Nightcap Hour 2: Donald Trump ANOINTING the next LSU Coach? + Icewear joins NIGHTCAP & promotes NEW Music + Mayweather x Pacquiao PART 2?

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2: Donald Trump ANOINTING the next LSU Coach? + Icewear joins NIGHTCAP & promotes NEW Music + Mayweather x Pacquiao PART 2?

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Date: October 31, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco Johnson, with Colin Cowherd
Special Guests: Kamani Vidal (Los Angeles Chargers RB), Icewear Vezzo (Detroit Rapper)
Episode Theme: Sports, music, and culture intersect as Shannon, Ochocinco, and guests talk NFL journeys, LSU drama, Detroit Lions hopes, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, hustle mindsets, and more.

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Overview

This episode delivers a wide-ranging, highly energized discussion—part sports bar, part life coaching, part cultural critique. Hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe and NFL legend Chad Ochocinco break down the latest in college football controversy (including LSU's coaching drama and a fantastic gubernatorial quote on Donald Trump), give a platform to Charger Kamani Vidal’s underdog story, and celebrate Detroit’s hip-hop scene with rapper Icewear Vezzo. The crew also debates money and priorities in pro sports, the perils of mixing friendship with business, and the allure (or absurdity) of a Mayweather vs. Pacquiao rematch.

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Key Segments and Insights

Kamani Vidal Talks NFL Journey and Mindset

[03:18 – 14:26]

• Kamani Vidal joins to discuss his path from Marietta High School, being drafted by the Chargers, and overcoming obstacles—including being stuck on the practice squad after the team drafted and signed other running backs.
• Motivation from Adversity:
  “I was just trying to prove them wrong, honestly ... Use that as motivation for myself.”
  —Kamani Vidal [04:48]
• The importance of patience and keeping ready for the opportunity:
  “I knew there was a chance even if I wasn't able to get on the active roster ... a team can still claim you. So, you know, I was just working off hope.”
  —Kamani Vidal [07:24]
• Family Legacy: Hank Aaron is Kamani’s great-uncle—always a fun ice-breaker:
  “Two truths and a lie—always catch them.” [09:08]
• Modeling His Game: “Kind of like Josh Jacobs.” [09:19]
• Off-the-field passions: walks his dog (a lab mix) and loves gaming, but “not FIFA!” [11:03]
• Top 5 RBs Today: Jonathan Taylor, Jahmyr Gibbs, Bijan Robinson, James Cook, Christian McCaffrey [12:10]
• Advice and props from the hosts: Ochocinco praises Kamani for working through setbacks:
  “You didn’t put your head down. … You’re like, well, my opportunity will come, I’m gonna do what I’m supposed to do.” [13:55]
• Best moment: “Ain’t no better feeling” than family in the stands at an NFL game. [13:55]

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LSU Coaching Drama: Politics, Big Contracts, and Bold Claims

[17:41 – 29:40]

• LSU fires Coach Brian Kelly and AD Scott Woodward quits, leading to a power struggle and hilarious political meddling:
  Louisiana’s Governor Jeff Landry:
  “I can tell you right now, Scott Woodward is not selecting the next head coach. Hell, I'll let Donald Trump select him before I let him do it.” [18:06]
• Shannon on accountability:
  “They also need to hold the people accountable who are responsible for continuing to pick these coaches ... try going in a different direction.” [19:54]
• Coaching Realities:
  Ochocinco laughs at the idea an “outsider” could coach LSU. Both dismiss the possibility of themselves coaching:
  “Everybody knows I want no part of coaching. I don't have the patience.” —Chad [21:14]
  “I continue to say this ... because I had a dream about it, okay? ... He told me ‘I need you to relay this message to him on the platform.’”
  —Shannon playfully pretending to have a divine coaching mandate for Chad [23:29]
• Big Contracts Debate:
  Coaches get mega 10-year deals—Ochocinco calls for more accountability:
  “You don’t have to give a coach a 10-year contract. Give him four or five [years].” [25:00]
  “If they go, they go. They weren’t meant to be there anyway.” [25:19]
• Who replaces Kelly at LSU? Both hosts say Marcus Freeman (Notre Dame) would get three offers before giving up. [26:36]
• Coaches and Expectations: “When you make that big money … big expectations.” [28:25]
• Reality Check: “It’s not guaranteed that you’re gonna win a Natty ... All you can do is hope.” [29:10]

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The Business and Mindset of Modern Pro Sports

The Bengals and Fan Loyalty

[29:47 – 42:14]

• Cincy fan calls to cancel season tickets after frustration with management:
  “I was asked if I only wanted to be a season ticket holder when we go to the playoffs ... just being emotional for losing to the Jets.” [29:47]
• Shannon is skeptical about the authenticity of the interaction:
  “That doesn't even sound real ... That sounds damn near made up.” [36:03]
• Debate over the Bengals’ management style and track record:
  “We’ve done a phenomenal job scouting...” —Shannon [39:08]
  “How many division titles have you guys won?” —Ochocinco challenges [39:47]

Jerry Jones’ Comments: Money Over Winning?

[43:39 – 47:55]

• Controversy as Jerry Jones admits his natural gas business is more of a priority than fixing the Cowboys’ defense:
  “There's $100 billion present value with natural gas out there. That's why I'm talking to you rather than trying to fix our defense.” —paraphrased [43:46]
• Hosts’ Reaction:
  “If a player said, ‘I don’t care nothing about winning, I care about this $200 million,’ what would the fans say?” —Chad [44:40]
  “There’s no consequences ... He’s the epitome of doing things his way.” —Shannon on Jerry [47:07]
• Money changing the game: Owners make hundreds of millions annually, irrespective of wins.

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Icewear Vezzo x Nightcap: Hustle, Hip-Hop, and Redemption

[48:15 – 60:47]

• Detroit rapper Icewear Vezzo discusses his new EP “Purple Passion” (produced by June James), his journey from hustling to legit business, and local community work.
  • On hustling in many ways:
    “We don’t never tell no man or woman not to go get no money ... I lived how I lived my life, it’s my life ... Ain't nobody taking care of my family but me.” [49:06]
  • On Gucci Mane’s ‘pods=failed rappers’ comment: Rejects it completely:
    “We smartened up, we got wiser, and we saw another lane ... It don't mean nobody fell off.” [49:39]
  • Fast Output: Cut his current project in about two weeks, with songs often completed in 15–30 minutes when inspiration hits. [51:28]
  • Community business: Owns a juice bar in Detroit with his family; only invests in businesses he “has a connection to.”
  • Lessons from mistakes:
    “I bought it with the wrong kind of [money]... bought it just to say I got a restaurant ... it crumbled. ... When I do businesses for the wrong reasons … it never worked.” [54:41]
  • On mixing business and friends: “Absolutely, I lost a lot of friends because of that ... I'm hard-headed, so I keep trying, you know.” [58:55]
• Detroit Lions Super Bowl Hopes:
  “Without a doubt. We winning. We got this.” —Vezzo [59:17]
  Shannon adds, “Detroit is very, very good ... If they stay healthy, they go to the chip.” [61:23]

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Mayweather vs Pacquiao II? Boxer Comebacks and TV's Future

[62:40 – 65:55]

• Rumors swirl: Mayweather and Pacquiao in talks for a 2026 rematch, likely on Netflix, after previous record pay-per-view bout.
• Hosts’ Take:
  “Any version of Floyd being back in the ring and actually fighting someone like Manny Pacquiao ... is going to be exciting.” —Shannon [63:39] “If it’s not an exhibition and it goes against the record ... Floyd ain’t losing that zero.” [65:27] “You’re gonna make that kind of money – where else you gonna make $20, $30 million?” —Chad [65:04]
• Trends: Netflix possibly moving into more live sports—including NFL packages. [65:55]

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NBA Hot Takes, Viewer Questions, and Banter

[66:54 – End]

• NBA fantasy picks and banter about recent big statlines.
• NFL Q&A: The hosts spar over team records, Lamar Jackson's path to statue-worthy greatness, and wild hypothetical trades.
• Shannon on Lamar statue:
  “If Lamar gets a trophy and ... he gets a statue ... at Boynton Beach High School. They better put a goddamn statue of Lamar Jackson at Miami International Airport.” [73:06]
• AJ Brown & Philly debates:
  “See what I mean? Now you see why he complained about getting the ball ... AJ Brown ain't no goddamn star because of his lack of production.” —Shannon [75:05]
• On wealth, ambition, and the billionaire owner's mindset:
  “Once you get one billion, what’re you trying to do, Ocho? You get two. If you get two, you’re trying to get four.” [78:24] “If I had $500 million, I’ll tell you where you can find me. On the island.” —Shannon [79:19]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On patience and opportunity in the NFL:
  “I just want an opportunity ... 30 or 31 other teams other than the Chargers — and I love to be with the Chargers, but if it doesn't work out ... maybe it works out somewhere else.” —Kamani Vidal [07:49]
• On not trusting the mainstream news:
  “I turned off news altogether.” —Shannon Sharpe [00:00, 17:41, 35:19]
• On hustling and finding new lanes:
  “I don't care if I got a 100 hustles … we gonna get money. I might start selling T-shirts. Ain't nothing stopping this, man.” —Icewear Vezzo [50:36]
• On Jerry Jones’ priorities:
  “Jerry don't care about winning. Jerry care about making money because Jerry can make money without winning.” —Chad Ochocinco [43:55]
• On coaching and legacy:
  “Imagine, you bring another Natty to ... you would be a legend, boy.” —Shannon to Chad [22:44]
• On exhibition boxing:
  “Mayweather is still a draw no matter what you say.” —Shannon [65:04]
• Advice to struggling athletes/fans:
  “You didn't put your head down ... know what I'm capable of doing.” —Ochocinco [13:55]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Kamani Vidal NFL journey & motivation: [03:18 – 14:26]
• LSU, Brian Kelly drama, and college football politics: [17:41 – 29:40]
• Bengals, fandom, and management debate: [29:47 – 42:14]
• Jerry Jones, Cowboys, and owner priorities: [43:39 – 47:55]
• Icewear Vezzo interview & hustle mentalities: [48:15 – 60:47]
• Detroit Lions Super Bowl hopes: [59:09 – 61:23]
• Mayweather x Pacquiao 2 rumors: [62:40 – 65:55]
• NBA, NFL banter, and fan questions: [66:54 – End]

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Tone and Style

Relentlessly playful, direct, and honest—warts and all. The banter is barbershop-real, never sanitized, with moments of deep mutual respect, tough love, and non-stop ribbing between friends.

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Concluding Thoughts

If you want a dose of sports wisdom, business hustle, locker-room humor, and quick culture takes—all grounded by real stories of perseverance—this Nightcap is a must-listen. From navigating the politics of college football and managing fan loyalty, to lessons in business (and friendship) from Icewear Vezzo, and a forward-looking peek at how entertainment and pro sports are colliding, Shannon, Ochocinco, and their crew hit on all cylinders.

For more, be sure to check out the full conversation, follow Shay Shay Media, and look up new music from Icewear Vezzo.

Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

I turned off news altogether.

[Colin Cowherd]

I hate to say it, but I.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don'T trust much of anything.

[Commercial Announcer 1]

It's the rage bait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We got clear facts.

[Commercial Announcer 1]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, okay, we got a special guest joining us to write. We got Commodity Vidal joining us out of Marietta High School with Detroit, drafted in the sixth round of the 2024 draft. Kamani, how you doing, bro?

[Kamani Vidal]

I'm good.

[Vizzle]

How about you?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm doing great, man. Hey, hold on. Troy DeMarcus. Lawrence DeMarcus. Well, with Detroit.

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, yeah, he did.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y'. All. Y' all got. Y' all got a little program down there, doing a little something out of there?

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, yeah, man.

[Vizzle]

We got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got a little.

[Vizzle]

Little.

[Kamani Vidal]

We got a little history. We got a little.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Marietta High School. Is that the name of the high school you didn't go to? Wheeler. You went to Marietta High, right?

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, Marietta.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Y' all got a good little program down there?

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, we do. We've had some good players come from there. I mean, when I was there, we. I mean, we were ranked, like. I can't remember exactly the ranking we had, but we were. I mean, we were up there with, you know, St. John Bosco and all them.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, okay. Okay. USA Today top 25.

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Max preps.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, so, okay, you get drafted in the sixth round, 2024 draft, and obviously, you know, Jim. I mean, John. Jim Harbaugh, he loves to run the football, but. But, you know, you see, they're like, damn. They went and got a number one draft pick that was with the Steelers. What. What is that gonna do for me? What's your mindset coming into this season?

[Kamani Vidal]

Just to prove myself, you know, they was gonna make whatever decision they felt like the team needed to make. So, you know, I was just trying to just prove them. I mean, you know, kind of like prove them wrong, honestly. You know, it's. Use that as motivation for myself.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And they took a. Hold on. And they took a. They took a running back in the first round. You like. Hold on, dude. Y'. All. Y' all must have forgot. I'm.

[Vizzle]

Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Come on, bro. Y. Oh, so Y' all go just disrespect me. Y' all gonna take a. Y' all gonna take a running back in the first round and you gonna sign a running back in free agency. And I'm sitting up here, okay? I'm gonna show y' all I got something for y'.

[Kamani Vidal]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ass.

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, I mean, not. Not only that. I mean, they. They coming at the end, the beginning of the season and I was on practice squad, so, I mean, that was. That was even more motivation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What has your experience been like, you know, so far? Obviously you got drafted in 2024. Regardless of who they brought in, regards. Oh, come on. Hey, listen, regardless of who they brought in, how's your experience in NFL been so far?

[Kamani Vidal]

Oh, it's been.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's.

[Kamani Vidal]

It's been great. Honestly, I. I love the NFL. You know, it's highly competitive. You know, guys earn their opportunities and, and, and they. They run away with it. That's what I'm trying to do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bad. Oo he got. He got. Hey, don't worry. I'm sorry, Kamani. I mean, he got. He got FY equipment. He tried his best, though. He tried his best.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ak, I. I bought a new camera, new laptop. I'm really not. I'm not. I'm not tech savvy with this stuff. And, you know, my camera wasn't registered.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We can tell computer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I got a cam. A cam link, and this elgato thing, and all I know how to do is play FIFA. That's. That's it. That's all. So I apologize for that, but that's it.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Go ahead.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Why. Why have you been able to have such success? You mentioned you played, you know, you got an opportunity, got drafted in 24, and you come in and then, you know, take a running back in the first round, they sign a running back that was a first round draft pick. They cut you. You're on the practice squad. How have you been able to keep focus? Because a lot of people will get. Man, damn. I ain't gonna get a chance to play. They took a running back in the first round. They brought a free agent running back in here. Man, I ain't gonna never get an opportunity to really show what I can do by getting touches. And it worked out. Cause guess what? Unfortunately not. You didn't wish this on anybody running back. Both of the running backs go down. This is your opportunity to show you know what, we got a good one. We. Hey, we're not gonna lose. We're not gonna lose a step.

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, I Mean, I. I knew there was a chance that even if, you know, I wasn't able to get on the. The active roster at the charges, that, you know, a team can still claim you. So, you know, I was just working off of hope, off of that. You know, just like using. Not playing the games to my advantage, you know, like, just almost like using that. Almost like a mini. Like a. Like a little mini off season almost.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes. And I love that. I love that you said that because you're like, man, I just want an opportunity. I'm just gonna go out there and work hard, and maybe somebody need a running back and they come get your boy. But my opportunity, you know, the preseason run hard. When given an opportunity, make sure I go through my assignment. They throw me the ball, I catch it. If it's time for me to pass block, I pass block. And when they hand me that rock, I'm gonna tote it. Because you never know. 30 or 31 other teams other than the Chargers. And I love to be with the charges, but if it doesn't work out for the charges, hey, guess what? Maybe it works out somewhere else.

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We got. We got a. You got a very, very interesting great uncle, the Hammer. And Hank. Hank Aaron is your great uncle. I mean, I mean, did you ever take him to school for show and tell? Come on. Come on.

[Kamani Vidal]

Nah, I mean, nah, nah. But shoot, by that time, I mean, he was. He had hip surgery and, you know, he was, you know, but I mean, it was a cool little icebreaker to have, like, as a, you know, you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Know who my uncle is. I bet you don't know who my great eyes.

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, Two. Two truths in the lie. Always, always catch them.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who would you say? You, Patty. Who do you say? Would you pattern your game after?

[Kamani Vidal]

I'll probably say, like, kind of like Josh Jacobs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, okay, I can see that. I can see that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a good one, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You call me my parlay, too.

[Kamani Vidal]

How I do that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because you weren't supposed to get 55 yards. You got damn near 130.

[Kamani Vidal]

Hey, man, that's.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's the week before. The week I based it on the week before. I said, man, he ain't getting no cares. I said, well, he ain't gonna do nothing the next thing I know. And then you had like 20 yards. They had him. They had you bottled up. Next thing you know, you break off a 40 yarder. They go, my parlay. And then you like, I ain't satisfied with that. I'm gonna get me a couple of more 10, 15 yarders.

[Kamani Vidal]

Hey, I said hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. That's.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That.

[Kamani Vidal]

Hey, that's not. I tell you what, that's on. That's on you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The next part, they come up with you. Hey, I'm taking over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, Kate, what else you like to do outside of football, man? Every. Everybody has their passions. Obviously, our job is football and. And once this football season. But what do you have to get when. When. When you want to reset, when you want to recharge mentally and get away from the game of football? What is it that you like to do that you're passionate about?

[Kamani Vidal]

I like to. I have a dog. I like to play with him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What kind?

[Kamani Vidal]

He like.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, there you go, right there.

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, yeah, he like a. Like a lab mix. Okay, There you go, right there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He said, man, look here, let me get some. Let me get some time, man. Hey, yeah, somebody might have a female dog out here, want to holler at you, boy. But.

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, no, I like. I like to play with him. I like to read, play some video games.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, what. What video games you play?

[Kamani Vidal]

I don't play FIFA. I'm gonna go ahead and tell you that.

[Colin Cowherd]

No.

[Commercial Announcer 3]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When I'm.

[Kamani Vidal]

When I'm. When I'm. When I'm away from football, I gotta get away.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Completely.

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I. I play like the little, like the single player games. Like.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You play cod? Yeah.

[Kamani Vidal]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, I play. I play cod. I play battlefield. I know, I know. Yeah. Yeah, it is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm gonna have to start playing. I'm have to. What's your. What's your. What's your line name? I'm gonna have to start playing. Yeah, your tag. What's your tag?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Stop playing, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna make sure I. Make sure I get him. He done call me my parlor. He got. Hey, his character got it down card. Okay? I gotta get my. Get back. You gonna be my first victim. Give me. Give me your. Give me your top. Give me your top five. Give me your top five running backs.

[Kamani Vidal]

Shoot. Probably say. I mean, Jonathan Taylor. I mean, he balling right now. Gibbs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I like.

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, Bijan.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, it's a lot of good backs.

[Kamani Vidal]

They gonna clip me on this one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, you got. Hey, bro, look at the list that you gave J.T. bijan. You still got Saquon out there. You still got King Henry. You still got Josh Jacobs. You got James Cook, Aaron Jones. Yeah, you got Gibbs.

[Kamani Vidal]

I gotta put Cook and Christian.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, my cap. Okay. Yeah, see? Yeah, that's a nice Little list there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a good list.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. They gonna clip you because you didn't put Saquon or Dad Henry.

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, I know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I tried. I tried to get y' all in there. I tried to get you in there, King Henry and Quan, but he said no, them. Them his pigs right there. So now that you know you, you, y'. All. Have y'.

[Commercial Announcer 3]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Have y' all had your bye week yet?

[Kamani Vidal]

Nah, not yet.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Have you thought about what you're gonna do on the bye week? Or you just take it a week later? Let me get. Let me get to the bye week and then I'll decide what I'm gonna do right now. And I'm in the thick of it.

[Kamani Vidal]

No. Yeah. Yeah. I'm. I'm. I'm waiting till we get to the bar. I have no idea what we're gonna do. Well, what I'm gonna do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Had you had family come see you play yet? Huh? Have you had family come see you play yet?

[Kamani Vidal]

Yeah, yeah, we actually. I have some family in Miami and we. When we played in Miami.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Kamani Vidal]

They all came out okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't no better feeling than that, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, look. That's unbelievable, man. Best of luck, man. Congratulations. Look, you didn't put your head down. A lot of people would have went into a shell given the circumstances. They draft the running back, sign the free agent running back. You get released, signed to the practice squad, but you didn't hang your head. You're like, well, my opportunity to come. I'm gonna do what I'm supposed to do. I know what I'm capable of doing. So, man, congratulations. Keep your head up. Stay healthy, bro. Stay healthy. And best of luck down the road.

[Kamani Vidal]

Appreciate that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Appreciate it, man. Have a good one. Your camera jumped off again, don't you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You looking right at me.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

I turned off news altogether.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

[Commercial Announcer 1]

It's the rage bait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America. Oh, my. Bad days. After LSU fired football coach Brian Kelly, athletic director Scott Woodward is leaving the university as well the division. The decision comes following remarks from Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry that criticized Woodward's decision making. I can tell you right now, Scott Woodward is not selected the next head coach. Hell, I'll let Donald Trump select him before I let him do it. So the board of supervisors is going to come up with the committee that's going to find us a coach. Woodward was the one that hired Kelly in 2021, but after a rather disappointing tenure resulted in the Coach's dismissal on October 26th. LSU owes Kelly approximately 54 million. Landry reportedly had had a hand. Oh, a hand. Of LSU's firing of Kelly. Well, damn. And has appointed nine of the 18 board members supervisors. Damn. That will apparently lead the search for a new coach. Baton Rood native, a Louisiana grad, had been the Tigers athletic director since 2019, when they won the national championship. In his tenure, he hired Kim Mulkey as the basketball coach, won a national championship, and baseball coach Jay Johnson won a national championship. Uh, obviously we know in 2019 that was one of the greatest teams ever assembled with Joe Burrow and Jetta and Chase. Clyde Edwards a lair. They had Red Fad Moss, they had Patrick Queen. I think Stingley was on that staff. Grant Del Pitt. So we know what LSU represented in 2019. But unfortunately, when you spend that kind of money and you're not getting the results that you hope to get, you got to go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, listen, listen, I, there's a committee of people who pick and choose who they, who, who you want to have to be the coach. Obviously, always look for someone with experience that is coached in the past that has had success wherever they've been. But the only people, only person we hear about is the coach, the coach that gets fired and his staff, and his staff and everyone else having to uproot. But they also need to hold the people accountable who are responsible for continuing to pick these coaches. And they keep getting fired, then they keep getting fired. To me, I think they should try going in a different direction. I think they should try going in a different direction.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What if it, what direction is that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, try, try going with someone that knows the game of football, that might not have any coach experience, that wants to coach.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That ain't happening. Not at no major university.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, I, I, I understand. But hey, so you, you, you, you Want one?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cuz? Think. Think about the budget. That. Think about all the programs you got as an as. As a. As a head coach at. At the. In the sec.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, think about it.

[Vizzle]

At lsu.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Think about it. You heard what you just said. Head coach.

[Chad Ochocinco]

SEC.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Head coach.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shannon. Elofius Sharp.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, sir. Everybody knows I want no party coaching. I don't have the patience. I barely had patience.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We talk about lsu, you is the head coach in the boot. Think about the discipline, the structure that you provide to that university. Something they. Man, them kids would love that, man. And I could. Come on, I could be. Hey, I could be your assistant.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, I like this right here. I got something. We got something in the woodwork. We got something working right now that don't involve coaching. Trust me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be busy. You gonna be busy. We don't have time to be coaching.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, you.

[Colin Cowherd]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have to stop when. When doors open and you need to see what. You need to let God use you. You need to let God use you sometimes because, like, it's like the signs are there, but you're not really seeing the signs, and the opportunities are there, and you really not seeing it because you're not allowing yourself to be used by the Lord. There's a reason. There's a reason why that job opportunity open and it's calling your name.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, Penn State open, too. There are a lot of jobs. Florida open. The FSU is going to probably be open. There's going to be a lot of jobs open. Unfortunately for me, my hat ain't going into the ring. I don't want to coach. I've never wanted to go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't have the. I. I know me, Ocho. I'm too. I'm too obsessive. I'm too structured. I'm too disciplined.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's exactly what those students need. Imagine, you bring another Natty to. Well, you. Well, you. Man, you would be a legend, boy. I mean, you'll be a.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, I'm good. I don't want it. I don't want it. Hey, call Coach Prime. Coach Prime. Coach Prime. Melissa. But I got. I got. I got nothing to offer for a coach. Individuals call and ask me, how should they handle certain situations? I'll give you the best advice I possibly can, but as far as coaching and getting out, nah, I don't got that kind of time. I did everything I could when I played. And I know what it takes to be a coach because I've seen coaches and when it's done right and it's done at a high level. I ain't got 100 hours a week to put in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, listen, if you wanted to, you would, because you had a hundred. You had 100 hours, you know, to put in the football. You had 100 hours to put into what you loved and what you like to do because you understood it was going to be able to provide for you and your family and for those that sacrifice you for you to get to that point. Now, I'm only. I continue to say this over and over, and I'm harping on it the way I am because. Because I had a dream about it, okay? And it was on my heart. And that's why I met. This is my second time mentioning it now because I, I got like, I'm sleeping. And he told me, listen, I need you to relay this message to him on the platform because obviously I'm not getting through to him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I would consider if your camera stopped running out, but since it had. Won't do that. No coaching for me. Come back. Look, I understand. Coaching ain't for everybody, right? I understand. Everybody can, you know, twirl a whistle or blow a whistle, and a lot of guys understand X's and those, but I, I just. That ain't. That a. That ain't. That ain't my heart on Joe. I ain't going to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, my bad, my bad.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But it's. I mean, at some point in time, they fit to start putting all these buys in there. Stop giving all these coaches these damn 10 year contracts. Whatever happened to four or five year contracts, Ocho?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Make it three.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, you, you put a coach out there. 10 million. I think Kirby bought us 118 million. What? Not that Kirby's going anywhere, but I'm just saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not going nowhere.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ah, nah, man. I mean, you don't have to give a coach a 10 year contract. You don't give him four or five years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the 10 year. I think the 10 year, 10 year contract, it just looked good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, it's to try to deter them from going up from going elsewhere.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

To do it with Brian Kelly. Jump. You know how he left Cincinnati and went to Notre Dame and how he left Notre Dame and went to lsu, they're trying to deter guys from doing that. So he's like, look, we're gonna give you long term security. We're gonna give you, you know, a hundred million dollar deal over 10 years. Okay, I'll stay, but. Nah, man, y' all gotta stop doing that if they go, they go. They weren't meant to be there anyway. But, I mean, look, at some point in time. Look, I've heard a lot of people over the last. Since this Friday has come out. I'm just trying to find the one person that's gonna say something good about Brian Kelly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't nobody said nothing about him yet.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Just one. Just one person. One former player. Just somebody said, man, he was damn. Anyway, I just want chat. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe. Hey, maybe in Louisiana there are a lot of kids that's coming out and speaking up on his behalf. But I damn sure haven't seen any on my timeline. And I've been trying to scour it, so I don't really know what's going on. He didn't strike me as an LSU type of a guy, but, you know, he said he wanted to go compete for a national championship. That's what he said. All I know is, is that he hadn't been close. And Notre Dame competed for a national championship last year, and they're in the process of doing it again this year. That's what I know. Now, could they go back and Marcus Freeman. If I'm. If I'm at any university, Marcus Freeman's gonna have to tell me no three times. And then I'm gonna call his wife. I'm gonna get his wife number. This is the athletic director, lsu. We got a lot of money on the table for your husband. You really like it down here. If you can just get him down here, we'd love to show you around. We know you have five or six kids, but there are a lot. There are a lot of great private schools around here, you know. Hey, everything's gonna be taken care of. I'm gonna make Marcus Freeman tell me no three times.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just three.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He gonna have to tell me no three times and change his number.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me tell you something.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cause I'm gonna call him back. I bet you don't know who this is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, anytime you have to ask them more than two times, that's damn near begging, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, what TLC say? I ain't too proud to beg. You talking about one of the great coach you got. You, you, you got. Look, there ain't no more Nick Sabans out there. Kirby ain't leaving Georgia. Hey, I mean, could Lane possibly leave Ole Miss? I don't know. I think Elaine probably would only leave for Alabama or something like that, but seemed like Kaylin DeBoer after what he's turned this season around, he's not going anywhere. But Marcus Freeman is my first call for every job, and he gonna tell me no three times.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you see. You see, Mr. Franklin. Oh, come on. You see, Mr. Franklin just got. Is going over to Virginia Tech. Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, James Franklin. I did, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mr. Franklin is getting ready to sign a deal over. Over at Virginia Tech. Just. Just that fast.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but their expectations. I mean, when you make that big money, Ocho, you know what comes along with big money? Big expectations. I mean, I would. Man, they're not paying you no 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, $13 million to do what? Not winning it. Not win a conference title, not compete for a national title.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you also have to understand this. Those that are in position of power.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's not. That's not been confirmed, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, it hasn't?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That must have been a fake tweet then. But listen, what I want to say. The people in positions of power that pay these coaches this money, even though you pay that kind of money, you know, it's not guaranteed that you're gonna win a Natty. It's not guaranteed true. It's not guaranteed that you. You hope for. Know, to.

[Colin Cowherd]

To. To.

[Shannon Sharpe]

To get there and get the right. Get the right players, you know, through nil to give you a better chance of reaching it. But it doesn't guarantee nothing. I'm gonna just. I'm gonna just switch to my. My laptop camera.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, it's no. Ain't no guarantee, but, you know, with. With those facilities that they got. LSU, they just renovated, they probably spent 20, 30 million dollars renovating the facility. Yeah. @ bro.

[Kamani Vidal]

Bad.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Nah, they're not finna. They're not gonna let you do that. You got. You got. You got to produce.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You said you was going there. The facilities, the. The money that they invested in you. The invest. The. Invested in the coaches, the money that they invested in the nil. The upgrade to the facilities, and that's not good enough. What the hell we looking at? Oh, Lord. Ocho, whatcha. Ocho. After the Bengals lost to the Jets, a season ticket holder called to cancel his tickets for the next season. Here's how it went. If you cancel your season tickets, how it go? I called today to cancel my bingo season tickets for next year, and the whole conversation felt super guilty, trippy and argumentative. I was asked if I only wanted to be a season ticket holder when we go to the playoffs, and I'm just. Just being emotional for losing to the Jets. They asked me. They asked why was I unhappy. So I said that I'm frustrated with the front office, mainly the lack of real scouting department, bad drafts and how the prices keep going up steeply every year since I joined. Instead of just taking the feedback they got defensive and said things like the front office who drafted Joe Burrow and T. Higgins. The last thing being asked to me if I wanted to cheap tickets or pay Jamar Chase and T. Higgins.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what y' all doing now, Ocho? That's what y' all doing? Trying to make the people feel guilty. Y' all being argumentative. Ocho. Is that really what y' all doing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You really think that's real?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If the Bengals feed okay, pull up the Bengals feed on your thing on your Twitter. Let's see what it look like when.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You say Bingles feed. What Twitter? Pull it up like the actual team.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bingles Reddit. The Bingles Reddit account.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what that is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got a Reddit account?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I just got Twitter and Instagram and TikTok.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

I turned off news altogether.

[Colin Cowherd]

I hate to say it, but I.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don'T trust much of anything.

[Commercial Announcer 1]

It's the rage bait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America. Read, read. You pull up Reddit?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't have Reddit.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Huh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you think that's real?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I doubt it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I don't. I don't have a Reddit account. But I, I, that doesn't even sound real because those, I mean, the people, I don't think they even say. They wouldn't say anything like that. That's unprofessional.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They would.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, you know, that's not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We dealing with the Bengals, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no, listen, even if you're dealing with the Bengals, people wouldn't. They wouldn't say anything like that to, to a person that has season tickets. Not, not like that. That's just that. That sound. No disrespect. It sounds damn near made up. I'm just being honest. I'm not taking up for the Bangles. I'm not taking up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Pull up. Let's see what it. Look, I'm just saying on the Bing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That'll sound.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, I mean, the kid in the. They been upset lately.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I mean, I mean the b. Listen, honestly, the fans have a right to be. Be upset. Hell, I'm upset for sure.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, they were listening to you, cuz you said they were gonna win.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, we, well, we were gonna win if Joe stayed upright and stayed healthy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no, no, no. Even after the fact. Because you said Brother Browning. That's what. Hey, Chat. Didn't he refer to him as Brother Browning?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Brother Browning, Brother Brown.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, but it. Okay, it didn't work. We got Joe Flacco. Look what happened. Joe. Hey, Joe gonna do what he got to do. Joe coming in this week, though. They thought Joe wasn't gonna play because they shoulder. Joe gonna play.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep. I'm looking at the official Bingo's Reddit account. Yep. It real? Yep. I'm sorry, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. So you think the Bengals posted that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, he posted it. The ticket holder posted it, but the response was from the Bingo's official account.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, that's why.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, why would I. Why would I repose something that's gonna make me look bad?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's probably AI.

[Commercial Announcer 3]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That ain't real. Because if it was real, by this time, the Bangles would have came out and apologized to the person and it would have been every man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

When you ever know Mac Brown to apologize. You played for the man. When was he ever apologized?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't have people that work for work for your company, work for your business talking to season ticket holders like that. That's unprofessional.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, all the season ticket holders are saying the same thing. My husband called and had a very similar experience. Oh, I get it. You supposed to do you. That's the stance. You're supposed to take.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It don't even sound real. I'm just saying.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It does. It sounds real. Why y' all don't have a scouting department, then? Is that real, Tobin? Why y' all don't have a staff scouting department like all 31 other teams and. Is that what I just said?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We've done a. Hey, you heard me. We've done a phenomenal job scouting. Hey, every single year, what we got at the receiving position before, look where you. Before me, after me, look where you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Pick quarterbacks, look where you're picking.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whose fault is that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You. That's your fault. That's basically.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a good thing. Because if we weren't picking, we were picking. We wouldn't have Jamar Chase, or we wouldn't be able to get T. Higgins, or we wouldn't have been able to get Joe Burrow, or you wouldn't be able to get me, you wouldn't be able to get Carson Palmer, you wouldn't be able to get A.J.

[Commercial Announcer 3]

Green.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All that y' all got. Now, tell me, how many division titles have you guys won with all the players that you name?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, seven.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Since you were drafted there, how many division titles have the Bengals won?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, division titles. Seven. Because I won two.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You won one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Two.

[Chad Ochocinco]

One. And you got. And. And Carson got hurt the first play of the playoff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. That's. That's it. My bad.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't think y' all might have won seven division titles since then. Existence of the beans.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. I don't like you taking shots at my team because I don't take shots at yours. How many. How many division titles The Broncos won? Six.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They won six division titles since 1991.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said seven. I. I missed. I missed it by one. I told.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No. I said, since you. Some of those Boomer Assassin them. Jeff Blake, number one, not you. How many have they won since 2001? Since 2001 or 91? Oh, yeah. Oh. Andy Dalton and the Red Rifle. They won in 21 and 22.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yes. Y' all won six. Y' all won six titles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I told you, Ocho. I said five. He said seven. We split in the middle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, I knew. I knew what it was. I was just off by one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I was off by one. You do realize five is one away from six?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying you were trying to make it seem like we were.

[Commercial Announcer 3]

So sorry.

[Chad Ochocinco]

First of all. First of all, you were over, so you'd have got. I would have won because I Was under you, was over. You ever played the prices? Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's the one where you spend. When you spin the wheel, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I like that game. Yeah, no, I'm thinking about Wheel of Fortune.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wheel of Fortune, you spin the wheel around the price of Right. Also have one where you try to get closest to a dollar without going over.

[Kamani Vidal]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I got you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. I grew up on the. The Wheel of Fortune. Wheel of Fortune used to let you buy prizes. You could buy prizes. They have bedroom suit, they have living room furniture. They have patio furniture. So you could buy it. And once you buy it, once you buy a prize, people don't realize this. Pat Sajak was not the original host of Wheel of Fortune. Chuck Will.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He got into a contract dispute with. So people just think. And he was also. Chuck Willer was also on the Newlywed Game. We game shows used to come. Game shows were where it was. There was no game show network. So all the stuff, you know, Price is Right, Wheel of Fortune, all that other stuff. The Dating Game, to tell the truth. Is he. Is he up? We could go. Okay. I would go. Go to his next topic that you want to go with. Dakota just. Dak Prescott said he can sympathize with fans who are frustrated about the recent Jerry Jones quote in the Wall Street Journal. Jerry said there's $100 billion present value with natural gas out there. That's why I'm talking to you on the telephone rather than trying to fix our defense with the Dallas Cowboys. Dak responded today. I don't know the full context of it. I do know a piece of it. But being a fan and you just hear or just read that. Yeah, of course. That can definitely be frustrating. Ocho. Jerry said he got big. He said he think about the 100 million, 100 billion. So now y' all can see. Y' all can stop talking about Shannon hating on the Cowboys. Jerry don't care about winning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, he never did.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Jerry never cared about winning.

[Vizzle]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So now he told you what on his mind. He just told you he laid it out. So can y' all stop? Oh, Jared, no. Jerry don't care about winning. Jerry care about making money because Jerry can make money without winning.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Of course Dag is frustrated. Dax said I'm going here busting my butt and you don't care about that. You told me you care about this hundred billion dollar natural gas thing that you could possibly get your seat your teeth into.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just like the players, huh? Just like the players. The player. Hey, the players by day. What, what's the, what's the bottom line to make as much. What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, something for, hey, the owner is the same way.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But let me ask you a question. If a player, if a player said, man, I don't care nothing about no winning. I care about this, I care about this $200 million that I got, what would the fans say?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Snap. They go crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, then Jerry Jones just said the exact same thing. He said, I'm concerned about this 100 billion and ain't worried about fixing no defense. That's what he said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He, he wasn't worried about the past 30 years.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hell no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jerry, run that thing. Hey, he, when, when you, when you talk about somebody that's gonna do things his way no matter what, nobody say, boy, he is the, he's the epitome of doing just that. And he don't care.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Dax said, but in that sense, I would say the guys never really lied about who or what he's trying to do. Hopefully he was talking about it in a particular moment, maybe in those five minutes. It was, he was alluding having a chance at a hundred billion dollar opportunity. I think he might, might take five minutes as well to answer and call. Hopefully that's a, that's what he means. But I can see how it can be funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, obviously that is. Dak is face of the franchise. He has to say all the right things, but that in the back of his mind, he knows what it is. Other football.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Anyone else that heard these comments, they know what it is. Jerry Jones has showed us what the bottom line is with him and what it's always been. He's doing, doing just enough to keep you happy, doing just enough to keep you interested. And every year, damn, he fooled us again.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn, if I'm just, I, I just wonder what the fan base would say if a player said the exact same thing. Let's just say Ocho, he had an opportunity to make 200, $300 million off the field. He said, man, I ain't really worried about no offense, man, I got an opportunity to make $350 million off the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Field here we get word they're killing, they're killing. But listen, you know, you, when you're in certain positions of power, you know, you play by a different set of rules, things Jerry can say and get away with, even though people were scrutinizing for it. And there's certain things that players just can't do. You just can't do it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

True.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't do It. It's all about being self aware. It's all about self awareness.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There ain't no consequences.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, not for him. Absolutely not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who the hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Speaking of concept, who gonna do something?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I'm just saying. I mean. But look. But the fans gonna still go because, oh, we got a chance to win. Not with that guy. You don't care about winning. What makes Jerry doesn't care about winning? Because each owner gonna get a probably check cut this March for 400 million. It was four, it was three plus last year. It's gonna be 400 this year. Now that's just the. That's just from the TV deals. That ain't local. That's not local advertising. That's not local tv. That's not parking. That's not concession. That's not. He has his own merchandise deal. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Jerry got that fitting.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Jerry makes double. What. Whatever you think the. The. The. The most profitable as far as merchandising, all that stuff is Jerry does double. And the only time Jerry sees the subo when he's in attendance.

[Kamani Vidal]

That's crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ocho, we got a special guest joining us. I swear. Vzo, bro, what's going on?

[Vizzle]

What up though? What it do, big homie? How you feeling, man?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm good, I'm good. EP dropped today. Purple Passion. Tell us a little about the song. Tell us a little bit about the. About the ep.

[Vizzle]

Oh, man, you know, so you know, I'm from Detroit, I'm from six Mile from the east side. You know, we got our own sound in Detroit.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You heard?

[Vizzle]

And I pushed. I created a whole new sound for the world to rock with. So I just kind of wanted to switch it up on this joint, you know what I'm saying? And just had some fun with it. My homie June James from Houston, he produced the whole tape. So brunch is like, bro, let's talk that Detroit, you know what I'm saying? On these down south beats and see what we do. You heard? So yeah, we put it together, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on. Gucci, man say once a rapper becomes a podcaster, it means they fell off. You have your own podcast, bro. You ain't you. You ain't falling off, are you?

[Vizzle]

Yeah, no, I ain't falling. Now I gotta take my glass off of this. First off, I rock with Gucci, you know, I got real love for Gucci, you heard? Like, just for everything he did for the culture, homes really motivated me, you know what I'm saying? But where I'm from, I'm from the trenches, bro. We don't never tell no man or woman to not go get no money. You heard? So it ain't. It ain't no one way to chase a billion dollars, $100 million if you chasing $50. You don't got to do just one way. It ain't no one way to it. I lived how I live my life is my life.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I am.

[Vizzle]

I am. I'm not what I used to be, but I am what I am now, you heard? And that can't be taken away from me. So, no, I don't mean nobody fell off. I mean, we smartened up, we got wiser, and we saved another lane, we sent another avenue, and we decided to take advantage of that. You know what I'm saying? I would never my life, tell nobody to not go get no money. Ain't nobody, ain't nobody bigger than the program to say what's what. You know, what, what, what. What bag is cool and what bag ain't cool. I used to sell drugs, brother. You know what I'm saying? I ain't proud of that. And I don't got to do that no more because brothers like y' all created a lane for people to speak their mind and. Yeah, you know, have open discussions and respectful disagreements and debate and just talking, just kicking it vibe for the whole world to. To be able to do that. So, you know, no, when guys like y' all open that door, man, we gonna walk right. We gonna walk right through it. Gucci motivated me to want to write a book, too. You know, I grew up with guys. I got homies in my circle that are looking. You better look at that like we writing a diary, you know what I'm saying?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right?

[Vizzle]

Ain't no way. It ain't no way for look at anything that you do and feel away about it. It ain't about that. Ain't nobody taking care of my family but me. I put a roof over my wife, head over my children, and I'm gonna continue to do that. I don't give a. If I got a 100 hustles, we gonna get money. I might start selling T shirts. Ain't nothing stopping this, man. Listen to everybody listen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Get that paper. Get that. Get that paper.

[Vizzle]

Don't let nobody tell you what's cool and what ain't cool when it. When it come to get money. Only money that ain't cool is drug money. We know that on nw so we ain't doing that. You know what I'm saying?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I like that.

[Vizzle]

But shout out to Gucci and I got real.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I swear, I swear. When it, when it came to putting this project together, man, I listened to it earlier, man. Some of the song, you know, Tesla, heavy metal, high fashion, you know, having my way. How long does it take for you to finish a project? You know, a year, six months? Like what's the process?

[Vizzle]

So like it, it'll take me, like I say and not, not they over exaggerated, try to sound too sweet about the shit. But literally like two weeks, so. But it been times where it'll take me two weeks to do one song or four, five hours to do one song. And when I find a pocket and when I find a bag where I can go in the studio, hear a beat and record a song in 15 to 20 minutes, then I know I'm having fun with this shit. I know there's something I need to continue doing. And this was working. So every song that I put on that project was songs that I made within the span of 15 to 30 minutes. You know what I'm saying? And again, I got songs that took me way longer to make, but I never really put those songs out. You heard about two weeks.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's interesting you say that. So let me ask you a question. So how do you. Do you write down on paper or do you need to go in there and hear the beat and then you have an idea of kind of where you go, where you want to go and you let the beat take you in the direction ultimately where you go.

[Vizzle]

Exactly. Because I feel like if I got a right to it, then it ain't really, it ain't really a pocket I need to be in right now. I think the music just talked to you, you know what I'm saying? Okay, it talked to you. You heard. As soon as you hear certain everything just start coming to your mind and you just go and say it. I don't, I don't write, but I don't completely freestyle. Like I say a couple bars, sit, think on it, say another couple bars, pause. And just playing like that, you heard.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let me ask you, how far is. How far is 6 mile from 8 mile? Cuz we know M great Detroit rapper is from eight Mile, you from six miles. So how far apart are you guys?

[Vizzle]

Literally two miles apart.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that's it.

[Vizzle]

Really? Literally, yeah. Two, two miles apart. You know what's crazy? M went to me and M went. He went to Osborne for a minute. That's the same high school I went to. We didn't go at the same time, obviously. And I grew up on Stanford and Bradford. And I believe the house on Eminem first album is the house that he grew up in. That's on Bradford as well. So he claimed 8 mile, but he grew up in my. In my neighborhood as well. And that's how he met Big Proof. And all them guys, they all went to Osborne High School. That's the same school I went to, you heard? In front of Trenches. For real, though, take that away from that white boy, man. One thing about it, he really from. Where you from?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You heard, You. You're really involved. You're really involved in the community. Detroit. You have a local juice bar with your family. How did you let me. You mentioned earlier about the hustles, you know, you. You had a past.

[Vizzle]

It ain't cool to have a juice bar, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You forgot, huh?

[Vizzle]

It ain't cool to have a juice bar. That mean you fell off.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Come on, man. Damn, you dragging it. Hey, I swear, you dragging it down.

[Vizzle]

I'm talking, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How did. How do you decide? Because you mentioned earlier, you had a past you're not proud of. You graduated, you moved on from that. So how do you decide what hustles that you're going to become involved with?

[Vizzle]

It was one point When I was 24 years old, I bought a restaurant, I bought a car wash, and I bought a dispensary at the age of 24. When I bought this shit, for one, I bought it with the wrong kind of. You heard, we ain't got to go there. But I bought it for the wrong reasons. I bought it just to say I got a restaurant.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got legit.

[Vizzle]

Yeah, it wasn't even about legit. It was trying to look cool and flex on the people in my community. Not flex with them, but flex on them. I got it for the wrong reason. It crumbled. And I learned from that first and foremost, you know, that's when I decided ain't no point in me signing on my. All my folks, you know, we gotta lift the community up and shine with them and do more for them so they can have these opportunities, you heard? But, like, right now, what I really learned from that is I don't involve myself in no business that I ain't got that I can't find any type of emotional connection to it or mental connection to it. And every time I do a business that I can find some type of connection to, they win. But when I do businesses for the wrong reasons, like the other that I had prior going to prison, it all. It never worked. So I decided from. From jail. Anything, any business that I do. I want to have some type of connection to it mentally or emotionally. So the juice bar is the final thing I got from my old lady, you heard? So, yeah, that's how I decide. Just having some type of connection to it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You collaborated with the baby Lil baby Kodak Black. So how do. How did. What goes into a collab? So how do you like. Okay, I got an idea that I think this guy would sound good. I got an idea. I think that. So how do you go about picking people who you're going to collab with on your. On your projects?

[Vizzle]

Most of. Well, pretty much all the collaborations I got just like, from relationships that we built, you know what I'm saying? Just moving around with guys, or we linking up and we build for a couple weeks. We might even build for a year, just, you know, get to know each other on. On some type of personal level. Not too personal, but just enough, you know what I'm saying? So the. The songs becoming organic. We either be in the studio, I make some, and they get on it, or, you know, like you say, like, I got a song called up the Skull featuring Little Dirt. Soon as I did that song, everybody in the studio like, bro, you got to put Smirk on it. And I sent it to Smirk. He did the verse, and he sent it right back.

[Kamani Vidal]

You heard?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, is it. Is it difficult when you. When you. When you have a collab and you need a. You need an artist did the. To send their verse in and they take too long?

[Vizzle]

I mean, when it's free, you can't really complain, you know what I'm saying? If some dudes bless me with a free verse, I ain't got no complaints, you know what I mean? But even if I did pay, I understand everybody got stuff going on. It's times that I. I took too long doing a lot of stuff, you know, whether it's for myself, my wife, my kids, my family, or other artists sending them verses. And it don't be nothing, you know, that. That I'm stalling out on. I'm just handling other. And my mind might be occupied on other things, so. So I think it's important that we learn to have patience with each other, you know, as a community, first and foremost. It's just, you know, overall, it's artists and. And co workers. We gotta have patience and, you know, hope for the best. And if somebody don't send a song, all is well, you know, it ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No love lost, right? Wow.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You launched. You launched your own record company. Iced Iced Up Records. How is it, okay, you own the label, but you got a creative side, so you know, you got to create on your own. But then when you hire people, you got a business side, so, you know, friends is one thing, business is another thing, and a creative aspect is something entirely different. How do you do such a great job of balancing all that out?

[Vizzle]

I established that with the people that I do business with that business. Business, friendship is friendship and being an artist is being an artist. I rap as well and I own this label. So it's gonna be times where I gotta focus on myself. But the same type of focus that I put in myself, I'm gonna. I put it into them just as. Just as well. But I think communication is everything, you know, communication is key, you know. So, yeah, just basically establishing that up front, you heard, like, check this out, you my homie or you may not be my homie, Whatever the case is, we handling business. Let's keep it business. Let's do business. And as friends and as homies, this should never mix, be mixed up with each other. And a lot of times it goes south, you know, when you do business with your homies, but sometimes it work, it work well, you heard. But yeah, I think just communicating that up front.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Has it been difficult? Have you lost friends because you mix friendship and business?

[Vizzle]

Absolutely. I lost a lot of friends because of that. Trying to help people, you know, you can't help everybody. I been got that understood. My mama told me that. But I'm hard headed, so I keep trying, you know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So, Detroit, your Lions are looking good. Is this the year the Lions get to the super bowl and potentially win it?

[Vizzle]

Without a doubt. We winning. We got this. Come on, come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, listen, hey, listen. Hey, listen. Y' all boys balling, boy, y' all. Boy ball. I can't even say nothing. When everybody was hurt, y' all still was balling on defense. Offensively, y' all might be the best offense in the league. I mean, y' all might be the best offense in the league. I'm not even gonna lie. This might be the year. This might be the. Honestly, if God damn the quarterback play very well when you get to the playoffs and don't throw all them damn interceptions, I' ma see y' all in San Francisco. I'm gonna see y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[Vizzle]

We going. We're gonna win. We winning too. We gonna win. We going in.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey. Detroit make the Super Bowl. You head. You going?

[Vizzle]

Absolutely. I gotta go, we gotta go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Celebration.

[Vizzle]

I don't think we ever been to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That Brother, Nah, you haven't.

[Vizzle]

Damn. We got. We going this.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, y' all long overdue.

[Vizzle]

We long overdue, man. It's just the whole build up, the story, everything. Them boys really put that. Put that grind in, and they making this happen, man. They bring the city back. You heard? So.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, man. I swear, man, congratulations on everything that you've done. I know your city is proud of you. Congratulations on turning your life around because you realized the path that you was going on. However, you had to learn the easy way or the hard way, but you figured it out, and you're doing something positive in community. And I want to say, one black man to another, I'm proud of you, man. Congratulations on all your success. Keep. Keep your head down in the straight narrow, and good luck on every. All the projects that you have coming after this. Best of luck, bro.

[Vizzle]

Thank you, bro. I appreciate it, big brother. Thank y' all for having me. Much respect to both of y', all, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y' all.

[Vizzle]

Huge motivation to everybody in the community, outside the community. God bless y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[Vizzle]

I wish y' all nothing but the best and a lot more success. Thank you, brother. I genuinely mean it. Thank you for having me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Appreciate you, bro. All the best, man. Y' all make sure y' all go check out ice wear vessel.

[Colin Cowherd]

Purple.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Purple Passion. It dropped today. Hey, go check him out.

[Vizzle]

Check it out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Appreciate you, bro.

[Vizzle]

Love. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All right. He said Detroit's gonna do it, don't you?

[Vizzle]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, I got common sense, and I. I got. I got eyes. And I told you what I'm gonna do from now on. I'm not betting with my heart no more. I'm not talking football, the game of football in general, with my heart. I'm using my logic. I'm using my eyes. I'm using what I. What I've known and come to understand and playing this game since I was 4 years old. Detroit is very, very good to a point where it's almost. It's almost there at an advantage because of what they have on both sides of the ball. So if. If there's a team that has the strength, if they stay healthy, they go. They go to the. No, to the chip. It's the goddamn Detroit Lions. But they do have one team standing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The Eagles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got one team standing their way.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That is the Philadelphia Eagles do Detroit.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Play Philadelphia this year. November. Detroit plays Philly in Philly on November 16th.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that's right around the corner. That's right around the corner.

[Commercial Announcer 3]

That's gonna be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's that's gonna be, it's gonna be some fireworks there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh sure. We got some news that you might like. According to my, the ring, the rings, Mike Harbinger, Mayweather and Pacquiao are in talks for a potential rematch in 2026. The fight is reportedly being explored as another Netflix boxing event. Mayweather Pacquiao met for the first time in 2015 in a fight that was headlined as the highest grossing pay per view in boxing history. At the time, Mayweather won the fight by unanimous decision, but many believe the fight went down much later in their careers than it should have. It was announced last month that Mayweather and heavyweight legend Mike Tyson agreed to an exhibition fight in the spring of 2026. So the rematch against Pacquiao was, would be another big money fight for the 48 year old Floyd Mayweather. Right? Mayweather's 48, right. Or Pacquiao Ocho, Would you like to see an older version of Mayweather? Pacquiao 2 in 20.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's an older version, younger version. Any, any version, any version of Floyd being back in the ring and actually fighting someone like Manny Pacquiao. Even though I know they older, it's still going to be exciting. We just watched, we watched Pacquiao not too long ago. Ain't nothing. Pacquiao, he move around just fine. He's still bouncing, he's still bouncing, still Thor still sticking and jabbing and getting in and coming out, you know, doing, doing what he does. I, I would like to see it. I understand one thing. Manny Pacquiao wants his get back. If they are to fight again, he gonna get in there and actually fight as opposed to some of the exhibitions that we've been seeing. So I, I think it's interesting to see those two go at it again. And why not? There, there probably will be people that's like, oh, we don't want to see them, they're old. Well, listen, it's the month of November. Don't worry, it's the month of November. You know, it's the month of November. There are some great fights that are coming up this, this month. Some really good fights that are coming up and you got plenty of time. And when this is entertainment purposes only. Netflix. Mayweather, Tyson, Mayweather, Pacquiao. And listen, people are going to say, oh, I don't want to see that. I don't watch it. People are going to watch. Everybody's gonna watch. You might not be watching, but everybody else will because those two individuals are a draw. Floyd, Meadow Flay. Floyd Mayweather is Still a draw no matter what you say.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Look, you're gonna make that kind of money, they probably make 20, 30 million dollars. Where else you're gonna make 20, 30 billion dollars, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nowhere. Nowhere.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So I don't regret the guy can make an honest hustle. Look, I don't know if this is an exhibition fight, if it grows against one of their records or whatever the case may be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, if it's not an exhibition and it goes against the record, well, you know, Floyd finna come out there, man, Floyd ain't playing that. He is not losing that zero.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I think, look, I, I, I think like I said, in the situation, you see the money being tossed around with these exhibition fights. Floyd, like, what the hell? Hey, Manny, let's do part two.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, get a bag. The highest.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The highest. And Netflix, like live Netflix, like live events. They're coming. I am not going to be surprised. I think. Don't they got, don't they got football and Netflix got NFL football this year? Like Christmas Day games or something? Okay, yeah, but they're gonna have a package. It ain't gonna just be, you know, the A. I wouldn't be surprised. You start seeing Sunday games on Netflix and Amazon. You know, I know Amazon got the Thursday package. I know they got the, the Friday, the Black Friday game, but I would not be surprised if Netflix end up getting a package where they have six, seven, eight games in a season. But, no, I agree with you. Oh, I ate. I'll be right there. I'll be right there watching it. All right, we got. It's time to play or fade. How do we do that? How do we do tonight? I don't think Bateman got them. Here's the pick for flex play ahead of tomorrow's NBA slate. Jalen Brown, less than four and a half assists versus the Sixers. No, I think you have five assists. I gave him five. Tyrese Maxey, more than 36 and a half combined points and assists. Man, he, he a. Oh, he going, he going over that. He been going crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What are they playing? Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

The Sixers played the Celtics. Him and BJ Exam.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the rookie.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, nice. Yeah, real nice. Quinn Grimes off the bench doing really. Devin Booker, more than three and a half rebounds versus the Jazz. Yep, yep. We're gonna have four. Laurie marketing more than 25, 24 and a half points versus the Sun. He dropped 50 the first time somebody dropped fifth in a game for Jazz.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Ah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Donovan Mitchell. They said he was the first. They said the other night that he was the first to drop 50, Laurie marketing since Carl Malone. But did Donovan drop those 50s in the playoffs? Yeah. Cause I know he dropped, what, 57 in the playoffs with him. And who are they going back and forth with? The Nuggets. That's when him and what's the guard from the Nuggets, Jamal Murray, was going back and forth. They both had 50 head to head. And Mitch dropped 57 one game.

[Commercial Announcer 3]

57.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes. What I thought. No, but he was at Cleveland when he did that. That's what he did. He did that against Cleveland. Yeah, because he broke LeBron. Because LeBron had like 57, 58, something like that. Yeah. Yep. So I'm taking Large marketing to go more than 24 1/2 points versus the Sun. $25 to win 150. Download the app today. Use code Shannon. That's Code Shannon. To get 50 in lineups. After you play your first five dollar lineup. It's good to be right. All right. Time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Jeremy, I ain't had one of these knife like this in a long time, bro. I mean, you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What kind of night?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I'm hurting, you know? You know what I'm talking about?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I'm fighting for my life.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We about to get out of here. This one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A long time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, so you ain't see that one thing I could do, I'm going, hey, like a truck on Red Bull all night.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's different for you because you, you on. You. You on the other side of the world. You gotta remember, remember, I'll be asleep by 9:30.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ocho. I'm up at 7.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm up at 5.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yo, you do realize. You do realize what time seven is? And I'm gonna go to bed till like midnight, okay?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but I've been good, though. I've been good, though. This is. This is the first. It's my first time in a long time or I was fighting, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

JJ said Unc tried to tell him about them guppies. I did, jj. I tried to tell about them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y', all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y', all. Y' all get out my dog now. Y' all get on my dog. You understand the issues we having right now, man? That's. That's why we didn't stand a chance to make night.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They not our issues. Hey, say, go ahead and send Lilo and Stitch unadopted, unappealing stepbrothers to the bench and put yours in. Season is a wash there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all go there. Y' all got. Now, now, we. Y' all not. Listen, I want y' all to keep the same. I didn't already apologize too. And no, we had a friendly banter back and forth. I didn't say anything negative. I wasn't malicious. I just said the Dolphins to win. I said everything in a respectful way. See? See how you got the Ravens fan being nasty after? I didn't apologize. All right, Keep that same energy now. Keep that same.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We did. I tried to tell you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, who y' all got? Who y' all got next coming out the B.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don't worry about. Don't. Don't you worry about who we got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay? Play, play. Play like a raven, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

And the words of Eden, Poe, Baba Patel, Dolphins really went from tank for tour to tank with tour. And did Ocho got to start betting with intelligence and have the guts to pay, don't we? Don't think we forgot the 5900. Ocho not paying up. Says a lot about someone. It does. David says he hadn't paid me yet, but he gonna say, but, you know, you see how he do them, see how they do you. It'd be your own people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I told y' all one thing about our own people. This is the good thing about it, though. You understand? As long as I owe you, you'll.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Never be broke, but okay, as long as you owe a Loski, he'll never be broke, but you gonna send him his bready xd. Say, what does Lamar need to do to get a statue? Next one to raise this team is depending on him. Just like they depended on Ray's greeting from Germany. You gotta win the championship. Ray is a Ray of the two time. A two time SU bowl champ. He's a. He's a Super bowl mvp. A two time defensive player of the year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, that's what gives us.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what gives you a statue.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If Lamar gets a trophy and yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He gets a statue, he get a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Statue out there in Baltimore. He get a statue at Boynton Beach High School. They better put a goddamn statue of Lamar Jackson at Miami International Airport.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They put a stat. They're probably gonna get what they don't. They got something in Louisville.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, probably.

[Vizzle]

They better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They better have one there, too. I'm talking about life size.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, I mean, it's probably gonna be a little bigger than life size, don't you. You do realize a statue that's life size ain't that big.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My bad.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, my God, I Love spurs basketball. 5 and. Oh, poor Vita GSG for life. Whatever that means. Bro, I'm sorry, I don't understand. But yes, you guys are playing well. I guess we'll be had another game Triple X come Saturday at at this point needs to make. Where's my 5900? Oh, merch. This year. This year is almost over and it seems like. Okay. Never getting the 5,900. I ain't, you know, I put it. What you call them? I'm gonna have to call. Put a credit thing on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm gonna send it to credit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's that? Credit who credit card.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nope. I'm gonna send it to the credit put then your credit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay. Listen, my score drop a little bit, but I get it back up a lot of bit.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Demonte Williams said 5 Ocho a game. Check with interest. Rude boy. 217 say oh go. Would it make sense? AJ Brown and a 2020. A 2026 second round pick for TJ Watt. Both salaries are close. It would be a win for both sides. Philly trades another wide out who's consistent but not a star. A Rod, AJ and dk.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Consistent but not a start.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You wrote that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, he said. I didn't say that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did he say consistent but not a star?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what he said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, you see? You see what I mean? See what I mean? Now you see why he complained about getting the ball because now here you go. Talk about AJ Brown ain't no goddamn star because of his lack of production. This is what I'm talking about.

[Colin Cowherd]

This type.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is why he arguing. This is why you fought. This is why he reading the goddamn book on the sideline.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, the chat say I send it to collections. That's what I'm gonna send it. Collections. Eric Jones says give a realistic trade, three first round picks and maybe the Kobe Dean. If it's aj, it's two first rounds. Otherwise we keep what we have and keep going. Philly talk. PA said please read the New York Times article about AJ that dropped today. He's connected his tweets to a mental health importance. Shefty already said AJ is not going anywhere. Jalen Carter isn't going anywhere either. Yeah, you say that. But let Cleveland Brown say we'll give you Miles Garrett and they'll get off either one of those guys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think people, I don't think fans understand all the Adam Chef is saying the player is not going nowhere or owner saying the player is not going to wear. That means nothing when it comes down to conducting Business.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So let me get this right. You and I can agree on this. The key, Cleveland Brown says, Look, we want three first round picks or two first round picks. A second round pick. And we want A.J. brown or Jalen Carter. You mean to tell me the Philadelphia. Who's going to say no? You gonna get a guy that's the premier pass rusher at his position and he's not 30, man, y' all just be talking to talk. They'll get off either one of those players for an opportunity to get Miles Garrett. Yeah, Miles Garrett's don't go on trees. I think A.J. brown. So let me ask you a question. You think it's harder to find an A.J. brown or Miles Garrett? Exactly. Moving right along. Earl Teran said, listen to Ocho. Prime did it, Unc. They need you. They would listen to you, Shannon. You would adjust. Once you see success, UN's leadership brought the Ravens a suit. You heard what he said, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, well, hey, listen. Take that leadership over to lsu. Take it down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Absolutely not. No, I. I gotta have the leadership. Who's gonna run Shay?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shay Media, Ash Jordan? You know what's funny? The people. The people.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, it's kind of hard to run Shay shit meeting with that shade.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me tell you something. The people from lsu, they gonna see this, they gonna see these clips, and I guarantee you get a call in about two days.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Watch, I changed my number.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they know how to get in touch with you. Don't worry about that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They got to go through Shelly. And Shelly ain't sending me no info about no coaching. Shakur said this should be the rule. Having to sell your consistently bad. Why team if you're not trying to win and they're already billionaires. Because once you get 1 billion, what are you trying to do, Ocho? You get two. If you get two, you're trying to get four.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let me ask you a question. How much is Eli worth Musk worth now? 500 billion. I think it was like 500 billion, didn't I see 475. 500 billion.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He ain't stopped.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, me 500.2. He worth 500. A half a trillion dollars. You think Elon Musk ain't trying to get to 600? 700.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey. That's crazy when you think about it, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

What's that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, me and Elon Musk, but we shoot our estimated net worth about the same.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, y' all estimated net worth is worth 500.6 billion. Man, I can't even imagine. I Can't. My bad. Would he rap on. Can't even rapper can't even fathom. 500 million.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I have $500 million. I tell you we can find me. I'll tell you where you can find me. I'm gonna be on the island.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You couldn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they're not gonna be able to find you. Nah, listen, I'd be in the Bahamas somewhere. I had me a nice house built. I'm taking my kid. I'm taking all my kids. I'm getting custody. We gonna be at. Everybody gonna be homeschooled. I'm gonna have the nicest game room ever. I'm gonna do. I'm still gonna do. I'm still gonna do nightcap. I'm still. I don't care how much money I get. I'm still gonna do nightcap because the people deserve that. They deserve the last and the fun and entertainment. Yeah, I'm a game all day. That's it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man. Miguel Ortiz. Which runner up is more snubbed on winning an actual mvp? Joker losing to Embiid or Lamar losing to Allen? I think Lamar losing to Allen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. As great as. As great as Josh Allen played last year. I mean, Lamar having.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I thought Lamar had a better season.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that was. That. That was crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, 40 plus touchdowns. What, he have four. Only four?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. I think he only had six total turnovers. I think he fumbled. Yeah. For me. And I thought, yo, you know, the year Joel Embiid won, I thought Jokic deserved it, but I earned it. But Lamar, last year, I was shocked. Frank Tank. 921 Ocho, what do you think about UNC being an accountability coach?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like it. I like it. That's. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's all the more reason why he should coach at lsu because he can instill and install all those great qualities that he displays not only here, but in life. You know, on those players.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Timothy Humphrey. Nobody wants to see Floyd versus Pacquiao Clown Show. I'd rather see OO versus James.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you gonna see it?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, hell, that might be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you gonna see it. Hey, hey, Devo. I hope you see this. I'm a punch in your face, boy, huh? Matter of fact, I'm gonna hit you so hard. I'm gonna hit you so hard. That's it. I'm gonna hit you so hard.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Elliot said, oh, you got a whole Ocho's check. His nightcap logo is never lit and his plain black is playing back there. Now you can't see it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, now you understand why it's not lit. Nosy ass.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Saucy D say, is it time for Philly to move on from Joel with the way he's back court if that knee won't ever be the same? No, it's never going to be the same. They've gone in it too many times. No, it's never gonna be the same. No. Not if they try to protect him. They got a lot of money tied up in it, man. I mean, Daryl Murray gave him a contract when he didn't have to. He still probably got almost $200 million left on that contract. I mean, if he can't get on the court for Philly, where is he gonna get on the court at? Cause at the end of the day, it's still basketball. You still have to run up and down to hardwood and you still play 82 games.

[Kamani Vidal]

So.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Philly find himself in a conundrum. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. The Baltimore Ravens moved to 3 and 5 thanks to a 286 victory over the Guppies, who fought a 2 and 7. Lamar Jackson, 18 of 23, 204 yards, four touchdown passes, no interceptions. 2 of was 25 of 40 zero touchdowns, one interceptions and they had two fumbles. So the Dolphins turned the ball over three times. The Ravens played a clean ball game. Thank you for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite dog, Shannon Sharp. And that is my partner and co host, that is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We would personally like to thank each and every one of you for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth. Thank you for helping Nightcap grow to what has become and will continue to grow. We'll continue to enjoy success because of you. Again, thank you very much. Make sure you go check out shave by [e-mail]. grab yours while you can. Now if you can't find it in a state or city near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. The best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Compare it, try it against other premium vsOps and I promise you you will not be disappointed. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Follow my media company on all of his platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84 with 84 being spelled in the chat, we want to thank our special guests joining us tonight. I swear Vizzle and Kamani Vidal. They joined us. Running back for the Chargers. I swear is out of Detroit. He's a rapper. Just dropped a project today. Again, the Ravens beat the Dolphins 28. 6. Lamar Jackson 18 of 23, 204, four touchdowns as they win. Derrick Henry had 19 carries, 119 yards. He looked like the Derrick Henry that we all know and love. That's it for us at Nightcap. We'll see you Saturday after college football. I'm unk he's Ocho. Thank you guys again for joining us. We're out.

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