Nightcap Hour 2: Doc Rivers' QUESTIONABLE coaching style + A'ja Wilson RECORD night

Summary

Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Doc Rivers’ Questionable Coaching Style + A’ja Wilson Record Night

Date: May 16, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (often referred to as “Joe”/“Unc”), Chad “Ocho” Johnson (“Ocho”), and a rotating co-host panel for “Nightcap Hour 2”

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into two major topics:

• Explosive locker room revelations about Doc Rivers’ highly lenient coaching approach with the Milwaukee Bucks, as shared by Miles Turner, and the resulting accountability issues―especially regarding franchise star Giannis Antetokounmpo.
• The historic, dominant night from A’ja Wilson in the WNBA, with broader discussions on her generational greatness and the legacy of women’s basketball legends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Doc Rivers’ Coaching and Milwaukee Bucks Locker Room Drama

(03:08–34:22)

• Miles Turner’s Revelations

  • Miles Turner, on the “Game Recognized Game” podcast, exposed Doc Rivers’ complete lack of discipline with the Bucks, stating that Rivers didn’t fine players for tardiness or missed meetings.
  • Turner reveals:

    “Guys were late all the time. Guys were, you know, showing up to film whenever they wanted... It was one of the craziest things I personally experienced. If the plane took off at 2 o’clock, we weren’t leaving till 4:30. Guys are an hour late to the plane.” (03:38)

  • He also claims Giannis was “most likely to be late,” showing up whenever he wanted:

    “Giannis is going to show up whenever he wants... That probably had a lot to do with why Doc resigned.” (04:09–06:25)

• Implications for Leadership & Accountability

  • Shannon Sharpe and Ocho are stunned at the lack of discipline and how it reflects from the team’s superstar on down.
  • Sharpe states:

    “He’s the leader of your team... If I’m late, they’re going to think that’s acceptable.” (05:17–09:14)

  • Ocho draws the classic comparison:

    “If the animals runnin’ the zoo, how we gonna keep everything in order?” (06:44)

• Old-School Perspective vs. “Player Empowerment” Era

  • The hosts compare their NFL experience—where tardiness meant getting left behind, losing playing time, or even losing your job—with the Bucks’ laissez-faire culture.
  • Ocho:

    “Normally your ass gets left. I don’t care who you are... That ain’t normal, bro. That’s not normal.” (07:28)

  • Joe:

    “That’s the behavior of a guy who says 'F y’all, I don’t want to be here.’” (07:44)

• Locker Room “Code” and Breaching It

  • Debate ensues over whether Miles Turner broke an unwritten locker room rule by outing Giannis’ habits publicly.
  • Uncle Joe:

    “Most of those things that happen in locker rooms are supposed to be ... in-house.” (09:49)

• Leadership by Example

  • Sharpe:

    “I watched the guys... that’s the leader I want to be. Because I know the young guys are watching me. If I’m sleeping in meetings and I’m still playing at an elite level, if I’m late, they’re gonna think that’s acceptable.” (09:14–09:37)

• Respect (or Lack Thereof) for Doc Rivers

  • Ocho:

    “It tells me about the Milwaukee Bucks players, man, they ain’t respect Doc... If you respect your head coach bro... your ass gonna be on time. Period, point blank.” (12:25–12:43)

• Cultural Differences: NBA vs. NFL

  • No curfews in NBA; far less strict culture compared to football.
  • Ocho highlights:

    “It’s a lot of leniency when it comes to basketball... We ain’t got no curfews. It’s a little different.” (17:23–17:46)

• Fundamental Principle: Don't Abuse Privileges

  • Sharpe:

    “Part of being a great player is to have privileges and don’t abuse them.” (23:02)

• Impact on Team and Image

  • Ocho and Sharpe lament how Giannis’ public image as a hard worker and leader takes a hit with these revelations.
  • Sharpe:

    “This is very disheartening for me to have this on Giannis... It’s hard because we have a perception of people.” (34:04)

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2. A’ja Wilson’s Record-Breaking WNBA Performance

(40:47–44:55)

• A'ja Wilson’s Dominance

  • Sharpe marvels at A’ja Wilson’s stats versus the Phoenix Suns:

    “A’ja: 15 of 18 from the field, made all 13 free throws, made both her threes... It’s going to be hard, if she’s not already the GOAT at 30 years old—what she’s accomplished, it’s gonna be hard [to find someone greater].” (40:47)

  • Ocho:

    “She’s been doing a hell of a job... She got everything, bro.” (42:01–43:23)

• Comparisons to the All-Time Greats

  • Sharpe gives her flowers:

    “I go back to ‘96, when the WNBA started... From Candace Parker to Lisa Leslie... It’s going to be hard to say there was a greater [women’s] basketball player than her.” (41:12)

  • Nostalgia for the Cheryl Miller era and comparing Wilson’s trajectory with legends like Maya Moore, Cheryl Swoopes, and Diana Taurasi.

• WNBA Legacy and Coverage

  • The hosts yearn for the increased visibility and respect for women’s basketball and briefly recall defining moments in college and WNBA history.
  • Ocho:

    “She was the first woman I know to have her own signature shoe, right?” (about Swoopes) (44:55)

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3. NBA Historical Debates & Current Events

(45:23–52:24)

• Prime Fantasy Matchups

  • Sharpe poses a “who wins?” between all-time Miami Heat (Butler, Wade, LeBron, Bosh, Shaq) vs. all-time Spurs (Parker, Ginobili, Kawhi, Wemby, Duncan).
  • Consensus: Too much Shaq—Heat takes it:

    “Shaq gonna put Wemby in the blender down in the low block.” (46:07) “It was not no one man who could stop him.” (47:07)

• Appreciation for Chris Bosh

  • Sharpe notes:

    “People don’t realize how great Chris Bosh was when he was in Toronto. He was a ‘20 and 10’ guy.” (50:07)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Doc Rivers’ Bucks Locker Room

  “We literally, if the plane took off at 2 o’clock, we weren’t leaving till 4:30. Guys are an hour late to the plane.” – Miles Turner (03:38)
  “If the animals runnin' the zoo, how the hell we gonna keep everything in order?” – Ocho (06:44)

• On Leadership and Setting an Example

  “Part of being a great player is to have privileges and don’t abuse them.” – Shannon Sharpe (23:02)

• On Giannis’ Accountability

  “He’s the leader of your team... If I’m late, they’re going to think that’s acceptable.” – Shannon Sharpe (05:17)

• Old School vs. New School Culture

  “NBA players got money now... they got their F-you money. They do what they please.” – Uncle Joe (07:09)
  “Normally your ass gets left. I don't care who you are. I done seen star players get left, bro.” – Ocho (07:28)

• On A’ja Wilson and the WNBA Legends

  “She made all 13 of her free throws... It’s going to be hard, if she’s not already the GOAT at 30.” – Shannon Sharpe (41:12)
  “She got a nice jump shot, nice post game, nice midrange game. She got everything, bro.” – Ocho (43:19)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:08: Start of Doc Rivers’ player discipline topic/Miles Turner audio
• 04:09: Giannis called “most likely to be late”
• 06:44: “If the animals runnin’ the zoo...” Ocho’s commentary
• 12:25: “Milwaukee Bucks players, man, they ain’t respect Doc.” – Discussion about respecting the coach
• 23:02: “To be great is to have privileges and don’t abuse them.”
• 34:04: “Disheartening for me to have this on Giannis.”
• 40:47–44:55: A’ja Wilson’s WNBA record night and greatest-of-all-time discussion
• 45:23: Hypothetical all-time Heat vs Spurs matchup
• 50:07: Recognition of Chris Bosh’s greatness in Toronto

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Tone & Language

The discussion is candid, sometimes playful, unapologetically honest and deeply rooted in the ethos of elite athletes’ locker room culture. The hosts mix humor with values, occasionally using strong or streetwise language, always emphasizing respect, accountability, and authenticity.

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Summary

This episode critically explores the intersection of modern “player empowerment,” accountability, and leadership, using the Bucks’ Doc Rivers situation as a cautionary tale—and celebrates the ever-growing legacy of WNBA icon A’ja Wilson. For fans of basketball, leadership talk, and locker room inside stories, this episode offers a rich blend of perspectives, historical context, and memorable anecdotes.

Transcript

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[Joe]

joe I couldn't wait on this. Miles Turner. He peeled back another layer of Milwaukee tumultuous 20, 25, 26 season on the Game Recognized Game podcast, Turner says Doc didn't find anybody this season despite repeated tardiness, and Giannis was most likely the Bucks players to be late. Let's take a listen to what Miles Turner had to say. We get fined for all types of stuff now. You guys get fined a lot.

[Advertiser/Commercial Voice]

It depends on the coach. So Doc Rivers, he didn't find anybody. Guys were late all the time. Guys were, you know, showing up to film whenever they wanted to show up. Guys were missing meetings like it was one of the craziest things I personally experienced. We literally, if the plane took off at 2 o', clock, we weren't leaving till 4:30. I'm being so serious, bro. It was crazy though. Guys are an hour late to the plane. It got to the point where I just, I knew not to show up until like an hour it was taken off.

[Joe]

Wow.

[Advertiser/Commercial Voice]

Crazy.

[Joe]

So who's the teammate that's most likely to be late? Well, all of yours, obviously, because nobody gets fined.

[Advertiser/Commercial Voice]

Giannis. Giannis is going to show up whenever he wants. Really. You know, I think that that's kind of just came with the territory that and once I kind of saw it was going down, I was like, hey man, more power to you. They ain't going to find. Do what you do. Except when we're going to Dallas. That's when I was like, all right, come on.

[Uncle Joe]

Right now we're getting fined for miss free throw box outs.

[Advertiser/Commercial Voice]

Honestly, that's a good one. I'm not mad at that. I'm actually not mad at that at all.

[Uncle Joe]

We're a Little bit mad about it

[Joe]

because it's like, all right, well, what if the ball goes out of bounds? There's no possession. What if, like, there's always caveats to it. Yeah. Bad bounds.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, stuff like that. Supposed to stay in house.

[Joe]

Hold on, hold on. Before you go. Oo. OO and Joe, they have since deleted this video.

[Uncle Joe]

I mean, I would.

[Joe]

In case you could. No, no, no, no. Ocho, you ever been to court too late?

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Talk to him. He's talking to me.

[Joe]

Some. Somebody might. A lawyer might ask a question. And what did one lawyer, the defense or prosecution, says objection, and the judge says, sustain. How do you make the jury unhear what they heard?

[Uncle Joe]

Too late.

[Joe]

So whether he. Sustained. Now.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

The defendant is not supposed to. Whomever. They're not supposed to take that into consideration. Jury, whatever you just heard, disregard it. Pretend you didn't hear it. I heard what he said. I saw the video. The man said Giannis was most likely to be late. He said they were showing up an hour plus late. He's the leader of your team.

[Uncle Joe]

Your team.

[Joe]

Yes, absolutely. Go ahead.

[Uncle Joe]

Now, listen, you. You right, And I'm with you when you're right. Huh? I'm not saying what Giannis is doing is okay, but I'm saying the things that. Going in locker rooms, the things that going on. On team functions and. And. And stuff like that, that always stays in house.

[Joe]

Well, he gone, so I can tell it. Oh, yeah. Oh, Joe, when you break up, what the girls say?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You ain't had no meat. I wasn't. You weren't doing nothing. Anyway. They say all the things.

[Ocho]

Yeah, right.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, they. They do that, but you don't. You rarely hear this from players. Very, very, very rarely. But all of a sudden now, during this era that we're in now, where everyone has a voice, everyone has a platform, you have podcasts and stuff like that, everyone likes to tell some of the things that are always kept in house.

[Ocho]

And when you think about it, that's mild. Turner. It was his first year in Milwaukee, okay? So listen. Probably. Probably. That probably had a lot to do with why DOC resigned. Because, listen, if the animals run in the zoo, fellas, how the hell we gonna keep. How we gonna keep everything in order?

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe, That's a good one, boy. If the. What?

[Ocho]

The animals running the zoo.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, that's a bar.

[Ocho]

That's a bar in the zoo. Meaning I come and go when I please. I don't get police. You. I don't get no repercussions. Ain't no fines, man. You two hours late to the damn plane.

[Joe]

What?

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, Unc, you know why they able to do that? What kind of. What kind of money?

[Joe]

NBA players got money now.

[Ocho]

They have you money.

[Uncle Joe]

They got their fu. Money. They do what they play. Hey, Unc, can you imagine if we. We were late to a plane on

[Joe]

the NFL game after they take you?

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, listen, not on now. Hey, Joe, not only are they gonna leave us, we gotta get our own flight going to wherever we going, whoever we plan. As a matter of fact, not only that, Joe, we probably won't start.

[Ocho]

Okay? Ocho, normally your ass get left. I don't care who you are. I didn't seen the star players get left, bro. And yes, you had to book your own flight and you had to meet us. I'm telling you, that ain't normal, bro. That's not normal. That.

[Joe]

That's the behavior of a guy that says, f y', all, I don't want to be here.

[Ocho]

I'm ready to go.

[Joe]

And I'm going to show you how much I don't want to be here, because I'm going to come when I want to. I'm. And, yeah, and I'm. I'm telling you what's happening. This is a guy. I'm showing you now what I'm telling the media. Oh, I want to be here. I love it in Milwaukee, my home, yada, yada, yada. But what he's showing the team and the higher ups. Yeah, I don't want to be here.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I can't make it any more abundantly clear than by not showing up on time.

[Uncle Joe]

But listen, none of us would have known this, Uncle Joe. See, Giannis is saying one thing publicly, trying to keep a clean face. Miles Turner come, goes behind his back and say, let me tell you who Giannis really is.

[Ocho]

Yes, but think about it. Think about it, though. Ojo hell he was. He didn't even play a whole hell of a lot last year, so he's probably missing this plane and he wasn't even dressed.

[Joe]

Thank you. Oh, okay.

[Ocho]

Okay. You know what I mean?

[Joe]

So.

[Uncle Joe]

That still doesn't make it right, though, Joe. You're not playing. You can't be coming two hours late.

[Ocho]

Yeah, no, no, no, no. It don't. It don't make it right. But what I'm saying is, Miles Turner in the crew, they out there grinding night in and night out, practicing their ass off. Yeah. You mean to tell me you still traveling with us, but we still gotta.

[Joe]

We gotta wait on you. Come on, bro, we gotta wait on you. But you the leader of the team. It's hard. It's hard because you want your best players to be your hardest worker and your best.

[Ocho]

There you go.

[Uncle Joe]

Locked in.

[Joe]

Because, Ocho, remember when we first started at Sodocho, I remember watching the guys and I watched Steve Atwater and I watched how Dennis Smith and I watched John Elway, I watched the guys. I said, that's the kind of leader I want to be. Because I know that when I got in that position, the young guy's going to be watching me. If I'm asleep in meetings and I'm still playing at an elite level, if I'm late, they're going to think that's acceptable.

[Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe]

You see what Giannis is doing?

[Uncle Joe]

You know what? That's crazy. You know what? Remember, Remember I said I want. I want players, I want coaches, I want to be able to speak their mind. I want to be honest.

[Joe]

You don't want that.

[Uncle Joe]

Now say some of the things. No, no, no, I. I still want it, but this is not what I'm talking about. I ain't talking about snitching. I ain't talking about that. I want to be honest how they, how they feel when it, when it comes to things that involves themselves. Let me tell you how I feel about the situation I'm in. Let me tell you about what I don't feel comfortable with. With this situation or this organization or my playing time or stuff like that. Not going and sitting on the go damn platform. Talk about what another player did and exposing him. That, that's, that, that's, that's, that's. That's snitching. And most of those things that happen in locker rooms are supposed to be.

[Joe]

How about you come to.

[Ocho]

Hold on.

[Joe]

So Miles Turnerson said, why Giannis is a. Is a 10 time greater player, but why is his time more important than mine? But he's telling us we need X, Y and Z and he's not doing

[Uncle Joe]

what he supposed to do. Oh, yeah, yeah, Absolutely.

[Joe]

I'm telling you guys, they follow what you do, not what you say. Yes, sir. You talk your ass off. Yeah. How you gonna talk about. You talking about late for me to come on, guys. Well, if you. For me, I would. Joe. Hey. It's happened now. I've never. I've never been late for a team play. And I used to hate being a rookie because oo. You know, rookie, you gotta go get donuts or you gotta go get fried chicken, go get burgers. And I'm like, come on, man. You all know. Come on, man. Hey, hey, Shop. I want this. Get me a. A. A three piece, spicy. Now I want Popeyes. I want kfc. I said, look here, everybody go. Do you get popeyes and getting KFC? I'm not going no.

[Ocho]

2.

[Joe]

Damn. Stop. Now y' all gonna have to whip my ass. So I'm gonna whip y' all ass. But I'm eating. What you gonna. What you want? But I'm damn if I'm going because Popeye's way over here and KFC over there, and I still. I gotta get. I gotta go home, get dressed, get my stuff, go get this. Nah, nah, I'm not doing all that.

[Ocho]

It's a lot.

[Uncle Joe]

You know what's funny, Uncle Joe? The funny thing about it is, as great as I was when I played, especially in my goddamn prime, as crazy I was when it came to my antics and my on the field stuff, or the stuff I did in front of the camera, through the media, when it came to my opponents, nothing really malicious. There was one thing I never did that scared me a little bit.

[Joe]

What's that?

[Uncle Joe]

I would never be late.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

I was always on time. I didn't fall asleep in beatings.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

I always conducted myself like the professional I am because I didn't want them to be able to say anything about me.

[Ocho]

There you go.

[Uncle Joe]

Anything else? Because when I touch the field, I'm an actor ass.

[Ocho]

There you go.

[Uncle Joe]

I'm an actor ass. So everything outside of that unk I did, I did it right.

[Ocho]

You right. Hey, and, and, and, and another thing that it tells me about the Milwaukee Bucks players, man, they ain't respect.

[Joe]

Doc, if you.

[Ocho]

If you respect. If you respect your head coach, bro. And you know, he. He's non tolerance, right. Your ass gonna be on time.

[Uncle Joe]

Right?

[Ocho]

Period, point blank. Now, if you lenient, meaning. Okay, I've been late a couple times, and you ain't. It's no repercussions. I ain't been punished. I ain't been fine. Hell, what's. Why not be late again? Yeah.

[Joe]

And me.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Like, I think you have to. If your head coach doesn't command or demand respect, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

The players will try and run over you. That's. That's just like a. That's. That's just like a. You being in a relationship with a female, bro, if you don't put your foot down, homie, she gonna do whatever

[Joe]

she want to do when she want to, or. I'm going out with the girls tonight. When were you gonna Let me know this right now. Oh, no, no. I tell you what, I tell you what, you go, yeah, I'm not gonna tell you what you can do, but I guarantee you good luck getting back in here.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Uncle Joe. Just think about that. Just thinking about what Giannis is able to do. Obviously, the money's different. It's guaranteed. They have F you money in the NBA. But just showing up late in general, whether it's meetings, whether it's the team playing, like there's a certain fear, there's a certain fear in me that would be scared to do.

[Joe]

I don't have a respect for your people.

[Uncle Joe]

That would scare me.

[Joe]

What you had was, was respect for your teammates and the coaching staff because you felt time wasn't any more important than theirs. Giannis felt because he was the best player, a two time league mvp, a finals mvp, his time was more important than theirs. And he says, I'm going to come whenever I want to come. And when things you can't abuse. Now see, he tell that. Now I want to see if he going to tell that story. I want to see if he go get on the platform and say, yeah, guys, I was late. Yeah, and that's on me.

[Uncle Joe]

He gonna be pissed. He gonna be pissed. He gonna be pissed. Hey, how about this? Why you think they deleted other NBA players? Hey, how other, how are other NBA players gonna look at Miles Turner? Do you mean how they gonna view him?

[Ocho]

Meaning, like if you and our locker room, you gonna be telling stuff that's going on.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, but think about this. What's the situation with Swaggy P back in the days?

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. D. Russell.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

You see, you see how that's one thing. How to find. You had to fire on him. You got to fire. You got to whip him. You gotta whip him. You know that. You got the whip. It a man, put you a man, throw you under the bus like that,

[Ocho]

that told all your little business.

[Joe]

Hey, old lady, it's the same thing. I, I whip him every day and I won't make him say no. I was just, we were just playing. That ain't happened. Hey, hey.

[Ocho]

But here's what I will tell y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Ocho]

Hell, one of them Miles Turner or Giannis, one of them gonna be gone.

[Joe]

He was gone. It's kind of like if we like, we, you know, guys, I love this because we always like, like to equate a lot of things to relationship. When you know you about to leave relationship, you go and come as you please. You Leave. Ape. Where are you going? Oh, I'm going. I'm going to see the fellas. At 11:30?

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

You walk in the house at 4:00', clock, 5:00 clock in the morning like it ain't nothing.

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Uncle Joe]

Whoa, hold on, hold on.

[Joe]

Hey, Uncle. You did that before, man. You know, Goodwill. I can't come in the house past 12 o'. Clock. I'm sleep.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey. Hey, Joe. Hey, you ever tried to break up with somebody and came and came in the house when the sun was coming up?

[Ocho]

I don't. I don't have. Yeah, I haven't been there. Yeah. To the point to where I was just kind of, like, fed up. Like, man, the hell with this. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I come home when the hell I come home. You know what I mean? Yeah. What repercussions do I have for this?

[Joe]

Already I just got the courage enough to say it, but I'm hoping you say it's over. That's the thing, that is. And for. Let me tell you how I am, guy. I'm not coming late. I've always been a guy. Hey, everybody know how I am on time. So it ain't nothing new. But ain't no way in hell if my culture, my complexion, and I know how hard it is for them to get jobs like that. Ain't no way I undercut him. No way. If I can show up for Dan Reeves, if I could show up for Wade Phillips, I could show up for Mike Shanahan, Brian Billick. I'm damn sure showing up for Her Melvers. I'm damn sure showing up for Mike Tomlin. I'm damn sure, sure enough for Tony Dungeon, I'm damn sure enough for, Rest His Soul, Denny Green. There is no way in hell. Cause I know how hard it was for them to get in that position. And now I'm one of their best players. And I. And I, I. I'm late now.

[Uncle Joe]

Hell, no.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's tough, bro. But I didn't seen it. I didn't seen it on. On several occasions, fellas, you know, basketball and football a little different. Like I said, it's a lot of leniency when it comes to, you know, basketball. Like, we don't have to sleep in hotels. Meaning when we at home and all that, you know, you kind of come and go as you please. We ain't got no curfews. It's a little different.

[Uncle Joe]

Wait, hold on. Y' all ain't got no curfew tonight before a game?

[Ocho]

Hell, no,

[Uncle Joe]

man.

[Joe]

Even if you're on my first three years because Dan Reeves, he was big on family. Coach Landry was big on families. He felt that the players would play better if they were at home with their wives, kids, significant other. Come to find out, guess what, they wasn't spending time with it. They might spend time, but they might be three o' clock, But this baffles me. But it just goes to show you.

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[Joe]

some people's like, hey, do what I say, don't do what I do. Some people like, look, I'm a lead. I'm going to show you how to do the right thing. This is how I eat. This is how I prepare, this is how I study. This is my make sure I get everything. But be on time. It bothers me. Man. I hate that. Ocho, you and I were great players. Joe, you were a great player. It would have been nothing for us. The the part about being a great player is to have privileges and don't abuse them.

[Uncle Joe]

Bingo. I'm. That's. You just. You took the words right out of my. I couldn't. I couldn't find a sentence structure. But you just said it. Yeah, I wasn't doing that.

[Joe]

That's the problem. You don't think Tom Brady had privileges. You don't think Peyton Manning and John Elway. I've been with Ray. Ray was the defensive player of the year. Was on time. He could get on time because he knows guys are watching him.

[Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe]

I don't get it, man. I don't get it.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. That's crazy. I. I hope this doesn't cause a trickle effect though, Joe. And you know how many things going in the locker room, you know how many things are going to go. Go on at home in the streets that only we know about? Because we're. We're all in the same circle when something happens. We all know people talk.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

There's certain things that never get out because it stays within that. That, that, that confinement of that fraternity. That's what the hood.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Not now. If we. Now we get players deciding to come out and tell things that nobody would know unless they run their mouth. I hope this is. This is not a triple A trickle effect. Another player decided, well, you know what? I got a story too. Let me tell this story about this player. Let me tell this story about this player and not everybody telling everybody. Goddamn.

[Joe]

This could have been a situation where he. Giannis, did this with. Not only did he do it with Doc, he did it with Buddha. He done it with. What's the Adrian Griffin. Whomever the coach was. I don't know. Maybe this is. This is who he is. I don't know. I don't know. I just know. I don't care. Chad. You can't convince me because someone is great at something. His time is more important than mine. It's not. If I found a way to get there, he can too. Because there's a great chance he has a better car than mine. Yeah. Why do I have to? Why do I have to? He's not the only one that's married with kids. I promise you he's not. Nah, he don't I think any more than the next man love he is. I gotta get there. I gotta be the film study Ocho. I gotta be the treatment. I gotta get to shoot around. I gotta get to the practice. I've gotta get to the plane. Why can't he as the best player? That's what you want. You want that response. Do you understand how great you have to be to have a certain level of responsibility? Everybody don't have this responsibility. Having that level of responsibility is a privilege, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

You know what you always say, too, unc? Remember, we've had situations with NFL receivers that come late all the time.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

And the first thing you say is, you think this is the first time they did that?

[Joe]

No, absolutely not.

[Uncle Joe]

So this is probably not the first time he did this. This is just the first time that someone that was part of that team put it out there public.

[Joe]

Yes, of course.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, listen, might have been something he'd been doing all the time.

[Joe]

I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised.

[Ocho]

I think, I think the disheartening thing is that, you know, we, we hold Giannis to, you know, we hold him on a high pedestal, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

Super high.

[Ocho]

And you just. I, I, I'm gonna be honest with y'. All. I never would even guess.

[Joe]

I wouldn't have either. Joke.

[Ocho]

He looked like he's the hardest worker, which he probably is. Yeah, he looks like, you know, he's always on time. I'm just telling you what it looks like. I never would have guessed when Miles Turner said that that's what Giannis was doing.

[Joe]

He was. That man didn't go through no other names. That man said, who's the most. She. Uh, uh, Bri. Uh, uh, Stewie, say, well, who's the most habitual offender?

[Ocho]

Oh, yes.

[Joe]

Yeah. I mean, without hesitation. Normally, I was like, let me think.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Giannis. That's why we love our illusions. Because we don't want the truth, because it would destroy. It would destroy our illusions. And Joe said he had this illusion of what, Yanis? What? Giannis was hard worker. He couldn't.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Two things can be true. He can be a hard worker and a. A repeat habitual tardy guy.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

And think how hard. And Joe, certain players fight to keep that image clean.

[Joe]

Of course.

[Uncle Joe]

Think about it. And then you have people like Miles Turner come out and say things like this that tarnish that said image that Joe had and who he felt Giannis was.

[Joe]

Yeah, but we're smart enough to know we saw through a lot of y' all this bull jive. Oh, I do what my agent says.

[Uncle Joe]

Child, please.

[Joe]

Thank you.

[Ocho]

Come on, now.

[Joe]

I don't know anything about what's going on. So you mean to tell me your agent is having conversations about your future and you don't know nothing about it?

[Ocho]

Man, please.

[Joe]

He, you know absolutely nothing. Oh, whatever. My wife, bro. You really gonna put that on your wife? Right? You really gonna put that on your wife? My wife is going to decide where I go.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Uncle Joe]

Well, you know what? He ain't got to worry about being late no more. Where he gonna. He's gonna be down here in Miami, and Pat Riley don't play that. And sponsor gonna find you. He ain't gonna be late.

[Host/Announcer]

And.

[Joe]

And. But a lot of this is on Doc. And see, but this I don't Coach Joe, because I've heard Doc speak, and I've heard a lot of players that play for Doc. Doc is a guy. He let the players handle it. I will treat you like men. I want you to show up. I want you to do what you're supposed to do and remove me from the equation. Y' all handle that. Y' all got an issue going on. Somebody like each other. Hey, y' all handle that. I. I don't want nothing to do with. I don't need to know about it. Hey, y' all gonna. You. You can't. Everybody is not wired like that. Some people, you got to step on their neck. Let me take that back.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Apologize. Can't use that phrase. Some people, you got to. You know, you got to get on them.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

You just got to get on them. Because they won't do. Right, Joe? They will not. And the one thing that you don't want to have happen is that your best player developed this type of attitude. Because, boy, if he develops it, good luck corralling.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, hey. I'm with you. You got to put your foot down, bro. Meaning to where? Every man on that roster respects you, bro. Especially the top. From top to bottom, I don't give a damn who it is.

[Joe]

And when you.

[Ocho]

And when you a head coach, if you super lenient, because I've been on teams like that to where I've seen kind of, you know, players doing what they want and coaches really not saying a whole hell of a lot. I know what it looked like. Hey, and whatever you let a guy get away with, trust me, his ass gonna run a thousand miles with.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah,

[Joe]

yeah. And that's the thing, because I saw. I saw guys do things with Wade they didn't think about doing with Dan. It didn't even cross their mind.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

But me.

[Ocho]

Nah, bro.

[Joe]

Not gonna do that. We was at the super bowl, and Brian. Billy told the story. We have no Joe, we have no curb Dane. Check.

[Uncle Joe]

No room.

[Joe]

Check the first. Hey, do what you a. I'm a. Brian's like, I'm gonna treat you guys like men. He said, the only thing that I ask is that you ride to and from practice on the bus. Yeah, we ain't got no practice. We ain't got no curfew. Just ride from the hotel to the practice on the bus, go back, and then once you get back to the hotel, if your mom, your girlfriend, somebody want to pick you up and you want to go wherever, take off.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

This dude, like, man, you know, my mom, them coming, so I'm gonna ride back. I say, no the F you not. I say no, the f you not. I said. Brian said, we only got one rule. The rule is to and from, and that's it. So, unfortunately, you need to tell your mom and your dad or whomever else, they're not gonna be able to take you from here. They can follow the buses back to the hotel, and you can get in the car and go with them then. Cause you not gonna F this up for nobody else, man. The end. We lived happily ever after. You're not gonna. You're not gonna mess it up. Nope. That ain't happening. And he. Yo, bro, hold on. You not even playing. Well, I wish I would.

[Ocho]

It'd be the worst one sometime. Okay, Ocho, the ones who don't get no clock, they ain't playing. They feel like they ain't included.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

And please, you gotta be on your best damn behavior.

[Joe]

Absolutely. Cause, yeah. Michael send you home? Cause I know he done sent some of them home.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And I love it. Nah, bro, I gotta get up. Why? You feel your time is more?

[Uncle Joe]

That's.

[Joe]

That's. That's the way I look at it. You tell. You say, f, Shannon, man. F sharp. Cause I gotta get up and I gotta get here. But you don't. Who. Yeah, like I said, I wasn't cut out to be everybody's teammate because I had a problem. I was there to win. I wasn't there to make friends and already accumulated enough friends in college and what I didn't have in high school and college. If I didn't make it in the NFL, oh, well, so damn be it.

[Ocho]

Oh, well.

[Joe]

Money. Money and friends. I. I was coming to the NFL to make money, not make friends.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Now it's in the process. If I. I got a couple. Thank you. But if I didn't, oh, well, right. I'd be old man with a damn house full of dogs, man. I don't play like that. We coming to work. We're gonna get our work done. We're gonna have a good time, and Mike would tell him, hey, have a good time. But he'd also put me inside 84. You responsible for him now. Yeah, man. Hey, stretch it out, yo. Walk into the field, stretching, boy. We. Hey, we all. But the moment he blow that whistle,

[Ocho]

strictly lock in. Yeah.

[Joe]

Strictly business. All that Kiki kid and all that foolery. I. I ain't about that. I ain't about that. Oh, man, you, man. You. You, you. This. No, no, no, no, no, bro. What are you here for? You trying to win. So what you. What we trying to do? Because we trying to do here? We trying to win.

[Ocho]

It ain't.

[Joe]

It ain't that complicated for me. I come to get better. You come to bull jive? Well,

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I ain't gonna dime you out, but when the man asked me what I think about something, I'm gonna keep walking. That's my answer.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

This is. This is very disheartening for me to have this on Giannis. Cause you got. Honestly, it's hard for me to view him in any. To do this. It's hard. It's hard because, like you say, Joe, we have a perception of people.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I mean, just imagine if you found out that Tom Brady was a jerk or Peyton Manning was a jerk, where they're so affable, and you see the person, especially Peyton. Peyton been Saturday Night Live, and he might have had one of the greatest performance for an athlete on Saturday Night Live. And if you've ever been around him, Ocho, like you and I have, Joe, what you see, that's who he is.

[Uncle Joe]

What you get? Yeah, just like that.

[Joe]

You could. Hey, hey, Paint. This is my. This is my friend's son. Can you sign this autograph? Can you sign this jersey? Can you sign this? No problem. Yeah, anytime. Hey, hey, 84, anytime you want to come back. Hey, come on to the suite. Come to the box. Tom is the same people. Oh, Tom is great. I saw Tom right here. Was that. That was. As a matter of fact, it was last June. It was last June. I went to the thing because he got this exhibit at the fountain. Blue.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Anything. You ain't love what you do. I love. I love how you do your homework. You know what the hell you're talking about?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You need anything from me, give me a call. So, yeah, I let people. Oh, man, you just. I'll let y' all talk, but I know when I talk to them, how they. Same thing with owners. I think that's the greatest compliment. Is that something that a player or owner or GM can give you pull you to the side. You do a hell of a job. You do your homework. Now I might not like everything that you say, but you know what the hell you're talking about.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

You'd be surprised at some of the teams that I've taken to the gaming the sharpest critique Their owners give you the greatest compliment. Their players give you the greatest compliment.

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[Joe]

So I'm doing something right, boy. Asia Wilson had a monster game tonight. Joe oh, shorthand beat the Suns, 101 to 94. Asia 15 of 18 from the field. She made all 13 of her free throws. She made both of her three point attempt shots. The Aces have responded well after the overnight loss. Defendant, they were having a hangover. Kennedy Carter, who's been unbelievable, coming off the bench for the aces. She had 18 points. She returned to the league this year after not signing with the team last year. She's been a godsend. She's been. She's been un. Unbelievable. But this is why I said for me and I go back to 1996 when the NW NBA started. And I know all the great players that's played in wnba. From Candace Parker to Lisa Leslie to Cheryl Swoops to Lauren Jackson to Diana Taurasi, Maya Moore. I know them all. It's gonna be hard if she's not already the goat at 30 years old. And what she's accomplished gonna be very, very hard. Ocho and Joe, when it's all said and done, they said there was a greater w. A greater woman's basketball player than her.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you're right. You're right. She. Hey, she's been doing a hell of a job. They, hey, you know, they play.

[Joe]

They.

[Ocho]

They play the Atlanta Dream on Sunday in Atlanta. I think they do play here in Atlanta.

[Joe]

Are you going to the game, man?

[Ocho]

I might go, yeah. I might see Sunday what's going on. Is there any games on Sunday?

[Joe]

NBA, Cleveland.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Ocho]

I probably ain't gonna go. No. It's at 1:30. They play at 1:30.

[Joe]

I might go.

[Ocho]

I go. I might go check them out, man. She can do it, you know. Atlanta, Atlanta two and. Oh, bro. Atlanta two zero, Aces three and one. I think it'd be a damn good game.

[Joe]

I mean, they got Jackie Young had 13, Chelsea Gray had 12. Asia 45, 15 of 18, two or two from the three third. Perfect. From the free throw line, three rebounds, three assists, a steal, two blocks. That's what makes her so great, is that she can on both ends of the court. You. I can make a case. A strong case. She probably should have 5 and 4, 5 MVPs. 4 defensive players a year. Phoebe 2 years ago for player of the year. Stewie beat her two year, three years ago for mvp. She could have easily gotten that. Yeah, she phenomenal.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So smooth.

[Ocho]

She is so smooth. Super talent, that lefty.

[Joe]

Lefty.

[Ocho]

She got a nice jump shot. Nice post game, nice mid range game. She got everything, bro. She does.

[Joe]

She does. She does. I mean, it's in the women's college game. You look, look, I would have loved to seen the situation they'd have had a WNBA league when Cheryl Miller came out.

[Ocho]

Oh.

[Joe]

Cause he was the greatest basketball player I had ever seen.

[Ocho]

Damn. You got to see a player.

[Joe]

I saw him college. Yes. When she went back.

[Ocho]

Really?

[Joe]

When she went back to back. They won the national championship back to back years. In 84, 85. They beat latex. You know, Kim Mulkey with the point guard.

[Ocho]

Was she really the coach for coaching Baylor?

[Joe]

Not coaching lsu was a point guard. They beat, they beat. They went back to back. They had the. McGee. Pam and Paula McGee.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Javale McGee. She was on that. Cooper. Cynthia Cooper was on that team. Cheryl Miller was on that team. Then in 86, Clarissa Davis, the great Texas team went undefeated. 36. 0. So, yeah, I go. I go all the way back with them. Cheryl Swoops had the greatest game I've ever seen a woman's college basketball player had in the national championship game. I think she dropped 48 on Ohio State and Katie Smith. Y' all go look at.

[Ocho]

Did you really?

[Joe]

That is the greatest woman's college basketball game that I've ever seen. I mean, Sheriff Swoops. Yes.

[Ocho]

She was the first. She. She was the first woman I know to have her own signature shoe. Right?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

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[Joe]

Yeah, sure. If y' all get a chance, go check that game out on YouTube. She was right. Hey, she could do it all. She had a game. She was Maya Moore before Maya More. You know how Maya Moore get to that sweet spot and pull up Sheriff's will do all of that. Put it on the floor between the leg w.

[Ocho]

All that.

[Joe]

She ain't but Asia Wilson, man. When it's all said and done. All right, we got. Can you see this? Who's winning this series? You got Jimmy Butler, Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Chris Bosh, Shaq, take it on. Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Kawhi Leonard Wimby and Tim Duncan.

[Ocho]

Well, I'm.

[Uncle Joe]

I'm probably D. Wade and Shaq.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I'm probably going to. I'm probably going with the Heat because

[Joe]

they still ain't got nobody to do anything with.

[Ocho]

Shaggy. Hell no.

[Uncle Joe]

Shaq gonna put women in the goddamn blender down in the low block.

[Ocho]

Well, if we be garden Bosh. Bosh gonna be out there at that three point line. Shoot that thing. He gonna have to. He gonna have to come out there. He gonna have to come out there and guard that. LeBron and Kawhi, it'd probably be a good matchup. But I give it to LeBron. I get. I get the way to Match up over Ginobly. And the fact that Jimmy, he'll be able to. I think he'll be able to guard Tony Parker. Tony will probably have a tough time guarding him.

[Joe]

Yeah, Tony ain't guarding him. And Ginobly damn sure ain't guarding D. Wade. Because D. Wade posted up D. Wade and Jimmy can both post.

[Ocho]

Hell yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, we gonna tell boss. Hey, boss, just stay out by the three point line. Don't even try to post up.

[Ocho]

There you go. Hey, and if he help off you, you hit him right up the top of his damn head when we swing it to you. Yeah. Knock that thing down especially.

[Joe]

So we go take all these guys at the absolute prime. Oh, yeah. I ain't taking nobody with Shaq.

[Ocho]

Hell, no. I mean, real it is. I'm telling you, it was not no one man who could stop him.

[Joe]

You had about four. You had about three or four.

[Ocho]

Listen, you can't find one center who gave him hell to where it was hard for him to score. Be effective. That wasn't possible. We're gonna have you up under that charge line dunking on you hang, man, please.

[Joe]

Shaq said he running straight to the front of the rim. Good luck, man.

[Ocho]

What?

[Joe]

Good luck, man. But when you. When you look, let's see. I mean, because think about it. You left David Robinson off.

[Ocho]

He was a monster.

[Joe]

And the Admiral was unbelievable. You left Iceman off. Those really the only two that really ever had any chance of. I mean, Alvin Robinson wasn't an offensive guy. He was a tremendous defensive player.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I'm trying to think who else went to San Antonio that played at San Antonio that was really, really good. I can't think of artist Gilmore. Yeah, Artist, Artist. Artist Gilmore. I'm trying to think of.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, Ocho. Speaking of Iceman, y' all listen to the Drake album, Plural. I have a plural.

[Joe]

You listen to it, Joe.

[Ocho]

I listened to one. That man dropped three albums.

[Joe]

Yeah. So he done with umg. See, there ain't no way he was doing. He dropped three albums. Say, now I'm done. Now I'm about to go get this thing. I read with somebody, a potential. A 2 billion dollar investment in the vest. Hedge fund.

[Ocho]

Hey, that's what I was thinking. I said, damn, why would he drop three albums? Then I started. I said, oh, yeah, he tried. He done. He done dealing with these MFs over here.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, I listen to Iceman. I didn't listen to the other two albums, but. But one's my favorite song on Iceman. Right? It's Called Make Them Pay Any. He sampled Denise Williams, Remember Denise Williams song Free?

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

From back in the days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he sampled that. I mean, that's one of the few songs I do enjoy.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. He ain't messing around, man.

[Joe]

I was busy, man. I had to go. Had to get on that cardio. Had to go work out today. I had to hit them 120 pound dumbbells. I don't want Joy to get too far ahead because he be trying to send some video with the little fake weight. I think Jord be having that fake weight. He move the thing a little bit too easy for my satisfaction. But no, but no. I. I think if you take everybody their prime, Jim at their prime, D Wade Bosch. Because people don't realize how great Chris Bosh was when he was in Toronto. Chris bosh was a 2010 guy. Y' all look at him now and what, he was the third option with the Heat. He wasn't bad.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Nah, he was nice. Yeah. Hey, that boy has some. He has some moves down on that low block. Yeah, he had a nice face up, face up game. Midi three ball. He had everything. Yes, he had everything.

[Joe]

And we only gotta say nothing about Shaq. Y' all know what Shaq was. I'll take any version of Shaq. I'll take Orlando. Shaq, I'll take in the first three, four years. And I'll take Shaq from 96 to 2002. I'll take that shack. A whole gorilla. Whole gorilla. I take 92. So when he got to the league in 92, all the way to O2, I'll take that shack. So I'll take 11 year shack. They not do they not doing nothing with him. Wimby and, and, and Tim Duncan gonna be in foul trouble. He gonna find all night long he too small.

[Ocho]

He gonna break that. Hey, hey, he probably gonna break his arm.

[Joe]

You see how Wimby hit Nas Reed? Imagine Shaq hitting Wimy like that. Even if he just hit him in

[Uncle Joe]

the shoulder, he gonna go flying.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, that's.

[Joe]

Nah, this. I mean, with Shaq, I mean, you look at Shaq. Cause you look at Shaq with the Lakers. If you put Shaq at the five, if you put Shaq at the four, Kareem at the, at the three. I mean, at the five. And then you go Kobe and you go Magic. Hell, you throw anybody else in there, James Worth, whoever you want, they don't do something with that.

[Ocho]

It'll be tough. I mean, in today's era, It'll be tough.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, because they run them out, you know,

[Ocho]

but back then when you were playing with two traditional be, they

[Joe]

might not lose a game. Well, yeah, we are. Because three of the. Well, four of them played together. Because you look at Manu, Tony, Parker, Duncan, and Kawhi, they all play together. It'll almost be like Olympics. You know, we going over there, we're just putting our best players together. And them joker been playing together.

[Ocho]

Damn right they were. Hell.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. What about what you call them? Where's our. Schedule? Release. The one that who Cincinnati playing. All right.

[Ocho]

Oh, it did. It supposedly came out today.

[Joe]

Yesterday.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, it came out.

[Joe]

Yeah, we'll do. We'll do that tomorrow. We'll do that tomorrow. Because we'll probably be a little light.

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