Nightcap - Hour 2: Dak’s season-ending injury, Allen fighting for MVP, Ja’Marr Chase frustrated

Summary

Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay Episode: Nightcap - Hour 2: Dak’s Season-Ending Injury, Allen Fighting for MVP, Ja’Marr Chase Frustrated
Release Date: February 4, 2025
Host: NFL Legend Shannon Sharpe
Guests: Ocho Cinco

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1. Dak Prescott’s Season-Ending Injury

Timestamp: [15:05] - [17:47]

Shannon Sharpe and Ocho Cinco delve into the implications of Dak Prescott’s partially torn hamstring, which is expected to sideline him for approximately four months. They discuss the Cowboys' decision not to place Prescott on injury reserve and instead trading away a fourth-round pick despite knowing his injury status.

Notable Quotes:

• Shannon Sharpe (16:37): “Dak will meet with the specialist in New York, but the Cowboys doctor already believed he needs surgery that would sideline him four months.”
• Ocho Cinco (16:36): “I hope he heals fast. I hope he heals fast. I'm definitely not. I just want him to work himself back into shape and be able to throw the ball.”

Discussion Points:

• The severity of Prescott’s injury and its impact on the Cowboys' season.
• Critique of the Cowboys’ management decisions regarding Prescott’s injury.
• The broader implications for the team's performance without their star quarterback.

2. MVP Race: Josh Allen vs. Lamar Jackson

Timestamp: [30:26] - [33:16]

The conversation shifts to the ongoing MVP race, with Josh Allen emerging as a frontrunner over Lamar Jackson. Shannon highlights Allen's impressive statistics and his rise in the betting odds, while Ocho anticipates Jackson's comeback against teams less accustomed to defending him.

Notable Quotes:

• Shannon Sharpe (30:26): “Josh Allen has officially overtaken Lamar as the MVP front runner. Josh Allen is now a plus 150… Lamar Jackson is now a plus 200.”
• Ocho Cinco (31:41): “I'm going to come out and he's going to have one hell of a day, do some crazy stuff on the ground, do some crazy stuff in the air… back at the number one spot to an MVP, I guarantee you.”

Discussion Points:

• Josh Allen’s performance metrics and his ascent in MVP betting odds.
• Lamar Jackson's potential to reclaim his position by exploiting defenses unfamiliar with his playstyle.
• The strategic outlook for both quarterbacks in the remaining season.

3. Aaron Rodgers’ Controversial Tenure with the Jets

Timestamp: [45:34] - [55:53]

A significant portion of the discussion focuses on Aaron Rodgers' strained relationship with the New York Jets. Sharpe criticizes Rodgers' attitude and performance, questioning his fit with the team and his future in the NFL.

Notable Quotes:

• Shannon Sharpe (46:17): “Aaron Rodgers is an arrogant, condescending flippant... He can no longer be an MVP.”
• Ocho Cinco (51:42): “Aaron Rodgers... abuses that privilege and the power that he has because of what he's done in the NFL.”

Discussion Points:

• The Jets' management decisions regarding Rodgers and the fallout from his behavior.
• Comparison of Rodgers to legendary quarterbacks like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.
• Speculation on Rodgers’ potential future moves and his impact on any new team.

4. Daniel Jones’ Waiver from the Giants

Timestamp: [59:44] - [63:09]

The hosts discuss Daniel Jones being waived by the New York Giants. They analyze his desire to join a playoff-contending team and the realistic opportunities for him to secure a backup role in such environments.

Notable Quotes:

• Shannon Sharpe (60:00): “Daniel Jones wants to go to a playoff team where he would be involved in big games rather than going to a needy team not in playoff contention.”
• Ocho Cinco (62:39): “He wants to be somewhere where maybe he's not going to be the starter. I want to be somewhere where I can be a backup if need be.”

Discussion Points:

• The challenges Jones faces in finding a suitable team after being waived.
• The strategic advantages and disadvantages of joining a playoff-contending team as a backup.
• Potential teams that could benefit from Jones’ experience and presence.

5. Ja’Marr Chase’s Frustration with the Panthers

Timestamp: [21:19] - [42:30]

While Ja’Marr Chase is mentioned in the episode title, the transcript primarily focuses on the broader context of player frustrations and team dynamics. The discussion highlights Chase’s struggles with his team's performance and the overall defensive shortcomings.

Notable Quotes:

• Shannon Sharpe (22:31): “Saquon was drug tested after reverse Ochoa explained why the NFL does this to people at home.”
• Ocho Cinco (33:22): “He doesn’t take the game as serious as Tom... Nothing about you play...”

Discussion Points:

• While specific frustrations of Ja’Marr Chase are not deeply explored, the conversation touches on the general sentiments of players feeling unsupported by their teams’ strategies.
• The impact of team performance on star players' morale and performance.

6. General NFL Analysis and Critique

Timestamp: [08:14] - [44:38]

Throughout the episode, Sharpe and Ocho Cinco critique various aspects of NFL gameplay, including offensive strategies, quarterback protections, and team management decisions. They emphasize the importance of leadership, team chemistry, and effective coaching.

Notable Quotes:

• Shannon Sharpe (09:00): “They gambled, hey, hey gm, how that looking now? Cause you can run the ball fairly well.”
• Ocho Cinco (44:38): “No disrespect, but the tackle play is very bad.”

Discussion Points:

• The effectiveness of offensive and defensive strategies employed by teams.
• The role of coaching decisions in player performance and team success.
• The importance of protecting key players, especially quarterbacks, to maintain team stability.

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Conclusion

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe and Ocho Cinco provide an in-depth analysis of current NFL issues, focusing on significant player injuries, the competitive MVP race, and contentious team-quarterback relationships. Their candid discussions offer listeners a blend of expert insight and critical perspectives on the league's ongoing narratives.

Notable Overall Quote:

• Shannon Sharpe (54:54): “And people like, oh, he got money. He changed. No, money doesn't change you. It makes you more of what you already are.”

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For More Episodes: Stay tuned to Club Shay Shay on your preferred podcast platform to hear more from Shannon Sharpe as he sits down with top athletes, celebrities, and influencers to unpack their journeys, challenges, and triumphs.

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[Ocho Cinco]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cuz that's the one thing I like about football. It's not like when you play one on one. You play make it take it. I make a basket, I get to take it back out again. Now in football, I score a touchdown, I kick it off, you can score two.

[Ocho Cinco]

But they they they they they not going to have they they ain't gonna have nobody. Ain't nobody nobody else to fire. Ain't nobody else to blame. You fire Salah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See the thing is like you got to be careful. You got to be careful when you do things for the wrong reasons. See a lot of a lot of this has to do and a lot of this has to do with him being mad at the packers for drafting Jordan Love. So I'm going to go show you that I still got something left. Yeah, if you're not Ocho, you've heard me say it a lot. If you're not careful, you'll become the very thing you despise the most in a person. The guy that preceded him, what did he do? He got mad because they took a quarterback. And where did he go first when he left Green Bay?

[Ocho Cinco]

Same thing. Same, same thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, Devontae Adams had 13 targets. He called six passes for 31 yards. Damn. You probably thinking I could have stayed where I was, did exactly this and kept. I paid the state income tax in Jersey, New York, wherever It is, about 10%. I paid nothing. The state income tax in New York, New Jersey got to be like 10%.

[Ocho Cinco]

10 who? Okay, I catch, I catch all the end of my career. I'll pay you back later.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What state jersey is 10.75. Almost 11. Because he stays in Jersey so we don't have to do New York, but he stays in Jersey. Nobody stays in the city. New York's 11. So he's playing 10, 10, 10.75%.

[Ocho Cinco]

That's crazy. Well, you know how high that is?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hiding. Giraffe. Hoo ha. But here's the thing, Ocho, that's the thing. You just think, See what Peyton. Because remember when Peyton got to Denver, they went 13 3. They won like seven, eight games in a row. Had the number one seed. Baltimore did come in and knock them off in the divisional round. Payton finished second in the MVP voting. The next year they go to the Super Bowl. Payton, they break all the records. Peyton, over 5,400 passing yards, NFL record, 55 touchdowns, NFL record go to the Super Bowl. The following year, Peyton throws 39 touchdowns. We see what Tom does his first year there, so we like, hey, they do it. Those are two natural born leaders. Natural people gravitate towards them.

[Ocho Cinco]

You don't see Aaron as a leader, huh? I mean, just your own personal opinion outside of the dump.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All I, all I know is what? What? What I've. What I've read what I've read with coaches.

[Ocho Cinco]

Okay, I see what you mean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not coach. Excuse me, What I've read when the reports about the CEO, Mark Murphy. Aaron, don't you be the problem. They don't consult with him. They didn't consult with him when they hired. They didn't consult with him when they let somebody go.

[Ocho Cinco]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The mere fact of how he does things When Mike Williams. Oh, I was expecting Mike Williams to do this and he redlined and he. He was supposed to redline. He got.

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Bro.

[Ocho Cinco]

Why would you do that? You can't throw your play under the bus.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why would you do that? Name the time you've ever heard Peyton Manning. Name the time you've ever heard Peyton. Or Tom Brady. Because this is the guy that he wants to be in the category with. When have Tom Brady ever throw somebody under the bus? When does Peyton Manning ever throw somebody?

[Ocho Cinco]

They don't eat out every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They'll eat it and then have the conversation with the guys like, look, you know, I was expecting you to be on the red line. Right. Not run the end cut.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Every chance he get. What does he do? You saw him in Green Bay.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. Hey, speaking of Mike being on the red line, you know they had that exact same play today. Mike. Oh, Mike had just had that exact same play today with the COVID zero. And the corner was sitting there. Squad waiting on the slant, waiting on the pass real quick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Ocho, you can't stand that far inside. You can't give a receiver that cattle pre release to let him just run straight up the field.

[Ocho Cinco]

And he still. He stand in the inside, which made it even worse and pushed him further inside. Yeah, that was a good play. That was a good play by Mike.

[Shannon Sharpe]

These guys here. Oo, these guys are too good if you don't put hands on them.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, but he. Remember it was cover zero. So he was off, huh? Remember he. He was. He was. He was sitting off. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. But Ocho, you can't be that far inside. He was tripping because if he. Think about it, you already two yards inside. If he stem you inside now, you're going to be three to four. You give that guy so much area to just throw the ball. And Russ throws as good a deep.

[Ocho Cinco]

Ball as I call it, like they call it, a little moon ball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ocho Cinco]

Down in the bucket. You ain't got no chance to recover. I don't care how fast you is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, you can't come from that. And you get. He give him a big target because he got all this to drop it up. He can't. He ain't got to drop it down. What we call trying to. You don't have to drop it down chimney. I got a big old radius that I can throw it into. I can throw it here, I can throw it here. I can let you catch it over here because I'm not worried about the DB is so far behind. And then if I throw it over his shoulder. I can use my body, Ocho. He got to come through me to break the play up. Yeah, but I. I don't think it. I don't. I don't. I don't know. Maybe jets fans are surprised, but I'm not.

[Ocho Cinco]

I. Hell, I'm surprised. Honestly. I thought. I thought. I thought things would have been different. I was giving Aaron Rodgers his praise for what I felt he was going to be able to do on the field. I didn't really care about the stuff he was doing off of it. You know, do whatever the hell you want to off of it. But I'm thankful he beat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He has.

[Ocho Cinco]

I'm expecting him to look like maybe not the Aaron Rodgers the bold. Just give me 50% of that. Give me 50, 50, 60% of the old Aaron Rodgers. And I thought, you know, the jets, they gonna be on one. They gonna be fired.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, he talking about. He talking about cayenne water. How'd that work out for him today?

[Ocho Cinco]

Cayenne?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, cayenne water. Cayenne pepper, water and lemon. Oh, it's the fountain of youth. Even had the kicker that drilled a field go. Oh, yeah, this thing is working, bro. That stuff don't work. Look, I understand all that cleanse and you go to these holistic places and they give you all that stuff that. I get it.

[Ocho Cinco]

I ain't never heard no cayenne. I know about the Porsche. Cayenne.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cayenne. Cayenne pepper. They put cayenne pepper and they put water lemon. I mean, what. What. What. What was. He had and somebody. It's the five. Discovered the fountain of youth, bro. Clearly you don't watch yourself play. Cause ain't nothing useful about you. Ain't nothing. I'm not breaking a new chat. Do y'all think there's anything youthful about Aaron Rodgers play? Does he cayenne pepper water. Does he move like he once did? Absolutely not. Bryce Young got the job during in Germany. Ojo against the Giants. Giants currently hold the number one pick in the NFL draft. Ocho should the Giants draft Shador.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, I tweeted that earlier.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Prime ain't gonna let that happen.

[Ocho Cinco]

I tweeted that earlier today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Prime ain't gonna let that happen.

[Ocho Cinco]

You don't think so?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope.

[Ocho Cinco]

Have the Giants ever drafted a black quarterback before?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell no. Hell no. Hell no. Yes.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, the way you said it, that was funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bryce Young 15, 25, 126 a touchdown. Cuba Hubbard had an outstanding day. 28 rushes, a buck 53 and a touchdown. They ran the ball 32 times for a buck 88. Daniel Jones was 22 of 37, 190 and two interceptions. But it was Tracy that fumbled in overtime that led to the game winning heel hole by the Carolina Panthers. Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they talking about, you know, they're going to evaluate the quarterback position for. Evaluate what? Yeah, they tell me they're going to evaluate. They're open to making changes at the quarterback. It's too late now. Y'all might as well go ahead and stick with Daniel Jones.

[Ocho Cinco]

You know he's saying that to save his job. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He can't save it. It's over now.

[Ocho Cinco]

Well, hey, you might as well make a change. Who. Who's the backup? Tyrod.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Tyrod, wait.

[Ocho Cinco]

I got the wrong New York team. I'm tripping.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, Ojo, it's. You might as well just. You know what? You got a little might.

[Ocho Cinco]

Well put him. Hey, you talking about you evaluating them. You want to give yourself a chance to win, a chance to do something. I mean, who's the back. Who's the backup in New York anyway?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who's the backup quarterback? It's somebody known too. Drew Locke. Right. Okay. Drew Locke.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I mean, look, they. They gamble. Hey, hey, gm, how that looking now? Cause you can run the ball fairly well. I mean, Porter Jr. Runs the ball really well. Singletary, he gets your quarterback. No team is good enough to overcome poor quarterback play. Not for. Not. Now, you might want a game or two because we saw tonight Jerry Goff turned the ball over five times and his team came back.

[Ocho Cinco]

But you also. Other teams don't have that kind of high power octane offense either.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. No, they don't. The Giants currently hold the. The number one pick. I stay in that position. But they have a new coach next year. Dak Prescott is planning to undergo season ending partially torn hamstring, pending an opinion of one final specialist. Shafter added that Dak will meet with the specialist in New York, but the Cowboys doctor already believed he needs surgery that would sideline him four months. The Cowboys did not place Dak on injury reserve today. Trading away. Hold on. Trading away a fourth round pick four days before it comes out that your quarterback. Hold on. That. That does make it even more egregious because you knew Dak was injured and you traded for. But anyway, I don't care that Mingo has two years left on his deal. Completely insane price if you know the season is probably over. That's what Dave Helman.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, hey, Jerry said he was going to get a receiver. He said you say he was going to get a receiver. He went and got one. He went and got one. Listen, we see. We're going to see tomorrow. We're going to see tomorrow. I hope. I hope that has, I hope, decided. He heals fast. I hope he heals fast. You know, Scrap, it's over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's opportunity.

[Ocho Cinco]

I'm just saying I hope he heals fast. I'm definitely not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he can heal slow.

[Ocho Cinco]

I'm not talking about to come back. I mean, this season. I mean, just in general wanting to heal fast so we can get. He can get back in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

He can not get back out there on the field, but just get back into a groove of working yourself back into shape and being able to throw the ball. That's one thing you don't play with soft tissue injuries. Hey, that groin, that groin, that hamstring, the Achilles area, your calf.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Calf.

[Ocho Cinco]

Well, I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't miss that with nobody. You see. You see what hamstring. Zion's gonna miss time with a hamstring. Kevin Durant's gonna miss time with a calf. They don't. Oh. Cause you definitely. You play with your lower body.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where you going? Those things grab it. I mean, that's crazy, man. Yep. Well, hopefully, like you said, it get, you know, you get. He gets the final prognosis. He gets done what he needs to get done, and he's ready to come back next year and rebuild.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

I was gonna say Christian McAffrey will make his debut this weekend against the bucks. Or the 49ers about to get back on track. Oo. They got the Bucks at at Tampa, they got Seattle at home, at Green Bay at Buffalo, Chicago at home, Rams at home, at Miami, Detroit at home on a Monday night and flex gang 2 BD against Arizona week 18. Do you think they make on? Do you think they going to run?

[Ocho Cinco]

Absolutely, absolutely. I think they would have went on and run. Even if CMC didn't come back, I think they would have run. But just adding him back to that offense and the dynamic that he brings in the passing game and running game is tremendous. It makes it that much more difficult for you to defend them defensively. I know Brandon Ayuk is out. I think Juwan Jennings is coming back. I could be wrong. If I'm not mistaken, Deebo's back, Kittles is still there. You add cmc, that makes him that much more dangerous. Mike Shanahan with CMC back, the playbook opens up even more exponentially. That's a big word for me. I can't spell it, but it's a big word for me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Saquon was drug tested after reverse Ochoa explained why the NFL does this to people at home. When something spectacular guy has, you know, three touchdown catches or 200 yards or 180 yards rush and a guy has three, four sacks, all of a sudden randomly he comes up on a drug test.

[Ocho Cinco]

Anytime you have a game like that. Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase, please expect a drug test in your locker tomorrow or Monday morning, whatever day it is. Normally when you have a performance like that, a performance that doesn't happen as frequent or as often than a drug test, you. I'm not sure what they're thinking they're going to catch. I think they just have insight. Well, this doesn't happen as often as it should. So the fact that it happened today and in this game and you had numbers that are kind of extraordinary, we're going to test you and see if you took something that resulted in helping you perform the way you did today. It's weird. I never forget I got drug tested a few times. One that I can remember clear as day was performance after we played the San Diego Chargers. I'll never forget we played the San Diego Chargers. I think I had a 260 yard day, 260 yard day, two touchdown, two touchdown. Game change.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Broke your record tonight, I think.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, I think he had What? He had 264 tonight. He, he broke my record last year, his rookie year, remember? He had, he had 266. Oh yeah, he had 266. He broke it last year. He had 264 tonight. And I mean, being able to have multiple games like that is unreal. Unreal. And you have to think today, today's game is a lot different than it was when we were playing. Huh? You know, it was, we were, we were run first. Now they throw the goddamn ball all over the place. You can't play defense. You can't touch nobody. So the game is, the game is kind of, kind of different now where it's almost Damn near like 7 on 7 with helmets and pads on. But, but, but, dude, that Chase, man, but that we got, boy special Ocho.

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One of the NFL players is an heir to a $500 million potato empire. St. Center Conor McGregor is his eighth NFL season and his family company is the biggest potato producer in America. Their main potato supplier of McDonald's Raising Cane's, Wendy's and Frito Lay chips. And When Conor and McGovern was drafted by the Broncos in 2016, some of his teammates were curious why he was playing football when he can make far more money back home farming. His response? I wanted to make a name for myself and show that my hard work earned myself something and I wasn't riding the coattails of everybody. But whenever his NFL career ends, the 31 year old center said he would go back to RD with office, his family's company back to research, I guess research and develop. Though he said he'll work his way up from the bottom just like everybody else and earn his way up just like he did in his football career. So the next time you're snacking on McDonald's fries, remember those potatoes are likely coming from Conor McGovern McConnell McGovern's family.

[Ocho Cinco]

That's dope. That's dope. And I like that. Most of the time when you, when you have success or a kid is born into wealth, they don't have that same drive and that work that it takes to want to work and actually put the work in to earn and see what it's like to have the responsibilities and what it takes to earn that kind of money to be able to support yourself. So I'm not sure if his parents raised him that way and, but the fact that he is the way he is is commendable and then not only for the business to already be successful, but to have an NFL career and say I'm going to make good money in NFL and then when I do retire, I'm going to start from the bottom of the business and work my way back up to the top. Ain't too Many people built like that, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but he should, because I'm sure he doesn't know the business because he was like playing football, college football, NFL football, Like the people that's already there. Although a lot of times. Yeah, you're right, Ocho. A lot of times. Family member. Hey, my family company, I want to start at a VP level as opposed to an entry level. Learn the ropes and work your way up. That's why I've always been impressed by Peyton Manning. His dad made lots of money, Eli made lots of money. And they gonna be number one draft picks overall and make careers for themselves. You have to commend that. When your dad is somebody, your mom, your family somebody, and you say, yeah, that's fine and good, but I want my own name. And that's what people used to tell me all the time, man, your brother got money, that's his money. My brother don't wanna be taking care of no grown ass man. He got a wife and kid. So I wanna earn my own. I wanna do my own thing. I appreciate everything that my brother gave me. He gave me just enough to make me desire to get more. But on my own, I saw the thing that he had and he knew. He knew I wanted to be like him. Hey, hey, bro, check this out. Look what I got.

[Ocho Cinco]

Damn inspiring, ain't it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man? And I went and got everything. With the exception. With the exception he had. I don't know if you remember this Ojo, but in the 80s they came out with a BMW called the M3. It had a. It had a spoiler on the back and everything, with the exception of that. And he had a Typhoon. Every other car that my brother had, I got it.

[Ocho Cinco]

You got your one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He got a Ferrari, I got a Ferrari. He got a big band, I got a big band. Whatever car he had, I got because that's what I saw. That's what drove, that's what motivated me and for Conor McGregor govern family to be who they are. And he's like, no, yeah, that's good, fine. But I want my own name.

[Ocho Cinco]

That's like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And no matter what happens, I've had a NFL career that spanned eight years, maybe goes nine, 10, who knows? But when my career is over, yeah, I'm still young. Think about it. He only be 30. Let's just say for the sake of arguing his career goals, another two years, he'd be 33 years of age. Yeah, he could. I mean, he's made good money. He could retire if he wants to, but say no, we're Gonna go into the family business and we gonna expand. So I, I, I bet. I love that. I love, I love, I love when kids come from wealthy families or well off families and don't feel entitled. I love that no matter what, you know what you wanna say. Cause a lot of times they have access. Bronny had access. LeBron made sure he had the best trainer, he had the best nutritionist, he had the best coaches. He had the best of everything. But the kid said, I want to make it on my own. Now, he's never going to be able to outrun his dad's shadow. His dad is LeBron. It's just like Jordan, kid. They're never going to be able to outrun the door's dad's shadow. But just because that's my dad, I shouldn't want for myself. So you mean to tell me I can't, I can't want to accomplish something? Just my last name is supposed to get it. So I commend the kid. I commend them. I love the opportunity. Look, he's supposed to. You're supposed to give them an opportunity. All this old ass nepotism and nip your ass out my face. But like I said, I love when kids want to be something on their own. You know what I'm saying, don't y'all? I can't do anything. I can't help who my parents are, what I was born into. But I have a desire to be known by more than that. I did that on my own. Yeah, that's my brother. But Sterling ain't catching no passes at Savannah State. He ain't catching no passes for the Broncos or the Ravens. So no matter what. And y'all know this, you know this. NFL want to know who can help? Can you help? Can you help me win games?

[Ocho Cinco]

That's all it come down to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause Sterling ain't playing over here. He played on the Green Bay. He up in Green Bay win games. So kudos to you, Conor McGovern. Josh Allen has officially overtaken Lamar as the MVP front runner. Josh Allen is now a plus 150. Lamar Jackson is a plus 200, Jerry Goff is a plus 600, Jalen Hurts is fourth with plus 1200. Patrick Mahomes is plus 1300 and Kyler Murray is plus 1500. In the regular season, Josh Allen has passed for 2,543 yards, which is seventh. 18 touchdowns, which is six. Five interceptions. He's tied for fifth. I mean, he's tied for 57th, which is a good thing. And his QBR of 72.6 puts him in fourth. Lamar, he's second in passing yards, 28. 76. He's second in touchdowns, 25. He's tied for 47 with three interceptions. He's number two in QBR and 75.1.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, you know, you know what's funny? Everything. You just ran it down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho Cinco]

With golf, probably golf and Josh Allen obviously being the back, back and forth, it's going to change because Lamar, Lamar is not going to play another bad game like he did against the, against the Steelers. He's going to come out and he's going to be the front runner again and then go out and he's going to put on an unbelievable performance. I'm not sure who, I'm not sure what their schedule is or who they're playing next, but the other teams aren't used to them. It's not a divisional game. It's not going to be a divisional game. They're not going to have the structured defense to be able to contain him the way the Steelers do. The Steelers are built to be able to stop a player like himself because they're used to seeing him and understanding that team's tendencies offensively. So he's going to come out, he gonna have one hell of a day, do some crazy stuff on the ground, do some crazy stuff in the air, and he's gonna be back at the number one spot to an mvp, I guarantee you. Guarantee you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I mean, look, look, I mean, he has another game against the Steelers. Steelers have given them problems. One and four.

[Ocho Cinco]

One and four.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he has another game, but this game is at home against the Steelers. Who do they have? They got the Steelers. I think they got another game against Cleveland at Chargers this week. He's at the Chargers this week. Eagles at home at Giants home versus the Steelers at Texans home versus the Brown. So it ain't like he got together now again.

[Ocho Cinco]

Every, every team you just named don't have the personnel like the ceilings do to be able to stop what he's able to do and what he does.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, what about the personnel are going up against his defense? What about the Eagles offense against that defense? What about the Texans offense against that defense?

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, you. Hey, can I tell you something? Other people you do know your Raven team is dead last in the secondary when it comes against the pass.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've been trying but see, when I tell people that, they say when you trying to. You trying. No, I'm. If you see that when people tell me, oh, now you could Tell Shannon didn't watch the game, you watching it, but you don't know what the hell you looking for, right? You're like a blind dog in a meat house. You can't tell me fronts, you can't tell me coverages, you can't tell me formations, you can't tell me anything. All you watching for is touchdowns and sacks. I'm watching to understand why they have success. So while you tell me I'm not watching it, you watching it, but you don't know what the hell you're looking at. It's like you watching a farm film and they got sub. Unless they give you subtitles, you don't know what the hell you looking at. I've been telling them, but they gave me excuse. Wait till this guy comes back. Wait till that guy comes back. Well, I saw you guys in there when you had those guys and your defense was still bad in passing, much, much better.

[Ocho Cinco]

Stop the run that, that, that, that second level.

[Shannon Sharpe]

At some point in time, fans going to have to understand everybody is not a hater. Sometimes people are just trying to give you information. Our job is sometimes to be, is to be entertaining, is to be informative, to be educational. Okay, yes, I say a lot of things in a joking manner, but I'm actually giving you factual information if you just listen to it. But you don't want to because you want to paint this narrative that, oh, Shannon is a hater. But listen, what Shannon said, when it comes back, what I tell you, then you talk about, oh, oh, I could have capped an obvious. Well, you didn't say it.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But people don't just don't want to get no credit. Boy, people don't want to get no credit because if I didn't, if I didn't say it. Why didn't you say that before I said it? Well, I knew that. No, you didn't. Because I take it to the black. I'll take you to the board and say, oh, draw me a cover six. Draw me cover seven. Give me five zone. Okay, give me this formation, give me this protection. I want you to redirect what you mean by that. No, you know, you watching the game, you should know.

[Ocho Cinco]

I don't, I don't think the casual, the casual fan can't do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell no, they can't. But they just want to jump on your timeline and try to. And try to. Well, he ain't watching the game. I am watching the game. I also know that when you throw the ball more than you run it.

[Ocho Cinco]

Evan Raven, you lose I mean, that's it right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm the one that said put Derrick Henry in the eye. Ain't nobody else say that. I said it from the drum. Oh, Joe. I said he's not his own read back because he's a long strider and you don't get. He needs time to be able to redirect when you put him back close to the line. He's such a long strider, he can't redirect his feet. Barry Sanders, a short strider can do. He perfect. That's perfect for him. But Derrick Henry needs to be able to change direction. He needs to be able to check his feet and cut back, get back downhill. That's why you put his heels at 8. You toss it to him, you hand it to him, and boom. Now, whoever drew up that damn play that they tossed that ball to Derrick Henry and they let TJ Watt come in there and blow his ass up, they should have put him back there running back and let the same thing happen. Don't block TJ Watt and let TJ Watt, I mean TJ Watt, knock his.

[Ocho Cinco]

Ass in the right tackle. Should have known better. I'm not sure what the blocking assignment was, but why don't you let TJ Watt run scot free with the pitch? Even though the pitch is going the opposite way still every time. I'm getting there. Every time. Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just like. I'm like, who. Who thought that was a good idea? Hey, we gonna run this talk play week, but we gonna unblock tjy, okay? And you see what happened. Damn. They got digging. And I'm like, that's why I stopped playing running back. Cause I got tired of my bad. Sharp. Well, it ain't your bad. I'm way down the damn field. I ain't gotta worry about my bad. I ain't gotta worry about my bad. Old show. I got tired of you. Hey, my bad. That's me. That's on me, bro. Right? Dude, I got me looking at my ear hole, but you talk about your bad.

[Ocho Cinco]

What'd I do? Hey, speaking of that, think about how bad it is for quarterbacks when the O line is playing bad. When they can't block and the quarterback continues to get sacked over and over and over and you can't fuss at them. Then you have to keep your. Your mannerisms and. And your facial expressions has to be on point. You do matter how many times you get hit in the game. Imagine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I wanted Ojo. Let me ask you a question. Right when the Cowboys fell behind by 10, 13 points with no threat of the running game. What you think the Texans thinking?

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They ain't playing for no draw. They not playing for no run. They pinning their ears back. Everybody in the stadium know you not gonna run it. And now you made it very. It's very. I don't care who your offensive linemen are. You let them jokers know that every single down, you gonna throw it. Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Make no sense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jamar Chase is angry with the team's inability to close that game. Ask, how do you fix it? He said, ask Zach. Ask the coaches. Don't ask me. I just play football. I don't call plays. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who said that? Chase. Oh, a situation where they had a first. They had. They ended up getting the first down, right? But Joe missed. Jamarco a touchdown. Guys pressed, he inside released, and the guys collided.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He went straight up the field. And when he threw the. He was jumping up and down. Joe didn't see it. I tweeted it. I saw it. They didn't replay it, but I saw it. I saw it.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. Sometimes, you know, your quarterback won't always see everything. He won't know what's going to happen. And the fact that the guys collided, that means the ball really won't come through anyway because you. No, you know, you won the read.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And hold on. On that touchdown. Oh, this slipped my mind. Oh, which one?

[Ocho Cinco]

Which one?

[Shannon Sharpe]

On the long touchdown to T. Higgins. Yes. The guy didn't bracket. Why, if the safety is inside, why is the corner trying to jump the Sluggo? Stay on the upfield shoulder.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, he's trying to get that pick. Huh? He trying to get that pick. Are you trying to get that pick? Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, somebody said they replayed it. I didn't see it, but I tweeted immediately. And I know. I was like, bro, y'all got to play off. You can't be that close when you like that. Because what's going to happen when he pushes up the field and one guy goes and, hey, y'all gonna collide. And sure enough. But that's just frustration. He know. He knows they're running out of games, and there are no two win games on the schedule. Which means what? I mean, when people say two win game, a game in which you win and you get two victories for it, there aren't any of those on the schedule. So he knows this was a game. This could have started something. Something really, really, really, really good. Now, look, and the thing is, Ocho, you know, you don't Want to go into the buy with a loss. Damn, that hurt o joke. That ruined your whole body. I don't care what anybody say. They lying. If they say it, it does.

[Ocho Cinco]

It's going to sting, it's going to stink. And then you know what? It does too. Also, it put that much pressure on you. It put that much more pressure on you on the game coming up, we got a Steelers, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but y'all got a fight week this week. And T. Higgins, T. Higgins was frustrated with the Ben saying we can't finish the effing game.

[Ocho Cinco]

Them boys hot, bro. Them boys hot. But what we need to do, it ain't even about finishing the game. We need to start this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They say we didn't start. Well, we had an opportunity to finish it and we missed two field goals. Oh, you missed back to back field goals now. And the same way you hooked and left. Damn, bro, you didn't make no adjustment.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, listen, the most, the most difficult, one of the most difficult positions on the field is kicker. It is kicker. You know, one slight adjustment, one slight mistake, a swing of the leg, you not keeping your head down at the ball, you know, allowing your foot to sway a little further left than it should, it changes the trajectory of the ball. So as a kicker myself, I understand the difficulties that comes when it comes to kicking the ball. So, McPherson, all you gotta do, you go back to your basics. Same thing with Justin Tucker. You go back to your basics, go back to your basic fundamentals when it comes to kicking the ball. And start all the way over. Start all the way over and beat yourself back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Brown will kick himself in the good boy Chase about to hit them over the head.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh yeah, big time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the thing is, he ain't even got no mask. Y'all know it's him. So when you hear something pitch in the back of the head, just tell the cops. Jamar Chase just robbed. The Chiefs escaped Carolina with the last second win. Tight end Noah Gray two touchdowns, which is the most yards of separation. The Chiefs receiving a touchdown in the past two seasons. He was wide open. Needless to say, after weeks of carrying the office, Steve Spagno's crew hit a November low. For consecutive week KC defense allowed 325 plus yards. We knew it was going to happen, Ocho. I'm. Look, I've been, I've been a part of a historic defense. But there are games that if we didn't play our absolute best offensively, we would have lost. That's what Kansas City had to do today. They turnovers it probably would have cost. It probably would have lost the game. Mahomes was 27, 37, 269, three touchdowns. Got sacked five times, though. Noah Gray, four catches, 66 yards, two touchdowns. Travis Kelsey, like, man, y'all over here doubling and tripling B. And he eating every week. He get to tell you he had two last. He got what? He had two today. Had one last. I think he had like two last week. He got about five or six touchdowns.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, that, that's, that's the Kelsey effect. He not letting you beat me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not, I'm not. But the offensive line, man, man, it seems like, I don't know, maybe, maybe it's my television, but it seems like every time Mahomes dropped back, he. For his life, he is.

[Ocho Cinco]

Let's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That left me.

[Ocho Cinco]

No disrespect, but the tackle play is very bad. Huh? The tackle play is, is very bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I tell you what, if the 49ers, if the 49ers let Dub go, Trip Tricky Dub, Kansas City, better back to Brinks.

[Ocho Cinco]

You know, they gonna back it up. Even at his age, he's still one of the best. He might, he might be the best left tackle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He premier. He's still that boy. He's still him. I mean. Cause they tried, they tried, they tried to get him in free agency. And Kansas City, you know, he's familiar, you know, he's familiar with Kyle. He played for Mike, so he's familiar with that situation. But I think I, I, I think Ocho with an opportunity. He wants an opportunity. He wants to win. He wants to win that Super Bowl. And Kansas City, as long as you got that quarterback and you got that coach, I think they're better positioned than the 49ers. That's just me personally, I could be wrong, but can you imagine him at left tackle protecting that blindside? The jets could reportedly release Aaron Rodgers in season. Rogers wants to play in 20, 25.

[Ocho Cinco]

Whoa.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But not with the Jets.

[Ocho Cinco]

Timeout. Timeout, man. Timeout. Timeout. Hold on. Let me get my flag. Let me get my, Let me get my flag. It's a flag on the plate. Let me get a flag. All right, I got my flag. I know it, I know it's white, but we gonna pretend it's yellow. I just threw the flag.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Ocho Cinco]

I just threw the flag.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Giving up. Hold on. Okay, okay.

[Ocho Cinco]

You know what's funny? When it comes to a quarterback like this, with a resume like this, even though the NFL is all about, what have you done for me lately? When Aaron Rodgers said, you know what? As desperate as teams are to have a quarterback, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets an opportunity after what he just said. If they do release him, if the jets do release him and start over as far as searching for a quarterback, Aaron Rodgers will get a job simply because of what he's done in the past. They gonna hold on to that. They gonna hold on to the. For how many, how many times? Mvp? Four. If I'm not four, she.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Four.

[Ocho Cinco]

He's won a Super bowl, man. He gonna get another chance.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Diana Rossini. Diana Rossini. When she talks about the jets, let's listen to what she has to say. I'm told Johnson has lost confidence in Rogers ability to lead the team to the playoffs for the first time in 14 years. A drought that now stands as the longest in major North American professional sports league. There are some on the team who believe everyone is simply tiptoeing around the fact that Rodgers isn't the same player anymore. Some around the league say they won't be surprised if Rodgers is cut in the season. As far as Rodgers, his relationship with the owner has been strained for months. That's not a secret in the building or the locker room. At this point, after conversation with Sausage with the team and around the league, My understanding is, Roger, Stan still wants to play in 2025. I like it, just not with the Jets.

[Ocho Cinco]

I like it, but I don't like it. I like it, but I don't like it because I want to break down, I want to break down the other 31 teams. There are many teams that don't even need a quarterback. What teams can Aaron Rodgers go to make a difference when you couldn't make a difference when you're in New York? They gave you the players you wanted, they gave you everything you wanted and.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They gave you everything they wanted.

[Ocho Cinco]

You got Lazard, you got Breece Hall. I mean, come on now, what we doing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Remember Ocho? Remember last year? Remember last year they got a, what you call a final call for it.

[Ocho Cinco]

And then if he is to go to a team, it has to be a team where he doesn't have to do much because his supporting cast can hold him up. He can't go to a team that has less talent and make them better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He needs somebody to uplift him for the longest time, he could uplift other play of his teammates.

[Ocho Cinco]

Time to change. No longer do that. So. But there's nowhere for him to go, huh? There's nowhere for him to go. Like if you think about It. It's nowhere for him to go. Where are you going?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tell me. So we both know, man.

[Ocho Cinco]

I think. Listen, Aaron. Aaron. What? But you got. You better focus and lock in. You bet. You better focus and lock in because you're gonna be on the outside looking in in a minute.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bro. Football been stopped being important. Aaron Rodgers. Y'all can feel what y'all want to say. Aaron Rodgers been. And football was the last. Football gave him ability to have the cachet to talk about all the other stuff that he cared to talk about. Y'all know this. Y'all see it. Y'all see the man demeanor. Y'all see his behavior. Y'all saw the way he conducted himself. Football been stopped being important to Aaron Rodgers.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, he's one of the few. He's one of. You know, Aaron Rodgers has what most don't. Well, mostly all quarterbacks do. He has privilege. And he's one of the few. Not only does he have that privilege, he abuses that privilege and the power that he has because of what he's done in the NFL. The few that does it, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Nobody else would be able to get away with certain things. Can you imagine you. No, forget you. Because you. You follow the rules. I'm, let's say, me, who bent the rules and always told the line no. And never crossed it. Can you imagine if I said, you know what? I'm not going to minicamp. I'm going on a retreat, because I already have planned.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Ocho Cinco]

Can you imagine?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I could. Hey, yeah, I could imagine. They defined you a cutcher. What the hell you talking about? That's what happened. Hey, all I know is that Antonio Brown didn't go to a team meeting and they cut him. They had a meeting and had a walkthrough in the ballroom. He didn't show up, and they cut him.

[Ocho Cinco]

They don't play. Certain people are. Are extended.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, y'all. See, y'all. Y'all get upset with me when I. When I tell. When I tell the truth. See, my thing is, I don't know why anybody would question. Because y'all see, I call it right down the middle. It doesn't matter if you're Aaron Rodgers, you're Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Lamar Jackson, or. Or Patrick Mahomes. If I think. If I. If I see it, I'm just gonna be honest. I've been telling you guys for the longest. Aaron Rodgers is an arrogant, condescending flippant. He blames everyone. He takes no responsibility for himself. He's been that he's always been that. But he won MVPs, so everybody overlooked it. Now he can no longer be an mvp. Everybody's saying what I've been saying for years.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, but you know, when you had that kind of. When you had that kind of resume like Aaron Rodgers, when you had that kind of success for so long, you know, when you're a franchise quarterback like that, when you're a Super bowl champion, you extended a different type of grace especially. Yes, he had the quarterback there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, Ocho, one of the things you often say, boy, if you not careful, you'll become the very thing you despise the most in a person. He despised the way Brett Favre treated him. Did he not turn around and become the very thing he despised the most?

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he would. Lord have mercy. So y'all don't want to listen to me, Unc talking Unc like he. But see, Unc know what he talking about. So y'all say Unc talk a lot. Y'all don't really be saying, I don't know what I'm talking about. Because when it come to fruition, the first thing you say, oh, Captain Obvious. Well, why did you say it? If it was so obvious, you could have said it.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look how he got out of there. He didn't want to come to many camps. He wanted everything to be his way. Isn't that what Brett Favre. Isn't that why they got Brett Favre? Now? Where did Brett Favre go when he left Green Bay? Tell the female mocho. The New York Jets. Oh. So tell the people. How long did Brett Farms stay in New York?

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, hold on, hold on. Where'd he go now? Where'd he go next? So are we saying that Aaron Rodgers is probably going to beat him in Minnesota? I don't know. And they just. They got JJ McCarthy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got JJ McCarthy. Yeah. No. And he's already missed a year. You're not going to send him back another year. No. And I'm drafting a quarterback. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. What is Aaron Rodgers going to do? At most, he plays a year. And you think I'm going to pass on a quarterback for a year? Are we sure he can elevate my team? The jets thought he could. How that work out for them? They gave up draft capital and they're worse off than they were when they had Rock, when they had Zach Wilson, when they had Sam Darnold, when they have whomever else they had at quarterback, bruh. You're not getting a Tom Brady ending.

[Ocho Cinco]

Wait, wait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not getting a big fantasy.

[Ocho Cinco]

Wait, what changed his mindset? What if he changed his approach to the game? Or it's too late. It's too late.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can't he. How you do something for 20 years and you won MVP and you won a suit, both you change your mindset. Tom Brady couldn't change his mindset. If he could, because he still had that underdog mentality. All he saw himself as accomplished as he was was a 6th round draft pick that nobody wanted until the 6th round. That's all he ever saw himself. He always felt, I got to go in and prove that I got to make the team. Even though after one super bowl, two super bowl, three super bowl, mvp, mvp, mvp. Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl. I've got to prove it. Peyton Manning every year. Prove it. Prove it. Prove it. It's always been about him. Damn. He's always been condescending. He's always been flippant. He's always been arrogant. He's always been aloof. You overlooked it because he was winning MVPs. Now he's the same player. You don't change when you lose. You don't change. See, losing doesn't change who you are. It reveals who you are. That's what losing does. It reveals your. It'll build character.

[Ocho Cinco]

It reveals it just like, just like, just like, just like anger and just like someone. Someone that drinks and you finally get to see some colors when they're angry. They tell you how they really feel.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And people like, oh, he got money. He changed. No, money doesn't change you. It makes you more of what you already are. You don't get money and become generous. You don't. That's always in you. You don't get money and become a jerk. You've always been a jerk, but you are a model because you didn't have the power and the money to be a. So that's what money will allow you to do. People that have money and that are nice and respectful, they've always been that way. I guarantee you, you go look at anybody and they'll tell you, I don't need to call no name. But when they got money, they say they been that way. But if we're on the same level, how can I be a real jerk when we on the same level? But let me get a little advantage over you.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, listen. Money, money, Money does some strange things to people. It does strain is just. It does some Strange, strange things. It's hard to remember yourself. You know you get it, but if you are able to control it and don't allow it to control you, it's a beautiful thing.

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your base basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I, I texted you and you text me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink.

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There was something sentimental when you, when you send it. It was like, do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

Now, I don't like the color edition.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Justin Pennick]

What's going on, everybody? This is Justin Pennock from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen going to pull it out? Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can the Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything. We break it down. Stats, analytics. And of course, Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Daniel Jones. Damn.

[Ocho Cinco]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That escalated quickly. Ocho. Daniel Jones has officially been waived by the Giants. Saquon Barkley. Rooting for a fresh start for Jones. Jones went. Wants to go to a team. Go to a playoff team. Huh?

[Ocho Cinco]

Well, say that again. Wait, read that for me again. Read that for me again. Real slow. Read it for me again. One more time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But what I'mma do what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna play, I'm gonna press rewind and then I'm gonna hit play. Daniel Jones wants to go to a play. Daniel Jones wants to go to a playoff team.

[Ocho Cinco]

Let me get this straight. So Daniel Jones wants to go to a playoff team. He not. He wants to go to a playoff team where they already have a quarterback in place. But I'm assuming he wants to go to a playoff team so we know what it feels like to win and maybe be the backup. I'm assuming that's that. What do you mean by saying it? I don't think he means to actually start or contend or compete to be the starting quarterback for a team that always has a starting quarterback. Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

According to Adam Schefter, Jones is expected to have multiple options, but likely will prefer to finish this season on a playoff contending team where he would be involved in big games rather than going to a mandarin quarterback needy team not remotely in playoff contention. But if they got. If they go. If you go into a team, you're not. I mean, that has to be what he mean, huh? But he's already been to the playoffs.

[Ocho Cinco]

Real quick, I don't mean to break it down. I'm not sure how good you are with being able to name all the quarterbacks in the league, but think about all the teams that are playoff or in playoff contention or even in the hunt. Even in the hunt, huh? I mean, how many teams actually need the quarterback? And the one that. Yeah, exactly. That's the whole point. So I think he just wants the experience of knowing what it feels like to win and to be, you know, be competing in the playoffs or being in contention in general. It has to be what he means.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Going to the top. But here's my thing. Ocho. When I look at it, maybe he needs to go somewhere with a different culture, because a lot. Because sometimes it is culture. You get. You get caught up, Ocho, the way they coach and the way they do things, and maybe that's not conducive for you. You get into a new situation, they practice different, they meet different, the coaches coach different, they talk to you different. I don't know. I look, it didn't. When I heard it, I did it. I'm like, oh, you want to go? I can see. Ocho, you're a wide receiver, you a running back, you're a defensive player. Okay, I get that. Because there's an opportunity, but there's only one because all the other positions, right, you can have multiple positions on the. At the same time on the field, but when you're a quarterback, you can only have one. So. And I'm looking at him like, well, so going to a team that's in playoff consideration or contention, right? What are you going to do?

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, my goodness. I mean, it has to make sense. The only thing that makes sense is based on what he's saying, he wants to be somewhere where maybe he's not going to be the starter. We know he's not going to be a starter, but I want to be somewhere where I can be on a team where I can be a backup if need be. I can help. But I would like to know what it feels like to be contending or be challenging for a playoff spot with that team. Hello. That got to be it, obviously.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So you want to wind that leg.

[Ocho Cinco]

That was a good one, though. That was a good one. That was a real good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The jets are certified disaster, and they got messier today. The day began with the team firing general manager Joe Douglas, which was not exactly surprised. Douglas was 30 and 64 during the jets tenure and never sniffed the playoffs. The juicy of all was Woody Johnson wanted to bench Aaron Rodgers just four weeks into the season in favor of Tyrod Taylor. The coaches present in the meeting were stunned, according to our report, and rightfully so. Johnson backed off, but fired Robert Sala a week later. Fired Robert Sala, demoted Nathaniel Hatchet. Now, I asked you who was next. See, Green Bay got smart. Green Bay said, hell y'all, you ain't gonna get me up out of here. Matt LaFleur and Brian Gudigas and Mark Murphy.

[Ocho Cinco]

Billy Johnson wanted to bench Aaron Rodgers in week four for Tyrod Taylor. Right. So the elephant in the room, who always been the problem. So you're doing all this firing where you're not getting putting the right person in the place that needs to be. Well, how you gonna. You gonna bench? I ain't never seen nobody bench a quarterback that make that kind of money either. He would have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So the Woody Johnson, he would have.

[Ocho Cinco]

So now Joe Douglas gone. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you, Woody, you do realize they use your jet to go fly to see Aaron Rogers. You do realize you signed off on all this, so where's your comfort?

[Ocho Cinco]

But also, they're. They're expecting to get the Aaron Rodgers to bowl. They're expecting to get the Aaron Rodgers that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got an old Aaron Rodgers, bro. Everybody ain't gonna be. So you thought they was gonna turn right around after Tom Brady did what he did. You thought so soon right after that another guy was gonna do that, what allowed Brady to play as long as he did and as well as he. He had no major injury after he suffered that ACL injury that was in 2008. So up until that, he had no injuries. He had no hamstrings, he had no injuries that really caused him to miss time. Aaron Rodgers was coming off one of the most serious injury a player in the sports can suffer, right? The Achilles injury. Plus he's farting.

[Ocho Cinco]

I don't think he takes the game as serious as Tom as well. Yeah, he doesn't take the game as serious.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Of course not.

[Ocho Cinco]

Two different. He never has two totally different type of quarterbacks, especially when it comes to their approach to the game and the serious and the seriousness of it and the way they take it. So I could. I could understand if you're coming back, if you're coming off an injury like that and you already don't take it serious, you do what you need to do to get back. It's in good graces and health to play, but your approach is still wrong because everything you do talk about when you are on tv. It has nothing to do with the game of football.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nothing. Oh, you probably still like that.

[Ocho Cinco]

No, I just don't understand. Every time he speaks, it never has anything to do with damn football doing some shit I got to look up in the goddamn dictionary on a goddamn computer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you talking about going into the dark and he's talking about these trips and he's talking about this and talking about that. Nothing about building team camaraderie, building team chemistry. And when he could have been built, he could have been doing that. He was in Egypt talking about a trip. Everybody know when. That mandatory minicamp. You don't plan nothing around that, Ocho, because that's the one that you got to be at. Oh, let me. Everybody that understands what the word mandatory means has to be there. But what he failed to realize, what he did in Green Bay ain't got nothing to do. They want to see what you're going to do for the Jets. You heard, Tom. I said it when I went to Baltimore. Them Pro Bowls, those All Pros, those Super Bowls, that ain't got. I've done nothing in Baltimore. I've got to come in, work my ass off to let them see how I became the player I became while I was there. Peyton said it. Tom so eloquently laid it out. He like what I accomplished in New England got to do with Tampa. Tampa getting Tom, getting his teammates. Hey, let's go to the park. It's in Covid. We ain't supposed to be in the park.

[Ocho Cinco]

That shit was funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Peyton getting his guys together. He grabbed up Julius and Decker and Julius Thomas and no Sean. Hey, let's go throw, guys. I think Stokely was there at the time. A Welker. Let's go. Hey, let's go throw. Let's. Let's. Let's build up some chemistry. Let's build up a bond. Let's get to know. Let me tell you where I want to throw the fork. You tell me where you want the ball. And let me tell you what I'm looking for on this route. Nah, let me go over to Egypt. I've already got this trip planned. Hey, so it is what it is. And he wanted if. If I'm the Jets, I need somebody to explain to me why would I want Aaron Rodgers next year? Yes.

[Ocho Cinco]

If. If Aaron Rodgers is not done. If he's not done. He signed. He signed. He signed two years, didn't he all. No, he has another.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm sure he does.

[Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But for what why do I want. Tell me. Tell me. Why do I want Emoto? What am I getting? A 41 year old that's a year older than what he is now. So what? He's gonna gain speed, he's gonna get faster?

[Ocho Cinco]

You know what a better question is? If, if you don't want him next year, what's your next option? What's your next viable option where you can compete and you can take. You can. You can contend.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can I compete with Aaron Rodgers? You telling me what I can't do without him? What can I do with it? The three and eight. So tell me, what can I do with it? Because I. I can be 3 and 8 without him and save 50 million. Hell, you in last place in the division if you finish last place in the division with him. I can't finish in last place in the division without him.

[Ocho Cinco]

But, hey, you. You understand that. You know how difficult that position is, how difficult it is to find a quarterback for that position. You. You know that it takes a while.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Have they found one? They got one in the position.

[Ocho Cinco]

About that. That's. That's. That's even. That's even better question.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's been there two years. He.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, we gonna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're gonna disregard that.

[Ocho Cinco]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do they got a quarterback record they thought they had? Take. Take Rogers off the back. Take Rogers off the back of the jersey.

[Ocho Cinco]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You bringing that guy back next year.

[Ocho Cinco]

And if he. If he. If he does get the grace to come back next year, it's because of what he's done in the past. If he does get the grace to come back next year, it's based off what he's done in the past. Oh, he's going. He's gonna get some grace.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely. The volume.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, oh, oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All righty.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else you can find a show with that much athleticism? And football Inside. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen to lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Justin Pennick]

What's up everyone? It's Justin Pennock from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast with Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We roll three times a week. On Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're gearing up for the NFL playoffs. I hope you can join us. Join in with us three times a week. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad.