Nightcap Hour 2: Isiah Thomas BACK to BEING MESSY about Michael Jordan + Wembanyama CAMPAIGNS for NBA MVP + Knicks LOSE 7 GAME WINNING STREAK + CONCERNED Boyfriend SEARCHES for his GIRL + Sweden Makes SEX a SPORT?!

Summary

Club Shay Shay – "Nightcap Hour 2" (March 27, 2026)

Hosted by: Joe Johnson (ISO), Chad Ochocinco (Ocho), and recurring co-host
Key Topics: NBA legends drama, MVP race, Knicks’ struggles, viral boyfriend woes, and Sweden making sex a sport

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into some of the juiciest debates and trending stories in sports and culture:

• The ongoing feud between Isiah Thomas and Michael Jordan—complete with new “what if” scenarios
• Victor Wembanyama’s public campaign for NBA MVP and heated MVP race debate
• The current state of the Knicks after a lost streak (and a frustrated Mitchell Robinson)
• Plenty of game recaps and mid-season awards talk
• Viral pop-culture stories—like a boyfriend’s social media search for his missing girlfriend in Houston and Sweden’s move to make sex a sport
• The hosts’ trademark banter, humor, and stories from their own careers

Read on for detailed breakdowns, notable quotes, and timestamps!

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Isiah Thomas Back to Being Messy about Michael Jordan

[03:40–15:55]

Key Points:

• Isiah Thomas floats a hypothetical: if Kevin Durant had replaced Michael Jordan on the ‘90s Bulls, they’d still win six titles.
  • "You replace Jordan with KD, they still win six championships." (Joe Johnson, 04:12)
• The crew dives into the decades-old Isiah vs. Jordan beef, focusing on Isiah’s Dream Team snub and long-standing resentment.
  • "What's the issue with Isaiah Thomas and why he's always jabbing at Jordan and Jordan never respond?" (Co-host, 04:17)
• Dissection of Dream Team politics: Isiah’s credentials, Pistons’ hard-nosed reputation, and the infamous handshake snub.
  • "Isaiah Thomas should have been on the Dream Team, no matter what you think...John Stockton was not better than Isaiah Thomas." (Joe Johnson, 04:47)
• Discussion of media narratives—was it really Jordan who kept Isiah out?
  • "Your perception, right, that's your reality." (Joe Johnson, 08:24)
• Jordan’s media silence and power over his own legacy.
  • "He ain't finna go back and forth and get into the media, bro...he just never speak to you again." (Joe Johnson, 09:27)
• The cycle of old grudges, the price of closure, and why Isiah will never truly “let it go.”
  • "He ain't letting it go. I'm just saying. So if you expect him to let it go, he's not going to let it go. And Jordan ain't gonna respond." (Joe Johnson, 15:36)

Memorable Quote:

“The only way I play is if Isaiah Thomas is not playing. I don't think [Jordan] did that...I think due to the Pistons not shaking the Bulls’ hand...they kind of just put it together.”
— Chad Ochocinco (07:44)

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NBA MVP Race – Wembanyama’s Campaign, Jokic Dominance, SGA, Jalen Brown’s Impact

[19:42–24:44]

Key Points:

• Wembanyama’s “three-prong” MVP case:
  1. Defensive dominance
  2. Head-to-head records (almost sweeping OKC)
  3. Impact beyond points
  • "My first one would be defense is 50 of the game and it's undervalued so far." (Joe Johnson on Wimby's campaign, 19:57)
• Jokic’s statistical dominance (23-21-19 game) and the hosts’ awe at his all-around performance.
  • "Did I see Jokic last man? 23, 21 and 19." (Joe Johnson/Chad Ochocinco, 21:05)
• Discussion on who deserves MVP:
  • SGA (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander) favored for best record
  • Jalen Brown’s unexpected value after major Celtics changes
  • Debates on how close the race might get if San Antonio overtakes OKC
• Injuries and awards eligibility: Cade Cunningham's missed games impact

Notable Exchange:

"Nobody can match what [Wembanyama] does defensively. The next step for him is to evolve offensively."
— Chad Ochocinco (20:07)

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Knicks Lose 7-Game Streak, Charlotte’s Rise, and Rookie of the Year Debate

[24:44–30:44]

Key Points:

• Knicks’ loss to Charlotte; Mitchell Robinson vents on Instagram about effort and team frustrations.
  • “Don’t even matter. Unless we change our approach, we ain’t doing ish special. Keep that bull jive up, myself included.” (Mitchell Robinson via Joe Johnson, 24:44)
• Charlotte’s on a tear—shooting lights-out from 3, deep roster, and surprising chemistry
  • “They shoot the three ball. They made 26 threes the other night.”—Joe Johnson, 25:57
• Praise for Knipple and LaMelo Ball’s playmaking; Charlotte as a potential playoff spoiler
• Rookie of the Year (ROY): Heated debate between Cooper Flag and Knipple; suggestion to split the award
  • “Cooper Flag [is] probably forced a little more...but Knipple, if you watch him play, nothing’s forced. Everything comes easy.” (Chad Ochocinco, 28:18)
  • “Why not do co-rookie of the year, like you did for Grant Hill?” (Chad Ochocinco, 29:16)

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“Concerned Boyfriend” Goes Viral Searching for Missing Girlfriend in Houston

[31:58–36:47]

Key Points:

• Playful discussion of a viral story—a man tweeting frantically for his girlfriend who’s “stuck” in Houston after a weekend
  • “My girl’s still in Houston, bro. My girl’s still in Houston. Are all the flights out of Houston delayed? It’s not funny anymore.” (Joe Johnson quoting the viral boyfriend, 32:13)
• Cynical, humorous advice: “Chalk that one up. Don’t chase no one.”
  • "If you got to come to social media to look for her, you know what's going on." (Co-host, 32:44)
• Extended comedic riff on excuses (“phone died for five days,” “on do not disturb”) and calling out obvious relationship red flags
• Hosts reminisce about the universal experiences of being “got” (cheated on), with playful, sometimes self-deprecating, examples

Memorable Quote:

“When you’re the two for a very long time, you’re hesitant to want to be one. You understand how cold the game is.”
— Co-host (36:12)

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Sweden Makes Sex a Sport

[39:42–42:15]

Key Points:

• Sweden’s official declaration of sex as a sport and plans for a “tournament”
• Spirited, irreverent takes on what “makes a sport” and how sex could fit the bill
  • "There's so many different ways it can happen...it's a skill set." (Co-host, 40:17)
• Comparison to taboos of the past: nostalgia for Daisy Dukes and reflection on shifting norms in media and public life

Memorable Exchange:

“24-second clock go off, I’m gone. I tell you what, that 24-second clock couldn’t catch me…”
— Joe Johnson (41:17)

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Miscellaneous Topics, Listener Q&A, and Story Time

[47:02–74:44]

Game Recaps & NBA Chatter

• College hoops updates and notable wins (Arizona, Illinois, Iowa, Purdue)
  • “Arizona, the number one seed in the west, move on after a 21-point victory over the Arkansas Razorbacks and gave Cal his worst loss in tournament history.” (Joe Johnson, 76:38)
• Praises and critiques of underdog teams
• In-depth fan questions on favorite restaurants, team dynamics, and more
• Mount Rushmore of in-game NBA dunkers:
  • Vince Carter, Dr. J, Sean Kemp, Dominique Wilkins, LeBron get namechecked
  • "Vince, Sean Kemp definitely was an in-game dunker. Ant Man." (Joe Johnson, 64:55)

Story Time & Personal Anecdotes

• The hosts share stories about college days, lost Pell Grant money, and brawls (59:01)
• Discussion of classic chain restaurants, foodie talk (Maggiano’s, Olive Garden, local favorites in LA and Miami)
• Reflections on how players learn from legends, T-Mac, Penny Hardaway mentorship
  • "I just used to ask a lot of questions...Just try to get some game from them." (Chad Ochocinco, 70:28)
• Jovial trash talk about fantasy starting lineups and “who’s the GOAT?” lists

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Isiah Thomas & Jordan feud:

  “He [Isiah] ain't letting it go... If you expect him to let it go, he's not going to let it go. And Jordan ain't gonna respond.”
  — Joe Johnson (15:36)

• Wembanyama MVP argument:

  “Nobody can match what he does defensively... I think he will eventually become MVP.”
  — Chad Ochocinco (20:07)

• Knicks’ struggles:

  “Unless we change our approach, we ain’t doing ish special. Keep that bull jive up, myself included.”
  — Mitchell Robinson via Joe Johnson (24:44)

• Relationship game:

  “The game has always been the same, and the game has never been fair. The better you learn to play it, the better off you're gonna be, man.”
  — Co-host (34:47)

• Sweden making sex a sport:

  “There's so many different ways it can happen. It's a skill set!”
  — Co-host (40:17)

• On learning from NBA legends:

  “Any of them dudes…I just always asking information on how I could better my game...just be a sponge.”
  — Chad Ochocinco (70:28)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Isiah Thomas vs. Jordan grudge & Dream Team politics: 03:40–15:55
• NBA MVP race (Wembanyama, Jokic, SGA, Jalen Brown): 19:42–24:44
• Knicks’ streak snapped, Charlotte Hornets’ surge, Rookie of the Year talk: 24:44–30:44
• Viral 'boyfriend lost his girl in Houston' story: 31:58–36:47
• Sweden declares sex a sport: 39:42–42:15
• Q&A, NBA fan culture, story time, food recs, fantasy lineups: 47:02–74:44
• Closing recaps and listener appreciation: 76:38–end

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Club Shay Shay’s Nightcap delivers its signature blend of NBA insider talk, playful storytelling, expert hot takes, and locker-room humor—making it a must-listen for sports fans who love the culture surrounding the game as much as the action on the court.

Transcript

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[Joe Johnson]

Isaiah Thomas floated a wild hypothetical about what would have happened if Kevin Durant, not Jordan, had been steering the ships for those iconic 1990s Chicago Bulls teams. I said, Kevin Durant, if you would have played back in our era, you would have put it in your triple post and mid post area and they would have took Michael Jordan out. You would have played Pippen, you to play with coat. We would have had he would have had six championships. Absolutely. With all them around him, he gets to post up in the mid range. Yeah, I think he could do the same thing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on. He's saying if Jordan wasn't on the team and it was kd, he said

[Joe Johnson]

if K. If you replace Jordan with kd, they still win six championships.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, I have a question Joe, and before you even answer, Joe, hey, can, can, can can somebody please explain to me what's the issue with Isaiah Thomas and why he's always jabbing at Jordan and Jordan never respond. But every few months Jordan ain't gonna never respond. He always comes back at Jordan because

[Chad Ochocinco]

with some I think Isaiah Thomas probably one of the only cats who got a winning record against Michael Jordan. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Oo it goes back to the dream.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, it goes well. Yeah. Him not being on it's the dream team.

[Joe Johnson]

Isaiah Thomas should have been on the dream team no matter what you think and it was a great team. Assemble. John Stockton was not better than Isaiah Thomas. Isaiah Thomas was a two time champion at the time of the selection. Isaiah Thomas was a two time champion and a finals mvp. That's un. And and guess what? He beat Magic in Magic's era. He beat Bird in Bird era.

[Co-host/Guest]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

They ended, he ended the big three Celtics. The Pistons did. Nobody else did. He beat Magic and Kareem and Worthy. He did. He beat Dennis Johnson, Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Robert Parrish. Isaiah and the Pistons did that. He does. He, he had earned the right to be on the 92 Dream Team. But, but when he walked off the court after Jordan them finally beat them in 91 and he didn't shake Jordan's hand. Now mind you if you go back and look, go back and look. You know where he Isaiah got that from? Boston.

[Co-host/Guest]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

The Celtics walked out to court and didn't shake Pistons hand. Go back and look it up. And nobody said a mofo word right? Go back and look it up. I'm old enough to remember.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, how many years has it been up?

[Joe Johnson]

92 Dream Team. So you're looking at about 34 years.

[Co-host/Guest]

34 years. Hey Joe, maybe I'm tripping. I don't know. At some point do we not get

[Joe Johnson]

over that Because Isaiah said I missed out two times. I was supposed to be on the 80 team but guess what? They boycotted Soviet because the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. So in 1980America didn't send anybody to Moscow. So 80. So 94 and 84. Jordan was 84. He was already in the league so he couldn't play. You got to realize Jordan got drafted and still got played because he hadn't played a professional game yet. So Jordan played in the 84 Olympics after already being drafted.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So now he said this is my one last final chance right. To get this. I'm an NCAA champion. I'm a, I'm an NBA champion. I'm a finals mvp. I'm going to be a hall of fame. I had Isaiah on the show. I like Isaiah. I don't know if anybody that knows him but if you be around him that he is so engaging. He is. I mean he. And he loves sports. He'll talk any sport with you. Football, basketball, obviously he played at level he's a top 75. He was a top 50 player.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Real brother too.

[Joe Johnson]

He looks at it like this, man. Kept me off the dream team. I, I, Stockton was not better than Isaiah. I don't care what y' all say. I get it. He played 100 years. He's the all time assist leader, he's the all time steals leader. He wasn't better than us.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I agree with you on that. But I still don't think that Jordan went to the USA commission or whatever and was like, man, look, the only way I play is if Isaiah Thomas is not playing. I don't think he did that. I think due to the Pistons not shaking the bull's hand, obviously they came right after that, right? That was that summer, right? Right after that, right? Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think everybody, I think everybody who was over like usa, I think they kind of seen and kind of just put it together and I think when they came to get Jordan's well wishes to be able to play on the USA team, I think they may have brought it to him before he ever even said something about it.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, there are reports out there. I don't know if it's true, but I think Sam Smith wrote it in his book. That's what we reported said he. But you know, who couldn't? So I don't know if that's true. I wasn't there. I just, what is, what is true? What isn't true? Isaiah believed that to be true. And you know, sometimes perception is reality, guys. It might not be true, but your perception, right, that's your reality.

[Co-host/Guest]

You know. You know what makes it even worse is the fact don't respond. Rejoin doesn't say anything. He doesn't talk about the issues. And I mean so that, that makes it even worse and leaves everybody pondering on what really did happen or what really. I mean, it's crazy that Jordan has said nothing. I think at some point, I'm not sure when he gonna sit down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no, no. That man over there run them NASCAR cars. He ain't studying. Y' all talking about some.

[Joe Johnson]

Even if he didn't have nothing going on. That ain't who Jordan is talking.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He ain't never go, he ain't gonna never talk about that.

[Joe Johnson]

You know how Jordan is. Yeah, he just never speak to you again.

[Co-host/Guest]

That's it, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

That's it. He ain't going. But he ain't finna go back and forth and get into the media, bro. Do you know how much NBC probably had to pay that man just to get sit down and do those two, three interviews that he did with some M's.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Plenty of them.

[Joe Johnson]

It's estimated 40 million for three interviews, Ocho.

[Co-host/Guest]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what's estimated. I don't know that, but that's what people threw out there. But I tell you what, it wasn't cheap.

[Co-host/Guest]

No, of course he don't.

[Joe Johnson]

He don't talk. He don't care to talk. Yeah, he talked at an obligation. If you go back and look at it. When he normally talked. Yeah, he talked to Ahmad.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that was his guy.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

On NBC when NBC had the rights. He normally sit down and talk to Ahmad. Yeah, he would go to the podium that, you know, he understood that, but he didn't do a whole lot of stuff. I think maybe one or two times he might have talked to Peter Vessy. I'm not really sure because it's a while. But I know normally when they did an interview, it was Ahmad sitting down with Jordan. Especially. Especially when it came to maybe All Star and NBA Finals.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Amad was his boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, yes.

[Co-host/Guest]

Well, hell, that means Joe was probably one of the first players who had that kind of power the way, the way the players have. Have power today. He had that goddamn power. Probably the only one had that kind of power.

[Joe Johnson]

Maybe in the media, but he didn't have it on his own team because Jerry Cross controlled everything, man.

[Co-host/Guest]

Well, you just said the reason that Isaiah wasn't able to play because Jordan probably didn't want him.

[Joe Johnson]

They knew they needed one guy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It was great. Because you wanted to. You needed that one guy, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You needed the logo.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yes, sir. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It would be great that you could have had all those other guys.

[Co-host/Guest]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

But you needed that one big joker. Yeah, it was it. Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The star of the league, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause you gotta understand, coming off his second NBA championship.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He's already, I think, a two time, three time MVP defensive player of the year. He was the biggest. He was the biggest thing going. And if you want to, if you want to go globally, you gotta get the biggest.

[Co-host/Guest]

Starting with you got to be okay. I know. Hey, 34 years later though, guys, I

[Joe Johnson]

think you'll let it go. If you know Isaiah letting it go right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's not.

[Joe Johnson]

Jordan's not going to respond.

[Co-host/Guest]

You say no,

[Joe Johnson]

because. And the thing is, I could see if there was something that could be done.

[Co-host/Guest]

Nothing can be done.

[Joe Johnson]

If we could re. Ran the hands of time, guys, and we go back and put out there, but ain't nothing can be done. Nope, it's nothing. I mean. I mean, imagine if. I mean, I don't know what the crowning achievement would have been like, but to just to know that you deserve you. You've earned the right to be there, Right?

[Co-host/Guest]

So what does he want, an apology?

[Joe Johnson]

That's what he said. I said. I say Isaiah, I say, Z ain't gonna get that. Ain't coming.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Ain't no scenario you can see with Jordan coming out in the podcast.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no,

[Joe Johnson]

absolutely not. Hell, I mean, you saw. Even Pimp is kind of taking some shots at Jordan, man. Look here. Jordan in his own little Jordan, either.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I. I don't think he gonna.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I. I didn't know. I didn't know they. I. I thought they were close, right? But from what I've been. What I've deduced and what I've heard is that they weren't really never close.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, from listening to Pippin. Yeah, that would. He would make you think that. But, man, I just. I don't know.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, Jordan. Jordan, I was always giving him credit. Like, I could not. I could not have done what I did without him, you know? He's always giving him his credit, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, listen, Uncle Ocho, if y' all notice, it ain't really too many guys that MJ played with on that Bulls team that really give him props, bro. They really talk highly of him. Like, they all kind of take little jabs at him, you know, saying they.

[Joe Johnson]

They do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Saying that he was a tough guy to play with, he was a tough teammate, and he probably was all of that. But, yeah, the man, he had the fire and desire, bro, to come out and compete night in and night out and put forth his best foot, like, he commanded that guys do the same. That's the thing. Like, I think a lot of these. Well, not a lot. I think, you know, some of these dudes who are great, they try to get others to match what they. What they're doing. Uncle Oo. And other guys just can't reach that potential.

[Joe Johnson]

That's why it's hard for great players

[Chad Ochocinco]

to be real, bro, because what you thinking in your head, you trying to convey it to another guy, and hopefully he can see it the way you see it, and it just happened like that.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, they don't see it that way.

[Joe Johnson]

No. That's why most of your great coaches are average players. Look at Coach Belichick. Look at the. Look at the really great coaches, right? Steve Kerr got. Steve was not a. I mean, he was. He was a role player, did his job well. Look at Phil Jackson.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah

[Joe Johnson]

but when you try to get, I mean I think if you see Bill Russell, he won. He was a players coach. Casey Jones. Go to Tom Heisen. Tom Heisen was a damn great player. People don't realize how great Tom Hyson was. Coach, Milwaukee, Lenny Wilkins. But for the most part, I mean especially to modern, modern players because back then. Guys, guys, listen you guys.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They make too much money nowadays. Hell they ain't listening. They talking back in everything.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Co-host/Guest]

that's why I think hey Joe,

[Joe Johnson]

but I've said this Ocho. But I, I've had a conversation with Dick. Like I said I had him on, on the pod many many years ago and I've been, I've been places where he was and had a conversation. He ain't letting it go. I'm just saying. So if you, if you expect him to let it go, he's not going to let it go. And Jordan ain't gonna respond.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, well he just talking to himself at this point.

[Joe Johnson]

He is, he is. WIMBY Gave a three part MVP campaign speech this week. Said my first one would be defense is 50 of the game and it's undervalued so far.

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[Joe Johnson]

The MVP race. I believe I'm the most impactful player defensively in the league. You are second argument would be that we almost swept KC this season and we dominated them three times with their real team. The third argument would be that offense impact is just not points. Joe, do you agree with what Wimby has said and, and his reason for he why he should be named?

[Chad Ochocinco]

He has some points. He has some points, Uncle Ocho. I agree with him with the defense as you know, 50, 50% of the game. And obviously nobody can match what he does defensively. I think the next step for him is to continue to evolve offensively. I don't know what he's averaging right now, Uncle Ocho, but It's probably what about 223 game? I think he'll, he'll end up getting that up. And obviously if San Antonio can continue to be dominant, I don't know if they could take over the number one spot from OKC over the next couple years, but you know, they trended in the right direction. I think he will eventually become MVP.

[Joe Johnson]

He's averaging 24, 11 and 3. 24 points, 11 rebounds, 3.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The only thing is hard about the MVP because damn, you just can't discredit what yokish numbers is, bro. You can't discredit what?

[Joe Johnson]

Did you see Jokic last man?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Come on. Did I see it?

[Joe Johnson]

23, 21 and 19.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like I 19, 19, 19.

[Joe Johnson]

He had 19 assists, 21 rebounds, 23 points.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, hey, Joke. Hey, he be out there. You think you playing goddamn 2k man, with the numbers he putting up?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh yeah, and San Antonio's two games back from the one seed.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, they two games back. I think he got, he got a, he got a, a great argument, Ocho, but he ain't gonna win it this year. He ain't gonna win MVP this year.

[Co-host/Guest]

I thought we all agree that SGA was gonna win.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think SGA is gonna win.

[Joe Johnson]

I think so too. But I think the, the player that probably that has earned it the most based on value is Jalen Brown.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest]

Oh, is that simple.

[Joe Johnson]

Had Boston Celtics as the number two seed without Jason Tatum trading Pre Zingas, getting rid of, trading Holiday, Al Horford leaving. Who had them in?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nobody.

[Co-host/Guest]

Nobody.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nobody. You. You right. Huh? You're right. Jalen Brown has a definitely compelling argument.

[Joe Johnson]

He's averaging 20, I think 28, 6 and 5. He's playing out of his damn mind.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I just, I just, I know they gonna give it to Shay considering that they the number one team in the NBA still. They have the best record.

[Joe Johnson]

And what if they don't have the best record? What if San Antonio overtakes them?

[Chad Ochocinco]

With what?

[Lenovo Advertiser]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

We got about eight by nine games left.

[Joe Johnson]

They. We got 10, about 10 to 12.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I just don't see them lose. I don't see them dropping two, two in a row or two games. I can't see San Antonio kitchen, do they? Because they don't play them no more.

[Joe Johnson]

No, they beat him three out of four.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So I don't see. I don't see. I mean, he ain't the leading scorer in the NBA, but he's. He's probably second.

[Joe Johnson]

How many games they got left?

[Co-host/Guest]

11. What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

They got

[Joe Johnson]

nine, nine, 09?

[Co-host/Guest]

Yep. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It's gonna be very, very interesting back to back. I mean, I hate that, that, that Cade, Cade got hurt. Is gonna miss that 65 game cutoff.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on. I thought, I thought, I thought he could miss like, like five or six games.

[Joe Johnson]

He gotta hear, he gotta come back. But do you rush him back and probably and potentially set him back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Put some padding on that, on that rib cage or something, huh? We trying to get.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. We.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We trying to say, hey, next contract. We trying to sign for the 340.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, he just signed. He just signed 294. 290. He good?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he good. Now, see, that's. You gotta look at it from a standpoint. You got your appetizer, then you got your entree, then you won't come back for a little dessert. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, he'll be back. I mean, he can't be no more than 24, huh?

[Co-host/Guest]

You tried to hit him across the head twice as many times.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You can.

[Co-host/Guest]

Boy getting. Boy getting to that money, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, what you talking about? That man gonna sign another contract for 300. He just signed for 290 something. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

The Knicks just lost their seven game winning streak and Mitchell Robinson is not happy. Following the disappointing performance, Robinson took to Instagram to voice his frustration, saying, don't even matter. Unless we change our approach. We ain't doing ish special. Keep that bull jive up, myself included.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, look, look, Joe, what's he saying? Robinson, he may be feeling the way he played. 26 minutes, 4.6 rebound. But, man, give Charlotte credit.

[Joe Johnson]

Uncle Ocho, them boys no Charlotte been balling, man. They shoot the lights at the ball.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Charlotte is a scary team right now. They are playing great. I watched a lot of this game tonight. I love Knipple, the way he plays. He had 26 and 11 tonight. You got Brandon Miller, who had 21. You got LaMelo, who had 22, and Miles Bridges 17. I like how they play. They got great chemistry. Uncle Oo. I'm talking about they play together. They play the right way, and they got guys who are just flat out balling, bro. Like, they could beat anybody right now in the east, they could beat anybody.

[Joe Johnson]

They shoot the three ball. They made 20s, didn't they make 26 threes the other night? They. They damn near make 15 to 20 a night.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You talking about they shoot the three ball? I'm talking about they shooting the leather off that thing. You hear me? Yeah, I'm talking about. I'm talking about. I'm talking about, man, hey, look, I was so impressed watching him tonight. Just the threes that canipple were taking. He was 6 for 10 from the 3, but he was taking some deep threes. Uncle Ocho and Lamelo out there just playing quarterback. Just find the guys.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't never seen nobody shoot that many. One leg, step back, threes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He got the most unorthodox game in the NBA. I'm talking about it's unorthodox. When I watch him play, I'm like, how is this stuff even going in? But they. They look good, bro. They look like they post season ready. They ready to get somebody some trouble.

[Joe Johnson]

I think they will. I think they're gonna get. What are they. They look like they're gonna probably be in the plan.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You think so? Yeah, yeah, they're gonna probably be in the plan.

[Co-host/Guest]

They might. They might surprise somebody, too, now, I guess.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I guess with Mitchell, Robinson, Uncle Ocho, I think it's the defensive end that he's talking about. You know, they're giving up a lot of points. And, you know, if you want to compete in this league, especially in the NBA, man, you got to be able to guard. But I'm gonna tell y' all something. Charlotte, they not playing, bro. They. They hard to guard. They got a lot of guys who can go off the bounce, create plays, score that ball, my man. They're a fun team to watch. Now, you know, they used to be a doormat. You know, you go into Charlotte. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Guest]

You take that off as a win,

[Chad Ochocinco]

and we can go hang out. Tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

We got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We got Charlotte tomorrow. We're gonna be good. We're gonna run these boys in the ground. Man, please. Nah, you better have your track shoes on.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, and you look at the guys. They got. They got four. They got four guys that can shoot the three ball, and then they got Kobe White they picked up from Chicago coming up. I'm talking about in Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm talking about. He ain't nothing to be playing with no, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I saw him get a 40. A 40 ball to the Lakers last year.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That. Hey, that. That was probably the biggest pickup that they had. Jacoby White, Kobe White. Like, he. I don't know if it's because he back in North Carolina, because, you know, he played it. He played at unc, but, boy, look, he showed comfortable in that Hornets uniform. I tell you that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep. Joe, who you got for rookie of the year? Cooper Flag.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I like caniple, bro. I think flag his points. I think Cooper flag got. I think he. His points are better because, you know, they force feed him. Okay, Ojo, but canipple, if you watch him play, nothing's forced. Everything looks like it comes to him easy. He takes shots within the offense like he just out there hooping, bro. I like Knipper, man. I like. I ain't gonna lie to y'. All.

[Joe Johnson]

Like, I do, too. Hell, he look like he might have 300 threes this year. How many threes he's made? Because he's already got the rookie record, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know how many he'd have made, but I'm talking about he looked good, boy. I'm talking about Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

He got to be like 260, 270 easy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man had 26 points and he.

[Joe Johnson]

So he had 256. 250. 256, too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm talking about. It's quick, too. He get that thing off quick. Who you got? Who you got for rookie? You going.

[Joe Johnson]

I think. I think they won't. I think they won't flag.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, they won't flag. But why not do. Hey, but listen to this ain oo. Why not do co. Well, you give.

[Joe Johnson]

Give him cold like you did Grand Hill.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Two ex teammates from Duke, you know, get do just do cold. Do do do co Rookie of the year. Because can he definitely worthy of it.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, for sure. And he got a better.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And.

[Joe Johnson]

And they got a better record than.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, they gonna be in the play in. They could possibly make the playoff.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they already in the play.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I agree.

[Joe Johnson]

They got nine games to go, Joe,

[Chad Ochocinco]

and where they at now?

[Joe Johnson]

And he has 253. They have nine games left, and he has two. He has 253 made threes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And where they at? They in like the 10 spot, ninth spot, then eighth.

[Joe Johnson]

They tied for eight.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, man, do cold Rookie of the year, you know It. It. I'm sure them dudes are good friends. They. They enjoy it. They enjoy it.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe. They two games back up from the fifth seed, so they could. They could make the playoffs. Forget play in. They could be in the playoffs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They playing good, bro. I'm talking about. They fun to watch. Now, like, usually, I don't even tune in to watch the.

[Joe Johnson]

The Hornets, but, man, what Mitchell Robinson doing?

[Chad Ochocinco]

What he doing?

[Joe Johnson]

This man got his toenail in his hand. I'm gonna keep it. Anybody want to sign Toenail.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y' all had a toenail come out?

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The big. The big toe from stopping the start.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If you play. If you play any sports, boy, you had a toenail. Come on.

[Co-host/Guest]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And all them people done stepped on you with them seven studs. Ah, it cold, man. I shoved the ish out of something, man. God dang.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, it hurt different.

[Joe Johnson]

These my feet they made for. I made to walk on them, not you.

[Co-host/Guest]

I don't think that passed the pain. Boy, people would not understand having somebody step on your foot with seven toes, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

You mean not seven times.

[Co-host/Guest]

Are you. Are you at home and you get up and your pinky toe hit the

[Joe Johnson]

corner of the wall. Kick that bed. But you are, man, you get mad. Get it? I get mad. Wakes. Hey, wake up. How you put the bed? How you put the bed right here?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that's. It'll bring tears in your eyes, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, I'm gonna move. We're gonna move on past this story here. Hey, Joe. Ocho, check this out. A concerned boyfriend has been tweeting and searching for his girlfriend since she left the Houston.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, man, she's in Houston.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, Check this out. He tweeted, my girl's still in Houston, bro. My girl's still in Houston. Are all the flights out of Houston delayed? It's not funny anymore. This be still in Houston.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, you might well choke that one up, baby.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, somebody might go, hey, chalk that.

[Co-host/Guest]

Went up to my My a. My girl. The word my. It sound like ownership to me.

[Take Five/T-Mobile Advertiser]

Hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And she ain't answering the phone either, or a text message.

[Co-host/Guest]

Well, you got. You got to come to social media

[Chad Ochocinco]

to look for, you know what's going on. What's going on, Ocho?

[Co-host/Guest]

I don't know. I know one thing. I don't chase after no ad.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What's going on? She answering the phone. Text message is a.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know, talking about, I ain't see you call for five days,

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, my phone. My phone died

[Co-host/Guest]

for five days. Oh, hold on. They Got. They got a new one now, too. Now.

[Joe Johnson]

What is that?

[Co-host/Guest]

It was, though. It was on do not disturb.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, or airplane mode. Hey, hey, so let me ask you a question. So how the kids get in touch with you so you ain't talking to your kids in five days?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, man. Hey, I'm chucking. Hey, hey, about buddy, man. Go on. Chunk of the Deuces, bro. Now, look, she gonna come back. Now, if you take her back, that's gonna be all on you. You hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's on you, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Look at that thing wide open over there.

[Joe Johnson]

Brian, when she get back, that thing gonna be like a skateboard in the airplane hangar. She been gone that long.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, boy, listen.

[Joe Johnson]

But I know I tell you one thing. I ain't going on social media to look for anything. Hey, guys, check this out, man. Titus got out. Well, Titus ain't gonna get. I gotta keep out here because Tyler go f somebody up. But, but, but Teddy Bear and Thanos.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, guys. Hey, man, can somebody find my dog? Man, I. I play a nice reward. I ain't getting on no damn social media. Talk about my girl bad. Please.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, Uncle Joe, the game is the game, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hello?

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, the game has always been the same, and the game has never been felt.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hello?

[Co-host/Guest]

But the better you learn to play it, the better off you're gonna be, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, look at it.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, if it rang it. Okay, there's a chance. But with that thing, the person that you call does not have voice. Oh, God. Hey, hold on.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, what if. What if you text and instead of it being blue, it's green?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but. Yeah, she got to do that disturb on everything.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that's.

[Co-host/Guest]

That hurt, boy. And then every day.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Co-host/Guest]

Everything started playing in your mind on what she could be doing.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you remember when

[Chad Ochocinco]

you got. Hey, you gotta chalk it up to the game, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Quick. Remember when.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, I was there in the nights that phone.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello?

[Co-host/Guest]

Ringing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hello?

[Co-host/Guest]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

We are. Hey, man, you hold the ultra. I'd have been sliding the hall many times. Hey, talk. Yeah, so he can stop calling. So I can do what I need to do. I can't concentrate. He blowing. You know, I can't.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, concentrate.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm not calling. I can do what I need to do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's a cold game, boy.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey. Oh, hey. Hey, Joe. It's been a cold game. It's been a cold game. Especially when you've been. When you've been. Hello, Stan. You know, when you're the two for a very long time, you. You're very hesitant to want to be one when you understand. How cold.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man, it's a.

[Co-host/Guest]

It's a cold game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You don't want the attachment, man. You just, you know, you won't go have a little fun and, you know, stick and move. Stick and move.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, Uncle Joe. No responsibility. You mean I ain't got to deal with no headache?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hello.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, I ain't got to deal with the nagging, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, listen back. Once upon a time. Once upon a time, guy, you got to talk about that a lot. Me, I'm talking about situations when I was in my 20s. Now when I was 20, I threw caution to the wind. I ain't mess with nobody that was mad if you told me you was married. I'm good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Me neither, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Because I know. I know. I know how. I know how married. I know how. If I was married and. And somebody came up in the house, I deemed that disrespectful. So if I came up in there, all best, but they're following you, so. All right, so I ain't gonna mess with nobody married. Now, just be upfront. You see, it's. Let me make a decision. Let me make a decision. Let me say, okay, I want to deal with this situation, or I don't. But don't get me. And then all of a sudden, you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You hear that knock at the door?

[Joe Johnson]

No, I go to the bathroom. I go to the bathroom. You know, I peek around the corner and you on the phone. You ain't talking to your kids. Cause you talk to your kids in front of me. What, you. You out with your girls, and then you see me coming by.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, no, Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

I already know what time it is. Okay. What? You just be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Just.

[Joe Johnson]

Just keep it a book. I ain't gonna say I. You know, I might be, you know, because I don't want somebody. Somebody coming up to me, you know, you. I'd be like, nah, man, you know, I wouldn't do no mess like that, bro. We just. We just friends. How long you been doing her, man? I ain't probably like seven inches ago.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Seven years.

[Joe Johnson]

Seven years. Come on. Fell. Come on, come on, come on, come on. I'm sorry, Joe. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Seven years. Seven years. Seven years, bro. Hey, man, I'm going to hell. I'm going to hell on, Joe. Joe. I'm going in. I'm sorry. I met seven years ago.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, we can laugh now because we've been able to experience it. There's some. It's not going to Be funny. But when you live long enough, you. You get. Yes, you get it.

[Joe Johnson]

Everybody, everybody doesn't got God. If I don't. I don't care who you are. Yeah, the sad thing is, is that the player talking about he ain't never been got, man. He the one that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He just don't know us because he foolish.

[Joe Johnson]

He's not even enough to believe that he have it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He just don't know it.

[Co-host/Guest]

Sometime you to get him. Sometime you're the one who get gotten. Happens every time. No matter.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, sometimes you catch the touchdown on top of the guy head. Sometimes you get an interception.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, the game is the game.

[Joe Johnson]

I was just joking. Y' all see? Hey, check this out. Sweet. Sweden had made headlines with an official declaration. Sex as a sport. With plans already underway for a tournament, the surprising move has sparked debates about the boundaries of what qualifies as a sport and how it challenges traditional views on both sexuality and athleticism.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A sport.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I like that. Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I like.

[Co-host/Guest]

I like that a lot. Because there's. There's so many different ways it can happen. There's so many different ways it can be done. You hear me? It can be a sport because it's a skill set. When it comes to a sport, there are different sets in that skill sport. You know, different. The different skill sets in the sport that's specifies who makes what.

[Joe Johnson]

So why.

[Co-host/Guest]

Why does Jason Tatum, you know, get a 300. 300 million dollar deal? Why does the six man come off the bench not get as much?

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Co-host/Guest]

Skill set, what they can do? No, the same thing happens in the sport that they talk about.

[Joe Johnson]

Now that's gonna be very interesting though, Ocho.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah. Yeah. I love it too. This is right up my alley. This is right up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What you mean? What you mean, right up your alley? You participate. You partake in this?

[Co-host/Guest]

No, I wouldn't partake. I won't partake in. I'm just saying with great understanding in that area. That's my area.

[Chad Ochocinco]

In your 20s, you would.

[Joe Johnson]

No, yeah.

[Co-host/Guest]

No, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

24 second clock go off, I'm gone. Hey, I tell you what, I bet that 24 second clock couldn't catch me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, as a sport, bro, like, that's gonna.

[Co-host/Guest]

I like that.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, these countries, man, they go, I mean, I.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There.

[Joe Johnson]

And. And this is what they're saying. What? The way we used to look at sex and what we think it was taboo. You couldn't talk about sex? No, I couldn't talk about. You couldn't talk about that. And the, the clothes, I mean, that was. I mean back then when I was a kid, you know, Daisy Duke, you know you had the Dukes of Hazard. And when Daisy Duke came out with the shorts, boy, that was a big old thing, man. Do you know how big? Oh man. Boy, you couldn't. I mean, that was. That was it. And maybe a halter top. That was it.

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No.

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A toaster. No. A hamster in a jetpack.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Good boy.

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[Co-host/Guest]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

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[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but, but, but, but them string bikinis and the thing catacorned in their boot. No sir, no sir.

[Co-host/Guest]

All that was frowned upon back then, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh my God. What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because you never. Because you didn't see it. You didn't see it as much nowadays, right? Man, you go to a swimming pool or a beach boy, you. They gonna have G String. Go to the club.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey Joe, everything that you saw, everything that you saw in Victoria's Secrets or Fredericks of Hollywood, you go to a club.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I see that, no question.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey Joe, you know the funny thing about it? Depending on where you live, like in Miami, you ain't got to be in the club.

[Joe Johnson]

No sir.

[Co-host/Guest]

You ain't got.

[Joe Johnson]

Down the street.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh yeah, in Miami.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You, you, you can go to CVS or Walgreens and that's exactly what you look at, Man.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, Uncle Joe, I went, I went to the game. I went to the game today.

[Joe Johnson]

What game? Oh, the soccer game.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, Brazil. And France is a little friendly. I mean, Brazil lost 2:1 to France. I, I got France probably winning the World Cup. But I went to my, I went to no Cambodia. Took me to a place I'd never been to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, something called Maggiano's, huh? It was a little Italian spot.

[Joe Johnson]

You talking about Maggiano's, the chain?

[Co-host/Guest]

That's what I just said, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it's a chain.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, there it is.

[Joe Johnson]

It's not like rails.

[Co-host/Guest]

Okay, I, I know that. This is my first time. It was my first time.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, okay.

[Co-host/Guest]

It was good. It was good.

[Joe Johnson]

It was awesome. I, I, you know what? I don't want to. I, I bet it was unbelievable. What'd you have? The, the chicken parm.

[Co-host/Guest]

What I had eat. Oh, hey, I had chicken, chicken fettuccine, and I added shrimp to it. I had a shrimp. Hey, you ever had the bread there that they give you when they bring it to the table?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Some garlic bread?

[Co-host/Guest]

I don't know what kind of bread that was, but I asked the man for the recipe. He wouldn't give it to me.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. I went to this one place I'm talking about. This was a bear. I mean, this, this, this, this Italian place, I don't know if you ever heard of it. It's called, like, Olive Garden. Oh, man, that thing. Fine.

[Co-host/Guest]

Who?

[Joe Johnson]

Olive? Olive Garden.

[Co-host/Guest]

Okay. That's another chain restaurant.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You ain't never been. Olive Garden.

[Co-host/Guest]

That's a real restaurant. For real?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's a real restaurant. No, but, but if you talk about like, like rails, where you probably got to know somebody, I mean, you can't get in there unless you know somebody, and the wait list is probably without knowing somebody, you might have to wait six months to a year.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's just ridiculous.

[Co-host/Guest]

What, for a restaurant?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest]

What's so special about it? Because I know you've been in there.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't never been there. No, I mean, it's, it's a very small. And somebody owned all the tables there, so you have to know somebody that owned. Yeah, somebody owned the tables. I mean, you probably. It's what, what about 20, 30 people could have been there at a time?

[Co-host/Guest]

That's it.

[Joe Johnson]

That's it.

[Co-host/Guest]

Oh, that's why. Okay, okay. Hey, where's that?

[Joe Johnson]

It's in New York.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They probably taxing, too.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it's.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, this sound like something tomorrow probably on, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, let's move right along. It's time for. It's time for our final segment of the evening, it's time for Q and A.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, I'm gonna try that. I'm gonna try that all way the go. I'm gonna try that one day. They got that in Miami too, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, they do. I'm sure they do.

[Co-host/Guest]

I'm gonna try that.

[Joe Johnson]

Before we get to our super chats, we got video voicemail from our discord. This one comes from Ihoop Trail. Let's take a listen. What he had to say.

[Co-host/Guest]

What's up? What's up, Ocho? Joe, I know y' all see them hops.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boy. Boy did it.

[Co-host/Guest]

Almost the fifth seed. Now they playing the best. Who visions beat the Pistons. What y' all think about them hops? They gonna make a run or not? Joe, I know you lit. Probably not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What you mean?

[Joe Johnson]

Bring it or not?

[Co-host/Guest]

I mean. I mean, he talked about beating the Pistons, but.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Kate, man, please, man, listen. Hey, look, we can't help who they got out there playing now, you hear me?

[Co-host/Guest]

I. I understand, but you also got to be real.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, we are being realistic because they ascending at the right time. Ocho, you see?

[Co-host/Guest]

I mean, you said the same thing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You said the same thing about we. We didn't let it go. Now, we already talked about that. Talking about the NBA seven game series. Listen, we ain't gonna be in no play in. I know that. We're gonna get us a good seat. And I. I promise you, it ain't. It ain't many teams out there who want to see them hogs, man. They. They playing great. I'm talking about great basketball. I'm talking about. We got a multitude of cats putting up great numbers. Whether it's the Alexander kid who has been tremendous this whole season. We know what JJ's been doing. Jalen Johnson and CJ McCollum, who I think when the postseason hits.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he's playing well.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's the one who's gonna make the huge difference because he keeps everything kind of mellow, chill. Even things. Even when things are a little erratic. He knows how to stay poised and patient and get. And get to his spots to where he can get a bucket or make the right play. I love the team that we have, man. Them dudes has been playing. They've been playing great basketball for probably the past month or so. Yeah, they got a good chance to do something special. They got a chance.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what, guy? I was thinking, Ocho? You got me thinking about Italian. I mean, I can't remember the last time I had Italian food. I can't remember

[Chad Ochocinco]

no pasta none.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I. I don't. I mean, I'm just. Just give me some steak and I'm good. I mean, when I was. When I worked at cbs, I'm like all the steakhouses I heard of, so I went to Peter Luger's a couple of times. I went to Sparks, I went to Kings, I went to Ben Benson's. So I was just trying all. All the steakhouses.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

A Bud, a good friend of mine, Tracy, Tracy Perlman, she worked in the NFL office. She had me off. So we was at Tile Budokan. We was at all these different.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on.

[Co-host/Guest]

I think.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know, I know Tracy. She got like the little mole right there.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no. I know you're talking about. I think that's.

[Chad Ochocinco]

She kind of shorter, light skinned lady.

[Joe Johnson]

No, she.

[Chad Ochocinco]

She a white somebody else. My bad.

[Co-host/Guest]

Y' all be you name. You just naming off restaurants, man. Hey, Uncle Joe, I got to expand my palette or something, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You gotta enhance your text.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, I got the same rotation of restaurants when I'm in Miami, and I ain't changed in like 30 some years.

[Joe Johnson]

I like what I like.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, see? Okay. See, Exactly. So, y', all, I'm a breakfast guy.

[Joe Johnson]

Give me breakfast. Give me all things being equal. Joe, Ocho and Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Give me, like, when you say breakfast, you. You want to eat it in the morning or you want to eat breakfast with it?

[Joe Johnson]

I can eat it anytime. I can eat. I can eat grits, eggs, bacon, sausage, pancakes. I can eat it any time of the day.

[Co-host/Guest]

Same. That's same.

[Joe Johnson]

Same anytime. That's one thing I love about the South.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

well, I got. We got a bunch of restaurants. We got to try the pancakes, huh? I love pancakes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I love pancakes, too. They got to be good, though. I like the edges a little crispy. Yeah, I like my head look crispy.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't like.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't like my pancakes too soft.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm going, Damn, 89 ISO. You can't say woo.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All right, all right, all right, all right. Hey, look, you know what? Hey, look, as I'm watching the game, I said, man, these dudes gonna throw a parade. They gonna have the running of the bulls, you know? Yeah, I know. I know y' all gonna pull out all the bells.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, JoJo, you know, I ain't like

[Chad Ochocinco]

you the first one. Yeah, I know. I know who I'm dealing with. Yeah, yeah, it was Ocho.

[Co-host/Guest]

I came on the show very recently.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You came on here with that old.

[Joe Johnson]

That.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That bull Job. That what you came on here with? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You went.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, you asked Jordan. I see. I see what's going on. I see everything that's going on.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, no, you know,

[Co-host/Guest]

I'm on your side

[Joe Johnson]

now. The Beverly Wilshire, they got a restaurant in there. They got Fred. They got the best.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what we used to stay. And I love the Beverly Wilshire, boy.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, yeah, y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[Co-host/Guest]

Y' all too rich for my blood.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm talking about the team that. The team I play teams I played on. Ocho. We go to la.

[Joe Johnson]

We stayed.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The Wilshire.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, okay.

[Co-host/Guest]

Okay. I thought you said. I think we should. We should stay at the Beverly Wilshire.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no. Hey, that's the Julia Robertson Richard Gere movie.

[Co-host/Guest]

Oh, Pretty Woman.

[Joe Johnson]

Pretty. That's. That's what it is.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah. Yeah, that.

[Joe Johnson]

That.

[Co-host/Guest]

That's too much for me now. When I do go to la, there is one place I go get breakfast when I do. I don't frequent LA often, but I always go to Toast on 3rd Avenue right by the bed.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. But what you call them just got the James Beard Award for breakfast. Silver spoon. The serving spoon. Excuse me?

[Co-host/Guest]

Serving spoon. Hey, right there. God damn it. Service spoon. Good man. Yeah, I like the service.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't never been, but I'm. I'm gonna get there. Kevin non delusional cowboy fan. Hey, Ocho. ISO. This Saturday is my baby girl's eighth birthday. She's a swimmer, also a cheerleader. Can you guys wish Genesee a happy birthday? Absolutely, Kev. Thank you for watching Genesee.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Happy birthday.

[Joe Johnson]

Hopefully you ate. You turn into Katie Ledecky. And what does she do? And a cheerleader. I don't really know. Maybe you'll be a. What's the movie that. Gabrielle Union.

[Co-host/Guest]

Which one? Step up.

[Joe Johnson]

Bring it on. Bring it on. Yeah. So hopefully you'll cater, you know, Katie Ledecky and a Gabrielle Union and Bring it on. But congratulations. Happy birthday, babe. Yo. You're unbelievable. I know. Your dad is extremely, extremely proud of you. And we here at Nightcap, we're extremely proud of you as well. So happy 8th birthday and good luck in your swim meets and your cheerleading. Hey, Kev, thank you for the support, bro. Yes, Sir Kevin Boat knight. Ocho, I have the dumbest joke. When someone say they're cold, tell them to stand in the corner. It's 90 degrees.

[Co-host/Guest]

I like it. I like it. That's a good one. That's a good one.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. D7. 777. ISO. Nothing personal. All business. Now, you can't say March or Madness. As a matter of fact, call it November gladness. Cause they gonna be gone. You're gonna be gone the month. You finally be glad your team play again next season. Bear down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, everybody got jokes on his, man. It's just that. That kind of thing.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, you were popping it, Joe. You was popping it for a little minute by being no King ISO this and King ISO that. Now all of a sudden, in defeat,

[Chad Ochocinco]

you get out of me winning. They tired of me winning. I already know it. Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest]

What it is. Okay, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Drew. Jiu Jitsu.

[Co-host/Guest]

Woo.

[Joe Johnson]

Pig. Y' all kill it. Appreciate it for truly. Don't miss a pod. Rogan still number two. Pod ISO. You my favorite hog, bro. You killing it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Thank you, bro. Appreciate that.

[Joe Johnson]

Thank you for the support. You know, I mean, it's gonna stay a little bit, Joe. Go wake up in the morning and then realize, you know what? Damn,

[Chad Ochocinco]

we gonna. We gonna move on. We gonna move. I got. I got my hogs getting ready for the playoffs, so I still got something to look forward to.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, okay.

[Co-host/Guest]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Are we gonna go watch detail service. Go ahead, Ocho. What'd you say?

[Co-host/Guest]

I asked Joe if me and him are gonna go to a game.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all watch the Tank. Tyrese versus them guys can sing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I didn't either, man. I'm too busy watching game.

[Joe Johnson]

I was watching these games, too, but I will go back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They say put on the show, though, Tank.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, both them two can sing, boy, for sure.

[Joe Johnson]

Dennis Hadley. We need nightcap in Oklahoma. Bring ISO.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I know that ain't but a couple hours from where I went to college. Fayetteville. So.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, Joe, you know, I went to. I went to Langston.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You went to Langston?

[Co-host/Guest]

My freshman year.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Did you really?

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, I was there with Matthew Hatchet. You probably don't know. Matt, you remember Matthew Hatchet on.

[Joe Johnson]

I do.

[Co-host/Guest]

Played for the Vikings.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I was.

[Co-host/Guest]

I was the red first red shirt freshman. Matthew Hat was. Matthew Hatchet was on the team with me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Okay.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, my dumb ass got thrown out for fighting.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, man. What happened?

[Co-host/Guest]

I never forget. Hey, the president at the time was Dr. Ernest Holloway.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What happened, Ocho? What y' all fighting for?

[Co-host/Guest]

Somebody stole. Not my. Not my per diem. What you call a little money. You get your little money from your grant.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Your pale grant.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't that much, Joe, but I felt. I felt I was rich. I felt I was rich. And it was in my room. Only one person has access to the room. Unc where is my money that I know I put in the drawer? Where's my money? I never forget, man. I'm not sure where my big homie is. He was from Oakland. Big Steve. I don't know if you see this Big Steve, if you still with us, you know, God willing, I mean, reach out to your boy, man. It's been a very long time. Obviously, I haven't seen you since 1996. If you're still here with us, I mean, you know the story. We got into it, you know, we got the tus. We got the fighting, and I got in trouble. I had a. I had. I had a ring on my hand by accident and because how you have

[Chad Ochocinco]

a ring on your hand by accident, I mean.

[Co-host/Guest]

I mean, you're not supposed to be fighting like that. And he got a little cute look, cut man. Mr. Holloway, say, listen, we don't. We don't can, you know, condone this kind of behavior here at Links University. I mean, he sent me. I sent me right back to Miami. And that's how I bet.

[Joe Johnson]

So in other words, you lumped him up.

[Co-host/Guest]

I. I ain't say all that. I'm trying to be very respectful of the situation that happened.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't told the story. You don't put the man name out there.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, I'm putting the name out there because I. I would love to. I would love to connect again after so, so many damn years. You. Hey, Big Steve. Well, if you're out there, but I don't know if you still stay in the Bay Area or not, but wherever you at, man, please get at your boy. Man on Instagrams. It'd be good to catch up.

[Joe Johnson]

Say. Nah, like you say, too much time has passed.

[Chad Ochocinco]

30 years.

[Joe Johnson]

Like you said. Isaiah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There you go.

[Joe Johnson]

He said go.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, I would just. I would just tell you, you know my circumstances on why I bounced from.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, but hey, hey, hey. But if he stole from you, oo, he deserved it now. He deserved to get lumped up.

[Co-host/Guest]

I mean, I. I mean, you joke. We in college.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know. It's tight too.

[Co-host/Guest]

No, you know, hey, that. That money I need.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know it.

[Co-host/Guest]

I got to be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know it.

[Co-host/Guest]

Oh, man, I know it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You can tell when somebody get that pear green. They out eating every night. As soon as that money get low, you stay right back in the cafeteria. You must be. You must be down, ain't you?

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, I never forget, boy. Hey, you know who went to school with me too?

[Joe Johnson]

Who there?

[Co-host/Guest]

Roy Williams.

[Joe Johnson]

Sister, is this real cowboy or the receiver Cowboys.

[Co-host/Guest]

Ro Williams.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Co-host/Guest]

She went to Links with me, man. They had. They had a huge. Not st. A huge following of students that were from Chicago at the time.

[Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Co-host/Guest]

Oh, I wish I could connect with all them people, man. Good days, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Clifford Busby, Ocho, ISO put some respect on Illinois. Don't ever say we gonna lose Josari as Houston go online now, y' all put that thumb on them, bro. Y' all did that thing he did, bro. Drew Jiu Jitsu83 ISO. Pig love y'. All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Woo. Pig, man. Stay locked in, bro. You know you're a fan, man. You a fan of your team. Be a fan even when things ain't going so well, man, we locked in.

[Joe Johnson]

I see you.

[Co-host/Guest]

I feel you, Joe. I'm with you.

[Joe Johnson]

We good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

What about that man? Ocho up here? He got the crowd. The people annoyed me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He can't talk about that. I. I can't. I ain't. I couldn't control the outcome of this. When men, when I. When we doing something, I control that.

[Joe Johnson]

What about why you had to get

[Chad Ochocinco]

the belt bell put up right now? Okay, Ocho, it put up right now. Good.

[Joe Johnson]

Keep it up. What? At the crowd. He got the cr. He got the belt laid down there. He got the.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The crown.

[Joe Johnson]

Copped to the side, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It'll come out another time.

[Joe Johnson]

It's hard. It's hard.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It is. I told you. How heavy is the head that wears the crown? I told y'. All. See, I come with that, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I come with that. We good. 75 sec. My butt. ISO rolling with you tonight. I lost my bag. I need some back. I need that. My back. Jack Govall's great.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, man, he lost some money, huh? Yeah. It's all good, bro.

[Co-host/Guest]

He can get his money back, though.

[Joe Johnson]

How you gonna get it back tomorrow?

[Co-host/Guest]

Bet with Michigan. Bet with Michigan to win. Well, wait, hold on. I'm not allowed.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No. I'll tell you how he can get his money back. He bet me against you me whooping your ass. That's how he can get his money back. He put down on that parlay.

[Joe Johnson]

He put that parlay down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He gonna get his money back, I tell you.

[Co-host/Guest]

I tell you what. If he put that parlay down and he bet with you to beat me, well, he gonna be mad two times, he gonna be mad twice. Because one thing, when it comes to these. When it comes to these hands, right? You hear me? They register out there in Vegas for a reason they considered a lethal weapon for.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I told you, man. I don't give a damn what they registered At Listen, a knockout gonna be worth double. I' ma hook my man up. Hey, stay locked in, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Knockout pay double.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Knockout.

[Joe Johnson]

Double. Yeah, that's how we bet the fight. When you bet the fight, knockout play double.

[Co-host/Guest]

I like it. The funny thing that the knockout mostly happens like when somebody get tired, you know, and. Or you don't get last discipline with your defense. But Joe, all that stuff. Joe, I done perfected that crab. Joe. I'm so disciplined. You know, when it comes to combat sports, I don't even think you get a punch in. Honestly.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, what you got? Come on, bro, what you got? Rick Love.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, nightcap fam. Give us your Mount Rushmore in game dunkers in NBA history. Blake Griffin, Dr. J, Mike Kemp, Braun, Dawkins, Wilkins, others.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So you ain't got Vince Carter in there?

[Co-host/Guest]

No, Vince. Amari Stoudemire.

[Joe Johnson]

Vince. Sean Kemp definitely was an in game dunker. Ant man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, well,

[Joe Johnson]

I think you damn all but far as the in game dunker.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, what about DeAndre? That don't count because he's so damn tall.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, he caught a couple of bodies, but he ain't like. I think Dr. J got. I think Vince Carter, Sean Kemp, man, Sean Kemp was.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he was different. He was different.

[Joe Johnson]

And Doc in game. Cause Dominique was. Was double pumping back with.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There you go.

[Joe Johnson]

Was catching bodies.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, man, them dudes free, you know.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know who a guy that don't get credit for. And he's a better end game dunker than he would be in the dunk contest. LeBron.

[Co-host/Guest]

Oh, yeah, but he just do the same dunk, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, he gave him.

[Joe Johnson]

But I'm saying he done caught bodies with that same dunk.

[Co-host/Guest]

Oh, okay. I see what you mean. I'm. I'm thinking about. When we talk about end game Duncan. I'm thinking about creativity.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, ain't no creativity on dunk. Cause you just. You just bam it on people.

[Co-host/Guest]

Okay, I understand what you mean.

[Joe Johnson]

I understand. I mean, I mean yesterday. I mean, think about it. He got. How many people he got yesterday, man? A couple. He caught old boy off a euro step with the left hand.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's impressive. At 41, that's impressive.

[Joe Johnson]

Fell and then hit him with a layup. Got filed. To talk about both of you? Ch.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Sheldon Pope said ISO is hosting. Are you hosting any events in Atlanta for a full day? And are you inviting.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on. When is 404 day? And to answer your second part of your question, hell no, I ain't inviting. No joke.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, hey, listen. Hey, Joe, you Know what's gonna happen, Joe? I'm gonna. I'm gonna just show up and I'm gonna FaceTime y'. All. I'm in town. Hey, you seen the airport in Atlanta? Why ain't nobody trying to be sitting no lsa. It was tsa, man. People ain't coming.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They ain't getting paid. Ocho, what you want them to do?

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, I know, I know. I'm just saying. But you have to understand, you. You know, y' all were screaming at me for not coming to Magic City Night, and the goddamn line at TSA was six. It was a five hour wait.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You'd have been pissed off. You probably had to stay here a couple days.

[Joe Johnson]

That ain't got nothing to do with you. That one got nothing to do with you. That wasn't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ain't no line to get off the plane again, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

There ain't no line to get off the plane. We have to let you do that. HP 2012. Ocho, gotta put that 5900.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, man, it ain't going for you.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey, hey, hey. I'm gonna put it in there because you know, the Lord don't like noise now,

[Chad Ochocinco]

huh?

[Joe Johnson]

I like my buddy, too.

[Co-host/Guest]

I got you. I told you, I'm here for emergency situations.

[Joe Johnson]

Jordan the Goat 96. Jordan did nothing wrong. I t one salty old man. Keep crying. Bear down on your head Top ISO. Look, look, like I said, I mean, you know, you hear stories that say it did happen. They say it didn't happen. Whatever it is, whatever. Whatever is done, ain't no undoing. Ain't no undoing. It. It's like when, you know, somebody get popped for steroids or something and somebody else get the medal. Well, I don't miss my opportunity to get him my national anthem played at the top of the podium. You bringing me a medal of 10, 15, 20 years later. What the hell that is? What good is that?

[Co-host/Guest]

Nothing. None.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't get no heroes welcome when I come home. I didn't get to stand on top of the podium and hear my national anthem. You robbed me of that. That's what it's about. Yeah, I understand wanting to go medal, but, hey, the whole thing is the world to hear me stand up on that top step and to hear my. My national anthem being played. So I don't really know, even if they were to give him a gold medal, which they're not. I mean, we just speaking hypothetically here, there ain't nothing gonna undo what's been done. That many. We will take our reparations though that would. That. That'll help us. 828 style. What's up? Oh, Charlotte winning now. Cause they got my. My Duke boys down there teaching them how to win as a brotherhood. They changing the culture.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They are. Yeah, they are. They look good.

[Joe Johnson]

They playing their ass off.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They look good. They look like they got a bright future if they can keep them. Them core guys together who playing well obviously make the playoffs. Amen. Charlie gonna be in a good, good place.

[Joe Johnson]

Jtv. Ocho, love the show. Use the name jay. Question for ISO. Tracy McGrady said you called him late in his career. What do you think you would have done with T. Mac if you could have got played with him before the injury?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, I see I'm a sponge, bro, like any of them dudes, because I grew up idolizing, you know, the Jordans, the Penny Hardaway Penny, who I play with for four years. TMac, who I played with for a year. I just used to ask a lot of questions. I never challenged them dudes in one on ones Penny, tmac. I never challenged none of them. I just always asking information on how I could better my game, Uncle Ocho, you know what I mean?

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like, show me something. When they throwing that double and triple team on me, man, how can I still get open and give me a. You know what I mean, and get to it. So it's just a little stuff like that, bro. That having them type of vets around who done led the league in scoring, who done been super icons of the game. That man, just be a sponge. Ask a lot of questions. Just try to get some game from them. That's what I was trying to do.

[Joe Johnson]

Alan Fletcher said 23. We went the whole show. ISO wasn't supposed to say basketball.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All right, now, hey, look, look, look, look. Go ahead. Y' all had y' all fun tonight. Go ahead. Y' all fun, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, I told Ocho that, what, a couple of years ago his team was losing. I said, ocho, since your team lost, you can't say put or ball, man. Don't let the Bronco.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Or the Ravens. He come over here talking.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Co-host/Guest]

Bad.

[Joe Johnson]

That joker there, Ronnie M. Say, what's up, Nightcap? Pretend your GM building is starting lineup around your prime using players in history, but you can't say players that you've played with already. So, Joe, if you go pick a. You build a starting lineup, who you play with?

[Chad Ochocinco]

He said, I can't pick players that I play with.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All right, I'm going, I'm going. Jordan Cobe. I'm probably gonna put them at the one and the two. We're gonna be. We're gonna have big lineup. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna probably go with. Oh, I'm probably gonna go with Katie. Nah, I'll probably go. Yeah, I'll probably go Katie at 3. I'll go Mr. 4. I'll probably. Probably go with Big. I'll probably go Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan. And, you know, I got to have a. The big Aristotle. Yeah, give me Shaq, bro.

[Co-host/Guest]

That's a good. That's a good squad.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who you going?

[Joe Johnson]

Orlando. Shack was something to behold, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What you talking?

[Co-host/Guest]

Real five, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Co-host/Guest]

Who your five?

[Chad Ochocinco]

He going Braun.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm going Matt.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm going.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you brought it. I' ma go. Braun at the 3, Jordan at the 2, Magic at the point,

[Co-host/Guest]

Wimby at your foe, and then Jokic. Watch.

[Joe Johnson]

Nope, nope. I'm trying to win one game. Magic. Jordan, Braun, Duncan, Shaq.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know too many people who ain't gonna have Shaq in there. The dude was just filthy, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, if you. If you gotta say, like, you, like in today's game. Yeah, I would take Steph, Jordan, Braun, Yic and kd.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's a good. That's. That's. That's a nice file.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know. Ain't nobody beating us.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know about that,

[Joe Johnson]

boy. You know, but do you know how many who gonna cover stuff? Cause you're gonna have to come down there double, because I got. I got two great pack. I got LeBron and your.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who he gonna. Who's Steph gonna guard?

[Joe Johnson]

Don't worry about it. He gonna be back. He gonna be banging so many threes. Ain't got to guard nobody. Hey, the fridge found out who step go guard. Don't worry about it. Who go guarded by here?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you left. You left your boy Luko.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I got Jordan step. I got Jordan still. I get. I get. I get Luke. I get Luca. Luca, come out the bench for me. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. My partner and co host, Cincinnati great Ring of fame honoree, a former pro bowler and an all pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the third member of the big three. Y' all know him, University of Arkansas alum, seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks and recently nominated for the Basketball hall of Fame. ISO. Joe Johnson. Please, please, please. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by La Portier head over to la portierconac.com if you cannot find it in a state or city near you. It is a premium VSOP Cognac, the best tasting, smoothest VSOP Cognac on the market. Compare it against other cognacs and you'll see Chez by La Portier is the best. Please, please drink responsibly and stay safe. We want to thank you guys again tonight. Arizona, the number one seed in the west, move on after a 21 point victory over the Arkansas Razorback and gave Cal his worst loss in tournament history. Illinois beat Houston 65 55. Iowa defeated Nebraska 77 71. The clutch the most important basket of the night. Out of a timeout, Nebraska only had four players on the court. Breakaway layup and one really put the game out of reach and the closest game of the night. The Purdue Boilermakers take down the Texas Longhorn on a missed shot late in the ball game. But a tip put back gives them the victory. 79, 77 as they move on. Want to thank you guys for watching tonight. We'll see you back again tomorrow night after the game ends. I'm unk. He's Ocho, he's ISO. Thank you guys for joining us.

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