Nightcap Hour 2: Falcons HIRE Kevin Stefnaski as their new Head Coach + Packers KEEP Matt LeFleur as head coach + The RIP Red Carpet BTS

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2 – Falcons Hire Kevin Stefanski, Packers Keep Matt LaFleur, The RIP Red Carpet BTS

Date: January 18, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (Uncle No)
Co-Host: Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Podcast: Club Shay Shay - Nightcap
Special Guest Segment: Nav Green (Broken Play Podcast)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the latest NFL coaching carousel shake-ups (notably, Kevin Stefanski joining the Atlanta Falcons and Matt LaFleur remaining with the Packers), analyzes team futures, breaks down high-stakes playoff scenarios, and explores behind-the-scenes moments from the Netflix “RIP” red carpet, featuring Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. Throughout, Shannon (“Unc”) and Ocho keep it witty, honest, and accessible—mixing football acumen with playful banter, real talk, and cultural references.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Kevin Stefanski Hired as Falcons Head Coach

[01:18 - 05:56]

• Background:
  The Atlanta Falcons hire two-time NFL Coach of the Year, Kevin Stefanski. He’s a Philly native, and the hire follows meetings with Falcons owner Arthur Blank, who reportedly personally cooked ribeyes for the critical dinner.
• QB Situation:
  Discussion surrounds the Falcons’ young quarterback, Michael Penix Jr. (noted for being “injury prone”), and the veteran presence of Kirk Cousins as a potential backup and security blanket.
• Is Stefanski the Right Fit?
  • Ocho: “If the quarterback position is solidified, he can do something with Michael Penix Jr. … He’s injury prone. Not sure what that looks like.” [02:38]
  • Unc: “You probably told Matt Ryan and Mr. Blank you were gonna call plays. That’s why you probably got the job.” [05:14]
  • Both comment on Stefanski’s possible play-calling duties and how head coaching is more complex than coordinating.
• Atlanta vs. Cleveland:
  Ocho compares Atlanta’s “weapons” on offense to Cleveland’s defense (where Stefanski previously coached), suggesting Stefanski is set up better offensively in Atlanta.

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2. Packers Retain Matt LaFleur & Roster Analysis

[05:56 - 12:53]

• LaFleur’s Job Security:
  Packers’ new president Ed Policy gives LaFleur a solid vote of confidence with an extension under consideration. LaFleur has mostly kept the team competitive since 2019.
• Roster Breakdown:
  • Unc: “They got the quarterback ... a boatload of receivers.”
  • Ocho: “Keep Christian Watson healthy … the guy from Texas, Matthew Golden, y’all have to give him opportunities.” [09:20]
  • Acknowledgment that some wide receivers may leave due to cap/logistics.
• Defense Concerns:
  Concerns about penalty-prone corners, and Rashan Gary’s sack drought (“…like 10, 11 weeks without a sack.” - Uncle No [07:40])
  • Ocho on sack stats: “It’s hard to get them sacks, boy.” [08:00]

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3. Coach Carousel: Giants, Raiders, Steelers, and More

[14:20 - 16:27]

• Openings Remaining:
  Giants (John Harbaugh possibly incoming), Tennessee, Arizona, Pittsburgh, Raiders.
• Reality Check for New Coaches:
  Ocho: “You got to go in there with a plan, because if you don’t have a plan, your lease is gonna be short.” [15:02]
  • “Owners have expectations—we bring someone in, you’re going to be the one to turn and change this thing around.” [15:16]

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4. The RIP Red Carpet & Behind the Scenes

[17:02 - 25:55]

• Red Carpet Experience:
  Unc and Ocho recount walking the red carpet at the Netflix release for “The RIP,” meeting Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, and other stars.
• Movie Plot & Ethics Debate:
  • The film’s plot, inspired by a real 2018 Miami cash seizure (with $24M discovered in a home).
  • Ocho’s take: “Life changing money ... and I know you’re supposed to be honest and serve with integrity and morals and all this. Man, the hell with that. If I run across $20 million ... we keepin’ it.” [18:14]
  • Playful debate about how much money they’d “turn in” as hypothetical police.
• Acting Kudos:
  Unc: “I thought Teyana Taylor did an unbelievable job. Ben Affleck and Matt Damon together—they’re magic.” [22:56]
  • Ocho cites “The Town” as his favorite Ben Affleck film.

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5. NFL Playoffs and Personnel Moves

[27:00 - 29:43+]

• Playoff QB Props & Analysis:
  Unc and Ocho take Prize Picks over/unders on playoff QBs (Drake May, C.J. Stroud, Caleb Williams, Matthew Stafford), debating passing yard projections and the impact of weather.
• QB Performance Pressure:
  Ocho: “In weather like that, lean on the running game and only throw when you have to.”
• Broncos Update:
  Unc closes with a bittersweet note: Broncos win but lose QB Bo Nix to injury, setting up an underdog story for Denver.

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6. Q&A: Audience Engagement, Quarterback Discourse, and Birthday Shoutouts

[31:15 - 69:02+]

• Q&A Segment:

  • Fans chime in about LaFleur’s contract, the Packers’ trajectory, and birthday shoutouts.
  • Ocho: “Can you do both dinner and a movie in one night? … I tried it … I was asleep.” [33:48]

• QB Legacies & Super Bowl Pressure:

  • Extended riffing on the perennial debate about Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, and MVP/super bowl expectations:
    • Unc: “There are very few players that have multiple MVPs. Lamar is the only quarterback with multiple MVPs and no super bowl appearances.” [41:00]
    • “When you get MVPs, you get to another level of expectations that comes along with it.”
    • Ocho: “Gotta get that monkey back.” [39:31]

• Handling Loss:

  • Unc: “Most people will tell you, winning doesn’t feel as good as losing hurts ... I can damn near tell you every loss I had from college to the NFL.” [64:00]

• Personal Touches:

  • Many birthday and engagement shoutouts to fans.
  • Ocho shares about his first-ever Brazil trip and meeting Brazilian soccer legends Ronaldo and Neymar.
  • Ocho recalls a hot streak: “I had 206 against the Chargers. Then next game I had 209 ... and then after that, 190.” [67:54]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Stefanski’s Hiring and Calling Plays:
  “You probably told Matt Ryan and Mr. Blank that you were gonna call plays. That’s one of the reasons you probably got a job.”
  — Uncle No [05:14]

• Atlanta Falcons’ Offensive Outlook:
  “He has so many weapons at his disposal to work with. I think he’s going to be okay.”
  — Ocho [03:33]

• NFL Pass Rushing Wisdom:
  “If I play 60 plays, I can suck 59 of them. All I gotta do is get one sack. If I get one sack every game, that’s 17 sacks. Name a season I’m not gonna make the Pro Bowl with 17 sacks.”
  — Uncle No recalling DeMarcus Ware [10:53]

• NFL QB Expectations:
  “There are less than 10 quarterbacks that have multiple MVPs, and you want us to judge Lamar like he’s a normal guy and it’s impossible.”
  — Uncle No [40:13]

• Hypothetical Police Ethics:
  “Man, the hell with that. If I run across $20 million … we keepin’ it.”
  — Ocho [18:14]

• On Playoff Heartbreak:
  “Winning doesn’t feel as good as losing hurts.”
  — Uncle No [64:00]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Time (MM:SS) |
|---------------------------------------------|------------------------|
| Falcons hire Kevin Stefanski, QB dilemma | 01:18 - 05:56 |
| Packers keep LaFleur, roster/defense talk | 05:56 - 12:53 |
| On head coaching challenges & openings | 14:20 - 16:27 |
| The RIP red carpet/movie morality | 17:02 - 25:55 |
| Playoff props, Broncos update | 27:00 - 29:43+ |
| Q&A: QB narratives, birthdays & fan Qs | 31:15 - 69:02+ |

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Tone & Style Highlights

• Authentic, Candid Football Talk:
  Shannon and Ocho pull no punches—telling truths about coaching fits, player flaws, and legacies.
• Entertaining Banter:
  The episode is lively, with storytelling, jokes, “what if” debates, and pop-culture sidebars.
  (Ex: “If I run across $20 million … we keepin’ it” - Ocho)
• Community Engagement:
  Frequent birthday and life shoutouts, direct Q&A, and relatable asides (“dinner and a movie” jokes).
• Pop Culture Integration:
  The Netflix movie discussion gives listeners a “peek behind the curtain” at athlete-celebrity crossovers.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This Nightcap Hour 2 delivers a robust, timely roundup of coaching changes, team uncertainties, and playoff drama, spotlighting fresh coaching hires and old-school football wisdom with the club’s signature energy. Shannon and Ocho keep it unapologetically real, blending deep gridiron insight with humor, making it essential listening for football fans seeking unfiltered takes and a few hearty laughs.

Next Steps:

• Watch “The RIP” on Netflix and join the continued convo next episode.
• Stay tuned for Club Shay Shay’s post-playoff and Super Bowl coverage, and the After Dark Live event in San Francisco.

Transcript

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[Uncle No]

The Atlanta Falcons finalized the deal to hire Kevin Stefanski as their new head coach. The two time NFL Coach of the Year flew to Atlanta today and now they're still on the Falcon head coaching job. Now I read that he invited him over to his home for dinner and he was going to have, you know, a steak and potato bar. But it's been reported that Mr. Blank cooked the ribeye himself. Said reiterated Matt Ryan will be leaving. Interviews for the team's head coach and general managers open. Both Matt Ryan and Kevin Stefanski have Philly ties. Ryan grew up in the Philly suburbs and attended William Penn Charter before starting at Boston College. Stefanski is a Philly native who played at St. Joseph Prep and stayed home for college at Penn. Question Obviously you drafted quarterback two years ago with the number eight over pick Michael Pennix Jr. And you have first cousins Kirk Cousins still on the roster, although that he might be transitioning to get that Matt Ryan role at CBS as an Alice at the desk. Do you believe Kevin Stanski is the right guy? Because at the end of the day, anybody could coach this team. But for Michael P Jr because I think that's, that is the key.

[Ocho]

Hey, that, that's tough. That's tough. I'm. I'm not sure based on what I've seen. I know at one point Kevin Fancy with two time coach of the year. I, I think if the, the quarterback position is solidified and any, any can do something with Michael Penning Jr. If he feels Michael Pinning Jr. Is the future which I, which he has to be being draft, you know, so if he come back healthy, but I know he's going to want some security, he's gonna need, he gonna need a security blanket because Michael Pitting Jr. Is injury prone. So I'm not sure what that looks like. I don't think they're going to allow Kirk Cousins to leave because he will have, he will at some point if things don't go the way they should. He will be that backup in that security blanket for Stefanski because if you don't have a quarterback on, if you don't have a quarterback, he's going to be right back in the same situation he was back in Cleveland.

[Uncle No]

I agree.

[Ocho]

Now here he does have a much better supporting cast offensively, he has a much better supporting cast defensively. So, so I think they will. Well, no, not, not much better. Let me, let me take that back. Defensively in Cleveland he had a much better defense but offensively he has so many weapons at his disposal to work with. I think he's going, I think he's going to be okay.

[Uncle No]

Do we anticipate Stefanski calling plays? Because remember he gave up the play calling at mid season and turned those duties over to someone else. I'm assuming that he's going to call the plays. I think that probably was probably one of the contingency. The plans of why he got the job is that you call the plays. He's an offensive mind. Right. They need to get that offense. I don't know who they're going to hire as defense there. I'm sure there's some great coordinators out there. You can find a great coordinator. But head coach is a little bit more difficult, especially right if your expertise is on the offensive side. Well, head coach is a little more difficult because you have more things to worry about. You got to worry about the totality of the team. As a coordinator, all I'm worried about is the defense. I ain't got to worry about special teams. I ain't worried about no offensive line. I'm. As a matter of fact, I got position coach to have everything. I'm just Gonna die. I'm just gonna call. Hey, this is what we doing, right? We're gonna teach him this. Go ahead.

[Ocho]

Do you think he wants to take on that role? Why not just be the overseer of defense, offense, special teams as well and have an offensive coordinator that is also an offensive mind and allow him to do everything. So you can just be the head coach and oversee.

[Uncle No]

Well, you told you. You probably told Matt ryan and and Mr. Blank that you were gonna call plays. That's one of the reasons you probably got a job.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Uncle No]

And oh, I can fix him. I can get him up to speed, blah, blah. You see what I did with Baker Mayfield? You saw that? Hey, Joe Flacco. We was in the playoff with Joe Flacco. Yeah. So Atlanta. So two jobs have been filled. The New York Giants hire John Harbaugh. The Atlanta Falcons hire Kevin Stefanski.

[Ocho]

Well, you know Harbaugh hasn't signed his deal yet. They still still working on finally signed it.

[Uncle No]

He's basically get a situation where he deal directly with ownership and the general manager deals directly with ownership because the hiccup was he wanted to hire his own. As you remember, he wanted to hire his own general manager and he's used to reporting directly to ownership. Right. So they kept that in place. Also the Green Bay packers are keeping Matt LaFleur as their head coach. LaFleur had one year left on his contract extension. He signed in 22. Well, he signed a multi year contract extension that ESPN said is not a prove it deal but a real commitment. The two sides met early in the week to discuss the future direction of the organization. It was the first major decision by new team president Ed Policy who take. Who took over in July for Mark Murphy. It was Murphy who hired LaFleur in 2019 to replace Super bowl winning coach Mike McCarthy. You like you like this. Also there was reported that they were working on extension for LaFleur and Brian Gudiken who was the general manager. So look that would be. They got. Look you got the quarterback, Michael. Let's see how soon Michael can get back. You got a boatload of receivers.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Good receivers.

[Uncle No]

I think they need a corner though. The corner to just so. So is it mixing or Nixon? One of them get all he does get penalties.

[Ocho]

Nixon, Valentine. I can't think of the rest.

[Uncle No]

I like McKinney. Safety.

[Ocho]

I love him McKinney but McKinnon nice. He just led the NFL interceptions what.

[Uncle No]

A couple of years ago. Not too long this year. And I don't know what happened to. We had him on the show. Ocho. Yeah. Rashawn Gary. The man went like 10, 11 weeks without a sack.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I don't know what happened. It's hard to get them sex, boy. Made them sex hard to come by.

[Uncle No]

Now they shouldn't be. But look, I. I like this. I like this for Leflore. They shouldn't have lost this game. They should have put them away when they had an opportunity, and that didn't happen. And that's why they're. They're. You know, they've got to keep. They've got to keep Love because he gets nicked at some point in time every year. Be it concussions, be a hand, be it something.

[Ocho]

They got to keep Malik Willis. That's who they got to keep. Because when Malik came in, when Jordan Love had to go out.

[Uncle No]

Somebody gonna pay him. Go pay him. Starting money. Maybe it's Pittsburgh.

[Ocho]

Well, I like we. Oh, I like the way you think now. I like. I like the way you think. I like that.

[Uncle No]

Somebody. Somebody I believe. Somebody gonna play him, start his money. I like the way you think.

[Ocho]

When you say start the money. When you say start the money, we'll be talking.

[Uncle No]

I mean, that. That's. Sam Donald, Baker Mayfield. 33 million.

[Ocho]

Okay, okay, okay. That's team friendly right there. Friendly.

[Uncle No]

So that's. That's. That's what I think is going to happen with that situation. But Green Bay got pieces. You know, they got. They can run the football. The receivers just keep Christian Watson healthy. The other. The guy they got from Texas with, the guy from Texas, Golden, Matthew Golden. Y' all gotta give him chances, man. Y' all gotta give him opportunities.

[Ocho]

And stop that gadget with him now.

[Uncle No]

Let that man get down the field now. You're probably gonna lose. I mean, you're gonna lose some of them. I mean, you can't keep everybody. You got Reed, you got Romeo Dobbs. Yeah, you're gonna probably lose a couple of those guys. But Christian Watson, if you can just stay healthy. I do believe Matthew golden will get better in his second year than he was his first year. They got. They got to make it to something special. Remember? They laugh. They lost Kraft, the tight end with knee injury. He'll come back. He's a very reliable receiver. One of the better titles in the league. So I like. I like Green Bay, but it's puzzling to me that Rashad Gary with Michael Parsons on the other side, I mean, he got up to that great start. Ocho, he had, like, seven sacks, and I think seven. Seven and a half. He ended the Season with seven. Seven and a half.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that.

[Uncle No]

That.

[Ocho]

That tells you. That shows you just how difficult it is to get those sacks. Even with Mike on the other side and even with Michael Mike and his absence on. How difficult it is to get.

[Uncle No]

No, because like. Like a D. I was talking to DeMarcus where. And he's like, look, if I play 60 plays, I can suck 59 of them. All I gotta do is get one sack. If I get one sack every game, that's 17 sacks. Name a season. I'm not gonna make the Pro bowl with 17 sacks. Name a season that. I'm probably not going to be a first or second team. All probably. So that's the. That's the thing, Ocho. I can suck. He's like, I can suck 59 plays. I just need to be successful. What? Because I asked them. Gary Zimmerman, he was offensive tackle 93. Five years, all decade, two different decades, 80s in the 90s. I like, man, he just, like. He would just be beside himself if he gave up a sack. He like, Sharpie, you don't eat, say. He says, I only want the guy to touch the quarterback. I don't even want the quarterback. I only want my guy to pressure the quarterback. He said, because that joker suck. He can suck all day long, and if he gets one sack, he'll. Hero. Yeah. And I don't want to be a hero on my watch, you know?

[Ocho]

You know, it's funny when you explain the way DeMarcus we explained it, sucking 59 plays and just getting a sack once. If I do it 17 games, just one time, it's 17.

[Uncle No]

That's 17 sacks.

[Ocho]

You see how us saying it like that or the way he said it, how it sounds easy, but how difficult it is to actually achieve and attain something. That sounds so easy. Because if it was that easy, everybody have 17, you know, but, man, just.

[Uncle No]

Like pass catching is an art form, rushing to pass is not for him. Yeah, because, I mean, you doing things, but I'm doing things, but I'm saving something because I know I'm gonna get you out. Okay, you think I'm just gonna speed rush you all the time now? Okay, Do I bull you now? Do I hit you with the freedom? Do I put you in the spin cycle like the white freeney?

[Ocho]

Mm.

[Uncle No]

Do I post you? So, but it was. It. It was. It was. I think Green Bay. Look, I think Green Bay had to get this. I mean, of all the coaches out there, like, now it's being reported that Mike Tomlin is going to, you know, Be out of coaching in 26. Well, if. Cuz if you go back and think about it. Oo the coaches that left Pittsburgh, they never coached again. Yes. Chuck. No. Never coached again. Coach Cow. Everybody had these speculation about Coach K was coming back. He never came back.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I don't think. I don't think he wants to coach anymore. I. I don't think he wants to come back.

[Uncle No]

I mean, he walked away from 16, 17 million dollars a year. Hey, it's a lot of responsibility. I mean, if the player. Think about what you got. But just think about what you got because I got to worry about you 53 knuckleheads and I. And really, no, I only got to worry about like three or four of y'. All. For the most part. God's gonna do the right thing. Yeah, it's one or two that I got. Can't sleep. My phone on silent. I can't. Hotel. I can't. You laughing. I can't. Man.

[Ocho]

That's every. Every team is always. I mean, four is a bit much.

[Uncle No]

I say maybe you got one or two. Three maybe. Maybe. And one or two probably cool with each other.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle No]

So. So now we got the Giants a job field. We got the Falcons. John, Phil, we still got Tennessee. That's open. Still got Arizona. That's open. You got Pittsburgh. That's open.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle No]

Somebody else is open too. Arizona, Tennessee, Pittsburgh. We got Giantsville, we got Raiders. Raiders are still open.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle No]

Yep.

[Ocho]

And you, you got to think those teams also, man, those teams you go to. You understand the issues that they having right now. You got you. I mean, you got to go in there with a plan.

[Uncle No]

Oh yeah, for sure.

[Ocho]

You got. You got to go in there with a plan. Because if you don't have a plan, what at least is gonna be short.

[Uncle No]

Yeah, you got to go in that thing is Bob the Builder, man.

[Ocho]

Because you know, you know, owners have expectations. We bringing somebody in thinking you're going. You're going to be the one to turn and change this thing around.

[Uncle No]

Man. Also, we haven't gotten an opportunity to talk about what we were doing in New York.

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[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy, Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It's ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect podcast network. Another team who ain't going to the playoff? The Chiefs.

[Uncle No]

What's a rap?

[Nav Green]

It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now then Drake May up there.

[Uncle No]

Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy Matthew Stafford. Where did Nicks at? He ain't too far behind. He did all this talking. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro.

[Nav Green]

Is crazy, bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

[Uncle No]

Hey, he should be in that conversation. In what conversation?

[Nav Green]

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[Uncle No]

The collab with Netflix. And we got an opportunity to walk the red carpet. We got an opportunity to meet Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, but we haven't had an opportunity to talk about the movie. The movie is based on a true event. They added a twist on it. So we. I don't want. We don't want to give you too much away, but.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Uncle No]

And I think it was 2018 in Miami Lakes. They got a CI game about potentially money being some of cash being in the home. They get a warrant and they go in. And in that home, there were actually $24 million in cash. In the movie, it was 20 million. But Matt Damon, they're all on the police force. So that's the question that we were asking everybody. You go into a home with $20 million in cash. What's your play here? You take it all. You take some, you take none. Is reported that they turned everything in, in actuality. So you said they turned 24 million in. They probably. It was probably like 35, 40 in the house up.

[Ocho]

But easily, you gotta understand, especially in situations like this, when you get a tip like that, when you get a tip like that, you know it's inside. You know, it's the inside job. It's inside. We gonna give you this. You know, I don't. I don't know. I'm not gonna put too much on it, but you have to have people that you trust. When you go in there, it can't be like in the movie American Gangster when they found that I was in that trunk and he may do turn all of it in. And you had the whole task force looking at him like you were crazy. That's life changing money. That's life altering money. And I know you're supposed to be honest and yeah, techni serve and integrity and morals and all this. Man, the hell with that. If I run across $20 million. Listen, we gonna think of a plan and we keeping it.

[Uncle No]

Ocho.

[Ocho]

I'm not. Hey, Unc man, listen. See, you see what I'm talking about? See this? We have disagreement and I'm have to offer you, I'm gonna have to.

[Uncle No]

I'm gonna have you enjoy. I want no partner, but I don't want him. Okay, I might get a partner, but I don't want him as a partner.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, 20. 20 million. You got to think we police officers. We own a police officer salary.

[Uncle No]

You already do that. 35.

[Ocho]

We make 35, 000. And we run across 20 million. Hold on. We run across 20 million in a house with. If, if a house has 24 million in it, that means whoever's making that kind of money, they, they can. They ain't missing that. They ain't missing that. Anybody that just had 24 million just stashing the wall, that ain't.

[Uncle No]

Man, that's a part of this book. So. Matt Damon, Ben Affleck characters Tiana Taylor Kajay Steven Young Richard Chandler Maria Sandino Moreno Kyle Chandler. Kyle Chandler. What's, what's uh, uh, Sandino Moreno? What's her first name? Sasha Kage, Catalina. Now, there's a lady that's in the house. She's there. She probably calls, but anyway, she says her grandmother's house or she's just there. Grandmother, they, blah, blah, blah. So for the song. So they come in and they, you know, hey, they brought the dog in there. The dog smells money. Like, you know, they have dog to smell, fentanyl to smell, cocaine, a weed, whatever the case may be. But this dog is trained to sniff out money. Dog go in the house, go crazy. Go crazy and start hammering out the walls. And, and from the, from in the beginning, I'm like, okay, are they good guys or they bad guys? They gonna keep this or what they gonna do? Hold on.

[Ocho]

You gotta understand certain people that are.

[Uncle No]

Good, good guys, that money turn, you know, to see, to see that kind of money. I. But we're gonna check, we're gonna check back in Probably Wednesday, because this, this will give you an opportunity. If you haven't watched it Saturday. I mean, Friday when it came out, you haven't watched it Saturday, Sunday, maybe. So hopefully by Wednesday everybody will have an opportunity to, To, To. To watch it. And so we won't give away too much, but we want you to go watch it and then we could all talk about it. And you're like, okay, because I don't think you're gonna see the plot. I don't think you're gonna see, because what you think's gonna happen probably is not gonna happen in the way that you think it's gonna happen. And so it's gonna be very, very interesting because I didn't. A lot of the characters I didn't think was gonna be in play. So we'll see. But I thought, I thought Tiana, Tiana Taylor, I thought they did a great. I thought they did an unbelievable job. Ben Affleck and, And. And Matt Damon together. They, they. They're they're ma. Their magic from the time. I think the first time that they, you know, wrote something together, directed something together, was goodwill hunting Matt Damon and I think Robin Williams was on screen. But, you know, I like being. I like being Affleck, the accountant. I don't know if you got an opportunity to see the accountant. I thought the account is unbelievable. He directed Argo. But you. But, you know, Matt Damon and the Born Identity and Born Supremacy. I like Matt Damon. I like him.

[Ocho]

Yeah. My. One of my favorites, obviously, my favorite Ben Affleck movie. He's done some good ones, but I don't think nothing is as good as the town.

[Uncle No]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Massachusetts. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Him and Jeremy Renner. That's a classic. Boy, that. That is a classic.

[Uncle No]

So it's. Yeah. I want you guys. You guys watch it. And then let's, let's. Let's reconvene. Ocho and I will reconvene on Wednesday and then we can get more into detail because we'll get. I want to give you a chance to. Because I don't want to spoil the ending, but I know you're not going to see. I don't know. I know you're not going to figure it out, what's really going on until the. To the very, very end. And still, I don't think you're going to be sure that what's going to happen. Because I'm sitting there, I'm thinking like, God damn it.

[Ocho]

Got a nice, A nice. Got a nice plot twist to it.

[Uncle No]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho]

Oh yeah, very nice to it.

[Uncle No]

So go watch that, go watch the rip on Netflix. Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Teonna Taylor, Kyle Chandler, Steven Young. They got some. They got some.

[Ocho]

I know one thing, they could have changed that guy.

[Uncle No]

I'm just trying to recall my head Kathleen.

[Ocho]

They could have changed that.

[Uncle No]

I hope I, I ma', am, I hope I got your name right. I really do. I, I know I got the Catalina and the Sedino. So hopefully.

[Ocho]

You know, they could have changed the case.

[Uncle No]

Taylor, Steven Young, Catalina Sandino Moreno, Sasha Kaje and Cal Chandler. Catalina Sandino, Moedo Moeno.

[Ocho]

Hey, you know, hey, if we was in there, but when it wouldn't have been no movie. But yeah.

[Uncle No]

Cause I go to the house, I'll give you about 4 or 5 billion. I'm up out of there. I let somebody else.

[Ocho]

How much? 4, 5, 4, 5.

[Uncle No]

I don't need, I don't need. I don't need about four or five of them Home Depot buckets. They already got it marked out like 150, 250, 300. We got it all nice and packaged and everything.

[Ocho]

Listen, you say you, you want to turn something in. We're going to turn in a million.

[Uncle No]

A million dollars.

[Ocho]

We're turning a million. That's all we found. That's, that's all we found. Yeah.

[Uncle No]

We going to jail.

[Ocho]

We keeping 19. We keep it 19. I don't know. We can split, we can split it down. We can split it or have you have you want to.

[Uncle No]

You're gonna bust it down. So you're gonna bust it down three ways.

[Ocho]

Three ways. We're gonna bust it down two ways.

[Uncle No]

I don't know if I can trust you, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Trust who? I can't trust you. You the one want to turn my yes. Nah, nah.

[Uncle No]

Oh, why we just can't keep. Why we can't keep 15. We got seven and a half a piece. I don't like that oo seven and a half worker. Hey, think about it. We could work a couple more years. Hey get to get to where we can get our pension.

[Ocho]

Work who a.

[Uncle No]

Couple of more years I'm getting, I'm getting on desk. I'm getting on desk duty, man.

[Ocho]

I'm putting my two weeks notice, man. I catch all man.

[Uncle No]

Guys, make sure you go catch up. Check out the rip on Netflix. I promise you, I promise you you won't regret it. Ocho. It's time to play a fave presented by prize picks. Drake May at least one passing touchdown. Hell yeah.

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Uncle No]

Boy, that's that's gonna be a game there.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle No]

Good game. I'm gonna say more. C.J. stroud more than 0.5. Yeah. He'll have at least five yards passing, 0.5 yards. So he, he needs just have one yard more. Caleb Williams less than 220 yards. Man, that weather gonna be something crazy.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle No]

That's what got me concerned. Ocho is the weather ideal situation. Yeah. He gonna pass for that. They do have the number one rushing attack in football. They could always lean on that.

[Ocho]

That, that's something. That's something you can lean on. And weather like that, lean on the running game and only throw when you have to throw.

[Uncle No]

I would say less. Less than 220. Matthew Stafford less than 262. So that means he got to have less than 263 passing yard. You think you have more or less?

[Ocho]

Oh, I. I think.

[Uncle No]

I think more did.262 in those conditions.

[Ocho]

Yeah, because I. I just saw him play against Philly. Was that last year in the snow? Was that last year snow? He was still letting that thing rip in the snow.

[Uncle No]

Man. Jeez. I'm gonna go Kayla Williams more. I'm gonna go Matt Ryan less. I mean, Stafford. Stafford. Oh, Matt Ryan. They have to be best friend. I'm gonna take Stafford to go left. I'm gonna go Caleb Williams more. Matt Stafford less. That's the money. Play 25 to win 137.50. Download the app today. Use Coach Shannon to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup prize picks. It's good to be right.

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[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect podcast network. Another team who ain't going to the playoff.

[Uncle No]

The Chiefs, what's a wrap?

[Nav Green]

It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now, then Drake May up there.

[Uncle No]

Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy Matthew Stafford. Where did Nicks at? He ain't too far behind. He did all this stalking. What Matthew Stafford is doing, statistically, bro, is crazy.

[Nav Green]

Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

[Uncle No]

Hey, he should be in that conversation. In what conversation?

[Nav Green]

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[Uncle No]

All right, guys, we're gonna get you here out of. Gonna get you here, get you out of here on this. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Ocho]

Hey, matter of fact, you know what happened before we get to Q A tonight, man? I had. Man, I had a fight, man. And I know. We family chat. We family. I can tell y', all, man. A fight with some dude named Tony out here, man.

[Uncle No]

I know they deployed it. I know there's a catch to it, but I'll play along. Tony who? Ocho?

[Ocho]

Nah, he just said he don't like me saying. Saying his name backwards. I asked him why not.

[Uncle No]

Why like you said his name backwards, Ocho?

[Ocho]

I mean, Tony Backless is why.

[Uncle No]

Lord have mercy. Chat. See what I go through. Kemper Norwood Jr. Man, I thought was about to be like, Florida Evanston Broncos lost. Damn, damn, damn, man. I was gonna be so upset. Kemper. I ain't gonna even lie. Jones in 1984. What's good you think about Matt? You think about Matt signing that contract as a huge packers fan. I love it. Cause he's good play caller. Your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, look, I mean, he's been in the playoffs for the most part since he's been there. You know, I think the only time I was disappointed in him is that when they got Tampa and they kicked the field goal and they didn't let Aaron Rodgers. You got an mvp and you didn't let him try to make something happen. But of that, yeah, I think he's a great play caller. I absolutely do. Marcus Frago donated a hundred dollars to give his wife a shout out. May I get a shout out to say happy birthday to my beautiful wife, Morgan? She loves the channel and we've been subscribers since episode one. Keep up the great work, fellas, and thank you. Marcus, thank you for your support, you and your wife, Morgan. Happy birthday. Hopefully Marcus took you somewhere. Y' all Went to a nice dinner, maybe movie. Do people do. What is it? Is it dinner and a movie or is it movie and dinner? Which is it?

[Ocho]

That's a good one. Can you do both in the same night?

[Uncle No]

I tried it. I was sleep. Because once I eat.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I'm tired.

[Uncle No]

I can't do no moving. No five o' clock moving. They go to dinner. Eight. No. So now you gotta pick one or the other, man. Pick one or the other. We too old. Yeah, man.

[Ocho]

We could do that.

[Uncle No]

I mean, I used to have the patience with Job. I mean, I could just sit there in the movies and watch three. I mean, it was nothing for me to go like every Saturday to watch at least two movies. I mean, I've done three. I've done six in a day. But I can't do it now. I ain't got the patience. I just don't. True. Infamous Stephen A. And all Darnold haters owe that man an apology as the Niners fans. Can't say foot or bow. Bang. Bang. Nine or bang. Hey, Sam. Darl's been playing his tail off. Been playing his tail off. Hey, they might tear that contract up. Hey, come on, we gonna go and do right by you. I don't think they can do it right now because they got Spoon they got to deal with. I don't know if you can keep both Spoon and Wolen.

[Ocho]

Somebody got to go.

[Uncle No]

You can do that. And they have to do something with Ernest Jones. That's a good problem to have problem have connection. You have to do something with JSN Boy.

[Ocho]

He finna reset the market.

[Uncle No]

You'd be absolutely right. Lavar4 Uncle Noo. Do y' all think that was Sean's last game coaching the Bills? Who's more favorable matchup for the Broncos? Houston's a pat. There are no favorable matchups without your starting quarterback. There is no starting quarterback. There is no. There is no backup quarterback. That said, look, you give me one look, you're at home, but you're going to have to play a near flawless game and your defense is going to have to take the ball away on multiple occasions. I mean, I guess. I mean, I was. I would say Houston for the simple fact CJ Will give you an opportunity for a couple of bad. For a couple of bad plays. But New England, man, they. They good. They. They fundamentally sound. They can run the football. Stefan Diggs making plays. Boote, those tight ends with Hooper and Hunter. Henry, that running game that you got.

[Ocho]

Ocho, very nice.

[Uncle No]

Henderson and Stevenson.

[Ocho]

Henderson.

[Uncle No]

Damn. Oh, man. Well, I'm gonna go to the Super Bowl. Damn it. We going to the Super Bowl. Forget that. Do you hear me? Send a shout out to me. To me and my lady. We just got engaged. DJ And Thalia. And we have a baby boy on the way. Jakir, Amir, Gillian. Okay. Congratulations. Getting engaged and got a baby boy on the way. That's the way to do it. That way to do it. Congratulations. Hopefully everybody's okay. Can't wait. Hey, let us know when the. So we give you a. What? What you say congratulations on the marriage. What do you do? Is there something that you say? I mean, you better get married. So, I mean, you probably should know that. Who you.

[Ocho]

I'm gonna get married. We finna get married.

[Uncle No]

I'm waiting to say I work out for you first.

[Ocho]

Oh, no. I told you, I'm trying to save money. I thought we were gonna have a wedding at the same time.

[Uncle No]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho]

You know, in Vegas. You know, you're in Vegas, you do a dude wedding, you get half off.

[Uncle No]

We just go to a grocery store, get a cake that's a couple of days old. We're dressing up. We'll. We'll. We're frosted ourselves. Bareface. 206. Thank you, Minnesota. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Minnesota. Cause you might have made Seattle a beast. Might have made Seattle a beast. Excuse. Yeah. G. Hernandez. Rams. No. Mahomey. Burl. Lamar. That was Josh's golden opportunity, and he blew it. Teams are only getting better in the afc, and he might not get a ring in his career. Yeah, you're right. I mean, you got to think about it. Danny went to the super bowl in his second year. That great, historic season in which he threw for 5,000 yards and had 48 touchdowns and he never got back. John had to deal with that for 14 years. He's really good. He's great. But Peyton had to deal with that for a number of years. He. He's good. But. But everybody doesn't have the career like. Like Brady. Brady's first year as a starter, his second season of the league. Super bowl takes a lot of pressure off you. Mahomes second season of the league, first season started Super Bowl. Everybody does. Everybody don't get to have that luxury, man. So. Yeah. And until. Until. Until he gets there and he gets it done. It's the same thing. We're going to have these conversations not just with Josh, we're going to have that with Lamar, we're going to have that with Joe Burrow until they get there and win it. That's just the way it goes.

[Ocho]

Got to get that monkey back.

[Uncle No]

You got to TS car wash detail service. Josh never going to win a ring. Burrow was going get one before him. Now Bears vs Seattle, Pats vs the Broncos. Heard it here first. Philly talk that with PA number one, Russia. Top O line, best tight end room defense. Keep him in the game. Keep that same energy for Allen. Y' all have for Hertz and Lamar. Allen had as many turnovers today as Hurts had in his whole playoff career.

[Ocho]

Did you listen tonight or you just. Are you just.

[Uncle No]

Guys. Oh, guys that have won. That won the mvp. We judge them harsher because you have an mvp. Lamar gets put in the cat. Think about it. There hasn't only been. There are less than 10 quarterbacks that have multiple MVPs, and you want us to judge Lamar like he's a normal guy and is impossible. We didn't judge LeBron like a normal guy when he had those MVPs and no rings. We didn't judge Jordan like a normal guy when he had MVPs with no rings. When you get MVPs, you get to another. Another level of expectations that comes along with it. Right now, Josh. Lamar. Josh. And Joe has underperformed based on the talent that they have. Lamar, because he has two MVPs. There are a lot of guys that has one MVP at the quarterback position. There are very few players that have multiple MVPs. Lamar is the only quarterback with multiple MVPs and no super bowl appearances. Now, he's still in only year eight or nine, so he have another five to 10 years to get there. But until then, come on, guys, don't make it that much complicated. Y' all know how they did Steve Young and he was in the shadow of Joe. Y' all remember when he beat San Diego and Gary Plummer took. He said, get this off my back. And Gary Plummer took the monkey off his back. Come on. What are we doing here? I mean, I. I just don't know. I. I just don't know what y'. All. I don't. I don't. Eric, flag 80. Go hawk. Time is tight in Seattle for next visitor. Yeah, I mean, y' all the bro. The Broncos play the early game. They play it, I think three Eastern, right? Five o'. Clock.

[Ocho]

Five.

[Uncle No]

Five o'. Clock. Bronco play at five.

[Ocho]

At three. Yeah, yeah, you're right. At three. So, yeah, yeah, but yeah, because I land. I land. I landed. I landed four. So I'm gonna be watching. Watch the first half on the plane.

[Uncle No]

I think that's what time to play? Let me see what time thing goes.

[Ocho]

Yeah, they probably. Probably 3:30. Because they say 5. Said 5:30. I looked at the schedule.

[Uncle No]

Next week. At three. Is it 3:00pm 3 Eastern. Which is one. Which is one o' clock next week. Which would be one. Which would be. Huh? Right. One mountain right. Yeah. Brutal. Metalhead. Then why does the media keep saying the Texans have the number one defense? We already saw that episode. Because you do. But it's close. It's like 278 to 283. You do. I mean Seattle and Houston have the two best defenses and scoring defense. And I think Broncos are number three. So when you look at scoring defense, total yards defense, you look at interceptions, you look at sacks. Clearly the Broncos have. Broncos got like 71 sacks. Irregular season in the postseason. Nobody's close to that. But you look at the points Seattle gave up. What did Seattle give up? Nine. What did give up? Six. They gave us six points today. What did the Patriots give up last? What the Patriots give up last week? Who the Patriots play? Hell, I don't forgot who the players play. But if the. Oh yeah, the Charger. Yeah. What was the final score? 16 to 3. So they gave up 3. And then you look at the Texans, they gave up six. So six.

[Ocho]

All defense.

[Uncle No]

Six. Three in the Broncos gave up 30. But Buffalo has a better offense than all the teams that we mentioned. Trill Brown, 3709. Oh, if the Broncos win at all, you gotta double that. 5,900, bro. That'll be the most improbable run in NFL history.

[Ocho]

Without your starting quarterback.

[Uncle No]

Yeah, Devin. 7,606. Little Bo Peep had trouble throwing over his sheep. Truso Cat 67. Broncos need to sign Tom Brady as a QB. I don't think he want to do that to his team. I definitely don't think he want to go against his team. Rev Debo 73. Can we stop talking Allen? That Mahomes talk now? Mahomes is better than Allen. The last two years. If we're just talking about play, we know Mahomes. Nobody that's currently played is more accomplished. But over the last two years, Patrick Mahomes has not been the Patrick Mahomes that we're used to seeing. It's okay, guys. Yeah. Even if you say Josh Allen, even if you say X, Y and Z, that doesn't diminish what Patrick Mahomes has already accomplished. Sometimes I think when you say somebody is better, that means you're saying, well, all the awards that they won. No, this will update you. This will update your league the last two years. Patrick Mahomes is Mr. Provo. Josh Allen has made the Pro Bowl. Josh Allen was the first team all Pro last year. Josh Allen was the mvp. You don't get to keep saying because I have more Super Bowls than said player, that player is better. Right? Doesn't work like that. I mean, because if that's the argument, that means you're saying right now that LeBron and Steph Curry is better than Nicola Jokic and he. They're better. He's better than. Than. Than. Than Shay. That's what you're saying. If we're just going to use your analogy because somebody has more rings, you're saying right now that LeBron James and Steph Curry are better than Nicola Jokic and Shay. Gil, are you willing to say that? Absolutely. Kevin Boat Knight. Our Niners were resilient all year, but all the injuries took their toll tonight. We'll be back strong next year. Gotta keep these guys healthy, man. You guys have been dealing with. With injuries, especially in the latter part of the season for the last couple years. Nothing but the tide. Kenneth Walker ran through them boys like a knife through butter. Yeah, he did. And it seemed like every time they pull, they got the tackle on the DB.

[Ocho]

Every time.

[Uncle No]

Chantel Porter, 66. 74. Broncos will not beat Seattle or the Pats or the Patriots. Excuse me, but I sure hate that about Bo. Nick's prayers to him also. Josh Allen is overrated. No, he's not. I do not believe Josh Allen is overrated. I don't. Alejandro Bernell II OO Love the pod. What y' all been doing since day one. Love y' all growing up striving and could give my daughter Leila a happy birthday shout out. She turns 8 at midnight and she wanted me to ask you guys much. Yes, Leila. Happy 8th birthday.

[Ocho]

Happy birthday, Cheese.

[Uncle No]

Chuck E. Cheese. That's what I heard. That's what you do with. You know, even your young girls and boys, they go to Chuck E. Cheese. I don't know. I don't think. I don't think little young girls won't go to David.

[Ocho]

I know Chuck e. Cheese at 8 years old. Disney World, Disneyland.

[Uncle No]

What if you ain't close to Disney World or Disneyland?

[Ocho]

Get on the plane and you get close to it.

[Uncle No]

What if you ain't got what? What? What if you got Chuck E. Cheese money? Ain't got Disneyland or Disney World money.

[Ocho]

Okay, that's a good one. That's a good one. I Like that.

[Uncle No]

I see.

[Ocho]

I like that.

[Uncle No]

Okay. Cali. 1, 2, 3, 4. No Mahomes, no Jackson, no burrow in his way. I'm afraid Josh will never win a Super Bowl. I don't like to say never, but I don't think it gets any easier because looking at it, I think Drake May is going to get better. I think Bo Nick's going to get better. I. I think they're going to get some. Some. They're going to improve Lamar's offensive line. They're going to get some help on the defensive side of the football. Yeah, I think. I think the Chargers will improve. Jacksonville's not going anywhere. The Houston Texans aren't going anywhere. You're right. It doesn't get any either. It does not. It does not. And when you have an opportunity, when the opportunity presented itself, you got to take full advantage of it because you don't know if and when those opportunities are going to present themselves again. That Cooks play with the same play the Bills were rewarded against the Pats early this season. And the same Kobe, Kobe and Shakur play, for example. I don't remember to play off the top of my head. I don't. But I take your word for it. Jim Miller, 45.59 up where the smoke you have for Lamar. Josh Allen played worse than Lamar. Again. Y' all just come to leave messages. Y' all didn't hear what Ocho and I said that Josh Allen played bad and this loss have to be pinned on him. But what you guys tried to do. Y' all remember when Lamar Jackson won the MVP that year? And how many turnovers did he have against Tennessee? They were the number one seed. How many turnovers did he have? Y' all remember when he was the number one seed and Kansas City came there? Many turnovers did Lamar have? See, what you do is that you try to excuse. Every time Lamar plays bad, you blame somebody else. And then when, when, when, when, when, when Josh Allen plays bad, if somebody else you like, oh, it's all Josh. It's all Josh. I have never, ever heard you or anybody say this was on Lamar. You blame Z Flowers, F of the ball. You blame Mark Andrews. But what about those turnovers Lamar had? Ocho and I laid it out. Ocho say, hey, oh, this old Josh. Four out of five turnovers. Yes, I, I agree. Ocho, I agree. He had a golden opportunity. He was the best quarterback remaining in the afc. He's the only quarterback that was remaining that had an mvp. And he gagged it. He did. We said that. But y' all don't want to hear because if we say something about. About Lamar, we stepping and fetching, we cooning, we tap dancing. Y' all don't want the truth. Y' all don't. Y' all don't want it. Because when. Go back and look at Tennessee, when he won the mvp, his first mvp. Go look at that game. Y' all blamed everybody else. Y' all blame the D. Still. Y' all still do it. Look at the defense. Defense, defense, defense. He turned the ball over three times. His defense, Defense, defense. The Buffalo game last week, Marquette, you catch the balls. What about those turnovers? They won't say anything about that, huh, guys?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle No]

In six games, Josh Allen had no turnovers and they still lost. Yep. None. He had a lead with 13 seconds and they got the ball on the 20. He got the opposing team on the 20 yard line and he loses. When it's. When it's. When it's like that, it's hard to put it on the quarterback. I left the field, I keep leaving the field. And when I leave the field, Ocho, we got the lead. I come back on the field, we're down. I said, you know what? I' ma lead the field again. I lead the field with 13 seconds, I don't see the ball again. They changed the rules, Ocho. You know, it used to be the first team to score an overtime win. They changed the rules, and everybody's going to get a possession. Now they only bring the measuring sticks out. They got. If they got a computer chip in the football. They changed the rule. So they've given him every opportunity to try to win. To try to win. Ocho, they changed two rules. Most quarterbacks get one. He's gotten two rule changes and he still hasn't won.

[Ocho]

You're trying to get him one now.

[Uncle No]

He did not play. I mean, he played well, but I still can't overlook. I mean, it's hard for. It's hard for me to put that Brandon Cooks turn over him because he put it in his chest, Ocho. And the guy had Brandon Cook let him take the ball out of his hands. But he's got to play better. He's got to play better. I mean, I don't know how he plays better, especially against Kansas City, because, I mean, you score 36 points and you lose with no turnovers. But guys, this is not a comparison. Neither one of them have a championship. So what are we doing? This is not where we're comparing Mahomes and Brady or. Or this guy Or. Or this guy, that guy. That neither have a championship. If you want to compare Kobe, LeBron, Jordan, Magic Bird, Kareem, have at it. But we're talking about neither one of the guys nor won a. A championship. So what are we doing here? Oh, and what do we do? What do y'. All. What do y' all want from Ocho and I? Because we told you Josh didn't play well enough for them to win, and he cost in the bank game with those turnovers. We said that earlier, but that's not what you wanted to hear. So what, you want us to just. Hey, just type in what you want me and Ocho to say next time, and that's what we'll say. But guess what? We don't have to talk about Lamar or Josh Allen until what next what, September? Ocho this season over old school 55, 13. Sensei, Unc. Ocho, what do you think the Bills need to get to get them over the hump? Seeing Allen broke down at the podium was hard to watch. Yeah, he's invested. It hurt. The more you invest and it doesn't work out, the more it hurts. They're gonna find him a number one receiver. Gonna find him a number one receiver. I mean, they got two really good tight ends. I like Kincaid coming out. I like Dawson Knox. They can run the ball. James Cook led the league in Russian. They need a big guy. I mean, their best receiver is five. How tall is secure? Five' ten. Sh.

[Ocho]

He looks shorter than that.

[Uncle No]

I wonder how tall he is. He's 6 foot. Oh, damn. He is, say, 6 foot 190, which means he probably 5 11.

[Ocho]

He looks small like that.

[Uncle No]

I. I would say that. I would say. I mean, they got Oliver. They got Russo. They. They bought in Bosa and Vanessa. Shaq Thompson played really well for him. They got Milano. Poor. You was out because of a hamstring. The only thing I think they really need on show is. Is. Is a. A receiver. Is it receiver? A bona fide.

[Ocho]

Bona fide number one team.

[Uncle No]

Miller 68. The crazy thing is, I think Stidham is a better passer than Knicks. I think you've been drinking, and I think you need to put the bottle down.

[Ocho]

Unc ain't got no faith in the Broncos.

[Uncle No]

See you See how you talking to. See, I. I. Ocho, we won, and we gonna win next week. We had both. Oh, oh.

[Ocho]

So y' all not gonna win.

[Uncle No]

All I know, you over here crying and slinging snot when Burrow was out.

[Ocho]

Hold on, hold on now. Hold on. But let's. Listen, you. You saying y' all don't have a chance game.

[Uncle No]

Anything can happen. But. But I would just like you wouldn't bet no money on Flacco and. And brother Brownie. Okay.

[Ocho]

Yeah, okay. I see what you're doing. Exactly.

[Uncle No]

It's my 57th birthday. Can I get a shout out? Happy birthday, Jordy.

[Ocho]

Happy birthday.

[Uncle No]

You go to brunch with your girls. You're going to church tomorrow. I mean, what. What's going on? What you. What you. What you doing to celebrate? 57. Another one around the sun. Some people didn't get an opportunity to see their birthday, but you got an opportunity to see yours. Hopefully you did something special. And thank the man above for waking you up to allow you to see another one.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Matter. Of course, she did turn 57, too, huh? Well, if you. If you single, you know, Unc, man, you know, huh? I'm just trying to play a little matchmaker.

[Uncle No]

I got this. I got this under control. I got it under control. And cavalier. Keep it real. Now Bo Nicks is ruled out for the AFC championship game. Can still get it done. Defense gonna have to stand on the head.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle No]

Cause it's not like they can. It's not like they got a running game. It's not like they got Chicago's running game or Seattle's running game or New England's running game. That ain't what they got. Yeah, that's not what they have. I mean, What. They have 70 yards rushing today? If that. They got the work cut out for them. These are two really, really good defenses. 1. I mean, they're going to face the Texans. They're going to face the Pats. A really, really good defense. The Patriots can run the football. Play, action, pass. They got guys that can make plays. And. Excuse me. Can he get it done? Yes. But they're going to be underdogs in their own building, and all the money is going to be going on the road team. Aaron Jones. Shannon. Always disrespecting his viewers. Flag football. Really? Okay. See how the Broncos play next week. Keep that cognac on hand. What you. How about disrespectful? No, I said y' all didn't. You did. Some. Some of the viewers didn't understand the rules. I explained the rules about what a catch is because your team lost or you wanted to come on here and type. You can't say foot or ball. You said that was a catch. I told you it wasn't a catch. And I told you why it wasn't a Catch. But y' all get mad at me. Carl Cheffers told you why it wasn't a catch. Get mad at him. Get mad at the people that wrote the rules. Don't get mad at the person that explained the rules to you. BS Taylor Lever Cooks didn't fight to keep possession. The ball was straight strip, right. When he went down. I mean, Because he was going down. It's one thing like when somebody coming, they tried to pull the ball, tug the ball, right? But when you in the air, it's hard to hold on to it because you're not staying. Your feet are not on the ground. That's why it's easy to get the ball out when you're up in there.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle No]

You see a lot of guys when they try to die when they dive, what they do, somebody coming in there, punch the ball right out. But it's like when you in the air, are you like, damn, you're not. Your mind doesn't tell you to clutch the ball when you're in the air like that. It doesn't, right? And then by the time it's bang, bang. He got the ball with his back. He got the ball, ripped it out. Because think about it. You break because it's natural, Ocho. Because when you brace a look, the ball's gonna come away from your body a little bit anyway. And that's all he needs. So when you bounce, the ball comes away a little bit and he's already rolling over the top.

[Ocho]

He got it right there. Hey.

[Uncle No]

All in one potion. Ocean Cowboys fan 2254. Dad actually caught the ball. NFL rules official stay consistent especially in the playoffs. Dad, what did they say? What did they say? Dance did not catch it. Dan and I have argued with this on Twitter. If Cowboy fan. If you go to the ground, get up and hand the ball to the official. Leo 6198 58. Thanks for giving knowledge on the rules. Some fans only want to listen to your input when it matches their agenda. Learning you absolutely right. And I, you know. Oh, yeah. You like my opinion if it coincides with what you think. But then when it doesn't. I just told you what the rule. I don't. I don't. Hey, the rules are the rules. The rules don't know. Well, you know what? I think we need to favor Buffalo today. You know what? Now let's favor Seattle. The rules are the rules. And if we have to use the rules when they come into play, we have to use the rules when they come into play. And. And I remember we was up in the booth. And it's like, man, he might have been down. I said, no. He got to maintain possession throughout. The catch and pay was like, that's right. You're right. You're right, you're right. Yeah. That was no catch, if anything. And if the ball had hit the ground, they were gonna say incomplete. Which I'm glad he held onto it. Cause I didn't want to give Josh Allen another crack anyway.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle No]

Lotus Pod. The same thing happened last year in the AFC championship game. And they gave it to Kansas City.

[Nav Green]

Whoo.

[Uncle No]

Pig Sue E Ply Buff Pline Bluff, Arkansas native here. ISO is a hog go. So after seeing ISO on here for the first time, ain't Mr. Pod says, Bring on some MMA guests. Stay up. Appreciate it. Oh, man, it's hard, man. People be in the bed. Josh R. 2808. No one cut breaks down football like nightcap uncle no show the best. Never do it. Josh took a hard loss. How do y' all push through the hard moments of the game? When things don't go your way, you want make you better it and see. That's why we say you celebrate the wins. But let me tell you something. Most people will tell you winning doesn't feel as good as losing hurts. You'll never. I've never gotten the joy of winning. The high that winning, like the hurt that lose to lose. Ain't nothing like that, bro. And I love winning at that hurting. But I think also, I. I don't. You know, look, I don't. I don't really remember. There's some, like. I can damn near tell you every loss that. That re. I'm talking about all of them. But the. Really. I can tell you. I can tell you damn near every loss I had from college to. To the NFL, be it Denver, Baltimore. I can tell you. I mean, I. It's not. It's not a whole lot of losses that I've had in the last second. Normally, I was on the other side, you know, I had John. We were doing more come from behind and snatching, you know, victory from the jaw to defeat. But, yeah, it definitely makes you hungry. It makes you want to get back out there. It makes you make you want to get right back in that situation.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle No]

Almighty James Ocho. How was Brazil?

[Ocho]

Awesome. Awesome. First. First time here. First time here. I've been. I've been all over the world. This is my first time being able to come to Brazil.

[Uncle No]

Great.

[Ocho]

I gotta come again. I gotta come again. The people, the atmosphere, the food was good. Hospitality was awesome. Now obviously I got, I got an opportunity to meet, I mean two legends icons that I look up to and in Brazilian Ronaldo and Neymar. And man, listen, words can't describe that experience, man. But just know it was worth that seven hour flight.

[Uncle No]

Better you to me. Quincy Chapman, can you wish me and my twin brother Quentin a happy 43rd birthday? Them damn twins. Yes. Quentin, happy 43rd birthday, Quincy. Man, thank you guys. Thank you for supporting nightcap. Thank you for watching. And Quentin, happy 43rd birthday. Hopefully you did something fun today. TJ MA21. Can y' all wish my book wish. Wish my boy A happy 28th birthday. It was the 19th MLK. Yep. Happy birthday, boy. Yeah, I mean you always, you give us a name that would definitely help, but happy birthday. Enjoy. Do something fun and go Broncos. Francisco Garcia NFL film finally giving Ocho's flower People don't remember the game against the Chargers and the two following games that he was a beast, that boy. Oh, so you put 200 on the charges or was that. Oh, you went back to back charges and saints or. Same charges.

[Ocho]

I had 206 against the Chargers. Then the next game I had 209. And then after that 209 game, I had 190.

[Uncle No]

See Ocho, you should have said, hey man, they give me three 200 yard game back to back to back. Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, huh.

[Uncle No]

Don't you wish you like, man, if I had known that. I said throw me a hitch, throw me a smoke or something. I'm going to get up out. I'm get that. Hey, I get 200 to lay down.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, man. Oh, hey. There was some day long. See, the funny thing about it is is you see how you take the game serious. I was out there just having fun. They don't tell me nothing. They don't tell me I'll be out there just catching the ball, talking trash and that.

[Uncle No]

That's it.

[Ocho]

I'm just playing like a little kid. I don't be paying a pan. I find out my stat line.

[Uncle No]

When the game find out, then I got you. You had them 10 yards. Mike. Mike. What's up? I saw the rip and it's good. When are you and Ocho and ISO going to start a movie together? Now we start this up together. You wait, you see what Ojo and I did?

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle No]

You wait, you see. Well, Ocho ain't do much. Don't load a villa, yo. I smiled a bit watching you share the tear over the Jags. Long go Duvalla. Was the Jags in the playoff this year? Oh. Oh, we beat the team to beat y'. All. Oh, Eric Boyle just got engaged. Shout out. Engaged. Shout out to my wife Chantelle and our newborn daughter, Isabella. Yes, Eric. Congratulations, Chantelle. Hopefully you and baby are nice, are doing well, healthy. And, Isabella, welcome to the world. Congrats, snapback collector. I'm from Buffalo, and I don't agree with this loser mentality. Trying. Trying to justify that Buffalo got robbed when four turnovers is unacceptable. Actually, you had five, but what? We had one. So we just have to accept we got beat. You did. You turned the ball over. You did something. Josh Allen did something that he hadn't done in the previous six playoff games. And for the most part, Ocho, he's played well. I mean, yeah, he's lost, but it's hard to pin those losses when you throw it for 300 yards and, you know, you doing what he's been able to do and you don't turn the ball over. Now, we can't say that. We can't sit back and say, well, this is not on Josh. We have to sit back and say, oh, this is on Josh. He's caring with the football. There's no reason for you to be carrying the football like this. Dude chopped out his hand. I was like, son, get down, get down. You about to run the clock out.

[Ocho]

Trying to make a play.

[Uncle No]

Kenneth Johnson, if the Seahawks win the super bowl, It's only Mike McDonald's second year. What does that say about Kyle Shanahan with all those great teams that he's had? Say nothing. Kyle's gotten there two times. He's gotten beat by Patrick Mahomes. You can make a case that Patrick Mahomes, one of the three greatest quarterbacks to ever play, and he's on. He's not even in year 10 yet.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle No]

That says Mike McDonald's done a great job and he has a really, really good team. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap as you watch the Seattle Seahawks take apart the San Francisco 49ers by the score of 41 to 6.

[Nav Green]

And.

[Uncle No]

And my dear Broncos won in overtime. 3330. Thank you, guys. I'm your favorite un. That's my partner and co host all the way in Brazil, and he's joining us tonight. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that, like, button and go subscribe to the Night Cap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. We would like to thank each and every one of you for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth for the support that you've shown us over the first two and a half years. Thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by Laportier, head to laportierconac.com if you can't find it. Any state or city near you. It's a Premium BSOP Cognac, the best tasting Premium VSOP Cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe Tickets for our Super Bowl Live show in San Francisco are on sale now. That link is pinned in the chat. The show will be Thursday night, February 5th at the Earps Theater in San Francisco. So come on bae, show up for your up and OO again. The Seattle Seahawks move to the NFC Championship Game where the game will be home and they'll face the winner of the Rams, Chicago, thanks to a 416 demolition of the 49ers and the Broncos will take on the winner of the Patriots and the Houston Texans. Thanks because they dispatched of the Buffalo Bills in overtime by the score of 33 to 30. But the win was bittersweet. They lose this quarterback Bo Nicks to a broken ankle. I'm up. He's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow after the Texas Patriots and Chicago Rams. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm up, he's Ocho. We're out.

[Nav Green]

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