Nightcap Hour 2: CATS out the BAG in PHILLY + TEXANS WR Xavier Hutchinson joins after BREAKOUT Game + Ravens DOWN BAD + LeBron's DECISION 2.0 HOAX

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2 (October 9, 2025)

Host: Shannon Sharpe (w/ Chad Johnson)
Guest: Texans WR Xavier Hutchinson (after his breakout game)
Key Topics: Philly’s locker room drama, Texans’ offensive explosion, Ravens’ struggles, LeBron’s retirement “hoax”

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay’s “Nightcap” gathers Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and special guest Xavier Hutchinson of the Houston Texans. The trio tackles the rumor-laden Eagles’ locker room, gets into the momentum-building win for Houston, dissects the Ravens’ collapse, and rounds out the hour with sharp takes on LeBron’s latest “Decision” drama. The conversation is both deeply analytical and irreverently personal, filled with insider stories and signature banter.

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1. The Eagles’ Locker Room Meeting "Leak"

(Main Segment: 02:50–17:23)

Background & Reaction

• Reports broke of a “long, positive” meeting among Philadelphia Eagles stars Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley, and A.J. Brown. The conversation focused on team dynamics, but the leak upset several players.
• Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson debate whether such meetings actually need to happen given the Eagles’ 4–1 record.

Key Discussion Points:

• Players-Only Meetings:
  • The group agrees meetings usually mean something is wrong, but the Eagles are 4–1.
  • “Why are you having a meeting at 4 and 1 then, if everything is going to be fine?” — Sharpe (04:51)
  • Chad responds: “We need to nip it in the bud now before it continues to carry over.” (05:00)
• Media & Locker Room Culture:
  • They note it’s almost impossible to keep things in-house with today’s media spotlight.
  • “It’s the people, it’s the media that’s inside the locker room... The production of A.J. Brown, the production of Devontae Smith...is why they had to have that conversation.” — Johnson (05:34–06:01)

Offensive Identity & Frustrations

• Sharpe highlights that the Eagles aren’t repeating their offensive dominance, referencing stats and a “predictable” playbook.
• Quote: “If I’m A.J. Brown, I’m tired of these under—these slants. Give me an over. Give me a dig. Give me a comeback.” — Sharpe (16:11)
• Chad agrees: “There’s no creativity offensively.” (16:20)
• Both forecast that the upcoming division game vs. the Giants will show whether the meeting had real impact.

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2. Xavier Hutchinson Joins: Texans’ Big Win & Breakout

(Segment: 18:32–37:37)

Post-Ravens Blowout

• Texans WR Xavier Hutchinson comes off his 2-TD performance against Baltimore to join the show. The Texans scored 44 points, their highest output of the year.

Key Q&A:

• On team confidence:
  • “Anytime you can, you know, put up 44 points in the NFL, man, you're doing something right... The only thing we needed was just a little bit of confidence.” — Hutchinson (22:45)
• Did the Ravens’ injuries matter?
  • “It's the NFL … second string, third string, they’re still good football players... You gotta go in there with the confidence that, you know, anybody who lines up against you can get the work.” — Hutchinson (23:32–23:57)
• C.J. Stroud in the locker room:
  • “Seven’s a pro... he’s gonna come in every single day the same person... he always got some jokes under his sleeve.” — Hutchinson (24:42)
  • “You wouldn’t want anybody else as your quarterback.” (25:48)
• Will he be a bigger part of the offense?
  • “You gotta show it in game that you deserve to get the ball... capitalizing on your opportunities.” (26:27–26:47)
  • Chad: “They gonna add some more to that plate… subconsciously, the ball coming to you. And that’s some of the things you can’t coach.” (27:06)
• On Houston’s slow start:
  • “We was just causing like our own conflicts on O. Turnovers are gonna kill you late in the game. Getting behind in the chains early.” — Hutchinson (28:19)
• Juco Journey:
  • “In Juco, bro, it’s only one way it’s gonna go. You’re either gonna make it or you’re not gonna make it. Juco’s just going to teach you more about yourself than you probably know because you either gonna make it or you’re not gonna make it.” — Hutchinson (29:59)

Life and Football in Houston

• How do you stay focused with distractions in Houston?
  • “You gotta have a great backbone. I got a lot of people who believe in me, who want to see me make this something more than just being... Not For Long.” — Hutchinson (32:08–32:40)
  • “I want to make this a career; I don’t want to make it a job.” (32:39)
  • Hutch credits this mindset to teammate Robert Woods.

Personal Growth and Influences

• On improving as a WR:
  • “Always gotta fine tune your route running... when I got to the league, I realized, maybe I’m not as good as I thought I was.” — Hutchinson (33:47)
  • “I had this bad habit, bro… where I used to throw my head...I had a lack of confidence in myself that I couldn’t do something that I’d been doing for, you know, my whole life.” (34:10)
• Key Influences:
  • Hutchinson shouts out his brother and high school coach (“Coach P”), as well as his parents, for supporting his journey. (36:03)

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3. Ravens Struggling, Baltimore Down Bad

(41:16–47:47)

A Shocking Start

• Baltimore is 1–4, their worst franchise start since 2022, after being preseason Super Bowl favorites.
• Rashod Bateman’s quote: “The fans got every right to feel how they feel ... we deserve all the criticism.” (41:16)
• Chad: “You hope to get most of those key pieces to your offense or your defense back as fast as possible. If you fall too deep in a hole...the season is over at that point.” (41:47)

Why So Bad?

• Sharpe and Johnson assess whether the Ravens’ defense has lost its identity, with Sharpe insisting their roster is too talented to play this poorly.

  • “I’m not going to let y’all off the hook like that. Y’all gotta buck up, right?” — Sharpe (46:11)

• Chad and Shannon debate whether defensive injuries excuse the slide, with Shannon unconvinced: “You got four Pro Bowlers out of 11 starters. No, man, come on.” (46:11)

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4. Jerry Jones’ “Accidental” Middle Finger and NFL Owner Fines

(47:50–51:13)

• Jerry Jones is fined $250K for flipping off a fan, claims it was accidental.
• “How you get an accidental middle finger?” — Sharpe (49:49)
• Chad jokes about how such a fine is “gas money” for a billionaire like Jones.

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5. Around the NFL & NBA

A. Bengals, Jets, & Gambling Picks

• Chad and Shannon riff on the upcoming Bengals/Packers and Jets/Broncos games, with playful confidence in their respective teams. Shannon jokes about Nightcap penalty bets. (52:41–53:10)

B. Prize Picks “Player Fade” Segment (53:24–55:10)

• Reviewing stat over/unders for Saquon Barkley, A.J. Brown, Jackson Dart.
• “I’m going to go more… I’m going to say more.” — Sharpe on A.J. Brown receptions (54:37)

C. LeBron’s “Retirement Hoax” (55:10–61:52)

• LeBron’s rumored retirement was a marketing stunt, leading one fan to sue over ticket prices.
• “Y’all thought that man was gonna make that announcement?” — Sharpe (56:33)
• Discussion includes predictions on when/how LeBron will actually retire, with both hosts agreeing he’ll wait for his son, Bryce, to enter the league.
• “He ain’t leaving until Bryce gets there.” — Johnson (57:13)
• Analysis of how LeBron’s game has evolved with age, and parallels to Kobe Bryant’s final season.

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6. Audience Q&A, Cultural Banter, and Closing

(64:10–79:41)

• Listeners ask questions about pride in winning vs. losing, musical “versus” battles (Cash Money vs. No Limit), Bengals player jokes, and more.
• Shannon and Chad riff on potential acting roles, dual weddings, and life outside football.
• Shoutouts to family, playful teasing about fashion, and discussion of WNBA star A’ja Wilson’s legacy.
• “If Asia Wilson wins this championship ... she’s the greatest woman. I don’t know what else to say. Go argue with the wall.” — Sharpe (79:08)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On keeping things in-house: “You can talk till you’re blue in the goddamn face...it’s very hard. If things don’t change, certain individuals are still going to be mad.” — Chad Johnson (04:13)
• On star WR complaints: “Winning is a great deodorant because there are a lot of issues… Don’t show the cause to cause commotion when you win it.” — Sharpe (65:05)
• On self-improvement: “Juco gonna make a man out you. You gotta grow up quick… You either gonna make it or you’re not.” — Xavier Hutchinson (29:59–30:52)
• On LeBron: “Father Time hasn’t caught up to him yet. Can he do some of the things he did in his younger days? No… but you evolve.” — Chad Johnson (57:57)
• On A’ja Wilson’s GOAT status: “She’s special. She does it on both ends... Scored the most points in a single season in WNBA history. She ain’t done.” — Sharpe (79:41)

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Key Timestamps

• Eagles "leaked" meeting & team culture: 02:50–17:23
• Texans’ Xavier Hutchinson segment: 18:32–37:37
• Ravens in freefall: 41:16–47:47
• Jerry Jones fine: 47:50–51:13
• Player Prize Picks, predictions: 53:24–55:10
• LeBron’s fake retirement: 55:10–61:52
• Q&A and wrap: 64:10–79:41

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Tone & Style

The episode weaves analytical football discussion (the hosts’ specialty) with the lively, sometimes irreverent tone that defines Club Shay Shay. The player guest segment gives depth and personality, while the “hot takes” and fast banter (especially between Shannon and Chad) keep the energy high and the insights accessible.

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For non-listeners:
You’ll leave this summary with a clear sense of the episode’s big sports stories—how NFL locker rooms really work, the ups and downs of a breakout NFL player, how the mighty can fall (Ravens), plus the lighter side of pro sports culture. Shannon Sharpe keeps it real, Chad keeps it wild, and Xavier Hutchinson provides a fresh athlete’s voice. Expect memorable, quotable moments and a behind-the-helmet look at today’s game.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Johnson]

Bus and we had like three hours.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

It was really cool. He really just like randomly showed up to my house and like, oh, hey, Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Reports surfaced of a meeting between Jalen Hurts, saquon Barkley and A.J. brown. According to the Philly Voice, it was a long, positive conversation that lasted a couple of hours. Let's take a listen to what Hurst and Saquon had to say about the meeting.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

It's really just teammates being teammates. What was your takeaway in the conclusion of the meeting?

[Chad Johnson]

Say it again.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

What was your takeaway?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Conclusion of the meeting.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

I don't want to make this about that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. We got a short week. We got a, you know, the division opponent coming in here.

[Chad Johnson]

I enjoyed every second of it, and I'm enjoying every second of every opportunity.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

We have to improve.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I wouldn't definitely say it wasn't.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Like a players meeting. When you hear players meeting, that's like.

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[Xavier Hutchinson]

It wasn't that at all. But also, we're teammates. We're all friends. Like, we were just having a conversation. And I personally wish that wasn't out there, to be honest. But, you know, people saw us having a conversation and they got out there. But I don't think we need to make too much of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Our main focus is on the Giants. They seem very upset that this got out, that this was leaked.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, you know, you can't have no conversation like that if you're gonna have a conversation like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody else, if three people involved. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on, hold on. It's three people involved. But, you know, before they had that conversation, I'm sure someone told them, you know what, you need to go. You guys, all those that wear that C on their chest. Yeah. You have a conversation. And whoever appointed them to have that conversation told somebody else. And then it got out, you know, that you can't. It's. You know how difficult it is to keep some in house. You know how difficult that is? Yeah, it's very hard. And you can talk to your Blue in the goddamn face. Still, if things don't change from an offensive perspective, Certain individuals are still going to be mad. They're still going to be upset. And that. That. That's just the way it's going to be. They're going to be fine. They're four in one. They're going to be fine. They're the Philadelphia.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why are you having a meeting at 4 and 1 then, if everything is going to be fine? Like you said, why are you having a meeting at 401? What? Four and one team, you know, had a meeting.

[Chad Johnson]

Can I tell you? Can I tell you why?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

We need to nip it in the bud now before it continues to carry over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What are we nipping in the mud, huh? We lost one game. That's the first time we lost in 13 weeks, right?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah, you're right. But I'm just saying all the noise, all the outside noise.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought you said you don't. I thought they say they don't pay attention to that. I mean, obviously they do, because I'm just going about. Chat back me up here. They say they don't hear that. They don't focus on that. We in this locker room, all I care about what the coaches and the players say. So why you care about what's being said outside the locker room?

[Chad Johnson]

It's not. It's not about what's being said outside the locker room.

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[Chad Johnson]

It's the people, it's the media. It's the media that's inside the locker room that is the voice of reason for those that are outside because they're asking the questions. And the questions that the media's asking shouldn't be based on anything about our offense. The production of A.J. brown, the production of Devontae Smith and. Devontae Smith and A.J. brown coming out and displaying their displeasure with the lack of offensive production and then being able to contribute to the offense is why they had to have that conversation. That's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just. Look, it's. It's Ocho. It's just hard. It's gonna be. It's hard for the fans. It's hard for an organization, right? You win a championship, you four and. Oh, and somebody's complaining about targets, about balls. I'm. I'm. You've been in locker rooms and you know how they think. Yeah, see, that's the thing about. See a chat. Y' all let Ocho fool, y'. All. Ocho know how front officers think.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think. Look there, I've happened to be a part of a couple of meetings, you know, What? Ocho, I've never been in the eat A meeting where we discussed X in the nose.

[Chad Johnson]

No, no, that's not those meetings before.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't never been no eating meeting. And said, Man. Man. 2 Jet Flagger Drive. John, you need to throw me the ball of T.J. flagger Drive, man. I was hot on 50. Bingo pick. There's been none of that. It's always displeasure. I got a problem with you.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got a problem with you. I got a problem with something you said.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Normally. That's normally how it works. And look, like I said, I've been in. I've been in the locker room. I was in the locker room for 14 years. A lot of times I was the voice of reason. A lot of times I was the guy that resolved the issues. Because I'm. I'm gonna shoot you straight.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like everybody. You're my teammates. But when it comes right down to it, I'm gonna say and do what's in the best interest of the team. Because at the end of the day, I'm here to win. I ain't here. Cause we go our separate ways. I don't know, you might come back to the. You know, you might come back to the reunion. You might not. You might come back to the alumni thing. You might not. So there's a good chance I might not ever see you again.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

But.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But in the meantime, while I'm here, I'm gonna do what I'm here to do, which is win effing games. And I'm not gonna let you, you or you F that up.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So whatever we need to do. And I'm saying this, it ain't gonna be a second meeting. We gonna get whatever we got. I get out. We gonna get that ish out today.

[Chad Johnson]

Right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It ain't gonna be no more meetings now. It ain't gonna be no meeting. No two on. No one on one. So whatever it is. And boy, you know me, if I got somebody, I got some of my chest. You should have told me that because it's on the table. Whatever's on my chest is on the table because I'm telling.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, we gonna see the results of that meeting on Thursday. Wait, wait. Oh, that's tomorrow. They playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I guess it's got to be Washington or the Giants. They said a division rival.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, that's gonna be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think they're playing the Cowboys, so it's one of them.

[Chad Johnson]

If it's a commander, that's gonna be A good game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, my goodness. Jaden Daniels back. Jayden Daniels coming off a good win, going back home to la. Oh, that's gonna be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's just hard. But I. Like I said, Ocho, I. I just. Me. When I won the championship, I don't care. I called a couple of passes. Hey, I ain't got no big stats in any of the Super Bowls. All I know is I got a three by mine and a zero. And I got a three in the first column and a zero in the second column. That's all I care about.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, they playing the Giants. They playing the Giants.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They play the Giants.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So I like. Like I said, I know they're upset that it got out. Yeah. I mean, they knew we were gonna have a meeting. We have no choice after what was going on. We had already lost three games, and things were starting to unravel.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait, three in a row?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Ocho, we. Man, we started the season. We lost to Pittsburgh, we lost to Kansas City, and we lost the same friend. And then the incident happened with J.J. stokes. That thing.

[Chad Johnson]

Them good teams now. Y' all ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What the hell you think we were. Okay, so let me tell you what happened, Ocho. So we got a. We got. We got the thing. We got the meeting. Mike said what he had to say. Mike said we gonna leave. Cause they already there. I had already put that. We got to get this thing. We got to get this. We got to settle this.

[Chad Johnson]

Right?

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mike got up, walked out. Mike said we gonna leave. Y' all take as much time as you need.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait, this was Romo, right? With Romo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that was. That was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. But there was a lot of. That had been festering. There's a lot of stuff that been going on. Guys been bull driving, guys kiki keying, guys not paying attention, guys slacking at practice. And you let that ish go, right?

[Chad Johnson]

Y' all got that together, huh? Y' all got it together, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wouldn't won the Super Bowl. And then we went, and then we went, and then we backed it up. Yes. We played the Seahawks that final game. Beat the brakes off of them and got Jacksonville in the first round. Owed them an ass cutting for what they did the previous year. And we blew the dose off of.

[Chad Johnson]

Rush for 300. Who was the quarterback then? Garage.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, Brunel.

[Chad Johnson]

Brunel. Mark. I forgot Mark.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With Kenan and Jimmy. Yes.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

What?

[Chad Johnson]

Jimmy did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not enough. We had 300 yards rushing. We had two guys go over 100.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait, you had 300 on that defense?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, after they had already talked all that stuff. Ocho, check this out. The year they beat us, they lost the AFC Championship game to the. To the Patriots, right? So, you know, back then, if you lost the AFC Championship game, your reward was to go coach in the Pro bowl, okay?

[Chad Johnson]

That's right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The team that won the championship got to go to the Super Bowl.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I get over there, Ocho, you thought they. They. That was Vince Lombardi staff, the way they talking, right? I say, you don't say so. You know me, Ocho. I come back, I tell Mike, Mike, you ought to saw how they was talking over there. You'd have thought that was Vince Lombardi, a Bill Walsh. He was like. I said, yeah. I said, guys, man, you ought to see how they was talking. They was talking reckless, right? Everybody, like, really? And then Mike said, you know, guys, when they found out that they were gonna play us in the first round in the playoffs, everybody on the plane applauded. They started cheering, oh, we gonna get. We got them again. We gonna beat them again. Okay, man, why Mike say that? I don't know if that's true or not. But you know what? He said it, so it was true, right? I said, look here, we got out that thing. Hey, we got out there. We got to go to a practice. I said, look here, man, I don't know what's gonna happen, but I just know them motherfolds ain't gonna beat us, right? I say, TD, hey, TD used to always ask me, he said, 84, what it looking like? Backside. Come see me. You weren't getting down. See me.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, he go one way and cut right back on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come see me. I'm on the back side. How's handle that front side. I'm coming back side. All he needed to know that my DN wasn't gonna put his helmet on his hip. That's all he needed to know.

[Chad Johnson]

Once you make that cut, I say, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I say, td, either I'm gonna wash him down or that hole gonna be there. Take your choice.

[Chad Johnson]

Either go in or go out, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, talking to us like we what?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, somebody see I look like a youth pastor.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Kevin Patulo. We've done a good job. We've done what we need. We've moved the ball at extremely high rate. Some stats, three and out rate, 32nd worse since the 49ers in 2005. Punts play, 31st yards game, 30th yards play, 29th. First down play, 28th. How you feel? Think about with those stats. That just goes to show you that they. With those stats like that. Ojo, you're not repeating.

[Chad Johnson]

Nope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's be real. I mean, Chad, I don't. I see, that's the thing. See? Three and out. You 32nd and three and out. So, Cho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, Unc, the way you won last year, you know, everybody got film on you, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you.

[Chad Johnson]

Notice you can't run the ball this year if you're going to repeat. You got to evolve offensively.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to win it the same.

[Chad Johnson]

Way you won it last year. You just can't. And obviously, you think about the Chiefs and the Chiefs continuously going back to back to back. Even with their struggles they had, they find other ways to win. Obviously, they're. They're schema. They're schematically built differently than each year. The Philadelphia Eagles are damn near one dimensional if you think about it. Because if we can't run, then what do we decide to do? We have no choice but to throw.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. But they know you're going to throw.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Which makes it. Makes it even more difficult.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. And it makes it even easier for the defense. Is the route concepts. How the hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Rudimentary.

[Chad Johnson]

How the hell can I look? How can the hell I can. I don't even play for the Eagles, but I can tell by alignment and down the distance wherever A.J. brown is lined up or wherever Devonte Smith is lined up. And I can call the route out before they even run it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They. Look, they got a simple concept. They'll put AJ outside and they'll put devonte Adams in the slot. Devont. AJ will push up, run to under. Devonte either gonna try to rub and get wide and run the goalball.

[Chad Johnson]

And if they. And if. If they don't do that, what they do is they. They run. They. They run double damn. What you call it? Damn. How you say it? Damn. Damn. It slipped my mind. Both of them on the same side.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Boom. I know what I mean to say. If Devonte Smith is on the ball and AJ's off, it's double slaying every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Double slant every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm like, if I'm A.J. brown. Like, I'm tired of these under. I'm tired of these sleds. Give me an over. Give me a dig. Give me a comeback. Give me a square out. Give me something.

[Chad Johnson]

There's no creativity offensively.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they've got. They've gotten to get better. They got. They've got to get better offensively. Defensively, I think they're fine. They're playing a lot. Defensively, they're playing a lot more than what they played last year. So that's why the defense, Jalen Carter got getting better shape. Jordan Davis is, is in phenomenal shape. Jalen. Jalen got to get in better shape. He's got to get in better shape. Secondary, I think they're five. Secondary. Mitchell is, is, is, is really, really good. Cooper De Jean is doing what he does. Blankenship. But they. And it's tough like you said, Ocho, everybody know you want to play cover too and just want to rush four. They like. Nah, bro. Ain't gonna work. Nope. That ain't gonna work. That ain't gonna work. So we'll see what comes of this meeting.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm excited.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You excited?

[Chad Johnson]

Matter of fact, that means they play at 7:30 tomorrow, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They play at 5 something. Well, I don't know what, where. I mean, if you're on the east coast, it's 5, 8, 20.

[Chad Johnson]

So I landed, I land in London, 8 o' clock on Saturday. So that's where. That's six hours ahead. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you leaving Friday?

[Chad Johnson]

No, I leave, I leave literally like it's 11 o' clock now. I leave, I leave in what, one, two, three. Like in five, six hours.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, it ain't gonna be Saturday over there. Oh, sure. They only six hours ahead. It'll be Friday over there. It'll be Thursday.

[Chad Johnson]

Right? That's what I'm saying. I'm making it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You said you're gonna be Saturday. You said you're gonna get there six hours.

[Chad Johnson]

No, uncle, I get there tomorrow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thursday.

[Chad Johnson]

I land Thursday night at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You said Saturday.

[Chad Johnson]

No, Thursday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I know tomorrow is Thursday.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad. I'm just trying to make sure I don't miss the game. I'm. I'm still gonna be able to see it, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They might have it on the plane. Nah, it's Amazon Prime. No, they're not gonna have it on the plane.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, Hutch, man, where you been at, man?

[Xavier Hutchinson]

I've been here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's welcome to the show Texans wide receiver Xavier Hutchinson. He caught two touchdown passes in the 4410 win over the Ravens. This was the first time the offense scored more than 26 points all season.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Save, bro. With the. With the offense exploding in a way that they haven't all year long, do you feel this is what the doctor ordered to get you guys out of the funk and get you guys headed in the direction that you want to go?

[Chad Johnson]

Sure.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

I mean, anytime you can, you know, put up 44 points in the NFL, man, you're doing something right. And I feel like, you know, correct. The only thing we needed was just a little bit of confidence, man, and that's what you're gonna get with a win in the league. So I feel like we heading in the right direction. It's only about us, you know, being consistent now.

[Chad Johnson]

And, you know the funny thing, too, offensively, Hutch, not only for you, obviously, building your confidence and getting some of those passes, getting that trust from your quarterback and knowing that, okay, this is someone I can count on. This is someone I can trust in times of need. Do you look at it, the fact that the Ravens were depleted defensively and had so many starters out. Do you guys look at that and say, well, we don't care about who's hurt. Whoever we line up in front of, they gonna get that work and carry that same mentality into you got to.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Right? I mean, it's the NFL, like I said, man. So, like the second train, third train. I'm still good football players at the end of the day, so, like, you gotta go in there with the confidence that, you know, anybody who lines up against you can get the work. And, you know, unfortunately, you know, they had a lot of injuries. I mean, you know, that's a part of the game, but, you know, you can't really. You can't. You can't lie. You can't really think about that. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, at the end of the day, yeah. Hey, I don't care if you're out there with a cane in a wheelchair. I'm gonna go buy you.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

You got to. Right, like, that's just like, you got to be a little. You gotta be a little crazy, right, with your thoughts and your thinking. Like, you gotta have that type of mentality, or else you're just not gonna succeed in the NFL.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cj. What's the. What's. What's cj? What's CJ like in the locker room, practice field, the bus. We know he's on the. He's a competitor. Obviously, he wants. He had that sensational rookie year. Took a little step back. He seems to be now with this big win over the Ravens, dropping 44, throwing, I think, through four touchdowns, clean game. What. What's CJ? What's CJ like? What's he been like?

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Seven's a pro. Like, I know a lot of people, you know, that. That can get tossed around a lot of different ways, but seven a pro, man, like, he gonna come in every single day in the same person. And I mean, when you have that type of success, man, like, you know, you can change quickly, right? But he got set. Like, his morals, his moral compass, what he believes in, like, that keeps him grounded as a person and then as a football player first. And as a person, bro, he funny, bro. He always joking around. He always got something to say. You know how those Cali people be, bro. They always got some jokes under their sleeve. They always want to jokes with you, rank with you, but that's just like, that's just who he is as a person. Brand. Like, you wouldn't want anybody else as your quarterback, right? Like, you want somebody who gone. He walked. He walked through the door. You know, he, you know, like, he know, you know, he in there. Like, you know, he in the building. And that, you know, that gives you confidence too. Like, you know, I'm catching the balls from seven. I'm making plays with seven. Seven trusted me to throw me the ball. Like, man, that's a good ass feeling. I won't lie to you.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. You know what's funny? What I want to ask, and not to give too much away, when you have a game like you had, right? Do you see the offense getting you a little bit more involved? Seeing that you can also be a playmaker outside of them always keying on Nico Collins or. Or other players Now. Now we have another weapon in Hutch. Now y' all got to focus on, you can't double goddamn Nico all day because Hutch are killed.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Yeah, I mean, I'm an athlete. I'm a competitor, bro. Like, so, like, obviously, I'm a receiver, too, you know, so, you know, like, I want the ball. Naturally that's gonna happen.

[Chad Johnson]

Like.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

You'Re going to want the ball. So, like. But, you know, the first thing that I go back to is, like, you got to show it in game that you deserve to get the ball or that, like, you're. You're worthy of getting the ball. And then also, like, in the heat of the moment, you gotta capitalize on your opportunities that you get. Cause you're not gonna get too many. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they may throw you some if you don't capitalize on them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Xavier Hutchinson]

You don't know when you gonna see your next opportunity. So, like, for me, it's really just always been, like, just being consistent, showing up every day, making the plays when I'm, you know, giving the plays and then going from there. So it's like, I, you know, I would like to hope so I have the answer. But, like, you know, I would hope so. But at the end of the day, too, I got control.

[Chad Johnson]

I got control. Listen, I understand the game of football. I understand the game of football. And they always reward those that they can count on in the most important times. So even if you haven't seen it yet, I can tell you, whatever your plate looks like before last week, they gonna add some more to that plate. They gonna add some sides. Yeah, I'm telling you. I'm just telling you what's gonna happen. And subconsciously, because your performance against the Ravens, if they don't call it seven coming to you any goddamn way. Because he's gonna remember. Damn. When I needed him most, man, Hutch was right there. Subconsciously the ball coming to you. And that's some of the things that you can't coach. You can't coach that. There's some things you can't coach. It just. It's in the quarterback's mind. They always remember, who can I count on in times of need? And when you show up the way you do, when you make the most of the few opportunities you do get, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right.

[Chad Johnson]

If you go for 150 this week, just know. Just.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Just no. For sure I will. I'm gonna shout you out. For sure. I got you eggs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why do you think you guys got off to such a slow start this year?

[Xavier Hutchinson]

I mean, if you really look at, like, how we played in those three games, like, we was in the game the entire time. Right. Like, granted, we got, you know, one of the best defenses in probably the league, so you always gonna naturally be in games. But, like, we was just causing, like, our own conflicts on O, you know what I'm saying? Like, turnover's gonna kill you late in the game. Getting behind in the chains early. Like, can't no offense be successful when, you know, you sitting in 1st and.

[Shannon Sharpe]

20S, playing behind the sticks.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Yeah. So it's like you, like, you already playing a good team because it's the league, of course, but also, you're not helping yourself when it's first and 20, second and 15. Like, it's hard to get a game going like that. So, like, right, you just got. You gotta be in front of the sticks. That's what the league is, man. If you stand in third and four, third and five the whole game, you're gonna most likely convert them because, you know, you got good players. So it's like, man, just not beating ourselves up. Especially in, like, the heat of the moment, I feel like, is why we got off to a slow start a little bit. But also, like, them slow starts teach you a lot, though. Like, man, you had a slow start, so what? Nobody really cares. You know, the world gonna talk, you know, crazy about you. But we all know what we got inside our building, what we can do on any given day. So it's like, man, you just gotta keep that in the back of your mind, too.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

You go from blend Junior College, Iowa State, and then to the NFL, you went the juco route, Cam, everybody knows Cam went to Blend and then the Iowa State. So what was your thought process? So when you went to Juco, man.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

And Juco, bro, it's only one way it's gonna go. You're either gonna make it or you're not gonna make it.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, Santa Monica genie Palace, right?

[Xavier Hutchinson]

See, you know it, so then you know it then. Like, it's so much talent that go through juco that probably nobody's ever heard of, nobody's ever seen before, you know? Like, that's just the sad truth about Juco. Like, you gotta grow up very quickly, and you gotta learn from the mistakes that you made in the past. So really, I tell you, like, Juco gonna make a man out you. Like, if your parents aren't he dead. I'm not throwing like my parents, man. They may raise the great man because I'm here today. But juco taught me how to be a man and how to, like, take you take them licks on the chin and get back up. So it's like juco is just going to teach you more about yourself than you probably know because you either gonna make it or you're not gonna make it. And you can't really blame nobody for you not making it or making it. It's all on you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we got a lot of guys. Ocho at Savannah State, from Juco, Itawamba, Kah. What's that one? There's one in Kansas. We had you from Alsworth. What's the one? Coffeeville. We had. We had a bunch of juco guys.

[Chad Johnson]

You know what, where you, where are you from?

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Jacksonville, Florida. Slash St. Augustine, Florida, bro. Come on now.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man, stop playing. Hold on. I want to ask you, right? And I always want to ask people that actually live in that wonderful city that I, I, I don't, I don't like. I don't like the jungle. I call it the jungle. What's it like living in Houston?

[Xavier Hutchinson]

It's different.

[Chad Johnson]

Is it difficult?

[Xavier Hutchinson]

It is difficult. A little bit. Just cause like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, real difficult. Real difficult, Ex. You know what I'm saying?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, I feel like you saying.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Difficult for a little bit of different reasons than what I'm saying difficult for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's difficult. Whatever.

[Chad Johnson]

Difficult is difficult.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whatever your difficult is, I can't bicker with that.

[Chad Johnson]

I didn't transition away from football because I've been to Houston one time.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And I ain't coming back. I've been there twice. I ain't coming back no more because I can't deal with that. So I'm trying to understand how do you focus in season when you got all that around.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

You gotta have a great backbone. Gotta have a great backbone. I gotta, I surrounded people who, like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who love, you know, why you there, ex.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

And who care for me and want to see me be great. So, like, really trusting in, like, my family, my family, my backbone, my girls, my backbone. So you know what I'm saying? So it's like I got a lot of people who believe in me, who want to see me make this something more than just being, you know, what the NFL stand for? Not for long.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I know.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Me personally, I want to make this a career. I don't want to make it a job. So when.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait a minute.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, bro.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Come on, Come on.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on, I gotta write that down. Hold on. I gotta write that down. Hey, say it again.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Not a job.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't lie to you, though.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

I can't lie to you, though. I did get that from somebody, though. I got that from Rob woods, man, my first year in the league. He told me that. So I'm also throw him a little shout out, too. So shout out to Rob woods, man. I appreciate you, brother.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, he gave me.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

He gave me great gems. He gave me great gems.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Check this out, Ocho. This is your. This is your. I'm gonna throw this up for you, Ocho. And then you. This man was praised for his route running ability when he came out of college.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So now that you, You, You. You can run the routes, what are you working on now? What are you trying to get better at now to make you that complete receiver? Because, yeah, look, running routes are fine, but, hey, I got to be strong at the point of attack. I got to be able to. Hey, I got to be able to high point the ball to 50, 50 balls. I got to be able to run after the catch. I got to be able to block. What are you working on to make yourself that complete? Complete?

[Xavier Hutchinson]

I would say I'm, you know, I'm still fine tuning my route running. You know, when I got to the league, I learned a lot. Like, I thought I was a really good route runner. And then I got to the league and I realized, you know what, bro? Maybe I'm not as good as I thought I was. I'm being fr, though, because you go against up a lot of good DBs, man, and like any of the little small.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You was tipping your routes. Were you tipping your.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

I won't lie to you. I had this bad bro. I had this bad habit, bro. I had this bad habit where I used to throw my head. So I throw my head to the right. That means I'm going left.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why would you. Why would you tell me which way you going?

[Xavier Hutchinson]

But it was like a little bit of. It was like, man, I didn't. I won't even lie to you. I didn't believe that, like, I could get open. You know what I'm saying? Like, I had a lack of confidence in myself that I couldn't do something that I've been doing for, you know, my whole life. And so really, I made that a long answer, but always got to fine tune your route running. Always. That's something that you can never get, like, perfect at. You always got little small things. And then two. I probably definitely say, like, the catch point, man. Like, just trusting my hands, sticking the men's down there and grabbing the ball.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't catch with them.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

You can't for sure. You definitely catch with your Eyes. I also learned that too. So look, see, you always learning something new every day.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey, listen, listen. When you wanna. When you wanna get a little work in about, you know, with them feet, you know, come on down there for a little.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

All you gotta do is hit me up, bro.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you know, I got. I got. I got wide receiver workshop. I got a little wide receiver workshop in June or July.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

I didn't get it last time. I get it this time.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, I got you.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

I got you.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, I'm getting to everybody this time.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

I'm there.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I need all I can get. I got. I got a whole lot of knowledge.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

I'm knowing I crossed the water for you. Well, I promise you, boy, I come. Hey, it don't matter where I'm at, bro. I drop all my plans, bro. I'll come out there for sure.

[Chad Johnson]

Appreciate it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Give me some of your strongest influence. When you were growing up, who were some of the big influences? Maybe as a parents, maybe with a coach. Maybe it's someone that you saw. Give me some of your influences that help shape what we see here today.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

I mean, honestly, I think it starts with, like, no brother. My older brother. I wouldn't have probably played football without him. You know, I wanted to be like him. Like every little young sibling, you want to be like your older brother. So I wanted to be like my brother. And then two, I. I probably really say my receiver coach in high school, man, Coach P, he the one who kind of made me transition to being an outside receiver, like, my senior year in high school. He saw something in me that I like, you know, I didn't really see in the moment. And so, like, a lot of props to him, bro, for, like, just believing in me, seeing my potential, and maybe, you know, I didn't see it. So I give a lot of props to him. And then, you know, can never leave out your parents. My mom and dad, they raised me to be the man who I am. So I probably say them. Definitely. Probably my biggest influencers.

[Chad Johnson]

That's dope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, congratulations on your breakout game. Continue success, stay healthy, and when you have some more success, come back.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Yes, I will. This will be the first show I get on.

[Chad Johnson]

All right, listen, wait, before you go. I don't mean. I don't mean to beg. Right. You know, I don't really come to Houston often, but when y' all next.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Home game, I think in two weeks, we play the 49ers.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, you know, if you. If your boy go ahead. If I catch me a spirit fight out there, Man, Can I get.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Come on, bro. You always welcome, bro. We gonna celebrate you here in H town, man. Come on now.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. You want to go to Area 29 with me?

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Hey, I gotta focus on this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, X. He don't need but one ticket. I'm gonna sit this one out, but.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

I wish y' all I appreciate that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, man. That was good.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Appreciate y', all, man.

[Colin Coward]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho Rashad Bateman acknowledged today that it's kind of shocking to himself and the rest of the organization that the Ravens are off to a 1 in 4 seconds start, which is tied for the worst in franchise history. The preseason betting favorite to win the Super Bowl, Baltimore has now lost three straight for the first time since 2022, including back to back losses of 17 points or more. Bateman said the fans got every right to feel how they feel. They expect excellence. It's our job to deliver that. We're not upholding the standard right now, so we deserve all the criticism.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey listen, this is a game of football. Huh? It's a game of football. You know, things happen when you have injuries. Most of the time you're not able to play as well as you did the previous season. When certain important pieces to your offense or your defense are hurt, that's, that's just the way it goes. Most of the time we always say next man up. But when it's too many of those next men that have to be up, this is what you get. You get, you get one in four. So you hope to get most of those key pieces to your offense or your defense back as fast as possible. Because if you, if you if you fall too deep in a hole, you go to 1 and 5 and you look up, you go to 1 and 6. Well, hell, the season is over at that point. You just playing for pride in the name on the back of the jersey and the symbol on the helmet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What'd you do? You. You went out. You were the glitching Ocho. What you doing?

[Chad Johnson]

I ain't doing that. I'm sitting right here looking at you.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

You can't hear me.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah. That's all you talk about, me. That's your. That's your dial up WI fi.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I paid for it.

[Chad Johnson]

I paid for that. Vance in my hotel.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, I can't hear you.

[Chad Johnson]

Ask. Can you hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ash, I. I hear you.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Hey, Chat. Once again, Chad is not me. We're having technical difficulties. And that's on. That's on Shannon's end. But anyway, I can sit here and talk to you guys. I'm not sure what y' all doing. I'm not sure we out. But again, I want to thank all of you for being here with us tonight, and I want you to do me a favor. Don't forget, go to our Instagrams, go to our Nica Instagrams and vote for us, because there's no reason why we shouldn't be in first place. We should win this by a landslide. And I mean that in a respectful manner to our competitors. You know, they. They do their thing. They do their thing, but what we got here is different. It's different. You know, that's. That's all love to all our competitors, but we should be number one. So when. Thursday, when the voting ends Thursday, we should be number one by a landslide.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, can you hear me now, Joe? You can't hear me?

[Chad Johnson]

I'm just playing. I can hear you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got me?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I got you. I heard you. I heard you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I don't know what's going. Look, with the Ravens. Remember expectations? They were the betting favorite to win the Super Bowl.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So now here we are, five games into the season. We won in four.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but you have to understand, why were they betting? Favor zone. Look how they ended the season. I know. They ended on a sour note, but he played well throughout the season. Lamar had a historical season. 471 touchdowns, now four interceptions. You know, so you expecting them to be in the super bowl because you're expecting to pick up exactly where they left off at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we didn't expect this defense to have as precipitous of a drop as it's had.

[Chad Johnson]

They Did. Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's the part. Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, I was concerned. I mean, Ocho, you remember when I say Ocho, I'm concerned about this defense, man. It's only one game. It's only one game. As a, as a, as a professor, as a former athlete, as a performer, football player, we look at tendencies, we look at things, we see things that you don't see. That's why it's hard for me. It's hard for me to be a fan because I'm more, I'm not just concerned about the score, how you score. Okay, what coverage were you in when you ran this? What formation? I'm looking at that and I'm like, bro, you gave up 250 yards, you gave up 22 points in the fourth quarter and you supposed to be an outstanding defense, right? I don't know about that now, but.

[Chad Johnson]

Also, you got to think about it now. I think people continue to confuse the Ravens identity with being their defense. This is not the Raven defense of the 2000s or even, even that, that, that, that early 2000s, even when I was playing that right. Defense. No more. Their identity now is on the offensive side of the ball. They have great defensive players in specific positions. Kyle Hamilton, one of the best safeties in the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A 20 plus million dollar safety, a 20 plus million dollar corner, a 20 million dollar linebacker, 20 million dollar defensive lineman. Oh, no, bro, I'm not gonna let y' all off the hook like that. Y' all gotta buck up, right?

[Chad Johnson]

I see where you're going with it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got. No, no, no, that's too much Mattabique way. Pro Bowler. Lattimore. Excuse me, not Lattimore, the linebacker. Roquan Smith, Pro Bowler. Marlon Humphrey, Pro Bowler. Kyle Hamilton, Pro Bowler. Man, you got four Pro Bowlers out of 11 starters. No, man, come on. I think Calvin Owen went to the Pro bowl last year.

[Chad Johnson]

You got, you got some, some great key offseason acquisitions. Jai Alexander, if he, if he can get back to his playing form and playing shape and what we're used to seeing him play at when he was in Green Bay during his good days, especially in man to man, he had some great battles that we watched throughout the years with him and Justin Jefferson. So if he can get back to playing what he's used to playing like, you got Nate Wiggins, who's also good, a highly, a highly talked about cornerback who showed flashes of brilliance and why he was drafted where he was. So I think once they get back healthy, they'll be fine. If someone could ride the ship, if Cooper Rush can ride the ship and keep them keep their head above water until Lamar comes back, I think they gonna be all right. And that. That's a head. That's heavy on the think. It's heavy on the think.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I hope anything gonna be all right, Ocho. I'm concerned. I'm concerned.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, I'm not because I'm a Bengals fan, so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First of all, you should be concerned. You should be very concerned because it's not like your situation is. Is much better.

[Chad Johnson]

You right, you right. But the fact that we both in the same boat, it makes me feel better about the situation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you could play it like, oh, man, you got rats. Well, you got roaches, so what's the difference? Can't nobody get a good night's sleep. We all getting crawled on, man. What are you talking about, man? Hey, that's a good one, Ocho. Jerry Jones middle finger gesture would cost him 250,000. The NFL is finding Jerry Jones a quarter of a million dollars for what Jerry claims was an accidental middle finger. Jerry will appeal the fine. This is how you know Jerry. Because here's the thing, Ocho. We watched it at first. If you go back and watch it in its entirety, Jerry does this at first. He gives somebody a thumbs up, Then he turns and gives the other finger and pointed at the guy like it's you. So my thing is, Jerry, you might need to go get checked out, because if you think you putting the thumb up and you putting the other finger, that's what a finger over, up, up. Two fingers over up. That's a problem. Just go ahead and own it, Jerry. You did it. I get it. Because at the end of the day, and, and, and, and, and no matter how much you money you make, you can make ten dollars or you can make ten trillion. At the end of the day, you're still human.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And everybody, Everybody has a. A breaking point. Everybody has something that can get them out of who they. Who they are at most times. Because the way we are, that's not onus to sinners. Because everybody has a mechanism that somebody can push into the spring.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I don't know what that guy said. I don't know if it was a guy, if it was a woman, I don't know what it was. But what Jerry did. If you go back and watch the video in its entirety, Jerry does this. He like. And then he flips somebody off and points down like, no, you. That's for you. The thumbs up was for them. That was for you.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, how you get an accidental middle finger. Yeah. And so that's like, oh, he should have just came out. Say, I was trying to do the peace sign, but the index finger wouldn't come up.

[Chad Johnson]

You know what's funny when I think about it too, as. As Jerry Jones being as wealthy as he is being the owner of a yacht, myself, as wealthy as I am also being the owner of. Of a mega yacht, I think about him being fined 250, 000 up. That's docking. That's docking money. That's gas money. That's fuel. So that's really not really affecting Jerry in any way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but it costs to fill up the yacht, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

That's it. Yeah, that's it. And when players. It finds players to catch your attention, they find us to catch our attention, to say, listen, you don't want to do that anymore because you don't want to have to pay a significant amount of money when you get fined. But you find a Jerry, 20, 50,000. Man, that ain't. Man, come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But if you base it on what happened with Mr. Richardson, Jerry Richardson, the former Carolina Panthers owner, he got fine, rest his soul. He got fined 250,000 for a similar gesture. David Tapper, a couple of years ago, he threw water at a fan. It cost him 300,000. So we know the fine was coming. We knew it was coming. And we knew it was going to be something around those lines. Quarter of a million.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

300,000.

[Chad Johnson]

Huh? You said it was gonna be. You said it was gonna be, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chad Johnson]

I said 500. I only said 500 because it was Jerry Jones.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, he sure enough would appeal then, but I'm trying to figure out who he gonna go appeal to. He appealing to the commissioner? Hey. Nah, Good. Jerry. Get out of here. 250.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Matter of fact, you know, you know, I'm be. I'm gonna be with commission on Saturday and Sunday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

So I'm sitting with him in the box, but then I get to be field side for the Broncos game. So any message you want me to give some your former Bronco players?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't nobody there. They barely was born without when I played.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, how old fans are they at 24?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, they're young. They're young. So how you. How confident are you that the jets aren't going to win their first game over in London? Again, I'm not confident.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The jets go win their first game against the Broncos, I'm not confident it at all.

[Chad Johnson]

Are you sure?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm not sure. I mean, it's not a. I mean, it's. It's sports. It's pro sports. There's not. Although people like to think it's scripted. It's not. So anything can happen in sports, and we've seen it. But I feel. I feel confident. Confident in the. In the. In the Broncos. I do. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. I'm just making sure because, you know, once we go on Nightcap that night, you won't be able to say foot or ball, because the chances of the Ravens winning, whoever they're playing this week, it ain't likely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'll be like, hey, Bronco country, stand up.

[Chad Johnson]

That's what you're gonna say?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson]

They might want to stand down. And I. And I. Let me tell you. Let me tell you something. I. I really feel good. I really feel good about the Bengals playing the Packers. I understand how good they are defensively. But, you know, Joe Flacco with the Cleveland Browns, he did beat the packers early in the season. You know that, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. I'm just throwing it out there. That's just a little tidbit, Chad, I want you all to take with you. So don't be surprised if the Bengals happen to win against the packers, who are probably heavily favored.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Five, six sacks at least. They're gonna be on that joker like. Like lies on a wildebeest.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

All right, all right.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm not telling you to go out there and gamble. I'm just saying, I, I, I, I'm really wrong.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, all right. Oh, we got our newest segment, Player Fade, presented by Prize Picks. This is how it works. The Nightcap staff has made a lineup for the picks, and whether we play their lineup or change or make some changes, choosing more or less. Here it is. Lineup change. Saquan over. 15 and a half receiving yards.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Over. Okay. Over. Over.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, this is a good one, Ocho. A.J. brown, 5.5 receptions, so at least six receptions.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, that's tough, especially with the way they've been playing. The man had a game for two catches for seven yards. Obviously. They also had that team meeting. They haven't been able to run the ball well. Do they come out and show something different than what we're used to seeing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where they playing at? They playing in Philly or they play it in New York? Let me see what that game, man. You know what the game is, Ocho?

[Chad Johnson]

No, I'm not sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, it's in New York.

[Chad Johnson]

What do you think? I don't know why I feel like they're going to make a concerted effort to get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm going. I'm going to go more. I'm going to say more.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jackson dart over 35 rush yards.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely. Have you seen him? Boy? The boy dangerous with his legs. Now, I'm not sure which way you want to go, but I'm going over 35 because anytime he go through that progression and he don't see nothing and he see daylight, he coming out the back door every time. I done seen it too much too early already.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, I'm gonna go more. If you don't have. If it don't pan out, that's all your fault. Download the app today, use code Shannon to get 50 in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup. Remember, download the app today, use Code Shannon to get 50 in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup. But it's good to be right. Oh, show. What many fans thought would be LeBron's long awaited retirement announcement turned out to be just an ad and it left fans furious. According to TMZ, Andy Garcia, who's a 29 year old Laker fan, is suing the King in a small claims court for fraud, deception, misrepresentation and any and all legal recovery. Garcia was apparently one of those people that thought LeBron was hanging up the sneakers and purchased two tickets. March 31, 2026, a game between the Lakers and the Cavs. Due to the significance of LeBron playing against his former team, Garcia tickets fight to $856. But now the value of the tickets had plummeted after the announcement. I know I shouldn't say I know, but y' all thought that man was gonna make that.

[Chad Johnson]

Man. Anybody would. Anybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't know what he was gonna do, O Joe, but I knew he wasn't gonna make no retirement announcement.

[Chad Johnson]

When we talked about it on the show, right. And we said there was a decision coming up, what's the first thing I said? There's something coming out. I just don't know what it is either. With some, With Nike. I didn't even know it was gonna be alcohol. I thought it was gonna be a shoe. I thought it would be something to do with clothing. I thought it was going to be something having to do with the new brand that he's attached to. That's all. I could have told you that. I just didn't know exactly what it was. I knew damn well if it had Been a goddamn retirement. But he's not leaving the NBA until Bryce gets there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think so? Hell, yeah. I don't know, Ocho. I don't think. I don't think he's retiring after this year. I don't. I don't. I mean, it's hard, Hard to walk away when you're playing at such a high level, you know, he strikes me as a guy that's gonna play to. The wheels fall off and the wheels are not fault. Have it? Hasn't fallen off yet.

[Chad Johnson]

Not even close.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Walmart Express Delivery Announcer]

Close.

[Chad Johnson]

Year 21. Year 22, you're averaging 24. What is the 24? 8.

[Shannon Sharpe]

20? Yeah, 24. 7.8, 8.2. So he's almost 25 points a game. Shooting 51 from the floor. Shot 38 from the 3. He ain't going nowhere, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Higher.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For what?

[Chad Johnson]

Still putting up numbers like that. I don't care if you 42, 55, 57, 60. If you still put up numbers like that. And being productive an important part of an offense and still being as efficient as he is this long into his career, who's thinking about retirement? You know when to call it quits. Your body tells you when to stop. Your numbers, the decline, it tells you when to stop. Father Time tells you when to stop. Father Time hasn't caught up to him yet. Can he do some of the things he did in his younger days? No, obviously not. But you evolve. You evolve. Other areas where you don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, he's shooting the three ball. No. Can he, can he. Can he still get to the basket? Yes. Can he still finish with the best of them? Yes. But it's. It's harder for him to do it consistently. So now he's gotten the three ball. He said he worked on catch and shoot because he's going to be playing off the ball even more this year with Luka and Austin Reeves on the court. So he needs to be a catch and shoot. The one thing you can say about him is that when he decides that, you know what, there's a. I want to work on an element of my game. He wanted to get better at posting up. He goes down to Houston, work with Akeem Olajuwon, can play with his back to the basket. He got that fault that fade away. He's always been able to put his head down and get to the basket, finish at the rim. Then, hey, it's like, you know what? I need to get this three ball. Because I, I see where this is headed. This thing is headed that you're Going to need to be able to shoot the three. And you see, now everybody can shoot the three. Yeah, you got to stretch four, you got to stretch five. You got to stretch this. Everybody can shoot the three. And he know, he knew in order for him to have longevity, guess what? I need to be able to shoot the three. Two.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. It's so funny too, when you think about it. You look at players in the NBA, and now that I've, I've become a little bit more knowledgeable of it, you have players like LeBron, and it's a testament to his greatness is as he got older, he's evolved and got embedded other areas of his game.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

So he play as long as he's played. You know, he's one of the few. Now he's made himself into an efficient three level score. Not just at the mid range, not just in the paint, being able to back to the basket or being able to drive at will when he chooses and wants to, but now being able to. To be efficient from three points, shooting 31 from three. Like, come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he. But I'm sorry, bro, that you thought that man was going to make that announcement.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, the judge gonna toss that out, ain't it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what the judge gonna do, but I tell you what, I think the thing is, he's gonna have control over it, and it's going to be a situation where he could control it. It's going to be released on his platform.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what it's going to be. LeBron's going to control. LeBron's going to control it. Yeah. Just like he did with the decision. And I don't have a problem with that. So I want your man up killing you, Neff.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Nope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

LeBron's just going to control what's. When he does it, how he does it, where he does it, and I'm fine with that. I think he's. He's or he's earned the right to like, make the announcement when he wants to, how he wants to, where he wants to, and you know what he wants to say. And everybody, you know, some will be happy and some will be disappointed. I myself personally would be disappointed because I think he's playing at a high, a high level. I like guys, you know, go out when you want to. That's his legacy, man. He destroyed his leg. It's his. He built it.

[Chad Johnson]

And the funny thing about it, not only go out when you want to, but go out the right way. Go out the right way because if you play how many games NBA season, 82. All 82 games need to be every time the same way Kobe went out. Every, every, every game. It need to be a standing ovation at every game, understanding it's his last time being on that court, wherever he plays.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, the difference is with Kobe, Kobe. The injuries had started to rob Kobe. He tore his Achilles late. He tore his labrum late. He started having the injuries that started. That started to mount up. Now LeBron is dealing with a nerve irritation in his glute. And so we don't know. I'm always leery of guys limping into the season because you limp out of the season, but he, he, LeBron did not have the injuries that Kobe had. LeBron is still regarded as a top 10 player. Kobe was not a top 10 player at the tail end of his career. He just wasn't. And that's okay. That doesn't take away from what he was able to accomplish because he was phenomenal, and we know that. But Kobe was not a top 10 player. LeBron was still a top 10 player. He did have a historic game. Even though he had 60. It took him 50 shots, but he had 60 points. And it was a thing of beauty to watch. I watched it from start to finish. And if somebody would have told me that first of all, to shoot 50 times and then have 60 points, because that's a lot of shots. Ain't a whole lot of people that ever shot the ball 50 times. Maybe Colby Wilt is probably the only ones that I can think of off the top of my head that's ever shot that many times.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he was phenomenal. But LeBron is going to be a little bit more buttoned up. You probably just hear something a start it start leaking out. LeBron is. There's. There's rumblings that LeBron. This might be it for LeBron. He'll have, you know, look, you have a. He scheduled a news conference for something. Now he's either gonna retire. News conference or he's gonna go somewhere else. The question is, does he want to go somewhere else and play another year or two or whatever the case may be? Maybe the Lakers want him back because he's gonna. He's still a draw.

[Chad Johnson]

I can tell you where he's gonna go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where.

[Chad Johnson]

How many years does Bryce have before he could leave too? Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he can come after college. You can come out at basketball. You come out at the one.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. It ain't. I'm telling you.

[Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang]

I'm telling.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm telling you what I know. I'm not. I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. I want to be able to play with both of my sons in the NBA, and it's going to happen. Watch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. All right, we're gonna get you guys out of here on this. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn, I gotta take this long ass flight, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Hey, fam. Boy, that was the longest. Well, I don't know what y' all got going on. Night gravity, but anyway. Dr. Frankie L. Bellaby. Hey, fam. Is pride more dangerous when you win or when you're losing? Love y' all lose. It reveals the character because everybody I look, AJ Is a very unique individual. I've never seen anybody complain like this when you're winning. I've never seen it. Normally you lose, and people understand that. It's kind of like with, like I give you private example, like Chio Ocho, you know, you close to Tio. But you saw when Tio T O was fine as long as they win it.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was like when you start to lose and he had Randy on the other side or he had another receiver and they're going off. He like, my man. Give me a chance to do that right.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Normal, Normally, normally, not all. There's no such thing as all of every. Winning will mask. Winning is a great deodorant because there are a lot of issues because people used to be afraid. Don't show the cause to cause commotion when you win it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, absolutely. What, bro?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy, we winning. Go sit down somewhere. AJ Said, well, we winning, but we ain't winning How I think we should win. We should be winning by 15, 20 points. If y' all give me the ball. We could be winning by that.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, listen, it is. It's so funny.

[Jacob Goldstein]

It.

[Chad Johnson]

It reminds me. You know what? I' ma say that. I'm saying that. Go ahead. I'm gonna say that. Say that for a later date.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, vpn. Who's better, Jake Browning or Easton Stick? Which is heavier, a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers?

[Chad Johnson]

That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sheldon Pope Nightcap versus returning the cash money versus no limit. Who you have taken this verses.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, that's gonna be a good versus. Especially if the young folks probably gonna. They ain't gonna understand none of it, but they're gonna bring back some great.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy that fade that boy.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, that's gonna be to bring back some Great memories.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cash Money had. Oh, yeah. Juvie, bg, Turk, Wayne. But Cash Money had them no limit soldiers. Ah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

No limit. Had a nice run too, now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure. With them tanks.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. We have see Murder, Silk, the Shocker, Mia X. I mean, the list goes on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, did. Is. Is. What's this guy named? Ocho. Danger.

[Chad Johnson]

Mystical.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is he out?

[Chad Johnson]

I think. I think mystical still. He's still behind. Still behind that. That wall.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he had got out. He went back.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he. He went back Ojo. So we ain't gonna. We ain't gonna have all. We ain't gonna have all of them.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, listen, they just like the Ravens, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Stop hating.

[Chad Johnson]

They got it full of strength. I'm just. I'm just saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Triple X, copsanity O linen. What he really wants to say. With the number four pick in the 2026 draft, the. The Cincinnati Bengals select Ocho these jokes until he pay. Pay. Ocho talk that ish podcast. Ocho got blank man shirt on.

[Chad Johnson]

They still talk about my shirt?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I mean, go ahead, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm confused. Why everybody making. It's a flannel. I'm in New York. It's like cold. It's like, you know, 56 degrees. I got it from H and M. It wasn't number $20. I mean, come on, y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Chad Johnson]

Somebody look like a youth pastor. I look like an essay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you know, I mean, I can see you in a six. Four. Yeah.

[Degree Cool Rush Advertiser]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey. Hey. Oh, yeah. I feel dead. Homies.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Will say. Is it possible that AJ Brown is trying to seize the moment knowing that other receivers aren't at full strength? I mean, devonte is fine. I mean, who is it? Dotson? I'm trying to figure out who else Johan Dobson is there. Devonte.

[Chad Johnson]

Devonte came out and said the same thing. Huh? Said the same thing. His same frustrations. Yeah, he said the same thing last week. So, I mean, a lot of people were like, oh, look at devonte Smith being a professional. No, he came out and said the same thing. Voicing his frustrates because he's a little irritated, too, about the lack. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I mean, they don't pay. They don't pay soo to have like 600 yards.

[Chad Johnson]

God damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Woo.

[Chad Johnson]

Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

TS car washing detail service. Bingo. Should have got Russia. I think Russ price tag is a little bit much for them.

[Chad Johnson]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Russ, like $14 million. Yep.

[Chad Johnson]

One year 14.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's. And you would have to pick that up. And so that's more than they. The Bengals ain't trying to stomach that. Hey, said Ocho looks like an underpaid ranch hand at the Hidden valley ranch. Hidden Valley Farms, Bradbury said the bungles acting like trader for James would bankrupt their franchise. Now, when grandpa Flacco gets fossilized behind that old line, who will be host? The Wake Browns or Bengals?

[Chad Johnson]

Y' all keep laughing. Keep them jokes flying. We'll see what happens next Sunday when we get on nightcap and we come over that victory.

[Shannon Sharpe]

James Wilson said, hey, unc, I'm from Sparta. You go to Hancock or you went to Green county? Where you go, bro? Much love and respect. I heard you mentioned Hancock on Undisputed one time. Have you ever had family in Sparta? And can you guys wish my wife a happy birthday? 10, nine. Yes, James, we absolutely can wish your wife happy birthday. Happy birthday. Hopefully you guys are going to do something special. You're going to take out for a great dinner. I don't know what's in Sparta. I've never been to Sparta, but I know where Sparta is. Hopefully you go somewhere special, you have a nice candlelit dinner, and you look her in the eyes and you tell her just how proud you are to be her husband. That's what I would do, James. That's what I would do. I'm getting good. Oh, y'. All. Oh, yeah. I think I got a feeling. I think in the next two years, I'm gonna get married. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

There we go. Now we talking. Listen. Now we. Now listen. Now we getting juicy with it. This is the type of stuff I want to hear. This is the fact, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't need no talk from you, Jordan. Huh? Listen, this Jordan over here talking.

[Chad Johnson]

Go ahead. See, I think the fact that I have found a good, solid foundation and I'm building on something good. I think you picking up what I'm putting down and you're willing to follow suit. Yep, I see. I like where you're going. Now, what we can do, unk, is what we can do is I could wait two more years. Cause I was getting ready to do it, you know, in the off season. I can wait two more years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have a double one.

[Chad Johnson]

We have a dual wedding.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause right now, Ocho, you might have to fund the whole thing. I'm just saying I'm gonna keep it thou wild with you now. That's it. That. That. I'm just saying. I'm just saying now, you know, little boy, down to the look. Right now. Down to the look.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, I. I think. Listen in two years and listen to not even two. Probably another One. We gonna be all right. We're gonna be good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're gonna do the right thing, you know?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

We're gonna be right. Because, listen, when the product is too good, it sells itself. Even with the mishaps, even the mistake, it just. It's too good. You have no choice. The cream always rises to the top. But I like that. I like that dude wedding. I like that. Thought.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Playing closed D said Chad dressed like CJ from Grand Theft Auto. Casey Taylor said, ocho, if they made the Longest Yard three with Adam Sandler. If you were asked to join a decent sized role, would you. Are there any specific wwe, NFL stars you would want in the movie as well? I need to play a detective. I can't do nothing physical right now. I could, but I think a detective. I need to. You know what? I want to play a role. I need to be a detective. I need to be a minister or something like that. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, I like that. I like that. I like. I like the minister because they. They can give. They can write you a good script, man. You could.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man. And you know, I could. I could bring that word to him now.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I bring that word now. Oh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You got a handkerchief in your hand. Kill them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Foreign Malachi. Will a man rob God? He answers himself because he already know. Have you robbed me in my tithe and an offering? Bring your tithe and offering to the storehouse.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And let the Lord open up the windows of heaven and plow out. Pour out a blessing that you will not be able to receive fully. Now, what I'm doing, Come see me. Come on now. Come on, now. When I pass the plate around, don't put no change in it. God don't like noise. He acquired God. I'm just saying he a quiet God. You don't like noise, he don't like noise. You say it, you'll see it.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, what kind of God he is or what God?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He a quiet God. He don't like noise. Don't put no change in the pain. Hey, that's a good one, man. They gonna be killing me the chat, man. You playing with God, man. Come on, man. These jokes they write themselves. I told y'.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Working on my stand up. Quake said he gonna let me get two minutes on one of his shows. I'm good. Samuel Legrand said, remember, like it was yesterday. Got him cussing up a storm. I got cussing Ocho fans, New Jersey say El Chapo. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

I like that. I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

El Chapo is shorty yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, I mean, I think he is like 5:4.

[Chad Johnson]

You know. You know, I got a picture with Chapo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? You do?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't get in trouble for showing that, do I?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I mean. I mean, a lot of people got pictures with what you call them, with people that, you know. I mean, people have. People do Al Capone and so forth and so on. So, yeah, Philly, talk with pa. Y' all missing the point. Offensive coordinator Kevin Patulo has been terrible. Eagles have had most success with. Hurts caused his own plays. Also doesn't call his own play.

[Chad Johnson]

Why do people keep saying that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess I. I don't know. Don't start me lying, Ocho. Don't start me to lie. Look, you're right. I mean, and. But we saw this when Gannon and Steichen, when they left, the offense took a dip, the defense took a dip. You saw last year. Fangio is still there, but Kellen Moore got the head job at New Orleans. Kellen Moore, the damn good offensive coordinator. He's a very good offensive coordinator. He's a very good play caller. I mean, I'm sure. You know, I'm surprised he didn't get the job. He didn't. Well, Mike McCarthy undercut him and got him up out of Dallas. Talking about he. He was calling all those pass plays. And then come to find out, he called more pass plays than Kelly Moore did. But that's neither here nor there, fans. New Jersey said Chad. Chad the lumberjack.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, call me Paul Bunyan. All I need now is a big blue ox.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wolf had facts like, Ocho, I tried to fly Spirit. A lady tried to fight me. Her service dog tried to bite me. And there was three screaming babies. I don't know how you do it. I saw the lady today. Did y' all see that video with a lady today was trying to hold up the plane. Cause her daughter was in the back. And she wanted the people to move out the way so her daughter could walk up to the front. Yeah, she in the middle of the plane.

[Chad Johnson]

Ocho, what airline was that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Spirit. Okay, Saucy D. Just want to say shout out to Asia Wilson and my Aces. We one win away from another wnba. Chip, did the Aces win tonight?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, they won. They up three. They up three. Zero.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They came back and won.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, they won. They up 3. 0.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You lying, Ocho. They were down 11.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I promise you they won.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. I ain't gonna lie to you, okay? Lose this next game and Then come back so I can see y' all playing in Las Vegas. Who did it? I know. Well, I know Asia. Asia probably had like 40. But I know my girl, what my girl Chelsea do. What would girl Chelsea Gray do? As came back and won Asia.

[Chad Johnson]

Hit Asia. Hit a buzzer, beat her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they were winning. So 26, 29. Oh, they had a big lead. What you call Asia had 30. Fold. Jackie Young. Okay. Chelsea had had 11. Jewel Lloyd. That's. That's what put it on y'.

[Xavier Hutchinson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, she was. When I was coaching at the. The Ruffles game.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or she had 16. Yeah. Jewel can play. She can ball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We gonna get this one. We gonna get this one. I think this. I know we gonna end. We about to end. But I think if Asia Wilson wins this championship and she's finals mvp, which I believe she will, it's gonna be tough. Cause Jackie Young has been sensational.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause she dropped 21 and a quarter. But with four MVP, three defensive players a year, three championships, two finals MVPs. She's been a blogs leader. She's been a rebound. Look, and look, I, I go back to the women's game. I remember they had the first women's tournament.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When LA Tech won and Kim Mulkin was a starting point guard. Yeah. I remember that. Beat Cheney to be a member. To be Cheney State. Yeah. I'll give my all that. AJ Wilson winning this championship. Leave it alone.

[Chad Johnson]

You think so?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go. Go argue with the wall. You're not arguing with me. She wins this championship. She's the greatest woman. I don't know. I mean, I don't know what else to say. Theoretically, she should have five, because I thought. Look, and Stewie. I love Stewie, too. Story is phenomenal. But Asia, Lord have mercy. She's special. That. I mean, she, she get. But. And she does it on both ends, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, on defense, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She does it on both ends.

[Colin Coward]

She.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like I said, I mean, she's just as good offensively as she is defensively. She can steal the ball. She can block shots. She can rebound. Obviously, she can put the ball in the basket. Led the league in scoring back to back years. Had the highest scoring average in WNBA history. Scored the most points in a single season in NBA history. WNBA history. And I. Look, look, I, I, I get my. But you got to realize. Yeah, my play, I think seven, eight years, you got to realize she ain't done. Y' all do realize this woman could have. She could win another two, three MVPs. She could win another two 3M championships. I'm going to get to it now. I'm going to get to it now. Official church. Ocho look like a substitute gym teacher ever. Greg says. Shay. Ocho. Can y' all shout my daughter out? Lillian. Emmy. She can't sleep and it's a school night, so we both watch it. Yes, we can. Lily. Emmy. How you doing? Emma? My bad. Emma, get out my ear. Thank you for staying up watching. And we're late. I don't know if you're on the west coast or the east coast, but if it's on the east coast, you up really, really late. I guess you ain't going to school tomorrow, huh? Emmy, like, Nah, I'm good. I'mma stay up with dad. Boy, Greg, you gonna get in trouble, man. Mom gonna find out that Emmy was up.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, ain't gonna be hell to get up in the morning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you know what? Ocho and I ain't had nothing to do with that. I said I told her to put that baby to bed. I gotta throw that blame. I gotta get that heat up off me. Thank you guys for watching another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite unc, Shannon Sharp. And there's my partner and co host, Liberty City's own singles ring of fame honoree, the former pro Bowler all pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you, especially on Mondays and Wednesdays and Sundays and Thursdays and Saturday. You show up for us. You show out for us. And we greatly, greatly appreciate that you support us and the way you've supported us from start until the very end, through all the ups and through all the downs. You rolled with Ocho and I, and I cannot thank you enough. So thank you again, Nightcap family, for all your support and your continued support. Make sure you go check out Shave by La Portier. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. It's the best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. And we'll put our cognac up against anybody's. Don't believe it. Try it for yourself. I promise you, you will not be disappointed. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Make sure you check out my media company on all of its platforms. Shay. Shay. Media and my clothing company 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. Nightcap has been nominated for two award two signal awards under the genre best Sports Podcast and on the video Best Video Podcast Co host team. We're only in lead by one point in both categories. Please help us run it up and run away with this so it's not even close. And club Shay Shay has been nominated for two as well under the genre Athlete Shape and culture and under Video Best Video Podcast. So hey go over there and support us. Show love for all. Shay Shay Media Nightcap Club Shay Shay. We greatly, greatly appreciate your support. We'd like to thank world champion help Tathlee, Anna hall and Texans wide receiver Xavier Hutchinson for joining us and giving us a few moments of your time tonight. Continued success, Anna, continued success. Xavier, we appreciate you joining us. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We're back tomorrow night after the Eagles and the Giants game. Make sure you join us for that. I'm sure it's going to be a very entertaining game. I'm unc Heath Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow night. Peace, Jack.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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