Nightcap Hour 2: Jalen Williams RETURNING For Thunder + Naz Ried WEIGHS IN on Timberwolves NEEDS + Mallard Creek Track & Field DISQUALIFIED

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2 – May 18, 2026

Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay's "Nightcap" features Shannon Sharpe, Joe Johnson, and an unnamed co-host (referred to as Ocho), breaking down major NBA playoff developments, the Timberwolves' ongoing challenges, the disqualification of Mallard Creek's boys' track team, and athlete health and discipline. From analysis of Jalen Williams’ return for the Thunder to viral soundbites from Naz Reid—and a lively detour into training and nutrition—the conversation weaves between sharp hoops insight, playful trash-talking, and candid stories of both professional and youth sports.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jalen Williams’ Return for OKC Thunder ([03:00]–[04:49])

• Injury Update: Jalen Williams is slated to return for the Thunder in Game 1 against the Spurs after missing games since the Suns sweep.
• Starting Lineup Debate:
  • Joe Johnson: "Yeah, no, I'm starting Jalen Williams. Hey, we ain't got time to be playing no more games here...we need that All Star." [04:02]
  • The team agrees Williams’s return is crucial, with A.J. Mitchell shifting to a bench role.
• OKC-Thunder vs. Spurs Series Preview:
  • Both teams identified for their high-pressure defensive schemes and fast conversion of turnovers into points.
  • Shannon: "You can be up by four, and the next thing you know, the Thunder, bro, you down 10..." [04:27]
  • Joe: Key to the series is which team controls turnovers and maximizes shot quality.

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2. Bigs Matchup – Chet, Hardenstein, and Spurs' Edge ([05:09]–[07:15])

• Frontcourt Duel:
  • Joe highlights the Chet vs. Wembanyama ("Wimby") battle: "I'm curious to see how dominant he'll be against Hartenstein and Chet. I know him and Chet has had they back and forth..." [05:09]
  • Spurs’ centers (Chet, Hardenstein) are praised for mobility, passing, and offensive versatility—contrasted with Rudy Gobert: "Rudy basically a fire hydrant because offensively he couldn't give you nothing." – Shannon [06:12]
• Depth Matters: Boston’s loss of Cornette and Al Horford noted as underappreciated blows to their frontcourt rotation.

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3. Picks for the Spurs–Thunder Series ([07:15]–[09:09])

• The hosts and co-host banter about their picks:
  • Joe: "I got okc, man." [07:27]
  • Ocho (Co-host): Initially hesitant, goes with the Spurs, citing Victor Wembanyama: “There's only one like him. And that's the only reason I'm picking the Spurs. Because of the alien.” [08:38]
  • Trash talk ensues about picking records (and luck!) from March Madness to the NBA playoffs.

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4. Timberwolves Discussion & Naz Reid’s Viral Comments ([10:18]–[16:14])

• Timberwolves’ Playoff Exits: The Wolves eliminated by OKC and the Spurs in consecutive years—prompting talk of necessary changes.
• Naz Reid’s Honesty:
  • Clip played: "I think just following...be less moody. I think that's just the name of the game for us, just being less moody and more selfless and just carrying ourselves with championship aspirations." [10:31]
• Who’s “Moody?” The crew debates whom Naz was referring to:
  • Shannon: "Who could he possibly be talking about?" [15:22]
  • Consensus falls on Julius Randle as a main culprit; discussion about internal personalities vs. public perception.
• Selfishness & Locker Room Dynamics:
  • Shannon draws a parallel: “If I say, man, Shannon, those other podcasts are doing really well...if we say, 'Be more selfless,' what do people deduce?” [17:14]
  • Hypothetical finger-pointing mirrors Timberwolves’ real chemistry issues.

Notable Quote:

• "If I point at you, it's three more pointing back at me, Joe." – Co-host (Ocho) [18:09]

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5. Rebuilding the Wolves – Who Stays, Who Goes? ([18:41]–[27:31])

• Wolves’ Roster Needs:
  • Rudy Gobert’s fit as a liability in matchups vs. OKC and Spurs is dissected.
  • Joe (about Ant Man): “Every time he show up, he kiki kiing...whether he leading them in scoring or whether he not. Yeah, and you can appreciate that, bro.” [20:11]
  • Naz Reid, McDaniels, and Ant Man identified as core pieces.
• Julius Randle’s Uncertain Future: Poor playoff performance (averaged 13 pts on 34% shooting) [26:54] leads to speculation he’ll be moved.
• Trade Scenarios:
  • Hub talk: “What if you give up Randle, Gobert, and Shannon for Giannis?” [29:47]
  • Discussion of trade targets like Miles Turner and Anthony Davis, but with caveats about availability and contractual realities.

Notable Segment:

• GM logic vs. fantasy: “Your next decision has to be your best decision...if it’s talking about improving and keeping up with them boys.” – Co-host (Ocho) [24:07]

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6. Athlete Nutrition & Discipline – Behind the Scenes Stories ([29:59]–[39:59])

• Diet & Longevity: The crew dives into personal stories about transitioning from unhealthy diets as young pros to clean eating for peak athletic performance.
  • Joe: “You don't know how bad you feel until you start feeling better, bro.” [37:17]
  • Shannon: Anecdotes about going from microwave meals and fast food to home cooking and structured diets after advice from family and veterans.
• Fun Challenge: Banter about getting on the cover of Men’s Health: "We want to bless the COVID!" – Co-host (Ocho) [39:41]
• Discipline & Accountability:
  • Joe: “I think more teams should operate like that. Because it'll hold guys accountable, bro...I think a lot of young cats think they can eat these zuzu and wham whams every day and come to the game and think you gonna be him.” [31:18]

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7. Mallard Creek Track & Field Disqualified: Sportsmanship Debate ([50:40]–[54:54])

• Incident Recap: Mallard Creek boys’ team was disqualified after a runner celebrated with a hand in the air before crossing the finish line, following an earlier warning.
  • Shannon: “After the guy won the 300 meters and he was celebrating, they say now, if anybody else do this, we’re going to disqualify you...it was the same guy.” [51:19]
• Is it Too Strict? Hosts question whether such rules drain excitement from the sport.
  • Shannon: Shares his own disqualification story: “I went and got him, and got him, up put the baton in his face. I told you, I’m the baddest shark.” [52:37]
  • Ocho: “You can’t show no personality...in track.” [52:57]
• Broader discussion about no-nonsense celebration rules in both track and football, with the pros and cons of entertainment vs. sportsmanship.

Notable Quote:

• “Don’t these people know that the celebrations are what people really want to see in the games?” – Joe Johnson [55:07]

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8. High School Track Phenoms & Evolution of the Sport ([55:37]–[64:18])

• Youth Athleticism:
  • Crew marvels at young sprinters running world-class times: high schoolers breaking 10 seconds in the 100m, girls' unprecedented 200m times.
    • Shannon: "Dude, 16 years old...dudes running 9.92 and 19.99 in the 100." [55:42]
    • Girls age 14 running sub-23 in the 200m discussed.
  • Analysis of advances—climate, new track surfaces, and carbon fiber shoes—possibly contributing to faster times.
• US vs. World Sprinting:
  • Recap of US dominance in relays and the recent rise of Botswana, Jamaica, and other nations.
  • Special shout-outs to historic figures and current stars.

Memorable Moment:

• Shannon’s awe: “I meant I could just watch track all day.” [61:13]

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Notable Memorable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “You can be up by four, and the next thing you know, the Thunder, bro, you down 10...” – Shannon Sharpe [04:27]
• “If I point at you, it’s three more pointing back at me, Joe.” – Co-host (Ocho) [18:09]
• “You don't know how bad you feel until you start feeling better, bro.” – Joe Johnson [37:17]
• “Don’t these people know that the celebrations are what people really want to see in the games?” – Joe Johnson [55:07]
• “Dude, 16 years old...dudes running 9.92 and 19.99 in the 100.” – Shannon Sharpe [55:42]
• “I meant I could just watch track all day.” – Shannon Sharpe [61:13]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [03:00] – NBA Playoff recap & Jalen Williams’s return
• [05:09] – Big man matchup: Chet vs. Wimby; Rudy Gobert’s drawbacks
• [07:15] – Thunder vs. Spurs picks and banter
• [10:18] – Naz Reid’s viral interview & Timberwolves’ internal issues
• [18:41] – Minnesota’s roster shakeup possibilities
• [29:59] – Athlete nutrition, personal stories, and accountability
• [39:41] – Playful challenge: "Men’s Health" magazine talk
• [50:40] – Mallard Creek DQ and sportsmanship debate
• [55:37] – Track phenoms and the state of youth sprinting

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Tone & Vibe

Consistent with Club Shay Shay, the episode is unfiltered, comedic, and full of energetic debate. Shannon, Joe, and Ocho mix expert analysis with playful ribbing and real talk about the pressures and realities of pro sports—on and off the court. From debate over Mitchell’s role to the fairness of track rules, every segment blends sports wisdom with refreshing authenticity and plenty of side-eye.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode delivers a full-court press of NBA playoff analysis (Thunder, Spurs, Wolves), rare insight into locker room dynamics and self-discipline, and a thoughtful examination of sportsmanship and youth athleticism. The hosts’ banter, personal stories, and playful challenges make it accessible and engaging even for those less familiar with the league’s details.

Whether you tune in for sports, life lessons, or laughs, this "Nightcap" episode captures what makes Club Shay Shay a must-listen for fans across generations.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, no, I'm starting Jalen Williams. Hey, we ain't got time to be playing no more games here. Hey, hey, A.J. mitchell. Hey, we appreciate. Hey, we appreciate that. And guess what? We gonna need that coming off the bench, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Appreciate you.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? But. Oh, yes, but we need that All Star. We need Jalen back in the lineup, bro, playing against these Spurs. Hey, man, they gonna have their hands full, man, they gonna have their hands full against the spurs team.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Spurs got to make sure they just. The thing is, with them, though, man, they just hit you with this wave, man. You can be. They can. You can be up by four, and the next thing you know, the Thunder, bro, you down 10, just that. Turn you over. And they turn those turnovers into points quick.

[Joe Johnson]

They both play like that, though. Unc and Ocho, they got similar styles, you know, it's gonna Be interesting to see who really takes care of the ball. Meaning limiting turnovers and able to get great shots every time. Because they both thrive off turning, making you turn the ball over and turning them turnovers into points.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

So. And Will Wimby back there, bro. I'm curious to see how dominant he'll be against Hardenstein and Chick. I know him and Chick has had they back and forth over the years.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And I. I think it's gonna be a hell of a battle. It's gonna be a hell of a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have to stay out of five trouble. Joe. He can't get in foul trouble like did against like what you call them because those bigs. See, he didn't have to worry about that big. He didn't have to worry about Rudy. Cause Rudy can't hurt him scoring. Chet can hurt your scoring.

[Joe Johnson]

And Hardenstein got a nice little float game to where he got a nice little touch shot. You know, he ain't gotta always dunk the ball. I think he a hell of a decision maker. He a lot better decision maker. He's a better decision maker than Rudy is with the ball in his hands, going in the dribble handoffs, getting into the teeth of the defense, spraying out for three. The chemistry that Hardenstein and check has meaning on that back line to where they throwing lives and getting each other. That's gonna come into play this whole entire.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And both of those guys are more active than Rudy.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, so that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the problem that you run into when you go out now you got seven footers that are active. Rudy, unfortunately, Rudy basically a fire hydrant

[Joe Johnson]

because offensively he couldn't give you nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now Cornette is played really well. I like Cornette, I like Courtney. I like his game. Joe. Look, he go, he gonna hustle, he gonna give you some rebounds, gonna give you some second chance points. Hey, he'll get. Hey, he'll give you a put back. He'll give you a lot. You know, he'll live threat.

[Joe Johnson]

Boston missed him too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all they do.

[Joe Johnson]

Boston needed Boston need. Boston missed him this year. Okay. I think they kind of took him for granted in the role that he played over the past few years because he was, he was great for them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But because you gave up him and you gave up Big Al.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like Quaid.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And Poisoner.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gave up four games, 16 or better.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. But hey, look, Poison has always hurt Ocho. But when he came back in them finals.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He won them at least two games in that finals. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, I. I can't remember who y' all said. I just want to make sure I take. I take a good mental note of it, though. This Spur Disperse Thunder series. Who y' all got? Now, let me make sure y' all on point.

[Joe Johnson]

I got okc, man.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Okay, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Who you got? Who you got, Ocho?

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Who you got?

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Oh, I ain't got nobody in this series.

[Joe Johnson]

You got. You got to pick somebody. We can't play like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Okay. With me. You know what? Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

My ass.

[Joe Johnson]

His janky ass. He probably.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, hey, y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, y'.

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[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Actually, y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Y' all kind of mad I didn't been right. All these. All these. All these months, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, listen, we on Nightcap, man. You have to pick a side, homeboy. You can't just be on.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

I've been picking a side since.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, pick one. Now. Me and I got okc. Who you got?

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

You know what? I don't want to be like y', all, so I'm going. But I'm going with the Spurs.

[Joe Johnson]

I already knew you're gonna go against the Grain.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, I'm gonna go with the Spurs. Hey, let me tell you something. Y' all been wrong. Y' all been wrong the whole. The whole time. So, I mean, but I know one thing. I know. I know the Nick. I know the nigga coming out the East. I know that. I know that. I know that for sure. Now, this game. I mean, this. This series between the spurs and the Goddamn and the Thunder, that's tough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

That. That's tough.

[Joe Johnson]

It is. I ain't gonna lie. It is. It's gonna be a tough game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I'm go. I'm gonna take. Who y' all didn't take.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

No, no, I'm. I'm taking. Hey, listen, I'm. There's one. There's one common denominator here that separates himself from everybody else. There's only one like him. And that's the only reason I'm picking the Spurs. Because of the alien.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, well, he. He. He got some guys who going to be guarding who can slide them puppies. Now, if he shoot over the top of them, they shake his hand, pat him on the back. Hey, good game.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

But it's a one page they need to take from. From the Timberwolves is you going to have to be physical as hell with him.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, you do know something, right? Every team I done pick so far from March Madness all the way through the NBA playoffs, everybody has won. You know, that right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you did not. No, man, you.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

I.

[Joe Johnson]

No, you did not.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yes, I did.

[Joe Johnson]

Now you didn't, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You had more teams to go farther than Joe and I, but you did not have the winner.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

What? Listen, the fact that I had more team go further than both of y'. All. That. What did that tell you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You picked the mask.

[Joe Johnson]

You got lucky, bro.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Okay, so what about the NBA playoffs? I guess this is luck too, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. You there picking. I mean, you, you picking. You know, you just picking with your eye closed. You ain't.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

No, no, no, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But we see now. But we see now. Guess what? They going to 78 teams. So guess what?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

College going to 78. So we. I'm gonna take it serious next year and beat the brakes up, dog.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Okay, all right, listen. Hey, y' all been taking the NBA, NBA playoff series. You see, I'm still with me.

[Joe Johnson]

I've been pick. I've been picking with my, I'm gonna be honest. I've been picking with my heart, Ojo. I, I, you know, I've been picking emotionally and I, I got, I'm taking it out now. I'm taking it out. We down to folk teams left. I'm going with who I feel the best team is.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

I got you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Wolves getting knocked out by OKC in San Antonio in the last two seasons. Nas Reed would ask about what they need to do to be able to catch those teams. His answers has gone viral. Let's take a listen to what Nas had to say.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Probably just moody because you look at both of those teams and they're playing for, you know, one another, they're excited to be on the floor or another, you know, they're a team where, you know, there's something like I mentioned before, so I think just following us, some of those aspects, I think, you know, I think we have more than enough talent. I think we have more than enough, you know, guys bringing to the table and compete at a high level, but just, you know, be less moody. I think that's just the name of the game for us, just being less moody and more selfless and just carrying ourselves with championship aspirations like we've done before, just having that as a cherry on top.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

What does it mean? What do you say? Moody?

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

I can't hear nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He said less moody and less selfless. So he want us to be. He want us to be selfless if he wants to be less moody. Now let's not jump to conclusions because I don't want my knee bad, so I don't want to jump it into it again. But who could he possibly be talking about? Because the only reason that's going viral is y' all know who. Y' all know.

[Joe Johnson]

Talk to me.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah, talk. Hey, talk to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You talking about rooted? You talking about one or two players?

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Who is moving?

[Joe Johnson]

My Ant man or Drew?

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

No, Ant man ain't moody.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Drew Randall. Yeah, I can kind of see that.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah, Ant man ain't moving.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, so if I had, I

[Shannon Sharpe]

can see that somebody say, oh, if the CIA interrogate me and they don't water bore me like ten times. Julius. Julius. Is Julius talking about Julius?

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, but see, hey, you know, the thing is, especially when he says things like that, those are the things that we can't see. We can't see when he's moody, you know, he talk about stuff that's internal, that we can't even see. Obviously, when the game of basketball is going on, the camera's pan to you. When you're on the court, on the court, obviously you play in the game, so you don't get to see exactly what he's talking about. He telling us what's going on internally.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yet again, letting the cat out the bag.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What the man, as you say, with the wolves getting knocked out okc, but okay, seeing San Antonio the last two season, what can you do to keep up with those guys? He said those guys play selfless. Those guys play like they're having fun playing for one another. So if I say, man, Shannon, those other podcasts are doing really, really well with the combo, what do you think you guys need to do in order to catch up? Well, I think we could, you know, have fun when we on air. I think, you know.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Be a little less selfless, selfish. What do you think people are going to deduce from that?

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah, Joe, the problem.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What? Damn, damn, Damn.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I couldn't think of nothing else to say, Joe. Crazy, yo.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

You. Hey, you ain't want to pay my 500, Joe. Yeah, you definitely the problem, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn, that's wild.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, look.

[Joe Johnson]

See that what we talking about, pointing the finger. That what we talking about right there.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, hey, Joe, I never point the finger because if I point at you, it's three more point back at me, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but you did just point the thing at me, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Three of us. And you said, yeah, you know, hey, listen, we just.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

You. This is just a hypothetical. This ain't real. We don't have problems like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, hypothetically, it would be Jodo if we speaking hypothetically, but hypothetically. Do it. Ocho bad.

[Joe Johnson]

They know he a little. Throw it out. Hey, listen, why y' all playing, though? Minnesota got some. They gotta make some changes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're gonna have to.

[Joe Johnson]

They got to make some changes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, I'm glad you said that.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Now, when we talk about changes, Joe. And what kind of change are we talking?

[Joe Johnson]

I think, man, listen. You gonna have to listen to a little bit of everything, obviously, you know, you. They. They got some great pieces over there that I think some teams will want, you know, in exchange for, you know, some pretty good. Some. A pretty good player or two.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But they.

[Joe Johnson]

They. It's. It's something they missing. Obviously, having Rudy at the five, you know, it kind of. It kind of hurts. You playing against here. The up echelon teams, meaning the spurs and OKC Ocho. You can't compete with them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

So, so, so, so, so you letting Rudy go just because of two teams, you can't compete.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How am I supposed to advance if I can't? If my guy can't outplay those guys, and I'm not talking about every game, but he got to win a game.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

But this is. This is the funny thing about it, right? You don't like Rudy because you want to change your personnel based on two teams that you can't compete with. Because Rudy basically a liability on the offense end and defensively can't do nothing but goddamn wimy. Who the hell else can?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, go get. Go get Giannis. I bet you he can. I bet he can make a difference

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

oo Giannis in Minnesota.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I think the thing is, look, we know ant man's personality. I don't know. And is the only guy, I think in the NBA that come to work and don't. Ain't never mad.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Every time he show up, he Kiki kiing.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Well, hey, look, whether he leading them in school or whether he. For everybody, whether he not. Yeah. And you can appreciate that, bro. You can appreciate that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think for me personally, I think Naz reed, I think McDaniels, I think Ant man, and then everybody else, if you want, hey, I'm open for business. You.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, I think.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But if somebody make me an offer, Joe, and I have to package him to get a player that I really think can help us get over the hump, I gotta do it.

[Joe Johnson]

I agree, I agree. I don't think they gonna be able to keep IO. I think he a free agent too, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

If he. Yeah, he gonna be gone.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I think you do sign and trade some way somehow, to where you can. You can get that missing piece that can help y' all get over the top.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I just.

[Joe Johnson]

And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And if I'm looking at. And if I'm looking at Julius in this series, it makes it real easy, Joe. It makes it real easy to move on even. Even prior to this knowing. And like I said, now we're speculating chat. We're speculating Rudy. Rudy is not enough. He can't never be upset. But with that being said, with the way he played. That man gave us three points. Yeah, that man gave us three points. He probably averaged like 10 points in this series. Nah, hell no.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't even know if he averaged 10. I think the disheartening thing with Rudy is he was so great in the Denver series, playing against Jokic. And, hell, you just meet a different animal in Wimby because he ain't. He ain't bound to the floor. Hell, he. He too agile. He too mobile. You know, at his height, there's nothing you can do with him, bro. You gotta have good feet just to keep in front of him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it's just tough. It's just tough because some games, you see Randall, he'll give you 26 and 1280. And then some games, it's like, bro. Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. What you looking. How many years?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, Julius. Julius got one year in a player option. How much is the player option? Oh, he picking that up.

[Joe Johnson]

How much?

[Shannon Sharpe]

5.8. He ain't getting that.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah. Not unless somebody. Not unless the team tell them they gonna give him a new deal if he opt out. Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you'd be like James Harden. They don't do nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no. But I just think, me personally, guys, I gotta do something. Ocho. To try to catch up. I got to. I got no choice. Those guys are young. Yeah, those guys are young. Look at Wimby. Look at Castle. Look at Harper. Those guys are young. Champagne vassal, those guys. Hold on. The old guy in OKC is Caruso. All them guys, 27 or younger.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what I'm supposed to do is just wait till they get old. We gonna get old before they do? Oh, hell, no. I got. I gotta change this up. I got you back. I got no choice.

[Joe Johnson]

Facts. You have to. You have to make some new additions to your squad, bro, and hopefully it makes you a better team because you can't continue to come back now. I know. I. I think. How many years Rudy got left on his deal? I think he got a big. I think he owned a big deal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He can't have no than, like, one in a player option.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know if you're gonna be able to move none of them dudes. For real.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. That's the one thing you can't do, though. You heard what you said.

[Joe Johnson]

What's that?

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

You hope. Whatever. Whatever choice you decide to make from this point on, knowing that you have to find a way to hang with the goddamn Thunder and hang with the Spurs. You can't hope. Your next decision has to be your best decision. If it's talking about improving and keeping

[Joe Johnson]

up with them boys, I agree. I. I think you got. But look, you got great pieces in Ant Man McDaniels. Who else you got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ant Man McDaniel. You got. That's basically it the old guys that I. That. That I. I like. I gotta have the. Must have. I like Terence Shannon.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I really do. Yeah, I do, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like the Soo. But you're probably not, because he probably played himself into a bigger contract. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I got a question. Do you think they bring Mike Conley back?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I mean, look, he ain't gonna cost you no money. I mean, I can bring him back on a vet minimum. Yeah, he great for the locker room. Great leader. Keep everybody. He can knock down some big shots. It ain't gonna cost no money. And Mike going. He gonna be going into what year? 19.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause I think Mike, you know, you gonna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mike came in in 2007. 2008. He came in with KD. So KD came in what year? 2007. So he came in with KD because he was in the draft with KD and Greg Oden.

[Joe Johnson]

Greg Oden, yeah. They both played Ohio State. Yeah, but without. Hey, look, but you ain't gonna have Devon Chenzo the whole year. He. He out the whole year. You know, I think some. I, Man, I. I ain't gonna lie. I hope they keep IO to some move. I hope they keep him. I like him, I think, you know, because somebody gonna pay him some big money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had. He played his best at the. At the right time in the postseason. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

The opportunity came. He flourished in it, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so that's the thing. I mean, they. Look, they. What did you. What did you use Randall average in this series? Because I know he shot less than 40%. He had to have. If we shot 40, it was 40.7.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I. I got them some way somehow, putting the. Niles Reed and that starting lineup. Come next season, somebody gonna be gone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I think you. You gotta try something, because we. We tried this formula the last two years, and the product that we're trying to make, it did. It didn't sell. Now, it doesn't do us any. It doesn't do us any good that we're in the same conference with teams that are younger than us and they've knocked us out every year. He shot 34 from the floor, Joe, in the series.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What the average points? Come on now, 34. You shooting 34 as a power forward.

[Joe Johnson]

And they played a lot through him early in this series, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He averaged 13 points, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. Yeah, they gonna. They. They gonna make some changes, fellas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think they gonna start with him.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you probably right.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All things being equal, hell, you know who might be okay for them? He could block, shot and knock down threes and. And he ain't gonna be in. He ain't gonna be in Milwaukee. Miles Turner. Hey, but man don't do nothing. Cause he gonna put your business in the street.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Nah, we. Yeah, we don't. We.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, come on now.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

We don't need. No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was the accident. He didn't mean to say.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

That ain't. No, actually, no. He meant.

[Joe Johnson]

He didn't mean to say what about

[Shannon Sharpe]

y' all is not coming.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Don't come over there. Don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't come over there and be late. Yeah, he did.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah. Leave Miles right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But my thing is, I'm trying to figure out how did they think they would be better off with you than Cat? That's what I need somebody to help

[Joe Johnson]

me understand Joe, because I think Cat had. Fell in love so much with that jump shot Uncle Ocho there, he wasn't doing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

He wasn't giving them, you know, the pro. The productivity that they would like from him.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, at that five spot, you know, or. Or. Well, he was playing the four next to. Next to Rudy. Yeah, he fell in love with that jumper. He said, we got Rudy down there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't going in the back of

[Joe Johnson]

Miles Turner and Rudy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Rudy on the defensive end with Jane Daniels, you wing.

[Joe Johnson]

I can. I can see something. I can see a little something. Something. I can see a little something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I keep knobs on my bench because I know he gonna give me somewhere between 16 to 18 off the bench. I need that.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah, I need that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, have to figure out something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Honestly, Joe. Oo, I would consider it, right?

[Joe Johnson]

But I think.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think they're going to move on from Jew. I do. I think they're going to move on from Drew Randall if. If they can.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, hey, listen, listen. As bad as he played this series, whatever move the Wolves make next, their next move got to be their best move. You got to be the best move. And whoever you go to replace Julius Randle has to be that much better. You have to be that much better.

[Joe Johnson]

What if you give up Randall? Go Bear and Shannon.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

For who? God damn, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

For Giannis.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think they're gonna want draft compensation, too. I think they're gonna want draft compensation, Joe. Now, I tell you who they. Hey, what if they put AD Next

[Joe Johnson]

to Rudy and Ant man, you keep holling this ad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like ad the man can give you 20 and 10. He can play. He can give you two, three blocks a game. He can stretch the floor, got a nice mid. He can post he can shoot the three. He is 75 to 80% free throw shooter. I'm just. I'm just. Oh, I'm just trying. I'm just trying to make. I'm trying to play general manager, that's all. Joe.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, hey, Joe. I don't know what kind of GME is because he only gonna give us 20, 30 games a season. That's not gonna help us in the postseason. The best ability is availability never available.

[Joe Johnson]

If we get 80, if the Timberwolves get AD then they got to go visit him at least two, three times a month. We got to go visit him two, three times a month, make sure he doing what he supposed to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We gotta make.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Put that P R on the H. We gotta keep your body fat down.

[Joe Johnson]

Weight, body fat. We got to check that every. Every Friday. Make good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, look, man, I don't think that's a. I think more teams should operate like that. Meaning. Because it'll hold guys accountable, bro. You won't just be out here pigging out, eating whatever. You know what I mean? You. I think. I think what. What a lot of cats don't realize, especially the young ones coming into the NBA, like, how important it is to really take care of your body. What you eat, what you putting inside your body, bro. It like the things that you do outside of being on the court, that's going to determine how effective you are when you on the court. And I think a lot of young cats think that they can continue to eat these zuzu and wham whams every damn day and come to the game and think you gonna be him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It ain't.

[Joe Johnson]

It ain't don't work like Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You realize a lot of young people think the game, that's the only thing the game, but it's so much more to play in the game. The game. Ain't. Ain't. Ain't one at the game. It's. It's the lead up is Monday, Tuesday,

[Joe Johnson]

when you're not playing in the preparation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We only got. We got to be ready on Sunday. You'll win the game on Monday through Friday.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's what people don't understand, man. He would. No, no, no, no. I need to know. I didn't know your preparation. I need to know your study habits. I need to know.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Training. What did you do? Did you get in there? You get your lift in, you get your cold tub, you get your massage, you get your body right, you just don't show up right.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't Bro, the mad man just goes a lot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That goes. What he got to do before he get on that ride? What he do? He sort the mail. He just don't go all the right. He'll just dump all the mail in the box. Don't judge. Just like, damn.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he sort it all out. Know the route that he gonna take. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And that's how you. That's how you. But you. When you young, Joe, when you young and you've had success doing it that way, it takes a special type of person when you've had success doing it one way and say, you know what? I still believe I can be better. Let me try this.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, a lot goes into, obviously, the team you go to and the damn veteran guys that you have on that team, bro. Guys who can really show you the ropes when they see you doing wrong or they see you. I'm gonna tell you, God called me out at the grocery store when I first got here to Atlanta. He was. He seen the basket I had, like, he's seen all the food I had. He was like, man, how. How the hell you think you're gonna go out and play and compete eating all this. This bull job? You know what I mean? And so you don't really take all that into consideration, bro, until somebody really break it down for you. Hey, man, you got this high performance sports car and you putting this damn regular gas in it. It's gonna break down on your partner.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You right, Joe? Yeah, I was the same way, man. I had all that minute, made fruit juice. Hey, man, hey, I'm doing. Hey, I'm doing. I ain't have no pots and pans. Hey, my girl.

[Joe Johnson]

I had a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My girl cook for me. Sharing rest of soul. She like, boo, you ain't got no pots, no pants? I said, nope. None.

[Joe Johnson]

Not one. You got. Hey, hey, you ain't got nothing but microwave behind pockets and pieces and that you warming up in, man, please. That ain't gonna get it, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And when I first moved to Denver, I could walk out my apartment and walk to a 711 and I'm going to get them. Hey, Joe, you remember you growing up in the side? You get them sandwiches that you pop in the microwave. I go get warm me up one of them sandwiches, get me some chips and a soda. Yeah, right back to the apartment. I'm good for the night.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

I wanna. I wanna chime in so bad, but I can't.

[Joe Johnson]

You can't relate.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

I can't, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Eating them.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Mickey D. Hey, hey, Joe, I'm so bad, man. I was, man, I don't know. What if it wasn't broke, don't fix it. I mean, the Bengals, even the Bengals had a nutritionist come in and, you know, she left a letter in. In Malacca, you know, you know, come, let's meet. Let's. Let's meet at a certain time and see what we can do to. To help you out. And I'm. Help me out.

[Joe Johnson]

Help me do what say you good man, Joe.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

I'm man, eating McDonald's in the morning. Going out there. I'm going four for 160, Joe. Two TDs out there celebrating. Hey, hey. Sauc in the end zone.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Cheeseburgers.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

What you f. To help me with?

[Joe Johnson]

And I think the.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

The lucky thing for me, Joe, and I know I joke around about my diet and my nutrition. The lucky thing for me is the fact that I was able to eat the way I ate, but I never got hurt, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hurt.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

I guarantee you. I guarantee you I would have changed the way I was eating because that's the reason I got hurt.

[Joe Johnson]

You were lucky one Ojo.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah. Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe, me, I'm like, you know what? I was like, man, My cousin, he used to be a bodybuilder, and he's like, man, he's a. Cuz. I told him what I was eating. He said, cuz, yeah, you ever thought what you look like if you were to eat, like, don't eat all that stuff all the time?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, like, nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's like, see it, cuz. So he was. He lived in San Antonio. I said, you know what, cuz? I'm come out there. I'm gonna come out there, I'm gonna work out, which I went out there for a week. He used to be a power lifter, so he was. He was. I mean, he could deadlift. He actually. He had the world record for like 10 minutes. He deadlift at 220 pounds, 800. 4 pounds, 700 bench, over 500 at 220. So I went out there, watched how he ate. His. His wife cooking. I said, okay, I will see that, man. I got back home, I started eating chicken breasts. I started eating rice. I started eating veggies. I started eating like oatmeal and. And healthy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you don't know. You don't know how bad you feel until you start feeling better, bro. Until you start really honing in on that diet, eating right. Start shredding that fat, and you start. You start to see the ripple. Yeah, man, that's what keep you Going when you start. Hey, hey, hey. Once you can look in the mirror and you say, hold on. Last week, I ain't really look like this, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Every week, that's me.

[Joe Johnson]

Every week you start to get a little chiseled up.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

That's me. Hey, hey, Joe, wait till y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, all they told was like, well, damn, you know, all you take, whatever. Like, well, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go back over there. Let me see.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no. What? I'm shy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. It'll make it go a little.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, man, you start. Hey, I'm talking about, man, me. I mean, I eat right when I was young, I get some cardio in. I start feathering my low back. Get that Christmas tree I'm starting myself. Start feathering. Oh, yeah, yeah. I easily get down to five.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, nice hard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lord have mercy. Lord have mercy.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

I ain't got. Hey, hey, Joe. Uncle, I ain't got to that point yet. Why? You hear me? You know, I'm waiting. I'm waiting on the summer. You know, when I. When I pop out this summer, Joe, it's gonna be. Gonna be crazy, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Oh, yeah, boy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All right.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, we had to, we had to get. To get on Men's Health or something. Get. Get to get the COVID of me.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey. Oh, that's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. You know what, Joe? Now you give me something to shoot for. Joe, you give me a. Now, you know, I. I'm very, I'm both very gold driven.

[Joe Johnson]

Need something like make you lock in.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me, let me see. Who, hey, who, who's the owner of Men's Health?

[Joe Johnson]

Don't start me to lie. Come on, man, tell them. Give us a cover, brother. You know, I mean, show them, show them how to do it.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Okay. A Men's Health magazine is owned by the global media company called Hurst. Hey, Hearst, this is, this is, this is Nightcap, obviously my co. Host, Joe Johnson and, and Shannon Sharp. We would like to, to, to. To be, you know, blessed.

[Joe Johnson]

We want to bless the COVID Yeah,

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

we want to bless the COVID You

[Joe Johnson]

know, there we go.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

We are hard. Three hard working, you know, older men.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, right. You know, Carbo.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. All I need is two weeks, boy, because I'm.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm more.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

I'm already. I'm already in like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, two weeks. Get me like get about £10 off it, but I'm talking about to cut it up. I probably need about eight. I need about eight to 10 weeks to cut it up. Okay. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, tell. Tell them set us up, man. We want the. The July to August issue.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Matter of fact, first of all, they already got the issue. They already got the issue shot all the way to February next year. So you got to hope for the summer of next year.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't think they. You don't think they can. We can cut the line?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They squish Joe. I promise you. That's how maga. That's how magazines work. Cause I shot. I'm trying to think,

[Joe Johnson]

bro. That'll be hard, boy.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, don't underestimate the power of the big three. Now. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't. It don't matter who they got. But one thing about we. We grace the COVID What are you talking about? Moving the needle.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know I'm shy. Yo, yo. Hey, yeah, you know. Hey, I don't want the type of problems no more, man. I don't want them type of problems.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you can play the shy guy. Me and Osho got you. You can play the shy guy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, don't play with me.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, hey. Who was shy guy in the Five Heartbeats? Was it Duck?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah,

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

I forgot his name.

[Joe Johnson]

Singing Quiet boy. Quiet boy.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to be quiet, but go ahead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm telling you. Oo. I don't walk around my house naked.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

I got you. But we gonna be on this cover.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I. You know, you know, I get it, you know.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. I'mma be baby old up Joe. You hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They already do all that. You only do all that. Oh, you already do all.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, I. I want you to be able to see every cut, every. Every definition. What?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. I'm like. Hey, un. I'm like you, boy. You give me something like that to shoot for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. I lock. I can lock in right now. Hey, I lock in for two or three days. I like.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I show you know what? Them cane. That cane's four piece. Let me go get that. Hey, let me get the extra fries with no coleslaw.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said we'll do a special Nightcap magazine.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, you know what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Come out with our own, huh? Hey, what I'm talking about.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Okay, that. That'll work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, man, I just. Man, I thought every time I tried to get out. I just want to live my life. I just want to live. What you mean?

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Well, hold on, Unc. If you want to live Your life. I done told you what you need to start doing.

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The man ruined the conversation, man.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

You know what? I ain't even say nothing. I'm just saying, you talking about you want to live your life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How does that help Joe and I reach our goals? By doing what you suggest.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

I mean, not doing it how it's going to help you reach your goal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Easy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, it give you some extra testosterone or something. Ojo.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yes, Joe. Yes, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

You go along with any damn thing I say at this point?

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah, Joe, I just. Yeah, I just heard testosterone. Yeah. So whatever you talking about.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

you know what? Well, see, I'd be traveling so much, man, it'd be hard for me to get a work out of here, man. I'd be on that road. We having to get up. We be getting in late. Jordan have to get up early. I got a podcast. I got a podcast every day. What's the day? Yeah, we got two. I got two. I'm shooting two pods every day till Friday.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, just give us a day, bro. Man, oo. Gonna come to Vegas. We'll come to Vegas and do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We gotta get. We gotta get past these. What you call them? What, These NBA playoffs so we don't have to do all these days doing six, seven days straight.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's kind of. It's kind of winding down now. We down to four teams.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But guess what?

[Joe Johnson]

You know, the games are Monday, Tuesday,

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep. All the way to the final. Yeah, absolutely right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So unless somebody. Unless somebody. Sweet.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. So I don't think it's gonna be no sweeps, though, either.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I think. I think, you know, we gonna get it. We got. Hey, I tell you what, you know, y' all talk about doing something, if y' all talking about really doing it. Well, I do it.

[Joe Johnson]

And listen, don't threaten me with no good time, y'. All. Let me know what's happening.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This thing be looking like onions, then onion skin. Hey, y', all. Y'.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all already know how I can get. I get it.

[Joe Johnson]

I can get it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Get it, but get it, get it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if y' all serious, they let me know. Y' all serious. We gonna do it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we serious, man. We serious.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho. You serious?

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

You know good and well I'm in the gym every morning, huh? Every morning, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you do realize in order to get the look that you going for, you can't get it. Yeah, McDonald's.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Oh, no, listen, I ain't got no problem, you know, having a nice little. A nice little strict diet just to reach a certain goal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Okay. Ain't nothing wrong with that, man. Hey, three, three, three, four. Yeah, three, four meals a day. Maybe five small ones.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

You know, rice, pasta, you know, to keep. Keep that weight on me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I'm good.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

You know, I got one thing I do have. I got discipline. Well, depending on what we're doing. Yeah, I had to. Had to throw that out there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, Well, I guess I have

[Shannon Sharpe]

to go up there and after the show I have to work on like. Okay, Shelly, this is what you need to do.

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Yeah, Malachi Boys track and field was disqualified for an unsportsmanlike conduct after winning a 4x4 relay in the final event that would have given them the North Carolina state championship. Had the results stayed, the Mavericks would have won the team state title. Instead, they remained in second place. Watch this, Joe, and tell me what you think.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

All he did was put his hand up, man.

[Joe Johnson]

And they. And they gave. They disqualified him.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

But it should do her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Wow. Hold on. According to the North CarolinaRunners.com earlier in that day, Nyan Brown set the 300 meter hurdle state record. He flexed to the photographers beyond the finish line and a celebration that received a warning for taunting from the officials. With the hat, with his hand going up prior to the finish line in the 4 by 4. It was the second violation of taunting and led to the disqualification. So even that. So after the Guy won the 300 meters and he was celebrating, they say now, if anybody else do this, we're going to disqualify you. So they had given them a warning. It was Ojo man, Joe Ocho. It was the same guy.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh. Oh, I. I ain't never ran tracking that, but damn, I can't.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

I seen Hussein Boat when he run.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

He got his. You know, I mean, the man put up this. Come on, bro.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, hey. It's been like that for a long time too, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Taking the celebrations out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, because I mean, I'm disqualified doing that because I put the baton in somebody's face.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah, you can't. You can't do that, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I can see if the man looked to the man, to the man he racing against and did a. A bye bye or something to him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I did that.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on fell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I did. I did. I did what you said. Oo. And the guy had to leave. I went and got me had like a 15 yard lead on me. I went and got him and got him up, put the baton in his face. I told you, I'm the baddest shark. It took off again and come back. Coach come say sucker, you get us disqualified. Don't ever do that again.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, Joe, you can't show. You can't show no personality. You can't express yourself the way you want to like you do in basketball. Like you do. You know you're doing football. None of that. None of that. It's frowned upon in track.

[Joe Johnson]

Why is that, though?

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, I don't know. That's a good one. My daughter. My daughter got in trouble like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Be faster. Keep me from catching you.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, I can see unsportsmanlike conduct. Like I just said, if you look at your opponent, you wave at him. But, bro, I run. I do like this. I put a hand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm in front of you, Joe.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, all he did, he did the Shador. That's all he did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It wasn't like he. He was like, beside him and did that. I'm in front of you.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He don't even know what I did.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Right. Hey, that's crazy. But the rules are. The rules.

[Joe Johnson]

Are the rules. Damn. That.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The bad that broke the rules all the time.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Well, Joe, I. I ain't follow the rules. See, it's different. It's different now. When I think about the NFL, them rules, them was garbage. I ain't like the rules. So I wasn't following him. Not track. That's a different ball game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was. Followed the rules. Hold on. They.

[Joe Johnson]

They kind of took a little bit of celebration away in football, didn't they?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they let them try and celebrate with your teammate because if. When Ocho was in, you had to celebrate by yourself. If somebody came in, it was called a team celebration. They threw a flag. Now they'll let the team celebrate. You just can't have props or it can't be excessively long, so you can't use props. Pac Man Jones was really the first one that I saw do the Fireman's, where he ran to the goal post and slid down. And then AB did it. Couple of guys did it. Randy Moss. Randy Moss peed on the goal post. Somebody peed on the pylon. They're gonna find you for that. But as long as, like.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, as long as you don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do the throat gesture, you do something like, you know, you can't do the six shooter anymore. Stuff like that. Anything that's sexual in nature can't be doing no gyration. Not even one, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't you. Don't, don't. Don't these people know that the celebrations are what people really want to see it in the games, whether it's football, track, basketball, whatever the case may be. It's just like the John Moran situation, obviously, because he, you know, got caught with the guns.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He couldn't.

[Joe Johnson]

He can't do the. You know what I mean? It's like damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, bro.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

They. No, no, no individualism, no personality.

[Joe Johnson]

That's crazy.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, UNC boy, you seen some of them times for the 100 and the 200 in Texas?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look here, man. Dude, dude. 16 years old, dude. Red all conditioned dudes running 9, 92 and 19 8. 199 and 100.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

45 in the folds, man. Back in the hot. When I was in school, you ran a 48, 47.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you move. It was. I ain't hear nobody. The only person I ever heard running 46 was Antonio McKay. He went. I mean he was on the Olympic team. Yeah, he ran 46 flat. But this was back in like 82. So. Yeah, but he goes on to be on the Olympic team, so obviously he could run. Roger Kingdom is from Georgia. He won a two time Olympic gold medal 84 to 88. But these kids running 40 folds the kid up in Baltimore, Quincy.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Red 4410.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you see these? The girls, the girl. What they were the women in high school. Girl 14 running 22, 7 14.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

You ain't see the 16 year old just ran the nine, nine. I think it was 995. And his first name Dylan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In high school. Yeah. Hey, did you see the white kid sliding? White kid ran 202. He going. I think Mississippi State Ocho. He was sliding.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Getting up through there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

200. Texas got. Look here it's hot. You go look at where the climate is like really good, but like 80% of the time.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Texas, Florida, Florida, California, Georgia. You got sliders. Them kids running. Them kids running 30, running 39 in the 4 in the. In the 4x1. Kids running 309, 310 in the 4x4.

[Joe Johnson]

That's crazy kicking D. Yes,

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damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

AKA but we got to get on it because I don't know if y' all saw, but hey, that world. The Botswanans, that four by four, they got the third. Because for the longest time up until Paris, what was that?

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Paris.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think they're in Paris. The Americans had the fast. The Americans had the fastest time. If you take all the Americans out prior to Paris, the time that the Americans ran in 68 would still be the world record if the Americans didn't run. So if you take out all the American time prior to what the book Swansons did, that time that they ran back then would be still be the world record. But these bolts want us. They got second and then they came back and they got their revenge at the world championships. And what they just ran 254, 47. They got some sliders. They got them bad. And Tobogo. And Tobogo, he might be their third best 400 guy. And he can go for. And he can go sub 44. Yeah, we got to be on that behavior. We gotta be on our best behavior. Because they coming. They coming, Joe. Now, the women. I ain't really concerned about the women. Cause we got that. She. Hey, she better. You know, she. Hey, you know, she got a little. You know, her and her husband say, hey, it's an off year. Let's go ahead and get this out the way. Cause for the next two years, I'm all business. I'm all business. I want this world record. I want this 400 world record that they say, what? Nobody's gonna touch it. And nobody's come close until she did. I mean, nobody's been close. As a matter of fact, no woman had ever even gone from that time. Krachalova, the Czechoslovakian, she went 47.99. And then Coke went 47.60. Nobody had ever been under 48 again. And then we go to the world championship, and we get two. We get Sid. Go 47, 78. We get Paulino, go up, and then we got Nasser. NASA ran like 48, 20. She gonna get that world record. You don't get it. And I wish they would have accommodated the schedule because we've seen people do the 2 4. Michael did the 2 4. Actually, Valerie Briscoe Hooks was the first to do the 2 4. She did it in 84. And then you got Marie Jose Perrette. She did it in 96 to 42. And she's the only woman to go back to back in the 4. So she did a 96 in 2000, but said to do a 4 4. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. That might be. That might be one of the greatest feats that you'll ever see. I mean, a Cuban did in 76. He won the 4 8. And he did. I think he broke. I think he did the world record in the. In the eight. But man said, take your time. Give birth to that little sprinter. But we got some sliders like girl been sliding down. Mj. I want to see what mj when she opened up, see what MJ got cooking. Yeah, but I meant I could just watch track all day.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Hey, yeah, he saw my right beside my side.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Russell, ready 12, 25. She got J. Right conditions, right people in the track. It's got to be something with the track. It's got to be Ocho. Ain't no way these people running. These God dang old times. I'm talking about these guys, these people opening the seasons.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Moving.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, it's got to be. Hey, look, I understand this Mondo and this technology and all this and all. Hey. Cause we just saw a. A Sawa, the guy from. I think he's from Kenya. They just brought the wood. Go 150, go sub. Two hours in the marathon, man. They gotta be. Look, and I understand the shoes because they got these carbon fiber shoes. They got these. Hey, but these. This track, man, these. They booking. They are booking. But I'm here for it, I think. Oh, that's like. They got a track meet out in LA on the 13th. I might have to slide. I saw some of the names. I think Rob Benjamin running. Vernon Norwood. I think Bailey. I got. I got to see who out there. I might. That might be worth going to see.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

I love where it's gonna be at. Where's it gonna be at?

[Shannon Sharpe]

La.

[Joe Johnson]

La, la.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, just. I don't know if anybody's ever seen a. A track. My professional track meet. I saw the Olympic trials when they were in Atlanta back in 96. Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

Man, listen, I ain't never on. I ain't been to no professional one. But when I was in college, you know, playing the university. Yeah, I. I track team. I'm talking about men and women. They always be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But y' all used to have them runners. Oh, y' all used to have distance runners. Y' all be killing people in. In the 1500, the 3000, you know, the 10,000. Y' all used to kill people. Like, now y' all got some rollers. Jordan Anthony just left. He won back to back. And then you got Watkins just went back to back. And y'.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Was she from. Was she from Arkansas?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The girl that just went 48.96. The second fastest time.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir. Yeah, I can't remember that. I can't remember.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know exactly.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but I. Look, man, I never experienced nothing like that, bro. It's different. You talking about some athletes, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They be. They be running. But you, if you see the way they run, man, look here. To try to do one of their workouts at the speed at which they do it, you might get one or two.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not gonna run with everyone. Not them time y' all going up there. I'm gonna be back here. Yeah. I'm gonna be I'll be back here at the back chilling.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn you.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

You never. You never know or understand how fast people are moving because watching from they

[Shannon Sharpe]

don't do it justice.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

No, seeing the times is one thing, Joe. It doesn't give you or do you any justice unless you watch the elite athletes at the top of their game run in person.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Co-host (possibly a guest or analyst)]

Joe Dog is unbelievable, man. My goodness.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you talk about in shape.

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