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Ocho Cinco
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Chad Johnson
That's gonna be a good one. Listen, the Ravens played the Giants today. You know, you don't get a pat on the back for that. You don't get a pat on the back for beating the goddamn Giants. Now obviously we know what Lamar's record is against the Steelers. It hasn't been good since he's been in the NFL. I think for them this would be a playoff of not only a playoff atmosphere game, but the type of team you would have to face in the playoffs. So they have a good Showing would be. It would behoove everybody that's a part of that organization, including Lamar. They have a good showing against the Steelers this Saturday. You know, I mean, to do what you did to the Giants, you know, that's cool. It's a nice warmup. It's a tune up. I call it a tune up game for the real game come Saturday. And I.
Ocho Cinco
Because if I'm not mistaken, the Steelers also. The Steelers and the Chiefs are one of the three teams that played this three games in 11 days, right? Yeah, because. Yeah, yeah, because they play. Because the Steelers play Saturday and then they turn around again and play Wednesday. And if I'm not mistaken, I think the Ravens do the same thing.
Chad Johnson
See, everybody got to do it. Shouldn't be. Ain't no. Ain't no excuses. Put your big boy. Put your. Put your big boy briefs on that. Let's go.
Ocho Cinco
But that was. That was the thing. Like you said, Lamar had was 21 of 25, 295 touchdowns. He was sacked twice. Josh Johnson even came into the game. They ran the ball 31 times for 170 yards. Lamar has 6 for 65. Derek Henry was 14 of 67. Hill had 2 for 7. Ali had 8 for 32. But see, that's the balance that you need. When they run it more than they throw it, they win. It's not that complicated. Now, look, bro, the Giants, I mean, their NFL team, but barely. If it was soccer, they'd have got sent down to the lower league. You know what I'm saying? They'd have been playing so bad. You know how they demote some team? They would have gotten demoted. They would have gotten demoted. But this is what you have to do. When you go on the road and you playing a team that you know you're better than, you don't dilly dally around with them. You go ahead, you kill a net with a sledgehammer. You let them know, here we go again. Yeah, you damn right. Get your ass up out of here. So by the third quarter, I want the fans. I want the 50,000 fans that came. I want them to start filing out of there, and I want more planes to come over here with more banners. Hey, we're gonna be back, and we're gonna keep doing this until you find everybody and it couldn't happen to it. I. I wonder. You know what? When is John Maher gonna read some letters? Because he was quick to tell you about the letters that he wrote that he. That he read of how angry the fans were. What Colin Kaepernick read some of the fans letters now. Tell us what they think. Nobody asked you about the fans. Nobody asked you what the fans were saying when they wrote you letters and you read them now we're asking you.
Chad Johnson
He know.
Ocho Cinco
He can you read some of the fan letters?
Chad Johnson
Better he know better. He. He could read the room. Read the room. Brother John read the room. He know what time it is?
Ocho Cinco
Yes. It ain't getting ready anytime soon.
Chad Johnson
Absolutely.
Ocho Cinco
Not until you get a quarterback. I don't care. I don't care who come in there. No, you gotta have a quarterback and they don't have one. And I hope Shador doesn't go there either. The Beagles beat the Titans 37. 27. Burrow had another big performance through his 30, his league leading 36 touchdown pass on the season, which broke his own franchise record with three games to go. But he also had two picks and a fumble. T. Higgins signs Jamar Chase agent. Oh, T. Higgins. Oh, I didn't know Chase was with Rock. Rocky Arsenal. Yeah, he was a Marshall Fox agent. He's also. He was Zeke. He's Zeke Elliott agent. So I've been knowing Rock, man. I've been knowing Rock 20 years. He always told me, man, you'll never give me no love. I didn't know I was supposed to get agents love, but now here. He a cool dude. He a good dude. I like Rock a lot. Like I said, I've been knowing rock 25 years. Ever since he was coming over to the Pro bowl with Marshall. Joe Burrow was 26, 37, 271, three touchdowns, two interceptions with a fumble. Chase Brown had 25 carries, 97 yards of touchdown. They had 26 rush attempts, 101 yards. Chase finally did not get in the end zone. Somebody finally kept him under 100 yards. He had nine catches for 94. Higgins had five for 86, but did have a tub. The only thing, look, they really would have had a tough night because Burrow, he had nice numbers, but he didn't play particularly well. Ocho, the only thing that saved him, you know who he was up against? Who is up against Ocho?
Chad Johnson
Will Levis.
Ocho Cinco
Will Levis through his league leading 4th pick, 6. He had 3 ints. Mason Rudolph came in, said, you know what, Will? I can't leave y'all here hanging. I'm gonna throw one so you don't feel left out.
Chad Johnson
Tennessee bad. I don't. I don't know who's worse. I don't know who's worse. Giants, Tennessee. Who else in that group? Who else in that group of them? It's the Jags. Oh, yeah, the Jags.
Ocho Cinco
It's almost the Raiders. The Raiders.
Chad Johnson
The Raiders. The Raiders. The Raiders in that group too, man. It got to the point I'm watching the game of football and I love the game of football and I love good, consistent quarterback play and I understand how important the quarterback position is when it comes to competing against another team. You. You're only good as your quarterback. And the C wheel lever. Yeah, the C will leverage play the way he plays. Based on what I see what he can possibly be if he just protect the ball. It's like, it's like. I don't want to say waste the talent. It's like it's bad. Somebody. Somebody got to get a hold of him and really meant a little bit, man, and get him to. When I look at him, I look at him like a. Like a Dan. Like a Josh Allen, man. Just big, mobile, dual threat type quarterback. It just. His decision making is.
Ocho Cinco
I wouldn't think it's horrible.
Chad Johnson
His decision making is horrible or maybe his accuracy. I don't know which one it is.
Ocho Cinco
And in order for him to be quarterback, the team that he's playing against, they can't have on white in their jerseys because they got white in Tennessee. And he think that's his teammates.
Chad Johnson
Damn, man.
Ocho Cinco
Bro, I'm like, bro, I'm like, Ocho. And then your guys had a pick six that he let fumble the ball out of the end zone. That was a touchback. So they end up could have been 40, 40. So the game could have been blown open way. I mean, 27, 37. And it like, respect. It really wasn't that close. I mean, it was close early because once Burrows stopped turning the ball over, the game got kind of got out of hand. But. But see, here is the thing everybody says now, he had three turnovers a day. They won the game. Had they lost like they did the Steelers, what role did those three turnovers play? Because y'all blame the defense on you? Did you. Did you blame the defense? So does three turnovers play a role in your team losing?
Chad Johnson
Yeah, it does. It does. I mean, if that's what had happened. But that's not what would happen. We won the game.
Ocho Cinco
But it did happen against the Steelers.
Chad Johnson
It did. It did. It did.
Ocho Cinco
Okay. Okay, we could. Okay, we can move on then. Oh, Joe. Will Levis was benched. The Titans had six turnovers, four of them. You got to practice in order to be this bad, you gotta practice. So you go out there and say, hey, we're not having any completions. We want to throw incompletions and turnovers. Ain't no way you that bad. You practice. That's what I would get frustrated by, man. I'm putting all this time in, I'm watching all this tape, and I. And my quarterback keep.
Chad Johnson
Make. Keep messing up. And listen, I know how you feel.
Ocho Cinco
Is them. Is them jeans that they used to wear. I don't know if they still wear them, but I'm from the south, so those. Those. Those girls used to wear those jeans with no back pockets on them. We used to call them smooth booties.
Chad Johnson
I. I ain't never.
Ocho Cinco
They have no back pockets.
Chad Johnson
I ain't never heard of them.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, yeah. The more chick jeans. You ain't never. You remember. Hey, hey. Somebody in the chat go look good. Them chick jeans. Chick chic.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. I ain't never heard that.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, boy, the girl had the thing.
Chad Johnson
Hold on, hold on. What area? What area? Wherever y'all was from down the 80s.
Ocho Cinco
80S.
Chad Johnson
I know, I know the 80s, but what I mean, so in Atlanta, everywhere.
Ocho Cinco
Everybody had chick jeans. Yeah, you better tell them. You better tell them.
Chad Johnson
Anybody. Anybody in the chat. We had those in Miami. I ain't never heard of that.
Ocho Cinco
If. If you were somebody, you had a pair, they were a little expensive, too. So you know when you say expensive.
Chad Johnson
How much we talking? Like 30 back then. Back then, that. That's a lot. Yeah, yeah, you gotta tell me. I know.
Ocho Cinco
A boatload of money, baby.
Chad Johnson
That's a lot of money back then.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
I never heard of that.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think. Was it. Was it Farrell Foster, one of the. One of those angels, used to wear them and beat out Sassoon?
Chad Johnson
What you know about beat off Sassoon? What?
Ocho Cinco
Beat assess who had G. Yeah, yeah. Gloria Vanderbilt.
Chad Johnson
What you know about Gloria Vanderbilt? Now, that's throwback. I remember them names. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Ocho Cinco
They were back in the days. Ocho. Lord. Ocho. The Bucks run rough, shot over the Chargers. The bucks rack up 505 total yards. LA had 207. Mike Evans, 159 yards. Ocho, he's now 251 yards short. He needs to average 83.67 yards. So basically 84 yards a game over the last three games to get that. Oh, Baker, that's one thing about old shake and Bake now. Oh, shake and Bake. Hey, if you need something. Oh, Shaker Baker, get it to make sure I like that.
Chad Johnson
You gonna make sure you get it now. I'm sure and sure. Baker Mayfield, they gonna make matter of fact the coaches, the offense, the coordinator, they gonna make sure you get it.
Ocho Cinco
It should.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Ocho Cinco
So who ordered which angel wore those jeans? Was it Kate? Was it Farrah?
Chad Johnson
Farah who? Faucet.
Ocho Cinco
Fair faucet. Well, Farrah Fawcett, Majors. She's married to a six million dollar man.
Chad Johnson
The who?
Ocho Cinco
Maybe it was Suzanne Summers.
Chad Johnson
She was married to who?
Ocho Cinco
Oh, they, they had pictures. Baker was 22 of 27. 288 yards, four touchdowns, one pick, one sack. Bucky Irving 15 carries. Buck 17, White 15 carries, 64. They ran the ball. Ocho 39 times for 223. Justin Herbert was harassed. He had a pick, the sack three times. Tyler Heinecke came in one for 14 yards. But they really, really not a whole lot. Tampa did an outstanding job. Like I said, they pressured him. Levante David had a second and a half. Hall had a sack and a half. But they did a great job of neutralizing 11 carries for 32 yards. And that's what I'm saying. It's gonna be very interesting to see Tampa and Dallas because that's gonna tell us a lot. That's gonna really, really, really tell us.
Chad Johnson
A lot about who.
Ocho Cinco
No, I'm saying that that'll be an opportunity because if, if, if the Falcons lose tomorrow night and then the Tampa wins, they gonna win. They, they, they saw the division.
Chad Johnson
Hold on. But we, we know, we, we know what's gonna happen. We know how that game's gonna turn out. We know how that game's gonna turn out. Unless for some God forsaken reason, we see a different Dallas Cowboys, you know, and the goddamn Bucks lay a egg. I don't think, I don't think that's going to happen. Probably not. You know, especially with the way they're playing. That momentum is going to carry on into the next game.
Ocho Cinco
Somebody said was Farrah Fawcett. Yeah, I remember. Y'all ain't tell me it was fair. Faucet had them jeans on.
Chad Johnson
I used to talk to Farrah back in the day too.
Ocho Cinco
Huh? She from corporate.
Chad Johnson
Tell you.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, when she was on that, she had that, she had that red, that red bikini on that poster.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, that's that.
Ocho Cinco
The jets beat the Jags 32, 27. Jets snap the losing streak. Rogers 289 yards, three touchdown. As the jets, the Giants. The jets finally pull out a game in the fourth quarter. This was vintage Aaron Rodgers. Devonte.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, devonte again.
Ocho Cinco
He had back to back weeks in Florida what's the weather like right now in Florida?
Chad Johnson
We got a little cold front, so it's about 75.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. What's the weather like in New York?
Chad Johnson
All right. Hey, I'm so happy I'm out here now, right? Boys by 23. Boy. Boy by 23.
Ocho Cinco
Now look at, look at, look at his game last week against Miami. The weather. Look at that game this week against Jacksonville. Aaron Rodgers, he was 16 of 30, 289, three touchdowns. He only sacked once. Devonte, nine catches, a buck 98, second biggest, second best receiving day of his career. Two touchdowns, a 71 yard. He had nine targets. Mack Jones. I don't know what Mac Jones was thinking on that last interception. I'm like, bro, what are you doing? Do you not know the route? I guess it's around Ocho. If the corner is on top of you, you pull up. If you're on top of him, you throw it. Matt, you can see it, right? Oh, Lord.
Chad Johnson
Hey, hold on, Unc. So you trying to say now think about it. You think Aaron Rodgers is playing better in hot weather cities as opposed to cold?
Ocho Cinco
Hell yeah.
Chad Johnson
The man played in Green Bay all his life, man.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. And look at him now. Look how he played in the Jets. And look at the two warm weather games he had.
Chad Johnson
Right, right, right. You think that's not, you don't think that's just a coincidence or you really think he just playing good and. Okay, I like. Listen, you might be on to something now. You might be on to something.
Ocho Cinco
Yes. No, I have that posted with fair on it, man. The poster cost money back there. $1.52. Man. I. A channel shop. I had no money like that. And where was I gonna put it at?
Chad Johnson
You couldn't put it in the house?
Ocho Cinco
What, so you think my grandpa gonna put that bad? Stop playing. Oh, man, very important. We're gonna have that thing stick it on there. Stick it on that, that cinder block wall with Scotch tape. No, I had to wait. I got this Savannah State to put them Jet beauties on the wall. You remember the Jet magazine? But listen, but my wall was covered.
Chad Johnson
Hey, I, I, I, I never forget, bro. You know. You know, back, back in my day, man, I had, I had dated about a few, you know, a few of the Jet beauties of the week, bro. Yeah, all right.
Ocho Cinco
You know what? I always wanted me to Jet beauty. I ain't never met no yeah boy.
Chad Johnson
Shoot. I went on, I went on a date with about, about four or five of them, man. You know, tell you where they from. Yeah, tell you, where you're from, I used to go, you know, you hit the yellow pages, you know, name, name, name and everything being there, man.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, I'll be like, dang, I'm thinking about it now. As a matter of fact, I think I might have met one person that, that's ever been in a magazine. Who?
Chad Johnson
That? Who?
Ocho Cinco
I gotta find me a magazine. Do they. Hold on, I'm trying to think. Do they just. I mean, I ain't seen a magazine. So like, what's the magazine now? Fhm, Something like that.
Chad Johnson
They still got, they still got magazines like that, huh?
Ocho Cinco
Oh, yeah. I mean, I ain't been to the. Yeah, no, I know. I bet you the man, I go to the grocery store, I'm trying to get in and out. I ain't going to no magazine Out.
Chad Johnson
Hey, matter of fact, hey, listen, with social media, you don't even need magazines no more. Like, when you think about it, you don't even need magazines no more.
Ocho Cinco
You got a point, Ojo. You got a point. Now you know what I'm saying, Ocho? Now you. Hey, when you're right, you can't possibly be wrong. Good point, good point. But no, but look. Oh, Joe, I'm watching this game and, and, and, and, and look, he, he missed a throw here there. But because normally Rogers is not going to be 16 or 30. Rogers is normally 22 or 30, but he got going. He and, and Devonte had that thing going today. And this is Devonte. This is, you know, he and Devonte. When DeVontae was an all becoming an all Pro, Rogers was winning Back to back MVPs. This is how this connection looked for 16 games, not just a handful of games.
Chad Johnson
Now, do you think they can get back to this consistently though? I mean, obviously we at the end of the season, we at the end of the road, are we go.
Ocho Cinco
Hold on. Are they gonna, are they go. Are they gonna play, Are they gonna play Jacksonville again?
Chad Johnson
No.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, what about, what about your Dolphins? You know your Dolphins cook.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. They don't want no smoke with us.
Ocho Cinco
I just think as long as the weather's warm.
Chad Johnson
Hey, I'm telling you, I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen now. It takes, it takes a little small showings like today, they get people excited. That's in positions of power who can, who write the goddamn checks to bring somebody back. Well, you saw what he was able to do today in the second half. Yeah. Ain't no reason why we shouldn't bring him back because he gives our best chance to win. I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. Nope.
Ocho Cinco
But the jets get up, but it's over.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, it's over.
Ocho Cinco
Four and ten ain't going nowhere. That's it.
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The Texans defeated the Dolphins 20 to 12. Tour throws leads to Dubose getting stretched off the field. Ocho, what we gonna do about quarterback throwing balls like this? A man. They throw it. They throw an ambulance.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, that play was unfortunate. It was unfortunate. I think, you know, Tua plays very well on script, you know, on with. On timing plays and, you know, he sees a read and he just lets it go. I don't think he plays well off script, you know, when the timing of a play is disrupted. Disrupted, you know, based on what he sees defensively. It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. You never, I mean, listen, I'm not, I'm not a quarterback, but you never want to see a player or your teammate, you know, laid out like that, man, is a bad thing. It's a bad feeling. And I can only imagine how Tua felt.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, I thought that the. I mean, look, he went down, tour goes down and that really hurt them. But for whatever reason it's been, I mean, it's, it's like killed all the chemistry. I mean like, Tour and Tyreek don't have any chemistry anymore. Waddle Waddle had two targets, no catches. It's like the only guy that he has a connection with is Johnny. And we thought, look, OBJ got nicked up and they ended up releasing him. I just think injuries and age is just caught up with O2 ACL surgeries, O Joe, broken leg. You're getting older. He's not going to get the opportunity that he once did. I just. He's not going to be what he once was. And I think a lot. If you were hoping that you were going to see that Giants obj, that ain't happening. But I thought, had he not gotten injured in the Super Bowl, Ojo, I thought he was gonna be the mvp, because if you look at what the way he was building up in cooking and the way he had started that.
Chad Johnson
He was cooking, huh? Damn.
Ocho Cinco
But tour was 29 or 40, 196, three interceptions. Oo. The Dolphins defense isn't good enough to overcome those kinds of mistakes from Tua.
Chad Johnson
No.
Ocho Cinco
And here's the problem that he has, Ojo. Now, one of those picks Tyreek got. Tyreek, you gotta come down with the ball, bro. You can't let the ball. Let the guy take the ball out your hand. Now, he threw one to her, you know, you can't be laid on the out ball, man.
Chad Johnson
He hit.
Ocho Cinco
He is Stingley, bro.
Chad Johnson
Hey, Stingley's a real deal, huh?
Ocho Cinco
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Chad Johnson
Stingley is the real deal.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. But here's the thing, Ocho. From what I could deduce, because Tua doesn't have the strongest arm, he has to throw with such great anticipation, it gets him in trouble a lot. Because guys, like, they know it. They know you can't drive. You can't drive the ball, and you gotta let the ball go before you want to. And it's like, you know what? Sometimes I just, like. I just, like, could, like, wish I could just stand behind the quarterback so I can see what he said, so I can just tell him, no, don't throw it there. You don't see that man, okay? Oh, Joe. I realized, like, you don't see that man between him and your guy, are you? What, you gonna throw it through it?
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Damn, man.
Ocho Cinco
But The Texans win 95. They still top the division. One more win, they. They win the division, right? If they win Saturday, they win the division. Because, you know, Bronco Country. You saw. We did Bronco Country.
Chad Johnson
Oh, you saw the Bengals.
Ocho Cinco
Bronco.
Chad Johnson
I know. I heard you. I'm just saying who they.
Ocho Cinco
And Botino. Botino, you see him get that pick. They try to run a little lateral on up. Y'all can't do that. Don't try no fleet flicker play. We gonna pick it go 50, y'all.
Chad Johnson
Y'all all right?
Ocho Cinco
And then hit the Marshawn lynch on y'all.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Y'all all right. You. You. You realize. You realize who y'all played today, right?
Ocho Cinco
The. The Colts.
Chad Johnson
Okay, that. That ain't nothing to be like no. Be hooping and hollering about, beating. I'm just. I'm just saying, you know.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, hey, Jonathan. T o. What, are these guys gonna stop dropping the ball a little before they cross the inline? Oh, Jonathan Taylor, who's a. Who's an all pro? Yes.
Chad Johnson
I ain't see that. I saw. I saw a buddy from the Bangles do it. Oh, hey, that excitement, huh?
Ocho Cinco
Oh, Cho, Jonathan Taylor's been an all pro. He was one of the highest paid running backs. What, you mean the excitement? He's not a rookie.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, you right. You right.
Ocho Cinco
Brock Purdy reportedly seeking a contract at the top of the quarterback market, around $50 million a year. Whoa, whoa.
Chad Johnson
He don't need to be talking about no contracts right now at all, but go ahead.
Ocho Cinco
All I know is I ain't get him nowhere near no 50 million. I'll give you one of them on 35. 40 million.
Chad Johnson
Hey, what you think he gonna say? What you think you gonna say to that? No.
Ocho Cinco
Okay, you play on a. Play on. Guess what? We'll put you on a. We'll put you on what you call it for two years.
Chad Johnson
What? Princess hag. I bet on himself like Kirk Cousins.
Ocho Cinco
Okay, Let him bet every. You always hear the story of everybody betting and coming up big. What about them snake eye stories?
Chad Johnson
Oh, where they don't. Where they lose.
Ocho Cinco
There's a reason why those windows don't open in Vegas. You notice that, Ocho? You in the. You in the casino. Don't none of them rooms open. Those windows don't open. Duty. Hey, you. You. You ever ask yourself, man, why these rooms don't open? I want to get some fresh air.
Chad Johnson
Talk, talk and talk.
Ocho Cinco
Now, you ain't finna take the easy way out. Um, but what. Hell, no.
Chad Johnson
Hey, you know what? Hey, they might be stuck. They might. They might have no choice but to pay Purdy. Cause, listen, you don't want to pay him what he worth or what the market says he should be paid. Where else you going with? At the quarterback position. You have no one to replace them.
Ocho Cinco
I'm not paying him no 50 million.
Chad Johnson
You don't have a choice.
Ocho Cinco
Yes, you do got a choice.
Chad Johnson
They had a choice not to pay Daniel Jones.
Ocho Cinco
What did Tampa play Baker make?
Chad Johnson
40?
Ocho Cinco
33. 43 years. 100 million.
Chad Johnson
Okay, okay, I see. I see where you're going with. I said, oh, so you're saying he should have a big. A Baker Mayfield type contract. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, that's feasible. That's feasible. I'm not sure he's. He would even complain about that.
Ocho Cinco
He would. I'm not giving him no 50 million. That ain't happening, Josh.
Chad Johnson
I don't know. That quarterback position is very, very, very, very important. And sometimes if you want it bad enough, you will overpay for it.
Ocho Cinco
Well, 49ers will not release Devondre Campbell. 49ers are pursuing a max suspension, so Campbell doesn't get paid. Since he is a vested player, if they were to release him, he still gets the remainder on his contract. So if they suspend him, they get to withhold that. Now, that's something they're going to have to run by the league for the amount of time that they can suspend him. I'm thinking they're going to say conduct detrimental. What is the framework for conduct detrimental?
Chad Johnson
Hey, you see how they. You see how they trying to play with you?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, I would, too. You think I was. Hold on. So you want them to. You want them to release him and get. And he still get paid?
Chad Johnson
That's one thing. That's one thing about it, boy. Hey, they want to hit you with hurt. They want to hit you.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Take what they think you value most, that money.
Ocho Cinco
Ocho. Drake Greenlaw got Nick. He's the backup. So what did he do? Hit us where it hurt. We needed a body. He wouldn't go in the game. Fair is fair. Even swapping. You hit me where it hurt, I hit you with hurt. We both. Yes. I don't care if we both blind.
Chad Johnson
Damn. I, I, it. Did he. Did he come out and apologize or anything? Did he say anything? Did he talk to the team or.
Ocho Cinco
Man, I don't want to hear what he got to say because everybody talking about, well, you don't know what that man was going through. So I just want to know, was he going through it before the game or did it happen during the game? Because he. If he was going through something before the game, take your ass to Kyle Shanahan. Go to A. Lynch. John lynch, who's the general manager, said, man, I got a lot of my mind tonight. I got, you know, my family, blah, blah, blah, X, Y, and Z. He got mad because they activated Drake Greenlaw, and he went from a starter to a backup. That's why he got mad.
Chad Johnson
Hey, but Greenlaw, the real deal, boy.
Ocho Cinco
Stop. We gotta stop, Ocho. We got to stop making excuses. We try to. We try to excuse everything that a person does. You don't know what it was going through.
Chad Johnson
Wait, who, who tried to make that.
Ocho Cinco
Excuse for him, everybody. You. You know, hold on.
Chad Johnson
If you're in the middle of a football game, don't nothing else matter what's going on on the outside? Because in between them lines, that's your outlet, that shows the piece.
Ocho Cinco
Right?
Chad Johnson
That's your job.
Ocho Cinco
What? So. So it just happened. So whatever he had going on, Ocho, it just reared his ugly head when he put the pads on and at the third quarter when Dre Greenlaw got hurt. So it didn't happen. It didn't happen before the game. It Not. On the way to the stadium, he get a call, hey, something's going on with the fans, blah, blah, blah. He didn't. It didn't happen. Once he get to the stadium and an hour before the kickoff, it happened. It just so happened he started going through something the moment they needed him to step in the game for Dre Greenlaw. That's when he. That's when you don't know, Shannon, what he was going through.
Chad Johnson
I ain't trying to hear. I ain't trying to hear all that bucket. Whatever I'm going through, whatever I'm going through in life, I know once I walk in that stadium and I walk in that locker room, whatever I'm going through in life, it stays on the outside until. Until the game is over.
Ocho Cinco
Once you make that decision, Ocho, once you make that decision that you show up, you gotta show out. Yeah. You can't, Ocho. Now, like I said, if he has this going on before Ocho, it just so happened. It's funny. Don't you find it funny, Ocho? Whatever he started going through, it happened the moment Drake Greenlaw went down and they needed him.
Chad Johnson
I like that. I like how you just put that. That was nice.
Ocho Cinco
Oh. Now, I wonder, had he been going, if Dre Greenlaw is inactive, I wonder if he's still going through that same thing.
Chad Johnson
Not at all.
Ocho Cinco
So I. The 49ers, well, are well within their right to suspend them, and that's the whole thing. Ocho. I ain't got no problem if you got. If you work at regular 9 to 5, you just cannot show up. Well, I was going through something. Call your supervisor. Call your boss. Let somebody know. Man. Man, oo, Hit me up. Hey, oo's not gonna be able to make it today. He called me. He said he didn't have your number, but he wanted me to let you know that he had something going on at home. He had a personal issue that he got to deal with. He's sorry he wasn't able to tell you you just not gonna show up on the damn job, man. F that job, bro. There's a common decency, there's a common courtesy that you. And I'm not saying people don't have things, but you mean to tell me you don't have the common courtesy, the common decency, decency to just call and say, hey, I'm not gonna be able to come in today?
Chad Johnson
Yeah. That's crazy work, bro. That's crazy work.
Ocho Cinco
I, I, I just don't, I just don't get guy. Oh. So the Texans have clinched the AFC South. Cause we did it. We put foots in the Colts.
Chad Johnson
They did.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. We beat the brakes off.
Chad Johnson
No, I'm talking about. I, I didn't know they clinched, though.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, because once, once we beat the, once the Broncos beat the Colts, that gave them the division.
Chad Johnson
That's all right.
Ocho Cinco
An NFL executive described Kyle Pitts as one of the biggest disappointments I've ever scouted. He told Bob McGann. He also says Kyle Pitts is just going through the emotions. It seems like he's almost disinterested. Based off the films, one of the biggest disappointments I've ever scouted. Some flashes, but rarely regularly involved in the offense. Seems to go through the motion almost disinterested. Definitely a bus. Based on expectations and what they passed up. He broke on the scene. He was one of the, I think he was the second tight end in NFL history to go over 1000 yard receiving in his rookie season. Mike Dicker was the first one based on that. And I thought he was sensational at Florida.
Chad Johnson
Oh, he was great at Florida.
Ocho Cinco
He could move like a receiver. Big. Yes. Tremendous hands. Oh, he had, he had it all. Size, speed, catch, great hands. Catch the ball in traffic. High points, the ball. Great run after the catch.
Chad Johnson
Listen, at the, the injury, unc, the knee injury, the acl, I think that that slowed it down a little bit. That's all. That's all. Man. Listen, Kyle Pitts is phenomenal. And even now with a little limp and a little injury, he's still a mismatched nightmare. I just think they don't know how to use him the right way where he is. You can't have someone that played, listen, on the line with his hand in the dirt. He can, he can go, he can play in the slot. He can play a receiver. He can play, he can play all, he can do all these different things and all of a sudden now he gets to Atlanta and you know, you have him playing a traditional tight end type role when there's so many other ways that you can use them offensively, you know, I mean, they're just not using them to the best of his abilities. Now, I could be wrong. I just know that injury. That injury has affected him a lot.
Ocho Cinco
I will concede this. Desmond Ritter, Tyler Heineken, Hell, I don't know. Me, Gronk, Kellen Winslow the second, or Travis Kelsey could put up numbers with those guys. So let's not. Let's not pretend like he was with, you know, Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow or some of these other elite quarterbacks. He's not. But the one thing that you can do is that, like I said, I hadn't looked at it, but he said it looked like he's going through the motion. Excuse me. It doesn't seem like he's given max effort now. I get it if you're probably. If you're frustrated, Ocho, you're not getting. Cause, you know, one game, he gave 100, and then, hell, he goes two or three games, Ocho, he might get.
Chad Johnson
Like two or three times again. That's. That's all on the play calling, the creativity and allowing team to dictate whether you can get the ball or not. And I hate offenses that are run like that.
Ocho Cinco
It's like I said. Plus, when he was with Arthur Smith, I thought that was the perfect situation. Arthur Smith loves the tight end.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
And I think. I think, like his. Like I said, his rookie year, he was sensational. And we haven't. We haven't seen that since. I might have to get some. I might have to call and get some footage and some tapes and take a look for myself.
Chad Johnson
I think that. I think there is some truth to it. But going through the motions, I mean, nobody's actually going through the motions because it's actually on film. You're not going through the motion. Maybe this exec, whoever this exec may be, is finding a reason to hate. I hate execs that don't reveal who they're. Who they are.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, bro, I can't. You see what he got? Shams. You attached. When he attached the agent's name to.
Chad Johnson
It, so won't nobody talk to him no more.
Ocho Cinco
Bro, you can't do that. That's why they tell you off the record, you didn't hear from me. Okay, okay. Put it. Put phrase it however you want to, but just make sure it doesn't come back to me. Okay?
Chad Johnson
Okay, okay.
Ocho Cinco
It ain't that complicated. My sources. Who you don't worry about It.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, sometimes. But these sources. It's 20, 20, 20, 25. These sources need to stand 10 toes and let it be known. Forget the source. It's coming from me. I'm the horse. And I'm the mouth.
Ocho Cinco
Bro. I want to get that check. You think.
Chad Johnson
Hold on.
Ocho Cinco
Just to appease a. A player or a fan base? You think I'm gonna give up a 10 million dollar job just to appease y'all?
Chad Johnson
Okay.
Ocho Cinco
You not gonna do that either? No chance. Where you think these stories come?
Chad Johnson
They always come from somewhere. And it's always. It's always coming from inside the house. Huh? It's always coming from inside the house. Every time.
Ocho Cinco
All of a sudden. All of a sudden now. So how do you know somebody was talking about a trade or that somebody might be interested in trading the Heat might be interested in trading. Yeah, Jimmy, these stories just don't appear.
Chad Johnson
Out of the blue house. Knock, knock, knock.
Ocho Cinco
Travis Hunter. Where's the Heisman? Aston Jente says I should have walked away with it. Internet is an uproar. Prime having to get Travis fiance to stand celebrate his win. Then she was filmed giving him attitude for taking pictures at a scheduled event. Am I supposed to sit here all day? Hunter's relationship with his fiance has been under scrutiny since his college football career took off. Things seems to have gotten people online with a couple dead on the IG Live where their fiance admitted she wasn't initially attracted to him. Fans took that situation to the next level when they assumed she was annoyed by him in the clip of the interaction between the couple, which led many to believe she wasn't truly in love with him. Guys, everybody, I think that's watching this show have probably been in a situation where they've had a parent that's told them, young woman or young guy, I don't want you to see that person. And the more they tell you they don't want you to see that person.
Chad Johnson
What do you try to go see him?
Ocho Cinco
Y'all done told a man. Now the man went and got a fiance. Y'all keep talking to, man. She's in the commercial. I get it, I get it. You don't want the man to be taken advantage of. Nobody does. And hopefully coach prime is able to say, bro, you will. You love this woman. I'm happy for you, but just protect yourself. Protect your wealth down the road. But y'all don't dictate anything. And the more y'all. Y'all don't see it, the more. And I get it. Yeah, I would have thought she see everybody else standing. She's still sitting down. I saw Coach prime was hugging his mom and he asked her to stand up. Maybe she don't know what she don't know, but I just thought that, hey, I see everybody else take their hat off, I'm gonna take my head off, too. I see everybody else stand, I'm gonna stand. That's just me, Ocho. I'm not saying everybody. And sometimes the mistake that we make is that we think everybody sees things as we do. Yeah, but guys, y'all gotta let the man make his mistakes. He'll figure it out, hopefully sooner than later. But he loves this woman. This is not an act. And y'all not gonna. If y'all think y'all talking about he told y'all he does stuff now to tick y'all off. He told you that. So the more y'all try to pull them apart, all it does is drive them closer together.
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Ocho Cinco
Look, I want the young man to be happy. I know a guy that's doing the same thing. I ain't gonna let y'all. That's why I have my dog at the dinner table. Y'all ain't gonna run issue here. And guess what? I bought me some Lou. I bought some Lululemon and aloe that's a size smaller than what I normally get. And I'm going because y'all don't run nothing but your mouth. Y'all try to run every y'all worried about that man relationship and I guarantee you 75% of you got effed up relationships.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, matter of fact, y'all worried about something.
Ocho Cinco
Oh so I just read a study. A lot of women get divorced only to be involved with a married man. Make it make sense. Stop trying to tell people what to do. Guys, I want Travis Hunter to do the best that he possibly can. I want him to be smart. And he's about to come into more money than he ever dreamed of. More than he ever dreamed of. And I wanted to protect himself. But, guys, y'all can't try to guilt this man and talk about, oh, she. We all done been some. Been with somebody that initially wasn't attracted to us, whatever the reasons may be.
Chad Johnson
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute.
Ocho Cinco
Let's.
Chad Johnson
Let's simmer down. Let's, let's, let's. Let's come back. Come back down there because I'm a sex symbol. You hear me?
Ocho Cinco
Ocho?
Chad Johnson
You are everybody.
Ocho Cinco
But I guarantee you there are some women that if you were not Ocho Cinco, you did not play with the Bengals. You did not make millions. You couldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. I know that. You know that.
Chad Johnson
Okay, let me finish now. Okay, now, for one, when I get a haircut, I'm a different. I'm a different dude.
Ocho Cinco
I'm different now or in high school.
Chad Johnson
In high school. Even now. Even now, too.
Ocho Cinco
Okay, how about before I had money? Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah, exactly. Hey, I. I had him. I had him when I, you know, I. I won. You know, I had a little. I had a little, you know, fit it all on me. That's about it.
Ocho Cinco
You had what Ocho could get. But once Ocho started making money, guess what? The level of lady that he dealt with increased also. That lady wouldn't talk to you with a little 50 in your pocket. Now you got 50,000 in your pocket. Now you driving. You living in a big crib in Miami. Now you able to go place. Let's be. I keep it 1000 with y'all. Y'all know how it is. And I'm cool. Look, I understand, but all I'm saying is that sometimes you've got to bump your own head to realize how much it hurts. I can't tell you Ocho. Ocho can't tell you. Your mom or dad can't tell you that if you bump your head on that pole, it's gonna hurt. You gotta bump your own damn head. Now, if y'all don't believe this man care about this woman. The man is in college and he already proposed to her his first commercial. Michael Jordan never put his wife. LeBron never. Kobe never put. She's in his first national spot. Huh? Adidas. She's in the spot. That's not an accident. Hey, that's not an accident.
Chad Johnson
Ain't you supposed to put your people on? Huh? Ain't you supposed to put your people on? That's. That's. You know. You know, you're supposed to put. When you're dating somebody, you're supposed to put them in position, you know, like that's. That's what you're supposed to do, huh?
Ocho Cinco
Ocho, let's get the elephant in the room. You know the elephant?
Chad Johnson
What it is?
Ocho Cinco
You know the elephant?
Chad Johnson
Because I don't even know.
Ocho Cinco
I don't even know what Kendrick say. Not like us. Oh, not like.
Chad Johnson
Oh, they were. Oh, they worry about that. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So there wouldn't be no elephant in the room if it was one of us. Okay. I don't believe I see what you're saying, but they don't ever be happy no wedding. No matter what, huh? No matter what. If it is. If it was one of us, then the problem with the issues online would be something else. It would be a hair.
Ocho Cinco
What. What is it about her?
Chad Johnson
I don't like the way she dress. She too short. Why you with that fat girl? It'll always be something either way. That's just. That's just us. You know how we. We nitpick at any and everything, whether it be ethnicity, whether it be color, whether it be height, whether it be weight. It's always something if you.
Ocho Cinco
Ocho, man, why you. I like who like me, right? I like who like me, right? I ain't trying to convince you and trace you down and tie you down. Oh, why you don't like me, bro? Not. Not in today's time. Why. Why do you even care? I don't care. Hey, look here. I don't care if the man married a goat because you know. You know why, Ocho? Cutting. I. Nothing to do with me. I ain't gotta feed it. I ain't gotta tend to it. I ain't gotta pick up after it. So why. I mean, what I. I never understood.
Chad Johnson
You know how it is.
Ocho Cinco
I don't have to. Ocho. My grandma used to always say, I don't have to see what you see in that person because I don't have to be with them because that. The quick. They quickly say, I don't see what she see in him. I don't see what he's seeing her. You don't have to. You're not with them.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah. I wonder. I wonder, too. I wonder if anybody ever.
Ocho Cinco
If you like them. I love them, man. What you Think of people used to ask me all the time, what you think about this? What you think? What you think about your. Look here. When Kiara said, daddy, I want to get married, I sat him down. I said, you sure, bro? I said, you fairly young. He said, yeah. He's like, daddy, we've been together only second girlfriend.
Chad Johnson
Okay, Right, right, right, right, right.
Ocho Cinco
What you. I said, key same thing I told his mama. I said, if he like her, I love him. I said, that's the man they got to spend. He knows her. I just want what's best for my son. She treat my son good. I'm. I'm Gucci. Yeah, it is. I've been the guy that you know. Hey, she had to leave that girl alone, man. Please. First chance I get. Shannon's death. Hey, real talk. Shannon is there. And the more they tried to tell me not to. The more I wanted to. And the more her parents told her to leave me alone, the more a.
Chad Johnson
Hey, were you shut at? Yeah, listen, I've been there. I've been there before. I've been there before.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
I was supposed to child for that is not the one you want to bring home to me. I was supposed to try for that.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
You know, but I was fun. I was fun. I'm unpredictable. You hear me? I'm excited. I'm exciting. You know, it just. It is what it is.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, it was like. It's not like. Well, you know, if he wasn't with her, he would be with me and they quit. And the thing about y'all don't need to worry about O'Shea pockets Shay gonna be good. If she wanted. If she wanted to date a hundred women at a time, bank account still gonna be flying. Don't worry about shake Y'all call it what you want to y'all once y'all realize all that name calling all that stuff. Travis this and Travis dad and Shannon. Oh, whatever. I'm just trying to figure out what ups. Why does it upset you guys so much? Who's Travis with this or that? Why does it upset. Just tell me why, right? Tell me what you get. Tell me what bill that Travis was going to pay for you that he's with her now. That's not going to get paid. Tell me the car that you were going to get, but now you're not going to get because Travis with her.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. I say the life we live in.
Ocho Cinco
The only thing I would tell him say, bro, protect yourself because love today might not be love tomorrow. And when people get angry now, when people get Angry.
Chad Johnson
You get to see. You get to see them true colors.
Ocho Cinco
I'm gonna hit you where get to.
Chad Johnson
See them true colors.
Ocho Cinco
That's it. That's the only thing I would tell him, bro, if that's who you love, be with who you love. That's the only. That's the only thing I would tell him. Oo just protect yourself. But sometimes, sometimes. Oo we had to find our stuff on our own.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
We can't protect. We cannot protect our kids and our friends from everything. We try. I try to tell. I try. I try to give my daughters a view. But not only a male, not only a father, but a professional athlete now a guy that's in the media. So I try to give it to my daughters two different. Three different ways. I'm your dad first and foremost. That's what I care about. But let me tell you what when a guy says this, what he's actually thinking, Let me tell you this. Let me tell you X. Let me tell you why now do with that what you make at the end of the day. My kid grown many thirst. What hell am I? Hell, they ain't really want to listen to me when they were teenagers. Whatever. What they gonna do now? What I would do now? Put them on punishment.
Chad Johnson
You right.
Ocho Cinco
They live on their own anyway. They pay their own bills anyway. Oh, yo, the best cities for dating was Miami. The best city for dating. Atl, Georgia. What can they do?
Chad Johnson
Atl, Number one.
Ocho Cinco
Yes, it's number one. Guess what? Las Vegas, Nevada.
Chad Johnson
Vegas. Okay, okay.
Ocho Cinco
Number three is Seattle, Washington. Number four is Pittsburgh. Number five is Tampa, Florida. Number six is Portland, Oregon. Madison, Wisconsin.
Chad Johnson
Wisconsin.
Ocho Cinco
Cincinnati, Ohio.
Chad Johnson
Where?
Ocho Cinco
Cincinnati, Ohio. Nah, I just had speed on Speed. Said them girls twos and fews.
Chad Johnson
Nah, Speed. Don't know what he talk about speed on Denver, Colorado.
Ocho Cinco
Austin, Texas.
Chad Johnson
Okay, I.
Ocho Cinco
The worst states, the worst place for dating. Jackson, Mississippi. Dad, what's wrong?
Chad Johnson
What's wrong?
Ocho Cinco
Yonkers, New York, Mississippi. I guess it's the worst place for dating. Grand Prairie, Texas. Warwick, Rhode Island. H. Glendale, California. Columbia, Maryland. Brownsville, Texas. Port Lucy, Florida. And Pearl City, Hawaii.
Chad Johnson
I don't. I don't like this list. I don't like this.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. I don't know how. Houston.
Chad Johnson
Listen, the. The funny thing about it. Forget. Forget the list. Depending on what you want and what you're searching for, you can actually find it anywhere. You can find anywhere, no matter where you are, you know, it doesn't matter. You could be under a rock, you'll be able to find something you like and something that you can, you can deal with and chew with. You could be on Mars. You can find something you like and some you could chill with. Yeah, it just doesn't matter where you at. It just your, your chances increase.
Ocho Cinco
Man, sit your philosophical ass down and let us, Let us check. Yeah, y'all see what he's trying to do? What, man, we having us a good old time, but, man, this man doesn't kill my buzz.
Chad Johnson
What? I'm just saying. I'm, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just saying, you know, I've been able to be anywhere and just. And you know, but, hey, Chad, let.
Ocho Cinco
Me tell y'all, son, you know, he feeling real good by himself, so, you know, they happen. You know, I was earlier, before we got on, my niece was on the phone, and, you know, he was, he was happy, you know, so, you know, that's what it is. So y'all forgive it now?
Chad Johnson
I'm just, I'm just bringing, I'm just breaking things down for you a little bit. You know, most everybody in the chat is younger than me. No, I'm 56.
Ocho Cinco
Hello. Hey. Rail Real watching. Rel said she was gonna be watching tonight. She's talking. He ought to see your spot. Chat. I wish y'all could. I should have filmed it. I should have had Jordan filming and then played it back. Y. Why you feel, why you all smiling like that?
Chad Johnson
I don't, I don't recall when this happened. I'm just asking. I was just trying to talk about the state that you were talking about that jo.
Ocho Cinco
He had the phone. Hey, oh, oh, guess who it is. Look who it is right there. My baby. That baby on the phone.
Chad Johnson
I did that?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, you did that.
Chad Johnson
I, I, I don't recall. I, I, I don't recall that was tonight.
Ocho Cinco
All right, look down, look down at your phone. He probably stop playing with me. Oo, no, she call you Chad. Stop playing with me, Chad.
Chad Johnson
No, no, that, that, that. I, I don't, I don't recall. I mean, Honestly, it's after 12:00, too. I, I don't know nothing like that. I remember nothing that happened yesterday. Damn.
Ocho Cinco
But he happy, Chad. He happy. He happy and we glad to have him back. We glad to have. Because we had Chad. Like the last month and a half. We had Chad. We got OO tonight.
Chad Johnson
You know, snitches get stitches, huh?
Ocho Cinco
Oh, my bad.
Chad Johnson
Damn.
Ocho Cinco
No, I mean, I be the chat. I be the chat happy Chad. Y'all can tell. Can. Y'all can tell he happy.
Chad Johnson
Ain't it? I'm always happy uncle.
Ocho Cinco
I'm.
Chad Johnson
I'm the same. I'm. I'm the same energetic self always, you know, Chad. Always. I be. I'm lit.
Ocho Cinco
Dad. Has oo been him? Has oo been himself? Absolutely.
Chad Johnson
I have a job. I have a job.
Ocho Cinco
Are you the chat.
Chad Johnson
I'm telling you about me. I got a job to do. When it. When it. When I come on here and it's time to work, I'm. I'm here. I told you. I'm. Told you. I'm like a horse at the Kentucky Derby now. I got my blinders on. I'm focused.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, man. Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Chad say no, but anyway, he got it. They say you look like you glow.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I'm blowing up because I got on makeup from goddamn.
Ocho Cinco
Just.
Chad Johnson
I just come out the show.
Ocho Cinco
I know why he glowed up.
Chad Johnson
I'm good, man.
Ocho Cinco
Hey. Yeah, you know, somebody get that phone. He's all close to it, too. Hey, how you doing? Hey, my baby. Too much information. Don't. Yo.
Chad Johnson
I'm just trying to figure out what you're talking about. I don't remember. I don't know. I don't know. I'm trying to figure out when this happened.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, you. They say you. They say, like the last month and a half, two months say you've been acting.
Chad Johnson
The only thing I listen. I unusual. I've been working. I got 57, 11 30, 11 jobs. So that's all.
Ocho Cinco
That's.
Chad Johnson
That's been my focus, you know, getting. Getting to this bag. You feel me? You hear me?
Ocho Cinco
I don't really.
Chad Johnson
I don't really. I don't really show it, but I.
Ocho Cinco
Can'T wait to see. I can't. I. I ain't waiting. Don't worry about it. I can't wait to see. Real ig to see what she get for cripple.
Chad Johnson
From who? Santa?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Oh, ball head Santa.
Chad Johnson
I ain't got it.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, you got it. Oh, you got it, bro?
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I ain't got it. I ain't got it, boy. I ain't got. Looking rough, bro.
Ocho Cinco
S a text real the color and I'm I mentioned in the Ocho.
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Ocho Cinco
Now it's time for our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Spider Claw said this for Travis Hunter. It wasn't a dry eye in the house. It wasn't a dry eye in America. I don't cry much, but, man, I cried for this young man. It was, I mean, look, the love that he showed Coach prime because he said Coach prime was the one that believed in him and said that, you know, I can play both sides of the ball. And prime treated him like his own son. He's always looked out after me like, you know, he trusted, he's trusted Coach prime because a talent like this, the likelihood of you getting the number one overall college high school player to come to an HBCU is not very good at all. And then he followed. He trusted him so much. When he left, he could have went to a lot of. There are a lot of D1 schools that had the bag for him. He says, no, I believe in Coach Prime. Coach Prime. I follow Coach prime to J State. I'm going to follow him to see you. And it's more than nobody in the history of college won more awards in a season than what this young man did this year. He won the Bnikov. He won the Nagursky. He won. No, he won the McNair. He won the Ronnie Lott. He won the Heisman. He was, he, he won it all. And you can tell, you can tell he's such a humble kid. He wants to do the right thing. Yes, he's green. Yes, he's young. We were all young. We were all green. We all made mistakes. But it's hard not to root for the kid. It really is. And I know, look, I know people like Genti should have won. And either Santa J, you know, look, and look, we've seen guys have rushing seasons like this. We've never seen. And we might not ever see a guy do what he's been able to do on both sides of the ball at the level in which he's done it. I'm not take snaps out of it. People like snaps is not a stat. Do you believe. Have you ever seen anybody in your lifetime. I'm talking about somebody 50 or younger, so I'm gonna say between the ages of 50 and 35. Have you ever seen somebody at the collegiate level play at the level in which he played this year? No, I don't believe you can say you can. And that's why he won the award. So I'm happy for him. I'm happy for his family. It was. It was. It was great. His speech was great. Well deserved. Well deserved. Pete up said uncle. Don't your settles with. Settles settle with you or money jump funny. Next time you have to eat a jar of black licorice during the show.
Chad Johnson
Black licorice? Hell, no. But who drink well black? Would you. I don't even know you buy black licorice at.
Ocho Cinco
No, I don't either.
Chad Johnson
I ain't. I don't do that. What?
Ocho Cinco
But I tell you one thing. I'd rather eat black licorice than candy corn.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Damn wax candy corn.
Ocho Cinco
You eat. You like candy corn?
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Why you tripping?
Ocho Cinco
Nah, nobody with old people.
Chad Johnson
I can't do no black licorice. Not. I can't do no black. L. You put some goddamn candy corn. Boy. Talk to me.
Ocho Cinco
Absolutely. Yeah, we saw Barry Raccoon.
Chad Johnson
But you won't eat candy corn.
Ocho Cinco
No, I sure won't.
Chad Johnson
You eat. You eat pig feet, but you won't. You won't. I. I'm gonna leave it alone. You know what?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, you and you eat booty, but you won't eat black licorice. They both black.
Chad Johnson
One of them coming out the shower.
Ocho Cinco
They both black. Now.
Chad Johnson
That was the old me. That was old.
Ocho Cinco
That ain't you no more.
Chad Johnson
Nah. Ever since. Ever since I've been on this journey, man. Every. Everything like I see. I see things so much more clearer now. Now that. Now that sex isn't a distraction.
Ocho Cinco
Wow. I'm proud of you, man.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
I'm proud of that journey.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Yeah. I. To me, it's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing. I honestly, I thought I didn't have the. Just, ah. I thought I ain't had the discipline to do it. And I've been on point.
Ocho Cinco
I'm proud of. Yo.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Yeah. I'm. I'm proud of me too. You know, I'm making strides.
Ocho Cinco
Brian, is it? What's up? Go Lions. Tough loss. Hard to beat the MVP quarterback when your cornerback won and four lead game early. Time to get up and get ready to work the Bears next. I still believe we beat most teams tonight. Yeah, I do. Yeah, absolutely. How many quarter. They're only probably a handful of quarterbacks. They're probably only one other quarterback, Lamar Jackson, that could have done what. What Josh Allen did tonight. What? Lamar. That's it?
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
So you happen to play against one of the two quarterbacks that could have done that. Of all the quarterbacks that's currently in the league, he. You got the other one. I could tell about Joe, but they got the other one that could do it. Frank tank921 hey, uncle, don't you love the show? What did the Chief do with their receivers after the season? Being from Houston, I hope they keep D hop. I want to see him on a winning team. Well, Rasheed Rice got going for the season now. I guess Hollywood Brown was supposed to return to practice. We'll see how that goes. But it's tough, Ojo. You know, it's kind of. It's tough to pick up the speed of the game this late season.
Chad Johnson
It's bad.
Ocho Cinco
They. But they need. They. It doesn't matter. Receivers. The receivers can be open, but if you ain't got no time to throw it to them, that offensive line is a sieve.
Chad Johnson
It's bad. It is very bad. And I don't. I don't. I don't mean I'm. I don't even think there's a way to. It's not a way to fix it. Now, if you have a bad left tackle, if you have a bad right tackle that sometimes you can hide it, sometimes you can slide protection, slaps left, flat right. Use your back, use your tight end, you know. You know, have them chip on like it's it. You can't hide everybody. Huh? You can't hide everybody like it's bad.
Ocho Cinco
Jayna, you'll say, what do you think? What do you think? The Broncos and Bo necks defense. I'm scared. We watching Ready for the playoffs. Well, you can't throw well. I think he just. I think he just handed Jalen Daniels the MVP with those three turnovers he had today. I think that's what he did do. He's played. You know, they. The defense was outstanding today, but you playing any other team, you probably get beat. Can't turn the ball over three times and expect to win. You turn the ball over three times and Taylor let a touchdown go and it ended up being a touchdown touchback. So he's definitely gonna have to tighten that up. Need to get another win in order to get their playoff spot. FLVA said, Would you rather have 4 catches 100 yards than a touchdown or 10 catches 100 yards get. Let me ask you a question. The win. Did we win? Because all this four catches, 100 yards, 10 catches, 100 yards, we don't win. I ain't got nothing. I mean, how does that help? I don't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't play Fantasy Ocho. I never.
Chad Johnson
I didn't play it either. But I want four. I want four. Four. Four catches, 100.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, you like that? 25 yards of catch up. That means you got something deep. You don't went deep 50 yards on one of them. Bless you. J213 said, hey, Uncle. No Joe. I hope all y'all. Hope all is well. Keep doing what you're doing. Which one of UNC's millions of saying best describe both respectively. Man, I'm trying to think which one best describes Ocho.
Chad Johnson
What.
Ocho Cinco
A lot. Don't care who tell it.
Chad Johnson
But I'll be lying, though.
Ocho Cinco
Ocho, you ain't never had no hair.
Chad Johnson
I had hair in high school. I had a mohawk in the NFL. What you mean, I ain't never had no hair?
Ocho Cinco
That was your second year in the league. You had.
Chad Johnson
That was year five, huh?
Ocho Cinco
That's all. But the hair is the thing that was. The only spot your hair would grow in is the mohawk right down the middle.
Chad Johnson
I can grow a hair full of hair. I just choose not to because I don't like maintenance.
Ocho Cinco
No, you'd be like a Chia Pet. You won't go nowhere. Me never mistake hard work for habit or habit for hard work. Because that's the thing. People think because they do something over and over. Ocho, they working hard.
Chad Johnson
That's a good.
Ocho Cinco
I like that. No, that's a habit. Going to the gym. People go to the gym every day. Man, I go to the gym every day. You look the same as three years ago, five years ago, six years ago. So you going to the gym out of habit because you hadn't changed anything. You ain't working hard.
Chad Johnson
Hell.
Ocho Cinco
Killer care. Tnt. Chad. Love. Love you guys. And boys was having a debate about who have a better backyard barbecue. I voted unc because I know UNC coming with a good drink and trees. We smoke. Smoke some ribs. Who y'all got? Me.
Chad Johnson
You think you can have a better. Like a cookout or something? Like better than me?
Ocho Cinco
Yes.
Chad Johnson
Oh, I don't think so. Huh? Oh, Joe, I don't think so.
Ocho Cinco
You got. You can't have A cookout. Unless you got somebody that's gonna be able to tell the stories.
Chad Johnson
What you talking about? I can tell you. I got. Okay, I got stories for days. The problem is, you ain't gonna be.
Ocho Cinco
Able to tell no story. Corelle gonna be there.
Chad Johnson
I can't tell some of my stories because some of the stories based on. On my hip. Like, it ain't gonna fly.
Ocho Cinco
That's what I'm trying to tell you. So they know she gonna be posted up. So you gonna be pg.
Chad Johnson
You ain't got to be all fellas. So my story is gonna be able to fly.
Ocho Cinco
You can't have no cookout. No. All fellas.
Chad Johnson
You want women now?
Ocho Cinco
What kind of cookout?
Chad Johnson
You got women there?
Ocho Cinco
It's a cookout.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Women. Women be.
Ocho Cinco
I've never gone to a cookout where it's just all guys, and I hope I don't ever go to one.
Chad Johnson
So when you go to the doctor, you go.
Ocho Cinco
You.
Chad Johnson
You take. You take. Hold on. When you go to the doctor, you take women with you?
Ocho Cinco
Huh?
Chad Johnson
You go to the doctor, you take women with you.
Ocho Cinco
I ain't go. I. I ain't been yet.
Chad Johnson
Okay. Oh, where we going? Where we going?
Ocho Cinco
You know, firsthand.
Chad Johnson
Okay. I got my pad. I got my passport. Now I'm ready.
Ocho Cinco
We good? You good?
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm good now. Yeah. It took a little. Took a little minute and got it together.
Ocho Cinco
Big boy toy. Says who tried to come to my super bowl party. I'm gonna have burnt ends, buffalo wings, seafood gumbo, Mac and cheese, ribeye steak, and a lifetime supply. Modus. Did I say modus Modelos? I don't drink. No, I don't drink no beer. So, like, hey, I thought. Hey, I thought it was like, them old dudes. You ever had old dudes on Joe? Not alcoholic beer.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, no. You know I play with that stuff, right?
Ocho Cinco
It's not alcohol.
Chad Johnson
The fact that it's supposed to be beer. No.
Ocho Cinco
Okay. You ain't never drink a beer.
Chad Johnson
Oh, I've never had alcohol. That would be. That would be me have alcohol.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, yeah, the burnt ends. I'm good. Buffalo wings. Yeah. Gumbo. Nah. Miss me with that. Are you. Are you. Is the bake Mac and cheese? Is it baked or you gonna have it creamy? I like the ribeye. Bone in at lifetime supply of Modelo, man. Ain't no. Yeah. Oh, hey, the rock. I wrote you rock. The models. Yeah. Lifetime supply of models. You lead a Modelo model. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said, congratulations on being nominated for two sports podcast Awards. You know, you got my votes. More to come. Doc, thank you very much. We greatly, greatly appreciate your support. Just make sure you in New Orleans. That's what we need to have happen in. In New Orleans. Need to see you there because you've kind of been everywhere that we've been. You came to New Vegas, you came to Atlanta, and so we know you're gonna be in New Orleans. So thank you very much, Doc. We greatly, greatly appreciate you, Doc. Doc's always supporting. I mean, she was the one that gave us the idea for the T shirts, Ocho. Remember we had T shirts?
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Hell, yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Guys. That concludes this edition of Nightcap. Thank you for joining us. Y'all know me. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. He is Liberty City's own bingo ring of Fame honoree. He's happy. Bengals finally won a game.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, wait.
Chad Johnson
We won two games and we gonna win out.
Ocho Cinco
You won two games. Bingo Ring of fame honoree. The pro Bowler, the all Pro. That's Chad Ocho. Cinco Johnson. Please hit the subscribe button. Please hit that like button and make sure you go subscribe to the Madcap podcast feed. And we thank you for your continued support. Please check out Shay by laportier. We have it in stock. Holidays are upon us, and what better way to celebrate than with a bottle of Shea by laportier. Now we have it in, and if you order it by December 18, we can ensure that you'll get it by the before the end of the year so you can celebrate New Year's. And please drink responsibly. Go follow my media company page on all of its platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, the new releases just got dropped. New shirts, sweats. We have stocking stuffers such as beanies, koozies and mugs. Quantities are limited, so please make sure you grab yours while supplies last. Tickets for the super bowl show in New Orleans, our first spring tour stop, are on sale now. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. February 6th in New Orleans. We've been nominated for two sports podcast awards. Best American football podcast and best sports comedy podcast. Please go vote for us. The link is in the chat and pinned on our social pages and all our social bios. What do we got? The Packer moved to 10 and 4. They beat the Seahawks 30 to 13. Josh Allen was superman today. He scored. He threw for over 300 yards, 360 yards, rushed for over 60 yards, and had four total touchdowns. Two on the ground, two through the era to offset the big day by Josh Jerry golf who had five total touchdowns and over 500 yards. But it wasn't enough as the Bills win 48 to 42. What else happened today?
Chad Johnson
The Eagles happened today. The Bengals won.
Ocho Cinco
The Eagles stymied. The Eagles stymied the Steelers and they win 27:13. Two receivers, both Devontae Smith and A.J. brown goes over 100 yards and they completely dominate the Pittsburgh Steelers. Patrick Mahomes sprained an ankle but they win 23 to 132313 over the Cleveland Browns. Cowboys go on the road and dismantle The Carolina Panthers 30 to 14. Most complete game the Cowboys have played to date. Defense was sensational. Cooper Rush his first three touchdown passing day and Rico did 149 yards on 29 carries. The Ravens beat the Giants 35 14. Lamar Jackson Title career high with five teeny passes, five touchdown passes and he had fewer than five incompletions as they completely dominate the Giants 35 14. The Bengals beat the Tennessee Titans 37 27. Joe Burrow 271 yards, three touchdowns. But he did have two picks. But still it wasn't enough for the Titans. Joe Burrow and the Bengals 3727 as they the playoffs done. The Bucks defeat the Chargers 40 17. The Bucks rack up 505 total yards as Mike Evans has 159 yards and gives him a chance. He needs to average 84 yards a game OJo the last three games to keep his consecutive thousand yard seasons alive. Jets beat the Jags with a vintage Aaron Rodgers and Devonte Adams. Rogers passed for 289 yards, three touchdowns and Devontae had nine catches, a buck 98 and two touches. The Houston Texans clinched the division by beating the Miami Dolphins 20 to 12. And the Broncos beating the Indianapolis Colts gives the Houston Texas division. Travis Hunter wins the Heisman and that's it. OO tomorrow after Monday Night Football we have two games tomorrow. The Minnesota Vikings play. Who do the Vikings play? I know the Falcons play. Who's the Falcons? Bears play The Vikings and the Falcons play. Play the Raiders. So we'll see you guys tomorrow after Monday Night Football. It is a double header. Bears and Vikings. Falcons and Raiders. Huh?
Chad Johnson
Raiders and Falcons. That's nasty work, boy.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, you gotta love football to watch that one, Ocho. And we do. So we. We gotta watch it. Thank you guys for watching. I'm Unc, he's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow night after Thursday after Monday Night Football. Thank you. The volume.
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Club Shay Shay Podcast Episode Summary
Title: Nightcap - Hour 2: Lamar goes off, Purdy wants big money, Travis Hunter’s fiance
Release Date: December 16, 2024
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guests: Chad Johnson and Ocho Cinco
In this engaging episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe hosts a lively discussion with Chad Johnson and Ocho Cinco. The trio delves into recent NFL performances, quarterback analyses, contract negotiations, and the personal lives of prominent athletes. The conversation is peppered with insightful commentary, memorable quotes, and passionate debates, offering listeners a comprehensive look into the current state of the NFL and its stars.
Ravens vs. Giants [05:00 - 07:04]
Chad Johnson opens the discussion by commending the Baltimore Ravens for their decisive win over the New York Giants. He emphasizes Lamar Jackson's outstanding performance, highlighting that "Lamar tied a career high with five touchdown passes" (05:00).
Jets vs. Jaguars [18:30 - 21:05]
The hosts analyze the New York Jets' victory over the Jacksonville Jaguars, praising Aaron Rodgers for his "vintage performance" where he threw for 289 yards and three touchdowns (18:30). Chad notes, "Devontae had nine catches for 94 yards and two touchdowns," underscoring the synergy between Rodgers and his receivers.
Texans Clinch Division [28:34 - 37:04]
Ocho Cinco celebrates the Houston Texans' triumph over the Miami Dolphins, clinching the AFC South division. He passionately remarks, "The Texans defeated the Dolphins 20 to 12," highlighting the team's defensive prowess and strategic gameplay (28:34).
Lamar Jackson's Dominance [05:00 - 07:04]
Chad Johnson praises Lamar Jackson's historical achievement, stating, "This is Lamar's fifth game with five TD passes and five or fewer incompletions. No other player in NFL history has more than three" (05:00). The discussion underscores Jackson's exceptional skill set and his pivotal role in the Ravens' offensive strategy.
Brock Purdy's Contract Aspirations [33:35 - 36:43]
The conversation shifts to quarterback Brock Purdy, with Ocho Cinco expressing skepticism about Purdy's pursuit of a $50 million per year contract. He quips, "I ain't paying him no 50 million," suggesting a more modest offer (33:35). Chad counters by highlighting the importance of the quarterback position, stating, "the quarterback position is very, very, very, very important. And sometimes if you want it bad enough, you will overpay for it" (35:04).
Kyle Pitts' Performance Critique [41:20 - 45:42]
Ocho Cinco discusses Kyle Pitts, citing criticism from an NFL executive who labeled Pitts as "one of the biggest disappointments" they've scouted. Chad Johnson defends Pitts, attributing any shortcomings to injuries and offensive strategy, stating, "Kyle Pitts is phenomenal. And even now with a little limp and a little injury, he's still a mismatched nightmare" (42:05).
Brock Purdy's Contract Demand [33:35 - 35:08]
Ocho Cinco voices strong opposition to Purdy's sought-after contract, arguing against the inflation of quarterback salaries. Chad Johnson acknowledges the dilemma teams face, noting, "You don't have a choice... They had a choice not to pay Daniel Jones" (35:08). The debate highlights the tension between player valuation and team budget constraints.
Shannon's Insights on Team Management [36:19 - 38:14]
The hosts discuss the challenges teams face in managing player conduct and performance. Ocho Cinco criticizes the handling of player Drake Greenlaw's situation, emphasizing the need for accountability: "We gotta stop making excuses. We try to excuse everything that a person does" (37:04). Chad agrees, underscoring the importance of maintaining professionalism regardless of personal issues (38:12).
Public Perception and Media Attention [46:19 - 62:56]
A significant portion of the episode focuses on Travis Hunter's relationship with his fiancée. Ocho Cinco addresses the public's intrusive scrutiny, defending Hunter's personal life: "I want Travis Hunter to do the best that he possibly can" (53:43). The hosts discuss the challenges athletes face in maintaining privacy and the impact of media narratives on their personal relationships.
Support for Travis Hunter [74:05 - 78:50]
In a heartfelt segment, the hosts reflect on Travis Hunter's achievements and personal growth. They acknowledge the support he has received from Coach Prime and express hope for his continued success both on and off the field: "I want Travis Hunter to do the best that he possibly can. I want him to be smart" (53:43).
Fan Questions and Real-Life Advice [74:05 - 82:09]
During the Q&A segment, Chad Johnson and Ocho Cinco engage with fan questions, offering advice on various topics:
Dating and Relationships: The hosts discuss the complexities of relationships in the spotlight, emphasizing the importance of genuine connections over public approval.
Player Discipline and Personal Growth: Chad shares his personal journey towards self-improvement, highlighting the significance of discipline and focus: "Ever since I've been on this journey, man. Everything... like sex isn't a distraction" (78:15).
Backyard Barbecue Debate: A lighthearted debate ensues over who hosts the better backyard barbecue, showcasing the camaraderie and playful banter between the hosts.
Memorable Quotes:
The episode wraps up with Chad and Ocho Cinco summarizing the day's discussions and teasing future topics. They reiterate their support for athletes navigating both professional pressures and personal challenges, leaving listeners with a blend of sports analysis and heartfelt advice.
Final Quote:
Listeners are encouraged to stay tuned for upcoming episodes, where Shannon Sharpe continues to host in-depth conversations with top athletes, celebrities, and influencers.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
Chad Johnson on Lamar Jackson: "This is Lamar's fifth game with five TD passes and five or fewer incompletions. No other player in NFL history has more than three." (05:00)
Ocho Cinco on Brock Purdy's Contract: "I ain't paying him no 50 million." (33:35)
Chad Johnson Defending Kyle Pitts: "Kyle Pitts is phenomenal. And even now with a little limp and a little injury, he's still a mismatched nightmare." (42:05)
Ocho Cinco on Player Accountability: "We gotta stop making excuses. We try to excuse everything that a person does." (37:04)
Chad Johnson on Discipline: "Ever since I've been on this journey, man. Everything... like sex isn't a distraction." (78:15)
Ocho Cinco on Letting Athletes Make Mistakes: "You gotta let the man make his mistakes. He'll figure it out, hopefully sooner than later." (49:20)
Key Takeaways:
Quarterback Performance: Lamar Jackson continues to set historical records, demonstrating exceptional skill and leadership for the Ravens.
Contract Negotiations: The debate over Brock Purdy's desired contract highlights the ongoing tension between player valuation and team budgets.
Personal Lives of Athletes: Travis Hunter's relationship faces public scrutiny, underscoring the challenges athletes encounter in maintaining privacy.
Player Accountability: The importance of accountability and professionalism in handling player conduct and performance is a recurring theme.
Fan Engagement: The Q&A segment showcases the hosts' willingness to engage with fans on both serious and lighthearted topics, fostering a sense of community.
This episode offers a blend of sports analysis, personal insights, and candid conversations, making it a must-listen for fans eager to stay informed and entertained by the latest happenings in the NFL.