natured debrief on his recent fight mishap and hairpiece woes. The episode then pivots to major NFL coaching moves, drama around who calls plays, the Drake Maye injury update ahead of the Super Bowl, a critical examination of USA Today's “Greatest Super Bowl Players” list, and closes with NBA trade rumors and Super Bowl weather concerns. The banter is fast, friendly, and self-deprecating, with the panel’s usual blend of expert analysis and easy, barbershop humor.
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| Timestamp | Segment | Notable Guests / Focus Points | |---------------|----------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------| | 02:19–18:05 | Jarell “Big Baby” Miller Interview | In-ring hairpiece debacle, resilience | | 23:25–31:13 | NFL Coaching Carousel & Playcalling Debates | Todd Monken hire, Switzer, play-calling | | 40:59–44:16 | Drake Maye Injury Update & Super Bowl Week Prep | Maye’s health, Super Bowl routine | | 47:56–51:03 | Earthquake Concerns & Super Bowl Weather | SF quakes, game environment fears | | 60:18–63:34 | USA Today’s “Greatest Super Bowl Players” Controversy | Mahomes' ranking, media credibility | | 64:31–66:03 | NBA Rumors: Harden, Timberwolves & Giannis | Trade rumors and analysis |
In Club Shay Shay Nightcap Hour 2, you get locker room stories, sharp sports dissection, and a roundtable that never takes itself too seriously—even when the toupee comes off in front of millions.
Best Line:
"You can’t lose your toupee and get your ass kicked in the same night.” — Unc (16:34)