Nightcap - Hour 2: Caleb Williams Expectations + Shedeur Thriving in Browns Crowded QB Room

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 2 Summary

Release Date: May 24, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, hosted by NFL legend Shannon Sharpe alongside Cedric Maxwell and Tyrese Halliburton, the discussion centers around the rising expectations for Caleb Williams and the dynamics within the Cleveland Browns' crowded quarterback room. The hosts delve deep into the challenges and opportunities facing these athletes, providing insightful analysis and personal anecdotes that resonate with both sports enthusiasts and casual listeners.

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Caleb Williams: Expectations for 2025

Timestamp: 31:38

Tyrese Halliburton kicks off the discussion by expressing high expectations for Caleb Williams in the upcoming season. He highlights Williams' exceptional athleticism and dual-threat capabilities, emphasizing the positive impact of new coaching strategies under Ben Johnson.

• Halliburton on Williams' Potential:

  "I absolutely do expect big things from Caleb Williams. Understanding how good he is already. Tremendous athleticism. He has a very strong arm and he's a dual-threat quarterback." (31:38)

Cedric Maxwell concurs, adding that adjustments made to Williams' mechanics, such as his stance and foot positioning, are strategic moves to enhance his performance in the quick game and overall offensive posture.

• Maxwell on Coaching Adjustments:

  "Ben Johnson said, 'I've done it a number of ways in my time in the league, and really over the last few years, I kind of gravitated towards that.'" (33:02)

Despite some skepticism from fans regarding Williams' commitment to the Chicago Bears, both hosts remain optimistic. They argue that external opinions and personal choices should not overshadow Williams' professional capabilities and the supportive environment provided by his team.

• Maxwell on Public Perception:

  "But I think Caleb realized that they're in a great situation. He had a great offensive mind coming in, a great head coach, a coach that's going to be working lockstep with him." (32:54)

Shedeur Jackson Jr.: Thriving in a Crowded QB Room

Timestamp: 21:08

Transitioning to the Cleveland Browns, the conversation shifts to Shedeur Jackson Jr. and the competitive nature of the team's quarterback room. Cedric Maxwell provides an in-depth analysis of the positive dynamics fostered by Coach Shador Sanders, emphasizing unity and mutual respect among quarterbacks.

• Maxwell on Team Vibe:

  "Shador said the vibe in the QB room is positive. Everybody's cool outside the room. People try to pit us against each other, but inside the room we know we're one." (21:08)

Tyrese Halliburton adds that the presence of experienced players like Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett contributes to a supportive environment where emerging talents like Shedeur can thrive without unnecessary pressure.

• Halliburton on Team Dynamics:

  "They know they're one. There's only one quarterback that can play at a time, but we're not trying to sabotage it." (22:22)

The hosts delve into the importance of preparation and seizing opportunities, drawing parallels to historical NFL figures like Tom Brady. They stress that success hinges on being ready when the chance arises, a philosophy that both Williams and Jackson embody.

• Maxwell on Opportunity and Preparation:

  "Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." (24:59)

Challenges Faced by Athletes

Timestamp: 16:42

A poignant part of the discussion addresses the emotional and psychological challenges athletes face, regardless of their financial status. Maxwell underscores that money doesn't eliminate personal struggles, emphasizing the importance of mental health and accountability.

• Maxwell on Emotional Challenges:

  "Money does not absolve you from problems that impact people that don't have money." (16:42)

Halliburton echoes this sentiment, highlighting that athletes are not exempt from experiencing hurt, anger, frustration, and anxiety despite their earnings.

• Halliburton on Emotional Resilience:

  "You make 200 million, you make 300 million. You're supposed to be devoid of those now. It just doesn't." (16:54)

Team Strategies and Future Outlook

Timestamp: 33:01

The conversation further explores team strategies, particularly focusing on the Bears' offensive line enhancements and the potential impact on both offensive and defensive performances. Maxwell praises recent signings and drafts that bolster the team's offensive capabilities, setting the stage for a more balanced and effective performance.

• Maxwell on Bears' Offensive Improvements:

  "They revamped his offensive line. They signed Joe Thuney... They've done a great job." (33:02)

Halliburton remains enthusiastic about the Bears' prospects, projecting a significant leap forward in their performance and competitiveness within the division.

• Halliburton on Bears' Potential:

  "I think the Bears might be that team that takes that leap this year that surprises everybody." (35:03)

Fan Engagement and Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with lighthearted interactions and fan questions, blending humor with sports analysis. The hosts maintain an engaging and relatable tone, ensuring that listeners feel connected and informed.

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Notable Quotes

1. Tyrese Halliburton on Caleb Williams:

   "I absolutely do expect big things from Caleb Williams." (31:38)

2. Cedric Maxwell on Team Unity:

   "Shador said the vibe in the QB room is positive. Everybody's cool outside the room." (21:08)

3. Maxwell on Emotional Resilience:

   "Money does not absolve you from problems that impact people that don't have money." (16:42)

4. Halliburton on Team Potential:

   "I think the Bears might be that team that takes that leap this year that surprises everybody." (35:03)

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Conclusion

This episode of Club Shay Shay offers a comprehensive exploration of Caleb Williams' promising trajectory and Shedeur Jackson Jr.'s integration into a competitive quarterback environment. Through expert analysis and candid conversations, Shannon Sharpe, Cedric Maxwell, and Tyrese Halliburton provide listeners with valuable insights into the evolving landscape of NFL leadership and team dynamics. The hosts' blend of professional expertise and personal camaraderie makes for an engaging and informative listen, perfect for fans eager to stay ahead of the game.

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Note: This summary excludes all advertisement segments and focuses solely on the content-driven discussions between the hosts.

Transcript

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[Cedric Maxwell]

O Joe Mosin Malone Michael Malone, called SGA a file artist, says it's almost impossible to stop him. Malone noted that SGA's ability to draw file a put defenders in a tough situation when they attempt to get physical with him. You got to be ultra disciplined. It's almost impossible. A lot of times offensive player like Shay will initiate the contact, will hook his arm looking like draw, draw, contact. He's a foul artist.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

And listen, that's a part of the game.

[Cedric Maxwell]

That's a part of really good. When James Harden could do it.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

James obviously conversation. James Harden was good at it. Embiid Dwyane Wade when he played, remember? Yeah, he'll pump you and get you to jump in there and jump into you. I mean there are many players that are able to manipulate the game and use the rules to their advantage. Offensively, it's all about discipline, understanding who you're playing and being sound and tech and being technically sound on your end. When you play a defense on those said players, I mean, it's pretty easy. I'm pretty easy. I'm just saying. Based when you're playing those type of players like sga, you already know. You already know what to do.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Right? He's bigger than you think. He's more physical than you think. He's got a midi. He's not really reliant on any particular. Pretty particular shot you. Yeah, he has three point range, but he's not going to live and die by it. He can get to the fight, he can get to the mid range. A lot of times he's not already trying to get to the basket. He's just trying to create separation now when he tries to go to the basket. Yeah, he's trying to initiate contract. Either get a foul or. Or get an A and 1. But hey, they're calling it and plus he's small, man. How many shot foul shots do you think a game Shaq should have shot? Whoa, 20.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Easily.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Easily. I mean people getting having two and three centers, three and four centers on their team because he know he was gonna file two of them out. So we got 24 fouls tonight, guys. Let's use them up. Tyrese Halliburton admitted his limited role on the US team in the 2024 Summer Olympics impacted him more than he initially led on. Halleck called it an ego check when recalling the fact that he helped that he played only 26 total minutes in Paris, which is the fewest of any player on Team usa. In reference to the jokes being made about the lack of participation on social media, Halliburton remember thinking, I'm getting clown. How do I respond? Halliburton's first instinct was to play along. He's, like, made humorous posts on Twitter about winning a gold medal despite not contributing to the group project. However, Halliburton said deep down, he was motivated to prove his detractors wrong. Saying, when the season starts, I'm like, I'm going to go now. I'm going to get y' all back. I'm going to get at y' all. Excuse me.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

I like. And he doing just that.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Oh, Joan. I try to tell people, and people just want to. Oh, no, right. Greater the person is, the bigger his ego is.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

You're talking about a guy that's in the NBA. He's been an all star, and you said, oh, he should just be happy. I mean, no. Even though Jayson Tatum said, hey, I'm. Blah, blah, blah. Can you imagine? Jayson Tatum is more accomplished than Tyrese Halliburton. At the time, he was a three time first team all NBA selection. He had gone to the NBA champion. He'd gone to the NBA finals twice. He had won one. He was an Eastern Conference finals mvp. And he's that, like, true. Holiday is playing in front of him. Derrick White is playing in front of him.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

And y' all think I'm just telling how to. Human how to. As someone. That's. You and I have both been successful at a particular sport. We're successful in this.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

You're competitive.

[Cedric Maxwell]

We're competitive. Absolutely. And it's one thing. Cause I can't control it, Ocho. I mean, okay, if we go to. If we go. Let's just say we gonna say they gonna line up like 10 podcasts. Whoever. All everybody. 10 podcasts. Okay, we gonna go, Ocho. We gonna get to do our thing. No, no, no, no, no. Nightcap. Y' all hold on, hold on. Y' all gonna go tomorrow. Okay. Okay. Ocho. Ocho. That's all right. Ocho. We good. We good. Guess what? Tomorrow. This is what we gonna do, Ocho. Yeah, tomorrow come. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Y' all going Thursday now. Now, Ocho act ailing after I do this right here. I gotta sit up in my. Wait a damn minute. Now.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

What you mean? We not. We not. We not going. You letting everybody else go. Why we. Why did I come? Why did I sign on for this? I brought my team over here. And you mean to tell me we not gonna get to do a podcast? Oh, I tell you what. We'll let y' all do Spello, Cinco and dunk on Unc. That's it, man. Y' all keep this issue. You'll keep it a stack with you.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

So that's how. That's how they feel. So you talking about a guy. I understand, I understand. Like I said, the only three guys that didn't have to. Didn't have to go and make the team was Steph, KD and LeBron. Because many believed this was going to be their final Olympics. Now, who knows what's going to happen in three years? Steph could be playing at an extremely high level and wants to go again. Kevin Durant might wants to try to go get what? What do you got? Four gold medals. Might go. Try to go get five.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Five.

[Cedric Maxwell]

So he might try to get five. We don't know. But those guys were like, okay, ushering those guys. Now we got a new generation. The Jayson Tatum, the Ant man, Edwards X, Y and Z.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Right.

[Cedric Maxwell]

So I totally understand Tyreek Halle's frustration. Yeah, I'm glad. Hey, I remember my first Pro Bowl, Ocho. I'm just happy to be there, Ocho, man, you know, I'm like, damn, look at Dan Marino. Warren move. I'm like, damn. Okay. I see Bruce Smith and Junior say I and I got a DT and.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Like, oh, damn, look at this. I was like, ah, yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

I'm just happy to be there.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Oh, yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Now in my happiness to be there, y' all ain't gonna throw me no damn balls up over here. Ojo, I did not come all the way. I'm trying to think. It wasn't that far because I was already. I was already on the West Coast, Ocho, because that year, the Super Bowl, The super bowl was in Pasadena, right? Because the Cowboys beat the Bills. So I was already on the West Coast. So it's a five hour flight. Now I really felt some type of way I had to bring my ass from the east coast, which is a four plus hour flight, to get my black ass to California and then get on and fly on over there. Because at the time, I don't think Atlanta had that direct flight. Atlanta got a direct flight. Now I think it's a little over 10 hours to go directly to Hawaii.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Hallelujah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Yeah. So I was like, damn, I came all this way and then he told me that one ball. Hey, but y' all talking about a special team. I'll let him run it back. I might be blocked. Hey, hey, Ocho, they, I'll be blocking for him. Y' all better. Y' all better. Y' all better throw me a pass. Nah, you gotta tackle him. I'll be blocking.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Hey, but he shot at, man.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Man, come on, Joe. So I, I, I get guys frustration. I know the ultimate goal. And it's like he said, a science project where he got an A and he didn't participate. But he's making a lot of a situation. Sometimes you gotta laugh to stop from crying, Ocho.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

And you know, like I said and I appreciate that and I think Jayson Tatum, if Halle is feeling that way, I believe Jason Tatum is doubly upset.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah, absolutely. Hallie Burton had the chance to get the last laugh now. Yeah, you got the last laugh. So I'm sure he's having, he's having a ball right now, especially right now where, where he is, where they are at the team collectively and, and how he's doing himself.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Right.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Boy, if they make them damn finals.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Yeah, I bet. And I think, I think he's like, man, y' all can't find. Y' all could because what. How many games did play? 5 games. How many games they play in the Olympics? He said, man, I ain't got but 26 minutes. I'm playing less than six minutes a game. And it's not like they long minutes. There might be two minutes here, there might be 30 seconds there. They got me coming in, hey, they got me coming in, doing mop up duty. In and out, in and out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's tough. That's tough because that's, I mean, you got to think about it. I mean he's been a starter his whole year, so it's already different for him coming off the bench.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

And then now he's like, okay, y' all got six games. So he played six games. He played less than five minutes a game.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

But then also, you know, you have to understand the people that you're surrounding yourself by, the people that you're, you're that are playing in front of you. So.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Right.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

You might question yourself and then you, it's hard to question yourself when you understand, okay, look who's on the goddamn floor in front of me. There's only so much. Can I, can I really complain?

[Cedric Maxwell]

Yeah. He's like, hold on. He said, man, y' all got Holiday playing more minutes than me, but Holiday played his role. Holiday is a defensive stopper. Derrick White, he's a defensive guy. And you saw Book, Book Say, hey, I go, I play whatever they need. Y' all need me to just play defense? Because once Kobe said that template, Kobe said, hey, LeBron Melo, y' all do what y' all do. I got defense right now. You see everybody throw that up. Hey, man, Kobe came over. Kobe wasn't trying to score no part. Kobe played defense. And man said, well, I don't see no Kobe on this court. So I'm gonna need that rock. I will need the scoring sub, but I get it. Look, it's a huge honor to go represent your country. To win that gold medal, to be on that podium with two other teams. I think it was. Who was it? Serbia was the other team in France on that thing. France got the silver and I think Serbia, Jokic's team got the bronze medal. And to hear that star spangled, hear your national anthem being played, that is a huge honor. There's no great than playing for your country. You also rep. You representing your country, but you're representing yourself. You're representing your family. I'm sure all those guys had parents and sisters and brothers over there that was watching and, and to be in the Olympics because I'm sure everybody has watched the Olympics from the beginning of time. I remember, I think the, the first Olympics that I can remember, I vaguely remember Montreal in 76.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

You know, in 80, we boycotted the Soviet Games because of the, the invasion, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. They returned the favor in 84 when they were in LA. And then. But 84 is the Olympics that I vividly, vividly remember. I'm in high school, obviously. And then 88, they're in Seoul. 92, I'm in the league. As a matter of fact, Ocho, that was my first holdout year. So I'm like, I told my agent, hold up. I said, olympics, the living is about to start. Let's go like halfway through the living. Let me see this, See these races. Let me see some of these races. Limford Christie won the 100 meters that year. But anyway. But that's a huge accomplishment, Ocho. I mean, absolutely. To go and to see all those other countries and to be at the venues and the guys going to check out the swimming and they go into it and see track and field. I can just imagine if you played in the Olympics and you got an opportunity to see Usain Bolt run, or you got an opportunity to see Michael Phelps swim, or you get an opportunity to see Simone Biles do a. Whatever about that move that she got so many moves named after, I guess now, you know, you gotta. You go and you look for Katie Ledecky because she's the great American swimmer, Andrew Marshawn, the Frenchman. You know, you might want to watch him, but he's from another country. But to see Usain and to see Michael Phelps and to see some of these greats, that's what I be wanting to do.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Hey, get off your feet. I'm going to be on my feet.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

I'm going to watch everybody else.

[Cedric Maxwell]

I'm going to watch.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yes, everybody else.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Yes, me. But me, Ocho, you know what I like? I'm going to go watch. I'm going to go watch wrestling. I like weightlifting.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Right.

[Cedric Maxwell]

I'm going to go watch sports like that. Yeah. Yes. I would love to see the swimming and stuff. But. But the weightlifting and the wrestling count your boy. And that's where I'm going to be. That's. That's where I'm going to be. But. But I'm glad Halliburton said that, because a lot of times, Ocho, people think because you make a lot of money, you should have. So money does away with all your feelings, all your emotions. You're devoid of those now. Hurt, anger, frustration, anxiety. Straight you, man. You make 200 million, you make 300 million. You're supposed to be devoid of those now. All you do is have money to throw at things to make things better. You get better insurance. You got platinum insurance, and you got money to try to solve and resolve or fix problems. But it doesn't make you exempt from problems.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Guess what? If that was the case, there are all the people that got that money, they still be here. They'd be 3, 4, 5, 6, 700 years old. They'd be older than Methuselah. So clearly, money does not absolve you from things that happen to people in society. You might have a better mechanism in order to deal with, as far as therapists and people to talk and do and do certain things on Joe. But money does not absolve you from problems that impact people that doesn't have money. And I think people need to understand that. People think money, man. What problems?

[Tyrese Halliburton]

I don't think they would never understand it because of the amount of money that athletes make today. They feel if they were in that position, they would have no problems because they would right now is the money.

[Cedric Maxwell]

That's it.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

They feel that money will cure everything. They feel it will cure everything, and it just doesn't. Especially for athletes that have issues like not getting the minutes you want to play and having to joke about it at the goddamn Olympics. Well, how could you be upset if.

[Cedric Maxwell]

So and so, bro, you got 200 million bro. Because I have emotions. I'm not a robot. Therefore I'm. I haven't been programmed not to have, not to feel anger, not to feel frustration, not to be upset, not to be disappointed.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Right?

[Cedric Maxwell]

I'm not programmed. I'm. I'm a human being. I have a mind. I have a heart. And things upset people. Things cause people to get angry or frustrated. You get your heart broken. It happens. So I'm glad Hallie had shared those comments. And he's playing extremely well. You're definitely proving it. All those people that thought you were overrated. Keep it going.

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[Cedric Maxwell]

The Browns Crowded Quarterback Room OJO could make for some awkward moments, but that's not been the case according to Shador Sanders. Shador said the vibe in the QB room is positive. Everybody's cool outside the room. People try to pit us against each other, but inside the room we know we're one. We're all different characters. It's funny going in there seeing Joe every day. It's fun to see him because I like wow. I really mean Joe Flacco right now. We're on the same team. Then of course Kenny the experience he's been in the league with these two is cool and just see the process of it. And DeShawn of course he's active in there and he's all in the meeting so it's cool talking to him. Why so yes, only one quarterback can play. We understand that. So because only one quarterback. This isn't Hunger Games, you know. I mean I think that, you know, people think, I think sometimes don't your people try to pitch like it's a Hunger Games? Like you could have only one winner? Yes, there's only Going to be one guy that's going to be able to play at a time, but I'm not trying to sabotage it. I'mma go in there. Hopefully he can part, impart some wisdom. Joe Flacco's been in this thing a very, very long time. What is this year? 1718 for Joe.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Super bowl winning quarterback at that.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Yeah, got to be at least 17. I think 2009 was a rookie year. Two. Okay. So this year. So this is your 17, 18. Okay. Yeah. So, hey, hopefully I can get something from Joe. Kenny Pickett has been in the league for a while. I don't know if I'm gonna get too much from him, but, you know, hey, let's, let's. Let's see how it go. But man, so what. So, so what is. I'm just trying to figure out what it, what it's supposed to be. I understand. Ocho, when you, when you in a wide receiver room.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

I mean, y' all didn't. It wasn't a whole bunch of three wives. It was two wide receivers. Yeah. Everybody wanted to play. I'm not trying to sabotage anybody so I can play in front of them if you beat me out for the job. Ain't gonna happen, but wish you the best.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah, most definitely. And we, we know, we know what the pegging order is going to be. We know the pegging order is going to be based on what we saw from rookie camp after they got. After they got drafted. Listen, the eye test, it doesn't lie. And on the eye test, when you've seen the quarterbacks that came in their rookie year, you already know who's the best. You. You already know who it is. So Flacco is going to be the starter at some point. If Flacco's not playing well, Shador Santos. Shador Sanders will step in and be the quarterback in the future. Yeah, that's just how it's gonna know. It's how it always plays out every single time. Just not in this situation. In any situation. Maybe this one is a. A little bit. A little different because it is Shador. He was a fifth round pick. He's very, very well known and his last name is Sanders. But these things like this happen all the time. And it all plays out the same way.

[Cedric Maxwell]

The cream always rises to the top. It never settles on the bottom. And if Shador is what he believes he is and his supporters believe he is, when the opportunity presents himself, he'll get in there and he won't look back. Same thing would happen with Tom Brady, Tom Brady came as a six round draft pick. He really, he didn't play his rookie year and he was sitting the bench start of his sophomore year. Guy gets hurt, he goes in and he doesn't look back. Lou Gehrig was not starting at first base. Wally Pip was. And one day he had a headache. And guess what, Ocho, he never got back on first base again unless he was DHing. And I don't think they had the DH back then. So it happens. It's just when your opportunity, when the opportunity presents itself. That's what luck is. You know what luck is? When preparation meets opportunity.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Opportunity. Yeah. Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

If you're prepared. When the opportunity presents itself, doesn't matter whether it's in sports, whether it's in media. You know, people ask undisputed, well, how are you, bro? I just waiting for that opportunity. I was prepared. I prepared a lifetime.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

My knowledge of studying and going over stuff and watching sports very intently. You hear Cornbread say, man, damn, look how you breaking the game down. I wouldn't think you break it down like that. You a Laker fan, right?

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

But when you watch and you study knowing that an opportunity gonna present itself because see, you know, people don't plan to fail. They fail to plan, right? So all I'm doing is hoarding information, studying opportunity. It's gonna come, it's gonna happen. And when it does, be ready. We put this together, man, I think I could, I could do my own thing. I could do this. I just need somebody to do the bounce of lay. Hey, that's entertaining. Can bounce stuff off of, man. Don't you what you think about this, man? You gonna do it? I want to do it too.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Cedric Maxwell]

But the opportunity, a lot of times people get opportunity. Ah, man, they messed over me. No, you weren't prepared, you weren't ready, you weren't ready. And so, hey, now you gotta don't when things don't happen, don't blame somebody else.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah, I, I hate that.

[Cedric Maxwell]

What could you have done differently?

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

What could you have done better?

[Tyrese Halliburton]

And you know, you know what I also hate? Huh? Is when people know a situation, people know a situation is bad and they always find an excuse instead of doing what they need to do, instead of doing what's necessary to fix said situation, but blame everything else going on around them. I thought that that hurts me.

[Cedric Maxwell]

That hurts because it's easier to blame someone else than to blame yourself. Because if I were to put that on me, Ocho, that means that something about me is wrong. Who wants to admit that there's something wrong with them? Yeah, Accountability.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Be the first to raise my hand in situations a. I put Shannon. Shannon done this. Yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm big. I'm big on accountability.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Same if I up.

[Cedric Maxwell]

You got to own. You have to own up to it. You have to. That's the only way to. And look, it happens. Don't beat yourself up about it too much. Hey, you're gonna go through those emotions like, damn, really? But then, hey, pick yourself up. God is good and good and in bad. He's still God in good and in bad. So we will see what you're doing. I just want him to get in there and when he gets his opportunity, take the most of it. Ocho, a lot has been made about Sam Laporta's decreased production in the sophomore season with the lambs. LaPorta was targeted 120 times in 2023 and just 83 times in 2024.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Would they expect.

[Cedric Maxwell]

That's 37 fuel targets.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Well, thanks, but they expect uncle. You got Jameson Williams, you got a mount her on St. Brown, you got Jameer Gibbs, you got Dan Montgomery in the backfield. Well, obviously yummy.

[Cedric Maxwell]

You got the guy. What was the guy that came from? Came from Denver. I forget his name. He played. Yeah. So we saw his receiving yards and toast down totals saw a dip. Laporta defended himself against credit today using too many miles to feed in this argument.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Oh, there we go. Yes, he said it. I mean, you can see that from a mile away. But that's exciting.

[Cedric Maxwell]

So if so, I mean, look, when you got round say Brown catching over. So how many people you think they can. They can throw, they can catch 100. Pause. You put a lot of. I mean, yeah, Kelsey's numbers are down, but obviously you see other people numbers tick up. That's just the way it works. Yeah, I mean, so you want Auburn, Ross, Aiden Brown. I mean, how many kids he have? Like 110, 115. Okay, he get 115. Now you want Laporte to have what, 110? Let's just say you want him to have 90. Okay, how many Jameson William get? How many you gonna throw the Gibbs out of the backfield? I felt like I was still very polished receiver in the past game, but I keep hearing comments maybe like this offseason, like, why do you get the ball as much? It's like, dude, we score the most points of any team in the NFL in the last five years. Like, everybody deserves the ball. And I agree. I think I deserve the ball still. But I'm very pleased with how I blocked last year in the run game. See. See how they try to pit you against your teammates?

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Oh, why you didn't get the ball? So that means if I. Yeah, I should. Yeah, they should be throwing me the ball. Yeah. I understand he had this. But they need to get me to rock you see how they try to do that on Joe. Always winning ain't enough. I feel bad for you guys because it seemed like me, some of y' all had him on your fantasy team.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

That's probably what it was right there.

[Cedric Maxwell]

That's what it seemed like to me.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

I'd have been not getting the ball, worried about that goddamn fantasy. You know what?

[Cedric Maxwell]

The fantasy or they parlay or the fantasy and parlay, though, everybody. Damn, my. You messed my parlay up. Yeah, well, I don't know to tell you. I ain't messed my game up. We won. That's all. That's all I really care about. All that other stuff ain't nothing. I gonna break me off. So when y' all break me up when I scored three touchdowns and have 100 yards, y' all, listen. Hey, man. Man, you want my fantasy puppy today? You won my parlay. Let me break you off something.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Send me a little check.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Yeah, all you do is. Hey, man, I remember that time you won me my fantasy league. Okay, let me get something there. Oh, man, you. You want. Yeah, yeah, you told me that's what I did.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yes, right.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Chicago Bears head coach Ben Johnson is already tweaking Caleb Williams mechanic issues. The second year quarterback has adjusted his stance and his keep his left foot forward before the snap. Ben Johnson said, I've done it a number of ways in my time in the league, and really over the last few years, I kind of gravitated towards that. It's something that I feel pretty strongly about. He and I talked about it, the reason why we want to do it. I think it helps out certainly with the quick game from the gun, and it helps us being a little bit better of throwing a posture for like a lot of other things that we're asking him to do. Ojo, do you like this? And do you expect big things from Caleb Williams in 2025?

[Tyrese Halliburton]

I absolutely do expect big things from Caleb Williams. Understanding how good he is already. Tremendous, tremendous athlet athleticism. He has a very strong arm and he's a dual threat quarterback. With the addition of Ben Johnson and the creativity that he's able to bring to that offense and what Caleb can do, I think it's going to be that much better for them. Offensively. I'm excited. I'm excited for him. The little twists and nuances that he's changing in Caleb's game is really interesting. Probably allowing Caleb to get to and drops a little fast and being able to process information a little faster, especially in the quick game. And I think it's going to help him in the long run. People that might not like Kayden Williams for personal reasons based on what he likes to do and enjoy off the field. I think.

[Cedric Maxwell]

No, I think. I think it's because of what he said. How and his dad said they didn't want to go to Chicago. I think people are still holding that against him.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah, well, that just came out before they even came out. Just some of the things he did with his AFC and some of the, you know, the painting, the nails. I mean, listen, just personal stuff like that, outside of what just came out, I think they're gonna be all right. I think they're gonna be all right simply because of not only the supporting cast he has around, but getting a coach, a winning coach like Ben Johnson there is gonna. It's gonna do wonders for him.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Hell, if it's gonna help us win more games, hell, I pay for it to get a painting. I pay for him to get a manicure.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Right.

[Cedric Maxwell]

All I'm trying to do is win game. I don't. Man, I don't care about what somebody else do. That ain't got nothing to do with me. Oo him painting his nail, painting his toenails. Yeah, he want to dye his hair pink, green, blue, have a blonde. I don't give a d. You a football player. You the quarterback of this team. Distribute the football.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

That's it. That's all.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Have more positive than negative. And we good. All that other stuff, man, I'm telling you, guys don't care. Guys want to win. So what somebody do in their spare.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Time is on them. My hands.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Why care?

[Tyrese Halliburton]

You right.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Hey, just be a good teammate.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

That's it.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Let's come in here. Hey, it work where you from, what you did? Okay. That's why it's so hard to win a championship in football because you got so many guys from so many different backgrounds and you asking them to do one thing, come together and make a fabulous dish. That's. That's what you're asking. But I think Caleb. I think Caleb is going to be. Do really well. They revamped his offensive line. They signed Joe Thuney they got the guy from, they got a guy from the center from the Falcons. I think they got a offensive lineman from the Chargers. They've done a great job. You know Roman Doomsday, DJ Moore, they got the tight end drafted him first in the first round from Michigan pairing with Cole commit. They got a nice running game like defensive they're going to be, they're going to be good. Offensively, they're going to be much better. So with the offense being much better, I think, you know, you take some of the pressure off the defense and the best one. Sometimes the best way to help a defense that's not very good is to keep their ass off the field. Offense, you stay on the field for an extended period of time and we don't let them get on the field because bad things happen when they get on the field. But I think Caleb Williams is going to be really, really good this year. I think go ahead Ocho.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

And I'm getting ready to say he's going to take a huge leap.

[Cedric Maxwell]

I think so too.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Huge leap and going to surprise a lot of people. Every year there's always a team and to me I think the Bears might be that team every year the same teams are always in contention, always in contention. I understand the division they playing packers.

[Cedric Maxwell]

You know, I understand Packers, Lions in the bikes.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

I understand that. But I think they're going to be that team that takes that leap this year that surprises everybody.

[Cedric Maxwell]

I think the thing is Ocho, they're going to have to in order for them to make the playoffs. You got the Lions, you got the packers, you got the Vikes, the Lions, what, lost what one game, maybe two games. The Vikings lost what, two games, maybe three games. The packers were 10 and seven. So you're looking to probably have to go 10 and seven, 11 and six just to make the playoffs. The Lions might take a step back but from the offensive play calling situation, but I think they're going to be just as Good. Are they 15? Are they going to be 15 and 2? Maybe not, maybe not. But it's hard for see them stepping off a cliff and all of a sudden they win 15 games and drop down to 10. I think they get some of those guys on the defensive side back healthy offensively, they still going to be able to put up points. Jameer Gibbs is special. Armin Ross, St. Brown, Jameson Williams, Brian.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

That Brian Branch, bro. Hey, he is the real deal.

[Cedric Maxwell]

They got Joseph at like I said, they just need to get some of those guys that was injured last year get Those guys back healthy. Get those guys back healthy.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Coming back.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Hutchinson, I just read. I think he's. He's been cleared. He's a full goal now. I think the big d tackle of McNeil, I think he got injured. He should be able to go. One of the linebackers got injured. He should be able to go. You know, they had a lot of guys on injured reserve last year. You know, we're not going to make an excuse to give Washington credit. Washington went in there, took it to him, they scored. They did a great job of taking the ball away from Jerry Goff. The one thing that, you know, we know about golf, he has the ability to throw you five touchdowns, but he can throw five interceptions, too. And, you know, he had. He picked the worst time to have probably his worst game. His second worst game of the season.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Now the worst game was when he had in Houston. He threw five picks and they still won the game. Yeah, but this one, those turnovers, they didn't win the game. Yeah. But I definitely think Caleb Williams is going to have to take a huge step forward. I think he's going to take a huge step forward. You talk about a guy that have great improvisational skill, arm slots in which he could throw the ball from the three quarters to side to over the top. He can get the ball that quick and, you know, he's changing his motion because sometimes we just want to, hey, hey. Just up and throw the football, basically get a grip and let it grip nice. So I'm anxious to see. I want him to do extremely well. I don't have a problem with what his dad did. His dad tried to put him in the best situation possible. He didn't think Chicago was the best situation possible. But I think Caleb realized that they're in a great situation. He had a great offensive mind coming in, a great head coach, coach that's going to be working lockstep with him. He can't ask for anything more than that, Ocho. Just an opportunity to get coached really, really well, really good players around him. Now you just go do your job. I believe that's what he's going to do. I believe. I absolutely believe that's what he's going to do. You don't have the kind of production that he had at usc. And you saw the flashes. You saw the flashes last year of what he can be.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Mm.

[Cedric Maxwell]

As a matter of fact, on Thanksgiving, they was down real bad. Real bad now, you know, situation. There was some miscommunication about, do we spike the ball or they let A lot of time run off it and stuff like that and he ended up getting sacked. But a lot of stuff that you chalk up as a rookie and, but I don't think you see, I don't think we see those same mistakes this year. I'm excited to see what, what the future holds for this young man because I think he can be special. He's going to have to be because look at the quarterbacks in that division. Look at the teams in that division. Yeah, and I'm sure Bear fans like, man, I want to make the playoffs, I want a chance to compete for a Super bowl. And I believe he gives them the opportunity. We'll see what they're going to be overall as a team, especially when it comes to the defensive side because we see the improvement from a head coach standpoint from the offensive line. What they've redone that. Now it's going to come down to defensively, are they going to be able to stop people? They got some good players back there. So I'm anxious to see what the Bears can do on this one. It's going to be a, a, a Bears, Bears going, hey, I think they're going to surprise the people oo I think they're gonna put some points on the board. I think they're going to really surprise some people. Which of these teams will break their long awaited first Super bowl win? The Cardinals. It's been 78 years. They last played in the 1978. 47. No. 1947 NFL championship. Number two. The Lions, 68 years. 1957. Vikings 64 years. They joined the NFL in 1961. Browns 60 years. 1964 NFL championship. Falcons 59 years. They joined the NFL in 1966. Their first overall draft pick, number one, the man in the middle, Tommy Novis. Buffalo Bills 59 years. They joined the NFL In 1966. The Chargers 59 years. They joined 1966. AFL. No, they came in AFL started in 1960 if I'm not mistaken. Tennessee Titans, 59 years. They joined 1966. The Bengals joined the NFL. 1968. Jess, 56 years. Super Bowl 3, 1969. Of those teams, Ocho, who's getting that championship this year?

[Tyrese Halliburton]

I mean. I mean. Oh, this year. I don't know. I mean in the coming years, the closest two teams that everybody that you name that actually have a chance, a realistic chance at winning the championship are the Bills and the Bengals. Honestly. And it's simply because of the quarterbacks at the helm. I mean if we being honest, everybody that you just ran down. They have their best chance winning a championship at some point in the next five to seven years. Everyone else.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Tennessee, Tennessee, y' all ain't gonna get nothing. Jets. Ah, Falcons. E. Brown.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Ooh, no, no. That Cardinals. No. And this is no disrespect to those teams, but I'm saying the make makeup and, and it's just, it's not happening. The Bills, I can see it. The Bengals, I can see it. You know, there's certain things we, I mean obviously the Bengals need to do, starting early, starting fast, early in the season if they could. They've already been to a Super Bowl. They just didn't goddamn win it. So they can damn sure get back. The Bills are right there. They're on the cusp of being there. So as long as, as long as Josh Allen is there, they will be back again in contention every goddamn year.

[Ryan]

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[Cedric Maxwell]

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[Tyrese Halliburton]

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[Cedric Maxwell]

I got it. No, I got it. Seriously, I got it. I insisted first.

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[Tyrese Halliburton]

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[Ryan]

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[Cedric Maxwell]

The Wells Fargo active cash credit card. Visit Wells Fargo.com ActiveCash terms apply. A bunch of reports surfaced today of Joe Milton dazzling in Cowboys practice. Joe Milton freakish talents reportedly left his new teammates and coaches stunned. Despite no pads at recent Cowboys practices. One NFL scout reportedly believes Milton has the most live arm of any nf. Of any quarterback in the NFL and has a chance to flourish in the Cowboys QB room. Brian Schottenheimer is reportedly all in on Milton and believes the sky's the limit for Milton in the league. Since joining the Cowboys, Milton has reportedly been the hardest worker, being the first one in the building and one of the last ones out on multiple occasions. Milton has reportedly already made some eye opening throws. Eye opening plays. Excuse me. Including including an incredible throws and a 20 yard scramble. Oh, Joe. Is Jerry putting these reports out? Is he the one that just got this back tattoo? Just went under anesthesia and got this tattoo? I think he just got a tattoo.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

It's a few players that did it too, this offseason. It's a few of them.

[Cedric Maxwell]

I think he just got a back tattoo of size. He got some kind of torso.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Ooh, that. I'm hurt. Ooh, I'm hurting thinking about that. Ocho. Thank you.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Hey, hey, listen. Even Jerry is putting these reports out. These reports mean nothing. You know, going against yourself in helmets and shorts. Nothing. Having a live arm is a good attribute to have, but it's so much more than playing the quarterback position. You know, I, I like, I like him in general, but there's, there's so much more to the game itself outside of what they're seeing in shorts and helmets to, to be a Quarterback, especially playing in a pressure situation if you're the starter for that goddamn team that wears a star on his helmet. So I mean, they need to slow down a little bit. But with, with the reports and the, the excitement and the flashes of, of what you're seeing against yourselves. Because it means nothing when those bullets are firing for real on a Sunday at 1 o' clock.

[Cedric Maxwell]

I mean, he showed. Where was he at last year? Wasn't he in? Where was he? New England. And he showed some flashes, Ocho running around, throwing the ball on the move. And I think he is going to have some better offensive talent now. I'm not saying he going to beat Dak out. He ain't beating Dak out. You got $60 million. You're not fitting to put a $60 million. I don't care if Joe Milton can look like Patrick Mahomes in his second year. He said you're in NFL where he threw it 55, 5000 yards and 50 touchdowns. You ain't putting no 60 million dollar quarterback on the bench. So maybe that gives Jerry cause to pause on maybe extending. But I don't see a scenario where Milton, Milton beat. Beat Dak out. What? Yeah.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

That was fun.

[Cedric Maxwell]

All right, Ocho, we're gonna get you out on this one. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Nick Gale. So cornbread Maxwell equals MVP. Yes. The number 12 pick out of UNC Charlotte 1981 Finals MVP. When they beat the. They beat the Houston Rockets. 42. Danny Little John, UNC Steven A, Spike Lee are losing their mind. They are, they are. They are. They are. I know. Spike Sick. Stephen. A sick Spike. Just sicker.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Hey, I hope they can do something. I'm not sure what they can do.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Many gotta get game. Three is an absolute must though. Joe.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah, strange.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Three is an absolute must. Gold standard says Jordan is the goat. And UNC knows it. Jordan the only goat. Jordan didn't have to say he was the goat, it was just a fact. But non goat. LeBron and his simp say LeBron is the goat. I mean, first of all, people declared Jordan the goat when he had no rings. Go back and look at when they look at Sports Illustrated when they said this is the greatest basketball player ever. He had no rings. He had never even been to an NBA finals. So what made him to go.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Ballot play, aura, mannerisms, the way he carried himself.

[Cedric Maxwell]

He had no championships. I thought you said you can be great without winning championships. But in order to be the greatest Eft on the end of great. You needed to have championships, he had none. So tell me, when they put that on Sports Illustrated, what made him the goat over Kareem?

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Right.

[Cedric Maxwell]

What made him the goat over Magic who at the time had five championships and had three Finals MVPs along with three regular season MVPs along with Larry Bird who had 84, 85, 86. He's the last guy to win three consecutive MVPs, who had two Finals MVPs. What made Michael Jordan at the time when they said he was the goat, the goat over a guy that had six rings, six MVPs, two Finals MVPs. He was a four time scoring champ, a six time rebound, rebound champ, blocked shot sale. And then guess what, Ocho, he had been to 19 all star games, right? He was 11 time all defensive player, a 15 time all NBA selection. So I'm just trying to figure out how did we come to that conclusion, right? You can say if you want to say Jordan now, but they declared him to go when he didn't have any championships. So once you declare somebody something, how do you take it away from him? Even Ocho, Even if I'm a doctor, you take my medical license, I might not be able to practice, but I'm still a doctor. You take my law license, I might not be able to practice, but I'm still a lawyer. You bestowed the title upon him and he didn't have anything to back it up. So how do you take that away from him now that he has what he has? Ocho, you can't.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Toya said this and this and never ending discussion will never end.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Appreciate that. Gold standard Braun to go. JJ said, why don't the star players guard each other? They used to, but now, not always. Jordan sometimes took it upon himself. But if you go back and look, a lot of times Scotty guarded the opposing team's best player. Especially if it was a wing point guard, shooting guard, small forward. Kobe would like that challenge sometimes. But you wanted to save that guy for the offensive end. You didn't want him spending all his energy trying to defend, right? You go back, you know Magic Johnson wasn't guarding Michael Jordan. He wasn't your guarding Clyde Drexler. You try to give him somebody that's not going to cause him to exert a lot. Just the way it is Deshaunte Carlock. So it's okay for Caleb but not Purdy to have a cast. Bro, did you listen to what we said last night? Did you listen? Yeah, but what I said, let's not do that because everybody have star players. All I said is that I don't see a situation where he elevates not taking anything away from Purdy. Purdy just earned everything that he's getting. But see, you don't listen. And you, I appreciate the question, deshaunta, but listen, listen. Yeah, it's okay for him to happen, but did anybody say Caleb was a top 10 quarterback? Okay, just checking Camper Norwood Jr. My question, who you take in a rap battle? Lil Wayne or Drake for 5200 from Oo? Wayne, Wayne.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Was that even a question? Who asked?

[Cedric Maxwell]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I'm taking anybody over Wayne Prime. Wayne. I don't know if I'm taking anybody. I don't.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

That boy got when he was in.

[Cedric Maxwell]

It'd been some great one. You talk about. You talk about Nas, you talk about M, you talk about hov. Yeah, I mean, lyricist, if you want to say lyricist. KRS1, Big Daddy Kane taking me up, baby Park, Biggie. It's a matter of preference, matter of choice. Like I said, I'm a little older than the guy, so I remember listening to KRS1. I remember listening to Big Daddy Kane. It all depends. But ocho would be 10,400 if he test Drake. And I like Drake. Nick Mars, this money thing has got to be, got to be out by now. Even if Ocho had bezos money, he wouldn't pay. Yeah, yeah, you, you right. I, I, I'm starting to get, I'm starting to get the feeling what happened. Ocho ain't gonna run me my money, man.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

You know this me, man. You know how black folk here, we don't do nothing on time. I'm gonna get it to you. I mean, I'm definitely gonna get it to you. Okay. Yeah, ain't no problem. Ain't no issue.

[Cedric Maxwell]

I might have to say, you know who over there to collect my money. So when she come up, when she come over there to break to drop them, drop them jerseys off. Yeah, exchange jerseys. 5200 in my pocket. Can we do that? Even swap? Ain't no swindle.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

I gotta check with the missus, make sure it's okay.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Now, you told me yesterday, the senator, you know who, she would bring you to drop the jerseys off. All I'm saying is, can I get.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

My 5,900 right, baby, I gotta check with the missus, make sure. Cause. Cause you know, it's a, a new sheriff in town, man, so.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Man, don't Be like that.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

I'm done. I'm just telling you, it's a new sheriff in town, so things ain't what it used to be. Some of the things we used to be able to do, we really can't do no more. So I got to make sure.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Ocho. Yeah, okay. I get it. Okay. No problem. I don't want to get it. I don't want no problem.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

I don't want no problems either.

[Cedric Maxwell]

What are the problems? So I don't know what he gonna do. Joy, let me get those right there. Yeah, yeah.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Hey. Hey. Sending my jerseys, man. No, I'm still trying to. I'm still trying to understand. How did you get my tie? You got my damn jersey anyway.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Is that the patch y' all be having?

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah, that's a high tide pass, man. Miami beach, man. Miami Beach Senior high.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Yeah.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

I'm saying, how do you. How do you even order that?

[Cedric Maxwell]

This.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

This. This late in the game.

[Cedric Maxwell]

I like the red with the red one, but this white one.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Years, bro.

[Cedric Maxwell]

And if you don't give me my 5,900, you won't see it again.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Hey, how you got that? I'm gonna go by the school. I'm gonna go by the school. Oh, tomorrow's Saturday, though.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Yep. And guess what? It's the weekend late. A Memorial Day weekend. They ain't got nothing for you.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Hey, it is Memorial weekend now.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Yeah, but what you gonna do? You finna cook, man, look here. I went and got me a haircut today. I'm gonna lay back, okay? Tomorrow, I'm gonna work out who gets.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

A haircut and goes and lay back. Most of the time, you get your haircut, you know, you want to be seen. That's the point of getting the haircut.

[Cedric Maxwell]

I might go get a color. Man, look at that. All that gray. Ocho. Damn.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. There you go. Don't worry about it. I'm getting ready to go out right now.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Go out where?

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Me and the miss, we finna go to booby trap. Yeah, I heard. I listen. Area 29, it left such a. Such a. Such a positive impact on my life. I want to see what the fuss is about. Booby trap. So I want to see the comparison between Area 29 in Houston and boogie trap on the river that I hear so many stories about. So I'll check back in with you and let you know. Let you know. Sunday, June.

[Cedric Maxwell]

June said better punchlines. Wayne or Luda? Ah, it's so different.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Completely different. Very good punchlines. Though. Hey, them boys word play, man. They on some other. They on some.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Man. It used to be, man. Luda had a stress there, man. If Blue jumped on the feature, you know it was gonna be hooked.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

What time it was?

[Cedric Maxwell]

P.J. p.J. P. 11. Who's the most underrated? Underrated wide receiver, tight end from your eras. Might not have been Pro Bowls, All Pro, but they were forced on the field. I grew up in the OO era, so I say Santana Moss and Dallas Clark. My era, and that's all. I was going to die. Damn. Y' all do realize I ain't played in two decades, right? Who was underrated? I play with. You know, I wouldn't say he's underrated, but I just think the thing is, is that, you know, he was kind of in the same era that I was in. He was a year younger than me. Ben. Ben Coast. And his teams didn't win like my teams won. Now, he did win. He came. He. We both went to Baltimore in 2000. And it was great playing with him because, like I said, I took him on his first visit to Savannah State. So it was great to. And we made so many Pro Bowls together, Ocho. I mean, in the afc, when I was in my prime and he was in his prime, you weren't going to the Pro bowl if your name wasn't Sharper Coates. You were not going.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Right?

[Cedric Maxwell]

So wide receiver.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who?

[Cedric Maxwell]

Wide receiver. Jimmy Smith.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

George. Jerry was that boy, man, that was bad. Well, he was that bad.

[Cedric Maxwell]

That joker, man, that joke, that speed out. Hey, that joker fall off the table.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Ocho, they smooth bad boy. Hey, Brunel put that thing right on.

[Cedric Maxwell]

The button every time, man, with him.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

And Keenan and the boy were nasty, bro.

[Cedric Maxwell]

And then fabulous Freddie Taylor.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah, I used to study. I see. I used to study Jay Smooth, but.

[Cedric Maxwell]

All the boy, Keenan McCartell could run routes, too. Now people sleep on Keenan.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah, yeah. Keenan was nice.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Your boy stop on a dime. But Jimmy with that speed out in the end.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Yeah, I used to study O.J. smooth boy. I love Jimmy.

[Cedric Maxwell]

Nathaniel said, Uncle Nocho, how many games will the Cowboys win this year? And Ocho, can you sing the national anthem for the chat? Ocho, how many games will the Cowboys win?

[Tyrese Halliburton]

Hey, listen, honestly, I like the Cowboys. 13. Game win season. 13, 14. Game win season. I like that.

[Cedric Maxwell]

How many?

[Tyrese Halliburton]

13.

[Cedric Maxwell]

13.

[Tyrese Halliburton]

13. You know, and I. I can say that. I say that. I. I really think so. And I'm. I'm just. I'm just basing everything from an offensive perspective. That's it, you know. Well, I'm not sure what the defense is going to do, but I can tell you what that goddamn offense is going to do. Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm standing on that. You know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not even a Cowboys fan, you know, I'm just understanding what Dak Prescott has at his disposal. That's all I know. That's all I know.

[Cedric Maxwell]

That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for joining us. The Pacers take a commanding 2o lead. They go on the road, take both, both road games this game, 114 to 109. Thanks to a sensational night from Pascal Siakam. 15 of 23, 3 of 5 from the 3, 6 of 8 from the free throw line, 39 big points. They have five other guys in double figures. N. Smith, Miles Turner, Nemhard, Halliburton and McConnell all scoring double figures as they beat the New York Knicks 114 to 109. The Knicks have a huge uphill battle decline. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know me, I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. My partner and co host, Liberty City's own bingo Ring of fame honoree, Pro Bowler All Pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Want to give a special thanks to Cedric Cornbread Maxwell for joining us to help break down the game and talk all things NBA. He's a two time Champs Finals MVP of the 81 finals. Cedric Cornbread Maxwell. Thank you again brother. Next time you get some more time, stop by and holler at us again. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button, make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. I want to thank you, each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Ocho and I greatly, greatly appreciate what you've helped us accomplish thus far. None of this is possible without you and thanks to you we've been able to do accomplish a whole lot. So hopefully we'll continue to have your trust, your loyalty and your support as we move forward. Please make sure you check out Shea by La Portier. We do have it in stock now. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. The best tasting VSOP cognac on the market. Try it for yourself. Don't take my word for it, but try it for yourself. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of his platforms, Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone, they are gone. So grab yours while you can. We're off tomorrow but but we're back on Sunday. Thank you guys for joining us. Thank you guys for tuning in tonight. We appreciate it. We'll see you on Sunday. Enjoy your weekend. Stay safe out there people. The Volume when you're with Amex Business Platinum, going the extra mile for your business pays off. With five times membership rewards points on flights and prepaid hotels booked through amextravel.com, you can earn more points to help grow your business. And with access to more than 1400 lounges globally through the American Express Global Lounge Collection, including the Centurion Lounge. Can I get you a refill? You can stay fresh wherever your business travel takes you. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms apply. Learn [e-mail] AmExBusiness Are you still quoting.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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