Nightcap Hour 2: Kevin Durant DEFENDS “OLD HEADS” in ALL-STAR Game + James Harden says LOYALTY is OVERRATED + Doc Rivers BELIEVES he’s HALL of FAME Material + NBA players DUCKING Mac McClung?! + College Basketball has BETTER PRODUCT than NBA

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2 – February 13, 2026

Overview

In this episode, Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”) sits down with co-hosts Chad Ochocinco Johnson and Joe Johnson for the “Nightcap Hour 2,” diving deep into a range of hot-button topics from NBA and NFL culture. The trio debate the state of All-Star weekend festivities, player loyalty in sports, Doc Rivers’ Hall of Fame case, and more. The conversation is lively, unscripted, irreverent, and full of both humor and insight, peppered with memorable quotes and personal anecdotes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA All-Star Game: "Old Heads" vs. International Stars

• Kevin Durant’s Comments on All-Star Game Effort

  • KD pushes back against criticisms that older American stars don’t compete, suggesting European players also “be laying on the floor shooting from half court” and aren’t held to the same standard ([01:58]).
  • The crew reflects on how All-Star Game intensity has waned, comparing today’s play to the physical, competitive ’80s, ’90s, and early 2000s. Modern All-Star Games are seen as lacking defense and competitive fire.

• On All-Star Incentives and Changing Times

  • Even with monetary incentives, stars making $60M+ aren’t motivated to go hard in an exhibition ([05:41]).
  • "You have to incentivize it with something that starts with an M." – Chad Ochocinco ([06:13])
  • All-Star weekend traditions have shifted, with the three-point contest drawing more excitement than the dunk contest, and a nostalgia for the days when stars took pride in All-Star performances.

2. The Decline of the Dunk Contest

• Mac McClung Ducks and NBA Player Reluctance
  • Mac McClung stepped aside from this year's dunk contest after hearing “NBA players didn’t want to compete if he was in it” ([39:54]).
  • The panel bemoans the lack of star power and creativity in recent contests, longing for the days of Jordan, Dominique, Vince Carter, and Zach LaVine vs. Aaron Gordon ([44:49]).
  • "Fans don't want to see the 13th and 14th guy on a roster, they want names." – Chad Ochocinco ([41:49])

3. Player Loyalty as “Overrated”

• James Harden Speaks Out

  • Harden asserts: “Loyalty is overrated…This is a business at the end of the day.” ([17:06])
  • The crew universally agrees, noting that ownership only cares about loyalty when it benefits them, and that players have to focus on protecting their own careers and earning potential ([18:43]-[21:16]).
  • Memorable exchange:
    • Chad Ochocinco: “Loyalty and friendship should be measured when you’re down because everybody’s loyal and friendly when you up, man.” ([20:25])

• Athlete Movement—A New Normal

  • Most greats don’t stay with one team (Shaq, Kareem, LeBron, KD, Tom Brady, etc.), and those who do are outliers. The norm is player movement, especially as age and contracts become factors ([27:00]).

4. Doc Rivers’ Hall of Fame Debate

• Doc Rivers: Hall or Not?
  • Doc says he believes he’s Hall of Fame-worthy despite only one championship and several playoff disappointments ([32:21]).
  • Chad and Unc: Are uncomfortable with self-promotion for the Hall while still active.
  • “He’s blown more than one series leads than any coach in NBA history. If I’m not mistaken, he’s lost more Game 7s in NBA history...” – Chad Ochocinco ([33:27])
  • Basketball Hall's inclusion of college, NBA, and international success makes it unpredictable ([33:27]-[35:44]).

5. Rise of College Hoops

• Jay Williams’ Hot Take: College Over NBA?
  • College basketball now “has a better product than the NBA right now”; top teams play each other more often, and energy is higher as players fight for a shot at the pros ([47:52]).
  • The money in college through NIL deals has changed the game, but the competitive fire remains stronger than in the pros ([49:27]-[50:29]).

6. Nostalgia and the Changing Landscape

• Pro Bowl & All-Star – “It’ll Never Be the Same”
  • The NFL Pro Bowl has become skills competitions and two-hand touch, a big change from the hard-hitting, camaraderie-filled days of old ([12:14]).
  • “The NBA All-Star Game, the NFL Pro Bowl. It’ll never be the same. I don’t expect to see that no more.” – Chad Ochocinco ([12:16])

7. Lighter Moments

• Trading Helmets & Hawaii Pro Bowl Memories
  • Fun stories about helmet trading at the Pro Bowl and running up big tabs in Hawaii—with nostalgia for shared experiences among football greats ([07:32]-[11:42]).
• Yoga, Health, and Old Athletes’ Stiffness
  • Light banter about flexibility, stretching, doing hot yoga and Pilates, and who can still touch their toes ([57:00]-[61:40]).
• Listener Q&A
  • Personal questions from the audience about grandmothers’ recipes, college experiences, and more ([54:18]-[56:09]).
• Head-to-Head Claims and Friendly Trash Talk
  • Ocho bets he could take NBA player Peyton Pritchard one-on-one, to the co-hosts’ disbelief ([64:14]-[65:28]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Social Media Accessibility

  • Joe Johnson (on KD): “He don’t duck no smoke…He engages with all the fans, whether positive or negative. I wish more star superstars…I wish more of them were as accessible as he is, especially with us regular folks.” ([02:32])

• On Incentivizing the All-Star Game

  • Chad Ochocinco: “You have to incentivize it with something that starts with an M. It has to be.” ([06:13])

• On Player-Owner Dynamics

  • “You can’t fall in love with those animals.” – Chad draws a comparison between coaching and farming, arguing for emotional detachment in pro sports ([22:27])
  • “Sports is a different animal, you have to set emotions aside." ([23:51])

• On NCAA vs. NBA

  • “College basketball product is better than the NBA product right now. Each night college basketball, you’re having top 15 matchups, the best players are actually playing in the games and competing every night.” – paraphrasing Jay Williams ([47:52])

• On the Evolution of Sports Viewing

  • “Cartoons used to be fun when they only came on Saturdays…Then came Cartoon Network. It ain’t no fun if I can watch it all the time.” – Chad, on oversaturation of content ([44:03])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:58 – Kevin Durant’s All-Star defense and All-Star Game criticism
• 05:41 – Why financial incentives won’t revive All-Star effort
• 12:16 – Decline of Pro Bowl and All-Star formats ("it’ll never be the same")
• 17:06 – James Harden: Loyalty is overrated (full quote)
• 20:25 – “Loyalty…should be measured when you’re down…” (Ochocinco’s quote)
• 27:00 – Why most legends don’t finish with one team
• 32:21 – Doc Rivers’ self-advocacy for Hall of Fame
• 39:54 – Mac McClung "ducked" by NBA dunk contestants
• 44:49 – Dunk contest nostalgia and fans’ disappointment
• 47:52 – College basketball is 'better' than the NBA right now
• 54:18 – Listener Q&A begins (recipes, school, personal stories)
• 64:14 – Ochocinco throws down the gauntlet to Peyton Pritchard

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Final Notes

This episode is a quintessential “Club Shay Shay” conversation—rowdy, insightful, nostalgic, and full of unfiltered banter. The hosts acknowledge the constant evolution in sports culture, the financial realities that drive modern athletes’ decisions, and mourn the loss of some “old school” magic from the games. It’s a must-listen for fans of both the NBA and NFL, and especially for anyone nostalgic for the glory days of all-star competitions and the unique camaraderie among pro athletes.

Transcript

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Based on the February 2025 Nielsen report. Kevin Durant on if the old heads will compete in the All Star Game. You should ask the Europeans and the World team if they're going to compete. If you look at Luca, Nicola, Nikolai, Jokic, now is that competition? These dudes be laying on the floor shooting from half court. Katie said, hold on. Y' all would have put that on the old head, but y' all gonna ask them these questions. What's really going on?

[Unc (Host)]

Hey, I like, I like. Hey Katie, say whatever on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If it come up, it's coming out.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, you know what? I, I think KD be the superstar that he is. He's one of the, he's one of the few players that I enjoy on and off the court, especially when it comes to social media and how to conduct himself. He don't duck no smoke.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

He engages with all the fans, whether positive or negative. And I wish more star. More star superstars. I mean, mega star that, that he is. I wish more of them were. Were as accessible as he is, especially with us regular folks, you know, you know, on Twitter, on Instagram, and just, Just the way he engages you talk, he talks back. Joe, you know, you know, I, I, I mean, I, I really enjoyed it. And the fact that he's, he's so, he's so tapped in and into reality and, and not feeling himself as I'm this mega superstar. There's no need for me to really go back and forth with you, you know, us peasants. But the fact that he does do that, whether good or bad, man, I, I really, I really salute kd. And I wish more players were open to, to engaging, you know, with us regular folks, you know, on, on social media a little bit more.

[Unc (Host)]

Hey, look, kd. Kd, I think people looking at. When they talk about the All Star Game and the old heads, that's because you used to seeing these dudes fly through there doing all these dunks D and up. You don't expect that from these Foreigner guys. You know what I mean? You know what they gonna do? They gonna come in, they gonna play the right way, they're gonna knock a couple shots down, they gonna get up out of there, but they still want to see Braun come through the lane, tomahawk that thing. They want. You know what I mean? They want to see the. They want to see us perform, period, point blank.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's Joe. It ain't going back. Once you, Once you let the genie out the bottle, he don't want to go back in there. He like freedom.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They don't play defense anymore, right? And don't get this. We. We saw in the 80s, we saw in the 90s, we saw in the 2000s how the all Star Game was conducted. Ocho is the same thing with the Pro Bowl.

[Joe Johnson]

Pro bowl, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Never gonna get it back to what it was. So just stop looking for that. The, the festivities aren't the same. It used to be the dunk contest close the All Star Game festivities leading into the game itself on Sunday. Now, the Three point competition is the draw. Yeah, yeah, it is what it is. And I don't blame kd. It, it, it's, it's all the guys. Nobody's like, hey, man, we need to lock in. We need to a. It's the fourth quarter. No, I mean, it started getting one, you know, 200 points. I was like, it is, it's never, and it's never, it's never going to change. You're never going to get it back. I don't care what they do. I don't care what they do. They're not going to get it back to what it once was. It's never going to be that.

[Unc (Host)]

I, I agree. Because I think they've already put incentives in it, Uncle Ocho. Like, the winner gets what, 2,300k and the loser get like, I think 50k or something like that. You know what I mean? So they got incentives in it and it still hasn't changed. It's just, it's just not what it used to be, man. It's just not.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, you making $60 million on the court, you're making another 25 million. You're making 85 million. You not missing 200, $300,000.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely not. And that was my first thing, too. And Joe, I mean, we talked about it last year during, during basketball season. We talked about it, you know, during All Star break last year. The only way you get the players to get back to playing the way you want them to play or to make it exciting for the fans, if you have to incentivize it, and it can't be no 200, 500K. You have to incentivize it with something that starts with an M. It has to be.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That ain't the only way.

[Joe Johnson]

And if it's not going to happen, like you just said, it would never be the same. It will never be the same.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All these guys coming, all these guys coming, every guy that's going to the All Star game going to ride on a private jet. Ain't nobody taking no commercial flight.

[Unc (Host)]

Joe, you right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Everybody around the private jet. Ocho, it is what it is. I commend them. I commend the union being strong enough that the salaries that continue to go here, they have no cap, they have no franchise. I mean, just think about the NBA had a franchise, a franchise player tag that you could delegate, say, okay, LeBron, you can't leave Cleveland. Okay, you can't leave, man.

[Joe Johnson]

The play, the play is a raise hell, huh?

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, yeah, they'll tip that thing over.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I Don't it. It. It is. And once and I saw this thing just like the. The Pro Bowl. I saw it where it was trending. There was two hand touching guys. I said, yeah, them owners ain't. Them owners. Them owners ain't want. Don't want to put that bill lo. Yeah, they ain't gonna want to keep sending people over there and putting them up for a whole week and doing all this stuff and. Nah, they gonna end that. Hey, and it ain't the same. Oo it ain't the same. I mean, Hawaii was special. We. You look forward to going across that water. Hey, we get a point. Seeing the guy.

[Unc (Host)]

Hey, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, my tie. Let's. Let's get like 50 my tire. Let's get them blue of wine.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, man, what. Hey, man, what you drinking? All right. We. Hey, get him that.

[Unc (Host)]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oo, what's your room number, man? I'm at five.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, don't do that. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, don't let him get your room number, boy. Hey, don't let. But they said every, every order when you're gonna see that bill, you're gonna be pissed when it's time to go home.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, they get you. Oh, they get you.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, you ain't got to give the room. Let them see you go in that room. Let them see you. What? They walking by to see you. What room you go in? What?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man. Hey. Oh, man, I never forget but that Ihalani and then we talked about it before. Oh, my goodness, man, that. Hey, Joe, you've been to Hawaii, hun, Joe?

[Unc (Host)]

No, I ain't never been.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, Joe, you got to go. You. You got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Got it.

[Joe Johnson]

It's like that, Joe. Yeah, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, something nice.

[Joe Johnson]

It's nice, Joe, but the first.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When we before the Ilan Oo, we used to go to the Hilton Hawaiian.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And the Hilton Hawaiian had benches and so all the guys, the. The old head, the Bruce Smith, the Thurmans, all those guys.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's like, hey, man, what? So they would. They would literally sit out. Say everybody was drinking my ties. Only a few people, so they might sit out 50 to 75 my ties and another 20, 30 blue Hawaiians and strawberry and guys just come by. Hey, man, appreciate that. Good looking.

[Unc (Host)]

Good old time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's how it was. Everybody getting there, chewing the fat, you know, talking, having a good old time. But it was about like the winner of the Super Bowl. They. That's your opportunity. Yeah, we bow down to you.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All The Kings. I. I missed that. I. I missed that. I missed that for the guys. I don't know. Oh, do they still trade helmets? Because, I mean, ain't nobody taking no helmet. You ain't wearing no helmet.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm sure they do. I'm sure they do. Yeah, I'm sure they do. And obviously, if you don't do it at the Pro Bowl, I'm sure you, you know, the equipment managers probably do it that way.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because that was the thing. Joe, you go over there. Hey, yeah, decal helmet. The number one helmet was the. The Cowboys and then the Raiders and then whoever went to the Super Bowl.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, would you. Would you say ain't nobody. What? Ain't nobody want who? Helmets.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, the. Bingo, man. Carl Pickens, man. Carl Pickers. Carl Pickens gave.

[Unc (Host)]

Here, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Carl Picker could not get a helmet away. Yeah. Would nobody trade with it? Yeah, he like, man, I'm leading. I will lead this helmet in the locker room. I said, bro, I'll take it. I said, but you got to sign it, though.

[Unc (Host)]

Oh.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But, yeah, the team like that, who I traded with, because normally you trade with your positions every once in a while, you would trade. You know, I traded with Chad Brown from Seattle. I traded with Michael Barrow. I got a Giants helmet. I got a. A Patriots helmet. I got a. A cheese helmet. Dt And I traded helmets. Colts, Ken Dilge and I traded helmets.

[Joe Johnson]

Ah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, 49ers. Traded the 49ers helmet with Ray Brown. My brother got a good house. He got the Saints helmet. He got a couple of them. Oh, I got. Hold on. I think I got a. I think I got a John Randall helmet. I think Johnny and I trade helmets. I gotta look and see, man, it's been so long. You've been. I had been to the Pro bowl damn near a quarter century. So it's been. It's been a minute. Yeah, but they couldn't get. Now maybe now. I mean, Joe and. And Chase. But you got to realize Carl Pickens with boy. Carl picking the. Jeff Blake going deep.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that moon ball Jeff Blake used to throw on. Hey, there was a sight to see. Hey, forget Darnay Scott. You remember Darnay Scott?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yes, yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Carl Picken one of the fastest, but, boy, hey, he going to get that ball, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I've tried the whips. I gotta look and see. I think I got a Bills helmet, too. I gotta look and see. Next time I go home, I gotta look. Oh, I got Javon curse. I got a Tennessee Titans helmet.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, the freak.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I Traded with Freak. Hey, man, look, every time freak get a sack. Ah, freak out. They play. They play that over the PA system. Yeah, man, Freak was like that. But Joe, you know, the NBA allstar game, the NFL Pro bowl, it'll never be the same. No, I know it'll never be the same. So me, I don't, I don't stop. I don't, I don't. I don't expect to see this, you know, 80s all star game, 90s all star game, early 2000. I don't expect to see that no more. Same thing with the Pro Bowl. And you're not gonna get any more, Ocho, because now all they have is skills competitions. Yeah, they play dodgeballs and they play, you know, quarterbacks trying to. Some of the things that they used to do at the quarterback challenge because the quarterback, quarterback used to have their own club.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

They too cool for school now, man. They too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Host)]

Oh, man, listen, that's why when I go to Hawks games, Uncle Ocho, I always carve out about 10, 15 minutes and sit with Dominique Wilkins. And we just sitting and he be telling me. He tell, man, that man got so many stories. He tell me about the stories back when he was playing compared to nowadays. Oh, yeah. Joe D. Boy couldn't keep older. Yeah, he. He talk about how he would destroy the league right now. And I believe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh yeah. Oh, the way the game is. And that's like, you know, you have to factor in, in. Now whether you play football or basketball is the physicality. They take the physicality out of it, don't yo? Right. Especially in football. You. Football was built on intimidation. You try to break a man's will.

[Joe Johnson]

Will.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, man, they won't let you hit nobody like that.

[Unc (Host)]

No, no, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, you used to go across the middle and the guy be pointing to his head. I'mma hit you your damn head. Come by here. I'mma hit you your damn head. Come back by here. They point. You point to your helmet now. Oh, sure, that's a flag. And they're gonna put. Yeah, 50,000 of your off the check. Yeah, but that's how it was. God, guys would tell you, I'm gonna knock you out. Come back through here again.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, yeah. But that football different.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, it's a. It's a different era and you just have to accept that now. James Harden says loyalty is overrated.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let's take a listen to what James.

[Guest/Caller]

Had to say and the whole quote unquote loyalty thing is I think it's overrated. You Know, I think this is a business at the end of the day, and it's a lot of money involved and a lot of decisions that has to be made. You know what I mean? So, you know, like, if a player isn't producing or if you don't see him in the future or, you know, front office, some of them have to do, like, a job and want to keep their job, you know, so they gotta feel like they gotta do what's best for, you know, to keep their job, and they trade players. Or if a guy isn't happy and he wants to be traded to somewhere else, then it's a problem. There's just so many different dynamics that go into it. This is a business at the end of the day. So, like, you know, not even just the NBA, but, like, people that have normal jobs have, you know, have those same problems. It's just not magnified. You know what I mean? So for me, it's always about, like, I don't lose focus of, you know, trying to compete for a championship and then financially, you know, making sure that my family is taken care of. You know what I mean? Because I'm very smart and I've sacrificed a lot, you know, I mean, financially, like, which I don't get credit. I don't get credit. It don't get talked about, but I'm fulfilled and I'm happy with it, you know, but like, winning a championship or at least having a chance to and then financially getting paid for, you know, me being available and playing at the highest level for so long. So to answer your question, you know, this is a business at the end of the day. So I feel like players should, you know, ultimately do what's best for them and front office does what's best for them and their owner and their organization. So, you know, two sides of a story.

[Joe Johnson]

I kind of like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Not one lie was told.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. Hey, Joe. Hey, you know how this business work? You've been here, Joe, I've been in it, you know, and I mean, loyalty. Well, they throw that word around, especially when it's beneficial for them. We talk about ownership, you know, and if you're not playing well or you're not mean, you're not playing to the standards in which they see fit, what's the first thing they do? Well, we need to just take a pay cut, or the only. Man, you don't even get the decision or the choice to take a pay cut, they let you go. Yeah, and they. They love screaming loyalty when it's beneficial for them. And that's in the sports world. This same thing also also goes into other aspects of life in general as well. You know, most of the time, everybody. Goddamn lawyer. When it's beneficial.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Unc (Host)]

Easy.

[Joe Johnson]

When everything is going good, when things aren't going well. If you're a basketball player, you know, whether you're a football player and it's not convenient for said team or owners. Yeah, man, we. We can't. We can't do this, man. You know, loyalty is out the window. There is no reward for being loyal.

[Unc (Host)]

You're right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Loyalty and friendship should be measured when you're down because everybody's loyal and friendly when you up.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, y'.

[Sponsor/Announcer]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't gonna finna get it. I'm not gonna get it. But I would tell you this. Don had a quote. I think Don Sutton said this, said, I'm the most loyal man. Money. Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. I need to hear that one more time. What you said at the beginning, not. Not what Don Sutton said, but the one you said, that was. That was a ball.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Loyalty and friendship should be measured when you're down because everybody. Loyal and friendly when you're up, man.

[Unc (Host)]

Hey, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Chat. We need to put that on the shirt. Chat. Somebody tweet me that. Some chat. Somebody tweet me that. I don't have my pen and pad in front of me. I'm putting that on the show.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's. That's how it is. I mean, yeah, you find out who. You find out who you are, but you'll also find out who your friends.

[Joe Johnson]

Are when you're down.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You want to know who your friends are? Metro car don't work when you roll it, Ocho. Hey, Bad shots way through. And pick your boy up.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What up, Shot man? My car. All right. I holler.

[Unc (Host)]

Well.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn. Okay, no problem. He's.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah. Hey, hey. I think. Hey. Experience is the best teacher. It is, fellas. Now, I think what James has experienced over the past some odd years, whether it was in Philly with Daryl Moore. Yep. Obviously, the loyalty thing that he was talking about Daryl and then going back home, going to LA Uncan Ocho. I don't think he necessarily wanted to leave the Clippers, but I don't think they was willing to pay him no money either. And what he's saying is, man, I'm still playing at this all star caliber level. And basically, he probably never come out and said. But basically saying that the Clippers didn't want to pay me no money to keep me around. So they just traded me. You know what I mean? And that's kind of what it is. So he's right. It's not really no loyalty in this, whatever they tell you, you know, this is a business, man, first and foremost. And. And the quicker you can get that, you know, through your head, bro, the better off you'll be. So. I totally understand everything he was saying. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, it is. Yo, you hit the nail on the hill. Once you accept that. That you are a commodity.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's just like if you own a farm, Ocho, you can't fall in love with those animals.

[Joe Johnson]

No, you can't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Those pigs are going to go together. And Chad, don't get upset. Don't tell Peter on Ocho and I. But you know what you're gonna do with those pigs. You know what you're gonna do with that. Those cattle. You know what happens to those chickens. So as. And that's what a coach Belichick knew. In order for him to be able to do his job effectively, he couldn't get close because I might have to cut a player. I might have to trade a player.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And the closer I am to said player, the more difficult it is. This is why they don't let higher ups deal with subordinates. It will cloud your judgment because you might have to make a decision where you have to send him or her into battle, into harm's way.

[Joe Johnson]

That's crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's not as complicated. It's like your job.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Your job. Lord of you. As long as you're doing it.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I guarantee you, they fire people. You name a company, and they fire people.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

For whatever reason, he didn't do the job. He or she didn't do the job. They came late, whatever the case may be.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Some people. Hey, we heard some people been on job. Oh, he'd been on this job for 30 years. He'd been on the job for 40 years. Joke. Ain't never took a sick day. But sports is a different animal, and you just have to. You Sometimes you have to set emotions aside. You got to sit your. You have. Leave your feelings at home.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Check your emotions.

[Joe Johnson]

You got to.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And if you do that, you'll be fine. You'll be fine. It broke my heart that I found out the bronco was trying to trade me.

[Guest/Caller]

I like.

[Unc (Host)]

Hold on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yo. All these shots I done took in my ankle.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All this. These. All these needles I done put in my ass, took in my shoulders.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, they don't care nothing about that. It's inevitable, Joe. When it's time to go, boy, it's time to go.

[Unc (Host)]

But I think, I think the, the hardest thing is because James is up in age. What is he on, 36 probably?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

36. Yeah, that sounds about right.

[Unc (Host)]

36, 37. You know, when you make it, when you make it to those, to those years in basketball, that's like, you know, they, it's like the cliff. You know, they, they, they don't really think you can really play no more. You know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So.

[Unc (Host)]

But you got guys like KD and LeBron who didn't exceed the eyes, and now they make it look like, you know, you can play in your 40s. That ain't normal, guys.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's not, it's not, it's not normal. And I think the thing is, what James saw, he's like, hold on, I'm playing at a higher level than PG. And PG just got four years, two plus, and y' all won't give me two years at 80.

[Unc (Host)]

I ain't nobody. Yeah, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

He gonna get that job.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We all played the sport, so we ate secretly. We pocket watch, man. Hey, Joe, you see what that joker got, man? He averaging 12 points a game. Oh, Joe. Yeah, man. That joker called 50 balls last year. Yeah, they gave that joker 20 million.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you think Joe, he gonna get what he want?

[Unc (Host)]

I'm not sure what he trying to get. Is he trying to get a two, three year deal? I'm sure he probably won a three year deal.

[Joe Johnson]

He gonna get it though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think he won. He won. He, he wanted two. He wanted two years at four. What the report say now? I don't know.

[Sponsor/Announcer]

He.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He didn't say. But the reports like he wanted two for 80.

[Unc (Host)]

I think Cleveland gave him that. I don't think they would have trade for him if they, they wouldn't give up Darius Garland. They just brought James over there for this run for the rest of the year.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Host)]

And then.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, and then get him out of there. That don't make no sense. So I think, I think they'll definitely pay him. So I think they're playing he get his money.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But, but all, all James did was say the quiet part out loud.

[Unc (Host)]

That's it. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, you think about all the guys that spent one there. I mean, think about the guys, all your greatest players. How many of them really actually stay with one team?

[Joe Johnson]

Doesn't happen often. It happens.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Kobe, you get Magic, you get a Duncan, you get a Dirk, you get a Bird. But for the most part, for Those fives, you get Shaq, you get Kareem, you get LeBron, you get, you get KD or you, you gonna have your stuff. Like I said, you're gonna have outliers. But if you go back into the NFL, Joe Montana played for two teams. Peyton Manning, two teams. Tom Brady, two teams. Emmett Smith, two teams. Bruce Smith, two teams. Jerry Rice, several teams. Time, several teams. Randy Moss, several teams. To several teams.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Warren Moon, several teams. You see how, you see how it's going. Every once in a while you get outliers. You get an Aaron Donald, one team, you'll get a, a, a alt, one team, but for the most part, don't come Often you get a Marino or an Elway, but a lot of times, man, you're, you'll have to move it on alone if you want to continue to play. Now, if you want to leave a couple of years early, earlier than you want to.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Just so you stay in one jersey, that's your choice.

[Unc (Host)]

But if you feel that's, that's the.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hard decision, still feel you could play at a high level and you want to keep playing, well, it might be a possibility. It's not there. I'm sure all things being equal, you guys, Joe and Ocho, I guarantee you Mr. Kraft would have preferred Tom Brady to retire.

[Unc (Host)]

A Patriot. But you don't think he wanted him to go to the hell no.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell no.

[Unc (Host)]

Well, how you let that happen then?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause he let Coach Belichick talk him into it. He did. He trusted Coach Belichick, basically. And Coach Belichick, when he wanted to do it, before he made him get rid of Jimmy G. Well, right. I remember Coach Belichick circle back.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Say he's, he's not the same player. He's falling off, Tom. Say, I'm gonna show you.

[Unc (Host)]

That's all a player need. That's all some players need. A little gas.

[Joe Johnson]

Gas?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Host)]

You give them a little gas, boy, they gone.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm gonna fall off into another Super Bowl.

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[Unc (Host)]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Doc Rivers believes he deserves to get into the hall of Fame. Per Mark J. Spears Joe docking the last 15 seasons zero championships, zero finals appearance, one conference. When did guys start talking about the hall of Fame, Joe?

[Unc (Host)]

Must be, it must, it's gotta be. It's gotta be the era we living in, Uncle Ocho, this social media era. Because everything, you know, is, is, is, is magnified to the highest at this point. You know what I mean? You see people always talking about the hall of Fame and we all know how prest is to make it and the fact that he's won a title, he's coached some greats. Yeah, he probably should have won a few more, but, you know, I, I think he's done a, you know, okay job now. He's had some teams that, that we all felt that should have went to the finals. Like this Bucks team with Dame, obviously, Dame getting hurt. You know, things happen. But I don't know, man, it is, it's, it's, it's. I think he gonna get in. I think you gonna get in, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Look, the basketball, because they factor in so much. They take in college, they take an international play. Hell, they taking high school. I don't know, Joe. I don't know. I just, I just, I mean, yeah, you look at his resume outside of the Celtics and his resume outside. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, if you say, well, take his odds. If, if, if he had 1, 2, 3 championships with the Celtics and you say, well, look at his. Okay, well, I, I, you're right. He didn't do a whole lot in Orlando. He didn't do a whole lot in Philly. He didn't do anything with the Clippers, and he's not doing a whole lot with the Bucks. But he did get two or three championships with the Celtics, but he didn't get two or three championships with the Celtics. He's blown more than one series leads than any coach in NBA history. If I'm not mistaken, he lost more game sevens in NBA history. I, I don't know, man. I don't know.

[Unc (Host)]

Guess it just depends on what the committee feel.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I, I, I just, I mean, I just, I just, you just get uncomfortable when people start talking about the hall of Fame. That's something that, right, you're done. You let other. Unfortunately, there ain't nothing you can do once you're done. A committee panelist, whatever the case, whatever they call themselves, they're gonna vote on that. But for you to talk about that.

[Unc (Host)]

Now, to be advocating yourself. Yeah, man, that's because we, we never, you don't never. You, you never see that, though. You never See a guy still playing and you know him talking about himself or you know her talking about herself, talking about the hall of Fame. That's why I asked y' all the other night. I'm like, man, I ain't never thought about that when I was absolutely not real. Like, I just wanted to go out and compete, enjoy the game, have fun with it, and, you know, put my talents on display. But it was never to where I entered a game or a season thinking, oh, I need this to go right for me to make the hall of.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Fame as a seventh rounder. What business I got even thinking about.

[Unc (Host)]

The hall of Fame.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I was just trying to make a team.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah. Trying to show you belong. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Seventh rounders don't make the hall of Fame. Not way, way back when, when they had 25, 30 rounds. Ocho, you know, you get a seventh rounder, but in the modern era when you only had, you know, you had 12 rounds, and then they cut it down to seven. Now, seventh rounders don't be making no hall of Fame like that.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So why was I even thinking about something like that? I'm just trying to. Hey, if I could just stay on the rock. If I could just stay on the roster. That's what it takes.

[Unc (Host)]

You gotta just fight. You ojo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What?

[Unc (Host)]

What round you went ojo?

[Joe Johnson]

Second round. Six picks in the second round, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you like that, huh?

[Unc (Host)]

Huh? You were getting money up there.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, I got a little bag.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Better than me coming out, huh? You was better than me, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm still better than you right now. Yeah. This is what I do. It's what I do, you know? Hey, hey, Joe. You gotta. Hey, Joe. I was a one for one. I bounced around. I. I didn't really get an opportunity to. To blossom at a Division 1 school, you know, for four years. So, I mean, I. I got lucky. My backup was. My back was against the wall, and it was.

[Guest/Caller]

It was.

[Joe Johnson]

It was a do. A do or die moment. Either you get it together now with this one year, or you're gonna be right back in Liberty City, you know, doing. Ain't I. I don't know what I would. I Maybe work for FedEx, be an Amazon driver?

[Unc (Host)]

Hey, hey, that's the best thing when you sometimes, you know, you may not know it because you in the moment, but when you're back against the wall, that's when you gonna perform your best. You just don't know.

[Joe Johnson]

I have a choice, Joe. I ain't had no more eligibility left So I had no choice but to do it. Okay, you know what? Let me try it my grandma way this one time and see what happens. I'm gonna go to class. I'm not gonna skip. And I'm putting football second and long. Lord, behold it goddamn work.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You ought to go back to school and get your degree, Ocho. I'll be so proud of you.

[Joe Johnson]

I am. I told you, I'm going back to fam. I'm not sure how.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't even know the steps to do it.

[Unc (Host)]

But you going online.

[Joe Johnson]

I. I want to. I want to be in school, man.

[Unc (Host)]

In person.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Your ass online, nobody want to see your old ass, decrepit ass with them at 17, 18, 19 year olds. You know, he got the patient to sit there anyway.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Why? Unc, I got patience. I sit here and play video games a day.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What about all them jobs you got?

[Joe Johnson]

You right. You right, right. Hey, so, hey, hold on. Should I. Should I do it online? Yeah, yeah, I think I'm gonna do that. But. But if I do it online and I graduate from fam, can I at least walk? Can I. Can I walk?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[Unc (Host)]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Graduating online doesn't mean you don't get to walk in person. You don't graduate online.

[Joe Johnson]

Right? Hey, hey, hey. I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna do that, Joe. I'm gonna do that.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah. What you thinking about majoring in?

[Joe Johnson]

Probably. Probably the best thing I'm at. I'm good at business. I mean, Joe, I'm good at business. You know, business and marketing. Marketing. That. That's. That's me there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Grandkids gonna beat him out of school.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. My kids and beat me out already. 303 of them beat me out of college already. They. They got their diplomas. I ain't got mine.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

French Fry go beat you out.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, we got the show tomorrow.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No.

[Joe Johnson]

What about Saturday?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Saturday.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. I mean. And French Fry gonna be here. Well, okay. What about Sunday?

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Unc (Host)]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

First, by gonna be here, my dog gonna get on here, man. I got all. I got all my girls coming. Coming to the house. We're gonna. We're gonna celebrate.

[Unc (Host)]

How many girls you got, Ojo you got. I know you got a big gun over there, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

French Fry getting dropped off.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. At the dough man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Unc (Host)]

Hey. Oh, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe at the door.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Matt McClung says he chose not to enter the dunk contest because several NBA players didn't want to Compete if he was in it. McClung said, I think that was just best and back and forth for us. Be like. Then they were like calling me, being like, people don't want to do it if you're going to do it. And I thought it's best if I just sit out this year and let it be, no matter what. Man, you mean to tell me they scared of a guy that's in the, in the G league? Who? Yeah, they, they.

[Unc (Host)]

They scared of him. Yeah, he got. Hey, that boy, he. He. He ain't about that plan. You see the past couple years.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, it ain't close.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, he done put them boys to shame. And he know. They know he got the crowd behind him, too. Damn. But I want. I wonder who didn't want him in there, though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hell, I don't want the ones that's in there in there. So I don't. I don't know what they talking about me. Let's be real, man. Come on. Like I said, and I get it, like, the best players, like, really used to compete in the dunk contest. Yeah, that's what the dunk contest was. Now every dunk contest ain't gonna have Jordan. Who's your best player? Dominique, who's one of your best players? A Colby of things like events, Carter T. Mac, things like that. But these guys here, I'm like, hold on, bro. Hold on. You can't be the 13th and 14th guy on your own team, right? In the dunk contest.

[Unc (Host)]

You know, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Larry Nance and Daryl Griffith, Dr. Duncan Stein, Terence Stanberry, Kenny Skywalker. Those guys. Yeah, like, oh, yeah, okay, yeah, obviously, Dr. J and, and David Thompson and those guys, Jordan and, and Dominique. But man, these guys here, man, I'm like, hey, look, if, if you, if.

[Unc (Host)]

You can fly, you got some hops. They trying to do whatever they can to make the Dun Dun contest worth watching. So it don't matter if you the 12 man on the team, but you in warm up line, Windmill and 360.

[Joe Johnson]

That's me. Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe, you need to know. The fans need to know him.

[Unc (Host)]

That's why.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because think about what they're saying. Who is this guy, Joe, you follow the league and some of these guys, like, who is he?

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, you're right.

[Joe Johnson]

That's your introduction to allowing the fans to know you if you can jump, if you a high flyer, you know, I mean, but I mean, it is what it is.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The fans like, man, you know, the most part, we like to have who gonna win. Oh, man, Dominique gonna get Jordan this year, Jordan gonna get Dominique. Oh, Dr. J gonna win.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, them days over.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, it's not. Vince gonna win now. T. Mac gonna win. Yeah. Now look exactly. These guys here, like I said, once they started letting guys miss like 15 dunks.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Over that.

[Unc (Host)]

Hey, that thing was star studded back in the day.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Unc (Host)]

I'm talking about. You be glued to the tv. You ain't miss. Not now. Don't them, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, and that was. And that was the thing, though, Joe. The. The All Star game. Excuse me. The dunk contest. That was Saturday Night. Lights go down, everybody hype. Everybody got the camcorder. Everybody had the camcorder.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah. Yeah. I got a question.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Do y' all think. Do y' all think we.

[Unc (Host)]

We over saturated everything? Because everything is kind of like right in front of us right now. It's like so, like, you know, you couldn't see none of that back in the day, Uncle Ocho, unless you turn to the TV at a certain time. You know, now every game you can watch every game, you might be glancing through your phone and see everything that's going on. So do y' all think that being oversaturated is kind of like what. What takes away from the. The pizzazz of like, All Star or, or. Or things that, you know, we were accustomed to being excited about, but now because we see so much, it might.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Be cartoons don't have the same. Once they started coming on every day, because cartoon used to be fun when they only came on Saturdays one day, then they came out with a Cartoon Network. You're like, well, it ain't no fun if I can watch it all the time.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. All the time.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, I think, hey, Joe, it might be oversaturated, but if the product did what it was supposed to do when it's out there, we would still be excited to see it. The fact that the product is out there and they're not doing anything to keep you excited, even though it's saturated. I mean. Yeah, I mean, it is. It is what it is. I was going to use an analogy that is oversaturated on Twitter. You can find it anywhere and sit anywhere, but for some reason, we always want to see it. But I'll let. I'll leave. I'll leave that alone.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We still like. We still like to dunk. We still talk about people getting. Getting flushed on, but.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's when they actually playing for real. Yeah, they actually playing for real, Joe. When. With All Star Game dunk contest. I mean, don't know, don't nobody want to do the gun dunk contest no more. They lack creativity. The last time, the, the last great, the last great dunk dunk contest. Aaron Gordon versus Zach Levine.

[Unc (Host)]

Levine.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I mean.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain'T no way one should have lost. They should have been cold MVPs.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, that was tough. That was. Hey, then. But when you think about the All Star Game itself, I'm gonna tell y' all what really kills it. It's like the first three quarters, it's like olay. Yes. You get a layup, you get a dunk, you get a between the leg, you. So fans don't really want to see that. They want to see you compete. You know, when that fourth quarter get here and if it's a close game, obviously guys gonna compete. But them first 3/4 be so watered down that the fans get restless, you know what I mean? They get tired of just watching layups and dunks and like, man, lock that dude.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's already 194 and a half. 94. I ain't watching that mess, man. I mean, I want, you know, and they try, they tried everything. They let LeBron and, and Steph and LeBron and, and, and, and, and kd and they let Giannis and LeBron, and they've let so many different players try to pick, and they split it up. You could pick somebody from the west, even though you in the east, or you can pick somebody in the east, even though you from the West. They've tried everything.

[Unc (Host)]

Hey, I've been here. I heard the narrative about the blacks against the whites. What y' all think about that?

[Joe Johnson]

Eh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, bro. Hell, why not just make it Skins versus the shirts, y' all take y' all shirts off the other. Hey, Joe, play like we used to play at the Wreck.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Unc (Host)]

Some of these boy got some bad.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. They got them BMW body made wrong. But I look, yeah, I just think the thing is we just got the lower expectations. It's never going to be what it once was. And there are a lot of things that's not as good as it once was. That don't mean it can't be good. It's just not going to be that. I think we just got, we just have to lower the expectations. It is, yeah.

[Unc (Host)]

Or, or, or we got to get a, a, a, a good crop of guys, man, to really come in and, and pick this league back up. Because I, I, megastars are going out. You know, they on the late, they on their last legs. The, The Steph Curry, KD's, LeBron, the Durants, the LeBrons. Come on, man, like, we need some. We need, we need to know that the game is in great hands going forward with the, with, with the young talent. We got some young talent in the league, but I think this draft class here gonna help out a lot.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It is what it is, man. Hey, Jay Williams says college basketball product is better than the NBA right now. College basketball product is better than the NBA product right now. Each night college basketball, you're having top 15 matchups and the best players are actually playing in the games and competing every night. Joe Ocho, you agree?

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think what college basketball has done, obviously it's a professional sport now, Uncle Ocho, this ain't just no regular college basketball. So what they've done is. Okay, now this is a professional sport. Okay? Even though teams, top teams in the sec, they gonna play against some of these top teams in the acc, you know what I mean? So you got to go out there and see these teams early versus just having to see them in the tournament. Now you get to see them early in the season. I think that's what made, you know, college so fun because we got the top guys competing against each other. You got the BYU playing against Kansas. You got the, obviously always the North Carolinas and Dukes, but you know, you got the Arkansas traveling to Houston to play, you know what I mean? So you got these top ranked players playing against each other. So now we as the fans can kind of gauge on, okay, yeah, Arkansas Razorbacks, they got a chance this year, you know what I mean? Or whatever your team may be. I just think it's been, it's been a lot more fun watching because although these guys are getting paid, Arkin Ocho, they still fighting for that next level. They all still got another level they want to get to, and that's ultimately the pros.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, but if I can make, if I can make me a couple of million while I'm here, might as well wait.

[Joe Johnson]

Might as well.

[Unc (Host)]

I'm here. Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man.

[Unc (Host)]

What you guys. Can y' all imagine the money y' all be making in college?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I made a whole lot of money. I probably made like 2500, 5000. Nah, that's it, Mr. Banner. State ain't got money like that. That's an HBCU, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Somebody, somebody. I put them numbers up. Somebody would have came and probably swooped me up.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Host)]

Hey, look, your thought process would have been a lot different going into college knowing that they Were paying money. That's what I'm trying to say.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

My thought process was good. Them grades wasn't.

[Unc (Host)]

I'm saying, look, I'm saying, think about this. If you're a high school. Oh, yo, Unc. And they said. And you. And they telling you, okay, we're gonna recruit you to come play at what? Whatever top school. And they gonna pay you. They willing to pay you anywhere from 1.5 to $3 million. Man. Please.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Host)]

Hey. I'm gonna be so locked in.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Host)]

I'm gonna be locked in.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. But I had five star. I had five star talent. I had fallen star grades. They didn't go together. But you right, Joe? Knowing what I know, and it's like, hey, man, you can make money at the next level. Not the next. Not have to skip a level, but the next level you can make. Obviously, you weren't gonna make that kind of money way back then we come. But Ocho, you know, fifty thousand, a hundred thousand dollars was a lot of money back in 86, 87, 88.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I might have been a little something. A little something. I probably could have put some, you know, took a couple of books home and studied a little more. Dwayne called out my Mavs fans for complaining about his free throws in 2006 finals. The greats get to the line. Line. That's what they do. That's what you have to do. That's a part of your job. And so I got to the line.

[Unc (Host)]

That was his game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It was one of the great performances that you will see in an NBA Finals.

[Unc (Host)]

Oh, my God. And it don't even get talked about that much. Okay, Ocho. Yeah, they talk about it here and there, but I'm talking about as far as one of the great. Especially one of the great two guards, you know, D. Wade was special, man. That run he had against that mavericks team last four games, what was that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

06.

[Unc (Host)]

What was that? 07 06.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Host)]

Oh, man, he was. He was. He was unbelievable, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, it was, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, he averaged like 36, 36 a game.

[Unc (Host)]

They had no answer.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Crazy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, I'm. I'm happy I got to experience that. I'm happy I got to experience that.

[Unc (Host)]

You went to some games?

[Joe Johnson]

I went to one.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, that.

[Joe Johnson]

That was. That was enough for me. That was enough for me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I went. I went to the. I went to a game. Ocho. I'm trying to think. They played San Antonio. Actually. It was the year they came back. Game two. I went to Game two, because they had lost game one. Remember when Tony Parker hit that. That Scoop shot on LeBron?

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So that had to be 20. 2013, not 2012. 2012.

[Unc (Host)]

That was his first year.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

2013. Yeah. 13. 13. Because they beat OKC in 12, and then they beat. Then they beat San Antonio in 13.

[Unc (Host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. 13. 2013.

[Unc (Host)]

I fly right up on the.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, them ticket was.

[Joe Johnson]

They was expensive, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

7,500 a piece.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. D. Wade got my ticket for me. I ain't had to pay none. I ain't had to pay none. That's my. Hey, Joe. That's one thing about it, man. Having relationships, you know, with people and in different sports and, you know, and just never burning no bridges, man. Every blue moon, Joe. Every blue moon, you know how somebody say, well, you ever want to come to a game, you know, let me know. Most of the time, you know, I don't take them up on the offer, but I waited this. I waited for this. What's up, boy? You know, I'm gonna take you up on that offer. Remember you said. Yep. I went to one game, and I never. I never take advantage of it, Joe. You know, being that I know everybody didn't have access and the resources to do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

To do anything, Joe. I'll never take it, man. Every blue moon, Joe. Every blue moon.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When it.

[Unc (Host)]

When it's really worth it.

[Joe Johnson]

That. That was worth it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Unc (Host)]

Nick.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Marsh, Rare to catch this live, but I start my work tomorrow. Work morning every day with you guys. Thanks for getting me through some troubled times. Appreciate. Appreciate it. Keep it up. Thank you, Nick. Appreciate you.

[Joe Johnson]

Thank you, Nick.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Deshaun Allen. What's up, guys? Question. What were your grandmother's favorite recipe that she always made for you growing up? Oh, man. Grandma's ain't cooked with recipes. They just cooked hook. I. I've never. I honestly. I can honestly say this. I've never seen my grandmother look at something. A cookbook or a recipe or something. My grandma just cooked from memory.

[Joe Johnson]

Same. Yep. It's something that they learned. And they've been doing it so long. They've been doing it so long, they don't need no. No recipe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They put something in there. They. Yeah, that's when they taste it.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's how my girl. That's what my grandma cooked, so. Yeah. But I used to love Master. You know what? I need to find me some stew chicken. Hey, where they who got some good stew chicken in Vegas. Stew? Chicken wings, mother pork.

[Unc (Host)]

Chicken.

[Joe Johnson]

And you eat chicken sauce?

[Unc (Host)]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Chicken sauce.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Chicken sauce. Yeah. What is that?

[Unc (Host)]

What is that?

[Joe Johnson]

You never had no chicken sauce?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No. Hell, no.

[Joe Johnson]

God damn. Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What is it?

[Joe Johnson]

Chicken sauce. I. I don't know how it's made. I just remember Grandma used to make some damn chicken sauce. I know. I know that. I know how to know the name of it. Hey, Unc, you ain't been to Grits Cat? Not Grizz Cafe. You ain't been to Soul Food Cafe yet.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't been to Soul Food Cafe. Grits Cafe.

[Unc (Host)]

That's in Vegas.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, soul food spot and the breakfast spot.

[Unc (Host)]

It's jumping like that. Ojo.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. Our people. Our people spit real good, you know?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know?

[Unc (Host)]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Real good food. Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Versace, Ari Ocho. Fried as hell.

[Joe Johnson]

What that mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, he said he took. He said he took a nap.

[Joe Johnson]

He said I'm fried.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Fried me like hot, don't it?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't smoke, man. He tripping.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I want some stewed chicken, some other fried pork chops. You eat pork? Ain't nothing.

[Unc (Host)]

Ain't nothing like a good soul.

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, who you telling?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Some good old corn. I'm talking about a good old cornbread that tastes like that look. That tastes like pound cake. Jalapeno or blueberry? Either one. I'm good. I'm good. Either what? Oh, man, I gotta find me. I gotta find me a place. I gotta find me a place.

[Joe Johnson]

I just told you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh. To that, man, that place was out the line was out the building, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, there's a reason why I was.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Out the building, and there's a reason why I didn't stop. So we had two reasons. The food good, and I don't like to wait. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Hey, fam. Joe, I see that you're very good at this. Doing yoga. I would love to see Unc and Ocho do yoga with you. Oh, nightcap episode.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah. We gotta get y' all in there, man. Just one class. I got. Joe, you can't deny it if you ain't tried it.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, I can't. Hey, Joe. I can't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I could do a split, front to back.

[Unc (Host)]

We get them hips back, right? That's what you don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No more surgeries.

[Unc (Host)]

Listen, listen, listen, listen. Them bands you got in, them hips need to be stretched out. That's all they need to be. You need to stretch them bands.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I gotta make sure. I'm gonna make sure. These screws stay in there.

[Unc (Host)]

I'm gonna get y' all in there one day.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm gonna get y' all in there. I used to do all that Pilates, all that stuff on the reformer.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, I still. I still love doing that on the reformer. Uncle Ocho, you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you.

[Unc (Host)]

You mix that Pilates in your game, that reform of Pilates, boy. Hey, the hell you looking different out here, for real.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I can't sit down that long, Joe. If I'm not playing a video game, I can't sit down. Joe.

[Unc (Host)]

Like what? Your mind just be racing?

[Joe Johnson]

It won't slow down, Joe. When I was playing, Joe, I ain't even stretched, Joe. You know, we go out to practice in the stress line. I'm talking. I'm in everybody line, Joe. I don't stress, man. I can't. I can't. I can't. I ain't getting massages when I played. I ain't. I ain't, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I just use special individual.

[Joe Johnson]

I wouldn't consider special. I just. I. I just. It's weird. It's weird. It just. And I. For some reason, I think it's one of the reasons I never got hurt, you know, Most of the time, people that are not that flexible, they don't get injured much, you know, I just. I don't. I don't know, man. Maybe it's a conspiracy theory that I. I came up with. I. I don't know. I just. Just sitting there and stretching and doing yoga and doing poses, and it's quiet. Nobody talking like, I. I can't do it.

[Unc (Host)]

I'm have. I'm gonna have some footage coming soon. Don't worry. I'm gonna have some footage for y' all coming.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Jo, chest flat on the floor.

[Joe Johnson]

You could do that, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I could. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe. I can't even touch my damn toe, Joe.

[Unc (Host)]

Oh, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, Joe. Hold on. Let me see if y' all can see this.

[Unc (Host)]

We got. Hey, hey, you gotta get them. Loosen up them hamstrings, man. Get that low. That low back gonna go to hurting on you now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right, boy, I can see you, but I wouldn't. You finna fall your ass out on your head in that chair.

[Unc (Host)]

That why I'm gonna say. What are you doing?

[Joe Johnson]

I'm trying to show you this as far as I can go down.

[Unc (Host)]

Oh, man, this don't look good, guys. Yeah, man, you gotta stretch some hamstrings out, Ojo. I know you guys. Listen, guess what? If you don't stretch them out, man, when you. By the time you turn 50, look, your back gonna bend the way out.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe. I can. I cannot go past my ankle. I couldn't go past my ankle when I was playing, and that's even worse.

[Unc (Host)]

So I got a question, Ocho. So when you go work out, you don't stretch before you work out? You be out there running around, doing like.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You don't do nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I just. I do. I go through, you know, the. The regular drills, obviously. I'm doing soccer stuff right now, Joe. I go. I go every morning. You know, high knees. Hey, what you call this right here?

[Unc (Host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

When you do that? I do that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Quad stretch. Then I do one lap around the field with the ball, and. And then I go. I go to work. Yeah, man, it's bad Joe. When it comes to stretching and eating. Right, Joe, I'm talking about. It's bad Joe, man, you got.

[Unc (Host)]

You gotta get right, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You.

[Unc (Host)]

You and old Cambodia, man. Y' all come see me. Baby girl. Love it, man. Trust me. Women love it, bro. They love that hot yoga and Pilates. They killing hot.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I don't.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't want my. If I'm gonna do yoga, I don't want it hot. Now. I do it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, you got to get it. Help you get into the poles. Cause your muscles are warm.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, you gotta. You gotta. You gotta warm up the muscles, joints, and tendons, Ocho, so they can. So we can open up, stretch them out and elongate them a little bit.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Get that elasticity.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I could do a jog. I could do a light jog or something before we. Before we do it. I don't need to be hot in there.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, man, it's hot yoga, Ocho. You got. You.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You can.

[Unc (Host)]

You gotta try.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Have you ever tried it before, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

You know damn well I ain't done no yoga now.

[Unc (Host)]

Oh, man. Ocho. Hey, boy, this would be some good footage, boy. We gotta get.

[Joe Johnson]

You gonna have everybody laughing because they can see. I'm not.

[Unc (Host)]

No, no, no, no. I ain't got nobody. I'm gonna have some people in there that y'.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All.

[Unc (Host)]

To the people who could demonstrate. So you can see, so you ain't lost. You know, I'm gonna have you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I've done beak room, and for me, I'm a sweater, so.

[Unc (Host)]

Me, too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I just. I mean, I couldn't keep enough fluid. I mean, I'd be locked up, you know?

[Unc (Host)]

Now we get. We get you. We'll get you a knife.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm a sweater.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey.

[Unc (Host)]

Hey, hey, we'll get. Yeah, yeah, we'll get you. We'll get you right. We'll get you right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Scruffy, last night you messed up my hometown's Goldsboro. Done called it Goldsberg. I called it Colesboro. That's worse than Ocho. Ralia shaking my head. Goldsboro, North Carolina. Not a dude. Ocho with cup getting his second super bowl of his career. Would you rank him? Where would you rank him? All time receivers, bro. He only had two 1000 yard seasons. What we doing? He had a phenomenal triple crown season. That was the greatest receiver. That's the greatest singular receiving season in NFL history. When you look at it in his totality, the 147 catches, the 1900 yards, the touchdowns, and then he followed it up with the postseason that he had and win Super Bowl MVP is phenomenal. But God, what we doing now? What we doing? Lee Mason, man, Ocho only put it up two points in 20 minutes. So team still be taking. Yeah, we saw. We saw you in that. In that charity game, Ocho. Now who spurs legend Pritchard Jo Wil numbers on oo. I believe it.

[Joe Johnson]

No, he won't because that. That's one on one. I was in a game where he God said, listen, continue to facilitate. Facilitate the ball to me because I got a bet on the game. He had a bet on the game with. With Gilly and I didn't. I didn't want him to lose that. That was a whole lot of money and I didn't want to be the reason lose. So I wasn't doing no scoring rebounding. I'm here, I'm kicking back out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But hey, Pritchard, you wasn't doing none of that. Yeah, you heard me.

[Joe Johnson]

How tall is Pritchard, Joe?

[Unc (Host)]

He bought your height. He about six two.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm 63. Oh, oh.

[Unc (Host)]

He.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, oh.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't ever play with me like that, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That man getting 30 and 40 in an NBA game against NBA players.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hold on. Hey, what that got is that's five on five. It's just me and him, money or no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, Ocho, it's one on one. The great basketball players in the NBA are great one on one players.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, do me a favor. What's, what's Pritchard? First name Peyton. Hey, Peyton Pritchard, do me a favor. At some point in the off season, please come to Miami. We gonna film it. You know, me and you one on one and Joe on the sideline. I' ma wash you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You might not score a point. I know.

[Joe Johnson]

Wash I' Ma wash you.

[Unc (Host)]

I know. I'm putting my money.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'll do everything I got.

[Joe Johnson]

With all due respect. Hey, Peyton Pritchard. So I'm calling his name pp. I'm gonna call him PP Yeah, I'm giving a nickname.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All I said is, hey, that bad that that you might not score a bucket.

[Joe Johnson]

So who said so?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So.

[Joe Johnson]

So basically none of y' all believe in me. That's what you say, right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't.

[Joe Johnson]

No.

[Unc (Host)]

See, this is.

[Joe Johnson]

This is exactly how my teachers did me in high school when they told me I wouldn't go to mountain or nothing. This is exactly what they did.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You ain't beat no current NBA player. I don't care what your teachers told you.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What's up, big three? It's my birthday today. Turned 33. Can you give me a birthday shout out? Love the show. Mexico loves ocho. Absolutely. Happy 33rd birthday.

[Unc (Host)]

Happy birthday, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Thank you for. Thank you for staying up with us. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. If that king won, would y' all agree to dunk contest with Aaron Gordon? Lac Levine is top three all time. I think so. For sure. I think it's the best dunk contest. It's number one that 2016.

[Unc (Host)]

Definitely think.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that thing nice.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, I definitely think it's top three for sure.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's the creativity that they were doing.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were doing dunks that, you know, we hadn't seen. They were very creative and they had so much style to it. Like, you know what was going to happen.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Boomer, 90. What's up, guys? Love the show. Can you give me February 13th and my mom February 8th, the birthday shout out, Boomer. And Anita, she would love it.

[Unc (Host)]

Thanks, guys.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Boomer, Anita. Happy. Well, you. Your birthday is tomorrow. Hers has already passed, so happy belated. Happy belated birthday, Anita. Which is the mom, Boomer. And happy early birthday to you. Well, if you're on the east coast, it's already your birthday, so. Happy birthday, guys. Appreciate you supporting and watching nightcap because all because of you, all this is possible. So happy birthday.

[Unc (Host)]

Have fun, guys.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Mike, Mike. What's up, big three solution for the pro bowl and all star legends. Who game is legends versus current players? Shout out to Ocho for the idea.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I like that.

[Unc (Host)]

I mean, look, legends versus.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, flag.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know what it's like in the NBA, but most of the legends in football got artificial hips, got artificial knees. They not doing nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

Bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They played in the air. They played in the air. It was real big, boy. Grown man physical football.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah but it's just skill positions though. Just skill positions. You know a few times running. Yeah they would have, they would have to know ahead of time to prepare themselves.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Huh? Ain't happening. These joker. You talking about guys that ain't ain't ran in years.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm still running though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Unc (Host)]

I can see Ocho dead Brian. I can see them getting out there.

[Joe Johnson]

It'd be fun. It'd be fun.

[Unc (Host)]

I ain't saying, I ain't saying they gonna do that.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe. The young boy gonna get this work Joe. Yeah, that'd be a nice crossover.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Woo pig. Aka Drew. We door my 7 year old autistic son Grayson Bright and he sweet but struggling lately with anger. I've done BJJ 10 years myself. Signing him up this summer help. Hoping it helps him and his sister too. Any experience with autism? I couldn't help you. I have absolutely not.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, me neither.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I see it and my heart goes out to, to people that have, that have kids and have to deal with it. That's something that, that's forever and that takes a lot of patience. Takes a lot of time. Yeah and, but I haven't had any dealing with it personally myself. So I would be the last one to try to offer you some advice. But hopefully it helps with the anger issues. But I'm sorry bro. I, I, I, I have nothing. A 1002012 was a big three, UNC. Would there be a live show in Atlanta this year? If so will the big three be all together? If there's a live show in Atlanta, you best believe the big three will be together.

[Joe Johnson]

What are we going.

[Unc (Host)]

Oh yeah. Y' all won't leave me out this one boy. Y' all come back.

[Joe Johnson]

When we going to Atlanta?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If there is a. If, if there's a, if there's a show in Atlanta, obviously Joe will be there.

[Unc (Host)]

Hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

So we doing Houston too?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We, we, we, we haven't decided yet. We, we're still, we're still wearing the arms.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know we got, hey, you know we got a huge fan base in Raleigh too now.

[Unc (Host)]

Yeah, I know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. After you watch the Los Angeles Lakers beat the Dallas Mavericks by the score of 124 to 100. The 104. LeBron James became the oldest player in NBA history to record a triple double. It was his first triple double of the season. He finished with a game high 28 points a game high 10 rebounds, a game high 12 assists as they win, win by 20. Thank you guys for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc and that is my partner and co host Liberty City's own Chad Ochocinko Johnson and University of Arkansas alum Arkansas Little Rock, Arkansas would say Arkansas Little Rock. Little Rock, Arkansas native, seven time NBA All Star. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank you for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth. You make all of this special. You make it worthwhile. Thank you. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by Laportier head to laportier.com if you cannot find it in a state or city near you. We have the OG bottle which is a 750, but we also now have the Junior, which is the 375. The same great quality, the same great taste, the same smoothness. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Again, thank you guys for joining us. We're off tomorrow and Saturday, but we'll see you back on Sunday. I'm Unk. He's Ocho, he's ISO. Thanks for joining us.

[Joe Johnson]

Peace.

[Unc (Host)]

Peace out. Sa.

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