Nightcap Hour 2: Chiefs EXPLORING Russel Wilson to HOLD DOWN Fort + Troy Aikman WEIGHS in on INJURY PROBLEMS + Eagles PAUSING TRADE for AJ Brown

Summary

Club Shay Shay — Nightcap Hour 2: Chiefs Exploring Russell Wilson to Hold Down Fort + Troy Aikman Weighs In on Injury Problems + Eagles Pausing Trade for AJ Brown

Date: March 16, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (“Uncle”)
Guests/Contributors: Ocho, Joe

---

Overview

This episode is a lively football roundtable, focusing on NFL hot topics ahead of the new season and March Madness NCAA basketball brackets. The main themes include the Kansas City Chiefs' interest in veteran QB Russell Wilson, Troy Aikman's take on player injuries, analysis of NFL roster moves (notably the Eagles' ongoing A.J. Brown trade rumors), and a spirited walkthrough of March Madness men's and women's bracket predictions. It's a fast-moving, freewheeling conversation full of expertise, banter, and memorable moments.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. March Madness Bracket Breakdown: Strategy, Picks & Banter

Timestamps: [03:33] – [23:30]

Men’s NCAA Brackets

• Joe, Ocho, and Uncle compare and debate their men’s March Madness brackets.
• Ocho jokes about “cheating” using his bracket:

  “This is exactly how March Madness is going to go and I could win us a whole lot of money.” (Ocho, [04:00])

• Each reads their Final Four and championship picks, with teasing and skepticism about strategy (logic, mascots, gut feeling).
• Uncle reminisces about his connection to Arkansas Razorbacks, their dominance in the 1990s, and how entire schools in Arkansas would “shut down” to watch NCAA games ([14:16]).

Women’s NCAA Brackets

• After the men’s segment, they analyze their women’s bracket picks.
• Ocho draws fire for picking TCU to upset South Carolina and unconventional upsets:

  “Hey Chad. This man got Texas losing, South Carolina losing and Duke. And he got Duke losing.” (Joe, [17:27])

• Joe predicts UConn Huskies to go back-to-back as national champions.
• Uncle highlights the dominance of UConn’s women’s program, recalling legendary players and culture of excellence ([22:23]).

2. Kansas City Chiefs & Russell Wilson: A Potential Fit?

Timestamps: [29:05] – [33:08]

• With Patrick Mahomes rehabbing a major knee injury, panelists discuss KC’s exploration of Russell Wilson as veteran insurance:

  “The onus of winning those games aren’t going to be burdened with [Wilson]… I think they have enough offensively where he can come in, ride that ship and keep that team afloat...” (Ocho, [29:28])

• Joe reminds listeners Mahomes’ injury is more than an ACL—multiple ligaments were involved, making his return timetable uncertain ([30:49]).
• Uncle supports Wilson’s veteran presence as an ideal stopgap, especially given KC’s offensive weapons and Andy Reid’s system ([30:10]).
• Joe warns not all athletes heal like Adrian Peterson, referencing his freakish comeback:

  “He healed differently. Boy, he was a different animal.” (Ocho, [31:47])

3. Free Agency, Defensive Schemes, & Roster Moves

Timestamps: [33:08] – [39:03]

• Discussion on why KC defenders “fall off” after leaving Spagnuolo’s scheme; comparison to Patriot system:

  “The Patriots do a great job…of never put[ting] you in a situation where you get to expose [your weaknesses].” (Joe, [34:26])

• Defensive scheme fit: why free agent signings can flop if coaches don’t play to a player’s strengths:

  “A lot of coordinators, they never go away from their scheme. They get a player and want that player to fit what they do— not understanding you got him for a reason.” (Ocho, [37:52])

• Notable mentions of players who succeeded in one scheme but struggled elsewhere.

4. Troy Aikman: Injury Trends and NFL Practice Culture

Timestamps: [42:37] – [61:20]

• Troy Aikman’s theory: Modern NFL players suffer more injuries due to softer practice rules and a lack of “callousing” the body:

  “Players aren’t physically prepared to start the season. A lot of soft tissue injuries… is that the players are just not able to train the way they once did.” (Troy Aikman, recounted by Joe, [42:37])

• Joe and Ocho strongly agree, arguing players today don’t practice hard enough to condition their bodies for full-speed play ([43:32]).
• Uncle and Joe swap stories of brutal old-school practices, two-a-days, “bull in the ring” drills, and how heat, repetition, and toughness forged elite athletes ([46:10] – [56:04]).
• The group draws parallels to similar problems in NBA and college basketball—less demanding off-seasons leading to more injuries.

5. Eagles Pausing the AJ Brown Trade & NFL Trade Market

Timestamps: [62:39] – [67:37]

• Analysis of the news that the Eagles have paused trading WR AJ Brown, after talks with the Rams and Patriots:

  “Where they getting all this damn money from?” (Uncle, [63:06])

• Speculation about trade logistics, the value of the Falcons’ 13th pick, and interconnected moves involving Devante Adams, Puka Nacua, and more ([63:08] – [65:40]).
• Consensus that the trade could heat up closer to June 1, but the panel doubts any parties would be disappointed if it doesn’t happen as long as Brown gets moved to an offense-first team.
• Sharp breakdown of leverage, motivations, and NFL trade dynamics.

---

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “It’s nothing like March Madness… that's more like our NBA team… the whole school shut down.”
  — Uncle, on Arkansas Razorbacks’ cultural impact ([14:16])

• “You better get somebody—look, why’d you fall in love with him? He didn’t play your scheme while you fell in love with him?”
  — Joe, on NFL roster building mistakes ([37:27])

• “Players aren’t physically prepared… a lot of soft tissue injuries, a lotta muscle pulls and things [because] the players just not able to train the way they once did.”
  — Troy Aikman, via Joe ([42:37])

• “We hit during the week. 907 was real. We had pads on Wednesday and Thursday… You weren’t on no video games… and then all of a sudden think you gonna get your ass out there in triple degree heat...?”
  — Joe, on old-school training vs. today ([46:52])

• “If AJ happens to go to the Rams… then Devante Adams goes to the Eagles. That’d be…”
  — Ocho ([65:21])

---

Fun, Banter & Story Moments

• Ocho is routinely heckled for his “upset-heavy” March Madness picks, especially in the women’s bracket ([17:26]).
• Uncle and Joe trade stories about grueling college practices, “bull in the ring,” and how toughness was non-negotiable for football success ([48:10]–[56:04]).
• Joe boasts about dominating physical drills—“ask anybody about Sean and Bull in the Ring” ([56:05]).
• Repeated lighthearted taunts about whose bracket will get “sent to the shredder” by Saturday ([06:45]).

---

Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Men’s bracket predictions & banter: [03:33] – [15:31]
• Women’s bracket predictions: [15:31] – [23:30]
• Chiefs evaluating Russell Wilson: [29:05] – [33:08]
• Defensive schemes/free agency chat: [33:08] – [39:03]
• Troy Aikman’s injury theory discussion: [42:37] – [61:20]
• AJ Brown/Eagles trade segment: [62:39] – [67:37]

---

Closing Notes

This episode is a blend of personal NFL wisdom, playful ribbing, and Xs-and-Os insight. The show’s trademark chemistry is front and center, from heartfelt stories of gridiron toughness to sharp rundowns of current league news. Anyone who loves football culture—from the locker room to the front office—will find a lot to enjoy in this Nightcap Hour.

Transcript

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest. For Albertsons and Safeway, it is Stock up savings time now through March 31st. Spring in for storewide deals and earn four times the points. Look for in store tags to earn on eligible items from Goldfish, Keebler, Doritos, all M&M's, Drumstick, Altshine and Kellogg's. Then clip the offer in the app for automatic event long savings. Stack up those rewards to save even more. Enjoy savings on top of savings when you shop in store or online for easy drive up and go pickup or delivery restrictions apply. See website for full terms and conditions.

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Representative]

Everyone deserves to be Connected T Mobile and US Cellular are joining forces. Our networks are coming together bringing more T Mobile coverage all over the country. Switch to T Mobile and save up to 20% versus Verizon by getting built in benefits they leave out. Check the math@t mobile.com switch and now T mobile is available in the US cellular store in Pasco. Bigger network the combination of T Mobile and US Cellular's network footprints will enhance the T Mobile network's coverage savings versus comparable Verizon plans plus the costs of options, benefits, plan features and taxes and fees vary. Savings with three plus lines include third free line free via monthly bill credits Credit stop if you cancel any lines qualifying credit required.

[Public Investing Representative]

Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year. You can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures there's

[Lenovo Pro Representative]

no championship league for small business owners, but if there was you'd be at the top of the standings because going pro with Lenovo Pro means you've got the winning formation. One on one advice IT solutions and customized hardware powered by Intel Core Ultra processors help you stay ahead of the competition. Business goes pro with Lenovo Pro Sign up for [e-mail] Pro.

[Orderly Meds Representative]

Are you trying to get weight loss support through telehealth? But it feels overwhelming and rushed? Check out orderlymeds.com now. Orderlymeds.com was built to be different. Here you connect with real doctors who take the time to understand your goals, review your eligibility and guide you through a plan that's right for you. Orderly Meds provides access to proven GLP1 medications like semaglutide and Tirzepatide, including both name brand options and personalized compound versions when appropriate. So you have choices backed by clinical oversight, not guesswork. It's a simpler, more supportive telehealth experience designed around people who want clarity, care and confidence in their weight loss journey. And your medication is delivered directly to your home in discreet packaging so your experience stays private from start to finish. Do your research, ask the right questions, then visit orderlymeds.com podcast for an exclusive offer. Again, that's orderlymeds.com podcast. Individual results may vary. Not medical advice. Eligibility required. See Cite for details.

[Joe]

Duke took it though. Number one overall seed in Selection Sunday, with Arizona, Michigan, defending champs Florida rounding out the number one seeds. And without further ado, Ocho and Joe and I are going to reveal our full completed brackets. Well, Ocho. Yeah, the Ocho gonna read Ocho. Oh Lord have mercy.

[Ocho]

Now you. You read it. I could barely see mine.

[Joe]

All right, you got Duke

[Ocho]

before you start, right? For all the people that are watching, if you made a bracket, this is a great time to look at mine and cheat because this is exactly how March Madness is going to go and I could win us a whole lot of money. Okay, go ahead.

[Joe]

By Saturday, this is what you'll be able to do to oo's bracket.

[Ocho]

All right, all right.

[Joe]

I'm telling you, all right, he got, obviously he got a Duke. Okay, he has duke, Ohio State, St. John's Kansas, Louisville, Michigan State, UCLA, UConn advancing. And then he has Duke and Kansas, Michigan State, UCLA advancing. Then he has Duke, Kansas. I know he has Duke over Kansas and UCLA over Michigan State. So in the east coming out, he has Duke facing UCLA in the bottom half of the bracket. He has Florida, Clemson, McNeese, Nebraska, North Carolina, Illinois, Texas A M, Houston advancing. And then he has, well, that's a tough over Clemson, Nebraska over Magnet, North Carolina over Illinois, Houston over Texas A M. He has Florida over Nebraska, Houston over North Carolina, and then he has Houston to upset number one seed Florida. Okay, and I guess this is the West. He has Arizona, Utah State, Wisconsin, Arkansas, byu, Kennesaw State, Miami, Florida, Purdue. And then he has Miami over Miami, Florida over Purdue, BYU over Kennesaw State, Arkansas over Wisconsin, Arizona over Utah State, and then he has Arizona over Arkansas, Miami tripping over byu. And then he has Arizona in the Final Four. He has Duke in the Final Four. He has Houston in the Final Four. In the Midwest. He has Michigan, St. Louis, Texas Tech, Alabama, Tennessee, Virginia, Santa Clara, Iowa State advancing. And then he has Michigan to advance, Alabama to advance, Virginia to advance, Iowa State to advance. He has Virginia to advance, Michigan to advance. And then Virginia beats Michigan and they go to the Final Four. And he has. Cutting down the nets. Arizona.

[Uncle]

They ain't. Ain't a bad pick.

[Ocho]

I know. I know. I know. It's not.

[Uncle]

You got decent. You got decent bracket, you know, get you off to a good start after that. Yeah, you.

[Joe]

You got him hyped up straight to the shredder on Saturday.

[Ocho]

Listen. Hey, y'. All. Y'. All. Y' all don't understand. It's. It's only one game. The way you think things are gonna go, that. It never happens the way you think it's gonna go.

[Uncle]

I. I already know. You over there picking mascots. I know you don't know what's going on.

[Joe]

Hey, mascot, look the best, all right? Joe gotta. Joe has duke, Ohio State, St. John's Kansas, Louisville, Michigan State, UCLA and UConn to advance in the first round. And then he has Duke, St. John's Michigan State, UCLA. And then he has St. John's Michigan State, and then he has St. John's beating St. John's beating Michigan State in the east. And then in the south, he has Florida, Clemson, Vanderbilt, Nebraska, North Carolina, Illinois, Texas A and M, Houston to advance, and then Florida, Vanderbilt, Illinois, Houston to advance. And then he has Florida to beat Vanderbilt, Houston to be Illinois and in Florida to beat Houston. And then he has Florida to beat St. John's to advance to the Final Four and the west bracket. He has Arizona, Villanova, Wisconsin, Arkansas, byu, Gonzaga, Miami over Florida, Miami and Purdue to advance. And then he has Arizona over Villanova, Arkansas over Wisconsin, BYU over Gonzaga, Purdue over Miami, BYU over Purdue, Arkansas over Arizona.

[Uncle]

What's funny?

[Joe]

What's funny?

[Ocho]

Hey, you talk about my bracket.

[Joe]

Arkansas to beat BYU and pass to the Final Four. In the Midwest, he got Michigan, St. Louis, Texas Tech, Alabama, Tennessee, Virginia, Kentucky, Iowa State to advance. And then he has Michigan, Alabama, Virginia, Iowa State to advance. And then he has Michigan over Alabama, Virginia, Iowa State over Virginia, and he has Michigan over Iowa State. And then he has. In the Final Four. His Final Four is Florida, Arkansas, Michigan and St. John's so he has Michigan, Arkansas, Michigan and Florida to beat St. John's Arkansas to beat Florida, and then they face.

[Uncle]

Hey, hey, hey. When we see Florida again, they get back a mug. You hear me? They get back a mug on the biggest stage.

[Joe]

Watch.

[Uncle]

We're gonna catch Florida.

[Joe]

All right, put them down. I got it.

[Uncle]

Sounds good.

[Joe]

Ohio State, St. John's Kansas, Louisville, Michigan State, UCF, Yukon. And then I got Duke, St. John's Louisville, Yukon. And then I Got St. John's Louisville. And then I got St. John's advancing the bottom half, I got Florida, Clemson, Vanderbilt, Nebraska, North Carolina, Illinois, St. Mary's and Houston. And then I got Florida, Vanderbilt, Illinois, Houston. And then I got Vanderbilt, Houston. And then I got Houston over Vanderbilt. Top half of the west bracket, I got Arizona, Villanova, Wisconsin, Arkansas, byu, Gonzaga, Missouri, Purdue. And then I got Arizona over Villanova. I got Arkansas over Wisconsin, Gonzaga over byu, Purdue over Missouri. I got Purdue over Gonzaga, I got Arkansas over Arizona. And then I got Arkansas to advance over Purdue. In the bottom half, I got Michigan, St. Louis, Texas Tech, Bama, Tennessee, Virginia, Santa Clara, Iowa State. And then I got Michigan to beat St. Louis. I got Alabama to beat Texas Tech, I got Virginia to beat Tennessee, and I got Iowa State to beat Santa Clara. And I got Iowa State to beat Virginia, Alabama to beat Michigan, and Iowa State to beat Alabama. And I got Arkansas to beat Iowa state. I got St. John's to beat Houston, and I got. Cutting down the nets, St. John's hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Uncle]

You got a decent break. You just need to flip flop your championship game team. You got the right team. You just gotta flip the scenario. I don't know what you got going on over there.

[Joe]

You ain't bad.

[Uncle]

I like how you thinking over there. Boy, you might have been copying off my bracket a little bit.

[Joe]

I tell you what I did do. I didn't go by mascots. I didn't pick the mascot. Whoever had the best looking mascot.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Ocho]

Listen, y'. All. Y' all using your. Your basketball knowledge and using your logic and common sense to pick the teams. And it never goes that way. That's how I know neither one of y' all gonna be in that end.

[Uncle]

Yeah, you got all top.

[Joe]

That's all he do.

[Uncle]

It's gonna be some upsets.

[Joe]

That's why they call it.

[Uncle]

I got y', all.

[Joe]

I'm telling you.

[Uncle]

Oh, man, I'm killing y' all in the chat, too. They rolling with you, boy.

[Joe]

That's okay.

[Ocho]

The chat don't know no better.

[Uncle]

Yeah, you do. I bet you my brain could be better than y'.

[Orderly Meds Representative]

All.

[Ocho]

You won't bet nothing.

[Joe]

Nah, Joe.

[Uncle]

What you bet?

[Joe]

That ain't gonna happen.

[Uncle]

What you mean?

[Joe]

I like my bracket. I like the upsets.

[Uncle]

Well, y' all boys in trouble.

[Joe]

Ocho, pin the tail on the brake on the bracket.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, it took me. It took me three hours to make my bracket, man.

[Joe]

I could have made your bracket 3 minutes. Wrong, but I got this.

[Ocho]

Hey, you heard me, Joe.

[Uncle]

What'd you say?

[Ocho]

Man, I sat there for about damn near two, three hours, man, doing my due diligence and homework, you know, before. Before I made my bracket, man.

[Uncle]

Hey, hey, what's up with you and uncle and y' all fashion pink and all that today? I ain't get the memo. What's up?

[Ocho]

I don't got on pink.

[Uncle]

I don't got a little pink in his shirt. You got a little hot pink, which I got going.

[Ocho]

You know, this. This is.

[Joe]

Unless you got a. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Background.

[Ocho]

Look, look, look.

[Uncle]

Pinkish red. It's for the Hogs, baby. You know, we still celebrating over here. I'm sorry. Come on, chill, chill, chill. Let us enjoy our moment, man. Hey, y'.

[Ryan Seacrest]

All.

[Joe]

Oh, y'.

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Representative]

All.

[Joe]

What are y' all on? Y' all on Eastern time or Central time?

[Uncle]

We're on Central time.

[Joe]

Okay, you got another hour. Enjoy. You got another hour. Enjoy. Man, the thing about these brackets, you never. You look, you. You always, like, okay, the number one seed, but, man, anything can happen on a given, on a given, on a given. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. You have no earthly idea what could possibly happen. We've seen it. Expect the unexpected from when Villanova beat Georgetown to an NC State beat Houston. It started with Texas Western beating Kentucky.

[Uncle]

Yeah, man. Man, listen, it's not.

[Ocho]

It's.

[Uncle]

It's. It's nothing like March Madness. I remember Uncle Ocho when I was in high school, bro, junior high school, when the Razorbacks played. Cause, you know, that's more like our NBA team. We ain't had no right NBA professional team. But the Razorbacks was there, you know, in the 90s. They were always good.

[Joe]

Yeah, y' all had Sydney Monkey.

[Uncle]

Yeah, we had Sydney Moncrief. Ron Brewer, Lee, Mayberry. Tie day. We had squad, Cortis, Williamson, Scotty Thurman. Them dudes, they went to back to back natties one one.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

So the 90s, we were always pretty good. And I remember they were shut down if the Razorbacks was playing, bro, you go to class, you know how they roll. They wheel them big TVs in there. The big, big TV.

[Joe]

They wheel them in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle]

We watching the game gonna be on today. The whole school shut down. Every class got the game on. So those are moments that I always remember. So when I see, you know, the Razorbacks playing like they did this weekend, bro, and winning the sec, you know, championship, it take me back to my childhood memories. So, I don't know. I'm still in a little awe by how those dudes played throughout this whole weekend.

[Joe]

All right, Ocho, now we did a women's bracket also.

[Uncle]

Uh.

[Joe]

Oh, Ocho, I' ma read. Ocho's right, yo. All right, we starting out in the east. We got Yukon, Syracuse, Maryland, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Colorado, Vanderbilt. And then he has Syracuse. I mean, he has Yukon over Syracuse, North Carolina over Maryland, Ohio State over Notre Dame, Vanderbilt over Colorado. And he has Yukon over North Carolina, Ohio State over Vanderbilt, Yukon over Ohio State. And in the bottom half, he has South Carolina, usc, Michigan State, Oklahoma, South Dakota State, tcu, Georgia, Iowa. And then he has South Carolina advancing, Oklahoma advancing, TCU advancing, Iowa advancing. He has South Carolina over Oklahoma, TCU over Iowa, and he has TCU to upset South Carolina. Top, he has ucla, Princeton, Gonzaga, Minnesota, Baylor, Duke, Texas Tech, lsu. And then he has UCLA to beat Princeton, Gonzaga to beat Minnesota, Duke to beat Baylor, LSU to beat Texas Tech, Duke to be lsu, UCLA to beat Gonzaga, and UCLA over Duke. And in the bottom half, he has Texas, Oregon, Kentucky, Miami of Ohio, Alabama, Louisville, North Carolina State, Michigan. And then he has Texas over Oregon, Kentucky over Miami overhile, Louisville over Alabama, Michigan over NC State, and he has Texas over Kentucky, Michigan over Louisville, and then he has Michigan to upset Texas. I'm gonna go ahead and borrow yours up in the trash. Put it in the trash right now.

[Uncle]

That man. That man got TCU beating South Carolina.

[Joe]

Here's Ocho. Women's.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey.

[Uncle]

All right.

[Joe]

Hey, Chad. This man got. He got Texas losing, South Carolina losing and Duke. And he got Duke losing. No,

[Ocho]

hey, you. Do you do realize this is March?

[Joe]

It don't be like that for the women, though. It's just like that for the men. All right, but. Okay.

[Uncle]

All right,

[Joe]

here in my bracket I got Yukon, North Carolina, Ohio State, Vanderbilt, and then I got Yukon, North Carolina, Ohio State, Vanderbilt, and then I got Yukon, Ohio state. I got UConn over Ohio State. I got South Carolina, Clemson, Michigan State, Oklahoma, Washington, tcu, Georgia, Iowa, and then I go South Carolina, Oklahoma, tcu, Iowa, South Carolina, tcu. I got South Carolina over tcu. At the top half, I'm going ucla, Oklahoma State, Ole Miss, Minnesota, Baylor, Duke, Texas Tech, lsu. I got LSU over Texas Tech. I got Baylor over Duke. I got Ole Miss over Minnesota. I got UCLA over Oklahoma. I got UCLA over Ole Miss. I got LSU over Baylor, I got UCLA over lsu. In the bottom half, I got Texas, Oregon, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama, Louisville, Tennessee, Michigan, and then I got Texas, West Virginia, Alabama, Michigan, and then I got Texas over West Virginia. I got Michigan over Alabama, and then I got Texas over Michigan. I got Yukon over South Carolina, I got Texas over ucla, and then I got the national champions back to back, the Lady Huskers of Stores.

[Uncle]

I said Husky.

[Joe]

The Lady. The Lady Huskies of Stores. Ocho, I'm sorry.

[Uncle]

I might. I might seem. I'm send mine in Am.

[Joe]

No, you don't copy that was not up. Ain't late.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe. Hey, just. Hey, Joe, just follow my story.

[Joe]

You got the wrong bracket up there. What bracket y' all got up there? Yeah, where the ladies bracket at? It ain't up there. Oh, okay.

[Uncle]

Yeah, there it is.

[Joe]

Yeah. Can y' all see it now?

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Ladies strong and fud. Too much.

[Uncle]

Let me see.

[Joe]

Sarah strong. They too much. And Gino.

[Uncle]

Hey, hey. I'm gonna tell you where you messed up at.

[Ocho]

Mess up at, though.

[Uncle]

And when he picked Vander, when he picked Ohio State girls over Vanderbilt.

[Joe]

Oh, look, I like Shay Vanderbilt. You know, she played. Hey, she played it, but you'll see.

[Uncle]

All right,

[Joe]

all right.

[Uncle]

I. I got you, boy.

[Joe]

Oh, Joe, you see what he did? He already saw we picked up. Gonna try to pick opposite of us.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Uncle]

I mean, well, I'm for sure ain't gonna pick what y' all picking. I'm not doing that.

[Ocho]

Well, you definitely ain't gonna win if you ain't picking what I'm picking.

[Joe]

Yeah, you go ahead and pick a restaurant. You might.

[Ocho]

You might. You might. You might want to follow my lead.

[Joe]

N. Don't do that. I already threw yours in the trash.

[Uncle]

Oo, you out of there.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. What's my prize when I win?

[Joe]

You're not winning. You're not winning on Joe. We haven't thought that part advanced

[Ocho]

One thing, boy. Y' all Hating on my. On my. On my picks.

[Joe]

We have. We have not thought that far in advance.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, you been in the gym?

[Uncle]

Come on, man, stop playing. Oh, Joe, I'm just.

[Ocho]

I'm just making sure, bro, because you. Hey, you gonna have. You gonna have hell on your hands soon.

[Joe]

What?

[Uncle]

Well, you make. Hey, you just making it worse for yourself, man. If I was you.

[Ocho]

I'm just telling you, Joe boy, you finna have hell on your hands, boy. You hear me?

[Joe]

Look, if. If USC had juju, we'd be talking something different. If South Carolina had Chloe kids, we might be talking something different. Right? I just don't see nobody. I just don't see anyone beating Yukon. I don't.

[Uncle]

They too good. Ain't they?

[Joe]

Strong and foot.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Hey, all it take. All it take is one game.

[Ocho]

I keep trying to tell you all that. Y' all ain't listening to me.

[Joe]

How you keep it close with them? Ain't nobody been close. Yeah, they got a one, two. They got. They're gonna have two all Americans. And that's normally what UConn does. They have two all Americans. They normally have. At least going into the ncaa, if it hasn't been often, they didn't have the best player or one of the three best players. You go back and look at it from Sue Bird into Rousey to Swing cash to Tina Charles to Maya Moore. It doesn't matter, right, Stewie? I mean, Renee Montgomery. I mean, you just go look at their rosters. They're gonna have one. They're gonna have a top three player in all the women's college basketball. A lot of times they got the best player. And here, lo and behold, here we are again. Yeah. Oh, I like our big Alba State crooks. Big Audi. Big out of BE H. That thing.

[Uncle]

Oh, we. Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe]

They.

[Ocho]

They.

[Uncle]

They can't talk.

[Joe]

She go out in 5,000 on them. Get up out of here.

[Uncle]

Hey, she obese. She obese.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It is stock up savings time now through March 31st. Spring in for store wide deals and earn four times the points. Look for in store tags to earn on eligible items from Goldfish, Keebler, Doritos, all M M's, Drumstick Outshine and Kellogg's. Then clip the offer in the app for automatic event long savings. Stack up those rewards to save even more. Enjoy savings on top of savings when you shop in store or online for easy drive up and go pick up or delivery restrictions apply. See website for full terms and conditions.

[Orderly Meds Representative]

We're lost. It feels like we're going round in circles. I'm gonna ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds.

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Representative]

Well, you're gonna take a left at the old oak tree at this here road. Nah, I'm just kidding. Let me get my phone out.

[Orderly Meds Representative]

How is their signal out here?

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Representative]

T Mobile and US Cellular are coming together so the network out here is huge. We get the same great signal as the city. Saving a boatload with benefits. And there's a five year price guarantee too. Okay, here's the turn.

[Orderly Meds Representative]

Actually, can you pull up the way

[Joe]

to a T Mobile store?

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Representative]

America's best network just got bigger. Switch to T mobile today and get built in benefits the other guys leave out. Plus our five year price guarantee. And now T Mobile is available at US Cellular stores in hermiston. Best mobile network Based on analysis by Ooklove Speed test intelligence data second half of 2025 bigger network. The combination of T Mobile's and US Cellular's network footprints will enhance the T Mobile network's coverage price guarantee on talk text and data exclusions like taxes and fees apply. See t mobile.com for details. This is Julian Edelman from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jewels. All right, real quick, take a look at yourself right now.

[Joe]

Why?

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Representative]

What's wrong? Nothing's wrong. You look like a guy running on three hours of sleep and vibes.

[Joe]

Okay, yeah, I'm tired, kind of cranky and very thirsty.

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Representative]

Congrats. Those are some of the potential signs of mild dehydration. And I bet your last bathroom break showed you another sign your body might be throwing you a penalty flag.

[Joe]

So what's the play?

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Representative]

Call Liquid IV hydration multiplier one stick in water. Helps hydrate faster than water alone. Okay, but where's the proof? Liquid IV's clinical studies, not just a guy. I know real science. Results you can trust.

[Joe]

Well, take a look at me now. Liquid IV is officially part of my daily hydration routine. Past the firecracker popsicle flavor.

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Representative]

Stay hydrated like a pro, not like Jack before this. Stock up on Liquid IV hydration [e-mail] and use the promo code nuthouse for 20% off your first purchase.

[Public Investing Representative]

Support for the show comes from public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI, it all starts with your prompt from renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year. You can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures there's

[Lenovo Pro Representative]

no championship league for small business owners, but if there was, you'd be at the top of the standings. Because going pro with Lenovo Pro means you've got the winning formation. One on one advice IT solutions and customized hardware powered by Intel Core Ultra processors help you stay ahead of the competition. Business goes pro with Lenovo Pro. Sign up for [e-mail] Pro.

[Joe]

But y' all in trouble. Y' all are in trouble.

[Uncle]

This. This here was easy work, huh?

[Joe]

This is Joe. Who you got winning

[Uncle]

girl?

[Ocho]

Ain't that hard, Joe.

[Uncle]

I sit there and scan, man. Is South Carolina missing somebody?

[Joe]

Well, no, no, no. They got. They got guards. They got Tessa Johnson and Raven Johnson. They got another, a girl that was first team all conference. I forget her name. She's really good, though. I'm really good. She's probably gonna be.

[Uncle]

I'm going.

[Joe]

I got first team All America.

[Uncle]

I'mma feel my breakout. I didn't send to y', all, but I got South Carolina winning.

[Joe]

Okay, I like that. Yeah, I just. Man, Gino, man, you know, anytime. Gino, you don't win that many championships.

[Uncle]

Bad Boy.

[Joe]

He done won 112 straight games and 80 straight games and here they are like they done won like 49 in a row.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Bad Boy.

[Joe]

So we'll say. With Patrick Mahomes rehabbing from a torn acl, the Kansas City Chiefs could explore veteran quarterback options, including Russell Wilson. Russell remains unsigned following his departure from the Giants, and his name is among the top remaining free agents still available on the open market. Ocho, Joe, would this be a great landing spot for Russia?

[Ocho]

I mean, oh, can he keep the can he keep the ship afloat with what the Kansas City Chiefs have Offensively, obviously the enemy, Andy Reid will put Russell Wilson in position to be able to, to have success. The onus of, of winning those games aren't going to be burdened with on his shoulders. I think they have enough offensively where, where he can come in and ride that ship and keep that team afloat with wins until Patrick Mahomes is ready to come back, if he's ready to come back before the season starts. To me, his veteran presence, his veteran leadership, obviously being a former super bowl winning quarterback, I think it would be dope. It would be dope there.

[Uncle]

Yeah, I think it'll be great insurance. Ocho, you know, not sure how long Holmes is going to be out, but to have somebody back there, veteran presence who's kind of been around the block, knows the ropes and I think he could definitely, you know, use some of those weapons that Kansas City has. I think he'll be a great, great QB to have it to him until Mahomes can get back healthy. But coming off of acl, fellas, I know that, I know he ain't got to do a whole lot of moving, but man, it ain't just no easy injury just to be coming back six to eight months, nine months, like.

[Joe]

Well, it's just not the acl. He tore something because remember he had the Dallas doctor to do that surgery, the Cowboys, and he's a special when they, when they tear multiple ligaments in that knee. He's the guy that a lot of guys go to and did because he's one of the foremost authorities on knees when you're tearing multiple ligaments. So that tells me that this is a lot more extensive than just a typical ACL where they go real, you know, they do a cadaver or they take some of the patella, tendon infuse it. It tells me it's a little bit more extensive than that. And the question is he did this in what, December, January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September. That's nine months.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I think the thing what has happened is that we look at Adrian Peterson and we expect everybody to come back like Adrian Peterson and to be Adrian Peterson. Ocho and Joe.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Hey, that boy was a reptile or something. He was better.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

After he got hurt, I heard, yeah, he healed differently. Boy, he was a different animal. He's a different animal. Obviously everybody, everybody rehabs and heals different from injuries, but something as significant as that, for him to come back and do what he was able to do. I mean, obviously, if I was one to get injured, I would copy everything Adrian Peterson did. I mean, I just would. Same doctor, same rehab. I don't care who. I need everything you did, I need to know what you ate. Everything.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. And the thing is, is that obviously now you definitely need offensive line to protect. They think they're going to be able to run the ball a little better with K9, Ocho. They. They think, yeah. Upgraded. The question is, can you upgrade your offensive line? You know, you moved on from your right tackle, Juwan.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe]

And so it's going to be very, very interesting to see what they do offensively. Do they add a receiver? Defensively, they moved on. They, you know, they let both of their corners go. Ocho. They lost a safety, a starting safety to the. The. The Chiefs. They lost a lot of backup defensive line, but I think the starters are still there, but they've lost a lot of backups. So it's going to look. They, they. They've got to rebuild this thing. They've kind of let the cupboard kind of let the covers go bare because you're winning and you say, well, you're just going to keep winning with what we got. Go ahead, Ocho.

[Ocho]

I was going to say luxurious need just got released by the Titans. I think there might be a scenario where he comes back. There might be a snare when he comes back. He's familiar with the defense. Spags is for me with him and what he can do, especially with Trent McDuffie going. I'm not sure who's next in line to step up as that veteran presence on that defense, but I think maybe bringing Jerry Sneed back into that defense a fold, as good as he was while he was there, I mean, it would. It'd be. It'd be good.

[Joe]

I just want to know why these guys that when they leave spags, they never be the same.

[Ocho]

I think. I think with the Jerry's, if I'm not mistaken, Correct me if I'm wrong, Chad. I mean, I think injuries, injuries played a big part.

[Joe]

What about True Davious War?

[Ocho]

He. He's hurt. He was hurt too, wasn't he?

[Joe]

San Francisco. He didn't play like he did in Kansas City. Now he went to Indy. Yeah. He got hurt in Indy.

[Ocho]

He got hurt. Yeah.

[Joe]

It's almost like. It's kind of like. You know what it's like, Ocho, Think about the guys, the defensive guys that leave New England. Remember JC Jackson got all that money to go to the Chargers.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And I'm a damn, damn, damn. Just cut him before the season was over. Five years 82 million.

[Uncle]

Hey, what is it?

[Joe]

Is it.

[Uncle]

Is it the defensive schemes that's different from other teams or white guys?

[Joe]

Yeah, sometimes it's the scheme and you get. The Patriots do a great job of whatever your weaknesses. Is. Are they never put you in a situation where you get to expose them.

[Ocho]

Bingo. Yeah.

[Uncle]

And.

[Ocho]

And, and to Joe. Oh, I mean Uncle Joe in Kansas City, they run that two shell a lot. A lot. So you really know you're really not on the island by yourself.

[Joe]

Right.

[Ocho]

You can get exposed. We always have help over top. Yeah, yeah. Most. Most of the time. Then you go to other teams, they put you. They're not doing it. Especially when. Hey, when. Hey. When they pay you that bag. Yes. Out there by yourself, boy.

[Uncle]

Nothing over the top. You.

[Joe]

It's just you.

[Ocho]

Hey, boy, you out there by yourself. So at times you, You. You tend to get exposed a little bit.

[Joe]

Remember Larry Brown for the Cowboys? They played quarters. He was Super Bowl MVP for Dallas.

[Ocho]

Oh, number 24.

[Joe]

He go to the Raiders. Don't play nothing, man.

[Ocho]

Covered. Yeah.

[Joe]

Basted him every Sunday. Hey, you got to be careful. Go and play for the Raiders because they play man coverage now. I don't know, maybe they've changed it on show, but in the 90s when I was there, it was straight, man. Hey, them guys didn't even go to the huddle because they already know what it was. They go to damn huddle for what? You already know what it is.

[Ocho]

Yeah, they did. They did that when I was playing too long. Straight, man. Straight man. I remember that.

[Joe]

But you got a. Remember that to like to play snap after snap after snap after snap.

[Ocho]

Right in your face.

[Joe]

Hey, coach, you don't want to change it up. You don't want to go quarters a little bit. You don't want to play cover two.

[Uncle]

You just gonna play everything.

[Ocho]

Nope.

[Uncle]

Hey, I'm saying. I'm saying no matter how the game

[Joe]

going, they playing Joe.

[Ocho]

They. Hey, they in your face every dime.

[Joe]

That's how Buddy was Buddy Ryan with the Bears. They play, man.

[Ocho]

Yeah, but you know, I remember that if you could get.

[Joe]

If you could stand in there and get the ball off, okay, you. There's a potential for a big play, but we gonna knock hell out you.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Joe]

Everybody. Everybody can't play like that, man. Everybody. Everybody can't play like that. It's just like some receivers, you go and everybody, they stack the formation, they bunch the formation. They got all These rub routes, and then when you get there and they ain't got all them bunch of stack formations, they say, get two yards outside the number and go get open, son. Your collar like this here. You get off me.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe. Hey, that's like. Hey, Joe. That's like you calling for ISO.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Having no package, you create no separation.

[Joe]

Yeah. So it. It. I think. But the thing. And this is what I tell this tell. I tell people all the time, if you go spend a boatload of money, ocho on somebody, you better use that mofo. What? You fall in love.

[Ocho]

Exactly.

[Joe]

You get him because you fell in love with him because he could drive a forklift. Now you got him being a cashier and talking about why your money short live. No damn cashier, Right? So you wonder why. Man, I ain't.

[Ocho]

I ain't get.

[Joe]

I ain't get no sacks, bro. You got him two gapping. You got to put him on the edge and let him go.

[Ocho]

Yeah. A lot of. A lot of coaches, a lot of coordinators, they never go away from their scheme. They get a player and want that player to fit what they do not understand. And listen, you got him for a reason. Why not just play to his strengths, understand what he does well, you know, throw a little wrinkle, a little wrinkle or two in there away from what you like to do. We know it's your scheme. We know it's your tactic.

[Joe]

We.

[Ocho]

We understand that, but no. Maximize everything you can out of each player, understanding what they do best and put them in position to do so. Coaches, don't do that.

[Joe]

You will fit my scheme exactly. Hell, no. You better get somebody. Look, why'd you fall in love with him? He didn't play your scheme. He didn't play your scheme while you fell in love with him? He wasn't too gapping. He wasn't no man cover guy. Or the same token, if he's a man cover guy, don't be asking him to play his own, because he gonna get lost. He gonna lose interest.

[Ocho]

Mm.

[Joe]

Let him do what you fell in love with him to do. It's a shower curtain, not a throw rug. It ain't that complicated. And sometimes you guys make it more complicated. What? It needs to be way more.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It is Stock up savings time now through March 31st. Spring in for store wide deals and earn four times the points look for in store tags to earn on eligible Items from Goldfish, Ke Doritos, all M&M's drumstick, outshine and Kellogg's. Then clip the offer in the app for automatic event long savings. Stack up those rewards to save even more. Enjoy savings on top of savings when you shop in store or online for easy drive up and go, pickup or delivery restrictions apply. See website for full terms and conditions.

[Orderly Meds Representative]

We're lost. It feels like we're going round in circles. I'm going to ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds.

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Representative]

Will you? You're going to take a left at the old oak tree at this here road. Nah, I'm just kidding. Let me get my phone out.

[Orderly Meds Representative]

How is their signal out here?

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Representative]

T Mobile and US Cellular are coming together so the network out here is huge. We get the same great signal as the city, saving a boatload with benefits. And there's a five year price guarantee too. Okay, here's the turn actually.

[Orderly Meds Representative]

Can you pull up the way to a T Mobile store?

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Representative]

America's best network just got bigger. Switch to T Mobile today and get built in benefits the other guys leave out. Plus our five year price guarantee. And now T Mobile is available at US Cellular stores in hermiston Best Mobile Network based on analysis by OOKL of Speed test intelligence data. Second half of 2025 bigger network the combination of T Mobile's and US Cellular's network footprints will enhance the T Mobile network's coverage price guarantee on talk text and data exclusions like taxes and fees apply. See t mobile.com for details.

[Public Investing Representative]

Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year. You can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis Tool output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment, recommendation or advice. Complete disclosure is available at public.com disclosures

[Lenovo Pro Representative]

pro drivers live for race day, but for small business owners, every day is race day. That's why going pro with Lenovo Pro matters. One on one advice. IT solutions and customized hardware powered by Intel Core Ultra processors. Keep your business on the right track. Business goes pro with Lenovo Pro. Sign up for [e-mail] Pro.

[Orderly Meds Representative]

When people turn to healthcare for weight loss, they're looking for real support. That's why more people are choosing orderlymeds.com orderly meds connects you with real doctors and access to proven GLP1 medications like semaglutide and Tirzepatide. No guessing, just a more supportive experience and all shipped directly to your door in discreet packaging. Do your research, ask questions, then visit orderlymeds.com podcast for an exclusive offer. That's orderlymeds.com podcast. Individual results may vary. Not medical advice, eligibility required. See Cite for details.

[Joe]

Okay Ocho Troy Aikman thinks one rule designed to reduce wear and tear on the players bodies maybe actually cause some of the injuries. Back then you did two a days, that kind of heat. Two a day after day after day, two practices in full pass, no restriction. Probably for the better. The players aren't as taxed as they were. But Aikman added that there is a trade off. Players aren't physically prepared to start the season. But some of it we have to do a lot with. The reason I think so many injuries, especially early in the year, a lot of soft tissue injuries, a lot of muscle pulls and things of that nature is that the players are just not able to train the way they once did. They're not able to callous their bodies as easily now that their training is hard all the time, all that. But it's a different training on your own as opposed to being on the football field practicing football movements. Ocho, you and I been saying that now see we've been saying that.

[Ocho]

Yeah, same thing. Same thing he just said in a different way. You know I obviously I think they we they don't train enough. Again he used the word I always use about being able to callous the body. Being able to callous the body so it's able to withstand going from 0 to 100 on game day as opposed to the way practices are. They'd be out. I mean they'd be half assing Joe. I mean no, no disrespect to the way things are right now but yeah, I mean, call a spade a spade. It is what it is. I don't think they practice the same way we used to practice back then. Obviously, injuries are going to happen. Injuries are going to happen, but at the, they're happening now at an alarming rate, and there has to be something, Something to it. I think it may be what they do in the off season, maybe what they do in training camp, maybe it's not enough. But, I mean, with the way they, they've asked for a little bit more leniency when it comes to the hours that are spent on the practice field. I mean, this, this is what you get in a sense.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I just, I'm just a firm believer. I, I, I, I agree with Troy. Our, Our bodies were a lot more calloused because we did a lot more in the beginning. You know, we would put you on the ground, but then you, you still thud it up as, as we kind of moved towards, got towards the middle 90s and, and things of that nature. We thud it up. We didn't really take it to the ground, but your body's got used to that. You ask these guys to go 50 miles an hour all week long, and then come Sunday, go 100. Yeah, that's hard. You, you've got to tell. You've got to put that car to the test at some point in time. You got to open it up Ocho, to see what it'll do.

[Uncle]

Yeah,

[Joe]

but they go out there, let's meet, let's walk through. Let's meet, let's walk through. Ain't no damn meeting to walk through on Sunday. You got to put your, you got to put your body under the gun, right? If you want the body, if you want the body to respond to a certain nuke stimuli, you got to put the body under that stimuli.

[Ocho]

Got you.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I don't get it, but, you know, but they wanted, they want to do hiding A skips and B skips and, and they want to do all that. And I get it, okay? I get it, I get it. Hey, but come on now. You play football?

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, football.

[Joe]

Put wear and tear on your body.

[Ocho]

Yeah, it does.

[Joe]

They put helmet on you, they put pads on you. Hey. They tackle your ass to the ground. And that nice speed and that hot knee action. I get all that. But what good is that on show if your body, as soon as somebody hits you, you shatter like ice hitting the floor. I.

[Uncle]

Hey, listen, that's why they talk about. It's kind of the same thing in basketball. That's why they talking about, man, we

[Joe]

need to cut it down?

[Uncle]

Yeah, yeah, but they ain't gonna take

[Joe]

10 games worth of salary off.

[Uncle]

There we go. There we go. There we go. So, you know, I agree with y', all, though. I just think, like. Like. Like Troy said that their body's not as callous, you know, as it was back in the day. Like, bro, this all we did. And, yeah, like, nowadays, all you see is walkthroughs and play time and practice. And then, like you say, when game time come, now you gotta rev it up to this height that you ain't accustomed to getting it to. And this is what causes the injuries.

[Joe]

Yeah, we just. I mean, shit was live. I mean, we hit during the week. 907 was real. We were pad. I mean, we had pads on Wednesday and Thursday, and you had on shorts and shoulder pads on Friday. That was my first three years. That was my first three years. Even 707. O2. They thought it. It wasn't like, guys touch you on the waist now? Oh, no, no, sir.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, you caught a comeback, and you caught something. The DBs came, and they put that putting pads on. You square them up?

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Just let you know I'm here, that contact. But. But now that's not. And I. Look, I get it. It's a different time now. I think Coach Saban. I mean, maybe those old school college coaches did, like, what we did in the 90s coming along, because Bill Davis ain't bull jack, bro. We was out there two and a half hours, and we were getting it. And y' all know if you in the south, you know, it's hot, hot, and somebody pass out, move the pile, they tend to him back there. We move up to. Hey, if he got hurt on the defensive side, we move back 20 yards. If he hurt on the opposite side, we moved up 10 yards. But you not finna stop nothing.

[Ocho]

Yeah, the show stop, bro.

[Joe]

Man, we have guys having seizures. He gonna be okay. Are you gonna be okay? Dude, foaming at the mouth and everything. Go choke. We ain't stopping no practice. Break a leg or something. Break her arm. You boy, Ain't no practice.

[Ocho]

Nah. Hey, hey, hey. We gonna come pat you on the helmet.

[Joe]

You okay?

[Ocho]

Make sure you good that. That whistle blow. Hey, yeah.

[Uncle]

Y' all ever have teammates come in today, they'd be like, hey, hey, sharp. Hey. Oh, I ain't got it today. I'm from fake meal injury today. I ain't got it today, man.

[Joe]

No, Joe. But my first year, we did have a lot of Guys, because like I said, Coach Davis told us the first day we met, we met. We had a big old meeting. Coach Davis said I got 60, 65 uniforms. Top. We had 110 guys, right? Coach Davis said I got to trim the fat. I had never heard that saying before.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

In other words, he only wanted lean meat. All that. All that fat wasn't gonna be there. So the first day, before we even started practice, we had 30 minutes of running gases.

[Ocho]

Oh, wait, hold on. Sideline and sideline.

[Joe]

Over was one, over, back, right over, back, over. We went all the way to seven. Oh, twice. Then we started practice with calisthenics.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Okay, he tripping.

[Joe]

And then we had a two hour practice. Man, you ought to heard all them cars cranking up in the middle of night. Joe and Ocho. All you heard was Foot Locker slamming.

[Ocho]

He tripping. That's a lot.

[Uncle]

Hey, boy, look. They remind me of college, man. I ain't never worked that hard in my life. Yes.

[Ocho]

First.

[Uncle]

Hey, hey. The first 45 minutes to an hour practice, you don't even touch a basketball. It's straight conditioning, okay? I'm talking about straight conditioning, medicine ball. I'm talking about. We used to use a basketball, but it was halfway filled with water, right? Like, man, you. We had all type of. He had all type of mind games we were playing. Boy, when you get to college, boy, it got real.

[Joe]

But that's the thing. But that's the thing. Too much. So what you want us to do? You better. The thing is that growing up, Ocho, we. We didn't have people. I'm sure it did, but I didn't hear about it. But we didn't have the media like this. But you conditioned your body to the sun. Cause you was out in the sun. You worked in the sun, you played in the sun all the time. You weren't on no video games. And then all of a sudden, think you gonna get your ass out there in triple degree heat for two for five hours a day and gonna be okay? You had already conditioned your body to get used to that level of heat.

[Uncle]

What?

[Ocho]

Ready for it, bro?

[Joe]

Hey, you.

[Uncle]

Hey.

[Joe]

You get dehydrated? You get woozy? Oh, hey. Bill said go sit up under the tree. Hey, so you all right? Come on, what, though? You just. You were done for the rest of the practice?

[Ocho]

Oh, no.

[Joe]

You better sit your ass off about 5, 10 minutes and get back in there. I'm. Look, it's a different time now. I understand. You can't practice like that. Because when I was. We still do in Oklahoma. We did bully in the ring. We did half line. We did all that.

[Ocho]

I remember that.

[Joe]

All that.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe. I used to do bully in the ring, Joe.

[Uncle]

Hey, what's the bully in the ring? That's the one where you lay down.

[Joe]

Hey, nah, you put one guy in the ring and everybody else circled around him, and everybody got enough, and he just called numbers, and you just got to keep turning around and around. You got to keep moving your feet. He called the number, and that dude come and charge you.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you got to anchor. You got Joe. You got to anchor that.

[Joe]

Hey, I'm the bull, and I'm in the ring. Come on with it.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I used to do it, but I used to do it with the dbs.

[Joe]

Yeah, you know.

[Ocho]

You know, physicality wasn't my. Wasn't my strong suit. You know, being strong wasn't my strong suit, Joe. But that goddamn bullet in the ring

[Uncle]

you used to get right.

[Ocho]

Now, I ain't had no choice but to get right, Joe. I had no choice. I had. I had to anchor down, boy. I had to anchor down. But I'd be the first one to tell you, boy, that was not my strength at all. Like. Like. No, no lie, uncle.

[Uncle]

What you look like in that bull of the ring.

[Joe]

When it came to dbs and safety to me, I make them turn it down. I make them turn it all the way down. As anybody at Savannah State from 1986 to 1989, who be sharp in bull in the ring, who be sharp in Oklahoma? I make them turn it down then. None of them seeing me. None of them.

[Uncle]

They want. They won't know that, Smoke.

[Joe]

Not one. One. Dude, he came from a junior college talking, hey, because I showed up late. I showed up late because it was my senior year. I showed up. I already done called coach Davis. I said, coach Davis, I would be late because I want to make an interest. Oh, I was chill now, you know what I'm saying? Oh, I was chill.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Your boy227. I probably showed up about five and a half, maybe six percent body fat.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

I've been in the sun.

[Ocho]

So.

[Joe]

I'm in the sun. This is my skin right here. That's what I'm looking like. That's what I'm looking like. Jordan Ocho. I've been the sun alone. So when I get there, they say, man, this guy, this DB shot, man, he talking crazy. I said, what are you saying?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

He said, man, Sharp ain't gonna get nothing on me. He cannot run. He ain't strong as me and he cannot jump. I said, okay, first day. Hey, Bill, say, we're gonna see. We're gonna see how tough everybody is today. So we get to practice, we get to practice. So I'm thinking, okay, we gonna. We gonna thud up and we're gonna do. I said, coach Davis, we could. We catching it pass today. Coach Dave said, hell no, Holmes. It's nut cutting time. I called the trainer. I said, come take my thumbs up because I ain't want to mess my thumbs up. I said, take your thumbs up. I'm up first.

[Ocho]

Oh, for you. When you. When you grab in tight, I'm up first.

[Joe]

Yes, sir. So what he gotta do? Okay, they blow the whistle, you backpedal. Hey, hey, you backpedal. And then come. He backpedal. Joe Ocho. And like, when he tried to come forward, he slipped just a little bit. And when he. Yeah, by the time he got ready to get up, I had my knee in his chest. So I picked his head up with my knee and I got it just like this here.

[Ocho]

Yeah,

[Joe]

All your. Everybody hit me on my head. I said, that's it. I'm done.

[Ocho]

You were done.

[Joe]

You say you.

[Uncle]

You had to make a statement, bro.

[Joe]

You're not. How you. You just got here. Do you know, bro, you finna come here and try to show and talk reckless to me, right? Honestly, I tried to kill him. I tried to put him through the ground. He ain't never. He ain't never say anything else to me after that.

[Ocho]

It was a rap.

[Joe]

Nothing. Like I said, I take anybody that went to Savannah State or know somebody that went to Savannah State, ask him about Sean and Bull in the ring of Oklahoma. I guarantee you won't even say, man, man, somebody such and such. I guarantee you won't find nobody to tell you to beat me. Why didn't we.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe. My favorite one. I wasn't good at bull in the ring, but when it's time, when it's

[Joe]

time for one on one, you.

[Ocho]

You don't got to know. You ain't got to play off. Come on. Come on up here, Joe.

[Uncle]

Could nobody.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe. I take a rep, Joe. Yeah. And when my rep over somebody else would go, normally it's tj. TJ would go. I jump right back in line. I take. I take all the one on one rep, Joe. Hey, I mean, it was. It was. It was so funny. It's like I. I enjoyed that. That was my only time where I got to work with the number ones. I got to work with the number one DBs, because obviously, once you go to seven on seven and you go to 11v. 11, it's scout team. So I wanted. I wanted. I wanted my number one DBs that I would be facing, you know, Jonathan Joseph, Delton o', Neal, Tory James, you know.

[Joe]

Oh, you know, Delta. I played with Delta. I played with Tory.

[Ocho]

Oh, you did Remember Jeff Burris, Remember?

[Joe]

From Notre Dame, Right?

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

I didn't. I didn't play with him, but Tory and Delta was with me in. In Denver.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, in Denver. Yeah. Yeah, Joe. So that. That was my time to get my best work in, Joe, Because I don't get to see them boys doing practice.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yeah, man. I. I'm talking about. Joe. I still. If we. If.

[Joe]

If.

[Ocho]

If. If goddamn one on one was 10 minutes, Joe, I got about nine minutes worth of one on one.

[Joe]

I was like that in the league when I was a wide receiver. We had a d. We had a drill, so you had to, like, start. You know, you try to. So they had a dummy back there. So the DB trying to start, and he tried to push through you to touch the dummy. You know, it's like, man, who gonna go against sharp? So, you know, I'm a rookie. You know, everybody like that. I would go against the rookie.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I'm saying in my head, they think I'm so. So, you know, hey, I stalked and everything. I hold him off and, you know, I let him go. And the db, he touched the dummy. I say, nobody else will ever touch this dummy.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Ask. I tell you what. Go ask anybody. When I was a wide receiver my rookie year, when I. From that point on, did anybody ever touch that dummy again, will you.

[Uncle]

You would drag him to the ground.

[Joe]

You got to come through me to touch the dummy. You could do whatever you want to do. You can shake and do whatever you want. You just got. I just can't let you touch that dummy because the dummy is the running back.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Uncle]

You was doing security.

[Joe]

And then he got mad because what I did, he. He shouldn't have touched the dummy because I had done gave up. And so we went to run on one drill. I beat him. And the. You know what I used to hurt Ocho? When somebody clicked the back of your heel and it tied you up and you fall.

[Uncle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

He did that. It's on purpose.

[Ocho]

You fail. You slapped him in the helmet.

[Joe]

Did I? I tried to slap his face mask off. No, you did it on purpose. I know you did. I don't play like that. If you beat me. You beat me. I'm mad enough to say, good job. We'll get an opportunity to do it again. But I don't play that cheap stuff.

[Ocho]

Right? Yeah. Hey, tripping. Me tripping because you got beat.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, it happens. You got to realize he a pro too. Yeah, Joe, he getting a check. Yeah, but don't, don't, don't do nothing dirty. Cause hey, I ain't gonna stop. They end up getting one of us gotta go.

[Ocho]

Oh, them some good days.

[Joe]

I agree with Troy, Ocho and Joe. We don't care. They don't call us their bodies like we once did. And you see a lot of these, Andrew. You see a lot of hamstrings, you see a lot of groins, you see a lot of calves, you see a lot of soft tissues because your body isn't used to that kind of torque under that kind of duress. You got to get your body used to it. It's just like anything. If you want to go out there in the sun, you just can't say, you know what, Ocho, man, I'm just gonna go out there in the sun. That sun don't play that dream. But we. I was used to that. I worked outside my. I've never had an inside job. Until I retired from league, all my jobs required me to be my have my black ass outside in the sun, in the cold, in the rain. It didn't matter. So I was used to. To conditions and elements. You ain't used to it. And say, you know what? Yeah. I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna practice. It's gonna be 100 degrees. What? And when we. The high school. Oho, y' all had two a days in high school.

[Ocho]

Yes, yes.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Two days. I couldn't miss no work because you know it. I wasn't on those. I have no salary, Joe. You didn't show up to work, you didn't get paid. I told him, I said, hey, y' all want me to play? Y' all need to have practice before I got to go to work. I got to be to work at 7 o'. Clock. Guess what time we got practice? 5:15 or Shannon Sharp ain't coming. Cause Mayor Porter ain't finna have me out here practicing and. And missed. And missed this 16 work.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

No sir.

[Ocho]

No sir.

[Joe]

So you got a choice. We can practice at 5:15. Hey, I get you a good. Get you a good hour and a half and I get to work at 7 or Shannon Sharp ain't coming. It's really that simple. I see y' all come when the season started. Man, why we gotta practice? Why we gotta practice at 5:15? Cause I'm him and you not. That's why.

[Uncle]

Straight up. Straight up. Yeah.

[Joe]

But there were the days, Ocho, that was like, shh.

[Ocho]

Hey.

[Joe]

I mean, Ocho, think about it. You go to practice and then go to work.

[Uncle]

Yeah, that's. That's at a young age like that lunch.

[Joe]

Then you go back to work and then you got practice that evening.

[Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe]

Man, please. The Eagles are holding off trading AJ Brown for now, according to that Diana Rossini, who reported that the Eagles had entertained serious conversations about dealing Brown with the Rams and the Patriots. If a trade were to happen, it would likely heat up closer to June 1st. Reported Racini Ocho. Joe, can you see AJ and Puka and Devonte on the same team?

[Uncle]

AJ Puka and Devonte.

[Joe]

Where they getting all this damn money from?

[Ocho]

I don't think that's possible. I don't think that. I don't think that's possible.

[Uncle]

And somebody had to take a cut, wouldn't it Ocho?

[Ocho]

I mean, they probably let Devonte Adams go. I. I saw some. I saw some. Some news earlier about Devonte Adams maybe possibly traded. I mean, I'm assuming probably trading him. Probably. Maybe to Philly. No, probably. Maybe to Philly.

[Uncle]

Damn.

[Ocho]

A.J. brown going to. To the Rams. I thought. I. I thought something would have happened where I thought a scenario would have happened until the. The Patriots got Romeo Dobbs where AJ Brown would have been in New England. You know, with. With Drake May.

[Joe]

With Romeo. He been there instead of Romeo.

[Ocho]

With Coach instead of Romeo. Yeah, I thought it would remember Babel, but obviously that didn't happen. Is there a scenario where that it could still happen? Maybe it's just not likely because they would have to give. Give up someone else as far as conversation goes. But I don't know.

[Uncle]

Hey, what is it? What the Eagles want? They want two first, A.J.

[Joe]

now the Rams got. Got two first, Ocho, because remember, they got Atlanta's first. The question is do they want. They probably want Atlanta's first and not the Rams first? Because the Rams first is a little further down. So they're probably. Probably what the hold up was. If I. If I'm having to guess and I'm just speculating here, chat is that they wanted the Falcons, which is I think a top 15. What where the falcons pick. I think it's top 15. Ocho and Joe. But the Rams are on later down because remember, they got to the they got to the. The championship game, so their pick is probably 30, 29, 30.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And it's like, nah, we want a top 15 pick. If. If I had to guess, yeah, 13th pick from the Falcons. See, I knew it was. I knew it was top 15, and I think that's probably what the e. That's probably because if they were like, okay, they're still entertaining and they've made it, and from what I've been reading is that they're standing firm on a first round pick. I'm thinking they want that first round pick to be as high as possible.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

They gonna get it. They definitely gonna get it. I. I think if. If it happens. If AJ Happens to go to the Rams in any scenario, any case, I think Devonte Adams goes to the Eagles. That. That'd be.

[Joe]

Well, you know what? They had a first. They got the Rams. Remember, they traded the first for McDuffie, so now they got one first, which is the Falcons first.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So I guess they're gonna look and see, like, okay, do we really. Do we really want to give up the 13th pick of the draft? And maybe. Maybe as you get later and later, AJ AJ Ain't gonna be happy. Y' all been dangling me. I heard y' all been dangling me around out here like Red did over that building. My office Hours are between 9 and 5.

[Ocho]

Well, listen, any. Any. Anytime there's smoke, there's fire for sure. Anytime there's more. If. If certain people report things, I mean, there's a chance, you know, you. You gonna be gone most of the time. It. They. It, it. It. It don't. It don't come out of nowhere.

[Joe]

I'm not so sure, and I don't know would be disappointed with that. Ocho, do you.

[Ocho]

No, no, absolutely.

[Uncle]

You don't think he'd be disappointed? Yeah.

[Ocho]

This is what he wants. Obviously, he wouldn't come out and say it.

[Joe]

What's.

[Uncle]

What's the chances that he's. That he stays with the Eagles, though

[Joe]

it looked like it's good, But. But I don't. See, my thing is, I don't understand, like, what the Cowboys did with Pick. I mean, the Pittsburgh Steelers did with Pig. Why would you trade him after the draft? I won't. I won't. Well, I guess you. The pick is the pick. But I'm thinking the later it gets, the more likely it is that he stays with the Eagles.

[Uncle]

Right.

[Joe]

Now, look, the draft is a month away. It's A lot can happen.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

The Pig. Somebody on the board that we really like and ain't nobody we can get this guy. We'll see what we'll, we'll see what happens. But I I can see a scenario. I don't think he's going to be totally disappointed if they were to if they were to if they were to move on from him as long as he goes to the he definitely not if he goes to the Rams or the Patriots because he's going to a He's going to two teams that throw the ball and got good quarterbacks.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Damn sure won't be disappointed. Go to the rams with Sean McVeigh calling plays.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It is Stock up Savings time now through March 31st. Spring in for store wide deals and earn four times the points. Look for in store tags to earn on eligible items from Goldfish, Keebler, Doritos, all M&M's, Drumstick, Outshine and Kellogg's. Then cl click the offer in the app for automatic event long savings. Stack up those rewards to save even more. Enjoy Savings on top of savings when you shop in store or online for easy drive up and go, pick up or delivery restrictions apply. See website for full terms and conditions.

[Joe]

You know how it's never really about where you're going.

[Public Investing Representative]

It's about who you're going with.

[Joe]

The right people can turn any drive into a great memory. That's something Toyota really believes. They design vehicles around real life and real people.

[Uncle]

People.

[Public Investing Representative]

The ones who make plans happen and

[Joe]

bring everyone together inside.

[Public Investing Representative]

Everything's built with passengers in mind. Comfortable seating, smart layouts and space that actually works so everyone can relax and enjoy the ride. There's room for the people, room for the stuff, and room for the moments

[Ryan Seacrest]

that happen along the way.

[Joe]

Because when people are the destination, your ride is important.

[Public Investing Representative]

Learn [e-mail] and find the vehicle that fits your people.

[Joe]

Everyone deserves to be connected.

[Public Investing Representative]

That's why T Mobile and US Cellular are joining forces.

[Joe]

Switch to T Mobile and save up to 20% versus Verizon by getting built in benefits they leave out. Check the math@t mobile.com switch and now T Mobile is in US cellular stores.

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Representative]

Savings versus Comparable Verizon plans plus the

[Joe]

cost of optional benefits. Plan features and Texas and fees vary. Savings with three plus lines include third line free via monthly bill credits. Credit stop if you cancel any lines.

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Representative]

Qualifying credit required.

[Lenovo Pro Representative]

Pro drivers live for race day, but for small business owners, every day is race day. That's why going pro with Lenovo Pro matters. One on one advice IT solutions and customized hardware powered by Intel Core Ultra processors. Keep your business on the right track. Business goes pro with Lenovo Pro. Sign up for [e-mail] Pro Lenovo Lenovo

[Orderly Meds Representative]

at CVS, it matters that we're not just in your community, but that we're part of it. It matters that we're here for you when need us, day or night, and we want everyone to feel welcomed and rewarded. It matters that CVS is here to fill your prescriptions and here to fill your craving for a tasty and, yeah, healthy snack. At cvs, we're proud to serve your community because we believe where you get your medicine matters. So Visit [e-mail] or just come by our store. We can't wait to meet you. Store hours vary by location.