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Ocho Cinco
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Shannon Sharpe
Right, Nick, we're gonna get you out of here on this. The Indiana Fever fell at home to The Atlanta Dream tonight. 9,000. Ryan Howard balled out 20 points, three steals, four made threes, two clutch free throws to secure the win. Kaitlin Clark 27 and 11 and now holds the record for the most 25 point 10 assist games in WNBA history. Despite only playing one year in two games, she has the most 2510 games in WNBA history. Despite only playing one year, two games. Kaitlyn Clark has six, Sabrina Nescu has five, DT, the great Diana Tausi has four. Nobody else has more than two. Clark did it in 44 career games. They've been, look, there been a lot of back and forth. I think a lot of people didn't want to give her the credit that she deserved. Where she need to play X amount of years. When a player is great in his rookie year, he's great. Ain't nobody tried to hold Magic back. Ain't nobody tried to hold Bird back. They were good and people acknowledged they were good. How, what, what is it? From what you can see, Nick, having played the game, having coached the game, still being around the game, having been around the game, still following the game with your own podcast, what is it about Caitlin Clark that makes us so polarizing?
Ocho Cinco
Well, to me, even when she was in college, man, I said she's gonna dominate once she get to the wnba. I knew it. I could see it for one, her range is crazy. So now the defense gotta pick her up higher on the court. Now if you pick me up high on the court and as quick as I am and as good as my handles is, guess what? Now I'm leaving your paint. And when I'm living in your paint, I'm dropping it off. Boston, get this layup. Get this layup. Get this layup. So to me, watching these, watching Caitlyn is teams are overly aggressive, right? And she's not phased by that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know how Luca, when Luka played against the Clippers and the fans, we like, oh, the Clippers, Kawhi, pg, Pat, they finna beat Luka up and Luke ain't worried about that. He playing at his own pace. Caitlin Clark plays at her own pace. So while you want to be aggressive, guess what she gonna do? She gonna use that against you. And a lot of times they use their aggression on the court. So the reason why she's able to get that many assists, they not for threes. A lot of times they for bunnies.
Shannon Sharpe
They for bunny layup. Yep.
Ocho Cinco
Because that big is just sitting in that pocket. She getting that pass rolling. She getting easy layups. But Caitlyn, man, like all through, like her little short WNBA career, I said this about this girl, man, was the fact that everybody on the Outside was just chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp. You ain't hear that girl say one word?
Shannon Sharpe
Nope.
Ocho Cinco
She didn't say one word. You know, she kept doing. She kept hooping.
Shannon Sharpe
Get better.
Ocho Cinco
She got it, though. She got it. She ain't worried about that other stuff. She got it.
Shannon Sharpe
You know what I said, Nick? I said the same thing. And people said with Trae Young, I say, trey Young's gonna be good in the NBA, man, he too small. I said, the dude led the nation in scoring an assist. So if he can't score, he can facilitate. And if you try to take away his big, he can score. When you can shoot the ball with the range she has, she can get all the way to the rim. You see how she's getting. She's averaging eight assists a game in college. You mean to tell me that's not going to translate? Of course it is, because she's not one dimensional. Now, we saw Jim for that struggle because he could only shoot the ball. So now when bigger guys, they crowd him, he had a hard time. Now, Trae Young, okay, yeah, you crowded. Jimmer didn't have the handles that Trey had. That can get his own shot off. Jimmer couldn't facilitate. Trey can get you a 30, 20 game. There hasn't been very many guys in NBA history that could get you a 30, 20 game. He can. Caitlin Clark has that exact ability. She can go get you a 2010, a 2015 game, maybe even a 30, 15 game. Because she has that ability. She can handle the ball. She's tremendous off the dribble, like you said. She can get downhill. Oh, she can get downhill. Hey, take that with you right there. Or now, if I'm playing her, if I catch her going right, that's where she's gonna get that three off on you. If you notice most of her threes, when she hit that one in college, that broke the record, the one she hit against the Brazilian team. She likes to float right. I mean, left. Excuse me.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But hey, but you.
Clarence Hill
You know what you could think about too, Nick? About why people obviously question players that are great in college, obviously excluding someone like a Caitlin Clark or Trae Young. But we see so many players that are great in college most of the time not paying. Not paying attention, whether they're one dimensional, whether they can put the ball on the floor or what they can do. But they play so great in college, and you see so many of them get to the NBA and they never pan out to what they can be. So then even with someone as great as Trae Young or someone as great as Clayton Clark is, obviously with the hype surrounding them as well, they always doubt it. They always doubt it because it's not the elite of the elite or it's not the highest level. So they always question it until they get there and they actually prove everybody wrong. And that's what, that's what Trey Young was able to do. And obviously Caitlin Clark and doing it as well.
Shannon Sharpe
I think a lot of it has do, Nick, because their size. Because if Trey Young was 6' 5 and led the nation and scored an assist, it wouldn't have been no issue. But he's six foot. Caitlin Clark, she's not Asia Wilson. She's not six' four, six' five like a Stewie. And so people look at it like, well, what I mean, she ain't gonna play with her back to the basket, blah, blah, blah. But you have to look at what they're able to do, how they're able to create points. Not only can I create for me, I. I can create for you and make it easier for you. And so when you factor those things in, I mean, damn, you want God to give him everything. So you want God to make Trey average 27 points in college, average double digit assists in college and make him 6.65. So you want Caitlin Clark to be able to handle the ball like she handles, shoot the ball from the three like she does and make her Stewie or Asia Wilson high. How fair would that be?
Ocho Cinco
It's, it's, you know, it's. A lot of hate are awesome, you know, a lot of people hate it, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people hate it on Caitlyn, you know what I'm saying? And it comes with the territory, right? It comes territory and the form of respect that I thought that they showed Caitlyn last year was in the all star game, picking her up full court in the all star game, full court, beating her up during the season, which is normal. Like you come in as a top player, guess what we f to show you, you know what I'm saying? Welcome to our league. We know you're gonna be good, but welcome to our league. Take this with you. That's normal. Pass the ball, you know what I'm saying? And she handled it. She wasn't tripping. It was just the outside tripping. And that's why, that's why she gained so much respect for me, is because she ain't never getting to the media, crying about, you know, what I'm saying she let, she let the outside noise cry. She just balled out, man.
Shannon Sharpe
What? The game that they had on Saturday was the most viewed game since 2000. Normally her games, they sell out. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how good the opposing team is. We know when they go to New York and they play to Liberty, we understand when they come to Las Vegas and play the Aces, we understand that it doesn't matter who she plays, the state. I mean, I went to the game when they played the Aces. I mean, and you would have thought she was on the home team when they introduced her. I ain't telling what somebody told me, Ocho. I'm telling you what. I'm there, I'm there. I hear, I heard it. Yeah, she different saw at the All Star game. I was at the All Star game in Phoenix, in Arizona, she got an ovation that rivals Asia Wilson.
Ocho Cinco
You know, from an individual standpoint, the last NBA player that in my eyes who had that kind of effect on society was that damn Allen Iverson. AI had that same effect, man, because when he went into an opposing arena, he got a standing ovation. Sometimes you get teams going like the Lakers, Lakers, Austin, the Knicks. A team can go to an opposing. AI, to me, outside of Jordan was that next person, you know what I'm saying? That when he went into any arena in the country, man, he got that standing ovation beginning. All throughout the game, they cheered for AI. Caitlin Clark got that same effect right now in the wnba and she's bringing.
Shannon Sharpe
Eyeballs and sponsors and advertisers and they're about to do a new deal that's going to generate millions and millions of dollars. It's going to increase the salary. So a one year salary, so now a one year, a max player might get 3, 350, 400,000. Why y' all think that is?
Ocho Cinco
To, to, to me, it's, it's, it's a win, win for the ladies, man, you know, it's a win, win. It's a win win. Keep, hey, keep, keep beating her up, you know what I'm saying? Keep making it rough for her, you know what I'm saying? Because that's making her better. That's making her team better. Now her team, you see her team, they coming to her defense now, you know, and she got better people around her. They coming to her defense. But I love the women's game. To me, the women are made way more fundly sound, fundamentally sound than NBA guys than, than the men's side And I love to see these girls who. And I love to see when. When the good games. The Indiana's against the. You know what I'm saying, The Las Vegas Aces and the.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, the Aces in Minnesota.
Ocho Cinco
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Or, or. Or Liberty. Yeah. You know, I don't know how good I think Dallas is going to be. I think. I think the Mercury is going to be pretty good this year also. They, they. They added a few pieces, I think. Sabatelli. Yeah, I think they added her. They added somebody else too. The Mercury did. They picked up two players because BG is now in Atlanta. Yeah, look, I remember when they first came in the institute. I think it was 96 when they brought the WNBA to the. And you know, normally when the women left, I mean, you never heard from them again. You know, I go back to Cheryl Miller and pam and Paula McGee. I remember all those. Clarissa Davis. I remember all the old. The old guard was coming in and then, you know, started watching. You know, back then when LA Tech with Kim Mulkin, Chancellor, they won the national championship and the USC knocked them off and then Texas knocked them off. And then here comes Tennessee and Tennessee ran it for a year and then here come UConn. Yeah. But now, I mean now with the parody and the league spread out and it's growing and it's getting eyeballs and look, you say what you want to say. People started watching the NBA, got interested when Magic and Bird came. Right. You said, you want to say Magic and Bird did that. Cause the game was still tape delayed. You was flying commercial. Yep. You could get on the plane. You might be sitting next to your favorite NBA player. So, hey, Kaylin is doing an unbelievable job. You're right. Oh, you know how it is when the rookie come in. We don't make it easy on him. No. A linebacker, safety, corner. I paid the whole. I'm throwing up. Give you the whole nine yards. All I'm bringing out all the tricks. I'm trying to make you look as bad as I possibly can. Cause what you think those other. Those other guys on the other team gonna do? You think they gonna. Oh, man. Hey, man, he didn't number one pick. Let's take it easy on him. Hell no.
Clarence Hill
Everybody trying to prove a point.
Shannon Sharpe
Everybody got to prove that point. Cause, bro, I don't. First of all, I don't ever want you to think that you can cover me. So I'm gonna get to. I'm gonna get to you early and often. That's why I went to the Pro bowl show. We had one on one. Now you're not gonna cover me because I don't want you to get back to the mainland and think you can cover me. It ain't just cause you over there in Hawaii that you can't do it. When we come back to the regular stage, the 48th.
Clarence Hill
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't gonna see me over there either. So we good. Just so we know.
Clarence Hill
Wait, you're on the same page.
Shannon Sharpe
Everything is. But she's box office. I mean, she's what she's already now listed the top guards, the top centers, the top forwards. She's already top guard second year in the league.
Ocho Cinco
Yes. And she was.
Shannon Sharpe
She was all wnba, first year in the league and she's a favorite to win the MVP second year in the league.
Clarence Hill
That's correct.
Shannon Sharpe
Just going to show you. Oh, she hyped. No, she not hype. I've seen hype. No, that's not media creation. That girl.
Clarence Hill
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Excuse me. That young lady can really, really play, man.
Clarence Hill
Listen, if you gotta. If you got a set of eyes, you know that.
Ocho Cinco
Yes.
Clarence Hill
Anything. Anything outside of that, at some point it becomes okay. Now you just.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You tried to find fault. Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
I think when the WNBA first came out. Cause I was around it, I was living in Houston and they had the comics, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they had everybody.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, they had everybody.
Shannon Sharpe
They had Cynthia Cooper, they had Tina Thompson and they had Sher. Swoops.
Ocho Cinco
Swoops.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they had three of the top six players in the NBA.
Ocho Cinco
Yes, they did. And I remember vividly when Rebecca Lobo came on the scene, like the WNBA was just trying to promote. Promote Rebecca Lobo. And Ocho just said it. You know what I'm saying? You got a ball. The eye test is going to tell you, like, you can't force nobody on us. You know what I'm saying? And Caitlin Clark, you ain't got to try to force her on the public. Like she can hoop, you know what I'm saying? So kudos to her because she's helping the game out big time.
Shannon Sharpe
Heavy. The big time is going to grow exponentially. A lot of their games going to be nationally televised. I thought she should have been on the Olympic team last year. I thought she was that good. Hey, she gotta wait her turn. But her turn is coming. Definitely coming in 2028. Nick the chat keep asking us about some Kobe stories. Rest his soul. What's your favorite Kobe story?
Ocho Cinco
Oh, man. Favorite Kobe story. So of course, everybody know we used to play one on one. All the time. And, you know, Kobe was a big time. And one player at that time, you know what I'm saying? And one was hot. And I ain't gonna lie, Kobe had better handlers than me. And so you remember the dunk he did and we all going crazy on the sideline? Yeah. That happened to be a.
Shannon Sharpe
A pre preseason game, right?
Ocho Cinco
Preseason game in Vegas. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
People don't understand. Like, they thinking he's celebrating the dunk. Nah, he ain't celebrating the dunk. Dale Harris in the huddle, Kobe come up, get the ball, we gonna fake screen and whatever. Cool players for Kobe, he walk out. He telling everybody. And Kobe, Kobe used to walk. You know, he. Kobe was about 8ft tall, man, the way he walked. Cause it's, you know, he had the swag. You know what I'm saying? The swag is crazy. And he just walking up to everybody. I'm about to dunk on this fool. I'm about to dunk on this fool. I'm about to cross this fool up and dunk on it. Oh. Oh. That's why we went crazy. Because that man sit there, that's the.
Shannon Sharpe
One he put behind his back and came up under the rim. Oh, no, no.
Ocho Cinco
The one where he just crossed him up and came down in the middle.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
I think Ben Wallace tried to take the charge.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
And so we. We was tripping because a 18, 19 year old literally just told us, I'm about to cross this fool up and dunk on him. And so when he did it, our reaction wasn't the dunk. Our reaction was, damn. This little just said what he was about to do in the game and did it. That's why we was tripping. We was like, oh, my God.
Shannon Sharpe
Wow.
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Ocho Cinco
Not as good. It was an indication he was going to be good but not the greatness. You know what I'm saying? But here's things that I saw in him that when you look back you can understand right so one was, he was taking classes at UCLA in the summertime. Summertime, ucla, we going up there to hoop, you know what I'm saying? So, right, every time I'm walking to the gym, Kobe walking this way. So we crossing paths. He got his backpack on, he drilling his ball, what up quick.
Shannon Sharpe
He gone.
Ocho Cinco
I'm talking about. It's like. It was like clockwork every day. This is how I do it every day. That was one thing. Every day after practice, he got all the power forwards, the 6, 9, 6, 10, 6, 11 guys. And they playing one on one with him. But. But he the only one can shoot. He the only one can shoot. So now he working on all the Jordan moves, all the Jordan Fadeways. So they get a point if he miss. He get a point if he make. Every day. Every day. So I used to have these VHS tapes, right? And they was. They was full of the goat. You know what I'm saying? Michael Jordan, the Goat.
Shannon Sharpe
About.
Ocho Cinco
About eight hours worth, right? The Goat. Michael Jordan, the Goat.
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't buying into it, Nick. I heard you the first time, but.
Ocho Cinco
You already know, so. So I. I had about six to eight hours of the vhs. Like two or three of them, right? And I would put him on a plane and it had boxing on it, it had football, it had just all highlights. It was crazy. And, man, one time we getting ready to get out the plane. Kobe used to. Everybody called Kobe Kicko. He called Kicko, Kicko, Kicko. Let me get that tape. So I gave him. Let him get my two tapes. Uncle. I ain't seen them tapes, man. I still ain't seen them. And Tracy McGrady. Och, ocho. Tracy McGrady said that when he came out to LA and stayed with Kobe Nell, he said all Kobe did was watch Michael Jordan. I'm like, yeah, motherfucker, that's my tapes. But that was like, we knew he was gonna be good. We knew he was gonna be good.
Shannon Sharpe
Like, we knew that, but the greatness, like, historically great.
Ocho Cinco
I tell people, like, Kobe was way more mature than us, and we were three, four years in the league before Kobe, but he was way more mature than us. So, yeah, man, he worked at being great. It ain't just happened.
Shannon Sharpe
Nick, tell the people where they can find you at. Plug your podcast. What's your podcast called?
Ocho Cinco
So it's Quick to the Point, man. Nick Van Nessen, Quick to the point on YouTube, man. Check us out, man. We just getting started, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Who's your co host?
Ocho Cinco
We got Brandon Dean, University of Arkansas legend. Johnny Collins. TCU track star. So him and Clarence Hill, Dallas Cowboy beat writer.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep, yep, yep. I know. I know Clarence very well. Yeah. What can they. Where can they find you on IG and Twitter?
Ocho Cinco
Ugh, man, I literally just got on IG a few weeks ago. I think it's Nick. Nick the Quick Van Epson. Nick the Quick Van Exel on IG and on Twitter. That's the one I'm always active on. Is Van Exo My last name? 31. The number 31. Van Xo31 on Twitter.
Shannon Sharpe
Make sure y' all go check. Y' all make sure y' all check out Nick Van X on his podcast at Twitter and ig. Nick, thanks for joining you. Give us a few minutes tonight, man. Greatly appreciate it. When you get a few moments, come back and stop. Stop by and talk to us.
Ocho Cinco
Yes, sir. Oh, oh, save me one of them sticks, man.
Clarence Hill
Oh, I got, I got you. I got. I got a few of them. When you coming back out here?
Ocho Cinco
I gotta come back out there in about two weeks. Hey, tell your brother though, I'm headed to South Carolina. I'm trying to see him on that course.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you okay?
Clarence Hill
All right.
Ocho Cinco
I'm headed to South Carolina.
Shannon Sharpe
You want to play for some money or something? I need to tell him to get his money, right? Nah, I'm good. All right, man. Hey, appreciate that, man. I'll talk to you, bro.
Ocho Cinco
I appreciate y' all, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, what up, baby? It's official. NFL players will be allowed to compete in flag football in LA 28 Olympic Games. NFL owners have now officially approved a resolution to allow their players to participate in flag football in the 2028 Summer Olympics. By vote 32 oh unanimous. The NFL version of the Dream Team is coming. Justin Jefferson on flag football and Olympics and the NFL being able to participate in. To be honest, I'm at a loss for word to think about a chance for playing in the Olympics and getting a gold medal. It's a dream 5 on 5 format which each team filled in a 10 man roster comprised of the following positions. A quarterback who can only run past the line of scrimmage after handing the ball off and receiving a lateral or going out for a pass. A center who can only go out for a pass immediately after snapping the ball. Wide receiver back, who can line up as either standard running back or wide receiver. A rusher who can rush the quarterback from seven yards off the line of scrimmage. Defensive back who defensively function functions as a traditional corner safety who prioritizes defending the pass over the run Here are the rules. Ocho. The field is 70 yards by 25 yards. 40 minute games, two 20 minute halves, including a two minute warning. Four downs to reach midfields and four downs to score. Touchdown. No plays within five yards of the end zone. Overtime scores tied with each team getting equal chance to win. Ocho.
Clarence Hill
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Your general manager. Pick your ten man squad.
Clarence Hill
Oh, my ten man squad?
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. Woo. Lamar. And quarterback.
Clarence Hill
You got Lamar.
Shannon Sharpe
You better take Lamar. Cause he can run that throne.
Clarence Hill
Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, we got Lamar. Quarterback. Okay, give me, Give me Chase. Give me Justin.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Clarence Hill
We need a running back, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Clarence Hill
Give me Saquon. What else?
Shannon Sharpe
We need you. You need running back. You need two wide receivers, a quarterback. You need rusher, corner and safety.
Clarence Hill
Give me Stingy.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Clarence Hill
Give me stink on one side. Yeah. Give me PS2 on the other side. My safety. Give me, Give me Derwin.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, Give me Derwin.
Clarence Hill
You know, he. He can get back there. He rangy as hell. We need a linebacker, huh? We need somebody in that middle, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
You better get somebody that can rush the passer. You need Micah. You want Miles Garrett.
Clarence Hill
No, no, no. Give me Michael. He's a little bit more. A little bit more quick twitch. Okay, give me Michael. Can I get Fred warning now?
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, hold on, Joe. I think you trying to. You think you trying to feel a whole. A real damn team.
Clarence Hill
No, no, no, no, no. I'm just, I'm just saying. I'm not saying you got a quarterback.
Shannon Sharpe
A center, wide receiver, back, rusher, db, safety.
Clarence Hill
Hold on. But not a center. Also, we can go out for a pass, though, so it's not gonna be a real center.
Shannon Sharpe
So you gonna take Tyreek?
Clarence Hill
Yeah, let's. Let's add Tyreek. Gonna be my center. Why you laugh? Why you laughing? But also, this is. Let me, let me, let me say something real quick. Now. I understand that NFL players could do it, but we have, we have legit flag football team.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Clarence Hill
That, that actually play the game. So I'm, I'm hoping. I'm hoping they're integrated into this as well, somewhat. Because the game, obviously the game of flag football is going to be new to those that are playing in the NFL. And the rules are much different. Yeah, it's much different. It's much, much different. So I'm hoping those that play flag football are able to represent, you know, the country as well and, and allow to play alongside the NFL players. I'm. I'm hoping that's what it is. It's not strictly only NFL players.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Right now they're proposed roster to 20, 28 Olympic team. CBS Sports say this would be the proposed roster. Ocho Jaden Daniels at quarterback, running back. Jameer Gibbs at running back. Wide receiver Devon K. Chan. Running back, wide receiver Justin Jefferson. Wide receiver, DB Jamar Chase. Wide receiver, DB Travis Hunter. Wide receiver, DB Rush, Michael Parsons. Rush Nolan Smith Jr. Corner Darrell Stingley Jr. Safety Maxwell Hairston.
Clarence Hill
You know what, that's not bad. That's not bad. But we got to have more people out there than that though. Not on the field. I'm just saying. As far as far as reserves.
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
Clarence Hill
Reserves. We need more reserves.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you got a 10 man team. 2, 4, 6, 8, 10. That's 10. I mean the 10 man team that we CBS picked, I'm probably gonna pick somebody. Somebody that's elusive. Quick twitch. So Jaden Daniels and Lamar are going to be my quarterbacks. I like Gibbs at running back and.
Clarence Hill
That'S a good one. I said Saquon, but Gibbs is a lot.
Shannon Sharpe
28 I think. You know, I would go say Christian McCaffrey, but he might be a little, little old.
Clarence Hill
No, no, no, no, no.
Shannon Sharpe
I like Gibbs. I'm thinking who, who another running back that can, that can catch and you know what I'm saying, don't. They can catch and run. They're not gonna be running. They gonna be throwing the ball.
Clarence Hill
I like Gibbs the best.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Clarence Hill
That's why I think one is either one of the two. Yeah, I tell.
Shannon Sharpe
But all but the, the running backs and receivers are interchangeable because they're running back or receiver. So you can line them up anywhere. So I like Chase. I like Jetta. I like Tyreek. I like Achan. Yeah, I like Micah. I like that. You know who, who is a good rusher like Nolan Smith. I like Will Anderson Jr.
Clarence Hill
That's a good one. He real twitchy.
Shannon Sharpe
Cause you gotta have guys gotta be able to change direction. Ocho.
Clarence Hill
Yeah, that came back a little bit.
Shannon Sharpe
This guy's starting to stop him. And plus you gotta realize these players hadn't played flag football in 25 years.
Clarence Hill
That's why when I thought about it, I'm like, well, damn, we got players, we got people that represent us that play the game, football that actually play it. So I'm still curious. I know we talk about the NFL players and how good they are in the NFL.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Clarence Hill
But playing flag football, completely and entirely different. Entirely different game. Damn, that's a good one.
Shannon Sharpe
When Ashton Genti makes his NFL debut for the Las Vegas Raiders this season, he might be adding Debuting a new pre snap stance in the backfield. Since high school, Genti has stood straight up with his hands by his side in the backfield before the stamp. My stance that some have compared to Mike Myers, the infamous killer in Halloween horror movies. Chip Kelly, the Raiders offensive coordinator, wants me to adopt a different stance in the NFL. Oh, man, what do we oo? You have to understand, if you put him oo, if you to put him down on the down a three point stance, how is he gonna see? He already five, eight. So how tall was it when he started playing football? 5. What he gonna see? The process started the first day of Raiders recent B cap. You know, sometimes you have to, you have to go with the flow. Jente said Kelly asked him if he had ever played basketball. I'm like, yeah, I play basketball. You know, I can dunk and all that. He like, okay, show me how you would guard. And he's acting like he's holding the ball. You don't like, you don't like. Guys change. You don't like the coach changing the stance.
Ocho Cinco
What, what are we doing?
Clarence Hill
What, what is, what is Chip Kelly doing? What are you doing? The man has had success playing the game of running back in the same stance all this time. Now all of a sudden he gets to the Raiders. You want to change the way he stands. It has nothing to do with running the goddamn ball right at all. It's not giving away any indication. No indicators. Leave a man alone, man.
Shannon Sharpe
What? What?
Clarence Hill
Listen, some coaches, some coaches get a little beside themselves. Just create, just creating a narrative just to feel, just to not, not really abuse your power. Just, just do, just be unnecessary. Change his stance. For what? It's unnecessary and it's pointless.
Shannon Sharpe
Tell me so we both know. Cause if there was something that, if him standing in that stance was an indicator. It's a run, it's a pass. I said, okay, he needs to switch it, but you can't tell he's just standing there.
Clarence Hill
That's it. He does the same thing every time. Run, play, pass, play. Nothing changes. And all of a sudden he gets you. Okay, we want to change. For what makes no sense.
Shannon Sharpe
I wouldn't change. The thing is, Ocho, unless it's something like you really try to change as little as possible. I mean, maybe there's some technical things you like. You know, with a wide receiver, you like, okay, son, don't let your elbows flare out when you're doing the hook and stuff like that. You try to keep your elbows tight to your body. Things like that. You tip of your route because you're getting your head around too. You let me know you're gonna run an out or you let. You're gonna come back or something like that. But other than that, I ain't really trying to tinker with too much because I liked it enough to select him six overall. So there's something that I like. I mean, and you knew that.
Clarence Hill
And he's been doing it that way for a very long time. He was successful doing it that way for a very long time. And he. So want to add your little twing to it just to say, well, he's able to do this because this is what I told him to do.
Shannon Sharpe
Right? It's kind of like Michael Johnson running style. Why would I change that? You know, people keep saying Quincy Winston, the. Quincy Wilson, the young guy from bullets running the 400, bro. The dude run 4420. Change what?
Clarence Hill
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Same thing with Abby Steiner. Well, you know, she got that army. All I know is he ran 21:8 and she ran sub. You know, she can run sub. You know she can run sub 11. So all that other stuff that y' all talking, and she can run sub 50 into 400 meters. I ain't changing the. She's doing something right.
Clarence Hill
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So Ocho, Dak Prescott is 1,500 yards away, becoming the all time passing leader. No, Dak needs 1,500 yards to pass Troy Aikman. He needs 2740 to pass Tony Romo. So he's about. He should pass Tony Romo to become the all time passing leader in Cowboy history.
Clarence Hill
Cowboys history.
Shannon Sharpe
Until. Until I know he gonna get married. Congratulations, Dak. But if you want to be thought of like Aikman, like Starbuck, Right. Gotta get that. Ain't no way around it. Ain't no way around it.
Clarence Hill
Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. I mean, listen, when it comes to the Cowboys, I'm not sure how. How much window of opportunity they have left. I think the addition of George Pickens, you know how I feel about him. Offensively, I think they're going to be all right. When it comes to the Cowboys, it's going to be your defense. Your defense. Quite sure, because you're going to be able to put up points, your defense grabs to show up, you know, that's all it's going to come down to, especially in that division, you know, is.
Shannon Sharpe
Diggs. Is Trayvon gonna be able to come back? And how soon will he come back? They brought back Dante Fowler. He followed DQ over to the Raider. Excuse me. The commanders, they RE signed him. They want to pair him with Micah. Obviously, we know Micah wants that big deal. Micah's looking for 40 million. You know, I think he wants to be the highest paid or close to it. I don't know if the highest paid means as much, if guaranteed money means to him. We'll see how that plays out. But how. How close is Trayvon from being able to go?
Clarence Hill
He's a Yeezy a year removed from that surgery because, you know, he went a little bit last year, man.
Shannon Sharpe
I know.
Clarence Hill
Yeah. So I. I think obviously this, this second year, two years removed from it, I think. I think now he had another surgery.
Shannon Sharpe
Didn't he have another surgery? He didn't finish the season.
Clarence Hill
He got hurt again?
Shannon Sharpe
I think so. Didn't Trayvon Diggs have surgery on something? I know Overstreet is going to be gone this year. He ain't coming back.
Clarence Hill
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
He's hurt or they just shut Trayvon down. He coming back from an injury. Ojo I think.
Clarence Hill
And it's not. I'm wondering if it's something serious. I don't think it's something serious to ACL though.
Shannon Sharpe
DEZ Bryant, former Cowboy great receiver, tweeted, if the Cowboys go get Chubb, combine him with Blue, the Cowboys offense would be the most dangerous in the NFL. I really can't find a con if that happens. Think about it. Blue gets to learn from a dynamic back who plays the game the right way. That's how you mold a young, promising running back. Dak, really quick pick your poison situation. CEO Pickens can put the ball in the end zone anywhere on the field. There are so many strategic ways for the Cowboys offense for success. I think the defense is going to perform well, but how well we know Micah and Diggs are going to perform, I'm skeptical to see how the new these changes affect the defense. To sum it up, I don't think the boards are trying to win. I think they should make a few more sacrifices to compete with the new, improved NFC east division.
Clarence Hill
Listen, make a splash, Jerry. Make a splash. What. What DEZ Bryant says makes so much sense. It makes so much sense. You know, Jerry's not going to do it. Signing Derrick Henry and not using money as an issue, not being able to afford a player like Derrick Henry that has succeeded continuously despite his age in Baltimore. Listen, now you have opportunity to do it again. Make a splash again. Help your offense out. Your identity is on offense. It's what you will be known for. You have special pieces, you know, on defense. They're going to have to do what they need to do, but be all in offensively so you can compete in that nfc NFC East. Wait.
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Clarence Hill
I gotta check, I gotta check that out. I gotta. I didn't know he re injured it. I ain't know that.
Shannon Sharpe
Fred Warner signs a three year $63 million contract extension. Over 56 million guaranteed. The deal ties Warner to the team through 2029. The rework deal also returns Warner to the top of the list of the highest paid off ball linebackers in the league at 21 million per season. Remember Roqu signed that deal last year that paid him 20 million per season and brought him to the top. Now Fred is back at the top of that list. You see also they just paid Brock purdy. He got 265, he got 181 million guaranteed. Fred got 63 million, 56 million guaranteed. Oh, you like the moves they're making?
Clarence Hill
Yeah, absolutely. They took care of their three centerpieces. They three cent. They three centerpieces for that team, kiddos. Obviously the quarterback, Brock Purdy and then their defensive leader.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Clarence Hill
And Fred Warner, who is the best middle lineback in the game. So rightfully so at some point, you know, despite what Roquan Smith got, you know, you have to, you have to do right, you gotta, you gotta do right by Fred. So I mean hopefully they can, they can, they can stay healthy on both sides of the ball and contend again, you know, for another championship.
Shannon Sharpe
Joe Burrow says Trey Hendrickson deserves to get paid amid Bingles contract talks, having previously vouched for T. Higgins to get paid by the Cincinnati Bengals. Joe Burrow is now stepping up for Trey Hendrickson amid his contract standoff with the organization. Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Burrow addressed Hendrickson contract by saying he deserves to get paid based on how important he is to Cincinnati's defense.
Clarence Hill
That's gonna be tough, huh? Hey, listen, listen. I don't, I don't, I don't spend.
Shannon Sharpe
All their money on Joe, huh? Joe spending all day money.
Clarence Hill
Listen, Joe, Joe, Joe trying to squeeze him now. And one thing you don't want to do is you took care of Joe offensively, making sure Chase and T. Higgins were taken care of, both of them taking most of the money. I don't, I don't know the cap. I don't know what we have left to actually spend, but we still need to be able to, to have a team, to be able to pay everyone else. Money can't be locked up off, you know, on, on offense. Well, can't be.
Shannon Sharpe
Think about how bad your defense was. And you had Trey hendricks, who was 17 and a half sacks, 35 sacks over the last two years. So you take him out there, where you gonna get that? Production promo, Joe?
Clarence Hill
You take him out of there.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Clarence Hill
Hey, can you afford him is the problem?
Shannon Sharpe
The, the, the question is, can you afford not to? Man, Ocho, I, I, I, I don't know. I, I don't know if I can afford this insurance. Can you afford to be without it, given your history? You know, you got hypertension, you got diabetes, you got all these ailments that run in your family. So the question isn't what, can you afford it? Can you afford not to have it? Hey, that's, you know, how many games y' all lost last year, Ocho? How many games did y' all give up? 30 plus points. And you lost. You sc and you lost. You score 38, and you lose how many of those? So while you're saying, can you afford it? Can you afford not to have it?
Clarence Hill
Listen, I wish I knew what the books look like. I understand the salary cap, it continues to go up year in and year out. But listen, we got a $40 million receiver. We got a $30 million receiver, $55 million quarterback, $55 million quarterback and what he deserves as a defensive end with two 17 season.
Shannon Sharpe
17 and a half sacks.
Clarence Hill
Yeah, I mean, he, he got to get, what, upwards of what, 30.
Shannon Sharpe
He looking for 30. The reports are they offered him 28. Up from, up from like 50. I think he's supposed to make, what, 15 this year? He's gonna want to be in the 30s.
Clarence Hill
That's tough. That's tough.
Shannon Sharpe
And the thing is, Ocho, but look like you got a defense that, that stand in the office that's standing the Taj Mahal and, and, and, and, and, and hey, your defense, sleeping on some friends, family's couches.
Clarence Hill
Hey, I, I, I don't even know. I wouldn't even know what to do in this situation. I wouldn't even know because you got some people say, well, hell, he had 17 sacks, but still his defense was bad.
Shannon Sharpe
Can you imagine what it looked like if he didn't have those sacks? Remember what he did? He single handedly won you that game in Pittsburgh. Now y' all remember that?
Clarence Hill
He had three sacks. Yeah, he was at three sacks. He did, he did. He didn't.
Shannon Sharpe
And a force fumble the end of the game. Basically. Joe Burns was not happy by the team schedule for the upcoming season. Playing Baltimore for the fourth straight year in prime time is an ideal. Maybe we can get one of those games in Cincinnati. Please. The Bengals have played a night game at MT Bank State Stadium each of the past three seasons. All of them have been defeats, including last year's 35, 34. Remember Ocho again? He scored 34 points the other week. They scored 38 and they lost 41, 38.
Clarence Hill
Listen, I know Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe wanted to be home. Obviously, it makes sense. But hell, when you play the goddamn Ravens, you got one home game.
Shannon Sharpe
He said, well, let our game be the, Let our game be the prime time game.
Clarence Hill
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, that's, that's, I don't know. It'll make me none. Nighttime, daytime, anytime.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but you played with a shield, too. Didn't you play with a shield, Loacho?
Clarence Hill
Oh, no. I need to see, I need to see it, and I need you to see my eyes. I don't wear no shield.
Shannon Sharpe
I played with a shield for one year after I fractured my orbital. I played with a shield. But it's hard because, you know, for a wide receiver, you're not really in the down stance. As a tight end, you down in the down stance and that sweat dripping on the shield.
Clarence Hill
Yeah, I don't like that. Would you want a clear one?
Shannon Sharpe
I want a clear one. Yeah, I wore the dark one in the Pro bowl, but I don't know how guys, I don't know how receivers catch with that dark one, especially at night.
Clarence Hill
Wait, who, A.J. brown wear a dark one?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Clarence Hill
I don't know why they do that.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, because it's hard getting adjusted, you know? Cause we not you play a night game, you go out there that Saturday night to get your eyes adjusted, get your cleats and everything adjusted. And that glare, you catch it just right. Because, you know, sometimes that ball get lost up in the lights. They're like, man, how you, bro? I can see that damn ball up in the lights.
Clarence Hill
That's crazy.
Shannon Sharpe
Burrow is also disappointed in the NFL for not giving them an international game. He says he worked really hard. He's worked really hard to grow the NFL internationally. And it's disappointing they haven't had one yet. But he is doing quarterbacks, correct? I think, yeah. Are you disappointed, Ocho, that you didn't have an international game? Cause they probably would ask you to go to be an ambassador.
Clarence Hill
I mean, that would have been cool. That would have been cool. I got my passport too. But I mean, listen, their time will come, obviously. You know what? That long flight, you should be thankful you don't have to fly there during the season anyway. You should be thankful and because, you.
Shannon Sharpe
Know, they get over there, they get over the day before. Right.
Clarence Hill
Again, why they shouldn't. Well, they should be happy they don't have to take no 7, 8, 8, 9 hour flight, go across that water.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they might arrive the day of. I mean, they might. Because it's not like you. It used to. Cause there were guys, teams would go over there like that. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, they don't do that anymore with yo.
Clarence Hill
He probably get all the practice in before they even leave.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Clarence Hill
Do a walk through and get there.
Shannon Sharpe
They say studies and doctors say it's best to just go over there and just go play the game.
Clarence Hill
Yeah. Look at that. That's a double S backwards.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. New Orleans inmate. Watch. One was captured at home. The other was captured as he fell asleep at the bus stop.
Clarence Hill
But what are you doing at the bus stop anyway? What's the.
Shannon Sharpe
Listen, what's the point of it being on the next train? I don't know when I'll be back again.
Clarence Hill
But what's the point of breaking out of jail if you ain't got nowhere to go? I'mma just stay. It's still, you know, it's some bet. It's some bets out there right now for the.
Shannon Sharpe
Who's the last one gonna get captured? Yeah. Yeah, Ocho.
Clarence Hill
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I, I look, I promise you, I might call. I ain't going home. Cause there's a great, there's a great chance. The first place they gonna look, they gonna go look at my brother's house. They gonna look at my sister's house. They gonna look at my house. So I'm getting the farther I'm getting. First of all, if I'm New Orleans, I'm getting the farthest away I can, the quickest I can.
Clarence Hill
Wait. You can't get far away unless you got money. You got to get the money from the breakout.
Shannon Sharpe
You don't know. Hey, I'm blowing this joint. Leave me 500.
Clarence Hill
500 what?
Shannon Sharpe
$500. What the hell you gonna go with.
Clarence Hill
$500 in this economy?
Shannon Sharpe
500. I'm getting away from New Orleans. That's where I'm going. Trailway or Greyhound will get you away. You can get $30. I'm going to be in Texas. I'm going to be in New York. I'm going somewhere, but you're not going to catch me in New Orleans.
Clarence Hill
Okay, well, you gonna get caught somewhere else, and I'm trying to.
Shannon Sharpe
$500, but I'm. Hey, guess what? I got a chance to see something besides New Orleans.
Clarence Hill
Nah, how you gonna eat $500?
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, nah. Go get me a grand slam. Dennis got them grand slams. Oh, IHOP got all you can eat. All you can eat pancakes.
Clarence Hill
I'm trying to make me a bet on who get caught last.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm giving me a shave. Everybody got a homeboy that's. Hey, I got a homeboy that's a barber. Hey, come hook your boy. That's a barber, man. Hey, where you calling me from? Stop asking all these questions. Contact me. Cut. You know, if I got a beard, I'm shaving the beard. I got a mustache. I'm saving the mustache. If I got. I'm cutting. I'm cleaning up, right?
Clarence Hill
You don't think about that. You saw a buddy, got broke out of jail. First thing he do, he go on IG live with his homeboy. Yeah, they caught him. They caught him quick.
Shannon Sharpe
Quick. He deserve to get caught.
Clarence Hill
Listen, man, whatever he did, he probably.
Shannon Sharpe
Had it on him when they called him the first time. The bus stop on your. You gonna be out there in plain sight.
Clarence Hill
Hey, but they ain't got nowhere. You ain't got nowhere to go, especially if your family don't want to deal with you. If you feel it. That's the only reason you own the bus stop, because you know you ain't got nowhere to go. And then, hold on. You in jail for whatever it is, maybe murder or something like that, and then your family, they let you in. Now they could go to jail. Yeah, they told him, no, you ain't coming to hell Better go back where you came from.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, like. Like on the wash.
Clarence Hill
He might as well.
Shannon Sharpe
You might as well remember that movie with three strikes. Don't bring that heat up in here. Hell, no. No. But no, Joe. You can't get caught in plain sight. I ain't gonna be at the bus stop, Ojo. I think you can make it. I think you can make it, Ojo. I think you can make it a month or two.
Clarence Hill
Listen, it's one thing for you to say it and it sound easy when you plan it out in your head, because you're not really in that situation.
Shannon Sharpe
True.
Clarence Hill
Your family ain't turning back on you.
Shannon Sharpe
You right about that, Ojo.
Clarence Hill
You ain't got no money.
Shannon Sharpe
You. You right about that. It's easy to say. Oh, man. Okay.
Clarence Hill
What you do?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Clarence Hill
All right.
Shannon Sharpe
That might be right, Ocho. I might as well go ahead and take the three hearts of the car and just shut it on down. Hey, matter of fact, y' all go ahead, man. I'm mopping the flow.
Clarence Hill
Hey, I see when you get. I see y' all when y' all get back.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Nobody knows the trouble. I see. Yeah.
Clarence Hill
I'm still trying to think about where you think you going with $500 just cause you broke out of jail.
Shannon Sharpe
That's a little something, Ocho.
Clarence Hill
That ain't nothing, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
That I can Give me a good old. All you can eat pancakes. I can eat about 15, 16 pancakes. Sometimes you just want some fresh pancakes and sausage, fresh orange juice.
Ocho Cinco
Bang.
Clarence Hill
Gonna work.
Shannon Sharpe
Or give me. Give me some good old oxtails, some other fried pork chops, something. Well, especially in New Orleans, if you could eat seafood gumbo, jumbalaya and too fake crawfish. Okay.
Clarence Hill
La Beignet for dessert?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotta go by carfei do more. Let me get. Let me get three with powder sugar. Let me get two with powdered sugar and three without. Hell no, I'll be. But that's the thing. You ain't thinking about it.
Clarence Hill
No.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, no. Oh. She from a 27 year old. Jeffersonville, Georgia. I know Jefferson is. Tiffany Slayton was found alive after reportedly surviving three weeks alone injured in the California mountains with no equipment, no food. Enduring 13 brutal snowstorms and a climbing 11,000ft. Tiffany was found safe in a cabin near Lake Edison in the Sierra Nevada mountains in California. After being missing for weeks, she came across the cabin during a blizzard and said she thought she was hallucinating that she had made it to the North Pole.
Clarence Hill
Hey, hold on. This is our people.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Clarence Hill
One of Us.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Clarence Hill
At that loss.
Shannon Sharpe
Loss.
Clarence Hill
Well, normally we. You know, stuff like that, you hear stories like this is definitely because we don't put ourselves in those situations.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no. We. Not. We not really outdoorsy like that.
Clarence Hill
No, no, not. Not really. And if we.
Shannon Sharpe
Are we real careful, you know, people ask me all the time, man, you. You go camping? No, I grew up in a. I grew up in a log cabin. It was worse than log cabin. I grew up in the woods. How long do you think you can survive?
Clarence Hill
Survive what?
Shannon Sharpe
Out there in the wilderness by yourself?
Clarence Hill
Shoot, man, I'm trying to think. You know I climb Mount Everest, right? So when I think about when I.
Shannon Sharpe
Climb out, ain't no food in Mount Everest. At least out there in the wilderness, you might run across some game. If you can hit it and kill it. Maybe a rabbit, a squirrel, some fouls. You don't like the fish, you ain't got no patience. But when you get hungry, huh?
Clarence Hill
I can spearfish.
Shannon Sharpe
Where you get the spear from?
Clarence Hill
I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make. What you mean, wait? I'm get it from. I make it. I was a Cub Scout. I was a lead Cub scout back in 83. You heard me.
Shannon Sharpe
This man talk about all the things he gonna do, and he ain't got nothing.
Clarence Hill
No, unc, I'm saying that's not what.
Shannon Sharpe
Berries to eat and not to eat.
Clarence Hill
You eat the blue ones, the red ones. The red was not good for you. It up your digestive system. I was a Cub Scout.
Shannon Sharpe
I used to camp into the wild. I think it was the guy that. He's from Georgia, Emory, and he went to Alaska. And, you know, he ended up eating wild and started. He ended up dying. I think that's the name of the movie. You remember that movie?
Clarence Hill
You know why? You know why he died? Can I tell you why he died? He, for one, he didn't have survival skills. Two, he wasn't the first.
Shannon Sharpe
Do you think this woman has survival skills?
Clarence Hill
You asked me a hypothetical.
Shannon Sharpe
You don't have survival skills. You've been living in ivory tower the last 15, 20 years of your life.
Clarence Hill
I'm talking about before I got to ivory tower. I was a.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't been in no woods.
Clarence Hill
Council honor. Well, how you think. You can't be a Cub Scout without the woods. Uncle, what is you talking about? I was in the woods. Hey, matter of fact, you know where they filmed the Blair Witch Project? You ever saw that movie? Yeah, that's where I was at. That's where my Cub Scout Team was at. Listen, we had to deal with coyotes, bears, raccoons, all that. I was at it for like a month with the Cub Scout team. It was the team us. I was the Cub Scout leader. It was the team of 25. 25 US.
Shannon Sharpe
It's you by yourself. It ain't 25 of y' all. It's you by yourself.
Clarence Hill
Now, listen, based on what I learned as a Cub Scout, I can survive on my own.
Shannon Sharpe
I guarantee you done forgot everything you done learned.
Clarence Hill
Nah, absolutely not.
Ocho Cinco
They.
Shannon Sharpe
They.
Clarence Hill
Can you survive on Survivor the show? You think you do that.
Shannon Sharpe
But see, survival is about teaming up. It's about getting with the right people. It's about pairing. See, I'm looking at a situation Survivor. I starve your ass off the island. I catch fish, clean fish, eat fish myself. Right. I kill animal, clean animal, cook animal for myself. I ain't trying to partner with you. Oh, such and such was talking about you and start. Nah. If I got an issue, the one thing I do, if I got an issue with somebody, I don't recruit somebody else to have an issue with said person. That's me. And your issue is me and your issue. So that's how I look at it. So it's Survivor is like really team oriented.
Clarence Hill
Right, right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
It's kind of like big Brother, you know, Big brother is not. It's all about, you know, linking up with the right people and hoping they don't backstab you. Yeah, I just start your ass off the island.
Clarence Hill
Yeah, I could survive on my own. Could you survive on your own?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I could.
Clarence Hill
Why you think you can survive on your own? Because the way you grew up. Yes, my point exactly.
Shannon Sharpe
That's not how you grew up being a Cub Scout. You growing up. You were the cub scout a couple of weeks out of the year. I grew up in my environment for 20 years, every day of my life.
Clarence Hill
I'm a survivor. I'm at the school.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. You listen to the Destiny child song Survival. That's the only thing you survive.
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Shannon Sharpe
I feel, I, I, Me personally, I feel very comfortable that if I had to, I could survive. I can hunt. I could dig baits. I know, I know how. Yeah. Yes, I could.
Clarence Hill
But you not the only one do that. I, I mean, I did that too.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, you know what? I tell you what, what we should do is that we should get a YouTube. You go somewhere, I go somewhere, and we see who survive.
Clarence Hill
Oh, I'm definitely gonna survive. That's easy. See? Cause your stuff, your ank. Your ankles will be hurting, your knees gonna be hurting, your hips gonna be hurting.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna have a belly. All that be hurting. But I have a belly full. Your stuff healthy. And you starving. You think you skidded out your ass. Be looking like Skeletor when you get back.
Clarence Hill
How you start a fire? How you start a fire? I can start a fire. How you gonna start a fire?
Shannon Sharpe
Are you gonna do it with a flint?
Clarence Hill
No rocks. Go ahead.
Shannon Sharpe
But I'm saying you can have a flint. So let me ask you a question. So what are we taking? First of all, here's the thing. First of all, if you know, you going and you're gonna be going to the wilderness, you're gonna take certain things.
Clarence Hill
No, no, no, no. We not talk about that. We're not talking about that. We're putting you out there with nothing, and you have to survive on your own.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. That's not how it works. So you think. So you think people that just go in the wilderness, they just like, you know, okay, we just going. We going on the beach. Well, I'm not going to take flip flops when I'm know, I know. I'm not. I'm not taking an overcoat if I'm going to the beach. While the same token, I'm not wearing flip flops and shorts if I'm knowing I'm going to the wilderness. So you take things accordingly.
Clarence Hill
And see, if you're taking things accordingly, there's a good chance you're gonna survive because you're already prepared.
Shannon Sharpe
That's how most people do. They find like, you don't go to the. You think people that go. They don't have. They take water, Ocho.
Clarence Hill
Hey, what happened when you run out of water?
Shannon Sharpe
I'm a boil. Bring it to a boil.
Clarence Hill
Huh? You go, how you gonna boil the water?
Ocho Cinco
What do you mean, how.
Clarence Hill
So now you're gonna have a stove. Would you call it what you call mini. The mini thing you pack.
Ocho Cinco
You know.
Clarence Hill
I'm trying to say the boiling water. The boiling Water. The portable. The portable.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, Ocho, first of all, you take necessities. You don't take anything. I mean, like I said, you. You take only what you. What you. Because at the end of the day, Ocho, that is gonna get heavy. Nah, nah, nah, nah.
Clarence Hill
I'm good.
Ocho Cinco
I'm good.
Shannon Sharpe
I know I can, but we go a different place.
Clarence Hill
No. You know how I know you can't survive in a while by yourself? You ain't got no goddamn patience. You ain't got no patience. How you gonna survive?
Shannon Sharpe
Why? Why? See? Why you got patience? You waiting for something to happen. I'm gonna make something happen.
Clarence Hill
No, I'm gonna make something happen, too.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, Okay.
Clarence Hill
I gotta. I gotta.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey. All right, Ocho, we gonna get out here on this one. It's last as last save of the day. It's time for Q and A. So Nina said. Oh, where are you? Are you at a strip club? Yes.
Clarence Hill
Am I who? No, I'm at.
Shannon Sharpe
What?
Clarence Hill
I'm at work. No, this. Hey, this is not a strip club. And for everybody in the chat, it's not a strip club. This is Area 29. It's called Adult ballet. There's a difference. Yeah, this ain't this.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it's the same thing. Instead of saying a drug dealer, you're a street pharmacist. We get the idea.
Clarence Hill
No, no, no, no. This is. This is luxury. This ain't just. This ain't for the faint of heart. Now, this is matter of fact. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Well, who. Who just asked that question? Come here. One of y' all. Y' all, come here. Come here real quick. Please, please, please, please. Tell Nina this is Adult Valley. Hold on, hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
Hello, ladies. Oh, Lord have mercy. How you doing, ladies? How you doing? Welcome. Welcome to Nightcap. How you ladies doing tonight? Is business booming tonight? Okay, let me ask you a question. How's the food in Area 21? The food good. So if the team were to come, what do you recommend?
Clarence Hill
Queens?
Ocho Cinco
Hibachi, Rice.
Shannon Sharpe
Salmon. What do you recommend? Wings? Hibachi rice.
Clarence Hill
The pasta.
Shannon Sharpe
Salmon.
Clarence Hill
Rice.
Shannon Sharpe
So if you don't. If you don't mind me asking. The chat wants to know. Start left to right. Names, please.
Clarence Hill
Luxury.
Ocho Cinco
Virgo.
Clarence Hill
Chocolate Charlotte.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh. Oh, okay. Okay. Are you. Are you guys natives of Houston or you moved?
Ocho Cinco
I'm from Memphis, Tennessee.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Where are you from? In the middle, you're from. Where are you?
Ocho Cinco
Dominican.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Clarence Hill
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Columbia, Dominican and Tennessean. Okay. Well, thank you for hopping on with us. Ladies, say hello to Nightcap. All right. Chat, say hello to these Lovely ladies. Area 21. And if you're ever in Houston, make sure you stop by area 21. 29. Damn, my bad. I got 21. I can't see area 29. Well, thank you, ladies. Hey, make sure you subscribe to Nightcap. Thank you. Bye. Yeah, hey.
Clarence Hill
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
They say. They say the wings, the hibachi. Hibachi or sriracha rice. Right? I think somebody said something about pasta. I don't know about pasta. In a. In a. Yeah.
Clarence Hill
But hey, listen, we got everything up here. You know, I got. You know, I got the head security job up here two days ago. Yeah. So whenever you want to come by, whenever you want to come back, I mean, we'll take care of you. Pull out the red carpet.
Shannon Sharpe
I think I better lay low.
Clarence Hill
Nah, nah, hey, don't do that. Don't do that. You can't see me going laying low.
Shannon Sharpe
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Clarence Hill
That ain't happening.
Shannon Sharpe
Quinn said, minnesota cream soda, baking soda, OKC and six.
Clarence Hill
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
Devin jets said Timberwolves might be the ugliest team in NBA playoff history. I mean, you talk about the way they play or we talk about the way they play. The way they play, yes. I don't know. Trash talk. Tito said Unc. Ocho, question. What One old school rule or mindset that needs to come back? Respect.
Clarence Hill
And what, though?
Shannon Sharpe
I guess he's talking about sports.
Clarence Hill
But most of the time, players do respect each other. There's only been a few chords. You can count them damn near one hand.
Shannon Sharpe
Players don't respect authority, Ocho.
Clarence Hill
Oh, you said authority. I thought you meant each other.
Shannon Sharpe
That's why you have turnover so much like you have in the NBA and the NFL.
Clarence Hill
Oh, okay. I see what you're saying.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, uncle no show, what player didn't live up to the height but still had a solid career? And then what sport? That's.
Clarence Hill
That's a good question. And most of the time, the ones that didn't. That didn't. That didn't live up to the height. It came from injury.
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
Clarence Hill
Injury. For a lot of players that were hyped up, you know, coming out of college, I'm trying to think who. Anybody you name. I guarantee you injury derailed that.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm trying to think of the football player that had hype. When I think of a solid career, Ocho, I'm saying you played five, six, seven years. I ain't say, you know, you delivered to the height and you played one or two years and you were Gone. I'm trying to think. Damn, man. Oh, Cardi, that's a good question. I can't think off the top of my head. Yeah. Reggie Bush. Reggie.
Clarence Hill
Reggie had a good year, a good career.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what I'm saying. But we thought Reggie was going to be Barry Sanders, considering what he was. Think about what he was at usc.
Clarence Hill
Oh, what he was in college. Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my goodness. He had a very solid career. Won a sumo played outstanding way to the Rams. Excuse. Not Rams, the Dolphins. Detroit. I think he had a thousand yard season with Detroit. Yeah, Yeah, I like that. I like Reggie Bush. I like that. I like that one. No, chill, Will. Uncle no, Cho. You guys are late night legends. Question for you. What player did you hate until he played on your team?
Clarence Hill
Damn, I ain't hating nobody. Boy. That's a. That's a good question. I ain't really.
Ocho Cinco
I ain't hating.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm trying to say who played on my team. The only guy. But I never really did play against Romo. Romo was at the 49ers. We didn't play him. We played against him once when he was at Philly. But being around him. Bill Romanowski. Romo. Oh, yeah, the original Romo. But being around him and seeing how hard he worked and then seeing that, how he prepared for his craft, you have an appreciation. I'm trying to think. The guy that I had the problem we had the most fun with was probably Seth Joyner. Seth played at. He played at Philly. Had his best years were at Philly. He played a couple of years at Green Bay and then he joined us. Man, he was great. Man. I love Seth. Seth was unbelievable. Sergey said, my guy, what is your biggest what if moment in the NFL? Mind if. What if Russell had never threw that ball on the goal line against the Super Bowl? In the super bowl against the Patriots. Yep.
Clarence Hill
Oh, what if Carson Palmer never got hurt in that 2005 playoff game against the Pittsburgh Steelers?
Shannon Sharpe
Instead of losing 35, 7. Y' all probably lose 35. 17.
Clarence Hill
Boy, we winning that game.
Shannon Sharpe
What if Jackie Smith had caught that touchdown pass from Roger Stallback against the Steelers that year? Let's go.
Ocho Cinco
Recently.
Clarence Hill
What if the Baltimore Raiders.
Shannon Sharpe
What if there was no Tuck rule? That might have been the biggest because that started the greatest dining in NSF history.
Clarence Hill
Yeah, sure did.
Shannon Sharpe
What if Drew Bledsoe doesn't get.
Clarence Hill
That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one.
Shannon Sharpe
Smack the halftime. Hey, Uncle Nocho, I got something different. Headline feature Skip Nas Okay, Skip, Nas, Kendra, Lamar, Andre, 3,000. Oh, yo, so he said for headline for feature skipped. Damn.
Clarence Hill
Wait, who is it again? I heard 2000.
Shannon Sharpe
Nas, Kendrick Lamar. Ooh wee.
Clarence Hill
And that's tough, boy. Hey, I'm gonna let you answer that one for me.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna go three stacks. The headline.
Clarence Hill
I was gonna say it.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna go Nas for the feature.
Clarence Hill
Damn. You gonna skip?
Shannon Sharpe
I got no choice. Three stacks from the crib and Nas, man, come on now.
Clarence Hill
Yeah, you're right.
Shannon Sharpe
Ill managed. Come on, bro. Nah, I ain't. I ain't. Nah. Hey, three stacks and knobs ain't going nowhere. And I like, hey, Kendrick Zumba. Hey, I love Kendrick with Imagine. Dragon love and stuff. Nope.
Clarence Hill
I got one. What if I never tried to. What if I never tried to blindside Ray Lewis? I just saw that in the chat. That's a good one.
Shannon Sharpe
What if you'd have been my teammate?
Clarence Hill
I would have three rings woulda top.
Shannon Sharpe
Five receiver all the time, too.
Clarence Hill
Yeah, I'm top five right now.
Shannon Sharpe
That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for joining us. The Oklahoma City Thunder take a 10 lead over the Minnesota Timberwolves in the Western Conference finals thanks to a 11488 victory over the Timberwolves. Shay Gilgis, 31 points. Jalen Williams had 19, Hartenstein had 12. Chet had 15 as they rolled 114 to 88 over the Minnesota Timberwolves. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know me. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host, Liberty City's own bingo ring of Fame honoree, Pro Bowler. Hey, he gonna get that work in. That's one thing about Ocho. He gonna get his work in. No matter where he has to be, he gonna do the work. Special shout out to Nick Van Exel for joining us tonight. The All Star, the 13 year NBA player breaking down this game tonight. Nick, appreciate that continued success and like I said, when you get a few moments, stop back by with us. Please make sure you hit the subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like, button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from. I want to thank you personally for supporting Nightcap. Ocho and I and everybody included at Nightcap realize that it's because of you that we're able to do what we do. And you've shown your loyalty and your devotion for the first two years and we greatly, greatly appreciate that support and hopefully that'll continue. Please make sure you check out Shave by La Portier. We do have it in stock and if you can't find it any city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. It is the best tasting VSOP Premium Cognac on the market. Try it. You will not be disappointed. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Follow my media company page on all of its platforms. That's Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, eighty four. With eighty four being spelled out, the link is pinned in the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone, they're gone. So please grab yours while supplies last. Again, the Thunder 10 lead in the Western Conference finals thanks to a 26 point victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves 114 to 88. I'm Unk. He's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow after the Knicks take on the Indiana Pacers.
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Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay – Nightcap - Hour 2: Caitlin Clark Poised for MVP Season + NFL Allows Participation in Olympic Flag Football
Release Date: May 21, 2025
Introduction
In this episode of "Club Shay Shay," NFL legend Shannon Sharpe hosts a dynamic conversation alongside co-hosts Nick Van Exel (Ocho Cinco) and Clarence Hill. The discussion centers around two major topics: the rising star in women's basketball, Caitlin Clark, and the NFL's groundbreaking decision to allow players to participate in Olympic flag football. The hosts delve into Caitlin Clark's impressive performance, the growth of the WNBA, and the implications of NFL involvement in the Olympics.
Caitlin Clark's MVP Season Prospects
The conversation kicks off with an in-depth analysis of Caitlin Clark's remarkable achievements in the WNBA. Despite a relatively short career spanning just one year and two games, Clark has already set records for the most 25-point, 10-assist (25-10) games in WNBA history, totaling six such performances. Nick Van Exel praises her versatility and resilience, stating:
"What is it about Caitlin Clark that makes us so polarizing?" – Shannon Sharpe [02:24]
Ocho Cinco responds by highlighting Clark's exceptional range and ability to manipulate defenses:
“Her range is crazy. So now the defense gotta pick her up higher on the court... she plays at her own pace.” – Ocho Cinco [03:52]
Shannon emphasizes Clark's multifaceted skills, comparing her potential impact to that of NBA stars like Trae Young:
“Caitlin Clark has that exact ability. She can go get you a 20-10, a 30-15 game...” – Shannon Sharpe [08:03]
The hosts discuss the polarizing nature of Clark's performance, attributing it to her non-traditional size for a guard and her ability to create opportunities both for herself and her teammates. They draw parallels to legends like Magic Johnson and Larry Bird, arguing that Clark's early success should not be downplayed due to her stature.
WNBA Growth and Player Respect
The discussion shifts to the broader landscape of the WNBA, noting the increasing popularity and fan engagement driven by players like Caitlin Clark. Shannon Sharpe remarks on her widespread acclaim and the positive reception at All-Star games:
“She got an ovation that rivals Asia Wilson.” – Shannon Sharpe [10:42]
Ocho Cinco draws comparisons between Clark and former NBA icons like Allen Iverson, emphasizing her immediate impact and the respect she garners within the league:
“Caitlin Clark got that same effect right now in the WNBA and she's bringing eyeballs and sponsors...” – Ocho Cinco [11:29]
The hosts celebrate the advancements in the WNBA, highlighting the potential for increased salaries and national broadcasting of games, which are poised to enhance the league's visibility and financial stability.
NFL's Participation in Olympic Flag Football
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the NFL's recent resolution to allow its players to compete in Olympic flag football during the 2028 Summer Olympics. Shannon Sharpe outlines the proposed team structure and rules, expressing enthusiasm for this innovative integration:
“NFL owners have now officially approved a resolution to allow their players to participate in flag football in the 2028 Summer Olympics.” – Shannon Sharpe [26:12]
Clarence Hill and Ocho Cinco debate the practicality and excitement of NFL players adapting to the flag football format, discussing potential team rosters and the strategic differences from traditional football. They humorously engage in a hypothetical team selection exercise, showcasing their sports knowledge and camaraderie.
Hypothetical Flag Football Team Selection
Shannon Sharpe and Clarence Hill engage in a playful yet insightful exercise of selecting a 10-man flag football team from current NFL stars. They consider players' versatility, speed, and ability to adapt to the unique rules of the Olympic format. Notable selections include Lamar Jackson as quarterback and Justin Jefferson as a wide receiver, demonstrating their strategic thinking and understanding of player strengths.
“He can handle the ball like she handles, shoot the ball from the three like she does...” – Shannon Sharpe [08:03]
Personal Anecdotes and Stories from Hosts
The episode features personal stories and anecdotes, adding depth and relatability to the discussion. Ocho Cinco shares a memorable one-on-one basketball game with Kobe Bryant, illustrating Kobe's exceptional skills and competitive spirit:
“Kobe had better handles than me... 'I'm about to dunk on this fool.'" – Ocho Cinco [17:08]
Shannon Sharpe recounts experiences from the WNBA and his interactions with players, reinforcing the theme of respect and admiration for emerging talents like Caitlin Clark.
Audience Interaction and Q&A
Towards the end of the episode, the hosts engage with their audience through a Q&A segment, addressing questions about survival skills and hypothetical scenarios. This segment blends humor with insightful commentary, showcasing the hosts' personalities and rapport.
Closing Remarks
In closing, Shannon Sharpe reflects on the significant developments discussed, particularly the promising future of the WNBA and the exciting prospects of NFL players joining Olympic flag football. He thanks guests like Nick Van Exel and encourages listeners to subscribe and engage with their content.
“Thank you for supporting Nightcap. We greatly appreciate your loyalty and devotion...” – Shannon Sharpe [80:08]
The episode concludes with announcers promoting upcoming games and thanking sponsors, maintaining the engaging and informative tone established throughout the discussion.
Notable Quotes
Conclusion
This episode of "Club Shay Shay" offers a comprehensive and engaging exploration of Caitlin Clark's burgeoning career and the NFL's strategic move into Olympic flag football. Through insightful analysis, personal anecdotes, and lively discussions, Shannon Sharpe and his co-hosts provide listeners with valuable perspectives on the evolving landscapes of both women's basketball and professional football.