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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Of iheart podcast network puka nakua may be soon hearing from the league office puka recently made critical comments about the nfl game officials doing a live stream saying the refs are the worst these guys these guys are lawyers they don't want they don't they want to be on tv too so you don't think he's texting his friend in the group chat like yo guys you just saw me on sunday night football like that wasn't pi but i called it i mean these guys are normal human beings too so basically he said guys sometimes throw flags because they want to be on tv they want their friends to see them just like hey hey we ain't never been on tv i'm from savannah state kid from savannah state hell i know everybody in glenville watching i know everybody in the surrounding counties watching i know savannah state watch it okay i want to do something good well an official if you don't throw no flag on your how you gonna get.
Joe Johnson
On tv yeah that that is true and i have a question too this is it when you do anything outside of nfl media are you can you still be fine for it no no.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No you can't if you if you're a a a a player in the league you can't criticize officiating if you're.
Joe Johnson
An active player right see i you know what i don't know i didn't know that yeah now i didn't know that now now going on a separate a separate site that had nothing to do with media but the internet publicly.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah okay he said if he said that to you ocho and you and him man man you don't need to fish man they they some cheeks man they'd be throwing some bull jack but you can't say it on the street a stream is a public platform o.
Joe Johnson
Joke yeah i i ain't know that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That'Ll be that'll be just like you going on a podcast you're an active player and you go on a podcast and criticize the officiating you'll get that letter for you go get that letter from park avenue that's crazy so yeah pookie gonna probably cost you a month with twenty five twenty five k thirty.
Joe Johnson
Forty fifty yeah hey first first offense.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
First offense twelve five what what's what's a criticize the critical criticize the official it probably twenty five ojo that's that's.
Joe Johnson
A whole lot for a first offense huh you got you don't get no warning they got to hit you twenty.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Five zero zero zero the next is gonna probably be fifty or one hundred that's the warning the warning is not shooting over your head the warning is shooting you in the ass you lucky i shoot you your head yeah you're right twenty five ocho okay you was right okay first offense twenty five ocho joe this is right up your alley dylan brooks was simultaneously regretful you that he could not finish sunday's game against the lakers after an ejection and also critical of both certain calls and lebron james here's what dylan had to say about lebron today oo and joe i guess he he's a social media junkie he be all over the social so he be saying i guess what i'm saying and when i go out there.
Iso Joe
And and he thinks like i told you he thinks that people should think away about him not say nothing about him or you know play a certain way and i'm not going to play.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That way so he gets in his moods or in his modes or whatever.
Iso Joe
It is and i'm all for that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I wish we let him shoot that.
Iso Joe
Shot and now would have been a.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hairball.
Joe Johnson
Hey hey hey joe hey joe you know better than me uncle you probably know better than me too i mean what's what they have animosity and they've been having animosity for a very long time it's it's two a them two always going at it kind of.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
One sided with the animosity though go.
Iso Joe
Ahead joe yeah yeah that's what i'm gonna say it's more like dylan dylan's more the agitator ocho yeah but the agitator has added something to it yes it ain't just defense and agitate you and try to get you out your game he putting them numbers up this year offensively he getting to it he getting to the chicken ocho he ain't playing he putting that ball in the hole man and on top of that you know the way he plays you know he's such an emotional defensive player and he knows when he played lebron he know how great lebron is but he gonna bring it to him meaning like he's gonna be he's gonna dictate how physical this game is gonna be.
Joe Johnson
Right right right grimy is gonna be.
Iso Joe
I respect i respect how he play and obviously how he get down he's added like i said offensive package to his game he a threat now yeah.
Joe Johnson
He'S a defensive guy though right jo.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah but he had an offense yeah you know look he he keep talking about social media but he read because the knock on lebron that he was fragile mentally and so what did guys try to do what the lance stevenson try to do he was blowing in his ear he was grabbing his jersey he was doing all those things to agitate him kind of like allah dennis rodman so that's what he's trying to do because he knows if he just goes in there and just says okay i'm gonna d you up that's not gonna happen i've gotta do something to get you off your game like you and i ocho hey we talking that talking ain't just for us it's to agitate you the whole oh i wish i got something for it yeah okay yeah but you don't got oo you supposed to be in the flat but don't worry about it come on run down the field with me we dump it to the back you chasing behind you and you think you got me covered bro you don't see that back we just picked up twenty thanks to you d so that's what you know dylan is saying he says he likes to poke the bear you remember he was in memphis show and braun dropped forty on i ain't got no respect for him and until he dropped forty and what did lebron do to his ass the next game drop forty on his head and send him packing see he catching lebron see he's catching lebron in year nineteen twenty twenty one twenty two lebron would have lebron would have dropped thirty thirty five in the series on it if he'd have caught him in in year one through fifteen but he catched lebron on the tail end and lebron still gave him twenty six what are you talking about lebron gave you twenty six at forty.
Iso Joe
Hey hey the one thing i respect though uncle ocho about brooks dylan brooks is that he don't do this just against lebron he does this against everybody everybody everybody he played you got somebody on your team who supposed to be like that he's gonna agitate he gonna be in their face he gonna do them extra little bumps uncle ocho you know how you know you might running down the court he might just give you a little shoulder or something right and that's how he plays man that's that's that's.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Part of his game he's an agitator so you hey you know yeah you know when they wait he he's trying to guard the best the the polling team's best player if they play an okc he won't shay if they're playing if they're playing when luca was in dallas he's going to try to deal up with with luca you know he's going to try to try to guard jason tatum he's going to try he what he prides himself on being a defensive guy and so he's going to try to take their best player hold.
Joe Johnson
On he undersized though so he basically.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like draymond green he's shorter than draymond draymond six' six i mean dylan brooks how tall dylan brooks like six four.
Iso Joe
Joe yeah he about six five yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
About six but he but he's he's strong he's strong ocho yeah yeah he.
Iso Joe
He playing he he ain't ocho he playing with a lot of confidence and like i said man his job is to take that challenge he's six seven.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Joe for the opposing team yeah i thought i didn't think i didn't know.
Iso Joe
He was that tall yeah he take he taking a challenge every game it don't matter who they play yeah he takes so respect to him i know i know unc don't like him getting.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Off in lebron it don't bother me because lebron lebron be cooking him because.
Iso Joe
You know what you know what it does do it makes lebron go to another level whether he admits it or not he know he had to lock.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
In a lot harder when he played.
Iso Joe
Against he like this joke out here on this bs i gotta go and.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Get to it but locking in well also ocho i'll let you finish your point but locking in without getting outside of himself because it's easy one time you saw what he did hey man he ran slap over dylan brooks.
Iso Joe
Hey look cause he can only take so much after dylan brooks made the ball hit him in his head yeah and he done walked by him and the shoulder checked him he like all right enough is enough enough is enough yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah and see the thing see the thing is is that lebron let a lot of that stuff go go for too long and so now people now they try i mean he on the tail end now he own him he don't really care and he's like lebron would always say look if i get thrown out and he gets thrown out who loses right my team if i get if i get the toss from a game unless if me unless it's me and kd or me and steph curry or me and luca it doesn't make sense right the the the trade off ain't ain't equal and so he always has to be mindful of that they ain't tossing i mean football we ain't talking we talking they ain't gonna toss nobody unless you know you know cheap shot head or something like that other than that but for the most part we talking on your day nobody go all right guys cut it out now tell this to cut it out but look he's added i think the thing is when he was at memphis they say look we want you to defend we got guys that can score jaw and jaren jackson oh you score when he's in houston still they had shingoon they had van fleet they had thompson he was still like the fourth option now dylan brooke and so basically it's him and and book yeah yeah so he's getting opportunities to shoot the balls he's not being told now don't shoot that shot nah that's not what we want you to do we don't want you to stand in the corner oh at plus and they had desmond bain so now he the fourth option you got john bane and jared jackson hit a fourth option on every night he the fourth option he goes to houston very similar situation they got kd well he didn't play with kd they got shingon they got thompson almond thompson they got van fleet yeah so guess.
Iso Joe
What joe and the kid the kid they traded to phoenix oh jaylen green yeah jaylen green yeah he been hurt he been hurt and d book has been hurt a little bit this year and he just kind of he stepped into that role just all right i'm i'm gonna come out and get to.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It and so and they got this i i forget this this kid's name but he's been balling the the white kid from from phoenix yeah i know.
Iso Joe
You'Re talking about i watched him play.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Against minnesota yeah man hey he been he been balling but you know a lot of these guys sometimes you have to have guys that play a role and there are a lot of like and i told people this i said man look austin reaves on a bad team austin reeves could average twenty five points man he can't i say look what he's doing he's playing as the third option with anthony davis and lebron james and he's giving you twenty you mean to tell me if he's not the first or second option like what he is right now look at what he's doing when lebron and luke is out forty four thirty eight forty five forty he nice so he has so like when you playing on a quality team and if you are score you have to suppress your natural instincts to go score because that's not what they need you for at a particular time right colin gillespie yes yes yes yeah gillespie yes yeah man he been hey he been letting it fly sometimes all.
Iso Joe
You need is opportunity that's it that's.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It and so yeah dylan brooks hey he plays hard he plays he plays hard now he has the game offensively and maybe he always had it was just never allowed to show it you know sometimes you know people have things be like and they're not allowed to show it now he gets an opportunity to show like okay you can shoot that shot.
Iso Joe
Yeah and and getting and getting and getting a little more comfortable out there you know knowing his way around the court and his confidence just it's oozing and on the offensive end yeah like he's looking he's looking he's.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Looking to school be aggressive he's looking.
Iso Joe
To get yeah he's looking to score so it's it's been amazing watch what.
Joe Johnson
You got what's that bro goddamn dun beetle in the house man a dung.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Beetle i give i tell you what if you eat it you could you could keep the five thousand nine hundred.
Joe Johnson
Hell no.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh man you we come on oo.
Iso Joe
Boy fell out on the floor that boy would have threw that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Thing but nah but look this is this is everything everything with lebron is always you try to get physical you've seen that's what guys try to do they try to play in physical try to beat him to the point not let him get comfortable don't definitely don't let him elevate make him settle yeah he wants to shoot threes he wants to shoot turnaround jumpers you gotta live with that because if he shoot if he's hitting threes and turnaround jumpers you got no chance cause if you hug up he going by you he still has the ability to get by you now he can't get by you with the ease that he once could and he can't drive continuously like he once could cause it takes a lot out of it but if he's hitting that three if he got that three ball ocho and we saw in philly when he hit ten straight points to close that game yeah you're just like oh lord it's just one of those nights i mean i don't know what y' all want me to do yeah now.
Iso Joe
If he if he making that jump shot uncle ocho yeah mid range three mid range don't matter like it's gonna be it's gonna be hard to guard him you just gonna have to live.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
With the results yeah cause if you if you hug up on him he going by you oh yeah he's still he's still he's still capable of doing that but i you know i ain't gotta i i like dylan brooks game i like his game yeah and now that he has offense to go with that defense because i'm like bro you doing a lot of talking just to be a defensive guy and people don't come to see defensive guys so you have to you have to do something you have to pull a dennis rodman you got to paint your hair you have to wear a wedding dress you have to do something if you want to get the attention like dennis rodman you got you got to you got to have a niche yeah d d was that boy yeah i mean dennis dennis rob was sixty seven and led the league in rebounding like eight nine times did robin have eighteen rebounds a game.
Iso Joe
Yeah crazy that's all you thinking about oh if you if you average eighteen rebounds a game that's the only thing you think about when the ball go up you trying to figure out.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How can i get yeah dennis robert would have twenty plus rebounds and no points.
Joe Johnson
Hey and knowing exactly where the ball gonna bounce understanding where that ball hit and knowing where yeah he told.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
A story that he would just watch he would just watch people shoot he's just like stand up on the rim and just watch and see where the ball would hit okay it's going there okay they're going there okay hit that go in there and like okay shoot a three okay boom so he could tell like with the ball where the ball's gonna go and hey he gonna get it that's what he's gonna do he's gonna get it but dylan brooks man you definitely has improved your game and you were right he said hey people that believe in me and telling me not to shoot i got somebody to tell me to shoot the ball and i don't have to worry about if i shoot you know they shoot the ball two times in a row they're going to take me out of the game and you can you can tell you can tell it guys that he's playing with confidence the team believes in him and because when book was out he and gillespie they were still you know and grayson allen so brian said he got something for you when you come to la though he gonna be ready kevin ran says if he would have been told he could tear his achilles in the twenty nineteen finals he probably wouldn't have went out there let's take a listen what kd on fairbank fleet's new podcast what he actually.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Did you know did you.
Joe Johnson
Know that there was a possibility that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That could happen going into the game.
Joe Johnson
Like tyrese said tyrese halliburton said he kind of knew like it was a.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Chance it's game seven he gotta try did you have that feeling before or.
J
You felt good nah nah i mean achilles were were a thing you know like kobe had one but it wasn't a lot of achilles injuries around that time when you think about it so it wasn't really like i wasn't really thinking about you know what i'm saying that you know cat muscle can lead into that so i was just like i felt good i can run up and down the court i can move i can slide laterally yeah but looking back on it obviously i wasn't my my achilles wasn't ready for that type of load right you know what i'm saying but i wouldn't i mean i would i don't regret going out there and playing you know if i would have knew that information i probably made a better different decision but yeah it's.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Game five you kind of gotta do that you know now if they would have told you yeah if they'd have told me like ah you can you.
J
Can tell your achilles i probably wouldn't have went out there that wasn't even in the thought process like i ain't even nobody really even made me aware.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Of that.
Iso Joe
Joe he right you don't think you don't think the worst before you go out there but with them soft tissue injuries man it's like you know they kind of shut you down to a degree you don't really practice you don't really do much and they kind of save you for the game uncle ocho but the game going at two hundred miles per hour i ain't.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Even that you know what i'm saying.
Iso Joe
So when you have to play at that pace and you ain't accustomed to playing at that pace right due to injury like at some point something is bound to kind of give so i kind of see how it all kind of you know goes hand in hand.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah and a lot of times you you can see it jt you see that calf you see that thing ripple when they show it down you saw katie you see that thing like a guitar string just snap jason tatum you see it just snap somebody in football did theirs this year and you can see it ripple look had they told me like shannon like like concussions now ocho they know way more now than what we did cte wasn't no thing well they didn't even call it concussion oh you got your bell rung you got dinged yeah they didn't even call it concussion and so had they told me that shannon you know they're the long term effect mayor porter got to live today i worry about me tomorrow she gotta eat she gotta have a roof over her head i'm going out.
Iso Joe
There.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But just the way it is you got as players now all the players even though a lot of them got artificial hips and artificial knees and artificial shoulders and artificial ankles do it again all of them say they do.
Joe Johnson
It again do it again yeah they.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Do it again yep it's because you.
Iso Joe
Put so much time into it from since you was a little kid man and to get to this point it's hard to have a major injury and then just turn your back and be like you're gonna you're gonna at least.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because there's no ocho that i wouldn't have to have my there are people that never play football that got artificial hips got artificial knees so what's the g so can you guarantee me that if i don't play football that i'm never that i'm not going to have cte can you guarantee me that i'm not going to have to have my knees and my hips replaced my shoulder my ankle can you guarantee that because if you can't help you i'm gonna go get this bread i'm just keeping it real with you right i know some of this stuff probably had to do with me playing football my hips and stuff but i can't say that because guess what my sister got both of her hips replaced she ain't playing no damn football my brother got his replaced my brother had his hips replaced him when he was in his thirties he only played seven years i got both of mine replaced i was in my late forties early fifties so it is what it is it got me it got it was able what it was able to do for my family is probably something that my brother and i i don't know maybe hey i think i'd have been a very successful lawyer had i chosen that path but my heart wasn't it my my passion and my heart joe and ocho my heart and passion was being a professional football player yeah same that's what that's what i wanted to do i feel that's what god that was god what chose me when he touched me says pete and alice that boy there gonna be a football player.
Iso Joe
I got a question for y' all though for real when did y' all know that that y' all had a real real shot at making it to the nfl.
Joe Johnson
Santa monica junior college it took it took me to get to santa monica junior college and i i met a coach by the name of charles collins and charles collins told me if you keep working the way you working and you pay attention to what i'm teaching you and practice you got a real shot he got me to understand i had a real shot and so working with him and then i'm seeing the results of the work we putting in show up you know in games yeah like oh i got a shot and this is when i was you know i was in junior college uncle joe with steve smith senior yeah we on the same team you know and i'm seeing the results show up and then i got excited and i had become fascinated and enthusiastic about working out yeah and all the stuff he was showing me and once i got to oregon state and realized i can play you know at what i'd like to consider the highest level you know the pack pack pac ten back then pac twelve back then i was like oh this is it you know joe i was one for one joe i was one for one so i had no choice but to show up you know while i was there joy i got to that pac twelve joe and cut up every week against the best you know the oregon ducks and usc and washington state and at that moment once i got to oregon state and said okay you know what i can do this then that confidence started kicking in well it's.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Just like anything joe you was always better than everybody else you was always better in your high school and the surrounding areas you was always the best when coach davis came to recruit me he said son you could play in the nfl but i'm saying to myself man you're just telling me that cause you want me to come to savannah state and he saw the look that i gave him he said no son i've coached guys that go to the nfl and you got more talent than they got and sitting in my house you know i was embarrassed the screen door hanging you know the chair you know we got bricks to hold the chair so it doesn't you know doesn't lean and yeah he just say son you can play in the nfl and my sophomore year because my i started like five six games you know my freshman year me and a dude named squirrel who ended up being the ex receiver i was the z my sophomore year we alternated but my sophomore year i made all american i was black college all american i was offensive player conference player of the year offensive player of the year georgia player of the year and i just and we go to the black college all american banquet but back then they had a freedom bowl so the black colleges had a game where scouts would come it was just like it was just like the blue gray game ocho just like the senior bowl but it was black colleges and coach davis it was coach davis who was my coach willie jeffries who was the head coach at i think south carolina state wc gordon coach wc gordon who was jackson state coach rob from grambling the guy from archie cooley from mississippi valley state and he's like and all them guys so i was the only sophomore everybody else was the most i think i was the only sophomore i think they had like two maybe one two juniors and the rest was senior but i was the only sophomore and coach davis said and it's like they was talking and everybody was talking about their guys that was in the in the game gonna be playing coach david said i got the baddest in here and he a sophomore i promise you you'll see this boy playing on you know back then i'm over they they call you'll see this boy playing on sundays yeah yeah and i that's when i really that's when i like okay it really does like okay i can i can do this but by that time my brother getting all this attention i always wanted to be like my brother and so when they like man your brother could be a first round pick i like he'd go to the nfl i can go to the nfl he drank that he drunk out the well just like i did he went to go to the bathroom in the woods just like i did he ate squirrel and turtle and all that stuff just like i did so for me man please and i had an opportunity to transfer after my after my sophomore year coach davis say son we're not in the business to put to have you know develop kids to go to college go to another college he said but right i'm not gonna stand in your way he said but son you good enough they'll find you that's all i need to hear i walked out never crossed my mind again i told my brother my brother said well they didn't want you when you're coming out of high school why you want to go there now see they want you you already you're a finished product yeah they want you now but they didn't want you then so and then i got there but i was like man but hold on and then i saw like walter payton had went to black college jerry rice had gone to a black college i like the hell you say i can't go from here yeah now nobody had i mean we had a guy named bobby curtis he was a senior my freshman year and he ended up making the he was up with when they had to strike in eighty seven they called him up he ended up getting a super bowl ring and everything and i was like yeah i can play i can play the nfl that's what i i i and then you know playing guys that we played central florida and they had a wide receiver see i'm like most people tell me tell me my competition and i'll rise to the occasion right yeah right they had a they had a wide receiver they talk about he was rated very high i said i'm better than him i'm better than him okay i'm gonna show it he was a senior i was a junior i was a sophomore cooked them they beat us but i beat them you know sometimes you got to win you sometimes you got to win your individual battle ocho you hey yeah i'm sorry i'm one person i ain't twenty one other people right but it's hard to say that hey did i lose a couple yeah they got me a couple of times but more times than not out of forty after how many games i play out of forty total games i'm probably about thirty seven three.
J
Oh.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah and that's because i ain't getting no touchdown you know what i'm saying because i caught a pass in like thirty nine straight games had a touchdown in twenty one straight games oh y' all were cooking yeah yeah yeah yeah i see the look behind your guy you're like damn oh you're dead yeah.
Joe Johnson
I see are you listen you was out there doing what you do now i ain't gonna lie to you yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And so but i had to joe man them circumstances man that's all me and my brothers you talk about all the time man that house growing up i mean you see that man i was just like like i said i never had anybody i've never had i've never spent the night at someone's house growing up never i've never had someone outside now my cousins will spend up spend the night over to the house but they were in the same situation we were in they had no running water either hell yeah they have no plumbing either so what they go what they what they gonna make fun about so i was like i had to i had to man like i said i was in glenville my body was in glenville my mind was a thousand miles away guys i say it's calling me i say i noticed something out here better than shannon sharp and then ocho i saw miami vice i saw versace i saw linen pants i saw silk shirts i saw rolexes i saw ferrari i said that's it yeah that's it that's it that's it i got hey i got that habit and then you know what used to come on every saturday ocho and joe lifestyle of the rich and famous and i'm your host robin lake yes sir what you know about that champagne witch of encounter dreams a life of luxury boy that's classic man they talk about rodeo never heard of no rodeo drive hey i call it rodeo rodeo drive that's where i'm going i say i got to have it yeah man i remember them days my brother brother went to the league and i saw what you know he got a my brother got his first car he got a m he got an m three i was like man i said man i sure wish i sure wish i could drive it he left left it with left it with me two weeks ain't got licensed the first i had licensed then i was eighty eight yeah cause he got it i had just got license no i had license i got license because coach all wouldn't let me grab he was my driver's ed coach my high school coach was my driver's ed coach he was also my mom's coach so my high school coach was my mom coach my mom graduated in sixty i graduated eighty six so he still was coaching so and then i got to savannah state ocho so i had to z remember i told you i had the z that i let my girl drive yeah and then he would come back i would drive to south carolina i would drive back a strosik porsche i'd drive a slant nose back i drive a big body benz back he had a tight man you couldn't hit me in the ass with a red apple joe how you boy you could tell me that you gave tell me hey tell me ain't it you but you better not tell me hey shadow sharp ain't it cause i'm here and.
Joe Johnson
You were cutting up back then huh.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What i said i got that but see let me tell you how my brother knows me he knows what motivates me hey hey man won't you come up i called him up because i i stayed in the dorm now i could have stayed off campus but why i'm gonna stay off campus and that money that he's sending me i'm gonna pay for rent and gotta buy groceries right no i'm gonna stay by asking this little ass dorm eat free and keep that money in my pocket so he would he would call me he would call me guys i would call him on the phone hey man what you doing i said man i ain't doing nothing man you ought to come on up here and get one of the cars oh ain't even got no stick but it sound like a stick you were gone huh man i'm gone man you mean to tell me i get an opportunity to drive one hundred fifty zero zero zero porsche at an hbcu oh yeah i got a he got a white slant nose a porsche with navy interior.
Iso Joe
Boy showing out down.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
There man please that was it boy baby hey be it old buck old bucket but it was italian so that's it that's what i knew but i knew i really really knew joe my sophomore year nineteen eighty seven that's what i knew i said okay yeah i was like damn because no receiver in savannah state history had ever had a thousand yards nobody had ever been played conference player of the year i was conference player of the year i was offensive player of the year i was first team black college all american i made and then my senior i made kodak all american and kodak they used to send you a camera that had kodak all american on it my sister still got it still got the camera i don't know did it i don't even know if they still got i ain't seen nobody take a picture with a regular camera in so long but it look look look camera like this and they got kodak all american on the back but nineteen eighty seven i knew joe i knew but i knew i had to go before then because i saw mary porter surroundings i see how i grow up i was like nah this ain't it yeah this ain't it it'll motivate yeah and i had a bumper's a nineteen eighty seven ocho i had a bumper sticker how many hbcu you guys know ssc flies air sharp in eighty seven oh look at them so they put they put all they put the bumper stickers that you give you the press guy you know you come and sit down you see the thing right had the bumper stickers in there how many how many hbcu guys you know had a bumper sticker.
Joe Johnson
Okay i see i see you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Polo.
Joe Johnson
I bet you ain't still got it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Lee jeans levi's calvin klein yeah for.
Joe Johnson
Sure come on now okay you ain't had no troop though the hell no.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man they want no troop by that time if you'd have polo or alligator i wouldn't do with the fox you remember fox used to be a thing too i ain't want no fox i ain't want no little tiger they had a little thing like little i think they call the tiger now i want that if it ain't had that gator or did have that man on the horse yeah man okay i had eyes on socks i had a matching belt to match what oh yeah jeans hey oh so i'm walking like frankenstein i got so much starch in my jeans i could barely bit my legs i could barely be my leg joe.
Joe Johnson
You.
Iso Joe
Had it you had that shirt tucked.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
In did i stuff a stuff down hey matter of fact have a have my shirt pulled out of my drawer you know what i'm saying make sure it don't come out oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Joe Johnson
That'S when you're going to church when you go deep.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah i remember ocho terence crawford boxer pound for pound king announced his retirement from the sport last night with a perfect forty two zero record thirty one wins coming by way of knockout a five division champion a three division undisputed champion he won the undisputed championship in the junior welterweight welterweight and super middleweight the only man in the four belt era to accomplish such a feat he's the only man to unify the bills at one hundred sixty sixty eight only manny pacquiao oscar de la hoya can claim more world titles and weight classes than crawford who was a perfect twenty and zero and fifteen kos in title fights if this is the end what does this where do you rank bud crawford ocho as far as all time.
Joe Johnson
Greats i mean listen we talk about all time gracies up there as far as the numerical order to put them in i really can't do that because i mean there's so many others that are worthy of that but he's up there with the best but this is not the end we know better than that most players do this they i mean most fighter most fighters do this they retire and say they're not coming back and they come back depending on the fight if it's in when the when he does come back and comes out of retirement it's going to be a mega fight many fighters always retire hang up the gloves and say that they're done terence bud crawford is not.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Done fighting not done fighting make the price go up give me a number to make me come out of retirement.
Joe Johnson
Yep come on now now you're talking.
Iso Joe
He didn't turn this value up hey.
Joe Johnson
It'S all it's all the way up he's the a side too at that not only is he the a side he can command one hundred million and up based on his last fight but.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know but and that that's.
Joe Johnson
What that's what he's done so he's not going to be retired he gonna be he'll fight sometime in twenty twenty six and when he fights in twenty twenty six it'll probably be somewhere towards.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The end of the year canelo said that he wanted to fight in september the question is i don't know who else he can fight to command that kind of payday because look nobody draws eyes like canelo the question is can cause he's not going to take look canelo got what he got deservedly so based on everything he's done but based on everything that i've done and i beat canelo's ass now i need to be in canelo's shoes where he i need to be where canelo was when i took the fight yeah yeah well.
Joe Johnson
That that's what that's what it's going to be regardless that's what it's going to be and the person that's going to be make that fight it's going.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
To be half turkey it's got to.
Joe Johnson
Be turkey turkey he's going to be the one to make it and and turkey understands that as well as the way business goes and the way boxing goes once you beat the a side you become a side right so when that fight does happen if if it is if it is canelo or maybe he gives us the fight we all been waiting to see is is him and jaron ennis and he gets he takes i mean listen it's high risk is high risk low reward in a.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Sense i don't believe that's one hundred million dollar fight for bud shouldn't me.
Joe Johnson
Yeah it is yeah yes it is yes it is because the risk that he's willing to take but that well.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nobody clamoring to see boots in his.
Joe Johnson
Everybody is clamoring to see boots and bud fight on trust me i'm telling.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You i believe the only person that can get that kind of get that payday for him is canelo why let me ask you a question if he could have got one hundred million why the hell did he fight canelo then why would he go up three weight classes instead of staying right there and fighting the guy at one hundred fifty.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'M just asking okay i'm saying let's just say if that was the case why would he go three weight classes to fight a guy that at that weight ain't been touched why not fight boots at one hundred and fifty four if you could get one hundred.
Joe Johnson
Million because you got to get you you got to get your money you got to beat the a side to get to get that kind of money huh you gotta fight canelo and beat canelo to be able to command.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No it's booster b side think about it what's what you think let me ask you a question what do you.
Joe Johnson
Think boost is up and coming huh.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Boost is upcoming you ain't getting for no up and comer it ain't never happening it's never going to happen see.
Joe Johnson
You you're not you're not understanding he's now the a side regardless of who he chooses to fight the next best.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
In the game is boots don't draw mayweather did not start getting paydays until when who did he have to fight to get the payday de la hoya okay not once he fought de la hoya two thousand i think it's two thousand five now everybody they wanted to see him fight who the name that he fought pacquiao ricky hatton but ricky hatton was a draw ricky hatton was dropping people pacquiao was dropping people shane mosley was dropping people look at the people that he was fighting boost ain't got no name like any of them.
Joe Johnson
Hold on are we watching the same fights are we watching i'm watching the.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ratings i'm watching the ratings i'm watching the ratings draws i'm watching the fight i'm watching the fighter oo it's about.
Joe Johnson
Eyeballs i'm watching the fighter and understanding.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The fight let me ask you this the cowboys are the let me ask you a question tell you what hold.
Joe Johnson
On hold on i tell you what i tell you what i tell you what let's have this conversation at the.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Booth walk through virgil ortiz let me ask you this are the cowboys as good as the patriots are the cowboys as good as the broncos now which one of those teams drew fifty seven million.
Joe Johnson
Oh i like i like where you're going see i like how you did that see hey that's why hey that's why you i see i like.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How you did that that's i like how you did this i want that bro you got to draw people see mayweather was gonna get because mayweather was the draw so people gonna watch because it's mayweather but when he found hatton look at what he did to hat he ran through hat look at what he did to what look at what he did to barrera mosley yeah hey.
Joe Johnson
But but let me tell you something this is the way the business is it's always been like this remember how you talked about the eighties the best for the best but now it's a little different we talk about draw the people in the boxing world want to see the best fight the best now when we talk about best stylistically boots is one of the best stylistically you can't take that away from us boots is one of the best i mean i mean excuse me bud is one of the best stylistically it makes it a great fight now one of the monkey riches that we throw in there is boots is up and coming why would bud want to take that fight it does nothing for him he would.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If you could guarantee him one hundred million he take it i got there.
Joe Johnson
I i guarantee you turkey will give.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Him that honey goddamn me because he's not he's not big enough only one that's why that's why bub was smart what did bud say from the very start ain't but one man out there i want to fight who was that ocho because he know canelo if canelo's making sixty five seventy million dollars hold on let me ask you a question how would you think boots hold on.
Joe Johnson
Hold on wait wait before you before you say that why you think everybody called canelo out why do you think benavidez called him out everybody calls him out because they understand he's a cash cow how can i make my biggest payday i have to fight the cash.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cow right so call do it so that's what i'm trying to tell you boots does nothing for bud i get why boots would want it because it's going to be his biggest payday ever.
Joe Johnson
Right so i get why i get.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Why boots want this fight but bud like bro why would i want to fight a guy to make twenty million when i just made fifty million.
Joe Johnson
That'S that's that's that's that's the business that's the way it is now just in general i would just i'm just stating what would be a good fight stylistically in general that's all you know i i but but the way the business work it is hard it's hard you have someone up and coming and someone that's already at the top why in the hell am i dipping down and it does nothing for me that's just the way the business works hell even floyd had to go through that oh.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Excuse me even floyd had to go through that he fought he fought who did he fight he fought kodo he fought what's the lefty name what's the lefty the ball head super judah think about who he followed him guys fault guys don't want to fight no because as andre ward said guys are not about legacies see the bud is about his legacy guys are about money now now that bud's legacy is complete i ain't fighting for nothing but money and if you can't be if you can't generate if you can't guarantee me a honda i ain't worth my time because.
Iso Joe
They definitely don't want their l no.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Record no no so if i gotta if i gotta risk it ocho you won't risk it for five million you gonna risk shark infested water for five million or a hundred million well i.
Joe Johnson
Already already said it though i said it would be a great fight but i said he's not going to take it no i'm i'm speaking oh you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Wanted your silence okay i see what.
Joe Johnson
You'Re saying oh my god oh my goodness what yeah both of them switch hitters oh my man hey unc man listen that thing that thing you be.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Southpaw stance you don't say switch hitters.
Joe Johnson
I like saying switches because they can fight from both stands yeah but you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Know switch hitters mean a different thing in different places but okay i get what you're saying oh my bad my.
Joe Johnson
Bad.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho ocho okay okay here we go step right up what happened study reveals that the average size penis in the us state hey hey hey paul hold on pause men from alabama you know your boy part of the alabama black state i'm just saying ojo i'm just saying i'm just saying i just said lit seven point four four inches while west virginia comes in second at seven inches the other end of the scale delaware who said average inches is about five point two two this is closely followed by new mexico with the bottom five arkansas damn oh joe joe i was saying i hope you from alabama i told you this early remember i told him yeah what they trying what they trying to say i sure hope you i sure hope you from you know you just you move you was born in alabama but you moved to arkansas at a young age man.
Iso Joe
When they who doing these studies bro.
Joe Johnson
Hey hey hey hey and joe you know i don't i don't i don't know anything about any studies you know my my my my reputation in general it precedes itself so i i just this ain't yeah that that that i don't know about that one no.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Florida is in the top six at six point eight five yeah we i mean i'm you know but oh alabama or alabino you know that alabama black snake.
Joe Johnson
Yeah you know you know hey sometimes someone thing they say about study sometimes they be off a little bit well.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey hey that old alabama blacksmith come out you know what i'm saying that's it you know what i'm saying hey hey hey hey would the baby the.
Joe Johnson
Baby all come out hey hold on hey how you came how you came out again high school hey how you how you rap around how you wrap the chord around again that was so funny boy oh but hey that had me dying oh that had me dying.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey hey joe man say well with the ultra cable to the cowboy saw it boy said it's time to wrap.
Iso Joe
It up.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh boy hey hey that's a wild story there oh hey listen.
Joe Johnson
I think it's funny i can reflect back and i can laugh about it today you know i i wasn't mad joe i was just disappointed because they told you know when when people tell you something they tell you for a reason especially when you're that young you know you think you know i'm thinking that i'm that boy i'm on the football team i'm one of the star players ain't nobody gonna do nothing to me boy i'm him i'm feeling hold.
Iso Joe
On hold on hold on but you said you say her head was mashed.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Up against the thing yeah yeah he had in the back seat he had.
Joe Johnson
In the back seat joe yeah the ponytail it kept hitting the rear view mirror you know dude dude had a little small little car a little smaller car like a little datsun like a little dots little cheat little cheap little datsun yeah yeah joe it ain't any i at that day i wasn't scarred i was disappointed but i became a.
Iso Joe
Different individual you were scarred bro it's okay it's okay it's okay because see i know it turns you into a savage you you walk into something like.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That yeah you have after that man hey yo after he had to unwind all that come on come on come on now come on now not the chat hey chad i ain't got nothing to do with it oh lord y'.
Joe Johnson
All shout out man it got hot.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Here all the look let me take this last little squig for you oh.
Iso Joe
Every time oo tell this story he.
Joe Johnson
Started talking about it oh look it's all good you know j unc throwing a little throwing a little exaggeration on you know it's all good hey that's that was a good one.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I would we gotta fight what's his name ocho we gonna fight him and have more we have come on nightcap hey his.
Joe Johnson
Name his name pierre pierre pierre saint john yeah pierre i wonder i wonder where pierre at man pierre saint john.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If anybody can find him his internet.
Joe Johnson
Can oh yeah yeah they could they could oh goddamn pierre man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But joe joe is originally from alabama he just you know he's he formative years i'm.
Iso Joe
Now i'm claim where i'm from them that thing ain't right though you know who doing all this come on now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh man wyoming we got what you call they got they got what you call them the stats hey you know y' all know where i'm originally from.
Iso Joe
Where you where you originally from you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Know you know i spent a little time in alabama yeah i was born i was born in illinois oh you.
Iso Joe
Was born in illinois.
Joe Johnson
Wow what a.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Time hey brother from delaware i can help you out get on the sparks i mean whatever you got you'll reach your full potential isn't that what it's about yeah now i ain't gonna say it's gonna be like pierre i ain't gonna say it gonna be that but but i'm just saying amen we can help adam dave if prescribed new sexual health patients get fifteen off their first order of rose barks on a reoccurring plan connect with the provider at ro co nightcap to find if the prescription roast barks are right for you there it is right there right there on your thing you see it right there delaware we can help that's all i'm saying we can help you don't show.
Iso Joe
Them things work ojo oh yeah oh.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely hey listen joe i pop one on the show i pop one on the show you hear me i pop one to show the other i think for two weeks ago you know before before we started now you know we go about two hours i wanted to make sure that thing marinated i want to make sure boys hey so it makes hey make sure get to the blood you hear me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But i'm telling you boy look at i get on that spark in there like swimwear hey.
Joe Johnson
Joe i let that thing marinate the whole show joe you hear me sis was up there she you know she waiting she ain't had no idea she was sleep joe i tell you no lie i lie for you before i lie to you joe right what it's a good thing she had insurance you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cut up yeah.
Joe Johnson
Boy she hit she touched every corner in every corner every.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Corner in the house man you ain't supposed to do mama like that oh.
Joe Johnson
No oh no sometimes oh you gotta let sometimes you gotta yeah give give her a good understanding because i'm kind of kind of i'm kind of on the old side now huh i'm kind of on the old side so i can't get up i can't i can't get them kind of performances all the time right once every six months i had you thinking joe once every six.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Months back in this is a different type of enhancement enhancer but it was like it had to be two thousand three two thousand four i'm still in my i'm still good joe i'm still good yeah you know yeah i will you know you know i want to you know show up what what i already know walk up in that thing ocho you know what i'm saying yeah i put it on her i put it on a good job when i say i put it on her yeah i put it on her now when i'm gonna see you guys i'm gonna come back but you know i went back the second time joe i ain't had that in my system it wasn't the same kind of theatrical performance that i had before you know what i'm.
Iso Joe
Saying you know what i'm saying and.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The first one it was probably like a denzel or tom hanks yeah or daniel day lewis performance it was one of those performances this last one probably was like a tom green or david spade type of performance you wanted old you know what i'm saying hey so i called him i called you know i said hey you know i said you know what's up you know say you know can i come back you know when can i see you again she say when you free i said well you know i i work work around your schedule she said what about friday i said okay i'll see you friday joe i swear right hand of god she say bring that dick you had the first time that's okay what a god joe i swear to god.
Iso Joe
Hey hey see let me tell you something see that what you get when you lay your best pipe down in the rent house you don't plan on buying it you just plan on renting it for for a little while hey.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But but you got to make that first impression because you never know if that's gonna be the first or the last that it might be it you.
Iso Joe
You want to show out there yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Sir yes sir yes sir hey hey boy boy so but hey joe i got you i got you joe so you just make you just make sure you open the trophy i promise you in two weeks you'll see another trophy sitting on the mantle sitting on the mantle another one oh joe it's time to play play a fave presented by prize picks here's the staff three pick power play ahead of tomorrow's thursday night game oh joe kyron williams will have fifty six yards rushing tomorrow fifty six who they playing huh seattle play seattle play the rams rams in seattle.
Joe Johnson
That'S gonna be a good game.
Iso Joe
Rams in.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Seattle.
Iso Joe
Yeah i'm i'm gonna say yeah i'm saying boy playing for something man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This this actually this is for the takeover to lead for the conference yeah.
Iso Joe
I got him yeah i got him.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Getting down ocho what you thinking ocho yeah seattle good rush defense.
Iso Joe
You put eight up there in that box you want to that boy gonna be picking.
Joe Johnson
You off oh yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'M gonna go under in rush defense you taking it under yeah but but they but but they kind of split him and sharbono all right ash if you don't hear y' all blame ash.
Iso Joe
Is he taking the under i'm taking over all right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We going over he gonna have fifty six yards all right puka nakua will have at least one touchdown oo hell.
Joe Johnson
Yeah i would care i wouldn't care who they were playing he finish school.
Iso Joe
I know uncle agreeing with that goddamn.
Joe Johnson
Puga cutting up boy you you nervous.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
On you yeah no hold on hold on blake corwin blake corbin that's who it is he shares he shares carrots with him though.
Iso Joe
Hold on you talking about pooka still i'm going back i'm.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Gonna say i'm saying he going under chad what y' all think what y' all think chat y' all think he get fifty six yards rushing i' ma let the chat pick y' all say gonna get fifty six yards puka puka man they got spoon they got wolin ocho they that secondary man man listen.
Joe Johnson
I listen i don't care who they got they put they put puka they put puka naku in position to make play the same way they do jsn the same way they did cooper cup he's he's scoring.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right ocho say score let's take a rasheed shahid thirty six yards receiving.
Joe Johnson
Thirty six yeah he gonna get he gonna get throwing in.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The ball like that though ocho yeah.
Joe Johnson
But but he he's so fast and the plays he have is gonna be something explosive i'm telling you what you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Call them jfa ain't gonna get them.
Joe Johnson
Targets now yeah but rashid shahid gonna get something deep.
Iso Joe
Yeah all right i.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Say going over so let's take the over i told hey i told you he going more so he's gonna have more than thirty six yards puking the cool will have at least one touchdown and kyron williams bam i' ma go over i'm gonna take over more more he'll have more than fifty six yards twenty five to win one hundred thirty one point two five download the app today use code shannon to get fifty in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup prize picks it's good to be right all right we will get you out on this and it's time to play our final segment of the evening it's time for q and a leon hill said let's go nightcap dale the dumb d says love the big three what's up iso good or bad what was your welcome to the league moment where you said dang it's different on this level.
Iso Joe
My welcome to the league moment it happened i think it was like my third or fourth game my rookie year we played against the washington wizards that's the year michael jordan came back uh oh and uncle ocho i idolized this man since i was a kid so to get a chance to play against him when he came back was like it was surreal to me i didn't even get no sleep the night before because i knew he was my matchup i had to guard him for the first three quarters okay and then paul pierce gardner for the fourth quarter right so the whole time i'm thinking about the game plan and what i got to do stay down on pump fakes this that and the third man i'm going for pump face he and one all right hey look you know how you could just be overzealous and just going for every little move that's kind of right you.
Joe Johnson
Were going for everything joe man i.
Iso Joe
Was because i was so geeked up ocho right in my head i felt like his moves was gonna be a lot faster than what i was going to anticipate right and i think he was forty years old at the time i was twenty yeah man it was it was it was a surreal moment.
Joe Johnson
Though how many scored on you joe.
Iso Joe
He had thirty one ojo god damn joe he shot it like twenty seven times twenty eight times with thirty one.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That'S all you can that's all you.
Iso Joe
Can ask for okay mid range assassins oh yeah boy i'd never forget that game.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn hoodie gym rat said bud is not fighting boost because bud isn't dropping weight to fight him he's been there done that bud versus devin haney what i want man bud what devin haney don't want to see buddy yeah.
Iso Joe
He ain't gonna fight but i mean.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You'Re gonna have to go i mean you're gonna have to probably go i mean to fight bud ocho you gotta be at least one hundred sixty bud ain't going back down not to know not to know one hundred fifty not no one hundred fifty four one hundred forty seven hold on he got a.
Iso Joe
He got a better chance of fighting.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Boots than bud don't he yeah then.
Joe Johnson
Devin haney no man that's devin haney.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Too small you know for boots for.
Odoo Advertiser
Bud.
Joe Johnson
Can make one hundred and sixty.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Eight yeah moving up is easier than coming down yeah yeah i mean that's what that's what killed roy when roy went up remember when roy went up to heavyweight wave one hundred ninety three yeah and then he had to come all the way back down way back back down yeah oh bad boy scripting danny junior nfl doing a draft lottery is needed no tanking yeah well who you think the giants the jets who you think tanking cleveland.
Joe Johnson
Hey hey all all three need to be under investigation.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
True and influence getting traded which is probably not going to happen where would he end up i mean he got fifty four million guaranteed next year ojo ain't going nowhere oh he getting about it there.
Joe Johnson
You think they're gonna eat that you think they're gonna eat that dead cap that dead money yep damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho you don't ocho a guy that's been your starter for the better part of four five years and you bench him the last three games of the season he ain't coming back you right.
Joe Johnson
You right you right you right hey see remember there i go again using my heart instead of my mind see.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We just saw this three years ago what did denver do with russ yeah.
Joe Johnson
Yeah same money right you're right you're.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right slick underscore as butter hey ocho you can have dylan gabriel lefty lefty.
Joe Johnson
Nah we good well hell hey we can have shador since they want to.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Play games you take shador huh yeah.
Iso Joe
I gotta place i got a place.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
For shador oh you want to go.
Iso Joe
To the cowboys nah atl man they.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Got a first round pick joe you got phoenix junior the man just got he gotta have acl surgery what you.
Iso Joe
Want them these folks ain't trying to sit around here man you know it's a football town these folks ain't playing you know what happened if shador come here you know what happened they'll turn this city upside down boy what he.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Better get he better get well soon haba bdeck ocho my wife and i are visiting miami for three days next week any must do recommendations i love to check out your favorite cuban spot.
Joe Johnson
Yeah must do recommendations obviously i'm not sure where you stand but havana cuban cuisine is right here in davie right off flamingo and griffin i mean pine island and griffin havana cubic cuisine what else what else restaurants another place i want you to try for breakfast it's called little hen so cuban spot little hen for breakfast that's easy to remember and probably dinner go to the mai kai for dinner go to the mai kai restaurant enjoy the show make sure you make reservations so both of you can enjoy the polynesian show i heard you were really you were really yeah you will really enjoy that you won't have to take that trip all the way to hawaii to experience it you can experience it right here in miami havana cuban cuisine little hen for breakfast the mai kai for dinner tell them.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho sent you sheldon pope said ocho do you think miami has a shot at getting john morant before the trade deadline with the heat infrastructure and the influencers like yourself and the hip hop artists who love the heat will that help bring the joy back to him ocho joe that's for you guys i.
Joe Johnson
Mean well listen for one i talked to john i talked to john on multiple occasions i talked to pat riley i talked to mickey harrison i think it would be and it it behoove john moran to make that move here if he sees fit due to the structural environment and the discipline that pat my pat riley commands i think it would be good for him it'd be a great environment would be great for him because he can't be too loose you can do your thing but you can't be too loose you know and i think the structure that that we add and can give him organizationally will pay dividends for his career long term.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What you think joe you think that's a good place for him i think.
Iso Joe
It could be a good place for him i think it'll rejuvenate rejuvenate his.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
His love for the game you know.
Iso Joe
His love for the game his passion for the game miami is a it's a tough place to play if you ain't got no discipline that's all i'm gonna say like you know i i've i've played there and you know they expect a lot out of their players man so you know that's a hell of a city to be in boy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah if he had that wilder like that in memphis i can imagine what miami gonna be like that's the only.
Iso Joe
Thing i can think that's the only.
Joe Johnson
Thing no no no no no no no hey joe he gonna be good he gonna he gonna be good listen we got hey joe listen to me we gonna get him twenty four hour security you know we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna monitor where he goes so you can't go nowhere in miami and pat ain't gonna know you can't go nowhere in miami and patting or no it doesn't matter what establish you go into that phone hey yeah your boy in here you gotta he good you got him you said you good you good see in memphis you can't in memphis you can't control that in miami you can control that because everybody know everybody and all the people with that kind of status go to the same places so it's easy to keep that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Under control they were hey they work.
Iso Joe
They work in miami okay ocho oh.
Joe Johnson
Yeah i know he gonna work now well he ain't get that goddamn good bye bye just he ain't just walk he ain't just walking and just walk into that that ain't number work yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They.
Iso Joe
I seen some different stuff there.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Boy i got no chill and your rookie year steve atwater knocked out six foot one two hundred fifty three pounds christian okoye with that monster hit what was the sideline and locker room reaction we going crazy because you know i had seen christian okoye run me like i said he's huge i mean yeah he did have some big ass pass but he's a muscular guy he will legit two hundred fifty i mean you know nigerian they called it a nigerian nightmare for a reason he had no lateral movement but if you got ahead of steam you run your ass over and he ran i mean that size he ran four four that just so happened we rock and roll the safeties and i and water was coming down.
Joe Johnson
It perfect perfect timing.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Are we going crazy get it water he was never the same he was never the same go back and look at it he was never the same.
Joe Johnson
Hey that's like a boxer when a boxer getting knocked out for the first time huh you're a little timid next time you get out there in that ring as a.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Running back it's easier for you to get knocked out again that's why with concussions ocho once you get one you're more susceptible to getting another especially another one right afterwards lpre ninety eight digging the style tonight oo out here built like frozone jason zeldor says i turned thirty eight today i feel like i'm ancient all of i want for my birthday is my quarterback dart to stay healthy the gym the gym the gym gone a guy like mike tomlinson need my giants and ocho and to wish me a happy birthday jason you've been a supporter of ours for a very long time so each of each one of us joe ocho and myself would like to wish you a happy birthday dart is going to have to stay healthy think about ocho he's been evaluated for a concussion about five times that's not good no in one year.
Rob Gronkowski
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
He got he gotta chill you really.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ain'T trying to get evaluated for five concussions in a career let alone in a season he's seeking content no you can't do that yeah he is he's.
Iso Joe
Seeking contact he got to cut that.
Joe Johnson
Out boy joe i played all them years boy i only had two you.
Iso Joe
Getting you getting down getting out of.
Joe Johnson
Bound what wait what i got one from brian russell and i got one from ray that was it that was it enjoy i play you know i play i play reckless joe i played i played talking trash you know yipping and yapping boy i made a business decision every time i ain't got no time to play i ain't trying to get no extra yards i ain't no.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'M good fizz new jersey said good evening good riddance to tour twenty twenty three was the fan season that was it tank for tour should have burned it all down for burrow well you know what when it comes down to it guess what ocho yeah you got brian flores was right oh yeah brian flores was right the owner got to eat this one he wanted to flores wanted justin herbert with justin herbert we'll.
Joe Johnson
Never know but yeah i mean unless you play mad you could put herbert.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
On madden lab twenty casey iso do you think kobe's twenty two thousand seven to twenty ten run is overlooked usually people try to diminish because he has shaq but failed to mention he won two without the top seventy five player which was back to back also we need iso gear said oh oh ocho you gotta chill you think two thousand seven to twenty ten joe was overlooked.
Iso Joe
I think i think it is kind of overlooked in his career i mean but you know the ones who know obviously you know it stamps his legacy but man when he did have shaq i could just go back to zero one uncle ocho through throughout that playoff run that was you know obviously going into my rookie year so i spent a lot of time in la i have the the probably one of the most famous agents or until kobe had the same agent tracy mcgrady had the same agent so i spent a lot of time in la watching man just watching this dude and man he was averaging like thirty three ten and eight like his numbers was almost equivalent to shaq numbers back then right so yeah when when when he wasn't playing with shaq and he finally got a chance to lead a team yeah i think i think that does goes a little underlooked because he was i mean he performed at a high level man he.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Was he he was a beauty to.
Iso Joe
Watch then.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah i mean look shaq make it easy for a lot of people but he still had to score those points yeah and then when he without shaq he did average thirty five a game he had an eighty one game and he had a month stretch where he was just like crazy he was getting sixty plus points in three quarters there hadn't been very many people in the history of the nba could put the ball in the basket like kobe.
Iso Joe
Yeah nobody worked like him so he's gonna outwork him give him his.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Credit yeah he's about yeah he's gonna take shots he's gonna take bad shots but he gonna make bad shots too there was not a shot that he didn't think he could make and he's willing to take that shot at any time of the game so if you if if if you're willing to be the hero you got to be okay being the villain too yeah yeah and he didn't care about eating one way he didn't care bad dude j ski ninety seven we backed we back this is the up we love to see welcome back oh man i'm on probation still i gotta wait till twenty six.
Joe Johnson
Man boy you ain't probation my ass boy your revoke after the diet oh no ain't no probation tonight bro biog.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Was told me eating hoo ha will grow hair on your face where un find his beard at love advice i ain't saying but i'm just saying yeah.
Iso Joe
I heard that too i hey i heard you do a little bit of.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That joke joe i see some on the side of your joe but hey.
Iso Joe
You know my spider you call me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Little spider yeah yeah okay okay you.
Iso Joe
Hey yo i can see that joy that that joint come all the way down to your neck it will it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Does it does i got to get it cleaned up i'mma get it cleaned up tomorrow oh no no you good.
Iso Joe
Let it go wild man let let that salt pepper ride baby the i.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Gotta you know what i'm saying i don't know i might cut it i might just have me a goatee i might just do a goatee what you think about the goatee okay nah nah.
Joe Johnson
Get the full beer because i remember i told you i'm gonna get the.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Beer too he want to get a beer he want to get a beer so bad joke i'm gonna get i'm.
Joe Johnson
Gonna get a unit because i want it i want mine to be full.
Iso Joe
It take too long i got somebody who do who do that down here in atlanta man say he get you.
Joe Johnson
Right about the beard though the beer.
Iso Joe
Unit hey you're right yeah yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Big.
Joe Johnson
Full joint yeah yeah matter of fact you know what i'm doing when we do when we do the you know the the adventure stuff yeah i'm gonna have i'm gonna have a beard i'm.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Had the beard then no i mean people like man i didn't know you bro i shave every day so that's why i didn't you know had it didn't have facial hair i just shaved every day this is saturday will be two weeks joe this is basically two weeks so i gotta go till the seventh i gotta go to the seventh of january so that'll be a month.
Iso Joe
Oh man you'll be good that thing gonna be full feel everything feels all.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The way out i mean it's taking me i'm like i wake up like damn my sister don't know yet my mom don't know my daughter my kayla saw she like daddy i look good i like that man my grandmother rolling on my grave my grandma did not like no beard no man beard the tattoos i can't stand no beards man you know them old school yeah my granny just had my granddad just had a mustache but i'm gonna see i'm gonna see i'm gonna give it you know like i said i'm gonna january seventh and see how it is and then if i if i if i like it i'm gonna i'm gonna keep i will keep it a little while i don't think i don't think this is something that i'm gonna take to the you know years you know what i'm saying yeah yeah yeah i just want to see i just want to see what it looked like all right i just didn't know i ain't know i had this much grado that's for damn sure i woke up one morning about chin i'm like damn i'm looking like so well that's where it is i'm gonna keep i got taylor so that's about that's almost that's almost three a little less than three weeks tony g ninety five ninety nine only two quarterbacks have twenty wins seven thousand passing yards and fifty touchdowns in their first two seasons dan marino and bo nix bo nicks play for my team caspian what's up ocho blessings from atlanta georgia where does julio jones ranks among the guy you guys all time receivers what made him so special size speed size.
Joe Johnson
Speed route running for a guy that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Size for him to be able to sit down getting in and out of those breaks was something special oh yeah.
Joe Johnson
Run every run the whole country short routes take them to the house intermediate routes take them to the house deep balls take them to the house and.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He ocho remember now he has some he dealt with injuries early in his career a lot yeah yeah and then and then he started to deal with hamstrings injury remember he had that foot injury because he had like a two hundred fifty something yard game he had a three hundred yard game man he was he was he was at the top he was at the apex he was at the top of his game he was at the top of his game he was something special to watch and i think the thing is i i wish i wish he had finished his career in atlanta because once he started bouncing around ocho he wasn't the.
Joe Johnson
Same right because you know once once you bounce around they're not gonna use.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You the same nope never nope you're right like ocho always say the grass ain't always greener caleb dennis ocho finished the lyrics you want me to take you shopping i need your song on spotify love y' all nightcap you want.
Joe Johnson
Me to take you shopping girl you tripping night nice little that one of my first songs that went went went platinum back in seventy four back in the two thousand yeah early early two thousands okay yeah.
Iso Joe
Okay you got some.
Joe Johnson
Hits oh yeah i only had i was the one hit wonder joe okay oh okay yeah that was my only.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Song doctor lebron maryland it's my birthday happy birthday doctor lebron lebron lebron happy birthday okay happy birthday hopefully you're doing something fun you know you got a nice little date going out get a little bite to eat you know kevin kyle says salute fellas ocho iso when y' all bringing the show to indianapolis y' all got love out here also ocho when was your welcome to the league moment.
Joe Johnson
Why welcome to the league.
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Moment.
Joe Johnson
To my welcome to the league moment ain't happened till man years in yeah that that brian that brian russell hit yeah i was out cold right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Marlin spider said oh did you get a chance to go to the rodeo last week in vegas i did not i did not but you know what i should have went just i just want to go see the bulls up close and personal i want to see those bulls because you know i grew up in the country ojo and mister sammy kirkland he had cattle he had he had he had sunday gertrude which is red with a white face cow mister sammy had i think he had like charlize he had a charlie i'm trying to think what he have he had some black anguses.
Iso Joe
Hey i said cow tip no you ain't doing a.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cow table i'm like my grandfather we had pigs like neighbors we in between mister sammy mister ronnie ron they had cattle so my grandfather had pigs cattle is a lot easier i believe cattle is a lot either they just eat more but pigs they constantly they constantly looking for ways to get the f out of the fence and them jokers just we lay you know we have hot wire which is electrical fence yeah i got on the bus of many a morning to see my aunts and my sister them running running hogs i felt bad for them god them halls got out barney porter ain't care ain't no school ain't no nothing get them hogs back in i felt bad they grind and feed they hey man barney didn't play man i sure wish osho could have got some of that he showed me all that all that that that that that that unseriousness that freeness bar didn't have hey i would have.
Joe Johnson
Been hey i would have been joking.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Back oh no oh no hey hey.
Joe Johnson
Listen hey mama mama and grandma i mean mom and grandma tried to whip that adam whoop that out of me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'M still o joe hey hey once it's in you it's in you it might have got back in you once once you got grown and got out on your own but it was gonna be in you right there jdub akron what's up what's up i left ohio to get some sun in vegas it's just as cold as vegas as it is in ohio experience was live yeah it's it's cold now at night now you got to realize it's the desert it burn your ass up in the day it frees your ass at night i mean so you might get a fifty sixty degree you know temp drop because it could easily be eighty and all of a sudden it'd be damn in you know twenty thirty it it get cold at night here especially this time of year but even the desert it's always been like that that's why you have to be really careful because it can be scorching hot it can be one hundred ten one hundred twenty and all of a sudden they drop all the way down to the forty so i'm sorry bro i'm sorry joseph shamoon you guys talk about podcast bowl or the conversation just over it ain't.
Jacob Goldstein
Over.
Joe Johnson
Man them boys don't want no.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Smoke man i mean we got i mean boy don't want no smoke we got like five you know i gotta get with p mac we got to get with a couple of guys and said okay what we gonna do hey.
Joe Johnson
Get their ass whooped that's what they.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Gonna do yeah what game we gonna.
Joe Johnson
Play hey hey listen anything it don't.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Matter anything yeah we plan i mean listen y' all know if y' all know anything y' all know i'm a planner we just said just arbitrarily just go out there okay guys just show up now listen but you do it.
Joe Johnson
You do what you need to do just know i'm gonna just know i'm gonna be ready in my mouth and my mouth's gonna be running for show.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So yeah if we bowling guess what we going we walk into the line together there ain't no just sit down and be quiet so that bowling that y' all see on tv that is don't work like that in the ninja bowl everything everything we do is in rigged so y' all know how y' all already know how it gets car whatever talking is a must fades dominoes.
Joe Johnson
Everything.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely so that concludes this episode of nightcap we want to thank each and every one of you for joining us y' all know who i am i'm your favorite unc that's my partner and co host liberty city's own bengals ring of fame honoree a former pro bowler and an all pro that's chad ochocinko johnson and the third member of the big three that joins us every wednesday night the university of arkansas alum university little rock arkansas native a seven time nba all star from the atlanta hawks iso joe johnson thank you joe for joining us tonight man appreciate it thank y' all yes please make sure you hit that subscribe button please make sure you hit the like button and do us a favor go subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from we would like to personally thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support because all this what you see behind myself what you see hanging on ocho's wall and what joe is about to receive in the mail in the very in a couple of days all because of you none of this is possible without you the love and respect and the adulation that we received we're in the top rank in the youtube television we cannot thank you enough so again thank you for your support and your continued support those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by laportier remember we have it in the seven hundred fifty and also now we have it in the three hundred seventy five head over to laportiercognac dot com if you cannot find it in a state or city near you it is a premium bsop the best tasting premium vsop cognac on the market but don't take my word for it try it for yourself compare it against others and i'm sure you'll see it's a vsop but it actually drinks like an so the best tasting smoothest bsop on the market please drink responsible and stay safe check out my media company page on all of his platforms that's shay shay media and my clothing company eighty four with eighty four being spelled out that link is pinned in the chat again thank you guys for joining us tonight we're back ocho and i are back tomorrow night after the seattle rams game somebody is about to be the number one seed in the nfc the winner will be the number one seed he's ocho he's iso thank you guys for joining us we're out.
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Date: December 18, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe (with Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, Iso Joe Johnson, and Joe Johnson)
Main Theme: The episode covers trending stories and athlete insights, including Dillon Brooks' ongoing feud with LeBron James, Kevin Durant’s Achilles injury reflection, Terence "Bud" Crawford’s retirement from boxing, and personal anecdotes from the hosts’ sports journeys—all discussed with trademark humor and honesty.
This episode is a sports and culture roundtable between Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco Johnson, Iso Joe Johnson, and Joe Johnson. The main threads include:
[04:44 – 17:24]
"He’s added like I said offensive package to his game, he a threat now." [06:43]
"What did LeBron do? ... dropped forty on his head and send him packing." [07:13]
[12:43 – 14:55]
"Sometimes you have to have guys that play a role... Austin Reaves on a bad team could average 25 points." [13:12]
[22:20 – 25:36]
"Had they told me that, Shannon... there are the long term effects... I gotta live for today, I’ll worry about tomorrow." [24:12]
[44:41 – 54:43]
"This is not the end. We know better than that. Most fighters do this, retire and say they're not coming back. They're coming back." [45:28]
"You’re not gonna get [nine figures] for no up-and-comer, it ain’t never happening, it’s never gonna happen." [48:50]
[27:34 – 41:10]
"I was in Glensville but my mind was a thousand miles away. I noticed something out here better than Shannon Sharpe." [34:11]
[66:25 – 92:33]
"I idolized this man since I was a kid... I didn’t even get no sleep the night before because I knew he was my matchup... He had 31 [points] on me." [71:00]
"Go back and look at it, he was never the same." [80:21]
[54:43 – 66:25]
"He’s more the agitator... but the agitator has added something to it." [06:04]
"If I get thrown out and he gets thrown out, who loses? My team." [10:43]
"If you can't guarantee me a honda (hundred million), it ain't worth my time." [53:09]
"On a bad team, Austin Reaves could average 25 points, man!" [13:12]
"I idolized this man since I was a kid... Michael Jordan... He had 31 on me." [71:00]
"I was in Glensville but my mind was a thousand miles away." [34:11]
"That’s like a boxer when a boxer getting knocked out for the first time, you a little timid next time you get out there." [80:35]
The tone is candid, playful, and often irreverent, with moments of depth and seriousness woven into the lighthearted banter. The hosts speak to each other and the audience as old friends, unafraid to go off-script or get personal—true to the spirit of Club Shay Shay.
For listeners who missed it:
This episode provides a compelling mix of sports analysis, storytelling, and humor. The trio’s perspectives on athlete psychology, business realities, and dealing with adversity—on the court, field, and from their upbringings—are raw and real, making this a must-listen (or must-read summary) for fans of both the games and the personalities who shape them.