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Uncle Joe
Charles Barkley calls out people that complained that thunder were physical with Victor, we. Miyama. This is what Chuck said you people at home and TV talking about. They were physical women, man. Y' all need to stop. I've been kissed harder. There is no excessive files for people thinking that that's physicality. Y' all need to shut the hell up. Bp, what do you think of the way Hartenstein. Because he played a lot more and he would deal. He did. He was physical. I don't think it was excessive, but I think they could have called some fouls. What's your take on that?
BP
I like it, man. For real. You know, obviously when somebody comes in, you know what I'm saying? Stands on business, drops a big 40 and 20 ball like that, you got to have some pride about yourself. You got to have some, some, some nuts about yourself. And come on. And you know what I'm saying? Be a little more physical. Whatever it is. I like that the refs weren't calling all those ticky tack fouls. It is the Western Conference finals. We are three games, four games away from somebody winning this side and moving on to the NBA finals. So obviously all the little pulling the arm stuff I don't probably agree with. But being physical in a. In the game, I. I love that. I honor that for. For playoff hoops. I like the physicality. And then on top of that, it's a must win for us. So I'm giving it all I got, no matter what. Nobody say if I fat out this, I'm going out my way. You know what I'm saying? I'm out here full fledged because we down, we down 01. Ain't no way in hell we can go down O2 going into San Antonio. That's a whole different feeling. So right now I'm all in. I don't even care. You're gonna let me stop four, five times before I stop doing it.
Joe
Hello. Look, look. Hey. You know, bp, you guarding somebody like wimmy, bro. You gotta do your damn work early.
BP
Yes.
Joe
No. Hey, hey, hey. You ain't getting inside this damn three point line without a damn fight. You hear me? You know what I mean? Because a guy like that, you don't wanna let him catch it in his sweet spot. Cause you, man, I seen dude take one dribble and he already at the damn real like, you can't, you can't have that. You know what I mean? So I enjoy the physicality too, because I put myself in Hardenstein shoes. I'm like, if I were guarding them here I'm gonna be holding, grabbing, doing all type of Too.
Uncle Joe
But what we doing about the hair pulling, Bobby? Bp, what we doing about that hair pull they grab?
BP
I don't think you try to do that.
Uncle Joe
It doesn't matter. Question. Have you ever found somebody and didn't intend to do it? Is that how they base files on intent?
BP
Have I ever found somebody?
Uncle Joe
Not a common foul. Flagrant files is intent the wind up?
BP
I didn't got a couple. I didn't got a couple flavors in my. In my time.
Uncle Joe
I know, but have you found somebody and you didn't intend to file them?
BP
Nah, I know it's a foul.
Uncle Joe
Okay, so what you. Hold on. So why the hell you be complaining to the official like this here then if you knew it was a file?
BP
Nah, that's just like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? Nobody really think they foul, you know what I'm saying? But you know what I'm saying? Then, like, me, I can't. I can't just foul a. Just hard. And I got at least make it like. Hey, hey, hey. They gonna throw me so far out of there, I'm gonna be sitting in the back. I don't know already. Sound waiting. Everybody come now. I ain't trying to feel that, man. I'm cool.
Joe
Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, you know them repeat offenders, they, they cut.
Uncle Joe
They, they.
Joe
They watch out a little harder.
BP
We ain't got no lease, man. No, Lee, ain't no lease.
Uncle Joe
But you know what, bp? You know the, the spurs sent that in, all that little stuff that Hardenstein was doing that they got away with, you know that. Sent that to the league. Now what you think these officials gonna be looking for?
Ocho
They ain't gonna say nothing.
Uncle Joe
I bet you. I bet you they do. What you want to bet?
Ocho
Hey, hey, Uncle Joe, Uncle, Uncle Joe, you gotta understand, everybody on that court is at a disadvantage. And because Wimby is out there, the man is the alien. He's 75. Think about what he can do. Because of what he can do and the advantages he has on the court, the ref is going to hold the whistle a little.
Uncle Joe
I guarantee you he got.
Ocho
He got the play.
Uncle Joe
I bet you Wimby shoot at least. At bare minimum, Wimby shoot at least 10 free throws tomorrow.
Joe
Hey, hey, hey. I go even further, I go even farther to say, I bet you Hardenstein had two fouls in the first quarter. For damn sure I got him having two fouls. Cause, you know, you gotta be physical with him. And I just feel like in San Antonio since, you know, this has been the. The whole thing about, you know, the physicality. I feel like the refs are really, really going to be paying attention. And like Unc say, yeah, they really, they, they. I don't think they gonna hold that whistle too much tomorrow.
Ocho
But hold on, hold on, Uncle Joe. If you don't hold your whistle right, and every foul that happens to Wimby, that's gonna happen all game long, because it's the only way to even have a chance. But forget stopping him having a chance to even try and stop him. You gotta foul him. Cause you can't. You can't play ball just straight up.
Joe
I don't.
Uncle Joe
There was sometimes that. That he wasn't even looking at the rim. He was just turning and, and, and like he was an offensive lineman blocking. Wimy.
Joe
Yeah, you got. Hey, hey, hey. Sometimes you gotta play like that. BP know. Hey, look, if I can't get the rebound, I damn sure better not let my man get it. So I might face guard your ass. Go up. Yeah. Just push you up out of there. I understand it, man. I understand that. I like what OKC has done since Game 1, and that's been their adjustment. Look, we gonna have to be physical as hell. I ain't saying fouling, but bump him, give him shoulders, give him little forearm, give him that little chicken wing every now and then, you know, just.
Uncle Joe
Just.
Joe
Just to keep him off balance. Because if you let him roam free, Ocho and BP you see what he gonna do to you, man. You let him get to his spots comfortably, man, we're in trouble.
Uncle Joe
I guarantee, I guarantee you, he gonna shoot at least 10 free throws. They're gonna call a lot of that clutching. Not the physicality. The physicality is what it is. I think the unnecessary clutching. I think they're gonna call that. I think they're gonna call that tomorrow. You will find out early on, within the first two to three minutes of the ball game, Joe, we're gonna see how the game officiated. Yeah. That's going to tell you how they're going to call the game moving forward.
Joe
Yeah, yeah, that's how.
Ocho
That's how I'm doing, right?
BP
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Uncle Joe
All right.
Joe
Don't get me started. I got my homeboy on here, man. We'll jump your ass.
BP
Come on now, man.
Ocho
I beat Bobby, too. Bobby can't beat me. Bobby, I put your last, man.
BP
Stop it, man. I'm 260, man. 260.
Joe
Yeah. Yeah.
Ocho
To what?
BP
See that? You see that right there? You see that right there?
Ocho
You know what? I do with 260.
BP
You see that, Ocho, man? You see that right there, man? You see that right there, man?
Ocho
I'll do too, little man. Hey, Bobby, once I get you in space.
BP
No, no, no, no, no.
Joe
Hey, bp, he ain't got no handle like that. All you gotta do is play off. Give him a little room. His ass can't shoot neither.
BP
He probably jump high on his jumper, too. He won the jump high on they jump shot.
Uncle Joe
He's no, he ain't got no jump. Don't worry about it. He'll rebound. He ain't got no jump shot. Bp don't worry about that. He a rebounder.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah. They said I want to receive.
Joe
I want you what position football is
Uncle Joe
shooting the basketball or something entirely different. And shooting the basketball is something entirely different. There's a lot of guys that can shoot. But I guarantee if the quarterback were to drop back and throw.
BP
Hey, Ocho. Hey, Ocho, man. Who you gonna get a stop on? Who you gonna get a stop on on here, though? Can you get a stop?
Ocho
Listen, they call me the ISO stopper Bobby. They can give you the call in the low block. I bet you won't scope, man, we can run that.
Uncle Joe
Hey, bp.
Joe
Bp, don't worry.
BP
We can run that anytime. I fly out to y. Fly out to record it, we can
Uncle Joe
put it on your.
Joe
Don't worry. He got a ass whooping reserve right over here first. He. He already know it. Don't worry, I. Hey, I got something for him.
Ocho
Hey, matter of fact. Hey, you know. You know what's funny? Let me tell you. Let me tell you, right?
BP
Keep my hoop. I keep my hoop stool with me. See? I'm ready. Oh, yeah.
Ocho
I'm watching you. I'm watching. As a matter of fact, hold on, I'm going. Tell you what. I'm going to make it easy for y'. All. How about y' all both show up at the same time?
BP
What we doing today, Osho?
Uncle Joe
I'm.
Ocho
I'm gonna run. I'm gonna run with him to 11. I'm run with you, right?
Joe
I'm gonna tell you, you ain't even gonna score against me. I'm gonna keep it real. I already told you.
Ocho
Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, you know what? You know, Mama. Dear God, forgive me, man, you got me up.
BP
Let me see how your form is. Let me see.
Ocho
Let me see.
BP
Let me see. Let me see.
Ocho
Hey, I ain't gay, but watch the wrist break.
BP
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uncle Joe
That thing shot at the bp? Yeah.
BP
Hey, he ain't Got no full extension on that, Joe. That.
Ocho
Hey, you can't.
BP
You can't.
Uncle Joe
You.
Joe
Hey, hey. You don't get that elbow up, man. You gotta get that elbow up above that.
Uncle Joe
He shooting on the poppy shot. He shooting on the poppy shot. Y' all come on now. BP Joe, he got a little poppy shot.
BP
Go.
Uncle Joe
He can't get.
BP
He can't do it like that. That right there ain't nothing.
Uncle Joe
You gotta get that thing in the
BP
air a little bit more.
Ocho
Man, my kids and lost my damn basketball.
Uncle Joe
I don't know if you guys. I'm sure you. You guys did, but if you. When you had. Did you have to guard Wimby, So what. What. What was your strategy to having to guard with me? Obviously, you don't want him to get the ball where he wants to get it, so you try to be as physical as you possibly can with him. What's your strategy in dealing with Wimby?
BP
I play against Wimby three times so far. I think a couple of times. Yeah, he was out for injury and things because I'm on the. I'm on the east coast, so. East coast team play west coast teams twice. Home and away, right? I think our strategy, bro, was, you know what I'm saying? Just do your work early, like Joe say, bro. Do your work early with a tall seven fold guy like that. Anything. Obviously, if he rolled into the realm, you probably want a high tag, you know what I'm saying? Weak side. If you don't get no hot tag on him, it's just. It's either a lot for him or Castle and Fox and Harper actually do a hell of a job with hitting that midi in the middle too. Push out midi like that's like a great shot for them because the BA got to play back in the drop and then they got the live threat right there. And if we get a little hit like now, they got downhill right to the midi elbow action. So it makes it tough. It's just not him that makes it hard. Like, him rolling kind of opens up everything else, you know what I'm saying? It kind of unlocks the offense. It unlocks the. The backside threes for Champagne. Champagne should. Hey, get them boys a hug, man. For real. Like, they. They got that boy real name out here off them backside threes. And him being able to hold that follow through and knock down timely. Timely fashion. So it get tough in that pick and roll with him. For sure. I would say doing your work early and then like I said, him being able to roll to that Realm just unlock. So much for the offense.
Joe
Hey, look, I. I agree with BP saying. See that back, man. If. If. If I'm that man in that strong corner and they running the pick and roll on my side, my man has to tag. If it's wimy rolling, he has a tag, hell. Cause if you ain't that a tag, he throwing it to the rim. That man barely jumping, bro. It's on your head. You know what I mean? Like, BP say champion is sitting over there. I'm talking about Eden eating. You hear me? I'm talking about big boy. He's sitting over there buffet style, you know?
BP
Hey, bro, just be ready to shoot every time anytime the ball come to. Champagne in hand. Watching tomorrow, as soon as it come in his hand, lock and load it. I'm getting right up under it.
Joe
Cash.
BP
Cash getting right up under it.
Uncle Joe
Also for sale. They be getting a lot of good. They've been getting a lot of great look at threes because. Yeah, what choice do you have? I mean, you ain't got no choice.
BP
Like you say, like we said in the. In the. In the. In the Knick series, you got to find somebody here to beat you. Like. Yeah, you don't want women to beat you. Just rolling to the rim and they playing two on one every time in the pick and roll because a guard getting hit, he ain't fight over. Remy just got a little bit of. Of fast, bro. Because sometimes women, he speed roll. Like, he might just touch and go. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, like, he might get up. He. He might get up under the screen, touch and roll to the rim and getting one. So it gets tricky, bro, because that is. That low man in the. The low man in NBA damn near the most important guy, bro. Oh, yeah, he the most important guy. That low man, he control everything, man. He. He can. He can see what's going on. He can help the tag, man. He could tell hot man X out backside. He go get the. The slot, man. Like, it just gets tricky when. When you got a real good rim rim live threat out there, bro.
Joe
Hey, hey, more tricky is if you got guards like Fox, Harper, and Castle, because you know, you can't trap them guys. You know what I mean? Like, BP say the. The big gonna have to be below Wimby. So I got floaters all day damn long, you know what I mean? And those guys are great in the midi area. They great and getting in the teeth of the defense and spraying out for threes. This is. This is why San Antonio is so good, bro. Wimby just draws so much attention that, hell, it helps out all these other guys, and they don't even show up on the stat sheet.
Uncle Joe
Man, I watch Wimby. Wendy ain't fair, man. I watched women lay the ball up on the right side. It missed the layup, and he dunked the backhand like this here on the left side. I'm like, how the hell. What the hell is that?
Joe
Hey, you look at a lot of them live dunks. He get BPB because of that damn low, man. He's so damn little that by the time harping them get in the paint, all they got to do, even if you there, just throw it up there. And hell, he just get that big
BP
door right there, drop it in. And then he didn't run back like irregular.
Ocho
Hey, hey, hey. Matter of fact, you know. You know what this. I'm curious, bp. You've seen. You've seen two games so far with the spurs and Thunder playing. Obviously the series is tied. Tied one one. Who you. Who you got in this series probably to come out. I know, I know it's going seven, but who you got?
BP
It depends on. It's not a fair analysis without knowing who's available on the injury report. For real. My. In my opinion, right. That the injury report going to dictate a lot in this series. If the spurs don't got Harper and Fox, it can get sideways real fast. Yeah, if they got one, just one of them, I can see him still fighting. And it'd be a good game going seven, whatever it is. But they need one of those guys like okc, they can play without Jalen Williams, you know what I'm saying? Like, they sold and they've earned that right for people to believe in them without Jalen Williams, you know I'm saying they started the year off 24:1 or something without Jalen Williams, you know what I'm saying? They won this last playoff series, swept Brian without Jalen Williams. You know what I'm saying? Like so, right. It all depends on who healthy for the Spurs. Like, I'm not really worried about Jalen Williams being out for the Thunder, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, if they go Harper and. Yeah, like, if Harper and Fox out, it can get. It can get tricky for okc. I mean, for. For the spurs. For real.
Uncle Joe
You still got caruso, you got A.J. mitchell, you got Case and Wallace, you got Isaiah, Joe, you got Lou Dork, McCain, Lou Dort. Yeah, yeah. So you got so many other guys at that position. Now, if I'm out, Fox Harper was his back. Was his back with placement. Now I'm without Fox and Harper.
BP
It's tough. Like, now you gotta sub, man. I wanna like. Like I say, April, like we said earlier. Hey, one of them guys been in that lab hoping they can get their shots up.
Ocho
Yeah.
BP
It's that time. Hey, bro. Hey, bro. Hey, bro. You ready?
Joe
Yeah.
Shaq
Yeah.
BP
Hey, it's y'. All Time to time now. Like, for real, like, I. I sure
Uncle Joe
hope they don't put me. I'll show hope by my lab work. Don't have to get shown at the Western Conference final. Can I get me a couple of regular season games first? Oo. I ain't really my first start. I ain't wanted to come in championship game.
Joe
Hey, hey, listen, you can't. Hey, you can't complain about damn minutes when. When they come, your ass be ready.
BP
Yeah. Yeah. My first playoff start came in the Eastern Conference finals.
Uncle Joe
Damn.
BP
My first. My first playoff start came in Eastern Conference finals. Championship year. Giannis had went down with a hyperextending knee in Atlanta. Gang 4, game 5. Coach Bud come to me, say, hey, man, I need you to start. I said, hey, man, I've been waiting this my whole life.
Joe
Yeah.
BP
I wasn't just my whole life. I popped out 25 with a dub.
Joe
Yeah. Yeah.
BP
Hey, he just gotta be. You just gotta be ready, bro.
Joe
Yeah. All times, bro. That's part of being a pro.
Uncle Joe
That is. That is. It's gonna be a very interesting game, you know, a game three.
BP
What you doing, bro?
Uncle Joe
What you doing right now? You getting ready?
Ocho
Oh, that's my list.
BP
No, no, no, you gotta. That ain't gonna work. No.
Ocho
I mean, I'm hit you. I mean.
BP
No, no, no. Ain't nobody getting Euro stepped in once. Hey, man, I wish I was somebody get Euro stepped in one. That's great.
Ocho
I mean. I mean, that's how good I am. I'm gonna Euro step your ass in one.
Uncle Joe
Damn. Damn, B.P.
Joe
hey, B.P. you ain't got nothing to worry about.
Ocho
Hey, hey. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. BP Think is. Hey, BP Think this is the joke
BP
and this is funny to me.
Joe
Yeah. Yeah. It's okay. Yeah, it's funny to me, too.
Ocho
We're gonna see. Who lady, we're gonna see. Hey, we're gonna see.
BP
I'm get your number out of this, man.
Ocho
My number eight.
BP
Y' all need to put this on. Y' all need to put this on y'.
Uncle Joe
All.
BP
Nightcap, nightcap. Hoop session, man.
Joe
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
BP
Then we pull up. We pull up. Do something, man.
Joe
Damn.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, you try to pull up. You try. You trying to get that, that get out. Because Joe say ain't gonna be much left when he get done with him. So.
Joe
Hey, that man go, hey, that boy took enough of a beating.
BP
That's enough. That's enough.
Joe
Take care of my money and aborted. Take a double for beat.
Uncle Joe
Bp. I'm. I'm sorry, bro, but you know, we got to talk about this. Come on, let's talk about this is what Pat Bam said. Pat Bell spoke about it today, saying a damn snitch. I played for Milwaukee Bucks. I've never seen Giannis Antokounmpo late. One time I played for LA Clippers with Doc. For the Bucks. With Doc. He was a player in the past and he's very lenient when it comes to practicing. You don't hear people complaining when they get days off. So for him to get on a platform and discuss everybody knows Shaq, but
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Uncle Joe
players Especially coming from a team where expected a lot more from Miles Turner is an issue. You played with Bud Adrian Griffin. Now you played with Doc. You played a couple of other different places the the environment in Milwaukee. Underdog how different was it with Bud? How different was it with Adrian Griffin? What was expected? How was it?
BP
I mean for real. It's a tough job to have for real. You feel me? When I first got here in Milwaukee, you know, we were a championship team with championship pedigree with you know, views of winning the championship. My first year on the team, we ended up winning the chip, you know what I'm saying? Coach Bud get fired. A couple, A couple, you know what I'm saying? Years later, you know what I'm saying? Coach Bud was just a different coach. He's real strict. He wanted like a players coach. He wanted coach that let the players, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying, do certain things. He was like a dictator. He wanted to do everything he wanted. He wanted to like, be control of everything. He was a control freak. But it worked for him and it worked for us at the time, so it was cool, you know what I'm saying? But you still got guys in your team. That's you know what I'm saying, of caliber, who they is, they kind of want to like, open up and be more such and such, you know what I'm saying? We get Adrian Griffin. He was there for a couple months. He's still, he seems still a great guy. Shout out Adrian Griffin. And then you get Doc River. He's just a super player coach, bro. Like super player coach always about the players, what the players want. And he's super lenient on super on certain things. Obviously when, when Miles and Brianna Stewart their podcast when shared, shared and aired online. If you ain't see my tweet, I tweeted like, hey, bro, is. Is this AI, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, that was hey, like, you know what I'm saying? Because I, I don't know what to believe no more, uncle, for real. Cause you know, it got. It got so much
Uncle Joe
business behind closed doors in a public forum, you know what I'm saying?
BP
I didn't, I didn't believe that, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, damn, like, for real. So I've been on the team for six years, bro, and you know what I'm saying? I ain't never seen him, you know what I'm saying? Late to anything, obviously. Superstar players, you play any, any professional sport, you know what I'm saying? Superstar players get kind of superstar treatment, you know what I'm saying? I'm not here to take up for Yanas or whatever it is, but you know what I'm saying, after the game, if my man Is. Is 40 minutes, 50 minutes late, it's because God damn. See, I didn't got his body slammed out there on the court. See, I didn't. I. I got, I got 30 a threw me on the ground. I Didn't. I didn't. Got five, six times, hit the flow 18 times. I gotta get my. After the game live, get treatment, got media. So, like, I don't really understand the oh, yo, we, we, we late or whatever it is. I never understood that. But at the same time, I do. I do feel like as a leader of a team who've been here for a minute, who've been here for six years, like, I had to clear that part up, bro. Like, yeah, like, when it's. I think it's kind of out of context when a. Like, oh, yeah, late. It might have been like, oh, yeah, like after the game, or, you know, I'm saying getting treatment after the game. Like, just clear that up. Like, might be late after the game because, you know what I'm saying, the bus, the bus took off, they met the plane or whatever it is because somebody was getting treatment. Everybody getting treatment, like, whatever it is. But it wasn't nothing like our culture messed up or like we over here just running over Doc Rivers or something. I don't. I wouldn't put it in that aspect at all.
Uncle Joe
But what he said is that we're scheduled to take off from a flight and the flight might be scheduled to leave at 2:32. He said guys were showing up an hour late, maybe two hours late. He didn't mention anything after the plate. Now, hey, I ain't trying to stir up nothing.
BP
Hey, man, weekend.
Uncle Joe
What did he get? Okay, clear this up. What did he get wrong? Because Pat Bell said he played with Milwaukee and Giannis was never late. So this man just came out and did he lie? If he lied, just say, hey, man, he lied.
BP
Yeah, I think. I think he just kind of got carried away. I think it's kind of got carried away. Obviously, you got a podcast now and, you know, just, you know, saying, sitting here, chatting sometime. For real. For real. Unes, zoom calls and things like that. Like, you kind of forget that it's live. You kind of forget, you know what I'm saying? Like, you kind of forget that it's gonna get posted online. You kind of forget all that. You kind of get lost in the conversation. You get lost in doing things. And you know what I'm saying? As a human being, I'm a capper. Like, I'm. I'm an over exaggerator too. Like, I ain't gonna sit here and allow nobody or something, but if I'm talking to my homeboy, my friend or something, I might just get him hyped up or something. Juice, the story of a little bit more like. Yeah, but like I'm, I'm here just to say like, nah, bro, like as a leader of the team who've been here six years, who pride myself on respect, who pride myself on winning, building habits, all that, man, I don't. It wasn't nothing like that. It was if anything if, if big brother late, I ain't here to take up like I said, but brother is from out the game getting treatment because I didn't went to war tonight, you feel me? Like that's, that's probably the only time somebody wait on somebody for real.
Uncle Joe
What about the meetings? He say meetings got film session, guys come late sometimes they wouldn't come.
BP
Hey, hey, I'm getting to shoot for real shoe. You know, I might, I might skip me a treatment session and we in Utah, we got LA tonight. We're going to la. I probably on God stands to stand out there late, you know what I'm saying? I probably don't God stand out there late, you know what I'm saying? Treatment in every time where it is. I might, I might, I might, I might say, hey now I don't, I don't need no ice today. Go get me in the shower, man. We got LA going to LA for a couple days.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
BP
You know what I'm saying?
Joe
But yeah, hey, hey, I think even, even listening to bp, you saying Doc Rivers is a players coach. Doc used to coach a veteran guy. So I can see how he's lenient like that coaching that Boston Celtics team. Because when you got. The thing is when your top guys hold each other accountable, bro, the coach ain't really got to do a whole hell of a lot, you know what I mean? And I think Doc has been put in those situations, especially dealing with that Boston team with kg, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. Hell, everybody else just kind of fell in line. Cause those guys were, you know, real true leaders and obviously ended up being tough though.
BP
It's just tough though. You gotta think about it too though. Big bros like we in Milwaukee and we got championship aspirations, like, you know what I'm saying? So like it's the littlest thing that we do gonna get, you know what I'm saying, exaggerated. Because everybody trying to get Yanis to leave, you know, you like everybody trying to start a state of narrative up, like that's just what it is. So like any little thing, any little five game losing streak, like that's been like the narrative for like five years. So I kind of just get it and I kind of just Take it with a grain of salt, for real. Like, ain't nothing wrong with the culture and none of that. I ain't here to dissect team team drama. Like somebody said online, I call it how I see it. We got a cool ass team with a full, with 18 guys who mess with each other. We just didn't have a good year this year. That's all it was.
Uncle Joe
Let me ask you this, considering what was said, how does, how do you guys. If he's back on the team now, you don't know What? I don't know if you talked to Giannis. I don't know.
BP
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
And Jimmy Haslam, who owns half of the team, a large chunk of the team, says, look, either he signs the extension or he's going to get traded. Now, with that being said, you back in that locker room.
BP
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Miles Turner comes back, hey, Hey, BP, because like you said, you've been there six years. I think you've been in the league, what, 11 years now, BP, 11 years, bro.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
So you, you know certain things because, hey, the worst thing if dude be talking and they be talking to their girlfriend, their wife, and they be pillow talking. And again, hey,
BP
yeah, man, I would say like this, like, especially if you're on a team that didn't make the playoffs, I think right now, in this, in this period while the season's still going on, while guys about to start ramping their workouts back up, start trending towards their next season, I think it's just super important right now that you kind of just focus on your craft, your body and your mind. All the extra stuff that's going on, you can't control as a pro, you gotta control the controllables. That's your work ethic, that's you being a pro every day. And as you having the right attitude towards what's going on, obviously right now, I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know if Yanni gonna be on the team. I don't know if I'm gonna be on the team. I don't know who gonna be here. But one thing I'm gonna do each and every year is prepare myself for whatever is to come. So when that time, when that time comes and we are in the locker room again, whatever it is, it shouldn't be no bad blood. Whatever it is, I'm here to fight, I'm here to win, I'm here to do my job.
Uncle Joe
You got to have a conversational bp, you got to say, hey, bro, bro, look, I understand we get carried away. I get it, because we get carried away, cuz.
BP
But you put.
Uncle Joe
You put everybody in a bad spot.
BP
Yeah, for sure, though. Definitely.
Uncle Joe
He put everybody in a bad spot.
BP
Definitely did. I didn't. I didn't like that. It was a lot of media out. Like. Like, my mom and one of my best friends had sent it to me, like, around, like, three. 3:30pm Central Time, bro. And at the time, I looked at it and I said. I'm like, damn. Like, all right, cool. Like. But then I kept going back and looking at it. You know, something like, damn. Like, that is kind of bad, but I ain't think that was gonna blow up like it blew up, boy.
Uncle Joe
He said Giannis was coming an hour, two hours late. What you mean? Bp.
BP
But I didn't think it was gonna go like, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, God damn, that crazy. Like, that went crazy, bro.
Joe
Yeah.
BP
And then, like, it kind of put. Then it kind of put everybody, like, we ain't being leaders, like, we ain't doing all this extra. But it ain't even like that for real. It just got kind of took out of context. Like, you can ask like, bro, literally, we have the same seven people at our airport that want us to sign things. Literally, we have the same. Same seven people. Like, some. Some teams might have 30 people or 40 people, but you know what I'm saying? We got these same dedicated seven people that come want us to sign some every time we take off.
Joe
Oh, yeah, it's gonna be.
BP
Somebody need to call one of them people right now and ask them who later. They gonna say, nobody will leave ever, bro. Hey, hey.
Uncle Joe
They want Giannis to stay. Go ahead, Joe. What you want to say?
Joe
It's gonna. It's gonna be a damn team meeting when we link back up.
Uncle Joe
I don't know. I would die, y', all, you know, good. Somebody time that out like that. But I don't want no more damage to be done. Just because I had one accident don't mean I'm gonna cancel my insurance. Well, once.
Ocho
Once you snitch, you already snitch.
Uncle Joe
You already stained.
Joe
Ain't talk about they media team. I ain't necessarily just saying, like, the players, but that media team is probably gonna have some one on ones or a team or collectively a team unit. Sit down and be like, hey, look, we gotta watch what we say. Look, I think because of how media is evolving, and, you know, you got guys with their own podcast now who are currently still playing. Yeah, I think it kind of it kind of sways, you know, information, meaning, like, you know, like, I felt like that was too much damn information to give up, bro. It's just certain things. Certain things you just take with you. However y' all deal with it. Y' all deal with it. But you never go on no podcast and say how your infrastructure is working.
Ocho
Hey, hey, Joe, Unc, bp. There's an unwritten rule in sports. There's an unwritten rule. Nobody has to tell you about that goddamn rule. Yeah, there's certain things you don't discuss. There's certain things you don't talk about that happens inside locker rooms or structured environments. Nobody has to explain that to you, Uncle. I got a bunch of goddamn stories. We've been on here three years. I have yet to talk about anybody on this goddamn show about anything that went on.
Uncle Joe
But we also know, Ocho. We know who will talk. And guess what? Hey, what y' all talking about?
BP
Go.
Uncle Joe
We ain't talking about nothing in front of your punk ass. Cause we already know that's what we talking about. Hey, right, every. Hey, look, we've all been in enough locker room. We played enough, be it high school, college, pro, NBA, NFL. We know. We know what guys will talk. Because guess what? It might not be a situation where they go public. It might be a situation what they go talk to it. Now, you know, when it comes to them, you don't cover them things. They're show dime out by that.
Joe
Oh, man. Come on, now.
Uncle Joe
Oh, oh, oh. So you. Oh, you. Oh, you. Oh, you see, old boy? Huh? Who told you that? Yeah, so you ain't got to tell me nothing. So I already know. Yes. We're gonna have to have a conversation. I ain't gonna lie to you whether you having a conversation or not. But I'm saying if I was in the locker room in something like that. Of that magnitude.
BP
But it's hard. It's hard for us right now to have a conversation when, like, the future just so blurry. Yeah, like, the future is so blurry right now that, like, right now, like I said, like before, like, guys need to worry about themselves being the best they can be, coming back and trying to narrative about whatever, you know what I'm saying? The media has put on them or the team, whatever it is. Because right now, bro, like. Like you said, bro, like you just said, like, the owner said that by June, the draft, whatever it is, they gonna do something with Yanis, whatever it is. So that's like. Yeah, so, like, the future blurry so we can't really have them conversations until we know who on the team for real, you know what I'm saying? Like.
Uncle Joe
Like.
BP
Like right now, it's mono. E. Mono. For real. Like, you could talk to somebody like. Like. You know what I'm saying? Like, see, right now, you need to be trying to get in the gym. Stay ready, stay sharp. Yeah, yeah, really, like, after the season over with, like, you want to have those conversations and dialect, like. And dialogue. Like, I talked to all my guys. I was just with GT last week. You know what I'm saying? I hang out with all my teammates and talk to them, whatever it is. But, yeah, that one kind of just stung a little bit. So I'm. I'm gonna give it a few.
Uncle Joe
But I was. I'm. I'm just. Oh, I was like, boy, I already knew when I saw this. I said it. I said it to Ash. I said, ash, look, I said, boy, this here about the. This here about to shock the conscience of the NBA.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
I said, it's not what he said, it's what if he said, oh, there are a lot of people late. People could have deduced whatever they wanted. Nobody would have ever assumed it was Giannis. The mere fact that. The mere fact that he's like, well, when she asked, who's some of your worst offenders? They didn't put the hot light on him. They didn't waterboard him. They didn't beat him with the telephone book. They didn't put. No, they didn't do none of that. Oh, Yanis. Oh, y' all be late for about an hour. You gotta make him extract some information out of. You can't just give it all up.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
In the military, they say when you get captured behind enemy lines is name, rank, serial number, number. That's all you give them.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
What's your name? What's your rank? Give me your serial number, man. He done told him playing. Hey, look at. Check this out. They're gonna hit y' all tomorrow about 4 o'.
Ocho
Clock.
Joe
Yeah. Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Wow. Damn. Make them extract that information. Pull a couple of teeth. Shot me.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Ass some. Look, the thing is, like, we're live. If you say something on here, even if you say, man, hey, take that. I can't. We can't take it out because somebody already. If you go right now, bp, somebody has already taken clips of what you, I, Joe and Ocho have said and already got it up on their stuff.
BP
Yep.
Uncle Joe
So we can't take it out now. There are times that you do stuff that's not Live, we could like, hey, man, can you do me a favor? When I said such and such, can you take that out? No problem. But when you go live, it ain't no editing, it ain't no takeout, ain't
BP
no do over, yeah, watch what you say type thing
Joe
and bp, I, I think the reason why it went viral is because the guys who aren't in you guys locker room, meaning fans, guys like ourselves who don't get to see y' all on day to day basis, and the work that y' all put in, the fact that he spoke about Giannis, it's like everybody look at Giannis as like the hardest worker, you know what I mean? Like, he don't take me for a guy who gonna show up late, who gonna half ass you, who gonna BS you, you know what I mean? Like, you got Doc. You got Doc Rivers in this position and you mean to tell me Giannis ain't gonna show up and give him everything he got? So that's why I think it went viral, because it was Giannis and how we view him, you know what I'm saying?
Uncle Joe
Yes.
Joe
View him as no guy who would be late or half assing in the weight room or things of that sort. So that's why it was shocking to me. I ain't gonna lie. I'm like, damn, hold on. I don't expect that from Giannis, right?
BP
Nah, man, Nah, man, nah. It wasn't nothing like that, y'. All. That's the hardest working I've been around. For real? For real? No, no, for real, for real. That live before the game. He lived way before the game. Anybody said he'd be on the ground doing all type of crunches and sit ups and before the game shall be like, bro, you tripping, boy. Sit right next to him. You know what I'm saying? I mean, he been my locket mate for six years. I sit right next to him. And Stu, so like, he the hardest worker sometimes, you know what I'm saying? Doc Rivers, he just, he just a real linear coach. He a player's coach. I, with Doc Rivers, like, super on a, on a personal level, like, I, I really love that, man. He. He a good dude, got a good heart. But you know what I'm saying, sometimes in film or whatever, it is clear that part of. Sometimes in film, if you heard it, whatever it is, doctor, you go over there and get treatment. Sometimes in practice, if you hurt and you ain't playing, go over there and get treatment, you know what I'm saying? Or whatever it is go get your work in. You know what I'm saying? Go to the weight room. Go get some, go get some, some, some work in whatever it is. So like I said, I was totally throwing off. I thought it was AI, man. You can go to my tweet. I thought that was AI ain't that was real.
Joe
Hey, listen, I'm, I'm the same way fellas. It's like you give me a good players coach and account the accountability that I'm holding myself to, you know, to show up for him, you know, make sure I'm ready to play. Ain't gonna be BSing. That's, that's, that's how I was when I played, bro. Like, those are some of the best coaches but everybody can't play for coaches like that.
BP
Yeah, I love that, man.
Uncle Joe
Everybody is not mature enough to be responsible enough to handle it like that.
BP
Yeah, because.
Uncle Joe
And my thing is don't you mess it up for everybody else else because you know how it is. One person messing up. Not we all got to come, we all got to do this, we all got to do that because what's the thing? We're a team. Nah, he effed up. Make him run beside that. No, no, no, no. Don't, don't, don't do be all and so that was my, that was my thing when I played bp. We gonna get you out here on this 1. The Lakers LeBron James on his podcast Mind the Game. I think that's the name of it. Mind the game with.
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Uncle Joe
she said we were not outworked. They did not out physical us us. They did not outsmart us. I feel like we were out talented by okc. They just possessed more talent. At the end of the day we failed in the talent. You can't you can tip your cap to them and understanding that. LeBron also spoke about his future in LA. I'm still in the moment of just taking my time I haven't really even thought about it much. Obviously I understand that I'm a free agent and I can control my own destiny about being here with this franchise for the foreseeable future or if going somewhere else. But I haven't really given. Haven't gotten to the point. I haven't even taken my family vacation yet, which is going to happen after Memorial Day. That's kind of the thing that's in the front, front of my mind. But I think at some point in June, late June, as July rolls and free agency starts to get going and July maybe rolls into August, we're kind of starting to get a feel of what my future may look like. Like, BP, where do you think LeBron is playing next season? Or do you think he's playing at all?
Joe
Yeah, yeah. Look, Jake,
BP
leave line.
Uncle Joe
This is for you.
BP
This is for you.
Joe
Hold on. Bp, he gonna leave Brody, he gonna bring Brandon with him.
BP
Packing him with me.
Joe
Okay.
Uncle Joe
Bringing in with me.
Joe
Okay.
Ocho
At the crib.
Joe
Yeah, yeah.
BP
Hey, all, all books got good endings. Got storybook in this, man. I feel like this is. This would be perfect, man. You know what I'm saying? Go, go to Cleveland. They still got a nice team. Got Donovan Mitchell who can still get off James Harden. You got Evan Mobley down low. So I don't know they salary cap or if they can, whatever it is, but I'm pretty sure that they can sign and trade somebody or something. Right? Some type of sign and trade scenario can happen.
Joe
Hold on, BP, the man just building a 60 million dollar house in, in Brentwood.
BP
Yeah, I'll be back. I'll be back. We all gotta, we all gotta creel somewhere else or something like, you know, we all, we all got houses. You know what I'm saying? Somewhere else or whatever it is. But I'll be back over there.
Joe
Yeah, it ain't there being built yet.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see. Look, do I believe LeBron has at least thought about it? Absolutely. Yeah, he has. He has. Because he hadn't been in this situation in a very long time. The last year of his contract track, no option to pick up anything like that. The last time that happened, that was in Cleveland. He was on the move. How long ago? That's being. He's been in the LA for eight years. Other than prior to that, he's always had the option. He opted out of the option and then they resigned. They signed another two or three or two plus an option or one plus one or two plus one. So do I believe he's at least thought about it. Absolutely. Absolutely.
BP
I just dropped the box, man. Bob bombs, man. That's called a Bob bomb, man. Y' all gonna reclip this in about two, three months. Y' all gonna reclip this. Y' all reclip this, man. Put me back on there, man. Give me some little love. Tag me. Just tag me. Just tag me at. Before this time. Just tag me, man.
Joe
Just tell me, man. I don't know, fellas. I mean, D.P. that sound good. I ain't gonna lie to you. But it's just hard for me to see him leaving la, where they got probably the second most cap space. Obviously.
Uncle Joe
They got second most of that, Joe.
BP
Huh?
Uncle Joe
Ar gonna eat up a lot of that.
Joe
Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, Joe.
Ocho
What's the. What's the point of staying there, though, Joe? Think about that, man. What is he going. He going in the year 20. He going in the year 24. Is he going in the year 24 just to play basketball, or is he going to year 24 trying to win the championship? Why the hell would he want to stand?
Joe
Well, they got. I think they got to make some changes to the roster. I don't think he signed back with the Lakers until they really make some changes, you know? But it's gonna be. It's gonna be some other teams who gonna be flirting with him, trying to.
BP
Hey, so question, bro. So question. So, like, LeBron, like, he just a straight up free agent this summer?
Uncle Joe
Yes.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Yeah.
BP
So question, like, in free agency with the Lakers, are they gonna wait on. Are they gonna wait on him to make a decision, though? Like with the money, with the couch spaces?
Uncle Joe
No.
Joe
No, I don't think so.
BP
So, like, that's. That's the first domino right there then.
Uncle Joe
Yep.
BP
Domino coming up soon. In about a month, about five, six weeks.
Joe
Bp, you know, you heard Luca, he said, you know, he. He don't want to trade ar for no other superstar, so he won't ar to come back. I think. I think what you have is if you give ar max contract, what's that at? About 250?
Uncle Joe
Yep.
Joe
And he gonna eat up. He gonna eat up so much of the cap here. Who can you bring rui back? You ain't gonna be able to bring RUY back.
Uncle Joe
Might not even. Because if D, D A is A has a player option. Marcus Smart has a player option. Canard is an unrestricted free agent. LeBron is an unrestricted free agent. They need. They need. They need a lot. They need 3 and D. Their problem is they cannot defend as Great. As. As many points as Luke and ar. Let's just say for the sake of argument, they give you 56, they're going to give up 46.
Joe
You got.
Uncle Joe
Hey, you got to bring back court in basketball. Let's not sugarcoat it. I don't want you to comment on that. But I'm just saying, Joe Ocho and I, we know they're the best, worst defending backcourt in basketball. Now, they only really got one guy that can defend on the perimeter.
Joe
Smart.
Uncle Joe
That's their problem. Marcus Martin.
Joe
You got to bring him back. Got to. You got to bring smart back. Oh, I don't care.
Uncle Joe
They got no choice. Yeah, they got nobody that can defend.
BP
What price, though? For what price? For what price, though?
Joe
I don't know. He probably gonna want him with a nice little three year deal.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, and. And if they don't give it to me, I. I've shown that I'm still a valuable commodity on the defensive end. I'll give you a couple of points. I get 10 12, but my work worth. I take charges. I defend at an elite level. I can rebound the basketball. Now, if y' all think, look, I proved myself. I've proven that I still play at a level. Now I want to be compensated for that.
Joe
Yeah, he. He changes the trajectory of a game when he comes in just by bringing that junkyard dog mentality, you know what I mean? Willing to defend, willing to do the dirty work that a lot of guys ain't willing to do. Bro, they. They'll pay for that there.
Uncle Joe
Yes. And. And you see how valuable defenders are. Look at okc. Look at the Spurs. Now they're young. Marcus Martin is probably 32. What? I don't know. I don't know what he is. BP 32, 33. He probably. He might be your age, a couple of years older than you.
BP
32. He one year older than me. He one year older than me.
Uncle Joe
Okay, so 30, 32, 33. Yeah, they've got. They got some decisions to make. Because guess what? Even you bring Luca back, even though you bring AR back, you still not better than San Antonio. You're still not better than okc, and you're still not better than the Nuggets. So even with that back, guess where you are. You're still the 4 seed. That's if everything changes, right?
BP
They ain't better than the Rockets.
Uncle Joe
They the fourth seed. Rocket for the fifth seed.
BP
They beat the Rockets this year, though.
Uncle Joe
But let me ask you a question.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Are they.
BP
If.
Uncle Joe
If Luke and AR comes back the
BP
series different gets OKC. Luca be okay. See in 20, 24, let's talk about it.
Uncle Joe
But he did, but he didn't have these pieces. What he has now. OkC. Shea wasn't what he is now in OkC. See. Are they better than the Spurs? No, no, they can't defend. You got to realize, Luke, what did Luca have in a the Mav?
BP
Finny Smith won't earn that championship year though. He got traded.
Uncle Joe
Who was that? Defenders. Pull up that team they had.
BP
They had Derrick Jones Jr. Yeah, Derrick Jones Jr. PJ Gafford, PJ Washington.
Joe
Yeah, they had some junkyard dog guys.
BP
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they have some junkyard dog rides. Yeah, you.
Uncle Joe
They got that in, they got that in la.
BP
What's Rui? Rui not junk dog.
Uncle Joe
No, stop. Rui is a score. Rui ain't defenders. Oh, ay. Oh, ain't. Ain't defending. You talking about the guy that you like, Aiden? I, I. You can have it.
Joe
Hey, hey.
Uncle Joe
You can have it.
Joe
Hey. I knew it was bad when the Lakers threw Cleveland out there trying to get something out of here.
Uncle Joe
Thank you. Thank you.
BP
Yeah. Last, that last play, that threw me so far off. That threw me so far off. I know, I know. Rui was hot on the sideline. Like why am I. I hit about five trades tonight. I see Rui gonna get paid.
Uncle Joe
Matter of fact, he should have been one taking the shot.
Joe
Yeah, yeah. Rui gonna get paid.
BP
Hey, also who you got? Where you got Braun going, man? What's your team?
Ocho
Honestly, I mean, when I think about it and understanding what he want, I mean, you don't want to waste another year like you did here with the Lakers. I think if we want an opportunity to compete and play for a championship, obviously being the third option yet again. So he'll go to a team that is, that had already had the two headed monster.
Joe
I just feel like, man, it's tough, man.
BP
You can't even say it too.
Ocho
I, I honestly, I can't even think of nothing. I'm just being honest. There's no reason to play going into year 24 and going somewhere and be right back, which you just left.
BP
Let's go home, bro.
Uncle Joe
Let me ask you a question. In your basketball life, have you ever seen a Guy Retire? Averaging 20 with no injuries, averaging 27 7. 20.7 rebounds, 7 assists? Tell me the year, no matter how, whether it was 10, year 12, year 15, 24. Tell me the guy that have retired, averaging 27, 7, shooting 52 from the floor.
Joe
Nah, he ain't retired.
Uncle Joe
I Just. I want bp. BP say just go home.
Ocho
He said go home. Back to Cleveland. He meant back to Cleveland.
Uncle Joe
He ain't going to Cleveland.
Ocho
That's what he meant by go home.
BP
No, no, I'm saying go home.
Uncle Joe
So. Braun, Mitchell, Harden.
BP
Oh, no, I gotta. I gotta have. I gotta have Brian, Mitchell and Mobley on my team. I don't know, like everybody else. I can. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? I. I gotta have Mobley. I gotta find a way to keep Mobley. I can make him a five, maybe make Braun a four. You feel me?
Joe
Yeah.
BP
Give me a three and D in there at a three. Keep Mitchell. Ain't no telling what I can do with my one. For real. Depending on. Depending on how much Harden want. You know what I'm saying? I can get him, you know, so I can keep him. You know what I'm saying?
Uncle Joe
You want a three year deal? Probably around 90.
BP
I mean, it depends.
Uncle Joe
Us.
Joe
Yeah, he g. He gonna. He gonna want him.
BP
They got his bird, right? They got his bird, right? So they can do what they want to do with him. For real. You feel me? So. I don't know.
Uncle Joe
On that. On that championship team, it was Luca, Kyrie, P.J. washington, Derrick Jones, Jr. Daniel Gafford, Derek Lively II, Josh Green, Hardaway Jr, Jaden Hardy, Maxi Cleber, Marquis Morris, Dante Exum, A.J. lawrence, and Dwight Powell.
Joe
Yeah,
BP
say the bench again.
Uncle Joe
Luca, Kyrie, PJ Washington, Derrick Jones, junior, Derek Gafford. And then you had Derek Lively ii, Josh Green, Tim Hardaway, junior, Jaden Hardy, Maxi Cleaver, Dante Exum, Mar. Keith Morris, AJ Lawson, Dwight Powell, and.
BP
What was that? What was the finals? What was the. It was four wood. Four one.
Uncle Joe
No, I think they got swept by Boston, didn't they?
Joe
Yeah, they got swept. They ain't win no damn game.
BP
Oh, all right. All right. I don't know where you going with that roster.
Uncle Joe
You said. Hey, you said. I'm just saying, though, got past the Thunder.
BP
Yeah, yeah, he got past the thunder.
Uncle Joe
4:1. 4:1. They got beat. 4:1, Joe.
Joe
Oh, 4:1.
BP
Yeah, but I'm saying, though, like you said, that. You know what I'm saying? For Braun to win the championship, whatever it is.
Uncle Joe
No, no, no, no. We were talking about Luca. You said Luca got past the.
BP
That.
Uncle Joe
I said, even if. If they bring Luca and AR back, are they better than OKC as concurrently?
BP
I don't think nobody. Nobody OKC in San Antonio. Nah.
Uncle Joe
Are they better. Are they better than D? Are they better with Denver, with Aaron Gordon Being on the roster because Aaron Gordon got hurt. So are they better? Denver? So I said they were at best because who they got to deal with? Who they got to deal with? Jokic. And they can't defend Murray because you know what? Give the Lakers problems. If you go back and look at the Lakers over the last five years, every guard that's quick, give them a problem, from Jamar Murray to Darren Fox, I don't know.
BP
You think. You think Timberwolves better? Is the Timberwolves better than the Lakers without Brian?
Uncle Joe
They put them out. They put them out with Luke and LeBron and they are.
BP
You remember, Is the Timberwolves better than the Lakers without Braun?
Uncle Joe
Yes. The Timberwolves beat away.
BP
They the four best team then.
Joe
So.
BP
So the Lakers like five, six.
Uncle Joe
So that. But see, that's what I said. I said they're four at best. the absolute best. Therefore, I think.
Joe
I think what's taken for granted here is that the Lakers didn't have Luka in this postseason. The leading.
Uncle Joe
Yes.
Joe
In the NBA. You look at. You look at the Thunder, they didn't have Jalen Williams in that series against the Lakers. I just feel like you missing such a huge piece from the Lakers.
BP
Yeah, bro.
Joe
That I. I know y' all think I'm crazy when I say that, but I think it would have probably been a totally different series had you had Luca. Now. Can't.
BP
Oh, me too. Me too. Me too.
Joe
But if he averaging damn, 30, 35 points a night. Come on, man. I think that's a huge difference. Difference.
Uncle Joe
But who he gonna stop, though, Joe? Who can they stop? Because every time, if you go back and look at them in the clutch situation, they put two guys in the pick and roll. They put Austin Reeves and they put Luka Doncic, as great as he is offensively, go back and look at every clutch situation that the Lakers getting in. Who do they. Who do they go to?
Joe
You're right.
Uncle Joe
For him. Whoever he's guarding. They say, come set the pick. I want Luca. You're right. They say, come play at the pick. I want him.
Joe
You're right.
Uncle Joe
That's what I'm.
Joe
What I'm saying is you write about that, but what I'm saying, his offense is his damn defense. You know what I mean? That's how he offsets. Look, I'm gonna come out and get y' all 35. Now, my man may have, you know, 30, but hell, I'm gonna do my job. That's all I'm saying. I just feel the way he plays the game offensively and the passes and make guys around him better and score the basketball. You can't eliminate that man.
BP
Get to the bonus. He put the team in the bonus early. Like, yeah, throwing his head back. Get a foul, you're in the bonus with 5, 6 minutes left in the first, second quarter, third quarter, you know what I'm saying? That's. That's extra points.
Uncle Joe
And for real though, that you have is when he goes to the bench. See, when Shay goes to the bench, you saw.
BP
But it wouldn't though, because when Luca go to the bench, Braun, then him. The problem was right now, they come
Uncle Joe
with Caruso, they come with Kason Wallace, they come with Isaiah, Joe, they come with all those other guys you think about. Shay was in foul trouble. Shay go to the bench, they're down six. He comes back in the ball game, they're up nine. What other team can give you that?
Joe
Well, well, look at this.
Uncle Joe
They. They.
BP
They made them the Knicks. The Knicks can.
Joe
They made. They made a trade and brought Marcus Smart over.
Uncle Joe
You gotta.
Joe
Look, understand something. When the Lakers play the Thunder. Now, we. We know AJ Mitchell had a hell of a series, but outside of that last game, Shade never got loose from them. I thought. I thought Marcus Smart done a hell of a job in being physical and making it tough on. Now if I got my 33 point score next to me with Marcus Smart, man, it could be a different series. That's all I'm saying.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, but now you gonna have. But see. Okay, let's. So who do we start? Because I can't start. So you want to start Marcus Smart, Oscar reeves, Luca Doncic, LeBron James and. And DeAndre Aiden. Right. So now you got three terrible defenders on the court.
Joe
Well, my thing is ar and d. A. I ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't talking about starting Smart because I feel like he's a igniter. Meaning? And the times he's came off the bench and the Lakers have been in these lows. He's managed defensively just by being disruptive, you know, giving them extra possessions, whether it's defensively picking his man up, picking his pocket, just getting momentum boost. You know what I mean? I ain't saying you gotta start him, but you need guys like that, Especially if you got Luca AR at the 1 and 2.
Uncle Joe
But just imagine if you don't start him. Who guards, who guard Shake. Now, you don't let Shay get his rhythm. Once he gets his rhythm, I don't give you them. You get Marcus Smart, Maxwell Smart, Keith Smart. He going for 40.
BP
Say it again. Who that.
Uncle Joe
Who you say he could get? Marcus Smart, Maxwell Smart. Keith Smart. He going for 40.
Joe
Hey, hey. And that's. And that's what you're dealing with when you.
Uncle Joe
When you.
Joe
The Lakers. Hell, Luca averaging 20. 20 points in the first quarter.
Uncle Joe
He is.
Joe
Hey, you know. Hey, man, I'm just saying momentum is.
Uncle Joe
Is.
Joe
Is a real thing. And without Luca, I don't feel like the Lakers get a real fair assessment on where they could have really went.
BP
I thought you was a Laker fan. Huh?
Uncle Joe
Oh, I'm. I'm a. I'm a laker. I'm a LeBron fan. But I'm a realist. That's. That's what I am. I'm a realist. And at the end of the day, and, you know, playoff basketball comes down to the defense.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
You gotta get stops. And when the Lakers. Lakers had to leave, they couldn't get a stop. They couldn't get a stop. It's hard. It's that. That is. You put so much pressure on your team when you're defensively challenged, because guess what? Both guys get broken down off the rip.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Once you get broken down off the rip. You know this, BP you had the team's. You had the team's mercy. They get whatever they want. They don't broke Luca down. They don't broke ar down off the rip. They get to the flow game. They get wide open. Threes or they get lobs at the rim. The same thing. Remember what they did to James Harden in game one when they went 11 straight?
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Russell would. Did what level? Straight. And then when he came, I got the lob right here.
BP
Boom.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
And then guess what? When they came to help, I kicked. Boom. At some point in time, like you say. You know what? God dang it. You ain't finna beat me, right?
BP
Facts.
Uncle Joe
I refuse to. And then D. A. I don't know what DA was. Did. I mean, we recommended that he go try apply for a cdl, but we don't know how that's gonna turn out, boy. But, hey, that was a recommendation. I just. I just. I just wish. I just wish he had some consistency. See, I wish he just, like, cared a little bit about this much.
Joe
Give you a little more effort.
Uncle Joe
Oh, my goodness. How you gonna be okay with two points? You play 30 minutes, you okay with two points? Four points and three rebounds? At seven foot, I don't know. We gonna see. We gonna see. Hey, BP man. Thank you, man. Thanks for coming on, bro. We appreciate that. That.
BP
I appreciate y' all for having me on here, man. This final.
Uncle Joe
We gonna call you back. We gonna see what this talking. See what you talk about in the finals.
BP
Come on, man, call me back. Ring me, man. I'm always. I be. I'll be doing stuff with fan. Do it running back always, every week. So yeah.
Joe
Hey, good to see you, bro.
BP
Likewise, bro. Likewise.
Joe
Yes, sir.
Ocho
Hey, bp, make sure you in that lab.
BP
I'm in that lab every day, bro. That's why I'm here. I started with 60 players in my job, bro. It's only nine players left in my draft on one on years later. But I'm still going.
Joe
Yeah, okay, okay.
BP
Listen, guys like Joe where I'm from and pull his new inspired young ne
Joe
like yeah, yeah, gotta keep.
Ocho
That's real. That's.
BP
I gota.
Ocho
Yeah, that's real. That's real touching. I ain't trying to hear that.
Uncle Joe
Bp.
Joe
Don't worry. I'mma give his ass some humble pop.
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Joe
Oh, no.
Uncle Joe
People are gonna be obsessed. What do you mean?
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People hate the sound of chewing. Maybe they won't like the crunch.
Uncle Joe
Maybe we're saved.
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Wait a minute. Yellow. Have you been eating them this whole time? Mmm. So tasty. Hands off us.
Uncle Joe
M&M's popped caramel. It's more fun together.
Date: May 22, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe with co-hosts and guests (Joe, Ocho, Uncle Joe, BP/Bobby Portis)
This wide-ranging episode dives deep into several hot-button NBA topics, centering on the playoff series between the Spurs and Thunder, the physical style of playoff basketball, and most notably, Bobby Portis’ response to Myles Turner’s recent public comments about Bucks superstar Giannis Antetokounmpo’s leadership and punctuality. The crew also weighs in on LeBron James’ free agency prospects, potential Lakers moves, and how shifting NBA media—like player podcasts—are changing locker room dynamics.
The tone is raucous, candid, and unfiltered, with plenty of banter and memorable one-liners alongside thoughtful analysis.
[02:31–08:32]
Charles Barkley’s Defense of Physical Play: Barkley calls out critics saying physical defense against Victor Wembanyama (Wimby) is excessive.
Strategy vs. Wimby: The pod discusses early and aggressive defense to keep Wimby from getting comfortable:
Fouls & Officiating: Predictions that refs will call more fouls due to the spotlight on physicality, especially against Wembanyama.
Ref's Impact: All agree the game’s tone is set in the first few minutes by how refs whistle physical play. "You will find out early on, within the first two to three minutes of the ball game, Joe, we're gonna see how the game officiated. That’s going to tell you how they're going to call the game moving forward." – Uncle Joe [08:07]
[12:09–15:09]
BP’s In-Game Experience: Portis explains his approach defending Wimby:
Team Impact: Portis highlights how Wimby’s roll unlocks the offense for the Spurs, generating open looks for shooters like Champagne.
Importance of the ‘Low Man’: "That low man in the NBA damn near the most important guy, bro." [14:20]
[16:19–18:40]
Key Determinant: Injuries
Pro Readiness: Discussion about being prepared for unexpected opportunities, e.g., BP’s own first playoff start—"I popped out 25 with a dub." [19:01]
[24:36–43:38]
Myles Turner’s Claims: Alleged that Giannis and other Bucks were habitually late to flights/meetings, suggesting a lax culture.
Pat Beverley & Portis Respond: Both reinforce that Giannis is not late; Portis strongly disputes Turner’s claim:
Context of Comments: Portis suggests exaggeration happens on podcasts, and that Turner "kind of got carried away… I’m a capper…I might get him hyped up or something, juice the story a little bit." [28:43]
Team Culture: All stress the importance of not airing locker-room issues publicly, the "unwritten rules" of sports media, and the added scrutiny Bucks face given Giannis’ rumored dissatisfaction.
Future Outlook: Portis says at this point, pros have to focus on preparing for next season, not speculating. "The future is so blurry right now... You gotta control the controllables. That's your work ethic; that's you being a pro every day." [32:56, 38:11]
[47:20–54:57]
LeBron’s Uncertain Future: LeBron, now a free agent, is taking time with his decision—vacationing with family before considering options.
BP’s Hot Take: Portis predicts LeBron could return to Cleveland:
Financial/Logistical Challenges: Crew debates complexity of Lakers’ cap, whether they can/will wait on LeBron:
Rosters & Contention: Skepticism about Lakers’ ability to be contenders even if they run it back, due to defensive issues:
For anyone interested in the real-life dynamics of NBA locker rooms, the intricacies of playoff strategy, and the growing impact of player-driven media, this episode provides a rich, unvarnished insider perspective. Above all, Bobby Portis sets the record straight regarding leadership in Milwaukee while also speculating playfully but insightfully on some of the league’s juiciest off-season questions, notably LeBron’s next move. Highly recommended for fans wanting a blend of unfiltered personality and smart basketball insight.