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Shannon Sharpe
LeBron James four straight GR games of triple doubles came to an end tonight, but they still got the win. The Lakers still won over the pales 104 to 99. LeBron did not have his best shooting performance, but when they absolutely had to have it, he made two big threes, including the silencer.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey LeBron man, let me ask you a question.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
What are the chances we see a LeBron again?
Shannon Sharpe
We've never seen it.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Is it, is it possible? Is there anybody in NBA that can come close to the longevity and the consistency year in a year out that could at some point reach the plateau in which he has?
Shannon Sharpe
But we're assuming that this is it. I can see him playing another two years.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, he said, he said he see himself playing another one or two.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean he's think about it. He's averaging. He had 21 points, seven rebounds, five assists last night after a string of four straight triple doubles. Anthony Davis has been out the charts. Anthony Davis had 31 and 14 tonight with two with a block and two steals. He's been sensational. It's not that, the longevity. It's the level in which he played at.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yes, yes.
Shannon Sharpe
That's. That's. That's what's so impressive, or am I impressed that. I mean, for someone to have the longevity. See, like the thing that was impressive about Tom was the level at which he's playing at. We've seen guys play into their 40s, right. But they didn't look like that.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
We see a lot of basketball players. You know, Vince Carter played into his 40s, Dirk. Now Kevin Garnett, Kevin Willis, Robert Parrish. Most of the time it's bigs, right? Most of the time it's a big Kareem. You know, they go down, get on the block, blah, blah, blah. But, you know, for Vince to play 22 guards, LeBron. LeBron's handling the ball. LeBron's getting up and down the court. LeBron ain't just going down and getting on the block and posting up.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
So I don't think so, Ocho. I don't want to be one of those guys to say never, but I don't think we'll see it in my life. I don't think I'll see it in my lifetime right now. Maybe the kids. My kids. Kids will see it. But, I mean, for a guy to play at that level, he's probably going to average somewhere around 23 to 26 points a game. They'll probably be 8 and 8 or 8 and 7 assist the rebounds. He still can give you. Go get you 30 on an efficient night. Like I said, he didn't shoot the ball well tonight. He was 8, 19, 2 or 7, 3 or 5 for the free throw line. But he had four offensive rebounds. The thing is the turnover. He had a couple. He had six turnovers. They only had 11. So he did do a better job of cutting down the turnovers, but he's still playing at an extremely high level. Ocho. Yeah, They've won five games in a row now there are nine. They're nine and four. And I think they're going home, right? I think they go home now. I think they have like a four, four or five game road trip. That three game road trip. What, who they got? Yeah, so that, that should be. I mean, that Nuggets game. Is gonna be tough because Nicola Jokic is playing at.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, he. Man.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, they gotta say at some point in time, stop this notion he's the best player in basketball.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Whoa.
Shannon Sharpe
It is what it is.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Best.
Shannon Sharpe
He's the best player in basketball.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
What about Luca? What about A.D. john Maran? Kevin Durant? Anthony Edwards?
Shannon Sharpe
Nicola. Nicola Jokic is, is the best player in the NBA.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
Period. I wish it was something I could tell you different. Ocho. Do you see the numbers that he's putting up?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I, I, I, I see the numbers that he's putting up. I see the numbers that he's putting up, but I just wouldn't agree with him being the actually best basketball player in the world right now.
Shannon Sharpe
Who you take? Well, who's better than him? What are you basing it up? Huh?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I just, I just rung off a few names that are also putting up amazing numbers night in and night out.
Shannon Sharpe
And they put them on numbers like this. 29, 14 and 12, shooting 50 plus percent.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Damn. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You got, you got my, my, my data bank is, is, is, is working right now. Hold on now. So you like, you like him over Jason Tatum too, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, I think he's the best. I think he's the best basketball player. His IQ is off the charts. That's why he can, that's why his assist total is so high. Now he can rebound. Now he's giving you 30, and he's giving you 30, shooting 51st 50 plus percent from the floor.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
He's real efficient.
Shannon Sharpe
He's not evolved. He's not a volume shooter.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
He's efficient.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. He's averaging 30 points, 14 rebounds, 12 assists. He's shooting 56% from the floor. He's fifth and scored first in rebounding, first in assist. He's 15th and field goal percentage.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Chat.
Shannon Sharpe
Chat.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
The chat with no chat. Do y'all agree with un. If there's somebody, if there's somebody you feel that is better than Nicola Jokic, that you would view as the best basketball player in the NBA. Can you please, I. Just give me some names. I don't have numbers in front of me right now. This is a good one. I like. I see you. Okay. Somebody.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, what, I mean, he has a title. He has a Finals MVP. He's won three MVPs in the last four years. I mean, and there's nobody better than.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Half of the chat is agreeing with you, so I can't, I can't even come up with an argument.
Shannon Sharpe
No, he, he played out of his mind. Ocho. He's playing out of his mind.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, well, somebody did say they think Jokic. I mean, Luca and Jess is good, just as good, but I'm sure they probably give the eight.
Shannon Sharpe
But Luca is not as efficient. Luca is a volume shooter.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right. What about, what about sga? Sga?
Shannon Sharpe
Shay Gilgis.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
I like Jay, just not over Luca.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
I like Giannis. Not over Luca. I like him B. Not over Luca. Jt, Nalu, Luka.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hold on, I got. Matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that. Embiid. He takes. He takes. He plays every other game, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Because of his size, his knees, the injuries. Well, isn't Joker, what, Maybe a little shorter?
Shannon Sharpe
Shorter, yeah, but Joker's not nearly as heavy.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Luke is averaging 29 points a game. That's sixth in the NBA. He's tied for 20. He's tied for 27th with eight rebounds. He's tied for eight. And assists. He's shooting 43% from the floor, which is 105th. First 15.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, that's crazy.
Shannon Sharpe
He is.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Wait. But also, also, things can change because it's still early in the season.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the thing is, he's all. But he's looked. He's going to average. He's going to get you double digits and rebounds. The question is, can he average a triple double by getting you the double digit assist? Now, would I be surprised if he ended up averaging 27, 28 points a game, 1112 rebounds a game and nine assists? No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. But he's legit. And from the very first time I saw him, yeah, he's the real deal inside. The NBA. Will move to ESPN in 2025. A license deal with TNT. The deal will see TNT Sports continue producing the show, but it will air on espn. For fans, the biggest news that Charles, Shaq, Kenny and Ernie will still be on that television. So that means it's still going to be produced out of Atlanta because Ernie said he ain't going nowhere. Huh? Studio J. Yeah, he's not going anywhere. And Chuck, I mean, that's a short trip for Chuck. Shaq has a place in Atlanta. Shaq has a place, a lot of places, Kenny. But I'm glad they're staying together. I am. Yeah, they, they, they're the goal. They're what Howard Cosell and Don Meredith and what they were for Monday Night Football.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right? Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
This is.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, they work very, very, very, very well together. The chemistry is, is unmatched there's really no one else you can. You can take out and plug someone else in and think the show would still be the same.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
So I'm glad they. They are coming back.
Shannon Sharpe
That's years of chemistry, Ocho. That's years of understanding each other.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, Shaq and Kenny going at it one minute their best friend, the next minute they talk. They want to tear each other heads off. You know, they making fun of Kenny running to the board, you know, Kenny with the kickstands, but, you know, and Ernie is the perfect traffic cop.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah, most definitely.
Shannon Sharpe
Boom, boom. He getting his. He getting his little digs in here and there, Ocho. Yeah. But he doing. Passing that thing off to everybody. He magic.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Remember Kenny and Shaq was running to the board each other. You push Shaq into the goddamn Christmas tree.
Shannon Sharpe
But Shaq beat him. Shaq even. Shaq beat him when Shaq had just was like, probably a couple of months removed from having his hip replaced because Shaq had this hip replaced. Shaq be kidding in. You know, Shaq. A lot of times, Shaq wear a house shoe with bedroom shoes.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
But Shaq. Shaq, even Chuck beat it to the board.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. And that's.
Shannon Sharpe
And you know, with Jamal Crawford or Draymond or somebody else, they. They beat him all the time. They just. They just blow the dope. They just blow the nose off him. So Ocho Magna gorilla discuss never going into the ocean again because aliens are in the water. Megan said, I will not go into the ocean no more. The rabbit hole I went. Went down. That ish monster suit. Who wanted to get into an ocean again? There's like all the monsters reside. They think aliens are up, they're down. Look at the. Look at a crab. Gorilla said, do you think aliens are in the sea, Megan? The aliens are in the sea. Look at a crab. Look at it in the face next time you eat it. Damn, man, you. I think you might be over. You might be overthinking it.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, they're aliens. The aliens do exist. They do exist. They're classified documents. I've heard about Area 51, wherever that may be. Aliens do exist. The government is very good at hiding things like this. But it ain't in no goddamn water. It ain't no goddamn sea. I doubt that there's extraterrestrial life. I'm not sure where it is, but it's definitely not in the sea. People have been in the sea for.
Shannon Sharpe
For.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
In the ocean for how long? We have seen no signs of. Of extra credit, extraterrestrial activity coming from the sea. But it's always been in the sky. That's where it probably is.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't never seen it, so how you know?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I, I don't need to see it. I mean I. I haven't done it. It's not like I've done any extensive research on it, but anytime.
Shannon Sharpe
So how you know that? That's what you say. You say ain't nothing come out to see you ain't never seen the sea or the air. Yeah, you know how you know.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I mean, it's just. It's just doubtful though. It's just doubtful. With, with as much work as. As we as humans have done in the ocean. There have been no signs of. No, no signs of it of at all. So I just. I just. It's just doubtful. But I. There are. There, there. There are aliens. You know, the government is hiding it very well and it's just. At some point.
Shannon Sharpe
Didn't they say a plane almost had a. A crash with one? What are you at the coast? Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I don't know. I don't know how true that is. And you know, people always have these AI images of UFOs and everybody thinks sometimes a shooting star might be a ufo, but it's. It's not. It's not what they do. They do. They do exist though. I. I truly believe they do exist.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm worried. I'm worried about these crazy mofos that I see all the time. I ain't worried about no alien, something I ain't never seen. I see enough aliens walking around here right now doing some effed up ish.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
The ones you need to worry about it right down here on earth.
Shannon Sharpe
Exactly. I ain't worried about nothing. No sky, every word about nothing in the ocean. I worried about the aliens I walk past every day.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, you said it right. Them the crazy ones. Hey, what up buddy? What up twin?
Shannon Sharpe
Anybody that has a. How old are you two? So anybody got a two year old Pomeranian? How old she need, how much she need to weigh? How you say? Between the weights of five and eight pounds.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Katie Bear said I got something for her.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh Joe G Mar Moore has social media riled up after he recently revealed while he has no plans to marry his girlfriend, the mother of his only child, Jezree Dizon More explained to people that he views design dies on design as a partner in crime. However, he's never seen marriage as a part of his plan. I didn't have good role model of marriage in my life. Not my mother, not my father, nobody close to me. I struggle with it. Who made that rule? I asked my mother one time, I'm like if people get married then what's this prenup thing? Oh I love you. You're the most amazing person in the world. But sign this. So you don't trust the person. She's my partner. She's the mother of Frankie. Frankie. Frankie has a dope ass mama and I'm trying to be the try to be a dope ass daddy and we going to do that till God calls my name.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
What do you think about that? When I, when I, when I hear people talk about marriage, marriage in general and what it entails is documentations that binds you, binds you legally by contract, you know. And I understand his part where he also says that we do love each other. We're willing to, we're willing to spend the rest of our lives together. But before we do so let's protect ourselves when it comes to our assets so that.
Shannon Sharpe
Whatever. Well let me ask you a question. When he is in the contract to work on that TV show, did he sign a contract? Why sign the contract? They said they Wanted to hire you. You said you was going to work, so why sign a contract? See, before. Before people started pulling bull drive, a contract was simply a meeting of the minds. But what happened? You say one thing, I say another. Yeah. And then we come down to it. I don't get paid, and then I don't know why. So they say, you know what? Let's put it on. This. This eight by ten. Yeah, let's put it on. Hey, put it there. That's why you do it.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I got a question for you.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Like, you all for marriage, as am I. Yeah. The documentation. And I'm trying to prenup. Yeah, you. So you. You offer the prenups and all that, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Hell, yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
So where's the benefit in marriage? Who. Who's. Who's the beneficiary?
Shannon Sharpe
I mean.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I mean, the man. The man. The man of the woman. Because who. 85. Who loses everything in marriage.
Shannon Sharpe
The man of the woman 85 of the time. If a man gets married, he truly, truly loves because he's most of the time, in an advantageous situation.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
God damn it.
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you. There's no. There's no. And look, I'm not saying always. Not every time, because there are. Sometimes men get married and women have more. But more times than not, it's the man. And so I'm just gonna.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, look, you know what?
Shannon Sharpe
I want my partner to be, but you, not Finn, to come in and be with me for five years, ten years, in fact. You about to walk out here with half. Oh, no.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, me? Because that's. That's exactly what they're gonna do. That's exactly what they've always done in general. That's why I say. When I think about. When I think about the idea and the ideals of marriage in general, most of the time it benefits the woman, especially on the back when things don't work. Even. Even with that, even with the statistics, with the divorce rates still being extremely high and continuing to climb, I still would love to be married. I still. I still would love to be able to share my wins with someone. I would love that.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I get it, too. Everybody keep talking about, I feel a prenup is setting you up for failure. Well, why sign a contract? Why sign a contract to go to work? That's sitting you up for failure. Because that's telling you you don't trust your boss.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
So you don't. You don't trust your partner. If you have to have a contract legally where it says. Listen, you get.
Shannon Sharpe
I just want. I just. I Just want there to be an understanding. Because what you. How many times you say, I don't want nothing from you. I don't want nothing from you. And the minute you get in a position to get something, you want everything. So I just want to. I just want this paper that says, okay, this is what you're gonna get. Nothing more, nothing less.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Half of the time, you know, businesses. Marriages is a business construct. You know that. Yes, it's a business. You know. You know, I don't. I don't want to dive deep into it, but it's. It's something that. That I do value. Something that I do value. Something that I do like and, and, and, and. And. And want. I'm gonna get it too. You hear me? On. I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get my family. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get that marriage. And, and it's. It's. It's. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but look, that. That's. That's. Man, I don't. I don't. He do what he want to do. He don't want to get married. Okay, bro, you ain't got to get married. But if you don't want to sign a pre. If people sign a prenup. Some people. I mean, some people don't. I mean, I can see. Ocho, hang on a problem if we come in together and like, I got married when I was in college, okay?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
Women got nothing but how you come in. I'm worth X. And then you come in, and then all of a sudden, I'm gonna be half the man I was when I met you monetarily. Come on now, that don't seem fair to me. Yeah, it's because here's what happened during the divorce.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Come on.
Shannon Sharpe
They take half the money and all the hoo. Ha. Now you tell me the fairness in that, Ocho.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
They take half the money in all the hoohah and they go to somebody else, some other dude. Enjoying all your hard work?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
All your heart. Yeah. I don't like that part. Hey, statistically, it's scary, so I understand what he's talking about.
Shannon Sharpe
So that's. That's. That's my thing, man. Oh, hey, Judge, hold on. How much you say she get? I mean, I should be able to go. I should be able to go over there on the Monday and the Thursday, dog. Oh, Judge, come on now. Damn. Hook it up.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, you gotta put. Yeah, you got to put that in the contract. You got to put that in the prenup.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
If and when. If we happen to break up, I still have access on a Monday and a Thursday to get some of that hoo ha.
Shannon Sharpe
You taking half the money. So you will take all the money. You will take half the money, all the hoo ha. So what's in it for me again?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Which is why marriage is not beneficial to the man and never has been.
Shannon Sharpe
And then, and then, and then, and then he up here in the. At the house with the pool, the seven bedroom.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Six baths.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Driving your car. Yeah. Because she won the cars now. She won the cars in the divorce settlement. So she and she and your BMW. Yeah, he dry. He driving your BMW 7 780i or whatever it is.
Shannon Sharpe
We over there. Hey. I pull a. We over there. Hey. Oh, holidays. Fix the extra plate for you boy. Are you gonna be over there with him for sure. Honey, I'm home. Oh, my bad. Hey, quita, I'm home.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, I got a kid.
Shannon Sharpe
Everything. Ocho.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, when you know, you know that's a thought about Uncle Man. I would think about it. When I think about finances and women. Always wanted a man that's. That's stable, that's financially.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I ain't got no problem with that.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. But then I look at some of the wealthiest men in the world some of the wealthiest men in the world and what it takes to keep a woman happy. And I think about the men that have the most money and still are unable to keep a woman happy. They have everything. They can give you everything. How is it still possible that the richest man in the world, the Jeff Bezos, the Bill Gates, the Warren Buffett's or there's some other wealthy men of that status that have been married and they divorce. And sometimes you hear from the wives, I just wasn't happy like. So think about when you think. Think about people.
Shannon Sharpe
You're looking for happiness in someone else though. Ocho. Happiness is not something that you find. Happiness is something that you create.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, that's from.
Shannon Sharpe
You do that though, right.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I think that's the hard part. The responsibility of women being happy. It's the solely relied to for the man to make her happy. So I think that's. That's where the problem lies. I don't. Don't give me that responsibility because I already have enough on my plate. Please, please don't make me be the reason you're happy. You already be happy, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Women keep. Women love to talk about. It don't take much to make me happy. Stop it.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Stop me.
Shannon Sharpe
The Wind blowing.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
You saying, boy, listen.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, such and such pissed me off at work today. Damn. Now it's my job to come in, and I got to be Richard Pride. I gotta be getting. I got to be Richard Pryor. I got to be Dr. Ruth.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
And the funny thing, when you. When you ask the question, you ask, let's say you line up 100 women. You line up 100 women. You ask 100 women the same question. What makes you happy? And whatever makes them happy. It's never anything involving or having to do with you. Never, never, ever. And they say, oh, it's so easy to make you happy. But if it's so easy to make you happy, how come nobody's been able to do it? Not short term. Short term is easy. You know, honeymoon. Honeymoon phase. Oh, my God. You get the year three, you get the year four, and see if the happiness is still the same. The same to love, to do with you. Everything.
Shannon Sharpe
Just be honest and communicate with us. Y'all don't like to talk it. I don't want to talk about it. You should know what you mean I want to have the communication. You should know what I want for my birthday. You've been with me for three years. How you don't know?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
What you want to eat tonight? Oh, you don't know what I want to eat? No, I don't. That's why I asked your ass. Hell if I knew. I just went and picked it up anyway. Yeah, and then you got mad about, why don't you call and ask me what I wanted?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, it's difficult. It's difficult. It's difficult. I say it all the time. It's impossible to keep a woman happy long term. Long term. Long term. That's why so many stop listening to.
Shannon Sharpe
You Women listen to women, listen to other women that ain't even married. But they. Them group chats talk about and what. What they think is ideal for a man. You ever had a man? That was your. If you had a man. Oh, I had this man, and he's. He's ideal. Where is he now? Why don't you keep him? He's id. If he was ideal, why is he gone? Now?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hold on, hold on. Another thing.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, he was ideal. He was perfect. Oh, he was everything. The man. Hey, how did she tell me what time Ocho, she said, hey, you, everything I want. He said, your height, start with six and your weight, start with two. I can work with everything else. I can work with everything else. So I just tried to figure out, Ocho, if He was ideal.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Why are we here?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, yeah. Ask another. Ask a woman her expectations from a man. Ask him her expectations. And watch how unrealistic it sounds. It's a build a bear. It's a robot.
Shannon Sharpe
But you. But Ocho, there's not a man or a woman created that's gonna be everything that you want. You just hope they have enough of the qualities that what you're looking for. The ones that they don't, you're okay with. They don't have them. Yeah, they have enough. But if you go to say, oh, I got 25 things and he need to have 23 of them, girl, good. Move on, child, please.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no. Denzel Washington clarifies that he's not retiring. I didn't say I was going to go into retirement. I say I. It has. I said it has to be a level of interest to me.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
He going nowhere.
Shannon Sharpe
No, he just says he want. I mean, basically he said, I. I just want to. I just want to work with the best. I think that Black Panther, Ryan Coogler, he's doing something with him. He's always done something with the Scots. Ridley Scott.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
That's Spike Lee. Yeah. I mean, you know, obviously, you've done a lot with Spike Lee. Inside man, Devil in Blue Dress. He done Harlem Blues. You know, he's done. That's. Those are Spike. But he. Ridley Scott. I think he used to do some stuff with his. With Ridley's brother. Yeah, but look, then at this point in time, he can do whatever he want to do.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
He can. But the roles that do, whatever the rules that he takes at this point in his career have to be right.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. More better blues.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, More better blues. I remember Glad he got Gladiator 2 coming out.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, Gladiators. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Ridley Scott.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Come out, what, next week, right? Next week, I think the 20th, 22nd, if I'm not mistaken.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Antoine Fuqua did Training Day.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I think Antoine did an equalizer.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Also.
Shannon Sharpe
Manny Fresh claims that he wrote the hook to who Let the Dogs out by the Baja Men by accident. Fresh sat down with Nyla Simone and on the we need to Talk podcast and shared how the hook became the beat. I was programming something in the studio, and the dudes who made the song, they were like, bro, could you help us with a song? I was just like, I'm busy doing something right now. And they. And they were like, just like, give us a hook. So I was just like, who let the dogs out? Who. Who and closed the door, man. Man, get the F out of here. And the song came out. I was like, wait a minute. I was just saying that to them in the studio. Yeah, Fresh Change musical history within help on the song.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I didn't know that.
Shannon Sharpe
I didn't either. Nobody. I don't think anybody knew that.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
And the funny they changed it a little bit because it's who let the dogs out? And it's a bark. The woof woof. And I'm probably Manny Fresh probably probably.
Shannon Sharpe
Said who, who, who?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Like who let them out?
Shannon Sharpe
And they let them out. Right?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
They changed it to the bark.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I wonder, does he get royalties for that or. No.
Shannon Sharpe
Hell no.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
So they stole his idea? Basically.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. That happens all the time. Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, it does.
Shannon Sharpe
That's why you better have copyright or patent it.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right. Damn, that's crazy.
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Shannon Sharpe
Now it's time for our last segment of the day. Is time for Q and A. Cali Boy S ASMR Sup Uncle? No Joe Saw you at the game today. I was dripped out my night clap shirt. P.S. should Trey Lance start? Wait.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Somebody. Somebody was in. They was in. They saw you.
Shannon Sharpe
You. I wasn't at the game.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, but it was freezing cold. He had on the nightcap. I didn't. That cold. Wait. Oh, it was freezing out there. What?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, y'all, what you want me to say?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I. I wish I would have saw him. I wish I would have saw him. That Boulder atmosphere was nice, man. Made it a Ralphie, you know, the little. The buffalo.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it was.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
It's a girl. Ralphie's a girl.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, everybody knew that, Ocho.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
A girl named Ralphie.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
And then I was expecting to see this big ass buffalo come out. Man, she's so little.
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She's so.
Shannon Sharpe
She's so little.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I'm like, this is it.
Shannon Sharpe
She's still a thousand pounds, Ocho.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, but she little uncle, like, I'm telling you, if you. If you see her, if you see. I've seen her when she came out and I'm looking like, what? Like, I can handle that.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, what do you want Bodacious to run out there? You wanted a.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
When you think of a buffalo, when you think about a full size buffalo, they are huge.
Shannon Sharpe
So let me ask you a question. Who's gonna hold a full size buffalo?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
The men. There are three men on each side of the buffalo. Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. But you think they're gonna hold a one ton buffalo? Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Get me out there. Get me out there.
Shannon Sharpe
Clearly, you've never been on the farm. And first and second of all, I've never been on, you know, animals. Animals that have testicles. Males.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right? That's why they use. That's why they use females, huh? I know, I know, I know. I understand. I was. I was expecting Ralphie to be this, you know, enormous, and it's like, oh, look at Ralphie. But it was like, oh, look, he's so cute and little. He was like. He was like, teddy bear.
Shannon Sharpe
No, he ain't like teddy bear. J back said, yo, Uncle Cho, what's some of the things you heard from defenders at the line of scrimmage? Something crazy or something. Some outlandish trash talk.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Let me see who talked back to me? Nobody ever talked actually during the game. The only person who talked previous to a game was Fred Smoot. I'm not sure if people in the chat are familiar with Fred Smoot. Legendary, legendary player. I think he went to Mississippi State, if I'm not mistaken. He talked. Fred talk. He talking. He talked. When he losing, you could catch a ball him. He's still talking. He's probably the only one that really talked to me. Nobody else? Nobody else really?
Shannon Sharpe
Really. They was given specific instructions not to talk because I Was talking.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Normally started out, you know, jovial, but, you know, they started talking crazy. So I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Whoa. Don't do that. 4kt. Say, what if the NBA, NFL and NBA switch draft system, The Pistons. Pistons would get the number one pick every year. Yes. Then what would be their incentive to win?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Ah, that's a good one.
Shannon Sharpe
That's why. That's why they went to the lottery system. Because teams was tanking to get the number one pick, right? So, no, we got to make it. So. Hey, okay, you might have the worst record and you might have the most ping pong balls, but there's no assurances that you're going to get the number one pick, Right. Unless you're San Antonio. They seem to always, when they have daddy lottery, they get the number one pick every damn time. How the hell. How the hell you get David Robinson, Tim Duncan and Wendy? Ain't no damn good karma. They got. They got two first battle hall of Famers. MVPs. Yeah, and WEMBY look like he's going to be, you know, all. All of them was, was, was, was a rookie of the years. Tony boy said, uncle. No. Joe is two seconds left at a tie game. Fourth and goal. Great at quarterback. Who's he throwing the ball to? The game winner, you or Ocho? Ocho ain't gonna be able to run nothing but a slant. He can't elevate over nobody.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Well, I got a 47 inch vertical. Man, what you talking about?
Shannon Sharpe
I can't. Well, you ain't never display it.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't never display it.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I have to because nobody was ever that close to me where I was.
Shannon Sharpe
Had to at the goal line. Would you run out the goal line and catch it up in the stands?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh. Cause I always score from far out.
Shannon Sharpe
Exactly. Me, to answer your question, me, Carlin Lebreton. Happy birthday to my little boy Sean, who turned six today. Sean, happy birthday. Your mom, Carlin, wants to wish you a happy birthday. She say you're the best little boy ever. I take a word for it. Happy birthday, young man.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Happy birthday.
Shannon Sharpe
G.Knocks171 Uncle No Joe are my two favorite people. My name is Greg. Can you wish my wife Ria and son Tez happy birthday? Can you get Dr. Rachel Ross on nightcap? She promotes men, prostate and sexual health. Oh, yeah. Hey, Ria, Tez, Happy birthday. Greg want to wish you, the wife and his son a very happy birthday. It's funny, y'all got the same birthday. I'm assuming. Maybe it's A couple of days apart, but he wanted to wish both of you a happy birthday because we're on tonight, so. Real Taz. Happy birthday, Greg. Thank you for your support. Appreciate you watching, appreciate you listening. Appreciate your support, everybody at Nightcap. Appreciate you. Rachel Ross, I'm not familiar with her, but. But I'm gonna do some research, you know. You know, the Rosemary gotta be with their sexual help. They do it really good. They do really good. Yeah. Hey, why you keep on laughing? You know who Richard Ross is? Oh, I don't know anything about that. Thank you guys for joining us for Nightcap college football style.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Wait till y'all see us tomorrow.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, we're gonna be on one tomorrow.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Wait till you see them Bengals who y'all play tomorrow. We play the Chargers.
Shannon Sharpe
I got the Chargers.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
What?
Shannon Sharpe
They probably couldn't would let them flex out of it. They don't Not. Not in no Sunday Night Football. Absolutely not. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's Ocho, the bingo ring of fame artery. Liberty City is on the Pro bowl of the all Pro. That's him. Shadow boxing on the radio, on your screen. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that, like, button. And guys, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from, every subscriber counts. We thank you for counting. We thank you for mattering. We thank you for your support. Check out Shade by laportier. We have an abundance in stock, and if you can't find it in a city or state near you, we'll ship it directly to your door. You got the holidays right around the corner. Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's. We want to make sure you have a very, very festive holiday season. And please drink responsibly. Check out my media company page on all these platforms. That's Shake Shame Media. And my clothing company, that's 84. With 84 being spelled out. I was held when I was wearing shirts. I lied for you before I lied to you. Nightcap hoodies. Stay with me now. Hoodies. And of course, our bestsellers, Uncan Ocho Teas. And we also have it in black. Quantities are limited, so make sure you grab yours while supplies last. The number 12 Georgia Bulldogs defeated the number 7 Tennessee Volunteers, 31 to 14. Number 17 Colorado continues to roll. Move to 8 and 2, 49, 20, 24 Victors over the Utah Utes. Oh, as Travis Hunter had five catches for 55 yards, a five yard rush touchdown, three tackles, interception and one pass breakup. He's now DraftKings betting favorite to win the Heisman. Florida defeats LSU 27 16. Oregon survives a scare on the road in Wisconsin 16 to 13 as they outscored the Badgers 10 nothing in the fourth quarter to stay unbeaten. Ashton Gentee ran for 100, ran for 159 yards, three touchdown and now has 1893 rush yards on the season. Deshaun Mitch hey and shout out to Savannah State's own DeSean Mitchell broke Shannon Sharp's record single game record that he set in 1989 with a 12 catch, 227 yard, two touchdown performance. Deshaun, congratulations on the record. Congratulations on being named first team all conference and very interesting and cool story. Sorry that it had to be is like this but Money Williams, he is a player from Montana, correct? Yeah, he scored 30 of Montana's 57 points on 8 of 15 shooting 47 from the 3. But he lost both of his parents, his sister and he took over the responsibility of raising the younger siblings. There are three and they've already raised $128,651 of the $150,000 goal which I believe will rise. Congratulations Money. Sorry about the hardship, sorry that what you're going through, but you're doing what your mom and dad, I'm sure they'll be extremely, they would be extremely, extremely proud of you and your sister for doing the right thing. Pray it up for you bro. Thank you for all that you've done for your siblings and we wish you nothing but the best. Thank you for joining us for Nightcap. We will see you tomorrow. The Volume.
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Life, whatever, but never more than 10 minutes.
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Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 2: Inside the NBA, Aliens Exist, Marriage Prenup
Release Date: November 17, 2024
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
Duration: Approximately 54 minutes
The episode kicks off with a deep dive into LeBron James' impressive career and the recent end of his streak of four consecutive triple-doubles (04:36). Shannon Sharpe highlights LeBron's adaptability and sustained high-level performance despite not having his best shooting night. Shannon remarks, “It’s not that the longevity. It’s the level in which he played at” (05:35).
A significant portion of the discussion centers around who currently holds the title of the best player in the NBA. Shannon fervently argues that Nikola Jokić is the top player, emphasizing his stat line: “He’s averaging 30 points, 14 rebounds, 12 assists. He’s shooting 56% from the floor. He’s fifth in scoring, first in rebounding, first in assists” (10:13).
Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson challenges this by bringing up other stellar players like Luka Doncic, Anthony Davis, Giannis Antetokounmpo, and Kevin Durant. However, Shannon maintains his stance, praising Jokić’s basketball IQ and versatility. Shannon states, “That’s what’s so impressive... handling the ball, getting up and down the court” (06:43). Ochocinco acknowledges the impressive numbers but remains unconvinced about Jokić being the best, prompting a lively back-and-forth.
Shannon provides updates on the NBA draft system’s move to ESPN, ensuring listeners that beloved personalities like Charles Barkley, Shaquille O’Neal, Kenny Smith, and Ernie Johnson will continue to be part of the broadcast. Shannon enthusiastically states, “They’re the goal. They’re what Howard Cosell and Don Meredith were for Monday Night Football” (12:46).
Shannon and Ochocinco shift gears into a humorous debate about the existence of aliens, particularly questioning if extraterrestrial life resides in the ocean. Shannon jokes, “I ain’t worried about no alien, something I ain't never seen” (17:58). Ochocinco counters, expressing skepticism about aliens being in the sea, saying, “I doubt that there's extraterrestrial life... it's definitely not in the sea” (16:40).
The hosts engage in playful banter about mythical sea creatures and the likelihood of government concealment of alien life, ultimately agreeing that the real "aliens" to worry about are "the crazy ones" on Earth.
A substantial segment of the episode delves into the complexities of marriage and the role of prenuptial agreements. Chad shares his perspective, stating, “When I think about... marriage in general, most of the time it benefits the woman” (25:18). Shannon echoes similar sentiments, highlighting the financial implications for men in the event of a divorce: “They take half the money and all the hoo ha” (28:28).
The conversation becomes more personal as the hosts discuss why they prefer prenups. Shannon explains his stance by comparing marriage contracts to work contracts, questioning the necessity of formal agreements: “Why sign a contract? They said they wanted to hire you. You said you was going to work, so why sign a contract?” (25:00).
Chad reinforces his viewpoint by discussing societal expectations and the unrealistic standards often placed on marriages, arguing that happiness should be self-created rather than dependent on a partner: “Happiness is not something that you find. Happiness is something that you create” (30:53).
Both hosts express skepticism about the long-term sustainability of marital happiness, with Shannon questioning the feasibility of keeping a partner happy consistently: “It’s impossible to keep a woman happy long term” (32:32). They critique societal narratives around ideal partners and the mismatch between expectations and reality, emphasizing the importance of communication and realistic expectations in relationships.
Shannon briefly touches on Denzel Washington's statements about not retiring, highlighting his ongoing commitment to quality collaborations with renowned directors like Ryan Coogler and Spike Lee. Shannon notes, “He’s always done something with Spike Lee” (35:08).
An entertaining anecdote is shared about Manny Fresh claiming to have accidentally written the hook for "Who Let the Dogs Out," illustrating the challenges of creative contributions in the music industry. Shannon states, “So they stole his idea? Basically” (37:31).
In the final segment, Shannon and Ochocinco engage with listener questions and shout-outs. They address topics ranging from game experiences to personal shout-outs, maintaining the lively and humorous tone throughout. Notable moments include birthday wishes and discussions about Buffalo mascots, showcasing the hosts' camaraderie and connection with their audience.
Shannon Sharpe on LeBron James:
“It’s not that the longevity. It’s the level in which he played at” (05:35).
Shannon Sharpe on Nikola Jokić:
“He’s averaging 30 points, 14 rebounds, 12 assists. He’s shooting 56% from the floor. He’s fifth in scoring, first in rebounding, first in assists” (10:13).
Chad Johnson on Marriage:
“When I think about... marriage in general, most of the time it benefits the woman” (25:18).
Shannon Sharpe on Happiness:
“Happiness is not something that you find. Happiness is something that you create” (30:53).
In this episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson navigate a variety of engaging topics, from dissecting the current NBA landscape and debating the best player in the league to humorously debating the existence of aliens and providing candid discussions on the complexities of marriage and prenuptial agreements. Their blend of sports analysis, personal insights, and lighthearted banter offers listeners a comprehensive and entertaining experience, whether they're NBA enthusiasts, relationship gurus, or just fans of the hosts' dynamic chemistry.
Note: Timestamps correspond to the transcript provided and may vary slightly in the actual podcast episode.