Nightcap Hour 2: Draymond Green OUT OF POCKET DISS to Charles Barkley, Caitlin Clark vs. A'Ja Wilson vs. Paige Bueckers PICK 1 to BUILD a Franchise around

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2

Episode Theme:
A wide-ranging roundtable on sports culture and life, featuring debates about NBA star Draymond Green's dig at Charles Barkley, the WNBA “pick one to build around” poll (Caitlin Clark vs. A’ja Wilson vs. Paige Bueckers), and classic sports banter from NFL legend Shannon Sharpe, Joe Johnson (ISO), and legendary receiver Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson. The trio also drop candid reflections on humble beginnings, hard work, luxury, fan questions, and celebrate sports moments across generations.

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Main Theme Overview

• The episode centers on debates about respect and legacy in professional basketball, with a highlight on Draymond Green's shot at Charles Barkley and a spirited discussion comparing today’s top WNBA stars as franchise cornerstones. Interwoven are stories of upbringing, work ethic, and iconic sports moments, delivered with a blend of humor, nostalgia, and sharp insight.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Growing Up, Work Ethic, and Success

• Humble beginnings: Opened with stories of growing up in tough circumstances—no shower until 1988, outdoor bathrooms, and minimal means.
  • “Everything that we had, we worked our ass off for. And I hold it dear.” – Joe Johnson [05:22]
• Pride and drive: Discussed how early struggles shaped their relentless work ethic.
  • “I wouldn’t trade them tough times, though, because that builds true character, bro.” – Uncle Ocho [07:40]
• Why they don’t vacation: The hosts prefer productivity over relaxation, seeing work as a constant source of meaning.
  • “If I take time off, what am I gonna do? … All I want to do is go work out.” – Joe Johnson [09:25]

2. Travel Banter and Friendship

• Debate over travel destinations: Playful banter about possible group vacations—Bahamas, Jamaica, staying local, or splurging on Maldives-style bungalows.
  • “I be thinking about Bali, and I think about the Maldives, and I just—I'm leaving to travel all the way over there for the same thing I can see right here in Miami.” – ISO [16:54]
• Workout discipline while traveling: Discussion of always hitting the gym, no matter the destination, tied to their pro athlete discipline.
  • “Anytime I take a trip, bro, I gotta hit that gym.” – Uncle Ocho [13:45]

3. Draymond Green vs. Charles Barkley Disrespect

• Draymond’s diss: Draymond Green takes a shot at Barkley, saying the goal is not to end up like him in a Houston Rockets uniform, sparking debate.
  • “People just see Chuck on ‘Inside the NBA’, right? They don’t realize how great he was.” – Joe Johnson [28:10]
• Legacy vs. rings: A consensus that Barkley’s career is severely undervalued due to his lack of a championship ring.
  • “Draymond ain’t a better basketball player than Charles.” – Joe Johnson [29:39]
• Barkley’s true stats: Barkley averaged 19 points/13.5 rebounds in Houston, 22/12 over 16 seasons.
  • “16 seasons. That pretty good—22 and 12.” – Joe Johnson [31:08]
• On era context: Barkley guarded 6’9” players at 6’4”, with tenacity and a complete game that transcended ring count.
  • “There’s not been a woman in the WNBA that has the total package what A’ja Wilson has.” – Joe Johnson [41:34]

4. WNBA “Build-a-Franchise” Debate

• GM poll reactions: Reviewing the 2026 GM survey — Paige Bueckers, A’ja Wilson, and Caitlin Clark are the top picks, but the hosts are emphatic:
  • “I’m not taking a woman over A’ja [Wilson]… There might have been women that could score like A’ja, but not that complete.” – Joe Johnson [41:11]
• The “underrated big”: Argued that A’ja Wilson’s dominance on both ends makes her #1. Others, like Clark, may sell tickets, but Wilson wins games.
  • “If you trying to win, ain’t taking nobody over A’ja. No, you crazy?” – Joe Johnson [42:44]
• Historic WNBA context: Cited legends (Lisa Leslie, Cheryl Swoopes, Maya Moore, Candace Parker) but doubled down on Wilson’s unique skill set.
  • “She should be favored to win the MVP again… This girl here is unbelievable.” – Joe Johnson [43:01]
• Financial progress for women’s basketball: Excitement over rising player pay, reducing the need to play overseas.
  • “These girls... the money is going to be flowing now. They’re not gonna have to go overseas.” – Joe Johnson [45:00]

5. Q&A Segment: Audience Banter & Classic Sports Debate

• Bad officiating complaints: Many fans express frustration at NBA refereeing, particularly in high-profile LeBron games.
  • “Yeah, I think there are a lot of people that thought they was on some bullshit tonight. Called a lot of ticky-tack stuff.” – Joe Johnson [54:36]
• Favorite games to relive: Hosts share their most cherished career moments, including Super Bowl wins and playing against MJ.
  • “It would be my fifth game, my rookie year—and playing against MJ, bro…I still watch it from time to time.” – Uncle Ocho [55:20]
• Sports hypotheticals:
  • “International team vs. the ’92 Dream Team?” Consensus: nobody is beating the Dream Team in their prime [78:23].
  • “Michael Jackson vs. Chris Brown: Who wins a dance battle?” – Different styles, but MJ’s icon status is unrivaled [73:49].

6. Pop Culture & Flexing

• Watch and luxury culture: Spirited debate about starting/benching/cutting Rolex, AP, and Richard Mille watches.
  • “I'm starting the Rolly. Absolutely timeless.” – ISO [66:57]
• Yacht dreams and the perils of ‘boat ownership’: Joking about luxurious purchases vs. practicalities.
  • “Boat, you know what a boat stand for? Bust Out Another Thousand.” – Joe Johnson [71:20]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

On Upbringing and Grit

• “Everything that we had, we worked our ass off for. Yeah, yeah. And I hold it dear.” – Joe Johnson [05:22]
• “I wouldn’t trade them tough times, though, because that—it builds true character, bro.” – Uncle Ocho [07:40]

On Barkley’s Legacy

• “Draymond ain’t a better basketball player than Charles… That first year, y’all know what Charles Barkley averaged? 19 points, 13 and a half rebounds. Can I interest you in that?” – Joe Johnson [29:39 & 29:42]
• “People have allowed rings to be the end all, be all… And you’re taking guys with rings and saying, ‘because he has rings, he’s better than X.’ No, sir.” – Joe Johnson [30:17]

On A’ja Wilson and the WNBA

• “There’s not been a woman in the WNBA that has the total package what A’ja Wilson has.” – Joe Johnson [41:34]
• “If you trying to win, ain’t taking nobody over A’ja. No, you crazy?” – Joe Johnson [42:44]

On Being True to Self

• “If I take time off, what am I gonna do? … All I want to do is go work out.” – Joe Johnson [09:25]

On Luxury

• “I want a yacht. A super yacht. Mega yacht…But you know what a boat stand for? Bust Out Another Thousand.” – Joe Johnson [71:13 & 71:20]

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Notable Timestamps

• Growing Up Stories: [03:34–08:56]
• Travel Banter: [09:43–19:03]
• Draymond vs. Barkley Debate: [28:02–35:45]
• WNBA Franchise Player Debate: [40:36–49:02]
• Listener Q&A (Ref complaints, favorite games, NBA hypotheticals): [53:27–79:12]
• Luxury watches/flex talk: [66:39–71:07]
• Closing NBA Playoffs Recap: [91:41–92:28]

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Tone & Language

The conversation is candid, funny, and infused with personal stories. The hosts use authentic (occasionally explicit) locker-room language in a way that’s familial and inclusive. The love of the game, the desire to teach, and the spirit of healthy debate shine throughout.

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For Listeners New to the Show

This episode is a showcase of sports debate at its most raw and insightful—deep dives on legacies (Barkley vs. Draymond), unapologetic appreciation for the WNBA’s evolution, and old-school wisdom on what it takes to succeed, all delivered with the wit and storytelling acumen of athletes who’ve truly lived it. Come for the headline debates, but stay for the life philosophy and the camaraderie.

Transcript

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[Joe Johnson]

I wonder. I'm gonna bring my memory book and you can see what I cause I've been saying that. I've been saying this as I was a freshman. I'm gonna be in the NFL. I'm gonna have a white Mercedes and all this. Yeah, Every girl signed my memory book. Shannon, when you in the NFL, don't forget me. Were you rich and famous?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Remember I was your homegirl? I was your friend. Oh, I. When you grow up, like. Like I said, people, man, you grow up like you was in the 1940s. That was my life. Yeah, that's how I grew up. I don't know what you want me to tell you. I didn't have no shower. I didn't take a shower in a home until 1988. That was the first time I took a shower in a home. The first time I actually took a shower. I think I was about this 5th grade and 4H camp. I ain't even know how to turn the shower on, man. I got in there, I was like, damn. So I said, man, hey, man, this shower won't even work. It's like, what's wrong with it? It was just Working early. I said, I don't know. I ain't know. You had to twist one thing and then twist another thing for the water to come out on your head. I ain't know. But 1988, when he got a new house, that was the first time I had ever taken a shower in a home. Hey, and you think I wanted to live like that for the rest of my life? That's what my grandmother. That's all they ever know. And never taking a shower. Hey, those times I want to live like that. I'm 58, so in 19, so 1988, my grandmother born it. Granny was born in 21 or 22, so 88. So 66 years. My grandma had gone outside to go to the next. Stop it, man. And y' all thought I wanted to live like that. And y' all wonder why I'm like, how I am and why I want to protect.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, you.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, you. You a harder no. Because we didn't have a whole lot of things. We didn't have a whole lot of valuable stuff. We didn't have a whole lot of good stuff. But everything that we had, we worked our ass off for. Yeah, yeah. And I hold it. I hold it dear,

[Uncle Ocho]

please hey, hey. Those times shape and mold you, boy.

[ISO]

Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho]

Shaving mojit.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho said, man, Ocho was asking me, we first started. He like, how you get. How you get the key? I said, oo. They didn't look out the window like you did. You looked at the window, and it was broken. They look out of a window, and it got 10 on the other side so they can't see in. You got a three, four car garage. Yo, you had a carport or you parked that in the front. Yeah, it's different. You had one bathroom, maybe a bath and a half. They got six.

[ISO]

Hey,

[Joe Johnson]

in order for somebody to see what you see, they got to look out the same window.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

People say, well, if they walk a mile. No, no, no, no. And I told people, so you can't walk a mile of my shoes. So what if you walked a mile of my shoes? And that just so happened to be the best day of my life. I need you to spend 20 years and walk 20 years in these shoes. Now you get a sense of what it's like to go hungry or not have and have to go outside and it's cold or have to go outside when it's hot and the mosquitoes are biting and go use the bathroom when it's raining, when it's a deluge outside. That's when you got to be in this body, in these. You walk, these shoes. So when they. When they try to tell me, oh, you got a silver spoon? Or you the Illuminati? I said, yeah, come aluma. Who? That's what it. Any. Any. Any. Any person, Black person that. That somehow worked their ass off and become something. If you had to have sold your soul, you had to have sold something, man. Instead of giving somebody credit for working hard, that's too easy. Because I was willing to work for my goals, and you was too lazy to work for yours. So you said, I had to have. Had to have done something because nobody just gave it to you. So, Shannon, you got it. Somebody had to have done that for you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, hey, I wouldn't trade them tough times, though, because that. It builds true character, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

I trade a little of them Joe, though. Hey, but think about it. Can I get. Instead of having 20 years, can I get, like, five?

[Uncle Ocho]

Think about it. You probably wouldn't be going as hard as you go now, though.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I wouldn't.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

Look, that's all I know.

[Uncle Ocho]

Look at everything that you've done, bro, for the culture, you know, in the podcasting world, in. In football. Like, damn, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

You built.

[Uncle Ocho]

You built a platform where guys like me and Ocho, we can. Come on. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, hey, bro. Hey, I commend you for it, bro. Like, I know it's tough, but, see,

[Joe Johnson]

that's the thing when you grow up, like, Ocho grew up, that's why Ocho want to work all them jobs. Because, see, Ocho, like me, I don't want to be broke. Yeah, hell, I know what it's like to be broke. I know what it's like not to have.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

And I would. I like being the position I'm in. I'd rather have than have not. Yeah. So I know what it's like. So I work my ass off. They're like, man, you got. I say, okay, if I retire, then what am I gonna do, right?

[ISO]

I gotta have. I gotta be doing something.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't like to travel, man. You know, that's what you like to do. And bless your heart for wanting to travel, but that ain't mine, right? That ain't what I like to do. I like to work. Yeah, I love it.

[Uncle Ocho]

It gives you the man.

[Joe Johnson]

I wonder what. Man, what we gonna talk about today? Hey, let's talk about this, Ash. I think this would be good. This would be something good to talk about. That's I don't want to travel because y' all travel. Y' all want to go on vacay. I don't feel I need to get away from anything. Everything that I need is right here where I'm at.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's me to the T, bro. I want to be busy doing something productive, you know what I mean? Versus just sitting around, not doing a damn thing.

[Joe Johnson]

Nope. Yeah, that's it. Like, Shannon, when you gonna take some time off? I said, take time off and do what? I said I'm just. And that's what people. If I take time off, what am I gonna do? Do what? I'm talking about, what do I. What. I mean, I don't have any habits. My thing. And that's why I think the thing has worked for me in the off season. Oh. Showing. And I ain't going no vacation. All I want to do is go work out.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I would call Bucket. I called my home, said, look here. Okay? Now y' all got one month to come see me. After that, I'm moody, I'm grouchy. I'm eating X amount of calories. I'm eating about 3,000 calories a day. I'm eating. I'm eating. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Ain't no more going out. So come see me the first month. Yeah, you eat What I mean? 3,000 calories a day. No, you see, And I'm running. I'm working out on the track. I'm on the track for two hours. I'm in the gym for 90 minutes. Don't you break. Hey, don't come up here. Hey, hey, hey, Sharp. Let's come. I'm coming through and make. No, you're not.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right, Right.

[Joe Johnson]

No. So that's always. That's always how I've been.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So now, like, I understand that the. And the team that we've assembled, they understand it, and they work. I want to give them some time off, but it's hard.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

but I'm telling you, the color day. I'm going somewhere.

[ISO]

Hey, when. When you going?

[Joe Johnson]

We can't go until after the World Cup.

[ISO]

Okay, so. So July.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[ISO]

Also, we're gonna take a little break before football season.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[ISO]

So what we traveling to? We all going. All three of us, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Joe got to fill in. Joe don't get.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take over nightcap while y'. All.

[ISO]

Okay, okay. Where are we going?

[Joe Johnson]

Where you want to go?

[ISO]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Let's. I. We see it, like, three. Three Four. Three. Four. Three or four islands.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[ISO]

We should hit like three or four islands, like spend two days in each island, then, you know, hop on another island.

[Joe Johnson]

Like how far?

[ISO]

I mean, each island, maybe an hour away.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no. I'm saying how far we got to go to get to the islands?

[ISO]

Oh, shoot. I don't know. That's on you, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Hell, I'm perfectly fine going to Parris island. Right over there in South Carolina.

[Uncle Ocho]

Bad.

[Joe Johnson]

Please. Jamaica.

[ISO]

You been there before? No, I mean, I mean, I could.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't been to Jamaica. I ain't been to Mexico. I ain't been nowhere.

[ISO]

Hey, listen, I told you, I went to.

[Joe Johnson]

I went to. I went to Rome. I went to Rome, I went to Florence.

[ISO]

Yeah. I didn't been all over. I didn't been all over Italy.

[Uncle Ocho]

You went to Rome.

[Joe Johnson]

That's it.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's why when you, when you were the Rome, you would chase. You were chasing one.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO]

Oh, yeah, I forgot. You said you went to Rome for that thing. Yeah. Hey, I ain't never heard nothing like that, boy. Hey, Joe, you ever went that far for some.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, nah, nah, nah. I ain't never been that far.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, come on, man. Come on, stall about it. Come on, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm saying, I'm saying when you went over there, you wasn't sightseeing or nothing. You went straight for.

[Joe Johnson]

You would.

[Uncle Ocho]

You gave.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Hey, we walked around. Cause I got there. I got there because I left. I left Sunday. I left JLK Sunday night. So when I got to Rome, it was sun. It was Monday morning.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Went straight to the train, straight to Florence.

[ISO]

Damn. You ain't go see the Coliseum first.

[Joe Johnson]

I promise you I won't. That I won. So we get the Florence, get checked in. You don't do that. Yeah, I was, you know.

[ISO]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Excited. Very excited.

[ISO]

Yeah. Florence is beautiful, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Go work out, come back. I'm still excited, you know?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[ISO]

Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, good old time. Good time, too. Good one.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, anytime I take a trip, bro, I gotta hit that gym. I gotta hit that gym. I don't give a damn where I'm at.

[ISO]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Gotta hit it.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm not. I'm not like it. I'm not like that anymore, Joe. But when I was playing, I ain't gonna. Hey, I got to get the gym coming to Vegas. No matter what time I came in, it'd be 4 o', clock, 5 o'. Clock. By 9 o', clock, I'm in the gym.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I'm in The gym. See, I was a guy, I remember. It's a girl I was dating. We went to, we went to Jamaica actually. And soon.

[ISO]

Okay, okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

As soon as we got to Jamaica again, Ocho, I went straight to the gym. She was pissed off.

[Joe Johnson]

How you going to work out?

[Uncle Ocho]

We man, damn all that. Did my money make a hell. This how I get paid?

[Joe Johnson]

I'm g get you. I'm get, I'm. Hey, like the more people say I'm G10 to you. Yeah, hold on.

[Uncle Ocho]

But hey, I got to take care of me first now.

[Joe Johnson]

Exactly, exactly. But you know what? I'm going go, we'll figure out something. OO oo we can't go that far now, man.

[ISO]

I, I, hey, I told you. I told you, man. Listen, we can hit the Bahamas. We get Jamaica now. We talk, we go in the island.

[Joe Johnson]

How far the Bahamas from here? What the Bahamas? At that close to me?

[ISO]

30 minutes. How many 30 minute flight. Okay, 40. 40 minutes. 40 minutes.

[Joe Johnson]

So I'm gonna have to, so I'm gonna have to be on that side of town. So I'm gonna need to be able to start from Atlanta because I can't start from Vegas.

[ISO]

Yeah, you start from Vegas. You start, you start from Atlanta, land

[Joe Johnson]

in Atlanta and turn around and get on the flight. Come right back to Vegas.

[ISO]

Yeah, listen, you love the food, man. You love the food in Jamaica, Bahamas. Matter of fact, I, I need to take you to Saint Martin as well. We might as well hit Saint Martin as well.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Yeah. How long we gonna be gone?

[ISO]

I mean, we need about maybe a week and a half.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, hell no. If you say hey, oh, we be gone, we be. Do I do I tell you what I do, I do what about four days and three nights?

[ISO]

Now, come on, I'm trying to take you to, I'm trying to show you some things you ain't never done before, man. Meet the people, you know, Introduce you to some new cultures, you know, some new delicacies you've never had before. We need more than four, four days and three nights.

[Joe Johnson]

I do five days fortnite. That's all I got for yo Joe, okay? That's it. I ain't gonna lie, Ocho. I ain't finna lie to you, okay? I am not gonna lie, Ocho. I'll be over there, I'll be over there a week, 10 days.

[ISO]

Hey, I got you. I could work with that. I call the right people, call the prime minister, you know, you know, call the pm. Each place we're gonna be straight.

[Uncle Ocho]

What y' all gonna go over there and eat some bull digging onions.

[ISO]

Not.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I ain't going over there for that. Yeah, I get. Hey, I know somebody right down there. Glitter, cook that up. Hey, I ain't gotta go with stuff like that. I ain't got to go way across there for that joke. Hey. And then right for the seat did right for the season. Hey, we get, like, three days, me, you, and Ocho. So we get about three days right before the season kick off.

[Uncle Ocho]

All right, I. With that, y' all let me know, man. Hey, look, don't threaten me with no good time now. I like a good time, you know?

[Joe Johnson]

No, I can't do. I can't do. No, I can't. Hey, that's the only thing about this. Like, with Shannon, if you go way. If you go to Bali or you go to, you know, the Maldives or something, Shannon, you have to go at least like, seven to 10 days. It's gonna take you a day just

[ISO]

to get there, and that's too far, man. Hey, hey. I be thinking about Bali, and I think about the Maldives, Joe and I just, like, I'm leaving the travel all the way over there for the same thing. I can see right here in Miami. Yeah, it's water right here. It's trees right here. You know, I can make it. I can make it aesthetically look just like I'm way out there

[Joe Johnson]

on top of the water. That thing looks so good. You know what I'm saying? They got the little huts. Oh, yeah.

[ISO]

But the little breakfast. And you could do that right here in Miami at an Airbnb. You ain't got to do that.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I want to be out there, but I want to be out there by myself. I want nobody around.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, it sounds like. It sounds like y' all gonna be doing some. Some grown folk activities.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I mean. I mean, look, if O.J. don't go. But I. They got. There's a balcony somewhere with my name on it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[ISO]

I can make. I can make sure. I. I could arrange that for you, too. Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, just something about the. Seeing them. See them. Them bungalows on the Maldives.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I'm saying?

[Uncle Ocho]

They clear water.

[ISO]

They got that right. They got that right in Jamaica. As sandals. As sandals. Yes. We got the bungalows on the water. Put you out there by the ocean. You can't even get to it except by boat. You ain't got to go the way to Bali, huh? The only belly I know is what you put on your shoes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ocho, the water clear. You can see. You can see.

[ISO]

See. Hey, boy. You see everything, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[ISO]

I tell you no lie.

[Joe Johnson]

I can see. Hold on. I can look at the water, see my reflection. Everything.

[ISO]

Matter of fact, everything.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me tell you about the mirror, huh?

[ISO]

Let me. Hey, let me tell you about the Sanders Resort with the bungalows. You go, you can swim under. You can swim under. Under your room. So if you. You with. You with your spouse.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[ISO]

She can look on the floor and see you swim under. Under the ocean, through the middle of the flow. What you do that, man, I tell you no lie. Hey, them. Ate them. Them Bungalows and Sandals in Jamaica.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[ISO]

Hey, boy, listen, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, it look like you. It sound like you had a hell of a time over there.

[ISO]

Oh, yeah. Cause, you know, I know. I know the boss man. I know the head man over there, so anytime I want to go, and I. I ain't take advantage of it. I went one time with, you know, somebody in the past. I ain't been back since.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[ISO]

You know, because I didn't want to take advantage of, you know. You know, having access to the person who, you know. So, I mean, it's about time. It's been about five years now. It's about time to make another trip.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know. I'm gonna run and go out there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Next year. The time I might have. Yeah, y' all might be some godparents. Hey, don't tell about o'. Shea. You gotta find it all good.

[ISO]

Oh, no, it's nice, though, Joe. I mean, the only thing that. The only thing that make me nervous is the fact that the only way to get there is by boat. And once you out there, you out there.

[Joe Johnson]

You.

[ISO]

I mean, you. You there. So unless. Yeah. That's the only thing that make me uncomfortable. There's no land, so you just. You the bungalows. You got your own butler, you know, and, you know, they they cooking and doing whatever you need, but. But when I say you in the middle of the ocean, huh? Well, you in the middle of the ocean.

[Joe Johnson]

Why y' all talking? You what, I'm barbecuing myself.

[ISO]

Yeah. Santa's.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, y' all about to look that up. Sandals, huh? You say Sandals.

[ISO]

Bungalows. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It's in Jamaica. Jamaica.

[ISO]

Jamaica.

[Uncle Ocho]

I heard. I heard of Sandals, too.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh? Oh, they got. Oh, they got. Actually, they got. They got things everywhere.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

What you mean? What you mean they got things?

[Joe Johnson]

Sandals. They got, like. They might have some in the Maldives. They might have some sandals in Molly. They huge.

[ISO]

They huge. Yo, they huge. It's just the fact. So you don't have to take that long flight. They offer the same services right there in Jamaica.

[Joe Johnson]

But I do want. Everybody but I. But I do want. I do want. I do want to. I. I got to get on Emirates. I got to get on one of those. Playo. The bed. The Emirates or Japanese? Singapore air?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, Japan air.

[Joe Johnson]

I got to be on one of those.

[ISO]

You just wanna. You just want to fly far on. I ain't got

[Joe Johnson]

to come back.

[ISO]

The only time I'm getting on Emirates is it has to be a soccer game. And then I. I don't have to go to Emirates this year because the World cup is coming to me. I ain't got to go to it.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm trying to get.

[ISO]

I'm excited for that.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm trying to renew his mile high club.

[Joe Johnson]

I got, I got to. And I heard Emirates is great. So they got Emirates, they got Japanese. Japan Jaw. They got Singapore Air. What's the other.

[ISO]

Listen, Emirates and Qatar is the best. Qatar, Emerson. Qatar Airway is the best. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. The hospitality.

[Joe Johnson]

I gotta put my penis together. I'm going.

[ISO]

Hey, hey. The service is unbelievable.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you better believe it. Gonna be unbelievable.

[ISO]

Hey, matter of fact, are we. We going to south of France this young?

[Joe Johnson]

No, we got to work.

[ISO]

So we not going to. What's it called again?

[Joe Johnson]

Can. No, we going next year.

[ISO]

Okay. All right, cool.

[Joe Johnson]

We going. We. We're definitely going next year. So, Joe, put that on your calendar.

[Uncle Ocho]

I bet, cuz.

[ISO]

Hey, I got, I got some loaf. I got some, some, some, some loafers. I was ready, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

What you gonna. Hold on. What you mean?

[Joe Johnson]

You gonna have your dogs out, not loafers.

[ISO]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe, I don't play well. I'm in Miami, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Open toe. You open toe Sando kind of dude.

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[ISO]

My little Herman. My little Hermes. Yeah, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you rock like that too. No.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. I ain't having these dogs.

[Joe Johnson]

My feet ain't bad, Joe. My feet ain't bad. My feet.

[ISO]

Hey, my feet ain't bad either, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, all the years in football and stuff. Yeah, go ahead.

[ISO]

Hey, Joe, I got the open toe sandals and I got the gator loafing, Joe. The slip ons with the linen set, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, you ready?

[ISO]

Set.

[Uncle Ocho]

Are you ready?

[ISO]

You know, with the. Look with the. With the matching cigar case?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir. Oh, look at him, Joe.

[ISO]

I'm talking about Joe. Hey, put just a watch. No jury. Look, Joe, looking like money, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

I already know.

[ISO]

Hey, look like money.

[Uncle Ocho]

I already know.

[Joe Johnson]

It What?

[ISO]

Hey look hey look like a billion dollars ain't spend yeah.

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[Joe Johnson]

Draymond Green took a shot at Charles Barkley, and that didn't go over well on inside NBA Dre said the goal is just not look like you in the Houston Rockies uniform.

[ISO]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

So first is blaming Steve Kerr, then Austin river is not disrespecting Chuck on television. What's going on with Draymond? I don't think. See? See? People just see Chuck inside the NBA, right? They don't realize how great he was. They don't.

[ISO]

Wait, hold on. You don't think Draymond Green understands how good Chuck was even though he didn't win a ring? Yeah. Hey, hell, even I know how good goddamn Barkley was.

[Joe Johnson]

Ernie. Ernie said he took stuck up for Chuck telling Draymond he has 43 games with more turnovers than field goal in the playoffs. He's tied with Kendrick Perkins for the most since 2003. Who Draymond is. Yeah,

[Uncle Ocho]

I think. Because, hey, look, Barkley was a hell of a player, and what he said was he didn't want. Yeah, he didn't want to look like how Barker looked in Houston. But, hell, Barkley made the All Star team, I think, his first year in Houston.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Look at. Pull up Barkley's numbers in Houston. People think Barkley. Yeah, he wasn't what he was in Philly. He wasn't what he was in Phoenix.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. But he was still a hell of a player.

[ISO]

And it's. It's hard, too. I don't. I don't like the comparison because Barkley is more of a. Office has an offensive presence as opposed to Draymond. So the comparison isn't even there. It makes no sense to even compare the two.

[Uncle Ocho]

But when you look at it, Uncle Ocho, Draymond won four rings, and Barkley ain't never won no rings. So he.

[Joe Johnson]

Draymond ain't a better basketball player than Charles.

[Uncle Ocho]

I agree.

[Joe Johnson]

In that first year, y' all know what Charles Barkley Average? 19 points, 13 and a half rebounds. Can I interest you in that?

[Uncle Ocho]

13 rebounds is crazy.

[Joe Johnson]

At 6 foot 4, 5, 6 and 5 or 6 people. Like I said, people don't realize. And let me tell you what happened. And I think Draymond, everything that he's been able to do, but what people have done, they've allowed rings to be the. To be the end all. Be all. And you're taking guys with rings and say, well, because he has rings, he's better than X.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no.

[ISO]

Yeah. Barkley was like that boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, like I said, people just. Like I said, I look, I know Bar. I know Chuck. And people take their shots at him. But go look at his numbers for a career.

[Uncle Ocho]

Bad boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Name another guy. No, Barkley wasn't. Barkley was 6, 4, 2, and 12. How many years he play? 16. Barkley played 16 years. How about this for a career? 22 points and 12 rebounds for a career.

[Uncle Ocho]

We a talking about no. 1.

[Joe Johnson]

16 seasons.

[Uncle Ocho]

He was bad.

[Joe Johnson]

That pretty good chat. 22 and 12.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hell, yeah. I can speak for chat. I could do that. I'm serious, man. Cause I remember. I remember. I remember arguably when he was the best player in the league. What was that? 93 when they played the Bulls.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Finals.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, if y' all don't do nothing else. Chad, if y' all don't do nothing else, go to YouTube and look up Phoenix Suns versus the Bulls in 93, bro. Now, MJ was a bad boy, you know?

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

But I think Barkley did. Barkley went MVP that year.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, he did. He beat Jordan, Bruh.

[Uncle Ocho]

The man was unreal out there. The way I. I think. Not only did he have game, but it was his attitude and his approach, his eyes.

[ISO]

Like he.

[Uncle Ocho]

He knew. He knew could nobody mess with him. And that's how he went out and played.

[Joe Johnson]

Like I said, man, look, and. And what we've done. There are guys that doesn't have rings, and then we're taking guys that have rings and say, well, they better. No, they're not.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

No, you're not. We gotta stop this.

[ISO]

But at that point, it's about understanding the game in general, outside of rings, understanding, you know, players, skill sets, what they meant during the era that they played in, how good they were.

[Joe Johnson]

But as opposed to just always having the guard. Think about who he's having to guard at six, four. He guarding guys six, nine, six, ten. At six foot four.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And holding his own.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I. I think in Draymond's defense, though, Uncle Ocho, y' all know, Barkley, he started it. You know, he.

[Joe Johnson]

Of course.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he threw it. He threw a slightest dream.

[Joe Johnson]

He told him. He said, look, it's over for y'. All. Y' all got old.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just kept it real.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. And you know, hey, Joe, they have got. No, they have

[Joe Johnson]

not, Joe. They talk about basketball reference. Talking about he's six six. Charles Barkley ain't no six six. Charles Barkley six.

[ISO]

Foe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, about six, four, six, five.

[Joe Johnson]

Maybe he not. He might. He not even that nice. He done had that hip replaced and shrunk as you get older, you know, you're straight. Yeah, but, man, y'.

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[Joe Johnson]

Y' all gotta see. And that's why we get up and say Zion, because Zion is a more explosive Charles Barkley.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, man, we were just talking about this dude today, bro. Zion How? How the. The talent that he has. And that's just. Hey, that's what we were talking about earlier in the show. You mix that talent with that damn hard work.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yes, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

That man ain't. Hey, hey, he already can't be guarded, bro. Yeah, he could be a top. He could easily. I'm saying if his mind was made up, he could easily be a top five player in this league today. Uncle Ocho, I'm talking about Zion. Easy.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, Nobody guarded. But. But I think the thing is, is that back then, those guys. Listen, he said, moses Malone. He said, Moses Malone told him, he said, charles, you got two things wrong with you. You fat and you lazy. He said. He said, mo, what I need to do, he say, we gonna lose 10 pounds. We? Hey, we ain't gonna lose it all at once.

[Uncle Ocho]

As a young guy, bro, coming into a professional sport, that's what you need. You need a veteran guy who gonna keep it 100 with you. Yeah, it ain't gonna let you slide with that bs Especially when they see how talented you are.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And they like, look, bro, if you drop 10, 15, 20 pounds, you're gonna be a bad mofo.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I just need you to lock in. And when you got guys like that, bro, that'll take your career to another level.

[Joe Johnson]

He said he got him down. He said he got him down. So he lost. He was like 290, say he got the 280, say he felt okay, you know, got the felt okay. 270 felt good. 260, say once he got to 250, he started cutting everybody ass.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ass, man.

[Joe Johnson]

And he wasn't playing.

[Uncle Ocho]

He wasn't.

[Joe Johnson]

Charles Barkley was explosive. I'm talking about Ella Duncan on Dunking on everybody.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't no way that man's supposed to be able to do a jump like that. And Zion more explosive than that. Now he can't shoot like Chuck.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cause Chuck can shoot. But as far as being explosive, having a better handle, he got out. He got all that better than Chuck. But.

[Joe Johnson]

And my problem with Zion Joe, at that size, he got to get more than five, six rebounds a game. He got to be a double double. Yeah, he got to be a double double.

[Uncle Ocho]

Too talented, too athletic, too gifted.

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[Joe Johnson]

2026 GM survey results are out. If you were starting a franchise today and you could sign any player in the WNBA, who would it be? In 2025, it was Caitlin Clark got 50. Asia Wilson got 33. In 2026. Paige Beckers get 33. Asia and Caitlyn tied for 20. And Dominique, I think this is the French woman at 13. I'm gonna say this, Joe. I followed WNBA since it came out in 1996.

[Uncle Ocho]

Me too.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm not taking a woman over Asia.

[Uncle Ocho]

Asia. No sir.

[Joe Johnson]

No. If you want. If you say okay, we're scored. Maya Morgan scored like Asia.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Thereby there might have been women that could score like Asia, Cheryl Swoops, Cynthia Cooper.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Lauren Jackson.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Rebound. Well, could she rebound like Sylvia Files? Could she rebounds like Leslie? Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Could she play defense? There's not been a woman in the WNBA that has the total package what Asia Wilson has.

[Uncle Ocho]

You're absolutely right.

[Joe Johnson]

She's led the league in scoring, she's led the league in rebounding. She's a three time defensive player of the year. She is a three time champion, a two time finals mvp, a four. No disrespect and respectfully. Cheryl Swoops, Cynthia Cooper, Lauren Jackson, Lisa Leslie, Simone, Augustus, Diana Taurasi, Maya Moore, all of them. Watched them all play.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Even in college. I'm taking Asia Wilson.

[Uncle Ocho]

Me too. Hey. Cause when you look at it, Uncle Ocho, the WNBA is not like the NBA to where you know, the NBA is perimeter oriented. You know, the wnba, if you got you a girl down there who can get something done like Asia, you play inside out, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what I mean? I mean, yeah, it's some girls in WNBA who can score, but for the most part, if you got an Asia, that's who you start in your offense with. Hell, she been impeccable. I agree with you. I agree with you. I don't know how she tied for second on this. I'm definitely starting my damn team with Asia.

[Joe Johnson]

Now look, if you're trying to sell tickets, you want endorsements, okay. But if you trying to win, ain't taking nobody over Asia. No, you crazy?

[Uncle Ocho]

Not right now.

[Joe Johnson]

Like I said, I saw them all play. I'm old enough to in college. Brianna Stewart. I ain't taking nobody over Asia.

[Uncle Ocho]

No.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell, and she should be favored to win the MVP again.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And even though she should have won Back to back MVPs, Defensive Player of the year. Nafisha call you fee. Got her.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Scoring. She could score, she could rebound, she

[Uncle Ocho]

could defend, she could pass. She could do everything. She can do everything.

[Joe Johnson]

All the Paige Beckins is unbelievable.

[Uncle Ocho]

She is.

[Joe Johnson]

I love y'. All. Hey, I love Caitlin Clark. And like I said, Maya. More Maya War went to Collins Hills in Georgia.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Knew her career. Lisa, Leslie and Coop. Coop was on that. Oh, those teams, those USC teams with the.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cheryl.

[Joe Johnson]

Cheryl. No, no, no, no, no. Not sure. Yeah, with Cheryl Miller and McGee. Yeah, Pam and Paula McGee. Yeah, she's on that team. Yeah, they won back to back 84. And then Clarissa Davis, that great Texas team.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

With 36. Zero in 1986, beat him.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So I go wave at all of. Like I said, Tina, all of them. I Debate anybody on that?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I agree.

[Joe Johnson]

Candace Parker taking. I'm taking. Candace is the only one to come in and win Rookie of the year and mvp. She was the MVP and rookie of the year in the same season and she's been a defensive player of the year and she's.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

This girl here is unbelievable.

[Uncle Ocho]

She is brought. And.

[Joe Johnson]

And like I said, I haven't seen the other. I saw Tarasi play, but to watch her play and man, and they got a. They got. And. And they got Chelsea Gray, they got the point guard and they got Jackie Young. They loaded again.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, they got a hell of a team.

[Joe Johnson]

They loaded again.

[Uncle Ocho]

They got a hell of a team.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna go see them play too. I might go see them open tonight. When they drop the battle, get the rings.

[Uncle Ocho]

When is that?

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. They get ready to play. They play Saturday. Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's open tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Do they play? I think they play open tonight. Don't they play Saturday? Opening night. Aces play Saturday home. Right? Damn. I do better play. I'm going to a game, though. I'm going to a game. I'm g. See him, huh? Overnight starts tomorrow. Yeah. And look these. Hey, and I'm so glad. These girls are making. They're making big time money now as, hey age gonna be making 1.5. These girls, the. The money is going to be flowing now. They're not gonna have to go overseas. They can stay right here, make a good living. They still have the unrivaled league. They can make it even a little bit more money. Man, Asia Wilson is good. It's. It's good. WNBA player as I've seen.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, they. They trending in the right direction. WNBA is, bro. It's going to continue to grow. Hey, look. Yeah, I told y', all, man, I got a 12 year old. I told her, hell, by the time she 18, another six years, girl, look, them girl gonna be making some real money.

[ISO]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Which player forces the opposing coaches to make the Most adjustments? In 2025, it was Asia Wilson at 33. Caitlin Clark and Brianna Stewart for 22. And this year coming up, Asia Wilson got 13. Alyssa Thompson, Phoenix. Who win the Kia. WNBA MVP. Feet. Feet. Nafisha Collier was 27%. Asia Wilson 25. Caitlin Clark 2026, Asia 60%. Brianna Stewart, 27. Now, you know she would have done to be 5.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Nafisha. Carla call you. She coming off an injury, ain't she?

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. Ankle. I think she messed up an ankle.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. She could play, though. She could play, but.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know she got some game, but Asia, I mean, different.

[Joe Johnson]

Which team will win the WNBA Finals in 2025? It was Minnesota going in New York, Indiana and Las Vegas. And then in 2026, who is it going to be? Las Vegas, 40. New York, 33. Atlanta's been getting a lot of love with Alicia Gray. And now they got Angel, Angel, Reese, and they got Ryan Howard. So. Yeah, but man, Asia, like I said, man, she was. Oh, now I used to love the comment. The comment. But the comment they had, sure and sweet. Because when they first got there, Cheryl was pregnant. Cheryl didn't come right away.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So it was. It was Coop, it was Tina Thompson and one lady. Because they won four straight titles. They want. They were. They won the first four. And. And I think, Hell, I think Coop might have been the mvp. It might have been the finals. Mvp, all of them. And she was. I think she was the first, you know, in mvp, I think two times. But boy, and she. I mean, you got to think about it, she was in her 30s.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So just imagine if she got. If, if they'd had when she was like right out of. Fresh out of college.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But this lefty with Chelsea, Jackie Young and Asia.

[Uncle Ocho]

Too much. She got. It fell, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Five MVPs. If she wins, this should be a fifth one. And what did she just turn 30?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. And you see, she just came out with that A1. That. Yeah, it's nice too.

[Joe Johnson]

She's 29. We should be 30. August. Yeah, she'd be. She'd be 30th August.

[ISO]

What's the A. What's the A1? Joe Hushu.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Shoe. She just came out. She's came out with a shoe with Nike. It's nice.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[ISO]

Yeah.

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[Joe Johnson]

it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. All right, before we get to the super chats, we got 44 video voicemail. Let's take a listen, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

They call this the BS call on LeBron pushing Caruso down. You know, the next play they call a little Mickey Mouse car for Mitch. They make the game unwatchable. I ain't gonna lie.

[ISO]

Like, hey, is it just me?

[Uncle Ocho]

Like, do y' all thank that or what?

[ISO]

But appreciate y', all, you know, all

[Uncle Ocho]

the way from Alexander, Louisiana. Here. Got that good scan going on. Got that Hawk pack ISO, you know what I'm saying?

[ISO]

All right.

[Uncle Ocho]

It was signed Ocho.

[ISO]

You know I'm saying my birthday twin

[Joe Johnson]

be tripping with that strapping, though. Appreciate it. Yeah. Nah, bro, it's not just you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Bad.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Yeah. I think there are a lot of people that thought. Thought they was on some bullshit tonight. Caught a lot of ticky tack stuff.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, that's the rest control in the game, bro. They gotta. They gotta chill with all that, man. Yeah, boy. Say, yo, that's coming over there.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, let's take. Let's take a listen at the next one.

[ISO]

Hey, boys, tell me a game that you want to go back in time

[Joe Johnson]

to where you can't do nothing different but just relive the moment.

[ISO]

What big game is that? All right, let us know.

[Joe Johnson]

First super bowl for me.

[Uncle Ocho]

First super bowl for you, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[ISO]

Trying to think, what moment would I love to relive?

[Uncle Ocho]

It would be my fifth game, my Rookie year and I playing against mj, bro, I'm. I'm keeping real with y'.

[Sponsor Voice 1]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

It was a. Oh, he's in Washington then, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

He was in Washington, but I was in all. You know, him and Twan, him, Antoine Walker was talking to each other the entire game because, you know, they were super close. They. Super close, man. They talk smack, and I'm the one guarding him. But I just relished that moment, bro. I enjoy it so much that I still watch it from time to time.

[Joe Johnson]

How many points you score, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

I had 16 points, 10 rebounds as a rookie.

[Joe Johnson]

Ball. You got busy on him? You got busy on him, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir. You know, hey, you know, as a rookie, they don't respect you, bro. He wasn't respecting me.

[Joe Johnson]

He. He was.

[Uncle Ocho]

I was his assignment. But, you know, he was like. He was playing free safety off me. Like, we gonna make this rookie. We gonna make this rookie make a couple shots. I was tan his ass up, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, so that's why you want to go back and live that game. Oh, what game? You going back just to rel. You can't change the outcome. You just want to relive that moment.

[ISO]

Hey, you know what them back to back weeks when we played the Charges and the Saints did? I'm gonna do two game back to back weeks. So one, the first game, I had 260. In the next game, I had 190.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Huh? You were cutting rug, weren't you?

[ISO]

Hey, I don't know what the hell I. I don't know what the hell I had before them games.

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, you know what you have?

[ISO]

Oh, yeah, just a little half a pill of Viagra. Just half a pill? Yeah, yeah, I. Yeah, I had. Damn it down there, 500 yards. I mean, I could have relaxed the rest of the season and still hit a thousand. Yeah, but I'm. Two games. That was. That was something, that boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Let's take a listen to the next one.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's up, Night Cap?

[Joe Johnson]

Nightcap crew with all the people that

[Uncle Ocho]

run Nightcap behind the scenes. Just want to say God bless you.

[Joe Johnson]

Hope all is well with your house. I get that out the way.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, man, Walmart driver here, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I just want to piggyback what you said Tuesday night, Joe, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Brunson, the Knicks win the championship, I think. Yeah, he'll be on the Mount Lunchmore. And that's why it gets me upset that KD and Kyrie didn't go to New York.

[Joe Johnson]

You know how big that would have been for New York if them Two played there for one. Brooklyn was cool, but they had played in one. They don't know what.

[Uncle Ocho]

What they missed.

[Joe Johnson]

I know Dolan was with Dolan, but, man, they really messed up an opportunity of being. What an amazing team.

[Uncle Ocho]

Anyway, God bless you guys.

[Joe Johnson]

Love the show, love Nightcap.

[Uncle Ocho]

Have a good one. Hey, thank you. Them dudes want to control, bro. They knew going to the Knicks, hell, they weren't gonna be able to have no control. They weren't gonna be able to run that thing how they wanted to. Right?

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. But, boy, listen, if Kyrie and KD would have went to the Knicks. Okay, Ojo.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And you think about it. Kyrie likes being different. Kyrie Buck marches to the beat of his own drum.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

KD like being different because think about where Katie went. Katie went to Golden State. Nobody in basketball thought he would end up there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

Kyrie, great situation with LeBron. He won't stop. I want to do my own thing. I don't want to do what y' all want me to do, kd. I don't want to go where y' all want me to go. I want to go where I want to go.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right, right.

[Joe Johnson]

But I could. Can you imagine the Garden with those two guys?

[ISO]

That would have been nasty.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, my God.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, they tore it down,

[Joe Johnson]

huh? That was it. Oh, Joe, we ain't talking about it. You know, OG looking like he got a strained hamstring.

[Uncle Ocho]

OG do well. Y' all know what that meant? I'm straining hamstrings, bro. I don't. I. He. Damn. How much tape you put on it? It ain't. Hey, you got to sit down with that.

[Joe Johnson]

Didn't he have a. Didn't he hurt his hamstring last year? Late. Didn't they play. Who did they? They played Indiana. I think he hurt his hamstring last year.

[Uncle Ocho]

He probably may have did. He may have. Did.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but didn't he hurt his hamstring last year against Indy?

[Uncle Ocho]

Let me see.

[Joe Johnson]

Chad, didn't he hurt his hamstring against his. His. Against Indy last year?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey. Cause if he out, Uncle Ocho, that's he. I mean. Cause he been so consistent.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

This whole postseason. That's gonna hurt the Knicks, bro. That's gonna hurt them.

[Joe Johnson]

Two years ago. Was it two years ago? Okay. Yeah. Okay. I thought so.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

JW Akron ISO. You must choose one fade put on Ocho. Tyson versus Burbick. You knock him silly and he cased. He can't stand it. Falling or Drago beat down. Where you gotta. Yeah. Ash throwing the damn towel.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on. He said, what was the first one again?

[Joe Johnson]

You gotta put. You put the fade on Ocho. So you gonna be Tyson versus Burbick. You knock him silly and he keeps standing, but he falling. Drago beat down with. Gotta yell Ash throwing the towel.

[Uncle Ocho]

What I'm gonna do to Ojo?

[Joe Johnson]

Drago was doing the Rocky where he told him, throwing the towel or we're trying. The Typhoon hit Trevor Burbank. Yeah, he said Tyson said he wanted to make him pay because that was the last man to be Ali.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, that's how I said you wanted

[Joe Johnson]

to make him pay.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's how I'll make his ass pay for all that talking he doing. And I know. I know Chat. I know. Chad want to see it? Chad, I got y'. All. Hey, it's. It's gonna be a show. You hear me? That's all it's gonna be.

[ISO]

Let me tell you something. Hey, he ain't gonna be able to get through this defense, huh? I' ma sit. Hey, Joe, I'm gonna sit there right in your face, like, where I could. I could reach out and touch you. Like, touch your nose, and I' ma let you throw every punch. I'm blocking everything. You hear me, Joe? I'm. I'm blocking it. I ain't even gonna move. I'm gonna just sit there nice and calm and relax. I'm gonna parry everything you throw.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, you ever. You ever seen people do this? You ever see. Oh, you ever see people do this?

[Joe Johnson]

You too small.

[Uncle Ocho]

His ass too damn little.

[ISO]

Hey, that don't any about size at that point. Joe won't be fighting.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe.

[ISO]

I'll be fighting. I'll be fighting. Or we wrestling. Which one we doing?

[Uncle Ocho]

It don't matter here. You gonna lose in both.

[ISO]

No, no, no, no. Joe. Anything coming from the shoulders. Boy, you dead in the water. Boy.

[Joe Johnson]

You.

[ISO]

You in no man's land with me, man. Stop playing, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oo for you to even get a link in, bro, you got to take two of these. Two, three of these just to even get in there.

[ISO]

Joe, I'm. I'm slipping everything. I'm slipping everything you throw. Joe, I'm coming in there. I'm coming in there sliding, moving Joe and sticking. Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[ISO]

I' ma talk. I' ma talk to you while I'm dodging punches.

[Uncle Ocho]

And I know they right out bad, too. Well, I'm gonna do a number on that.

[ISO]

Hey, don't. Don't worry. Don't worry about that. Right out.

[Joe Johnson]

What's up, Ocho? ISO not much. Not much to say, but Dean Wade is entirely too sorry on defense and down to scores in the fourth. And Donovan doesn't touch the ball. Nixon mixing Granny needs assistance. Pistons and four.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah,

[ISO]

they out of there, huh? You ain't gonna get one game.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, they better get this. Game three.

[Uncle Ocho]

I give them one.

[ISO]

They don't get game three. It's a rap, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

I give them one. I give them one.

[Joe Johnson]

Gold standard says UNC. Think LeBron is the GOAT. Laugh my ass off. Michael Jordan is the growth, bro. We different. We disagree. The only ID ISO. Pay the man. Pay that man. Ocho. You know how it goes. You can't pay up. Gotta put it on the floor.

[Uncle Ocho]

Pistons and four, don't put it on the floor. I ain't paying nothing.

[ISO]

Hey, hey. Matter of fact, I'm glad you just reminded me, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. He owe you five, he owe you seven. He owes you.

[ISO]

He owe me that 500. What?

[Joe Johnson]

He owe you 700. Cause you had two games, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. Put it in. Put it in your notes as a reminder. I don't give a damn what you do.

[ISO]

Hey, listen, listen. All you doing is making it work for yourself, man. Hey, you first. You were gonna be 6ft. Now you're gonna be 12 with me.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

All right. Yeah. I want to see this. I want to see it. I want to see it. Yeah.

[ISO]

All right. Don't worry about it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. See? Smack them boys up. Smack them boys. Thunder up. Yeah, man, it ain't looking good. We ain't looking good. We're gonna have to play. We're gonna have to play a perfect ball game and still OKC gonna need to be off for the Lakers to get a game, guys. But we're gonna get a game. We gonna get a game. What's up, Doc? Here. Ocho. ISO Braun can't go out like this. We need Magic or something. Running 20 points off turnovers is embarrassing.

[Uncle Ocho]

It is. Yeah. Them turnovers on kids.

[Joe Johnson]

It's already a tough assignment to beat them. Joey, when you turning the ball over,

[Uncle Ocho]

that's when they thrive, though. That's. That's what they defense is. Is. Is built to do. It's built to make you turn that damn ball over. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

What are they doing it, man? No, sga Reeves came to play. Shay, you okay? Thunder and poor. No,

[Uncle Ocho]

you are. Hey, you all right, y'.

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[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all still got two games at home. You good, you good.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm going to see that Monday game.

[Uncle Ocho]

We game four. I hope it ain't no elimination.

[ISO]

Don't don't. Don't do it. Just save your money.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm go. I'm leaving the third quarter because we got the show, so I got to get back now.

[ISO]

Just save your money, though. Save your money.

[Joe Johnson]

Some nachos. I'm gonna give you some. Some chicken. I'm gonna get my money's worth.

[Uncle Ocho]

But what.

[Joe Johnson]

But what.

[Uncle Ocho]

What if the game really good, though.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm leaving at third. I gotta get a job to do.

[ISO]

Hey, hey, save your money, man. Don't. Don't do it to yourself, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah.

[Joe Johnson]

As a matter of fact, Ocho, I need that. You say case of emergency. I need that 5,900.

[ISO]

Well, listen, if you go. If I'm gonna see that 5,900, you're gonna. And you're gonna spend that 5,900 to go watch the Lakers lose. I mean, I don't. That's a horrible.

[Joe Johnson]

Why this man worried about what I'm gonna do with the money and what

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm saying how the man started pressing me by 700 and the man owe 5,900. God damn.

[ISO]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, hey, Joe. Stand in child's place, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn that. Oh, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn that.

[ISO]

When grown folks talking standard child.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn that. That's why. Hey, I'm keeping my money in my pocket.

[ISO]

That's okay.

[Joe Johnson]

I want.

[ISO]

I want you to keep it in your pocket, right? And you're gonna be. And you're gonna be Dragonfly Jones. And I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be the student. I'm gonna take it right out your pocket. Don't worry about it.

[Joe Johnson]

I've never been the type to say this, but the ref tried to send LeBron a message. This their league. They kill the momentum every time. I mean, LeBron ain't getting no 5 me that filed by Jalen Williams. And then they come down the other end and they get a call to Shay. I can understand why it's frustrating.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Big Mike, Ocho Joe. Let's see. You gotta start. Bench, cut. You got a Rolex. You got ap. You got Richard Mill. Start, bench, cut, cut.

[ISO]

I'm starting no matter what.

[Uncle Ocho]

You starting to roll it.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely timeless.

[ISO]

Absolutely iconic.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, okay, so. Oo. Starting to rolly. I'm getting the bench.

[ISO]

I'm benching to Richard, Millie, Richard, Mil. You know, I. I got. Yeah, I got. Yeah, I'm a cut. I'm cut ap. You know, Damn. I got one of each of those, so.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, Joe, what you got? I'm starting my.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm starting my ap.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Benching my role in. I'm cutting the Richard.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, right.

[ISO]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. I got a nice. I got a nice Richie. Richie Mills. 6701. Yeah, real thin.

[Uncle Ocho]

Bad boy nasty.

[Joe Johnson]

You got that. You got that new bubble. Wasa hell no.

[ISO]

Who the hell. I came the hell the hell, baby.

[Uncle Ocho]

Look, that bubble. Watch it up.

[ISO]

That about 500,000, I think.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, a protector there?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hell no, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Please, man. You see that one, that new Protect that Corey Gamble got Chris Jenner boyfriend.

[ISO]

It was 5 million, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

That Joe got everything. Hey, he got a. I don't know.

[ISO]

It's only.

[Joe Johnson]

It's only one person.

[ISO]

Jay Z. Him and Jay Z.

[Joe Johnson]

The only person I know two people, they got a watch collection. Mark Wahlberg.

[ISO]

Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

Jay Z. Yeah, I know a couple Mark Wahlberg got. Got one of the most impressive. Kevin Hart got a very impressive one. Kevin Hart Khaled got an impressive one.

[Uncle Ocho]

Braun got a nice one too, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Brian got. Well, yeah. Sliced alone. Sylvester.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But Protect took him out because he sold one of his. They put it in auction and he sold it, so they took him off the list.

[ISO]

Damn. You got a. Kevin Hart got a nasty.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Kevin's an AP guy. Kev got a lot of aps.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

What you call him Guy? I mean, Mark Wahlberg, he got AP Paddock Rollies.

[Uncle Ocho]

They can. Hey, hey. Because they work. They work. They. They'll never devalue.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You want. Once you get a. An ad. Once you get in good with an ad, because. And plus, all those guys get off catalog because there's some. Some models they don't even put. Only their VIP clients will get access to. Yeah, and so Wahlberg and Hove and those guys, they're gonna get access to those models.

[ISO]

But, man, hey, well, we need to be part of that AP Rolex.

[Joe Johnson]

What else? See, the thing is, I didn't understand that early on, so I just bought like, you know, I didn't really go to an ad. Authorized dealer.

[ISO]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, somebody's like, hey, man, I got this a. I would just buy it. I didn't know. Yeah, it's not like Louis Vuitton. Like, if you buy Louis Vuitton, no matter where you bought it, I'm in the system. Started. I think I bought my first piece in 91.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Piece of luggage and, you know, more luggage. Got my sister piece of luggage and duffel bags and garment bags and big time suitcases. And so over the years. And so no, I Got, I got a pretty good relationship with Louis Vuitton, but I don't have that type of relationship with, with none of the dealers. I mean, I would like to get a Richard Mille or a Masha, Ron Constantine.

[ISO]

I mean, hey, that's, that's what we got to show for. We have a platform we can voice. We can voice what we want. And then, you know, you know, my grandma always said, man, you know, the tongue is powerful.

[Uncle Ocho]

Speaking into existence, you got to speak it.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I'd like to have a better. I like to have a relationship with Patek, A.P. vacheron, F.P. jordan, Richard Mill. Anything else we leave out on your roll it.

[ISO]

Hey, that's, that's about it. That's about it. Hey, I, I, I want a yacht. I want a super yacht. Mega yacht.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, no.

[ISO]

So any, any companies out there wanna, you know, wanna work with your boy? Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Boat. You know what a boat stand for? Bust out another thousand because that's a bottom. That's a money pit. That is a money pit.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah, it is.

[Joe Johnson]

Gregory, go grab McCann. Might be the biggest deal I can ever remember. Thanks, Sixers.

[Uncle Ocho]

McCain, McCain.

[Joe Johnson]

But the thing is, Joe, I mean, so you, you want to give you, you. Would you take McCain over maxi?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I think.

[Joe Johnson]

And BJ Edgecombe.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's, it's the role that he's playing in now with okc. People want them to play their role in Philly coming off the bench being that spark plug. You just got too many young guys, bro. They weren't going to do that.

[Joe Johnson]

No. And, and I like that. Don't stash the man. Let the man go somewhere he can play. And then guess what? He played well there and can build up his thing and go and go get a starting role and make some money.

[Uncle Ocho]

There you go.

[Joe Johnson]

This game wasn't rigged. Don't call it rig. When LA was clearly getting their behinds busted by okc. See, yeah, yeah, they, they lost. But I thought, I think you, I think you think so. I think you think too. Some of those calls were ticky tack calls.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It might not have even impacted the game. Daniel Wells, people killed me saying pro sports are all rigged. Y' all really think these guys work as hard as they do to let someone tell them to miss a shop or drop a, drop a pass?

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah. What? Said you got Ojo.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that the AP or Richard Mill?

[ISO]

Ap.

[Uncle Ocho]

Is it ap.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you got it. You just got an ap.

[Uncle Ocho]

He got. Oh, that mug. Nasty.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man. I had one, man. One of my house Got broken into. I had one. They only made 75 of them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man, don't tell me, don't tell me, don't tell me.

[ISO]

And you still ain't get it back.

[Joe Johnson]

I didn't get it back. I ain't got none of it back. And the problem, the thing was. Oh, show some of the watches. I mean since I was probably my first, like my fourth year in the league.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So that's what you know, you. Hey, I ain't got the money. How the money like I had.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And so it meant something because I gotta save up. I like, man, I want that. I want that. I want this day date or I want this X, Y and Z.

[ISO]

Right, Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

One day. Who's winning the. Who's winning a dance battle? Michael Jackson or Chris Brown? Chris Brown stole all Mike moves and.

[ISO]

But still, still two completely type of dancers though stylistically. Two completely different type of dances. I. I mean I. Obviously I'm a dancer, Unc. So just the comparison is. It's. I understand it. But Chris Brown and the way Michael Jackson dances are completely, completely different because

[Joe Johnson]

Chris can do all Mike's move. Mike ain't doing that jumping and stuffing with Chris Brown. But ain't nobody ever that walked this earth gonna be big as that guy.

[ISO]

No, impossible. It's impossible.

[Uncle Ocho]

Most y.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, see f. OKC got alum first round picks on the squad. They stack top to bottom. They do. They've done a great job. Sam Preston's done an unbelievable job. And he. He might go down. Cuz you look at from Kevin Garnett to Westbrook to James Harden to. To making the trade for Shay and the all the J dub and the chance and the this and than that. He gonna be one of the best.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir, he one of the best. He is, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

From Africa. The question is, Keanu Reeves, do you think the Lakers need OO to save these series? I don't know if o. I don't know if OO can help him.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

No refs cheated us tonight. The refs needs to be investigated. I don't know. I mean I don't know if it might have been closer, but I don't know if the Laker. Like I said, Laker had to play perfect.

[Uncle Ocho]

And they. Hey look, they were playing pretty good balls. They were, they were. They were playing pretty good ball. I mean. Cause here, like I said, I always think when they get down double figures, it's hard for them to fight back because they ain't got the firepower. But they did that tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

They did.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I am almighty James. Two times. All that arguing over a front seat, I would have told both of their ass to get in the back. Now my mom already be in the backseat. She already be. I'm like, damn. Well, I don't like to be late. I know how you are. Yeah, you right. You are absolutely right. Jordan and Kobe fans have been secretly hoping that LeBron don't get the fifth or sixth ring for at least a decade now. It will end the argument. There's enough room for everybody. Look, everybody can be great. They just. They're great in different ways. Kobe is more like Jordan and that's okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Is a passer. He's more like Magic.

[Uncle Ocho]

But who can score physically?

[Joe Johnson]

Kobe is more styled like Jordan and LeBron is more like Magic.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Stylistically, it's okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

What's up, y'?

[Uncle Ocho]

All?

[Joe Johnson]

Name a better dancing trio than MC Hammer. MJ Turbo from Breaking.

[ISO]

Hey, Turbo.

[Uncle Ocho]

Turbo was hard, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

And breaking classic Turbo. What about Boogaloo?

[ISO]

Shrimpaloo? Hey, that's throwback, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

That's super throwback, man. Hammer boy. Don't hurt him. Hamilton's still cutting up while y' all playing. I saw a video a couple of months ago about Hammer was rehearsing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey,

[Joe Johnson]

who like the pumps in the book?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Ammo. Hamill. Big time, bro.

[ISO]

Oh, yeah. Have you seen.

[Uncle Ocho]

You've seen her?

[ISO]

Big time. Big time.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Stop. Hammertime. Hammer stay at the hotel. We. As a matter of fact, that was my rookie year. We played in la and Hammer and team, they was performing. They stayed at the hotel. So Hammer and not Hammer, but his brother and a couple of the guys within. Melvin Bratton. They knew Fat Cat and they was. They came down, man. That was bad. What's up? Oh, Cho and ISO. ISO. Can you put together an all time international team to go against the 92 Dream Team? You can coach. So how would they attack them? Hold on. No, no, no. Yeah, but you talk about. You got to realize those guys were old. If I take the 92 Dream Team and put them in their prime in 92, ain't nobody beating them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hell no. They had. They didn't have no weaknesses. They had everything you could think of from facilitators. The scores to defenders, shot blockers.

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[Uncle Ocho]

That's when you had real centers in the NBA, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Forwards, man, please.

[Joe Johnson]

But I guess your international team, who you gonna put? You put Jokic, Giannis, Luca,

[Uncle Ocho]

man, just think, then the boy gonna be dealing with David Robinson.

[Joe Johnson]

Patrick, Patrick, Jordan, Pip.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's just

[Joe Johnson]

Barkley. Malone, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

What?

[ISO]

They ain't gonna be able to do nothing but that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Them real power forwards and centers, bro. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I got into a car accident with a lady that was touching herself while driving. What? She came out of nowhere.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

How you know that?

[ISO]

I like that. I like that.

[Uncle Ocho]

What'd you like, Ojo?

[ISO]

I mean, she was adventurous.

[Uncle Ocho]

Adventurous?

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Sound like it was dangerous to me.

[ISO]

I mean, adventurous.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you get what? Oh, she came out of nowhere.

[ISO]

Hey, that was a good one. Hey, that was slick. That was.

[Joe Johnson]

He got all of.

[ISO]

Hey, see, everybody.

[Joe Johnson]

Everybody, hold on. Wait a minute.

[ISO]

Everybody been hitting. Everybody be hitting the jokes. Yeah, that was a smooth one.

[Joe Johnson]

But, nah, I saw. Now, that happened one time. I was. I was on. I was 85. I was going back home, Joe. I was probably running. I was probably running 90. And I see this light.

[ISO]

I'm like.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm looking. I look down at my screen. I'm like, I'm going 90. You way back there. What you flashing for? She flashed. She hit me like three times, Joe. I moved over. This lady

[Uncle Ocho]

no, gone, man. Get out of here.

[Joe Johnson]

Gone with your bad self out of there, huh? I say, baby. I say speed on. Hell ain't full yet. They taking reservations.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. She. Hey, broad daylight. She hit them lights. I'm like, what? I'm. Look, I'm going 90. What you mean you ain't up on. Man, that lady got up on me so damn quick, y', all, man, she's like, at me.

[ISO]

What she. What she was driving, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Porsche. Oh, that's okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

A hell of a drug.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, no show. What are the play call? She'd explain to me in football, ISO, what are the adjustments, like during the playoffs and how does coach make. How does the coach make them?

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, in the playoffs, in the NBA playoffs, it depends on what's killing you. Like, if you got a guy who's great in pick and roll, okay? Damn. He running the pick and roll. He kind of get. He kind of get what he want. Every time he runs it. Then that's when you start throwing that trap on his ass. We trap him, make him get up, you know, or mix up the coverages, I don't think. Especially the great players in this league, you give them a steady diet of the same defensive coverages, they're gonna pick your ass apart. Gotta mix it up.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, you gotta play. But Kyle, call. She works. Okay, you got first down plays. You got first and 10 plays, so you might got 15 of those, okay? Now you got second and one to three. You got second and five to 10. And then you got third and one to three, you got third, three to five, you got third and long and you got. Okay, you got red zone plays, you got gold to go plays, you got backed up plays. So a call sheet might have between 100 and 150 plays on it.

[ISO]

And there's, and there's always got. I call got to have it plays, right? Yeah, that you wait in special moments towards the end of the game where you just got to have it. A play that you haven't run, a wrinkle that they haven't seen, something that you haven't shown on film, but you got to have it in that one moment. You got to have that play. You got about two or three of those on that call sheet and you don't go to it unless you really, really need it towards the end of a game.

[Joe Johnson]

You got four, you probably got three or four fourth down plays. You got a couple of gadget plays.

[ISO]

Yeah. Oh yeah. You always got about one or two gadget plays.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you got a reverse or you got a fake, a flea flicker. So. The man, the man killed zone. LeBron and AR are gonna have to score between 90 and 100 points combined for the Lakers to win.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, real talk though. In order for the Lakers to win, they both gonna have to be at least close to 30. If not 30, I'm talking about.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, they're gonna need somewhere between 50 and 60 between the two of them for sure.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. At a high efficiency rate.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And then you gotta get, you gotta get some great productivity from Aiden. You're gonna need at least.

[Joe Johnson]

We need, we need Rui to keep doing what he doing because Ruigo can give you about 20. Marcus Smart need to play Marcus Martin need to have a game like he had against Houston, one of those first three games. First three games against Houston and Luke Canard need to chip in and do what Luke Canard is capable of doing.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know.

[ISO]

He's got to play like he played tonight.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know if Marcus Smart can have that type of game because his damn hands so full offensively dealing with Shay.

[ISO]

You defensively.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Brandon Kyle is the straw that broke the camel's back when it comes to Harden. Cals brought him in to get over the hump because Darius Garland couldn't. Cavs might blow this up.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I agree, I agree.

[Joe Johnson]

But you got decided. Why? Because you gave up Garland, who you had under contract for another two to three years. James Harden left the Clippers because He wanted a two year extension and they like. Nah, because giving you a two year extension don't kill it. Get us closer to where we need to be.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I think it'll definitely be hard to let him go because. Because you did trade Garland. But damn, Unc. Oo. If you get swept in this series. I don't know. I mean, you. You got to re. Evaluate some things.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Talk about the better game tonight. Much love Detroit. Detroit. You must be. Came in late, bro. We talked about how Cade. Every big shot they needed to make down the stretch, him and Tobias Harris answer the bail.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

y' all the same one that told us that told the sun stop crying about the ref when they lost the okc. Now y' all crying about the Lakers using. He. He's 41. Well, tell him to retire. Stop making excuses. Down 13 with SJO on the bench.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, listen, OKC is a great team.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

SGA just leading the charge. But damn it, they pretty damn good without him. If you just want me to keep it. 100, 1000. They got a great system. They got a great system, and those guys thrive in that system.

[Joe Johnson]

Tobias got Unc Hills now. Spider shook it. Yeah, that was. That was. That was pretty nat. That was pretty nasty. I was like, damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. You know it's bad when you get set out like that and then you go to grabbing that injury, you can't get right up because normally, hey, when a guy make you fall like that, you want to pop right on up.

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

The longer you stay down, the worse it is.

[Joe Johnson]

And they keep replaying it to try to find out what happened, man. Don't show it. I'm okay. Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey. Hey. Donovan got a mean in and out game, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think trading Garland was a mistake for them, Joe. You think that was a mistake?

[Uncle Ocho]

He couldn't stay healthy, man.

[Joe Johnson]

They.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, hell, they always, man. Yeah, they couldn't stay healthy, and they never had any playoff success. So at some point, you knew you can't. You could kind of see that they was gonna get rid of them.

[Joe Johnson]

I know another guy that can't stay healthy. But you say they should stay on him. Who?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, Joel.

[Joe Johnson]

You. He playing tomorrow, Joe?

[ISO]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he probably.

[ISO]

Yeah, yeah, he playing tomorrow.

[Uncle Ocho]

Probably will.

[Joe Johnson]

How? What? They list Joel as

[Uncle Ocho]

Philly win the game. I seen Gilly today. You know, we had the. The big three combine today. Gilly out there. I. I don't. Listen, I don't know if Gilly really trying to get picked up by nobody on the big three, but I think he just love hooping and competing. Like, for him his age to be out there is good to see. But, you know, he a die hard Philly fan, and he says six is gonna win tomorrow.

[Joe Johnson]

The Goat.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, keep going. That man ain't talking about nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm not saying Kobe was asked to do what Brian was asked to do, but Kobe did lead the Lakers in assist, not D. Fish, check the number. Pull up. But if. You're not saying. If you. But you can't say that because you can't say Kobe wasn't asked to do what LeBron was asked to do. I mean, because think about it. Draymond normally lead the. The warriors in assist.

[ISO]

You got got. You got Steph, baby Khaled.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all talking some ish, fellas. Cade is different for sure. Who y' all like in the East?

[Uncle Ocho]

I told y', all I got. I got the Pistons coming out of ease.

[ISO]

Shoot. I said. I said the goddamn next man, it's gonna be.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I don't know. Without OG Philly might get back in this thing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Got a point.

[Joe Johnson]

Get back in this thing. OG Without OG Hey, Nick's played him on, and he was scoring at a. At a great level.

[Uncle Ocho]

You were.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, fam. Watching from Houston, it's my birthday, and I'd love to get a shout out from my favorite big three things. My grandma taught me if a woman would never tell her weight, income, or age, bring nightcap to H town. We don't bite. Oh, but we had fun. I mean, hey, oh, Joe, that thing was nice. Now.

[ISO]

Oh, wait. And the one in Houston.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO]

Hey, boy. Hey, they don't owe me nothing, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, but why y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Uncle Ocho]

Why y' all so scared to go back, though, man?

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, stop, man. You know why.

[Uncle Ocho]

I just keep it 100, man. Yeah, the people want to see y', all, man.

[ISO]

Man, I'm married, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, here he go now. He married.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all see me? How y' all doing?

[ISO]

I'm married.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, we gotta tie.

[ISO]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

The tide was had in Atlanta and in Houston.

[ISO]

Yeah, I'm gonna go back there. We need to go back to area I need to take. I gotta take on Area 29, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Lord.

[ISO]

I mean. I mean, just. Just use your visual. Just use your peripheral vision. You could just look straight ahead. Just you wear some sunglasses.

[Joe Johnson]

We gotta take. We gotta. How much we gotta take in there, Ocho?

[ISO]

What money? Yeah, and we ain't gotta take nothing. They'll give it to us.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, Joe, you got. You got to spend a little something, Joe.

[ISO]

They gonna give us the money, I'm telling you.

[Joe Johnson]

How's the food, boy?

[ISO]

The food good, huh? I get. I get the shrimp pasta.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh. Oh. You're gonna have to take at least 2500 in the.

[Joe Johnson]

I could do that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you're gonna take at least. At least 2500.

[ISO]

Now, I just told you they gonna give us money on the house. And you steady telling the man to take money.

[Uncle Ocho]

I wouldn't believe none. Ocho say we guess, but they.

[ISO]

They did it for me.

[Uncle Ocho]

They still want your money. I don't give a damn. Cause you a guess or not.

[ISO]

Nah, I ain't had to pay none. It's just that the Area 29 is like that. It's about hospitality for guests.

[Uncle Ocho]

They in there.

[ISO]

They know how to treat people.

[Uncle Ocho]

They in there like that. They like that in there. Well, who in Area 21?

[ISO]

Shoot. Boy, I tell you. Ray Charles walking. That Betty can see. Hey, I. I bet. I bet he can see.

[Joe Johnson]

The Cowboys will be competitive this season. Not saying we're gonna win, but we'll be legit. Winning the divisional round, getting to the NFC Championship in 2027. Ocho, what's up? They're gonna be legit. Who?

[Uncle Ocho]

Cowboys.

[Joe Johnson]

Cowboys?

[ISO]

Yeah, They're. They're gonna be all right. They gonna be all right.

[Uncle Ocho]

I appreciate that, you know.

[ISO]

Hey, listen, I ain't gonna say nothing bad. I like what they did in the draft. I like what he did in the off season. All right?

[Uncle Ocho]

We appreciate that, bro. We thought you were gonna be a. A big hater, bro.

[ISO]

You know, I ain't no hater, Joe. I'm honest.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay?

[ISO]

Honest. That's one thing about him. I'm honest.

[Uncle Ocho]

We appreciate that, bro. We appreciate that.

[Joe Johnson]

Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. The Pistons take a 2. 0 lead, 107 and 97 over the Cavaliers. Tobias Harrison, Cade Cunningham were sensational down the stretch. Uh, The Lakers go to 02, but they go home for the next two games. The next game will be Saturday. Uh, they lose this game 125 to 107. Lost it by the same margin on one. What was it? 120 to 102 last game, but they're down oh two. So are the Cavaliers. They'll see if they can go home and get some home cooking. Cooking. And flip this series. These series around. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. And there is my partner, Liberty City Zone, a former Bingo. He's a ring of Fame Honoree Pro.

[ISO]

I'm the ISO. I'm the ISO Slayer.

[Joe Johnson]

What The ISO Slayer.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey watch your mouth partner. Watch your mouth.

[Joe Johnson]

Chad Ocho Seco Johnson and the third member of the Big three is a seven type NBA All Star. He's known as ISO from the Atlanta Hawks. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by Laportier head over to laportiercognac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is the best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market and it drinks like an XO. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Again, the Pistons 107, the Cavaliers 97 as the Pistons go up 2 0. Next game Saturday in Cleveland OKC go up 2 oh 125 to 107. The next game is Saturday in the crib. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you back tomorrow night. Peace.

[Uncle Ocho]

Peace out,

[Joe Johnson]

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