Nightcap Hour 2: Jameis Winston BLEW $400K a MONTH on Family & Friends + Lakers NEW regime FIRES Buss Brothers + Gelo Ball CHEAP TIPPER

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2

Date: November 21, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Episode Title: Jameis Winston BLEW $400K a MONTH on Family & Friends + Lakers NEW Regime FIRES Buss Brothers + Gelo Ball CHEAP TIPPER

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, NFL legends Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson ("Ocho Cinco") riff on the hottest stories in sports—from Jameis Winston admitting to spending $400,000 a month on family and friends, to seismic changes in Lakers management, to Gelo Ball’s controversial tipping habits. Their trademark blend of humor, insider perspective, and candid conversation shines through as they break down NFL and NBA narratives, personal finance in pro sports, and the nuances of athlete fame.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Eagles Negativity & A.J. Brown Criticism

[03:04–16:13]

• Media Narratives: Shannon and Chad discuss the "fishing expedition" by reporters trying to get negative quotes from Eagles WR A.J. Brown despite the team's success (8-2 record).
• AJ Brown’s Response: Both hosts sympathize with A.J.’s frustration and defend his play and mindset.
  • Chad Johnson: “This is the game they play. They come up with, ‘Your production is not the same, so you’re not the same player no more.’” [03:25]
  • Sharpe: Points out the hypocrisy—no questions for Saquon Barkley despite statistical drops.
• Offensive Struggles: The hosts analyze the Eagles’ passing game, suggesting the offense would flow better with stronger receiver involvement.
• X’s and O’s: Ochocinco and Sharpe break down Philly’s predictable, hitch-heavy route tree, and the need to push the ball downfield.

Notable Quote

"Reporters gonna go fishing every time... it's on the player whether they catch that bait or not." — Chad Johnson [05:01]

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2. Buffalo Bills’ Playoff Chances & AFC East Race

[22:16–26:55]

• Patriots Pull Ahead: New England leads the division, with Shannon doubting Buffalo’s ability to catch up given schedule and recent performances.
• Josh Allen’s Ball Security: Turnovers remain Buffalo’s Achilles’ heel.
• AFC North & Bengals: Some classic banter about Cincinnati’s defense (“You ain’t got no business saying ‘defense.’ Say ‘enclosed area.’” — Sharpe [26:38]).

Notable Quote

"Josh Allen is going to have to be Superman—and when he does, he gotta make sure he doesn't put the ball in harm's way." — Chad Johnson [22:45]

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3. Jameis Winston’s $400,000/Month Family Burn Rate

[27:04–34:34]

• Financial Cautionary Tale: Sharpe laments the prevalence of pro athletes going bankrupt (78% within two years of retiring).
• Personal Boundaries: Both hosts emphasize strictly limiting support to immediate family and not indulging extended relatives.
  • Chad: "My family wouldn't even disrespect me or try to indulge in a situation like that... it ain't happening." [27:42]
  • Sharpe: “400K/month? I’d have cut everybody off. None of 'em would have my number.” [30:54]
• Reflection on Old-School Family Values: Ochocinco’s family refused lavish gifts, preferring sentimental roots over upgrades.

Notable Quote

"A hundred thousand is the new ten. A million is the new hundred thousand. What is y’all talking?!" — Shannon Sharpe [28:45]

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4. Rising NFL Stars & Performances

[38:22–41:56]

• Kyle Shanahan on McMillan: The 49ers' coach dubs WR McMillan a future star; Ochocinco was on the bandwagon early, crediting his chemistry with Bryce Young.
• Panthers Outlook: Chad highlights Carolina's young talent and compliments standouts on both sides of the ball.

Notable Quote

“I knew with the addition of McMillan in that offense ... the chemistry between Bryce and McMillan is on point now.” — Ochocinco [39:05]

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5. WR-QB Relationships, Lions Concerns, and Sacks

[42:10–46:59]

• Addressing reports of disconnect between Amon-Ra St. Brown and Jared Goff—Ochocinco and Sharpe downplay any real issues, attributing performance dips to game conditions.
• The Lions lost 3 of their last 5 but hosts see no cause for alarm.
• Discussion on Lamar Jackson’s sudden spike in sack totals, with candid finger-pointing at underperforming linemen.

Notable Quote

"He's now a pass first and run quarterback later... which is why there are more sacks." — Chad Johnson on Lamar Jackson [45:50]

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6. Lakers' Leadership Shake-up: Joey & Jesse Buss Fired

[47:27–55:26]

• Ownership Change: Majority owner Mark Walter fires the Buss brothers as Lakers move into a new era.
• Legacy Loss: Sharpe and Johnson reflect on the identity loss for Buss family; discuss Mark Walter's ownership of Dodgers and Lakers.
• Generational Wealth: Share sympathy, but note the massive payout ($500–600 million each).

Notable Quotes

"That's our identity—the Buss, the Lakers. Just like the Browns selling the Bengals." —Sharpe [54:01]

"Your whole life, your dad owned the Lakers. That's all I do, I devote all my time to that. That goes away... Then what?" —Sharpe [51:58]

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7. Athlete Frugality: Gelo Ball’s 'Cheap Tipper' Habits

[56:03–58:50]

• Ball's Admission: Gelo Ball shares he only tips $10–$20 regardless of meal size.
• Culture Clash: Ochocinco, legendary for extreme thrift, one-ups Gelo by tipping even less sometimes, but notes he tips large for great service.
• Sharpe’s Approach: Tips based on experience and service, not strict percentage.

Memorable Banter

"You’re on a show with the cheapest athlete of all time and think I’m gonna give you $5,900 so you can buy $82,000 LV boots." — Chad Johnson [61:01]

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8. Audience Q&A

[62:20–83:00]

• Relationship Sports Rivalries: Debating whether it’s more fun to date someone who roots for or against your favorite team.
• NFL & NBA Inside Stories: Fun exchanges about Super Bowl heartbreak, personal favorite teams, and which player most resembles Ochocinco’s style (“Probably Devonte” — Ochocinco [80:24]).
• Motivation & Discipline: Both hosts share what drove them as players and still does in later careers; discuss the importance of discipline over mere motivation.

Notable Quotes

"Once that's in you, that doesn't leave. You just choose to be great at something else." — Shannon Sharpe [73:06]
"With motivation, you also have to have discipline. The two go hand in hand." — Ochocinco [74:22]
"Discipline is more important than motivation... are you disciplined enough to still get up and go do it?" — Shannon Sharpe [75:04]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Media “Fishing Expeditions”
  "Let me see how big a fish I can catch." — Shannon Sharpe [05:56]

• On Family Asking for Money:
  "You didn't change 400,000 diapers on me." — Shannon Sharpe [29:23]

• On New Lakers Ownership:
  "Your dad owned the Lakers…that goes away? Then what?" — Sharpe [51:58]

• On Athlete Tipping:
  "It's all about what you value... they value looking rich, not being gracious." — Chad Johnson [57:07]

• Life after Sports:
  "He will have a career after football most quarterbacks don’t have—a TV career, superior personality." — Chad Johnson on Jameis Winston [33:44]

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Important Timestamps by Segment

• Eagles / AJ Brown / Media Games: 03:04–16:13
• Bills, Patriots, Bengals, AFC East: 22:16–26:55
• Jameis Family Finances: 27:04–34:34
• NFL Rookie Standouts/McMillan: 38:22–41:56
• Lions/Receivers/Quarterback Chemistry: 42:10–46:59
• Lamar Jackson Sacks: 45:37–46:59
• Lakers Fire Buss Brothers: 47:27–55:26
• Gelo Ball Tipping Story: 56:03–58:50
• Q&A / Motivation: 62:20–83:00

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Summary

This Nightcap episode features Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson at their best: irreverent, passionate, sometimes poignant, sometimes hilarious—always authentic. They eviscerate media narratives around star players, puzzle over athletes’ personal finance decisions, analyze seismic shifts in sports franchises, and riff on culture, legacy, and what it means to truly make it. Longtime listeners—and newcomers—get insight, laughs, and the real talk you won’t find anywhere else.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Despite being 8 and 2 and fresh off a Super bowl win, there continues to be a lot of Negativity surrounding the Eagles. A.J. brown threw more gas on the fire today when asked about speculation that he isn't the same player he once was. Oo. Let's take a listen what AJ had to say.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

There they go with that bullshit. See what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's been speculation out there that you are not the same player you once. What would you say to those people?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I guess that Cor ain't the same player, E. All right. Okay. Hey, you see how the bull drive start? Huh? You see how the bull. They come up with that? Oh, your production is not the same as it was before, so now you're not the same player no more. Oh, now you lost a step. This is the game they play. This is the game they play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

This is. This is how they do. This is how they. That's how they do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know, Ain't nothing wrong with that, man. Man, you can see. You watch film. You watch the games on. Ain't nothing wrong with that, man. Why even see them reporter be playing? That's how she. You know what? I would have swung on that reporter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you see. Oh. Oh, you see how he framed it? What do you say to those that say that you're not the same player anymore? You see how he framed it?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do you say about those that say you're not the same? Hoping that he gets something. They got what he wanted. Yeah, I guess Saquon ain't the same play either. They got what they wanted. Yeah, because the cont. It don't even matter the context. Yeah, y' all said I'm not the same player. Well, Saquon ain't got a thousand yards rush. Remember, at this point in time last year, he had a thousand yards.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So why y' all didn't ask. Why are y' all not asking questions about him? So y' all keep coming. Y' all keep coming to me, asking me questions. But is the run. Does the run game look the same?

[Commercial Voice/Advertiser]

Nope.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Sure don't. So that means Saquon lost it. No. Ain't nothing wrong with him. Ain't nothing wrong with him. It ain't Nothing wrong with A.J.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain'T that wrong with A.J. brown either.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

The reporters know that, but they. You know the reporting gonna go fishing every time now. It's. It's. It's on the player, on whether they catch that bait or not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're right, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're right.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know, A.J. brown, he wanted him. He gonna. He gonna give you what you want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Every time oh, AJ Gonna speak his mind now?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, he gonna be every time. Hey, there was one other player just like that, too, that played, you know, over there, that War 81.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You ask him a question, he gonna give you what you want every time. So be careful. He ain't sugarcoat nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man. Look, I just think the thing is now is that we 8 and 2.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what can we be critical of? Ain't really anything you could be critical of because the team's eight and two, they're number one individual. They're the number one team in the division. So let's go to A.J. brown and hopefully he says something negative about somebody else.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all. You gotta hope. That's all they're hoping for now.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You said, like you said, it's a fishing expedition.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me see how big. Let me see how big of a fish I can catch.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

As a matter of fact, this is the thing too, right? Debate is the way you word the question.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Debate that the reporters use is the way they word the question. I'm a word in this way. And say, they say, you know, we don't even know who they is. Who is they? Is they watching film? Is they not seeing what's going on? Yeah, we. Aiden, too. I've been complaining about they the whole time. They should know what the problem is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And how about this here. Ever. Whoever say that I'm not the same player will ask the opposing team why they could keep putting their number one corner on me. Then if I ain't what they say, If I. If I ain't what you think or what they say I am.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All I know is I get road coverage and I get the best. They get their best corner. They don't put their third corner on me. They don't put their second or third corner on me. Why not? They say I ain't got it no more. You right. I don't. Throw me the ball and find out.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the only way. I bet that's. That's all I can tell you. That's all I got for you. I ain't. I ain't got nothing else to say. I really don't. Look, y' all know how I feel about this situation. Yes. I'd like to be a more active participant in the offense.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think if we. If. If all the receivers. I think. Look, and I don't want to speak for anybody else, but I think we all think that we could be more involved and the offense would Would flow smoother if myself, devonte, Goddard, Dodson, if we became more involved.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's not where we are right now. Hopefully that changes. Any more questions? Good day. That's it. That's all I got for yo Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, that. That, that's. That. That's that good. Politically correct answer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, hey. I thought about being polit. Hey, I still might. Might be perfect for politics right now.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Politician. Okay, Okay. I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said, hey, listen, with that being said, the. Ooh. No, I just like, hey, no, we're not. What you want me to say, man? You watching the games? Yeah, we're not. We're not. We're not playing well and we're not good offensively. No. Who can you pick out and say, okay, they're doing an outstanding job offensively, bro, we ain't scored a touchdown in a month. A month. A professional NFL team has not scored a touchdown. So there's enough blame to go around on everybody offensively, from coaches to players, myself, the quarterback, the offensive line, the running backs. There's no way to just pinpoint the blame because one time we get a holding call. Next time we jump offside. The next time we. We make a mistake, we do a mental mistake. So there's enough blame if we just. And it's just not okay. We get something going. Positive. Hold it. We get something going, then we have somebody with a middle mistake. So there's enough blame to go around. But at the end of the day, it's. It's upon everybody on this offense that's in that room and the coaches to figure it out. So let me ask you a question. You think Cincinnati feeling sorry for us?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think Tennessee feeling sorry for us? You tell me the team that's on our schedule that feels sorry for us that we haven't scored a touchdown in five weeks, now nobody. So they not feeling sorry for it. Why the hell we feeling sorry for ourselves? Empathy is something someone else have for you. You can't have it for your damn self, right? Oh, po me. Oh. Oh. Well, stay over there. They're over there. But Aja, bro, don't let. Don't let them try to get you to try to try to throw dirt on somebody else. Don't even do it. Hey, y' all heard what I said. Adam said. I don't really need to reiterate it. I just been saying this for the last year. I would like to become more involved in the offense, not out of selfish reasons. Do you see our passing game is struggling and Right now, we're very dependent on the defense, but at what point in time do we get to cap the character? Do we. Do we have to. Do we get to earn our checks? Because the defense is earning their checks every week.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Every week.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right now we're getting free checks.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So AJ later said he does not watch the other wide receivers do around the NFL. Reporters ask him say why his response. It gets me upset. Absolutely. Now this. Now he's talking my language.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah. That's a good one. That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bad.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, listen, unless. Unless you being productive, unless you are part of the offense week in and week out and knowing that you're. You're going to have those catches and those opportunities, I'm not watching the others that are getting them because I'm. That gonna get me mad. You think I'm gonna be watching film on Jamar and JSN and George Pickens and Devonte Adams, and they out there going crazy weekend.

[Shannon Sharpe]

10, 12 targets a game. I'm getting four, five.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Man. Please, man. Absolutely not. I don't want to see that. Hell, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was very fortunate. Like I said, it wasn't like it is now, Ocho, where they had. We had this influx of tight ends, but, yeah, Ben Colts had 160. I had eight, had 40. Yeah. Nah, man. That man didn't know 120 yards better than me. No. Hell nah. I see Brent Jones or them guy. Oh, no. Hell no. So I, I, I, I. 1,000%. 1,000% I am. I'm not watching. And don't let me. And don't let me. You know I'm playing one of those guys.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Romo. @ man, don't y' all let that man come in here and show you out in front of me. Don't y' all let that man come in his house and show out in front of me now. I'm just saying, don't let that man come in his house and show out in front of me. Do what y'. All. Hey. Do what y' all do to me in practice, Right?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I like that. That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man. Come on.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How that go? How that's gonna look, Ocho? Guns will come up in my house, go for a buck fifty. Now I'm on the side. Hell no. Hey, like Tom. See, I don't want. I want to play with Tom because remember that. That game that Randy went off? Yeah. Randy had like, two or three touchdowns. Excuse me. Tio had a. Went off with like two or three touchdowns. He said, come on Moss. He gave Moss four in the first half. You, you good? I'm good.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I'm good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm good. I'm real good. Kevin Petula and Sirianni are quite obsessed with the hitch route. Ranking the most hitch routes run per game via True Meteor. Dallas Goddard 9.44. Devonte Smith 9.1. AJ Brown 7.56. No other team has more players than the top 16.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What I, what I told you what I told you the other day about, about the rock, the route concepts. I can tell you what, I can tell you what A.J.

[Commercial Voice/Advertiser]

Brown.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I can tell you what Devonte Smith is running based on their alignment and based on formation and definitely based on down and distance. Every single time. Every time. I don't play for the Eagles. I, I love football. I'm not an Eagle fan, but I watch the game. The fact that I can still tell you what they doing, I don't watch them every single week. I mean, I mean if, if I know what's coming. You don't think the people that actually.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Watch film and get paid their job to know?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, man, come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean I just don't, I just don't know how you expect to be effective when you have this many guys in the top running hitches really push the ball down the field.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You got to. Because if you don't, they gonna sit on top of everything. Which is why, which is why most of the short and intermediate routes keep getting knocked down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why? Because there ain't no threat for you going over the top of it. Hell no. Why am I backing up knowing you ain't going no farther than 10 yards? I ain't even getting out of my backpedal. That's why Smitty catch so many deep balls over the top because they, he done hitched them.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, he done slanted him and hissing the death.

[Shannon Sharpe]

His didn't slam him to death and they'd be looking like, oh, here come. No, he over the top of you now.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, it's either the hitch, the slant or the curl. That's it. Oh, or maybe the cross of the overs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, the overall over. A lot of times when they throw him the goalball, he's on the left hand side.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yep, that's it. That's the extended the route route tree for them right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it's like it's. And, and I know it's frustrating. It's frustrating cuz you see all these guys, you see Jackson, you see jsn, you see a Mecca, you see Puka you see Chase, you see all these guys cut getting all the honey. I ain't getting up with vinegar. They a give me nothing. Vinegar? Yeah, I'm salty.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hold on. And not only am I only, not only am I only getting vinegar, they paying me $33 million.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And the first thing they gonna do is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well man, I don't know your production slip.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you not the same. It seemed like you don't lost a step. We paying you 33 but the production you're giving us is like we paying you 12 or 10. So we gonna ask you to take a pic of what I already know. I listen, I already know the game ain't finna play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Unfortunately I'm not gonna be able to do that. Guys. I wish, I wish I could. I wish I could help you out with your cap.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope.

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I turned off news altogether.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

[Commercial Voice/Advertiser]

It's the rage bait.

[Announcer/Advertiser]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If we got clear facts, maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

A very magical holiday. Ocho Drake may call this his wide receiver. Stephan Diggs. Dramatic Congratulations, Stephanie. He and Cardi welcome the baby girl. Congratulations. Hopefully mom and baby are doing well. Revealed that he's playing through a broken finger. Steph probably dramatic. Every time he gets hit, he lies on the ground and acts like he just got hit. By 18 wheeler or something. Ah O Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like what Drake said?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, I like. They, they have a, they have a really, really good, healthy relationship. It's good to see obviously, when you're playing well like this, you can make these kind of jokes, you can have, you can have some fun, you can pick make funny receiver, you, receiver, can make fun of your quarterback. And then things are going so well for them over there. And Drake May is playing out his mind. Yeah, Drake May is playing out his mind. So the reason they're having the success that they are having is simply because of the quarterback play and his decision making with the football. Obviously his supporting cast has been playing extremely well as well, including Stefan Diggs, who has had a, a, a resurgence y. Not not only, you know, on the field, but, but off the field as well. And the way he's carrying himself based on the way people. The perception or the perceived notion on who he is. So that, that's, that's really, that's really a good thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You remember we first got there and he was on that yacht and, and brable. Because I had a conversation with him. Oh yeah. Ain't been no more problems.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, he been on a straight now ever since then, huh? Huh? Hey, he been straight. He been straight as goddamn Cupid's arrow, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, what happened, man? Hey, the offensive lineman, they had me a nickname. So if I got like, I got injured, they come, hey, Lazarus, you okay?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Lazarus.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They call me Lazarus because they talk about. Every time I pretend like I'm dead and then I rise. I said, man, get out of here.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that's funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I ain't all right. The Panther, the Patriots lead the AFC East. It grew even bigger. Ocho. Yeah. Remember New England went to Buffalo and beat the Bills?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now nine and two, Buffalo seven and four. Miami's four and seven. The jets are two and eight. Do you think there's any chance Buffalo can catch the Patriots and win the ALC east again this year?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, that's a, that's a good question. I would have to see the remaining schedule for the Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen is going to have to be Superman. And when he does be Superman, he gotta have to make sure he doesn't put the ball in harm's way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, they become very beatable when that happens.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Exactly. Allah. When they played, the Dolphins jumped out to him early because of, because of mistakes. But.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they, they turned. He turned the ball over last week. He was able to overcome them. Yes, but you see what happened tonight and Even when, even when he. They turned. Now you mess around and get an offense now, a top flat offense, you turn the ball over like that. That's why I was surprised that they were able to get out of harm's way from Tampa last week. Yeah, but you mess riding. I mean, to turn the ball over three times and still had a chance. I mean, you were driving down to take the lead.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then another. Another turnover. But I just thought. I think New England is too well coached.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think they're too disciplined. I think they're too good for Buffalo to overtake them. I don't. I don't. I don't see. No, there's six games left.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just don't. I just don't see them losing.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, enough games for the Bills to overtake them, because they got to guess what? The Bills got to play them again, this time in Foxborough.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I. I don't think that's gonna happen. The goddamn bottom would have to fall out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Drake may would have to get injured. They're gonna be fine. They're gonna be fine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

As you got the. You got the Bills remaining schedule. Can you put post that real quick? It's. Yeah. I say with Drake made the way they can Henderson the way they can run the football.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Even you know, Madre Stevenson. Stevens. Yeah, Stevenson, he's out. But you got Diggs, you got, you know, booty. You got guys that can make plays.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hunter Henry, Mac Hollins.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ocho. The Bill's remaining schedule. They're at the Steelers. Bengals come to them at the Patriots at the Browns. Get the Eagles at home. Get the jets at home.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, every last one of them games gonna be hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. Except the Bengals.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Don'T do that. Every last one of them game gonna be hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Except the Oho. Y' all got four guys in the top ten on missed tackles. Did you know that?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes, I know that. But Joe, bro, hey, you know. You know, you know. Hey, can I tell you something?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Joe Burrow took all the first team snap today. So you know what that tells me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What I tell you?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It tell me. He playing Sunday against the Patriots. You know what else that tell me what it. Even without Chase, we gonna beat the Patriots ass.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my goodness. Man, you hear me, Chad? Y' all tired of hearing that foolishness.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, baby. I know, I know she, you know, my baby, you know, she. She's a Patriot fan. So I'm just letting you know right here in front of the world, you know, y' all Finna lose.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, boy. Man. Miles Gary might second five times by himself. He might break the record on you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Wait, they play the Browns next?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they got the Steelers next. They got the Steelers next. Then they played. They got the Steelers on the 30th.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Which is a week from Sunday.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. And then they got the Bengals, then they got the Patriots, then they got the Browns, then they got the Eagles, then they have the Jets.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that. Hey, that's crazy. That. Boy, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. Because. Listen, defense. Defense. All right, Bengals. Our defense is. Is, eh. Iffy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't. Y' all don't. Don't even say nothing about no defense. I want to hear you say D or fence.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I said. I said our defense is iffy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Say enclosed. I don't even want to hear you say fence. Say enclosed area. You ain't got no. You ain't got no business tell you this.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Any given Sunday, ain't no telling what.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Might happen except the Sunday that Cincinnati play.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All right. All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Remember you said this idea. Ocho Jameis Winston opened up about letting his family spend $400,000 a month. Jameis signed a four year, $25 million contract with the books. He said a $400,000 a month burn rate would have depleted his 25.25 million contract in five years. An estimated 78% of NFL players go bankrupt when or under financial stress within two years of retirement, according to CNBC. Oo. Have you ever heard such a thing of letting family, friends and loved ones burn through basically $5 million a year?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, never heard of that. And. And my family wouldn't even disrespect me or try or even indulge in a situation like that. Make it. When I make it, I take care. Immediate family for the sacrifices, for the things that they've done to help me get to where I am, keeping me on the right track. But all that feeling entitled after the fact, it ain't happening.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, it is.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Is not happening. No, it's not happening because I. I understand this has to last me long term. I understood that early.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I don't think people realize how much $400,000 a month is. I don't think they realize. I mean, what. I mean, he had to be buying houses and cars because $400,000. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And you got to be careful. It. The people in this era. Everybody rich. Huh? You can't tell them nothing. Everybody rich. All the hypotheticals on Twitter, all the hypotheticals on Instagram. Oh, a hundred thousand dollars ain't no money. Man, what the hell?

[Shannon Sharpe]

A hundred thousand is the new 10. A million is the new hundred thousand.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What is y' all talking?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's y'.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all talking some bull jive?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, they. Hey, they be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, they be killing when they start. When they start talking about, hey, this ain't no money, I'm like, all right, yeah, okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, okay. 400,000amonth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What? Yeah. Nah, I was like, hey, hey, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm happy. I'm happy for. I'm happy you were able to get that under control, James. I. I really am. And for family to even.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

To ask, to put you under that kind of duress and try to make you feel guilty, like, hey, boy, I used to change diapers on you. Well, you ain't changed 400, 000 of them on me.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Hey, I don't even think, you know, if my mom and my grandma was here. Matter of fact, when they were here, they wouldn't even be comfortable. They wouldn't be comfortable for asking for that kind of amount. When I got drafted. I'm ready to move my mama, my grandma, out the city. Baby, we done made it. You didn't got to live here no more. Where you want to go, boy? I'm not leaving this house. You know how long this house been here? This was passed down to me. I'm not going nowhere.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, what you mean? Yeah, man, they. Hey, oh, your bad. That's what. My grandma was my brother. Hey, got that money, 88. My grandma trying to take them old. Our cast iron beds, all them a dirty pots, right? All canned jars. My grandma got jarred like tomatoes and squash and okra. She tried to take that stuff that's been jarred 10, 15, 20 years.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The old people like, yeah, that's. That's a new. That's a new age stuff because my grandma would have never asked for anything like that. My mom. Look, look, we got. I brought my mom a couple of cars. My mom made 400, 000amonth.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, hey, that. That's crazy. That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's crazy work, Ocho. That's damn near $15,000 a day. 15,000 a day? Man, please. Hey, I'd have cut out of cut. I cut everybody off. No, I'm changing my nut. Well, first of all, you ain't. Ain't none of them had my number.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I don't, I don't know anybody. The only, the only person that I felt I owed was Mary Porter.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, my mama.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, look, the, the, the, the core. Mom, grandma, sister, brother. Yeah, that's it. That's really all my financial obligations. Now. Anything I do out of the kindness of my heart, that's on me, be thankful. But it ain't gonna be no 50, 000. Ain't gonna be no hundred thousand.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I ain't got it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey. Hey. You need help getting the car? Gotcha. A car. Not s, plural.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And hold on. And not the car. You want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My family this simple? They, I mean, I probably had a pickup truck or something like that. I mean, my family, My family. They, they. I, I, I, I will tip my hat to them. Yeah, they ain't like that. O. Joke.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, look, some of them lived in mobile homes and they weren't trying to get no four bedroom, nothing like that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right? I got you, I got so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I just can't believe that somebody, that a family member would ask for 400,000.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I mean, listen, I mean, well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, at the end of the day, I mean, well, I guess he had to give somebody power of attorney because I don't think he's just writing checks like that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Absolutely not. Hell no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hopefully that only went on for one month. Hopefully that went over one month, Ocho. And he was able, and he was able to like. Okay, guys, come on now.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody got everything they need, right? We good, we good, we good.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay. That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because that's at the beginning of his career, Ocho. Ain't no guarantee. You don't, you don't know. There's a guarantee that you're gonna ever. You don't be in a position to make that kind of money again.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you don't, you don't know that. Like, hey, what if this, what if. That's the only money that he would have ever made. Now, he's been very fortunate that, you know, he's gotten, you know, he got some money from New Orleans. I think he got, you know, decent pay. They not, not like what quarterbacks get, right? He ain't got no, uh, uh, uh, what's Daniel Jones? No, no, no. No payday like he got from the Giants or the payday like he got for one year like he got from the Colts. He ain't got that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

But you know what, you know what he will have?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do you have?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He will have some. Most of the other quarterbacks don't have. He will have a career after football.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh yeah, for sure. For sure.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Here you go. He will, he will have a career after football. On tv. Super superior personality. Yeah, superior.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I, like I said, I hopefully he can take advantage of this situation and obviously he's not going to be the start of their long term because they have Jackson dart and, and it seems like he's fine being a backup. He likes being a mentor. He likes being the boy to reason and a leader in the locker room. And so hopefully he can play well and say, you know what, we like having him around. We like the leadership role that he is and he can stay on because I, I like James. I like James. He, you know, he, he had some hiccups early in his career, but he's turned his life around and he's been, he's been, he's been a model citizen and I could commend that, I can commend that for him.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I turned off news altogether.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

[Commercial Voice/Advertiser]

It's the rage bait.

[Announcer/Advertiser]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News Reporting for America, Kyle Shanahan believes McMillan will be one of our best receivers in the NFL, Shanahan said. I think he's a stud. He's going to be one of our best receivers in this league sooner than later. He's got all the skill set to do it. I think he's just getting started. Through 11 games, McMillan has racked up 748 receiving yards on 54 catches. He ranked sixth in the NFL and receiving yard and lead all rookies and in the categories, Carolina selected McMillan with the number eight pick. Ojo, you agree?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Why do you think I said what? Why do you think I said what I said at the beginning of the season? You know, before the season started, I knew with the addition of McMillan in that offense, with Bryce Young playing the way he was planned when the season ended last year, that momentum was on carry in the chemistry between Bryce and McMillan is on point now. We just got to get everybody else on board, you know, Rico Dowdle running the ball the way he is. You know, when Hubbard goes in there, he compliments them as well. They gonna be all right. They playing good defense. One of my favorite divas defenders in the NFL and J.C. horn a fool playing his ass off, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

So they're playing really good football on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Both sides of the goddamn complimentary football.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes, man. Yes, man. It's beautiful.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, Bryce for 448 last week. Ocho it what, three, four touchdowns.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was sensational. McMillan was sensational.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Sensational. Yeah. Now you got to get the rest of that receiving core, get the rest of that receiving core, making those plays, being consistent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cuz they got Jimmy Horn, they got Hunter Rro, Hunter Winfro. Rico Doddle is running the ball really well. Yeah, they got, they got, they got to make a little good team. I mean, I think they can challenge Tampa for the, for the division.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn, that's dope. They. They damn sure could.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, because Tampa doesn't have a need. I mean, I think Tampa has them again. I think Tampa has Atlanta, obviously New Orleans. We'll see what shook what he's done. I think he won his last start. We'll see if he can put, put together play put back to back games together and make it happen. But I, I just don't know. I just. I think I done lost. I lost all the hope in my hometown. My hometown team. Moo. I just, I just.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Who that, who that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But just.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Falcons.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My home state. T. Well, hometown.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, up there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, The Panthers at 49ers, Rams at home at Saints, Tampa, Seattle at home, and then the Bucks on the road. So they got the Bucks twice in the final three weeks. Once at home, once on the road, sprinkled in between Seattle. So they got the AFC West. I mean the NFC West, 49ers, Rams, Seahawks.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that's gonna be some good games. Yeah, they're gonna be some good games.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They do get. They at 49ers, but they do get Rams and Seahawks at home.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That Rams Seahawk game. Hey, Bryce, just be ready to put up another 400 yard performance. Could them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Teams can score and they got defenses. Come get you, Seattle.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Come get you. Yeah, Keep pounding. I'm in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ross. St. Brown doesn't think there's any disconnect between him and Jerry Goff. After the Eagles loss, st. Brown ended 10 incomplete targets, the most of his career. He caught two of the 12 targets by golf. I'm not worried about Jared one bit. He said, Ocho. Yeah. The Lions have lost three of the last five games. Any reason for concern, Any reason to be alarmed?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I mean, I don't think there's any reason to be alarmed. It is the game of football. Unk. You want to be as consistent as possible all the time. Offensively, you always want to hit your stride. You always want that connection to be there. Receiver, quarterback, quarterback to receiver. But that's not the way the game works. You're going to have your ups, you're going to have your downs. I think when it matters most, those two with the connections that they've had since they've been together is going to always be there. They just had a bad game. They had a bad game. Now collectively, they lost what, three of the last five.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's collectively as, as a team. Now just. Those two just had a bad connection this Pat, this past previous game. And you have to think all the pressure, all the pressure that was on golf, all the pressure, balls getting batted down, you know, pressure being on him, making him uncomfortable, where he can't step into throws and make the throws that he's used to making. You have games like that outside of that, probably this weekend, they can be right back to doing what they do best.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it's tough, you know, playing in those conditions, the wind whipping 30, 40 miles an hour. I don't miss those days playing. And it's nice to have a running game because, you know, hey, TD can run us to a victory. But it's. It's tough. I. I don't think. I don't think if I'm armin raw, I'm not worried because I know we have a connection, because I know. Guess what? We're gonna go right back into the dome where the conditions are controlled. And watch. I'll have 18 quick catches for 100 to 130 yards. Watch. And then you're like, I don't even know why I asked that question, because I see the report that they've had since Amara has gotten here.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why would I believe after one game that, I mean, that's one game. I can see there was a pattern where, okay, there's three, four, five, six games. It's one game. And you think that now all of a sudden, because of the conditions that were out there, that we not connected somehow.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. You know, they're gonna pull, they're gonna pull something out of Something out of the air just to make, Make a report.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. I'm not, I'm not. I'm not worried about this either, Ocho. I think, look, I understand they've lost three. They haven't played well. They've turned the football over. You know, you can't play. It's hard to overcome that because the teams are getting better. Teams are getting better. And you know, you, you turn the ball over three or four times and, and, and put teams on short fields. There's a great chance you're gonna get your ass kicked.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really good chance you're gonna get your ass kicked. And that's what happened. And that's what happened. That's what's happening with the, the Lions this year, is that they're putting the ball in harm's way. And yeah, years past, they were over able to overcome it. They're not able to do that now. Oh, Lamar Jackson was taken aback today when the media told him he's already been sacked the same number of times and seven starts this season than he was all last year. Man, I got to talk to my offensive line about that. I'm going to holler at my guys about that. This season. Lamar has been sacked 23 times, which is the eighth most in the league, despite him having sought out three games.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But hamstring injury last year, lamar was sacked 23 times in 17 starts, which ranked 26th among all quarterbacks. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Reason to be concerned.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah, not. Not really. No reason to be concerned. But what I do like about Lamar most of the time now is he's. Now he is a pass first and run run quarterback later. And I think him trying to extend plays, which is why they're more sacks as opposed to how it was last year. And then there's been some bad off the line play on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man, the right side.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm not gonna say no names, but he went number 77. You got to have a little bit more pride, baby. You got to have a little more. Have a little bit more pride in your game, you know, and wanted to look good not only for yourself, but for your team on, you know, on film, outside of that. Yeah, I, I don't, I don't, I don't really see no, no issue. I don't really see no issue. And they started out bad too. They started out bad too. Most of the time they play well. They come out the gate on fire. They come out the gate on fire and they just weren't, they just haven't been able to get it, get it together the way they did in the previous seasons and they trying to build themselves out that hole. They trying to dig themselves at that hole. They probably going, they probably are going to do it with Lamar now being healthy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

So they, they gonna, they're gonna be all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, they might have, would have won more games that they went to Huntley instead of Cooper Rush. I don't know what made them think Cooper Rush was going to be able to hold because Huntley has played well for them in the absence of Lamar Jackson.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you have, you have something that you can look at and says, okay, Huntley's played well. He started a playoffs game for us. He's one game for us in the past. But you go with Cooper Rush.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I want, I wonder whose call that was. Probably Harbaugh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, it was the wrong call. I don't know who call it was. It was, it was the wrong call. The first shake up in the Lakers Majority owner Mark Walter fire Joey and Jesse Buss. Joey Buss was the alternate governor and vice president of research and development with the Lakers while Jesse was the team's assistant general manager. In a statement the Buss brothers wrote, we are extremely honored to have been a part of this organization for the last 20 seasons. Thank you Laker Nation for embracing our family every step of the way. We wish things could have been done different with the way our time ended with the team. And at times it's like this. We wish we could ask our dad. What do you think of all this?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, listen, they're going in a new direction. They got a new player who is now the face of the franchise and I see they're moving on with they out with the old and in with the new. So now two positions have opened up. Two positions have opened up. I'm curious of who they're going to have fill those positions.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not those two. You know, I, I was reading where they say since they got the snap benefits back, they're going to make everybody reapply to make sure there nobody sneak through the crack and somebody get on the benefits that doesn't belong to be there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay, okay, Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, I don't think they're going to allow them to reapply for the jobs and see if they can get an outside, you know. No.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think I read where they were kind of upset that that genie left them unprotected. Right. You know, well, they were the only two, if I'm not mistaken, they were the only two that were against the sale of the Lakers.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay. So there. There. There's where the issue lies.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they knew probably they would be vulnerable. They might have been the only two that. Other than Jeannie.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was working within the organization. And normally when somebody comes on the likelihood, they're going to probably want to bring their people on. That's just the way it is.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And. And you have to understand that they like to work with people that they're comfortable with. It's just like a new general manager. Unless the coach is playing coaching at an extremely high level and the team is doing well, you know, he's probably going to want to get his own coach in there, and they're going to want to get their own players in there. That's just the way it is. You know, Jamie, you know, they sold the team for 10 billion. I think Dr. Buss left him. Left them in great shape. Yeah, they're gonna get a. I don't know how many. I think it's. I think it's six of them. I think. I think it's six kids. How many Ash. Is it six? I think it's six of them. Maybe. I. And then they got some young ones, you know, But it'd be. It's gonna be interesting to see. I don't think it's the Lakers. I mean, the. The guy that purchased the Lakers, Ocho, he owned the. He owns the Dodgers also.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Who is that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mark Walters.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, man. Mr. Walters, man. Hey, that's my dog, you know. You know, I used to. I used to date. I used to date Mr. Wallace's daughter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No. Yeah. You ain't know that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't know that, Ocho. Yeah, I'm glad you. I'm glad. I wish I didn't know that, but I'm glad you shared that with us.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, well, you know, I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, can't. Y' all glad you all knew that now.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, well, you know, hey, back in my day. Back. Back in my day. What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Back in the day, what?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Huh? What you mean? Boy, I would hell when I was. Well, now. Huh? On sweet Jesus. Yeah. Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. I can imagine you. Hell, when you. Well, yeah, yeah, Deli, he had six, but a seventh was announced a few years ago, so, you know, you split. I, I don't know if they owned all of it outright for the all hundred or he had eighty. Whatever. Any, Whatever the case may be, they're probably. Ocho, they're probably gonna get 500, $600 million each. I think they'd be okay. Yeah, they'd be all right. They'll be all right.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Matter of fact, they could take that five second man and start a new, Start a little business, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they start. I thought you told me get a new team.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They ain't getting no new, not no new team, but find something you passionate about, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that's all they know was basketball.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

But that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gotta think about it your, your whole life. Your dad owned the Lakers, right? Guess what? I go to college, I work for my dad.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With the hopes of actually being able to run the team potentially one day. That's all I do. I devote all my time to that. That goes away. Do what?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's crazy because a lot of what their identity is. When you hear that last name. Are you, are you related to Genie Dr. Bus? Your dad?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my sister. That's my sister. And that's my dad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes, yes. Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sorry. Hear that? You guys are sold a team. Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Or am I ain't too sorry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The mom and pop shops, you see all these big corporations scooping them up.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Coming right in. But they, they always give them a hefty, A hefty check too, for coming.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I mean, I think Dr. Bus probably paid what, $30 million for the franchise. 25. $30 million.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was now back in the late 70s. That's a lot of money.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't want people to think. I want people to think about, oh, 30. 30 million in the 70s was a ish ton of money.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's. But that's, that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It still is, but you can imagine what it was back then.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Back then. Oh, that's loaded, boy. Yeah, that's crazy loaded.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's. It's tough, Ocho, when it's a, It's a family owned business.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you've held that business like I said, they would have owned from 79. Because he purchased the team from Jack Kent Cook, who used to own the Lakers.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So with that being said, so, 79, so we looking at 46, 47 years. That has Been in the family.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's our identity. The bus, the Lakers. It's just like. It'll be just like if the Browns were to sell the Bengals.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all. That's all Mike Brown knows.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all. What's the, what's his daughter name?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Katie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Katie. That's all she knows. So if they were to sell that, what's their identity. That's why the likelihood. They'll probably never sell that. It's like the Cowboys. I mean, yeah, Jerry's worth out, but Jerry identity. Those kids. Identity. They've had that team since 1989 when they drafted Troy number one overall.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you look at that. So Stephen and, and Jerry Jr. And Charlotte. That's all they know. That's the identity. The grandkids, kids, that's. That's what they know. That's what they're tied to now. So it'd be hard for them to do. To do something else. Right. And I think the kind. I think. I think Jerry got that in his will. Ironclad. They could never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever sell the Cowboys. No. Yeah. I mean the, the. The Bears and the Hallas McCaskey. Who else? The Morrows with the Giants, the Rooneys with the Steelers. I mean, can you. I don't, I don't see. I mean it could happen. I mean anything's possible. But I mean it's, it's tough. It's tough. I, I can, I can just imagine how they feel, Ocho, because it's so entrenched in them.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And now, and now it's gone.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho. We got. I guess I hope for the kids wanna. Want to carry on. Now I'm selling every. I'm selling. They don't want to. They don't want no part of me fooling myself. See, I hope my kids come around. They not.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nope. My mind either. They. They. They into their own. They. They into their own special thing. They got their own lane. Each, each and every last one of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They like. They like what they like and I'm okay with that. I'm OK. Jello Ball says he rarely tips more than 10 or $20, regardless of the cost of the meal. I mean, if I'm at a restaurant, I leave a little tip. I ain't going to Chipotle it leaving a Tip or McDonald's, none of that. But I can get out, you know, get like a 400 meal. I'm going to leave like 10, 20 only, you know. No, I was last night that's how I rock evil. For real. I ain't doing no 20%. I ain't gonna lie. It's either 10 or 20. You were great. In you get $20. You were cool. I shoot you a cool 10 just for being there. Oh, yo, we were just talking about last week. You also, I'm guess you shooting a cool 20 on a 400 meal.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, hell nah. 400 bill they getting, they getting a thousand dollar tip.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yellow bad, jello. Say jealous. Say you are high. Here you get 20.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It's all on what you value. Huh? It's all in what you value, you know, you know, they, they, they don't value looking. They don't value, they, they value looking the part. They value looking rich. No, they value looking like they got it. But when it comes time to, you know, to being gracious, you know, to, to a server or a waitress or, or a patron that's in the service industry. Oh, now it's a problem.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, now it's only 20. I mean, so, I mean I, it, it is what it is, you know, that, that, that's his way of doing things and I have my way of doing things.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but I'm a tip. Like I, I ain't giving no thought. I mean it all depends if I, if I got a ten thousand dollar bill, which I don't, I ain't gonna have one.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I would leave that. But you know, I was at a place last night and, and the guy was great bringing the drinks and you know, brought me a couple of ginger ales, you know, had a sidecar, you know, with a little shave out laportier. Hey. And I was like, damn, I forgot to get. So I called, I called my guy back to hey man, get a guy that was serving us those drinks, give him a hundred dollars because I had already left the bartender, you know, that was making the drinks, I left, left for a hundred dollars and I want to get him because I mean man, he had my stomach slushing around with all the ginger ale he kept bringing over there. But nah. And you know, people clean the room.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like I said, I keep, you know, I keep, keep a little change on me to clean the room. I give them like 30, $40. Turn down service. I give them 30, $40. Yeah, something like, yeah, something like that. But not, I mean $20, not 10, 20. I don't, can't, I don't remember last time I left 10, 20 on, on a bill probably like, okay, it all depends. I mean I get my nails done, I normally leave $20.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause the bill is like, 75, 80 bucks. I give them 20. That's 20. That's 25, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah, right. You know, I don't. You know, I don't really look at percentages on, man. I just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I look at percentages.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I got you. I got. I got you. You know, I just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I probably. If I had that 60. If I had that 6, 900, I probably stopped looking at percentages, y'. All.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

60, 69. You talk about 57.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, nah, ocho. Interest. What interest, Ocho? That thing coming up. Hey, that thing about to hit 26. You feel good about yourself, Ocho?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Christmas coming up, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for me, too.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, Christmas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You make. You say like you don't want to have to celebrate Christmas.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, I'm for. No, I'm gonna see. That's your Christmas gift. That. That's your. That's your. Hey, man, Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, Chad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y'. All. Chad, I'm gonna need y' all to make that make sense to me. This man owed me. He say my Christmas gift is the money that he owes me, right? That ain't no gift, Ocho. You owe me that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I owe you. I owe you a Christmas present. I'm giving you a gift.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no. You don't owe me no Christmas present. You owe me the money that you owe me, right?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And what better time to give it to you than on Christmas? No, you said. You said it just right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no. Ojo. I can't. I can't. I can't. I'll. I can't get down like that, man. Ain't no but little 59. Look. No, I mean, you little. Shoot me seven. You can go ahead and shoot me 7K. I want to get those LB boots that are for real just came out with, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They cost eight. They call 18,000.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They cost 82, 000.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, so you gonna. You gonna take the money I give you and go waste it on some boo?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you worry about what I do about.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Listen, hey, listen. You. You. You on. You. You are on a show with arguably the cheapest athlete of all times and think I'm gonna give you 5,900 so you can go spend on some 82,000lv bo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Since you put it like that, I'm gonna shoot you because I don't like the way you moving. So I. I'm just gonna, you know, I'm gonna have to do something with your paycheck. I don't like the way you move it. Man gonna tell me because I want to buy something. He gonna talk about, nah, I ain't gonna pay. You gonna go waste my money? That's not your money.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It's okay to buy some. It's not okay to go buy that. That.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't get to tell them, you know, my money.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

We old now. You know, we need to buy. We need to buy things we need. We need. We don't need to buy things we want. Now, when we were in our 20s.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I might want to get buried in those boots.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Might want to get buried in them.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah, they ain't gonna mess the black tuxedo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I want to be buried in Tim's.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, they got baby. I don't want to be cremated. That fire hot. Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, Ocho, you know, Hey, I. Hey, I, I, I. I don't want nobody. That's why I do it. That's why I do it right now. Ocho. I don't want five twice.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I got you. Hey, hey. There it is. It's all about learning for your lesson. It's all about learning from your lesson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that's all right, guys. We're gonna get you here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This was a good one. Oo. That's a good one.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What happened?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Adj543, unc and Oo would you rather date someone whose favorite team is your favorite team or her team is a rival to yours? Seem like it would be fun to go at it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, honestly, to me, I would love to date someone, which I'm doing right now. And that rival. That rivalry is going to happen this Sunday. You know, I want them. I want them to like the opposite team. You heard me. So, yes, when we say rivalry, I'm just saying. Let's say. Not rivalry. Let's say two team.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Her team is one, and no rivalry. It's got to be the Steelers or the Browns.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay. Hey, that'd be dope. That. That'd be dope. I think that would be fun. I think that that would be fun. That'd be hell. That'd be healthy for the relationship. No, you don't like that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. You root for my team.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? Under this roof, everybody, we want accord, right?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay. Okay. One band, one sound.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what it is. Man, I mean, like, everybody be liking them damn Cowboys.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They love the Cowboys, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right, right. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Those.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Women, you mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Why they like the Cowboys so much?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if it's the uniforms or my dad like the Cowboys or. I grew up watching the Cowboys. I don't know the reason why. Right. No, you ain't going to be yelling and screaming. Well, first, you can like who you like, because I watch the TV to my. By myself, right? So I'm in another part of the room, and then when they get to screaming for their team, I'm like, no, you got to cut that. You got. No, you. You. You doing too much.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, we need to be on the same team. Oo, we're the same team. We're in the same house.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, that. That ain't fun, though. That ain't fun. That ain't fun.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I always have watch parties. I. Who you for, man? You know you can't come. You better root for my team.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah, see, I don't like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That. That ain't my fighter. Hey, I'm going for such and such, man. Come on. What. I'm sure they gotta. They got a part. They got parties where you go root for the other fighter.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, that. That's a. That's a boring party, huh? How you gonna have a fight party and everybody in there going for the same person?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's fun.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, that ain't. That ain't fun.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You get some energy. Maybe. Maybe he.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I need. I need some arguing. I need. I need to see emotion throughout. Throughout. Throughout the game. Ah, how we done score to your team? 9 90, boo. Boo. You know that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I need that, Ocho. The last part I had. Last thing I had, I had. I had like seven, eight guys came over and they watched. We watched the New England Seattle.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, man would Russ through that pick.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, Super Bowl. And I know. I know that hurt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was like. It was like somebody had died. They're like, man, sharp, can you believe he did that? I'm like, nah, hell no. I can't believe he did that. What the hell, y'? All.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, that was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nobody could believe he did that. The Patriots couldn't even believe he did that, let alone Seattle fans. I mean, they glad he did do it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, hell no, I ain't never seen no mess like that before.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That game should have been won.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't never see. I don't know we'll ever see another ending like that. Ocho. Top shelf. Mexican. Mexican. Let's go say Maine. Hey, man, you know what that mean? Ocho. I don't. Ricardo Lazo 4402 Texans got a gauntlet schedule left, but we needed this one to keep our playoff hopes alive. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. But you got a defense. You got a defense.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That'll keep you in every game. But when you play like you, when your offense is like that, they just can't turn it over and put you on a short field. I mean, think about it. The defense only gave up 12 points. That was a kickoff return.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was a kick. Excuse me, That's a kickoff return. They didn't get that on the defense. Kenny Hudson 73 18. The offensive line let Josh down tonight. Be free, send help. They did. They got, they, they got their ass kicked tonight. They got their ass kicked tonight. Aaron Owens 51 3. Which Bulls group around Jordan and Pippen was better? The first three peat or the second three peat? I think the second because they had Rodman. Rodman led the league in rebounding every year was there. I mean just imagine what I meant. Think about it now. We, we applaud guys to get 12, 13. Rodman was getting 18 rebounds a game.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn. Always in the right place.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Being able.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For me, I would say, I would, I would say Jordan was more athletic the first time around. But for me, because the addition of Jordan, I mean the addition of Rodman, I would say the second. Red Hood 6378 Bills fan said Lamar 2 interception, no TD's was bad. Hold on. Bill's fan said Lamar, 2 interceptions, no TDS was bad. Just for Josh to have a worse stat line to lose to that level to beating the Texans ain't for everyone. Look, he didn't, he didn't play well tonight. No, I mean, you know, and I think it wasn't that he didn't play well. I think the Texans had a lot to do. Why he didn't play well. You get sacked eight times, it's hard to overcome eight sacks. Now it's been, it's happened. We saw Joe get sacked in Tennessee. He got sacked nine times and he was over able to overcome that. But the Texans didn't help him by turning the ball over. And had they turned the ball over, given the Buffalo Bills a short field, maybe we're having a different outcome even with the way the defense played. But the Texans didn't help them tonight. I mean, I I don't really look at it like, well, Lamar did this. They both lost. Lamar lost to the Bills. The Bills lost to the Texas. Joseph Salazar, 1. Oh, I don't care what you say. H Town is D. One is the number one D. Yeah, you do. Yeah, we. You do. You guys have the best defense. Yeah, I agree.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

We not argue. We aren't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all got y' all number one. A lot of other stuff, too, but, you know, we can't talk about that. 26. We're gonna talk about it. Can't talk about it right now. 25. Come on. 25. Get out of here. E.J. hutton, 42. Yo, bills and Chiefs coming back to Earth, man. I mean, you got to realize that she's been up in orbit for so long. Damn, they should have to come back down there, don't you think? Yeah, They've been in the AFC Championship game every year since Mahomes been the starter. They won the division every year since Mahomes been the starter. So you gotta. Actually, they won the division. The last time they didn't win the division was 2015 when the Broncos won it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they won it with Alex Smith and. And they wanted. Every year Mahomes has been there, so 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24. And they wanted. They wanted in 17, so they. No, I mean, damn. L. Pre 90, you wore 81, 82, 84. Jerseys numbers and your playing days. What went into changing to 84? Back in 92, how much did Sterling's number play a role? It was. I wanted that number. Obviously, a rookie. I mean, Ricky the Teal had that number, and he wasn't gonna give it to no rookie that possibly didn't make the team.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But once I found out Ricky Nat wasn't coming back and night. And at the end of the 91 season, man, I called Coach Reed and say, coach Reed, can I get eight? Could I get 84? He's like, yeah, I don't see why not just call the TR. A. Hey, I call Ronnie Bill. I said, hey, I need to get that 84. Make sure you put sharp on the back of it. Because I. Because that. I wore two in college. I had. I wore three in high school. My brother had three, so I wore three in high school.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that was the really only time I've ever had a number. I always had. Like, when I was running back, I was 22. When I was a wide receiver, I was number 80. I played offensive line, I was 64. Yeah, I played everything. I played everything except center. I was a guard, a tackle, a running back, quarterback, wide receiver, tight end.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cal Simpson, 7583 uncle no show. The Texas hit Superman with the red kryptonite. Somebody called Daily Planet. Metropolis is doomed. Between y' all see Marshawn directing the orchestra. Hilarious. He a national treasure. Oh, man. Beast mode beyond one, man. That joke will be all over the place. Doing some of everything.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He's funny, but.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo, now we about to hit the road. Comic book nerd. 1783, 21 plus fans go. Then hit that, then hit the bed. This game Allen is terrible. Nah, Allen ain't terrible.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Hey, don't, don't, don't let one game fool you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. No, no, no. He the real deal. I get. So I guess you didn't see the previous week where he's only two guys have ever had three touchdown passes and three touchdown rushes in a single game. Allen has done it twice. Terrible. People don't do that, Dale. That dude 74. Just sending love to Nightcap way. Thank you, Dale. Appreciate that. We appreciate the love. I don't even know what that say. Ocho takes Viagra on game day for performance. He said so. He said he took a half of one, not the full. He ain't want the full. He ain't want the full effect. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You don't take the whole thing. Just clip off a little bit, get the blood flow going. You know, it allows you to be much more explosive in everything that you do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I take your word for it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kaylin Blake Moore. 4917. What's up, Uncle Nocho? Best show on YouTube. Easily. What were the things that motivated you both to become who you are now? I mean, the same thing that drove us to. To become what we became in football. That don't leave.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Once that's in you, that doesn't leave you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

To be great at what you do, that doesn't leave. You just choose to be great at something else. I wanted to be the best football player that I could possibly be. Then I transitioned. Try to be the best. Podcast or whatever, you know, on their personality. I could possibly be. I try to be the best person I can possibly be. That doesn't leave. When you transition from one job to another, you just constantly try to be the best. You see, Jordan, he tried to be the best basketball player. He got a fishing crew. He used to have a motorcycle crew. Now he got a NASCAR crew. He tried to be the best. That's. That's you know, some things you can control, some things you can't. I mean, you can't help if people like you or the product that you produce in football. I can control that. My efforts get to dictate how good I am, Ocho. But in this space, other people have to tell us how good we are.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what motivated me. Ocho. What motivated you?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I mean, I was self motivated. I just wanted to be good at everything I did. And not only did I want to be good at everything I did, I wanted to make sure I did whatever it is I was interested in or whatever I was passionate about. I want to make sure I did it my way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I wanted to make sure I did it my way. I didn't want to do it like anybody else, you know, I, I took, I took motivation. Other people were motivating to me, you know, but I was, I was self motivated. I didn't rely on, on seeing others do something and then I'd be like, oh my God, I got to do that. That's, that's one. One of the problems a lot of people have is with motivation, you also have to have discipline. The two go hand in hand. I have really, really, really good discipline when it comes to locking in on something and wanting to hit it, whether it be short term or long term. And that's something that a lot of people are lacking.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I'm not sure motivation, I'm not sure discipline is more important. I'm not so sure that discipline isn't more important than motivation.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because everybody, at some point in time, we all lose motor. Be not motivated to do something. But are you disciplined enough to still get up and go do it?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Get up and do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

There you go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Finn's NJ245. Who's coaching the Bills next year? Better job, Bills or Giants? Bills. Bills.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, that's easy. But they not find Mr. McDermott.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And 2366. So does it make B. Nicks the clutchest quarterback this season? He did with NFL MVP Josh Allen. Couldn't we want all the smoke in Denver? Let them know. Unk. Oh man, look here. And I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. I'm nervous because I've never seen the team have the best record in football, but the most punts in the NFL. That's not a great combination. It's really not. And you see the Chiefs last year The Chiefs were 15 and 2. Although they had an NFL record most consecutive wins and one score games. We winning a lot of these one score games. We ain't really blowing nobody out yet. I, I, I'm nervous, obviously. You know, I want the Cowboys to Cowboys. I want the Broncos to do well, but man, I'm nervous because Bo puts that ball in harms way too much for me, man. Nonres Cowboys really bench their two star receivers for going on. For going on a two. Man. Don't let the cuboid warriors raid bait you on Twitter and Ocho. Yo, we got the Bingo Guppies. Oh, prime time of the month. Love the show.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who you gonna go for, Ocho?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Who? When?

[Shannon Sharpe]

When the Bengals play the Guppies. Who are you going for?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm just watching the game. I ain't really going for nobody, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoa. Chase Joe Burrow, do you hear that? Let me ask you, Katie Blackburn, did you hear that?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, think about this. Hey, think about this. When Travis Kelce and Jason Kelsey played, who did Ms. Donna go for?

[Shannon Sharpe]

First of all, she had a son play on both teams. You didn't play on the Dolphins.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I did. That's my home team. That's where I grew up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You didn't play for that team.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I got paid.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They paid you training camp money?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, no, no. I signed. What are you talking about? I got traded. I got, I got a deal. I got paid.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You didn't get traded there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I did. Well, what have I got there? I got a big check. So therefore, whether I played it down or not, I got a little check and I still got it. So I played.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Daddy, first of all, I want to know who put you on financial independence, who put you on the road to financial freedom, whether the Guppies or the Bengals?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

My grandma.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Almighty James, two times. Nine, ten. Ocho, please stop. The Bingles aren't winning. They're not.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yo, and I'm sure y' all said the same thing when the goddamn Dolphins played the goddamn Bills two weeks ago. Everybody said that, too. You saw what happened, right? Yeah, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I saw what happened with a guy that threw for 40, that's thrown for under 100 yards five times this year. Beat y'. All.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who didn't? The Jazz beat y'? All?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah, that would look, you know, even a squirrel. Even a squirrel. Get another blue moon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Guess what? Y' all been unlucky. How many games y' all won this? Yo, Joe?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Three.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think y' all gonna be at three.44 silver future also mighty underscore Mike.01 man child, please. Shannon, stop disrespecting the Bengals. And Ocho we know the difference. The defense can't stop a parked car, but that offense is explosive. Yeah. How many games y' all went with that explosive offense? I just trying to figure out how many I gave y'.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Realist. Say, Ocho, did you install those lights yourself?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Which lights?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The lights you got on right now.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. No, no, no. These. What you call them? Little stand up. Little stand up lights that I stole from. From a commercial set.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mike. B2 time underscore. UNC need that 5900. Not 5900. 5900. Love y', all, man. Also, my alma mater, Texas Western, have a playoff game Saturday. Can y' all wish them good luck? That's right, Mike. Thank you. I need my money. And good luck to your alma mater, Texas Western. Oh, yeah, Texas Wesleyan. Hopefully you guys get that win. I'm assuming it's football. That's what I'm assuming. I don't want to be. I know it's presumptuous of me, but I'm gonna say it is football. Good luck, Mike. Mike Banks, 9. Which new era receiver compared to Chad? I say nobody. But I love the opinion of y'.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A birthday coming up, twin. January 9th coming up. Who you think, Ocho, who reminds you of you? Devonte? Jsn.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah, probably devonte. Probably the close. I would. Hey, I wish I could add my goddamn personality. And. And. And. And some of these boys, man, just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, that. That'll make them. You say you want to do things your way. Don't you want them to do it their way?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, but they. They not. They need to push the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no. What did they say, Babe, we wish you'd have been like Larry Fitzgerald, man. We wish you to be like Megatron.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, See, there you go. Thank you. Tito Davis said, oh, you from Chicago. You can rep the Bears and the Bulls. No, I rep the Ravens and the Broncos because that's who I played for. That's who put me on the road to independence. Ocho played for the Bengals and the Patriots.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, and. And the Dolphins.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope. You ain't playing for no dolphins. My 10 year.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What if I got a check? I played.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, my 10 year anniversary to my baby is coming up. Will you give her a shout out for me on December 10th from another super chat? Man, you ain't give us no name, but. Hey, Jerome Harris, baby want to give you a shout out. 10 years, man, that's a decade. Yeah, a decade of every day having those problem solved. Because every day she's not at her best every day you're not at your best and you guys have to problem solve and you know what? 10 years you guys been at this thing. Here's to another 10 years. Congratulations, Jerome.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That concludes this episode of Nightcap. As you watch the Houston Texans behind eight sacks, three takeaways. Take down the Buffalo Bills by the score of 23 to 19. I am your favorite UNC, Shannon Sharp. That is my partner and co host. That's Liberty City's own that's bingo ring of fame honoree, a former pro bowler and an all pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Ocho, I'd like to thank you, each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Make sure you head over to laportierconac.com if you cannot find shade by laportier in a state or city near you, just order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. The best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it. Try it for yourself compared against other cognacs and I'm sure you'll see what we're talking about. Please Drake responsible and be safe. Make sure you follow my media company on all of his platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat again. The Houston Texans behind eight sacks, three takeaways. Take down the Buffalo Bills by the score of 23 to 19. Davis Mills has done a great job. He's kept this. He's kept the ship steady. Kevin afloat. And we'll see if C.J. stroud can come back and keep it going forward. We'll see you Saturday. Back with our other third member, Johnny Manziel. After college football, I'm Unc. He's O. Joe. Thank you guys for joining us. Good night.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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