Nightcap Hour 2: Chris Finch calls ref Tony Brothers 'completely unprofessional' + Steve Kerr is BACK with WARRIORS + WNBA Opening WEEKEND

Summary

Club Shay Shay: "Nightcap Hour 2" (May 10, 2026)

Host: Shannon Sharpe ("Joe"), with Ocho and Joe B

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay’s "Nightcap Hour 2" brings sports legends and personalities together for an unscripted, humorous, and insightful discussion on key stories in basketball. The conversation centers around Chris Finch criticizing NBA referee Tony Brothers, Steve Kerr’s contract extension with the Golden State Warriors, the future of that dynasty, and a recap of WNBA Opening Weekend, including standout performances and the league’s evolving culture. The hosts banter with classic locker-room energy, offering firsthand experiences, predictions, and side stories.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Chris Finch vs. Tony Brothers: Ref Controversy

• Minnesota Timberwolves coach Chris Finch called referee Tony Brothers “completely unprofessional” after a heated playoff moment. The hosts quickly pivot into their own experiences with Tony Brothers and NBA officiating.
  • Ocho: "When I'm playing in Utah…he missed the call on me one time and…I said something to him and that man ready to fight me, bro. On the court…he ain't taking no stuff from nobody, bro…that's why he's respected around the league." [04:00]
  • Joe: They reflect on how rare it is for refs to show personality and agree that a bit of human emotion isn't all bad: "It's good to see a ref show a little personal…they always robots." [06:05]
  • Joe B: Highlights the downside of constant complaining by players: "At the end of the day, in basketball, foul's gonna get missed…play through that contact." [07:02]

2. Social Media, Calls, and Playoff Games

• The hosts dissect missed calls and complain about refereeing consistency, especially in high-stakes games (ex: Lakers playoff games).
• Joe: "You see what happened when you huddle up with the refs at the end of the game…you complain about stuff, you think they're gonna give you calls the next game? Nah." [07:02]
• Ocho: "I'm sick of seeing dudes whining and complaining every damn other play, man." [07:13]
• They contrast this with the NFL’s officiating and communication, emphasizing that constant griping can hurt a team’s defensive effort.

3. NBA Roster Moves, Draft, and Paydays

• The group crisscrosses topics — player free agency, pending contract extensions, and the Oklahoma City Thunder lottery situation.
  • They speculate on possible massive player moves involving stars like Donovan Mitchell and whether OKC could make a bold move with lottery picks. [15:00]
  • Talks on team cultures, chemistry, and how bringing in a superstar like Giannis could "mess everything up." [15:48]
  • "You gotta understand the culture…if you go get Giannis…you gotta understand the brotherhood, the chemistry they have." – Ocho [15:48]

4. Knicks vs. 76ers – Playoff Analysis

• The Knicks’ big win without a full roster, Jalen Brunson’s leadership, and Philly’s struggles anchor this segment.
  • Joe B: Calls out Ocho and Joe for doubting the Knicks: "Y'all disrespected the Knicks…who is going to stop Brunson? Big body Brunson at that." [18:33]
  • Ocho: Criticizes the 76ers' stagnation when Embiid monopolizes the offense: "I mean, every trip down the damn court, man…we can't throw you the ball, bro…no continuity with guys…that ball don't hop no more." [23:13]
  • Discusses Tyrese Maxey needing to be more aggressive, and that Philly may soon need serious roster decisions.

5. Jalen Brunson’s Future & NBA Contracts

• Detailed breakdown of Brunson's contract situation — current deal, potential future extensions, and the challenges of rewarding aging stars.
  • "Would you give a 32-year-old 323 (million) for 4-5 years?" – Joe [30:01]
  • Ocho: "You hit 31, 32 in basketball, they consider you a damn dinosaur." [30:29]
  • A discussion on athletes taking less than the max for team flexibility, and impact of endorsements, highlights NBA financial strategies.

6. Warriors: Steve Kerr Extension, The End of an Era?

• Steve Kerr’s two-year deal, the future of Steph, Draymond, and the franchise’s hopes of another title run are dissected.
  • Ocho: "Man, I don't know fellas…I don't really know how they really feel about Draymond…he's a huge part of what they done, but…how the coaches really feel…front office really feel about him?" [35:51]
  • Joe: Questions Draymond’s value to other teams: "He's great there for them in that system, but to take him somewhere else…what you gonna ask him to do?" [36:11]
  • They rule out LeBron James coming to Golden State as unlikely, noting the difficulty and cost of such moves and the rising age of NBA stars: "Al Horford is 39…Steph’s gonna be 38, 39…that’s gonna be an old-ass team." [39:40]
  • Reflection on how the dynasty’s “window is closed,” and Curry’s future is up to him.

7. WNBA Opening Weekend & Angel Reese's Debut

• Recap and praise for Angel Reese’s first Dream game: 11 pts, 14 rebounds, game-sealing block, 50th career double-double in just 65 games. [53:19]
  • Ocho: Admits he turned the game off before Reese’s comeback: "I stopped watching the game. Boy, they…were getting drugged. I said, damn…" [53:44]
  • Joe: Marvels at the league’s fashion evolution: "Y’all going to a WNB game or the club?" [55:17]
  • Hosts appreciate how the pre-game fashion culture—once reserved for the NBA/NFL—has completely taken root in the WNBA as a branding tool and league statement: "It’s a whole spectacle…and I ain't gonna lie, I'm here for it…straight Runway action." – Ocho [56:06]

8. Fashion, Branding, and Locker Room Banter

• Spirited, playful exchange about dressing for game day—old school vs. the new era—and who would play what role in a pickup basketball game.
  • Joe B: "Everybody be looking like the goddamn mannequin. Joke." [58:24]
  • Ocho: "Fashion's not how much something costs…it's about putting the pieces together. Can you put pieces together?" [58:39]
  • Riffing on personality-to-player comps: Ocho as Mike Evans, Joe B as Jaden Vanderbilt (jokingly), and discussions about playing roles and team chemistry.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Tony Brothers:
  “He ain't taking no stuff from nobody, bro…that's why he's respected around the league.” – Ocho [04:00]
• On Player Complaints:
  "I'm sick of seeing dudes whining and complaining every damn other play, man." – Ocho [07:13]
• On Team Chemistry vs. Talent:
  “You gotta understand the culture…if you go get Giannis…you gotta understand the brotherhood, the chemistry they have.” – Ocho [15:48]
• On Aging Stars:
  “Would you give a 32-year-old 323 for 5 years?…they consider you a damn dinosaur.” – Joe/Ocho [30:01, 30:29]
• On WNBA Fashion:
  “It’s a whole spectacle…and I ain't gonna lie, I'm here for it…straight Runway action.” – Ocho [56:06]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Tony Brothers/Finch Incident: [03:34 - 06:18]
• Missed Calls & Complaints: [07:02 - 08:58]
• Team Building/Trade Speculation (Mitchell, OKC, Giannis): [14:18 - 16:39]
• Knicks-76ers Playoff Reaction: [17:29 - 25:19]
• Jalen Brunson Contract Chat: [27:44 - 31:34]
• Steve Kerr Extension/Warriors’ Future: [35:28 - 45:47]
• WNBA Angel Reese/Game Recap & Fashion: [53:19 - 56:45]
• Locker Room Banter/Fashion Talk: [56:45 - End]

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Summary

This episode gives listeners a courtside seat to candid, unfiltered sports talk ranging from ref beefs and superstar contract dilemmas to the state of iconic franchises and the spectacle of modern athlete branding. Whether riffing on the quirks of NBA officiating, dissecting roster-building strategies, or celebrating the cultural rise of the WNBA, Shannon and his crew deliver insightful, energetic, and frequently hilarious conversation for hoops fans and casual listeners alike.

Transcript

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[Joe]

Chris Finch calls out Tony Brothers. Oh, talking about Tony Brothers. F says, I wanted a timeout. I said I want my three seconds back. He clearly heard me. He lost it. Then I went ask him where the ball was going to be taken in and he was screaming at me for that. So I'm it's so completely unprofessional by him. Joe, you talked about Tony Brothers the other night. You like Tony.

[Ocho]

Don't I tell y'? All, Hey, I told y'. All. That's one referee I know for sure. He ain't taking no okay, Ojo. When I'm playing in Utah and we playing against the Clippers, we was a 5 seed, they was a 4C, we in the playoffs. I don't never complain about cars, man. He missed the call on me one time and I said something to him and that man ready to fight me, bro. On the court, hear me? I'm like, damn, bro. Hey, look, you see how you ran at that coach from.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

I told y', all, man, hey, he ain't taking no stuff from nobody, bro. He don't. Hey, that's. That's why he's respected around the league.

[Joe]

Yeah. He's like, hold on, hold on now, hold on. Y. You. You getting out of hand with this, bro. You getting out of hand. I don't know what you were thinking, what you. What you. What you thought I was about? Like Rick J. Said to the little lady in the back, I don't know who you thought I was, but I. Rick James. Hey, but the lady told the story. Did y' all hear the lady tell the story about. She. The lady thought that was lit. Rick.

[Joe B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

He went out there.

[Joe]

I don't know who you thought I was, but I. Rick James.

[Joe B]

I seen that.

[Ocho]

I seen that when he came out

[Joe]

of gate, because I wonder why he. I wonder why he's.

[Joe B]

Hey, hey. He was mad. He was mad, bro. He was mad. That was. That was a good story.

[Joe]

If you were. If you were 80s, baby. You know anything about the 80s, you already know.

[Ocho]

Rick James was like, oh, yeah. Yes.

[Joe]

It wasn't. It wasn't very many people bigger than Rick James, and that was Tony Brothers. Say, I'm Chris Rich. I don't know who you thought I was, but I'm Tony Brothers.

[Ocho]

I told y'.

[Joe]

All. So what do you think? What do you think will happen? You think they're gonna. They're gonna reprimand him? They're gonna say anything?

[Ocho]

They may have said something, but they ain't. It ain't gonna be no repercussions behind it. I don't really see no big deal. I mean, yeah, he was a bit demonstrative, but hell did not go down, so.

[Joe B]

Hey. Hey, listen. It's good to see a ref show a little personal. All I'm saying, man, it's good to see us. They always robots. They always. They always robots all the time. So it's good to see someone, you know, show they still human, too.

[Ocho]

Fish won't, you know, jump. I bet you won't jump at Tony Brothers. No. Damn. Mom,

[Joe]

The Capers and Ed Malloy. I don't know the other referee, but they throw some bull job tonight, though, for the Lakers game. LeBron can't. LeBron can't get that air. One call. Like when every. When the people jump when he come up in the air and they should have been shooting, he came back on

[Ocho]

the same throne now. I agree.

[Joe]

But, hey, he's like. He said, shay get it? He said, AR had one, and they end up calling an offensive file. Offensive foul on Rui. So he went from.

[Ocho]

We.

[Joe]

They went from shooting three to get a file.

[Joe B]

You see what happened when you had. When you huddle up with the refs at the end of the game. And you complaining. You complain about stuff. You think they're gonna give you calls the next game? Nah, y'. All. Y' all gonna have to play through that contact.

[Ocho]

And I'm. I ain't gonna lie to you. I'm sick of seeing dudes whining and complaining every damn other play, man.

[Joe B]

Hey, Flail, at the end of the

[Ocho]

day, in basketball, it's a little different. Hey, it's. Foul's gonna get missed from time to time. That's just part of it, bro.

[Joe]

You gotta. Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

Cause look, when you don't play through a hill, you're giving up points on the other end.

[Joe B]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Cause you back there complaining to the official. You looking at the official, he's like, I ain't got the ball. You need to be worried about him. They got the ball ahead of laying

[Ocho]

the damn ball up.

[Joe]

And just like. Like you said, Joe, you out there Lally gagging. And what about when you turn it over? And so now you mad about the call, you turn the ball over, you give up a thing, and you still looking at the referee ball. I'm glad it ain't like that in the NFL, because, look, I bring it to his teacher, I say, yeah, he held me on that one. Yeah. All right, all right, all right, all right. 84. We missed it. Hey, we. We'll make sure we look, catch it next time. Got me a touchdown on that in the playoff game. Championship game to his attention, second down, and say, hey, Mr. Ralph. He spit me.

[Ocho]

He.

[Joe]

He held me. He heard me tell the back judge that he was right there, could have made the play. He pulled his hands back. I called it. Went to the house against the Raiders on AFC Championship game 96 charter, go watch it. You can see he's about to get. But he heard what I had told officials. Yeah, he pulled his hands back. By the time. Hey, by the time he thought about what he had done.

[Ocho]

Hey, you hitting him when you hit him with that there you were hitting that head, look,

[Joe]

Making sure ain't nobody coming from the side. Don't cover for the blind spot. But I was gone.

[Joe B]

Yeah. Out of there.

[Ocho]

But.

[Joe]

Yeah, but Tony brother, too. I was like, well, damn, Tony. I hope he had the game on Monday. I was like, tony, what you was doing.

[Joe B]

Hey, hey, don't waste your money. I'm telling you now, go ahead.

[Joe]

It's too late.

[Joe B]

Oh, you. Did

[Ocho]

they finally get one with you in the house?

[Joe]

I gotta get them chicken tenders.

[Joe B]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, don't do that, man. Don't don't, don't.

[Ocho]

I'm trying to give hope. Cause he think he bad luck.

[Joe B]

Hey, that. That ain't hope. That. That's false hope. Don't do that, Joe. That's like. That's like your mama lied to you when you're a little kid to talk about Santa. Santa. Santa the one bought them goddamn gifts. He already get one.

[Joe]

What we did get? Hey, you remember I went to the game when they beat the Rockets.

[Joe B]

That was the Rockets. Y' all playing the Thunder.

[Ocho]

You, you ain't got no confidence when they playing. You say when you go against the Thunder, they get beat. Hey, maybe it's a close out game, man. You go back there, give them a little speech or something. Hey, fell, next year we got to come back.

[Joe]

We got the.

[Joe B]

Oh next year

[Joe]

bad the girl. They can't beat them next year. They need some wing defenders. They need somebody that can defend. It's like you see what Shay Shay score. But they got defenders for Shay. They got Lou. Dork. They got Wallace, they got Joe, they got Chant.

[Joe B]

Hey, the Lakers ain't constructed like that.

[Joe]

They stuck right now constructed like that. But look, I think the thing is that this. But they do got Mitchell. Mitchell. If Mitchell's a free agent, he gone.

[Ocho]

He gone. They can't pay him to keep him around.

[Joe]

Bucks.

[Ocho]

They probably give him a little something for him to stay around.

[Joe]

You want 50 million? You want 125?

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[Joe]

Phoenix, we're trying to get you a little something.

[Ocho]

Starting this different time.

[Joe]

Look, you take. Look, you gonna get dependent. Phoenix, try to get you a little something.

[Ocho]

You gotta understand. Yeah, they may be able to give him about 50, 60 for him to stay around and be on a championship contender team. Or you saying like he get 120 and go to Chicago and they getting a.

[Joe]

And be his team he wanted. He probably gonna go somewhere because think about it. They still got McCain.

[Ocho]

They got some good fly.

[Joe]

You still got Wallace, you still got Isaiah. Joe, you still got Caruso, you still got McCain. Even if you lose, they got some.

[Joe B]

Hold on.

[Ocho]

Okay, See, got some big things they gonna do because the lottery come out tomorrow and they gonna get a top four, top five pick. So now they can package that and go, okay, see, got a good problem over there. They got a good problem, boy. Because if they get a number three pick or.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, what I'm trying to think. Nah, that wouldn't be a good pick. Because I said, I tell you what we do. We'd be willing to give you Mitchell, but it'll mess up everything. Because if we give you Mitchell and our lottery pick, you give us Giannis, but he'll make. They don't need Giannis.

[Ocho]

Because if you go get Yanis and you just gonna bring Hardenstein off the bench, you got to.

[Joe]

You play.

[Ocho]

Check. Yeah.

[Joe]

Or you might package him and then you have Giannis, Chet Shay, J Dub. I don't think so. I wouldn't do it because you.

[Ocho]

You gotta understand the culture that they have, you know, the brotherhood that they have, the chemistry that they have. If you.

[Joe B]

That'll mess everything, man.

[Ocho]

Cause y' all is trying to get 30.

[Joe]

But what if they get the number one pick? If they get the bonza, somebody gone, two of those guards, they get the

[Ocho]

number one pick and they get aj. Yeah, somebody got.

[Joe]

Or.

[Ocho]

They might not want to rely on no rookie, though. I mean, if you get the number one pick, you probably. They probably keep it. But if they get a three or four pick, they're still gonna be a hell of a player. Good problem over there, man. Damn.

[Joe]

They might be willing to trickle, you know, Sam Preston, like draft picks. He had a Hundred.

[Ocho]

Damn, Sam. Pressing my hogs. We need a top pick. We need a top. We need a top four pick. Top four, top five pick. We good. I ain't saying we gotta have number one if we get the top four or five pick.

[Joe]

Boy, if y' all get number one, you be boy Joe B. Throw the party over there.

[Ocho]

We gonna show out on Nightcap. They get the number one.

[Joe]

What you already know? They take it to the way you

[Ocho]

pair him and JJ Together. Jalen. Yeah.

[Joe]

You talking about what you gonna do with Dyson Daniels? You gonna bring him off the bench? We're probably gonna.

[Ocho]

I don't really want to get into the conversation. I'll be. I'll be at the arena, but, you know. Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe]

Steve Kerr has agreed to a two year contract to return to the Warriors. What's up?

[Joe B]

We ain't talk about the Knicks.

[Ocho]

Oh, man, he been waiting.

[Joe B]

Yeah, yeah, I've been waiting on this. Y'. All. Y' all trying to skip. Don't skip.

[Joe]

Let's get.

[Joe B]

Let's get. Let's get on these next.

[Joe]

Okay, let's. Let's pull up the dicks.

[Joe B]

Yeah, pull them up. I. I can't believe y' all tried to skip that game because both of y' all had Philly winning.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had Philly winning.

[Joe]

The New York Knicks.

[Joe B]

Yeah.

[Joe]

The New York Knicks won by 14.

[Joe B]

Yes.

[Joe]

Jalen Brunson 33 points. Mikhail Bridges had 23, Josh Hart had 12, and Landry Shammit came off the bench and made two or three three pointers. He gave you 15. Even though they were absent OJ, OG, Antonio, Ananova, it did not matter because it was more than enough.

[Ocho]

Hey, look, the. The Knicks. Brunson was awesome. Y' all know.

[Joe B]

Hold on. You talk about the same brushing that y' all say. Eskim was gonna have a good game against all as we go. Do we have to send the chair and. And stop him? Ain't that the one? Ain't y' all the same two that said where if OG Is out, Philly probably gonna win his game. Especially if it'd be. Yeah, that was. Y' all too, right, man, Listen, hold on. Ain't no listen.

[Joe]

I want.

[Joe B]

Listen. Y' all disrespected the Knicks, so I want you to be just as loud as you was when you. We talked about it the other night,

[Ocho]

but oo, this is Jekyll and Hyde I'm talking about with Philly when MB plays and look at maxi numbers, bro. I need him. I just need him more aggressive than this. He took shots I'm talking about.

[Joe]

It's too.

[Ocho]

It's too many points of the game where he just kind of. It's like he just out there and no man just drifts, you know what I mean? And it's a lot of antics going on out there. A lot of flailing, flopping, a lot of WWE with mb and there's a lot going on now. It's a lot going on to mess up the floor of the game. You know, like, damn. But you look at Brunson, you. You look at Hart, you look at Bridges, they have familiar territory. They went to Villanova, man. They. What can I say?

[Joe B]

I mean, but you knew that. You knew that before the Series started. You hear me? You knew that before. You picked Philly to win this game because OG Was hurting. He was out. You understood that when I told y' all before the Series started. Who is going to stop Brunson? Big body Brunson at that, y'. All. Hey, y' all was. Old Man Escum. He gonna.

[Joe]

He gonna.

[Joe B]

He gonna make it difficult. He gonna pick him up 94 goddamn feet and all this other garbage y' all were talking about. And what happened? Look what happened.

[Joe]

They ran his ass off. So many people.

[Joe B]

Hold on. Cat didn't even have a good game. Cat didn't have a good game.

[Joe]

We.

[Joe B]

We need Cat. We need Cat.

[Joe]

But you don't know. Cat didn't have a good game. Score. But he gave you 12 rebounds and 7 assists in only one time they've

[Ocho]

been playing through Cat at that high post. Meaning, like, for him, the ball. Yeah, he'd be getting a lot of dimes from that. That's how he had, what, two triple doubles against the Hulk? That part out, but I think he played hell of a defense on Embiid. I just think the back and forth, it's just a little too much for the game. Meaning for guys, for Philly. These are young guys who can't really get in rhythm. Look at Paul. Yeah, he couldn't get in no rhythm neither.

[Joe B]

It's just.

[Ocho]

I don't know, man. Philly got some decision they got to make, too, huh?

[Joe]

What decision they gotta make? You know, Joe told me they ain't got to make no decision.

[Joe B]

I. I ain't say that. Who said that?

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I. We was talking about. We talking about to sell this game, you talking about. But when he's available. Yeah, he got the beater. Know what you told me?

[Joe B]

Oh, no. I mean, he is, huh? I mean, he is when he's available, when he's not hurt. Not now. I know he slowed the game down the other night. Matter of fact, last night. I understand that. But let's not fool ourselves now. That ain't fool's goal. We know. We get with him, be with a help. Well, he's never healthy. A 70 embiid. You know what you get, okay?

[Joe]

You ain't winning no championship with no 77% of Embiid. So at this. At this rate right now, how they gonna get past the Knicks? How they gonna get past Detroit? How they gonna get past the Celtics?

[Joe B]

Hold on.

[Joe]

With a healthy Jason Tate.

[Joe B]

Listen, everything you just said was a hypothetical. How they gonna get past nobody? They're not getting past the Knicks. So let's. Let's start right there. Maybe. Hey, maybe he needs to change the scenery. Maybe he needs to change the scenery. Now, you take somebody like I'm being. You put him. You put him in the right situation. You put him in the right situation. Now we talking.

[Joe]

You just told me they don't need to trade this man, Joe.

[Joe B]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't say that. I just said what he's. What he can do when he's available. I didn't say whether they need to let him go or not. See, I don't. I don't.

[Joe]

I don't want you to about. They go trade him. You go trade that. You already said. I saw this man score 70 points.

[Joe B]

I was there live.

[Ocho]

What?

[Joe B]

I seen it with my own eyes, Joe. I couldn't believe you played two games

[Joe]

since you scored that 70 points. Oh, they play a different game. Maxi is up. Want to get up and down. Edge can. Want to get up and down. The middle is clogged when he's there. You can't get up and down. Yeah, guys can't slash to the basket. God, he's gonna stop the ball in the way. He get the ball. The ball ain't moving. He gonna get through. He gonna get about three or four dribbles and try to get close to the basket.

[Ocho]

When I'm watching sometimes, don't get me wrong, they need him at times, but you just need a healthy dose of it. You. I mean, every trip down the damn court, man. We can't throw you the ball, bro. I'm sorry. It just. It bogs the offense down to where there's no continuity with guys who've been playing together. And that ball don't. The ball don't hop no more. We ain't really getting great looks like, you know, it's just a big difference that I noticed.

[Joe]

Yeah, for sure. It is true.

[Joe B]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe]

Great Joe.

[Joe B]

Run them plays that. Get him about that goddamn paint. Get some movement. Hey, listen. Get some movement going offensively so we don't clog up the goddamn hole. Listen, this. This transition going down. You ain't part of the offense. Come on out here, let them boys run something else.

[Ocho]

He ain't gonna just be standing at the three. The thing is, if y' all running the pick and roll on the left side here, he gonna be on the right block over here, trying to find a way to inch his way in there. If you run a pick and roll with him, he gonna stop right there at the free throw line or at the top of the key. He gonna catch it, and he gonna run out about seven seconds on the clock just by holding jab and trying to figure out what he gonna do, you know what I mean? So it just takes the rhythm out of the guys, bro. That's the biggest thing I noticed. You know, guys, you really don't get a lot of cuts and easy baskets. A lot of their baskets are tough baskets. Playing against this Knicks team, it shouldn't be that way here. They only scored 94 points, bro. They at home. Come on, man.

[Joe]

So what you. What you recommend, Joe? How. How does the Sixers extend this series? Because if they don't win tomorrow, there is no. There is no Monday.

[Joe B]

Well, I can tell you. Yeah, I can tell you there is no.

[Joe]

There is no Tuesday game.

[Joe B]

Ain't gonna be no. Ain't gonna be no Tuesday game. Ain't gonna be no Monday. Let's start there. Now, Joe, you can come up with a scenario or hypothetical that. That the 76ers can do the hope they win. But I can tell you that ain't gonna happen. But go ahead.

[Ocho]

It's gonna be hard for Philly to win, because when you think about it, they got such a huge uphill climb down 30 from the Knicks. I'm gonna take the rest, Uncle Ocho. Meaning I want to go and get these boys out of here, man. You know, we know OG hurt. Let's see if we can get us some time off. Because this Detroit Series, if Cleveland wins another game here, you know, this could potentially be a seven game series. So if I'm New York, I'm thinking, man, we got to get these boys out of here. And look, the Knicks fans still travel here. Philly ain't far from New York. Ain't number to hopping. Hell, no.

[Joe B]

Down the street so this damn.

[Ocho]

Like a home game to them. Oh, they.

[Joe B]

Hey, listen, they making it a home game?

[Joe]

Yeah. No, but then. No, look, Bronson Brunson is doing what Brunson does. And if you don't. Hey, and he's a guy that can struggle because we saw him in game two, Joe, he struggled. They did an unbelievable job. But when they absolutely had to have it, Brunson stepped up. And that's what he's done his entire career. When he's been with the Knicks, he's been unbelievable. We saw that when he was at the Mavericks and Luca was out. That's when you saw like, oh, this kid could lead his own team. They messed up by not extending him the year before. You let him get the free agency and the little 55, 60 million who had in the New York in that market is going to give him 100.

[Ocho]

I think he took a pay cut. He took a pay cut too, didn't it? Oh, for them to be able to sign all the mother guys.

[Joe]

Yeah. To get Cat and get Mikhail Bridges and all the og. Yeah.

[Joe B]

So. Hey, hey, Joe, when he back up?

[Ocho]

When he back up. Yeah,

[Joe]

you know, hey, you know, we work them. You know, we work the numbers a little bit, Joe, you know what I'm saying?

[Ocho]

Hold on. When you say he back up,

[Joe]

maybe after this season, because this is his third year there.

[Ocho]

But I thought he ain't just resigned. He ain't just signed another deal. I thought he just signed another deal.

[Joe]

I'm think so. Ash, when is Bronson back up? We'll see. But he definitely.

[Joe B]

He gonna get that max, Joe, I.

[Ocho]

I don't think he'll. I don't think he gonna take the max. Meaning Max for him could be close to 300, 250, 300. I don't think he'll take it just because he know if he take that, then they gonna have to get rid of some of these dudes.

[Joe]

Dang right.

[Ocho]

What you'll do, Ocho, they come here,

[Joe B]

they say to be able to keep all. To be able to keep.

[Ocho]

All I'm saying, we got three. We got 315 million to give you.

[Joe]

But if we.

[Ocho]

You're probably gonna have to get rid of two of your partners.

[Joe B]

I tell you what, you know what? I'm not gonna have to take all that because I'm gonna make up. I'm gonna make up for the endorsements anyway.

[Ocho]

Stay on tv.

[Joe B]

Yeah, I'm making up for it and do it. Hey, hold on. I'm playing in New York.

[Ocho]

What you gonna do? Huh? Mr. Shar,

[Joe]

He signed a four year 156 million dollar extension in July 24, which runs through 2829. That includes an option for the final year by signing early rather than waiting in Frenchy. He accepted significantly less than his maximum value.

[Joe B]

Hey, hey. Would you say what you gonna tell him up?

[Joe]

Y' all staying. So he'll be eligible for a three play this deal out. He'll be eligible for a four year 323 million in 28 or five year 418 in 2029.

[Ocho]

Hold on. How old is he right now? How old is Brunson right now?

[Joe]

Let me see. He gotta be, what is Bronson? 30?

[Joe B]

29.

[Joe]

29.

[Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

I don't know, Joe. You giving a, you giving a 32 year old 323 for 5 years. 4 years. The next year will be 5 years, he'll be 33. 418.

[Ocho]

I think he'll probably, I think they'll, they'll definitely give him a three at a crazy number. But four, that's gonna be tough. Yeah. You know, when you get up in age, man, you hit, you hit 31, 32 in basketball, they consider you a damn dinosaur. I don't know how they feel about football.

[Joe]

Always 30 in the NFL.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you get about 32 in the NBA, bro, they started looking for your damn backup. Real.

[Joe]

I can see that he does. He definitely after, after taking this, this, this extension, taking that, this. 156 for 4, right? Yeah. Y' all need to break me off. I bet I, I, at worst case. You know what, Joe? I ain't gonna wait. Don't worry about it. Cause I understand. What can I do with 323 that I can only do with 418? I can't run the risk. The risk, it's, I'll be a year older and then an injury and you know, I'm never getting that. I'm going to, I'm going to take this 323. I'll make this work for me. I'll make it. I'll make this 320.

[Ocho]

Seriously?

[Joe]

Yeah. 80 million. 80 million a year. Plus you in New York Getting endorsements, another 15, 20 application.

[Ocho]

You just said 80 million a year. That's crazy.

[Joe]

Is it? Yeah.

[Joe B]

Hey, that, that's light, Joe.

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[Joe]

Steve Kerr has agreed to a two year contract to return as head coach of the Warriors. The deal keeps Kerr as the highest paid in the NBA annually. He made at least 17 and a half million the last season. Joe, does Kirk coming back to the warriors at least two more seasons? Does that keep the band together? Does that keep Kerr, Steph and Draymond together for at least two more years?

[Ocho]

Man, I don't know fellas. I don't really know how they really feel about Draymond. If y' all just want me to be 100, I. I know he's a huge part of what they done, the emotional leader that we always talk about. But I wonder how the coaches really feel about Draymond, how the front office really feel about him. You know what I mean?

[Joe]

Yeah. The question is, the better question is that how do other teams feel? Do they feel he could, he will be as valuable to the, the their team as he was to the Warriors. Because I don't see, I mean I ain't really heard people call him like hey man, y' all trying to get up off Draymond because we love to have it. Do you see calls like that happening. I don't. Now, I'm not saying that he's. I'm saying he's great there for them in that system, but to take him somewhere else and ask him, what are you going to ask him to do? He's not a score. He's a. He still can do. He still can defend. He's. He's an okay rebounder. He can run your offense, but he don't have the shoe. He ain't got Steph, and he doesn't have Clay. So how valuable is he to another team as he was or is to the. The war?

[Ocho]

I don't know. Because ain't nobody got no damn Steph Curry. And I just think that the chemistry that Draymond and Steph has, you know, nobody in the league has that, bro. And so, no, I mean, it's hard for me to see him playing somewhere else, Uncle Ocho, considering everything that he's done in Golden State, but hella got rid of Clay. I just think the one person who they ain't gonna ever get rid of is Stefan Kirk. I don't think they ever gonna get rid of him.

[Joe B]

Steph. Steph gonna get frustrated. He gonna get frustrated. Because if you look at it the way the way the team is built, the way the team is constructed, they're not constructed to win. So Steph out there just doing, you know, stat padding, you know, you don't have a chance of winning another ring. I know. You already got, what, four. We got four rings already, huh? I think.

[Joe]

Correct.

[Ocho]

I think they do got to make some changes, though. Okay, Ocho. I mean, I don't know what changes they could really make or if they can even go out and get any big time free agents, but, I mean, hell, you was fighting to get in the play in. Ain't no way. You mean to tell me you bringing Steve Kirk back and y' all coming back with this same team?

[Joe]

No, No, I don't see that I have a chance. You're in the play, and you've been in the play in the last three years.

[Joe B]

Hey, what, Little Drake. What if Draymond does come back? Obviously, I think LeBron is gone. Do you see any scenario where LeBron ends up in Golden State next year or that far fetched?

[Ocho]

I don't see that.

[Joe]

Look, look, the. The. The. The warriors wanted Draymond. I just don't know if I'm. Excuse me. The warriors wanted LeBron, but I don't know if that's something that he was actively searching for. The question is, look, I. I don't. At the end of the day, what does LeBron want? I don't know how many 50 million, 60 million dollar contracts gonna be out there, Joe? I just Be honest. Honest. Not for. I understand he's a draw, but I don't know if I can. If I can bust my roster up, bring him on at that number. And it. Because I'm trying to win a chat. At the end of the day, I'm trying to win a championship. That's what he wants.

[Joe B]

Hold on. You're trying to win a championship, but, you know, closer to the championship with the roster you got now, and there's really nobody you can bring in that can get you closer to that championship.

[Joe]

Were you talking about in the Lakers?

[Joe B]

I'm talking about over there. In, in. In.

[Joe]

In the Bay, in Golden State.

[Joe B]

Yeah.

[Joe]

No, I just don't see it. I mean, you got Al Horford over there, who's, who's serviceable, but Al gotta be. Al got to be pushing for.

[Ocho]

He's about 40. About 40. Probably about five years younger than me.

[Joe]

So Al's 40. I mean, Steph's gonna be what, 38, 38, 39.

[Ocho]

They're gonna be an old ass team, boy.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe B]

Joe, you at.

[Joe]

Joe. At some point in time, Joe and Ocho, man, look, that's what the Rockets. Oh, you had Scotty Pippen, you had Elijah one, you had. I don't know if Clyde was still there. I think Clyde might have played one, I'm not sure. And Barkley, they were way, way past their prime.

[Joe B]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I mean, what do I hope that LeBron will be 42. Al Horford's 40 staff would be 38. Draymond will be, what, 36? 37. I just don't know what, what we expect to do.

[Ocho]

Do what with that? Yeah. Ojo be 45 in June. Late June.

[Joe B]

Hey, okay, Joe. Okay.

[Joe]

45. Okay, okay, okay.

[Ocho]

You know what I mean?

[Joe B]

Okay. I mean, now you, you ain't. You ain't getting up there because. Listen, I'm 58, Joe. I still look like I'm 23. So you doing. Are you doing something right?

[Ocho]

No spring chicken no more. So I used. I used to be good. I used to be real.

[Joe B]

Hey, I'm glad, you know, you ain't no spring chicken.

[Ocho]

What?

[Joe B]

Huh? I'm gonna show you. You ain't either.

[Joe]

Yeah. Draymond just turned 36.

[Joe B]

Did he.

[Joe]

He turned. He turned 36 in March.

[Ocho]

Yeah. It's gonna be interesting.

[Joe]

What.

[Ocho]

What the Golden State, what the warriors gonna do. I mean, they just. They brought Kurt back, and I'm sure, you know, he got some changes he want to make.

[Joe]

Steph is 38. He gonna be 39. He gonna be 39 next year.

[Joe B]

Hey, he's special. He's special, though. He. He don't really count.

[Ocho]

Well, he missed a lot of time this year, too, though.

[Joe B]

Yeah, he would hurt. What was wrong with him? Joey hurt his knee.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he hurt his knee.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Ah.

[Joe]

And guess what? Injury start coming with greater regularity.

[Joe B]

Hey, Steph, if you need a nutritionist, holla at your boy. I get you, right?

[Joe]

Al Horford is 39.

[Joe B]

A boy.

[Joe]

As a matter of fact, he'll be 40 his birthday in June.

[Joe B]

And the boys, oh, boy.

[Joe]

I don't really know how far a 42 year old, a 40 year old, a 38. A 38 year old.

[Ocho]

I.

[Joe]

39, 30. I don't know how far they're gonna take you, Joe.

[Ocho]

I don't either.

[Joe]

I just don't.

[Joe B]

Hey, hey, they might be being slick, man. You know, when them lottery. When them lottery balls come up, I can see. I can see it play out. Let me see out the blue. You know you got all these old, old players, right? But you know what?

[Joe]

Hell, Steph just turned 30.

[Joe B]

We know something under the table, we gonna slide your new two year, right? And we're gonna make sure you get this lottery pick.

[Joe]

Hey, all I know is you fool around like David Stern. Hey, I asked the Timberwolves about trying to do contracts under the table. What does it do to you?

[Ocho]

Sit your ass way back.

[Joe]

Avoided the contract, Took the next three. Took the next three that you couldn't have a first round pick and blew it up.

[Joe B]

Hey, I'm. Listen, I'm just doing. I'm just throwing scenarios out there that could be possible. Oh, yeah, it's, you know, I mean, listen, it's possible.

[Joe]

You got a team and then you got Jim. I mean, Jimmy Butler's still there, but Jimmy Butler's coming off an ACL injury.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's gonna be tough, bro. They had a nice squad this year.

[Joe B]

Now see, if it happened, they don't. Don't remember who said it first.

[Ocho]

What's that?

[Joe B]

Didn't boy get an early pick early that, that lottery pick for some reason that, that little ping pong ball say warriors at the blue.

[Ocho]

I don't know about that, Ocho.

[Joe B]

I feel you.

[Joe]

I still don't know how much that's gonna help a mocho.

[Joe B]

They just need some young.

[Ocho]

They do need a big, and they. The bigs don't Come now they don't come from around the corner like they used to back in the day. It's hard to find a big now boy.

[Joe B]

Hey. Hey. Well, young bull from Purdue went.

[Joe]

Who's that eating.

[Joe B]

Yeah. Where he went?

[Joe]

Memphis. Okay.

[Joe B]

He played

[Ocho]

with John. They were getting money over there.

[Joe B]

Okay.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe B]

Trying to think about Biggs.

[Joe]

Yeah. Then they're big. So we'll. We'll see if they can. You know, they want to keep this thing together. I guess it's like because how many. I wonder how many years Steph got on his contract because that'll be. That's gonna be. That's gonna be very, very interesting.

[Ocho]

I agree.

[Joe]

He unrestricted fridge in the 27th. So he got this year one year 62 million. No, hold on. He's on the contract with Golden State through 26, 27. Signed a one year extension in August of 24. So he said to Earns. Yeah. So we got two years left. He got two years. So it could. There you go. It coincides with what the Steve Kerr contracts coincide with what? Steph Curry contract expiring. Draymond has this year on his contract a player option for 26, 27. Yeah, they probably so if that. That's. They constructed it like that for a reason. Yeah. I think they're like, okay, Steph will let them know what he wants to do and they'll do what they do. But I just don't see it. I. I just don't see Golden State being a serious threat anymore. The way it's too deep now.

[Joe B]

Hey, that window closed.

[Joe]

Minnesota, the spurs, the Nuggets. I just don't see it. I just don't.

[Joe B]

That window closed.

[Ocho]

That's why I think Curry. Curry gonna have to team up with somebody on.

[Joe B]

I just took. I told you.

[Joe]

Oh, somebody gonna have to come. I don't think he wants to go anywhere, Joe.

[Ocho]

I don't. Yeah, I probably. I wouldn't want to leave neither, but I just can't. I don't see LeBron going to Golden State. If I.

[Joe]

If, if.

[Joe B]

You know, Braun always wanted to play with Curry now.

[Ocho]

But here's the thing. If Braun just so happened to lead the Lakers, I think he coming somewhere out east. I don't know where, but I think he'd come somewhere out east so he can get the hell out of that Western Conference, that damn juggernaut out there.

[Joe B]

Well, what you think about LeBron coming down here with.

[Joe]

Put him on Detroit?

[Joe B]

Nah.

[Ocho]

What you mean now? Yeah, what you mean?

[Joe B]

What did my a. What do you think about LeBron coming back. Think about LeBron coming back to the

[Ocho]

Heat with Giannis, you can't rule out now. He might go back home. Let's say Cleveland don't get up out of here.

[Joe]

So what you gonna put? You. You gonna replace Harden with him?

[Ocho]

You gonna. You gonna put. They gonna all play together.

[Joe B]

You know, he ain't got to have the ball in his hand.

[Ocho]

Now, now, now, you know some numbers gonna.

[Joe]

But I think you want the ball in his hand.

[Joe B]

Hu.

[Joe]

Cause you want Donovan. You don't want. You know, Donovan like, hey, Donovan, do your thing off the ball.

[Ocho]

I'm just saying, man.

[Joe B]

Make that thing work, man. Set the pick for me, Joe.

[Ocho]

Nah, hell no. You setting the pick for me.

[Joe B]

The devil is alive. Why you crazy ass.

[Ocho]

You gotta set the picture, bro.

[Joe B]

Joe, man, set the pick for me, man. Matter of fact, you know what, Joe? Get your ass out the way. I so IO clear that. Hey, hey. Clear that. Clear that.

[Ocho]

Clear it out. That's why. That's why you can't have nobody like this on your team. Cause, see, he don't want to play his role. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe B]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, hey, Joe. I know what's your role? Sit your ass. Get your ass out my way.

[Ocho]

That ain't your role. On our team, if we all on teams. That is not your role.

[Joe B]

Hold on, Joe. Joe, Chill, Joe, chill. Hey, hey, Joe. If I was a basketball player. You hear me? You got. You got to know. You got to understand your role, boy. I'm the alpha, Joe. I'm. I'm the alpha. I'm. I'm running the ship. I'm steering this. Now, when I pass it to you, you can do your thing. When I go on the bench, your

[Ocho]

role is to hustle and play damn defense. That's your damn role. I need you to be a star in that role, okay?

[Joe B]

Right, Right. Hey, hey, Joe, let me tell you something.

[Joe]

I need you to be a superstar role player.

[Joe B]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. See, I don't. I. I don't think Joe understand who I am. Huh, Joe? I put butts in the seat. I could fill a stadium out by myself, Joe. So I definitely ain't playing. Okay? I'm gonna play defense, right? I' ma sit in the chair, Joe. I'm a sliding puppy, Joe.

[Ocho]

I'm a slide.

[Joe B]

You hear me? I'm a slider, right? But also, people coming to see me for what I do on the office end.

[Ocho]

Make sure I throw you a live. I'll make sure you get a highlighter

[Joe]

too, but, you know, you gonna be

[Ocho]

a defender, a pick and roll guy. You're gonna be the screener, you know. Nah, you don't be doing all this, Joe.

[Joe B]

If you playing with me, you're gonna be deandre Aiden. Huh?

[Ocho]

I already know. I can't even play on the team with dude. I already know that.

[Joe B]

Hey, Joe, I'm playing.

[Ocho]

I'm gonna be a hell.

[Joe B]

Hey, hey, Joe, you got. You got to think. You got to take the comparison to me in. In football and transition that in. In the basketball.

[Ocho]

Transition like that, bro.

[Joe B]

Oh, it's. It's going to for me. It's going. It's going to for me.

[Ocho]

But.

[Joe B]

But hey, Joe, the people coming to see me, man, what you talking about?

[Ocho]

Your shooting ability ain't like that, O Joe, we just got to be 100.

[Joe B]

But you got. You got to understand. Let's. Let's just say this was my sport, if it was my sport. Therefore, everything you just mentioned will be up to par based on who I am.

[Ocho]

Okay, so if we were playing football, who would I be in football

[Joe B]

if. If a football year be like, damn, what's a good comparison for. For Joe as a basketball player but in football, huh?

[Joe]

He gonna be Mike Evans.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I like that.

[Joe B]

Oh, Mr.

[Ocho]

Consistency.

[Joe B]

Mr. Consistency. I like that.

[Ocho]

Nice.

[Joe B]

I like that.

[Ocho]

Mike probably gonna have a hell of a year over there in San Fran too, man.

[Joe B]

Mike finna go slap ass crazy over there, boy, in that offense.

[Joe]

Hey, Ocho, the chat calling you Ocho Perkins. They said you kicked your. So you be sitting rebound and sitting picks.

[Joe B]

See? See the chat tripping the traction. Hey, I think the chat. Boy, y' all better. Y' all better YouTube and Google me.

[Joe]

Stop playing, Ocho. You was that football. That don't be that.

[Joe B]

No, but I'm just saying.

[Joe]

I'm just.

[Joe B]

I'm just saying, if we talking basketball, think about me playing basketball from 4 years old all the way up.

[Joe]

Yes, but you didn't. So we talking about now, and you talk about this man that played the sport. You talking about he gonna be deandre Ayton, and you gonna be the guy that shoot. You gonna be Kobe. Yeah.

[Joe B]

No, no, no, no, no. I ain't gonna be Colby because I play too much. I play too much.

[Joe]

Okay, you gonna be Shay.

[Joe B]

No, no, Shay too serious. I need somebody. I need somebody to.

[Joe]

Ain't nobody making a whole lot of money. That's really good. Everybody. Everybody serious about this.

[Joe B]

It got to be one NBA player. That's really, really good, but made it fun. No,

[Ocho]

I Can see you. Yeah, I can see you being like Jed Vanderbilt. Like, I can see you being like a. Like a Vanderbilt dude. Play for the Lakers. I can see you.

[Joe]

Because he.

[Ocho]

He everywhere, Ocho. I mean everywhere. Hell of an energy, you know what I mean? Got a nice look, but they don't

[Joe]

throw him no balls. Yeah, they don't give him the rock though.

[Joe B]

Yeah, that ain't me trying to keep it 100.

[Ocho]

Oh, hey, we need him doing.

[Joe]

Ocho said he want the ball.

[Joe B]

Nah. Hey, I could play off the ball, though. I don't need the ball. I could play off the ball. And I'm efficient as hell. I'm official. I'm official.

[Ocho]

Be getting a lot of layup.

[Joe]

Okay, hold up. What about Ant Man? Ant man. Have fun. Hey, See? Bingo.

[Joe B]

That's the perfect example. Hey, that's the perfect. No, no, no, no. Joe, Joe, think about it. Personality wise, when the camera in front of him. Ant man is me.

[Ocho]

Personality wise. But y' all games ain't gonna eat. Now.

[Joe B]

It's the same on and off the court. We the same. Hey, having kids and same Ant man. That's me. Yeah. Hey,

[Joe]

the dream erase a 15 point half time deficit to win the season. Oprah over the Minnesota Links. Angel Reese in a Dreams debut. 11 points, 14 rebounds, three blocks, including. Including the game ceiling block. Reese posted her 50th career double double in just 65 games. That's the fewest game of any players to reach 50 double doubles in WNBA.

[Ocho]

I ain't gonna even lie to you. I stopped watching the game. Boy, they. They were getting drugged. I said, damn, they were getting beat so bad. I stopped watching. Hold on,

[Joe B]

hold on, Joe.

[Ocho]

For real?

[Joe]

Yeah, they won.

[Ocho]

They were down big when I was watching. I see. I see your aces, boy. They took one on the chin, boy.

[Joe]

Boy. Oh, Joe, you know, the ring. Celebrate the ring. Hangover, man.

[Ocho]

Too many emotions.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe B]

They. They let. They let one slide.

[Ocho]

They got off to a slow start last year, too.

[Joe]

They did. And then they were like 16 or the last 17, last 18 games. But Angel Reese, 11. You know, hey, Alicia Gray had 24. Ryan Howard had 15. Hillman had 15. But Minnesota ain't got feedback. I mean, Kayla McBride had had 20. Olivia Miles had 21.

[Ocho]

Hey, well, Angelica, I mean, they'd be

[Joe]

all right once they get feedback. They get feedback.

[Ocho]

But Angel Reese is doing okay. Ocho, she just out working these girls, man. She got a motor? Yeah, she got a motor. Hey, look, y' all ain't. See, y' all know y' all probably ain't get to see them walking in. They. I thought they was on the Runway here, the way they.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw angel with the shorts. Y' all going to a WNB game when y' all going to the club.

[Joe B]

They were clean.

[Ocho]

You hear me?

[Joe]

But that. That's what it's. That's what it's turned into. NFL, Ocho. It turned the gadgets to show up with jeans and sweats. Now everybody. Hey, everybody coming to that Louis, and they. They Dior or whatever the case may be. They're. Taylor. They. They got. You know, they got. Everybody got. Everybody got a stylist now, Ocho. Yeah, they're putting stuff together. They got stuff on the rack. Like, hey, you wear this, the X, Y and Z. So you got the NBA, you got the NFL, you got the wnba. So everybody. Everybody's strutting.

[Ocho]

It's a whole spectacle. And I ain't gonna lie. I'm here for it. I like this. I. I like to see the guys put it on. In football, basketball, I damn sure like to see the girls put it on. They not playing. It's straight Runway action. When they come to the game, I'm like, damn,

[Joe]

the girl be stepping. The girl be stepping out. Hey, hey, do your thing. Like I said, I saw it. I was like, well, damn. Hey, where you going? So then I saw Angel, Reese, and it was a couple other head. I was like, okay, y'.

[Ocho]

All.

[Joe]

Y'.

[Joe B]

All.

[Ocho]

Y' all do it.

[Joe]

Y'. All.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. They ain't playing.

[Joe]

Oh, man, they should have been doing. And they should have been doing that ojo when we. When we playing Ocho, but, you know,

[Joe B]

shoot, hey, I ain't had on.

[Joe]

The cameras weren't like that.

[Joe B]

It wasn't like that.

[Joe]

I was.

[Joe B]

When it was a time when game day, I had on Dicky's on. Hey, hey, Joe. I'll give me a nice set of Dickies, man, and call it a day. Yeah, man, Put that little crease in that thing nice and clean. Look. Pair of black. Black Air Force ones, white Air Force ones. Kept it simple.

[Joe]

Yeah, I try to be, you know, I do a little something, you know, but it wasn't too much. No, no. You know, I had a. I wear slack, so I wear jeans. And, you know, you know, it was not. It was nice for the time, you know, at. At one point in time, you know, the big. The big clothes was in.

[Joe B]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So you had the 42. The 42. Sean Jones.

[Joe B]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Michi.

[Ocho]

Hey.

[Joe B]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho]

Dress code in. Boy, I gotta I got a warehouse full of suits. I'm talking about suits and slacks and dress pants, man.

[Joe B]

What? Yeah, I show. I sure would have, like, had a little Runway now, though. Well, I wish I was playing.

[Joe]

Yeah, they do all that.

[Joe B]

Hey, Joe. Hey, them boy. Them boys think they be dressing and putting that. Putting that on joke, man. The boy don't want to see.

[Ocho]

I already know. They don't. They don't.

[Joe B]

They don't want to see me, man. You know, everybody, they.

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[Joe B]

They buying all the expensive stuff. I mean, that ain't fashion, you know, it ain't. It ain't fast. Not. It's not how much something costs. It's about putting pieces together. Can you put pieces together? You feel me? They just.

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[Joe B]

Everybody be looking like the goddamn mannequin. Joke.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

They making that big paper now, so.

[Joe B]

Yeah, I mean, listen, the. The money don't make you a. A fashionista. A fashionisto.

[Joe]

I agree.

[Joe B]

You understand? You know, all you need is one piece. You need one statement piece. You ain't got that.

[Joe]

You know, man, Ojo, them guys go think about it. Ojo, think about them guys going over to Paris Fashion Week.

[Joe B]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You know, guys going to New York fashion.

[Joe B]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

And them guys at the Louis Vuitton show or the. The Tom Brown or Fear Mugler or the Dior. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gucci. That's what.

[Joe B]

That's what it is.

[Joe]

You know, you go to those shows, they fit you. You know, you. Hey, see, me, I. I couldn't even get. I couldn't even get that because I ain't got that kind of body. Triple X. And they just got Runway pieces for your boy, so. But now, hey, to each their own. We need to go. But we be working. Don't you.

[Joe B]

Where we going?

[Joe]

We need to go to. Call Pharrell Williams and get out to the. That Louis Vuitton.

[Joe B]

Hey, man, I could get. I could get us there. What you talking about? I could get us there, meet you and Joe and. Listen, I'm not even in the fashion, Joe. I'm not even in the fashion. I'm just saying if. If. If push come to shove and I got to put that on. I'm. I'm. I'm him, Joe. You feel me? But I choose not to do it because I don't really need the clothes and attire because my face.

[Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe B]

You feel me? But hey, hey, let me know. I could put that word in for us.

[Ocho]

All right.

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