Nightcap Hour 2: Falcons name Matt Ryan PRESIDENT of FOOTBALL OPPS + John Harbaugh COACHING UPDATE + Giannis SPEAKS OUT on NBA's 65 game RULE for awards + NBA SUSPENDS Dennis Schroder

Summary

Club Shay Shay — Nightcap Hour 2 (Jan 11, 2026)

Host: Shannon Sharpe
Co-host/Guest: Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
Summary by: [Expert Podcast Summarizer]

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Episode Overview

This “Nightcap” episode dives into the latest breaking NFL and NBA news with Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson’s trademark blend of insider commentary, personal stories, and playful banter. The major topics include Matt Ryan’s appointment as President of Football Operations for the Atlanta Falcons, coaching updates concerning John Harbaugh, Giannis Antetokounmpo's response to the NBA’s "65-game rule" for awards eligibility, and Dennis Schröder’s NBA suspension. The pair seamlessly mix light-hearted storytelling with sharp sports analysis, offering both deep dives into league drama and reflections on their own post-playing careers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Matt Ryan Named President of Football Operations — Atlanta Falcons

• Announcement & Reaction

  • Shannon and Ocho react enthusiastically to Matt Ryan’s new executive role with the Falcons.
    • “There are so many players that have played at certain places, certain organizations, that deserve a position like that that can help make the right decision...” – Chad (00:39)
  • They discuss why such a role often requires behind-the-scenes conversations and organizational trust.
  • Ochocinco muses about a similar position with the Bengals, noting his strong connections but Shannon remains skeptical of him landing such a high-influence football role.
    • “If they were going to give you a role like that, you have it by now.” – Shannon (03:23)

• On Athletes Transitioning into Front Office

  • Comparison is made to other star players (Troy Aikman, Tom Brady) who could or have transitioned into franchise-defining positions.
  • Shannon attributes opportunities to QBs’ inherent leadership and direct communication with ownership.

• Personal Anecdotes & Fun Facts

  • Shannon shares stories about living near Matt Ryan, knowing his family, and even fun trivia: “Matt Ryan and his brother married sisters.” (05:39)

2. John Harbaugh Coaching Update & NFL Coaching Landscape

• Active Job Search

  • Harbaugh is reportedly reviewing QB film and is in talks with potential coaching staff for his next opportunity.
  • He’s selective, only considering a “handful” of jobs due to his resume and demand for control over his situation.

• Why Certain Teams Appeal

  • Focused on Titans and Giants, with the primary attraction being quarterback situations (08:40).
    • “If either one of those guys [quarterbacks] were with Atlanta, he’d have done sign with Atlanta already.” – Shannon (08:47)

• End of Harbaugh’s Ravens Tenure

  • Reports of failed player relationships and inability to relate to younger athletes are highlighted as a reason for his dismissal after 18 years.
  • “It’s time for somebody else's voice to be heard… as you stay longer, guys get younger... and it's hard for you to relate.” – Shannon (11:10)
  • Dismissal details: Fired over phone while driving home; some staff informed via video call; emotional GM DaCosta (12:15–12:44).

• Coaching & Generational Gaps

  • The hosts reflect on why younger head coaches are trendier, due to better relatability in the locker room.
    • “Most of the head coaches... are a little bit younger where they can relate to some of the younger players.” – Ocho (11:58)

3. Lamar Jackson’s Contract Situation

• Both hosts agree Jackson is the heart of the Ravens and his looming contract negotiation is crucial but inevitable.

  • “He is the Baltimore Ravens. He is the offense… He is their identity.” – Ocho (15:09)
  • The lack of an agent doesn’t worry them, referencing his and his mother’s negotiation savvy (14:42).

• No-trade and Franchise Clause

  • Reminder that Jackson's contract contains advantageous clauses, giving him leverage (14:53–14:57).

4. Giannis, the NBA’s 65-Game Rule & Award Eligibility

• Giannis’s Perspective

  • Giannis voices frustration about the inflexible 65-game rule: “If you get one injury, you’re off, you’re off the race.” (26:58)
  • He highlights the difficulty in older players and stars keeping up with this rule for awards.

• Hosts’ Analysis

  • Shannon provides league context for the rule:
    • “They got tired of all the superstars load managing... So they say, you know what? You’re not going to be first team All-NBA... can’t get MVP.” (27:16)
  • Notes that while it curtails abuses (load management), it also unfairly impacts genuinely injured stars.

5. NBA: Dennis Schröder Suspension & On-Court Trash Talk

• Incident Breakdown

  • Dennis Schröder suspended 3 games for attempting to confront and strike Luka Doncic after altercation stemming from on-court trash talk (“should have signed that contract”).
  • The hosts discuss how language on the court can cross lines, especially regarding respect:
    • “You can’t call people that [bitch] and think everything gonna be cool.” – Shannon (29:20)
    • “If you don’t shower, then put your clothes on and you still mad... That might damn near be personal now.” – Ocho (29:41)

• Cultural & Locker Room Norms

  • Both reflect on how certain insults (especially about mothers) are universally seen as fighting words (30:19–30:42).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Opportunities for Former Players:
  • “You want a role like what Ozzie [Newsome] had... like Tom Brady… like what Matt Ryan have. You want a role like that where you have some say, right?” – Shannon (02:58)
• On Firing John Harbaugh:
  • “John Harbaugh was fired in a phone call while driving home—not a resignation, not mutual...” – Shannon (12:15)
• On Giannis and the 65-Game Rule:
  • “It’s hard to be consistent... if you get one injury, you’re off the race.” – Giannis (26:58)
• On Trash Talk Boundaries:
  • “You can’t call people that... and think everything gonna be cool.” – Shannon (29:20)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Matt Ryan named president of football operations: (00:32 – 07:00)
• Personal stories: Matt Ryan & family: (05:09 – 07:00)
• John Harbaugh’s future & NFL coaches: (07:00 – 13:11)
• Lamar Jackson contract & Ravens future: (13:59 – 16:35)
• Choir & family nostalgia tangent: (15:33 – 25:58)
• Giannis on NBA’s 65-game rule: (26:03 – 27:53)
• Dennis Schröder/Luka Doncic incident/trash talk: (27:53 – 31:46)
• Q&A and viewer comments: (32:12 – 46:02)
• Birthday/retirement shout-outs, playoff commentary: (40:00 – 46:02)
• Wrap-up & closing remarks: (46:02 – 49:39)

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Tone & Style

• Playful, Candid, and Insider: The conversation is direct, jokey, and sometimes irreverent, but always rooted in deep sports understanding and real-world experience.
• Personal & Relatable: The hosts frequently share personal anecdotes, digress into family and childhood stories, and connect sports to broader life lessons.
• No Holds Barred: Both are unafraid to critique teams, league decisions, coaching changes, or player behavior.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This Nightcap delivers a mix of urgent news, veteran insight, and warmth between two NFL legends. If you want an insider’s take on the latest football moves (Matt Ryan, John Harbaugh), nuanced discussion around NBA headlines (Giannis, load management, star conflicts), plus down-home nostalgia and honest conversation about what it means to transition in and out of the game, this episode is for you.

Standout Segments:

• Matt Ryan’s Falcons Promotion (00:32)
• Harbaugh's Coaching Carousel (07:00)
• Riffs on NBA award eligibility rules (26:03)
• Schröder-Doncic altercation analysis (27:53)

You'll laugh, learn, and get a seat at the table with two of the most open and engaging voices in modern sports podcasting.

Transcript

[A]

New year, same extra value meals at McDonald's. Now get a savory sausage McMuffin with egg plus hash browns and a small coffee for just $5 for a limited time only. Prices and participation may vary. Prices may be higher in Hawaii, Alaska and California. And for delivery. The Falcons announced this morning that Matt Ryan has been named president of football operations. According to Patrick Finley of Chicago, sometimes Ryan will be primary decision maker in the Falcons organization. Wow.

[B]

Hey, that's dope.

[A]

Hell, yeah, it is.

[B]

That's dope. Now listen, you see what Matt Ryan is doing for the Atlanta Falcons?

[A]

Yes, that is.

[B]

There are so many players that have played at certain. Certain places, certain organizations that deserve a position like that that can help make the right decision and moving that organization and that team forward in the development of players and picking the right players, you know, to make sure they have success. Hell, why is Troy. Troy Aikman working for the goddamn Dolphins instead of doing exactly what Matt Ryan doing for the Falcons doing with the cowboys?

[A]

Because Mr. Blank. Because Mr. Blake doesn't care about the credit. You know, who cares about the credit? I mean, did you not hear the man say. He's like, Trump Venezuela. He run in Venezuela. Did you not hear him say that?

[B]

Oh, that wasn't. AI. No. Oh, man, I thought that was a. I. When I saw that.

[A]

That was ji.

[B]

Oh, hey, he. He really said that, though, huh?

[A]

Yes, and he meant it.

[B]

But Jerry. Boy, Jerry don't. Boy, Jerry don't care. Hey, I have a question to you for you, huh? Because I know, I know. I know every. You know, the people in the Bengals organization, they watch the show as well, huh? I'm talking about coaches. Coaches and all. Zach Taylor, I'm sure you probably gonna see this. Joe Burrow. I know you're gonna see this. Mike Brown, Katie, Troy, my extended family. I would love a position with the Bengals similar to that of Matt Ryan. I am. I'm making my ploy for that position here on Nightcap. Player. What's the position again?

[A]

Player personnel.

[B]

I. Yeah, president. President of player personnel.

[A]

Yeah, I would love to be the president of football operation.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, that. Whatever UNC just said, that's what I need to be. I would love to spend more time in Cincinnati. I would love to be in that building every single day, helping with the decision making and making sure we go forward in the right direction.

[A]

Huh? That's a family organization.

[B]

I'm part of the family. I'm. I'm. I'm basically adopted.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, I'm telling you, I'm serious. Anything I need, I can, I can call, I pick up, I can call Mike Brown right now. It's one o' clock in the morning. He had picked up the phone.

[A]

You might pick up the phone, but you ain't gonna have no role in the organization.

[B]

Okay, you know what? See, I like.

[A]

I like proving you wrong.

[B]

You want to bet something? Let's bet something.

[A]

You have a ro. I mean. Yeah, then they'll make you community director. They got a lot of.

[B]

Hey, that's a role, ain't it?

[A]

That you. Hey, you go that to the community, they see you out there to talk there. Hey, this, this is o. No, there ain't no role. There ain't no role that you want. You want a role in the. You want to roll like what Ozzy had? You want to roll like what John Elway had. You want to roll like what, Like a Troy Aan, right? Like Tom Brady, right? Like what Matt Ryan have. You want a role like that where you have some say, right?

[B]

So you. You think they won't give me a role like that?

[A]

No, I know for certain they will not give you a role like that. Cuz guess what? If they were going to give you a role like that, you have it by now. Hold on, Uncle.

[B]

I've never, I've never, I never pose the.

[A]

The. You think Matt Ryan went to Arthur Blake and said, hey, I want this role. You think, you think, you think Troy Aman went to the Dolphins and said, I want this role or they reached out to them?

[B]

No, I'm. I'm sure their conversations had behind the scenes. I don't think Dolphins just say, of all the quarterbacks that have won Super Bowls, I don't think just out the blue. You know what I think, Troy a guy. No conversations are had for those.

[A]

Let me tell you why. I didn't say, let me tell you why. Troy a guy. Cuz. What does Troy do? Go to every organization and get behind the scenes.

[B]

Scenes? Yeah. Right.

[A]

I got you Matt Ryan as a quarterback. He gets the call. They return those calls. Okay, See how You see? You see how that work, Ocho?

[B]

Okay, you see?

[A]

You see how that work?

[B]

I like, I like, I like, I like. Where you going with this?

[A]

I. I'll talk to you. I'll tell you about some things how. How things that should happen with us don't get. But that's another story. Hold on.

[B]

I already know. You ain't got to tell me that, you know. Hey, listen, I play the fool. I ain't no fool. You hear me?

[A]

Yeah. For sure.

[B]

This ain't. Hey, this. This ain't nothing but a character on here. I already. I already know. You ain't got to tell me. I know how it go. Okay. I know. Okay. If I can't get a. I know where I can get a position at. If it's not the position that. With the NFL office. Yeah. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't want to do that. I like it right here at Nightcap.

[A]

Well, I wish they. Never mind. We'll talk about that a little later date in time. You and I talk about that off air.

[B]

Yes, sir. Huh?

[A]

But no, congratulations, Matt. I know Matt. Used to see him in Atlanta all the time, actually. He used to live up the street from us, but now he. He moved over a little further. He and his wife. His wife Sarah, they have twins. I think they have another child, but they had twins. We used to take spin class together. I used to see a Lifetime fitness. So congratulations to Matt and Sarah. Hopefully the kids are doing well. Hopefully everybody's doing well. As a matter of fact, a little fun fact, Matt Ryan and his brother married sisters.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Matt Ryan married Sarah, and his brother married a sister. Yes.

[B]

That's cool. I like that. I like that. I like that. Hey, listen, Matt Ryan and his brother marry sisters.

[A]

They might. They might be. I don't think Matt and his brothers are twins, but I think Sarah and her sister might be twins.

[B]

Hey, that's dope, huh? That's dope. Hey, that's so funny, right? How Matt and his brother marry twins, and then me and you, we gonna have a. A dual wedding, like, to save money.

[A]

Cambodia Got a sister, huh? Cowboy got a sister.

[B]

Well, what you.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Let me. Let me. Let me know. You speak chimer.

[A]

I speak whatever need to be spoken, be spoken.

[B]

Okay, okay, let me know. I could. We can. We can put you through a course real quick.

[A]

Your sisters, though, twins. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. The nicest people. She is. Matt's great, too. Matt's great. Yeah. That's cool. But like I said, I used to see Sarah all the time because at the boutique Fitness that we used to go. I used to see at Lifetime Fitness, I think Matt took it a couple of times. Matt Stafford's wife Kelly, great. Peyton's wife Ash, great. Nothing but great things to say. They all. They're always great. Always. When I get to the. I went to the Ram games a couple of time, and. And somebody, she's like, I was talk. I was talking to somebody, and, you know, I was, you know, one booth and they're right next door. She's like, well, just come on over. Don't mind if I do step right through the window. But no, it's, it's great. Congratulations, Matt. Unbelievable an accomplishment to, to have that role and hopefully he can get the Falcons turned around. But I think the Falcons are great. Great start. The the Falcons with the right with a quarterback. That's a good situation. That is a great situation. Very. Diana Racini provided an update today on John Harbaugh's path towards a new job. John Harbaugh spending today and the next few days watching films specifically on quarterback Jackson Dart and Cam Ward. He's been in contact with team decision makers while continuing to communicate with potential members of his own coaching staff. If I'm not mistaken, somebody reported that he's only going to take a handful of these jobs. Right? Right. He's looking at a handful of these jobs. Obviously a proven commodity. 18 years, all the division titles that he's won, all the playoffs, 12 playoff wins and a Super Bowl. Clearly he's on everybody's radar. But you see who is he looking at?

[B]

OO Titans.

[A]

The Giants and the Titans.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What do those two teams have?

[B]

Defense.

[A]

Quarterbacks.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Quarterbacks. Now if either one of those guys with Atlanta, he'd have done sign with.

[B]

Atlanta already already, but Atlanta is. It's up in the air.

[A]

Yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly. And he says he wants control. He want. First of all, Joe Shown, he's the general manager, right. He's hired and fired a lot of coaches, but he's still there. Yeah, he let Saquon walk out the door. He let the quarterback walk out the door. So you really trusted him. Yeah, I think, look, if you're a coach Ocho, obviously, and the thing is like John Harbaugh's been a head coach, Right. A lot of times, first time head coaches, they take it, you got, hey, you got to take what's offered.

[B]

But he's in a different position. He's in a different position because of his resume, because of his accolades to be able to pick and choose where he wants to go. Coaches don't have a choice. When they do get opportunity, they have no choice but to take the job.

[A]

Whether you got to take what they.

[B]

Got because the opportunity is not going to present itself all the time.

[A]

So if those teams got a he, He wants to pick his own general manager. But I don't know if shown or I don't know who the general manager is. And in Tennessee, I guess, you know, long as I have Control somebody I could work with, maybe somebody he knows. We'll find out. Yeah, but like I said. And you. And we see more stuff coming out of the locker room. You hear some people, some of the guys are saying, do we have that? Are we talking about that about. No, about. About John Harbaugh. About some of the players felt that he couldn't connect with the younger guys and things of that nature. And I just said it, Ocho. It's time for somebody voice, somebody else's voice to be heard.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And if somebody else, you know, it's just the way it is. It's not that I don't think John Harbaugh is a good coach. Cause I do. But I just think as you stay longer.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Guys get younger and the music is hard for you to relate. You know, sometimes you just gotta ask the guy, hey, man, what you listening to? What you got on that? What you listening to? Let me. Come here. Let me get there, man. That's a bull jive. See, this is why. This is what I'm talking about right here. Hey, give me that. Hey, let me. This is what you should be listening to. You have to, like, sometimes, Ocho, you really have to. Because John harbor's in his 60s. These kids, 22, 23.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's hard to relate. It's hard to relate.

[A]

Young boy, that's what we call, you know, preteens and teenage boys. Young boys. Right. Oh, you tell me that's a rapper.

[B]

I, I think that's why if you, if you look at, look at, across. You look across the league, most of, the, Most of the head coaches, they are young, they're a little bit younger where they can, they can relate to some of the younger players. As of today, most of the old school style coaches don't even have head coaching jobs.

[A]

Yeah. Ocho. New details reveal regarding John Harbaugh's dismissal via the Athletic. John Harbaugh was fired in a phone call while driving home. Not a resignation, not mutual fan frustration. Blown leads and empty late season seats factored into that decision. Players were reportedly losing faith in Harbaugh's messaging and leadership style. DaCosta held back tears as he told Harbaugh staff. Some found out through a video call.

[B]

Damn. I mean, hey, season over. So sometimes, you know, you, you, you can't do everything in a formal way, in a formal format, you know, or I like to say, respectful way. For all the, for all the time and work I've put in throughout the years, you would, you would like to have a conversation in person.

[A]

If it doesn't happen like that. Sometimes it doesn't. And you just, hey, you're not coming back. And that's that.

[B]

Damn. Hey, after all I've done for you, after all I've done for you, you're.

[A]

Not coming back and tell me you're.

[B]

Gonna let me go. Hold on.

[A]

Okay, well, how about you. How about they. How about they just tell you your last day is in June?

[B]

Well, you know, if my last days in June. Matter of fact, if. If I'm knowing that if I lose this playoff game that y' all firing me. Make sure after the game you have my last check ready.

[A]

How about that Ocho, he still got three years left and $34 million. So he go get. Are you good?

[B]

I tell you what, how about do me one. We do want to do me a solid with that. Give me all my money at once.

[A]

Nah. Because if you get another job, we all, you all we gonna do is just that we might have not have to pay you nothing. Right?

[B]

Yeah, you're right. You're right.

[A]

ESPN Jeremy Fowler cited one person with the Ravens who said it's no coincidence that Harbaugh was fired. As the team prepares to engage Lamar and and contract talks this offseason, filing reports that the Ravens know life is better with Lamar than without. But added the two time NBA NFL MVP contract situation is perhaps the most underplayed story in the league right now.

[B]

How is it underplayed? It's common sense. You know it has to come. You know it has to be done. You know he's not going to have a $70 million cap it yesterday, so it's no point. It has to get done. You see what. Goddamn. God damn.

[A]

It.

[B]

You saw what Josh Allen got. Okay.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

So we're gonna be somewhere in the ballpark in the same area. It's common sense. Lamar Jackson and moms Mom Dukes, they don't have no agent. They know exactly where that number is supposed to fall up under.

[A]

And he has a no trade clause and he has a no, you can't franchise it.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. We. We not playing them games. We not playing them games. Franchise who franchise him? That one.

[A]

I just, you know, for me, the young dude.

[B]

The young dude from Pompano. Come on, man, stop playing, man. He is the Baltimore Ravens. He is the offense. Hold on. He is their identity.

[A]

Yep. I agree. You come on now. You preaching to the choir. I've been here all day just like you.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

The only thing is, hey, you know what? Do they pass the collection Plan to the choir.

[B]

Nah, nah. Just the congregation.

[A]

I was thinking. I was like, I don't think I ever remember to call the plate going to the choir.

[B]

Nah, now, you know. You know, I sang in the. I sang. I was. I sang in the junior choir and the senior choir. I used to lead all the songs in the collection plate. I used to have to sing when they singing the plate. Be going around in. In the congregation.

[A]

Junior choir who? Man, we used to do all that practice. Oh, the only time we got to sing was on second Sunday, right? Junior choir got to sing on the second Sunday, huh?

[B]

Yeah, but you. You know. Hey, you know, I led a few songs with the senior choir, too. I led him.

[A]

You let him.

[B]

Hey, yeah, Knit across. You know.

[A]

Him. Number 392. Ask someone for a suitable tune. You led devotional service. Come on, now. You know, that's what I mean. That's how our grandfather did. Me and my brother used to. Hey, y' all boys leading devotional service today? Oh, we are. All right. Which one of y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Which one of y' all gonna lead prayers today?

[B]

Who.

[A]

Man, I did it last time. Well, look here, Barney say, hey, we getting baptized. You getting baptized today. Okay, who want to get who? We gonna open up the doors of the church. Me and my cousin, we go down there. Yeah. Get baptized today. Right. But no, look, I just felt. I just saw the way things were going. Yes, sir. And I understand. Look, as a head coach, you can hear everything. Every call that the offensive coordinator is making.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[A]

You can hear every call that the defensive coordinator. Once you change the frequency. So I. I get all that, bro. You mean to tell me you okay with Dan Herring not being in the game for 12 minutes and you fighting for your playoff life? No, no, no, no. I know what we normally have. We normally have a rotation, but not tonight. Not tonight. I'm surprised that it kind of like this, because before, you know, the reports were that John Harbaugh only reported to Steve Machadi, Right? So there was really no. There was really no in between. There is no like, sometimes you have to go to the general manager or this or that, but he's like, no, I talk directly to. I talk directly to Steve.

[B]

Go.

[A]

He'll handle fe. He'll be okay, huh?

[B]

No, I'm trying to figure out my camera cut off again. I just. I don't.

[A]

I thought you said you was trying to think of a. Think of a song you used to sing in the choir.

[B]

Oh, I know. Hey, near the Cross was. Was. That was my go to go tell it on the mountain that ain't near the cross. Oh, no, I'm just telling. I'm giving you songs that I used to leave.

[A]

Well, damn if you going to say in the cross. Near the cross I thought you go leave with in the cross.

[B]

Oh. Oh, no, I. I ain't wanted. Bl. Blessed assurance. Come on, man. Hey, don't. Don't play with me. Un. Wait. Hey, Unc. I. I was so little, but I had a voice on me. This is before puberty hit. So once puberty hit, my voice started changing up, so I didn't sound as pure as I did when I was younger.

[A]

I can only imagine.

[B]

Hey, boy, listen. Matter of fact, you know what? I was so good as a youngster, you know, the Mississippi Mass Choir tried to have me come.

[A]

They tried to recruit you, huh?

[B]

And get me on tour. They wanted me to be a part of the Mississippi Children's Choir because I was so good. I was going to lead there, and then I was going to lead the Mississippi Mass Choir. I was gonna say some duets. I'm gonna sing some duets with God, dog it. Mosey Burks. You know, if. You know, if you don't. Hey, chat, chat. Y' all do your homework or Mosey Burks. The Mississippi Mass Choir wanted me to have a duet when I was young with Ms. Mosi Burks. That's how good I was, man. If it wasn't for football, I would. I would have still been singing today.

[A]

Yeah, I was.

[B]

You know what? I would like Kirk Franklin, before Kirk Franklin was the thing. Like, that's how energetic I was when it came to singing.

[A]

Ask about Franklin. Huh?

[B]

Huh?

[A]

Kirk Franklin, huh?

[B]

I was something like that. I had great energy. Great energy.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, Ask anybody. Ask anybody. I'm asking anybody part of the Mississippi Mass Choir about my voice.

[A]

You saying mass or mask?

[B]

Hey, it's only one.

[A]

Oh, I thought you talking about the Mississippi Mask Choir. Cause we don't need to see nothing or hear nothing. Yeah.

[B]

Mississippi Mass.

[A]

Oh, I thought you said Mississippi Mass Choir. Chat. Did y' all think he said Mississippi masqu.

[B]

Yeah. It's only one missing met. Hey. The incomparable, the illustrious.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Hold on, hold on. The greatest mass choir of all time.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Yes. They want. They wanted me. When I was young, I was a baby. Come on, man.

[A]

Yeah, I'm pressing on. I'm pressing on. I'm trying to reach my heavenly home.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

A few more tears that I've got to shed A few more burdens I've got to bear I. I got a mother there, a father there, and I'm just trying to make it in. Just trying to make it in. So I'm pressing on. I'm pressed. Now, your boy, you really used to sing?

[B]

Yeah. Okay. Okay.

[A]

Your boy really used to know that.

[B]

Well, you sound like a tenor. You a tenor?

[A]

Hey, you a tenor? When I was little old Junior D. Cachet. Yeah. I told you, Reverend Burns told my grandma, he told right there in front of me, he said, mary, he said, I'll probably be dead and gone, yes, sir, but that boy got a calling.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

I said, well, you know what? I think football my calling, but okay, I'mma take you.

[B]

Okay? I like it. I like it.

[A]

Hey, but you know, that call, your boy died. That call, your boy. D. Let me do a little something.

[B]

A little something.

[A]

Okay. Pray. Oh, pray now. Your boy. Pray now.

[B]

Oh, you can pray.

[A]

What? Hold on.

[B]

Do me a favor real quick, huh? Before we end the show tonight, how about you bring us home in prayer?

[A]

You see, I. You see, I won't be playing, man, you know.

[B]

Hey, come on. Hey, aren't we. Hey, that'd be a good one. That'd be a good one. You know, think about how when we do the live show. Right? Yeah, we do the live show. You notice how I always say a prayer with everybody before we start? So, you know, we ain't, you know, ain't none to it. Matter of fact, you know what's so funny? I forgot to tell you about this, boy. My grandma took me to see the mighty clouds of joy.

[A]

Okay, boy, look here.

[B]

Grandma took me to see the mighty clouds of joy, and they brought me on stage to sing. That's how good I was. I was. No, I was a phenom. I went. I sung with the Mighty Clouds of Joy and the can spirituals back in 83.

[A]

I. Look. The mighty clouds of joy.

[B]

Come on now.

[A]

The Mississippi Mass Choir.

[B]

Come on now. The five elements.

[A]

Alabama Blind Boys. Cleveland.

[B]

Yeah. Reverend James.

[A]

Cleveland.

[B]

Come on. Come on.

[A]

My grandpa, man, my grandpa used to love Mahalia Jackson. Oh, my goodness.

[B]

In the upper room with. Yeah, come on, man, stop playing, man. We. Hey, don't. Don't make me go back home, man.

[A]

But that below my. I'm the only one. My. My brothers, my brother. My sister's in the church all the time. That. That was the thing that. After my grand. My grandmother passed, my sister, she gave her life to the Lord. My brother's always been. Always been in. I mean, as long as I can remember, probably for 25. 25 plus. Years. My sister, since my grandmother passes religiously in church. Revival.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Going to different churches when they have revival, Bible study. I gotta get. I gotta. You know, I gotta get my act together.

[B]

Yeah, now you're good. You good. You good, you good. You good. You good, you good, you good. Hey, one step. Hey, one step at a time.

[A]

What's happening? Time.

[B]

That's. That's all you do. But what you. What you can't do is you can't lose what makes you you, you know?

[A]

Oh, no, no, no.

[B]

God. God created you to be you. You know, probably.

[A]

Ocho, I might have to do. I mean. I mean, I might have to do a gospel podcast. You know, I have to let you turn this over to somebody else.

[B]

Nah, nah, we ain't doing that. We ain't doing that. Well, we. We definitely ain't doing that, because that's not what we.

[A]

That.

[B]

That's not our calling. Now, you heard your pet. You heard what your pastor said. He's calling now. You. One of the callers was football. The other calling was this. Okay, now we have a great thing going on, but what you can't do is you can't lose sight of who you are. Yeah, you. You can't do that. Matter of fact, I just. Oh, it just dawned on me.

[A]

What?

[B]

Hey, chat. Y' all can hear me sing.

[A]

Where?

[B]

Talk about this. If you listen to this song, right? Me, in the Florida Mass Choir, I was a lead vocalist in A Storm Cloud Rising. I just thought about that. I don't know why I forgot about that. I was the lead vocalist for the Florida Mass Choir in the song A Storm Cloud Rising. Come on, man, stop playing like I really do this. I got the background. I got the background. Ask Shirley sees about me, huh? I listen. I tell you, no lie. If I'm lying, I'm flying. Come on, now. Ask Dorothy. Noah would bite me. This is when I was young. Now, I'm telling you.

[A]

I'm gonna take your word for it. Ocho.

[B]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[A]

Giannis was asked about the 65 game rule for regular season awards. He said, I'll be honest with you. Through 13 years of being in the league, I think I played 65 games every year. I'm still going to try. I think I'm still going to try to play 65 games, but it's hard if you really want to be a good player to help your team get deep into the playoffs, then you come back at the end and you play 65 games again. I've been in the NBA. I've been in all NBA the last nine years in a row, seven times first team. It's hard to be consistent just putting that rule there. It doesn't give you a break. The margin of error is hard. It's like if you get one injury, you're off, you're off the race. I might, I might make it. Yokich might not make it. LeBron not going to make it. Wimby's might not make it. It's all because. Is it all because. Is it all for. Because it could benefit me at first, but as I get older, I'm like, take it off, take it off. But these are rules. You just got to play by the rules. What's going to be available? Just shape. So it's up in the air. No, Yanis, let me tell you what happened. They got tired of all the superstars load managing. You guys were just arbitrarily, willy nilly just sitting out. You didn't care if it was a televised game on tnt. You didn't care if it was a televised game or ESPN or abc. So they say, you know what? You're not going to be first team all NBA. You can't get defensive player of the year, you can't get mvp. And it's unfortunate, right? It is very, very unfortunate because Nicola Jokic was at the top of the MVP ladder.

[B]

Right.

[A]

He has a serious injury. But like you said, you guys will say, well, I got, I got a knee injury, I got a foot injury, I got brat or I just need rest. So sometimes the hair got to go at the hide some rules and I understand why rules were put into place, but sometimes rules harm good people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because the people have tried to skirt the system for such a long time. It's just like anything public housing assistance. Because so many people have skirted the system. Ocho. Yeah, People that really need it have a harder time than getting to the people that don't. So I'm sorry, Giannis, I. I do understand what you're saying. Ocho. Here, the stat here the story for you. The NBA has suspended Dennis Schroeder three games for confronting and attempting to strike Luka Doncic after the Kings lost to the Lakers in Los Angeles on December 28th. Doncic and Schroeder jawed at each other during the various points of the Kings 125, 101 loss. During a timeout, Luka taught his Schroeder telling him should have signed that contract in reference to the 4 year, 82 million dollar extension he declined from the Lakers Things appeared to be cool off as the game ended, but Schroeder left the visitors locker room at the crypto arena, spotted Luca, and temples flared again inside the tunnel across from the home bench. Forty minutes after the buzzer, Schroeder went Luca. Telling Luca he can't just call him a bitch on the court and pretend everything is fine, Right? The NBA concluded that Schroeder attempted to strike Luca.

[B]

And boys took that thing kind of far. And I think they probably let you.

[A]

Call them up day, and that's what I keep telling people like. Oh, they all just words. I don't know where y' all think y' all come from. Yeah, but I ain't know. I. You can't call people that and they think everything gonna be cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What. Where can you go and just call somebody that and say, oh, yeah, I was playing? Huh?

[B]

Nah, you. You can't do that. And obviously Shooter took offense to that. Hell, if. If you. If you don't shower, then put your clothes on and you still mad, dude, they. That might. That might damn near be personal now.

[A]

Well, you don't call. You call me that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just. Cause I don't put it. That's why I shout and put my clothes on. That don't mean I. I forgot what you said.

[B]

Yeah, but if you. If you still mad about that. Just about. I mean, I'm sure, you know, you. You get called name during the game. You know how them boys talk on the court, huh?

[A]

You know.

[B]

Know how that.

[A]

Yeah, but I think. But you start calling somebody that B, I, T, C, H, man, you got to be careful. Oo, yeah, you. You right. You right. I mean, and in Liberty City, could you call somebody gay that wasn't gay?

[B]

Nah, not. Not them fighting words. And you know the one word down here. The one word down here. Un. Like, no matter what, if you say it like you got the fight, you talk about somebody. Mama. Or you call them. You call.

[A]

You call.

[B]

Yeah, you call somebody a. You, You. You. You got. You got the rock. You ain't got no choice.

[A]

It is what it is.

[B]

You. You got. You got. You got to go. You got to go. We got to go. We got to go one on one.

[A]

Yeah, cuz. That's what. Hey. Oh, you. Oh, that's what I am. Okay, let's do it.

[B]

Yeah, you got to write down.

[A]

Let me see if you can beat this bitch. Oh, that's what I. Hey, bro, I'm telling you, man, you just.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, y' all just can't. You just can't arbitrarily. Just trash talk. I understand trash talking. I get it. I was pretty good at it. Yeah, one of the best, if you ask me. But I ain't calling nobody out their name. I ain't calling nobody no B, I, T, C, H. Right. Cause, hey, you definitely wasn't talking about nobody mama when I grew up. That. That'll get you. And I told you, man, I got slapped for saying somebody mama.

[B]

Yeah, it's still.

[A]

And I wasn't even talking about her, but I ain't know her. And the girl was sisters. I say your mama. Wow. I say, I said her mama. She said, fool, we got the same damn mama. Okay. Learn my lesson.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Damn.

[A]

Damn. Sure.

[B]

And then, you know, that's because I.

[A]

I remember the game. And he was going back and forth, that intruder, like, okay, say it out. Say it when we get done.

[B]

You know what the. Funny. That's the wrong person to be trying to hit, too. Anyway, you finna hit the face it. Well, wait, is he the face of the league yet?

[A]

No.

[B]

Maybe.

[A]

I don't even know. LeBron. LeBron and Steph still there.

[B]

Okay, well, still, Luke is a prominent figure in the NBA. That's not really someone you want to choose to fight.

[A]

I don't think Luca trying to bump like that anyway, so to be honest with you. All right. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[B]

I'm so excited for the game tomorrow.

[A]

I am, too. We got three of them.

[B]

Hey, we sure do.

[A]

Dutchy from down the way. Oh, Ocho, can your boys wish my lady Andrea a happy 36th birthday? The Bills will lose, but cover will be shook tonight. But couples will be shook tonight.

[B]

That's gonna be a good game, man.

[A]

Absolutely. Hey, Dutchy, thanks for the support, man. Hey, Andrea. Happy 36th birthday. Hopefully you guys would. I got you a great dinner. Get to 8. Didn't eat too much. Cuz dun say the covers gonna get shook. He say covers gonna get shook. And it's already can't get shake the covers for dark. It's already dark on that side of town, probably. So it's dark everywhere, but yes. Thank you, man. Dutch, you appreciate the support. Happy birthday, Andrea. Happy 36th birthday and enjoy Hellbell OG lovely is that. Dude, if I'm the Packers wide receiver, I'm holding my head up. For what, bro? We lost. Ain't nothing to hold the head up about, man. Ain't no. Oh, we got a promising future. I don't care nothing about that. Man, I just wish more people invested in something, anything, I don't care what it is and then have it taken away from them. Then you'll get an understanding of what it's like when an athlete loses. Because all that training, all that film study, all that meeting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It'S over, done, finished, put. The more you work at something, the more you invested in something, the more you deployed your. You poured your hard on blood, sweat and tears.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Time, energy and effort. The more it hurt when it ends. It just does. It just does. And if it doesn't hurt, you probably didn't put enough into it. Ask anybody that's ever lost something meaningful. Ask Brady how did losing that undefeated season. Ask him how did it feel losing to Philly.

[B]

When.

[A]

Unculture J Ocho look alike? Unlockable Def jams icon character Chris Guadalupe. Forget Daniels. Remember folks said Bears should keep fields over Caleb. I said that was never going to happen. I said they had already. They had already let one number one pick go. And you think they was going to pass that guy?

[B]

Absolutely not.

[A]

Daniel Hayes. Caleb is clutch. Put some respect on that man's name. The Bears gonna be a tough out. They are. They gotta take. They got. Hey, and guess what Ocho. They got another home game.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Mm TS car wives detail service. Two great games. Chad. This is going to be a great playoffs. Thoughts on jaw to the Timberwolves. I mean he, him and aunt I would need. I would like if you tell me a more traditional point guard, right. A guy that's a pass first. Even though these point guards they're not pass first point guards. Luke is not a path. Luca is not a pl. A pass first point guard. Can he pass? Absolutely. He averages eight of silver eight assists to game but most of these guys are two guards masquerading his points right now. I don't know if I love that giant aunt. It's Maddie. Who do you think feels worse? Loop or McManus? If I make manus I'm finding a greyhound bus cause coach ain't letting me ride back with the team. Yeah, they probably. They probably took the buses. Naughty. I'm. I'm pretty sure they flew. I mean it's only an hour and a half but they probably flew. Who feels loop loop loop loop. Who did Luke play for? The mid oh against the Ravens. It's like which is heavy. A ton of bricks or a ton of feathers. They wait to say. I think the the hurt is equal. Still heads. I didn't even turn the game on until it was 21 6. These games don't start till late. Third quarter. Big TD. The one. Hey, you got room in your garage for a McLaren? Because I know where I can get where one at. Let me know if you need that. Yeah, I got room for it. If I ain't got room, I'll make room.

[B]

If you need it, Uncle, I'll let you borrow it. Now ain't no thank you.

[A]

I so know a Bears gm Cook. We just needed the right coach. Now, what do you think about Matt LaFleur will. What do you think? Matt LaFleur will keep his job.

[B]

Yeah. It ain't gonna fight LaFleur. No nu. Seven playoffs every season damn near ain't going dark.

[A]

Barn, what's y' all opinion on if Bryce earned a long term contract with the way he's played this year? I think so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I don't think they're going to find a better quarterback. Ain't no better quarterback coming out in the draft. And ain't no ain't. There's no guys that are backups. That's better than Bryce Young.

[B]

Yep. He's in the right. He's in the right situation. He's in the right place. I mentioned that early in the show. It is what it is.

[A]

Derek Kushank. Ocho, I'll pay for your tech guy in 2026. My guy.

[B]

Whoo. You know what?

[A]

Pat Dubs. Ocho, y' all be preaching all year. DB's don't let receivers cross your face. Coker did just that to Brian when he ran the dagger for 52. Yeah, the linebacker just let Zakiyos. Bro, why you let the man cross your face? Where you going? Yeah, he's dropping to an area. And here's a guy coming across his face. That's. You don't wanna. Antoine Boulder. Yo, these trade cheese graters is crazy. I guess that's the new thing now. They got the cheese grater hats. Ocho, you know the packers got the cheese head. Yeah, Bears fans be wearing cheese graters.

[B]

Cheese graters?

[A]

Yep. Miles OG Eli. How do you know? Breaking down a corner. And how do you relay that to your teammates? Elijah, how do you know? Well, obviously you do ask. Okay, how is he playing? You playing inside? He played outside. He playing head up. Is he playing off? Is he jumping routes or is he selling? I mean, is he clue it? Yeah, you pass information because especially if the guy doesn't travel. If he travel, I can't give you any information because he's staying with me the whole game. Yeah, but if he doesn't travel. Yeah, you relay information, let him know how the corner is playing.

[B]

And most of the time.

[A]

Can'T even believe I using the damn natty after beating the ass every year from 2017 to 2024 at Purdue. Congrats to them. I'm gonna check out the country in Indy. Yeah, fast turnaround. You can turn this thing around in the mall in no time. Now catch a body fitness on the. No joke here, y'. All. Wish my wife Courtney A happy 42nd birthday, an upcoming retirement after 22 years in the military. Nightcap is our weekly nightcap. Absolutely. Thank you for your service, first and foremost, and thank you all the men and women around the world that's protecting us. But, Courtney, happy 42nd birthday, man. Retirement and a birthday. Hopefully you guys do something very, very fun. Hopefully you did something fun, man. That's great. But I want to thank you enough, young man, for. For your services, all the serve, the great work that you've done protecting this country. So, again, thank you very much, and happy 42nd birthday, Courtney. J.J. carver, Indiana. Need to be. Need to be told that points don't roll over to the next game. Built to add switches, extension cords, cords, rods, spare time, everything. Damn, Y' all doing it like that. Daniel Hayes, do you remember the biggest playoff performance? And who is it against? Yeah, I mean, in a loss, it was against the Raiders in the wild card game. 13 for buck 53, I think, and a touchdown. And then had a big catch against Pittsburgh in the AFC championship game. And then the 96 yarder that we had against the Raiders in the championship game.

[B]

That slant. That slant.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yep. You said your boy picked the things up, Ocho. Yeah.

[B]

You were gone now. You were gone.

[A]

I should. I should have hit it with the.

[B]

With the peace sign.

[A]

Yeah. The real Cato Commander fan here. Pickens deserve all pro. He was amazing this season. Absolutely. And when you get Ocho and I agree on something, you might as well just etch it in stone. Shakur, 85. Which players needed fresh air this off season? Also, what about Flores to the Ravens and McDaniel as O.C. and Pickens, the Buffalo man, you. You put. Man, you put pickings with Josh Allen.

[B]

Oh, that.

[A]

Now, I don't know if you heard Ocho, but did you hear how. How glowing Lamar talked about Clint Kubiak, huh? In Seattle.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Say he likes the way he attacks every vertical, horizontal, every area of the field. Gets all these guys involved. That's. That's very exciting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm just saying that's what he said they quoted him. Jaquan Everett. Derrick Browns gets no respect. Can't be about the play. Yeah, you're right. It's not. I think. Because of defensive tackles now, Ocho. Because it used to be guys get one or two sacks and they can get it. Man, what you call them ruin that. Aaron Donald and SAP. Them guys ruined that. Chris Jones Guys getting 8, 9, 10, 15, 20 sacks now. Two sacks and playing the run good ain't gonna cut it.

[B]

Nah, it's not.

[A]

Eric Jordan Scott Uncle. No, Joe. I know y' all would agree with me. 1. 2009 Bama 2020 Bama over both 2019 LSU and Indiana. 2, not 29. 2009 Bama was a monster 2020 with Sir Tan and Devonte Smith. Will Anderson Jr. Barmore. Oh, they were loaded now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It'll be very interesting to see. I. I do. I would pick 20, 20 Bama over Indiana, but I don't know about that 20. I don't know about that in 2019 LSU with Joe Burr and all those guys.

[B]

Yeah, that was different.

[A]

I mean, you would. Hey, you might have to go get Miami 2001 team with all those guys with Ed Reed and Antrell Roll and all them. Sean Taylor, Vilma. Yeah, yeah. Bill man. And D.J. williams and Vince Warford and all those guys bad.

[B]

I East that 2019 LSU team with different on Steeler.

[A]

Pat86 Florio didn't vote Troy Palomalu for hall of Fame. Said he knew he was getting in, so he voted for someone else. Stuff like that with the voters. Bs they should lose the right to vote. Yeah, just don't say anything about it. That if you didn't vote for Troy Palomalo. Man, comic book nerd. Great game. Love y' all brothers. Bear down. Bears look good. They got another home game. Win that game, who knows? You might get a home game for us NFC championship. Glenn Barnard that leading was the head with BS look like dude hit it with his forearms. Hit the other dude in the chest. What y' all thinking? Was it a soft call or a good call? I'm assuming he's talking about the Rams game. I thought the guy hit Devonte under the chin. Yeah, I thought the rate the Rams got hit him in his chest could be wrong. But hey.

[B]

And it. And the rules this game. I. I feel sorry for defenders. They can't even play football.

[A]

They can't. It's hard. It's hard. Marvin Collier. What's up? Uncle Noo is Marvin from Chad, South Carolina. Charleston, South Carolina. It's my 28th birthday. Can I please get a shout out? Absolutely. Happy 28th birthday, Charleston Low Country St. George. Appreciate you guys, man. Great. We had a great time when we came down there. Look forward to getting back down there and seeing you guys soon. But, Marvin, happy 28th birthday, man. Enjoy. Jab. 83.94. Yo, my uncle said he played at Savannah State with you. He was the right tackle. They said that y' all used to call him Big Dixon. Mayan, I guess he said, I do know a guy named Mayan, but Mayan didn't play football with us. I think that's what he tried to say. I gotta ask Bucket. Right tackle. Tamara, jump back in the chat and tell us where he was from. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Guys, we have very exciting games today. The Bears come back from being 20 down, 21 to 3, and they come back and win the game 30. What was that? 31, 27. And the Rams hold on. They win. Matthew Stafford lead them down the field, and they win the game 34, 31. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite un. And that is my partner and co host, Liberty City Zone Bingles Ring of Fame honoree, a former pro Bowler and an all Pro. He. He's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. Do us a favor. Go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from. We would like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier and you can't find it, any state or city near you, head to laportier.com and order your bottle. We have the OG, which is the 750. And now we have the Junior, which is the 375. Same great quality, same great taste, same smoothness. Please drink responsibly and be safe. Go check my media company page out on all of his platforms. That's Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. The Chicago Bears come from behind and they beat from down 21 to three to beat the Green Bay packers by the score of 3127. And the Rams, thanks to Matthew Stafford. 24, 42, 304. Three touchdowns, one interception and they come back. Puka Nakua had himself a day 10 for a buck 11 and a receiving touchdown. And he had a rushing touchdown on top of that as they dispatched the Panthers 34 to 31. But the Panthers have a very, very, very promising future with a very, very young team. You have to be impressed with what you saw with the Carolina Panthers today. In Carolina, you got something to be proud of. You got a good team moving forward. So thank you guys for joining us. He's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow. Sunday Night Football.

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