Nightcap Hour 2: Jonathan Taylor has HISTORY day in GERMANY + Matthew Stafford MVP Frontrunner + Brian Daboll on the HOTSEAT? + Marvin Harrison Jr is UNDERACHIEVING

Summary

Club Shay Shay – “Nightcap Hour 2” (Nov 10, 2025)

Host: Shannon Sharpe | Guest/Co-Host: Chad Ochocinco

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Episode Overview

This Nightcap episode dives into a wild NFL Sunday, focusing on standout player performances and pivotal team dynamics. Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco (Johnson) break down Jonathan Taylor’s historic feat in Germany, Matthew Stafford’s MVP campaign, coaches and players under fire (Brian Daboll, Justin Fields, Marvin Harrison Jr.), and the unpredictable state of the league. The episode is rich with real-time reactions, unfiltered analysis, and deep football insights.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cleveland Browns’ QB Troubles & Team Direction [03:27 – 09:41]

• Dylan Gabriel’s Struggles:
  Shannon and Chad critique rookie Dylan Gabriel’s conservative play (“just checking the ball down”) and Kevin Stefanski’s commitment to him despite the Browns’ poor record (2–7).

• Browns tanking for picks?
  Shannon suggests Cleveland is content to “redo this thing” for better draft positioning, even if it means moving on from stars like Myles Garrett.

  “Cleveland ain't trying to win. We got…to stop expecting. Shador gonna come in there and try to win. They don’t want to win. They want to get draft picks.” — Shannon (08:43)

• QB Purgatory & Franchise Turnarounds:
  Discussion about the challenge of finding “the guy” at quarterback, referencing teams that quickly turned around after finding franchise QBs (Burrow, Allen, Mahomes, Herbert).

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2. Justin Fields & Jets QB Woes [05:16 – 16:43]

• Fields’ paltry passing yards (54 yds, 5 completions for 12 yds after removing one big play) leads Shannon to doubt his long-term viability:

  “I just don't see it ever working for Justin Fields.” — Shannon (06:10)

• Chad plays devil’s advocate, comparing Jets QBs (Darnold, Wilson), questioning whether failure is organizational.

• Both agree some quarterbacks thrive with a change of scenery, but the Jets’ environment remains QB-unfriendly—even Aaron Rodgers struggled.

  “A guy that got four MVPs…how did he look there?” — Shannon (16:05)

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3. Jonathan Taylor’s Historic Day in Germany [16:43 – 29:09]

• Taylor’s Stats: 244 rushing yards, 3 TDs vs. Falcons — his third career 200-yard game.

• Taylor joins elite company (Jim Brown, Adrian Peterson, Derrick Henry) with multiple games of 200+ yards and 3+ TDs; surpasses Edgerrin James for Colts TD record.

  “Jonathan Taylor Rams for 244 yards and three touchdowns as the Colts win 31–25 … He is definitely in MVP discussion.” — Shannon (26:08, 27:17)

• Colts Formula: Lambasts the offensive line for getting “their ass handed to them,” credits Taylor for carrying the team.

• Comparisons: Taylor’s season compared favorably with Saquon Barkley’s 2024, outpacing him on yards and TDs (by 2 yards and 7 more TDs after 10 games).

• MVP Possibilities:
  Chad: “If he gets 2,000 yards and say 25–30 touchdowns, he gonna be MVP.” — (27:28)

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4. Matthew Stafford: 2025 MVP Frontrunner [38:23 – 43:32]

• Stafford’s Stats: First QB in NFL history for 4 pass TDs/0 INTs in three straight games; leads league with 25 TD (only 2 INT).

• Praise for his continued excellence despite playing in a golden era for QBs:

  “He’s on pace to throw 50 touchdowns with four interceptions. … Unless somebody’s comparable to that, they’re not taking that award.” — Shannon (41:38)

• Game Dominance: Rams dominate 49ers, showing depth and versatility (“Every tight end for the Rams caught a touchdown…” — 26:49).

• Stafford vs. Taylor:
  Jonathan Taylor’s historic numbers are a threat, but Chad and Shannon expect voters to lean QB unless Taylor’s season is “out of body.”

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5. Breakdown: Other Team and QB Situations

Michael Penix Jr. & Atlanta Falcons [31:32 – 33:47]

• Falcons' O (12/28 for 177 yards, 0–8 on 3rd down) is “not gonna cut it.”
• Discussion moves quickly, setting stage for more scrutiny in upcoming games.

Drake May & The Patriots [44:15 – 47:05]

• Sharp focus on rookie dominance (May: 16/31, 272 yds, 2 TD, 1 INT), with high praise for why Kraft picked him as a franchise QB, even at the cost of parting with Belichick.

  “You sometimes gotta make hard decisions. Sometimes.” — Shannon (46:03)

• Offensive Line Woes: May sacked 34 times in 10 games (“On pace to get sacked 60+ times. It’ll break you, physically and mentally.” — Shannon 46:51).

Giants & Brian Daboll’s Hot Seat [47:17 – 54:03]

• Jackson Dart (QB) impresses with his running (“first QB ever with 1+ rushing TD in 5 straight games” 47:17).
• The offense drastically changes for the worse when Russell Wilson replaces him after injury.
• Daboll may be excused by Dart’s injury but momentum is “heading in the wrong direction.”

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6. Players Failing to Meet Expectations

Marvin Harrison Jr. Criticized [55:33 – 56:59]

• Despite high target share (12 targets, only 3 catches), he’s been dropping too many passes:

  “He too good to have those drops like that… your son gotta hold on to the ball, bro.” — Shannon (55:50)

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7. Seattle Seahawks’ Defensive Showcase, Run-First Win [57:57 – 59:56]

• Seahawks defense overwhelms Arizona (“5 sacks while missing four starters”), DeMarcus Lawrence scores two defensive TDs in the same half.

• Sam Darnold wins throwing just 12 passes, the run game dominates.

• Shannon and Ocho praise Seattle’s “real” defense and depth:

  “Seattle look good, man. On both sides of the ball.” — Chad (59:16)

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8. Jaguars Collapse, Texans’ Comeback [61:04 – 64:23]

• Houston rallies from 19 down; Jags lose their first game when leading by 19+ points (previously 53–0).

• Trevor Lawrence’s inconsistency remains an issue:

  “We keep saying he needs to be a little bit more consistent, and he ain't being consistent.” — Shannon (64:04)

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9. Carolina, Saints, and the Importance of the Offensive Line [66:44 – 69:39]

• Saints finally get their first win; Panthers/rookie Bryce Young continue to struggle (“eight of nine starts under 200 yds”).
• Camara and Olave led New Orleans offense.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If JT don’t win MVP playing like this, the league got a problem.” — Fan question, with Shannon and Chad lamenting the QB bias in MVP voting [72:59].
• Matthew Stafford’s “Aaron Rodgers-like” statline:

  “If he continues to put these types of numbers up, that MVP going right down there in LA.” — Chad (39:22)

• Chad on Marvin Harrison Jr.:

  “A little inconsistent. Little inconsistent.” (56:09)

• Chad on Seattle’s RB Charbonnet:

  “Remind me of Robert Smith when he was with the Vikings. Same running style, pants tucked in, pants high.” (58:33)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:27: Browns QB mess, Gabriel critiques
• 05:16: Justin Fields struggles – dead end in Chicago
• 08:43: “Cleveland ain’t trying to win” — draft talk
• 16:43: Jonathan Taylor’s day (244/3) introduced
• 26:08: Is Taylor the MVP front runner?
• 38:23: Matthew Stafford historic run, MVP case
• 47:17: Giants QB Jackson Dart, Daboll’s job security
• 55:33: Marvin Harrison Jr. needs to “catch the ball”
• 57:57: Seahawks defense, Darnold’s efficient win
• 61:04: Texans’ comeback over Jaguars
• 66:44: Saints/Panthers, Bryce Young’s future

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Final Q&A/Fan Section [72:27 – End]

• Discussion about MVP bias, favorite dream guests (Eddie Murphy, Oprah, Prince, Denzel, Trump), and lighthearted banter on food, family, and lifestyle.

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Tone, Language, & Flow

• The episode is casual, candid, and sometimes playful—reflecting the rapport between two retired football stars. Insights are frank and full of locker room flavor, but grounded in real football knowledge and experience.
• Both hosts are animated, with plenty of good-natured ribbing (“Boy, I tell you about black folk…”, “You need to learn to live a little bit, man!”).

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In Summary

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco deliver a potent, personality-driven breakdown of Sunday’s NFL slate, spotlighting historic performances (Jonathan Taylor), MVP chases (Stafford vs. Taylor), teams in disarray (Browns, Jets, Giants), and underachieving stars (Marvin Harrison Jr.). The conversation moves fast, but every take is rooted in honesty, experience, and legendary football insight. For fans who missed it, you’ll feel caught up—and entertained.

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Top Quotes & References

• “If JT don’t win MVP playing like this, the league got a problem.” [72:59, Fan Question]
• “Jonathan Taylor…he is definitely in MVP discussion.” [26:08, Shannon]
• “He too good to have those drops like that, man.” [55:50, Shannon on Marvin Harrison Jr.]
• “A guy that got four MVPs…how did he look there?” [16:05, Shannon on Aaron Rodgers and Jets]
• “This is the NFL, man.” [87:42, Chad]
• “We keep saying we need him to be a little bit more consistent, and he ain’t being consistent.” [64:04, Shannon on Trevor Lawrence]

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For more in-depth breakdowns, hit up the Club Shay Shay archive or follow Nightcap for daily wrap-ups from two of the game’s most outspoken legends.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpen]

It's the rage bait.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Shannon Sharpen]

People.

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[Shannon Sharpen]

Maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.

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[Shannon Sharpen]

The Browns lose to the jets by the score of 27 to 20. Browns coach Kevin Stefanski isn't ready to make a change at quarterback just yet. When asked by reporters if he planned to stick with rookie Dylan Gabriel as the team starting quarterback, Stefanski asserted Gabriel will remain at the helm after the loss to the Jets. Gabriel has thrown 869 yards, seven touchdowns, two interception in his rookie season. He led Cleveland to just one win with the game October 19th against the Dolphins and they are now 2 and 7 on the year. Ojo I just don't know how you're going to win games checking the ball down. I just don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I told, I told you before, listen, I, I love Dylan Gabriel. I love we was able to do it Oregon. But against in the NFL, if you're not able to throw inside of the hashes, inside of the, I mean outside of the numbers, if you can't make those throws like normal quarterbacks can do, you're not, you're not going to win games checking the ball down. You're just not. Unless you have elite superior talent around you, you're not going to be able to do it. You're not going to be able to do it. You're just not. I mean dude, he was what, 17 for 32, 167. He had two tees a day and for the Browns to have success, the running game has to be on. For the Browns to have success, the running game has to be slap ass on. It just has to because that's the only way you're going to be able to fool teams is with play action, low RPO and, and stuff like that. But just I, I at this point I don't know what's the fancy going to do. I think he's gonna, he's gonna continue to down this hill because they truly do not want Shador to get in there and start.

[Shannon Sharpen]

You lose a game in which the opposing quarterback goes 6, 4, 11, 54 yards, a touchdown and an interception. So you lose a game in which the opposing team did not have 200 yards of total offense.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's the NFL too. Now just mind you, this NFL.

[Shannon Sharpen]

They didn't have 170 yards of total offense and you lost. Yes, your special teams let you down. You gave a kick return for a touchdown and you gave up a punt return for a touchdown. But this is not the first time that Justin has thrown for less than 100 yards.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He did early, early in the season.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Ocho, let's be all the way.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wait, wait. Take your time now.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I just don't see it ever working for Justin Fields.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know. I have a question.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Can we play devil's advocate and think about all the quarterbacks that were there and it didn't work for them, but obviously they went somewhere else to the right situation and it worked. Allah. Sam Darnold, who was the number two. What? Third pick in the draft, who went to the jets for some reason, it just didn't work.

[Shannon Sharpen]

What you call with the double two pick in the draft? Wilson.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, okay. Yeah. Bingo. So maybe, maybe, maybe it's just the jets organization, they haven't had a good, competent quarterback since Broadway Joe. And you told me, you know, you told me Joe wasn't even that good.

[Shannon Sharpen]

He got more interception than touchdown passes. But that's not here. We're not here to talk about that. Oo. Justin Fields had 54 yards passing. 42 of those yards came on a play. Hey, so in other words, if we take that away, he completed five passes for 12 yards.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That don't even sound real. Honestly, you heard me.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Even on their worst day, Zach Wilson and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and Sam Darnold didn't, didn't look like this. Hey man, I don't know. I, I don't know what's going on. Maybe, maybe so. Oo. Maybe he got, maybe he needs to get out of there and go somewhere else too. Maybe, maybe. But it ain't gonna be there. It ain't gonna be there. But here's the thing. Oo, We've seen him. We've seen him in Chicago, We've seen him other places.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, he, he was, he was decent. He was decent in Pittsburgh. Now he was decent pick. The only thing that happened, he. I think they were 4 and 2. They were 4 and 2 when Russell Wilson came back, if I'm not mistaken, he was Playing extremely. But I, I was hoping. I was hoping. Finally, Justin Field gets his chance. He gets his team. Quarterback number one. You don't have to worry about anything except going out there and playing freely because you're not picking anybody over your shoulder. Nobody's coming to take your spot. It's as your. You are you. This is your team. Now's your opportunity to show people what you can do. And it's just. I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I, I don't either. Like I said. Hold up. Excuse me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bless you.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Cleveland.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Laughing at.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Oh, Lord.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What happened?

[Shannon Sharpen]

Boy, Cleveland.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's bad, huh?

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah. I mean, look, Cleveland ain't trying to win. We got. Look, let's stop. We got to stop expecting Shador, because Shador gonna come in there and try to win. They don't want to win. They want to get draft picks. They want to read. They're gonna redo this. Yeah, I mean, they're gonna redo this thing. And, and would I be surprised after this season if Miles Garrett said, yeah, yeah, I, I gave y' all a chance, but y' all not gonna do anything. Let me. You think they're gonna take them draft picks and rebuild? You gonna go, you gonna go 2 and 15 with it?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You might. Well, you might as well go 2 and 15 without him.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Miles will try to rebuild for the future and get, get three first round draft picks and, and, and, and, and go start over.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I. Listen, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't mind seeing Miles come on right down the street, man. Come on down there in Cincinnati now. Have a, have a, have a good old time with your boy. What you think about that?

[Shannon Sharpen]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Miles come on down an hour down the street and come on down here to Cincinnati?

[Shannon Sharpen]

No, first of all, you do know who you start. First of all, the Browns used to be owned by. Oh, yeah, I know the history.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know the history, but I'm just listening.

[Shannon Sharpen]

That ain't happening.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I can dream.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I don't. Look, I don't think there's no team in the AFC north that has a chance of getting Miles.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Gary, he'll be in here going, he going to the NFC for sure.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I'm get. I, I'm doing everything I can to get him out of the afc. Now, if somebody in the afc, hey want to offer three, three first round picks in a player I'm gonna have, long as it's not in my division, if it's in the AFC west or the AFC South, AFC east, somebody I'm only gonna see once every two Three years. Okay, I can, I can deal with that. But somebody I gotta play twice a year. Oh, yo. Oh, hell no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not. Listen, not, not that kind of player. Absolutely not. I don't want none of that.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But clean. Look, Cleveland's not that good, man. I'm, I'm happy for AG that he's put together two wins, but who's the worst team? Saints.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, is that, It's a toss up at a. Out of the Saints in the, in the jets, huh?

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yes, but the Saints only got one win, right? Yeah. I mean, the jets are 2 and 7. Cleveland's 2 and 7 Titans are 1.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, I forgot about the Titans. Hey, the, hey, the Titans been sliding right up under the radar. They've been slack.

[Shannon Sharpen]

They're gonna be bad. They gonna, they go, they, they, they trying to get that number one pick.

[Chad Ochocinco]

To get to and, and get what?

[Shannon Sharpen]

Something. Trade it and get some more picks. I mean, that's what you need to do. Ojo.

[Chad Ochocinco]

One thing about it, Boy, it's hell building a team. Boy, it's hell building a team.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Unless, Unless you get that guy. You see how quickly Cincinnati turned it around once they got Joe. You see how Buffalo turning around once they got Josh Allen? You look, the Kansas City was right there because they had Alex Smith. They got Alex Smith to the trade and they, but when they got Patrick Mahomes, what they do. Yeah, yeah, look at the charges now that they got Herbert. You see every year when you got that guy Ocho, if you got a guy, if you get a guy, you got a chance, because I can feel it. If I got the foundation, you just.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Going, you're going from there. That's the easy part. But that's the problem. And I don't think that the chat understands or understand how difficult. Even if you're a fan of football, I'm talking about, you don't understand how difficult it is. I don't how far. And few quarterbacks are good quarterbacks that you can just, you can lock in and say, you know what? This is my quarterback for the next decade, the next 15 years, and I can build around him. That is so difficult to find as the. I don't want to be disrespectful, but. Okay, you, you know what I'm trying to say?

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah, but I, I, look, I, I, I done, I ain't even, I ain't even thinking about it when they, I'm just waiting on them. When, when Mary Kay Cabbage reported that the, that Shador Sanders, when she reported then I'm then I, I, I worry about it but I'm not worried about it now because that it ain't happening. They seem to be hell bent on trying to prove that Dylan Gabriel can play. And he might. Hey, maybe we need to give him more time. He is a rookie quarterback but I just don't think they have enough pieces around him to support him. But hey, they believe in him. So that's all we got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I still can't believe that outside if you take away Breeze Hall 40 some yard run feels really hit. Was it raining? Was it raining that game?

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah, okay. Raining. I don't, I don't. It didn't look like it was raining at the beginning of the game but as it got later it, you know, it started coming down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. I'm. He only had 12. 12 yards.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah. If you take away that 42 yard.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. I mean even with the elements I played in ring games and you know, had over a hundred and when you think about it, just operating a simple offense, basic offense. I right, I left, I mean running.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Curl routes, out routes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean that's 12 yards right there. That's just one play. The fact how do you have something like that in four quarters of play again lets me know we're being cautious. Don't want to put the. We don't trust the ball in your hands. So therefore this is what we have to do.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

God damn.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Was basically the offense of their hundred hold up they had 40. So that, so 42 and 127. That's 169. Breeze hall had 125 of the 169 total yards. Nah, that, that's, Yeah, I, I just think Justin Fields need to go somewhere. Woody Johnson is not. It doesn't mean, doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter who, who, who plays quarterback. We've seen far too many. The only one that's had a little success for an extended period of time with Chad Pennington but nobody else. I mean Boomer, you got to go back to. Boomer had his couple of years there in the, in the 90s. You got to go back to Kenny O' Brien in the 80s but it's just like sporadic. It's, it's, it's, it's like kind of hit or miss. Vinnie came there and had a good year back in, what was that? 98. They went to the FC championship game. We beat him in Denver and then I think they had that historic comeback on Monday night. Remember they had that Monday that come back Again, it was against the Dolphins, I think Ocho. Yeah, but it's just, it's just not working for no quarterback. And, and if I'm a quarterback, I just dread going to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, hold on. It depends on the quarterback. You have to be him. You have to be a Lamar Jackson.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Aaron Rodgers was him how he looked.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh yeah. You know what? But look, look where he was.

[Shannon Sharpen]

So a guy that got four MVPs and it's a sports ballot hall of Famer could you know, you look at easier top 10 top 5 quarterback of all time. How do you look there?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what? When you put it like that. But this is the thing. How would a prime Aaron Rodgers look? He'd be fine because he can, he can elevate everything around him.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah, yeah. I mean but you think about what you're saying now. You talk about there. There. There ain't probably been 10 quarterbacks in the history of the game better than Aaron Rogers. So you talking. What's the likelihood of you possibly getting one of those?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not. Not likely. Not likely.

[Shannon Sharpen]

So I don't know what you're Ocho. I don't know if you saw this game this morning, but Jonathan Taylor runs for 244 rushing yards, three touchdowns.

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Okay.

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[Shannon Sharpen]

Savor responsibly and the Colts 3125 victory over the Falcons in Berlin is Taylor's third career 200 yard rushing day. Taylor is the fourth player in NFL history to have at least 200 yards Russian and at least three Russian touchdown in a game twice in his career. He joins Jim Brown, Adrian Peterson. Excuse me. And Derrick Henry. He moved past hall of Famer Edan James for the most rushing touchdowns in Colts history. Hey, he look I. For me, him and Matthew Stafford. It's hard for me to overlook Matthew Stafford and what he's doing. He's had three straight games where he thrown at least four touchdowns and zero interceptions. That's facts. I, I don't think he's throwing a touch interception in the last six games. And he got 20 touchdowns in the last six games with no picks. With that being said, Jonathan Taylor's carrying absolutely. Listen, Daniel Jones was doing his best job to get his game away. Oh yeah, he tried his damned. And Shane Stacking said, you know what? I got this workhorse man. Let me turn around man, let me take the ball at your damn. You'll hand the ball off.

[Chad Ochocinco]

JT they got damn Falcon defense was putting that pressure on buddy man. He's putting that pressure that, that they.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Got him seven times.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So obviously he was a little bit rattled, you know, trying, trying to process. He trying to sit back there and go through his goddamn reads. He getting hit in the head every goddamn time.

[Shannon Sharpen]

You know what Ocho? A lot of times is that, look, sacks are going to happen but they'll say just hold on to the ball. You can't every time they hit you let the ball go. Cause that's going to happen. And then the interception, I'm like what you. I give him credit. The old Daniel Jones at the Giants. I'm not sure he he's gonna stand there like he did today. But when you got that guy right there that is a threat. Anytime they hit his head on the goal post, they got him bottled up. He steps outside, pieced it out. I mean 244 rushing yards tack on another 42 yards receiving. Ocho, man had damn near 270 yards and.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Tyler Warren, I love this kid. Look, and this is not a knock on love lace. I think that's the. The tight end in Chicago, because I think they took him. Is it love lace or. Lovely, Lovely. But I like the Warren kid.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nice.

[Shannon Sharpen]

He is sensational. He'll he a go getter. I, I love his game. Watching him at Penn State, I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He, he, he. He the real deal. I, I love his game. JT's over 1100 yards, 1139 rush yards and 10 games. So he got seven games to go. Eight.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Eight. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpen]

Oh, they got. No, no, they got. They already played 10. They got 7, 17 games. Yeah, they. They. They haven't had their bye week yet. I don't think so. That's why they got 10 and the Falcons have only played three. I mean, only played nine.

[Chad Ochocinco]

See.

[Shannon Sharpen]

But they. They. These tight ends, man, they just. The tight ends. Oh, they just got more tight ends to do it. They just got more. They were just back in the 80s, and you have one or two. You had Ozzy and Kellen, and then in the 90s, you had. You had Jay Novichek for a couple of years, and then Ben. Ben coast and myself, you had Star. I know. I don't know. I know the Patriots fans, you guys will remember Starving, Marvin Cook, but for the most part now, it was always like one or two, maybe three on the high end. Now you got McBride, now you got Hawkinson. Now you got. Now you got this kid Warren. You got Lovely Loveland. You, you, you. You got just so many guys. You got, you know, you got a Mark Andrews, you got a Travis Kelsey, you got a Rodney Gas. I mean, you just got so many guys. Ocho, you got a Brock Bowers, you had Craft that ended up tearing his knee for the Green Bay Packers. You have so many guys now that can do it that it doesn't even seem special anymore. It seems special when there's only a handful of guys doing it. Now you got a bunch of these guys can do it. But, man, he was. Man, he was. I was like, damn. But he's definitely in MVP discussion.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Taylor, Jonathan, John. You talk about Jonathan.

[Shannon Sharpen]

How many. How many yards did. Can we. Can you figure out how many yards Saquon had at this point last year, 10 games into the season? So. Cause he damn sure got to be on pace for 2000.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he should be. Absolutely. If.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Hold on. In 10 games, he has 1139. So he's averaging like 113 yards a game. So. 113 times seven. What would that give him? Would that give him that? Give him 2,000. Yeah, we forgot about Kittle.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I. I said it. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Okay. Hell, I mean, we're gonna talk about the Rams in a minute. They threw a touchdown. Every, every. Every tight end for the Rams caught a touchdown. But me, hell, I was like, call my old ass out of retirement. Throw me one damn 49ers. Y' all gonna cover anybody Titan pinch him something? Yeah, I'm like, damn. They were like. They was giving that touchdown like Oprah gave our car that time. You get a car and you get a touchdown. You get a touchdown. But Taylor, man, he is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He ball. He balling.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I think Jonathan Taylor has 1139 yards.

[Colin Cowherd]

Wow.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What happened?

[Shannon Sharpen]

So he's two yard. He's two yards ahead of what Saquon was at the same time last year. But he got way more touchdowns than Saquon had. I think this. I think he got like 15 touchdowns already. Yeah, he got a chance to get. Lt's record. Yeah. No, so if he averages he's got 15, he can get 25. I mean, you get 25, they're gonna seriously, seriously give this guy. If he gets 2, 000 yards and say 25, the 30 touchdowns, he gonna be MVP.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That, that, that, that is. That is a possibility. It would have to be a quarterback to come on and just have a crazy surge the last eight weeks. They have to have a crazy surge. And if they did, because.

[Shannon Sharpen]

What? Go ahead.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There is one. It would probably. I would say it would probably be Matt Stafford, especially if they keep winning.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stafford. Stafford. Definitely Stafford. Stafford. Drake may.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But Drake. Drake may balling up, but Drake. Drake may have ball. He wheeling and dealing around in New England.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Boy, wow. Jonathan Taylor has two more yards on eight fewer carries than what Saquon had at the same time last year. But he has seven more touchdowns.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Crazy.

[Shannon Sharpen]

So. And we know what we was thinking about Saquon at this point in time. And the thing is, you can't stack the line because they got a confident quarterback and they got receivers that can go get the football. You got a Tyler Warren, you got a Pierce. You got a Michael Pittman Jr. You got downs. You. So you got guys. You can't just play eight in the box. You really try to leave these guys one on one outside?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no, no, not at all. So, hey, the funny thing about it is, when you watch film, you see Taylor have games like he had last week. Hell, we in week 10, you already know where the ball is going. And he's still getting off and do what he wants to do. And I think there is a healthy balance. Obviously Daniel Jones was a little shaky today. He was a little shaky last, you know, last week. But outside of that, since week one, he's been really good throwing the ball through the air. He's been, he's been really, he's been really good at it. So there's a healthy balance that they do have. Despite Jonathan Taylor having an impeccable season thus far, teams are going to prove. All right, you're gonna have to beat us through there. We not allowing you, we're not allowing you to run the ball. If we have to run a goddamn 46 bear defense, you finna throw that goddamn ball.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah, well, that's what's gonna happen. But here's the thing, the thing that concerns me is that they're right. The tackle's been getting the ass kicked. Either the tackles, their tackles been getting their ass.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who the hell is that? Goddamn left tackle.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Hell, the right with the Smith. I forget the left tackle name.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But, but both of them, not just the left one, the right one too.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Both of them had got their ass handed to them today.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Oh, this is indie schedule next week. Oh, okay. Here's indie schedule at Chiefs, Texas at home at Jags at Seahawks, 49ers at home. Jags at home at Texas.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that, that Chiefs game, they need to be, they need, need to be able to move that to a prime time game depending on what time it is.

[Shannon Sharpen]

It's the morning game. It's a 1am game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. That's one supposed to be.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I'm looking. They got the colts play the 49ers. That's a Monday night game. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Chiefs play the Broncos next week.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, y' all finna get Molly walk. Hey, but y' all finna get Molly Wap boy.

[Shannon Sharpen]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Ain't happening. But the Colts moved to 8 and 2, number one seed in the AFC currently thanks to a 3125 overtime victory over the Atlanta Falcons. Ocho, we gotta talk about Michael Penix Jr. What you thinking Ocho? 12 or 28 now he had a couple of drops. Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Drake. Drake. London back and they found the end zone again today. You, you, you're not liking what you seeing from you on. Hold on, I would just, I was just on that game. Okay, there it is.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Me. I mean you think about the guys that. Okay, obviously Caleb Williams playing. We're going to talk to him about him in a minute. Playing extremely well. Drake May playing extremely well. He's in MVP discussion. Jane Daniels last year offensive rookie of the year, played well, got to get healthy, got to be able to stay healthy. Bo Nicks having to be playing on a great team, especially defensively. Who else was who? What other quarterback was taken? Oh, J.J. mcCarthy. I mean Ocho 12 of 28, 177.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He had a TD. The Drake, I mean, I mean they.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Ran the ball 29 times for 140, 140 yards. Drake, London Cook, Kyle Pierce. I think he can get more involved. Mooney had one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He dropped it to Bijan, has 17 for 84.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah, I mean look at the, I mean look at the numbers. They averaging four over four yards of carry, averaging five damn near five yards of carry. We, we'll revisit this in a couple of weeks.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They were. Oh, they were over eight on third down. Yeah, that ain't gonna cut it.

[Shannon Sharpen]

No, I mean, Mooney had one catch on eight targets.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Ocho.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

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[Shannon Sharpen]

Continue to make a case for the MVP. The Rams are now 7 and 2 tied for the best record in the NFC with just a half a game behind the NFL's best record. Stafford against the 49ers was 24:36, 280 passing yards, four touchdowns. Stafford is the first quarterback in NFL history with four passing touchdowns, zero interceptions in three straight games on the season. Stafford leads the NFL in passing touchdowns 25 and is touched down to interception ratio. What does he have one one interception now? It's also the best of league. Stafford has never won an MVP award. Also played in the era with elites like Tom Brady, Pton Manning and Aaron Rodgers. Only season he's ever received an MVP vote was 2023 when he finished 8 of 10 players. And one year he should have got some MVP votes because he threw for 5,000 yard. Huh? Three. Oh, he so he got 25 touchdowns. Ooh, two interceptions.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that them Aaron Rodgers numbers boy. Thank you. Hey, them Aaron Rogers number. I know, I know Jonathan Taylor's playing well right now, but if he continues to put these type of numbers up, well, you know where that MVP going, it's going to be right down there in la.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, this game was over early. This game was over early. It was 21 zip with 13 minutes left in the second quarter. If you playing Madden, the game is over. You gotta pass the sticks.

[Shannon Sharpen]

It was over. That what the. The turnovers killed him. I mean Juwan Jennings, Mac Jones. Mac Jones was 33 of 39, 319, three touchdowns, one pick. This is not hindsight. I said, I said the 49ers should have stayed exactly where they are and took Mac Jones. Oh, he said stay where? Right where you are and take Mac Jones. You don't have to give up that draft capital and but that's. Hey, that's story to be told another day in time. George Kittle 9 catches, 84 yards of touchdown. Juwan Jennings 6 catches, 71 yards touchdown. Christian McCaffrey had 8 catches, 66 yards. They didn't run the ball really well today. The Rams kind of got after him a little start in the run game but Matthew Stafford's dealing when you got Puka and you got Devontae still rotting.

[Chad Ochocinco]

People up, they were cooking.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Parkinson tight end touchdown Allen touchdown. They, they look they're good. The Rams are good and I tweeted no Joe are We sure. Are we certain the Rams and the Seahawks aren't the best two teams in football? Are we certain that's not the case? Because we saw, we saw, we saw Seattle Monday night. No, we saw them. Was it Sunday night when they beat the brakes off the commanders. And we know that. And then we, they turn around and do it. I mean, they have 35 at 1/2 and 35. I mean 73 points and 2 halves.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Is there anyone ever that that would want to argue the fact that they are not the two best teams, regardless of AFC or nfc? I mean, who would argue that fact?

[Shannon Sharpen]

People might say the Patriots, somebody still might believe the Lions, you know, you know, but based on what I've seen, the consistency wise, I think for me those are, I think those are the two best teams for me. But Stafford. But for me, you know, Drake May, and I think Drake May is playing unbelievable, but his numbers aren't comparable. I mean, you go look at Stafford, he's on place to throw, so he has eight games to go. So he's on pace to throw 50 touchdowns with four interceptions. How many yards does he have? So he's going to be over 4,000 over 4,500 yards. Unless somebody's comparable to that, they're not taking that award for now. If Jonathan Taylor saves gold rush for 2100 yards and 25 touchdowns now, I think it's going to be a very close race.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's gonna be a conversation. Uncle, you. You know how the NFL is this, you know how it is. I think it would have to be an historical, historical number for them to take it away from a quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah. And the thing is, I mean, and because there he's, he's putting these numbers out here because remember Ocho, the game against Jacksonville, he had five touchdowns and didn't have 200 yards passing. So he's putting, he's putting up these numbers and he's not having to do a whole lot late. They just running the football. Kyron Williams corn, you know, 30 carries, a buck 26. Nice, smooth, easy. But now Matthew Stafford looks good. He's looking good as at any point in time these ever look Rams gonna be tough. I can't wait when the Rams play Seattle again.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Rams in Seattle.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Oh, the Rams play Seattle next week. Oh, is that. Is that a Fox game or the.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It got it gotta be.

[Shannon Sharpen]

That's what I'm saying. I'm asking when do they play them.

[Chad Ochocinco]

In la?

[Shannon Sharpen]

And then that's gonna be December in Seattle. That's gonna be a good game next week. Gonna be a game. Is it a Sunday? Is it Sunday night? Is it a Monday?

[Chad Ochocinco]

One o' clock.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Afternoon? Late game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpen]

And then prime. So Thursday in mid December.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh.

[Shannon Sharpen]

No. I like to see these guys fully, fully healthy. Oh, Joe. The Buccaneers lose to the Patriots by the score of 2823. Trayvon Henderson. Hey, that Joe, right? I said, hey, y', all, can I score? Y' all want me to score? What y' all want me to do?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I've never seen anybody check with the coaches on the sideline, running full speed to make sure it was okay.

[Shannon Sharpen]

But he looking at his. It ain't his sideline right here.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He looking way over there.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Because most of the time, you know, if they want you to go down, everybody be doing this.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He saw the closest.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Drake May was 1631, 272 touchdowns, one interception. Travion Henderson, 14 carries, a buck 47 and two long touchdowns. He had one his longer 69. That was the one. He was looking see what was really going on. He took another one to the house. Max old barefoot Mac, six catches, a buckle four. Williams, one catch, 72 yards. House call. Stefan Diggs on fourth. I think it was fourth down. He ended up catching the touchdown. Five catches, 46 yards and a touchdown. A Mecca Buka, six catches, 115 touchdown. K dot, nine for 82. Terence Johnson, 4:42, two touchdowns. They ran the ball decent. 21 carries, a buck 13. Baker played exceptionally well again, 28, 43, 273, three touchdowns.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Drake. Drake.

[Shannon Sharpen]

What? What does Drake May numbers look like?

[Chad Ochocinco]

But wait, you mean you.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Now you understand why Mr. Kraft had to make a decision? Yes, Gerard Mail. I got the job. But this guy's just too good. I don't want anybody else to get him. You sometimes you got to make hard decisions sometimes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, if I was braver, I would have. I would. I would have hoped. I'm not sure how that how their relationship is. I would have made sure to have Mayo part of that team at. Part of the coach staff.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Well, he got sacked. We know he got sacked five. At least five times in the Cleveland game because Miles Garrett got him all five. Got it five times. Oh, that's a lot. In 10 games, he's been sacked 34 times. Shoot. So he's on pace to get those. Get sacked over 60. We got 35 today, including today, so. Man, he's on pace to get sacked 60 plus times.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, what's. What's David Carr record again? Sack, 76.

[Shannon Sharpen]

You don't want to be you don't want to be messing with that. They'll break you. They're break. They'll break you physically and mentally.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Absolutely. But that's a lot of hits, huh? That's a lot. That's a lot. It's a lot. A lot of wear and tear, especially for a quarterback. Only in his second year.

[Shannon Sharpen]

The Bears rally past the Giants for 2420 win. The Giants lost another winnable game dropping the 2 and 8 this season and calls for Brian Day Ball's job has officially begun. Before leaving with concussion, Jackson Dart scored two touchdowns on design runs, becoming the first quarterback in NFL history with at least one rushing touchdowns and five straight game. Ocho by choosing Dart over Russ. It looked like Day ball brought himself some time but has the momentum started. Day Ball gonna say. You know what he's gonna say. Oh, when my guy was in there we had to lead and I don't mean no did. Look Ocho, we played. We got 20 plus years. We got two decades. The offense, the defense, the coaching staff don't believe in Russ. You saw the momentum shift the moment he came into the game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Everything changes, huh? You have, you have two different type of players, therefore you got to call the offense two different type of ways depending on who you have at the helm. That's it. That's just, that's just the way it is. Two, two different dynamics, two different players, two different skill sets. You have to call the game completely different. The things Dark. Dark and do. Russell Kane.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Not anymore.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean yeah, he, he once was able to move like that and extend plays and, and hocus pocus as they. As they call it, you know, and. But he, he's just not that guy anymore. He's not that guy anymore. No, that, that sucks.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Caleb Williams 2036221 touchdown. They ran the ball 28 times for 171 yards. Roma Dunes 10 targets, 6 catches, 86 yards a touchdown. Loveland, 4 catches, 55 yards. Luther Burton III 3 catches, 51 yards. Caleb Williams was. Now you see understand why they took.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It with the first remind me of myself.

[Shannon Sharpen]

He. I wish he was a little calmer in the pocket. He doesn't. He's not as comfortable as I would like to see him in the pocket because he can make a lot. He can make throws on the move but eventually in order for you to. To win consistently and win championships, you're gonna have to be able to throw the ball from the pocket.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Hey, you're gonna have to be able to do that. But Jackson dart was playing well, 19 or 29, 242. No touchdowns nor interception, but he had two Russian touchdowns and he had six carries for 66 yards. Ocho, I told you this, man. I like to see my quarterback. I like to see my quarterback run.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He got it. He got to minimize that on. He got to minimize that. He's taking. He taking too many hits too early. You take a too many hits too early. Listen, I know you want to prove yourself. You want to show. Hey, I'm tough, too. I'm. Hey, I'm. I'm gonna bring it to you. You don't got to do that, man. Make. Make a. Make a sound, wise business decision. Go ahead and slide. Go ahead and step out of bounds. Don't take. Don't take nobody on. Enough is enough. Enough. Enough is enough. You're. You're too exciting. And you are the one player. You are the one player offensively that gives the Giants fans hope. It gives your coaches hope that we can do something with him at the helm when he's healthy. You can't do nothing sitting on the bench. You can't. He. You got. He got to protect himself. He got to get out his own way. And his coaches have to call plays to protect him. Himself from him.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Well, they call them design runs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

My point exactly.

[Shannon Sharpen]

So if you don't. If you don't care about your quarterback running, I don't care about hitting his ass. It's the same thing. Look, it's the same thing they said about. Said about Cam. If you want to run your quarterback on quarterback power, I'm gonna treat him just like he a running back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, but this net. Two. Two different. Hey, two different situations. Jackson D. Ain't built like Cam at all. No. Nowhere near.

[Shannon Sharpen]

And even. And even. Even Cam, you can't take them lick. You can't survive taking them D tackles. Those linebackers, everybody teeing off. I don't care how big you are.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, boy, you.

[Shannon Sharpen]

You're not. You're not going to survive taking those. Those hits like that. And the thing is, I'm not so sure Jackson Dart's gonna be able to come back because they've already gotten fined. There have been so many times that he got dinged and they rushed him back into the ball game. Remember last time? They find the Giants, they find Brian. I. I believe this is a situation. Ocho, he might have to miss a game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Probably. Probably. Especially when they ball went in that damn tenth behind him, trying to see when he was coming out to make sure they don't he went there today, last week when he got fine.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Oh yeah, a couple of, a couple of times because remember one time he wanted to call time out to be able to see okay, what's he gonna, you know, is he okay? I mean does he have to miss a play, miss, you know, a snap?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now you, now you see how important he is. Now you see how important he is Offense.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I, I, I think they, they realize how important it was. That's why, that's why they, they traded. That's what they did what they did to get it. He was their guy. They identified him very early on. That was their guy. It seems like a great decision. He's played really well. He's, he has an infectious personality. The dry the Giant fandom loving and if you win, if you win those over you get you buy yourself some time and I thought Brian Dabon had bought himself some time with Jackson dart because he's playing well. They, they should have won the game against Denver. They should have won the game. They had the Saints and then they just started turning the ball over pick sixes and scooping scores. But I think I, I do think they found the quarterback with Jackson Darth I just Gardner Johnson let him attack. He had two sacks too. CJ Gardner Johnson. I don't know what it is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He plays well everywhere, every single wear. I don't, I don't understand, I don't understand what's wrong. What issues they always had with nephew but what when he on that field. Well, he gonna give everything you looking for. Everything.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah, I mean he had two sacks. Montes Sweat had a sack and a half. But I, I look the Bears, the Bears are going to be good. I mean they're six and three. Ocho, they're six.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Crazy, crazy. Crazy how everything flip flipped right around, man.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah, they're six and three. Get the right coaching the Giants remaining schedule. Packers at home, Lions on the road. Patriots on the road. Commanders at home. Vikings at home. Raiders on the road. Cowboys at home. Tough one there, man. Oh, that's, that's, that's a. They play the Patriots and they play the Patriots on a Monday night that's coming up soon. December 1st.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh yeah.

[Shannon Sharpen]

December 1st. Oh. DeMarcus Lawrence has scores two defensive touchdowns on plays that seem so similar to each other. Same guys forced to fumble. D Law. Johnny on the spot picks it up. But D Law returned two fumbles for touchdown. Became the sixth player and the sixth player since at least 1991 with two defensive touchdowns in the first half of a game. Seahawks finished with five sacks while playing with our edge of starters, Julian Love, Josh Job, Ernest Jones IV and Jaren Reed. They got it. They. They got after Jacoby.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpen]

They got it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Ocho, me and you talked about this. Marvin Harrison Jr. Gonna have to start catching the ball. It's really that simple.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he's been.

[Shannon Sharpen]

It's really that simple. Ocho, he too good. Ocho, he too good to have those drops like that, man. He too good. And his dad say the offense not flowing and so forth song. But, but, but. Hey, Marv, your son gotta hold on to the ball, bro. He does. He does.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A little inconsistent. Little inconsistent.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Jacobi Brissette was 22 or 42. 258, two touchdowns, got sacked five times. How he ended up with numbers like this, I don't know. Because, hell, seemed like every time in the first half, he dropped.

[Chad Ochocinco]

McBride had a day. McBride had not McBride.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Well, McBride. I mean, look, he wanted another tight ends. Nine catches above 27, one touchdown on 13 targets. D. Mercado, three for 40 on four catches. Marvin Harrison Jr. Three catches, 12 targets.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, they were trying to get in that rock, bruh. They were trying to get in that rock.

[Shannon Sharpen]

If they throw it to you, you can't throw it back at them. I mean, we got to be real. Chad, y'. All. Y' all watch the game. He drops a lot of passes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He does. Hey, it was 350 in the second quarter. Yes, it was 8 minutes left in the second quarter. It was 35 0. This is the NFL game. I mean, when they. Listen, when Arizona played the Cowboys last week, man, we was hooping and hollering, excited. Oh, they're probably not going to start Kyler Murray. They felt Jacoby Brissette was the better option going forward. He looked good, but you see what happened when you go against a real team with a better defense, where they bet with a real defense and they coming. They coming to get you. You got. You got two, maybe two and a half seconds to get that ball out your hands. And that's. That's about it. And that. That, hey, that's Seattle offense.

[Shannon Sharpen]

They didn't have to do my Ocho. Sam Darnold was 10 to 12 for 178 yards.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpen]

This bad. Threw this man. Threw the ball 12 times. Ocho in the NFL game, it won convincingly. It wasn't even that close. They ran the ball 46 times for 198 yards. Charbonneau had 14 carries for 80, 83 yards. Kenneth Walker III had 14 for 67. But Jackson, Smith and Jigba, 5 for 93 in a tub. Cooper Cup 2 for 74. That was, that was the damage right there. That was seven for 167 right there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Charmino, remind me of Robert Smith when he was with the Vikings. Yeah, same, same running style. Pants shirt tucked in, pants high.

[Shannon Sharpen]

The thing is, oo this game wouldn't. They might have scored 60 if. If Sam Darnold holds on to the. If they don't fumble, they don't fumble the ball. And then he turned it over. This game, this game could have easily been 50 to 50 to 10, 50 something, whatever.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The coaches would have been fighting on the field after the game if they, if they ran that score up like that.

[Shannon Sharpen]

They wasn't running up. Oh. All they had to do was not turn it over.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That was a good game. Hey, Seattle look good, man, on both, both, both sides of the ball.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Seattle look good, man. They look good. Their defense get after you and they have, I mean, think about how many starters they had. Julian Love, starter Josh Jo, starter Ernest James, Ernest Jones, the fourth starter, Jaron Reed. That's four starters. And they put. And they did had a performance like this today. They good. They good. They can run it, they can throw it. They can get out the quarterback. They, They're. Hey, and now they got Wolen and they got Spoon.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Spoon. Nice.

[Shannon Sharpen]

They. Hey, we'll find out a lot next week because they got the Rams. They ain't gonna be put to the test because you got. Hey, you got devonte and P. Where.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They, where, where they playing at?

[Shannon Sharpen]

In, in la.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, let's go to the game. I, I, I, I hit. I hit stand. We can get, we get, we get courtside.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I'm good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you don't. Well, you don't never want to hang out with me. Boy, I tell you. Boy, I tell you about.

[Shannon Sharpen]

No, I don't want to. I don't want to hang out at the game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I tell you about black folk. Well, y' all be, y' all be killing me.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Hey, I told you I'm coming down to visit you in the off season.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Why we gonna wait all the way to the off season?

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah, we working now, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You need to learn to live a little bit, man. You could come down here right now, we could do the show, you know, like in, in the same. In the same house. I think the people would love to see that, you know?

[Shannon Sharpen]

You know, I don't think they love side by side. And plus, I, I got to, you know, I got to take a few Trips. I got to do some stuff for some other stuff so I got to say I got to save my. I got to save. Save my.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, okay. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Ocho backup quarterback Davis Mills and the Texans overcame a 19 point fourth quarter deficit to stun. The Jags is the second largest comeb franchise history, only behind the 21 point comeback win over the Chargers in 2013. It's the first time the Jaguars had led by 19 points in a game and lost. Before Today, they were 53 and 0 in such games, including the playoffs, and were the only current NFL franchise that had won each such game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Man. Trevor Lawrence, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey. Huh? He's the answer. But he had a bad day today though.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah, but far too many of these. Remember. Remember the Rams game over there? What were they in London?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpen]

He stung that one up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He stung it up. He just need a little bit more.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Because Ocho 13 or 23, a buck 58, they barely had. They barely had two and I don't know, they had 23 yard passing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that. That fourth quarter was bad, huh? But the Texas outscored The goddamn Jaguars 260 in the fourth quarter, one quarter.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah, that. That how we did that. How we did. You know, we scored 33 against it in the quarter. 33 in the fourth quarter. We were.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How many possessions y' all had? Three or four.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Don't worry about it. Enough to score 33.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They must turn. They must have turned the ball over twice.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I tell you what. I know what we did to. The more them Bangles who.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I was. I wasn't playing, was I?

[Shannon Sharpen]

We the one that got Jake Browning on the bench, made him trade for Joe Flacco. Here's where you lost the game at jags. Texas was 10 or 15 on third down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, super, super duper efficient. Super duper efficient. I'm trying.

[Shannon Sharpen]

They had 69 plays, you had 55 plays. They had 11 drives you had. But they averaged six yards per play. You averaged 3.9.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's Cree. Oh, 26.

[Shannon Sharpen]

See, like Jags. The Jags spent a lot of effort to beat the. Beat the Chiefs. Remember? They had to go. Didn't they go to overtime to beat the Raiders last week?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man. Triple Lawrence. Yeah, just a little bit more consistency. That's it. A little bit. A little. A little bit more consistency.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I get it. But we. We've been at this for a while now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpen]

We keep saying we need him to be a little bit more consistent, and he ain't being consistent.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not. Not at all. He's Not. He's not playing well, he's playing. He's too up and down. You don't know what Trevor Lawrence you're going to get, but he got all the talent in the world. He got all.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Oh, they did. He can make every throw. He's athletic, he got all intangibles, got a big time arm.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Exactly what you look for in a quarterback, a franchise quarterback. But you just want them to have a strength, be able to put him back to back, Put him back to back to back to back to back to back to back. If you're gonna have errors, let's minimize them. He's have. He's having one too many. One too many. There's. There's no way a team is supposed to be able to come back in a game like this and score 26, 26. As a quarterback, you supposed to give me my best chance to win. Not just win, but at least compete week to week. You playing it, playing against the backup quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpen]

But that defense, man, they. Hey, they saw that. Hold on, man. We stopped and we got a touchdown. Hey, let's hold them again. Let's hold, man. A. Anderson Jr. And the guy they got from Minnesota, what's his name?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, nice boy. Hey, they coming. They coming to the party, Invitation or no invitation.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah. Remind you of somebody else you know, huh? Benito Obrago, Country Obanito. Zach Allen Cooper. Yeah, we still ain't got nobody. Hey, we ain't got nobody within 10 sacks of us. And we don't have. Hey, we do it might catch you. Who?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who?

[Shannon Sharpen]

They had their buy yet. Okay, I don't think we had our buy yet either. Well, we played 10 games.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, y', all, y'. All. Y' all defense is real good though. Like, like.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah. And we ain't even got pat. Once we get PAT back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We really. I'm about like, really, really, really good.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Oh, I did. No, I did. I did legit. I d. Legit.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got. You gotta get. You gotta get that office.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Our office stresses them a lot.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You gotta get that offense going.

[Shannon Sharpen]

We definitely got to get the offense going, but that was a good game. I. I watched this through its entirety. Man, my capabille gonna be like $600. All these damn channels. I gotta get to watch these games.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wait, just use YouTube.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Rookie.

[Chad Ochocinco]

NFL Red Zone Mad.

[Shannon Sharpen]

No comment. Rookie Tyler Shook threw two touchdowns to earn to see out the Saints first win as they defeat the Panthers 17 7. It marks the eighth time and nine starts this season that Bryce Young was limited to fewer than 200 passing yards. Panthers coach Dave Canales described the loss as frustrating. Yeah, you lost to a. A team that had one win coming into this ball game. And y' all look terrible.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The NFL is, you see, week to week, ain't no telling what's going to happen. Ain't no tell. Listen, if you. If you was a gambling man again. I'm going to say it again. If you was gambling. If you was a gambling man and understand the game of football and you was betting, you betting on the Panthers to win this game. You betting on the Panthers to win this game based on how they look this season, they've surprised us. They. But they surprised y'.

[Shannon Sharpen]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They ain't surprised me because I said this is how they was going to look. But today, if I had put money down, I would have bet the house on them to win today. The Saints, who've only won one game. Ain't no way in hell. Ain't no way in hell. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpen]

And their home. Nah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey. But there's a reason they say any given Sunday. And this is exact. This is a visual representation of exactly what that phrase means.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Bryce gonna have to get it together. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Would you say he got to get it together.

[Shannon Sharpen]

You have to get it together.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, quiet, boy.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I think next year is going to be make or break for him. I'm not sure they pick up that option. That feels right. Option. I don't think they're going to do that. But next year is going to be huge for him. He's gonna have to have the best. The best career. Best year of his career.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpen]

And the mere fact that they're not. He's not about to get no 300 million dollar deal. Tell you everything you need to know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They. They don't.

[Shannon Sharpen]

But give the Saints correct credit. Alvin Camaro ran the ball, 22 rushes, 83 yards. Chris Olave had his best game of the season. Five catches.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You saw that one. You saw that one hand catch he had.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Johnson, four catches, 92 yards on a touchdown. Kamara, three catches, 32 yards. But they played well. They played extremely well. The defense did a great job of getting after Bryce Young. They. Stymon Rico, 23 carries for 73 yards total for the Carolina offense. That's not nearly good enough. That's not nearly good enough. It hurt them that they fumbled the football. When he fumbled the football, they, you know, what's the guy from Horn?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Jimmy Jim Hay.

[Shannon Sharpen]

He fumbled the ball and that. That won't do it. That won't do it. Oh. Time for the play of Fade Presented by prize picks. Jalen hurts more than 226 combined yards rushing and passing tomorrow, Monday night. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let me see. AJ Playing. Saquon playing. Devonte Smith playing. I' ma say yeah. I' ma say yeah. I know one thing. They better establish that goddamn run. They coming, boy, they coming.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I'm agree. I'm gonna say yeah too. Romeo Dobbs 52.5 receiving yards.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What you thinking? I'm go. I'm going over that.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Man with, with Mitchell. Yeah, indigenous.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But listen, they put, they putting Dobs in positions to make them plays. He in the slot, he going in motion and you doing a little everything.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Okay, how about this here? A.J. brown More than 58 receiving yards.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't even know. I'm gonna be honest with you.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I don't know either. Cause he didn't play the last game. And I don't know how healthy that hamstring is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, this, that, that.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Romeo. 53 yards. 53 yards. Romeo, Romeo, Romeo, wherefore are thy Romeo?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, I see you. I, I, I ain't know you was in the Shakespeare. Okay. You know I played Romeo in the school play.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah, man, I'm trying to win some money. Ojo you over here.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm just telling you, I'm not. Because you said Romeo, Romeo. I'm just telling you. I, I played, I played, I played Romeo.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I' ma say Dobbs. I'm gonna say Dobbs have 53. I said that I'm gonna AJ 58 yards. He needs 58 yards.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know, bro. Ain't no, ain't no telling. It ain't you you asked me about it.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I'mma say no. I'm g, say less. Josh Jacobs more than three receptions. Yeah, they, they normally run two screens more than so if he gets three, that's a win for me. I'mma say yes. Download to win 25 to win a hundred. Download the app today. Use code Shannon to get 50 in lineups. After you play your first five dollar lineup, it's good to be right. All right, we're gonna get you out of here on this one. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. If JT don't win MVP playing like this, the league got a problem. And besides that two point play, Sauce had London two catches, 26 yards. Clamps. Go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Yeah. Sauce had a really, really good game. Really good game for, for from the half such a short time being there, getting acclimated to the, to the defense. Man, that two point they did, they tripped over each other's shoes. Outside of that, nobody really, really.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Was that a two point. Was that a two point play?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I. Look, it's just gonna, it's gonna take, bro. I mean, so I understand, I understand what everybody's saying, but when these quarterbacks putting up such bloody numbers, what you gonna do with a quarterback with 50 touchdowns, four interceptions and they win their division? It's just, it's the same thing with, with the Heisman in college football.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got to do a, I mean, gently rush.

[Shannon Sharpen]

But you know, it's, it's just, it's just hard for a running back to win it. That's why you haven't seen a running back win that award since Adrian Peterson did it in 2012. This is the longest stretch they've gone without a running back winning the mvp.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But you got to be an outer body.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yes. That's what it's basically going to take. TS Car washing detail service. Shannon who A person you'll like, you love to interview, past or alive. Danielle Hunter is a dog. Eddie Murphy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Richard Pryor. Malcolm X. Dr. King.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I like that.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Hove.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I can make that. I can make that happen, man.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Oprah, Tyler Perry.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I can make that happen with TP too.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Michael Jordan, Kobe Braun.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who else can I get?

[Shannon Sharpen]

Can I Denzel? Samuel L. Jackson? Anybody? Anybody?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You want to know my three? You want to know my three?

[Shannon Sharpen]

You know who else I would, you know what, who I would want to interview? President Trump.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, that, but that, that'll, that'll ruffle some feathers there, boy. That'll rough. That'll ruffle Russell. You know, I wanna, I wanna interview. If I, if I had a show, you know, similar to like Club Sh. Shay, Pat Pass, Dead or Gone, number one would be Frank Sinatra.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Okay, I can see that for you, Frank.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, if I get a chance to sit down with him, that, that would be a joy. Present time, like today, still alive. Who I'm a huge fan of Daniel Day Lewis. I'm talking about huge fan of all his work.

[Shannon Sharpen]

There Will Be Blood.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes. Link Lincoln. Gangs of New York. I mean the list goes. My left foot, the list goes on. And the third person like I would like have to sit down with, it would really, really be dope.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Who?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Sinatra. Mandy Lewis. Luciano Pavarotti.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Luciano Pavarotti. I would like to do it like kind of like what I did with Scarface. Prince.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpen]

That.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's A good one.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Because I want to know, you know, under the cherry moon. Pink cashmere. Oh, sometimes it snows in April. Classic Purple rain. I. Erotic city. International lover. Controversy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know the first question I would ask? I would ask, how long did it. How long did it take you to learn to play every goddamn instrument? Everyone. Like, you know how difficult it is to learn to play one. Oh, you know how difficult it is to play the guitar. Plus everything else, man.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Raspberry beret.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Raspberry parade.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Little red Corvette. Starfish and coffee.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Raspberry parade.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Big Mike. What's up, Uncle Noo? Do you think DK is worth the money the Steelers are paying him thus far?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Can't get in the ball. Consistent.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's. He's a number one. He is the number one.

[Shannon Sharpen]

They know that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpen]

So they do a great job of doubling when they. When, you know, they do a great job of making it difficult for Aaron to get him the ball because there's nobody else to really take pressure.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There's no legit number two. I'm talking about legit. Well, you know what? Oh, y' all want to double me? We gonna make sure he hurt you. They got. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Philip Turner says Steelers last week. Super flunky. Yeah, they. And they're not gonna get either. Cuz they still got the Ravens twice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

True. They got us once. Cuz we beat. We already beat them.

[Shannon Sharpen]

And y' all already beat them.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what we do. That's what we gonna do to y', all, too.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Oh, we already. Oh, you talking about the Raven.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The next one.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Man. Kaylin Blakemore said. Blakemore said. What's up, Uncle Nocho? Okay. You shout out my mom. Her name is Erica. She has. She has a great ending to this year and raising two beautiful children. Love you. Love you. You're the best. Yes. Erica, Kaylin wanted to wish you. He just wanted to say, you know what? My mom, she's been amazing. And I just wanted her to know that she's amazing. So, Erica, if you're watching, you're amazing. You're doing a great job raising two beautiful children, and I can't thank you enough because that's what Kayla wants you to know. How special you are. So, Kaylin, thank you for watching. Thank you for your support. And, Erica, enjoy the rest of 2020.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If you need a babysitter, holl at your boy.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Alejandro Castro. Y' all been to the Rose bowl flea market or played there? No, I have not. What's going on? The Rose bowl flea market that we.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Need to Know about flea market.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know the flea market is. You ain't never been in sloth and swap meet. Yeah, the flea market. The flea market be hitting, right. I used to look hey, you know, back, back then, you know we used to wear the big white tees. Yeah, I used to give him a big white teeth when I was at Santa Monica Junior College from the sauce and swap meet, man. I'm assuming you know the Rose bowl flea market is something like that.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah, I'm assuming too. Terry Bullet said, okay, chat if you, if you die with Uncle Nocho. Let's flood the chat with a hashtag 85Love hashtag 84. Yeah, do that. We greatly appreciate that. Tito Davis said blaming the Steelers defense tonight is foul. Colts and the Seahawks not legit to me. Seahawks got to beat Rams next week for me to believe them. The Colts got to beat the Chiefs. Okay, then when they do that, you go say, well, they. You gonna say they only beat one good team. We know how this work. All you can do is beat people on your schedule. I think they have the quarterback play, they have the defense, they have the offense that they can run the ball. Jonathan Taylor, they're not one dimensional. Now look, I need the coach to get Buck back because Buck is their best defensive player. Buck, defarge, Buckner. So when he comes back and now you pair him with. But I think the Colts and Seahawks are legit. I do. I think the Rams are legit also. So we will find out. Like I said, that's the thing, ocho. We got 7G. Most teams got 78 games to go. So we're gonna find out in the next month. Arthur Murray Jr. Seahawks over the Rams next week. Two picks plus five sacks. Okay, who that chasing the 09? What about Tyler Shook? Performance versus the Panthers? Thought he played well. Thought he played well. That's what you gotta have. Who that chasing 09? I. I know you don't think he's the answer though.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I don't. I don't. I don't think either one of them.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Based on the way he played. He played well today. Let's. I don't need to move forward. I don't need to look too far back. You ask about today and I thought he played well. 19 to 27. 282, two touchdowns and he didn't turn the football over. So you can't ask for anything better than that. Philip Turner. I need Danny to stop fumbling. Just be a Alex Smith. Yes, yes, you do. You do. You can't turn the Ball. Because you pay double for those come playoff times now. Now, the likelihood you're probably not going to face a quarterback that's. That's Penning's junior. You're going to probably. You're going to probably get my homeboy. You'll probably get Justin Herbert. You're gonna probably get Lamar Jackson, probably Bo Nicks with an outstanding defense to back him up. So you turn the ball over, you asking for trouble, booby miles. We need that debate on Thanksgiving versus Sissy. Oh, that's what. So that's when y' all play the. The Ravens. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Thanksgiving. Oh, y'.

[Shannon Sharpen]

All. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. You know, it makes sense. It makes sense because the Raven is a bird and we playing thank round Thanksgiving. You know, y'. All. Y' all gonna be straight turkey, boy. Yeah, y' all finna be straight turkey, right? I wonder. We playing at mt Bank.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Okay, Three games, Packers. Yeah, we gotta that Thursday. It's crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What? What Thursday game?

[Shannon Sharpen]

Packers at Lions, Chiefs at Cowboys. Bingo's at Ravens.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What are we gonna be. You mean I'm gonna have to have a full stomach? We gonna come on the show after I have a full stomach and we beat y'.

[Shannon Sharpen]

All. That ain't happening.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm away. I'm wearing a whole turkey costume.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah, okay. Jimmy Cleveland shouted out show. I need y' all to call NFL police on Kevin and little Dylan can't throw accurately. Throw the ball in the dirt. Dink and dunk. Gabriel, he's thinking.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He.

[Shannon Sharpen]

He's sticking it for Baltimore game with Dylan and ball and the Baltimore game. Will y' all hold up? They play Cleveland next week. Baltimore.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wait, the Ravens play the Browns next week?

[Shannon Sharpen]

Baltimore Browns.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now, listen, I know you're gonna say, oh, we finna beat the brakes off of them. Dylan Gabriel's not the answer. He's not playing. Well. Watch the Browns win that game.

[Shannon Sharpen]

You can hope that. But that ain't happening.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's the flex.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah. Miles Garrett's have 10 sacks.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's the season. It's the way it happened. People. People thought. People listen. The Dolphins was playing the Bills. Everybody named mama. Oh, the Dolphins bad this year. They only won three games. Or the Bills and whoop them. Well, I guarantee you.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Wow. Next week. Yeah. That ain't happening. I know. That's wishful thinking. Triple F. Scott sanity says on December 21, Ocho is going to have half a Bengals jersey. Half of the Dolphins jersey, soldier.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that's Christmas time. Four days before Christmas. You started Christmas sh on.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah, I already told him. Ain't Nothing coming out. Merry Christmas. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy. Say hey, fam. Just said hello. Y' all doing good, Doc? We doing amazing. Better than your Cowboys. Hold on. Who the Cowboys play this week? Next week? This week. I know they don't nobody this week but who they play next week. Oh, Lord, dog. Y' all about to get. Y'. All. Y' all about to get another win. Y' all play at the Raiders.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not. You know what?

[Shannon Sharpen]

Max probably about to have four sacks though. You know, given what they've gone through the last week. Ocho. With the tragic pasting of Marshawn Leland, you know what? They might rise up. They might. They might put. Put us a little string together possibly. I can see that. But that right. But they right tackle.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, they got some things to fix over there, boy.

[Shannon Sharpen]

They do. Truant infamous 73. Justin Fields was three or five for five yards in the first half. God, bro. An old man can throw the ball more than 10 yards.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What? It's the NFL, man.

[Shannon Sharpen]

They throw the ball. But more than that in the 40s, Brandon Crow. If you guys were in charge of Cleveland, what all changes were you making after the season? The incompetence at all level is too much. Can't run that back. Nope. I'm cleaning the house.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm cleaning house too. Matter of fact, if I had the money, I'd buy the Browns. I'm just saying, hypothetically speaking.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Hey, Samuel Le Grand. Hey, Love Lace is crazy lovely. I think that's his name. That's what. We corrected that, but okay. Yeah, Appreciate that. Christopher Evans Jr. Trey Henderson looking like Lightning McQueen versus Tampa. Big win for us. Gotta keep it going, bro. He got speed now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who that?

[Shannon Sharpen]

Oh, he can. Hey, he can pick him up and put him down. He did. He looked. He. That was very, very, very impressive. Just minimize the turnovers. Yay. But Braver Bravel is a guy I would like to play for.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got that team playing very well. God damn. Drake May is the real deal.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Philip Turner said just make it MV mvq. Most valuable quarterback, not mvp. Only then only them can win. That seems to be the case right now, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It.

[Shannon Sharpen]

It really does. Because you go back and look. Look at what Adrian Peterson won. Look at his quarterback was. Was Christian Ponder. Look at his stats. Look at Adrian Peterson.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that was one hell of a season though, boy.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yes, but let's just put together Peyton Manning's 5,000 yard season with 50 touchdowns. He win an MVP? No. Mahomes 5050 touchdowns, 10 interceptions. He went in MVP. No. When Lamar Jackson had 40 touches. I mean, you look at these guys numbers. Ocho. Josh. Josh Allen, 30. Got 35 passing touchdowns, 10 Russian touchdowns. It's. It's gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard for a running back to win. I'm not saying it can't be done. Jonathan Taylor break Eric Dickinson record. Has 25 or more touchdowns. He gonna win the MVP. You heard it here first. Nunes uncle no Cho is there going to be a Nightcap World cup edition next year? Messi's going back to back. Ocho, you and I'm a line taking it all this year. Ocho. We. We'll see that. That's Ocho expertise. I'm gonna have to get somebody on here with Ocho to do Nightcap World cup addiction edition. Mike Banks said. Oh, me and Coach Johnson added again. I like well done steak. He likes medium rare. Am I tripping? Hell yeah. Nobody want that damn medium rare. I like mine.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I like my meeting well, butterfly, you know, little butter.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Sometimes you can get it medium plus. But just give me medium. I don't want it rare. I don't want it medium rare. I want medium.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpen]

I mean, you know, Ash won't hurt. The good vet could have saved it. You know, I'm saying. Nah, I'm good. Sam Black. My pants segments are getting shorter and shorter now. Hey, look, you guys are real. I mean, you know, this is why Mr. Kraft made that decision. But it all turned around. I believe Coach Belichick might have. Could have held onto that job, but his pride. You're going to take two guys that's never called offensive plays. See, that's where the arrogance come in at. You will take two guys. One was a special teams coach. Never called a play except return left, return right, block left, block right. And then a defensive coordinator. And you're going to have them call offensive play after your guy goes to the Pro bowl, after Your guy goes 10 and 6 and you win a playoff game and this is what you do to him. It was his arrogance. It was his arrogance. Mac Jones could. Mac Jones can play. I'm not saying he's the second coming of Tom Brady. Hell, I don't believe Drake May is the second coming to Tom Brady. But you see the difference between Drake May, when Drake May got Josh McDaniels calling play for him versus Mac Jones getting Joe Judge. And what's the D coordinator? Former. What's the name? I forget his name. He went to Detroit. The head coach, Matt Patricia, you see the difference. But guess what? If you guys keep Winning. We're gonna talk about y' all every week. Sam, Red eye, first powerlifting competition soon. Any advice? Yes. Be conservative on your first lift.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Be strong like me.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Make sure. Hey, make sure you got all. Make sure you everything is what it's supposed to be, you know, get your rest. You'll get plenty of time. I mean, hey, man, them power lifting me, man, them things be taking forever. You live once, you might not live again for another 15, 20 minutes. Joshua throng said. Oh, Cho, I saw your camera go out yesterday. I'm still here. Your tech got Big Dog California. But I can help from. I can help you shoot. I can help from here. Troubleshoot.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh.

[Shannon Sharpen]

So, man, he don't take no for an answer. Saucy D. Melissa ran the table this year and got slighted not being a finalist. I agree 1000%. How's Melissa Jefferson? She lost one race all year long. She got the fast, fastest 5 fastest time in the hundred meters. She sweeped the world championship in the 100, 200, and she was on the winning four by one. And you mean to tell me she's not. Listen, this is not a knock on, on any of the women that was nominated, but she got to be a finalist if she, I, I. If she's not a finalist, I don't know who is. She should have been a finalist. You get no, you get no qualms from me. You know, Sid doing what she did in the 400 meters, I can understand. She challenged a record that many thought would, would be unbreakable, untouchable. You know her. Paulino, Nasser, El Sawi. That was a race for the ages. You had two women's go under 48 seconds when you had only had two women ever go under 48 seconds. And you had to go and see it goes 47, 78, which is not a tick off of that 40, 40, 47.60 by Matarina Coke. But yeah, Melissa definitely should have been a finalist. She absolutely should have been a finalist. And, and this is not a knock on film K. Film K is going to go up to the 800 meters. She said she's gonna not gonna run the. Her specialty, which is the hurdles. She's going up to 800. But we know if Sid is in that, she ain't winning no world championship and she ain't gonna have all those fast time. Sid is focusing on something else. Sid says, you know what? I want to be the greatest. I want to be right now. That's Shelly and Fraser Price. Shelly Ann Frazier Price is the greatest female Track and field athlete.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There.

[Shannon Sharpen]

There is. You look at what she's done in the Olympics, you look at what she's done in the world championships, and you look at the longevity in which she's had. She's the best. But if Sid holds the world record in the 400 hurdles and the 400 meters and she wins a gold medal, that's it. That's enough for me. That's enough for me. And I still believe she's gonna get. She's gonna go back to the hurdles and go under 49. Because now what we know, because we had never seen her run 48 before in the open four. She's run sub 48, which lets her know she can run sub 50 in the hurdles. She goes sub 50 in the hurdles. She's already gone sub 48 once she gets that world record. And she might double. She might do both of them in 28 if they give enough time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. In between to recover.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Laura Sterling, can you wish my. My wonderful mother and a recent cancer survivor, Ms. Nettie Morris, a happy birthday? Yes, we can. Laura Sterling. Ms. Nettie, happy 83rd birthday and congratulations for beating cancer man. Elf cancer. Nobody cares about cancer. We wish we could eradicate it, but unfortunately we haven't found a. A waiter. Wipe it out. But we're trying. But Miss Nettie. Happy, huh? Happy. Happy 83rd birthday. And guess what? Many, many more to come. Congratulations on beating cancer Double A. Greetings from Tijuana, Mexico. This show is the best. One question. How important is an O line? And how can you tell an outstanding offensive line, O line talent or. It is of the utmost importance. It is the most important thing you can have on offense because I don't give a damn who your quarterback is. Because if they can't block for your open holes for the running back, you ain't doing nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Games are one. Games are one. In the trenches. Games are one and loss in the trenches. Your front line, your back, your. Your defensive line. Either way, everything starts there.

[Shannon Sharpen]

Yeah. That is the most important. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite dog, Shannon Sharpen, my partner and co host. That's Liberty City's own. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you everyone for your support and your continued support. Make sure you check out Shay by Laportier. Just head over to laportierconac.com if you cannot find it in a city or a state near you, please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company on all of his platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being pinned in the chat, we want to thank our very Special guest Devon H.N. for joining us tonight. The Chargers beat the Steelers by the score of 25 to 10. Lions double up the Commanders 44 to 22 as Dan Campbell takes over the play calling Ravens beat the Vikings, run their record to four and five and have won three straight after losing. After starting one in five, who else did something today? Browns lose to the Jets 202720 Kevin Stefanski said they're sticking with Dylan Gabriel. Jonathan Taylor Rams for 244 yards and three touchdown as the Colts were winning overtime 31 to 25. Matthew Stafford throws for another four, has four touchdowns, no interception as they beat the 49ers. Matthew Stafford has three straight games in which he's thrown 12 total touchdowns, zero interceptions. So three straight games with at least four touchdowns and zero interceptions. That's the first time that's been done in NFL history. Patriots beat the Buccaneers 28:23 and the Bears rally past the Giants 24:20. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow night after the Packers Eagles game. I'm up, he's oo. We're out. Thanks for joining us tomorrow.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[Shannon Sharpen]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride. A game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.