Nightcap Hour 2: Eagles TRADE FOR Jaelen Phillips + Time TO TRADE Ja Morant + Hawks Executive’s FIANCE STEALING MONEY

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2

Episode: Eagles TRADE FOR Jaelen Phillips + Time TO TRADE Ja Morant + Hawks Executive’s FIANCE STEALING MONEY
Date: November 4, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe (w/ Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson)
Podcast: Club Shay Shay – iHeartPodcasts & Shay Shay Media

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Nightcap" with Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson dives into some of the most explosive stories in sports, including rumors around Ja Morant’s future with the Memphis Grizzlies, an in-depth discussion about a major fraud case inside the Atlanta Hawks’ front office, and candid takes on NFL quarterback value and team management. True to form, the conversation is funny, insightful, and filled with memorable banter.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Nightcap Mid-Season NFL Awards (02:45)

• Shannon announces the upcoming "Nightcap Awards," encouraging fans to vote on MVP and other season honors across social media. Both he and Ocho will also issue their own awards.
• Notable quote:
  “Young Bull of the year, Still Him Player of the Year. It all starts tomorrow…” – Shannon Sharpe (02:52)

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2. The Ja Morant Situation – Is It Time for a Trade? (04:08)

• Shannon shares Morant’s recent frustration with the Memphis Grizzlies and relays Ja’s open lack of “joy” with the team.
• Chad claims inside knowledge, stating Miami is actively working to acquire Ja Morant, citing conversations with Pat Riley and Mickey Arison. He is confident the move is likely and believes Morant needs new scenery.
• Shannon raises concerns over Morant’s injury and off-court issues, highlighting the risk of investing $300M in him.
  • "I'm talking about the same Ja Morant that's been hurt the last two years and had issues off the court? …They're not tying up $300 million in nobody with that. That's a red flag." – Shannon Sharpe (07:44)
• Both agree Morant’s high-flying, above-the-rim style makes him injury-prone; maybe a new environment would help, but Miami's strict culture might not be ideal for him.
• Chad: “We want Ja to reach his full potential, to maximize everything, and he can do that right here in Miami.” (16:20)
• Playful back-and-forth about Miami’s temptations and whether Morant’s family presence would fit with Pat Riley’s structured system.

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3. Atlanta Hawks Embezzlement Scandal (17:46)

• Shannon details the case of Hawks exec Lester Jones, indicted for embezzling $3.8M over years—claims included a fake $230K hotel bill, lavish trips, and purchasing luxury goods and travel.
• Chad’s reaction: Focus on the madness of risking a great position for fleeting status—“Do those that do crimes understand that there’s no way out of that? It's not worth it… What are you trying to prove?” (19:51)
• Highlights the social media-driven pressure to live extravagantly even when it's unsustainable.
  • “Social media is not reality. That’s not real life. And the fact that people try to maintain an image is really scary...” – Chad Johnson (21:50)
• Shannon echoes Chad’s sentiments, stressing it’s OK to “live a normal life.”
  • “You are who you are, you got what you got … it’s OK. I live how I live.” – Shannon Sharpe (22:36)
• The fraud’s fallout: Both agree the exec will be unemployable in sports finance, querying, “Who was he trying to impress?” and speculating much of the spending was likely to impress a woman (30:54).

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4. Value vs. Image – Living Below Your Means (31:21)

• Both men conduct a masterclass in practical financial advice, drawing from personal experience.
  • Chad: “My grandma say all the time—a fool and his money soon part ways.” (32:10)
• More playful back-and-forth on cars, with Shannon noting he’s kept his Range Rover for over a decade and Chad joking about his frugal tendencies.

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5. NBA & NFL Talk: Analysis and Banter

Houston Rockets and Kevin Durant’s New Chapter (42:13)

• Shannon reports the Rockets are on a winning streak with KD’s addition and standout games by several young stars (Sengun, Thompson).
  • “KD didn’t shoot the ball particularly well… But hey, that’s KD.” (43:34)

Lakers Overcome Injuries (44:21)

• Despite being without LeBron, Luka, or Austin Reeves, Lakers pull off a win over Portland, heavily crediting coach JJ Redick's preparation.
• Discussion of Portland’s struggles and team-building.

Q&A and NFL Hot Takes (48:05)

• Q&A covering NFL receiver duos, the Cowboys’ flaws, management changes, and what it takes to build a successful team.
  • Critique of Jerry Jones' long-standing management style:
    “He’s changed players, coaches… The only thing that’s stayed the same is him being GM.” – Shannon Sharpe (54:42)
• Brief analysis of Raiders QB Derek Carr’s career and overall QB scarcity in the NFL.

Bengals Quarterback Debate (65:17)

• Chad is adamant about NOT trading Joe Burrow, underlining how rare elite QBs are.
  • “No, we ain’t trading no Joe… You know how hard quarterbacks like that are to come by?” (65:24)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Chad on image vs reality: “Ain’t no way in hell all these goddamn people got this kind of money.” (21:37)
• Shannon: “It's okay to live a normal life. That's not extravagant. It is okay. See, now people think I gotta live like this or I ain't living.” (31:21)
• Chad’s classic: “A fool and his money soon part ways.” (32:10)
• Shannon on the Hawks scandal: “3.8 million… He can’t pay that back. He gonna go to jail.” (29:29)
• Car banter:
  • Chad: “You don't need a Ferrari. I don't need a Lamborghini... Wherever I go, everybody know who I am.” (34:59)
  • Shannon: “I got a BMW…2019. It just hit 10,500 miles. That's it.” (35:47)

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Highlighted Timestamps

• 02:45 – NFL ‘Nightcap Awards’ details
• 04:08–17:02 – Ja Morant’s alleged trade request, Miami rumor, and Memphis analysis
• 17:46 – Atlanta Hawks executive embezzlement story
• 19:51–21:50 – Social media pressures, fraud consequences
• 31:21-32:10 – Financial wisdom & “a fool and his money” anecdote
• 42:13–46:36 – NBA roundup (Rockets, Lakers, JJ Redick credit)
• 54:42 – Shannon’s Jerry Jones critique
• 65:17 – Bengals’ Joe Burrow: No way he gets traded

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Episode Flow and Tone

The episode maintains a conversational, good-natured, and candid tone, with both hosts blending humor, personal financial wisdom, and deeply-informed sports insight. Listeners are treated to honest opinions, behind-the-scenes rumors, and life advice—all layered with friendly jabs and camaraderie.

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Summary Takeaway

If you missed this Nightcap, you missed the unique blend of sports truth-telling and “uncle-to-the-world” life coaching that only Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson deliver. The Ja Morant saga, the Hawks finance scandal, and lessons on living within your means are all delivered with unfiltered humor and the wisdom of men who've seen it all in pro sports—and want their listeners to win both on and off the field.

Transcript

[Colin Coward]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I turned off news altogether.

[Colin Coward]

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Colin Coward]

We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.

[Shannon Sharpe]

NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.

[Colin Coward]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Nightcap Mid Season NFL Awards are here starting tomorrow for we're letting the fans decide who's been that dude halfway through the season. You can vote on all social social media platforms by hitting the polls, dropping your picks in the comments, or using hashtag Nightcap awards. We'll be posting categories like mvp, Offensive and defensive player of the year culture of the year and even early super bowl picks. OO and I will be giving out our own awards. Young Bull of the year still him Player of the year. It all starts tomorrow with the winners will be announced live on Thursday night. Cap this week after the Raiders Broncos game. Are we gonna actually send some awards? Are we having awards actually made? I was gonna say, boy, this Ash don't. She spent some money. It doesn't cost that much. It actually does. Ash. I so all right. Oh, so we got to come up with our. Got to have a. Got to put your faggo caps on and who you want mvp. Who's been the offensive. Who's been the MVP Office.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I listen, I can tell you who my offensive MVP is right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We just, we'll have it. We Thursday.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, okay. Oh, I yeah, I I offensively. I. I got my defensive one, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho Jah has appeared to be frustrated with how things are going in Memphis recently, and he confirmed on Monday that he's currently unhappy with the Grizzlies. When he asked if Morant has his usual joy at the moment, the point guard answered no. When asked what can be done to get that joy back, Morant said, we'll see.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I talked to John today. I thought I talked to John today. See, I love when. I love when players are disgruntled, right? And, and, and, and things aren't going well and players aren't allowed to be themselves. When you get the best out of players, it's always when you allow them to be themselves. They're able to play freely and enjoy the game of basketball that they love to play. I talked to y' all today. I talked to Pat Riley, I talked to Mickey Harrison, and, and again, I said it. Last year, we weren't able to make it happen. But, but now the fact that JA is not happy in Memphis. Not happy in Memphis. We're trying to do all we can. We're trying to dot all the eyes. We're trying to cross all our TE's and see if it's possible if we can get J down here to Miami.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's what you want to happen.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, that's. That's probably what's going to happen. And I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. That's probably what's going to happen. The, the powers that be are. Are moving behind the scenes, trying to do what they can to see if in the foreseeable future, if this is possible. I don't think they're going to be able to. To rectify that relationship between John and the head coach and. And management and whoever else. He's not happy with that organization. And I think the time has come where it's. It's run its course and it's time for Josh to have new scenery, and that new scenery is right down here on South Beach. And I mean, I'm excited. I'm excited for my Heat fans. Listen, I'm excited for the NBA as.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, because, man, you want everybody.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I'm just telling you. I'm telling you. I said. I sat down. Sat down with Pat. I'm telling you what happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Yeah. I mean, look, for him, I mean, Ocho, it's early in the season. This had to be something that happened in the off season.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, it's carrying over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We only got five. We only five games in. Like I said, I think he was really close to Taylor Jenkins and they moved in a different direction. They fired him before, right. And I think they were like, right smack dab in contention when they had like eight, nine games go. And I think. I think it. It surprised a lot of people. It probably surprised Ja and so. And for him to say some of the things that he said the other night, I was like, wow. Like, they probably think. They probably thought that would be best for me not, you know, to win by me not playing. Right. So I was surprised that he said some of the things that he said.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, he's on. He's unhappy. Yeah, he's unhappy. And then when you have it, when you have a star of his caliber that's unhappy, it's gonna be a rocky road.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I, I don't know if he. He wanted them to do something with that contract, but given his injury history and given some of the things that he's done off the court, Ocho, it's hard. I mean, you tying up. You tying up 300. Quarter of a million, quarter of a billion. 300 million on the guy for him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

We, we.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We talk about the same job around, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm talking about the same job around that's been hurt the last three. The last two years and had issues off the court. They're not tying up $300 million in nobody with that. That's a red flag. They're not.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Everybody's a red flag because everybody gets hurt. It's poison. Anthony. Anthony Davis get hurt all the time, don't he?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Didn't they pay him?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they paid him to court. Name a guy that's gotten paid that's had issues off the court and an injury history.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He gonna get his bag. He's too. He's too good of a player. He's do he's too good of a talent despite some of the issues.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He did all NBA selection.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the game that he plays Ocho, he gets injured a lot because he plays above the rim. And he's not. He's not a large man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And to play like that, it takes a toll on his body. But I think the concerns that. Okay. And maybe he just needs a change of scenery. Maybe he needs to get out of Memphis.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That I. There you go. You just said it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know if Miami is a great place, you know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, your camera not working now you talk about me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

My camera went off.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

See your bat? Your battery dead, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what it is.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Your battery done died on you.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, my battery ain't there. It'd be charging. It'd be charging all along.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, but y' all coming to Miami.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I'm telling you, I just want him to get healthy because I love watching him play, Having. Having watched him several times play the Lakers up close. He's special, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's excited.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He. He's special. He really is.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Box office.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so, like, you know what, Ocho? Sometimes, I mean, I think, what is this, sixth or seventh year? Maybe that's all the time that he was supposed to have in Memphis. Maybe that's it. Maybe his time is up in Memphis. Maybe he needs to go elsewhere. And like he said, can he get it back? I don't know. I don't know what his relationship were like with Bane, but it seems like. I mean, they kept Jared Jackson. They kept. They maxed him out, right? I mean, what they give. What they get. Jared Jackson to what y', all, like, I'm the best player.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, don't. Don't. Yeah, don't.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You don't want to pay him. You're worried about off the field, you know, off the court stuff. And, you know, as. As he continues to mature and. And gets older and improves on his game. I know what he does on the court. I know what. I know what he brings Jackson got. I understand his value. You don't want to pay him, somebody else will.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but, boy, Ocho. Yeah. You know. You know what going to Miami entails? Who's in Miami?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. Pat Riley.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, that's exactly what. That's the whole point.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And he won't have any problems. He needs someone that runs things with an iron fist. A little structure, a little discipline. We gonna let you be yourself. We gonna let you be yourself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't let nobody be himself. He didn't let LeBron be himself.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean. Oh, you know what I'm trying to say.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I know. Yeah. But you got to realize, Ocho, think about what he's used to having. Used to doing whatever he wants and his homeboys being around, you know, Pat ain't going for that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, we. We want. We want John to be able to reach his full potential, to maximize everything, and he can do that right here in Miami.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Sometimes. Sometimes you have to. You have to play under certain rules and disciplines. Like what? Pat Riley gives.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He needs that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you think Pat's gonna accept Jaws? Dad, you gonna be all right, okay?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You're gonna be all right. I'm telling you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. You don't. You know. You know, Morant senior, he don't be in the way. He just be caught side with a little drink. They good? That's it. They good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. I don't know about Miami, but I think his time might be up in Memphis. I just want him to go somewhere where we can see the old job. We could see the guy that was going to the NBA because o. O. Because you got to realize now when he was going to the all star, Shay wasn't what he is. Ant man wasn't what he is. Yeah, you got Luca and you got Steph.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, yeah, listen, he's in. He's in that conversation with the boys, too. When he's healthy. When he's healthy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's a different. It's a different time now. Ooh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Got to get him out of there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just don't know. I. I'm not disagreeing with you on that. I just don't know if Miami and what they got going on and how Pat Riley runs that, I'm not sure Miami is the place for him. I think we can find better options than Miami. Last January. January, The Atlanta Hawks finance executive sent what seemed to be like a routine request to the team's accounting department. He asked the franchise to pay off a $229,968.76American Express bill for a stay at the Wynn hotel in Las Vegas. The month before, the Hawks made a detour there for the NBA cup, where they advanced to the semifinals. And Lester Jones, the team's senior vice president of financial planning and analysis, wanting the bill, played the team account, obliged, but there was no stay at the wind, according to federal prosecutors, and no bill for it. It was allegedly part of a year long con by Jones to steal money from the Hawks, who employed him in their finance department for nearly a decade. Jones, 46, was charged with fraud and embezzling 3.8 million from the NBA franchise, according to an indictment of brought last week by the U. S. Attorney's office in the Northern district of Georgia. Jones used his position with the Hawk to build lavish lifestyle for himself, prosecutors alleged. He controlled the team's American Express card account and the ability to authorize charges, according to prosecutors. Authorized multiple corporate cards for himself and had the ability to charge sums on Others, he reportedly used the power to spend on trips to the Bahamas, Hawaii, Thailand, Switzerland and other countries, paid for a Porsche and brought tickets to concerts and other events. Now he's facing a court. He's facing counsel. Federal wire fraud.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I got a. I got a question.

[Colin Coward]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Do those that do crimes understand that there's no way out of that. That at some point it gonna catch up to you to want to fund a lifestyle of going on trips and going to concerts and. And buying cars and. And living lavish? It's not. It's not worth it, Hunk. It's not worth it. I. I don't understand. What. What are we doing? You're in a great position. You have a great job. You know, you can. I mean, but why not? Well, I'm. I might be the only idiot that does that, that lives way below his means. I don't understand. What are you trying to prove? You already who you are. You already set. You have a great job. You're in control of the finances. You have access to the crit, the Atlanta Hawks credit.

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Who.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That. I'm sorry. Who messes up being in that position?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Somebody that's greedy. And Ocho, you have a job that doesn't afford you those set things. So I. I can see Ocho if I have a look. You and I have nice jobs. So if we wanted to go on a vacation somewhere to the places that's mentioned, we wanted to go to the Maldives, we wanted to go to the Seychelles, we wanted to go to the Amalfi coast or Santorini or wherever the case may be. Okay? The lifestyle that we had, the. The. The occupations that we have or afford said lifestyle. Well, when you have a occupation that won't afford you, that right? People probably looking like, well, damn right, because I'll be looking at. I'll be looking at Tik Tok, like that. I like. They got me thinking, I ain't got no money.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey. But Instagram the same way, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you scroll through Instagram sometimes. And I think to myself, right? I'm like, ain't no way in hell all these goddamn people got this kind of money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, they'd be eating lobster, they'd be eating crab claws. They. They.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm like, well, damn, ain't no way in hell. And the funny thing about it is, social media is not reality. That's not real life. And the fact that people try to try to maintain an image is really scary because with the scary part to it is, is you'll be willing to do anything to attain said lifestyle. And that's the bad part because you willing to do any willy and nilly thing to make sure you're able to provide and pay for your lifestyle. And if, if you've been around, if you've been around the game long enough, you know, you know, and I'm gonna leave that at that, that, that's not this kind of show. Oh, oh, oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, I just, I don't get why you would mess up like an occupation like that when you got, you get to travel with the team. I mean, they trust you with the money and, and I, I just, I don't get it. See, I mean something ain't for me to get right, but I live how I live. Yeah, I got, I got what I got. I can't, I can't fly my entire family first class and we go stay in bungalows in, in Bali. I ain't got it like that. I can't, I can't, you know.

[Colin Coward]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Bring my family to one location, and we fly private and go set up shop. So I'm not going to steal my family. Know what I got? This is what I got. I can bring y' all ass out here to Vegas, put y' all up, have somebody prepare, you know, Mac and cheese, a potato salad, ribs, hot dogs, hamburger. I could do stuff like that, right? We're not going out, so we're not going at the country. And I want y' all to know I'm gonna use my mouth to get y' all ass here.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, See that. That. That position. He had it with the Hawks. That's the kind of position you put someone like me in. You put me in charge of your finances and paying credit card bills and paying stuff like that, because. But when you look up at the end of the season, you ain't gonna have no money spent. You ain't gonna have no money spent at all. Put me. Just. Let. Put me in trouble. What was his title again? What was his title?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Senior finance.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Atlanta Hawks. You have an opening right now. You senior finance. Put me in that position. I guarantee you won't have no issues, Ocho. Guarantee you that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Most people that get in those positions, Ocho, they have finance degrees. You got a finance degree?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Absolutely, absolutely. I got a finance degree from University of Miami.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't go to no University of Miami. You went to Oregon State.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I went to University of Miami for a semester. I had. I majored in finance. I had. I had a minor in marketing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lord have mercy. This man here, I like, like I said. Oh, I look, 3.8 million. He can't pay that back. He gonna go to jail. They'll write this off as a. As a. As. As a loss.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now he ruined. He ain't gonna get no job in that department again, and I just don't know why. It's okay, bro. I don't know who you was trying to impress, but it's okay. It's okay. Look, I know, you know, sometimes you. You have this. You know, you have this Persona, Ocho, and you try to impress somebody. So I'm. I'm. I'm assuming going to the Bahamas and Hawaii and Thailand and Switzerland. He's taking someone with it, right? I'm assuming. I'm assuming he's not going to These places by himself. No, that's what I'm assuming. And, Chad, forgive me for being presumptuous, but I'm saying I'm assuming. Yeah, It's a bro. That's what I got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. And listen, I can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't go nowhere for no. First of all, I don't want to go nowhere for no 30 days. I don't want to go nowhere for 21 days. I don't want to Go nowhere for two weeks. I ain't got it like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Three days max.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I might can give you five days.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And four nights, right? Five. Well, you better than me, Ocho. You better than me, huh, Ocho? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was taking a woman on the Hawk staff and they fired her also.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now you done pissed me off. Not. Not mad. What's the number to the. Hey, call. Hey. What? Joe. I know Joe. I know Joe. You probably watching the show. Hey, tell the Hawks call me, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what, Ocho? It is okay. Ocho, it is okay to live a normal life. That's not extravagant. It is okay. See, what. You see what social media has done? You see, now people think I gotta live like this or I ain't living.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm Ocho. I am fine. I eat the same thing every day, and I'm fine with that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, I'm living. The funny thing about it is, is I'm living proof the past 25 years where I'm okay. I'm okay living way below my means if I need to. You know, I can cut a fool every blue moon every so often. Yeah. I can remind you. Oh, yeah. I still got it. But it ain't no point. That's not my identity. It never has been. Those that are lost in that image and having to keep up with the Joneses, man, I tell you. I tell you what my grandma say all the time, huh? A fool and his money sell soon. So soon part ways. It's it. It's always. It always. Always comes to life. At some point.

[Total Wireless Advertiser]

You.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got to stop it. It's impossible to maintain that lifestyle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's trying to live a life that he can't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It don't make.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But how long did he think this charade was going to go on? Ocho, that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's. That's the part I'm curious.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The guy from the Jags. The guy from the Jags was. He stole 20 million from the Jags. What? Lost all of the gambling.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Wait, hold on. Did we talk about this story?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. I got what I look like. I said at most, at, at abs. At the absolute most. I got five days and four nights.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, that's too long for me. I get. I'm giving you three days.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do realize I'm counting the trip over if it takes us a day to get there. Well, you got three. You got four days and three nights.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right? Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no, man, I, I can't. Hey, I can't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey. Oo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What am I going on vacation for? I mean, I, I, I'll go just to appease. That's what, this is what you want to do. You want to get away from. Okay, B. Yeah. You want to go lay on the beach? Okay. I'm gonna be sitting on. I'll be sitting on the porch at the bungalow watching you while you lay out there close by the pool.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. You know what the funny thing about it is, is that I talk to all my NFL dudes, especially the young ones right now. I tell them about, you know, you're spending your money and, and not realizing, trying to get them to understand you are the value. You, you, you, you in general, when you take all that jury off, we ain't got no nice car. You and you look in that mirror, boy. You are the value. When you can get your name, when you get your name, your name becomes a household name. There is the value. There is nothing, nothing you can buy that is worth more than your name alone. Nothing, nothing you can go anywhere in the world. Everybody know who the hell Shannon Sharp is. Everybody know who it is. So you don't. There's certain things at this point in life you don't have to do because you already him. Ocho, why you driving that goddamn small car? What I'm supposed to be driving? I don't need a Ferrari. I don't need a Lamborghini no more. Wherever I go, everybody know who the. If I am. It makes no sense at this point.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I'm getting, I'm gonna get a new car in 2027.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

For what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause I just want one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You don't need it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I had, I mean, I've got a Range Rover got. Ocho, this. Is this the. I got the most miles I've ever had on a car in my life. I got 40, 000 miles on my range Rover. I've never had that many miles on any car I've ever had.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What year you, what year range you got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know, 2013?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, God damn, 2014. You don't want to upgrade for what.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shelly driving when she comes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You heard what you said. You said for what? Right? So what say, why you get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, my daughter drive. When my daughter come, she drive it. I don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, why don't you get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got a BMW. I got a BMW. I got it in 2019. It just hit 10,500 miles. That's it. Ocho. When I go, I go to the gym. If I got to get anything, I'm. If I got to go by cvs, if I got to go grab something, I. I would do all of that. While I'm out, I'm not coming home from the gym. It's like, oh, I got to go get something. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Everything is in one fail swoop.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you know what, man? I think about it. I know. I know the people at Range Rover might see this. I know the people at Range might see this. So I'm gonna just throw this out there. I'm gonna throw this little tidbit out there. You know, Christmas coming up, and if y' all got any kind of discounts, y' all wanna holl at your boy, you know, trying to give me a nice little range roll.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Somebody said, man, I'm talking about, like, 40, 000 miles. A lot of miles. It is 40, 000 miles. Ain't a lot of miles on the car.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, it depends on how much you drive. You don't. You don't drive that much. So to other people that might.

[Shannon Sharpe]

George. George got 17. Jordan had his car for two years. It already got 17, 000 miles on it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Where the hell they be going?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You must be living Cali. He driving back and forth to Cali every day. God dang, Jordan.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's a lot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I got, like. Like I said, I got that car in 20. I don't know what it is. I gotta see it, but I think it's like a 2013. I got it in 2012. October 2012, and it just turned 40,000 miles. So that's 13, 14 years. I. I hate driving. I hate it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Listen, I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got, like, my max, probably. Like, I mean, I used to try to do, like, three and a half hours.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, three.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I think the farthest I drove, I drove to Daytona. Drove to Tallahassee back in the day, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. My max is three hours. Orlando, Tampa, that's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, I was in Savannah. I drive to Savannah, Atlanta, but that's it. Five hours, ten hours. Oh, hell.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Listen, I don't understand people that enjoy road trips like that. Anything over three. I can't do it. I'm getting on the plane. I can't do it. Oh, let's take the scenic route. Seen what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, absolutely not, Ocho. I drove. I flew from LA to San Diego. I fly from Atlanta to Savannah. Oh, no, I'm not driving right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Three hours. Three hours I could do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can't do it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, so I, I, I, I don't, I don't get the, I don't, I don't get the. I don't get them. I don't get, you know, in a situation like that, like, you are who you are, you got what you got. And I just, at this point, I, I got what I got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't, I don't understand, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, you know, I, I can't, I, I can't fly, you know, I can't. We, we not, we not going and standing on five, ten thousand dollar a night villa, just me and you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Wait, five, ten thousand for something I didn't already had?

[Shannon Sharpe]

For who?

[Total Wireless Advertiser]

For what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, well, you best believe if you going over there, it's already. The act has already been done. Fly away over there for that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If the act has already been done, ain't no need to be going over there in the first place. Yeah, I mean, man, come on, man. 5, 10,000 on a villa for who? For what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I mean, come on now. Nah, I mean, you know, hey, she don't put up. She don't, you know, she doesn't, she, hey, and we going. Where we going, Ocho? With a vacation. We got to go somewhere.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, right here, you know. You know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, we ain't going right here. We going somewhere. We're going Puerto Rico, Bahamas, Huh? Nah, the Bahamas, Ocho. Oh, that was Jamaica that, that hurricane hit.

[Total Wireless Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

To all, all the people in Jamaica, man, our thoughts and prayers go to you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hopefully everybody's okay. Check on your family, friends and loved ones. I want to go somewhere. I got to go somewhere. I, I don't. I gotta go somewhere where I can find Qatar Air, Qantas Emirates, Singapore Air. I gotta go somewhere I can fly one of those.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The only time I'm traveling that far is for soccer. That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, I'm saying, Ocho, I got to travel somewhere. So wherever one of those four airlines go, right, I need to go there. So I guess if Singapore Air, I guess I got to go to Singapore. I've never wanted to go to Singapore. Hey, can I just go? Can I can. Hey, I'm gonna Just fly? Can I just fly? I ain't got no reservations nowhere. I just wanna fly over there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You ain't got no destination, you just getting on, huh? Say, you gang, you ain't got no destination, you just getting on, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope. I just want to say I, I, I'm gonna fly all four of them because I want to see, you know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know, hey, hey, that, that, hey, that business class boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's, that's what I hear. That's, that's what I've seen.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. That boy is something special.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Emirates, okay. Emirates, Singapore, Qatar and Qantas.

[Colin Coward]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, when I, when I had to fight, when I had to fly Qatar, Qatar to work the World Cup.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. The thing with Nice.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oo, man, I ain't never seen nothing like that, man. I've never. I didn't even know the inside of a plane could look like that. The service.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, now you got me geeked. Oo, now you got me geeked. Ooh.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, that, that was different. That was, that was different. And then obviously the plane is big as hell. You don't feel no turbulence.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't feel. Double deckers, too. A loto double decker.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You can walk up the stair. I mean, walk.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got walk up. You can walk around, go around, up and go up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. It, it was amazing. It was amazing. And the fact that, Listen, the, the, the people, the stewardess and the, the, the, the flight attendants, they constantly check on you to make sure you're right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I want to check on me. I want them to check over once I get in there. Oo, I'm good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You good? Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo, I got a side. Do not disturb. I gotta decide to do that stir. I don't want nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, but that's different, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, I'm fine.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That, that was, that was a great experience, though. That, that was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I want you to pretend like I'm in jail, sitting outside my door. Just set my plate on the floor outside the door. Ooh. Oh, Joe. The Houston Rockets started their season 0 and 2, but have seemingly hit their stride. KD and the Rockets made focus, made it four consecutive wins with a 110, 102 win over Cooper Flag and the Dallas Mavericks. KD had 21.6 boards, five assists in the win, while Afrin Sanguine had 26, 11 and 6. Armin Thompson led the way for Houston with 27 points, a new season high. Meanwhile, Flag has had been a bit inconsistent during his rookie season. He had just 12 points after going cold in the second half. Without D on the court, Dallas would need more from the number one overall pick. And Kyrie probably is not coming back until 26. I mean January of 26. Kyrie says he's going to make sure he's healthy. They got P.J. washington gave him 29 and 12. Gaffer gave him 14. Cooper Flag gave him, gave him 12. Max Christie gave him 17. And they got 10 from D' Angelo Russell. But Kevin Durant 21. Terry Eason had 15, Shingoon had 26, Thompson had 27.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Houston.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Houston's hitting the stride. They're getting good. Katie didn't shoot the ball particularly well last tonight. He was 6 of 18, is only 2 of 8 from 3. But hey, that's KD. He, hey, he, he, he. I ain't worried about. He ain't gonna shoot. He ain't gonna shoot that bad from the field. He ain't gonna shoot 33%. He won't shoot 33% 10 times this year from defeat. Nah. And he damn sure ain't gonna shoot 25% from 3. So I ain't worried about KD. Shing goon is all star. He's. I always thought Thompson was special. Thompson, he's, he's amazing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ah, is it, is it a mod or ah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Amin. Amen. Thompson.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Thompson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he got a brother that's in Detroit and sure damn, I should, I.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Should have been a Hooper man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you did what you supposed to do. You did exactly Ocho. The Lakers were short staffed tonight. Luca, LeBron, Austin, Reeves, all sideline but managed to pick up a 123, 115 victory over the Portland Trailblazers. The win came in large part to deandre Ayton, who posted his best performance in a Laker uniform. 29 points, 10 boards. Roy Hachimura stepped in with 28 points. You know, he was going to probably be motivated because he, you know, he spent a couple of years up in, in Portland.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Portland.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you know, Portland feel like he did not. He did not. He has not played as well as they had hoped when they gave him that big contract.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come from Phoenix. Look man, ace J.J. redick and coach, I mean you can tell how thorough he was. Like being around him and talking basketball, he's very, very, very well prepared. Now I'm not saying he's the most prepared, but I'm saying if there's someone more prepared than him, they're really, really prepared.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But the funny thing about it, when it comes to basketball, even though it's something new to me, but you can tell how good JJ is as a coach when you have some of your star players out and you're still able to put up the kind of performance they did tonight. The Portland Trailblazers. DeAndre.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. LeBron. No. Luca. No. Ad. So you got three starters out and you did. And you do what you did there. Yeah, that was amazing. They were down big at one point in time. I think they were down like 10 points.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right. What does that. What does that say about the Blazers? Are the Blazers that bad this year or they're just early in the season?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, they got some decent players. I like shading sharp. They brought Holiday over. Clingan Camara's pretty good. They got. They got some decent players, but they're not gonna do anything. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jeremy Grant is coming off the bench now, but they're not gonna do anything. You know, Dame is back in, in, in. In Portland and he's a year away.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But they ain't gonna be back to next year, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, right. But when you're out, Luca, you're out ar you without LeBron. And you find a way to win against a team to full strength, right? Yeah. Damn. The Lakers scored 71 in the second half. That's a big time win. That's. That's very impressive. I. I've been very, very impressed with J.J. a guy that. I don't think he's had any previous coaching experience unless he coached his kids at, at, you know, at a very little. A low level with no college, no high school, obviously no professional career and to step in and to coach, but, you know, here's a guy that played the game, you. And I think the thing is you. You respect him because, you know, he know what he's talking about. You know, he's thorough. And I've been very. I've been very, very, very impressed with the job. Now, I still haven't forgiven for what he did in game three and played lebron them autumn damn minutes. But other than that, you, you, you get to the finals this year, you or you win the championship. I always forgive him. All is forgiven. All right, Ocho, we're gonna get out of here on this. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Tito Davis says Stephen A. Needs to stay away from Dallas. He bad luck, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's not like y' all won a whole bunch of games before Stephen a step foot in Dallas. You don't realize. Y', all, y', all, y'. All. Those 31st worst defense in football. The Bengals are worse. So what you mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Come on, you didn't have to mention us. You didn't have to mention us. You can't lump the Bengals and the Cowboys together.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you know, you can both of the defense suck. And.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you cannot blame Stephen. I hate when people do that, you know, even though. Even in the joking manner, they say, oh, you bad luck or you the reason we lost? Had them boys been out there practicing. They practiced Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. What they put out there on Sunday ain't got nothing to do with me. Ain't got nothing to do with me at all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, it does. Oh, Tyler Cox, as a lifelong Cowboy fan, I'm officially done. Cowboys are just a marketing company with a few football players. Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Wait, he said a market. A marketing company.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's a good one. That's. Hey, listen, the. The brand markets itself. It sells itself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It does. But he's not done. He's just talking.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's the. You know, we say that all the time. I'm done. I'm done. I'm out. Yeah. Hey, you know, hey, they win one game and I'm back. I'm back.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hype.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Izzy R. Said, yo, Uncle Nocho, who was better? Wide receiver duo. Aaron McCaffrey, Ross Smith, or TJ? Hush. Manzana and Ocho. That was a good one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ojo, you ever had 100 catches in the season? Hell, no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Not even close.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What about TJ?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Probably. Probably? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ed and Rod both went over 100. I wasn't there. I think it was 2000. In 2000, both Ed and Rod. Nah, it was 2001. They both went over. Was it 2001? Nah, 2000. 2000. They both went over a hundred catches. Another where he led the league, and he had over 1600 yards receiving.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right? Man, I wish I did have a goddamn honey kit. Man, please.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Philly talk. Paul Bland is good as his last name. He's not PS2. He's not Stingley. He's not Quin Yon. He's not Gonzo. He's not Terraria. There's a reason Rail Reeva's career high interception was four. Didn't even throw his way. Barbecue chicken. Yes, you're right. And that's what people don't realize. I mean, look, a lot of guys got a lot of picks once they moved to safety. You look at Rod Wilson, started his career out as a corner, move to safety. Charles Woodson, started his career as a corner, moved to safety. Aneus Williams started his career as a corner, moved to safety time started his career out as a corner, moved to safety his last two years in in be more. But I, I, I, I just don't, I just don't know. I just never seen the corner, a guy that's supposed to be that guy just get targeted. But it was one of those nights. But. And when a guy gets to gets it going and that's what you don't want to happen. Ocho. I don't care. Hey, you let a guy get going, it's a wrap. Man, you got your damn hands full.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, it gonna be. It's gonna be hell shutting me down now. Because once you get going and once that, once that confidence get in you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In your system, ain't nothing you can do. You have my mercy now at all. You had my mercy now. Kenneth Davis said Jerry Jones need to hire. I think he means Carly essay. He says Charlie essay. He means Carly. The one that's be that's on the sidelines.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, from Indy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. And Sagara Sajira. Hey, uncle no show. Love the show. Can you recall a route you ran where you left a defender in the dust like M.H. mike Marvin Harrison Jr. Did at the goal line? Yeah, I ran a sluggo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yep. Shoot me all of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, oh. Go back to look at 90 how I was cooking the Cowboys cooked him. Oh, the best ride I ever ran. I only got 20 yards. I shook. Hey. What? I'm sorry I shook Darren Woodson.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When I say I shook him, moo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got him bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What did I. Not the best ride I ran n. I ran another ride in practice and I a. They throw me the ball. I read around Ocho. Ah, got inside right now, mind you, I want to go inside. I gotta, I gotta brace it cross. So I got 10 to 12 breaking across, right? So I got inside, I got to my break, I put my hand in his back. So if I put you you put somebody put your hand in the back. What does that mean? He trying to go out, right? So I put my hand in his back. He went out, I went in.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Most of the time when you cuz.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wherever he feel pressure, he's going to go where he feels pressure, right? They ain't throw me the ball, though. Big TD the one damn OO ever since I wore 85 jersey, my Cowboys were looking like some stir fry. What the helly? Keep it on. Don't take it off.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on for the Cowboys. Been stir FR before you wore that jersey, though. I'm confused.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He tried. He tried to put it on you or elo. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No. Yeah. Don't do that. Don't do that. Ain't got nothing to do with that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The prime S. Prime S. Shannon, I have to know. After tonight, I believe the season is over for the Cowboys. That defense is as useful as a wet napkin. What I want to know, what is it going to take for the Cowboys to be relevant next season?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It seems like when they got a decent defense, the offense isn't good. When they got an offense, the off, you know, the deep. When they got a defense, the offense isn't good. And when the offense is good, the defense isn't good. Uh, Jerry, let somebody else be in charge.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That ain't happening.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, think about. He's done change players, he's done change coaches. The only thing that's remained the same is him being the general manager, him being owner, CEO, vice president and owner. Those four titles has not left coaches. How many coaches have he had? He had Mike. Okay, now you got Brian Schottenheimer. He had Mike McCarthy. He had Jason Garrett. Who did he have before? He had Bill Parcells. He had Dave Campo. He had Chan Gailey. He had Barry Switzer. He had Jimmy Johnson. That's what I can name off the top of my head.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, and Wade Phillips. He's had different quarterbacks. He had Drew Bledsoe. He had Tony Romo. Now he's had Dak Prescott. He's had different running backs. He's had Dance Bryant at wide receiver. He's had Terrell Lloyd's at wide receiver. He's had Miles Austin at my wide receiver. Now he's got CD George Pickens. He's had Jason Whitney at tight end. He's had the Bennett on one of the Bennett. The tight ends. He's got these guys at tight ends. Offensive line, a whole. The only thing that's. That's remained intact.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Jerry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he had the nerve to talk about. He thought about hiring Sean Payton. Man, you ain't think about hiring no Sean Payton. Cause you're not gonna tell Sean Payton what to do. Sean Payton got too much bill parcels in him. You weren't gonna ever try Sean Payton. But it sounded good. Brian BB Gaming. Are my Raiders ever going to be good? Do you ever think Derek Carr was a solid quarterback? Or was he mid. Took out to the playoffs one year? Was he great? No, but how many times? I mean, but people. People like to make it seem like in the 80s there was just like plethora of great quarterbacks in the 90s there was this plethora of great quarterbacks in the 2000 there this. It wasn't. There have been the same five, six tier one quarterbacks. Yeah. Some tier twos and some tier threes. That's just the way it is.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean it wasn't no 15 Joe Montanas. It went in the 80s there was no 15, 15 Marinos and Elways. In the 90s there was no 15, 20 Peyton Mannings, drew Brees, Tom Brady, Aaron. There was, there wasn't far. There wasn't that. But until you get a side a real top notch quarterback, you, you wasted your time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, that's the hard part.

[Shannon Sharpe]

TS car washing detail service job. Going to be retiring soon. With his actions now, I, I think me, I, I think he's moved beyond the behavior off the court. I don't know what the issues with him on the court with the coaching staff. Right. I think he's injured now. I think he had. Well no, he wasn't injured. He said he wasn't injured with nothing wrong with him. They just didn't play him right. And I don't know, I need to watch him for an extended period of time and see if I still see the same of explosiveness. If I see the same guy that attacked the basketball like he once did when he was at his apex getting to attacking the rim eight, nine, ten times a game. Let's see, let's, let's see if he's still that guy. I think he's shooting a career low from the 3 at 19%. That won't cut it because if you're not going to shoot any better than that, they're going to back off of you because they know you can get around them. They're not going to let you get around them. They'll give you that shot. And I thought he had worked really hard in the off seasons because he had gotten better. Better. And if they dared him to shoot it, he would shoot it. And he make it. He took the shot with conviction. So I think once he gets back I'm going to make a, make a concerted effort to spend a little bit more time watching him and see if I notice any differences in his game. Saucer said, oh, what I, what I want to say. Overreact. Second, no Luca, no AR and my Lakers still find a way to be 6 and 2. Yeah. Because AR did a great job of carrying them when Luca was out and now when Lucas back, man, you look, look, Luca can go off. He's a guy that can get you 25. 20, 25. 30 points in a quarter.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

AR playing with extreme confidence. And they got this kid, Loveria. He dropped, what, 26, 27 the other night. He was cooking. I'm like, what? Where he come from? Yeah, he from Memphis, ain't it? Wasn't he in Memphis last year? Yeah. So I'm like, damn. So you got guys that can take game. The thing that happened with the Lakers is that, like, when LeBron would go to the bench or when Luke would go to the bench, then now you'll always have a situation where you'll have got some skills. Luca and LeBron or Luca and AR or AR and LeBron, you'll always have guys that can go get you buckets. So there should never be a lull in scoring with those guys on. Look, now, look, defensively there's going to be an issue because LeBron is 40. LeBron's going to be 41. AR is not a defensive guy, and neither is Luca. So guys like, you know, you get a guy like a. A Marcus, smart, Jerry Vanderbilt, those guys are going to have to be better on the defensive end. Aiden's going to have to protect the paint. It's just what. He's gonna have to do a very good job of. Damn, Ronnie had six assists tonight, okay? 5.6 assists. I see you, Bronnie. Bria Carter. Ocho got a finance degree. He got everything except your 5,900. You right, you notice that, too? Damn, you got all these damn degrees. Hey, listen, I got that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you see that finance degree, right? And that's the same. That same situation dude was in trouble with about spending money. That's, that's, that's why you owe me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was spending somebody else stuff. You owe me money, Ocho. What don't you get about that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, 20, 26. I got you, matter of fact, for Christmas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo, you've been on me since 24.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's been that long?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

God damn.

[Odoo Advertiser]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I said. You know, I want, you know, get a little something for. A little something. Something for something. I don't joke, you know, a little something.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm, I'm. I'm trying to get my daughter a Range Rover, man, for Christmas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you gonna get a range roll but you ain't got my 5,900? Chad, did that make sense to y'?

[Odoo Advertiser]

All?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on. But I'm just saying, you want my daughter to go without a car?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want you to give me my 5900 after you give me my 5900. You could buy a dump truck for all I care. I want my. I just want my 5,900. That's all I want. Chad.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Chad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all heard this man. This man said, yeah, my daughter. My daughter want a Range Rover for Christmas. Yeah, he got Range Rover money, but he ain't got 5,900.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, listen. And you ain't got Joe hundred dollars. You owe Joe a Honda.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, shoot. There you go. All right, let me. I'm switch back to my laptop, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. You paid Dan, though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't pay Dan, but Daniel had to get it back in blood, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just trying to figure this out. Soul M Sports. Oh, fly. Oh, fly. Private ocho be betting 5,900. Yeah. Yes, y' all do have it. Nah, I'll be flying private. I'll be in my seat by myself on Delta. Man, I ain't got, man, 10, 12 an hour. Why would play 40,000? Why I would pay $40,000 to fly from here to Atlanta?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, oh, now. Oh, now. You want to see what I was talking about by flying private? Now you get it? You see what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There we go. Because I got on you when you flew private last time. You was in there eating by yourself, and I said that was a waste of money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It wasn't a waste of money. It was money well spent. And you give me my 5,900. As a matter of fact, I still got. I still got. I still got. I still got two and a half hours on one. So. So at 5900, that'll be a full three hours.

[Odoo Advertiser]

Nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I can go somewhere.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You don't need to go nowhere. That's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the problem.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You need to focus. Huh? You need to focus. We. We on grind time right now. We in grind mode right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't gonna fly nowhere right now, but I got these hours stored up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, well, let. Let them. Let them sit and marinate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord. No words for tonight performance, Nothing. Doc, you know, ever since you said that, you know, see, I'm saying, Doc, you should have left it alone. You say you gonna have something. Your team was gonna have something for the Broncos. I told you, I said, doc, don't do that. I tried to tell you, Doc, I didn't want to do this. I didn't want to do this. Doc. I, I. I feel bad for you, but I am so sorry. Your team.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What? Doc. Doc a Cowboys fan?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is she?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, I'm. I'm just curious. For Cowboys fans, were they expecting something? Different this year Or, or, or is it? Or do they act like it's a surprise every year?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Every year. Okay, Motion Boy Mike. Love y'.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Uncle Nocho, I'm an Amazon driver and I listen to y' all on my route every day. Ocho, after hearing some crazy, is my favorite. You want to hear something crazy, Motion Boy? I sure be glad when I get my money back. You think I'm gonna get my money back?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I got you. I got you. I got you. Definitely. I'm gonna get that to you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Saw your calls with Ocho Burrow. Can't stay healthy. Trade while you can. Damn. Oo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Trade who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He said Joe, man, child, please, man. Sit down somewhere, man. To my top three quarterback in the NFL. You know how hard quarterbacks like that are to come by? No, we ain't trade no joke.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I absolutely know how hard they are to come by. And when you get one, you ain't getting off him unless he. Unless he old, injured, or just a downright problem. Yep. And I don't see that happening. That completes this episode of Nightcap. The Cowboys did what cowboys do. They did by losing what was called 2017. 2717, 2717. Wow. Jacoby Brissette looked really good tonight. I thought he played extremely well. Extremely, extremely well tonight through the ball. Yeah, he missed a couple of throws, but, you know, they brought some pressure. And he stood right in there and he stared down the battle of the gun and he. He made some big time throws. I thought guys stepped up, made plays. There was really no drop. The only drop they had was a McBride. He got past the affairs, but I'm sure he love to have that catch back because he's like, damn, that pass interference.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I want to on a deep ball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Down on a deep ball. Yes, absolutely. Thank you guys for joining us. I am your favorite unc, Shannon Sharp, and that is my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Bingo's ring of fame moderate. A former pro bowler and an all pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your eyes, where you get your podcast from. We want to thank each and every one of you for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth because without you, none of this is possible. Thank you for your support and your continued support. Make sure you check out Shay by Laportier and it is a premium BSOP cognac. Just head over to laportierconac.com if you cannot find it in a state or city near you, order it. We'll ship it directly to your door. The Best Tasting Premium Bsop Cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it. Try it for yourself, compare it against others and I'm sure you'll find out that we do have the best tasting Premium VSOP Cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go check out my media company page on all of its platform Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat again. The the Cardinals run rough shot over the Dallas Cowboys by the score of 27 to 17. Joby Jacoby Brissette, filling in for an injured Kyler Murray played extremely well tonight. Had two touchdown passes and he played well. They ran the ball well. Defense got after Dak Prescott, sacked him five times, picked him off even though that didn't count at the end of the game. But they did force force two costly turnovers and turned them over on downs twice. So the Cardinals go into Dallas on a Monday night and win 2717. I am your favorite uncle Shannon Sharpen. That is my partner and co host. That's Liberty City's own that's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. We're off tomorrow, but we'll see you on Wednesday. Thank you guys for joining us.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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