Nightcap - Hour 2: Lamar secures MVP, Unc clowns Trey Lance, rookie hazing

Summary

Club Shay Shay Podcast Episode Summary Title: Nightcap - Hour 2: Lamar Secures MVP, Unc Clowns Trey Lance, Rookie Hazing
Host/Authors: iHeartPodcasts, The Volume, and Shay Shay Media
Release Date: January 5, 2025

In this high-energy episode of "Club Shay Shay," NFL legend Shannon Sharpe welcomes expert commentators Chad Ochocinco and Ocho to delve into the latest happenings in the NFL. The conversation spans Lamar Jackson's MVP candidacy, the Cleveland Browns' strategic moves, rookie hazing traditions, and intense playoff projections. Here's a detailed breakdown of their engaging discussions.

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1. Lamar Jackson's MVP Bid

Chad Ochocinco and Ocho kick off the episode by debating whether Lamar Jackson has secured the MVP title.

• Chad Ochocinco highlights Lamar's impressive statistics, stating, "Only two have ever done this. Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson. 900 rush yards with 4,000 passing yards. No quarterback has ever done that." (04:22)

• Ocho reacts in awe, simply responding, "That's crazy." (04:24)

• They discuss the voting process, with Chad speculating, "I'm thinking, I'm thinking it was noon Monday." (02:48) suggesting Lamar's performance has heavily influenced the MVP outcome.

2. Cleveland Browns and Miles Garrett Trade

The conversation shifts to the Cleveland Browns and the potential trade of star defensive end Miles Garrett.

• Ocho expresses support for Garrett, saying, "I think, you know, Myles Garrett has done everything he can for the Browns organization. He's been a standout player, and in the community." (10:22)

• Chad discusses the strategic benefits, "You might as well, like, try to build this thing back up. Get them first-round draft picks that Miles Garrett will bring you..." (11:13)

• They contemplate the Browns' future, with Chad asserting, "Cause look, you got Lamar. Lamar is 26. Joe Burrow is 27." (11:09) emphasizing the need for the Browns to invest in new talent.

3. Baltimore Ravens' Stellar Performance

The duo praises the Baltimore Ravens' outstanding season, focusing on Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry's contributions.

• Chad recaps the Ravens' success: "Lamar Jackson 217 yards, 2 passing touchdowns Derrick Henry 138 rushing yards, 2 rushing touchdowns." (13:44)

• Ocho adds, "They look good. They got a 35 rush attempts, 220 yards. That's what they do." (13:44) highlighting the team's balanced offense.

4. Playoff Predictions and Seeding

Chad and Ocho analyze playoff implications and predict which teams will advance.

• Chad lays out potential scenarios: "The Baltimore Ravens win the division. The AFC north with a 3510 win over Cleveland. Baltimore secures the number three seed." (83:07)

• Ocho contributes insights on defensive performances, "We have some... They got a lot of awards coming their way." (not directly quoted but inferred)

5. Trey Lance's Future with the Cowboys

Discussing the quarterback situation, they assess Trey Lance's performance and future prospects with the Dallas Cowboys.

• Chad questions Lance's tenure, "Could this be the final dance for Trey Lance?" (29:32)

• Ocho remains optimistic, "He's a young quarterback, if any, if anything, he can still be a backup anywhere." (29:39)

• They debate his potential, with Chad stating, "He is a dual threat. He's terrible and awful." (31:00) while Ocho counters, "Listen, there are far few worse quarterbacks..." (30:18)

6. Rookie Hazing Stories

The conversation takes a lighter turn as Chad and Ocho share anecdotes about rookie hazing traditions in the NFL.

• Chad recounts, "Seahawks rookie DT Byron Murphy II took his teammates out for dinner and was pranked with a fake dinner bill of 155,000." (36:33)

• Ocho reminisces about his own experiences, "When I was a veteran, I didn't make the rookies do. Do rookie night." (37:15) emphasizing the camaraderie and traditions within teams.

7. Audience Q&A Segment

Engaging with listeners, Chad and Ocho address various audience questions, ranging from playoff predictions to personal anecdotes.

• Listener Question: "If you were a past GM, would you trade that pick or take Travis?"
  Chad Ochocinco responds, "I'm trading it. I can get a lot. It all depends now if I get T. Higgins might think about keeping it." (82:50)

• Listener Question: "Would you congratulate Saquon Barkley for his record-breaking season?"
  Ocho elaborates on Saquon's dedication, emphasizing the importance of performance over accolades. (general inference from the discussion)

8. Final Thoughts and MVP Discussion

As the episode wraps up, Chad and Ocho revisit the MVP conversation and Derrick Henry's historic achievements.

• Chad praises Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry, "Ashley Moore Wilder's weapons for now for the MVP. But it didn't stop Mahomes..." (70:38)

• Ocho reflects on the manipulation of narratives, "They will constantly move the goalpost to support whatever narrative they want to run with." (71:36) urging listeners to stay vigilant about biases in award selections.

9. Conclusion and Farewell

Shannon Sharpe joins briefly for promotional segments, but Chad and Ocho focus on summarizing their key points and thanking listeners for their support.

• Chad signs off with enthusiasm, "Please hit that subscribe button. Please hit that like button and please subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed." (final minutes)

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Notable Quotes:

• Chad Ochocinco (04:22): "Only two have ever done this. Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson. 900 rush yards with 4,000 passing yards. No quarterback has ever done that."

• Ocho (04:24): "That's crazy."

• Chad Ochocinco (10:22): "I think, you know, Myles Garrett has done everything he can for the Browns organization. He's been a standout player, and in the community."

• Chad Ochocinco (31:00): "He is a dual threat. He's terrible and awful."

• Ocho (29:39): "He's a young quarterback, if any, if anything, he can still be a backup anywhere."

• Chad Ochocinco (36:33): "Seahawks rookie DT Byron Murphy II took his teammates out for dinner and was pranked with a fake dinner bill of 155,000."

• Chad Ochocinco (82:50): "I'm trading it. I can get a lot. It all depends now if I get T. Higgins might think about keeping it."

• Ocho (71:36): "They will constantly move the goalpost to support whatever narrative they want to run with."

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Conclusion: In this dynamic episode of "Club Shay Shay," Chad Ochocinco and Ocho provide insightful and entertaining analysis of key NFL storylines. From Lamar Jackson's MVP journey and strategic team trades to the enduring traditions of rookie hazing, their discussion offers a comprehensive look into the current state of the league. Engaging with their audience through a lively Q&A, they ensure listeners are not only informed but also entertained. Whether you're a die-hard fan or a casual observer, this episode delivers rich content that encapsulates the excitement and complexity of the NFL.

Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Ocho]

Is this after the game or before the game?

[Chad Ochocinco]

After.

[Ocho]

See what I mean? That's why I say the vote must already be in. Somebody know something? Somebody.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, no. Here's the thing. Your vote don't have to be in until normally I think Our vote had to be in by Monday, by noon. Right. Because you know, you got to vote for all the awards. You got to vote for all pro. Because you get a vote, you vote for all the all pro team, offense, defense, kicker, coach of the year, rookie of the year, you know, offensive rookie of the year, defensive rookie of the year, mvp, comeback player of the year, so forth and so on. So all that. So you obviously, and I mean, it might. Ocho. It might be after the game, after the last game. But. But I'm thinking, I'm thinking. Oh, I'm thinking it was noon Monday.

[Ocho]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like I said, it's been so long. Go. Hell. I hadn't worked at CBS in, man, in so long. I mean, I think last year was like the Broncos win the Super Bowl. So that was 2013. So it's been like, it's been 12 years. So that was a long, long time ago. But for me, I'm just saying. And I think Josh Allen has a phenomenal season, but 41 touchdowns with less than five interceptions, that's impressive because Aaron Rodgers, and we know how gifted Aaron Rodgers is a throw of the football. I mean, you think about all the great quarterbacks, only two have ever done this. Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson. 900 rush yards with 4,000 passing yards. No quarterback has ever done that. He did it. The second highest quarterback rating in NFL history. He got it.

[Ocho]

That's crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He got a lot of first or seconds. He's had a lot. Like I said, I'm glad I ain't a bowling dowager. I'm glad I'm not a voter now. I'm glad. I'm glad I'm not a voter now. I'm not. I. I am. However, on the week that he was named the Pro Bowl, Zay Flowers, he's the first Ravens wide receiver to ever be named to the Pro Bowl.

[Ocho]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Drafted? He's the first because what you call him win. But he was the first drafted Ravens wide receiver to the Pro bowl because I think, what's the guy that was at Tennessee?

[Ocho]

Derrick Mason.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Derrick Mason. I think Derrick Mason went to the Pro bowl, but he was. You know what it's like Kansas City. Patrick Mahomes was the first Chiefs quarterback drafted to win a playoff game. They've had other guys win playoff games, but they weren't drafted. Z. Flowers was drafted. So you go back and you look at all the players that were drafted.

[Ocho]

This the first one that ever made the Pro bowl. That actually wasn't. Yeah, because okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Thriller, Michael Jackson, he was from the Browns So he came over, rescued. So he got. He got killed in a motorcycle. A traffic accident on the motorcycle. But, man, I. I hope. I hope Zay is okay. Okay. Injured right knee early in the second quarter and did not return. So hopefully they were able to get. Get him some treatment. Yeah, I'm biased. I want Lamar with. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. I mean, wow. Sue me. Hello?

[Ocho]

Sure you're gonna show him that helmet, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That was me. The super bowl helmet is at the house, so. Yeah, I'm biased. What you want me to tell you?

[Ocho]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Excuse me. Look, I don't think that's gonna fit.

[Ocho]

Now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I might get low, and then y'all might have to cut it off my head. But. But I hope he's okay. Hopefully they're able to. Yeah, okay. Yeah. So what? Ah, man. Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yo.

[Chad Ochocinco]

DT Michael Pierce spoke about his interception. Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

[Ocho]

Well, that was so funny. Boy, did I want to try for six.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So there's a long history of turning big guy interceptions and fumbles and all that stuff in the memes. So at the risk of ruining a career play like that for myself, it's time to go home.

[Ocho]

So.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bus was out of gas. We good?

[Ocho]

Hey, I was.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ocho, he had a blocker. He could have got it. He'd have made it. Ocho.

[Ocho]

You think so?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, because the guy had already. Listen, wasn't nobody back there. So now all of a sudden, he had a blocker that had already picked up the quarterback. Now he got a head start on the offensive lineman.

[Ocho]

Hey, you know how funny that would have been if he had 355? Listen, 355. He had a convoy of people. You know how 350 would have been three? What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That 355. That's the weight that he weighed in at training camp.

[Ocho]

We probably about 379. Hey, I think.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you know, it's hard to sweat, Ocho, when it get cold and bald.

[Ocho]

Hey, you know, it's hard to sweat. Hey, he should have took that, man. He should have took that. I remember Vilce. I remember Vince Wilfork had one one time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he tried.

[Ocho]

It was so funny, man. Those don't come often.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Ocho]

Listen, you dropping pass coverage and got a.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And he picked it o. He didn't bobble it, ojo. He didn't bobble it right in the belly.

[Ocho]

He got. He got. He got it, man. Listen, it won't happen again. You got to take that, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You'll never get that opportunity again, Ocho, he'll never. Now he might. Ocho, he might get one that get popped up in there and he catch it, but they're gonna be on him. Yeah, but to get one clean like that, and you got it on the dead run.

[Ocho]

Yeah. He took a knee and say, ah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey. He did that thing like, that's the end of the game, Ocho. Like. Like, I preserve the biggest. Hey, if you notice, Ocho, he didn't take his ass to the end zone either. He went to the sideline. Yeah. I don't believe it. Hey, congratulations, big guy. Hey, that was also bad. Michael Pierce with an interception. He might have been the heaviest guy to. Nah, hold on. Maybe that Tennessee Titan, he picked up one.

[Ocho]

Jeffrey Simmons.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, the guy from Texas. Didn't he pick up an interception and take it to the house? Because I think he had to recognize the heaviest guy to ever return an interception. I think he was like 340.

[Ocho]

That got to be a dope feeling, man. That's it for the big boys.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, show. Yeah. What's the guy, Deandre? What's the guy that they drafted from Texas? The big D lineman. I think he got a pick six. Leonard Williams got a pick six. Remember, Leonard Williams picked not long ago?

[Ocho]

He was good. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because I think that's the. That he's the heaviest with the longest. Yeah. Yes. Wet. Did he get a pick six? Yeah, I thought he got a pick six against somebody. Ocho, the Browns have not guaranteed themselves the NFL top three draft pick. Miles Garrett said after the game there will be something coming. Is a Miles Garrett trade imminent?

[Ocho]

Yeah, probably. I think, you know, Myles Garrett has done everything he can for the Browns organization. He's been a standout player, and in the community, I think it would be do them. Do them their due just. And do right by him and allow him to go to a contender and. And contribute somewhere else. I'm. I'm assuming maybe draft day, he gets traded somewhere and it'll pay dividends. As far as draft picks are concerned for the Browns, they'll be compensated very well for somebody like Miles Garrett, and he will go somewhere where he can contend, you know, for Lombardi.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, because my thing a little. I believe the Browns are more than one player away.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You might as well, like, try to build this thing back up.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Get. Get them first round draft picks that Miles Garrett will bring you probably two ones and a two. Maybe two ones, a two and a four. So I get. Hey, we'll swap draft positions this year as A matter of fact, no. I'm gonna get your first round pick this year and I'm gonna get him next year. But I'm also gonna get your two this year along with your three or your four next year. Yeah, Ocho, I think they're just. They're just so much away as far as like building this thing up. Cause look, you got lamar. Lamar is 26.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Joe Burrow is 27. 20. So you gotta deal with those guys for the next decade. Yeah, the next decade. Now we don't know what Pittsburgh's gonna do. Maybe may. Hey, maybe they bring Russ back. Maybe they. Maybe they go. They don't strike me as a team that'll go. That'll be invested in a Sam Darnold to spend that kind of money on you. They don't really like to spend heavily in free agency. They like to invest in their own right. You know, you don't. If you notice them, they don't spend a whole lot of money in free agency. They're mom and pop shop. Everybody knows what they are. But Miles Garrett will fetch a pretty penny.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And if I'm the Browns. I'm listening. Yeah, I'm gonna try to get him out of. I'm gonna try to get him out of the afc, Ocho, but if somebody in the AFC offered me the best package, will he going to the afc? Cause I want the best package.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you ain't got no choice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I'm going now. I'm not trading him in the division. So Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh. Don't even call. I'm not trading in the division now. I ain't gonna be that damn Pittsburgh.

[Ocho]

Can you imagine miles Garrett and T.J. watson? Hell, no, man. Please.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I can't. But don't have to worry about it because it ain't gonna happen, right? It's not. It's not gonna happen. But the Baltimore Ravens look good, Lamar. 1632, 217, two touchdowns. Derek Henry, 20 for Buck 38, two touchdowns. The Ravens 35 rush attempts, 220 yards. That's what they do. 437 total yards on the day. Bateman had five catches, 76 yards on the touchdown. Mark Andrews, four catches, 54 yards on the touchdown. Likely was three or 38. Derrick Henry even chipped in that. Two catches, 23 yards. But the Ravens look good.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What? One sack, two sack, three sacks. I think they had like three sacks and a pick six. Well, they had two sacks of the pick six, so you have to be pleased with that. Like I said, Cleveland just. They need a major overhaul.

[Ocho]

They got. They got a ways to go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They do.

[Ocho]

They got. Listen, they got a ways to go on the offensive side of the ball.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, well, you gonna need to have a ways to go because Miles Gary is gonna fit a. You know, you about to lose 14 sacks.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oo post went viral on Twitter showing Lamar Allen, Mahomes or Burl. Which one you getting rid of?

[Ocho]

That's a good one, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Mahomes ain't going nowhere. So I want y'all to debate between Lamar, Josh Allen, and Joe Burrow.

[Ocho]

Listen, I like all them boys. Obviously, you know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got to get rid of one.

[Ocho]

Ocho, I'm keeping Burrow, Mahomes, and Lamar. And I love Josh Allen. I love Josh Allen. Great quarterback. But if. If there's.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If.

[Ocho]

If there's one that's gotta go, it's gonna be. It's gonna.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's gonna be Josh.

[Ocho]

Okay, Definitely.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I like that.

[Ocho]

Lamar definitely ain't going nowhere. You know, Mahomes is that. Boy, how you know Joe Burrow? That's my quarterback.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. And rightfully so. Ocho, the Chiefs were iced in today. Trouble to get on the tarmac tonight before the Bronco game. The plane got stuck on the tarmac for four hours. Will this disrupt them? Were you ever stranded on the tarmac?

[Ocho]

Absolutely not, but I don't mind that. I don't care if you got to have me on a tarmac for 10 hours. De Ice my plane. Please De. Ice my plane. Because you know what happens if you don't de. Ice the plane and you take off anyway, man, I don't. I don't want none of them problems. Me ice my plane. So everything is working how it should be in flight. I don't care how long I'm on the tarmac. You don't play like that. There's a reason that he had those d ice machines to begin with, that. They got that for a reason now, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I remember in 97, Ocho, we got. We had that. If y'all look it up, we had that snowstorm that hit Denver that day, that night and bled into that day. And I think we probably got about 5 to 6ft of snow right over the course of about 24 to 36 hours, and we got stuck and we. We going to Buffalo, and, man, I don't know what time. I don't think we even end up getting out to, like, maybe 6:00. So it's already 8:00 at night. Yeah, we didn't get in until probably about 1, 2. That's. That's. We had to go there. We. We put something on them, though. We a put Natiti Red wild. TD ran wild. TD had like 205. We just ran the ball. Cause it was. First of all, you know, if you go to Buffalo in December, it's gonna be effed up weather. I don't think. You know what, Ocho? Now that I think about it, Ocho. I've never gone to Buffalo and had it be nice weather. It's like snow, it's like rain. It's like sleet. It's something. Maybe in 94 it was decent. It was windy. But it wasn't. No, it wasn't precipitation. But you go to Buffalo in late November, December, you kiss the baby.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You kiss the baby. It's so close to Canada. You gonna get. What.

[Ocho]

Hey, just with you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, but look, for the most part, the guys. A lot of the guys like Mahomes. It's not disrupting him. Cause he's not playing. Kelsey, a lot of the key contributors, they're not gonna play tomorrow. But a lot of these guys that are gonna be playing, they just happen to get an opportunity to play. They get an opportunity to start.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, the player could. Hey, as a matter of fact, they can leave tomorrow morning.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I don't. I don't think this doesn't affect players, you know, one bit. I mean, some people.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No.

[Ocho]

Might. Might say, you know, it doesn't throw off anything. You know, the game is still going to be played. This is. This is. I call it your downtime. This is your unwind time to get yourself focused and locked. The extra time that you are on there, I'm sure everybody has their iPads. Do your homework. Do your homework.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, we gambling.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We playing talk. We playing bu. We playing in between. Man, that's. Hey, first of all, you know, that's. That's time. Oh, hey, anytime. Hey. And that's the way we pass time and give y'all a little insight. Anytime there's some downtime. Right? Oh, we gonna get that gambling on.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Everything. Everything is for money. There's nothing. It ain't no. For fun. You playing for money.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So that's because that's our competitive nature. We're just competitive like that for fun. Yeah, man, I can't remember the last time I did something for fun. Right. College played football. That's the last thing I did for fun. Everything now, hey, man, I played for. Hey, let's just shoot some. Ooh, right Put something on what you want to put be, bro. I just want to. Nah, bro. Put the ball down. Then if you ain't you. If you ain't playing for no money on your. Just put the ball down.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Vrabel. Watch Vrabel changes profile pick to him playing for Pats. What does that mean?

[Ocho]

I don't know. It's very subliminal, especially with some of the reports coming out that Kraft might be trying to bring Babel in after only one year of having Gerard Mayo there. I'm not sure if Kraft would actually make a change that fast without giving Gerard Mayo the opportune time to change that franchise around and probably try to get them to prominence where they. Where they once were with Bill and Tom Brady. Drake May has played well in spurts similar to that of Aaron Rodgers, but he showed flashes. He showed flashes of what he can do. And I think another year or maybe two under the helm of Gerard Mayo, I think the Patriots are going to be okay. I'm not sure how far away they are from competing in the AFC east and dominating that division once again, but they're not that far off. As bad as they were this year. They have some.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who's not that far off, Ocho? Oh, the Patriots. Okay.

[Ocho]

Yeah. They. Not that far off. I think they'll be all right, but I think it's too early. It's too early now. You even give Gerard Mayo a chance. Just give him a chance. One year is not enough time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's not. But they also know that if they don't hire Variable, they're not gonna get an opportunity to. Cause he's gonna get hired in this cycle.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And so. And that's. And that's. That's the thing, though, Ocho. That's so tough. And I like Mr. Kraft. Like, I like. Of all the owners, I probably know him the best. Well, yeah, I know him the best. I was gonna say, prior to Mr. Boland passing and him being around, it was Mr. B. Right. But I probably know him. I've been around him the Most. Him and Mr. Blank, Arthur Blank, they've always been great to me. Always. And I like him. And he strikes me as a very, very fair guy, because Coach Belichick, I think, was 5 and 11 in his first year, and he gave him a second year, and he would lose that losing record until that faithful hit Mo Lewis put on Drew Bledsoe. And it changed the fate of the entire NFL. It changed the fate of an organization. How we view that organization, how we view coach Belichick and Mr. Kraft, one of the, one of the better owners in all of pro sports. Yeah, that's a, that's a tough decision.

[Ocho]

It is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Ain't no telling. Ain't no telling what message Brayvo's sending, you know, especially doing that. And you don't, you don't really see anything like that from a head coach or from a coach in general. You know, you see stuff like that from players.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You're right. But I think the thing is, hey, maybe he knows something that we don't. Yeah, I, I, I think the thing is he's in a very tough spot because Mr. Kraft Hand selected Gerard Mayo.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's been under Coach Belichick tutelage. He played for Coach Belichick, he coached under Coach Belichick, and obviously he had things that Mr. Kraft liked, or he wouldn't have made him his head coach. But I do think that he has a very fond liking to Mike Vrabel. Mike has proven himself. He's taken to the Titans to the playoffs a couple of times, went to the AFC Championship game. They ended up losing to Kansas City. But that's a tough one, Ocho. That's a really tough call. It's hard to pull the plug after one season. But I know Mr. Kraft doesn't want to lose on this opportunity, that he believed that Mike Brable is a very good coach and he would hate to lose out on the opportunity. But sometimes you gotta lose in order to win. Oh, yeah, we've all lost that. Hey, like, man, we didn't see it at the time, Ocho. We made decisions like, man, I hate to do this, but I'm gonna do it, and it can't. Like, damn glad I made that decision. We all have experience paying extra fees. Like, the one time I had a layover in Salt Lake City, they canceled my flight and I had to buy another plane ticket just to make it home. When we're trying to make progress, life's curveballs often feel like taking one step forward and two steps back. A Chime checking account makes financial progress easier with features like no maintenance fees. Fee free overdraft up to $200, or getting paid up to two days early with direct deposit. Don't even ask me how I paid for my first house when I made it to the league. That's the beauty of Chime Chime helps you make progress. Fee free overdraft up to $200 by applying your next deposit to your balance. In addition, there's no monthly fees or maintenance fees, and chime offers over 50,000 fee free ATMs make progress towards a better financial future with Chime. Open an account in 2 [e-mail] nightcap that's chime.com nightcap Chime feels like progress. Banking services and debit cards provided by Bancorp Bank North America or Stride Bank North America members. FDIC Spotme eligibility requirements and overdraft limits apply. Booths are available to eligible Chime members enrolled at Spotme and are subject to monthly limits. Timing depends on submission of payment file fees apply at out of network ATMs.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Oho Saquon Barkley Trolls the Giants in a new sleep ad the Giants running back chose John Mar in a Sleep Aid commercial referenced his viral moment hard Knocks when he said he'd have a tough time sleeping if Saquon joined the Eagles.

[Ocho]

Man, forget that. I don't want to get nothing about no ad. I don't hit them by no commercial. You want to troll the Giants. You want to get the Giants back for what they did to you. But basically telling you, you know, we don't value you, we don't think you are worth the money that you deserve is him going out there telling goddamn Sirianna, you know what? I want to play. I want to play. I want to go out here and give it to the Giants and break this record and then you could take me out the game. Then I sit down. Best ad that would be the best commercial. That would be the best way to stick it to John Maher and whoever else made that goddamn decision to let him go to the Eagles.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How you pronounce the guy name? Joe Shawn Joe Shone.

[Ocho]

Sean Joe Shawn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Showing? Oh yeah, him close enough. John's gm. Oh but here's the thing. The problem that I got, Ocho, is that they played in the man face. You knew you were gonna sign the man back. You know we'd love to have you, but we think we owe you the opportunity to go out there and let you test the market.

[Ocho]

One thing about it, boy, you can't believe nothing they say. Listen, owners and GM owners, general managers ain't no different than politicians. Oh, they gonna sell you a dream now. They gonna tell you what you want to hear. But when it comes time to fulfill those promises. Man, stop, man. Man, stop.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's the thing, though, Joe is. And in the process of you shopping, they telling you thing that new team. Hey. It's almost like, hey, that new person in your ear telling you, I'm gonna cook and, baby, I'm gonna take you. Hey, we going to Jamaica. We going to Cancun. I'm gonna do all this. Huh? Oh, that thing starts out. Hey, hey. That new?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, for real.

[Ocho]

It sound good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We look and see Philly. We love that. See, the thing is, Ocho, when somebody wants you.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And they go and they show you, they really showed Saquon that they wanted him. See, the Giants, we want you, but we want you because you see how they did it. They put him on a franchise tag and all that old foolishness. Now, look, think about it. You lost your court. You lost the quarterback that couldn't play dead on a Western, and you lost your running back because you were being cheap.

[Ocho]

Hold on, hold on. Daniel Jones, he couldn't play dead in a what?

[Chad Ochocinco]

A Western. So now look at you.

[Ocho]

Hey, that's a good one. I like that one. That's a good one, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, and then, first of all, normally, like, when you doing stuff like that, Ocho, you don't put that on tape. You don't put that on camera, right? Because you make yourself look bad. Y'all, everybody saw that. Y'all played in that man face. Yeah, everybody saw that, what y'all was doing. And then you try to. And then you try to, like, oh, you know, we just. You know, we just. We owe it to you because you've been so good. Well, if I've been that good, go and break bread.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Break bread then if that's what you feel that way about me, break bread. Y'all play it. Unfortunately, I agree with you, Ocho. We talked about Ocho last week. Yeah. I want him to get that record bad.

[Ocho]

And he would have got it. It wouldn't have took that. Wouldn't have took that long. It wouldn't took that long.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know how long would it took, but I'd have been in the damn game till I got it.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he would have got it before. He would have got it before halftime. He would have got it before halftime.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The Cowboys will start Trey Lance versus the Commanders. Lance will try to showcase for the NFL that he's worth taking a chance on in the off season. Could this be the final dance for Trey Lance?

[Ocho]

I think, yeah. I wouldn't. I wouldn't call it the final dance. He's a young quarterback, if any, if anything, he can still be a backup anywhere. He can be a backup right now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He can't pay he. Right now. He can't play dead in a horror movie. Hey, oh, all you got. Hey, all you got to do. That's all you got to do. They gonna put a little ketchup on your show. I see it.

[Ocho]

Oh, I'll get a man a chance, man. Get a man a chance. Listen, there are far off worst quarterbacks that have backup roles and sometimes third string roles in the NFL. Trey Lance is a good quarterback if in the right situation. But what I think he can do. What I think he can do is he can put up a good performance where he signs back with the Cowboys. It can be the. He could be the number two behind Dak Prescott.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Jerry really likes Cooper Rush.

[Ocho]

What else does Jerry. You know what? We're gonna have to get Jerry eye check. We're gonna have to get Jerry's eye check. Maybe. Is there a problem. Is there a problem with having two black quarterbacks? Is that the issue? Because the better quarterback out of the two, out of Cooper Rush and Trey Lance, to me, I would lean towards Trey Lance if anything. And that's no dis. That's no disrespect to Cooper Rush. I'm just understanding what Trey Lance could do. I'm not saying he's Dak Prescott, but, you know, there are similarities. You know, I think he's a better runner, better dual threat. He can throw the ball. He's efficient. You know, put him in the right circumstance.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right now, Ocho, he is a dual threat. He's terrible and awful. That's the dual threat he was talking about right there. I don't know if you noticed it, Ocho, but there's a think about it, Mr. Irrelevant. Beat him out for the job.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The last player selected in the draft, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Beat the number three. The team he saved.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Rock Purdy saved Cal and Lynch.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Job. Yeah. Yeah, he did. He did.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It was almost like. But it should have gave you. It should have given you something. Because if you think about it, think about what happened in Washington. They drafted RG3. They traded to get RG3. And it also took Kirk Cousins.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Mike wanted. He might like Cousins from the Jump.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Thought that. Let's just stand pat. We're in. First of all, we're in salary cap. Hell, we just got DOC because we dumped all that money in the uncapped year. They took. They took money from us, right? So let's stay, because if you take. If we in salary cap held for two years, we got no draft picks for two years. How do we get better if we can't find free agency? We can't draft at the top of the draft. How do we get better?

[Ocho]

Oh, you can't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But Dan Snyder, you know them? Got. Hey, they got a name at the bottom of the check. He's, hey, I want this guy. And. And the Rams just kept jacking the price up, and they gave him. They got it.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But I hope Trey Lance can come out there and show him something. Yeah, you're right. He's probably, what, 20? How old is Trey Lance? 25.

[Ocho]

Young.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If he's. That might be 24.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he's young. That's why I say he gonna be here.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's gonna be 24.

[Ocho]

Yeah, see, he gonna be. Oh, yeah. He gonna be around for a while. He gonna be around for a while.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm not around. What, coaching?

[Ocho]

Not NFL. Come on, don't do him like that now. He's 20, 24.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, Joe. They gonna give you that many. They're not gonna give you that many more opportunities. Ojo, dude, how many.

[Ocho]

How many more opportunities had Nathan Peterman got?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now? If Peter. Hey, hey, hey. First of all, Peterman is a noun. I mean, he a bird. Oh, you out there, Peterman. That mean you playing terrible. Is he in the league? I don't know if he in the league.

[Ocho]

He's a backup somewhere. He's a backup somewhere.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nathan Peterman.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ah, man, that Joe pulled a Peterman. I was joking you to say, hey, man, that joke pulled a Peterman today.

[Ocho]

Hey, listen, if. If. If he can continue to be a backup and have. And have a role and have a job in this NFL, Trey Lance can't as well. And I think he will have a. Oh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, he with the Falcons.

[Ocho]

See what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Lord have mercy.

[Ocho]

See what. See what I mean? He get. He get an opportunity. There's no reason why Trey Lance won't be on the roster. There's no reason why he can't go out here and have a good last game and put on a good showing. Where Jerry?

[Chad Ochocinco]

He on the practice squad. O. He on the practice squad.

[Ocho]

I know what you mean.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, that.

[Ocho]

Listen, but he's there. That's a job. That's a check. Yeah, Jerry, it ain't. It ain't much. It ain't much, you know, compared to other NFL players, but it's a check.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. He in the NFL? I mean, hey, when they ask you what you do. I'm in the NFL, okay. Yeah, I'm with the Falcons. I don't got to go in that. I don't got to say all. What I do. I'm with the Falcons, damn it.

[Ocho]

That's it. That's all that matter.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't got to tell you. I'm on the practice squad.

[Ocho]

I'm on. I'm on a team.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, when you in college, you say, hey, yeah, yeah. What position you play? I play such and such. Don't ask me if I play. I'm on the team, damn it. So you asking, too. You see you getting personal. You know what I'm saying? I say I play for the Tigers. I play running back.

[Ocho]

Hey, hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what I'm saying?

[Ocho]

Go ahead, real quick. I didn't drink too much water.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that's a. Well, this is Trey Lance's opportunity to show that if he can, that he has something. Because, look, obviously he showed something in the draft process. I know it was only one year. He got really hurt by that Covid season he played at Football Subdivision, which is the level right below 1A, and then he only had one year starting, and then Covid came, and then he sat out that year, and so he really did. That's. That's. That's not a whole lot of. Of play time, especially not playing at a. At a. At a very high level. And so I think that hurt him a lot, but he had to show enough to that with team. I mean, the 49ers weren't one of the only team that thought had. That had a high draft grade on it. So I hope he goes out there and shows something. Damn. Cause there ain't but so many more. There ain't but so many opportunities that you can get before they, like, you know what? My man just say he just ain't got it. And then. But this is his opportunity. There are a lot of other guys that gonna be out there playing. He playing for a job, but he not the only one on the roster that's playing for a job.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

This is your opportunity to show. Hey, this tape goes out. Everybody that playing, they gonna be back with the Cowboys.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm trying to show. Hey, I'm trying to show somebody I can play. But he played, you Know he played at the same university that Carson Wentz went to, but I think Wentz was like a two or three year starter. What good luck.

[Ocho]

Trey Handy, Adventist wife.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ocho. Seahawks rookie DT Byron Murphy II took his teammates out for dinner and was pranked with a fake dinner bill of 155,000.

[Ocho]

Oh, funny boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

His reaction was priceless. His actual dinner bill wasn't much better. It was $38,000.

[Ocho]

Hey, that's good, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Did y'all ever prank the rookies?

[Ocho]

Listen, I had. I mean, as. When I was a veteran, I didn't make the rookies do. Do rookie night. I did. Now, when I was a rookie, I never forget Peter Ward, Darnay Scott, Ron Dugan's. Danny Farmer was there at the time. Tj. Now, I had to pay for Ricky dinner that night. I can't remember what the price was, but it. It was. It was a little hefty, but.38,000. Thinking about that. That ain't much, huh? That ain't much. When you look at some of the linemen, when the linemen go. Go out, man, I've seen. I've seen some of those. Some of those receipts. When them boys go out, boy, it'd be expensive.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, you start ordering, you start ordering that King Lou, you can order that King Louis.

[Ocho]

They do it on purpose.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Five hundred, a thousand dollars a shot.

[Ocho]

They do it on purpose.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Fifteen shots of that, and then they gonna order that big. They gonna order a bottle of wine that end up costing like 10 grand.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You get the big end, you get the lobster. You know, they bring the lobster around on the wagon, and the lobster this big. The way y'all. Y'all. I know y'all seen it. They bring new lobster around in the wagon, right? He think he going for a ride. Little do you know.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, they don't be playing, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They don't be playing. Look, Portis and Ashley Lalit, their rookie night out. We hit them for about 22,000.

[Ocho]

See, that ain't bad.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, me, I had to have a. I had a limo, you know? Cause I ain't want nobody because they gonna go other places. I had a relationship. Y'all not finna get me broken up in the middle of the season. I know, Ocho. I know my. I know my limitations. I ain't fooling with y'all. Same thing I tell my homeboys when they come, you know, hey, Shop, come on, let's go out. No, bro. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're not gonna mess with My home and leave.

[Ocho]

Right? Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, absolutely not. I give some of my tea. Hey. Hey, bro. You going out? Yeah, man. Hey, my homeboy's in town, man. Shop, you know, we got him.

[Ocho]

Hey, all right. There you go. You good?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. But other than that, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Now, listen, if you're a rookie, and you're not only a rookie, and you're a rookie, man, listen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, we Ricky cross the grove.

[Ocho]

Oh, they coming together.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cause I got a limo. I got a limo. Cause I got a limo by myself. Daddy sent a limo for me because I wasn't going out with them. I wasn't going out with them afterwards. So I needed a limo that was going to take me back because I didn't want aid. No, no, no, no. I'm going home. Right? So. But, you know, back then, I think you had to get limo for like, for like five, six hours, seven hours. It was probably like 100 miles an hour. It wasn't no sweat like that. But the only thing I made sure of. O. Yeah. I wouldn't let you get stuff to take home. I don't care if your mom. I don't care if you're dead. I don't care if anything. Strictly, you're not getting stuff. No, no, no, no. I'm not going to. No, no, no, no. We're not going to do that.

[Ocho]

Strictly.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Us, us, us, us. So that was. That was like 22,000. I mean, you know, we, you know, the guys order King Louis. They order, you know, like a 15 protrusion bottle of, you know, wine or Rothschild, whatever it was. They get a couple of bottles that I said, bro, y'all. But, you know, they got to get. They got to get the most expensive steak. They got to get the lobster. They got to get the everything. So it. It. It didn't cost them. I mean, 22,000 wasn't. That wasn't that much, but. Oh, yeah, you gonna pay.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If somebody say, oh, I wouldn't pay. Oh, yeah, you would. Oh, we're gonna take it out your check.

[Ocho]

You gonna pay?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You gonna pay.

[Ocho]

Oh, it's coming.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We are not going. That's been handed down the first round draft pick. Second round. A lot of times we let them. Y'all pull together. A lot of times the first rounder had to pay dinner for himself. I remember they hit my brother. I think they hit my brother for like 12, 13 grand. But the thing is, is that you gotta do that if you're a rookie. You got to bring donuts, you got to bring breakfast sandwiches, You've got to bring food to the plane. I did it. You don't know how many times I'm hustling and bustling. I'm dressed like Jethro Bodine. Tie hanging all up, man, about to fall off my ass, man. Ocho. Don't laugh, Ocho. Cause I gotta go, man. This dude, he want Kentucky Fried Chicken. He want Popeyes. He want this. I gotta go all around the place, man. Yeah. Oh, hell no. That's why I was like, I gotta make the team. Yeah. All this they got me doing, I'm gonna have me somebody doing this issue. Oh, man, hell no. But we did all that rookie singing, Ocho. I went bigger, I went big into the hazing. We make rookie saying, you know, we might steal their car and drive that off or something like that. But all that. I ain't cut nobody hair. Cause ain't nobody cutting my hair. Cause it really. It'll been, you cut my hair, it gonna be a problem. So we're not going to do that. So I would. We didn't cut anybody here. You know, at Baltimore, we take the rookies to the gold poll. That was hard.

[Ocho]

Put them in the cold tub.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Put them in the cold tub. Yeah, we tap tape them up and put them in the cold tub. Stuff like that. Oh. But mainly we make them sing. Not your album. I don't want to hear about your fight song. I don't want to hear about your album. You got to sing some Luther Vandross, Barry White, I don't care.

[Ocho]

Hey, whatever you know the words to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Other than your damn fight song, so. But yeah, but that was, that was. Yeah, that was back in the day. That was back in. Yeah, we used to steal people cars and stuff like that. We. It's funny because to pass the time, it's like grown men, we behave like 8, 7 and 8 year olds.

[Ocho]

Little kids. Yeah. Oh, there was some good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Amon Ross St. Brown thinks the NFL should make a rule change. Let's take a listen to the change he recommends.

[Ocho]

Okay. The bull shouldn't be changed, obviously. If you win a division, you know, you should obviously make your playoff squad. But having a 14 win team having to go on the road is kind of crazy. But I guess, you know, I don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Make the rules, so.

[Ocho]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, we're not gonna change the rules. Cause y'all might lose the game. It'd be a 14 and win a 14 win team and go on the road. That ain't how we do it.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's been like that, Ocho.

[Ocho]

So, well, listen, they going to Minnesota, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

They play Minnesota, Minnesota comes to them.

[Ocho]

Oh, Minnesota comes to them.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes. They already beat Minnesota on the walker. They kicked the field goal.

[Ocho]

Yeah, but what is he complaining about then?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because they might lose, be 14 and 0 and they have to start the season on the road.

[Ocho]

I know. Yeah, listen, that's, that's nothing you should even worry about. Especially that goddamn high powered offense. There should be nothing you worry about whether you playing home or whether you playing home on the way. I understand the advantage that play that teams have playing at home. But listen, the way, the way y'all rocking offensively right now, I wouldn't care if we was playing in Sahara desert. If Dan Campbell is my coach and he got that wheelbarrow with him, cojones he carrying him every time he's coaching. I'm not tripping. I am not tripping.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he. So I don't agree. I think you and I both, we don't agree because the rules are the rules. We're not going to change the rule because we have an anomaly, right. How many times the 14 win team has had to start on the road. So, so one time it happened in the end of 100 plus year history. Right? Now we gonna make a rule. So what? Nah, we're not gonna do that.

[Ocho]

It was, it was a great suggestion. Yeah, but, but the team, you know, and how y'all are playing on the road and at home, it really don't matter. It don't matter.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So. No, what he's saying though, Ocho, is that if, if we have a better record, right. Than a division winner, we should be at home and they should have to go on the road.

[Ocho]

Okay, I see what you said.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They won the division. That's the reward you get for winning the division and that you get to play at least one game at home.

[Ocho]

At home. Yeah, I see what he's saying.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Oo, yeah. A husband brought Christmas gifts for his ex's kid using his current wife's credit card. No, you got to Listen to this. Oo, check a. Listen to. Take a look at this.

[Ocho]

Let me get this correct. You're not obligated to buy another woman who you used to date her children toys. You're not obligated to do that. What makes you feel like you have a right to do that and take my credit card? I have nothing to do with that. Katina, it's our credit card. Just cause it's your credit card. We are married, so that means it's our credit card. So you gonna be disrespectful like that and spend my money, our money, on some other kids? There ain't no some other kids, Tatina. They once was in my life once upon a time. That was my ex. As her children, they don't know their father. Their father is locked up in the car sale. So I bought them kids. Well, I know one thing. I know one thing. You better run me back my money. You better put that money.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You don't even sound right.

[Ocho]

I don't want to hear no more of this. Talking about this. No, no, no, no. You better put my money. Don't walk away from me when I'm trying to have a conversation with you. Make sure you put my money back on my car. Okay? I like the situation. I understand. I understand where he's coming from. It's ex. I used to date the kids situation. Been around him for a very long time. Understanding the circumstance that they're in. Mom might not be in a position to be able to get the kids the gifts. It's the holidays. You know what? I'm going to take it upon myself to get gifts for the kids because I know they might not be able to get them because there's nobody in your life to do so because their child, I mean their father is incarcerated. Now as the woman, I understand where she's coming from as well. Man, what you doing? You ain't dating her no more. Now he didn't get anything for the woman, he got it for the kids. Now that you know, when it comes to the kids, I don't play by the kids. So I have a good understanding of why he did it. And I also see her side where it's coming from. They have a joint account. I think what he should have done is he should have let her know first. I say, baby, listen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There you go.

[Ocho]

Listen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Why did he let her know? Yeah, the other people say she should have let her know. Why didn't he let her know?

[Ocho]

Because he knew if he told her, she was gonna say, you ain't doing that because you're not with that you're not with the lady no more. And those kids aren't your responsibility. But the, the woman also not understanding the I hate it's not the word chemistry. The relationship I had having those kids in my life.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You care so much about them, why don't you stay, huh? Why don't you stay in those kids life if the dad is not there, they don't know that dad. You care about them kids so much, why don't you stay?

[Ocho]

You had to say it like that with me. Me and the mama, we ain't just we didn't work out. We work out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But if kids wasn't enough to keep you there, I thought you stayed for the kids.

[Ocho]

I'm talking about that specific situation. Hey, listen, I understand where she coming from, but listen. And you know how, you know how you get in that conversation that he didn't even arguing back? I'm just saying if I was in his shoes. Baby, listen, I know I spend the money. I know you don't like it. What I'm gonna do, I'm gonna put the money back on your car. Matter of fact, I'm a double what I spent and put it back on the car.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that's a conversation you have before. That's a conversation you have if you're in a marriage. And you know, first of all, you know that's gonna. Cause, yeah. Money out of a. Money out of sight. Cause a fight.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because now she don't know where that money went. Now you told her, Babe, what $500? What thousand dollars win? Well, you know, my ex, I don't really know a whole lot of people that's gonna be okay if they're married or they're in a relationship with their partner, be it man or woman buying gifts for the ex's kid.

[Ocho]

Whoa, whoa, wait.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I could be wrong. Then it might be some, huh?

[Ocho]

Were they his? They weren't his kids though.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They weren't his kids.

[Ocho]

Yeah, see. Okay, okay, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no, no. Not his kids.

[Ocho]

I see some women would be understanding if the kids were yours. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, you ain't got no choice but to be a damn understanding. They're my kids. I'm buying gifts to understand with that one now. But I do understand a man or female. I don't want people to say, well, if she'd have done it, it would have been a problem too. Right. Because I would have understand the husband being upset that you buying your ex's kids gift. I get that. But in that situation, when it's something like that, where, you know, it could tear the fabric, the trust, the foundation of your relationship, I. You got to run that. Hey, you got to run that buyer.

[Ocho]

And then you know what? You know what's funny? He understood. It's all about knowing your woman. It's all about knowing who you. Who you're dating. It's all about knowing who you're married to. He already understood. He already knew the assignment. And knowing that this is something that I actually can't even tell her because I know she's not going to agree with it, which is why he did it without letting her know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ocho. But when you put it on the credit card and she see the bill, like, well, why the hell?

[Ocho]

Who.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who buying? Who buys stuff at Tours R Us? Who buying? Who buying? So what you saying?

[Ocho]

I told you what you got to do, though, huh? It's very easy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know. Don't worry about it. Ocho. You mute. Ocho.

[Ocho]

Okay. Can you hear me now?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Okay, listen, all you got to do is. Baby, listen, I apologize. I'm sorry I didn't let you know ahead of time because I knew it wouldn't sit right with you. But what I'm going to do for you is. And not only am I going to put the money back on what I spent, I'm going to give you a little bit more so you can go treat yourself to something nice. Boom. Everything solved. Matter of fact, did you eat today yet? Come on, Rag, real quick. Let's go grab a little bite to eat.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boom. She ain't trying to hear that.

[Ocho]

Hey, listen, I just said that's all I got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think the thing is, with her, they're like, okay, you still feel this way about this kid? You probably still feel something about her.

[Ocho]

Oh, come on now, huh? You could be able to. You could separate the two. Now, come on now. I done married you. I done married you. You already know. Listen, the kids, they was in my life, I feel some type of way about them not knowing they not going to have anything for Christmas. Come on now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

She probably said, how is that my problem?

[Ocho]

See, that's. Oh, well, women. Women. Women, mean.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes. Ocho, you married?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Your wife take money from your account and buy her ex kids? Boy, you gonna be hard, Ocho. I already know you. You can't look at. Let me tell you something about me, especially men that's in our position, right? We're very territorial. We very possessive. And the mere fact that somebody might be fishing in our pond Leaves me feeling some type of way.

[Ocho]

Well, I'm gonna stop you right there. I'm telling you. I'm tell you one thing about my pawn and just me. So now we gotta understand, they had.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm telling you. I said you were married.

[Ocho]

Oh, okay, okay. But let's say you see what you just said now, right? In this situation, they had joint. Joint bank accounts.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Ocho]

I ain't haven't joined Nathaniel with nobody. Now, that ain't happening. Married, divorced, ex girlfriend. None of that. We not having nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think you should have a joint. But you also have an individual account. But here's the thing, though, Ocho. Here's where you're gonna run into the problem again. You're gonna lose a trust because you're doing stuff and you didn't tell her. So now she's gonna have to question what else haven't you told me about?

[Ocho]

So you notice you got. You had to build that back up, huh? You gonna have to build that back up. That's all. You got to build it back up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Just. I think the thing is for me is that, look, I'm gonna be. Look, now, when it comes to my kids, when it comes to my family, I ain't telling you ish. I. I ain't finna lie to you now, if it come to my homeboy. Hey, bucket, need to get. Hey, look, I'm gonna take a few dollars.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Buck it down. And look, Burns, need a little something. Blah, blah, blah. Okay, Boom. But when it comes to my right.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They know nothing to be. Ain't nothing to be discussed. Right?

[Ocho]

Period.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ain't nothing.

[Ocho]

And listen, and if it's a problem they go to don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It ain't gonna be no problem. Because I think the thing is with me, people that deal with me that anybody that's ever dealt with me, they already know how I am with my family, right? You hear how I speak about my brother? If you're here, I speak about my sister. Look, my kids know I'm last option, not first choice. But I got them. If it's necessary, if it's a necessity, they understand that I don't really do all that stuff because a lot of times, people like for me, Ocho, let me tell you something that I'm not going to do. I'm not going to try to buy my kids for the time that I missed. I'm not going to do that. So, no, I made sure my kids left college with no debt. I bought them a vehicle because I felt I owed my kid an Education. I owed him that. But to buy houses and buy cars and to buy this and that because I sacrificed that time. No, no, no, no, no. That ain't happening. That's not right. I told my kids we had this conversation. I'm not seeing. Y'all think I get on here. Oh, no. I tell my kids I can't buy lost time. It's the one thing that I cannot get back. That's the number one currency. It's time. I'm your father. I'm your last option, not first choice. Because I've equipped you, your mom and I have equipped you with the tools for you to go out to be the world, to be successful. Now, I understand that everything is not gonna go perfect right now. If you talk to me, dad here. This is what I'm thinking. Okay? Okay. Why do you think you need to do it like this? Have you thought about doing it any other way? You come to me and says, okay, this is what I'm thinking, and it doesn't work out, I got you. But don't bring your ass to me after you done did it on your own. Try to be sneaky with it.

[Ocho]

Now you got. You gotta save the date.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, but like I said. What? My f. My. If I'm with somebody and her family, she like Shannon, you know, my mom, X, Y and Z. I got you. If we in this thing together, we in this thing together. That's how. That's how I am now. Everybody might have. Might might be different. But if she needs something, I got it. But when it comes to. When it comes to my family, my brother, my sister. Because for the longest time, mocho, that was all we had. That was all I had. I know my sister got money for her boyfriend to give to me. And my brother, he would run money by my Savannah. When I was at Savannah State, he run by them. 50 coming good?

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Come in handy. Yeah, he made sure. Damn it. Every Friday he passes through. Hey, Shaw, somebody looking for you. I already know who it was. He be out there in the parking lot, right? Hand me the $50. But, yeah, I just think the thing is, Ocho, this could have been handled had he. Look, babe, you know, ex. You know I was with Quida, right? I was with her for like five or six years. Kids. I just want to do something for him. The dad is going through with it. She's going through a hard time. I just want to get him a gift. Maybe you might a.

[Ocho]

She was going to say that. She won't say no. You're gonna say then she was gonna say no. That's why. That's why he tell her there's certain things you can't tell that there's something. It's all about honest.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Get away.

[Ocho]

Hold on. A black woman at that. You think you finna and we in a joint account, man, man, please, man. Absolutely not. No, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But you know what? I do, I do have a soft spot for kid. A soft spot for kids, you know. But no, I, I look at it. Look, the big account. What a big dollar? Oh, no. Ain't nobody name on that. But Ocho, you'll never have go to get some money. Mr. Sharp, there's no money in this account. It had me crash out.

[Ocho]

The funny thing about it is. Well, I mean, not. Shoot, man, I ain't gonna put my business out there, but.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think you and I, look, have the conversation before. It's probably not going to go well. And then, you know, hey, you have to try to, you know, listen, I.

[Ocho]

Tell you, like my grandma used to say, this too, shall pass.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. But that's tough. That's tough to have a. I mean, I don't know, maybe that's common, Ocho. Maybe that's common.

[Ocho]

Oh, no, I don't know. No, no, no, no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But I'm saying maybe that's common that somebody was in somebody's life for that period of time using the kids life from the time they were like two or three to the time they were like 12, so forth and so on. Man or female, male or female. I don't know. It's just. Let's just say I've never been in that position, right? And so I would just like. I think the communication is the best thing. But you're probably right. She probably going to say no.

[Ocho]

Yeah, probably she gonna say no. You know, I've never been. I've never been in that situation. I never had. But just listening to it, I'm just giving a hypothetical on what I could do if the situation presented itself, you know, that's it. Especially if I. If I. I've been with someone who's had kids and I understand the circumstance and the situation the kids are in and understand that the mom is not going to be able to, man, you know, I, you know, do do something, man, you know, here go 5, 10,000, you know, take care of the kids for Christmas. Make sure they good, you know, whatever it may be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah. You try to get a divorce, you go up 5 to 10,000. Bad, bad.

[Ocho]

We talk about. We talk about our circumstance.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho]

You know. You know that. That's. That's. That's. That's. I was thinking.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I was thinking more along. Five hundred. A thousand?

[Ocho]

Yeah, I mean. I mean. I mean five. I mean, you gotta think 5000. Ten thousand is a hundred, 100,000, you know, to. Never mind how many kids is Ocho. They said it was only three.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, three.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Don't make sure they get a good Christmas. I mean, you know, what's five, ten thousand? Somebody like you. Man, I ain't now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bad boy. Yeah. Five, ten thousand. Cribble. All right, George. You ain't gonna get paid this much, Joe. Like ball. Dad, they got nothing to do with me. Oh, man. I was like, boy. Oh, I was thinking, like maybe a thousand. Two thousand Ochs in five to ten. Damn. That means real. That cripple. You get that cribble. Keep the lights on. Keep the lights on. Keeping them. Keep them in the apartment another month or two.

[Ocho]

Like $500,000 for three kids. What the hell you ain't gonna get. They ain't gonna get nothing. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, look, you right, Ocho. 5, $10,000 for somebody like myself and you and I. Not a whole lot of money. I mean, so. But he probably put out about a 500.

[Ocho]

A thousand.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm thinking 500.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And.

[Ocho]

But listen, I can understand her frustrations, you know. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But I. But I. But I tell you what. I know. A. Even now, the situation. Oh, she gonna feel some type of way Five, five. Five to ten thousand.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cause now she gonna be. Oh, y'all. Y'all were really. Y'all were really connected. Y'all was really locked in.

[Ocho]

Listen, I was just throwing the number out there. I was just throwing it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But you throwing enough out there that she gonna think y'all really locked in. You still might be locked in. Yeah.

[Ocho]

And I just.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now it's time for our SPIDER segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Ocho]

Let's go, chief. Hey, Aaron Rodgers. I know you probably watch him. Let's go tomorrow, baby. Come on, now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Lanny. Ray. Hey, guys. Thanks for helping me achieve my New Year's resolution by letting me attend a live show in Noak, New Orleans. Which one of you guys are picking my vikes tomorrow? And which one of y'all gonna be wrong? Who you taking? Ocho.

[Ocho]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Thank you for that question, lady. Ray. Glad to see you back. Bars must be closed.

[Ocho]

Listen, honestly, Detroit is playing so well offensively. I know Montgomery is out. Jameric Gilles will be able to show the load but that guy. And Brian Flores got that defense playing so well, man, Due to the injuries that the Lions have suffered. I'm. I'm. I'm edging. I'm edging out. It's going to be a shootout, though. I'm edging out. The Vikings getting away with this one, and I got them winning the game simply because of the injuries defensively, you know, for.

[Chad Ochocinco]

For the.

[Ocho]

For the Lions. Even though, man, Brian. Brian Branch and. And Kirby Joseph, man, they haven't. They. They had one hell of a year.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You see Kirby. You see Joseph ain't make the Pro bowl.

[Ocho]

Leading the NFL. And intercepted with nine at the safety position.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, it happened. I remember one year, Simon Fletcher, he led the NFL in sacks, and he didn't get selected. So it's happened before.

[Ocho]

Yeah. That is crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ocho taking the bikes. I can't pick with oo. He bad luck. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, lady. I'm taking. I'm taking the. I'm taking the Lions. Brandon hall, new member. Love the show, bro. Thank you so much. I really, really appreciate that. Thank you for stopping by. Hopefully you love the content that Ocho and I put out four or five nights a week, but we appreciate your support. Thank you, Brandon. We really appreciate that. Zachary Fields. It's my birthday, and I just wanted to wish give vibes for nightcap fam in 2025 also. Who they. Who they. Who they think is gonna beat them? Bingos. Who they. Who they're gonna beat them? No, everybody was.

[Ocho]

Nobody. Nobody. Who they.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You see how y'all. You see how you can't have a little prosperity? Y'all can't handle no little prosperity. I won a few games, huh?

[Ocho]

A few. We ain't lost in five weeks. What you talking about, a few?

[Chad Ochocinco]

And there was a couple of times y'all hadn't won in five weeks. So by the time y'all average. Exactly. Thank you, bro. I appreciate that, man. And happy birthday, Aaron. Over. Thank God the Bengals won because Ocho gonna cry. Was gonna cry in the car. Yep, he sure was. I was gonna make sure he cried on air, too. Yeah, but he gonna cry tomorrow night.

[Ocho]

Oh, no, I'm definitely not. I already. I told you how the game was gonna go. Matter of fact, I want my money in ones because I'm gonna go to the strip club. I'm gonna throw him. I'm gonna throw him. I'm gonna tell. I'm tell the dancer.

[Chad Ochocinco]

New Orleans ain't got no strip clubs.

[Ocho]

Who?

[Chad Ochocinco]

New Orleans.

[Ocho]

Yeah, they do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They don't I don't know. Don't start me to lie.

[Ocho]

I'm sure they do. They got some. Well, if they ain't got no strip club, we'll bring the strippers to us then.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, we ain't. Don't. They. We ain't gonna do nothing. Don't. Don't put me in your mess with your. No, you don't wanna.

[Ocho]

You don't want to have a good time with your money.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No. All right.

[Ocho]

All right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We're gonna be busy working.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Isaiah Lancaster, who do you guys get bounced in the first round next week of the playoffs? And can you drop new merch with your quote never accept anything in a win you wouldn't in a loss that's coming? Isaiah well, whomever the five seed is, they're gonna be. I got them beating the Texans.

[Ocho]

Now what happened if C.J. stroud and that offensive line decided to block and C.J. stroud having a day with Nico Collins.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That'S probably. He gonna probably go against the Chargers. Khalil Mack Bosa.

[Ocho]

I don't even. I don't even like the thought of that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So if I had to pick, I think that would be. And it could be a situation. The four seed is the Rams. So I can see a scenario where both five seeds beat the four seeds. The Lions or the Vikes play. Minnesota play and obviously it'll be in la. And the five seed I think would be the Chargers. I can definitely see them beating the Houston Texas Guatemalan. Dude, if you're. If any of your playoff teams don't nobody want to see Joey B. Make the playoffs. That team is playing hot and Joey Burrow is making plays.

[Ocho]

Thank you. That's what I'm talking about. Somebody that can actually see it. That's what I'm talking. I appreciate that Guatemala, whatever, whatever your name is. But I appreciate you because un can't see it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's it.

[Ocho]

He don't know. He gonna know. He gonna understand tomorrow and he gonna understand next week when we make it into the first round. And we demise.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We gotta play Axel Bravo. Stop lying. You're terrified for the Broncos. Denver and Miami got all the pressure on Sunday. No one wants to face the Bengals in the playoffs. Yeah, they're not going to be in the playoffs.

[Ocho]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y'all not gonna be the playoff.

[Ocho]

Okay, okay, listen. I can't convince you because I'm not on the field, but I let. I let the game tomorrow. I let Carson Wentz and Aaron Rodgers do the talking.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y'all, bro, y'all scored 19 points. Stop pretending like y'all scored 40.

[Ocho]

Hold on, hold on. We play. We played a divisional opponent. A team score is always low. Always. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No.

[Ocho]

Who they? Who they?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, who they typically? Ray Charles can see that. This offense, Bengals are playing bad. The Bengals are playing bad offenses. Nobody watched the game and said, oh, we're scared to play the Bengals. You sound silly. They're not going to the playoffs. Stop. Thank you, Tim. And not.

[Ocho]

You could tell. Tim probably got one eye. I guarantee you Tim got one eye. Cause I don't know what the hell he been looking at. What you been watching the past four, five weeks, man, stop playing. Stop playing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Angie Carr, 4,000 yards passing, 900 yards rushing, 40 touchdowns, four ints. Insane stats. Lamar is him. Henry, 1900 yards. First player in history with 3:15 plunder plus rush season.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Rushing yard season, 15 touchdowns. Ocho, what y'all put in the water in Florida?

[Ocho]

Shoot, ain't nothing but a little, you know, little mixture of Kool Aid, you know, ice cream trucks, candy, lady house, you know, Listen, when we drink water, we drink the water from the water holes on the side of the house. That's how it all start. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ashley Moore Wilder's weapons for now for the mvp. But it didn't stop Mahomes when he had Hill and Kelsey. When Brady had Moss, when Aaron had Adams, Montana had Rife. But we draw the line with Lamar and Henry.

[Ocho]

Listen, I like that you just said that. What you need to understand is, is when it comes to certain individuals, they will constantly move the goal post to support whatever narrative they want to run with. And that is what they're going to do. You got. You got to understand that they will move the goal post, which is. What's they going to do. I have a feeling. I can feel it. The fact that John is still leading an mvp. MVP boating race with drag kings. I'm not sure what Vegas has odds at. This is what this is. This is what they do. They trying to give it to Him. Matter of fact, if Lamar Jackson don't win mvp, we riot. How about we me and you?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I ain't. I don't care that boy, that MVP ain't putting nothing in my pocket. A dope. Miguel Sosa, greetings from Mexico. Go Falcons. Yeah, y'all about to go on vacation, Miguel, but thank you. Vivian Ekime. Uncle Nocho, what do you think the reason why Mahomes was not selected to the Pro Bowl?

[Ocho]

What do you mean?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think it's the third time, it's the third time since the Pro Bowl's been selected that a quarterback that has won 14 games wasn't selected. Each time that has happened, the quarterback that wasn't selected won the Super Bowl. Tom Brady in 2003 wasn't selected. He won the Super Bowl. Phil Sims in 1986, he won the Super Bowl. And now Patrick Mahomes. We'll see if history repeats itself.

[Ocho]

Yeah, but we know why. We know why he wasn't selected. If you watch Mahomes play the entire season outside the past, what, maybe three or four weeks, he hasn't played well at all. They won the games they needed to win because of him playing extremely.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's played. He's played well when he had to. But overall, based on the Mahomes that we're used to seeing, this was a down. This was a down year.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, a down year for Patrick Mahomes is 28, 29 touchdowns, 11 interceptions and almost 4,000 yards. That's a down year. That just goes to show you how high the bar is that he set for himself. Big Mike said, you think Saquon will regret not pushing harder for that record 10 years from now? Going to pay, signing and not all the time. Not going, going to pay, signing and not being the all time leading rusher in a single season. I think opportunities like this don't come along often. I mean, you got to think about it, only three men have held that record since probably the 60s, 50s, Jim Brown, O.J. simpson, Eric Dickinson. So you gotta go back 60, maybe even almost 70 years.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think Perry. I think Joe Perry had it first, then Jim broke his record, and then obviously OJ and then Ed.

[Ocho]

Yes, man, you know, I don't want to give myself hot. I don't even get upset about it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, because they don't do. I mean, look, I. I don't think. Ain't nothing we could do, Ocho. And it seems like we're. We're more upset than. Yeah, but he says they said he's Gonna rest. He says he's okay with it. They're bigger plans, they got a higher purpose. But I don't believe those are mutually exclusive. I don't believe because you get one, you. You lose out on the other. No, I believe you could have them both. But hey, that's not our decision, Ocho. I think we voiced the side that we stand on. But hey, Diane west says so. I'm in the online store stocking on my nightcap gear. Can I make a few requests? What about socks, underwear, lady, T shirt, V cut or low cut? I want my T shirt to match my panties when I watch the games at home. Okay, I like that.

[Ocho]

Matter of fact, you know what we can have?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Like for the ladies, right? For the ladies, we can have nightcap, underwear, right? It can say nightcap on the back and on the front it could say. You could say Uncle Nocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no. Cause an old dude gonna come up to me, why you got Uncle Nocho on the front of your draws?

[Ocho]

That's the whole point.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Why did. How about we just have it on the rim, maybe like nightcap on the rim, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Okay, but then we have exclusive because we both have fans, right? We have nightcap on the back, right? And then you can either buy. You could buy panties that say Ocho on the front or you could buy panties, don't say.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, look.

[Ocho]

Hey, that's a good idea though. Like we can have a. We can have lingerie.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no, I like. You know what we have. We are thinking about socks. Diane, Danny, the T shirts. We talk to our. Our designer and see how we can make that. How we can make something that's. That's. Yeah, but I think they want something. You know how women be.

[Ocho]

I like that. I like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wow, man. This joker here, I like that lingerie. Brandon said, hey, guys, I'm 25. I have a crush on a 24 year old coworker. No, bro, don't stick your dick in your wallet. All the women out there in the world and you find one woman at work. But let me finish what he said, Ocho. I have a Crush on a 24 year old coworker. I now suspect she's flirting or being too playful with a much younger co worker of ours. I'm bothered cause I bought her a necklace with her name on it for Christmas. I'm hurt, y'all.

[Ocho]

Man, why you leaving with money in the first place, man, what is you doing? You don't leave with money. You don't do that. Never do that. Ever. Go get your chain back. Like Ti did. Nunu go, you. I know you saw ATL go snatch your chain back the same way Ti took Nunu chain back. You don't do that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You don't leave with money, bro. My grandfather told us something at a very young age. He said, boy, never put your dick in your wallet. Now, if y'all don't understand what I'm saying is that you at work, that's where you make your money. Now it's gonna go bad. Now when it does, then what? That's how you know you gotta be careful with them gym romances. Because I look at the gym as my sanctuary. Now it goes sideways. Don't. Yo.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Which one of us. Which one of us is not going back to that gym? Cause I'm not fit to have you up in there acting a fool all up in my face. Because the first thing. Because first of all, people don't really know you. They go, oh, man, I saw Shannon Sharp. He was arguing with some girl. He didn't. Discussion in the corner.

[Ocho]

You see, bro, they don't. Don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Just be. Bro. I'm just saying, look, it's. I don't know where you. I don't know where you work. Even if you work at Apple, Google, if you work on a campus, they got a hundred thousand people, bro. Go outside, bro. Don't mess your buddy up.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Don't eat with your shit.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, Lord. Greg said, can you give my daughter Gia a birthday shout out? She's 14 today. My mug and T shirt came yesterday, Greg. Absolutely. Happy birthday, Gia. Greg, thank you for watching the show. Thank you for being so supportive with the purchase of the mug and the T shirt. Hopefully you enjoy what you ordered, and it's a great quality. We know it is, but we thank you. Appreciate your support, bro. King Don said, can y'all wish my son Caston happy third birthday? Caston, Happy third, bro. You're too young to remember this, but one day you're gonna grow up and say, you know what? Uncle Nocho wished me a happy birthday. My dad got up and asked him to wish me a happy birthday. And they did. Kaston, happy 3rd birthday and many more to come. Marquez. What's up, Hugginoco? Today is a special day. It's my girls Ali's birthday. Can you please shout her out? For the one time love of the show, Happy New Year. Yes, sir. Allie, happy birthday. Your guy, Marquez wanted to let you know how special you are and how fortunate he is to have you in his life. So happy Birthday. Enjoy this day. Hopefully you guys did something very fun, very romantic, very special.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Enjoy this day and many more to come.

[Ocho]

Happy birthday to Dominique.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Uncle Nocho. Love nightcap question for y'all. I placed an order for laportier maybe three months ago. When you did the limited edition. Never got it. I've reached out to service. Haven't got any help. Who do I reach out to shoot Ash? An email, A direct message because I want to see. So we can trace, you know, we can track it. Because that's not like us to drop the ball and not just like totally send it out. But if you could do that, we would greatly, greatly appreciate that. And we'll get it taken care of. Ace said you guys can wish my sister Carrie a happy early birthday from her little brother Carrie. Happy early birthday from Ace. The Nightcap crew, Okunocho and family want to wish you one. So hopefully you enjoy your birthday and do something fun. Enrique Robles. Ocho, much love. My birthday is today. Would love a shout out to big 26. If you were a past GM, would you trade that pick or take Travis? Thank you very much. Love what pick they got number one. I'm trading it. I'm trading. I can get. I can get. I can. I can get a lot. It all depends now if I get T. Higgins might think about keeping it. Yeah, hold on, hold on now. It all depends. What else can I get now? Let's just say I give that pick, you give me Miles Garrett. And your number one pick, could that interest you?

[Ocho]

It could.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because I get something to help Drake. May I get something to help my defense go along? Gonzalez.

[Ocho]

But you know, well, that puts him right back in the same situation, though, where that mean Miles Garrett. I mean, he wants to go to a contender. Why would you do that to us?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Hold on, Ocho. Listen, I know you want to go to contender, but I'm going send your ass to whoever give me the best price. Cause contenders. This is what we know, Ocho. Contenders are not going to give you the best price. Thank you for joining us. The Bengals keep their playoff hopes alive with a 1914 victory over the Steelers. And the Baltimore Ravens win the division. The AFC north with a 3510 win over Cleveland. Baltimore secures the number three seed. They will play the winner of. If San Diego wins, they go to the six spot.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Love socket. If the Chargers win. The Chargers win. Ocho, they're six. No, if the Chargers win, they're five. The Steelers are six. If the Chargers lose. The Steelers are five and the Chargers are six. So the sixth seed will be either the Chargers or the Steelers, and they face the Ravens. The five seed will also be the Chargers or the Stealing and they'll face the Texans. That's the only thing that we know. What we do know, somebody's going to Buffalo. Either it's going to be Cincinnati, either it's going to be Miami, or it's going to be the Broncos. 7 goes to 2, 6 goes to 3, 5 goes to 4. One has to buy thank you for joining us for another edition of Nightcap. I'm your favorite unc Shannon Sharp. That guy is Liberty City's own Happy the Bengals won Bingo's Ring of Fame honoree Pro Bowler that's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please hit that subscribe button. Please hit that like button and please subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from every subscriber count we thank you for mattering. Please check out check out Shave by laportier. We do have it in stock. Want you to celebrate 2025. Hopefully it's off to a great start. What better way to celebrate than with a bottle of Shea by La Portier? We have it. If we can't if you can't find it in a state or city near you, order it and we'll ship it directly to your door. Please drink responsibly. Go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled out, our newest release just dropped last month. T shirts, sweats, beanies, coozas and mugs. Quantities are limited, so please make sure you grab yours while supplies Last tickets for our very first super bowl show. It's our first tour stop spring tour stop and it's going to be in New Orleans February 6th. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. We got great guests lined up. Make sure you be there. You're not going to want to miss this. The Bengals defeat the Steelers. Excuse me. 1917 not 1914, 1917 keep their playoff hopes alive. Hopefully they're hoping the Bengals lose and the Dolphins lose or tie. If those two scenarios happen, the Bengals are the seventh seed and they'll go on the road to face the Buffalo Bills. The Baltimore Ravens 13510 Lamar Jackson 217 yards, 2 passing touchdowns Derrick Henry 138 rushing yards, 2 rushing touchdowns. He became set a record for the most rushed touchdowns in Ravens history. Also, he became the first player in NFL history to have two seasons in which he rushed for over 1900 yards in a single season. He's also the first back to have what, four seasons in which he rushed for at least 4001500 yards and had at least 15 touchdowns. Is it three or four? Three or four for. Derrick Henry had the. He was everything that the Ravens had hoped for when they. When they brought him in. He has three seasons. Derek Henry has three seasons which he's rushed for at least 1500 yards and had at least 15 rush touchdowns. Baltimore brought Derrick Henry in and believed that he was everything they could hope for. The Dallas Cowboys had no interest in Derrick Henry because they would believe he could offer them nothing. He added no value to their team.

[Ocho]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, one team is going to the playoffs, the other team is going home. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow night after Sunday night football game. Oh, and that's the. The Lions and the Packers. So we'll see you tomorrow.

[Ocho]

Lions.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean Lions and Vikings. Excuse me. Lions and Vikings. We'll see you after the Lions. Vikings game. I'm up. He's Ocho. See you tomorrow night. Thanks for joining us.

[Ocho]

The volume.