Nightcap Hour 2: Cowboys’ Osa Odighizuwa joins NIGHTCAP & Talks PLAYING for Marshawn Kneeland + Micah Parsons DOMINATES the LIONS

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2: Cowboys’ Osa Odighizuwa Joins Nightcap & Talks Playing for Marshawn Kneeland + Micah Parsons Dominates the Lions

Date: November 28, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guests/Co-hosts: Chad 'Ocho' Johnson, Ziggy Ansah (Osa Odighizuwa is discussed, may be confusion in transcript), general Nightcap crew

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Episode Overview

This Nightcap Hour 2 episode dives into the Dallas Cowboys’ impressive Thanksgiving Day win, focusing on the team’s surging defense, locker room leadership, and the personal impact of losing teammate Marshawn Kneeland. Cowboys defensive lineman Ziggy Ansah (transcript may conflate him with guest Osa Odighizuwa) joins Shannon Sharpe and Chad 'Ocho' Johnson to talk about the defense’s turnaround, honoring fallen teammates, and the unique experience of being a Dallas Cowboy. Later, Shannon and Ocho break down Micah Parsons’ historic dominance, the Packers’ win over Detroit, and a series of classic NFL stories about physicality and attitude in the league.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Thanksgiving Traditions & Nigerian Roots

Timestamps: 02:34–04:46

• Ziggy Ansah describes his Thanksgiving as “straight Nigerian food”—fufu, jollof rice, egusi, suya—reflecting family and heritage.
  • Memorable moment: Ocho jokes about being “82% Nigerian” (as per his ancestry test), leading to a playful exchange about cultural knowledge and “Yahoo boys.”

2. Cowboys Defense—Mindset Shift and Accountability

Timestamps: 04:55–07:08

• Shannon highlights the defense’s impact: “You guys have stepped up – back-to-back game-winning plays, sacks against the Eagles and Raiders...defensively, it was you guys that set the tempo.” (05:00)
• Ziggy emphasizes the group’s talent and accountability:
  • “We have the guys in the room for the job. This defense is way better than what we’ve been putting on tape.” (05:35)
  • After a disappointing start, players increased urgency post-bye to “control our destiny.”
• The defense wants to “give the ball back to the offense as much as possible” to give the team chances to win (06:00).
• The recent loss of Marshawn Kneeland weighs heavy:
  • “We have to honor him with the way we play...asking ourselves, ‘How would he approach the game?’” (06:48)

3. Peaking at the Right Time

Timestamps: 07:08–08:31

• Ocho invokes an old Bill Belichick maxim: “Football season doesn’t really start until after Thanksgiving.”
  • He praises the Cowboys’ late-season surge: “Right now...with the offense playing the way it’s playing, being one of the best...y’all could run the goddamn table.” (07:45)
• Ziggy points out “three games in 10 days,” recognizing November’s importance in shaping playoff destiny.

4. Defensive Talent, Leadership & New Additions

Timestamps: 09:04–11:08

• Discussion of new defensive pieces—Quinny, Kenny Clark, Jadavian Clowney, Sam Williams—and how their presence has raised the standard.
  • Ziggy: “Getting Kenny, getting Q has helped out a ton...either one of them could have the C on their chest...it makes my job easier as a leader.” (09:57)
• The focus: control your own path, don't rely on others' results.
  • “As a competitor, you hate to be in that place...you want to be in the driver’s seat.” (11:08)

5. Dak Prescott’s Leadership and Value

Timestamps: 11:21–13:49

• Shannon praises Dak: “As good as I’ve seen Dak spin the football in four or five years.”
• Ziggy is adamant: “I'm tolerating no Dak Prescott slander. Never have. A healthy Dak Prescott is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.” (11:45)
• They debate the myth of easy QB replacement, with Ocho noting the Browns’ and Jets’ decades-long struggles.
  • “People don’t understand how difficult it is to have a quarterback.” (12:59)
• Dak is described as first in, last out leader who “brings everyone else along, too.” (13:37)

6. Honoring Marshawn Kneeland

Timestamps: 18:10–21:05

• Ziggy recounts the emotional aftermath:
  • “A lot of shock...followed by just crying...How are we going to honor him and take care of Marshawn’s family?” (18:24)
  • “Trying to turn that pain into a purpose.”
• Ocho shares a parallel from losing teammate Chris Henry, emphasizing the importance of therapy and transforming pain.

7. Being a Dallas Cowboy—Culture & Pressure

Timestamps: 21:05–22:33

• Ziggy: “It’s amazing...Cowboys Nation is honestly one of the best fan bases in football...America’s team.” (21:22)
• The pressure cuts both ways—fans notice everything, including social media activity during down times.

8. Family Support & Life Off the Field

Timestamps: 22:29–23:45

• Ziggy’s mother moved in, bringing “home” energy—her influence is visible throughout his house:
  • “She made it a home...just blank walls if it was just me..."

9. Micah Parsons’ Historic Performance

Timestamps: 29:24–43:56 (Segment after Ziggy’s appearance)

• Shannon catalogs Parsons' impact: “First player ever to record 12 or more sacks in each of his first five seasons.” (29:24)
• Ocho: “A generational talent...it doesn’t matter what defense you put him on, same type of production.” (30:01)
• In-depth discussion of blocking, defensive schemes, the evolution of safety and receiver roles, filled with storytelling and NFL inside commentary.

10. Around the League: Packers, Lions, Playoff Race, Q&A

Timestamps: 29:24–~68:00

• Packers’ win over Lions: Jordan Love’s strong game and the defense’s clutch performance.
• The crew answers fan questions live, riffing on:
  • Halftime routines,
  • Favorite and least favorite stadiums (shoutouts to Philly’s old "Vet," Oakland, and the black hole),
  • The physicality and culture in the NFL,
  • Hot dog eating habits (Ocho had only three hot dogs for Thanksgiving).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Defensive Urgency:
  • “Everything we want is still in front of us, but we have to have a very heightened sense of urgency.” – Ziggy Ansah (05:50)
• On Dak’s Value:
  • “I’m tolerating no Dak Prescott slander. Never have...A healthy Dak Prescott is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.” – Ziggy Ansah (11:45)
  • “Who are we gonna get? Who would you rather have? Hell no. Stop talking.” – Ziggy Ansah (12:08)
• On Honoring Marshawn Kneeland:
  • “Trying to turn that pain into a purpose...carrying his light and taking him with us every single step of the way.” – Ziggy Ansah (20:43)
• On Being a Cowboy:
  • “Cowboys Nation is honestly one of the best fan bases in football...it is America’s team.” – Ziggy Ansah (21:22)
• Micah Parsons’ Consistency:
  • “To do it in Dallas, this is what you call a generational talent, a transcending type player...” – Chad ‘Ocho’ Johnson (30:01)
• NFL Culture:
  • “There ain’t no playbook for dealing with real life, life and death situations.” – Shannon Sharpe (19:01)
  • “Fans notice everything...let you post anything, you ain’t playing good, oh my goodness...” – Ziggy Ansah (22:06)

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Important Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------------|-------------| | Ziggy joins; Thanksgiving/Nigerian food | 02:34–04:46 | | Defensive turnaround/locker room urgency | 04:55–07:08 | | Hitting stride post-Thanksgiving | 07:08–08:31 | | D-line talent additions & leadership | 09:04–11:08 | | Dak Prescott discussion/leadership | 11:21–13:49 | | Honoring Marshawn Kneeland | 18:10–21:05 | | Ziggy on Cowboys’ fanbase and pressure | 21:05–22:33 | | Home life/family influence (Ziggy's mother) | 22:29–23:45 | | Micah Parsons’ performance/Packers-Lions game recap | 29:24–43:56 | | Deep NFL storytelling & player culture | 34:32–43:56 | | Fan Q&A, playoff talk, league observations | 49:49–68:16 | | Stadium/halftime routines | 66:50–69:24 |

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Episode Tone and Style

This episode is rich in football knowledge, blending passionate, unfiltered banter with emotional honesty. Ziggy's thoughtful leadership shines, Ocho brings humor and perspective as an ex-receiver, and Shannon anchors everything with a Hall-of-Famer’s gravitas and warmth. The conversation bounces fluidly from locker room culture to X’s and O’s, all while sharing the very human impact of tragedy and teamwork.

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For Listeners

Whether you’re seeking locker room insight, playoff analysis, stories of leadership, or just love the camaraderie of elite NFL minds, this episode serves up an entertaining and often moving reflection on football’s power to unite, challenge, and heal.

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End of Summary

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, we got a very special guest joining us coming fresh from the Thanksgiving Day game in which the defensive line did a great job of getting after Patrick Mahone Harry of Osi Odiga. Ziggy, how you doing, bro?

[Ziggy Ansah]

What's good, man? How y' all doing? I'm doing great.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you doing great.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Ziggy, where you at? What.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you say?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Where you at?

[Ziggy Ansah]

I'm at home, bro. Just got done eating Thanksgiving dinner not too long ago.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, man, I ain't even have. Hey, Nick, you know. You know how blessed you are to have Thanksgiving dinner. I had three. I had three hot dogs today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, wow.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Hey, no, I'm spoiled, bro. I don't know how long I've been saying it. Probably last two years since my mom moved in with me, and she been on the ones and twos in the kitchen, and I'm not gonna stop saying it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What was. What was what? We have typical Thanksgiving.

[Ziggy Ansah]

It was straight Nigerian food, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, so fufu.

[Ziggy Ansah]

A goosey jollof. Rice. Rice and stew off. Okay. Suya. The whole nine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. So that's. That's a. That is a typical Nigerian.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thanksgiving.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So y' all had no turkey, no. No dressing, no Mac and cheese. None of that. Or. That was in addition to.

[Ziggy Ansah]

No, no, that was. It was. It was a straight Nigerian food.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's not a part of our culture.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's not a part of our culture.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ziggy.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You know, you know, you know, you know, I was. I'm a Nigerian.

[Ziggy Ansah]

I did not.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, I'm 82% Nigerian, man. You know what?

[Ziggy Ansah]

You. What? You got that off 23andMe, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I did my ancestry. I was. I was above 95% Nigerian every day.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Hey, they're giving out too much sauce on the ancestry, bro. I feel like everybody claims that. I've heard a lot of claims. I don't. I'm. I can't even verify.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

So now you can verify. You know how you can verify with me? I'm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna give.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I'm tell you something only you'll know. Maybe the chat might know. Unless you're Nigerian, you wouldn't know. You know, I was. I'm the leader of the Yahoo boys.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Yahoo boys.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See? Yeah, yeah. Don't worry about it.

[Ziggy Ansah]

No results back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The def. Defensively, the last three games, you guys have stepped up you had back to back game winning play sacks against the Eagles and the Raiders and the defensively, I think it was you guys that really set the tempo today. Look, Dak, with those weapons they have, you know, they're going to do what they need to do.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Yeah, they've been like that all year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But 500 yards, we can't give up 300 yard passing, we can't give up 200 yards rushing. You guys have done a great job over the last three weeks of pulling your weight. What was the mindset? What was said? Was anything said that says, hey guys, hey, look, if we're going to turn this thing around and get going in the right direction, we're going to have to pull our weight. What was said, what was done, what changed?

[Ziggy Ansah]

I mean, definitely been rocking with the defense, just telling us like, yo, like telling everybody, every time I caught up, I'm like, or when I do call it up or when I talk, I'm just like, bro, we have the guys in the room for the job. Like, this defense is way better than what we've been putting on tape. You know what I mean? As far as like the first, first part of the season, you know, and just knowing that like coming off the bye week, especially in November this month is crazy, you know, we gotta lock in, we gotta handle business because we don't have any time to. Everything that we want is still in front of us, but we have to have a very heightened sense of urgency to be able to have the control of our destiny. And the offense has been rolling. We've been having one of the most explosive offenses in the league all year. So just knowing like, we got to be able to contribute and we got to be able to hold it down because if we do, we get the ball back to the offense as much as possible. We're going to give ourselves chances to, to win these games and, and go down this stretch and have the type of games that we want to have, you know, and then also just coming off of the loss of our brother Marshawn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Knowing that we, we have to honor him with the way that we play, you know, and just, and just taking him with us moving forward and asking ourselves, how is he going to approach the game, you know, and, and taking that same approach and just honoring him that way with how we play on the field.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead, Ocho.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I'm going to say, you know, the good thing about this too is, is for a defense like you guys that have struggled in the past, early in the season, right now is the Perfect time for you guys to be hitting your stride most of the time. Some of the things I always say and Bill Pelletic, his favorite words that he always said during football season is football season doesn't really start until after Thanksgiving. And the fact that you defensively are playing the way you're playing right now, that momentum carries over week to week. That momentum carries over week to week. And with the offense playing the way it's playing right now, being one of the best NFL, there's a very, very good chance y' all could run the goddamn table. And this, this is, this is coming from a football fan and someone who understands the game. When you watch teams like guys that are playing as well as you are right now, man, it's going to be a Super Bowl.

[Ziggy Ansah]

I just know, especially right now, we go look up, because we played three games in 10 days. We're going to play the Lions again on Thursday. Yeah, I just knew this month is. Is a very, very high importance because we look up four games gone like that in. In less than a. Maybe a little over two weeks. And now we're in the back quarter of the season. You know, we have good teams. I'll say the harder stretch with air quotes. Obviously, it's. The league is every given Sunday, but.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Right.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Just knowing, like, these are all very playoff contending teams, teams that were in the championship, whether it be NFC or conference championship or in the super bowl being the Eagles and the Chiefs, like, this is. This is the stretch. And obviously just playing the way we have is building a lot of confidence because the DNA of the team is right. The character of the team is right. You know, So I feel like just being able to execute at a high level, to contribute the effort and the passion that we play with is promising.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I look at you guys, I look at yourself. I look at. You added Quinny, you added Kenny Clark, you brought in Jadavian Clowney, you get Sam Williams back off of the ACL injury. And I look at you guys and the, the. The pressure that you guys can generate, you ended up sacking Mahomes three times. You pressured him more than sufficiently enough. And what has been. What has been your thought process with what you like? Damn, man. Okay, Jerry.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You get Kenny Clark. Yeah. We lost our brother, Michael Parson. We love to have Michael, but we get, we get Quinny, we get, man. We get Kenny Clark. Oh, Jadavian Clowney was the number one overall draft pick at one point in time. Sam's back. You got paid the off season. You got the C on your chest, like your defensive line. And you said it earlier, like, bro, we got the talent in this room to go get this job done and make it easier for our back end.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Yeah. Like, I don't think I've even. Even earlier in the season, like I said, it just didn't compute whether, like, the games that we were putting together and the way that we were playing with was not up to our standard and who I know that we are.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Ziggy Ansah]

So just continue to speak on that. And I feel like getting. Kenny, getting Q has helped out a ton as far as having to see on my chest. I feel like either one of them could. Could easily be a guy that has a C on their chest, so that makes my job that much easier as far as being a leader, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. So now you said, like, okay, you get to sit back and watch this weekend and like, boy, I sure hope somebody take care of this team for us. Hey, come on, somebody beat the Eagles, you know, hey, come on, somebody do something to San Francisco. You get to sit back and watch knowing that you got a game of the utmost importance. Because at the end of the day, Ziggy, it doesn't matter what happens. It only matters what you do. Let's take care of our business, and we'll let the chips fall where we may. Let's not have a slip up and say, man, now we sitting by watching the TV on the last Sunday. The last Sunday in the beginning of January, like, come on, lose. We need this team to lose, man, when we didn't take care of what.

[Ziggy Ansah]

We need to take care. That's. That's honestly, as a competitor, you hate to be in that place, bro. You don't want. You don't want the. To be in the. You want anyone else to be in the driver's seat but yourself, right? You got to handle business.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was impressive. That was an impressive win today. Talk about your quarterback, because I think you. You've been there for. For a while now, and this is as good and that I've seen Dak spin the football and say four or five years. Yeah, yeah, look, he came in and started, you know, he took up for Tony Romo and he's never looked back. But it's hard for me to say that I've seen him throw the football better than what he's throwing it right now. And what he.

[Ziggy Ansah]

I'm tolerating no Dak Prescott slander. I never have to be honest. Even. Even in times when he didn't look great or this and that. I'M like, bro, like, a healthy Dak Prescott is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Okay, okay, Hill. I've been down on that hill since I've been here. I've seen it. You know what I mean? And I, again, not tolerate any Dak Prescott. A lot of times, people that I know around that talk mess, I'll be like, man, you don't need to get a new quarterback. Y' all need to do this, do that. I'm like, who. Who are we gonna get? Who would you rather have? X, Y, Z? Hell, no. Stop talking.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Who else would you rather have?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's not like we can get them. If we could. If you got. If we got who we go get. You're not getting Josh Allen. You're not getting into the top quarterback. So what are you saying? You think there's somebody out there better than Dak that we could actually get?

[Ziggy Ansah]

That's what I'm saying, bro. I'm like, dog, you have no idea.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

They don't.

[Ziggy Ansah]

How risky that conversation is. Like, we have, again, one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Bro, I'm not hearing any of that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And the funny thing about it, Ziggy, you know. You know how it is with people on the outside looking in. They really think replacing quarterbacks is so easy. You look at some of these teams, like, let's say, like the Browns, they haven't been able to find a quarterback in damn near 40 years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

People don't understand. The jets haven't been able to find a consistent quarterback, and damn that who. Since Broadway Joe. People don't understand how difficult it is to have a quarterback. And when you have one that is good, like Dak, you know, despite not having the success that most. When you. When you think about the Cowboys and how much they've won, you know, in the 90s and the fact they haven't done it in so long. Well, hell, having a quarterback like Dak always gives you a chance. Now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It just always.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Isn'T just on him as a team, collectively, as a group. Y' all have to play well to be able to make it back to the. The Graceland like they did back in the 90s. So it's not as easy as, say.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Oh, I'm just doing, like, having a leader like him, bro, to be honest, like, that's someone. For as long as I've been with the Cowboys, that's a. That's the first in the building, last one out of the building type of guy. Like, you know, as a rookie, coming.

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[Ziggy Ansah]

I can honestly say like he's been one of the hardest workers consistently for the five years that I've, that I've been with this team to the point where it's like I just got here. I literally have no excuse as to why I can't find a little bit more to do. Find some type of extra edge or some type of extra work to put in. You know what I mean? He's, he's, he's been putting that in and he's, he's been consistent with that to the point where it just brings everyone else along too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

After that sack last week against the Raiders, you made a hand just like he was calling somebody. What, what was that?

[Ziggy Ansah]

I mean, that's just a situation. The game is on the line. Gotta answer the answer to call.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I'm here. I got him. Yeah, okay. All right, I'll talk to you later.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You mentioned the Marshawn Nealon you, your brother D lineman. He had just scored a touchdown that Monday night game. Seemingly everything was going when you got the call and you heard the tragic news. What was, what, what went through your mind?

[Ziggy Ansah]

Ziggy bro, I mean it was just crazy. Like it was, it was honestly just a lot of shock, you know, follow followed by just crying, like really hit me just. And then processing that, you know, followed by Just like, how are we going to honor him and take care of Marshawn and his family moving forward? How are we going to, you know, come together as a team and lean on each other, and how are we going to get closer from this? You know, I'm just trying to turn that pain into a purpose.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's tough. You. You mentioned it's been a very tough month for you. You. Look, there are plays. There are things that, you know, okay, you might move the game up, you might move the game back. As far as time, considering the situations, weather. There are certain things that are in the playbook, but there's nothing in the playbook when it comes to dealing, like real life. Life and death situation. There is no playbook for that. Yeah, I'm sure you had guys have counselors that you can talk to, but there is. That doesn't happen very often in the NFL, something of this magnitude. And where you really. When they say, you know what? I can count on my brother, I can count on to the net, the man next to me. Where you really and truly Ziggy has to have to count on the man that's next to you because he's going through the exact same thing that you're going through. Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, most definitely. Hey. Hey, Ziggy. I dealt with that. I dealt with that issue, obviously, when I was with the Bangles. I think it might have been. Was it maybe 2009? I don't remember the year we lost. We lost my brother, our fellow receiver, Chris Henry. Chris. Chris Henry had passed away, and that was tough. We had a game that following Sunday. We heard. We. I think we found out about his death. And maybe. Maybe on a. On a Tuesday, it might have been all day or maybe a Monday. We were watching film and we came down out of meetings and they told us, you know, told us, you know, what had happened. And that was one of. One of the worst feelings to have a brother that had been lining up with you week to week to week to week. And obviously he broke his arm and then, you know, three days later, he's gone. Yeah, it was hard to deal with. And, you know, we had our therapist for those that need to, you know, have someone to talk to, to. To let out whatever frustration and tears you needed to and just had that conversation. But, you know, that turning pain into purpose, I like that.

[Ziggy Ansah]

You gotta like. You know what I mean? Like, we. We. Marshan, he was a. He was a bright spot on the team. Like, he was a very loving, energetic guy, and he had a light. So Just continuing to carry. That is just our purpose now. Just carrying his light and taking him with us every single step of the way. And it's not just one week. You know, we're carrying him with us for the rest of our lives.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Zeke, let me ask you this. We're gonna get y' all to this one. I heard a lot of people and I have friends that. That guys that Emmett and I, we came out together. Michael is a good. I know Michael very, very well. And they talk about being a cowboy. What is it like to be a Dallas damn Cowboy, man?

[Ziggy Ansah]

It's amazing. Like, Cowboys Nation is honestly one of the best fan bases in football, you know, that's the reason why it is America's team, you know, and wrapping my head around that took me, like, two away games to realize, like, oh, wow, this is a home game. You know what I mean? It's one of the best places that you could possibly play football, in my opinion. I haven't been anywhere else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ziggy Ansah]

I want to find out about anywhere else, bros. It's been amazing. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, you said that fan base. So obviously when things are not going well and they see you at the grocery store, they see you at the. Get at the gas station or they see you out very pleased with the performance that they're getting.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Let you. Let you post anything. You ain't playing good, bro. Like, oh, my goodness.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're gonna let you know that's why you're not winning. You out here posted on social media, huh?

[Ziggy Ansah]

Yes, bro. All that all day, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You make a. Make a taco.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Like, bro. They just all in the comments. I'm like, man, so you're not even.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, you said your mom moved in with you?

[Ziggy Ansah]

Yeah, she's been with me for as long as I've been in the house. When I. When I decided to actually go ahead and purchase the house, I went and went ahead and made that move.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where did she. What did you bring. Where was she staying before you brought. Moved in with you in Dallas?

[Ziggy Ansah]

She was in Portland, back in my hometown.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, so now. So. So you do. Because I'm. I'm sure that the Cowboys provide breakfast for you. So do you eat before you. Before you get to the stadium or the training facility, or do mom make you breakfast, lunch, and dinner and all that stuff?

[Ziggy Ansah]

I don't even want. Like, she. She came in and she was just helping me with like, organizing any. Any of these little house touches. I'm flip the camera so you could take a look if it'll let me do that. All this, homie stuff that you see around.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, all the.

[Ziggy Ansah]

That stuff from my foundation, but the pictures back there and around right on the side, you know, it was a house.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She made it a home.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Yes. It was just the blank walls. If it was just me up here, bro.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And you got. You got. You got upstairs, boy.

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[Ziggy Ansah]

It's Texas, bro. Well, yes, but, like, Texas, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you get a lot of bang for your bucket. Bang for your bucket. Texas.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Man. Let's move out to Texas, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, unfortunately, we're not gonna be able to do that. O Joe.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Like, bang for your buck.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay. Okay. I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man. Ziggy, thanks for joining us. Congratulations on the last three weeks. You guys have been playing really, really well. Congratulations on the big win today on Thanksgiving. Prayers up to everybody that had to go through what you had to go through over the last 10 days with the Marshall situation. We send our prayers, send our best and our prayers to you and the team. Good luck the rest of the way. And if you guys go ahead and do what you're supposed to do, come back and tell us how you did it. Yes, sir.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Appreciate y'. All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Appreciate you, man.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Yeah. Everybody have a good night. Happy Thanksgiving, by the way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Good night, bro.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Get something other than three hot dogs because that's. Oh, my.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

What?

[Ziggy Ansah]

Someone. So if you're watching this right now, please get Ocho a plate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, not at that time. Or not. He on the east coast tomorrow, bro.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Get some McDonald's.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, I. I couldn't. It was closed today. Ziggy. I had to get on the plane to come to. To come to Baltimore. I just left the Ravens game. You know, we put. We put built ass to the Ravens today. So all I had, three hot dogs. I'm eat. I'm gonna eat when I get back tomorrow to Miami, man.

[Ziggy Ansah]

I heard that, but you need something other than three hot dogs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Congratulations, man. Continued success, man. We'll see you.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Yes, sir. Appreciate y'.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, man. Alrighty.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. The packers beat the Detroit Lions by the score of 31 to 24. Jordan Love become the first Packer quarterback since 1950 with three quarter. With three wins on Thanksgiving, Michael Parsons had himself a day on Thanksgiving. He made life difficult for Jerry Goff and the rest of Detroit offense. Hey Ocho. Two and a half sacks, eight tackles, four quarterback hits and a plethora of pressures. He also made NFL history. He became the first player ever to record Cord 12 or more sacks in each of his first five seasons.

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[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

We talk about consistent, talk about consistent. You know, he's, he's up there. I would, I would love to put him in that consistent level along with, with, with Miles Garrett. You know, obviously Miles probably getting ready to break the sack record. But I don't think people have understand how good Michael Parsons is for one to be able to do it in Dallas. This is what you call a generational talent. A transcending type player where it doesn't matter what team you go to, it doesn't matter what team you go to, it doesn't matter what defense you put them on. The same type production you're still going to get from a player like that. And kudos to him. Again, it's almost mind boggling when you think about what he's been able to do and from a defensive perspective. And Jerry was still willing to let him go because he's still doing the exact same Thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I think he's, he, he, he's looked even better. I mean, you probably have to go back to maybe his rookie season or his second season, but now the impact in which he's playing with. He's closing the lights out on. You know, you saw against the Giants, he ended the night we saw today. Basically kept him out of field, kept him out of the end zone. He's been playing unbelievable football because like I said, he got on the other side, he got Clark on the other side. Wyatt, who unfortunately had that gruesome injury today that he's done for the rest of the year. But defensively, they, they just, they just got weapons, Ocho, and they can put pressure. And when Jordan Love played like he played today, he should have had five touchdowns because he moved outside of the pocket. He hit through the ball in the guy's feet. All he got to do is just set his feet and throw it. That's a touchdown walking touchdown. But he played unbelievable. 18 to 30, 234, four touchdowns, no interceptions, no sacks. Look, Wicks had six for 94 and two touchdowns. Watson, four for 80 and a touchdown. Dobbs, four for 20 and a touchdown. They. Look, he was, he was dealing today. Yeah, but that defense, the packers defense, they did an unbelievable job on sacking. They sacked Jerry Goff three times. They pressured him numerous times. They didn't let Gibbs get loose. He was trying, but it didn't. They did a great job. 30 rushes, 119 yards. Basically like 3.9596 yards per carry. But they didn't let him go crazy. No. And, but Jameson Williams, 7 for 144 in a touchdown. But I know he's beating himself up about that drop because he's, he's probably thinking, man, we could have stayed on the field. We might have got a touchdown instead of having to sell it for a field goal. But I want to say this on you before I turn it over to you, Tesla, on the touchdown that Jameson Williams, you didn't block a soul. You didn't block nobody. I don't know if you didn't charge the night before, but you, I mean, you. Hey, but all the gadget was just malfunctioning. The damn doors wouldn't open. The horn was going off. I was like, son, bro, what the hell are you doing? Oo then it was third. It was. I think it was third down. Third down. They put him in zip motion. The thing that I loved about Mike and, and Gary, when we did something, they, he. They always explained to us why we're doing it.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Doing it? Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They put you in zip motion because the guy you're responsible for is inside, which is the safety coming down. Get your ass down there and block it. That's why they put you in zip motion. Why you think they put you in zip motion? Because they wanted to say, everybody see. Oh, his last name, Tesla. I wonder if he related to Elon Musk. No, it's to get your ass inside so you could block the damn safety. That stuff, the running backboard, no yard game. Yeah, see, that's why. I'm sorry, Chad. That's why I came.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, you know, you know that, that's, that's a nice little headache too now, especially for. For receivers coming down in zip motion to have them come down and crack that safety. Safety. You already understand how physical safeties are, you know, and when it comes, when it comes to small, small receivers, especially like that. Oh, oh, you, you finna come down and block? Who block what? Well, take this headache with you. Take this headache with you because that's.

[Ziggy Ansah]

What I'm gonna get.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You think you finna get in my way and get in the way of me making this goddamn tackle? Everything about safeties is based on physicality. They enjoy contact, they welcome contact receivers. Most of them depending on your side, depending on the style of player you are, you shy away from that. So when it comes to personnel and decisions you make and what, what receivers you put in zip motion to go get that safety, I'm sure you have receivers you can use specifically for a play like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's Ocho. But the thing is, those safety today ain't like the safety that when you played and when I played, there ain't no big ass David Fortress, there are no Steve Atwater, there are no Dennis Smith, there ain't no. Really no Thumpers.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They don't even play like that. Them guys trying to get picks, they ain't trying to thump, they ain't trying to bang. Make it your day. Get your damn ass down in that zip motion to dig that safety out. It's 33 the hell.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I, I'm sure the reason why they put you in zip motion, because they know in that formation, in that down and distance in that area of the field, what happens. Yeah, the safety feels coming down. They put you in motion because they know if they left you in your original where you originally lined up, you would never get it. That's why they put your ass in zip motion. But see, you tiptoeing. Cause you really don't want to go in there and get that headache. That's why you in there with bull jabbing. That is exactly why he went in there tiptoeing like he's stepping on hot coals. Get your ass down there and dig that damn safety out so we can get this first down and keep the chain moving.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, listen, the funny thing about it is I. I've been in that situation before. I've been in that situation when we played goddamn. We played goddamn the Broncos.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And guess who the safety was. Goddamn John Lynch. What is John lynch known for?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, John lynch gonna throw up hell out you.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Now listen. And they, they got me. They got my, they got my, my, my split condense all the way goddamn down. And John looking at me smiling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, hey. We play, we play, we play. Philly, who is the goddamn safety that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wore number 20B dog?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And they got me. They got my, my split condensed to my dig to safety out. Dig who with what shovel? Man, if y' all don't get me, but if you don't get me up out of this and put TJ in that goddamn position.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The way I looked at it, I know if I ran the slot that route, if I ran some over the middle, you're gonna try to turn my head off. And the thing is, back then safeties wouldn't try to dodge, you see, like these safeties now try to olay you. They ain't trying to take. They ain't really trying to thought like that anyway. But back then, they'll say to them, big ass safety wasn't dodging nothing. They tried to put the helmet right under your damn chin, right through you. I said, well, okay, well, we both about to get knocked out because I'm damn sure try to put. We're gonna be like two rams. You trying to put your helmet on my chin? I'm trying to put my helmet on your chair. Guess what's gonna happen, Ocho? Wow.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, see, See, you could do that. I, I wasn't, I was, I wasn't built like that, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I would have been like you. You, Ocho, you know, because if you don't, I, I, I just wanted, I just wanted to know, hey, I'm here. I ain't going nowhere. Yeah, that's how I made the team. I had to block at water and Dennis Nim in practice. They said, damn, we'll see if you will. You block like that against Ronnie Locke? If his ass in the game.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Who going down there with Ronnie?

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[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

The funny thing about it Is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

They put me in there because they knew. They knew I was gonna go. I didn't care.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly. You can't.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Every time I seen Ray, I. I swear to God. We played Ray twice a year for 11 years straight. Anytime Ed Reed would sneak and try to just try to shoot, shoot together.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Who you think the next person was for me on. On the crack toss was Ray.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I lost every time. I didn't care.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, John, you want me to get John Lynch? Marvin? Okay. Oh, B dog this week?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, cool. Hold on.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Donovan, Darius. Okay, cool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And it's not Ocho. It's not like we're gonna run that play five, ten times a game.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

One time.

[Julian Edelman]

That's it.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

One time, and that's it. And you know what? I lost every time, and I'm not ashamed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you was willing to go down there and say, hey, I'm not afraid. But that's. That's the attitude. You gotta. You, hey, man, you can't go in there like you trying to tiptoe up on. Like you trying to sneak up on somebody. You better hell let him know you coming.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, buddies, it needs to be tossing my ass out the club, man. That used to be funny. Yeah, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, hey, I would look here, you tell me, hey, we ain't gonna run this play but a couple of times. One or two times max. One time on the right side, one time on the left side. I'm good, Ocho. Now, when it came to the safety, obviously I'm more of a safety size than that, a wide receiver. So I'm looking at it totally different. I'm like. I'm clapping my hand. You run this as much as you want to because that means I ain't got to block them big ass dms. I ain't got to deal with Reggie and Bruce Smith. I ain't got to deal with none of Neil Smith. Okay, safety, you got an ass cutting coming, but, man, we played Jacksonville one time and they say, shannon, now we're hoping we get an underfront right, and the tackle can double team the end, push up to the linebacker. He said, but if we get this overfront, that means the end's gonna be in a seven technique. So he gonna be head. He gonna be head up. You. I mean, a slightly inside out. You. I'm gonna need you to watch him. We only gonna run it one time. Oh, so you know, be one time. Count your boy in. Like, yeah. Oh, yo, I'm like, whoa, One time. Ocho showed up. Oh, you don't laugh, Ocho. So, you know, I like. I said, okay, I will do it one time. They say it's only gonna be one time. You know what? I know. TD gonna pick up if I have to go out for a pass play. And TD need to pick up this blitz. I know. Got me, Ocho. 16 power. It's an overfront seven, 10 inside foot. I get it, Mocho.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Walking 10 yards. That'll go Sharpie. That'll go Sharpie. I was like, okay. So in my mind, Ocho, they say we only gonna do it one time, right? They came back to it next series, Ocho. They came back with it again. Ocho. We ran it again. I got it, Ocho. We got three yards, right. Four plays later, oh, y' all came back with it again.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Y' all being greedy now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This man damn near pushed me to the other end zone, Ocho. I. Hey, I got up off the ground. Oh, he didn't have me clock roll, but he was up in the air. I gotta be walked halfway to the sideline. Don't run that mother no more. Don't run it no more.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Hey, you remember. Remember.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hold on. His last name was Griffin. He played. He played. He played safety for the Cleveland Browns, I think. Is it Robert Griffin?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Robert?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, man. Toss crack. Here he go. He coming downhill from. He coming from deep. Carson tossed the ball to Rudy. Rudy running outside. I'm feeling good. Robert ain't looking at me at all. But when I looked up, I was looking out the side of my ear hole.

[Ziggy Ansah]

I would look.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I was looking about the side of my ear hole and thought. Because the one thing I do is obviously when I'm getting ready to make contact, I close my goddamn eyes every time. I don't know how Mike Singletary did it, where his eyes was wide open so he could actually see. He was hidden. But for me, right before contact, I closed my eyes. Man, Robert. Man. Robert hit me. My chin strap. You know, I used to wear my chin strap. One of them loose.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's how I was crying.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Like, I swear for God, my face mask was facing this way where my jaw is in my helmet. I was looking. I could literally look out my ear hole. I'm getting. Trying to get up off out the pile. Everybody piled up on top of me. I'm like, man. I looked at Marvin and Hugh came over. Hugh came over to him and said, don't worry about it. That's a good job. That's all we wanted to do. You did the job.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. And guess what, Ocho? We Get. We get to film study on Wednesday, and they don't never do this. He say Alex Gibb, rest his soul, who was the offensive line coach, he said, I want to show you how you're all pro tight end. What we. How we can count on him. They showed the first one right, moved it the second one, we got three yards. That third one, I didn't know this at the time. I was just. It was just like. I didn't see nothing. You know what I want to say? Don't run this no more. You know, he flipped me off on the sideline. I was so. I was so swollen. I didn't. I don't even remember that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't remember none of that, man. I was so. Boy, look here, Y' all told me I hadn't got my mind made up one time. One time. Yeah. Hell, I block anybody once. He don't know what's coming outside, but Michael Parsons is playing. Unbelievable.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's been everything green man had hoped. Yeah, he could turn the lights out of the building. He's a He. He's. He's tremendous. His first step, he's relentless. Look how many times he gets double team. You better not block it with one guy. You better not.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And the funny thing about it is, even when he gets double teamed, you know who else gets double team a lot? Miles Garrett.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

He gets double team a lot. But the one thing that they're so. They're so good at is the first person doesn't matter because they. Either they don't use it, they're going to use hands and get skinny on them and do whatever they need to do with that second person. Because when they do have that second person, it's always half a man. If that. If. When they get to that second dude, if they not square all the way in front of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, half.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And they just playing half a man up, off. Off that individual. They getting around that every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They chip block. I think it was Fowler that the tight end chipped him and he got off balance and 71 pinned him. And they called holding. That wasn't a holding. That was a pancake.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He got off balance. And you know, if you get off. If them. If them tackles get up in here, it's a rap.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You might stop.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just go ahead and stop and get ready for the next play. Just make. Just. Just do everything you possibly can so he don't pancake you and fall on top of you. But once he get his Hands inside of you. Yeah, on that one. It's a rap from that point on.

[Ziggy Ansah]

But.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I thought Jordan Love played up. And see, this is what gets you. This is what's so frustrating about watching Jordan Love play. And you watch the throws that he's making today. Ocho. And then you. And then you. You. You watch the past couple of games. You're like, yeah, bro, what are you doing?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. He's up and down. He's not consistent. He'll get there. Hey, when you were living in Baltimore, it's my first time. Right. I got a grape soda.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You ever seen a grape soda called poppy?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no, no. That's. That's a new thing. They just. Somebody. This company, they was on Shark Tank, and they just sold that company, I think the Pepsi. They just sold that company to pepsi for like 2 billion or something.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, okay, okay. This is my first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, that's. That's a new. That's a new thing. No, no, no.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, okay. I'm saying I ain't never. Now, I know about check grape soda.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know about check Fanta.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah. I've never seen this before. It's okay. It's. It say it's a prebiotic. What does prebiotic mean? Prebiotic soda.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the ollie. Like Olipop. It's a good for your gut. It's good. You know, it's a probiotic. That's good bacteria for your gut.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Okay.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, okay.

[Julian Edelman]

Okay.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay. Cool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man. And I got off. I got off the. Because. Who was it? Almond Ramon. Ra Got off the. Got me off the hook. Oh. Time for prize pick. Play a fade presented by prize pick. What you call the finish. Four yard short. That hit. AJ Brown more than seven and a half targets. Who do they play?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

The Bears.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They play the Bears. Oh, and Jalen Johnson is back. He just got activated.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Ooh.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey. Jalen Johnson, a real deal. He just. He just can't seem to stay healthy. But when he's playing, you know, he's. He's one. He's one of those that belongs in the top five conversation. But he's not in the conversation because he hasn't been available.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but he.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That type of talent, I like it. I like. I like the seven targets. It just. Is Jalen willing to let that ball go? They did last game. Yeah, he was cooking with goddamn. Goddamn A.J. brown in that. That first half against some damn cowboys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna say yes. I'm going more than seven and a half target. Saquon less than 77 and a half yards. I think the Bears are good. As good at this the rush, aren't they?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Got a good run.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He going left. Less.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Has he had 100 yard season yet?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think he had one.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

God damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. He's had one. Yeah. Yeah. Saquon. Less than 78 yards. I'm gonna say less. Less. Colston Loveland. More than a third. More than 31 receiving yards.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Coasting Loving.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. That's the tight end from Michigan.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, hey. He nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's gonna have more. I'll say. Yeah. I'll say. Gonna have. Hey, yeah. Because I mean, Zach Braun or Blankenship gonna be gardening. I'm gonna say. You know what I'm gonna say. You're gonna have more. More. Luther Burton Jr. Less than 31 receiving yards. They throw the ball to Rome. They throw the ball to DJ and they throw the ball to Love. But they don't really give Burton.

[Ziggy Ansah]

He.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

He nice though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He is. They don't give him the rock, though.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No, not. Not enough. Not enough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna say less. $25 to win. 150. $150. Download the app today. Use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup. Prize picks. It's good to be right. All right, Ocho, it's time to play. Final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Yeah, we ain't going to play nothing. We're gonna get up out here. We ain't about to play by the attack.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, hey, why don't you do me a favor?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, why don't you. Why don't you come on down to Cincinnati, man? We'll show you some good hospitality in two weeks so you can see your Ravens lose in person.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I'm going somewhere, I'm gonna go to Baltimore. I'm gonna go to Denver. I ain't going to Cincinnati. Cause y' all ain't got no good restaurants and I don't want to eat no chili.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Have you. Hey, hold on. Can I tell you something? Have you ever heard of Jeff Ruby Steakhouse? What you talking about? We don't got no good restaurant?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jordan say it's good and terrible.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Jeff Ruby's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Nah, he didn't say that. But Jeff Ruby. But the number one steakhouse in the world now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lord, stop it. Aaron Owens Burrow come back now. The Bengals defense want to be the 85 Bears. They look good tonight.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Me plus me. But say I take it back. CD doesn't suck nobody. He just had A bad game. Triple X Cup Saturday for the Bengals win. Ocho can keep that 5,900. No. Just kidding. BTA. Real wolf. The facts as Ravens. I'm not mad at the loss. I'll be ready to see if that same energy is displayed on the 14th at Paycorp. I'll say it for everyone. I don't think anyone can cover Chase. No, you just got to make it difficult. I mean, you just try to make it as difficult as you possibly can. Give me as many different looks as you possibly can. Dr. Frank L. Bellam said. I hope everyone had good Turkey Day. Mine was cowboy great. Yeah. Yeah. Doc, you've been feeling real good these last three weeks. I'm gonna need Detroit to do something about that next week, though.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, you know what I'm gonna do for you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And not only I'm gonna pay you a 50. I'm pay you. I pay you 5,900 early if you come to the game, right? I want to take it to this place down there in Cincinnati. You talking about they ain't got no good food? They got. I want to take it to the steakhouse, right? I'm gonna take it to Jeff Ruby's, right? Then I want you to go check my homeboy. My homeboy Rico, right? He got a. He got a funnel cake. You like funnel cakes?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You'll enjoy it. You know, funnel is called Funnel cake Island. We'll go down there, sit down there, you know, have a quick funnel cake, and we could talk about the game. Sch. Schematics.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And why y' all gonna lose.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No Mr. Incredible One. Santa is real. Chad paid Unc his money, and the Bengals beat the Ravens. Only one is true. But Unk better not say foot or ball tonight. They got us.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all got us. Yeah, but that's all right.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

We're gonna have y' all in two weeks, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, that ain't gonna happen. Cal Sims. Ocho should have done nightcap from Bingo's locker room. Have every Bingo tail, not to say foot or ball. Oh, tell l. Jack. No food for anybody. Yeah. Hey, the way they played tonight, they should have ate before they. Before they went to the game. Cause if you ain't eat before you went to the game, nah, you ain't eating. Throw them plates in the trash. JM 42069. Who they? Ocho said BTA Jamal. 87, 86. Your joint love narrative is very surface level and wrong. You are repeating what you've already said. I challenge you to go Watch the two games ago with seven drops and only three picks all year. Jordan Love has been inconsistent. I've been watching every game because we talked about the Packers. Every game. What about the overthrows? See, I noticed you just said about what the receivers didn't do. But what about what he hasn't done? Appreciate you watching, Jamal. Yeah. Brandon Martinez. Cowboys beat the previous super bowl champs back to back. Crazy work, ain't it? Just for the playoffs. This is for 94. Let's go. We need that. Do we need this? More than anyone. They're playing unbelievable. Dak is throwing the ball well. And the defense have gotten better and better each week. And when they need to make plays, the defense is coming up big. Gotta give him credit. Give credit where credit is due, Alan. Erscore lmh. Jsn. Goat. Jsn is playing unbelievable. He's putting together an unbelievable season.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Unbelievable season. And it's so funny, you know, you notice. You notice something how hard it is for receivers to be able to repeat, you know, what they've done the last year. So many things have to go right. Jamar Chase winning triple crown last year. Now this year, out the blue, JSN is having a crazy season with a chance to break, you know, Calvin Johnson's record.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Ah, man. It's funny now with the way things are going, I can't wait to see who's going to be the receiver next year to emerge and do something like this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know. Jealous. Say, y' all better go get me a quarterback. Y' all gonna have people thinking I can't play no more. That ain't me.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Deny just said tonight. Aunt can't say foot or ball, right? Ocho. Ocho finally got one right.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Goddamn right. Hold on. I've been right all season long. I've been right all. I've been right all season long, baby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Patel rough with terrible all day. No consistency at all. Especially past interference call. And the hole and call on John Simmons was a pancake. I agree. I. I mean it. I mean, it's so. It varies. I mean, it seemed like they were calling a bunch of PIs in the. In the. What is that the Kansas City Cowboy game?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Seemed like just like, say, like, damn. Every time the Cowboys went down, like one drive, it was CD got like two PIs. Pick got a pass in the field like, well, damn. But, hey, Don Mars 58. Bo gonna be playing his first super bowl this year. That'd be real nice. Broncos and Subo Hunt. Hey, last time the Subo was in San Francisco within Levi's Stadium. Just saying. I'm just saying.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hold on. It was the Broncos and Panthers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, I. I can see, I can see the Broncos and Bengals.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can see that they both in the afc, so one of them would have to lose in the championship game.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Well, I guess that. I guess y' all won't be there then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We already know y' all ain't gonna be that. Oh, yo, but that's nothing here. How about them cowboy? Batman's lost son. Batman's lost son. How about them Cowboys? Kyphen Vegas says Bingo's playoff chance are plus 5,900. They got no chance. It's your boy, Trash Gaming. Greatest sports talk show in the game. Thank you. Appreciate that. Andrew. Andrew Stinney. Hey, Nightcap fam. Love you guys. I was wondering if you could shed some light on what's happening at halftime as players in the difference when you're winning and losing. What was your game? Halftime routine. Thanks. It didn't matter. I mean, by the time we got there, they're already on the board. What we, what, what was we gonna do in the second half? What they did, what, what we did, some of the things that we did in the first half and what was their adjustment to it? And we think these are the plays that we're gonna come out with in the second half. And this is what we think their adjustments gonna be. You're trying to get in there, you're trying to get, you know, fluids in. You try to get oranges, you know, you eat a banana or something like that. That's. That's basically it. But by the time we got down, there are already plays drawn up on the blackboard. Plays that we did in the first half that were good, maybe something like, okay, we're going to run these same plays, but just different formation. What we think their adjustment is going to be, and this will be our, our adjustments. Offer their adjustments. So, you know, no panic. I mean, obviously, you know, if you're playing well, you feel good about where you are, you don't want to let up. But if you're playing bad, you're like, that's not like us. We're beating ourselves. There's not doing. They're not doing anything that we haven't. That we didn't practice against or we didn't see on tape. Dak A mvp, though. We've already seen the three regular season win a playoff games, then talk. Well, he's playing well. Like I said, the only person that I think is playing better than Dak right now I can definitively say is Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford playing better than everybody right now. Logic Q6, Uncle Nocho. Getting close to 2 million subs. Need to make that push before it's 2026. Yeah, we trying, bro. We trying. That's a. Hey, tell family, friends and loved ones we at 1.90.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So we're a hundred thousand. We're a hundred thousand show. But we. Hey, we trying 2 million. That'd be huge, man. Be huge. Samuel Ramire. 6704. How were them Dry ass glizzies Ocho.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, they were good. They was good. It was good. One thing about it, you know, I'm not shame. I'm one of the few people who don't. Who don't fall victim to the societal pressures, you know, about eating hot dogs, about eating bananas publicly. It's something that I will do, that I did when I was a child. And that's not changing. That's not changing. I know other people aren't comfortable, you know, within themselves to be able to do so, but I'm one that just doesn't care.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nor should you. I just don't eat hot dogs.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

But you don't know what you're missing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

So you didn't eat beanies and weenies when you was little?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, we. We had poking beans.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, same beans. And we need pork and beans.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. You know, but we didn't add no extra beanie. We didn't add no extra weenies. Whatever's in that can, that's what was that was in that pot.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Well, you ain't cut up the hot dogs in it. Oh boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No plug 602 says per character, lifting some weight, saying keep up reckless Tre says slow feet don't eat. Can't coach or teach, quick feet. You can't cannot Philly talk with pa. This, this cowgirl team beat him A homes team at his lowest with mediocre wide receiver, corner play, 14 flags one by three. Mahomes at his lowest. Better than that. I don't know about his lowest, but Mahomes is still Mahomes. You know, he's over 3, 000 yards passing, if I'm not mistaken. 20. He had what, 22 touchdowns passing, seven interceptions. I think he has another three touchdowns rushing. I mean, he's playing. Look, you have to look. People measure Mahomes at his lowest against everybody else's best. Because if you measure him home at his best. What are we talking about here? What are we talking about?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Not Even the conversation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but you know, look, guys are playing better. Drake May's playing unbelievable. Josh Allen is. Is throwing and running for a bunch of touchdowns. Matthew Stafford is off the. Off the Richter scale. Dak is playing unbelievable. Jalen hurts. But right now, if you say who. Who's playing the best quarterback in football, I would say Matthew Stafford. Yeah. Vice. 187. 187. Are the refs done by trying to change narratives on the Chiefs? Number 50 has no offensive line, running back. Team still need to beat them. Can y' all stop whining now so we can watch the goat number 15 play football or. Nah. Yeah, I was. Look, and then they threw two flags and that was going to be on the Cowboys. And they say they picked them up saying there's no flag on the play. Hold on. When Jake Ferguson jumped in that kettle, I thought you couldn't use props. Ocho, that's a flip.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's that. Zeke Ezekiel got fined for that. He gonna get fined now if they didn't throw this flag.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's unsports, Black. Just like Jameson Williams when he did the fireman. He jumped on the. On the. On the goal post. Huh? They threw a fit. That's unsports. Like penalty. I thought he said you couldn't use props.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, that was a problem.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, I understand it's gonna. It's gonna be there. It starts being there at Thanksgiving and it stays throughout Christmas. I get all of that, but it is a prop. And if you can't use props, you can't say, well, that's all. That's a staple at Cowboys game during this time of year. It is. And the Cowboys do a great job. They're very philanthropic and they're great in the community, but it's still a damn prop. And it should have been a 15 yard penalty. Montavious heard 719 said, I want them same three actors you have for my boy CD Sunday night when you tried to pile on him. He had a bad game. CD is elite. Everybody know it. I didn't say he wasn't. But did he drop those passes?

[Ziggy Ansah]

He did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what we supposed. So what we supposed to do? So if a guy plays bad, we're supposed to overlook the bad and only highlight the good? Because when he was going for 16, 1700 yards, we talked about man CD making plays. CD making plays. But we're just supposed to overlook that because he's a great. It's okay. We're not trying to undo anything any great player has done, but it would be disingenuous for Ocho and I not to highlight that cd. Dropped a bunch of passes on Monday night.

[Julian Edelman]

He did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean Sunday night. He did. Everybody saw it. You make it seem like we're making it up. He dropped those. The ball hit him in the ball beat him up. Today he made every catch that was catchable. That happens. Quarterback. Hey. Lamar Jackson did not play well tonight. That doesn't mean he's not a two time league mvp. That doesn't mean that he hasn't been a Pro bowl and an all pro player. That just means tonight and in sports, you have to update your resume. Vice 1-877-187 Every damn drive that got help. Y' all out here on all these TV shows talking about Dak outplay Mahone Mofo got two number one receivers that needed help every drive. I'll play who Dak is played. Would I take Dak over Mahomes? No. But to say Dak didn't play well is just not true. Yeah, played extremely well.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Very well. And stop using the ref as an excuse.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I think the thing is that for the longest time that's what people have been saying about Kansas City, the Chiefs.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Everything's been the Chiefs. Everything's been the ref. The refs bailed him out. The refs doing this. The ref, this. No, no, not he. Not. He's saying it now. They saying it for the Cowboys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. Jason Zeldorf. 7080 with the Kansas City Swifties losing to the Cowgirls. I don't see them going to the playoffs. There's a great chance they missed the playoffs this year. Yeah, they're gonna basically have to win out and see if 11 and 6 is good enough to get them into the playoffs. Brian BB Gaming. I think we're talking about Kansas City. I think after the Bengals bung bung hole slapping the Ravens, it confirmed Ocho may have elite ball knowledge we haven't seen before. He got lucky. Like he say, every squirrel found a nut here and there.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No, that. That wasn't luck.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Luck is.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Luck is playing a lotto and picking the right numbers. That's luck. Me telling you that the Bengals gonna be the Ravens is pure ball knowledge and that's what I have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You said they're gonna make the playoff last year.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Who said that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I don't remember last year. It's 2025.

[Ziggy Ansah]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Braxton, strictly. Hey, Nightcap. I appreciate y' all do so much love. Are you going to to be near Columbus, Ohio so I can purchase a bottle and Possibly get you to sign it. If not, how could I get you to sign it? Go Browns. I don't even know. We're not in Ohio yet, are we? Yeah, that's on the. That's on the thing, though. It's on the docket, bro. So we're coming in the next six months, we're gonna be in Ohio because that's on one of the. We're talking to distribution in Ohio, so I'm sure Columbus, probably. Columbus. Nah. What's Cleveland? Cleveland, Cincinnati. More. More than likely would be the places that we go. I am King Rail 47. Bingo. Kittens ain't going nowhere. Patriots to the Subo. Come on home, Ocho.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

All right, all right. Keep that same energy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now we are Armando 1154. Ocho. Who cares about them Bengals? Pay uncle is 5900. It's time for your palm olive to grease a bubble bath. Chuck Smith iv. I saw Ocho at the game, and he helped me with my woman's woman problem. He helped me get her back.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Before the game, on the sideline, maybe like, hey, Ocho, man, I'm having. I'm having a problem. I have woman problems. See, I'm telling you. We need to have a therapy session for people that's having issues, you know, in relationship. So me and him, we made a video together.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all did?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, I made a video with him so he could. Listen, miss, I'm sure y' all going through y' all problems, you know, but whatever. It's time to come back home now. If we have to go looking for you, it's gonna be a problem. That was it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Simple therapy session. I'd be on the couch talking to myself. Yeah, man. Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, I say, a lot of people say, well, how y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

How y' all gonna give people advice, you know, if y'.

[Ziggy Ansah]

All.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

If y' all don't have successful relationships, well, those are. Those are the people you want to talk to, not the people that. Yeah, exactly. So who's better than that? And then the people that have been together for, you know, 30, 40 years, they gonna lie to you. They gonna tell you the truth. They gonna tell you the truth. They're gonna be saying all this, right stuff on how we did it. Come on, Man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dale Dundee, 74. What were your favorite, at least favorite stadiums to play in and why? The vet in Philly was awful. The Astrodome in Houston was terrible. Cleveland Municipal Stadium. Cincinnati was a drag, too.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Damn. That's messed up, huh? Well, my. My favorite place. My favorite place to play in. I love hostile environments. I was very comfortable in chaotic atmospheres. Was. Was Oakland. Oakland. Oakland was crazy. I, I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Once they were past baseball season.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, hey. New goddamn fans in Oakland. In the black hole, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're in the same division in Oakland. I played it when they was at the Coliseum.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They, they, they're on another level. They're different.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah. Outside of that, my favorite places to play, man, obviously. Playing. Playing in at highs field against the Steelers or playing at MT Bank Stadium, man, against the goddamn Ravens.

[Ziggy Ansah]

Boy.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, there was a joy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. That was. But the vet, the house of pain, the Astrodome, Cleveland, Cincinnati, man. And I hated playing anywhere that had a baseball infield, you know, because you get there September baseball is still going on. Chargers and the Red and the Raiders, Oakland. Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And I play. I played it both of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Miami too.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Did y'. All, did they just play in y' all stadium?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That would have been Joe Robbie back then, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know who had that? We had it.

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Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know how I forgot the Rockies played in Mile High for you.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, for real?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So I hated that too. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap as you watch the Ravens go down to the Bengals 32 to 14. But anyway, we're not, we're not here to talk about that. We already talked about that. We talked about that enough. Thank you guys for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Thank you guys for joining us. Hopefully you were surrounded by family, friends and loved ones. And you ate until your heart was content. Me, I might go in there and get me a little something. It's 11 o'. Clock. I probably won't go to bed till about 12:30. I'm your favorite oak shadow sharp. That is my partner and co host. Old gloating ass, Bald head, Milk dud head. Ass look like shaved monkey nuts. Chad Ocho, Seco Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button. Do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from. It's night like this that we really, really appreciate your support. Thank you guys. Your support means more to us than you could possibly put in the words. Everything that you see behind us, you see all these awards that we've won, the places, the heights that we've gone, that's all because of you. We get 30, 40, 50, 000 people in the chat to hear Ocho and I talk about the games and tell stories and share stories and so we can't thank you guys enough. Again, thank you for your support and your continued support. If you're looking to check out Shay by Laportier and you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. Hello, head over to laportierconac.com and order you a bottle or two. Is the best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it, try it for yourself and I'm sure you'll be convinced as many have become is the smoothest best tasting cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Check out my media company page on all of his platforms. That's Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat again. The Cincinnati Bengals keep keep their slim playoff hopes alive thanks to a 3214 victory over the Baltimore Ravens. Thanks to five turnovers, they did an excellent job for his four fumbles and he picked pick Lamar Jackson as they win 32 to 14. The Dallas Cowboys keep their playoff hopes alive thanks to a 3128 victory Dak over 350 yards passing. Mahomes. They overcame four Mahomes touchdown but it wasn't enough as the Dallas Cowboys win 3128 and the Green Bay packers started it off. They moved their record to 8, 31 thanks to a 3124 victory over the Detroit Lions. Detroit falls to 7 and 5. Michael Parsons, 2 1/2 sacks runs his total to 12 and now he's the first player in NFL history to start his career with 12 sacks. 12 seasons of consecutive sacks. 125 consecutive seasons of 12 sacks or more. That completes this episode of Nightcap with We're back tomorrow night the Eagles take on the Chicago Bears and I think there's a basketball game we might want to talk about here and there. So but we're back tomorrow night. We're back Friday night, Saturday night and Sunday night and you know, as usual we're back and be back again on Monday. So guys, thank you for your support. Thank you for joining us tonight. Hopefully you had a very thank a very thankful and blessed Thanksgiving and we'll see you tomorrow. I'm Unk He's Ocho Nightcap who they.

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