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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, so now it's time to welcome Chief Royal Ram Ramsey Chief Roy Ramsey, the co founder and Chief Executive Offer Officer of Forestry and Fire Recruitment Program. Chief Ramsey founded FFRP to help individuals who are formerly incarcerated and work within fire camps overcome barriers that prevent them from entering the professional field of firefighting. The Forestry and Fire Recruitment program maintains a 10% rate of recidivism across the 200 plus placed employment compared to the California state average of 42% and 82% nationally. Chief, thanks for joining us today. Man. How are you doing?
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Chief Roy Ramey
Oh man, I'm doing well. Shannon, how you doing sir?
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm doing great, bro.
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Chad Ochocinco
I'm doing great.
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Shannon Sharpe
Thanks for joining Us.
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Chief Roy Ramey
Nah. Thank you for having me, Chief.
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Shannon Sharpe
What's up, baby?
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Chief Roy Ramey
What's up o show, baby. What's the deal?
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Unknown
Hey, dude. Baby, shoot. And I'm chilling, man. Listen, if I had your hands, I cut mine off, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir, Chief, I want to ask you this. What led you on this journey to. To. To find, to discover, to fund this program in which you're a part of now?
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Chief Roy Ramey
Yeah, so. So when I was 20 years old, I made a. I made a mistake, right? I end up, you know, making a poor choice in life and I end up, you know, committing a crime and got sentenced to six years in prison. I ended up, you know, serving four years, eight months. And in that time, I had the opportunity to, you know, go to fire camp. And I know, like, a lot of folks don't really know about that program and it's pretty much been around since the 1940s.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay?
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Chief Roy Ramey
So, you know, California utilizing incarcerated people to fight wildfires, um, and, you know, giving them an opportunity to, you know, obviously serve the community and going out and doing anything, but they get paid, you know, pretty much a dollar an hour to do this work. So I remember around the time that I actually went to fire camp, it was. I actually got sent, like, sentenced, and then I went to. I was in reception for a while and then they sent me out of state from Arizona to Mississippi, because the time that I got sentenced, it was overcrowded in California. So I had to, you know, I went out and, you know, went to Mississippi and you have a annual review every year. And when I, when I had the ability to go because I had my, my points dropped, and it was like, hey, you want to go to fire camp? And I was like, in my mind, I'm like, what's fire camp?
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Shannon Sharpe
Right?
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Chief Roy Ramey
I heard, I heard about it when I actually got sentenced, but I didn't really know. So from there, you know, just had the opportunity, you know, talk to a couple of folks. I'm like, hey man, you know, what's this fire camp stuff? And I was like, hey, man, this is dope. You know, you food, you know, you have a, you have the ability to go out and, you know, have a part, like I said, with your family. You, you know, you in a community, you're not locked up, you're not in a sale. So I was like, man, this is a, you know, good opportunity and I can go back to California, see my family, haven't seen them in like 20 plus months. So I was like, you know what, Let me just go make it happen. But Shannon, when I tell you I had no idea what I was getting myself into, brother, it was crazy, man, for real. So. And then it led, you know, and, and I grew to love it. I. Passion for it when I got there, and I was like, man, I could really do this. This is something that I, you know, that I could, you know, make happen. I. I had adversely when I was younger, when I was a kid, and I wasn't ever scared of fighting fire. I'm, you know, I had a couple of, you know, l. You know, some, Some. Some experiences in my life where I had some, some challenges. I almost died a couple times. So I was like, you know what? This is something that, you know, I'm not scared of. And. And I just loved it. And, and. And it was dope.
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Shannon Sharpe
So if you don't mind me asking, I'm gonna ask one more question. I'll let you take it. Right, if you don't mind me asking, what is some of the qualifications in which an inmate qualifies for this program?
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Chief Roy Ramey
So the qualifications, you know, you. You can't have arson. You can't have a sex crime. You can't. At the time that, when I was there, you, you know, you couldn't have any murder or something like any violent crime, right? In a sense. And you pretty much go through what is called a pft. You do some physical training. Once you pass that, they give you a basic, like S190 class. And this is all I'm talking about is when I was there, and you pretty much can be able to go out and they'll send you to a fire camp, and you really under the qualifications of the captain. Okay? So it's. It's really quick, you know, it's like a couple weeks, you know, process to get you, you know, going, and then you out there, you fighting fires.
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Unknown
Listen, one of the key words you just said, Chief, is passion. You had a passion for something, and obviously most of the times people have a hard time finding something that they love to do and actually having a passion for it where it doesn't become a job, it becomes something that you actually love. Now, how do you help the participants gain the skills and the confidence needed for such a demanding job in wildland firefighting? Because that's, that's. That's for one, scary. It's life or death, depending on the situation, right? Is how do you do that? You know, helping them gain the skills. And now not only gain the skills, but you need confidence to be able to do something like that.
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Chief Roy Ramey
And that's what the forestry and fire recruitment program is pretty much all about. Like, you know, just like us being from, from the urban community, right, and having adversity growing up, you know, we built for it tough, right? We, we've been, we've been through some things, right? So it's really easy to chop it up with folks and be like, listen, like, you know, you, you already been through that road in your life, right? You already had, you know, you probably the black sheep of your family. You know, you probably disappointed your family in some moment. And like, this is an opportunity for you to be able to utilize the knowledge, skills and abilities that you have, right? In order for you to be able to get a family winning career. And it's really just being real with them. Just like we having a conversation right now, it's just like, you know, hey, do you want the bag? Everybody want the bag. Everybody want the jewels. Everybody want to be able to have something to look forward to, to, to have pride in, have purpose, right? And it's really to really sell it and say, look, this is a real true opportunity. So you know, listen to your captains, listen to or take this time, you know, to yourself and really understand the, the process of like the mental and emotional and the physical attributes of like and locking in. Just like when you was on game day, oo, you know, softing people up just like how you, Shannon was over there, you had me pumped up earlier with some highlights in and it's like that's, that's where you have to understand like the opportunity. Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Chief Roy Ramey
And, and I think by me talking and just telling my story and inspiring folks and loving on folks and showing them like, look, I've been where you at and like we already been through the worst, so why not take this opportunity to get to, to get the opportunity to be able to be a firefighter, make the bag, you know, take care of your family and win.
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Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you this. There's a lot that's been said about the incarcerated firefighters today that's currently fighting the fires in Los Angeles. Can you explain to us fact of fiction that of what's circulating online, how much do. I don't know if you know this off the top of your head, how much are they getting paid and do. If it only forest fires, do you guys, do you guys go fight burning building fires or it's just these large scale massive fires?
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Chief Roy Ramey
Yeah. So when it comes to folks that's in California fire camps, they actually focus on wildland firefighting. That's what you Pretty much trained in also though too. You know, you can, you know, respond to a, a flood or any like, national disaster that needs.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
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Chief Roy Ramey
When it comes to like just having bodies there.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
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Chief Roy Ramey
And yeah, so that's pretty much that, that question for you, Shannon.
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Shannon Sharpe
How much you got? What, what's the pay? Because it's been paid like, okay, you get $10 an hour and then blah, blah, you get another dollar an hour. So it's 11 hours. So if you don't mind me asking, what, what's the pay scale?
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Chief Roy Ramey
Yeah, is, is, is dollars. They're making about 20 some dollars a day. You know, from what I was, you know, all the research that I have done and known, because they've been trying to like compensate folks for being at fire camp. I know one of my CDCR partners, Fred Money, Captain Money here. Yeah, he has scorched me if I didn't say that they wasn't trying to make efforts in trying to, you know, give folks some more money. But it is pretty much a dollar an hour when they out there on the fire. But they're trying to figure it out. But yeah, it's, it's hard work. Is, you know, you making what, you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Know, 30 $12 a day.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Chief Roy Ramey
For, for the day.
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Shannon Sharpe
You know what I'm saying?
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Chief Roy Ramey
Because they do 24 hour shifts and then they 24 hours down and then 24 hours on. So yeah, it's definitely, it's pretty much the same thing as you going to college and you getting pimped. You know what I'm saying? Like, right, like, like, you know, the, the nil, right. Like now it's starting to come about, right, because of like, you know, folks seeing that how much money that, you know, the NCAA is making. Right? Like it's a similar kind of situation. So you can understand what I'm saying. But my biggest thing though is like I wanted to bring you to the NFL, right. I'm trying to give you the opportunity to go out and get this bag and with all the, you know, opportunities you had in college, right, and when you was in, in fire camp. Let's take that to the league, man. We, we need, hey, the league is short right now. We back in, when this league was in 1960s, we try to, we need, we need folks to be able to come out here and make it happen.
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Shannon Sharpe
But you check this out. Go ahead, Ocho. Go ahead, Go ahead.
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Unknown
I was gonna say, listen, early, early, early in life, obviously you've made some mistakes. Listen, we've all made em, you know, you've had obstacles you had to overcome, and you were able to do that. And many of us don't get a second chance. And you were able to get a second chance. And I'm just curious, what's been the biggest hurdle you face in making the forestry and fire recruitment program a success and actually getting people to want to actually do it, despite what the pain might be?
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Chief Roy Ramey
So it's a lot of things. So I think the biggest. One of the biggest hurdles is, like, can you actually do it, right? Because a lot of folks knew, like, it was some rumors around, like, yeah, you can. You can't. But if you really think about it, public service in prison kind of don't mix, right? Like, correct cop, you think about, you know, prisoner, it doesn't mix. You think about a firefighter, you think about a prisoner, it don't mix, right? So I was like, you know, me and my co founder, Brendan Smith, you know, we was, you know, we was laying in the bunk one day or just like, you know, just chopping it up, and it was like, man, like, I really enjoy this, man. I really want to do this. And he was like, man, you know what? We should. We should figure it out. Like. But I'm like, you know what? Once we actually know the process of becoming, coming from fire camp to, you know, being a professional firefighter, you know, I want to be the modern day Harriet Tubman. You feel me? I want to bring our folks, you know what I'm saying, to get their bag, right? So it's like, okay. And then we obviously, you know, it was a lot of. It's a lot of stuff. It's stigma, you know, obviously is, you know, understanding the process of how to get there, right? The application, you know, build a resume. And then. And at the time that I was around, it was like, band a box wasn't there. So, like, you know, you know, you have to explain your crime and what you did. So I was like, you know, my. When I first started, I worked with the U.S. forest Service and, you know, put my. On my application. I'm like, look, this is the crime that I committed, right? But then this is what I'm doing to be able to, you know, try.
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Shannon Sharpe
To atone for my mistake, right?
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Chief Roy Ramey
So, hey, look, I went to this Wildland Academy, got my certifications in college, right? And I'm, you know, trying to be able to, like, really push it to. To the next level and be able to get a position with y'all. Like, I'm. I'm. I'm showing you not only Just the things that have happened in the past, but also the things that I'm working on to be able to be a great citizen and being able to be an asset to the company, you know, to the organization, which is the Forest Service. So from there, you know, I got, you know, then I got an interview and man, it's just like they was asking me like, you know, so what makes you the, you know, the best person for this job? And I was like, look, I got experience right when I was in fire camp and you know, I did 20 months, you know, fighting fires, doing fire prevention work. I was the first saw, I was out there, you know, doing my thing. And then not only that, when I came home, I got my credentials as far as getting my certifications I need. And then now I'm actually in college pursuing my AS degree in fire technology. So I'm like. And experience you can't beat, right? So I am the best, you know, I have the, the good position to be able to be the best person for the job.
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Peter Schrager
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Shannon Sharpe
Chief I want to ask you this because there is a stigmatism that comes along with someone that's been incarcerated and they gets out a lot of time employment do not want to offer them that because of their prior history. What are you doing and how can we as a society realize that some of these men women have something to offer to society in a positive, because there is that stigma that they don't want to give you a job. And so that's why I believe the recidivism rate is so high. Well, if I can't get a job, you're not going to give me gainful employment. I got to go touch somebody to get it, because I got to survive. I'm just going to be honest with you. I got to survive.
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Chief Roy Ramey
Chief. That's my guy, man. Hey, and that's. And that's the real thing, man. And that's where I, like, wanna want to tell y'all today is like, you know, I can. I can speak from experience. I was, you know, I was a little firecracker when I was younger. So I think even the respect that I gained from these men and women that's out there battling these fires and stuff, and that's in these fire camps, I can really attest to what they going through. And. And it's really an important factor of me being able to, like, talk to, like. So, for example, I'm gonna tell you some. Some real stuff. So Cal Fire, right? That's like the state's fire department, okay? They actually one of our biggest funders, and they actually support what we're doing, and they put their money where their mouth is, right? Governor Gavin Newsom, he passed a bill that was effective January 1, 2021. It's called AB 2147, which allows folks that's been incarcerated in fire camps get their record expunged once they come home. So big shout out to the governor, right? Big shout out to Cal Fire. And. But one thing that we do need to, like, I really want to talk to y'all about, too, is like, cdcr. You know, I've been wanting to chop it up with them for a while. And these are folks that, you know, how's these. How's the folks that's being incarcerated, right? And I'm really looking for a partnership for us to really, you know, help out those thousand, you know, folks that's out there battling these fires right now and. And should be able to, you know, put their money where their mouth is.
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Shannon Sharpe
Let's.
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Chief Roy Ramey
Let's, like, we. We really need people like this is. This has been going on for a long time. We started our organization in 2018. It's really been a struggle. I was actually just talking to my wife, man, and, like, it's been a journey for me, Ocho and Shannon, and in my team, too. And like, to be honest with you, my co founder, Brandon Smith, his, his grandparents house burned down just in Albina.
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Shannon Sharpe
Sorry to hear that.
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Chief Roy Ramey
My, my director of finance, her house burned down in the Palisades. Right. It's been an effective like not only just what we've been doing and been trying to like we've been, you know, we've been struggling. We're a non profit organization, you know, we trying to do something that's right. But like it's been a lot of like, you know, it's been a lot of stigmas, a lot of like, you know, pressure with this and now that this hadn't happened, like you know, we've been around, we, we want, we want to be able to provide folks opportunity and stuff. So yeah, let me, let me stop there, Let me stop there because I go into town.
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Shannon Sharpe
What's the best way people can support your organization, your efforts to do what you can, take what you, to help you continue to do what you're doing.
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Chief Roy Ramey
Honestly, if they can donate, I don't care if it's 5, 10, $50 right to, to the forestryfightrp.org or even just awareness, like I'm a TED fellow, 2024 TED fellow. Shout out to all the TED folks, I have a TED Talk and just spur an awareness of the organization, what we're doing and I think that's really what needs to happen. Like folks need to know what we actually do and I think you know, to all the, you know, athletes, to all the folks that been in, that lived in the urban community, I feel like we would definitely would love your support. And knowing that we actually, you know, getting folks that say that there are you know, zeros when they go to prison and the homies, right, like all the folks that we know that grew up, right. I'm actually providing them an opportunity to get you know, a six figure job, right. And if you think about that in la, that's huge. That's life changing money for folks, right? And, and even being able to get their record exposed, like have a whole zero to hero kind of like mentality and, and shout out to, I'm gonna be honest with you, shout out to like arc. Shout out to J Cod. Shout out to like all these folks that's really trying to, to make things happen on, on a higher level. Even Kim Kardashian, she's been saying some things about us and trying to uplift that voice, right? But we, I need support from you know, folks that's in the LA community, that been in urban community that understand what we're going through and think about Uncle Jojo, you know, Uncle Nook. Nook and all those folks that they. The one. They're the ones who be going to fire camp, right? They can be able to get that. And when they see that, you know, all it takes is a little bit of effort. It takes a mindset. And that's another thing, too. Shannon and Ocho, I want to say, like, it's, you know, it's mind control over Debo, right? When you can be able to inspire and show, like, look, you already been doing it, bro. Like, you might as well just go ahead and, you know, dive all the way.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's an honest hustle.
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Chief Roy Ramey
It's an honest hustle, right? Exactly. And you think about it, it ain't too many opportunities that you can come home from prison and make six figures. Think about it, and what we're doing, we're like, think of we only training 100 people for, you know, year round, like, right? And then one thing that I wanted to tell y'all, talk to y'all about, too, is that I've been trying to, like, uplift the bu. The Buffalo Hand Crew. So I don't know if you educated on this, like, about the Buffalo Soldiers. And. Okay, so, so they, you know, obviously the African American men, you know, wanted to serve in the. In the armed forces, and they actually went out to. It was a fire in 1910, and they. They saved a town in Avery, Idaho, and they did a back burn. And that's something that we kind of like, do, like, you know, even today. And that kind of has been kind of like a little tradition, right? And being able to do prescribed kind of burns and, like, trying to save and stuff. And I actually launched a crew in 2022. It's called the Buffalo. Buffalo Hand Crew. And what I want to do is, you know, build a crew where I can be able to do fire prevention and fire suppression work throughout the. Throughout the state. Because that's one of the things, too. You got those. Those. Those houses that burn in Palisades. And I. And I know, like, it is like a wind event that, like, is just, you know, a natural disaster, and you can't really, like, stop that. But it is some things that we can do as far as going out here doing some fire prevention work. Cutting brush, right? Because the more brush that's cut, the less embers and all that stuff is out there.
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Shannon Sharpe
So if a fire is a burn is the same thing as a break. Because I remember when I was growing up, they would used to take the break. They would burn certain areas so that if there was a fire it could only go to the. So once it's burned, there is nothing it could jump over and keep going on. So I'm very familiar. I just wanted to know if a burn the same thing as a break.
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Chief Roy Ramey
Yeah, pretty much. And that's where I think if we do a lot of more fire prevention work, it's been efforts, right? It is a process, it's complicated situation, I'm going to be honest. But I want as an organization, a nonprofit organization to be able to do this work year round and do it more frequently. And I can hire folks internally, like they can go through my program and. Oo I gotta ask, I gotta ask you a question. Oo because I, I did, I did, I did tell you how we do it, right? So we recruit, we train and then we help them get a job with the, you know, give them a resume, go through the application process because we know. And then that's when we mentor them throughout their, their career and since. And you know, we help them with the social services, we help them with the expungement. And I gotta give it a lot of shout out man, to a lot of my people that you know, been. Been with me since the beginning that believed in me and you know, we, we have a location in San Bernardino, Louisiana county, we have a location in Oakland and we trying to just continue to do our work and I think what we're doing is transcending and it's really transformed folks lives and I just, I appreciate the platform and the opportunity for you to have, have me on here. And you know, I just wanted to.
- [29:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Do the good work.
- [29:30]
Chief Roy Ramey
I didn't do this for, for the riches and fame and the glory. I did it because I feel like I knew that this was something that I needed to do and is going to be able to help people's kids. Kids, right? Like it's a generational thing. Think about it. When you have a person that can make that amount of money to be able to put their kids in private school or put them in a better school system and then they become something, right? And then like generational or just to.
- [29:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Be able to provide right that part.
- [30:01]
Chief Roy Ramey
And it's in the money. Look, it's, it's. Hey Ocho. Hey, I, I hear you about saving that bread, baby. Like, hey, if you don't got no bread, you can't save nothing, right? We, we got to it. Hey, I, I need, I might need to like. You need to start like a little financial class or something, man. Like I Might need to. You might have to give me a little sidebar, like how to do it, man.
- [30:21]
Unknown
So I got you. I got you. I got you.
- [30:25]
Shannon Sharpe
You know what? What we did tonight, Chief Roy Ramey, all the money that we're going to collect from the Super Chat, we're going to donate that to the organization. But I believe so positive and so strong in what you're doing, I'm going to personally donate $25,000 out of my own pocket because I really appreciate what you're doing. I love the fact that you're trying to help the community, try to give back and try to keep guys from going back into the system and to have gainful employment so they can provide not only for themselves, but for their families. So I really appreciate it. I appreciate you taking time out of your schedule and on here and sharing a little insight of what this program is all about, because we see, we've heard so much about these young men that are out here fighting these forest fires for really risking their lives for pennies on the dollar. And so I appreciate that, and I'm sure everybody here that's watching this appreciate your service and what you're doing. I know Ocho and I, we greatly appreciate it. So all the money that we gather from the Super Chat tonight, we're going to donate that to your fund, but you're going to get a personal donation from Shannon Sharpe in the $225,000. Because I believe in you. I believe in what you're doing, and I want to say thank you for what you're doing. Yes, sir.
- [31:35]
Unknown
Thank you, man. Salute. For real? Salute. Not very many times, you know, do we get a second chance at anything. Not very many times. And what you're doing, man, is commendable. And, you know, from the bottom of my heart, man, I really do salute you.
- [31:49]
Chief Roy Ramey
Yeah, I appreciate you, Shannon, man, for that. The first thing that came to my mind, it was like that. That Jerry Maguire, man. Oh, don't make me cry, baby.
- [32:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Just keep. Just keep. Just keep doing what you're doing. Keep God first. Keep doing what you're doing, bro. And I'm proud of you. I'm happy for you. And this is a great program. And hopefully there are a lot of young men that want to take advantage of this situation to do something positive. Yes, they're made mistake, but that. Let's not make that be the end. Let that be the start of a new beginning. So congratulations on your program. Like I said, thank you for joining us tonight. And we'll check back in with you down the road.
- [32:28]
Chief Roy Ramey
All right, thank you. I appreciate both of y'all. Shannon and Ocho, have a good one.
- [32:32]
Shannon Sharpe
You too, bro. Yep. Oh, man. That's Chief Roy Ramsey. I call him Raimi. No, Is it Ramsey or Raimi? Raimi. Okay. Ramey. He's the co founder and chief executive officer of the Forestry and fire recruitment program. And it's doing a lot of good things because what it does is give inmates an opportunity to learn a craft. Because it's hard. I mean, it's hard for them to get a job because somebody they put on that thing and you have been convicted of a crime, you say, yeah. Then, blah, blah, blah, they're like, oh, no, we can't hire you. So now I ain't got no game for employment. I'm out. But what can I do to survive? How do I get a place to stay? And so a lot of. And sometimes family don't want you around because you've done something, and it's always hard. And so, you know, like I said, I mean, when you don't have employment and you need to survive, a dog won't starve himself. Humans are no different. They're not going to starve themselves. So if they can. If they can't get gainful employment, they're going to find a way to survive. And so what Roy Ramey. Chief Roy Ramey is doing is giving guys an opportunity. I greatly appreciate that. And I don't mind. Like I said, I've been very fortunate. I've been blessed. God has blessed me beyond blessed. And so someone's doing something positive. Ocho, I always want to be able to lend a hand.
- [33:47]
Unknown
Yes, sir.
- [33:50]
Shannon Sharpe
So thank you, Chief, for coming on and joining us. Ocho. An accounting error didn't get Jimmy Butler paid report. Miami had an accounting error that left Jimmy Butler without pay for 10 days. Jimmy Lee reportedly took private flights separate from the team in order to visit his sick father. So in other words, he wasn't just taking it because he didn't want to file on the plane. In consequence, Pat Riley might have been on the plane. He might have had beef. He was like, look, I'm gonna meet you where you're going, but I really need to see my dad. My dad is not gonna be here much longer, and I wanna spend as much time as I possibly can to be with him. I'm gonna join you wherever we're going.
- [34:27]
Chief Roy Ramey
Right?
- [34:28]
Shannon Sharpe
But just give me that opportunity to be with my father.
- [34:31]
Unknown
So, I mean, that should have been addressed, and that should have been told to them ahead of time, huh? Or the reports wouldn't come out that he was flying the plan, you know, flying solo. They think he flying because he don't want to be with the team, but obviously he had a reason why he wasn't with the team. And now that it comes out, he lets it be known that should have been already talked about internally, so there was no issue. But because there was some strife and, you know, there was some separation between Pat Riley and the powers that be that he can pass that message on, you know, I guess I'm assuming just Jimmy did it his way. And now once the, once the issues came out about him flying solo, now he lets people know that, you know, Pops is sick. And that might have been something that he didn't want to, you know, he didn't even want to get out.
- [35:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Correct. I think the thing is, I mean, I don't know how you. Like I said, I'm figured if you're taking private flights and something like that, his dad is probably really, really ill. And you try to spend as much time as with your father or the loved one as you possibly can. And you know, I don't really care as long as he, as long as he's going to be there for the game and even if he doesn't, because there's some things that are more important than basketball. I know, I know people don't. Sports, Let me take that back. Not just basketball. There are certain things that are more important. Tending to a loved one. I would rank that first. I'm always going to make sure family is okay. Now once they're okay, I can tend. I can, my mind can be free and I can go get done what I need to get done. Right? But I don't really have a problem with Jimmy did taking a private flight because he could have just like, hey, the hell with it. I'm gonna be here with my dad as long as my dad need me. The f. The f them sports. Cause, oh yeah, games y'all gonna play. 50, 60 more of these. I ain't gonna get another dad. Once he gone, he gone. And so I, I, I totally get what Jimmy did. Taking a private jet. And this is why he took the private jet, because they said the private jet because he wanted to stay back with his father and spend as much time as he could. But he always ended up making kudos to you, Jimmy.
- [36:32]
Unknown
Yeah. Hold on.
- [36:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Joe Neymar. Go ahead. What you gonna say? Hold on.
- [36:38]
Unknown
Let me, let me use the bathroom real quick. Hey, Neymar, that's my dog now.
- [36:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [36:41]
Unknown
Hey. I said hey. Listen, make sure. Hey, Unc, whatever you get ready to say, I said it first. So when it actually happens, just know. I tweeted it two weeks ago because a little birdie told me.
- [36:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on, hold on. Neymar is in talks with three MLS teams over a possible move. He's with one of those teams in Saudi Arabia. Anyone on one of those teams like Cristiano Ronaldo, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He making big money over there. But Nate Mars and talks with three MLS teams over a possible move. O tell the people at home what the move would mean for professional soccer in the U.S. now, we know Messi is already the league. I think Suarez joined him also. Right?
- [37:51]
Unknown
Yep. Suarez is there. Jordy Alba is there as well. And I think, obviously, listen, there was a time where. There was a time. I mean, phenomenal trio at Barcelona. When it was. It was obviously Jordi Alba was there, but the. The trio, Messi, Suarez and Neymar, it was a beautiful thing. It was a beautiful thing. Now, in comparison to something you would understand is when Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade, and LeBron were playing together. Now, I'm not saying they're the same thing. I'm just giving you better context on how that trio was when they played together. We talk about art. There's a reason they call soccer the beautiful game, and that's exactly what they just played when they played together. So them reuniting, even though they're past their primes, it still would be a joy. It would be a joy to watch them. If Neymar is to come to the States, if it was to happen, it would be Miami. Even if he's in talks to other teams, you know, in mls, if it's not la, if it's not the Galaxy, or it's not lafc, I don't see him going anywhere else. Yeah, I don't see him going anywhere else. It's either lafc, the Galaxy, or down here in Miami. He not playing for any other team. That's no disrespect to them. They just wouldn't have the type of money he's looking for. Even though they paying him. I don't even. I don't know what Ash could tell you. Well, you know what Neymar made to go.
- [39:15]
Shannon Sharpe
To go to Saudi Arabia to play him a lot. They ain't getting what I think Ronaldo got like, five. Not. Yeah, Ronaldo got like 500 million for three years, man.
- [39:24]
Unknown
No, two.
- [39:25]
Shannon Sharpe
We got two years. Okay.
- [39:27]
Unknown
Yeah. Crazy.
- [39:32]
Shannon Sharpe
He got. He makes 107 million a year. How much Ronaldo make, Neymar makes? Ronaldo makes 180 a year.
- [39:45]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [39:48]
Shannon Sharpe
And because they offered. They offered Messi, something like that. But Messi took the MLS deal because he gets a share of Apple, he gets a share of the Jersey sales. Yeah.
- [39:58]
Unknown
And the funny thing about it. Now, I don't know if the reports are true. It might not be. If they say they offered Messi a billion. They offered Messi a billion dollars to come. But Messi don't need no money. He need no money. I don't know if it was true or not. You know, a billionaire in Saudi Arabia for two years knowing. Knowing them, they got it.
- [40:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I know they got the money.
- [40:20]
Unknown
And they would have paid it. But I'm sure at this point, at this point in his career, I don't want to end it out there in Saudi Arabia. I'm ending it out here in Miami.
- [40:30]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm going to end it in Saudi Arabia. I ended it. Wherever they, wherever they got a billionaire, that's where I'm ended.
- [40:34]
Unknown
You go and you know, that's, that's a conversation you have.
- [40:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Look at all the perks, though, Ocho. I mean, they got like private jazz and they got. They got like a 50 million dollar penthouse and they got all armed security, all the. Man, please.
- [40:45]
Unknown
Neymar got it made. But again, you got to think where you're going now. You got kids, you got a family, you have a wife. And his wife is like, listen, I didn't like it when I was in Paris. And you definitely not going to drag me from Paris and take me to Saudi Arabia. That ain't happening. Take me to.
- [40:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, so where you want to stay? Because I'm gonna be over here in Saudi Arabia while you, where you are. I will get this beat I would get. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get this money. Cause Ronaldo took the money. Ronaldo took the money and ran, which I don't blame him. That's a lot of money. $180 million a year, Ocho.
- [41:17]
Unknown
Yeah, man.
- [41:18]
Shannon Sharpe
And you got a lot of bread, man.
- [41:19]
Unknown
You know what's funny? You got to think about how much he's already made before he even got to Saudi Arabia.
- [41:24]
Chief Roy Ramey
Yes.
- [41:24]
Shannon Sharpe
I think he's like $1.6 billion. I think that's what he's made. That's what he's made in. Yeah. With revenue, with soccer and endorsements and things like that. Yeah.
- [41:36]
Unknown
Crazy.
- [41:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Ocho, a mother went viral for saying her sons will lose inheritance if they have a child out of wedlock.
- [41:46]
Unknown
I like that. Listen, that's a good way to force marriage. That's a good way to force marriage on your kids. You know, using money as an incentive, saying if you do anything out of wedlock, okay, you ain't getting the money. You know? Now, if they're driven. If they're driven by that, you know, if money is the motive, then you already know what you're gonna get if they don't care about that, you know, and sometimes due to unfortunate circumstances. Happens.
- [42:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [42:18]
Unknown
Happens, huh?
- [42:18]
Shannon Sharpe
The only way to prevent that, they can't put raw meat on somebody.
- [42:21]
Unknown
Now, it is. There it is.
- [42:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Man.
- [42:27]
Unknown
It is.
- [42:28]
Shannon Sharpe
How much money? Hey. Oh, Joe, what is it? This is what I'm gonna ask. Mama. Mama, how much? My inheritance.
- [42:36]
Unknown
Right? And you know what?
- [42:37]
Chief Roy Ramey
It was better.
- [42:38]
Unknown
It was better if you. If we got a report, right? It would have been better if they told us what the number was.
- [42:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Hey, mom, how many? My inheritance? 50,000. Mama ain't gonna be able to. Ain't gonna be able to hold off on that. I think the biggest thing in a situation like that, I. I think. I don't think they want to disappoint their mom because they know how important that is for her. Right? You know, she was probably. When she gave birth to them, they were probably. The dad was probably in there. And so she wants to continue that. She wants to continue that succession of, hey, we do things the right way, we're married, you know, blah, blah, blah. We don't have baby over here, baby over there, baby out there. And so I don't have a problem with that. Hey, look, I don't tell anybody how to really govern their families. Ocho.
- [43:23]
Unknown
Yes, sir.
- [43:24]
Shannon Sharpe
How they had to divvy up their money, if that's what she wants. The stipulation. Because a lot of people have stipulations, and not only inheritance, but they have stipulations in prenups. Yes, sir. You gotta have sex. X amount of time. You can't gain a certain amount of weight. You have to look a certain light. You have to look a certain way. So it is what it is.
- [43:41]
Unknown
They put that in prenups?
- [43:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Hell, yeah. Absolutely.
- [43:46]
Unknown
That's a little. That's a little extensive. Because when you get.
- [43:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Until one of us get fat.
- [43:53]
Unknown
I mean, listen. I mean, when you Listen, once you cross that. Once you cross. Once you jump that broom, you're supposed to accept your partner forever. They are sometimes no Sometimes I accepted.
- [44:03]
Shannon Sharpe
You how I met you are you when you look like they're here, you ain't going to be no. You ain't fit to be no 155 and then. And two must be 275. Oh, no, that ain't gonna happen.
- [44:12]
Unknown
I thought you supposed to love your person, love your partner.
- [44:16]
Shannon Sharpe
I love the person that I married. I don't know who this is. Somebody, somebody kidnapped my wife, right?
- [44:26]
Unknown
Oh, that's funny.
- [44:28]
Shannon Sharpe
No, I mean, but no, I mean, people do put that. Actually, people do put things like that in the prenup or, you know, who gets the dog or who gets what and all kind of things don't. Joe, you know, obviously pets are, you know, a lot of people have pets. You know, hey, I get the dog or I get visitation or I get the dog, you get the cat or whatever the case may be. But the mom says, look, I want my boys to have be married when they have, when they father kids, right? Her money, she gets to decide how it's divvied up and where it goes.
- [45:00]
Unknown
And that's, that's crazy.
- [45:01]
Shannon Sharpe
No problem. No problem for the nightcap crew on that one.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho yeah French woman was swindled out of $800,000 by scammers posing as Brad Pitt, who made her believe she was dating him and that they needed help paying for medical care. After reportedly telling the scammer that she had recently divorced her husband and said almost all of her divorce settlement about 800,000. It was 798,000American dollars after a fake Brad Pitt had he had developed kidney cancer and needed a loan because his bank accounts were locked out because of ongoing divorce proceedings with Angelina Jolie, the woman sent an AI generated image of Brad Pitt's face over a man in a hospital in hospital bed.
- [49:02]
Unknown
I mean, is she that dumb or is that stupid? August 2025 Brad Pitt would have FaceTimed you. It's 2025.
- [49:14]
Shannon Sharpe
He was too sick. He was too sick.
- [49:16]
Unknown
If you getting scammed in 2025 out of 800,000, you deserve to be scammed. It's 2025. And how the hell you truly believe Brad Pitt Need 800,000?
- [49:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Because all the reports said that they had actually frozen some of his bank accounts because of the ongoing pending divorce. Because when you in a pending divorce, sometimes they will freeze your assets if they think you're trying to hide or you're trying to move the money. They'll absolutely freeze them.
- [49:45]
Unknown
Even if they froze some of his assets, Brad Pitt has access to 800,000. Yeah, even if. So we talk about one great. We talk about one of the greatest actors of all time. It's ain't no just no, it's ain't no Joe Blow. Come on now. I mean, you can't be that goddamn. Come on, man.
- [50:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. When you look at Ocho, you look at Ocho, she had just gotten divorced. She thought Brad Pitt was interested in her. Hey, you know, love is blinding, Ocho. It's like a cataract.
- [50:14]
Unknown
That ain't love. That definitely.
- [50:16]
Shannon Sharpe
It was on her part.
- [50:18]
Unknown
How's she loving somebody if she just left somebody? You just got divorced.
- [50:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Exactly. She lonely.
- [50:24]
Unknown
And you think Brad Pitt was next in line?
- [50:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, you know how. That's how you. That's how you play on someone's emotion. Someone that just lost a loved one. What do you do? You play on that. That's how you get close to somebody. Oh, you grieving. I want to be there for you. I'm gonna cry on your shoulder, and next thing you know, you don't slip meat in them. You see how that work on Joe? You see how that work?
- [50:48]
Unknown
Hey, it happens every time.
- [50:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. And I don't think you're gonna get this money back.
- [51:01]
Unknown
Definitely not. Definitely not. Because there's probably no way to track that.
- [51:06]
Shannon Sharpe
No, probably not.
- [51:07]
Unknown
Listen, if you have a scammer that can get $800,000 out of you.
- [51:14]
Shannon Sharpe
That.
- [51:14]
Unknown
Ain'T just no ordinary scammer.
- [51:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they good.
- [51:18]
Unknown
That's a professional. The fact that you look at Bernie.
- [51:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Madoff, Bernie Madoff got 3 billion.
- [51:25]
Unknown
Listen. And you know how to do that Ponzi scheme.
- [51:28]
Shannon Sharpe
No, I don't want to know either.
- [51:30]
Unknown
I mean, we can have 3 billion, though.
- [51:33]
Shannon Sharpe
No, you can have time. He in jail.
- [51:36]
Unknown
He not out yet.
- [51:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Give me that look. He ain't never getting. As long as they. Hey, as long as they make. Make tea, he gonna be in jail. And Chinese been making tea for 5,000 years, so he ain't going anywhere anytime soon. Yeah, hell, he got 150 years. So they got 150 years.
- [51:52]
Unknown
They gave him 150. Yeah, well, that privilege ain't work on his end, huh?
- [51:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Man, you steal that kind of money and the people that he stole it from, see, that's what they need to start having our sentences when you hand out. Since they get somebody 100 years, we'll stop this from doing all the crime because we're gonna make. If you don't serve all that time, we're gonna have to get some family members to help support the rest of that. So you got 100 year sentence and you only do 50. All right, who want who? How y'all gonna break this up? Hey, I got you. And that's. But it's. It's bad. But that's ojo. It's always. Think about it. O. They look at the scam. I mean, the ups tomorrow you got a package, but you just need to send $4 so we can get.
- [52:44]
Unknown
They got links. They got links. They sent to you.
- [52:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. I ain't got nothing. I just. I just hit delete.
- [52:49]
Unknown
I ain't click on. I don't. I don't click on nothing.
- [52:51]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't. I only know my. I only know about what you. I only know my credit card information, so I can't give it to you. And so I just hit this swipe and it's gone.
- [53:00]
Unknown
Yeah, Crazy. All right. Well, I think about them days when I. I mean, you probably don't know about it, but you know, I'm. I'm of. I'm 10% of Nigerian descent. So, like, I used to be a Yahoo. Boy, I don't know if you know anything about us, but, but, but, oh, man, I just.
- [53:21]
Chad Ochocinco
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- [53:22]
Unknown
That's another story for another day, man.
- [53:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Walgreens CEO says anti shoplifting strategy backfired. The top executive at Walgreens lamented the loss of sales from putting items at like toothpaste behind lock and key. Crackdown on rampant shoplifting has plagued the pharmacy chains around the country. When you lock things up, you don't sell as many of them. You don't. But. But a lot. Some of these are like in college areas. Cause the target over there by UCLA campus, I mean, used to be able to go in there and get toothpaste and deodorant and shower gel and just grab it. Right now you got like, ah, dang, bro. And they stand right there, bro, can you just leave it open? I'm sorry, we can't. Okay, well, just while you hear this, let me get that, that, that and that. But I get what he's saying because people are stealing it. Yeah. So I, I mean he, I mean they got to take precautions as far as, as far as like trying to, trying to keep you from stealing it.
- [54:24]
Chief Roy Ramey
Right.
- [54:24]
Unknown
But then, but then it's, it's messing up, it's messing up sales because.
- [54:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, guess what? But guess what? We're not selling as many of it, but they were stealing more of it. So I'm losing, I'm a lose lose.
- [54:38]
Unknown
Either way you look at it.
- [54:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown
How do you counter that? As a CEO, what do you do at that point?
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Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. I just have to leave it locked up because I guarantee you they're stealing. Leaving a guy like that. They're probably. And that's why. And people talking about, man, the prices, the price keep going up. Cause they keep stealing.
- [54:55]
Chief Roy Ramey
Right?
- [54:56]
Shannon Sharpe
They keep stealing it. It's driving the prices up. Something has to offset that.
- [55:03]
Unknown
That messing up everything.
- [55:05]
Shannon Sharpe
It messes up for everybody. Yeah, I just, I just, I. People don't seem to understand how, how, how the economy works. Somebody gotta pay for that.
- [55:17]
Unknown
Oh yeah.
- [55:18]
Shannon Sharpe
For lost. I got. Somebody has to pay for that. Ocho, every time.
- [55:21]
Unknown
I don't think people understand. Guess who gonna have to pay for it?
- [55:24]
Shannon Sharpe
The consumer that actually buys it all us. The thief. The thief ain't paying for it. We have to pay for it. And then, you know, they've gotten really lagged to mess this up. What is it, like 850 or a thousand dollars? And it's not a credit. They just write you a little citation or something like that. Like $900. And so yeah, it's bad. I mean at Target it's the same. It's Target is the same thing. A lot of these, like it used to be like, where did I go? Hell, I went to Sally's I think the other day and they got stuff degrease and stuff.
- [55:57]
Chief Roy Ramey
Like, well, damn, Sally Beauty supply.
- [56:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I'm like, man, I'm trying to give you. Somebody trying to give some of that 57, 10 Beijing. You know what I'm saying? That's why you. It was locked up.
- [56:08]
Unknown
Okay, so my hair is still great.
- [56:15]
Shannon Sharpe
But see, that's why I like to go get stuff in bulk. So I'll buy.
- [56:21]
Unknown
Keep going back.
- [56:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I'll buy 20 Listerines. I buy 40 tubes of toothpaste, 15 deodorants. Yeah. Cause I don't like going back Because I know y'all gonna have it locked up, so. And then now, Shelly just order it. So I only really have to go, right? Yeah, but I, I walk. CEO of Walgreens. I totally understand. It is, it is a hassle to go in there when you used to go and you're in a hurry, Ocho. And there's never anybody. They're normally, you know, cashiers or something. They're, you know, pharmacists or whatever the case may be. You got to go ask them, excuse me, can you go open such and such. And, you know, they got a thousand keys on there.
- [57:00]
Unknown
Hey, see, I, I, I kind of. I agree with you in a little bit, but I don't think you really understand the joy and in, in, in the pleasure and the excitement it gives me. Now, to give you better context, remember you was a little kid and you was born in the store.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [57:17]
Unknown
Remember theirs? Did you, you remember. You heard of Zayers?
- [57:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. The jewelry store?
- [57:21]
Unknown
Yeah. No, no, no, no. That's. No, Zares was like, like back in the day, like in the early 80s. In the early 80s, late 90s. Theirs was like a JCPenney, almost like a little bit. Or Publix or something like that.
- [57:34]
Shannon Sharpe
A Ralph.
- [57:35]
Unknown
I think, if I, if I'm not mistaken, like, like a Target. That feeling you had when you know you're going, you're going and going into Target. Let's say you're a little kid and your mama say, before we get in here, I'm telling you right now, don't you ask me for nothing but that and excitement of knowing you was going in there. And there's a possibility you might be able to get some.
- [57:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Z Y, Z Y, R, E. Yeah. Discount chain.
- [58:01]
Unknown
Z A, Z A Y, R E, S. Yeah.
- [58:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [58:04]
Unknown
Even as, even as a grown adult at my age, there's a certain level of excitement. I swear, I swear for God.
- [58:11]
Shannon Sharpe
And I'll be able to go in the store and grab. Yeah. Get stuff.
- [58:13]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [58:14]
Unknown
Like, to go to Target. Just. I don't think you don't understand what that Target run does.
- [58:19]
Shannon Sharpe
I didn't know if Target existed until I got to Colorado.
- [58:22]
Unknown
For real?
- [58:23]
Shannon Sharpe
No. But we had belks, we had JCPenney. We had stuff like that. We have no Target in no Glenville. There was no Target in Savannah.
- [58:31]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [58:31]
Shannon Sharpe
See, not when I went to school.
- [58:33]
Unknown
So you don't understand the joy of actually take. Going on a Target run and walking up and down the aisles, going for one item and coming out with 10. Like, it's just oh, yeah.
- [58:41]
Shannon Sharpe
That's why I don't like to go shopping now. Cause I ain't never going to buy one thing, right? I go get orange juice. I'm coming out with muffins. I'm coming out with pretzels.
- [58:48]
Unknown
Yes.
- [58:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Popcorn. I'm coming out with a whole bunch of.
- [58:53]
Unknown
Listen, I'm going.
- [58:55]
Shannon Sharpe
I know what it's like to go. Even when you go into like these little convenience stores, Ocho, where stuff was all out there and you had all those cookies on the thing and there was penny cookies and penny candy and all that stuff. You missed that, right? Ain't no more, I don't think. Is there anything that's in the store that you can buy for a penny? I can't remember last time I've been inside a convenience store.
- [59:16]
Unknown
No, nothing at all.
- [59:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Because then after a certain hour, Ocho, they lock it and then you like, you want to sold them. They say, can I get a Sprite? The guy go get the Sprite and put it in the thing. You just can't walk in the store after a certain time, right? Things have changed and they've had to change. I mean, you know, it's gotten dangerous out of here. You know, people, a lot of people don't care. Don't care anything about their life and they damn sure don't care anything about yours. So they'll take whatever they can. And it's not good enough to just take it and just move on. They end up harming somebody. But yeah, I, I definitely understand what the. The CEO is talking about. But we all get impacted by that, Ocho, because it drives the prices up for everybody.
- [59:58]
Unknown
Oh, yeah. They gonna get that money back some way.
- [60:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Q and A. Ocho, nightcap is. You donated $550 to a board. Oh, okay. I was gonna say that first, but go ahead. We got animation. Come on, Ocho. We got nightcap. I mean, Q and A nightcappers. You donated $550 for a very worthy cause. Thank you so much. Also, I'm dead. A personal domination because I think this is a very, very worthy call. And I really appreciate the young brother trying to get out there and try to help people and give back because I hate to see people not get an opportunity to be successful because nobody will hire them because of a past mistake. So hopefully this will help. And I really appreciate what this young man is doing. But thank you guys, Black Capital for donating to a very worthy cause. Shout out to Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, Olivia Hawkins and Taylor Bell. Big dope, big dope. Big, big donators. Doc, you've always been great. You've been here for the doc. I'll be getting one dog. You got a job. Babadon Don04 Salute 44kg to the guys coming home trying to make it make it in as a hard ass profession. What is salute 44G to the guys coming home trying to make it in a hard ass profession. Oh yeah, but look, I get it, you know, look, anytime that their your life is at risk, obviously that's very, very, very, very tough. But it gives you an opportunity to get do an honest profession. And you know, a lot of times there are some, there are some programs that they out there that they hire guys that's previously been incarcerated as long as the crime isn't, you know, the one of the most heinous natures. And he's explaining to us there are certain crimes in order to get into the program you can't be convicted of. But I just like the fact that he's trying to help because it's tough when somebody won't give you a job and you need to eat, you need a place over your head. Maybe you have kids or things of that nature. Ocho. It's really hard. And so I just appreciate what the brother's doing.
- [62:12]
Unknown
Yes, sir.
- [62:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Kenny Fresh, your story was inspiring. Keep doing what you're doing, what you're doing. Wish I had more to help help your cause any little bit help kid. But we appreciate that man. SLS says shout out to all the firefighters for the hard work you do they're doing. Sending love from Canada. Yep, we greatly, greatly appreciate it. So much damage has been done to the men and women that's out there fighting, putting their lives on the line to try to get these fires under control here at everybody at nightcap and all our listeners, we're sending our thoughts and prayers with you. Hopefully everybody makes it home safely. Anise Farm D Much love to all the first responders and all behind the scene people. I see you. Yes, we do. And we respect you. The inquiries Heel said. My brother's in West Hill grad and I want to show his appreciation for everything that community did for my bro, his time there. But nightcap fam, stand up. Yes, we support. All good here. Laney Ray just wanted to donate to a worthy cause. Cheers to the chief and firefighters and all my fellow nonprofit workers out there as well for the fighting a good fight. Fighting the good fight. Yes. Lany, thank you. Appreciate that. Bradenson. My dad was a correctional officer at the fire camp in California. He loved those inmates and working alongside them. Some of the most hard working and kind people. Thank you. Appreciate your dad. Yeah. Kevin Norwood Jr. Who's the worst quarterback in NFL history or wide receiver in NFL history?
- [63:42]
Unknown
The worst quarterback, yes. Nathan Peterman.
- [63:51]
Shannon Sharpe
He got a strong case. Jamarcus Ryan Leaf. I think the thing is Ocho, is because those guys were such high draft picks. I mean, you know, a guy that's a fourth round pick or something like that, but you're the first pick in the draft. You're the number two pick in the draft.
- [64:07]
Unknown
It's a lot of pressure to live up to those expectations, huh?
- [64:10]
Shannon Sharpe
It really is. Wide receiver Woo Blackman, Jacksonville.
- [64:24]
Unknown
But I mean he got in trouble though, huh?
- [64:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, he didn't feel expectation. Charles Rogers got in, got had some injuries, broke his collarbone like the second held out, broke his collarbone, end up broken it again. I mean you probably have to go back. I mean considering the NFL is over 100 years old. I'm sure there were some, but they didn't get the coverage like we have now. Keem Abdul Juwan. What's good? Nightcap. I'm a big Atlanta Falcons fan and I'm liking the connection between Michael Pennix Jr. And Drake London. Uncan Ocho, do you think they can be a top tier quarterback, wide receiver combo next season? Yes.
- [65:00]
Chief Roy Ramey
Yeah.
- [65:00]
Unknown
I mean the, the sample size, the sample size that we got from, from Pinnocks in, in London is so small, but it only, it only has room to grow, you know, obviously, right? Getting, getting the off season together, getting the minicamp together, getting the training camp together, you know, and in a full season it has some potential to be very, very, very good.
- [65:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Because when you think about it, Ocho, Kirk Cousins took the majority of the reps with Drake London. So they're only going to get better once they get to many camps and they get the OTAs, they get the training camps and he's getting the majority of reps with London. But if there was any indication of the last couple of games that seems to be back. A budding combo. Big rue your uncanocho from Cleveland. A sad Browns fan. What do y'all think the Browns should do to get back to continuing starting with the draft? Would you ever coach in the NFL, Ocho? Wide receiver coach? No, I ain't coaching. NFL, afl, college, high school, junior league, midget. Excuse me. Huh?
- [66:03]
Unknown
What about flag?
- [66:05]
Shannon Sharpe
No, I don't want to be no coaching. Nah, it was all like, it was, it was all I could take to coach the celebrities and they had the Basketball. Everybody, everybody, everybody want, everybody won't play a time. Everybody. Coach, I'm just getting hot, bro. You just got three turnovers. How you getting hot? I don't know. But what you guys need to do is you got to get a quarterback. You're not winning. No team is winning in the NFL without a quarterback, without consistent quarterback play. It is very, very difficult for you to win in today's time. Look at the team that's currently in the playoffs. What do they all have? Quarterbacks. Quarterbacks. And if I'm not mistaken, Lamar might be the lowest drafted quarterback at 32. Jerry Golf was number one overall. Jaden Daniels was number two overall. Josh Allen was number seven. Patrick Mahomes was, I think 10. Who else we leave out? Jalen Hurst was second round pick and then Matthew Stafford was number one overall. But you got to have a quarterback, you got to get consistent quarterback, consistent quarterback play in order to have a chance to win currently in the NFL. Without it, you don't have a chance.
- [67:21]
Chief Roy Ramey
All right.
- [67:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Isaiah Lancaster. Uncan Ocho. Who wins? Buffalo. Ravens. And how do the Ravens slow down? Josh Allen. Also, what are your thoughts on Brandon Jennings? Calling Tatum the softest Celtics superstar? I disagree with him. Who you got?
- [67:37]
Unknown
Yes. Who he talk about who gonna, how they gonna stop Derrick Henry? Did you see the first time the Ravens played the Bills? For one, Bill's front line is undersized. Undersized tremendously. If the Steelers, whose identity is defense and I, I was, I would think better suited to stop Derrick Henry couldn't do nothing with him. The Bills definitely ain't gonna be, be able to do nothing with it. He gonna run crazy, he gonna run wild. Now you go out there and you stack nine in the box. You stay, you stack eight in the box. You know, whatever we do then, now that's a different story.
- [68:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, here's the thing though, Ocho. But the best way to stop Josh Allen is to keep his ass on the bench, off the field. And the Ravens have the type of offense that can do that. When you got a Derrick Henry and you got a Lamar Jackson, you gotta be able to stop both of those guys. Now look, I understand James Cook had a phenomenal year. I think he had 16, 17 rushing touchdowns. He was phenomenal. So was Josh Allen. But the best running back quarterback duo in the NFL, it's them two. And it's not close. That's Lamar and Derrick Henry and it's not close. Ojo, let me go back. I made a reference. I was talking about little league football. When I said midgets. I was not talking about little people. I was talking about. That's what we used to call Pop Warner. We used to call it midget football.
- [68:53]
Unknown
Midget football.
- [68:54]
Chief Roy Ramey
That's what we.
- [68:54]
Shannon Sharpe
That's a music. But, you know, but, you know, but you know, you and I talk. People parse words and say, he was being just. He was being disrespectful to little people. Yeah, I just like to clear things up because, you know, people are always looking to try to cancel somebody. So I was making a reference. I wasn't talking about the actual individuals, and I understand they want to be called little people, but I've spoken to little people that they like the term, the M term. And it's like, it's not disrespectful, but I was talking about the group, the age when we had, like. I think. I think I started playing. I was nine. That's what they call the league we played in, so. And just like race cars, they call it midgets. But, you know, some people. Some people want to take everything and blow it out of proportion.
- [69:37]
Unknown
Ocho, it's so funny. Long time ago, Unc. I had a year where I was able to stay with my mama in. In la, right?
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Chief Roy Ramey
Yeah.
- [69:45]
Unknown
I tried it with her one time when I was younger and my grandma brought me on back. I played for Wilshire Yellowjackets. I played the midgets. That was the. There was no weight class. It was. It was the midgets.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [69:59]
Unknown
That's funny.
- [70:00]
Shannon Sharpe
I just.
- [70:00]
Unknown
Just thought about that.
- [70:01]
Shannon Sharpe
But that's what, you know. But you know how it is on the show. You know, people are always looking for something to try to. Oh, he being disrespectful to little people. That's a derogatory term. He knows better. He shouldn't have said this. And then all the groups come out and they try to boycott and do all this stuff. So I just want to clarify. I was not talking about individuals. I was talk. The group. That's what they call the league that we played in. Even the little race cars. That's what they call the race cards. It's still called that on the circuit. So I just wanted to make sure we clear that up. Okay. His second part. What are your thoughts on Brandon Jennings calling Jason Tatum the softest Celtics superstar? I disagree with it. That's Brandon Jennings opinion. I don't. You know, it's. It's just hard to. To get upset with somebody where they have an opinion or, you know, Brandon Jennings played in the league and that's his opinion of Jason Tatum. I think the thing is now you don't have. They're not required to be what the guys were in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Right. And it's okay. There's a different way. Everybody doesn't have to be and everybody don't have to be scowling and everybody don't have to try to run people over to be successful. All I know is he put the ball out, put the ball in at a very high clip.
- [71:10]
Unknown
I have a question. So yes, he said he's soft. Is he, he, is he basing that based off his mannerisms or is this or his style of play?
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Shannon Sharpe
Probably his mannerism. The style of play. Okay, baby. You know, Ocho, you know we grew up, we always thought light skinned guys were soft. Hey, we going at him, right? You could not be light skinned and had good hair.
- [71:31]
Unknown
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see what you're.
- [71:32]
Shannon Sharpe
We punishing you, bro. We already know you soft. You had to prove to us that you weren't. But in today's time, obviously Ocho, you, your kid, you think that. Cause you know our coaches instill that, you know, he's soft. Okay, I believe it too. But I don't think Jayson Tatum is soft. I just think he has a different way of doing things right.
- [71:51]
Unknown
And he gets it done during it. Doing it his way.
- [71:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. The man is a three time first team all NBA player. He's on a championship team. I guess because he didn't win the finals MVP or he didn't win the Eastern Conference mvp, that makes him soft. So what, so what is Nikola Jokic? He's all finesse. All I know is he's a three time league MVP and a finals mvp. That's all I know. Is he Shaq? No. Everybody can't gotta be. Everybody can't do what Shaq did. Everybody don't gotta be cutthroat and trying to cut people's head off like Jordan. At the end of the day, do you get the job done right? I mean look, there are many different deaths. DHL, there's UPS, there's FedEx, there's Amazon. All of them will deliver your package. Jason Tatum put the ball in at an elite level. But hey, that's J, that's Brandon Jennings opinion.
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Shannon Sharpe
Valley said if Josh Allen had Lamar Jackson stat this year, do you think he would have been a unanimous MVP on that team? He got absolutely. What's. What's higher than unanimous? Consider oh oo considering that he. His Lamar. He got Lamar stats. So he got 41, 42 touchdowns, four interceptions, 900 yards rushing. And he lost Gabe Davis and he lost Stefan Diggs and he lost White and he lost Michael Hyde and he lost Poirier and he lost Matt Milano for a large part of the season. Absolutely.
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Unknown
Yeah. Damn sure.
- [76:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [76:52]
Unknown
So. And listen.
- [76:53]
Shannon Sharpe
But he don't. Lamar got those stats. So Lamar's gonna win the mvp. Sir K says. What's up guys? In Yalls opinion, is Justin Herbert afraid of the playoff lights because regular season game is amazing, but in the playoffs, not so much. Why is that? I don't think so. Guys. Y'all see Patrick Mahomes and Brady got y'all spoiled.
- [77:16]
Unknown
Yo.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because y'all think that it's easy. How soon did Peyton how soon did Peyton Manning win a playoff game? His first day they went 13 and three. His second year they went 13 and three. Baylor had the number one. They lost at home. They lost at home. You know who they lost to? The Tennessee Titans. And then they were getting beat 41 to nothing by the jets and Chad Pennington.
- [77:45]
Unknown
Yeah. Oh, that defense was crazy back then. Boy.
- [77:47]
Shannon Sharpe
That just d. No, that was before they had Rebus.
- [77:51]
Unknown
No, I know. The defense was. It was good though.
- [77:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. Yeah, bro. Everybody's not going to have the success that Brady and that's the thing. Brady and Patrick Mahomes is ruined it for a lot of people. Look at Elway. Look how long it took John to win, to win Super Bowls. I mean, yeah, it took the drive for him to make a name for himself. He goes 98 yards, he ties the game, they end up winning in overtime. But guys, it's not easy at all. I mean, Lamar, Lamar. First couple of times he didn't win in the playoffs.
- [78:25]
Chad Ochocinco
It takes time.
- [78:26]
Shannon Sharpe
And we think Lamar. We don't think Lamar is a fraud, do we? But Patrick Mahomes, you know, his first year, he takes starting. He goes to the AFC Championship game, he loses to Brady, he comes back and he wins it. He goes back. The next year, he loses in the Super Bowl. He goes back, he misses it. Cincinnati goes. And then he wins the next two years. And y'all think that's common? Y'all think that's normal? Brady wins three championships in his first five years, and y'all think that's normal?
- [78:54]
Unknown
It's not difficult.
- [78:55]
Shannon Sharpe
It's hard to win in this league. It's hard to win games. It's doubly hard to win playoff games. Then it's triple, quadruple hard to win Super Bowls.
- [79:04]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [79:04]
Shannon Sharpe
And y'all better stop. It's just like, you know, some people have success, Ocho. It's just like now people, like, people think making money is easy. Making money ain't easy.
- [79:16]
Unknown
Right?
- [79:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Making money is easy. I mean, you get a job and make money, but the type of money that they're talking about, oh, I want private jet money. I want Rolls Royce and G wagon money. It ain't easy making that kind of money, Ocho.
- [79:30]
Unknown
At all. At all. Hold on. The right. The right way. The right way.
- [79:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you, man.
- [79:37]
Unknown
Man, please.
- [79:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Brandon hall dated a hundred dollars. New subscribers wanted to let y'all know I love the show and what you guys are doing, but also wanted to make a donation to the chief's cause. Yes. Thank you, Brandon. We really appreciate that. Yes. Because I think it's a very worthy cause. I really do. I love what he's doing. I love to see organization helping in the community. And a lot of times I donate anonymously because I like doing that. But I just wanted the Chief to know that I really believe in him and I really appreciate what he's doing. Cal Simpson said. Sup, Uncle Ocho. Been a fan since Ocho's hall of Fame induction on the sidelines. Sorry I'm late. Wanted to donate, but had to pull over my semi first. Wrecking 80,000 gallons of gas. To donate to the firefighters would be counterproductive. You're absolutely right, Cal. You should have came by here. Let me drive that thing. I back that thing up and let me back. Back that rig up by 2 miles. I'll back 18 wheel up 2 miles and won't even have to pull up once.
- [80:44]
Unknown
No, you won't.
- [80:45]
Shannon Sharpe
You bad. Hey, you mad? I want you to look at him. Look at him. I ain't never seen. Damn. Well, what am I bad, Ocho. My bad. Hold on.
- [80:53]
Unknown
I had. Oh, remember? Don't forget I had a rig now.
- [80:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. I ain't saying anything.
- [81:01]
Unknown
I got. I got my cdl. You. You can't drive no truck, man. Especially not with no cab on the back.
- [81:07]
Shannon Sharpe
I hear I brought it up. I don't even know why I mentioned it. Yeah, if I know it's going to be feeling. No, it's going to cause that kind of. That kind of problem. Damn.
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Chief Roy Ramey
Just saying.
- [81:15]
Unknown
I'm just saying, you. You talk about driving. Driving a rig like it's easy. It's not easy.
- [81:22]
Shannon Sharpe
You play the NFL easy.
- [81:24]
Unknown
Oh, no, that's very difficult.
- [81:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, then I did that. Give me two. Give me. I'll tell you what you do. Give me two weeks, I'll fly the space shuttle. Give me two weeks and I'll take the place. Hey, don't make me do it. I jump the fence at Cape Canaveral and take off on you. You.
- [81:41]
Unknown
I'mma come bail you out, too. That's what they going.
- [81:43]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm be up and I ain't coming down. All you hear is T minus four and counting. Three, two, one. We have ignition. We have liftoff. Man o did it. Man o Said he was going to steal the spaceship. Said he goes to your space shuttle. Oh, Joe. I have a. All y'all see in the window.
- [82:12]
Unknown
Hey, well, you get. You get up there and get stuck, boy.
- [82:15]
Shannon Sharpe
They.
- [82:15]
Unknown
You know you ain't coming down.
- [82:18]
Shannon Sharpe
They will come get me. All right, I'mma take it. I'mma go to Mars.
- [82:26]
Unknown
Nah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Jersey Girl, 1973. Say uncle. No. Joe loved the show. Happy belated birthday. Can I wish my husband a happy birthday? And he's a cigar guy. Do you have any recommendations, Ocho? Well, Jersey girl, happy belated birthday to your husband. Hopefully you guys did something great. You guys got an opportunity to celebrate. You took him out to a nice dinner, you know, rubbed his feet, and then, you know, all the other stuff that married couples do.
- [82:54]
Unknown
Oh, yeah.
- [82:55]
Shannon Sharpe
She says her husband is a cigar guy. Is there any recommendation?
- [82:59]
Unknown
I mean, if he's a cigar guy, I don't know what his palate like. I don't know what he. You know what he likes, you know, like spicy, mild. But for me, for what I like, I like. I like dark. I like something a little heavy. I like the lunatic 70 gauge. I love big ring gauges. Let me see. What else. What else could he try? Obviously you can try one of my cigars, 85 cigars is. Is more of a. More of a rookie experience at the smoker, so everyone can enjoy it. But if he's a little bit more experienced, being that he is a cigar smoker, that. That lunatic 70 gauge is one that I love. One. One that I love. And I continue to go to the Andalusian Bull, obviously, with cigar of the Year, I think it may be 2015. That's a good smoke. Madrone 1926 series is another good one. And that, that's just three off the back that I smoke outside of my own.
- [83:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I don't know anything about no cigars, so I ain't been to hold you.
- [83:57]
Unknown
We gonna get you a cigar in New Orleans, man.
- [84:01]
Shannon Sharpe
What I'm gonna do with it?
- [84:03]
Unknown
Smoke it.
- [84:10]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know about that, Ocho. I don't know about that, Ocho. Cause you, you. I mean, you. My brother's a big cigar guy.
- [84:22]
Unknown
It is.
- [84:24]
Shannon Sharpe
You know what I did? I've been on some cigars. I would. I went to Danny Dan Marino. You know, he has a celebrity. He used to have a celebrity golf tournament. I don't know if he has it anymore. Right? And I've been. I bet on these. They were like 10 of them. And I won the bid for a thousand dollars. Oh, they dried out, though.
- [84:43]
Unknown
Damn, you let the cigar dry out, man.
- [84:46]
Shannon Sharpe
I didn't know. I didn't know I needed a humidor. Hell, I thought I just keep. It was all in a nice box. I said, baby, I told my brother, bro, you can have these, right?
- [84:59]
Chief Roy Ramey
Oh, you tripping.
- [85:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Fell apart in his hand, bro. Why are you not in the bed? Damn, it's past your bedtime.
- [85:11]
Unknown
Wait, you got him on the bedtime, too?
- [85:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Oh, yeah. He normally goes to bed. He normally goes to bed about 8:00.
- [85:19]
Unknown
Okay.
- [85:19]
Shannon Sharpe
But I started a little early tonight. And so we started seven. So he was up. Come on, get up, get up. Come on.
- [85:34]
Chief Roy Ramey
Okay, okay.
- [85:34]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna try to pitch it. You kind of like tv, huh? Yes, I see you. I love you too, buddy. You're a big old boy. You want a treat? You want a treat? All right, we're about done. I think this was the last one. We got two more questions. Oh, we got two. We got two more questions and I'll get you a treat. Okay? Okay. Nemo Bragg said, what's up, Uncle Nocho? Love y'all podcast and look up to you guys. Can I get a birthday shout out? I'll be turning 21 on Saturday. What advice Would you give on becoming a great man? Nemo? Thank you, bro, for watching. Hopefully you're a subscriber. Happy 21st birthday. You'll never be 21 again. That's supposed to be the entry now you're supposed to be a man. You can drink. You could do a lot of different things. What are some great advice? Becoming a great man.
- [86:36]
Unknown
Oh, that's a good one.
- [86:39]
Shannon Sharpe
It is. Be respectful. Be kind. Be receptive to courtesy. Be considerate. Take care of your responsibilities. I take that very serious. I think all men should take care of their responsibility, whatever the case may be. My responsibility is my family. And I take that very, very serious. But there's a lot of different things that you can do. Be a great partner. I don't think it's like any singular thing, Ocho. I think it's a combination of things, of becoming a man. There are a lot of things that make you a man, not necessarily your age and not necessarily just one thing. Like, okay, I take care of my kids. Okay. You're supposed to.
- [87:32]
Unknown
You.
- [87:32]
Shannon Sharpe
You help creative.
- [87:33]
Unknown
Oh, do that.
- [87:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. Reynolds, Uncle Nocho, long time subscriber. I have a question for y'all. I want to hang out with my. I want. I want to hang out with my friend, but she always has an excuse. Should I give up? Yeah, yeah.
- [87:51]
Unknown
After the. After the first excuse. That's a wrap. That's a rap.
- [87:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [87:57]
Unknown
Don't play that game.
- [87:58]
Chief Roy Ramey
Don't let.
- [87:59]
Unknown
Listen. Don't let her play that game. How you like a puppet playing with you.
- [88:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I don't know if you've ever spent any time with it. It's a little bit more difficult, Ocho. Once you are like, you spend time with someone and then all of a sudden they start playing these games because they kind of got your emotions. You kind of invested a little bit. But if you never, like, really hung out with her and you're hoping to hang out with her and she always comes up with an excuse, bro, Let that slide, bro.
- [88:26]
Unknown
Well, you know what the play is. You know what it is.
- [88:36]
Shannon Sharpe
But at the end of the day, bro, you got to. You got to be with who? Like you. I mean, sometimes the. The best one, the best looking ones, the finest ones, they don't find you nearly as attractive as someone lit. So be with that person. I ain't begging nobody to be with me.
- [88:54]
Unknown
Okay.
- [88:55]
Shannon Sharpe
I might beg a little bit.
- [88:56]
Unknown
Choose who choose you.
- [88:58]
Shannon Sharpe
I might beg a little bit, Ocho.
- [89:00]
Unknown
You beg a little bit.
- [89:02]
Shannon Sharpe
A little bit.
- [89:03]
Unknown
Yeah. Sometimes. Sometimes. You know, you do. You do the Begging early. And sometimes you sit back and reflect and you gotta. Sometimes, uncle, you gotta remember who you are now.
- [89:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah.
- [89:13]
Unknown
Sometimes you gotta remember who you are. They drag you. They drag you too long and you start to remember, man, what the hell am I doing? You snap out of. You snap out of that real quick now.
- [89:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right. You right, Ojo. You're right. Yeah. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. Liberty City legend. Bingo. Ring of fame. Monore. The pro bowler. The all pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that, like, button. And guys, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Thank you for your support. 23, 24, and 25 and beyond. Without you, there can be no us. Make sure you check out Shave by La Portier. We have it in stock. What better way to celebrate the 2025 New Year than with a bottle of Shea by La Portier? If you cannot find it in a city or state near you, order it and we will ship it directly to your door. And please, please drink responsibly. Guys, got a new addition to the Shay Shay Media family, the Humble Baddies podcast. Please go subscribe to the Humble Baddie podcast on YouTube. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. Go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. That's Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out. We did this cool T shirt right here. We've got a new shirt. We got shirts, sweats, beanies, koozies, and mugs from our last drop that just released last month. Quantities are limited, so please make sure you grab yours while supplies last tickets for the New Orleans super bowl show. It's our first spring tour stop. They're on sale now. The link is also pinned at the top of the chat. Meet and greet. And the VIP meet and greet and ticket sales are officially sold out. There will. There are still many tickets left to attend The Big Show February 6th in New Orleans at the Mahalia Jackson Theater. Be there. I promise you. You don't want to miss this one. Both Nightcap and Club Shay Shake have been nominated for NAACP Image Awards. Nightcap was nominated for outstanding podcast. Arts, sports and science. No, science. Entertainment. Trust me, not science. Absolutely not. Science. Club. Shay Shay was nominated for outstanding podcast, Society and culture. I don't know if you caught this episode. Ocho with Danielle Rollins, y'all. Had me.
- [91:34]
Unknown
He had me dying. Hey, when you was on hey when you was on him by that goddamn Diddy picture, man, that was funny boy man.
- [91:42]
Shannon Sharpe
But he told me, he said man look here man, I come here, I want hey, don't be coming here asking me all the cause you know I was trying to be said nah, I don't want that. I want you to be you. But he went to school with Burns sister so Keith know Burns knows him very well. So we got to talking like oh, I said oh, so you really like say no more fam. So we hey man, we had a great time. One of my favorite interviews Club Shay Shit was nominated for outstanding podcast society and culture. Please go vote for you guys. The link is pinned in our social bios. We want to thank our very special guest chief Roy Ramey for joining us. Jim Harbaugh is having a hip replacement surgery and he has a condition with his heart that he's going to get rectified this offseason. So Jim is going to be like a great guy on the sideline next year, jumping up and down. I can just imagine how he's going to be on the sideline with an improved heart and a new gate after having that hip replaced. Thank you guys for joining us. We will see you tomorrow night for another episode of Nightcap. I'm unk.
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Chad Ochocinco
He's ocho.
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Shannon Sharpe
See you tomorrow. The Volume.
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