Nightcap - Hour 2: Jeanty falls short, Prime rips reports, Ward creates controversy

Summary

Club Shay Shay - Episode Summary: Nightcap - Hour 2: Jeanty Falls Short, Prime Rips Reports, Ward Creates Controversy

Release Date: January 4, 2025
Host: NFL Legend Shannon Sharpe
Produced by iHeartPodcasts, The Volume, and Shay Shay Media

In this engaging episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe delves deep into the latest happenings within the football world, focusing on three main topics: Jeanty's near-miss in breaking a historic rushing record, Prime's candid remarks about player preferences, and Ward's controversial actions that have stirred debate. The episode is structured to provide insightful analysis, passionate discussions, and expert opinions, enriched with notable quotes and timestamps for reference.

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1. Jeanty Falls Short: The Barry Sanders Legacy

Timestamp: [04:16] - [08:53]

Shannon Sharpe kicks off the discussion by addressing Jeanty's (likely referring to Aston Genti) performance against the Penn State defense. Genti was on the verge of breaking Barry Sanders' illustrious college rushing record but fell short, accumulating 104 yards—his season low.

Key Points:

• Genti's Struggles: Genti needed 131 yards to break Barry Sanders' record but was held to 104 yards by a formidable Penn State defense.
• Comparison to Barry Sanders: The conversation highlights Sanders' unparalleled college career, emphasizing his 2,800 yards and over 40 touchdowns, which set a high benchmark for aspiring running backs.
• Defensive Strategy: Penn State's defense effectively neutralized Genti, showcasing strategic prowess by limiting his yards after contact and overall rushing capabilities.

Notable Quotes:

• "It's his first time not rushing for at least 125 yards in a game this season. He finished 28 yards shy of breaking Barry Sanders." ([04:30] Speaker 4)
• "Barry didn't start. Thurman started. Barry read back punts and kickoffs... that's what you have to appreciate." ([08:20] Speaker 4)

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2. Prime Rips Reports: Shador and Team Preferences

Timestamp: [13:16] - [15:26]

The episode takes a turn as Prime, presumably a key figure in the football community, openly criticizes reports suggesting that Shador wouldn't want to play for the Browns or the Titans. This segment sheds light on the dynamics between players and team affiliations.

Key Points:

• Prime's Frustration: Prime expresses irritation over false reports tarnishing Shador's reputation and team preferences.
• Honest Conversations: He shares his personal interactions with Prime, emphasizing the need for direct communication rather than relying on inaccurate media reports.
• Protecting Reputation: Prime underscores the importance of combating misinformation to maintain the integrity and professionalism of players.

Notable Quotes:

• "He wouldn't want to play for the Browns or the Titans. It would be multiple idiots that will say things that totally aren't true." ([13:50] Speaker 4)
• "Don't want to chase lies. I'm not gonna shoot it down or try to refute it. Whatever y'all believe, run with that." ([14:29] Speaker 6)

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3. Ward Creates Controversy: Decisions Under Scrutiny

Timestamp: [25:39] - [28:54]

Shannon Sharpe and his co-host delve into the contentious actions of Ward, whose decision-making on the field has sparked widespread debate. The discussion explores Ward's choices during critical game moments and the repercussions thereof.

Key Points:

• Ward's Strategic Moves: Ward's decision to sit out managerial meetings and limit his playtime in the second half after achieving significant milestones has raised eyebrows.
• Coaching Perspective: Miami coach Mario Cristobal remains tight-lipped, preferring to keep his decisions regarding Ward private, which has only fueled speculation.
• Talent Evaluation: The hosts discuss how Ward's actions might influence scouts' perceptions and his future prospects in the league, emphasizing consistency and commitment as crucial factors.

Notable Quotes:

• "It's a terrible look. It's a good look." ([26:15] Speaker 4) – Reflecting the mixed opinions on Ward's decisions.
• "If you're going to play the whole game, you might as well finish it. Either you're in it or you're not." ([27:08] Speaker 4)
• "Scouts are gonna look at this decision unfavorably because it shows you took yourself out of the game." ([27:43] Speaker 4)

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Conclusion: Navigating Challenges and Celebrating Achievements

In this episode, Shannon Sharpe masterfully navigates through both triumphs and tribulations in the football arena. From celebrating near-record-breaking performances to scrutinizing controversial decisions and addressing media narratives, the discussion provides a comprehensive look into the complexities athletes face. Sharpe's insightful analysis, combined with passionate exchanges between the hosts, offers listeners a nuanced understanding of the current football landscape.

Listeners are left with a deeper appreciation of the dedication required to excel at the highest levels, the impact of strategic decisions on careers, and the importance of integrity both on and off the field. As always, Club Shay Shay serves as a vital platform for meaningful conversations that resonate with fans, athletes, and enthusiasts alike.

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Note: The timestamps and speaker attributions are based on the available transcript segments and may not correspond to exact on-air identifications. All opinions expressed in the episode reflect the genuine perspectives of the hosts and contributors.

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[Unknown Speaker 4]

Foreign State did not want Genti to get that record on their watch. Genti entered the game needing 131 yards of breaking the record, of tying the record 132 to break it. Barry had 2629 set in 1988. Penn State defense stifled Genty, holding him to A season low 104 yards rushing. It's his first time not rushing for at least 125 yards in a game this season. He finished 28 yards shy of breaking Barry Sanders.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

Hey, listen, they were popping young bull out there, man. They would let him have it. Now I thought, honestly, I'm just gonna be honest, honest with you. I didn't think he was going to do well against Penn State because the level of competition he was playing, playing at or with or against for that matter, in his conference. But he looked, he looked pretty, pretty, pretty goddamn good. Listen, yeah, he was breaking tackles. He ran hard, very hard after contact, you know, I'm not sure, I'm not sure how many yards he had after contact, but most of them he was hard to bring down. The first, the first guy never made the tackle. The first guy never bought him down for the most part.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Yeah, but like I said oh you look, you don't want that record. And my thing was, and I said this on first take, I said look, I know what Aston Genti is. Let me tell you what I'm going to do. If that quarterback goes out there and throw for 350 and three touchdowns, I'm gonna go to the middle of the field, shake his hand, say congratulations young man, good luck moving forward. But I refuse to let Genti run their ass to a victory that's not gonna happen. And they felt the quarterback couldn't beat them throwing the football and he couldn't. Because you know when you take that running game away because they wanted to give him the ball. But I thought. And the problem is they fell behind him. You fall behind on Joe. That game was about to get really out of hand. Had the quarterback Aller, he's doing the right thing by coming back because he's not very good. I don't think in my eyes watching him play the three or four games that I seen him play, he is average. He's an average. He's an average college quarterback. There's nothing special about him. But if he doesn't fumble that ball and they about to go up 20, 21 to nothing it this thing about to get out of here and now you really. And that's what happened. When you get ahead like that, guess what, you take him out of the running game.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

You don't have no choice now you got.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Yeah, but Genti, he ran hard but hey, give him state credit. They say we don't want you to break that record on us. And they did a great job of neutralizing him. Look, they need to go back and everybody that played in the bowl game they need to put, add those yards to the total. You can do it. Just add, just add Barry what he did in the Holiday Bowl. Just go look it up. Bear had like 225 in the Holiday Bowl. Bears record is really like 12 games, two 800 yards and like 40 plus touchdowns. They didn't count the bowl, see, they didn't count the bowl games back then Ocho like they do now. Bear had like 20 carries and they took him out. Bear could have had another 300 yard game. They talk about what they were letting taking Genti out. Go look at some of bad games and they, when they took him out, bear was having 300 yard games.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

That's crazy.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Look at what he did to Oklahoma. Look at what he did to Nebraska, what he did to Missouri. Go back and look at Barry Stance. Even if Jinte had A broke his record. The greatest college rushing season is Barry Sanders. I think it's one of the two best seasons in the history. Joe Burrow, that 5060 touchdown season and then Barry Sanders 2,800 yards and 40 plus touchdowns. Y'all, if y'all just go back and look at the numbers that Barry put up and you'll like, you'll get a better appreciation of Jabari Sanders college career. And his sophomore year he backed up Thurman Thomas. Yeah, Barry didn't start. Thurman started. Barry read back punts and kickoffs. Yeah, that's. Let that sink. Let that sink in. Many of you believe Barry is the greatest running back in NFL.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

He had to sit started one year. That's crazy. That's, that's crazy.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

It was, it was what Joe Burrow did that season there. You're probably not going to see it again because you're probably not going to be able to find two receivers like Chase and Jefferson. And then when you combine Marshall and then you had the tight end, Randy Molson, Thaddeus, you had Clyde Edwards Allaire, you had Joe Burrow throwing the ball. You had an offensive line that was the best in college football. You got the perfect storm. Yeah, and you get the perfect storm. You saw it. I mean, the guy threw for 60 touchdowns. That's 60. And look at some of the stats. What he did to Georgia, what he did to Clemson, what he did to Alabama. The Sugar bowl between the Georgia Bulldogs and the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame was postponed and senseless act of terrorism. And so before we get into the show, we want to have a moment of silence for those that were impacted in all the New Orleans that was impacted. The family, friends and loved ones of this senseless and tragic. So we want to take a few moments to pause to heartfelt condolences to those that were impacted by this. I know sometimes it's really hard for you to try to wrap your mind around something that's so senseless. I would encourage you to be vigilant but not be afraid. Go about your normal life. Because that's what terrorist cowards try to do. They try to put you in fear for your normal everyday activities. But we should not. We should be vigilant, but we should not be afraid. As we know there is something that a person that sits high or spirit or whatever you believe that sits high and looks low. He is the king of kings. He's the Lord of lords. He's the alpha and the Omega. He's the omnipotent one. And I know right now it's hard to understand, but I encourage God to give us all strength and understanding that what transpired Today to start 2025, someone wanted their moment, and they took the coward's way to do just that. To all those that's impacted all people, that lost loved ones, that lost family, that lost friends, the Nightcap crew, along with many others, sends our heartfelt thoughts and prayers. We pray that you gain comfort. We pray that you have understanding and end time. And only when you're ready. Hopefully, you find peace and solace in this. Ocho. My heart breaks. I can only imagine receiving the news that some people received that this had happened. But I do sincerely, in all my heart, believe there is a how, a power and a higher being. And we don't understand. Everything is not meant for us here to understand. But I do believe sunshine follows rain and it's really dark right now for a lot of people in New Orleans and for the city of New Orleans, because I know you're mourning. I know you're hurting, but just know you're strong and think about what you've already overcome from Katrina and a lot of other things that have happened in that city. You're built for this. We're built for this. And like all things, we'll get through this. Prime rips reporters that Shador wouldn't want to play for the Browns or the Titan. It would be multiple idiots that will say things that are totally aren't true. Regarding. I would like Shador and Shiloh to play in the NFL if I were to say it directly. To whom it may concern. Not an attention seeker. I don't know NFL commission personally. I do know. Oh, I do know NFL commission personally. Drop. He like Mike drop. Look, I hadn't talked to prime in a while because, look, he's getting ready for the bowl games. I don't want to bother. I'm gonna bother his ass now. He ain't got no bold game. Yeah, he got no bowl game to play for. So I'm bothering that tomorrow. I'm gonna call him tomorrow.

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I talked to Prime. I talked to prime yesterday, a day before yesterday. He was checking. He was checking on me, right?

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Yeah, about.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

About my situation. You already know what I'm talking about.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

I need to go in depth. He's like, everything good on there? I said, yeah, everything good. He said, man, I'm gonna hit. I'm hit. Unk. I was. I was waiting on my spirits to get back up because, you know, we lost. We lost the boat. So I. I needed a few days to myself. So, you know, he hit me and I thought I said, everything, everything is good. Everything's good. So you know what? I'm gonna come on there with you guys. You know, I was like. I said, I like, nah, don't come on. Don't come on. Let's save it. Let's save it for February 6th.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Yeah, let's save knock. All he want to do is clown me. Nope. That's all. That's all he want to do because that's all he do. When he called, he sent me a text. So. No, the thing is, in times like, dude, I think I read something where he said he had y'all forgot y'all was talking like this, but y'all forgot I got time today. The only thing I tell time is like when I'm going to 25. I ain't chasing no lies. Yeah, I'm not gonna chase it. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna shoot it down. I'm not gonna try to refute it. Whatever y'all believe. Run with that.

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It is what it is.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

It is what it. Now I'm gonna see how long it's go because that's one thing we know about a lie. Watch. Watch how quick it disappear. Yeah, watch how quick it disappear.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

You know. You know what I don't like too? Not getting back to prime. You know, door and whatever Reporter says, you know, he wouldn't want to play for the Browns. I mean, why even write something like that? It has. It has to come from somewhere or you just making it up.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

A lot of times people want to. Want to be the first to report something because if you're second, you know, the first man to climb Mount Everest, the first man to put a man put on the moon.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

Right.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

It's not the second. That's not the second guy to remember. It's the first guy. It's Roger Bannister that broke the sub 4 minute mile. It was element, Edmund Hillary and notice. And the sharper sherpa that scaled Mount Everest. Right. Who remembers the second guy? Ocho.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

Yeah.

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[Unknown Speaker 4]

Ocho the number 17 BYU Cougars defeated the number 23 Colorado Buffalo Buffaloes 36 14. Colorado was held at 210 total yards, only 2 net yards rushing. The Buffaloes were shut out in the first half while being limited to 61 total yards. They had 90 yards in the fourth quarter with the Cougars leading by 29. Shador was sacked three times through two interceptions. He passed for 208 yards, two touchdown while complete completing 16 of 23 passes. Travis Hunter had four receptions for 106 yards including a 43 yard touchdown electric touchdown in the third quarter.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

Talk to me. Cause BYU ain't no slouch boy at all.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

They're not a slouch, but you gotta have a better effort than this. They were never in the game. You give up. You give up a punt return for a touchdown, you give up an onside kick. It's Coach Prime's job to have this team prepared and ready to play better than what they showed up today. It's really that simple. Let's not make it. Oh they had a chance. No they didn't. After the first two series, Ocho, you knew Colorado didn't have no chance of winning this game.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

It looked as if they didn't belong.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

They didn't belong.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

As if they were the JD team and the JD team is scrimmaging against varsity for some reason. BYU just look, look faster. They look a little bit more dominant at the point of attempt. I'm like well something ain't right.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Yes.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

Okay.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

I thought Ocho, I thought exact same thing. I was like well damn circles around you. I was like.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

I'm like, wait a minute. Now, if my memory serves me correct. And I'm thinking I was old by BYU and not thinking of the new byu. You know, the culture over there has changed. The players over there have changed. And the boy flying around.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Man, I thought, hey. I was like, hey, I thought my TV had glitched. I said, they got them boys fast. I said, man, ain't no way they moving that fast. Man, that dude hit that cone on that. On that Ocho. That dude hit that cone on the point return. Is anybody gonna get close to him? And then. And then they kick. The fields come back with an onside kick. See, because you know what I see on film, I see when they kick the ball. Y'all leaving before the ball kick. Okay, we got a surprise for you, right? That's how you block a punt. That's how you block a pat. That's why you do on side. You study. Hey, the L3, the L4, they leave real quick before the balls even kick. They already turning to get back in position. We can hit on side, and that's the perfect time because guess what? See, if you down by five points in the fourth quarter, they expect. You're not expecting that in the first quarter, are you? That's why. Remember how New Orleans got the Colts in the super bowl with the on side. Open the second half with it.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

Hold on. Is it big?

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Yeah, but, Ocho, I'm watching this game. I'm like, dang. I'm like, damn. I say these DBs, they do it. They did these receivers up. I'm like, they in the hip pocket. And Colorado resorted back. Not. Not. Not staying on their blocks. And. And it was just. It was just bad. It was just bad. It was bad. I mean, it was bad. I think they had too much time. Look, they had a great season, but they def. Ojo. They had a great season. You didn't finish it like you wanted. I commend Shador for playing. I commend Travis for going out there and playing. Boy, I was like, I didn't rec, Ocho. I ain't gonna lie to you. I did not. This Colorado looked like the Colorado that lost to Nebraska. Remember, they lost to Nebraska early in the season on the road. Ocho and Nebraska opening, definitely.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

The funny thing about it, they look like a team that wasn't prepared, but non prime. And understand how he. How his preparation works in the time that he's put in with the players and having a great game plan, having a great scheme. They just weren't able to execute it the right way. And that's on the players. The onus of that is on the players. But obviously, the main problem where it would result, it would always point to the coach when you know that, not the fact. But, man, listen, they had a great. They had a hell of a season. I'm glad Travis, Travis, Hunter and Shador were able to come out healthy. I wish. I wish them all the best, too, man. I wish them all.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

That's it. Yep. You wanna. You wanna get the win? Somebody gotta lose. The thing I like about college football, now there are no more ties. There used to be ties in college football that sucked. Ties. Like kissing a pretty girl through a screen porch. You know what I'm saying? You got the screen up there and she on the other side. Ain't no lips touching. Ain't no nothing. I ain't trying to tie nobody. I don't want no tie. Tie your shoes. Damn sure ain't tied no football game. We don't go out there and compete, Ocho, for an hour, and then all of a sudden, okay, that's it, guys. Hell, no. But congratulations, byu. We don't want to take anything away from you. This is. Look, obviously we did a lot of covering of Colorado. Coach prime is a friend of the show. But you guys, y'all put it on him. Y'all opened up a can. They went with the purpose. They showed up, Ocho. They showed up. They showed up with the sole purpose of doing what they did to Colorado. They said, the world's gonna be watching Colorado, but make them remember us. We remember you, bro. We remember because y'all. Y'all did a number on them. Y'all did a number on them.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

Yes, sir.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Ocho. Cam ward says the NCA Division 1 mark with his 156 touchdown pass of the Miami loss, but doesn't come out in the second half. After the loss, Miami coach Mario Cristobal was asked about the decision for Ward to sit all meetings with player and decision like that. We made them private. We kept them private. So I prefer not to answer any questions as it relates to that. But I know he played his best while he was in there. Is it a good look or a bad look? When I think about it, I go first. It's a terrible look. It's a good look.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

The fact that he even played and he played. I'm not sure if something may happen in the first half where it kind of scared him away from wanting to play in the second half, but if he Played the first half. You might as well finish the second now. That's just my thought. I'm already. I'm. I'm already in there. I mean, yes. I'm just.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

You.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

You want to win the game, you play to win the game. If you. You don't want to leave your teammates hanging, if you're gonna start the game, you might as well finish it. Huh? I mean, that.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

That. That.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

That's just my thinking. Yeah. So I. I don't.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

I think everybody's thinking like that something might have happened.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

Something might have happened. You don't.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

I don't. I think he. I think he got out of. He's like, I'm unscathed in the first. I'm unscathed. I ain't gonna tell Faith. No, just don't play. Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

I mean, if you're gonna play it.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

All, just don't play.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

That's how I look.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

You gotta. And I think the thing. I agree with you, and I think scouts and I think pro personnel is gonna. You know, they're gonna look. They're not gonna look favorable upon that decision because they're saying if you're there, you took yourself out of the game. But the myth. Hold on, Ocho. But he said all meetings with players and decisions like that, we made them in private. We keep them in private. So I prefer not to answer any questions as it relate to that. If that was his decision, he would have said that was my decision, and we're gonna go with that. Clearly, it was not his decision because he doesn't want. Because he doesn't want the kid to look bad. I give him credit, but I think the most. The average person knows that the kid made a decision, and, look, that's his decision to make. But for me, if I start, I'm gonna finish. Either I'm gonna play the whole game.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Or I'm not playing.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

Listen, I kind of understand it, but I kind of don't. It kind of makes sense. But then when I sit back and think about it, it really doesn't either. What's the point of playing two quarters and not playing the second, you know? I don't know.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Thank you, Ocho.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

That's why I keep saying. I think something must have happened in the first half. That's why I keep saying that, because there's no way.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

It did happen. He threw three touchdown passes, and he didn't get hurt.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

That's what happened. As a competitor, once you're in that environment and you competing, ain't no way in hell you Coming out. Absolutely not. I mean just, it's just in your, in your nature. When you get hurt, they can bear you pull, they can bear you put. They can barely pull players out the game.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Right? I mean, for a guy, even if he's hurt, Ocho, he has to be really hurt where he feel he can't do his job or he's going to end up hurting himself or putting a team in harm's way. Other than that, the guys are not coming out. That's why they started having spotters with concussions, because guys wouldn't come out of the game or they would lie and say, nah, I'm good. But now they have. Because sometimes the one thing that we do know about this O.J. yeah, you do, sometimes you have to protect the action from ourselves. You gotta, you gotta protect us from ourselves. But for me, I think this is a bad look. I think scouts, it's going to be very interesting because I can assure you, you and I have always, we've been in those meetings at the combine where they go in there and they gonna say, son, tell us what you was thinking. Why didn't you play the second half? Now just, just so you know, your head coach is going to tell them. So don't go in there and think you pulling the wool over somebody eye. They don't talk, they know everything.

[Unknown Speaker 6]

But in his case, in his defense, when they turn the film on the entirety of the season, you know what you're getting outside of what he pulled the night in that second half. As a quarterback, any team that may need one in, it's a few of them up in them first five picks, you know what you're getting. As a quarterback, the volume.

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