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Nightcap Hour 2: CJ Stroud BACK ON CLOUD 9 + WORLD CHAMPION Cordell Tinch JOINS Nightcap + Baker Mayfield & Sam Darnold PUT ON A SHOW + Dillion Gabriel SHINES in DEBUT
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- [00:01]
Shannon Sharpe
All right, guys, we're gonna get back to football in just a second. We got a very, very special guest joining us. We got world champ and the 110 meter hurdles. Here he is, Cortese Cordell Tench. Dale, what it do doing? How you doing, man? I'm doing amazing. Congratulations. Thank you, bro. You got an incredible story. You went. You set the NCAA record, 1296 running. Everything's going well. Pandemic hit, you step away for an extended period of time, come back, and we have Melissa Jefferson on. I said, I'm taking Cordell 10. You heard it, didn't you? I said, I'm taking Cordell Tench to when I said he's been the most consistent hurdler all year. He's the only one that's been low 13s all year.
- [00:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's.
- [00:54]
Shannon Sharpe
He's the only one that's dipped under 13 all year. Why did you step away and what gave you the confidence to come back and say, you know what? I'm not done with this sport yet. I can do something special?
- [01:08]
Cordell Tench
So it starts with like. So I graduated high school in 2018. I was. I ran for. While I practiced at Minnesota. The ran for the University of Kansas. And then it was just kind of the way Covid was. I didn't run as fast as I did now, but, like, I. I ran well. I was a Big 12 champ, but it just didn't feel right for me yet. So I was like. When the pandemic hit, it was kind of an excuse of like, oh, you darn. I can't. I can't compete. So I just stayed at home, went back to Green Bay, stayed here, and everybody that's been around me that's interacted with me has always believed that, like, I was destined for something like this. And I never saw it for a very long time. So coming home and just, like, resettling and, you know, finding myself, that was really what I needed to come back to school in 2023 and then have an amazing six months. You set the collegiate record, you go pro, you sign with your dream, your dream brand, something you wear every day. Now you get paid to wear it. And then now to fast forward a year and a half after that or two years and be the world champ, like, it's. It's been crazy. It's been amazing, and I'm thankful for it all.
- [02:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, has it. Has it set in yet that you're the world champ? Has it really hit you yet?
- [02:26]
Cordell Tench
It did a little bit. This weekend I got to celebrate with my guys being back In Green Bay. So being around my people, it most definitely did. It settled in a lot when I got home to Green Bay and I gave my mom my medal and she put it on. That's when it really set in. I was like, damn, we did it. Like all, all the, all the sacrifices, all the things of growing up and even growing up as an adult, seeing my mom with my medal is really what, what set it in for me.
- [02:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [02:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So what, what, what's next after obviously winning, winning the goal, what's next? I mean, obviously being a track runner, you want to win goal, but what goal do you set next after having an achievement of. Of that magnitude?
- [03:08]
Cordell Tench
Well, coming into this year, the goal was I wanted to be the best hurdler in the world. Whether that been I ran very fast all year or you know, I have the medal, which I did both. So that was the goals coming into this year. Going into next year. We'll look at, you know, the whole year. The first goal is always to be healthy. That's always the goal. And track got to make it through the whole season healthy. It's a long season. I mean, in reality I just had a year long season basically because I started last November and we just got done last month. So. Yeah, so the, it's, the goal is always to get to be healthy the whole time through, but you know, go in and you know, defend what I earned this year. That's going to be the main goal for sure. I'll have to look into the rest of it. Of what, how fast I want to run and what goals like that. But gotta go, gotta go defend it, you know.
- [03:55]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, Cordell, look when it comes to hurdling, you know, America, we had Roger Kingdom win 84 and 88. And we had Alan Johnson, SC Gamecock. You had Jason Richardson, you have Aries Merritt, you have, I mean you, when it comes to America, we, we are hurling capital.
- [04:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [04:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Now we had Dyron Robles from Cuba. He's stepping in one of goal. You have Lucian of China won a goal. But you know, but you know, and everybody's been tracing that 1280. Yes. Now Grant, Grant got close 1281. I said it's just a matter of time. Now as I look at you with the flat speed that you have, I think you might be the best chance to get dip under 1280.
- [04:36]
Cordell Tench
You see, that's obviously that's always the goal is you wanna, you wanna run for one medals but you also want to run to you on time. Yeah, but I've heard that A lot is people. Obviously, Grant is amazing at what he does, and people believed for the longest, and, you know, now people are looking at it even though he had a down year. Everybody has a down year. You can't be at the top of the mountain forever. But they are acting as if, like, he doesn't still have the chance. But I think that the best chance currently for any hurdler is me and Grant have to be in the same race.
- [05:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Right. Okay. You're gonna come try to come get him.
- [05:15]
Cordell Tench
Yes. Like, I think that we have to be in the same race because I know he gets out well, and I know that over the first five, it's really tough to beat him. As, you know, indoor hurdle races show it. But on the back half of it, I don't think that there's very many people that have the same back half of the race that I do. So in order for us to see a 12, a 12, 7, I think that both Grant and I have to both be at that race, both be competing with lots of money on the line. But I think that that's what it comes down to.
- [05:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [05:47]
Shannon Sharpe
But when you. But when you. But when you look at it, it's amazing because, you know, going into the race, Grant is going to put you under the gun. You know, he's gonna get. He's the best starter in hurdle history. So, you know, like you said, the first five, I'm under the gun. How are you able to remain composed? Because a lot of times talking to hurdlers, they start to press. Now you start to hit hurdles, and now you get off cadence. And now it's over.
- [06:15]
Cordell Tench
For me, it's always been even. I think that it was right after I had won big 12s, way back before I was even running this fast. I had told. I think I was my. The KU hurdle coach at the time, shout out Coach Brewer. She. I had told her, I was like, if I just could get it in to the same race as Grant and Daniel, because those are the two top hurdles.
- [06:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [06:36]
Cordell Tench
College. I said, if I could be in that race, I think that my time will improve significantly. Just because of what's there, who those guys are.
- [06:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [06:43]
Cordell Tench
Just because of what their strengths are and what mine are. And so I've kind of had the mindset for the longest of. I' ma always run my own race. I can't worry about what happens in lanes xyz, because hurdling, you can't look left and right. You don't got enough time in between the hurdles to see them. You have to be focused. So I've, like, had the mindset of, as long as I focus on my race, I don't think anybody could beat me. But it didn't work out that way until, like, this year, but it worked.
- [07:12]
Shannon Sharpe
How does it. How does. When guys are around you? Like you said, I'm focusing on my race. But, you know, guys next to you, they crashing. They hitting every damn hurdle. You like, damn, can y' all get over the hurdle clean?
- [07:23]
Cordell Tench
It's only happened a few times where, like, I've noticed it. I don't know if it's a B thing. I haven't really talked to other hurdlers about it, but from when we hear set and the gun goes off, I really just go into autopilot. Like, my body, I'm just out. And then the race is over, and I'm looking at the board to see what the time is.
- [07:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Wow.
- [07:42]
Cordell Tench
And I get asked, like, after the race, like, oh, how did this feel? And it's like, I have to watch it and see what it looked like because I don't really have a feel for it. It's. It's always been weird. But I don't know if it's just a me thing or if that's other hurdlers.
- [07:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, I have. I have another question with you, especially when it comes to racing, whether. Whether it's. Whether it's the hurdle, whether it's the hurdles, or whether it's anything open. 100, 200, 400. There's always a strategy that goes into every race. You know your strengths, you know your weaknesses. Is there any way. When you're already elite at a certain sport, like. Like. Like you are right now, Is there a way you can make your. Your weak. Your weak point when it comes to the hurdles, your strong point, to where. If you're already great on the back half of the race, how. How close can you get to making the start of the race just as strong as the back?
- [08:32]
Cordell Tench
It's a crazy song and dance that we. That we got to do. Because the thing is, people are always like, oh, well, if Cordell had Grant start, he would be the best hurdler. Or if Grant had Cordell's finish, he'd be the best hurdler. But it's like, it's tough because if I have Grants start now, it's not possible to have the same finish because of how fast you're moving by hurdle five, right? Like, it's not possible where. If I can get. I can be the last one out the blocks, the last. There's a bunch of pictures this year of like photographers taking a picture off the first hurdle. Everybody's in the air except Cordell. But I won the Rift. Like, it's, it's, it's so it's song and dance. So it's a matter of finding how fast you can be early so that you can be controlled and fast and clean through the middle to be able to maintain it throughout the back half or the back quarter and be able to get across the line and finish well. So it's tough, but it's something that, you know, we're learning and we kind of figured it out this year. There's some races where I was the first one off the first hurdle and there's other ones where I wasn't. But for most of the races this year, it didn't really matter if I was in the race. I was winning.
- [09:34]
Shannon Sharpe
But also. But go ahead. You want. Go ahead. Ocho.
- [09:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. I'm going to ask how hard is it to gauge to always have that same consistent start and hit every hurdle and have the same amount of steps every single time Is. Is that hard to do as far as the start?
- [09:50]
Cordell Tench
It's. I found myself a few times this year where I over pushed. Therefore I had to shorten up.
- [09:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [09:57]
Cordell Tench
Because I would have Damn near been 6 first hurdle, then I'm wrong leg whole race. So there's things like that that you got to make sure you do it, but you got to make sure every time your foot's hitting the ground that you're. That you're transitioning that power from the ground up through to push yourself forward. It's. There's a lot. There's a lot in it.
- [10:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Look, we've seen reports of grand slam track having a financial issue issues and you ran this season and they say they are going to pay some of the. Some of the. You don't. You got a check? A check.
- [10:29]
Cordell Tench
My check.
- [10:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Clear. Okay. Okay.
- [10:33]
Cordell Tench
My check clears.
- [10:34]
Shannon Sharpe
So you good? Fantastic. I. I read where you initially. Did you get on a football. Did you get a football scholarship at Minnesota?
- [10:46]
Cordell Tench
So.
- [10:47]
Shannon Sharpe
So what, bro? You wide receiver all written all over you.
- [10:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I do.
- [10:51]
Cordell Tench
I was. That was a really good one. But I went to. I had. Going throughout high school. I had always wanted to play football like my dad had told me. I. I still don't believe that it's true. But he said he came home from work, he used to work swing shift. He came home at 6 o' clock or 7 o' clock. And I was watching the Sunday night game this close to the screen, but my head was going like this. And he was like, what are you doing? And my answer at like 8 was, I can see the game better this way. I was like, but I've, I. I've always looked at football so much different. Like, I love football to death. It's definitely. I mean, obviously track is my life, but football is definitely still my favorite sport. I just look at it different. Like, I can't watch football games with other people because I don't watch it as a fan. I watch it critiquing wide receivers, critiquing the line, like, and people don't want to be around it. They're like, bro, shut up. We just. It was a 50 yard play. And I'm like, yeah, but it could have been a touchdown if. Therefore I just have to watch games alone, you know, the.
- [11:54]
Shannon Sharpe
So what made you prioritize track over football? Because you can make a lot more money in football than track, Cordell.
- [12:00]
Cordell Tench
Absolutely. You really can.
- [12:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on, wait a minute. And before you even answer, you still can. You can still make that a dream.
- [12:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, for sure.
- [12:09]
Cordell Tench
Most definitely.
- [12:10]
Shannon Sharpe
The.
- [12:10]
Cordell Tench
The door, the door to football is never closed for me.
- [12:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [12:14]
Cordell Tench
The, the real difference was, I think it was just like my mindset out of high school was we barely threw the ball and it was like, I'm killing, I'm killing and we barely throw the ball. So just throw the ball more and we'll beat everybody. But obviously, when you're young, I didn't have that. I didn't have that attitude yet. Like, if it was me now, I would have. We would, we would have to do something about it. But it was just that. And I was like, I didn't ran perfect routes all day, been wide open, I got overthrown, I got under, thrown quarterback, got hit. And I was like, I need to be somewhere where if I do perfect by me, can't nobody tell me they beat me because I did what I was supposed to. So that's the competition in track that I really love is if I go out and have a perfect race, I don't think anybody on the planet can beat me. And that it shows that way when, when you're. Regardless of what event you're doing, if you have the perfect jump, perfect throw, perfect anything in track, the numbers will show it and that you'll always have that showing. So that was why I really kind of fell into track and really fell in love with it even more.
- [13:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And now that you mentioned it, I love the confidence. I love the confidence you had. You. You're. You're similar to me in a sense, when it comes to playing football. It's if. If I put the work in doing during the week, on Sundays, nobody can be able to stop me. Now we talk about hurdles now. See, I was. I was a state champion hurdler, too. I was a state champion hurdle. And. And I want to know if we would have raced, like, my best time was 1287. 1280. If we was a race. If we was aligned up right now while you're still in shape, so there would be no excuses. You think you could take me Coacho? I'm gonna be honest. Talk to me. Wait, don't give me nice, though, but talk to me.
- [13:52]
Cordell Tench
There's nobody on the earth, in my opinion, right now that can beat me in a hurdle race.
- [14:00]
Shannon Sharpe
I like that you let you. Cordell, you can let him. You can let him jump the women's hurdle, and you still gonna beat him.
- [14:07]
Cordell Tench
Oh, we can do that. We can do that.
- [14:09]
Shannon Sharpe
We.
- [14:10]
Cordell Tench
You can have. You can have a. You can do the 100 hurdles.
- [14:14]
Shannon Sharpe
As a matter of fact, Cordell, you beat him. You run the hurdles. He run the flat 100, and you still beat him.
- [14:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, now. Now, now that he gonna lose. Now, I run 9, 7 now. Now he ain't gonna beat me.
- [14:23]
Cordell Tench
Now you a 97.
- [14:24]
Shannon Sharpe
I got money on Cordell.
- [14:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm a 97 right now.
- [14:27]
Cordell Tench
You 97 right now?
- [14:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [14:29]
Cordell Tench
All right, so obviously, y'.
- [14:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All.
- [14:31]
Cordell Tench
Look, y' all talk to my agent already, so we can. You can. Y' all can talk to them. You have your people talk to my people, and we'll figure it out.
- [14:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay? See, this is great content that we can create.
- [14:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely.
- [14:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [14:44]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, if you were more great for me, though, if you were to run a flat 100, what do you think you. You think you can get low 10?
- [14:50]
Cordell Tench
I mean, I ran 10, three this year.
- [14:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [14:54]
Cordell Tench
But I think that just the way I run, I have a better chance to run. I have a better chance to run 20.0 or 199 right in the 200 than I do in the.
- [15:08]
Shannon Sharpe
To run because of your. Your strength.
- [15:10]
Cordell Tench
Yeah, the way I. The way I run.
- [15:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [15:12]
Cordell Tench
Because I used to run 150s with some of the best. I mean, they're. My boys are all over the country now, so we used to run 150s in them last 30.
- [15:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I. I was.
- [15:23]
Cordell Tench
I was coming. It was a freight train coming.
- [15:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. So. But. But here's the thing. You said that in order for that race, when we had Melissa on, we was talking I thought the time would be fast, considering who was in the race. You had Shelly Ann, you got Sharika, you got to Lou, you got Alfred, you got Tia, you got Shakar. So you got, you know, to lose. You. You got all of those people. So now, okay, we got the people that's going to push. What are the conditions going to be? She gets a favorable win. She's going sub 106.
- [16:00]
Cordell Tench
I said after. I. I think it was at Pre, when I saw Melissa run and I saw. No, it was at USA's when I think she ran 106 there or 107, one of those two. I said, I've never seen the 106 or 107. Whichever one it was, I was like, I've never seen that in person. That was. Might be the craziest thing I've ever seen. I can see her running 10, 5. I can see her running.
- [16:23]
Shannon Sharpe
It's got to be right. It's gotta. It's got to be the right people in the. In the race. Yes. And it's got to be the right condition. She needs. She needs like a plus one plus one five. Yeah.
- [16:33]
Cordell Tench
I mean, she ran well into headwinds. She just might need a track.
- [16:38]
Shannon Sharpe
If you go back and look at when. When Elaine Thompson Harrow, when she ran that. When she ran what she run, 10:54. Yeah.
- [16:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [16:47]
Shannon Sharpe
She had perfect conditions, and she had the people in the race. You've got to have the people in the race. And there has to be a certain level of fear.
- [16:55]
Cordell Tench
Exactly.
- [16:57]
Shannon Sharpe
You go back and look at Sid. Sid knew Paulino, Marita Polino. She got endurance. She knew Nasser was gonna get out. Bobby probably told her, I want you to, hey, attach yourself to Nasser. She'll pull you to Paulino, and. And then the 100, the last. The last hundred, that's on you. You got the strength to bring it home. And that's exactly what she did. She let Nasser pull it to Paulino. And when she came out of the bin with a hundred to go, I said, okay, her race, who's the strongest?
- [17:28]
Cordell Tench
Yeah.
- [17:30]
Shannon Sharpe
So to see that, I don't know if you were in the stadium or you watching it at home. What was it like? You get two. They had only been for the last 40. For the first time ever, there's only been two women to ever go sub 48. We have two in the exact same race. And then when you go back and look at it, I think NASA ran like, what, 48, 26, which is, what, top 10 time? All time. So you have two women go under 48 in the same race and a 48, 26. And I think the slowest time was sub 50. That's crazy.
- [18:04]
Cordell Tench
I mean, I just like watching it. It was. I mean, being American, but also being a realist as a track athlete. If Sid said she want to do something. If Sid had the nerve to say she gonna run the 110s next year. I'm not saying I'm nervous, but. But.
- [18:23]
Shannon Sharpe
But Kombuchi and Russell and Starks, she just. She can Quinn.
- [18:29]
Cordell Tench
That should be whatever she wants on the track. It's insane. So if whatever she says she want to go do, I don't put it past her. And that's why I think. I really think that she's gonna double in la. That's just my guess is looking at it.
- [18:42]
Shannon Sharpe
What is. What. What is there? I. I think she really wants to get. She wants to go. So she knows if she goes sub 50 in the hurdles, her. Her grandkids, her grandkids, kids might see that. Because to run that kind of time. So because you think about it, she ran 50, 37, and she wasn't near what she is right now in the Open 4.
- [19:12]
Cordell Tench
Exactly.
- [19:13]
Shannon Sharpe
With that, now she can. She definitely can do it. So if I'm film Cabo, I send. I send the flowers every month. Thank you for not running. Thank you for not being in the 400 hurdles. That's what I'm saying.
- [19:24]
Cordell Tench
Appreciate you.
- [19:25]
Shannon Sharpe
She never gonna beat her. Never.
- [19:28]
Cordell Tench
I initially I was like, I think that she had a chance. And then I started, like when I first came back to Track, so in 20, 23. And then I was like, maybe she has a chance, but it was more of like a, you know, you never know. Sometimes somebody get the right race. And then I started watching Sydney run more and more and more, and I was like, yeah. When Fem K's even said it, she's like, you know, when she's here, I know I'm getting second. I'm like, yes.
- [19:52]
Shannon Sharpe
It's like. It's like boat in his prime, you know, at global meets. What? Nobody beating both. Yeah, it didn't matter when he was in his prime. From Beijing to Rio, at a. At a. At a global. A world championship. Yeah, look, Diamond League meets. Yeah, he come. Yeah, you get it. But at a global meet, the world championships, or the Olympics, he put a Jamaican uniform on. Who getting the silver, who getting the bronze? That's what see it is. But she's so far ahead. I mean, is it even fun when you go into a race and you Know you're gonna win by three seconds. That ain't no fun.
- [20:27]
Cordell Tench
Hey, hey, whoa. For me, see, yeah. If I was in a hurdle race and I knew I was gonna win by three seconds, yeah, that's gonna be fun. But then again, it is only. Look, that's, that's 10 seconds. I'm running 10 on. I'm running 10 on the hurdles.
- [20:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but I'm saying, but I'm saying she running the four. Yeah. If you just think if you know you're gonna run, you're gonna run, you're gonna run 13, but everybody else gonna be 13, 3, 13, 4. That's ain't no fun. Cordell, you want a challenge, it depends.
- [20:53]
Cordell Tench
On where you are. If it's at like a global final, which is where Sydney B putting where that, that gap shows up. I get it. At the mother meets, you know, sometimes, you know, folks ducking you, you show up.
- [21:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Man. Cordell, thanks for joining us tonight, man. Congratulations. Continued success. So we gonna see you at the what spectacular next year?
- [21:18]
Cordell Tench
Oh, the ultimate. The Ultimate Championship. Yes, I. I will be there. I will.
- [21:22]
Shannon Sharpe
So you got the USAs and, and. And the. The ultimate. Yes.
- [21:26]
Cordell Tench
I'm. I just know for sure that that's on the schedule, that ultimate championships. I'll be there because I meet with the top 20 people in the world. Why would I not want to be there? Why would I not want to continue to prove why I believe I'm the best.
- [21:39]
Shannon Sharpe
The best against the best. I like to see that. I like to hear that.
- [21:42]
Cordell Tench
Absolutely.
- [21:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Cordell Tench, the 110, the 110 meter hurdles. That's him. Thanks for joining us, man. Packer fan?
- [21:49]
Cordell Tench
Oh, yeah, born and raised.
- [21:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Born and raised.
- [21:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah.
- [21:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you, bro. Appreciate you joining today.
- [21:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Thank you, brother.
- [21:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Come back and see us again soon.
- [21:58]
Cordell Tench
Hey, anytime.
- [22:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Appreciate you, Ocho. Dylan Gabriel had a solid rookie debut despite the Browns losing. Dylan Gabriel was 19 of 33, 190 yards, two touchdowns, matching Joe Flacco touchdown throws on the season. With the defeat, Browns quarterbacks are 0 and 17 in their first start since 1995, the longest streak since 1950 when quarterback starts were first recorded. Oo after watching him start early, after watching his first start, what do you think about Gabriel? What you like Dylan?
- [22:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Gabriel look good, huh? He looked really good. And Stefanski, Stefanski called one hell of a game. A very balanced game. The run, the pass was damn near equivalent. Dylan Gabriel processing, dropping back. Gone. Mareed. Read one, read two, read three. Okay, it's not there. Boom. I'm dumping it. Off to the flat. Everything he did in today's game was extremely clean, extremely keen. Defense played well. They didn't get the win. But what I saw from Dillian Gabriel, and it pains me to say this as a Bengals fan, is he look effing phenomenal. He looked great.
- [23:12]
Shannon Sharpe
He looked poised.
- [23:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They really have something good to build off of when it goes. When it comes to the film room. Based on whoever they plan next week, he gonna be. He's gonna be fine. He's gonna be fine. Especially with the way he played and knowing Brian Flores and that defense and knowing how he can dial up that pressure and try to rattle a young quarterback at all. He handled everything extremely well.
- [23:36]
Shannon Sharpe
He did. He. I thought. I thought he played well. And like you said, considering that what he was, who he was facing as the DC and the kind of exotic looks that Minnesota can throw at you and the kind of pressure they can generate, I thought he played. I thought he played really well. They did a great job of getting the ball out of his hand. Knew they were going to try to put pressure on him, try to disguise it. Judkins run the ball. Ran the ball extremely well. 23 carries, a buck 10. So they ran the ball well enough to. So you just couldn't pin your ears back and fly. Try to get the quarterback. I like what I saw. I really like what I saw. Look, Carson Wentz played well. This is why you get a veteran like Carson Wentz, a guy that can hold the ship steady until your captain comes back. He caught. He called a Ward getting sneaky. You see him run a three step. He run a three step. Go route on cover two and see what they ran. You see what they ran. They ran what the defense call it a yogi. What we call it a stick.
- [24:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [24:30]
Shannon Sharpe
And Ward was looking inside and saw the stick, and he saw what you call a pull up. He didn't realize he would throw the whole shot right behind him. That was a heck of a throw. Addison did a great job of staying wide. Cause that safety's coming.
- [24:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [24:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Do a great job of staying wide. Let him pin yourself to the sideline, because if you get too far inside going the other way, it'll be a kill shot. Great throw by Wentz. Great route by Addison. But I like. I like Gabriel. I. I like what I saw. Look, it's one game.
- [25:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [25:05]
Shannon Sharpe
But I thought considering on the road in, you know, overseas in London, Brian Flores can do a lot of different things, and he confused a lot of quarterbacks, but I thought they did. I thought Cleveland did a great job putting Dylan Gabriel in a situation where he could have success. They didn't get to win. But if I'm Cleveland, I'm like, okay, I think we might have something without.
- [25:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Without the win. I'm feeling good about that. I'm feeling good about that. Defensively, they can always handle their business. Offensively, that's always been the struggles. What offense are we gonna get now? Get this offense that we saw today where there was a heavy dose of run, there was a heavy dose of pass, and he made all the right decisions with the ball and didn't put the ball in harm's way. We can live with that. Well, excuse me. Not we. They can live with that.
- [25:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [25:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He looked good. Huh? He look. He looked really good today.
- [25:54]
Shannon Sharpe
And it's reported. I guess Addison was benched because. I don't know. I mean, they talked about. I mean, because I read in the paper that he played really well considering that he was bench. Now, I don't know the backdrop of the story. I don't know if he did something while he was over there in London. Maybe missed bed check, maybe he was late to practice, late to a meeting or something, but he was reported that he was. Go ahead.
- [26:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think it might be a continuous. A continuous on the suspension and them actually still having punishment for him as well.
- [26:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Why?
- [26:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You never know. You never know. Because if I'm not mistaken, I might not be wrong. I think he set out, what, the first quarter? I think he set out the first quarter or something like that?
- [26:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [26:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think he might have had to sit out the first quarter of the last game as well. I could be wrong. I could be wrong. I'm not sure. But when he did. When he.
- [26:43]
Shannon Sharpe
He was benched because he wanted to explore London and missed a walkthrough. Real. That is what is being reported. Ocho. Ain't nobody. Look, this ain't college. He came off suspension. He was suspended for three games by the NFL. He played well. Why would. Why would. Why would I suspend him again? That hurts me.
- [27:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Hey. Hey. Would you say he. He wanted to. What?
- [27:09]
Shannon Sharpe
He. He wanted to explore London.
- [27:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, you can't do that, man. You can't do that, man.
- [27:17]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't. You can't do that, bro. The last thing I would want to do is be alone, considering what happened to the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback. The last thing I want to be in a foreign country as an American. Yeah. I don't know if they noticed it, but we're not thought of too high in other parts of the World. It's just. I'm just throwing that out there. Ocho. Yeah, we're not.
- [27:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We got to understand over in London there's a lot of. A lot of us over there. A lot of. A lot of them. So he.
- [27:44]
Shannon Sharpe
We're not thought of very highly in other parts of the country, be it London, be it Ireland, be it anywhere. You are an American. Americans right now are not very hot thought of, very high regard.
- [28:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, I understand.
- [28:01]
Shannon Sharpe
And there's a. And they probably said, look, security. We have security here. Just make sure X, Y and Z.
- [28:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right, right.
- [28:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that's his. Hey, he wanted to do it. He did what he wanted to do. Oo.
- [28:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you're right. You can't do that though.
- [28:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, but one thing of the day though. OO Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Seattle Seahawks.
- [28:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [28:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Boy, boy, boy, what a game. That was a good Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnell. Baker Mayfield 29 of 33, 379, two touchdowns, no interceptions.
- [28:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [28:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Sam Darnold 28, 34, 341, four touchdowns. But it was that last turnover he throwing it looked like he had a first looked like it was going to be a touchdown. It hit the guy helmet. Levante, if you want. If you want to play. Well, the NFL look at everybody that's came and talked to OO and I Darren Waller had another touchdown.
- [29:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [29:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Levante David had a big time pick. Go back, look at the guy that's talked to Henley been balling.
- [29:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, everybody having success, huh? Rashan Gary.
- [29:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Who?
- [29:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Gary.
- [29:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah. Rashan G. Yeah. Yeah. Rashad Gary. Yes.
- [29:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn. They got five sacks.
- [29:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [29:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We only in week five.
- [29:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. This was an unbelievable game. 3835 Tampa. They scored 15 points and they scored 10 points in the second quarter. 15 points in the third quarter, 10 points in the fourth quarter. But it was the game winning kick. They win 38 to 35. And it seems like Tampa is always involved in games like this. Ocho remember at the Atlanta game. I mean the. All their games have basically they won have been three points or less.
- [29:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on. We got to talk about A.A. abu.
- [30:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
- [30:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Rookie Iuka.
- [30:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Abuka was crazy. Jackson Smith and Jigba like, hey, it's the battle of Ohio State. Who better? Iuka mea iuka. Seven catches, a buck 63. One tub. Jackson, Smith and Jigba JSN Eight catches, a buck 32. Another T. One had nine targets, eight catches. The other had was seven for seven. A Mecca Abuka with seven targets, seven receptions, a buck 63. I mean, these quarterbacks were throwing the ball.
- [30:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I was like, bro, yeah, they letting it rip.
- [30:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Did anybody bring their defense? That's all I want to know. Did anybody bring the defense? Hey, or, or is it, or is it optional?
- [30:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I, I, I, I don't know. But I know one thing. These young receivers, I know we all can talk about the same top five. And after the season ends, if JSN and IBUKA keep up with what they doing, we gonna have to have.
- [31:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, they tried to, they tried, they tried to crack that. They tried to, they, they definitely tried to crack that top 10. They said, man, we trying to get in the top five. What you talking about?
- [31:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We gonna have to have a conversation.
- [31:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. And we're gonna have to have a conversation about Baker Mayfield being in the MVP discussion while you bull jiving.
- [31:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely, absolutely. Now, when it comes to the MVP discussion, also, we're going to need for Baker Mayfield, no Tampa Bay Buccaneers to have those wins. That win call.
- [31:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [31:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He has to keep going. He definitely could be in that conversation.
- [31:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. You know, I know right now that Josh Allen was the favorite heading into tonight. Justin Herbert was up there, but he lost. My homeboy always going to be in the discussion. Dak, Dak, plate. Dax Dak is throwing the football like you said, but at the end of the day, it's going to come down to wins and losses. Yeah, you could have stat, it's a stat based awards, but they want those stats to go towards winning.
- [31:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [31:55]
Shannon Sharpe
And so when you look at it.
- [31:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It'S, it was, it was. If it was just based on stats, hell, Burrow would have won the goddamn MVP last year if it was stats, because we, we didn't have the W's.
- [32:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Levante David intercepted Sam Darnold with less than a minute left, setting up Chase McLaughlin's 39 yard field goal to earn a 3835 walk off victory. The Buccaneers became the first team in NFL history with four wins in their first five games of a season in which they were either tied or were trailing in the final minute of regulation. Seattle, I mean, Seattle played well, man. I was like, well, damn, Seattle, y' all got it like this.
- [32:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [32:34]
Shannon Sharpe
And then Baker's like, I mean, Baker had four incompletions.
- [32:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that's, that's crazy.
- [32:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Four. Sam Darnold had six. So the ball hit the, so they threw 67 times and the ball hit the dirt 10 times. Ocho, that's it.
- [32:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You, I don't think. Do you know how insane.
- [32:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me take that back. It hit the ball nine times because one of them was intercepted.
- [32:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You understand how difficult that is?
- [33:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, hell yeah.
- [33:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It is for. For two quarterbacks. First round picks. Baker Manfield, Baker Medfield, Cleveland. Sam Donald, New York. And all of a sudden you get to the right situation and all of a sudden you flourish.
- [33:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Sam Donald was third in that draft. Baker Mayfield was first.
- [33:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
My bad, my bad, my bad.
- [33:19]
Shannon Sharpe
And Zach Wilson was second.
- [33:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [33:21]
Shannon Sharpe
And then Sam Donald was third.
- [33:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's amazing what happened when you go to the right situation, huh?
- [33:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Situation.
- [33:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Situations matter for sure.
- [33:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. It. Absolutely. It absolutely does matter. But this was, this was a very, very entertaining game. Ocho. I don't know. They don't learn, but I'm gonna keep letting them do it. So they're gonna learn the hard way. Because see, that's what life has a way of teaching us until we learn the lesson that it's trying to teach.
- [33:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right, right, right.
- [33:50]
Shannon Sharpe
And you know, guys still won't learn. They want to drop the ball. They want to be all. Guy had a 70 yard touchdown. Cost him the game. Yeah, cost him the game.
- [34:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That was that the Cardinals, right? No.
- [34:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Yes. Arizona Cardinals just suffered perhaps the worst, wildest loss in NFL history. They were up 21 to 6 in the fourth quarter. Fumble. Crossing the goal line. That was going to put them up 28 to 6. The fumble and an interception for a touchdown. Cuz think this. Ooh. They had. They got caused to fumble. E fumble. Kick the ball into the end zone. They jump on and get a touchdown. So now it's 21:12, less than five minutes. Cal after the game. I really don't know what to think about that. I don't even know how that's how to lose a game one on one. I don't know. It was crazy. It was. Arizona gave up a 213 lead to the worst team in football. Became the first franchise since 1970, the NFL AFL merger to lose three straight games on game winning field goals. But all you got to do is look at De Bro. Yes. You cost him the game, basically. I don't know. So. So, so the ball was just so heavy, you couldn't take it another two feet.
- [35:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Huh?
- [35:06]
Shannon Sharpe
The ball was just so heavy. Oh, he just had to drop it. Oh. You know, you're bringing groceries in and you truck. I ain't trying to make but one trip, so I'm trying to get all the bags I possibly can. Once you cross, I got 10 bags. I got five and five. If I got 15. I got eight and seven.
- [35:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [35:22]
Shannon Sharpe
And you know, sometimes. Oh, you get. You like, say, whoo. You gotta rest. So the ball was that heavy that he just had to sit it down before he got into the end zone.
- [35:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Why is it happening so much?
- [35:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Because desean Jackson, you started his foolishness. DJ Started his foolishness.
- [35:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, well, technically, I started it.
- [35:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. College.
- [35:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I started there. Yeah. In college. But I. I left the ref behind. So far, he didn't even see it.
- [35:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you did. You did. Threw the ball back.
- [35:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [35:53]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't. I don't get it. Ocho. And we've. Ocho. And we've seen it so many times.
- [35:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It just happened last year. It just happened last year. We just talked about it.
- [36:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, Several times. But yeah. Oh, Ocho, remember the Colts, the receiver.
- [36:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that just last week.
- [36:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Amar. Amari Dardo, 72 yard touchdown. He dropped the ball at the goal line. Mitchell did the same thing against the Rams last week. Ocho, how many times? At what point in time they need to start. You know what? And somebody. The players are so good, you just can't cut them. But, bro, why y' all keep doing this? Y', all. You make Sports center for all the wrong reasons.
- [36:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Reasons. Yeah. Damn. That's messed up.
- [36:44]
Shannon Sharpe
I. I just.
- [36:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's messed up.
- [36:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Jaden Daniels, playing for the first time in two weeks through for 231 yards.
- [36:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And he was cooking back at home.
- [36:54]
Shannon Sharpe
27, 2010 win over the Chargers with 39 yards rushing today. Daniels became the first player in NFL history with four more 4,000 or more pass yards and a thousand or more rush yards in his first 20 games. Justin Herbert was under duress. Sacked four times, took nine quarterback hits, pressured 12 times before being replaced by Trey Lance. Herbert averaged 3.3 yards per pass attempt and threw his only interception when pressured by the commanders. Man, they got after Mojo.
- [37:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, hey, they got at them good. They got off him real good. And this is. This is the definition of when I always say, any given Sunday, anything could happen. As good as the charges have looked since the beginning of the season, today, they ain't look like themselves. Not at all. Not at all. And you. You expect. If you're a bed man, if you're a bed man, Jaden Daniels is first. Kane coming back.
- [37:49]
Shannon Sharpe
He's.
- [37:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's coming off an injury. So, hey, if I'm a bet, man, I'm betting with the charges to win this one.
- [37:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [37:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
In la, too, at that. I'm going to Spoil. Jaden Daniels coming back to la, playing at home. And it ab. It absolutely did not happen.
- [38:05]
Shannon Sharpe
It did not happen. Jaden Daniels 1526, 231, 1 touchdowns. They ran the ball extremely well. 28 rushes, 163 yards. Deebo got in on the action, 8 for 96 and a touchdown. Luke McAffrey had a tremendous 50 yard catch to set him up for a touchdown. Keenan Allen became the fastest player in NFL history to collect a thousand catches. It took him 159 games.
- [38:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn, boy. Hey, they been dishing, boy, that ball, man. A thousand, huh? A thousand.
- [38:43]
Shannon Sharpe
He got a thousand in 159 games.
- [38:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's crazy.
- [38:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [38:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How many catches you got, huh?
- [38:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Eight, fifteen thousand. I went thousand.
- [38:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, that's. That's. Wow.
- [39:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Now it's going to be routine. Now people gonna think if you don't have a thousand catches now it's gonna. People gonna think you was a bum if you a receiver.
- [39:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You have to. People have to also understand that the game has changed.
- [39:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. And why I say if you don't have a thousand catches now, it ain't like when. When I came in and you came in, it was extraordinary. Got like, damn, a thousand. Yeah, hell, I remember when Jerry had like a thousand. Damn.
- [39:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, that's, that's.
- [39:27]
Shannon Sharpe
And then, you know, so now, I mean, you probably got what you probably got. How many guys got a thousand catches? At least 12.
- [39:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That many?
- [39:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Maybe more. Maybe more, right? Like Chris Carter, Tim Brown to Jerry, 15. Yeah. Hines wars got a thousand. But you got tight ends, you got Kelsey, you got Gonzo, right? Hold on. Got a thousand. Fitzgerald have a thousand.
- [40:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, man, but the boy was getting that rock, boy. Hey, well, how many? How many I got?
- [40:13]
Shannon Sharpe
D Hop has 989. He'll get a thousand this year. Jesus christ. Devonte got 979.
- [40:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What I got what I got. I need to come back and play.
- [40:29]
Shannon Sharpe
You got 766.
- [40:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's it. Hey, I was sorry as hell. Damn.
- [40:38]
Shannon Sharpe
I think what I think when I retired, I was in the top 10.
- [40:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It dropped down. Now.
- [40:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Jerry Rice leads the way. 1549, Larry Fitzgerald, 1432, Tony Gonzalez, 1325. Jason Whitten, 1228. Marvin Harrison, 1102, Chris Carter, 1101, Tim Brown 1094-1078. Anquan 1076, Reggie Wayne, 1070, Andre Johnson, 1062. Steve Smith, 1031, Isaac Bruce, 1024, Travis Kelce 1019. Hines Ward has a thousand and Keenan Allen just a thousand. So what year is this? What Year is this for Keenan? Year 1112. Year 13.
- [41:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Wheeling and dealing.
- [41:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Boy, I'm 39th Ocho.
- [41:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's dope. That's dope. That's dope.
- [41:51]
Shannon Sharpe
And what when I, I left in the top 10. So I ain't in the top 10 no more.
- [41:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, listen.
- [41:57]
Shannon Sharpe
The Raiders were handed a 46, 40 to 6 drubbing by the Colts at Lucas Oil. Jonathan Taylor ran for three touchdowns and a two point conversion. Indiana Jones Daniel. Indiana Jones threw for two touchdowns while playing another turnover free game. And the Indianapolis coach remained perfect at home. The Raiders are one and four were start to Pete Carroll Coach head coaching career I'm processing it poorly, to tell you the truth, because I didn't expect, I did expect to win right out of the shoes.
- [42:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, I mean that's, I mean are you supposed to say something like that as a head coach? Is that supposed to be a result?
- [42:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I mean, I think, I mean ask, ask Sean McDermott did he think he was going to win? Hell, air coach think they gonna win. But how you gonna win when your quarterback have three turnovers? I mean, Gino didn't play good today. He had two. Excuse me, he had two turnovers. Two picks bad. Indiana Jones 20 or 29, 212, two touchdowns, relieved by Anthony Richardson. Jonathan Taylor, 17 carries, 66 yards, three touchdowns. I mean the Raiders aren't good enough, right. To overcome the mistakes that Gino.
- [43:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- [43:18]
Shannon Sharpe
You're not, you're not that. You're. They're not good enough.
- [43:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Not, not at all. There may be, there's maybe one, two, maybe three teams that are good enough to overcome multiple, multiple. Kansas City Chiefs are one of them. The Bills are another one. And maybe Lamar Jackson when their team is at full health, at full strength.
- [43:39]
Shannon Sharpe
But we saw, we saw the Bills not able to overcome turnover tonight. It all depends on who you playing. You playing a good team, you ain't overcoming no turnovers.
- [43:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
- [43:50]
Shannon Sharpe
And now what happens is when you turn the ball over, one or two things happen. You either bring the team up to your level or you take. Go down to their level.
- [43:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, one or the other. Yeah. Oh, you know what, Let me throw the Lions in that conversation as well.
- [44:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. And so, but the Lion, I, I think Indiana is getting everything that. Look, it's five games into the season.
- [44:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [44:11]
Shannon Sharpe
But I don't think the season could have gone any better other than the, the untimely passing of their owner, Jim Ursay.
- [44:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [44:18]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't think the season could have Gone any better for this ball club, Ocho. I mean, Daniel Jones is giving them everything that they, they could have hoped for and more. So they only had to throw it 29 times, which is not a lot. 29, 25 rushes. So I think, I think the season has gone unbelievably well. Yeah, for the, for the Indianapolis Colts, it's.
- [44:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Boy, Daniel Jones. Listen, as much as I said about him, man, I got to take all that back. I got to take anything, anything negative I said about Daniel Jones. Maybe, maybe it is the Giants and you don't want to say maybe it is the Giants because goddamn Jackson Dart. Even though they lost today, he cutting up. He's cutting up so. And he's.
- [45:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, let's get to that game. Now you mentioned that the Saints get their first win over mistake prone Giants. Giants rookie Jackson dark pass for two touch 202 yards and two touchdowns, but turned the ball over three times. Even scat Pack had a turnover. They had. They had five total turnovers and they lost three fumbles. Darius Slade lost a fumble. Jackson Dart last lost a fumble and Scat Pack lost a fumble. Three turnover, five turnovers. Spencer Rattler 21 of 31, 225 on a touchdown. Shaheed had four catches for a buck 14 on the touchdown, including a 87 yarder. The Giants were in cruise control and then they started turning the ball over. They turned the ball over like four consecutive possessions and this is what you get.
- [45:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely. Rasheed. Hey, Rashid Shahid. You know, I got a nice little tweet to say you need to fix my speed on Madden.
- [46:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, no, no, no. He can run. For real?
- [46:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Yeah, he can go now.
- [46:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he can Scat.
- [46:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He can go. Yeah, that was, that was a good thing.
- [46:18]
Shannon Sharpe
And I know Jackson Dart wanted to, you know, he wanted to play well, but anything, he was playing well and then he just started turning the ball over and that fumble really hurt them. Scat Pack fumbled the ball.
- [46:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [46:28]
Shannon Sharpe
And the guy runs it back 87 yard for the touchdown. And they level look back after that. The Carolina Panthers overcame. Oh, that's. You ought to be ashamed of yourself, Ocho.
- [46:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, we talked about this game already.
- [46:42]
Shannon Sharpe
No, we're talking about it. Carolina Panthers overcame a 17 point first half deficit to beat your Miami Dolphins 27 to 24. We need a little help, huh, Tua. 256, three touchdowns, clean game. But Jayla Waddle has 6 for a buck 10. Darren Waller had 5 for 78 in the touchdown. Devon Chan had 6 for 30 and a touchdown. Bryce Young 19 of 31, 98, two touchdowns. But it was Rico Dodell Daddell. 23 carries, 206. He's the third Panther to go over 200 yards rushing, 32 rushes, 239 yards. They play. If I'm not mistaken, they played Cowboys next week, right? Doesn't Carolina play the Cowboys next week.
- [47:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Already?
- [47:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he said I'm gonna get. I'll say. I want all that. He want all that, so. Hey.
- [47:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right. My dolphin. My Dolphins. We gonna be all right, huh? Dolphins gonna be all right.
- [47:51]
Shannon Sharpe
No, y' all not. I don't know why you keep saying that, but y' all not gonna be all right.
- [47:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Can I tell you something?
- [47:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [47:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The Dolphins are in a better position than the Ravens. You know that, right?
- [48:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. But the thing is that I'm hoping you understand what you mean, better position.
- [48:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
A better position going forward.
- [48:11]
Shannon Sharpe
One about to get eaten by a crocodile, the other about getting eaten by a shark.
- [48:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You think so?
- [48:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [48:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You sound real confident.
- [48:24]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, the Broncos. Time for our final segment. But evening. It's time for Q and A.
- [48:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I know Lions fans love y'. All.
- [48:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [48:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Love y'. All. I'm sorry. Who they?
- [48:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Kemper. Norwood Jr. Said, Ocho, I'm sorry your bangles lost, but it's an 84 and 85 for life. And, Ocho, you'll always be my favorite bingo players. Let's go, Broncos. That's what I'm talking about, Kemper. That's what I'm talking about. Gold standard. Dylan Gabriel will make a great starting quarterback for Cleveland. I hope you're right, man. Cleveland fans deserve that. Timothy Humphrey said, I know I'm going to be mad about Broncos win. Too bad the Ravens will miss the playoffs this season. Timmy, I'm assuming you're a Bengals fan and y' all will, too. Aaron Jones said the Broncos won the super bowl today. It's okay. We've been playing terrible football. Still 4 and 1. No team has won every game since 1972. We'll fix it, bro. Now we don't won Super Bowls. As a matter of fact, did you realize that the Broncos won more super bowl than the Eagles? But that's. Don't even worry about it.
- [49:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Why we talking?
- [49:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Jason Zeldor said, Oo Bengals are so bad, not even players from Rev. UN can help them. Nope. Prayers. I can't even help him. OO I can't help him. OO need to put a paper bag over his head to like the other bingo. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
- [49:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We number two in the division. Slow down.
- [49:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, sure. That's what y' all used to do. Slow down.
- [49:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We. Yeah. That's when we were. We were extremely bad. We're not that bad anymore.
- [49:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all about to be extremely bad again.
- [50:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We're not the laughing stock of the league like we once were.
- [50:07]
Shannon Sharpe
That's debatable. Bab and Patel said ocho. How about Brother Browning? Laughing emoji. Trash can. Trash.
- [50:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right. Hey. It's not. It's not. Where's the sportsmanship? Where's the sportsmanship? Where's the sportsmanship?
- [50:27]
Shannon Sharpe
It's very high school.
- [50:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's very difficult to play the quarterback position in NFL. It's very. It's very difficult. How do you feel? How do you feel the shooting? Joe Burrow? Think about it.
- [50:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Can I ask you a question?
- [50:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Talk to me.
- [50:41]
Shannon Sharpe
When you first. How you first started playing football.
- [50:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I was four.
- [50:44]
Shannon Sharpe
You was four?
- [50:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [50:45]
Shannon Sharpe
He asked you what position you wanted to play. What'd you say?
- [50:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I wanted to play quarterback.
- [50:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. You went to the quarterback lineup, and as you got older, they asked you what position you want to play. Where did you go?
- [50:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Receiver.
- [50:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Exactly. So if Jake Browning didn't want that criticism, he shouldn't have took his ass to the quarterback line. Thank you. I'm glad you said that. Chris. Christopher E. Evans Jr. Said massive win for the Patriots. We just got to clean up some damn penalties, though. If we can play clean all around, we can compete with anyone. One thing. Look, one thing. You know about Vrabel, his teams look tough. They're physical. When he was in Tennessee and he got decent quarterback play, bro. I think he went to the AFC championship game with Ryan Tannehill. That tells you something. So you give him a decent quarterback, his teams are going to be physical on both sides of the football. And he can flat out coach. He can coach.
- [51:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Dang.
- [51:44]
Shannon Sharpe
You know what I want to see? I want to see who the Patriots and the Lions play. Oh, and then the coaches got to go to. And then the coaches got to go to midfield. Slug it out. But those two guys I like to play for because they get you ready. You could tell. They get you fired up on you. They get you ready to play.
- [52:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely.
- [52:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Wolf had facts. I had to watch this massacre live in Ocho's jersey surrounded by Lions fans as a Raven. True and infamous. 73 bingos. Got BTA dolphin. Let the Panthers come back and win. Not a good Sunday for you. Oo. It was not great Sunday for me. Piero predo. What about the Ravens? Go Texans.
- [52:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Thank you. Somebody was a good Sunday for You how's a good Sunday for you and your Ravens got spanked?
- [52:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Carl. We. We be the undefeated team. Put put foots in them in their building.
- [52:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, hold on now you just focusing on one team, huh? That's. That's funny. That's funny how that work.
- [52:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Straight ahead, bro. All I'm doing. Hey, straight ahead.
- [52:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We got selected members.
- [52:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Bronco country was.
- [52:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You was hyping the Ravens up just two weeks ago.
- [52:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Bronco Country.
- [52:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, let's keep it Bronco country the rest of the season. Don't even mention the Ravens.
- [52:58]
Shannon Sharpe
I'mma mention the Ravens when Lamar get back. Jj, JJ Carver said even my Saints won today. Who that? Not who they true that. In just one week, Alex M Technology be whipping UN's ass. Yeah, man. That thing this computer don't be wanting to do right. Man, I need something I can speak and it just change. I need something. A voice activated computer. Brian in said. Let's go Lions. Ocho, don't worry. Every dog has their day. They not having any more days. Brian that day. Just not next year. Manu struggled a little bit. Not too bad for his first start at left tackle. On to kc. Take golf plus five rushing yards. Hold on. The Lions play Kansas City.
- [53:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Lions play the Chiefs. That got to be a prime time game.
- [53:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Shadow 0810. Hey, Ocho. Hey. Huh? Wow. In Kansas City or in Detroit? Wow. Hey, Ocho. Hey, Chad. Hey, Cinco. Say it with me. Who that when they. When they gonna win another game?
- [54:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Don't do that. Don't do that. Because I bet his team didn't even win today.
- [54:17]
Shannon Sharpe
1 128. Unt try that. Like hurts ain't do nothing. Hurts was dotted all over. All over the field. The field. He had a 60 yard bomb to Smitty. Y' all can have y' all cake and ice cream party. The Eagles finally lost. Y' all just see y' all back in January. Ain't, bro. We went and put foots in, y'.
- [54:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All.
- [54:43]
Shannon Sharpe
JJ Said gave Quinya the business. Baba Patel wearing a Bengals Ocho jersey with no draws on said. Ocho. You Ocho wearing a bingo. Oh, he wearing a Bingo jersey. Come on, bro. We don't need to know that. Keep that to yourself. Mike. Mike. Don't worry, Ocho. Your Bingles are having a rough time, but at least your Patriots are looking good. You should start repping them more. Nope. He said you ain't climbing the page. No, no, no. We're not going to do that.
- [55:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, me being at the Patriots like you being at The Ravens. It was a honeymoon. That's all it was.
- [55:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, it was.
- [55:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It was a honeymoon. That's it.
- [55:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I won a Super Bowl. I went to a Pro Bowl.
- [55:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You weren't there long enough. You weren't there long enough. I don't care.
- [55:33]
Shannon Sharpe
I won five. I won five playoff games for them. No, I'm king Rail Ocho rep Patriots before I route you up. Sure, Sam Black Ocho doesn't claim the Patriots, but the fans claim him. His team got a huge win over the Bills. Unc Ravens can't say that or anything right now. Go past. What about the Broncos, Sam? What about the Broncos? This Bronco country.
- [56:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And watch. Watch for the. Watch what the fans do to y'. All. Y' all play Dolphins next, right?
- [56:09]
Shannon Sharpe
No, I don't think we. I don't think we play y' all next.
- [56:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You just said that.
- [56:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Man. We a sack tour like 50 times. We play the jets next. Oh.
- [56:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah. That gonna be. That gonna be in London. That could be Aaron Glenn first.
- [56:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they played the jets in London. They need to call me to go get that trip. Flesh said. They said the Bengals are signing Booby Miles and Air Bud Ocho. Eduardo Marillo. What do you honestly believe the Raiders need to be successful or just even relevant? You got to get consistent quarterback play. Without that you not winning. Now. They were out. They were out without the tight end today.
- [57:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But Brockers hurt his knee.
- [57:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, Brockers.
- [57:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Brother. Bowers.
- [57:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Brock Bowers. Yeah. Yes, but I mean, you look. You're not going to be able to turn. They're not good enough to turn the ball over and be over. Overcome that adversity. They're not there yet.
- [57:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely not.
- [57:23]
Shannon Sharpe
DM street said, bro, you say Bengals D is trash, but yet got how many three and outs versus the top ranked Lions offense when Jake throws a pick who they. When was the last time the Broncos went to the Super bowl of AFC championship game?
- [57:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They ain't even brought 2012, I think.
- [57:41]
Shannon Sharpe
If I'm not mistaken, 2015, remember they won the Super Bowl. They beat Carolina.
- [57:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, 2015, a decade later. Where y' all at?
- [57:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all went got beat. We bet y' all ain't never won one. At least we can say we won one.
- [58:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They cheat. I'm not even gonna talk about that.
- [58:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, don't do that. Oh, don't do that. Don't do that.
- [58:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They cheated.
- [58:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Quinn May says, I remember when wide receiver and track had beef. Nah, I don't know. Cordell. Cordell say you know football is still option. I don't know if Cordell got that in him.
- [58:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You don't think so?
- [58:21]
Shannon Sharpe
It's. It's a whole different thing. Running that straight line is one thing.
- [58:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, cutting and moving. Yeah.
- [58:27]
Shannon Sharpe
And the hurdles, them hurts them stationary. They ain't trying to hit you, Shakur. F that. You got to keep it a buck. Ain't it special about Check down Charlie? It was a younger tiny Flacco Ocho. Bingo. So booty.
- [58:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I guess y' all ain't see Jamar Chase today, huh? Are y'. All. Y' all not watching the game? They talk about the banger being. Did you see Uno today?
- [58:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [58:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, Okay. I just want to make sure y' all saw.
- [58:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me show them. Cheap touchdowns, that game without a hand. Why to score them. Don't do that, O Joe. I mean, Chase is phenomenal. But you know, that game was out of hand, cheap.
- [59:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The game is not over to the clock. Hit zero that clock.
- [59:23]
Shannon Sharpe
That game was over the minute Joe. The minute that Joe Burrow went down, it was over for y'.
- [59:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All. Okay?
- [59:29]
Shannon Sharpe
That's like me working out two hours in the gym and come home and eat a Twinkies. Empty calories, Ocho. They add no nutritional value.
- [59:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Keep that same energy as the season goes on and we improve and we prove you wrong.
- [59:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Pierre Black said, if you could cook and or something for the last time, what would it be? Nothing. I have no desire to cook.
- [59:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Peanut butter and jelly. Sandwiches them up in the microwave 12 seconds and squish them down when they come out.
- [60:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Oo. Can't cook either. If the Colts go 13 and 4 and Daniel Jones win and finishes in the MVP run, can he hit the Colts over the head of free agency? He absolutely will hip them over the head in free agency. He's a free agent. He signed a one year deal.
- [60:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, just like y'. All.
- [60:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Remember how he did the Giants? He had that one good season and did it get him up. Had the biggest small song playing in the background. Give me the loop. Give me the loop.
- [60:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [60:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Goodness gracious, the capers. That's what he about to do to the coach. He go 13 and 4. He about to get 50 mil easy DT. Say, Ocho straight line to you or his analysis the Eagles game. Watch the table, Ocho. Come on, you seen them rough call. See, there you go. See, there you go. You notice every time the Eagles lose, huh? Is the refs.
- [60:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, see, now, now I know I gotta go watch this game. I gotta.
- [60:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Now you ain't say that when they call intentional grounding. You didn't say nothing about the refs called when they call. Intentional grounding on Bo Nicks and the receiver was standing right there. Don't do that.
- [61:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [61:08]
Shannon Sharpe
You lost. If I'm AJ Brown, don't come talk to me about the passing game now. I thought it was all good since we were winning, right? Love the show. Be gang. 268 said. Yep. Kev him out of the tush. Push, too. Ulto ain't do no tush pushing, right? Yeah. Eagle fan. Oh, Gilly. Let me get that.
- [61:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, don't they. Don't get Gilly started, man. Don't get Gilly started.
- [61:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Gilly, just so you know, we even. Okay? I. I ain't want you to get too far ahead. Cause you know, you be you behold of your little subo Joe. I just want you to know we on level playing field. Right? Okay. We good. We on the. Hey, we on that Philly pack.
- [62:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [62:03]
Shannon Sharpe
You know what I'm saying, don't you? We on that Philly pack.
- [62:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now, don't put me in that. That's that. That's that. No, don't put me in that. I'm worried that I'm focused on my bangles. We need to win.
- [62:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, You. I'm sorry. You can't talk uk Say football.
- [62:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's fine. That's fine. We're gonna be all right.
- [62:19]
Shannon Sharpe
No, you're not. Stop saying that.
- [62:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm gonna let you have your fun this week. Now, when y' all get y' all ass. Never mind. Don't worry.
- [62:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all not gonna be. Y' all not gonna be okay. Y' all not gonna be okay. Yo. Oh, yo, Big fan ago. Shout out from Poughkeepsie, New York. One of yalls early picks for super bowl matchup. Mvp, Defensive Player of the year. Etc.
- [62:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hell, the way Daniel Jones playing and I. I got to throw him in the way.
- [62:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Baker Mayfield playing.
- [62:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, defensive player of the year.
- [62:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Or Red Bonito.
- [62:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Come on. Don't. Don't do that. Don't do that.
- [62:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Man got seven sacks, Ocho. He gonna have 20.
- [63:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right, hold up.
- [63:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Back to back. He gonna do something like the Steelers did when the Steelers used to be in the 70. They go back to back. Defensive player of the year.
- [63:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
20.
- [63:16]
Shannon Sharpe
He gonna get 20.
- [63:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, we'll see.
- [63:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Cause you got him on one side, you got Cooper on the other. You got Allen pushing the middle right. Don't be mad. Oo. Don't be mad. I'm not mad.
- [63:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm good. I'm good. I'M good. I know we gonna be all right. I'm not tripping.
- [63:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, I don't care how many times you say it, it ain't true.
- [63:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right, we gonna see. Hey, we. Hey, we in week five. You got all this confidence. We got a long way, a lot.
- [63:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Of football to play. I don't know why.
- [63:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's a lot of footballs left to play.
- [63:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Not for y'.
- [63:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All. All right.
- [63:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Not for y'. All. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite unc, Shannon Sharp. That's my partner and co host. That's Liberty City's own Bingo's ring of fame honoree, Pro Bowler All Pro. He's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you you get your podcast from. I'd like to personally thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. While you're at it, check out Shave by La Portier. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. Best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market and you still have the limited edition that you can purchase, so order that. Just go to laportier cognac.com please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go check out my media company on all of his platform, Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, Nightcap has been nominated for two Signal Awards under the genre best sports podcast and under the video, best video podcast Co hosting. We're leading slightly. Help us go ahead and run it up. Voting ends midnight Thursday. And Club Shae Sha has also been nominated for two awards under the genre and athlete, shape and culture. And under video best podcast. The Patriots go into Buffalo and thanks to a last second field goal, beat the bills 23:20. The bills fall. They're the last unbeaten team in the NFL. The Bills lose to the Patriots 23 20. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. I'm unk Heath Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow night. And after Kansas City, Jacksonville. Thank you guys for joining us.
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