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Chad Johnson
I turned off news altogether.
Colin Cowherd
I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.
Chad Johnson
It feels like it's trying to divide people.
Colin Cowherd
We got clear facts.
Shannon Sharpe
Maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.
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Shannon Sharpe
Experts are projecting the college football playoff committee to rank one loss Alabama over undefeated Texas A and M for the three and four spots. Yeah, obviously we know who's going to be number one. No, no.
Chad Johnson
Who?
Shannon Sharpe
No earth shattering news there. Who's number two?
Johnny
Indiana.
Chad Johnson
Indiana.
Shannon Sharpe
Indiana. Okay. Yeah, Indiana wanted to. Yeah, Ohio State. Indiana, what you call them lost today. Miami lost.
Johnny
They're gonna play though, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Who?
Johnny
Indiana and Ohio State are gonna play.
Shannon Sharpe
Probably in the big three and four.
Johnny
Are probably gonna play if we get through undefeated Bama doesn't lose a game. So. So the top four are going to play each other in the championship weekend.
Chad Johnson
Hey, that's gonna be a good ass game.
Shannon Sharpe
And it doesn't matter because all four teams, whoever loses, still going to the college football playoff.
Johnny
It's really. Who else is going to get in? Like if you were to talk to people this week or the week before, you probably would have had Miami maybe sneaking into one of those upper seeds.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I mean I think with what's.
Johnny
Happening, Notre Dame is probably going to sneak in because they're going to run the table. Yes, that's a team that gave a M everything they could handle. What you got?
Chad Johnson
I'm gonna say, um, has no chance of getting in that college playoffs now, huh?
Johnny
No, sir.
Chad Johnson
God, that's it.
Shannon Sharpe
Because but Johnny, if you go back and look at crystal ball, you, they, they do this every year. They be positioned to get to the college, to get to the ACC championship, to get to a college football playoff and they nut up. Every year they do this. For the last three years they've done this, they've done this.
Johnny
Carson back has definitely showed some flashes of what's caused him problems. Georgia here again. That pick late today is just like holding on to it, holding on to it, holding on to it late. The guys drifting up the field, easy undercut field.
Shannon Sharpe
He got jets it tough, tough.
Johnny
I mean I was in, I was in the Bahamas and I, I took Miami in a game and bet on them. I think it was the week they played Louisville and it's always been like a really tough game. For Miami, no matter if crystal ball was there or not, Louisville always seems to have Miami's number and they play them really, really well. Yeah, and once that started to happen and they, before that, they looked pretty solid, they were coming out, scoring points on offense, surprising people. After that happened, I think it started to kind of rock their confidence a little bit. And smu, to be honest, they can play.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah, SMU is good.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson
Funny thing about it, Johnny and SMU is a bunch of fellas from right here at home, for the most part is a bunch of boys from Dade and Broward County. You know, they, they all, they all out there. A lot of speed too.
Johnny
They got that bread out there.
Chad Johnson
Hey, a whole lot of. @ SMU.
Shannon Sharpe
Whoa, boy. Hey, out there, Highland park, they got some, they got, they got it out there, don't they, Johnny?
Johnny
For real.
Chad Johnson
At smu?
Johnny
Did you drive through Highland Park? You dropped to island park and gonna see. It's, it's, it's different.
Shannon Sharpe
What the hell?
Chad Johnson
I ain't know that.
Shannon Sharpe
God dang right.
Chad Johnson
They got it. I ain't know that.
Johnny
This the old Dallas, they got it, you know, Crack team.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah. Like four, five generations.
Johnny
They were the OGs that were recruiting back in the day.
Chad Johnson
Okay, okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that. They money got. Smell like moth.
Johnny
They got mold on it.
Shannon Sharpe
People smell like mothballs. They got money. They, they got that money.
Johnny
Coat closet. When you walk in the house, you take a jacket out, you feel inside. About 10, 15 racks in that.
Chad Johnson
Okay, I got you. I got you. I got you. I'm with you. I mean, I'm picking up what you putting down. I got you.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, remember oo they got put on the death penalty.
Chad Johnson
Who was the running back that was there back then? Who got in trouble?
Johnny
Eric dig.
Chad Johnson
Eric Digy. That's right.
Shannon Sharpe
Ed and Craig James, the Pony Express.
Chad Johnson
That's right.
Johnny
You, you watch, watch that. If you watch that documentary I did.
Shannon Sharpe
But I'm old enough to remember when it actually happened.
Chad Johnson
I heard about the story, though.
Shannon Sharpe
Myers was the head coach at.
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Shannon Sharpe
For the second second season, the Browns are 26 and Cleveland enters week nine by on the heels of another anemic offensive performance, a 3213 loss to the Patriots. Now, many questions around the Browns quarterback situation. The question regarding Sanders will win. Will he play? It's not, I guess Johnny is not. If not, when? Nine games left. When will the Browns finally allow.
Johnny
Right here, right now. Start him now. Stop it. Enough. Enough.
Chad Johnson
Have you seen enough, Johnny? You seen enough of it?
Johnny
I I coming out last year from the Heisman. Dylan Gabriel's there, loved him. I love watching him play at Oregon. I think he still has the potential, like to have a chance in the league. It's not just him, but you got your best player on your team is pissed off. He just wants to rush the passer and go home and get out of the building. It's, it's brutal what's going on. And it's like as much as I rip on Cleveland, it's still like, damn, man. I still talk to my boys who have played there and it's just like, are they ever going to figure it out? And at this point, bring yourself a spark. Bring yourself a spark. Put Shador in. Let him go. Let him rip. He's looked good enough in the preseason. He's been sitting there for eight Weeks now, to be honest. Bye week. This week they'll probably start Gabriel again. If that goes bad, I think you have to turn it over to him. I mean, they, they let Flacco go. Flacco turns around and goes to Cincinnati and wins games.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Johnny
So you let a guy go who's winning games to go younger and the first option is not really working. You won one, you're struggling a little bit. His first week, really brutal. I think you turn it over to him, I think you get some excitement in the building. I think you get some excitement around the franchise. At one point this season is already a loss, you're not making the playoffs. You have to look at as we are building something for next year. Give yourself a spark. See if Shador is the one.
Shannon Sharpe
If not, you're going to have the.
Johnny
Third pick in the draft. You got to go do it again.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I don't want him to win no games. Do you know we're positioned to get.
Chad Johnson
The number one pick, Johnny?
Shannon Sharpe
You know how that work. We got two number one picks. We get Jacksonville's pick and we got our own pick.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, you don't want that.
Shannon Sharpe
The Brown. I'm saying that's what the Browns are saying. No, hell no. I ain't no Browns.
Chad Johnson
But you heard me out.
Shannon Sharpe
Hell no. But I'm saying that's what they're saying. They're like, hold on. He coming here and win games, he gonna mess this thing up.
Chad Johnson
But think about this. If you the GM of the Browns, right? Even if you did have the number one pick, what the hell is out there that you want to go get anyway? Who's out there worth investing number one pick money on any goddamn way? No, I don't want that A.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, listen, man, you know Cleveland gonna.
Chad Johnson
Up at this point, I'm not sure what Stefansky is doing. He's.
Johnny
He.
Chad Johnson
I'm not going to say he's being ignorant, but listen. He has no power in the situation. He had no power in saying who goes and who stays, who plays and who doesn't. That's coming from a higher power. The owner already said that wasn't my choice. That wasn't my choice. That's not who I want. So Stefanski had no choice. He has to live and die on the hill of having Dylan Gabriel at the quarterback position.
Johnny
Jeremiah Smith has to go back another year, huh?
Chad Johnson
Yeah. He got one more year. He gotta go. He got one more to go.
Johnny
Damn.
Chad Johnson
He got one more to go and.
Johnny
I need to find a way.
Shannon Sharpe
And if Cleveland got The number one pick. I'm gonna go back another year bad. You ain't finishing.
Johnny
I don't know who you take.
Chad Johnson
Hey, listen, do you know. You know what's gonna happen in a minute? Johnny and unknown in a minute, Stefans gonna lose the locker room. He gonna lose the locker room because he's not even giving his team a chance. Not not only not giving them a chance, but not giving us the spark. You have a quarterback in Dylan Gabriel. Listen, he's. Okay. I don't like talking about people, but I'm just gonna call it how I see it because I watched the last eight, nine weeks. Eight, nine weeks in the last few games that he's played for one. He's. He's meant to check down. He can't throw outside.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, he ain't pushing the ball down.
Chad Johnson
He can't throw down the field, and he can't throw it outside the numbers. So it doesn't allow you to do as much as you want to do offensively. I know Njuku's mad. I know Jerry Judy's upset. I know Tillman is upset. Keon junkins. Listen, he having a day because, okay, I know he can't throw the ball. So they ain't got no choice but to give it to me. They ain't got no choice but to give it to me. So they're damn near one dimensional in what they want to do. The playbook has to be maybe. Maybe 12 to 15 plays. If that's because there's not much you can do when you have a quarterback that's not able to get the ball goddamn down the field or throw outside of the numbers. Oh, I'm sorry.
Johnny
You know what's coming, too.
Chad Johnson
It's.
Johnny
It's. It's November now.
Chad Johnson
Oh, the cold weather.
Johnny
That weather in Cleveland about to start getting really icy.
Shannon Sharpe
It get heavy, you know, when the air get heavy. That ball. Hey, you need an arm to cut through that. That coming out that Ohio River.
Johnny
Yes, I think.
Shannon Sharpe
I think it's.
Johnny
Either way.
Shannon Sharpe
What don't y' all call a river?
Johnny
Yeah, he's thinking. He's thinking the business.
Shannon Sharpe
Close enough.
Chad Johnson
Close enough about Cincinnati. You know, we got the river right there.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, my bad river front y' all used to have. It used to be called Riverfront Stadium. Ocho.
Johnny
Either way, they can put me in a QB for the Browns. They're still gonna be in trouble.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, the jets, they got. They come out of the body. They got the jets on the road. They get the Ravens at home. They're at Oakland 49ers, Titans at home, at Bears, Bills at home, Steelers at home.
Johnny
You can win three of those. Yeah, they can beat the jets, the Titans, and the Raiders. Everything else, they're smoked on with Gabriel.
Shannon Sharpe
Are they gonna sack the Jets? Gonna blitz him. Gonna blitz him into oblivion.
Johnny
Ain't gonna score no points, though.
Shannon Sharpe
No, but they'll. They'll get some print overs off his up here. Well, it's hard to turn the guy when he's just checking it down.
Johnny
Special teams.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you block. Yeah. Block, punt, field goal. Miss something, you get a scooping score. But it. I just feel like I said, just watching the. Watching the Browns. Behold, they're more than a quarterback away. Now, we can beat up a quarterback.
Chad Johnson
On offense, you mean. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah.
Johnny
Yes, they definitely are.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. But here, the thing you have to be careful of, Ocho, is that we keep saying, okay, they good defensively, and then when you show up the offense, they happen. What happened with the Jets? Now your defense go to hell.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
So they still got to play at that level and get some players on offense. Now you. It starts with the quarterback.
Chad Johnson
That's the most.
Shannon Sharpe
They start with the quarterback. But you hear, they. They. They might want to move in Joku. They might move this guy, they might move that guy. All I know is that I'm calling 24 hours a day until Tuesday. They're gonna have to tell me, like 15 times, man, y' all stop calling. We not trade Miles, Gary.
Chad Johnson
Oh, now, you know they don't.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm calling.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, you can call as many times you want. Hey, hey, remember. Remember how. Shirley, this is Barbara. You can call as many times as you want. I ain't coming up off of Miles.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I'm. Hey, I'm gonna call. They. My a. They might have a reservation. Somebody might cancel. I'll keep calling a reservation. We booked for a year. Hey, y' all got anything available? You know, it's funny that you say that. Huh?
Chad Johnson
Three for Miles? Hell, no. Absolutely not.
Shannon Sharpe
For who? Let me ask you a question. How many games you winning with Miles?
Chad Johnson
That's a good one. I like that.
Shannon Sharpe
But again, you can win that many games without it, right?
Chad Johnson
Right. Right. Now, after I just. After I just paid him what I paid him, you think I'm gonna get. I'm gonna let him go. What?
Shannon Sharpe
I would let somebody else pay that salary.
Chad Johnson
Well, you know what? Throw the whole organization away, then.
Shannon Sharpe
You should listen.
Chad Johnson
You let him go now, you have no identity. You have no franchise, no face of the franchise, which Happened to be your best player. He's on defense, he's not a quarterback. And then you talk about, oh, and you want to let him go.
Shannon Sharpe
You.
Chad Johnson
Want to let him go before the.
Shannon Sharpe
Trade deadline and you got beat 32, 13 with five sacks. Nobody else in the history of the game had lost by more than three. When they had that many sacks in the game, they lost by 19. They lost about three scores. So with that being said, your best player, he's a top, he's a top 10 player in the league. He, he's a top one or two defensive player. And what do we get to show for that?
Chad Johnson
I say, listen, when you put it, when, when you put it together like that, I'm, I, I, I stand with you. And it's, it's really hard for me to argue the fact. But just thinking about it, just thinking about it, I know, I, I, I don't think there's anything that Alice or Philly can offer them where they will give him up. I, I, I just don't, I'm, I'm just being honest. They can't do that. Listen, they might, they didn't say no. You know, I'm seeing the tweets, I'm seeing the sources, I'm seeing the reports.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Joe, five first round, you said five. They said, because think about it, you got your own, you got the Jacksonville and you get three. No more numbers. So you'll get somebody number one. So you got three first round picks in 26. You get two and 27. You get two and 28.
Chad Johnson
And it wouldn't matter because let's say they have, they had the first round picks. Let's think about the, where they go.
Shannon Sharpe
Take a partner and a kicker with two of those.
Chad Johnson
Matter of fact, how many first round picks have they had the past 35 years? What the hell did they do? All of them mess up. It's, it's, it's not the first round picks is having to go to that organization. It's having to go to that environment. It's dysfunctional. It's dysfunctional. And, and it, it always has been. And they try to blame it on the players. Hell, at this point, you can't blame the, I'm sorry, you can't blame the players no more. You can't, you can't going, going to the jets as a quarterback, you can't blame the players no more because you ain't been shit. I'm sorry, we ain't been nothing since, since Broadway. Joe, come on now. It starts from the top and it trickles itself down.
Shannon Sharpe
But I would definitely. I would definitely. I would definitely look Ocho, because. And I think Miles would recognize. See, Miles doesn't want to be the bad guy. See, he doesn't want to publicly come out and says, okay, I'm tired of this losing. Trade me. But behind the scenes, I believe he's a guy. He won't object to you sending me to Philly, you sending me to Detroit or. Or Kansas City or somebody like that. He ain't gonna. He doesn't want to be the bad guy. He wants to be like. He wants to be liked. He doesn't want to be perceived as a bad.
Johnny
If it does happen, though, bro, that jet gonna be gassed up quick.
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Chad Johnson
Hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah.
Chad Johnson
At some point. I don't want to be your bad guy. At some point, you have to. At some point, you have to. Hey, dude, you. You out there in the pasture to die. You're wasting your. You. You wasting your prime years.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, God, you know, I want to be liked.
Chad Johnson
F. That I'm trying to win. I.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, God, I told you, like, if you. If you get me to the NFL and make me the number one pick, I wouldn't ask for anything. I said, God, if you get me to this third contract, I wouldn't. I would ask you for one more thing. God, what more? You know, you roll it. Hey, hey. One time, Just one time come through for me. I. I just think the thing is, is that, look, he plays hard, but Ocho, you get five sacks, and you still lose by three scores. So let's just say, for the sake of argument, Ocho, he only had two. Well, they lost about 30.
Chad Johnson
Hey, Unc, they on the field. Hey, Unc, they on the field 24 7. They on the field 24 7. They tired. They running the marathon. The offense go out there. They three and out, over and over. They can't put together a consecutive drive to get them boy the chance to get on the sideline and rest. They come off the field, the offense go on three plays. Now you back out there on the field after the punt.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you better have. You better have the training staff meeting you with water as you come off the field, because by the time you get to the bench, you got to turn around and go back out there. All right, D. You back up.
Chad Johnson
I guarantee you this. Wait. The Browns gonna play tomorrow, right? This they by week. No, they on the buy on the by this week. I guarantee this. When they come out this buy, they'll.
Shannon Sharpe
Lose that one, too.
Chad Johnson
Though they own the B this week. When they come back next week, if. If the offense is not showing any kind of production and they continuously going three and out and that defense is on the field for heavy minutes like they always are, somebody gonna snap on that sideline. I guarantee you somebody on that defense is going to snap and come out of character because enough is enough. And Stefans are going to lose the locker room in a minute. He gonna lose the locker room in it. Trying to stand by the quarterback that the powers that be upstairs that they want to see in the game. I guarantee you. Watch.
Shannon Sharpe
All I'm saying is, is I'm an offer because I. I believe if I get Miles Garrett, I'm never going to be picking in the top 10. I'm never going to be picking the top. Top 15. So I believe that pick is going to be somewhere between 27 and 32. I don't believe. You mean. You mean to tell me you believe that you can get another play? You believe you can get a Miles Garrett and pick him somewhere between 27 and 32? Hell no.
Chad Johnson
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm giving that up. I give up three first for Miles Garrett. I'll give up. He's about to turn what, 30. He about to turn 30. The. The last two days, three days before the end of December, 30, and the man got 110, 112, 15 sacks.
Chad Johnson
That's crazy, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Please tell. I'm gonna make the brown. I tell you what I'm gonna do, Johnny. I'm gonna make the Browns change their number. I'm gonna keep calling. I would robo call the ass auto dial change the number you don't want me to call.
Johnny
I want to see my dog. Get out of there. I gotta watch a Texas A and M Aggie a brother go out here. Have to go through. Go through this. I love seeing Miles when he comes back, but he damn looks like he's been beat with a stick for 16 games during the season. Can't be happy.
Shannon Sharpe
I just. I mean, he like, do I re. Do I really want to spend my last. He might play longer, but I believe he has three to four prime years where you're talking about 15, 20 good ones, good one. Do I want to spend that on the team with no chance based on what we've done, based on what we have, do I trust the organization to go out there and build this thing like Howie Roseman?
Chad Johnson
Absolutely not.
Shannon Sharpe
It's like Brad Holmes have a history of it. It's like Brian Gudekens has done. Is like, like the guy at the Rams.
Johnny
No.
Shannon Sharpe
Has done. Do I trust him to build that? Like Brett, Brett beach in Kansas City. Do I really trust him to do that? You noticed all the guys that I mentioned, they got a quarterback, they're about.
Johnny
To go through a rebuild again. They're about to. Stefanski, I don't think he makes it that much longer. If, if you go through the season, you end up you're 4 and 13 or 12 again, what do you do? You do start it all the way over again. You got no quarterback. Really, the only thing you got is a couple good pieces on defense is.
Shannon Sharpe
Miles and Denzel Ward. Hey, I mean you have, I mean Joku. But you know, you keep hearing rumors that they could potentially trade in Joku. I'm sure Jerry Judy is not happy based on he went to the Pro bowl last year. So he like, y' all got people thinking out here, I can't play. I just come off a Pro bowl season last year. Now y' all got me out here, I got 20 catches for 52 yards. And they people looking at me like, man, Judah lost it. You ain't lost nothing.
Colin Cowherd
Man.
Johnny
Best of luck. Best of luck. All the best. I'm be elsewhere.
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Shannon Sharpe
Johnny, we're gonna get you out of here after this one. Josh Allen was asked why he didn't look to break Dak Prescott 60 million per year record when he signed. I know it's weird, I say, but what's 5 million more gonna do for my life right now I can't already do. I live a really great life and I got a house, got a car, we're good.
Johnny
I agree, I agree.
Shannon Sharpe
No $5 million. If not, when you make that kind of money, when you got 250, 280 million guaranteed. Really? So now all of a sudden, man, if, man, if you'd have got that 5 million.
Chad Johnson
Hey, it's funny too, Johnny and Uncle listen, he can say that, you know, he's in a position to be able to say that. There are a lot of people in the world that can't leave that 5 million on the table. When you make as much as you do off the, off the field, it's okay because you're making up for it off the field.
Johnny
Here's the thing about him too. He, he ain't done. Josh Allen, he's got to be 31. He got.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't think he's that old. 30 might be 29.
Johnny
He was.
Shannon Sharpe
Mahomes is 30.
Johnny
Yeah, he was. Yeah, 29. Two, three years behind me. Three, four years behind me, he ain't done. I mean, yeah, he just signed extension that probably gives him until he's 34. Yeah, he got another one after that. He got another.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they, they'll do something by the time. Holy, 29. So by the time he 32, they'll do it over because that cap number be 75. $80 million. So they'll do something.
Johnny
And then another. Yeah, 55 behind it.
Shannon Sharpe
But see, here's the Ocho. You looking at it, you're looking at a guy if, when you got 280 million guaranteed. So now you want to give him 285, he's like, Bro, I'm good. You do. You talk and a person that's like a person. If, if somebody says, okay, we're gonna pay you a hundred and fifty five, 000, or you can make 157,000. But you're like, what's 20? If I'm making 150? If I'm making 155. Thousand. What's 25?
Chad Johnson
It ain't. It ain't. It ain't that much of a difference at this point, especially for quarterbacks. Now, if you talk about another skill position who. We're scarce and. And you got to get as much of as much as of it as you can when it's hot. Now we talk about one of. We talk about one of the top three quarterbacks in the NFL, period. So to them, that 5 million, you gonna get that on the back end somewhere down, down the road. Anyway.
Johnny
It helps when it helps with your wife. Helps when your wife got a little Brad, too. You ain't, you know, always help when your wifey got a little. Little cake to her name as well.
Shannon Sharpe
Johnny, thanks for joining us today. Make sure you check out Johnny's podcast Glory Days on all platforms. Johnny, appreciate you joining us. We'll see you next week. Go enjoy. Hey, shoot your unc some of that bread, man. I know you want a little something something.
Johnny
Say less. I'll see you boys.
Shannon Sharpe
All right. Appreciate you, John. See you next week, bro.
Chad Johnson
I'm feeling good, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
What I call what I tell you? We got. We go Friday, we go on Thursday night. What I tell you what's gonna happen. I said they're gonna fire. I said they gonna fire that general manager.
Chad Johnson
Wait, you was right, man. You was right. But you also said Mike McDaniel, we.
Shannon Sharpe
Gonna keep him on to the end of the year, he gone, too. Guess why. Because guess what? Oo I get an interim coach in here, he win four or five games, what are the players and what are the fans gonna say? Keep him. Keep him. Now I'm stuck. I'm starting fresh. After firing general manager Chris Greer on Friday, the Dolphins are now open to trading Jaylen Waddle. According to Ian Rapport report, Rapaport said the Dolphins would at least consider dealing Waddle, and it would be an expensive as young stars in their primes are, but not off the table. Something would have to blow the doors off them to dealing. Miami extended Waddle in 2024, and he's now under contract until 2028. In five years with the Dolphins, Waddle has caught 350 passes, 4,715 yards, 24 touchdowns. All three of those ranked totals rank in the top 10 in franchise history. Ooh. Would it be a smart move to clean house and rebuild? Or should the Dolphins protect keeping Waddle at all.
Chad Johnson
I mean, listen, rebuilding is always a smart move, but when it comes to rebuilding, you have to keep your key, Your key centerpieces. You have to, you have to keep your cornerstones at.
Colin Cowherd
At. At.
Chad Johnson
At certain positions. For one is one as. As wide receiver. You got to have a wide receiver. If Tyreek or Cheetah is not coming back next year, you got to keep somebody.
Shannon Sharpe
You don't let another year, the same.
Chad Johnson
Person, don't let another speedster, another consistent player like Waddle go, especially when there's inconsistent play at the quarterback position. If you let him go defensively, what do you do on defense? Is Mika, Think Pack is Minka, Fitzpatrick, you're one. Is that your centerpiece defensively? If so, then okay. But there are still questions about the quarterback position. There are still questions about that position. Now, if you talk about starting fresh, if you talk about rebranding, cleaning house, it all starts with the most important position of them all. We got goddamn Jalen Waddle. We ain't worried about that. We ain't worried about nobody on defense. You start at your quarterback position. Is TUA going to be the future of the Miami Dolphins? You start there. That's the first question that needs to be answered. And then you rebuild from there. So until you, until you understand what you want to do at that position, as far as rebuilding and starting over and starting from scratch, because you can start over all you. I gotta stop cursing. You can start over all you want, but until you have the most important piece on the table, a quarterback, you can start over as many times you want. You're going to always end up in the same place, which is what they've been since they've had Dan Marino, since Dan Marino's been gone. They didn't rebuilt and rebuilt and rebuilt, and they still in the same place. So you basically just treading waters.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they spent a lot of money. Oo. They went all in. They got to her. They. I mean, they already had Waddle. They. They drafted to her, so they went all in. They get Reek. You know, they, they draft a chain. They get Ramsey, they get K. Campbell, and they had, you know, they, they. They went all in. They went all in. But at some point in time, after a couple of years, if you're not there, I got to tear it down. I've got to tear it down. I just have to. And I have to rebuild again. You see what the Rams did? The Rams went for it. You know, they get. They had Aaron Donald, so they make the trade for Matthew Stafford. They'll go get a Von Miller. They got a Little Floyd, they get a Jalen Ramsey. Okay, they win it. Okay, let's try to go forward another. Again. One more. Nah, Bond, too expensive. I gotta let Leonard Floyd go. Hey, I gotta get up off Ramsey. But look what they did through the draft. They go get a verse, they go get the. What's the guy that we had on the other night from Tennessee, the defensive lineman. You go, you. You get in free agency, you get a Devonte Adams. You draft Puka, you move on from a Cooper Cup. You sign a care Kyron Williams. You see how. Yeah, you. Hey, they good. They good.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, they hit.
Shannon Sharpe
But you got. But that. Hey, that number nine for real. It all starts with him. I don't care what you put all you want to. All the dress. Hey, all that fancy stuff. When I go to a restaurant, it's like, oh, man, look at this.
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Shannon Sharpe
And it has a. It has a walnuts and they have. Does it taste good? Hey, Unc, is your quarterback good? All that other stuff that you got around, we got this and we got that. It's your quarterback.
Chad Johnson
When, When. When you go to a restaurant, right? Huh? All the sides you order is nice. All the sides you order is very nice. But the main dish, the most important.
Shannon Sharpe
Part, the entree, entree, that's.
Chad Johnson
That's where it start at.
Shannon Sharpe
I want that Japanese A5. Done.
Chad Johnson
What I want.
Shannon Sharpe
I want 10 ounces of it.
Chad Johnson
That's your quarterback.
Shannon Sharpe
Medium.
Chad Johnson
And if you ain't got that, I mean, hell, what's the point? The side, the size is cute. No, it's cute, but, hey, it ain't gonna get the job done.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, look, I like the mashed potatoes. Sometimes I get French fries. I. If they got creamed corn, I. I might even do right corn. But at the end of the day. Mr. Sharp, how. How was your meal? Y' all can serve somebody else out of this plate. That should tell you how my meal was. I. Hey, hell, no. That's how I look at it. So until the Dolphins are. If two is your guy, two is your guy. But at the end of the day. At the end of the day, Ocho, that guy has got to be. And that's why the guys. I mean, you look at Lamar and you look at. And my thing is, when you pay these guys, if you paying a guy like Lamar, I expect him to play like Lamar. I expect him to be like. I mean, two are making 53, 54, $5 million.
Chad Johnson
Listen, if you want to. If you want him to look Like Lamar. Let's say if you want him to just to look like Lamar, then you got to put the pieces around him.
Shannon Sharpe
He had better pieces than Lamar. That man had Tua and Waddle. I mean, had Tyreek and Wad. You tell me who Lamar had Tyreek.
Chad Johnson
And understand who Lamar is. You got to understand who Lamar is. Lamar, the type of player that doesn't need that kind of talent around him to elevate his offense. He elevates everybody else.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what I'm saying. Okay. We gave him tu. We gave him Tyreek. We gave him water.
Chad Johnson
Wait, wait. Now, let's not forget Tua was in the conversation as a top five quarterback those two years when 2 and 2 and water were going.
Shannon Sharpe
I wouldn't go. I wouldn't go quite that far. But I get what you're saying. He got a ch. I would. I would go that far. Hold on now, hold on, hold on. Two, two, eight. Top five. Maybe. Maybe he was in the movie top five. You talking about that movie top five with Chris.
Chad Johnson
I know, I know. I'm not mistaken. But those, those two seasons with, with Tyreek had what, 17, eight, almost 1800 statistically was top five in the NFL. I could be wrong.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. But I know there's been a lot of guys top five. But. But two or eight, nobody was ever gonna take two over. Oh, no, Homes. Stafford, Lamar, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow. That's okay.
Chad Johnson
Okay. I know what you mean. I'm just saying statistically, I mean, based on the numbers for that you look at. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
All right. I got to choose my wording. I got to choose my wording and sentence structure a little better. My bad.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. The Eagles added quarterback depth acquiring former Pro bowl quarterback Jair Alexander and the 2027 seventh round pick from the. From the Ravens in exchange for 2026 six round pick. Alexander played in only two ball games and Baltimore eight games this season, participating in a total of 61 snaps with no interception or pass defend. He had been a healthy scratch five times, including Thursday night game. Alexander expected to get an opportunity for more playing time with the Eagles. And the Philadelphia 7. Has a strong player led by Quinon Mitchell and Cooper Dean, but has not landed a solution for outside corner spot opposite of Mitchell. Adori Jackson was at the trauma center for third degree burns often for whatever the case may be. I don't know.
Chad Johnson
You had me thinking something happened for real, man. I just called. I just.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, he was at trauma. See, you see he get toasted. They had it all. Had his Bandage up.
Chad Johnson
Hey, man, you got me thinking. Something happened. For real, man. I just had to catch on. What you talking about? Come on, don't do it like that.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't. Ocho, I don't know, man. What happened? How these guys fall off like that.
Chad Johnson
I, I, I don't think it's really falling off. I think just some of the schemes and coaches have always put them in positions where they're not able to get exposed. And now you go, you go over there to Philly, where we need you to actually play man to man. So it's just you. So your skill set, you have to be able to show, you know, how good you are at playing the position of being an actual db. I can't. We can't scheme you. We can't help you. I can't put a safety over top. You got to show me you can actually play. So that's what happens when you, when you, when you come to Philly. You got to show what you could do. Keon Mitchell, he's very good at that. Listen, put me at seven, put me heels in the ground and let me play my eyes in the backfield first three steps after that, I'm locked in on my receiver, and I could do the rest. Now, if the other person on the other side can't do that or had the confidence to do that, this is what you get. You get exposed. Jair Alexander, when he's healthy, oh, he's one hell of a player, especially in man to man.
Shannon Sharpe
Hell, he healthy. He was a healthy scratch, I think. Ocho, you got to look at it. Think about in Green Bay when he's at his best. They had a pass R. Oh, yeah. So now the Ravens can't get to the quarterback. You see what happens? See, everybody. Oh, yeah, okay. What happens when he ain't got that? So now all of a sudden, you just can't sit. Sit your ass down. It's like you said, put your heels at seven and then drive on everything.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Hey, listen, and why. Why? I just saw somebody in the chat say, J exal is the, Is the zone a.
Johnny
A zone?
Chad Johnson
Db, where in the hell y'. All. Y' all been watching football?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they've been watching him this year with the Ravens when they had to play, man. That's why they say that. Yeah, they've been watching. Hey. Oo. You know, and see, here's the thing people expect when you go somewhere, they expect to get the performance that you gave over there.
Chad Johnson
Right, right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
That's why I say it don't matter a lion in the Serengeti or a line in the zoo. He has those instincts and he will tear your ass up regardless of where you are.
Chad Johnson
I like that.
Shannon Sharpe
You see, Matthew Stafford is still putting up those numbers that he did in Detroit. Now he just got a better, he got a better overall team around him. So now it means something. You go look at Matthew Stafford. Fewest 200 touchdown. Fewest to 300 touchdown. All those yards he's got, but they mean something because he's playing meaningful games. Better stop for it. Go out again.
Chad Johnson
I'm using. I, I just, I just stopped. I turned the camera off. So I'm using the laptop camera now because I got sick of the thing. I, I don't understand. I need it. I need it. See, you got Jordan. Dude, I need a tech guy because I wouldn't, I wouldn't have this problem. I'm trying to do. Everything about you can get it.
Shannon Sharpe
They, they're hired. All you gotta do is put it on Reddit.
Chad Johnson
What the hell, I got it.
Shannon Sharpe
Open up. Say, I need a tech guy. This is what I'm willing to pay. Must travel, must be free. Needs to be single, no pets. And because he got to be able to pick up and go anytime.
Chad Johnson
This, this, what, this is two nights in a row, right? It's the second night having to deal with this.
Shannon Sharpe
About five or six nights.
Chad Johnson
I just bought a new, I just put, I just bought a new camera now.
Shannon Sharpe
I just bought it and it's been, I've been seeing. What, what does it say? Elgato.
Chad Johnson
And listen, this is, this is how much, how much I love the show because I wanted my camera to work so bad, you know, as cheap as I am, I went and bought a new camera. A Sony, A Sony, a Sony. A 6100 and a little 13 inch laptop. Because I thought may, I thought maybe the software was out of date in the old one and I'm at Best Buy. The geek squad couldn't help me. I say, listen, miss, I got the show tonight. I don't have time to play. And give me, give me a new camera because it was under a TH000. And give me a new laptop. It was under a th000. Boom. I'm out. I'm out of here. I thought that would solve the problem. Lo and behold, still having the same issue. I got, I got the camera, I got the camera to register to the goddamn computer, but now I can't get it to stay on.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, but that's your problem. You Got the cheapest camera. So you're going to get the cheap results. I mean, the camera I used was kind of like the camera that was to feed the espn.
Chad Johnson
That's what you got?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
What kind of camera? What kind of.
Shannon Sharpe
Actually, it's better.
Chad Johnson
What, you got a Sony?
Shannon Sharpe
Is it a Sony?
Chad Johnson
Which one? Sony. What? What's the name of it?
Shannon Sharpe
It's the one you should have got. The one that you had.
Chad Johnson
Oh.
Shannon Sharpe
Which Was better? The FX3?
Chad Johnson
Nah, this. This. This is Sony 6400. A 6400.
Shannon Sharpe
You need to get a. A different one.
Chad Johnson
All right.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you just, you know, you just drop down, I mean, seven series to a five series.
Chad Johnson
Oh, is that. Is that bad? Oh, shoot. I thought they all do the same thing.
Shannon Sharpe
Or S to A, E. They all.
Chad Johnson
Do the same thing. Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
But that's what mine looks. Yeah, but you ain't like. I'm.
Chad Johnson
Actually, you didn't tell me what kind. What kind of camera you got. You just said you didn't. I said, well, you got a Sony or something? Like, what do you have? Okay, but which one? There's so many different models.
Shannon Sharpe
Ash. Ash is not going to send you a new camera.
Chad Johnson
No, no, no, no, no, no, man. Christmas coming up. Christmas coming up. I'm gonna treat myself. I'm gonna treat myself to the right camera.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you will treat yourself well. I have Ash to see you do that.
Chad Johnson
Do that. Do that. Do that for me. Do that for me.
Shannon Sharpe
John Moran was suspended one game for conduct detrimental to the team. Here's the post game interview that led to the suspension. Ocho, take a listen to what John had to say. Okay, we're gonna put it in the can. We finna run. Lord have mercy. We had two hours to get this thing canned and get ready.
Chad Johnson
Lord.
Shannon Sharpe
Guys, just watch out. I just want y' all to bed. We come out like, okay, we throw to the sound, and then we get the sound. Are we gonna have the sound, guys? Okay. Ocho Job was suspended for conduct what they deemed detrimental to the team. A reporter asked him about why he didn't play last night. He said, ask the coach. They asked him again another way. He said, ask the coach. I guess they felt that me not playing. I. I watched this game and I wasn't like, well, damn. What ja. Why John ain't in the game? I'm asking myself that. He played 31 minutes. I mean, he was a little off. But Luca was cooking last night. Luca was cooking. I mean, Luca had 44, 12, and 6, and he was on one of Those binges and he gets on a bench like that. But I was like, something's going on. Something.
Chad Johnson
Right, right, right, right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
Because, bro, we only four games into the season, and I know Jaw had an injury last year, but I'm like, I was wondering why Ja didn't play. And then you already know when it's something. When he say, ask the coach. Ask the coach. Ask the coach, hey, but.
Chad Johnson
But what would it be this early, though? What would it be this early? Obviously, we four games into the season, I mean, everything. Every. Everyone should have a fresh start. Everything. It should be any internal issues. But there seems to be internal issues already. And especially when you have a superstar like Ja, you know, they not gonna trade him.
Shannon Sharpe
They.
Chad Johnson
They definitely not gonna do that because he is the face of the franchise.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, let's. Let's. Let's get to the sound and you can finish your thoughts on the other side, hopefully. Go ask the question. Do you feel like.
Chad Johnson
I mean, it was anything you could do differently?
Johnny
I guess.
Shannon Sharpe
They had a whole spill in here, so. From the outside, it did. And the outside may be wrong, but from the outside, it didn't look like you had your usual energy tonight. Go ask the question.
Colin Cowherd
Staff.
Shannon Sharpe
What. Okay. You feel like you should play more? Go ask the coaching staff, should I play more or not? What could have been done.
Chad Johnson
What could have been done different to get a different outcome other than asking.
Shannon Sharpe
The coaching staff, according to them, probably don't play me. Honestly, that's what basically the message was after. So it's cool.
Chad Johnson
The coaching staff message was it's cool.
Shannon Sharpe
We good?
Chad Johnson
You.
Shannon Sharpe
You didn't have anything physically wrong in terms of illness or anything. You were under the weather. Okay? I'm fine.
Chad Johnson
All right. I mean, those seem. Those seem to be good answers to me. You know, keep. Keep them out your business. You didn't play. There were some things that went on internally behind closed doors. You didn't want to involve it, let the media know what those. What those issues were, you know, the way Tua did. So you told them to go ask those who had an issue with you. Hey, I didn't see a problem with the answers. Now I understand. I'm not sure how that was. Conduct detrimental to the team. He didn't say anything out of line. He wasn't disrespectful. He just said whatever you guys want. To know what? Please don't ask me. I'm not going to tell you. Why? Ask the coaching staff.
Shannon Sharpe
It's just so early in the season. I thought. I think JA had a very good relationship with Taylor Jenkins. Taylor Jenkins was fired. I don't know if this guy was on the staff or he was brought in outside, I don't really know. But J did seem frustrated. Yeah, I think he had eight points last night. He was 3 of 14. He's never been a great three point shooter, but I mean it's going to take some time. I mean he missed time the last couple of years. It's going to take some time to get his rhythm back in a game like situation. Practice is practice, games are games. He's a phenomenal player. He's an all star. He's an all NBA selection. And for him to only play 31 minutes, they had a 15 point lead and next thing you know they were Luca and AR had wiped that out.
Chad Johnson
It's just.
Shannon Sharpe
I, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe he's had his run of Memphis.
Chad Johnson
You think so?
Shannon Sharpe
Sometimes, you know, we need different partners.
Chad Johnson
I said that last year in hopes, you know, after, you know, there were small grumblings of, of Pat maybe going to get, you know, two people in off season. It didn't happen the way I thought it would and he was supposed to be down here in Miami, but you know, things didn't turn out. But maybe it might happen sometime throughout the season. I'm just throwing that tidbit out there.
Shannon Sharpe
I know he's frustrated.
Chad Johnson
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
You can tell he's frustrated. I mean, he said the coach might have thought, you know, him playing not not playing was a good idea. But he said he's healthy. But it seems to me based on this course of action, they got a shorter and shorter leash, shorter and shorter fuse when they're going to deal with John.
Chad Johnson
I don't think he's worried about that. He's ready to get up out of there when you start answering questions.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you do know when they suspend you, you don't get paid, right? You know, the last couple of times they suspended him, they did that without pay.
Chad Johnson
You understand? He ready to get up out of there, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
But I'm just saying I want to, I want to leave somewhere too. But I ain't quitting no job until I got another job lined up.
Chad Johnson
We talk about John.
Shannon Sharpe
What you're saying.
Chad Johnson
Well, I'm not gonna say plenty.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm not trying to give them no 3, 4, 5 million dollars back and just cause I want to get out of there. I can want to get out of there and still get my money. That's all I'm saying, I'm not saying that. He doesn't want to get out of there.
Chad Johnson
I got you. Hey, Unc, I think, I think I found a camera. I found the camera. What was the camera now? I, I don't know what, I don't know what this is. And it kind of looks, it kind of looks too much like a movie camera, but I'm assuming it's a little small. I want to stay, you know, with the handheld thing. Sony. Tell me. I know you know about Kid Joe. I know Jordan can hear me. The Sony. The Sony H XR NX 800. Or is that too much?
Shannon Sharpe
You heard it, what is it?
Chad Johnson
Sony, Sony HXR NX 800HX. That's too much. That's too much, huh? It looked more like a movie camera, but it looks small.
Shannon Sharpe
That's like a camcorder.
Chad Johnson
Okay, not that, not that.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, did y' all jump on my part? Did y' all drip on that prize pick last night? Cuz we hit that thing. Marketing had 33 a book got six, seven rebounds. We won it 125. I put my pocket little stocking stuffer. Here are the four pick parlay playhead of tomorrow football. Oh, Lord have mercy. Hell, that work. See, that what I'm talking about right there. That's why I kept talking, George. Okay, Ocho, it's time for player fade. Presented by prize picks. Matthew golden. More than two and a half receptions versus Carolina.
Chad Johnson
You know what? I can't even trust it. Huh? I mean the, the beat.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, listen, I can't either cut in or throwing the ball.
Chad Johnson
I'm just getting ready to say things I don't understand. You have someone, you, you pick a, you pick a receiver like that, as special as he is. I, I'm not calling him cheetah. I'm not calling him cheater. I'm just saying he had, that, he had that kind of ability if he's used correctly and put in position to do so. And they don't do it. That photo speed going down. Well, maybe, I don't know. I don't know what it is, but no, I, I can't trust it. I'm, I'm just being honest, like, I'm just being honest. We what we in. We in week what? Week seven, eight, something like that?
Shannon Sharpe
No, we in week ten. Yeah. Hello. Yeah. Five and three. So about week nine.
Chad Johnson
They not, they not doing nothing with him. I, I, you, you 4, 2, 4, 2. Hell, you fast and half the population. Yeah, you have you faster than half the goddamn NFL and they ain't using you the right way. Look, hey, they give you reverse here and there, man. What we doing?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, push me down the field. I got 4:2 speed. I ain't trying to do all that gadget stuff. Let me get down the field in a hurry. Bo nicks more than 206. Well basically 207 passing yards versus the Texans. Texas defense becoming man. And Marvin Mills is out.
Chad Johnson
The Neil, what you thinking? That's your. That's your team now.
Shannon Sharpe
I know man. They get after the quarterback. They attack the quarterback man on that turn.
Chad Johnson
It's fast as hell too.
Shannon Sharpe
See, I hate that because you get a lead and then all of a sudden they start throwing and catch up.
Chad Johnson
Late and you know it's only 206 yards.
Shannon Sharpe
206. I'm gonna say yeah. I'm gonna say yes.
Chad Johnson
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Travis kelsey More than 45. 46 receivers.
Chad Johnson
Who they playing?
Shannon Sharpe
Buffalo in Buffalo. They normally.
Chad Johnson
That's a good one. Damn. That's gonna be a good game, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. Is that. Is that a late game tomorrow? No, I think that's the CBS for 425 game. Or is it Sunday night? It's a early game.
Chad Johnson
One o'.
Shannon Sharpe
Clock. No, I'm. No, we talking about Buffalo. Buffalo Kansas City.
Johnny
It's.
Chad Johnson
It's a. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. 45. 45 say under.
Chad Johnson
Oh yeah. It's a 425 game.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You think Travis Kelsey get more than 46 receiving yards?
Chad Johnson
Nope. Yeah, against Buffalo. Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
I'mma go under.
Chad Johnson
I got you.
Shannon Sharpe
Kamani Vidal 60 yards rushing.
Chad Johnson
But he just came on the show and what happens? What happens to everybody that comes on the Show?
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Chad Johnson
Cincinnati again.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know if you guys saw but the Dodgers won in 11 innings. 5 4. Yamamoto is the MVP. Two games and then did he get. Did they give him the save or did he get another win?
Chad Johnson
Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
But I think. I think he's. I think I know Hershey's one MVP in 88. I think Koufax also won MVP.
Chad Johnson
You see that stands out.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy.
Colin Cowherd
Wow.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, yeah. That's the mvp.
Chad Johnson
He a legend already, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
He's a legend. Everybody remember the. They used to call Oral Hersheiser Bulldog. That's him. Obviously Sandy Koufax had had crazy stuff. Arm injury. Letter but, man, he was dealing. I mean, he painted the corner at 97, then he dropped down with a splitter. Then he come with a change up a fourth. Then he came with a. A four seam fastball, and he pitching out the slide. Yeah, nasty. It's time. Hey, Dodgers are indeed when you play, that kind of money, I mean, they're. They're dynasty.
Chad Johnson
I know they're not gonna win the World Series next year, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Let's go mar the Marlins. But, hey, but the Blue Jays, The Blue Jays, look, they had the base. They had a one out, have Vlad on third base, and they hit. Yes, they. They lost last night when he lost the game, because the guy had that. That. That blunder, that running error. At the crack of the bat, he took off and then he got doubled off second. And then they had a situation here tonight, and then Mookie Best, you know, hit the ball in shortstop. And Mookie. Mookie might be the first. The most versatile baseball player that I've ever seen. You talking about a guy that can play every position, probably, except catch. I wouldn't say. I wouldn't put it back. But he could play right field, center, left field, third, short, second.
Chad Johnson
You can do it all, man.
Shannon Sharpe
He versatile. Hey, hey, can you. Hey, he athletic, if you know what, Ocho, he can bowl like a 280. He can shoot, man. Mookie Best is talented if you know what.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, so he basically. Basically like me. That's nice.
Shannon Sharpe
All right, we're gonna get you out of here on this one. It's our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Josiah Trung says, ocho, I've been trying to get in contact with you so I can become your tech guy.
Chad Johnson
Where were you at?
Johnny
What.
Chad Johnson
What, What, What. What city? What state you in?
Shannon Sharpe
I guess he say he DM you.
Chad Johnson
Hey, Mike. Well, you know, I don't check them. I don't check them DMs. Well, I'm married. I don't check them DMs. And you gotta. Hey, shoot me. Shoot. Matter of fact, my Twitter is quiet right now because I haven't tweeted for a few hours. Send me a tweet right now and then let me know it's you. And. And we gonna get up because I'm honestly all joke. I know I play around a lot. I make a lot of jokes. But when we come on the show, I would love to have, you know, some consistency when it comes to the technology part of stuff and my camera going out, you know, in the middle of the show, like, enough is enough and enough is enough. And I didn't spend. I didn't spend good money to make sure stuff work. And obviously it's not working because I don't know what I'm doing because I'm not tech savvy. So if you could help me out on that end. If you're not way out on the west coast and you know, you over here on the east coast, man, I ain't got no choice but to do right, because I don't have a team. Unk got a team. And maybe it's time for me to get myself a team so things run a little.
Shannon Sharpe
You do know, unpay for the team, right?
Chad Johnson
Oh, you got to pay for that. Yeah, don't worry about it. Yo. Hey, Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
I moved Jordan from Cincinnati. Jordan moved to la. Then I moved. Jordan moved too.
Chad Johnson
Oh, my. My bad, boy. I'mma just use two YouTube. Don't worry about it.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Ethan Johnson, buddy, go get dog walk by the Ohio State University. Who are you talking.
Chad Johnson
Oh, I know you had to pay for that shit.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I guess he talking about Indiana east coast cab. Colorado could have put d' Angelo Pounds. Prime recruiting staff said Pounds wasn't tall enough. Colorado has fools on its staff. Don't believe me? Look at tonight's score. Oh, they. They got him blasted. I mean, it's. It's disappointing. It's not that they're losing and this I don't want. Look, Chat, I'm not saying it's okay to lose. It's how they're losing. These games aren't close, they're not competitive, and it's. It's. It's difficult for you. It's difficult for me to watch. I mean, these games aren't close. You're at home and you get thumped like this. Jason Zeldorf, another horrible loss for Colorado and Prime. Could he be let go? No, I don't think after this. I don't think after. He just signed a contract extension. But it needs to improve. They've got to win some games. They got to be more consistent and they got to play better. It's really just that simple.
Chad Johnson
You know what you need too, Unc, Outside of playing better, you know, you need the players. You need.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you need the players. But you. Hey, the coach, they need to coach better too, now. Cause when we. When we look at. When we look at lsu, who do we blame? Do they got players at lsu? Yeah, okay. We blame the coach. At some point in time, the coaches got to Coach better too. So they do to do a better job. Cuz whatever the case may be, maybe it's not resonating, maybe they need to dumb it down. But oo, you can't keep getting beat like this.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, you right.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean what, what was last year? Last week's score against 55 something?
Chad Johnson
I mean, I think it was. I think. I thought they put up a 50 burger.
Shannon Sharpe
And then they got beat by Arizona guy. Well how bad Arizona beat him tonight. No, they didn't beat no Utah. Who did it? No, I'm saying this year they played this year. No, last week they lost 50 to 7. 53. 7. Okay, what did they lose by tonight? Yeah, that. Come on, that's 100 points. 52 7.
Chad Johnson
They sold 53 last week.
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Chad Johnson
Hey, a back to back 50 burger.
Shannon Sharpe
Exactly. No, that's not good enough. True and infamous 73. Clemson lost to Duke. Is Dabble Sweeney next to go? Hey, he on alert dabo already? What you mean already?
Chad Johnson
I. I could have swore I asked about him getting fired a few shows ago. You said nah.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, I said he okay.
Chad Johnson
Oh, he's on alert now?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Because Ocho, you got a dad. Okay, okay, but first of all, he said he's gonna retire once players. Yeah, they don't been getting paid for two years and he's still there.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, he ain't going nowhere.
Shannon Sharpe
Of course not. Long as he making his left million. They redoing his contract. He's good with that. But Lord forbid the players make a hundred thousand, two hundred thousand dollars. Oh, but it's the end of college football and we know it. Good. Anthony Davis. Hey, Ocho. I'm from Fort Lauderdale for the weekends. You got any food recommendations? Oh, don't. Hey, don't forget to change your clocks tonight. Stay late. Oh, that's right, we go. Hold on. Fall back. Oh, we go back.
Chad Johnson
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, hey, we might stay on here. Another thing.
Chad Johnson
That's fine. I ain't got no problem. Early nap. That's why I'm so. That's why I'm so hyped tonight. But listen, recommendations. I mean while you're here. The Mai Kai restaurant, You want to try that? Even though you all the way in Fort Lauderdale, you might want to take that trip and drive on down to the city where I'm from. You know, my area is a restaurant called I Crave. I want you to try that. I want you to try Smith and Webster as well. While you here. There's a Jamaican spot that I really love. I really, really enjoy it's. All the way in Wynwood. It's a little, it's a little hike from, from, from Fort Lauderdale. It's called Dukanu. You might, you might want to try that. Fort Lauderdale obviously had its own restaurants, especially over there on Los Olas. I don't really frequent that way too much. I kind of stick to what I know and I just recycle the same stuff over and over. So everything I just mentioned is, is, is what I do continuously for the past eons of years since I've been here. And I just, and just throw Tootsie in there too. She's in there. If you got a chance, if you, you know, your girl let you go to Tussies, you can try that out as well.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm coming down there. Ocho. We're gonna go out, we're gonna go to. What's that? Prime? No prime. We going to prime, right?
Chad Johnson
What's that prime 112 poppy steak. I mean with the SDK. What you want? What you want?
Shannon Sharpe
I haven't been to SDK. I want to go to. I want to go to Poppies. Which one, which one's the best one?
Chad Johnson
Hey, presentation. Poppy steak is nice, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, Is the food good? Damn presentation. I don't told you that.
Chad Johnson
That's, that's, that's why see on. I frequent these five star restaurants every blue moon with my daughters. My daughters have introduced me to these restaurants. Listen, Poppy steak was my first time going Dave Grutman owner, obviously. And you know how he does things. I don't know if you know much about him, but he doesn't play. Not only when it comes to presentation, but when it comes to the food as well. When it comes to the food and then the presentation is like, it's like five star. There's a reason why it's called five star. So you, you, you, you're gonna enjoy that. We're gonna get the tomahawk steak. And so with the tomahawk steak, I.
Shannon Sharpe
Want that big old. I want.
Chad Johnson
No, no, no, no, no, no. Wait a minute, wait a minute now.
Shannon Sharpe
I told you I ain't paying that thousand dollar for that gold staking up your ass box.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah, no, don't worry about it.
Shannon Sharpe
I will. I want that Japanese a 5 10-12oz medium.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, they got that too. But that come with a presentation. When you order that kind, you get a whole presentation with it. You don't just order and they just bring it out to you. Oh no, they coming out dancers and. Oh, I'm Good.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't care about no presentation.
Chad Johnson
I do. It's about experience. Huh? When you go to these type of restaurants, I'm. I'm experience in Miami. When you come to.
Shannon Sharpe
I've been eating for, like, 55. I've been eating solid food for about 56 years.
Chad Johnson
I understand you've been eating for 55 years, seven months. But you've never experienced eating it like this. That's the difference. When you come to Miami. That's what it's about. That's why everybody wants to come here.
Shannon Sharpe
They can put that. If it's good, put it on a paper plate.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, okay. I got you. I got you. But listen, it's about word of mouth. So when you come to Miami, you. You have these experiences in these restaurants, and you go back and you tell somebody else, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, so you know criminal coming up, right? Oh, yeah.
Chad Johnson
Oh, I just started shopping. I just started shopping three months ago.
Shannon Sharpe
I would. I mean, if I get my money, I'll start shopping, too.
Chad Johnson
Come on.
Shannon Sharpe
I want to. I want to start shopping. I want to get a head start on the deal.
Chad Johnson
I'm. I'm. Damn. I'm. Damn.
Colin Cowherd
I'm.
Shannon Sharpe
Chad.
Chad Johnson
I mean, I'm done.
Shannon Sharpe
Chad. Don't y' all want me to get my 5,900 so I can. I can, you know, get some criminal gift for my kids and grandkids?
Chad Johnson
I mean. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn criminal. Right. Corner. As a matter of fact, they're coming to put up my criminal stuff next week.
Chad Johnson
Are you putting up decorations and all?
Johnny
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Hey, I got a question. I'm glad you just said that. Can you pay somebody to put decorations up? Like.
Shannon Sharpe
Like, I can't, because I ain't got 5,900. I mean, I could if I had 5,900.
Chad Johnson
No, I'm saying, like, lights and stuff. Would you rent it?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. They put up light, tree, everything. Yes. And come take it down once they're done.
Chad Johnson
I think. I think I'm going to do that this year. I'm.
Johnny
I'm.
Chad Johnson
Hey, I have a question, too. It's kind. It's kind of personal.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
I want all the kids with me for Christmas. What do you think moms are going to say if I ask that?
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. I mean, they should allow it. I mean, they have them most of the time, so you should be allowed to get one of them.
Johnny
One?
Chad Johnson
I said. I said all.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I'm saying one of the Christmases.
Chad Johnson
That's why. That's why. I see. That's why you my dog. You my dog. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
So, yeah, I put that out there in front of the world to kind of give me an advantage in a head start. So for those of you that have kids with me, I would like my babies on Christmas, waking up with me Christmas morning. And thank you. If you have a problem with that, talk to management and it's on.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I. I think like, when the kids got big enough, you know, hey, if they got Thanksgiving, I got Christmas. The next year I got Thanksgiving, they got Christmas. We just alternate. Now my son now, you know, he got his own family, so he get to decide, you know, it's. It's a. It's a tough hump, you know, the love, you know, two kids way cross country. So he probably. He normally stays his mom in law and father in law on that side of town, his mom's on that side, you know, close by. But I get it. The girls, you know, they split. You know, one year they come here and next year they go there.
Chad Johnson
I like it. I like it.
Shannon Sharpe
Del Monte Green Beans. About time. Sit down with Obi Wan Kenobi. Nas.
Chad Johnson
That's a good. That'd be a good one, huh? That'd be a good one. Sitting down with Nas. Hey, I just.
Shannon Sharpe
Because, you know, I was over there in Queensbridge, you know, with jungle and all them, and you know, with Steve style. PJ P 11 thoughts on the Clowns? Excuse me. Sorry. The Browns getting a new stadium. As an Ohio native, I hate it. I can see if we were Kansas City, but my tax dollars going to some bums getting a new home. They'll win only four games if that. Yeah. Hell, I remember when they built that new stadium. And I never understood this. Mr. Mr. Model begged to upgrade the stadium. He begged to get a new stadium. No, no, we ain't giving you nothing. Three years after he left, guess what they got sitting right out the old Stadium. Now, 25 years later, guess what they got pro. I get a new one.
Chad Johnson
Listen, if. If I. If I was. If I lived in Cleveland, I wouldn't feel so bad. If the team was doing well, I wouldn't feel so bad. If I had something to be excited about, I wouldn't feel bad at all.
Shannon Sharpe
I would feel bad. You know why? Because these guys worth three, four billion dollars. And you. You taxing me. You want a new State of Bill? Oh, yo, hide that. You build a new house. Hey. Oh, yo, build me a new house, right?
Chad Johnson
Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
You don't want to do house, build your own damn house. No. Stop texting me. People, man. It's hard enough out here.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. You write about that.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, I ain't giving up no money to my get my snap benefits back. Sawyer Carlson said Jordan love better than tour by long shot. Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Who in the hell even.
Shannon Sharpe
Hell yeah. Kevin Norwood Jr. My question is what's best seven game moment from hockey, baseball, basketball and your face your favorite. Well it's kind of I mean it's all because it's a winner take all. This is why football the best sport. You know why? Because every game they play in the playoff is a game seven is a winner take all. Let that sink in for a second. Every game in the NFL playoffs is a game seven get one chance to get it right but for me I probably look I mean this theory was crazy. I mean you go to game seven, you go 11 games you get what was that game three? Was that game three? Did we 18 game three right win game three with 18. So this, this, this series was like. But if you, if you really throw out those two games all the rest of them was blowouts. You look at game one they got blown out. But I probably say basketball game sevens because even last year game seven OKC and Andy was was we thought it was going to be a very good game. Hadley not got hurt. Remember game seven Lakers playing game seven to p. Yeah, I'll probably say I I'll probably say yeah I'm going basketball. That concludes this episode of Night Cap. We want to thank each and every one of you. Congratulations to the Los Angeles Dodgers back to back champs World series. Yamamoto comes in get wins three games. He wins game two. What a complete game. He pitches six inning in game three and then he comes in and get the game, get the win in Game 7. What an unbelievable performance by that young man. Now you see why they paid the money to go get oh yeah him. Thank you guys for joining us. I am your favorite unc Shannon Sharp and that is my partner and co host that is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Like to thank each and every one of you for your support. Because of you we've been able to grow to an unprecedented level and because of you will continue to grow. So I want to thank each and every one of you. Ocho would like to thank each and every one of you from the bottom of our hearts for helping us become what we become. Check out my cognac shade by laportier laportierconac.com now if you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. Best Tasting Premium VSOP Cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Check out my media company on all of it platform Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being pinned in the chat, we want to thank Johnny as always joining us. He's our contributor for College Football on Saturday night, Indiana Hoosier DB d' Angelo Ponds. He joined us. Thank you. Indiana looks really, really good. Oklahoma beats Tennessee 33 27. The number five Georgia Bulldogs survived the Florida Gators 24 20. Miami suffered an overtime loss 2620 interception on the first possession by Beck and SMU goes in from the one yard line and win 26 20. Who else? Oh, Texas wins 3431 Arch Manning had a sensational day throwing the football today. He threw for over 300 yards, 70% completion and he had three touchdowns. 25 of 33, 328, three touchdowns, no interception. Diego Pavia was 2738, 365, three touchdowns, but he did lose a fumble. Made it a very interesting game late in the ball game, but Texas survived. They'll probably they're going to move up in the ranking. Vandy's going to fall some and Miami's going to fall. But thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow night. What's the Sunday night game? We'll see you after the game on Sunday night. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm unk he's Ocho. See you tomorrow night after NFL football. Does anything go better than Lego and Star Wars? I don't think so. Kids will love becoming a part of the galactic action while playing out their favorite adventures like with Jango Fett Starship. I mean this Lego set is fantastic. It features a detailed recreation of Jango Fett's starship with four stud shooters, a silver Seismic Charge dropping function and wings that rotate with gravity. Plus it has three Jango Fett with two blasters and a jetpack, Young Boba Fett and Llama Su. Perfect for endless play. Now for the big fans, there's Jango Fett's Fire Spray Class Starship from the Ultimate Collector series. Packed with details and surprises for fans, this large scale set is perfect for anyone hunting for a mindful building escape game. Plus you end up with a fantastic display piece. You can build this while your little ones build the kid set. You'll be like Jango and Boba building an adventure shop. Now for Star wars lego sets on lego.com or in lego retail stores.
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Date: November 2, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe (with Chad Johnson, Colin Cowherd, Johnny)
This episode of Club Shay Shay’s "Nightcap" is packed with sharp, unsparing takes on the state of the NFL and college football, big breaking news about the Miami Dolphins’ front office shakeup, and the aftermath of a dramatic World Series win for the Dodgers. Shannon Sharpe is joined by Chad Johnson and Johnny Manziel to debate quarterback controversies, player trades, coaching blunders, and the hopelessness of dysfunctional franchises. Between expert football analysis and plenty of friendly roasting, the group also reflects on player empowerment, career decisions, and a little life off the field (including, as always, some Miami restaurant recommendations).
[03:02 – 06:46]
"For the last three years they've done this, they've done this." – Shannon Sharpe, [04:20]
"Hey, out there, Highland Park, they got it, they got it out there… their money got… smell like moth..." – Shannon Sharpe, [06:08]
[10:59 – 25:52]
"At this point, bring yourself a spark. Put Shador in. Let him go. Let him rip." – Johnny, [12:02]
"It's not the first round picks. It's having to go to that organization. It's dysfunctional... and it always has been." – Chad Johnson, [20:54]
"You get five sacks, and you still lose by three scores..." – Shannon Sharpe, [22:50] "You let him go now, you have no identity." – Chad Johnson, [19:19]
"You believe you can get a Miles Garrett… picking somewhere between 27 and 32? Hell no." – Shannon Sharpe, [25:12]
[32:02 – 34:47]
"'What's $5 million more gonna do for my life right now I can't already do?'" – Shannon Sharpe quoting Josh Allen, [32:23]
[35:06 – 41:52]
"Rebuilding is always a smart move, but when it comes to rebuilding, you have to keep your key… your cornerstones at certain positions." – Chad Johnson, [36:25]
"Until you have the most important piece on the table, a quarterback, you can start over as many times you want. You're going to always end up in the same place…" – Chad Johnson, [37:34]
[42:57 – 45:41]
"When you come to Philly, you got to show what you could do." – Chad Johnson, [44:09] "A lion in the Serengeti or a lion in the zoo… he will tear your ass up regardless of where you are." – Shannon Sharpe, [46:03]
[50:01 – 56:16]
"He ready to get up out of there… but I ain't quitting no job until I got another job lined up." – Shannon Sharpe, [55:45]
[57:05 – 61:43]
[61:45 – 64:12]
“He’s a legend already, huh?” – Chad Johnson, [62:37]
[64:17 – 75:23]
[75:23 – 79:44]
"It's not okay to lose. It's how they're losing. These games aren't close, they're not competitive…" – Shannon Sharpe, [66:05]
On Miami Dolphins Rebuild:
“You can start over all you want, but until you have the most important piece on the table, a quarterback, you’re going to always end up in the same place.”
— Chad Johnson, [37:34]
On Browns Futility:
“It's not the first round picks. It's having to go to that organization. It's dysfunctional... and it always has been.”
— Chad Johnson, [20:54]
On Keeping Talent vs. Stockpiling Picks:
“You believe you can get a Miles Garrett… picking somewhere between 27 and 32? Hell no.”
— Shannon Sharpe, [25:12]
On the Nature of Sports Business:
“You don’t want a new house, build your own damn house. No. Stop taxing me. People, man. It's hard enough out here.”
— Shannon Sharpe, [76:59]
On Living Life Off the Field:
"I'm gonna treat myself to the right camera."
— Chad Johnson, [49:48]
On MLB Dynasties and Greatness:
“He’s a legend already, huh?"
— Chad Johnson, [62:37]
This episode is a great demonstration of why Club Shay Shay is so popular: you get passing plays and contract breakdowns, but also real talk about front-office power, personal journeys, and where to eat in Miami after the game. Whether your interest is the NFL, MLB, or just the art of the funny sports roast, you’ll find smart, unscripted banter that’s both informative and highly entertaining.