Nightcap - Hour 2: blame Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton disgruntled, NFL “What-If” standings

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Episode Summary - "Nightcap - Hour 2: Blame Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton Disgruntled, NFL 'What-If' Standings"

Release Date: November 20, 2024

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe and Justin Jefferson
Guests: Primarily Justin Jefferson with interactions primarily between Sharpe and Jefferson

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In this compelling second hour of the "Club Shay Shay" podcast, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe engages in an in-depth discussion with current star Justin Jefferson. The episode tackles pressing NFL topics, including quarterback accountability, player frustrations, and speculative season outcomes. Their dynamic conversation offers listeners rich insights, spirited debates, and valuable perspectives on the evolving landscape of professional football.

1. Team Performance and Quarterback Accountability

The episode kicks off with Shannon Sharpe addressing recent frustrations within the NFL, specifically highlighting the New York Jets' struggles and Jamar Chase's dissatisfaction with the team's performance.

[04:33] Shannon Sharpe: "Chase is angry with the team's inability to close that game. Ask how do you fix it? He said. Ask Zach. Ask the coaches. Don't ask me. I just play football. I don't call plays."

Justin Jefferson emphasizes the crucial role of quarterbacks in team leadership and accountability, critiquing Aaron Rodgers' reluctance to take responsibility for the team's shortcomings.

[09:16] Justin Jefferson: "I would hope so. I would think at some point, understanding that you are the leader of that team, that some point, you take accountability."

2. Aaron Rodgers and Media Influence

The conversation delves into Aaron Rodgers' influence on the Jets' performance and the media's role in shaping public perception. Sharpe criticizes Rodgers for his demeanor and tendency to deflect blame, while still acknowledging his exceptional talent on the field.

[12:21] Shannon Sharpe: "I am. This is how I believe. I believe that there has never been a player or a person that's been above reproach. I don't give you what you deserve. I give you what you earn."

Jefferson discusses the importance of leadership in the quarterback position, lamenting the lack of accountability among top players like Rodgers.

[14:23] Justin Jefferson: "That's a good one right there."

3. Evolution of NFL Physicality and Safety Measures

Sharpe and Jefferson examine the NFL's shift towards increased safety measures and reduced physicality compared to past eras. They debate whether these changes have diluted the game's intensity and discuss the balance between player safety and maintaining the sport's traditional physical nature.

[27:45] Shannon Sharpe: "But it's not nearly as physical, Ocho. We know that and we understand."

[28:10] Justin Jefferson: "This is what we need to say. We're trying to make the game safer, but on the backhand, we're just trying to make sure we can protect our..."

4. Cam Newton’s Discontent with the Panthers

A significant portion of the discussion centers on Cam Newton's reported frustration with the Carolina Panthers. Sharpe addresses Newton's feelings of being undervalued and overlooked by the organization despite his significant contributions.

[34:10] Shannon Sharpe: "Cam Newton believes he's been erased and forgotten by the Panthers. I'm like, damn, I gave this city everything."

Jefferson praises Newton's legacy and contemplates his future recognition within the Panthers' franchise.

[37:02] Shannon Sharpe: "Cam is one of the two best players. One of the three best players. Four best players. So if you like Smitty, you like Julius Peppers, you like Luke Keickley, Cam Newton, Sam Mills. Those are your five best players."

5. NFL “What-If” Standings: The Impact of One-Possession Games

Sharpe introduces a viral concept analyzing how flipping the outcomes of one-possession games could dramatically alter the NFL standings. This speculative discussion highlights the importance of pivotal plays in determining a team's success over the season.

[41:03] Shannon Sharpe: "So something interesting went viral today. The NFL 'What If' standings. If all of the one possession games were flipped, Cincinnati Bengals would be number one, they'd be eight and two."

Jefferson elaborates on the critical nature of these plays, emphasizing their disproportionate impact on a team's overall record.

[42:37] Shannon Sharpe: "You create a penalty and you got the ball and you back your team up..."

6. Rising Stars and the Future of the NFL

The hosts shift focus to emerging talents in the league, highlighting outstanding performances from younger players and discussing their potential impact on the future of the NFL.

[43:11] Shannon Sharpe: "And you notice Eagles had 70 plays, Washington has 63. You see 60 to 65, you cook a little bit, Ocho, you get many. 70, 75."

Jefferson acknowledges the rising stars who are setting new standards and shaping the future dynamics of the league.

[46:00] Shannon Sharpe: "But yeah, he's playing really good for a guy. What is he, a rookie? Second year player?"

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• [05:05] Justin Jefferson: "Sometimes your quarterback won't always know everything... the fact that the guys collided, that means the ball really won't come."

• [10:12] Shannon Sharpe: "Mess, mess, mess. That's what they need to be shouting."

• [14:23] Justin Jefferson: "That's a good one right there."

• [27:10] Justin Jefferson: "...today's era of football is a little watered down."

• [37:02] Shannon Sharpe: "Cam is one of the two best players... those five best players should always have a montage."

Conclusion

Shannon Sharpe and Justin Jefferson wrap up the hour with reflections on the dynamic nature of the NFL, the evolving role of quarterbacks, and the importance of pivotal moments in defining a team's season. Their candid exchange provides listeners with a deep dive into the complexities of professional football, enriched by their personal experiences and expert analysis.

This episode offers a balanced mix of critique, appreciation, and speculative analysis, making it a valuable listen for NFL fans seeking comprehensive insights into the current state and future of the league.

Transcript

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[Justin Jefferson]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who said that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chase. Oh, a situation where they had a first. They had. They ended up getting the first down, right? But Joe missed Jamar for a touchdown. Guys pressed, he inside released, and the guys collided.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He went straight up the field. And when he threw it, he was jumping up and down. Joe didn't see him. I tweeted it. I saw it. They didn't replay it, but I saw it. I saw it.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah. Sometimes you know, your quarterback won't always know everything. He won't know what's going to happen. And the fact that the guys collided, that means the ball really won't come.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Justin Jefferson]

Anyway, because you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope, you.

[Justin Jefferson]

You wasn't the re.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And hold on. On that touchdown. Oh, Joe, let me just slip my mind.

[Justin Jefferson]

Oh, which one? Which one?

[Shannon Sharpe]

On the long touchdown to T. Higgins. They got him bracketed. Why, if the safety is inside, why is the corner trying to jump the slug on? Stay on the upfield shoulder. Oh.

[Justin Jefferson]

Oh, he. Oh, he trying to get that pick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Justin Jefferson]

He trying to get that pick. Are you trying to get that pick? Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, somebody said they replayed it. I didn't see it, but I. But I. But I. I tweeted immediately. And I know. I was like, bro, y'all got to play off. You can't be that close when you like that. Because what's gonna happen when he pushes up the field and one guy goes and hey, y'all gonna collide. And sure enough. But that's this frustration. He know. He knows they're running out of games and there are no two win games on the schedule. Which means what? I mean when people say two win game. A game in which you win and you get two victories for it. There aren't any of those on the schedule. So he knows this was a game. This could have started something. Something really, really, really, really good. Now, look, and the thing is, Ocho, you know, you don't want to going to the buy with a loss. Damn, that. That hurt. Ojo. That ruined your whole body. I don't care what anybody say. They lying. If they say it, it does.

[Justin Jefferson]

It's gonna sting. It's gonna stink. And then you know what? It does, too. Also, it put that much pressure on you. It put that much more pressure on you on the game coming up. Who we got to steal this, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but y'all. But y'all got a fight week this week. And T. Higgins. T. Higgins was frustrated with the banger. Said he. We can't finish the effing game.

[Justin Jefferson]

Get them boys hot, bro. Them boys hot. But what we need to do, it ain't even about finishing the game we need to start.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it's. Hey, we didn't start where we had an opportunity to finish it. And we missed two field goals. I would show you miss back to back field goals now. And the same way you hooked it left. Damn, bro, you didn't make no adjustment.

[Justin Jefferson]

Hey, listen, the most, the most difficult, one of the most difficult positions on the Field is kicker. It is kicker. You know, one slight adjustment, one slight mistake, a swing of the leg, you not keeping your head down at the ball, you know, allowing your, allowing your foot to sway a little further left than it should, it changes the trajectory of the ball. So as a kicker myself, I understand the difficulties that comes when it comes to kicking the ball, right? So, McPherson, all you got to do, you go back to your basics. Same thing with Justin Tucker. You go back to your basics, go back to your basic fundamentals when, when it comes to kicking the ball and start all the way over. Start all the way over and be yourself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kick himself in. Good boy. Chase about to hit them over the head.

[Justin Jefferson]

Oh, yeah, big time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the thing is, he ain't even got no mass. Y'all know it's him. So when you hear something pitch in the back of the head, just tell the cops, Jamar Chase just robbed us, right? Jets continue their heart continue to be terrible. The Colts go on the road and they win. Aaron Rodgers worst winning percentage than Zach Wilson and Sam Darnold in a Jets uniform. Winning percentage of starting quarterbacks for The Jets. Zach Wilson.364 Sam Donald.342. Aaron Rodgers.273. The jets fight Robert Sala when the team was 2 and 31 game, 1 game out of first place in the AFC East. The team 3 losses at the time. 49 is 5 and 5. Broncos 65, Vikings 8 and 2. Denver, Minnesota were 1 score losses. With the jets offense failing to score in the on their final possession since they fired Robert Sala, the New York jets are one in five.

[Justin Jefferson]

So who they go, who they gonna point the blame at now? I'm just curious.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The media.

[Justin Jefferson]

Who they gonna point the media. When Aaron Rodgers talk, who is he going to blame?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The media? Well, he can't blame, he can't blame Mike Williams. But the media is the stench in the building because they've been losing so long and these guys don't understand what it takes to win. He ain't gonna play. He'll put it on himself now. Oh, you waiting? Oh, you thought he'll say him?

[Justin Jefferson]

I. I would hope so. I would think at some point, understanding that you are the leader of that team, that some point, you take accountability. You take accountability for the fact that maybe I'm not playing well, maybe I'm not playing as, as good as I should be to give us an a chance to win in those moments when it counts most. Am I making the throws? Am I making the plays to give my team the best Chance to win. You know what? Right now I'm not playing. Well, not once, not once have we heard that at all. E the numbers for itself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Mess, mess, mess. That's what they need to be shouting. I would go to there with five, Marshall. It's on one side. I would be on the other side. M E S S I. I'm just. I didn't run out of people. Now look, you blame Robert Sala, you blame. What's the. What's the coordinator? Hackett. Nathaniel Hackett. You blame Mike Williams.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah, I want to know who next play calling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I'm just waiting on. I'm just waiting on the roll call. Who next chat who next who get blamed.

[Justin Jefferson]

Hey, again. The funny thing about it is this has been an ongoing issue whether Aaron Rodgers was there or not, regardless of what quarterback was at the helm, regardless of what quarterback was there in that situation, the jets have always had this problem. For a very long time. For a very long time. They haven't had a winning season for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought he found a fountain of youth. What about that? Cayenne pepper in water. I thought that was a fountain of the youth. Fountain of youth. What about when he, you know, what did he say? You got to embrace the darkness. I thought we embracing darkness. I thought we owned that house of Walker or that was. Or whatever it is. You know, that stuff, they get that hot the hallucinogenic properties in it and call you to go out of your mind. Maybe you need to take another trip. I mean, hey, they got a game next week, but why don't you go on vacation? I mean, ain't required. You know, games, you know, sometimes they're mandatory, sometimes they're voluntary. So maybe you take a, you know, take a volunteer trip. Just go away, right? I mean, three and eight. What you think? What you think the jets record would be without it? If I'm three and eight with it, you don't think I go three and eight without him and save 50 million?

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you paying for what you think you're going to get. You're paying for what you think you're going to get from the past and what he's done in the past based on his resume, that's what you're paying for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, that's what I love about sports, because it's the one thing that you require. You update your resume every single week.

[Justin Jefferson]

Got to. You got to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. Oh, you got this great resume. Oh, it's unbelievable. It's impeccable. Yeah, Janet Jackson said it best. She said what have you done for me lately, though?

[Justin Jefferson]

But you know what, you know, it's funny, you know, they always stand a certain position grace when it comes to what they've done in the past.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, that's what they think.

[Justin Jefferson]

They always extend a certain. A certain quarter, a certain position. They extend them grace based on what they've done in the past.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. I believe Ocho, I am. This is how I believe. I believe that there has never been a player or a person that's been above reproach. I don't give you what you deserve. I give you what you earn. He's earned the criticism in which we are leveling against him. Everybody knows. If you know me, if you follow Shannon Sharp for my time on Undisputed, I've been Aaron Rodgers biggest supporter. Do I think he's arrogant? Yes. Do I think he's flippant? Yes. Do I think he's condescending? Yes. Do I think he's dismissive? Yes. Do I think he blames others for his mistakes? Absolutely. But I say he's one of. He's the greatest thrower of the football that I've ever seen with my own two eyes.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I believe, too, I believe I can fairly assess, do I like how he's treated somebody to blame others? No. But that doesn't stop me from doing my job and saying he's a damn good when he plays well. I have no problem saying Aaron Rogers has played well for seven and a half years. But I know, but I've talked to people, I know people, and we'll just leave it at that. But hey, right. And you're right. A lot of time when someone is so great, you're willing to overlook their flaws.

[Justin Jefferson]

That's a good one right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's with anything. It's just not with sports. Somebody that's really good at something, you allow them to do a lot of things that you wouldn't allow somebody else to do.

[Justin Jefferson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But what I think the thing that I love most about a person, about people that have power, is then they don't abuse it. John knew John could miss practice and he could not be at minicamp or he could do something never, never right. But see, when you blow it off, see, they're. See, there's a difference between being able to influence people and being able to lead people. Now, don't y'all let that go over your head, man.

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[Justin Jefferson]

Hey, how you stop that man when they call you? Like how you stop when you're getting contributions from everywhere, from your running game, from your passing game. You got two receivers going over 100. You can't find a way to stop a Monroe, you can't find a way to stop James Williams. Then you got to deal with and run a game. You got to deal with Montgomery crazy. You got to deal with Sunk the Hedgehog and Jameer Gibbs. There's nothing you can do. And then defensively, they pant. Defensively, you get Brian Branch crazy and the rest of that company out there. They plan extremely well. I mean, what, I mean what do you do? What do you do? You hang up 52. This is an NFL game. This is the NFL game against another NFL team. An NFL team that's supposed to be the best of the best. I know it's the, I know it's the Jags, I know it's the Jags, but still These are the 1 percenters. These are 1 percenters in the world where we are displaying our best players that we had to choose from in a draft, in free agency or however they were acquired. I think they got 52 points hung up on them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Uncle Lamar says he can't explain his 1 in 3 record versus the Steelers. Heading into Sunday's road showdown against the Steelers, Lamar was asked why he struggles against the Pittsburgh more than any other team. I don't know what it is, man. Last year we were supposed huh, defense last year. But he's a two time mvp.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah, but you going against the Steelers defense. I'm not calling this still curtain, but they play extremely, they play defense extremely well. Not only that, this is, this is a divisional opponent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Justin Jefferson]

Every time you play a divisional opponent, they know all your tendencies. They know what's coming.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So why he have such success against Cincinnati?

[Justin Jefferson]

Don't do that. The Bengals, you ain't had to do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just ask you. I'm just saying. He's one in three against the Steelers. He's 175 against everybody else.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah, you ain't had to do that though. You ain't had to bring up the Bengals. You ain't had to take no shot because we talk about this, we talk about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't taking no shots.

[Justin Jefferson]

You took a shot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The reporter asked him why does he struggle against that team more so than any other team in the league.

[Justin Jefferson]

I told you, I told you the defense. The defense. The difference is, and you just said it just now, the, the Steelers defense Is very, very good. They're very, very good. Now the Bengals defense, you know, I, I, I don't mean no disrespect. We are not what we should be to be able to compete with the Ravens offensively. And Lamar Jackson, that running game, that, that's, that's the answer. Now what team has the personnel to deal with Lamar Jackson and King Henry? The Dealers. Yeah, I think Highsmith is out. But you got T.J. watt, you know, you have a solid, you have a solid mid level game. Joey Porter Jr. Playing good football, man. Man, you, what more can you ask for? And then you got Mike Tomlin, genius over there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He said, I don't know what it is, man. Last year we were supposed to beat them, but things just, just didn't go our way. The football gods weren't on our side. But it's a whole other year, it's a new year and I'm looking forward to this game. Lamar is 1 and 3 against the Steelers. He's 17 and 5 against the other AFC north teams. Pittsburgh is the only team against which he's thrown more interceptions. Seven than he has touchdown passes. Four.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, think things, things might change. I, I think, I think obviously out of, out of all the games are slated for Sunday, this might be the most interesting, the most interesting in the best game outside of the Bills in Kansas City, outside the building. Kansas City. This might be the best game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, look, I think people are looking forward to this. This game is a rivalry game.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is an opportunity to like for the division. I think the division lead will be on the line with this one. And so the Ravens would have the advantage because they beat the Steelers head to head. Obviously the, the Bills, we've seen these teams play so many times in the playoffs. I think that's Kansas City is 3 and oh against them in the playoffs. But I think they've only won one regular season game against the Bills.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's the only thing that matters.

[Justin Jefferson]

The Bills in the regular season are three and one against the Chiefs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. But only three of the post season.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the only thing that Patrick Mahomes cares about.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you look at Brad, there are a lot of guys that have winning records against breakfast. Well, not a lot of guys could. Brady didn't lose no time. Regular season, postseason, a preseason, that, that, that joker, man, we don't ever, I don't think we're gonna ever see anything like that. Like not, not, not the amount of games that he played and relative to wins and losses. Ocho, I don't think we're gonna see that again. No, I don't. I don't. I honestly don't. I mean, you got to think about it. They won the division damn near every year except the year he got hurt. So we can't hold that against him. But when he played, they won the division and they're going to win normally about 11 games. Even in a bad year, good year, they're gonna win 14. A bad year, they're gonna win 11. Yeah. And so he did that for damn near 20 years. Well, my bad for 23 years. Yeah, let that. Yeah, I don't think we're gonna see. We're not gonna see that again. It's like, you know, guys in baseball where they won five guys, pitchers won. I don't know if we're going to see another 300 game winner in baseball four. I know we ain't seeing no 400. That's, you know, what Walter Johnson did and Sandy Koufax. You're not seeing that. Guys winning 353 games, you're not going to see that anymore. Guys winning 200. I think Brady was damn near won 300 games. Ain't no NFL player winning 300 games. Don't. Yo. It ain't. It ain't gonna happen. But I'm glad I got an opportunity to see it. I'm glad I'm old enough to see some of the greats. I remember when Montana came into the league and got an opportunity to play when he was in the league and play with Elway and Marino and Steve Young and a lot of these quarterbacks. But to see Peyton and hey, I was in the league when he was my Pro bowl quarterback in 2001. Peyton Manning, Steve McNair. But it's always great to like, you have a greater appreciation when you see the. What the game was and where it is and how it progressed and to see the young guns come in. So it's always great.

[Justin Jefferson]

I'm glad you say that. I'm glad you just said that. And I talk about this all the time. I have a group chat with most of the Bengals players that played with me in that 2005 season. TJ Sean, Big Willie, Corey Dillon, Peter War. And we talk about where the game is today and how the game was when we played. And most of them take into consideration that the game was a little bit more difficult during our era and the era before us as opposed to how it is now. And today's era of football is they use the Word. For the mental lack of better terms. A little. A little watered down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Justin Jefferson]

I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it's not nearly as physical, Ocho. We know that and we understand. And the thing is, we understand why, Ocho. We understand the trauma, the head trauma, the repeated trauma, and they're trying to make the game as safe as they possibly can. And I think we all. We all want that. I know fans like this is. Put flags on them. But, guys, the league is not trying to get sued for billions and billions of dollars. You keep getting sued, you, your company goes bankrupt.

[Justin Jefferson]

This is this. This is what we need to say. We. This is what we need to say. We're trying to make the game safer, but on the backhand, we're just trying to make sure we can protect our. So we don't get sued 10 years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but everybody know. Yes, but you know that. Everybody knows that, but in the pro. Look, it's an inherently dangerous game.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's an inherently dangerous game. We're trying to make the game as safe as possible, but in the process of making it safer, the physicality. A lot of the physicality has been legislated out of the game. Yeah, I got no problem. I don't have a problem with it. I'm glad it wasn't there when I was there, because the kickoff like that. How am I going to show you what I forgot if I don't come down there and bust somebody?

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean. Oh, show that. Just standing still and let the guy catch the ball and then I take off. No, I need to get ahead of Steve and run down there and try to peel somebody's cap. I'm trying to split your dome. Okay.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah. Spit it down. You got me hyped, you know? You know, I used to be. I was the wedge buster my rookie year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't no wedge buster. You too little. You got. You ain't got enough bricks in your back pocket.

[Justin Jefferson]

Ask Marvin. If you see Marvin, I was the wedge buster, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. Because back then, you do realize they could have a four man. They could have a three and a four man wedge.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah. And they used to. They used to link arms.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You weren't a wedge buster.

[Justin Jefferson]

We played. We played the Ravens, right. My rookie year, we played the Ravens, right? I was the wedge buster. I went down and Adelais Thomas, remember a Dallas Thomas?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I know A.D. yeah, man, he.

[Justin Jefferson]

They had Adelaide's Thomas in the wedge, man. I ran right through him. I probably cracked his face mask.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're gonna have to. We're gonna have to find some footage of you busting being in the wedge.

[Justin Jefferson]

Hey, I can. I can get the footage for you at NFL Films.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you got. You have to get. You have to get that footage because that wedge I want. I wanted no parts of the wedge. Let me play by three. Let me get on down there and protect the numbers. Ain't nothing coming up. The numbers.

[Justin Jefferson]

I'm built different, huh? I was. I was a savage on the field. You. You weren't built like me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't got. You. You ain't got no bricks in your back pocket.

[Justin Jefferson]

It ain't about the bricks. I got this right here. I got this right here. Everybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you got this, Ocho? Why you think they took the wedge out?

[Justin Jefferson]

Because of me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because it didn't matter how much hard. If you. If think about it, you one man. Let's just say you 250 and they got a thousand pounds, right? What you gonna do with that?

[Justin Jefferson]

But see. Oh, you got to be. Listen, physics, baby, physics. If it's four men, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Justin Jefferson]

Out of the four. That's right there. There's always a weak link. You always pick on the weak link. If you getting jumped. If you getting jumped, you don't try to fight the swole dude. You pick on the weak link and you swing on his first.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Justin Jefferson]

Damn, they ain't got no pictures of my dog.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what he said. I don't know. I haven't been. I haven't been to the stadium since I played in it.

[Justin Jefferson]

I think I've been to the Panther stadium maybe once, but it should. For everything that he has done for that team, obviously getting him to a Super bowl, him being an MVP at one point as well. I'm not sure where he is statistically when it comes to the quarterbacks that have played for the Panthers organization. But for what he has done in the legend that he is, I mean, I would think he would have some type of memorabilia, pitchers, hell statue. I think he also belongs in the hall of Fame. I. I would think Cam is the hall of Fame quarterback as well. I'm not sure if there was any type of rift with him and the owner, whoever, obviously Dave Tepper. Dave Tepper is the owner. I'm not sure if there was any bad blood when Cam might have left, but to me, me personally, watching Cam and what he's done throughout his career. Chad, I don't know how you guys feel about it, but I think he should be remembered as a legend that he is and what he had done for that organization. Chat, what are your thoughts? Because Unc left, so it just be. It's just me and you guys right now. What you think should Cam, what Ring of Honor, name, name on the stadium. Maybe saying a statue outside that might be a little too much because he wasn't able to win, you know, win them a championship. But what Cam has done, his resume speaks for itself and how he galvanized that. That stadium, the kids, the fans, that community, hell, next team for that matter. What y'all think?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cam is one of the two best players. One of the three best players. Four best players. So if you like Smitty, you like Julius Peppers, you like Luke Kieckley, Cam Newton, Sam Mills. Those are your five best players. I don't care to rank them. You can rank them wherever you want to.

[Justin Jefferson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But those are your five best players. And you talk about a franchise that's 30 years of age. So therefore, I believe your five best players, they should always have a montage on somewhere. When you walk into the stadium, when you walk into the facility, those five players should be always present.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah. Yeah. And most definitely your quarterback. Most definitely. Most definitely your quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So.

[Justin Jefferson]

So, like I said, that's six players. You got McCaffrey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I just don't think he played long. Yeah, he's one of the best players. You put it.

[Justin Jefferson]

But you forgot Thomas Davis.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Julius Peppers. Yeah, he's in the hall of Fame. Luke Keakley is going to the hall of Fame.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steve Smith is going to be in the hall of Fame.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cam is Sam Mills. I think Sam Mills is in the Pro Football hall of Fame. Okay, so I believe those are your five best players, right. In Carolina football, in the, in the very short history of the Carolina Panthers. Now, you can rank them. You can say, Cam, is this one or Julius Peppers or Keighley or Smitty, whatever the case may be, because all those guys played it. You know, Keighley retired early because he, the trauma, he's like, no, I'm done with this. I want to be, you know, hey, I want to be a normal functioning human. As I start to get into my mid-30s, 40s, so forth and so on. We know what pep is. We know. We know what pep is. We know what Smitty was. But Cam kind of put him on the map, man. Yeah, yeah, Cam was him. Cam was him. Smitty. Look, Smitty, what he was. Smitty did when he injected alone. Yeah, they were cutting Smitty with that dude. Hey. Submitted with that dude? Yeah.

[Justin Jefferson]

Smitty with Nice name. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they did, they did a number, man. Hey, it. Like I said, I, I. Look, I don't know the history. I don't know what temper is. I don't know why. Hey, look, I remember when, when Josh McDaniels, when he went back to Denver, he took everything down. He took everybody, everybody, Anybody. All the past. My pictures. L. Wave TD all. He take all of it now in the facility? Yeah.

[Justin Jefferson]

What the hell?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We starting over. It's a new day. Bus stop. Get your ass up out of here. Somebody do date. We legends.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What the hell you talking about? Just cause you take the pictures down, they not gonna forget us.

[Justin Jefferson]

Nah, Never That. Never.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what you thought. Yeah. You gonna be. Hey, God, please.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what. I don't know what you thought I said, bro. Do you. Do you understand what John Elway means in that building? Do you understand what TD myself got. Hey, bro.

[Justin Jefferson]

Hold on. Not just in the building. Outside the building.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. And a lot of people. And a lot. And a lot of people will work that. That. That work with us in those super bowl eras. They were still there.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're like, what do you. What are you. What are you hoping to accomplish? That'll be like, somebody coming in and they taking down Gronk's pictures, they taking down Brady's pictures. Or you go to the Steelers and ain't no Bradshaw in the building. Ain't no Mean Joe, ain't no Franco, ain't no Ham. Lambert Male. What?

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Swans to come on, bro.

[Justin Jefferson]

Tripping, man. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Something interesting went viral today. The NFL. What if standing. If all of the one possession games were flipped, Cincinnati Bengals would be number one, they'd be eight and two. The Broncos also would be eight and two. The Jacksonville would be seven and three. Buffalo would be six and four. The Chargers would be seven and two. Baltimore would be six and four. Steelers five and four. So forth and so on. Dang. O.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why y'all can't win no one possession games, man.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah, man. That's what it comes down to. That's. That's what. That's. That's all it comes down to. Sometimes it comes down to one possession. And the funny thing about it, I think for those that I don't want to call those that are in the chat, casual fans.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know the Eagles did not lose to the Cleveland Browns. I'm talking about the Baltimore Ravens. King Henry. Guys, will y'all listen. Y'all. Y'all, too. I think y'all tune into some of these shows just so y'all can say, oh, you made a mistake, Ocho. That ain't what he said. Listen. Yeah, listen. Yeah, listen. Baltimore Ravens lost to the Cleveland Browns. Ocho and I talked about them not giving King Henry enough carries.

[Justin Jefferson]

He only had 11.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, no, he had 16. But he. He was averaging six yards a carry of what he averaged. He averaged like. He averaged like a. No, he had averaged four and a half yards of care.

[Justin Jefferson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm saying. Come on, guys. Damn. Listen.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yeah, listen. What school y'all went to. Hey, but. But the funny thing about it, you got to think how many. How many plays you run in the game, what, 60, 67 average is about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Somewhere between 60 and 65, give or take. You know, you get some penalties, they call to play Ocho, and it doesn't really count because you got a penalty. But somewhere 60 to 65, if you're really cooking, you might get as many as 70 to 75.

[Justin Jefferson]

Let's say 70, 75. If you're not cooking as much. 60 to 65. And the funny thing, out of all those plays, one to three of those plays make the difference in the game. Yes, one to three of those plays make a difference in the game. That's how important it is. That's how it comes down to that one possession making a difference and you actually having a winning, a winning record.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you notice Eagles had 70 plays, Washington has 63. You see 60 to 65, you cook a little bit, Ocho, you get many. 70, 75.

[Justin Jefferson]

Making the most of the opportunities.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What are you gonna say?

[Justin Jefferson]

No, I won't say. It all comes down to making the most of the opportunities, making the most of those plays that you do have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. And, and Ocho, it's a situation where when that play happens, because all plays aren't created equal, all penalties aren't created equal.

[Justin Jefferson]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You create a penalty and you got the ball and you back your team up, you create a penalty and you give a team a first down. When you're trying to get the ball back, that's different than you committing a penalty in the first quarter or the second quarter. So all plays are like. Well, any. No, no, no. All plays aren't created equal. Timing is everything. Area of the field. You get a penalty now, you put them in field goal range. That's the difference. And when you're not going to get an opportunity to get the ball back to do something about it. So all plays, you're absolutely right. It comes down to a handful of plays every game and the team that executes the best in those situations. And that's why what is look as bad as we as Patrick Mahomes. And Patrick Mahomes doesn't look like Patrick Mahomes. And what we mean by that, Ocho, we know at this point in time, he's normally in the top three. As far as touchdown passes. He's not there. Now I think he has 12 touchdowns, eight interceptions. That's not Patrick Mahomes. But in the one possession game, when he needs to be Patrick Mahomes that we all know and love, he's that guy every time.

[Justin Jefferson]

Let me, let me, let me, let me say One thing real quick. If we have any Eagles fans, I want you to understand how special young Bull is, man. Keon Mitchell, real quick. I just want to go from week one to week 11 who he's covered and the number of yards and catches each players had. Week 1 against the Packers. Keon Mitchell, whoever the number one receiver is, one reception, six yards. Drake London, one reception, five yards. Week 3, Chris Olave, two reception, 23 yards. Mike Evans, two receptions, 19 yards. Week 6, Amari Cooper, one reception, 10 yards. Week 7, Malik Neighbors, one reception, nine yards. My own Bengals own legendary Jamar Chase, two catches for 19 yards against the Jaguars. Whoever the number one is, had one catch for 11 yards. Week 10 against CD Lamb, two catches for 14 yards. Week 11, Terry McLaurin, zero receptions for zero yards. Keon Mitchell. Boy, if you see this boy, you're the real deal, boy. And you're lucky I'm not playing no more. But I salute you for what you're doing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Quinon.

[Justin Jefferson]

This is the legendary run for a rookie boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But yeah, he's, he's. He's playing really good for a guy. What is he, a rookie? Second year player?

[Justin Jefferson]

Man, he a rookie boy. Young boy, a rookie man. Hey, hey. When I see stuff like that, that make me want to get out there. That make me want to get out. I'm. Man, what you trying to do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, it makes me want to do get better at my job so I can have something to do right here. Right here.

[Justin Jefferson]

I feel you. But when you see somebody putting up them kind of numbers against some of the best today's game, I want to know what you're going to do against me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Uh, no. You had your turn. Let the billboards have it. It's raining out there. It's cold out there. Hitting out there. You ain't fall when the last time you fell on the ground?

[Justin Jefferson]

Yesterday. Yesterday. But see, listen, this, I'm. This. This how I feel when I see stuff like this, right? And I have an appreciation for superior DB play. This is superior DB play we witnessing from young bull, right? So I like, I'm thinking about myself in my prime, so I want to see how, you know, he would match up against me. So I just. I don't know. It's a hypothetical. It's just something that I always do. I insert myself in today's game, in today's era, just wondering how it would be if I was playing in this past happy era.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The volume. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite Moneyball, the Blind side and Liars Poker. On the latest season of my podcast, against the Rules, I'm exploring what it means to be a sports fan in America and what the rise of sports betting is doing to our teams, our states, and ourselves. Join me and listen to against the Rules on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search against the Rules. Listen to against the rules on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

[Justin Jefferson]

What's up, everybody?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's Peter Schrager.

[Justin Jefferson]

We're back for the season with Peter Schrager.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In each episode of the season, I'm gonna emphasize empty my proverbial notebook and.

[Justin Jefferson]

Take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're going to be at a bar, elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football, like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd.

[Justin Jefferson]

By the way, can I just point.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Out how much I like the music of this podcast? Incredible.

[Justin Jefferson]

Very good.

[Ocho Cinco]

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[Justin Jefferson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ocho Cinco]

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[Justin Jefferson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ocho Cinco]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ocho Cinco]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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