Nightcap Hour 2: Cardinals to RELEASE Kyler Murray + Bills to START FRESH with Keon Coleman + Jerry Jones ADMITS to FAILING the Cowboys FANS + David Montgomery SHUTS DOWN Trade RUMORS + Unc & Sterling Sharpe’s STARTER JACKETS

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2 (March 2, 2026) — Detailed Episode Summary

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Main Theme

This episode features NFL Hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”) and former Pro Bowler Chad “Ocho Cinco” Johnson digging into the chaos of quarterback moves across the NFL, the shifting wide receiver landscape, and other pressing storylines. They dissect rumors about veterans like Kyler Murray and Tua Tagovailoa, dive into free agency, address the Cowboys' failures, and engage in classic wide receiver debates—with their signature mix of unfiltered, insightful, and often hilarious banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kyler Murray & the Cardinals’ Quarterback Carousel

• Kyler Murray's Likely Release: Unc kicks off with news that the Cardinals expect to release Kyler Murray, barring a last-minute trade. Murray is drawing reported interest from teams like the Vikings, Steelers, and Jets. (01:45)
  • Ocho’s Take: “Absolutely. He's, he's a franchise quarterback in the right situation… I like Kyler Murray with the Jets. I, I like him better with the Jets because I think in that environment…he’d be better suited.” (02:13)
  • Discussion: Both agree Murray needs a situation that maximizes his strengths, but question if he fits the Vikings' system—citing differences in how pocket passers like Kirk Cousins distribute the ball compared to mobile QBs like Murray.
• Quarterback Styles Matter: Unc and Ocho reflect on how receivers thrive with traditional drop-back quarterbacks.
  • “It's hard, and I've said this…It's hard playing with a guy that runs the football…I'm running the comeback and the crowd screaming…I wrote a square and…” (03:21, Unc)
• Business of NFL Trades: Unc notes no team will give up market value in a trade when they know a player is about to be released: “Why, why, when I know you gotta get off something, would I come in—hey, I'm gonna let you put the estate sale...I’ll come look at it, but I’m not gonna make you an offer on it.” (04:50)
• Murray’s Future: Consensus that Kyler will land somewhere with a more balanced offense—Jets are mentioned as an ideal fit, especially with playmakers like Garrett Wilson.
• Player Patience & Productivity: A recurring theme is how an offense’s productivity, especially for receivers, swings dramatically based on quarterback type.

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2. The Vikings’ Quarterback Dilemma & WR Rankings

• Pressure on “JJ” (Likely referring to Justin Jefferson): Discussion on the dwindling patience for developing QBs and the resulting impact on top receivers like Jefferson (06:22).
  • “A thousand yards receiving ain’t gonna keep you in the top five. You gotta be 13, 14, 15, 1600…That’s what it is.” (08:47, Unc)
  • “The Vikings’ next move has to be their best move.” (10:38, Ocho)
• Top Five WRs Debate: Unc and Ocho debate their current “top five” list:
  • For Unc: “I still got Chase at one for me…for two is Puka and JSN. That’ll be two and three…Now you got Jetta [Jefferson], you got CD, you got Pick.” (12:06, Unc)
• Legacy & Production: The hosts stress that pro football ranking is about constant performance and not a "lifetime achievement" award: “You gotta constantly update your resume. This ain’t no lifetime achievement award.” (08:47, Unc)

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3. Combine Takeaways & Fast Guys vs. Football Players

• Record Fast Times at Combine: Both marvel at this year’s exceptional 40-yard dash times and athletic results across positions. (16:12–18:52)
  • Ocho: “I’ve never seen nothing like this. The fastest combine on record…” (16:38)
• Skepticism About Combine Results: The main takeaway—combine speed doesn’t automatically mean NFL greatness.
  • “There’s a difference between running fast and playing fast…John Ross ran fast, but he couldn’t play fast.” (18:38, Unc)
  • Both stress the importance of “film over forty”—actual in-game play trumps testing numbers.
  • “Most of the guys in the Hall of Fame didn’t have pop-out stats. Unless it’s Randy [Moss]…” (20:16, Unc)
  • “I don’t care about that [40 time]. Turn on the goddamn film…Can you play football?” (21:58, Ocho & Unc)
• Skill Set vs. Speed: Tyreek Hill is cited as the rare “fast guy” who’s also an elite football player due to his complete, nuanced skill set. (25:28)
  • “What makes Tyreek so unique is that people afraid of that speed, but he can stop on a dime…He can run that dig, he can run that comeback…” (25:28, Unc)
  • Speed without control is compared to “having a Ferrari with no brakes.” (26:31, Ocho)

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4. NFL Quarterback Salary Cap Impacts

• Possible Veteran QB Cuts: Unc lists QBs with large guarantees who might be cut: Tua ($54M), Kyler ($37M), Geno ($18.5M), Cousins ($10M), Fields ($10M), with the league salary cap at $301M. (32:33)
  • “How valuable is it going to be for a quarterback making…1.3 million?…You can build out a nice roster with a quarterback that’s 1.3 million.” (33:13, Unc)
• Tua Tagovailoa’s Situation in Miami: Discussion about Tua’s enormous cap number complicating Miami’s future: “Bull jive…When the team is fed up with you…they will get rid of you no matter what.” (36:42, Unc)
• QB Leadership Beyond Skills: “It’s a lot more to being a quarterback than playing that position…You gotta watch what you say, you gotta watch what you do, you gotta watch how you move…” (37:22, Unc)

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5. Buffalo Bills & Keon Coleman “Fresh Start”

• Bills Hit Reset on Keon Coleman: Bills’ GM intends to give the underwhelming former high pick a “clean slate” with a revamped staff. (36:36–42:41)
  • “You gotta know…if you’re not playing through your own fault…you can’t be on the field dancing. No, you just can’t.” (39:35, Unc)
• Coaching, Accountability, & Growth: Both stress the need for maturity, hard work, and owning your NFL trajectory.
  • “Take care of what you need to take care of…You gotta take it serious.” (43:02, Unc)

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6. Dallas Cowboys & Jerry Jones’ Admittance of Failure

• Jerry Jones on Failing Fans: 30 years since their last Super Bowl, Jerry admits he’s let fans down, promising more aggressive free agency. (43:31–53:55)
  • “I'm not sure why Jerry always does this every offseason…He never really does it.” (48:52, Ocho)
  • Unc questions if Cowboys will truly bolster the defense, especially at linebacker and in the secondary.
  • Acknowledgment that offense isn't the team's main issue—it's the defense and leadership.
• Ranking the NFC: Cowboys may only be “seventh or eighth best in the NFC” right now (56:05).
• Staying Healthy is Key: “Cowboys, y'all gotta keep Dak healthy. That's your best chance.” (55:27, Unc)

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7. David Montgomery Trade Rumors & RB Value

• Montgomery Denies Rumors: Despite rumors, Montgomery denies wanting a trade—but Ocho speculates the reduced role behind Jameer Gibbs makes it logical for him to want a change. (57:58)
  • “Where there's smoke, there's fire.” (58:39, Ocho)
• League Trends: Teams prefer younger, cheaper backs; rare to find truly ‘special’ three-down running backs. (60:20)

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8. Starter Jacket Nostalgia & NFL Fashion

• Photo Flashback: Viral photo of Shannon and brother Sterling in iconic starter jackets sparks a trip down memory lane about 90s NFL fashion (and the value of $5,000 back then). (61:32–65:03)
  • “Starter was the lick back in the 90s when that thing first came out.” (62:09, Unc)

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9. Quick-Hit Fan Questions & Classic Debates

Music: Pick Your Top 3 Rappers (69:44)

• Ocho: “Jay Z, Biggie, and 50.”
• Unc: “Nas, Kiss, and Biggie. I think Kiss is underrated, man.”

NFL Careers “Wish Had Worked Out” (73:11)

• Ocho: “Peter Warrick…I would have loved him to have a long, illustrious NFL career…We were robbed of Bo Jackson. We were robbed of Barry Sanders.”
• Unc: “Alden Smith was headed for a very, very special career…”

On LeBron’s Legacy (76:20)

• “Kobe is Kobe. There is nothing…What LeBron does does not diminish what Kobe did.” (Unc)
• “For LeBron…to come out and be what he became. Yes, knock on wood, no slip ups. That's a huge accomplishment, man.” (Unc)

On Measuring Players (Film vs. Measurables)

• “All the measurables that they talk about. Oh, he's only this short. What do you look like when I turn on the goddamn film?” (80:19, Ocho)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Rankings:
  “You gotta constantly update your resume. This ain’t no lifetime achievement award.” — Unc (08:47)
• On QB Preference:
  “It’s hard playing with a guy that runs the football…You play with drop back quarterbacks…Back foot hit, the ball’s coming out.” — Unc (03:21)
• On Combine Speed:
  “There’s a difference between running fast and playing fast.” — Unc (18:38)
• On Tyreek Hill:
  “What makes Tyreek so unique is that people afraid of that speed, but he can stop on a dime.” — Unc (25:28)
• On Cowboys Hype:
  “I'm not sure why Jerry always does this every offseason…He never really does him.” — Ocho (48:52)
• On Legacy:
  “What LeBron does does not diminish what Kobe did…So saying LeBron has been unbelievable for the Lakers doesn’t diminish what Kobe did. Kobe did that. It’s etched in stone.” — Unc (76:20)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Kyler Murray Release & Future: 01:45–05:59
• Vikings QB Dilemma & WR Rankings: 06:22–13:45
• Combine Recap—Fastest 40 Times: 16:12–21:10
• Film vs. Speed/Measurables: 21:58–25:28
• NFL QB Contracts/Cuts: 32:33–37:22
• Buffalo Bills’ Keon Coleman Fresh Start: 36:36–43:12
• Jerry Jones’ Cowboys Comments: 43:31–56:43
• David Montgomery Trade Rumors: 57:58–61:32
• Starter Jackets & NFL Nostalgia: 61:32–65:03
• Fan Q&A (Music, NFL careers, legacy): 69:44–79:24
• Evaluating Players—Film vs. Combine: 80:19

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Tone & Style

• The show mixes football expertise with genuine player perspective, humor, and real talk.
• Unc and Ocho aren’t afraid to challenge each other and the “accepted wisdom” from front offices, NFL media, or fans.
• The conversation is energetic, unguarded, and engaging, making complicated NFL dynamics accessible.

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Bottom Line

You’ll walk away from this episode with a sharper understanding of the real issues behind quarterback churn in the NFL, why WRs care about their QBs’ style, why combine numbers don’t always matter, and the eternal struggle of Jerry Jones to reclaim Super Bowl glory. If you want the raw, player-centric view—and big laughs—Shannon and Ocho consistently deliver.

Transcript

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[Unc (Liberty City)]

The Arizona Cardinals are reportedly expecting to release Kyler Murray barring a last minute trade. Per Ian Rappaport, Kyler is reported to receive interest from the Vikings as well as Pittsburgh New York Jets. Once Kyler hits free agency, the Vikings intend to bring another quarterback in to compete with JJ either to raise his level of play or to take the job outright. Well, if you bring Kyler Murray in there, he's probably going to take the job outright. Yeah, but anyway, Ocho, is Kyler Murray still a franchise quarterback?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Absolutely. He's, he's a franchise quarterback in the right situation. And I think about what certain teams need. I think Kyler Murray to the Vikings. I, I, I don't like that move. I like Kirk Cousins going back to the Vikings instead being a pocket passer based on the talents that they have around them. You think about Kyler Murray and Trey McBride right when Kyler Murray was quarterback. You look at the difference in when Brissette came in as a quarterback. You see how McBride's number change. You see how, how the offensive play calling changed based on having a pocket passer and not having someone who's like, who's a good quarterback in the right situation, like Kyler Murray, who always has to be sprinted out with a left or with a right. So it changes everything. I like Kyler Murray with the Jets. I, I like him better with the jets because I think in that environment and in what they have going on, I, I think he'd be better suited with ag. But the. In the Vikings, it just, it wouldn't make sense. It would make sense because now you're going to have the receivers pissed and angry again and you're going back into one situation where they're not getting the productivity that they would want.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

It's hard, and I've said this, and it's hard playing with a guy that runs the football because Ocho, I'm running the comeback and the crowd screaming, I'm like, what the hell they screaming for? And he over there like, what the hell? I wrote Ocho, I wrote a square and like wallow. Wait a damn minute. It's hard to play with a guy like you said, and you play with drop back quarterbacks and I play with drop back quarterbacks to know that. Okay, back foot hit. The ball's coming out.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, on time, on time.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

I understand that. Three step, five step, seven step. Now most guys, you know, they don't take seven steps anymore because very few teams have their guy up under center. Guys take, Guys are taking fewer and fewer snaps, even though Ben Johnson and, and, and, and his group still put the guy up under center. But for the most part, we've seen Stafford is up in the center a lot too. Kyle Shanahan still has his guys, but for the most part they've gotten just as pure up on the center. Guys are taking shotgun snaps at an all time high. With that being said, I mean, how this man get a, a super duper contract three what, three years ago, Ocho. And here we are to release.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, I mean trade.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Because I already know you want to release him. I ain't giving you, I ain't giving you market value for him. I'm not. Because guess what? I get him and Pay what I want to say and not have to pick up that contract. I know you gotta get ready. Mucho. I know you got to.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, most definitely.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

So why, why, when I know you got to get off something, would I come in, hey, I'm gonna let you put the estate sale. I'm gonna let you put it on your yard, put it in your yard and I'll come, I come look at it. But I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna make you an offer on it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, he's probably, he's probably gonna get released. Obviously there are going to be suitors. I just think offensively, from an offensive standpoint, you look at what Kirk Cousins did when he's with, with the Minnesota Vikings, and you look at Sam, what Sam Donald did when he was with the Minnesota Vikings. You know, offensively, the production that the receivers had. You look at Kyler Murray when he had Trey McBride, the numbers weren't the same. Then all of a sudden, Jacobe Brissette is a quarterback and now Trey McBride goes crazy.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yes.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So now that gives you a better understanding. Kyler Murray needs to be in the right situation, not a team. That's where we have that type of talent, where you have to, you have, you're throwing volume. You don't. You're throwing volume passes. I think somewhere like the jets, where it's, it's somewhat balanced. You know, you have Garrett Wilson, you have, I mean, Breeze is coming back, right?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah. They say, I mean, it's being reported that they're gonna put the franchise tag on it if they can't get a deal done. A long term deal.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay. Okay. Yeah, I, I think, I think over there would be dope. I mean, it'd be the right situation for Kyler Murray. I think just fans, of course, knowing them, they'll probably say no. And I mean it, it is what it is.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

And you know, they got A.D. mitchell. Remember they traded for A.D. mitchell.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, that's right. I like, I like A.D. yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

How are we going, how are we going to view jj? Because this is going to be his third year. He didn't play his first year. He got nicked last year and missed a couple of games last year. How soon before we like. Okay, Ocho? I don't know.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It ain't, it ain't really too soon. It ain't not gonna be too soon because obviously the patience is growing thin. The players offensively and then those that are, that are seniority are gonna, they're gonna go frustrated, they're gonna get Angry they. Now J was able to hold it together last year. How much longer do you think he going to be able to hold it together? Even though he's a team player, he's a teaser team player, but obviously there frustrations that go on when as a team, collectively, you're struggling because the most important position is not playing well. And not only is he not playing well, when he is. When he's available, he's not playing well. He's always hurt. So, I mean, something gonna happen.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You know what happens. Cause he look around, he like, damn, chase had another 120 catch season. Damn, Puka. JSN this one.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That one. Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

And I know what I had when I had my quarterbacks in the first two, three, four, five years like I had.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Now I feel like I'm running in mud

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

unless you know how important that position is.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

He's like, hold on, Pick. Leave Pittsburgh and come over to a new team and Damn near get 1500, go crazy easy. I know I'd have had me a season. I'd have had me 17, 1800. Oh, hell no. Y' all better get somebody here before I start throwing breaking chairs. I don't want to do it on Joe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey. Oh, it's, ah. It. It sucks.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

It sucks because first thing. Because pretty soon y' all gonna start saying, at least right now, y' all still got me in that top five. But pretty soon you're like, ocho, I don't know, we could put jail. I don't know. We can keep Jet in the top five. Cause, hey, jsn. And we got Puka and. And we got Chase and we got. Hey, we got pick. We got CD I don't know, Ocho. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And every everything yard.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

A thousand yards receiving ain't gonna keep you in the top five. You got to be 13, 14, 15, 1600, 100, 105, 110, 115, 20 catches. Yeah, that's what it. It is what it is. And we. And what in sports. The thing that I love about sports, Ocho, is that you got to constantly update your resume. This ain't no lifetime achievement award. Yeah, we'll give you a lifetime achievement award once you're done. Yeah, that's what they give to Scorsese. That's what they give to Spielberg. No, no, no, no, no. No Oscar for best director goes to. Who did it this year? I know Jaws was great. ET Was unbelievable. Schindler's List was another outstanding movie. Gangs was that Gangs. What's that with Leo DiCaprio. Scorsese did. We know what Scorsese. We know it's work. But this year, he. He deserved the best director Oscar. Yeah. So that's kind of how we do it. We base everything. Okay. Yeah, we. We'll give you a grace.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You know, you have a little obvious, like, oh, you have a little op year. You. He bounced back.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

But Chase, keep turning them. Puka. Keep turning them.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Turn him.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

JSN, he done put that. This is. JSN went 100. Now he went 126.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Eight. 1793.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Subo suo Chase. Another. Another outstanding season. Another 13, 1400. Another 120.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You got Puka, you got CD you got Chase.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They gonna be all right. The Viking. The Vikings next move has to be their best move, especially at that position. It. It has, because the window of opportunity to contend is gonna close, especially with the defense. You have what you. What Mr. Flores has to work with right now is your best window of opportunity. But you got to fix that position. You got to get that position together. To me, if JJ's not the answer, based on the small samples I have. You've seen the past two years. Kirk Cousins is the nest. Best option. There's nothing else out there. Tom Brady ain't walking through that door. I'm. I'm just saying to give you. Give you a better understanding on how difficult it is to find a competent quarterback to run your team. It's not easy. Is there anything in the goddamn draft. They definitely not gonna draft another quarterback. That ain't happening. You just took him with eight three years ago.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

But you remember we was growing up, and you going to such and such. Yeah, I'm gonna be there. Save me a seat. Hey, you get there before me. Save me a seat. If I get there before you, I save you a seat.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Huh?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

We don't get to save no seats when we ranking.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Somebody coming to occupy that. Somebody coming.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. But now that you just said that, you know, I'm glad you said that. I'm glad. I'm glad you just said that. That was a great analogy, too. You still believe Justin Jeff is in the top five right now? Chat. I would love to hear your. Your response, too, because I got my chat on to the right of me. That's why I keep looking to the right.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

It's. Ooh, it's close, Ocho. It's close because Puka and JSN has put together back to back right now. I still got Chase at one for me.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Based on what he's done since he's been in the league, and he's shown no slippage. So for me, Chase is number one. Now you get the battle out between for me, for two is Puka and jsn. That'll be two and three for me. Put them in whatever order you want. Now top three. Whoo. I mean, top five. So you got three. So we got three slots. So now you got Jetta, you got cd.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You got pick.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Hold up. Try to think who else we got?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oo so, I mean, A.J. brown was once in the com.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

A.J. brown? Yeah. Yeah. Aj had a down year. Reek got hurt. Who. Who else? Like the ocho zay flowers? Nah, he ain't top five. Pierce? No. McLaurin. No, that's just for me. That's just. That's just me. That's something. Those guys that we mentioned, they might be top five for somebody. But I'm just saying, based on what I say, a top receiver is consistency that they bring, right? I would say yes. I would say yes. But he gonna have to pick it up this year because I don't know if I could hold. I could hold that spot much longer.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

See? Yeah. I mean, and I.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

We.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

We know what he can do.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yes. Oh, absolutely.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But I. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't understand. And I saw somebody in the chat just say, why bring in Kirk Cousins? Why would you want to go backwards? Well, hell, you're not going forward what you got. You're not going forward with what you have. So having someone that's been able to get it done, I mean. I mean, from a productive standpoint, obviously, and hoping you get over the hump, but what's the point of having something where you ain't going no goddamn where you don't have a chance at all?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

True, true. But they got some, you know, what you call them, got hurt. Mike Evans got hurt this year. But Tet Carolina. I love the kid in Arizona, Wilson. I love him.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, he nice. Isn't the first name not Cedric, is it?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

No, I think it's Mike. Mike.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Mike.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Michael Wilson. I think that's his name. I'm not. And that's why I just said Wilson, because I didn't want to. I didn't want to say no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He's really good. If, if, if. With the way Wilson played last year and we get M. Marvin Harrison, we get Marvin Harrison Jr. Back healthy and back playing to how we know he can play. Playing with confidence. But they got a nasty Duo over there. Yeah, they got a nasty. It is Michael Wilson. Okay,

[Unc (Liberty City)]

so, yeah, I, I agree with you, Ocho. We, we know what this guy can do. It's just a matter of getting a quarterback that can get into football. And that's what, you know, you play a dependent position and you got to have somebody that can, that can get you the ball.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

So we're, we're gonna, we're gonna find out. Jj, this is not. Never the last thing you want to be labeled as a injury. Injury prone. Yeah, he missed the first year with an injury and then he got nicked. He remember he played the first game that beat, came back, beat Chicago. He missed three or four games, comes back, gets nicked again. He's going to have to find a better way. He gonna have to find a way to stay on the field because the best ability is availability. I don't care how great you are if you're not on the field. What can I do with that?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Can't even evaluate that.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

What am I supposed to do with that?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Can't evaluate it.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

So it's going to be incumbent to him to get into that playbook. Understand? Stay on the field. Because like you say, Jetta, guys gonna get frustrated. You look at what they have. Addison and, and Hawkinson will be back. Jetta, I read, I think they're moving on from Aaron Jones.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They said, yeah, I saw that, I saw that earlier.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

We're gonna try to move you and if we can't, we're going to end up releasing you. Save some money on the cap because boy, Ocho, I don't know how much of that combine you watch. Yeah. Hey man, this, this combine here.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, I didn't, I ain't missed nothing. Obviously. Even if you don't watch the combine, Unc, if you have social media, you get to see everything. You get to see everything. I've never seen nothing like this. I've never seen nothing like this.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

The fastest combine on record. The fastest the wide receivers. Yeah, the tight ends ran the fastest. The, oh, the D lineman, the old lineman, everybody was outstanding.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, did you see, you see young bull From Miami, the 6, 9, young 5 something?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

How you that big moving like that, man?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

And I like when they simulcasted it against Richard.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Be blowing the doors off.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Rich the deep live again. Rich a four yard head start. Catch him at the 30.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey. Them boys was moving. They, they was moving. They was moving. They was moving. And, and, and what? What I don't like. This is one of the things I don't like, and I, I, I would love to sit down and, and, and, and, and talk to some of these players with that, with some of the times that I'm seeing, based on what I saw at the combine. If you, if you're running that fast, why is it not popping up and showing up on tape like that? Like, with that kind of speed, you should be dominating at said position at the collegiate level. So something, something, something is disconnected in a sense. You run a fold. Do you understand what you're supposed to do? If you have the agility, the thing that can be taught, you can't teach speed. So you add that in, in addition to all the other qualities and intangibles and qualities that make you good or great at said position. There's no reason I, I, I don't, I don't understand. With all those times and watching college football all season long, like, we've done nothing, jumped out, nothing was like every week when Reggie Bush played. We tuning in because it's Reggie. You got to see it. Peter Work, Andre Johnson, I mean, Michael Vickery was that V. Like, you tune in to see it, and it just, I didn't have that based on what I saw today or the past this weekend from the combine. Well, wait a minute. Why did all these fast time, but everybody flew under the radar, you know, during in season.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

There's a difference between running fast and playing fast. Those are two different things. You didn't run fast, but you played fast. There are a lot of guys that ran for John Ross ran fast, but he couldn't play fast.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, he was, he was. Hey, hey, I, I don't, I don't see how the body, boy.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

But see, and the thing is, I mean, his body wasn't made because he was a track guy. See, Tyreek has track speed, but he's a football body. Tyreek has a football body. And there's, and sometimes, Ocho, what you get is guys going and training for a specific task. I'm gonna train to run the 40 standing long jump, the short cone divert. I'm gonna train for that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Okay, you can train for it. Ocho. That doesn't mean it translate to what you're doing on the field.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Like, when I see some guys, when I see like an offensive lineman run, when I'm gonna need my offensive lineman to run 4, 6, 4, 7, 4 8. All up. Let me see, let me see your kick. Let me see what you do on this combo. Let me see what you're doing to slip box. Yes. Yeah, that's what I need to see all that running fast, you off his line. I don't give a damn about that Right off defensive lineman. All I want to do is see you 10 yards.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. What does that look like?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

If you run farther than 10 yard, bro, I'm sorry, You chasing somebody in the end zone. So that's, that's the thing, Ocho. I think the thing is, is that we see guys and they're training for a specific thing.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

As opposed to as a football player.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

I mean, most of the guys in the hall of Fame didn't have pop out stats. Unless it's Randy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Randy. Pro day was stupid, crazy.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah. But if you look at most of the guys.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, average. Yes, average. Because I mean the game, the game is not based on running in a straight line. In a sense.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

No.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You think about all the 40 times. Chad, stay with me real quick. Stay with me. You think about all of all the 40 times from all the fast receivers today, Right? How do you stop someone that runs that fast? Right? We're not scared. We're not scared of that. Our speed is the great thing. How do we stop it? You put somebody in front of them. Yeah, you put somebody in front of them. Because most of the time if you, if you're somebody that's that fast. Yes, you're explosive, but can you do it when there's a body in front of you? Do you have the lateral movement? And quickly, are you twitchy enough? So that's what.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Look at Miles Garrett. Look at Miles Garrett and how he rushes the passer. You see he doing all this, hit like a damn wide receiver, tight, try to get off the ball. Yeah, he ain't supposed to be able to do that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nah, absolutely not.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

He take once, he faked one outside, take one giant step offside and come across any offensive lineman face he want to. That's the difference. Look at Vernon Goldston. Go back and look at his times and what he ran. He should have been. Hey, he should have been ripping people's head off on the field, Right? Look at a guy like Sean Oakman, 6 foot 5, 6 foot 6. All I want to know, can you play football? I'm looking for football. That's it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's it.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

I ain't looking for. I ain't looking for Usain Boat. I ain't looking for. I ain't looking for a Bob beaming. Somebody gonna jump 30ft. Can you play football?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And that's what it comes down to at the end of the day, the 40 time is great being that fast. It's really great. It's a great quality to have. It's a great trait to have because it can't be taught. Then I look at, look at things. Carnell Tate. CARNELL Tate ran 4, 4, 45 from Ohio State. I don't care about that. I don't care about that. Turn on the goddamn film. What does it look like when brother Tate is playing for the goddamn Ohio Buckeyes every goddamn Saturday? What is he doing?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Prime example. Look at the receiver we just talked about. What, what did Chase run? What did JSN run? What did Puka run? What did Jetta run? What did Pickens run? Ain't nobody in no 4 threes. What is that? Ain't nobody no limb foot standing long jump. Ain't Nobody got no 40 inch vertical, bro. Can you play football? Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's all it come down to now.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

We go to the football Olympics. I'm glad I got you on my team because you gonna bring home the goal.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

But

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

hey, I would, I would.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Look at Mike Mamula. Y' all see what and people said with a combine bull jive with. We've seen guys go up and slide down based on what they did at the combine. So don't tell me the combine or. Yes it does it play a big role.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Are you guys.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Because Sunny Styles brother. His brother ran. Lorenzo, he ran 427. Yeah, a safety.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He was moving, boy.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

427.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He was moving.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

And then. Oh, Jeremiah Love. You see what he read?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ran for three. Yeah, he ran for three. He ran. Hey, it, it don't look. You know. You know what Jeremiah Love know what he remind me of? He runs so smooth and there's no irky jerky like ah, you could like where it looks like he's being explosive. He remind me of Aaron Foster when Aaron Foster. Aaron Foster was fast but he, he glided in such a way where it looks so effortless, like he wasn't even trying. But they moving and you don't know they moving to somebody trying to catch their ass.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

This kid here got. I knew it was fat. I thought he was low four four. I didn't think he was gonna go sub four four, right. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That was nice.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

I mean them guys, them guys were

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

rolling, they were moving.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Them guys were rolling this weekend. I mean the tight end run. Four three nine vertical limb, two guys standing long. Burke 45 and a half.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, I, I do. I, I, I, I, I don't want under receivers to understand if you have that kind of speed you running four tools and you're running four threes, you should be able to go. If you understand the game of football and how to manipulate and get open and, and, and manipulate and, and understand and leverage and coverages, you should dominate the game. But there's so many other factors that aren't there in your game and you're not polished enough to understand that. I would, I would love. Obviously, I don't. I don't have the opportunity to do so, and I don't want to step on other people's toes that are training said receivers that are coming out and doing all this stuff. But there is so much where they can come in and dominate right away. If you have that kind of speed, if, if the rest of your game and just polished up, there's no go here.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

It's simple. What you're saying is, can you do something other than run a go? Can you run out? Can you run it in? Can you run a dig? Can you run a comeback? Can you run over?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Because what makes Tyreek so unique is that people afraid of that speed, but he can stop on the dime. Yeah, you run that speed out, he can run that dig, he can run that comeback, he can run that over, he can run the shallow.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You do everything else.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Can you tie everything together to make everything look like you running the go ball? Because that guy don't get a backpack. I don't give a damn what you running. He ain't. You ain't beating him. He gonna drive his ass off on it. Yeah, you better get. You better break that cushion and make him think you about to get up out of there. Because if that guy don't respect you, okay, good luck.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Funny thing about it. And the funny thing about it, if you fast as hell, all these people run these fast times, right? And this where you get exposed. Because if you can't, for one, if you can't get off the bump, you're done. You're not gonna last long anyway. If you can't run fast and be able to stop and transition, well, I mean, you're done.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Also gotta be able to control it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You got.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You got to speed without control ain't do you no good. OO at all.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's like having a Ferrari with no brakes.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Got a nice car. Can you drive it? Nah. Bet you know, man, I'll get it out of third. What the hell did he ocho? What the hell? You got a Ferrari, you can't get it out of third gear, right? The hell, I think Ferrari got six gears now you only get half of it because you don't know what to do with that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, I was excited though.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

I was excited from Arkansas. Now look.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

What he did,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

it was the name brother, wasn't it?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

No, no. Oh, you. No, no, no. He'll receiver. You talking about Trey, Lance's brother? No. Arkansas had a quarterback that ran 4, 3. He ran the second fastest 40 time. He had this long jump. He had like a 40 something inch ver. It's six. Six.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, six. Six.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah. Joe. To hit me up. So you see, you see the homeboy Fred? You see that? I said, come on, Joe. Yeah, yeah. They got as. What was the quarterback name? What was immeasurable? But he like, he had the highest vert. The highest standing long jump, the second fastest 40.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

I mean, he was. I ain't know. I ain't know a boy had it like this. Right? Did not.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But again, it. It comes back. But it comes back to this though, huh? What does it look like when you turn the film on?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

But that's what I'm saying. All those stuff Oo a 40 inch vertical, 112 standard. Not for a quarterback, it. No, bro. I want to know how he processes information. How soon can he get the ball? How soon can he see it, process it and get the ball going? That's all I care about. I don't care about that. It'd be nice if you break away the likelihood of quarterback taking off and going 80. They've probably been less than. They've probably been less in the history of the game. There've been a problem. How many times you think a quarterback has taken off and got nady? Maybe, maybe five times in the history of the game.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Remember Terrell Pryor when he was 93, quarterback and he cleared it and went 80?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah. That's the longest run. He went 93.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Damn.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

It was that long? Yeah. Huh.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I can't. I can't think. I mean, Michael Vick's done it a few times, maybe not 80 plus, but he done broke some long ones.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah. So my thing is. Oo. I want to know, can you process information? Can you get the ball in hand? How soon can you detect what the defense is doing and get the ball going out of your hands based on what you want to do?

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[Unc (Liberty City)]

Imagine that there are potential scenarios this off season where up to five veteran quarterbacks with guaranteed money in 26 could be released. As a result, their next contract with a new team could be a minimum of 1.3 million. Tour has 54 million guaranteed. Kyler Murray has almost 37 million dollars guaranteed. Geno Smith has 18 and a half million guaranteed. First cousins have 10 million guaranteed. And Justin Fields has 10 million guaranteed. In a league salary cap with A is $301 million. Ocho.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

How valuable is it going to be for a quarterback making a million? One point. I think the minimum guarantee for a quarterback is 1.3 million. Now, so you can build out a nice roster with a quarterback. That's 1.3 million. Ocho.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, and also you could build a nice roster, but everybody you just named won't be a starter anywhere. El. And they. They'll be backups.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Okay?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So whoever the starter is, based on where these players go, I mean, it's cool that you have a quarterback that's maybe what, your second or third string, that's making a million. A million one, a million two, a million three. Because you can build in other areas that are more important than your backup damn quarterback or you.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Well, here's the thing. Somebody's got to play in Miami. Who is going to be, I don't know. Maybe it's Kyler, maybe it's Gino. Somebody might be in a situation where they go and play in, Hey, maybe Arizona.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know what? Maybe Gino Smith can come home. Gino Smith, Miami Dolphin quarterbacks. Gino. Gino. The waddle. Gino. Hands off the H hand. I mean, he could. He could see. He could spin it like no other man. That ain't the problem. That's never been the problem. He can spin it, boy, with the best of them.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You got to be able to stay upright, though.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You got to protect him.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Chat. What y' all think about Geno Smith coming on back home to Miami, man,

[Unc (Liberty City)]

play quarterback Justin Fields. I'm trying to figure out where Justin Fields can go.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, man. Hey, they gonna let you know.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Like you said, Ocho, he's not going anywhere. He's not gonna be a starter. I don't think he goes anywhere and becomes a starter.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That was that opportunity right there.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

It was.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That was the opportunity in New York. I. I feel good about it. I felt good about it because I said it. I say what he had to do, what he had to deal with in Chicago. It's unfortunate, obviously, going to Pittsburgh and playing as well as you did in Pittsburgh. But Mike Tomlin had already promised Russell Williams the starting position once he was healthy. I say, you know what?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You know what?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He gonna be all right. Finally got his own team. I have nothing to worry about. I don't have to look over my shoulder when it comes to playing position. I can play freely. And I. I just. I mean, it's. It's the just organization. It just never goes right for anybody at that position since the goddamn Broadway Joe. You'd have to come in there and be Superman, you know, for them to

[Unc (Liberty City)]

have the kind of success they're not. They're not the best run organization. So I don't know who can have success there. Hell, I'm not so sure Tom Brady. Peyton could have success. Unless it's like, look, when you look when, when, when, when. When Peyton came to Denver, they're like, peyton, whatever. You want to run right tackle to it. And if you think about it, Tom Brady didn't start having success. You look at the first half when they went Ocho, and it's like, okay, Tom, you do you. Yeah, we're going to get the players that you like what you had in town, what you had in New England, and Tom Brady took off the second half. They ran what Peyton liked from day one. Peyton did the walkthrough. Peyton did the practice. So if you're gonna have a guy, hey, you got to do what he. What he does best, what he feels comfortable doing. But man two of got 54 million that's just going ocho. This man would have a hundred million in dead cash. Yeah. On Dolphins book. And so that's what I tell you people. Oh, he make too much. They won't trade it. They won't cut it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Bull job.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. I don't think people understand when, when the team is fed up with you, regardless of what you have, you know, regardless of dead cap, whatever that number may be, when they don't want you, they will get rid of you no matter what. They don't, they don't care about that. They don't care.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Write that off.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They write that down quick in a hurry. But he still get that 54 million though, huh?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah, he's guaranteed.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, he guaranteed that. So, I mean, yes. Hey, it, it is, it is what it is. I, I, I hope, I hope he goes somewhere where I'm not sure if he'll be able to compete for a job but, but be a very quality backup quarterback wherever he does go, and he continues to have success in a very, very, very long career going forward.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Oh, oh. The thing is about quarterback, and this is, I, I, I think what goes unnoticed and people need to understand this, it's a lot more to being a quarterback than playing that position. Oh, yeah, watch what you say. You gotta watch what you do. You gotta watch how you move because everybody else is watching that in the building. Yeah. From ownership to players to all of that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

And while he wasn't tool, wasn't the greatest quarterback, he had some missteps based on what he said.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

And it's, it's fun, man. Unless you've been in the locker room. You've been in the locker room, and you know how it is.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

And when I tell people, I said, look, those guys in that locker room, they know you as good, if not better than your family. So you can't fool them.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

They might put a lot of people that got the media food. You don't fool you guys, you don't fool your teammate. They knew how full of, you know, what that man was. And so I think I, I think the thing with TUA is that he learned a valuable lesson. Sometimes saying less is more.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, well, he knows now. Yeah, he knows now.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

So Bill's GM Brandon Bean, is ready to forget about the past with Keon Coleman following an underwhelming start to the career. Bean cited Joe Brady's promotion to head coach and the arrivals of offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr. And wide receivers coach Card Drew Terrell. Terrell. Terrell as moves that will help Cole Keon have clean. A clean slate. I think there is a new energy and it's year three and we're gonna hit full reset with Keon. Keon had a very good offseason last year, and we honestly had a very good training camp. We played the Ravens in the first game and he had a hundred whatever yards. And it's just some things from the maturity standpoint after that. But Keon has said all the right things. I give him this. He's very accountable. He's never made an excuse. We're all hands on deck and we're going to do our part. And I know Joe and those coaches are very excited for what's in store for year three. I agree.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You gotta know, bro, if you do some things and you're not playing through your own fault, Ocho, you can't be on the field dancing. No, you just can't. You just can't. And that's what they were talking about, the maturity thing, Right? I'm like, bro, really, the stuff that people find funny in your rookie year.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

They're not gonna find it funny the

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

second year and they definitely not gonna find it funny.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You don't really know. You don't know what you don't know. Right. But now, Ocho, they're going to find it even less funnier in year three.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, you. You got to get.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Because they're saying, hold on. All these guys that. Bro, bro, we. We expect you to be a th. A thousand yards. We expect you to be, you know, 85, 90, 100 catches. We expect you to be double digit touchdowns. That's what the expectations are. Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I mean, listen, he. He's one of those that can do that. He's one of those that can't do it. He has the size, he has the speed, he has a hands when he's locked in, you know, on. On to. To be able to be a complimentary piece, you know, for that offense. And he should be the go to guy. It's just about.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Working on that craft. Not when you get in season, off season. This is where you get better. This is where you get good. This is where you polish up your game, you know, in the off season. Because once you get back, that ain't number. Effing. Effing. I almost cursed. That ain't nothing but exit nose, huh? That's all it is. It's exiting those you're already supposed to be able to in the off season. You want to go back with the mentality how can I make everybody job around me easier?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yep.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

My quarterback. How can I make my officer coordinator job? Easy. You don't have to worry about me. I'm somebody you know you can count on every time it's time to call the play, but God damn, it's third and short. I don't know what to do. You know what? I can call on 85 because I know we're gonna be open. I'm gonna call him. Just. Just make everybody else job around you easy. That should be every player's mentality in the off season when I go back. They watch me in the offseason program, but God damn, who was this? Completely different. Completely different. Whatever. Whatever it may be.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Hey, you gonna have to get me the ball. I'm gonna make it so hard for you to want to go to throw to somebody else. You got to get me the ball. Call play.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right, right, right, right.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You a 84 gonna be first and second read in all the plays that you call. And even if I'm last read, you're looking at me first anyway. Cause you know I'm a win. That's how he has to approach it. I. I agree. Brandon. Be said. Look, last year was last year, the year before, whatever the case may be. This is a new. This is a new reset. We got a new coaching staff. We know what this kid can do. We believe he'll have a. He had an excellent off season. He had an excellent training camp. He had an excellent first game. Okay? Those are some nice things to build on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

But you're not going to cont. They're not going to give you grace forever. Oo.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You get. You get one year. You. You get one year. Especially if you don't have any issues or no hiccups. But if you have hiccups, you have issues and problems and you're not playing well. Okay? Some got to give. Some got to give.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

So wish the young man all the best. But you got to take it serious. And you got to take it serious. All that joking and climbing around. That's what. There's a time and a place for all that. There'll be time to play for all that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, you're gonna be. He gonna be all right.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Take, take, take care of what you need to take care of.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You heard me.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Huh? Huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He gonna be all right. He's down here with me.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

All right?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, man. Him and X. You know, I think I got. I got about seven more guys coming down with me for about a month? Yeah, we get a month. A month straight.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Now 30 years since the Cowboys last Super bowl appearance, Jerry Jones says he had let the fans down with his team's championship drought. Jerry said, I really can't accept just the thought of winning one Super Bowl. And then what?

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[Unc (Liberty City)]

I've got more time on my clock than in my mind and so I don't see it that way. I see a chance to put the team together and basically be knocking at the edge and get another one or get another chance at another one. It runs that it runs that way in my view. Make no mistake about it if you told me I could because I've done a lot of hitchhiking in my way in my life and I like to start you right now and hitchhike back to Dallas to win a Super Bowl. After 791 finish in 2025. Jerry promised changes. One chain will be the team's approach and free agency. Jerry said, I would bet you that we'll spend more money in free agency than we have. He talked about Ocho. They're going to redo the contract restructure contracts of CD Tyler Smith and Dak Prescott that a free 60 plus million now. They also talked about doing something with the 3D tackles contract that might free up another 20, $30 million. Now, you would have to overspend for George Pickens. We know that. You know that. I know that you're gonna have to overspend, but you should be okay with that. You brought a new. I think. Aren't they going to. I think they're going to a 3, 4. Like they go into a 34 defense, right? You go whatever you want. You can go to a 34, you go to a 25, you can go through a 335. You better have some hell raises over there.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, you got to. You need three. I'm gonna say it over and over again. I'm not sure why Jerry always does this every off season. Gets everybody hyped up, says all these things that he's gonna do. Doesn't really do him. He never really does it. No, he never really does him. And he gets everybody excited because they always believe in some of the things that he says over the years because he's.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Commencing now. Hell, he had me believe. I'm like, damn, Jerry about to spin. Jared, don't spend it free agency. I mean, you played Javonte Williams, six me. You could have had Derek Henry for eight. Never mind. But go ahead, Ocho. I see what you said.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, but, but, but, but listen, we all know what the Cowboys problems are. We always know the Cowboy struggles are. It's never been on the opposite side of the ball. Never been on, off inside of the ball. They've had great offense, but the issues of boys, their Achilles heel has always been on the defensive end. So again, obviously you, you've. You've. You've made some moves, you know, in the interior, but that's cool. But you still need impact players. You need one on, on the outside.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You need another one in your back line. You know, your secondary, you need. You need someone to, to anchor. To anchor that defense, you know, in the secondary. I mean, you don't have that. There's so many.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Definitely. Bland got to play better. He needs to play. Have the type of season that he played to get that contract. Ocho, right. You remember, he's picking up everything, taking it to the house. He. The pbus on point. He needs to play. He needs to have that type of season again. They need a backer. They need an inside backer. They need an inside backer. They do.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

They hadn't had one in a very long time. Van Once Van Den Bosch, the wolf hunter got hurt and continuously had the neck issues and had to retire. Yeah, they haven't had somebody in that position, but they got to get a hellraiser in that position. And as you said, they got to get somebody to go hunt the quarterback way.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, man, it's tough. I'm. I'm excited. I mean, I'm excited for the Cowboys. I'm not a Cowboy fan. I'm a fan of the players that play for the Cowboys. There's a difference. I'm. I'm excited for Dak and what they're going to do. I'm excited for CD And I'm. I'm very, very excited because he's been through a lot, obviously, based on what it. He's caused most of it, but I'm excited for pickings as well, you know, to. To have a season, whether it's in Dallas, whether somewhere else. I just. I just know he. He deserves to. To get his. Like everyone else has already gotten. That's came out with him. So hopefully Jerry does right by him. The fans obviously believe in the organization. They believe in Jerry even though, you know, things haven't worked out the past 30 plus years and not having any success. So, I mean, listen, you can be good, Ocho.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You don't realize how successful you can be as long as you don't care who gets the credit. Hey, you see, it's a great. You see that situation in Seattle? You see the situation in, in, in. In. In the Rams.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Less need and, and, and, and. And McVeigh, John Schneider, McDonald, Brett Veach, Andy Reid. You look at Howie and what, What? Howie Roseman in Philly. And, and, and what's the guy's name, the coach of Philly?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Who? Sirianni.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah, Sirianni. But, yo, as long as you don't care who gets the credit, you'll be right. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Jerry said he would hitchhike back to Dallas to win a Super Bowl. Jerry, you said a couple of years ago, hey, you don't know the right. The. The size of check I would write if you would guarantee me a Super Bowl. Well, ain't no guarantee. That's the thing we love about sports. Ain't no guarantee.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, no, ain't.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And it's easy for you to hitchhike. Hell, everybody go pick your ass up because they recognize who you are. You got.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You got to be careful. Are they picking up for the right reasons or for the wrong reasons?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I can't believe people still actually hitchhike. I mean, I see people. I mean, it used to be A big thing when I was a kid, Ocho. I mean, yeah. Grew up in. I grew up and came up in late 60s, early 70s with when hitchhiking was really a thing. And people, like, hitchhike. Where you going? Well, I'm headed. Okay, I'm headed that way.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm headed that way, too. Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

What the hell?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, today.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Hell, no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ain't no telling what's gonna happen to you.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

It is way, way, way too dangerous. So we're gonna see what Jerry. Jerry says they're gonna spend more money than they have, which is not true. Nobody has more money than a Cowboys. Nobody has more money than the Cowboys, but we're gonna see. They're gonna need to do something with Steel. I don't know if they restructure his contract, maybe they release him. I don't know. But they have said that Dak CD Tyler Smith restructures. They're gonna look at the. Restructured. Those 3D tackles, that's a great start. But they need corn. They need great, great exemplary quarterback play. They need a hellraiser in the middle of the defense. And they need an edge. They need an egg. Now, I don't know if they're gonna go with Trey Hendrickson in free agency. I don't know. I don't think that. D liner, I think his name was Blaine, that ran like 4, 6 from Texas Tech. He was booking. He was booking, so I think that's who it was. But Cowboys, y' all gotta keep Dak healthy. That's your best chance. Keep Dak healthy and upright. Upright and healthy. But your defense, you can't have your offense score 35 and your defense give up 38. It's time. It's time. Up for that, Ocho? Yeah, but I, I look, you know, they got two quality receivers. Ferguson, look, he's solid. He doesn't. He's not going to do anything extraordinary. I don't think he's a top five, top eight tight end, but he's solid. You know, you throw the ball, he'll catch it. Is he McBride or he one of these, you know, Harold Fanning Jr. He one of those guys? No, he's not. He's not Warren Loveland, he's not that. Hawkinson Laporta, he's not that, but he's. He's a. He's a solid guy. He can make plays when given the opportunity. And he should have a lot of opportunity because you got those two guys outside. Yeah, but I had Aaron, Rod. I said I was feasting. Oh, say I'M about to. Oh, I'm about to kill you today. Oh, my gosh. And Dak loves throwing to the tight end. Oh, yeah, that loves throwing to the tight end. So this. Look Cowboys, y' all got some catching up to do. Because I don't believe the Rams step back. And based on the way less need for the Rams and John Schneider from the Seahawks, the way they draft and the way they put teams together, you know how he's going to have a bounce back year. They ain't going nowhere, bro. So. And it's time. It's time. Hey, the, the. The. The Lions get laporta back.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

So now he's in the mix with Amin Ra and J. Mo. So at worst case scenario, Cowboys, you start like, like the seventh of the eighth best team in the afc, in the nfc, Ocho, because you're not putting them in front of the Rams, you're not putting them in front of the. The Seahawks. You're not putting them in front of Chicago, you're not putting them in front of the Lions, you're not putting them in front of the Bears. I'm not sure you putting them in front of the Packers. That's six teams right there. Are you putting them in front of the 49ers?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No. You know what's funny?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

17 right there. Yeah. Only 17s make the playoffs, Ocho.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Outside of all those teams you need, outside of the 49ers and all those teams you name named, all of them continue to get better year in and year out. Defensively. Yes, defensively.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

So with that being said, Jerry, you got your work cut out for us. But you say you gonna write, you gonna write some checks, man, we gotta take it back to work. The man say he gonna do that. I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He said he say the same thing every year. He just says it in a different way to get you excited every year. It's something different every off season. You know what? They're not talking about this enough. You know, let me come out and say something out. The move. The move the needle.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Hey, and as soon as they win one game, everybody gonna say, we them boys. We still them boys. Y' all not though.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I like them.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

But hey, I tell. I give. Give him credit, Ocho. Yeah, they don't drunk the Kool Aid for so long.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, they believe in it. They believe in it. Hell yeah. I'm starting to believe too.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

We will see what the Cowboys do 791 last year. Let's see if they can Expand that in 2026. Lions running back David Montgomery is denying a report that he wants to be traded or released by the team. ESPN Jeremy Fowler reported that Montgomery wants out of Detroit after a role was reduced in the Lions office last season. Rumor at the NFL scouting combine where the Lions would seek a day three draft pick, likely a fifth round selection in return for the seven year veteran. However, Montgomery responded to a tweet and implied that it wasn't true, writing Damn, dmo told y' all that. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It come from somewhere else. It comes some. It come from somewhere. Obviously you have, you have an agent, your agent might be doing due diligence, you know, behind closed doors based on how you feel and some of the conversations you and him may have had. Of course you haven't said it, but it doesn't just didn't come out of nowhere. Where there's smoke, there's fire. You know the conversation. Your role was reduced with alliance this year. Obviously Jameer Gibbs being a top running back in this NFL, there's a reason why, you know, your role was reduced because of how well he's played and to keep in, keep him into rhythm of the offense. I mean your role was reduced. You, you are to me, you are starting running back in this NFL and you can be just that. It just can't be with the Detroit Lions. So I do see David Montgomery going somewhere else that can use a very good running back right now. And one place I have in mind for him to go, where he would be perfect for that system would be over there in Houston. Yes, sir.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Did you see them guys rolling in the combat? You see them running backs? 4, 3, 4, 3, 2, 4, 3, 4, 4, 3, 5, 4, 3, 6, 4, 4.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, but I think you had to

[Unc (Liberty City)]

create the top 10. You had to be four, four. Hey, guess what, Ocho.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But also they cheap.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But with all that speed too. All that speed, there's only one I know about and I watched college football all season long. There's only one name that kept ringing all year long and that's Jeremiah Love.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yes.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So regardless, with all them 40 times, you know, as fast as y' all running, but it wasn't translating on onto the right. And then, you know, it even gets even harder once you get to the NFL because everybody fast.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So now everything else matters when it comes to playing the game of football than just being fast.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

I think the thing is what we know, Ocho teams like young running backs, that's why they so easy to disregard. That's why it's all. I think it's more probable than not. It's more likely that Candace Walker will be playing on somebody else's team next year. He's the super bowl mvp.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

That they feel. That's the one position they feel is the easiest to replace.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Unless you special. Yeah, you gotta be special. If you're not special, I mean, if you're extremely valuable, three down back you can do. You can catch the ball, you can line up in the slot. You can do a multitude of things at the position.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

There might, there might be less than five of those in the league.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Not, not five.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You look at, look at Jameer.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Five might be a stretch.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You look at Jameer, you look at cmac.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, that's two.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Probably Saquon three even what you call him. And I think he's, he could do more on the running down, but they take him out. King Henry. Yeah, but that's ain't a whole lot. Ain't a whole lot of, you know, getting, you giving, getting, getting opportunities like that, Ocho. No, no, no, no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You got to be special. You got to be special, Ocho.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

There was a photo that went viral today. I remember this. We took this in, we took this picture photo in June of 1992. It was 100, it was 102 degrees in South Carolina. They had us a damn starter jacket. I said I'm keeping that jacket. I. I had that jacket because we got to keep the jacket and the hat.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Where is it?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

I wanna if, if I got it. It's at my grandmother's house in, in Glenville.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, that's dope.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

But you know, starter start. Look, I don't know back then. What, man?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Stop playing, boy. Stop playing, man.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You'll not be my whole bag, man. Give me, man, let me get that jacket. Let me get that jacket. Let me get that jacket. Starter was the lick back, back in the 90s when that thing first came out. I, I think I' ma call Libby tomorrow and see Liberty. This jacket in the closet.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, Starter was a real deal. Coach used to have them on, on the sidelines. They used to be clean, boy. They used to be real fly, man. Yeah, I like starter jackets, obviously. I think I get an opportunity to wear starter much. Obviously. The jackets haven't started hats. Yes. But the jackets here in Miami, you know, it's too damn hot. Them jacks used to be so clean, bro.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

That's all 24 year old shape. That ain't number old. 24 year old Shay right there.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Are you only 24 that way 24. Okay.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You know what I'm saying? You know, it had no gray in sight. Boy, somebody would have told me I have gray hair. I'd have slapped him. You're a lie. Don't you ever say no foolishness like that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Well, you know, you know. You know you could all always put a little Rogaine on there. Make it black.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

That's Beijing. No Rogaine helps your hair grow.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No Rogaine. You it make it black, huh?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

No, that's just for men. Or Beijing.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay, my bad, my bad. I don't know. But a salt and pepper is suit you though.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Everybody likes salt and pepper suits.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, I can't. I can't wait to mine start growing.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

I gotta get that jacket back. I. I bet you my brother still got his.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You think they. I think. Listen, history always repeats itself. Especially when it comes to fashion.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Oh, they're cover. You think the starter jacket will come back in style?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They fight. They might even be back. We just don't know about it. I'm not sure if you start a jacket back probably so every hell everything else that came back.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Because I definitely got the poster. I got a poster. They did a poster with it and I definitely. I definitely had a poster. As a matter of fact I got it framed in my basement downstairs in. In. In Atlanta. Chad, the starter jacket back.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yes. That was the old old school Bronco logo. Sterling and Shannon Sharp. Everything you got. It's up to you. You know they shot your boy a quick little five. Little fire, right? Little five. You know, five bands. You know, little five something.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What year that was?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

92. Oh boy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

5092.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's a good chunk of change, boy.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

What? Oh, that's a good and considered off season. Ocho. I wasn't, I didn't. I wasn't making no money because of my contract. I have. Because I had on sign a two year deal, right. So I made 63 and 73. So I wouldn't have made a 5,000, you know. 5,000 do for me, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Stop playing.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Right? That's what I pay taxes on. This candy or whatever I'm buying. That's the only tax you will get, Uncle Sam. So take it out of that. Cause I'm using this whole 5K. Yeah, but it was bad. It was so hot. I remember walking out there cause we was at my brother's football camp.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

And I remember walking out there cause they said we got a commercial, blah blah blah. And I'm like well damn. And I remember looking and seeing him like, I know damn well. I say if we putting that on, I know we going inside, right? It's like, nah, you know, we're not gonna be that. I said, It's 102 now, mind you, Ocho, we had already been out there. My brother for the brother. You know, my brother used to have to put a football cap on at Spring Valley. So we had already been out there. And I remember, I'm like, well, damn, I'm like, well, man, we put this on, I ain't gonna be, hey, I'm gonna have to keep this. He's like, no, I can keep it. And then after being out there in the hot ass son and taking the pictures, we ended up, you know, then the guys would come because, you know, we have different guys come. I mean, one year we had my brother, had Barry, had Reggie White guys used to show up. Football campuses were the thing back then. Now I think guys do more golfing, golf events and stuff like that. I think a few guys still do football camps, but for the most thing, Ocho, they probably do golf or they play softball or something like that. Now I don't think people do as many football camps as they did back then because everybody had a football camp. But yeah, I remember, I saw that today. I was like, well, damn, where y' all get this from? But you know, oh, Shea, Ocho, it's time to play a fave presented by prize picks. Ah, okay. I've had two guys didn't run, but prize pick didn't hold it against us. Arvel Reese was supposed to run under 4, 4, 6, did that. KC Concepcion was supposed to run under 4.4. He did not run. Jeremiah Love, 4, 4 1, he ran 4, 3, 6. And Carson Beck 4.8 1, he didn't run. So, hey, we cash in, right? We got your paid. I thought I didn't hear him because I know he was, he was at the, he's at the podium and talking. He was talking about his speech impediment and stuttering and. And you know, he's. I, I think I read something where he said his mom said, God wanted you to say it was important. He wanted you to say it twice. So. But I thought he did a great job. It was great having him on, man. It was, it was so fun. It's always having get an opportunity to see these guys and when they come on, they kind of loosen up and kind of, you know, you know, let us inside. Let us, let us inside of who they actually are and see their personality. So that was Great. Here's the staff four picks, the flex play of head of tomorrow's NBA games. 2.5 turnover. Yeah, he handles the ball a lot. He gonna have over two and a half turn. I'm going over that. Kevin Durant, 25.5 points. He going over that. K Sean George under 2.5 assists now. He'll score a machine. K Sean George.

[Matt Rogers]

Hold on,

[Unc (Liberty City)]

man. Right now, what you call. They don't do nothing, right? The Bullets. Excuse me, the Heat. I mean the, the Wizard. Damn. Got me going back to the Bullets. That's how bad they being. They got it under two and a half assists. All right, we're gonna go on. We're gonna say under Nicola Jokic, 30 points, Denver. Oh, yeah, he going over 30. Yeah. $25 to win $150. Download the app today. Use code Shannon to get $50 off in lineups after you played your first first $5 lineup prize fix. It's good to be right. All right, we'll get out here on this one. Oo time to Cube and a big.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Let's go.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Oh, we going to see what you going to do. Oo big fight. You can only pick three. You got 50. Jay Z, Nas, Kiss and Biggie.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You can only pick three.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Jay only pick three. You got 50. Jay Z, Nas, Kiss, Biggie.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm going Jay Z, Biggie and 50. Jay Z big in 50. Hey, that Richard. Richard die trying. Jay Z, Reasonable Doubt and Biggie Smalls Blue Apple. The life after the life after Death, man. I mean that alone. Not, not, not taking any. Anything away from the other artists. But I'm just saying.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Oh, my goodness. Lord have mercy. That's tough for me. Two of no brainer is hoving Nas right now I gotta pick between Kiss and Biggie, right?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I mean, Nas is that boy as well.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I say Nas is that boy as well, but for sure, yeah, he's that boy. Crazy, crazy, crazy.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

You know what, Ocho?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Huh,

[Bowen Yang]

Man?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

I think kiss is underrated, man. People don't get kisses credit.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, you kiss nice now.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Oh, my goodness. I'm going. Damn. I'm sorry. Ho. I'm going. Nas kissing Biggie, man, that's.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's. That. Now that would bark that. That would spark a debate, but it's. It's your decision. It's your choice. That's. That's a good one, though. Yeah, I like that.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Okay. I can't leave. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't leave. I can't lead them to end up 3 off. I can't. Biggie was short.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, but boy, hey, it was short.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

A lot of damage.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And still. And still today.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah. The Notorious B.I.G. and Life After Death.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

T.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Glazing.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I don't.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

I don't know, bro. I don't know what. What we glazing. But anyway. June 1976. Hey, Ocho, have you ever taken advice from family friend or co worker only to tell yourself later, like, life, man, that was some bad advice.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, I've never. I've never had that issue. Most of the time, especially when it comes to family and co workers, I. I listen to their opinions, but actually taking their advice. No, I'll listen.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Well, yeah, in order for me. Yeah. In order for me to take advice, I gotta value a damn opinion.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Opinion. Yeah. Yeah. No, sir.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

80J5. 43. What are some of the guys you wish worked out in the NFL? Mine. Taylor Maze, Alden Smith, Terrell Pryor, Sean King.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, that. That's easy for me.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Well, go ahead, Ocho. You played with Taylor Maze. Came to Cincinnati, didn't he?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, I wasn't there. I ain't. I ain't that young.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Taylor Maze, the DB from. The safety from usc.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I know. Hey, I know I look young. I know I look young, but I'm 58 now. Yeah, that's. That's. That's the AJ Green era, ain't it? If I'm not mistaken, AJ Green and

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Andy Dawson, you might have been. You might be right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

O. Yeah, yeah. Hey, I look young. I know, but you know, I. I ain't played football in 20 years now. No, for me, it would be. It would be Peter work, especially. He wasn't in. In college. I. I would have loved him to have a very long, illustrious NFL career, but due to. Due to injury, obviously his knee, other players I would have loved to see. Have worked out, you know what? Bo Jackson. Huh?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I would have loved to have seen Mo play a long. A long career to see what his numbers would have looked like. I think that that would have been dope. We were robbed. We were robbed of that. We were robbed of Barry Sanders as well. Him becoming frustrated, just walking away from the game for whatever reason.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

But he got 10 years old, yo. Damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

So it worked out.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, it worked out, but he has so much more left on. He has so much more left. Hell, Calvin Johnson walked away from the game frustrated again with the same organization for. For obvious reasons. For. For those that don't know, obviously you. You know why. So I'm trying to think who else I would have loved to see. I mean, that's. That's the.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

That's.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's what I can think of off the top of my head right now.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah. Alder Smith was headed for a very, very special career if he could have just kept himself together off the field. Yeah, he was. People don't realize how good that defense they had. You know, they had Navarro, Bowman, they had Patrick Willis, they had Alden Smith. They had the other Smith that came from Cincinnati. I know you played with him. The big white dude

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

came from where?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

From Cincinnati. What was his name? Number 94.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Justin Smith.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Justin Smith. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, boy.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

That joker.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, he was. Justin with. Justin was nice, bro.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Hell, yeah, he was nice. Real Chris Moore. B. Scott was the last coach Kobe had, and for B. Scott to talk like that is crazy. JJ Is proving to be a better coach at this rate. But here's the thing, Ocho. If I talk good about somebody, that doesn't mean I'm trying to diminish another great player.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Kobe is Kobe. There is nothing. What LeBron does does not diminish what Kobe did.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, absolutely not.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

I wish me saying, man, Ocho was unbelievable. That don't take away from Chase. That don't take away from Pick. That doesn't take away from Isaac Curtis or downtown or downtown Freddie Brown. That don't take away from them. So saying LeBron has been unbelievable for the Lakers doesn't diminish what Kobe did. Kobe did that. It's etched in stone. Kevin Boat Knight, Ocho. Just sending love to y' all brothers. Love y', all, man. Keep it going. Appreciate that, Kev. Appreciate the support Juice High School to the pros. LeBron the best to ever do it, and it's not even close. One song sums it up. Bron career. What more can you say? Thank you, Braun. Yeah. Nobody has that level of expectation. Think about it, Ocho.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Most players that. The really good players, what do they do, Ocho? They go to college. They went to college. Kareem went three years, had Coach Wooden, and then he had what, probably another seven, eight, nine years by Pat Riley, Magic Bird. It's only a handful of the Will Russell, Tim Duncan, Magic Johnson. I mean, the list goes on and on. For this man to really not have. And he mentions his coach a lot as the dominant male in his life. But to go from high school, go from high school to the NBA and to. To. To do. To. To become what he's become. The husband, the father, the basketball player, the mogul, the entrepreneur. See Kobe's a little different. Kobe had a dad that played in the NBA, so he got something that he could pass down. He could talk to him. Kind of like Ocho Payton's father or Matthew's father. They had dads that played in the NFL. You and I didn't have no dad to play in the NFL. Now me was different. I had a brother that preceded me. So, okay, this is what you need to do. This is how you need to do it. But guys that didn't have that. So for LeBron to, to come out and be what he became. Yes, Knock on wood. No slip ups. That's a huge accomplishment, man. Huge. Brian M. The New York Giants. Who are y' all drafting? Jackson, Dark Weapon, Sunny Styles, Caleb Downs. Well, I, I think the thing is that they expect the Caleb Downs to be a little taller. All I know is somebody made those tackles. I know he's six foot tall, six and a half or whatever the case may be, but somebody did that. Somebody won the Thorpe Award. Somebody was a national champion. Somebody did that. I know Sonny Styles is. Is phenomenal. And hey, they're probably. They might take him.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Why not? I know they're not basing anything off of. Of height and all. I don't know. I don't know.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

He's not special.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, I've seen, I seen. I seen Earl Thomas last night on.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Did you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Not that big, huh?

[Unc (Liberty City)]

No, he's small, but when he was

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

on the field, he played like he was six, nine, boy. Sideline. The sideline. It's almost seemed as if that legion of boom. It was two of each of them out there on that field. Huh? That's what it felt. That's what it felt like, man. I mean, I'm not saying watching me and I didn't get a chance to play against him, like.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It was all over the place.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So all this, all the, all the measurables that they talk about. Oh, he's on this short. What do you look like when I turn on the goddamn film? Gives me a better understanding of the player. I'm him.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yep.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, you know, I went last night where.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Oh, you staff now, huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, I was, I was security in there.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

I was security.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. You know, I had. Went to my daughter track me was the SEC championship. University of Kentucky was running. Obviously, she did extremely well. She PRd down there in the 4. Then I watched her do the 4x4 on the third leg. She had to go get somebody on that Third leg. Yeah, she went and got her. I'm like, come on now. Come on, baby. She went and got him.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

She's a Kentucky, right?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, she had Kentucky. She in Kentucky and it was at College Station. That's why, that's how I ended up in Houston. And once again, never fails. I, I go to Houston once a year and obviously the times I've had to go with center because of the track meet, right? Boy, I tell you, I tell you, I tell you no lie.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Nice.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. It's dangerous out there. Boy, it's dangerous. I was, I was, I went out to Area 29 last night with Andre Johnson and Jonathan Joseph. Yeah, J Joe and EJ Edin James was with us as well and I, I used that, that opportunity to kill time because my flight was to 6:00' clock this morning. So yeah, I pulled it all nighter, left there about four in the morning. And

[Unc (Liberty City)]

you sound like me when I used to come to Vegas on Saturday night because I'm leaving on the first flight going back to Atlanta, right?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

At 6am yeah. So I go out, stay out all night, go back to hotel, get my bags and go to the airport.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, see my, I, I ain't really, I don't travel with nothing. I had my suitcase in the car and went straight from Area 29 to the airport and just, I just, I don't understand. I, I asked, I asked EJ as Andre, I say, I mean very, I mean, you from Miami, you got drafted to Houston, you never came back home. And, and I understand why. And I understand why, you know, and just I, I now I'm a little bit more disciplined as I've gotten older so I, I can appreciate my surroundings. But I, I, I don't see. I, I'm, I just, I'm at a loss for words. I'm at a loss of words.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Kevin Boat Knight said give JJ Brock Purdy watching work. Yeah, I bet he could work with, with Purdy. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy. Say, hey fam. What do y' all think about Adam Randall, Doc? I, we, I plum forgot. I don't know ho might have seen him, but I forgot who Adam Randall the goo a guy from my hometown that was at the combine.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

If the Raiders could land Malik Willis, could they trade the number one pick for substantial compensation? They could, but I don't think they're going in that direction. I think they're going to take Mendoza. I could see a scenario where Malik Willis ends up in Miami or Arizona. That's just me. Danny. Danny J Jr says Arkansas quarterback. Reminds me. Anthony Richardson, tall. He's six. Six, ocho. Way like 225. He ran four, three out of the world. Standing broad jump out of the world. Threw some nice deep balls. But I don't. I mean, watching him. Hey, we'll see. We'll see those kind of measurables, Ocho, you know, we like measurables.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, they ain't got nothing to do with. Never mind.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yo, Cade, what do you think? Sean Payton give up play call. Crazy to think two years ago, after 70 points of Miami Dolphins are dang near the same spot Broncos were with Russ. Yep. Yeah, he gave up. He said the new OC is going to call the plays. Well, that's why they promoted him. He was playing pass game coordinator. They promoted him and let Pete Carmichael go. Pete Carmichael Jr. Is now in Buffalo. He was on the staff in. In, if I'm not mistaken, in New Orleans with Sean, with Joe Brady. So, yeah, Miami's in a bad situation. They're tough. It's tough.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Because you got a quarterback that you're going to move on from, whether you trade him or release him. You owe him $454 million. Well, you're not gonna be able to trade him. I don't think you're gonna be able to trade him. I think they're going to end up releasing a mocho. You're gonna release. You're gonna release Tyreek? They've already released Tyreek. If they haven't, at least by the start of the new year. Chubb, they're looking to trade Minka, Fitzpatrick, probably release him. They're in a bad spot. They got a lot of heavy contracts. They went for it. It didn't pay off for.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, it didn't. It didn't. But, boy.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Daniel. Daniel Wells says. Ocho, how did Monica choose you to be in her video?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I mean, have you seen me? Look at me. What you mean, how does she choose me if I look this good now, imagine how I look 20 years ago. What you mean, how she choose me? I'm still top 10, top 10 most beautiful creatures on earth. What you mean how I just choose not to play into that character of being like, you know, like this GQ model? Like, I mean.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you feel me? My homeboy, Ocho. So he can be that. If he won't.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, I. I don't. You know, I. I mean, I'm the same guy who don't care why I don't care because I had on the same pants the past two months. And don't care. Why? Because, you know, I'm, it's me. I mean, look at me, you know, you know, sexy, you know, I just, you know.

[Unc (Liberty City)]

Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. That is my partner, Liberty City's own Chad Ocho. Cinco Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys. Thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier, head over to laportierconjac.com to purchase you a bottle if you're unable to find it in a state or city near you. The best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. The New York Knicks blow out the San Antonio spurs and Minnesota moves one game in front of the Denver Nugget. They take over the fourth seed thanks to a balanced effort. They got 21 points from Bone from an Ant man, 15 points from Bones Highland. They got 11 points from Nazarene. They got 14 points from Julius Randall as they overcome almost 35.13 rebound nine assist game from the Joker. But they win this ball game comfortably, 117 to 108 in Denver. Thank you again for joining us. I'm Unc, he's Ocho. We'll see you back tomorrow night. Sam.

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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