Nightcap Hour 2: Lamont Roach Jr. joins NIGHTCAP + Chip Kelly was MESSING UP play calls + Justin Fields SPEAKS on GETTING BENCHED + D-Wade LEBRON vs MJ

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2 – Episode Summary

Episode Date: November 27, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, Joe Johnson
Special Guest: Lamont Roach Jr.

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Episode Overview

This lively Nightcap episode features Shannon Sharpe, Chad Johnson (Ochocinco), and Joe Johnson joined by rising boxing contender Lamont Roach Jr. The hour pivots between insightful sports talk and signature comedic banter. Topics include Lamont Roach Jr.’s next moves in boxing, inside perspectives on NFL coaching drama, Justin Fields’ benching, Steph Curry’s anticipated shoe brand move, and Dwyane Wade’s nuanced take on the LeBron-MJ GOAT debate. Questions from fans wrap the show, keeping the mood light and candid.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Lamont Roach Jr. Joins the Show & Boxing Talk

Timestamps: 02:31 – 18:43

• Roach’s Move to Super Lightweight (140 lbs):

  • Roach discusses the physical and strategic advantages of fighting at 140 rather than 135, noting less draining weight cuts.

    "It's always a lot better when I don't gotta cut that much weight. So I'm good." – Roach Jr. (03:12)

• Breaking Down the Next Fight Against Isaac “Pitbull” Cruz:

  • Roach explains the challenge of Cruz's pressure style but commits to standing his ground and mixing it up.

    "It ain't gonna—I ain't gonna do as much moving as y'all think I am." – Roach Jr. (04:51)

  • Explains his strategy: being well-conditioned for 12 rounds, targeting body shots and breaking Cruz’s high guard.

• Future Ambitions & Callouts:

  • Roach wants the WBC world title, sees unification as an ideal goal. Potential next opponents: the WBC champion at 140, Shakur Stevenson, and Gary Antoine Russell.

    "I want to fight whoever the WBC champion will be at 140, then Shakur, because I think it’s the best fight in boxing... and then third, I'd like to fight Gary Antoine Russell." (12:50)

  • Speaks candidly about moving beyond seeking a Gervonta “Tank” Davis fight.

• Weight Clauses, Rituals, & Fight Prep:

  • No rehydration clause in his contracts – “Boxing is boxing. People been losing weight forever. What you need a rehydration clause for?” (07:50)
  • On fight rituals: Keeps camp focus and doesn’t abide by typical superstitions about abstinence, relying on sports science over myth. (09:15)
  • Trains in Tampa, credits local gym’s support and comfort.

• Boxing Influence & Style:

  • Early love for football, then boxing became his calling.
  • Lists Roy Jones Jr., Prince Naseem Hamed, and Emmanuel Augustus (Drunken Master) among his favorite fighters, along with current stars like Inoue and Bam Rodriguez.

    “I’m a boxing fan, so a lot of fighters impress me, old fighters, new fighters...” – Roach Jr. (15:02)

• Memorable Banter:

  • Chad jocularly offers himself up as Roach's "tune-up" fight; the hosts tease each other through the segment.
  • Planned post-fight theatrics if Roach wins ("make sure you call me out" – Ochocinco, 18:09).

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2. NFL Coaching Carousel & Team Dysfunction

Timestamps: 22:23 – 26:22

• Chip Kelly’s Reported Play Call Blunders with the Raiders:

  • Sharpe summarizes rumors about Kelly “messing up” play calls, referencing dysfunction within the Raiders and Tom Brady’s influence in hiring Kelly.

    “To hire a first-year coordinator and him be terminated before the season, that is a terrible look.” – Sharpe (23:23)

  • Discussion on the broader issue of organizational instability – coaching and GM turnover, quarterback struggles.

• The Hard Reality of Quarterback Success:

  • Both hosts agree not every team lands a Mahomes or Lamar; success also depends on drafting and supporting cast.

    “If you don’t catch one of the big fish like a Mahomes or Josh Allen… then your drafting prowess has to be that much better and being able to build around them.” – Ochocinco (24:28)

• Tom Brady as Talent Evaluator:

  • Skepticism about great players becoming great coaches or GMs, referencing Magic Johnson’s own coaching struggles.

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3. Justin Fields Benching & The Quarterback Grind

Timestamps: 40:36 – 48:38

• Fields’ Demotion:

  • Sharpe and Ochocinco react to Fields’ surprise and frustration at being benched by the Jets after signing a lucrative deal.

    “Hold on, Ocho, what do you mean you weren’t anticipating this, bro? You got four or five games in which you throw for less than 100 yards.” – Sharpe (41:09)

• Quarterback Environment Challenges:

  • Hard to win without adequate weapons; hosts note the Jets’ lack of supporting cast and broader pattern of organizational failure.

    “If you ain’t got no elite receivers, how you supposed to do all that?” – Joe Johnson (42:44)

• Mental Toll & Possible Team Fits:

  • Suggests Fields might be better off as a backup in a stable place like Baltimore, allowing recovery of confidence and growth.

    “You can’t keep Ocho, you can’t keep going places. You get a starting job and five, six weeks into the season, they bench you.” – Sharpe (48:13)

  • The group expresses empathy for Fields’ tough career trajectory and highlights the importance of confidence for QBs.

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4. Steph Curry Leaving Under Armour & The Shoe Game

Timestamps: 48:55 – 55:17

• Reasons for Split:

  • Reports say Curry left Under Armour over failed attempts to sign Caitlin Clark and underperformance of the Curry brand.

• Market Observations:

  • Hosts discuss the impossibility of anyone rivaling Nike’s dominance in sports apparel, despite Curry’s star power.

    “It's tough to beat Nike, Adidas, that have been at this for so long… you might have had a chance if Jordan never went to Nike.” – Sharpe (51:11)

• Speculation on New Deals:

  • Joe Johnson expects Curry to sign with a new brand (likely Nike) and debut something special, likely at All-Star Weekend.

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5. Dwyane Wade on LeBron vs MJ GOAT Debate

Timestamps: 56:08 – 60:13

• D-Wade's Take:

  • Dwyane Wade distinguishes between “greatest player I watched” (MJ) and “greatest player I’ve seen” (LeBron).

    “I'm going to say Michael Jordan is the greatest player I've ever watched. LeBron James is the greatest player I've ever seen.” – Quoting D-Wade (56:36)

• Hosts Reactions:

  • Sharpe and Johnson empathize, referencing their own generational heroes and direct experience playing with LeBron.

    “He's gonna be the GOAT when it comes to all these records, man.” – Joe Johnson (57:08)

• Appreciation for Modern Talent:

  • Discussion of LeBron’s versatile game and reflections on witnessing greatness across eras.

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6. Fan Q&A, Picks, and Playful Banter

Timestamps: 61:12 – 80:00

• NFL Prop Bets & Predictions:

  • The hosts run through their picks for the upcoming NFL games—expecting big performances from J.R. Gibbs, Dak Prescott, Mahomes, and George Pickens.

• Fan Questions Addressed:

  • Ranged from Ocho's rendezvous with Ronaldinho, pet ownership debates, team loyalty, and favorite Thanksgiving moments.
  • Ochocinco advocates for self-happiness (“Make yourself happy, man. Sometime you got to do what’s right for you…” – 69:18)

• Classic Storytelling:

  • Ocho and Sharpe riff on Ochocinco’s reputation, dating woes from “back in the day,” minimalist living, and household habits.

• Memorable Responses:

  • Ochocinco on patience and relationships:

    "Sometimes patient to have you looking like a fool. Cause I remember back in elementary… I was patient Joe. The whole summer…she picked some little ugly dude." (30:29)

  • Encourages a fan to “put your foot down” about getting a Cane Corso dog, with Sharpe cautioning about big-dog responsibilities (saved by Johnson’s humor).

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7. End-of-Show Topics

• Quick takes on college football picks, more listener love, and shoutouts to the guest (Lamont Roach Jr.), as well as thanks and Thanksgiving wishes.
• Shannon Sharpe signs off, reminding everyone to subscribe and support Club Shay Shay and his associated brands.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Lamont Roach Jr. (Boxing Hunger & Perspective):
  • "My career is never going to be based on one, one fighter. Never. I got bigger and better things to do." (07:28)
• Ochocinco (Showman Spirit):
  • “When you win this fight, …make sure you call me out.” (18:09)
• Shannon Sharpe (NFL Real Talk):
  • “To hire a first-year coordinator and him be terminated before the season, that is a terrible look.” (23:23)
• Joe Johnson (On Athletic Greatness):
  • “He's gonna be the GOAT when it comes to all these records, man.” (57:08)
• Ochocinco (Life and Dogs):
  • “If it make you happy, you get it.” (69:48)
• Sharpe & Ochocinco (Banters on Relationships):
  • “You can’t eat off everybody plate.” – Sharpe (31:59)
  • "I love me some hot dogs." – Ochocinco (61:50)

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Segment Timestamps (Highlights)

• 02:31 — Lamont Roach Jr. appears; boxing training and weight cut discussion
• 04:10 — Breakdown of upcoming fight and style matchup
• 07:50 — Contract clauses and post-fight plans
• 15:02 — Roach on boxing influences and favorite fighters
• 22:23 — Chip Kelly/Raiders playcalling drama & NFL instability
• 40:36 — Justin Fields’ benching and the quarterback grind
• 48:55 — Steph Curry and Under Armour split, athlete branding
• 56:08 — Dwyane Wade's LeBron vs. MJ debate
• 61:12 — Prop bets, favorite picks, and Q&A
• 69:27 — Dog ownership debate & life advice
• 75:56 — Thanksgiving memories and college football picks

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Final Thoughts

This Nightcap is a high-energy, authentic slice of modern sports talk: insightful about boxing’s politics, aware of NFL realities, and plugged-in to basketball’s legacy debates. Lamont Roach Jr.’s presence brings a fresh fighter’s mentality, echoed by the athletic journeys and relentless competitiveness of the hosts. The blend of serious analysis, playful ribbing, and heartfelt connection with the audience makes for a quintessential Club Shay Shay episode.

Subscribe, watch the fights, and be thankful—because as Shannon, Ocho, and Joe remind us, “It’s all about doing what makes you happy, on and off the field.”

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

We got a very special guest joining us. Ocho, we got Lamont Rose Jr joining us. Made the jump up to 140 from 135. Lamont, how you doing, bro?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I'm doing good, man. What's up, Ocho?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead, take it away.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What's up, baby? What'd they do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

What's up, man? I thought you're supposed to come down the camp and spa, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Scared, huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I ain't hear you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you said.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I thought you're supposed to come down to camp and spa.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, Lamont, boy, I got like 350 jobs right now, boys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Football season, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, he copy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Joe. I. I wanna.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, what's up, man?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, talk to me, baby. How training came? Training camp been so far?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Man, training camp been good, man. It's. It's always a lot better when I don't gotta cut that much weight. So I'm good.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. So you feel like, you feel a lot more comfortable being able to, to fight at 140 as opposed to having a cut?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Yeah, naturally. I think any fighter would, you know, more than likely feel a little bit more comfortable because it's that shit drains, you ain't gonna lie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do you walk, Lamont? What do you walk around at?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I walk around at like 150, like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, 10 pounds. And that's. I think that was the advantage that Floyd had. Floyd is not a naturally big man. Floyd cutting three pounds, five pounds to make it 147. So everybody else walking around 165 trying to kill, go down to 147 floor like, man, I took two days and I'm good. Let's go.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

No, for sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what do you expect? The biggest difference between Tank and Isaac Pitbull?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

It'll definitely be obviously the. Just the style, the pressure. The pressure style. That's about it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Listen, I was just getting ready to ask you the same thing. Obviously, going into training camp, I don't want to know your game plan because there's no reason to disclose that on the show. But understanding that he is a pressure fighter, what adjustments are you going to have to make to your game? Obviously, knowing that styles make fights and you have the style regards to him. Being a pressure fighter or not, you obviously going to have to bring your bicycle a little bit and fight off your back foot. Do you feel being able to do that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who I got to do that for?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Say, who you gonna stand your ground? Oh, for sure.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I'm. Mix it up. I mean, I ain't done.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

It ain't gonna. I ain't gonna do as much moving as y' all think I am.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, talk to me, talk to me.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, he walk into something. Hey, you pressure. Hey. Okay.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Yeah, for sure. He gonna be. I mean, he gonna be right there. So it's like, it's. I'm gonna be in shape, so I'm gonna be able to punch all night.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay. See, the one thing I wanted to ask too, obviously with. With Pitbull, obviously he's a pressure fighter, but he also had that goddamn high ass guard and always throwing them goddamn looping ass hooks. So you got to always be at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That body break, that guard.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm so excited. But hey, hold on, hold on. Hey, can I get a ticket to the fight?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Yeah, you gonna come?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Can I go to the fight?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, did you just say. Just tell Joey football season.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey. What, man? Oh, you don't. But I'm. Man, I've been waiting on this so long, bro. I've been waiting on this so long. And obviously I don't mean to count the eggs or the chickens before they hatch. I don't even know the goddamn saying. But no, I don't want to ask that because I, I shouldn't. I shouldn't say that because I wanted to know what your plan was going to be once you win this fight. I'm gonna talk for you, obviously.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

There we go.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

You want to get professional.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You don't. You don't have to say that, but when you win this fight, because I know what's going to happen. Styles wins fights. You have the. You are the better pure boxer. If you need to move, you can move. If you don't want to move, you can sit in the pocket. You could exchange.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

You.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You're very smart. We saw you how you were able to fight again against. Okay, so what are your plans after this fight? I know you're not supposed to look ahead. Just, just, just give me a tidbit. What's next after.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Not, not overlooking Pitbull, but. Right.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

We're all due respect to him.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Well, yeah, we're all due respect to him. After we win that, we're going to be the intern world champion at 140. So that's going to put us in line for the WBC world title. And the guy who has that belt, really? He just popped dirty for a drug test?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, no.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

He just popped dirty for a drug test. And he has a fight schedule, so who knows if he gets stripped or not. Either way, he was supposed to fight in January, so that's cool. Lines me up for somewhere. Because I'm gonna tell you right now, if, and if the Shakur fight is unavailable, right, if it's unavailable for us to do after he fights to we pressing the issue on the wbc, mandating that me and, me and the champion fight for sure.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you looking to circle back and fight Tank? If that's something that's on your radar? Are you looking, are you moving ahead?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

No, I move, I've been moved past that. Who knows, who knows what he's doing with his career, what he got going on, you know. But my career is never going to be based on one, one fighter. Never.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I got bigger and better things to do.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, there was a lot made about the Eubanks being the rehydration clause. Do you have a rehydration clause in your, in, in this, in this contract?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Hell nah, I ain't. Boxing is boxing. People been losing weight for, for forever. What you need a rehydration clause for? If you can make the weight, you can make the weight.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, hey, hey, hold on. Since you don't have no rehydration clause then, so how about this? After you beat Pitbull Cruz, right, How about I give you a tune up fight before your next one? I like that, I like that.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

As long as you can put them butts in the seat, we will.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We go, we gonna do it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I can feel it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, he gonna put the bus in the seat.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I don't feel a stadium. Quick. What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, ocho, he got 22 kids. He got 22 kids, Lamar. So we got 22 paying customers.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Hey.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

These hands different, boy. You hear me? My registered. What?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I heard it all before.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What? I don't even know that. I don't even know that song.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I heard it all before. I definitely heard that too.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Real talk. But I'm telling you. What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead, Joe.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Yeah, let me see.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Roach, tell me something, bro. You got any fight night rituals that do's and don'ts that you don't mind sharing?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Fight night rituals, do's and don'ts. Friday night Rituals, Superstitions.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Superstitions.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Superstition, man. Nah, not really.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, they say y' all ain't supposed to have sex during camp or before. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Is it something you eating?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

That's what I think we talked about that last time we was on Nightcap. Look, scientifically, my testosterone levels are higher. Yeah, scientifically. My sports doctor told me beyond four weeks is excessive. Said four weeks. Four weeks and under. You know, you might. You should save it after that four weeks. It's just going. It's gonna build up, but it ain't. It ain't going higher or it ain't. It's gonna be at max. So you're gonna be cool.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay, I like that. I like that.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how long was this training camp for you, Lamar?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

So I do eight week training camp, seven weeks, and then, you know, fight week.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So do you. Do you go off. You go to Big Bear, you go to, you know, Mammoth, you go to Colorado Springs.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I'm in Tampa right now, so Tampa's like my. My new home, man. They made. They made a home for me over there at the pro box gym. Like, I had my own office and everything. Like, they showed me. They showed me love.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Shout out to right down the street.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I told you, man. That's why I said you're supposed to come, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Why? You couldn't hit. You could have hit me. I'm right here in Miami.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Yeah, for sure. For sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He ain't trying to do nothing. He ain't trying to do nothing wrong.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Made me miss out on some, man. I could have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't make you miss out on nothing way over here on the West Coast. I'll make you miss out.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, but you got me working, like, seven days a week. I could have went to camp. Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What made you decide to take up boxing? Have you. How long have you been boxing? You've been a boxer your whole. I mean, you. Did you play any other sports? Basketball, football, baseball.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I played basketball, football, baseball, and I boxed. But, you know, I. Probably my first love was football. So, you know, every. Every little Youngin thought they was going to go to the NFL. I was one of them. I was one of.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Until I got to high school and.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I seen how big they was getting and I was losing weight. I'm like, miss me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What position.

[Joe Johnson]

What position?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I was playing? Running back, fullback, and linebacker. So, you know, I was linebacker. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I was out there. You know, these. These turned into something after I was out there striking.

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[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Literally, you know, Phenom. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you go on 140. So are you. Would you. After you, like, let's just say, for the sake of army, you get named the WBC Interim 140. Are you gonna stay at 140? Are you looking to go to 147, or are you gonna come back down to 135?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I'm gonna come back down to 135. I'm gonna see what's out there at 40. But I definitely want to go back to 35 because I feel like, you know, I was robbed of a championship, so I want to be champion at 135.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you might have to fight the guy that you felt that robbed you of the championship. You might have to fight him again.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Well, they say he retired. I don't know what's going on, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know if he made that kind of Floyd Mayweather money. He can just go call it a career. Maybe if he got that Jake Paul fight, maybe he could have done that.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Hey, maybe if he would have took the rematch, he would have got that, too, but, hey, yeah, you know.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know what? I'm not sure when it comes to boxing, if it's an unwritten rule to say names on. On potential, you know, people you would like to fight. And again, I'm not. I'm not trying to put the cart before the horse. Obviously, you know, you have a fight coming up. But if. Is there someone that you would like to fight next? I'm not saying you calling them out. I'm just saying a fight that you'd like to know, that, you know, it can continue and help your legacy and. And get your career going in the direction you want to based on the kind of people that you do fight and get in the ring with.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Yeah, I definitely have a preference. I want to fight whoever the WBC champion will be at 140, then Shakur, because I think it's the best fight in boxing. I think that'd be the best fight in our weight class to make, and I think that that'll be, you know, a super fan friendly fight, and everybody wants to see that fight because they've been calling for it ever since I fought my last fight. And then third, I'd like to fight Gary Antoine Russell. I don't know if y' all know who that is.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Yeah, he's a. He's a WBA champion at 140.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you trying to unify the 140 or 135?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Whichever. Whichever comes first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Yeah. When you, when you. When you go to camp and you're looking for sparring partners, are you trying to find partners that will resemble the fighter that you're going to actually fight? What are you looking for in a sparring partner?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

No, my dad handles all that, and he definitely looks for guys that resemble guys that are going to be. Yeah, that resembles. And guys who are actually, like, you know, going to be challenging as well, too. Like my spawn partners for this camp, a few of my spawn partners, they was tough. They was tough, they was big, they could take a shot, you know, they was rugged, gritty, you know, and they just so happen to be Mexican.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Anytime you want to press a fighter, you always got to get somebody Mexican. They coming forward no matter what.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Rose, did your dad the one got you in the boxing, bro?

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Basically, yeah, he took me to the gym, but he took my cousin to the gym, and it was for him, but he just asked me if it's like one you want to get in there. It was a rap. Yeah, rap. Since then.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's dope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you were hooked ever since.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Oh, for sure. I ain't missing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who are some of the fighters that you like? Damn. Obviously, Floyd, but there any fighters outside of that that you looked at like, well, damn. I kind of like. I kind of like his style. I kind of like what they've done. Some of the fighters that. That's impressed you a lot of.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I'm a boxing fan, so a lot of fighters impress me. Old fighters, new fighters. I want to say the fighters today that really impressed me, in a way. Bam Rodriguez.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nice boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In a way. Putting people to sleep.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Yeah, for sure. Yes. Yes. Who else? I like, I like. I like Stephen Fulton, too. That's my homie, though. Like, yeah, that's my homie. I like him. A lot of people, he punching. He's on his way to punching. His ticket to. To the hall of Fame, if people don't really know it's going for his third. Third world title in another weight class. So. Wow, he doing that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you. Did you. Did you watch boxing as a kid? Like, because the fights. I'm way older than you, Lamont, but I remember fights used to come on, like, regular tv, you know, I could watch Sweet Pete Whitaker, I could watch Chavez, I could watch all these fighters because they came on. They came on Saturday. You could watch them. So a lot of these fighters that became great, you actually could see them fight before pay per view. I mean, only the really, really big fights. But when they were coming up you could see them on regular television.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Yeah, I think that's the difference nowadays in today's sport, like in boxing today, like, there's not a lot of exposure now like it was back then. And that's why. I think that's why it's not as hype or as, you know, anticipated as the fights back then. And that's why the fights aren't so big, because they, they. Those fights been getting built up ever since. Like you said, as soon as they turn pro, you know, they got eyes on them. They got eyes on. Everybody can watch them. They know who they are. They see them coming up, and next thing you know, all right, these two guys are fighting, or he's a champion. He is the champion, or they about to fight. So, yeah, I used to watch fights when I was young. You know, my favorite fighters when I was younger were Roy Jones, Prince Nassim, my man, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Prince be showing out the ring, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And Joe, he just named one of my favorite fighters. Obviously, you know, from. I love boxing, but obviously those that have the entertaining aspect and bring that to the. To the ring. For me, the drunken master, Emmanuel.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Emmanuel Gustas.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Man. Hey, Lamont, I wish if I was a boxer, I would have looked exactly like that. I'm just being honest. I mean, it's no different than what the way I played the game of football. And I gotta entertain at the same time, you know, respect my craft and have fun. But, man, Emmanuel, Gus is the Prince Nassim. Ben Whitaker does it a little bit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Oh, man, Ben, Whit could be doing. He'd be doing. Hey, he be doing all day.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

He be doing it. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

But I don't know. I don't know. I, I, I, I, I, I just. God damn, I love. I love the sweet science, man.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

For sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, Lamont, man, good luck. Hey, good luck on Saturday. Do what you do. Do what you normally do, what you know how to do. Everybody at nightcap wishing you all the best. Hey, once you win that title, come back here and show us the belt.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Hey, nah, for sure. I got you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You gotta do me one favor.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

What's up?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

When they talk to you in the ring, right, and you give your speech after winning, and they say who you want to fight next, make sure you call me out.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Say no more.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Say no more. Be there.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

So you could jump in the ring after, you know, make it theatrical and.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay, okay. And then we could do it. We could do a face off, and then I'm gonna mush you. Okay.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I'm gonna mush no, no, I don't like that one. Like that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I like that one right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hit it with a bow. Catch it with one of them bolos. Lamont.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Nah, I got you, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, man, congratulations. All the success, continued success. We'll see you down the road, bro.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

I appreciate y', all, man. Y' all take care.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes Sir O Jojo, New reports have come out saying Chip Kelly was messing up his own play calls and calling plays not installed. According to Tom Pellissero, there are all kinds of different stories. They just kept the function of the Raiders offense. There were times I was told that Chip Kelly was repeating botching the plays call so Geno Smith was going to the line of script and saying this doesn't look right and they're not having a run. Play reports also indicate it was Tom Brady's ideal to hire Chip Kelly as OC and possibly potential successor to head coach Pete Carroll. Oh well, we know normally great players, they don't make the best head coaches and talent evaluators.

[Joe Johnson]

Now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, I don't know if this is true. That's what's being reported. So we just take this with a grain of salt. But Ocho, if this is true. Yeah, and that's bad Also that is reported that Brady didn't want Shador. We don't. Like I said, those are reports. That's not Ocho and I and Joe and that's not us. Chat. You guys have read the reports also. But to hire a first year coordinator and him be terminated before the season, that is a terrible look.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I think the thing is for the Raiders and this is probably a lot that has to do, why the Raiders have so much dysfunction because they don't have. And they haven't had stability in a very long time.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They don't have a coach longer than a couple of years. They don't have a GM longer than a couple years. They can't find a quarterback. They keep thinking that they're going to find that everybody is not meant to be Mahomes or Lamar or Josh Allen or Joe Burrow. Sometimes you're going to have to win with say a lesser, maybe not a tier one quarterback, but maybe he might need to be in that tier two. And then you get better pieces around him. Ocho. But this notion that everybody from the beginning of time has always had a number one quarterback is just not true.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, but this is, this is the thing. If you don't have a quarterback that's not like Brady or not like Mahomes or your Joe Burrows or your Lamars, then your drafting prowess has to be that much better and being able to build around them. So you have to hit on the, on your draft picks and the supporting cast, you know, around your quarterback in order to have success. If you don't catch one of the big fish like a damn Mahomes or Josh Allen, yes, that comes down to. That's on the organization as well. But it's very difficult, it's very difficult to, to, to hit not only on draft picks but to make sure they're going to stick, you know, for, for 10 years or more unless you, unless you get a quarterback. But it's, it's, it's up in the air.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's just hard for me to see, oh, a guy as great as Tom Brady being able to pick another Tom Brady.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That'S, that's tough there, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's. Now I'm not saying that if a free agent becomes available like John did with Peyton, but to draft one, it's hard for great. Most of the great evaluators, they weren't. Look at the guys that's picking those NBA players. Look at R.C. buford. Look at the guy that's in, in, in OKC.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sam Presti ain't Playing liquorball had. The only basket they had was Easter basket. Ain't had nothing about no basketball. No basketball. Basketball. So it's just hard. And I. Look, I get it. A guy that's. That's well accomplished as Brady, but it's gonna be hard for him to hit on players because he was so great.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. But you don't think.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he think it. Because what came easy to him, Ocho, is hard to everybody else. And he's like, man, I could do that in my sleep. Yeah. You Tom Brady. That's right.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Don't you think he might have success simply because he knows what it's supposed to look like? And the eye test every. Everyone has to have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I don't. I think it's even harder. Yeah. Because I had a conversation with Magic, and Magic said it's hard. He said, because it was easy for me. And I'm like, why can't you do that? And people say, well, because he's not Magic Johnson. Think about when you great. You basically think everybody else should be great because. And I'm not saying it's easy because there were some things that came easy, but you worked at it, right? So now things that came like second nature to you, it's like, damn, son, how many times we got to go over this?

[Joe Johnson]

That's why you ain't got no patience to coach.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the only thing that could help. That could help Tom. He sued up for one year to show him how it's done.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, nah. Because you got to have weapon, suit. You got to have some weapons. You just can't have no good quarterback, and you ain't got no weapons out there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, they traded the best receiver. Well, I mean, the best. The best player on the offensive side of football is Brock Bowers, but they traded their best receiver, which was Jacoby Myers. Well, if you trade your best receiver. What are you telling the team o joke?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that. That. That's basically a reset button. That's basically a reset button. Hey, let's say. How about this, Joe and uncle. Hypothetically speaking, okay. You know, effort. Brady say, you know what? I'm leaving the booth. I'm coming back to play quarterback for the Raiders in the off season. Mark Davis goes and get number three from the Cowboys, brings them on over there to Las Vegas. Oh, Joe, I'm just throwing that out there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. You tell me where a guy can make, let's see, September, October, November, December, January. And when they have the Super bowl work six months out of the year.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And make 37 and a half million dollars. Now, when you leaving your job where you make 37 and a half million dollars to work five months in two weeks.

[Joe Johnson]

It ain't happening.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm asking you, I'm asking Ocho, would you do that?

[Joe Johnson]

You know it ain't happening.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Is there a job.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That you make You. That you would leave your job? You make you work five months and two weeks when you have the Super Bowl, 37 and a half million dollars. Would you do that?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nope. Hey, I. I don't. I don't. Hey, listen. Hey, Joe. Hey, I know a job. You can make 37 million in a week, though. I mean, I don't think you want to do it, because the chance.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, and I know a place they'll send you to turn big rocks into little rocks.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, ojo. And why you always trying to give pick away to somebody, man? Why we just can't keep him in Dallas? Why are you trying to keep him away?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That one was I. I was best for picking his man, Joe, I'm saying.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, what's best is he looks so good.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I know what he looks like, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Why do you want to send him out there to Oakland somewhere? And the man getting double and triple team, now he ain't getting okay, now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You'Re acting like A.J.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I just want the man to get his money, Joe. And I know how you own a play, Joe. I know how you own a play, Joe. No disrespect to the Cowboys, you know, I just know how you play, you know, and, and, and, and, and, and his agent, you know, brother Mugaletta, he ain't going for that, man. We ain't playing them games like he played with Michael, man. Come on, man. Come on, Joe. He done did it. He didn't deal with everybody, Joe, all of a sudden, all of a sudden, now cutting the Pickens, everything's supposed to be so much more different. So anybody got time for that joke?

[Joe Johnson]

You never know. We gotta see how things play out.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, we didn't seen him play out with everybody else. What's supposed to make him any different? It played out with it. Damn. It. Played out with that. What the hell you think gonna make it different with pick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

5 million like Joe?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You gotta fight tooth and nail for your money, Joe. Every time.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm saying, I'm saying he gonna. He gonna fight Ocho, but you got to be patient. Have some patience.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know, they say patience is a virtue. But sometimes patient to have you looking like a fool. How you looking like a Fool. Because I remember back in elementary. And Joe, I was patient. This little girl, little girl named Tammy, you know?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

My pee coach told me, just be patient with him. I was patient Joe. The whole summer with a long Joe. And she ain't pick me. Yeah, she picked some little ugly. Some little ugly dude man named Corey. And he wore loafers at school with the penny in the front.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they call a penny loafer, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Come on, man. How you gonna. He got on loafers with a penny in the front.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Like how you don't see the potential in who I was gonna be. Look how it turned out easy because.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You came to school barefooted.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Now I wonder where she at now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ah, Tammy don't hate on Tabby.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tammy with an hour with a Y, huh? Don't hate on Tammy. Yeah, she probably, she probably mad Corey. And they probably, they probably happy ever after.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I, I, I, I guarantee. I, well, that's fine because I'm happy. Not too.

[Joe Johnson]

Right. Okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Corey probably ain't got to do all the stuff that you do now.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Shoot. That's my, my baby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nasty rascal.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I ain't, I ain't nasty. I'm just doing what God. God put me on earth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

God ain't do that. Don't put that on. God don't do that. On. Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

God put me here to be a blessing, and I'm blessing in all ways I can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho. Oh, all I'm saying, Ocho, is that you can't eat off everybody plate.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Well, I don't eat it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's like every house you go to, you don't eat at everybody's house, right, Joe?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I don't, I don't.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I go to everybody house.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You eat off everybody. Please.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I don't even. I don't even leave my house. I don't even go nowhere.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's so, you know that's a bigger speech, right?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I know it was a figure of speech, but I'm giving you a figure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Ocho, see them, them things, what you be getting? Oh, I already know you got to do all that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah, not really. Not really? Yeah. Hey, listen. Hey, hey. You gotta remember this. Me, I ain't really got to do nothing, honestly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you do.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you do.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Hold on.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Let's not, let's, let's not be fooled. This, this me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, go ahead.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I ain't got to do nothing. Now, I, I might choose to bless you in that manner if I feel like it, but I ain't got to do nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, there was once upon a time. Let me tell you why.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Talk to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because they got people out there that got just as much money as Ocho, that got named just as big as Ocho, because what? Oh. Want another wheel?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hold on. But if some ain't nobody and you don't build your.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't build your house on that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hold on. But this. This. It's. All that you just said is fine and dandy, right? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The word out.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It's something that nobody else got but me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They say Ocho got the best. Got the best jaws in town. That what the word is on the street. That's what. I'm sure that's what's out there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey. I got something nobody else got. Nobody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's only me, Joe. Everybody know. There was this one that was in college. Everybody. The word done got out.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah, nah, nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The word done got out.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, oh. Dancing. Oh, that was. Girl.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have your toes curled.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. That's what they say. That's what they say.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Say, Colin Jones.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe. Talking about he have you the pillow.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, okay. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They don't put the word out on it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, but y' all funny tonight, boy. Tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, but you know. Hey, you know what's crazy? Yeah, man, you do all that sober because you don't even.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, y'.

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, y'. All. Y' all rookies, man. Y', all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That would. They call them. They call them jaw, baby.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Y', all. Y', all. Y' all rookies. Y', all, y', all rookie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't even believe you, Ocho. As a matter of fact, we can't. We can't eat. We. We can't eat. We can't even.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No way. Hey, Joe. I told o' Tropical come down there. I would come down there on the vacation.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm bringing my own cups, my own plates, my own.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You ain't got to do that. I ain't got no goddamn. I ain't got no cups in place in here anyway. But ain't nothing in here, okay? Ain't nothing. When my kids come. They come here and I send them to the grocery store and get all the snacks you need. Get your cups and your paper plates. Make sure you get, you know, red solo cups. That's it. Don't leave no dishes in this sink. Whatever you use, make sure you throw it away when you leave.

[Joe Johnson]

I forget you said you was a minimalist.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm a minimalist, Joe. A minimalist.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I don't play that. Hey, hey. On Twitter. You can fight him at Jaws. That's his handle. I didn't mean to put that out there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean to put that out there because he got. He got a couple of them.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah. Hey. Nah, I'm listening. I. I got. I. I don't wanna. I see. I'm taking that, so I can't. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay. I don't wanna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You will always be taken. Probably you always will be taken. Cause that one, that one that we talked about in college. Did she not always have a boyfriend? Joe Always had one.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I don't know. I don't know what you're talking about.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Justin Fields spoke to reporters for the first time since being benched for Tyrod Taylor. Fields admitted the decision to remove him from the starting role wasn't one he was anticipating. Fields made it clear he's expected to be starting quarterback in the NFL again in the future. The jets signed feels to a two year, $40 million contract with 30 million of the money coming guaranteed, leaving the door open for the two sides to part ways after the season. Now that he's been demoted to a backup role, it appears likely that Fields would not be the quarterback in 2026.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, Ocho, what do you mean you weren't anticipating this, bro? You got four or five games in which you throw for less than 100 yards. You got a couple of games you throw for less than 60. What do you mean?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I mean, listen, obviously when he says what? What? What do you mean? Maybe he's surprised because what do I have to work with? There's a reason why I haven't been successful as a quarterback. Hell, before I got here, there were no other quarterbacks that were successful, you know, before. Before I got here. So maybe I'm not the problem, but.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They gonna say you weren't that successful in other places that you were either. Remember, you were. You. It was you that allowed them to get the number one pick.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, hey, I mean, you listen, you right. I'm with you when you're right, but I, They. They haven't found that quarterback yet. I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's the jets organization. I don't know if they did something bad. Oh, yeah, yeah, they just had. They just having bad luck all. All the way around. And I. I really thought, really, honestly, honestly, Joe, I really thought this was Justin Fields time. This was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I did too.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't lie. I agree.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

This is his team. He doesn't have to worry about anybody. No quarterbacks. You don't have to look over his shoulder. He can play with the free mind and just go out there and do what he needs to do. I'm sure Aaron Glenn said, you know, you are a guy. They gave him the keys and things just. I don't know. I don't know what went wrong, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, kind of like we was just talking about. I know they got Gary Wilson over there, but man, he.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He need.

[Joe Johnson]

He need weapons. Okay, Ocho, like we putting these quarterbacks in these positions, thinking they just supposed to come out here and light it up. Damn, if you ain't got no elite receivers, how you supposed to do all that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I'm saying. I would like all things being equal, Joe. Ocho, Justin Fields, your starting Quarterback. You a free agent? Are you going to the Jets?

[Joe Johnson]

If I'm a wide receiver.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wide receiver, Shoot. No, you're not. You're looking at the quarterback situation.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can go, hold on. I can go to the Rams or I can go to the Jets. I can go to Kansas City. I can go. No, Ocho, you're not. I'm going to Chicago. I'm not going to know. I'm just not. No and nobody no receiver because we know the receivers want the ball and that's how you, you're not going there. If I got a choice now, if I get traded there, I get drafted there, they've removed that from me.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But if I got a choice in free agency there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm not.

[Joe Johnson]

Just not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Though. Sam Donald, Gino Baker rebuilt their careers elsewhere. So let's, let's see. But.

[Joe Johnson]

It had been a few places I don't remember.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Chicago, Pittsburgh. Not a Jets. But here's the thing is that all those guys are different because most of those guys are really drop back quarterbacks can throw the ball from the pocket. That's really not, that's not field strength. So he's going to have to go somewhere Ocho a great place for him. But I don't, they don't. Look, they got Purdy and they got Mac Jones. Now would be San Francisco.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I mean hold on. What would the would be the difference in, in Trey Lance and Justin Fields? Because now you putting the break back in the same situation. They've already had a quarterback already like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The difference between Trey Lance they had expectations. You're the third pick in the draft. You own your third. You, this will be your fourth team. You don't have the same level of expectations. And guess what? He's not going to be a starter.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You're getting the same quarterback though. It's still the same thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't, you, you don't think Justin Fields is a better throw to football than Trey Lance? Because here's the thing with Trey Lance, Ocho, he basically played 17 games.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In his, in his, in his, in his collegiate career.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause remember he had that great season and then Covid happened. So. But he's going to have to go somewhere. And if you go, if they're having an influx of talent at the, at the wide receiver in the tight end position.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're not looking for Justin Fields. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Oh man, I, I, I hate that for young Bull. Honestly man, I hate that. Just that that has to do something to your confidence. Everything's didn't work out in Chicago. Hell, you go to goddamn Pittsburgh, you playing well, then they bench you. Once Russell Wilson gets healthy, you leave there, you come to New York things, you put all this work in in the off season. Finally I got my turn and my turn. I got my team, I got my opportunity and things don't work out. I just. This is. He's. I'm not even him. And I feel bad, you know, so I could understand what it's probably doing for him mentally. That has to be crushing, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What about Baltimore? Yeah. Can he go back up? Lamar?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, Yeah, I like that. That's a good one. That's a good one.

[Joe Johnson]

I like it because I, I don't think it's a bad idea to kind of have to sit and watch sometime, you know what I mean? And I'm sure his opportunity will come again, but I wouldn't mind seeing him sitting behind Lamar and just kind of watching. You never know what, what may happen.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I don't know. Damn, man. That's what is NFL crazy, boy. But you go, you go to a bad team, man. How you losing all your confidence, thinking there's something really wrong with you when there's really nothing wrong with you and just your surroundings. Now, as much as you want to adapt to your surroundings and when you're in a losing environment, there's not much you can do unless you special. You gotta be special to go to an environment like New York and change everything. Yeah, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he. Not that he's not that. I mean, Aaron Rodgers couldn't change it and Aaron Rodgers had Garrett Wilson and Devonte Adams and he couldn't change it with Breeze Hall. Look at, look at Devonte and at the Rams.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Cutting balling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Garrett Wilson was offensive rookie of the year with. Was it, was it Sam Darnold or was it. What's the guy name?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Zach Wilson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Maybe one of those guys. He has not looked the same since his rookie year.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I know he can play because based on what I saw his rookie season and they were supposed to be bringing in better quarterbacks than what he had as a rookie, Right? I don't know. Like I said, he might need to go somewhere. He might need to just go somewhere and sit for a year or so.

[Joe Johnson]

And wait for his opportunity to come back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because you can't keep Ocho, you can't keep going places. You get a starting job in five, six weeks into the season, they bench you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you, hey. You lose all your confidence.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Not.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Not Only do you lose all confidence. Then you're hesitant and don't. You can't play freely. If you cannot play the game of football with a free mind and play fast, you g. Oh, man. It just. That's not gonna be a good thing.

[Joe Johnson]

I agree. Kind of similar. Kind of similar to basketball. Reading that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? Like, if you out there thinking. If you're out there thinking, overthinking, thinking too much, the game gonna be tough for you. You have to go out there and read and react and make plays, bro.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You'd be one step behind.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steph Curry has reportedly parted ways with Under Armour after they failed to sign Caitlin Clark. According to reports, one sore point for Curry was he attempted last year to recruit Caitlin Clark to join his brand. He and the company pursued the phenom. But Under Armour offer. Failed offer. Excuse me. Trail the total value of Nike's pitch. Curry and his advisors became frustrated by what they viewed was an underinvestment in the brand. Meanwhile, the division sales weren't meeting the company's or Curry's expectation. Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's. That's kind of. Well, that's what I thought when I first. When I first seen that he's getting away from Under Armour. I was thinking that the sales probably wasn't what he predicted, but it is, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's.

[Joe Johnson]

It's funny seeing him in any other. Any other.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna be honest with y'.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

I've been seeing him in Nike Jordans. I'm like, it just don't. It just don't look.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's gonna look right after a while. Cause I'm gonna be having them on. Wait, what you got?

[Joe Johnson]

There we go. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know they're gonna write him a big check. I know they gonna write him a big check. So I'm sure he's probably enjoying this moment, though. Okay. Ocho being a free agent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he gets some cool stuff. I saw him in some. Some Tinker Hatfield, so you getting old stuff. I mean, he getting some. Some really, really, really cool stuff. He had Travis Scott's on tonight, The Mochas.

[Joe Johnson]

He been. Man, the man been wearing under armour for what, 13?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah. It's been that long?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, over a decade. He couldn't be caught in nothing else. You know what I mean? So, yeah, he's definitely enjoying this moment.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, yeah, it is a little weird.

[Joe Johnson]

To see him in anything else. But I'm curious to see who he's. Who he's gonna. Who he's gonna ultimately, you know, go with. To kind of, you know, start to support the Curry brand. But, man, if he'd have got Caitlin. What's this you got? Oh, he got them. Steph Curry edition.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Did he sign. Did he sign it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep. Hey, this thing gonna be worth something one day, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I might put these on because I think they my size. I might put these on and go drop 20.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It just looks. It's tough. It's tough to beat Nike Adidas that. That have. That have been at this for so long.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, not. I mean, had Jordan never went to Nike, you might have had a chance.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But ain't no shoe company gonna be. Not. Not when it comes to the. Not when it comes to athletic. They just got too much. They got too much for. For our research and development.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you remember, they came. They had the shocks and they had the air Maxes and they. They just. They just on the cutting edge and their apparel is just like. And I. I get it, but I just don't think even with Curry, they were going to never be. They were going to never be able to get a foothold because they had ucla. They had to get out of that contract. They had a couple of others. They had to get out of those contracts. They just. Curry, just go ahead, go to the highest bidder. Nike. Nike gonna give you some good, good solid money.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And ride it out for the next four or five years or however long you want to play.

[Joe Johnson]

You're right. Because I wonder what Under Armour trying to do if they lose Steph Curry. I'm sure he was a biggest.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. For sure.

[Joe Johnson]

Biggest draw.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had on Inescus. They sold out.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What's the Nescu.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sabrina Nescu, the point guard for the Liberty.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sold out. So he can. His influence.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, his influence. His influence is gonna be huge wherever he goes. So, I mean, this. This is a cool moment.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Going again by 15. Mid going forgive someone. 15, 20 million a year for a hundred million dollar deal for the next five years. Three logo. Huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's kind of low, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Nike. Nike got some. They got some hitters.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Over there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't got no job, man. That's lowball, okay? You just keep giving us free advertising. Okay?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

We talk about Steph Curry now. You talk about 100 million. They got. Damn. Gilbert Arenas made 100 million back then when he, when he, when he was playing Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He don't have a shoe deal. So you're Gonna keep wearing people stuff, giving them free promotion.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Well, it ain't really free promotion because everything you're wearing, obviously, you know, it's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Selling out and he's not getting a dime from it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What you think?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just told you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I know. I just.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, I'm gonna tell you what I think.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's lowballing.

[Joe Johnson]

I think. I think he's gonna. By February, he's gonna bend them, found a brand that he. He gonna sign with and probably, probably like All Star Weekend. He's probably gonna debut. Debut coming out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, it's, it's.

[Joe Johnson]

It's like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, to. And at that point, you're not really trying. You're just trying to get market share. You know, you're trying to get 2%, because you're never gonna put a big enough dent into, you know, Nike or Adidas or something like that. And then really.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was really the only Under Armour. At least if you look at Puma. Puma got a bunch got. You know, they got what. They got Lamello ball, and I think they got a Halliburton.

[Joe Johnson]

They got Scoop.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got a nice little rock.

[Joe Johnson]

They got the little.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, it ain't. It ain't. Hey, it ain't. It ain't the same, though. I. I guarantee you Nike can come up with something nice for the next four or five years, and their creative team could have a new shoe, a new model that would be really, really dope, that can rival some of the other players that are with Nike. They can get creative with it. They got the resources.

[Joe Johnson]

I think, I think. I think Adidas can, too. Adidas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Adidas.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Adidas got some nice. I like, I like, I like Ant Man.

[Joe Johnson]

Antman. James Harden.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Maybe New Balance got some guys over there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

No.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, not New Balance basketball shoes. Absolutely not. Adidas. Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't like them.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't like the Kawhi Leonards?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where they got Kawhi. They got what you call them, too. They got Cooper Fl.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, Joe. I've been working on my shot, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

You've been working on your shot right.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Here at home, Joe. Yeah, I'm. I'm waiting. I'm waiting on it all.

[Joe Johnson]

Who is that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Teddy Thanos.

[Joe Johnson]

Which one is that? Thanos.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, Thanos look like a bear cub. And you got to cut his hair. Uncle. His hair Getting big.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So it's getting cold out here. Dwayne Wade provided a take on Michael Jordan. LeBron James goat debate. D Wade said, I'm going to say Michael Jordan is the greatest player I've ever watched. He's the greatest player I've ever watched. LeBron James is the greatest player I've ever seen. You feeling me? I never saw Michael Jordan. I watched Michael Jordan. I. I saw. I've seen LeBron James up close and in person. I played against. I played with. I personally have not seen a greater basketball player, but I've watched a great basketball player. Joe, what's your take?

[Joe Johnson]

I. I totally understand what he's saying, Ocho. I grew up watching Michael Jordan. That's my goat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

He. He made the game sexy. He made it to where as a kid, bro, growing up in the 90s, I wanted to be like Mike, you know what I mean? But what D. Wade is saying, He. That's. That's probably who D. Wade grew up watching as well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But he played with LeBron James, who obviously, right now, every time he scores a bucket, it goes down in history. You know what I mean? Like, he is. He's gonna be the goat when it comes to all these records, man. So I understand what he's saying, you know, getting a chance to play with LeBron. I played with LeBron and 06 in the Olympics. Hell of a player, bro. Hell of a play. I mean, he. He has no weakness.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You was. You was on that 04 team, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I was on the 06. The. The redeemed team. We ain't getting no gold neither. Okay, Ocho. Oh, in the world championship, man. Mellow D. Wade, Braun. They owe me, bro. They owe me. Well, we went down there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, Argentina got y', all, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Argentine. Argentina.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They were good like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they were five.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they did. But they had this big dude in the middle O. Joe, I'm talking about. We had Dwight Howard and everything. And I'm talking about Apex. Dwight. Man, we couldn't do. But we couldn't do nothing with this big boy. They had down one thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Them big. They're gonna be able to pass the ball, and they got tremendous footwork.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm trying to do a big body.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Big body.

[Joe Johnson]

He wasn't shooting no threes or nothing in the paint.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was a bruiser.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, like Shaq.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but he was a lot shorter.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

But he w. He was wide body, man. I'm talking about. We couldn't stop him.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Dang.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you see LeBron last night? That performance that Luca Ar and Braun?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, they were easy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Easy. 25, 6, and 6. No stress on the box.

[Joe Johnson]

Uncle Ocho, Lakers got two of the bad white boys. I ain't seen Austin Reeves. Nah, I'm just kidding. Austin Reeves and Luka Daccius. And I think the beauty about all this is that Braun just kind of plays the Swiss army knife. He brings to the game what's needed. He don't go out there trying to score no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

30, 40.

[Joe Johnson]

He gonna be cool right at around, like, about 22 a game. When it all comes down. 22, 7 7. You know, he. He can do what he wants, Ocho. You know what I mean? He can feel the game out, and he can assess like, okay, boom. I ain't really got to do a lot of scoring right now. I could just facilitate these boys. Hottest fish grease out here, man. The way. The way Luca came, I said, that boy gonna go for 60.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First quarter, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I definitely thought he was gonna go for 60. He had 32 at the half. He cooled out a lot in the second half. He ended up only having 11 points. But he was going crazy that first quarter. I'm like, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I was, too. Probably the most beautiful thing about it is when he got going, you can see AR and Bruin, like, you know, they kind of just let him roll, you know what I mean? Like, they were not to take my turn. They let that man go until he just kind of, you know, started to cool off a little bit. And that's what I appreciate the most. Cause when you get a guy that's hot, man, you gotta feed him, see how far can he maintain this. And Luka was special in that first quarter, bro. Man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, it's time, Ojo. Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead.

[Joe Johnson]

My bad, Ocho. That boy shooting that thing effortless. Three, four feet behind the three.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had, like three of the rope. Four in a row, like, bop, bop, bop.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, you know, we can make this. I mean, for me, we can make it a better experience, right? It's one thing to talk about it, but, man, let's go sit court side of the game, man.

[Joe Johnson]

In what game?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Shoot, we can go to a Laker game. We got Hawks game.

[Joe Johnson]

We got a better chance at a house game than Laker game. Boy, you gonna pay arm and leg.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You don't know nobody. You don't know nobody over there. Get us free tickets for the house, for the Lakers.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, not no free one.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn. If we get some freedom for Atlanta.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, we better get. We better have. You better have your feet on the wood.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, Joe.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Hey, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Hey, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm Coming.

[Joe Johnson]

They'll bring you a glizz and everything you like.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I need two of them and a Coke with no ice.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, man. They bring you glizz and everything. You'd be good.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I could do that. I don't know what y' all got against hot dogs. Man. Y'. All. Y' all acting like y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just don't eat them.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I know, but I know y'. All. Y' all be laughing.

[Joe Johnson]

I ate hey ojo as a kid when we do the birthday parties. Hamburgers and hot dogs.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I used to get down. But I ain't really. You mean I ain't. I ain't really know.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I know you.

[Commercial Announcer]

You.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

At least you. You. You know, you live in a palace now. So I understand. You know you. You. That's far fetched from you.

[Joe Johnson]

Here we go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just keeping.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just keeping the 100.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I love me some hot dogs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have at it. It's time to play or fade. Presented by PR. All right, here we go. Here's the style. Six picks flex ahead of tomorrow's game. J.R. gibbs, more than 0.5 Russian or receiving touchdowns. Ocho, will he have one touchdown tomorrow?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. And that boy, he acted a plum.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Fool last week, last weekend or Sunday.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, so you think he gonna. The thing is, do you think you're.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gonna do it again?

[Joe Johnson]

That's my problem. It's like they'd be having him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He gonna score.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right. This for you, Joe. Dak Prescott More than 263 passing yards.

[Joe Johnson]

Who he play? Kansas City. Yeah, man, he gonna eat that up. Boy can go for about three songs. All right. You ain't playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe say go for three, son. I'm gonna ride that. Patrick Mahomes more than 267.5. Trey Smith is out the all program. The all pro right guard.

[Joe Johnson]

We finna have a feel they with them. Boy. We ain't playing. We ain't playing. I'm just letting y' all know. Yeah, I think. I think Mahomes gonna be under 268. I think my home will be on 260.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's gonna be a high scoring game. I think you're gonna go over. Let's go. We going over.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, this year, George Pick is more than a rush or receiving touchdown. He'll have at least one touchdown tomorrow.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Absolutely. He might have two.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kareem Hunt, a Russian or receiving touchdown. Will he have a Russian or receiving touchdown. Short yardage. He's this goal Line guy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Pacheco not back, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's had a touchdown in four straight games. Guys, I'm going. Yes. Lamar Jackson. Okay. Oo here it is. Lamar Jackson at least 29 rush yards.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, absolutely. And I. I can say that respectfully, you know. 29 rush yards on any goddamn body. I know, I know. It's my Bengals. He gonna have 29 rush yards. But we know who gonna come out with the victory. That's all that does matter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, the Ravens. All right, 25 to win 300. Download the app today. Use code Shannon to get 50 in lineups. When you play your first five dollar lineup, it's good to be right. All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Lavar Force it. Hey, Ocho, you're not alone. I suck toes and eat groceries.

[Odoo Advertiser]

Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Happy Thanksgiving, fella. And my fellow nightcappers. Ravens flop.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, Adam. Adam told that's where it's at, boy. I'm telling you especially. Hey, man, get you some ice, boy. Try this, man. Grind up some ice, man. Get some ice cubes and use the ice. You know, with the toad. A great combination, boy. You hear me? Thank me later. What.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Desmond Newton said. What's up, uncle no show. I'm at the hospital watching y'.

[Legal Disclaimer Voice]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Waiting for my first child to be born. I appreciate y' all killing the time while my nerves are up. Shout out to Sophie. Jordan. Daddy. Excited to meet you. Yes, definitely. Thank you for watching. Thank you for your support.

[Joe Johnson]

Congratulations.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mom and baby will be great. Come back and let us know. Obviously, you know it's going to be a girl, so. Because Sophia Joy. Excited to meet you too.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, congrats. Congrats, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mar said I'm a seahawk fan, but 12 is on deck. I'm proximately a Browns fan, so guess what? He said he a Shador fan. Basically, yeah. Yeah. Jason, C.J. more popular you are, the more haters you attract. That is so absolutely true. And I don't know why because most of the time you don't even know that person. Yeah, just what you see. Lprate98. Ocho, you got an opportunity to meet Ronaldinho yet?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Of course. I mean, if you. You do me a favor, go back. I've met Ronaldinho at Barcelona when he was there with ETO and. And Messi. Like it's many pitches with me and Ronald. I play with Ronaldinho here on. On the pitch. If you YouTube it. I had an assist from Ronaldinho. I mean with damn near we. I didn't know in about 15 years. Now a bunch of pictures of us online.

[Shannon Sharpe]

JKDS, DD, LK Nightcap is the best show on Ocho. Once a patriot, always a Patriots. Go, Pat. Yeah. Ocho. Once a Patriot, always a Patriot.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah. Go pets.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Caleb N. 999. 99. Just learned today Ocho gave Tom Brady his longest pass in that Super Bowl. They never say that about my guy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That was me. That was me. That was me. I ain't got no. I ain't got no ring, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna go ahead and order my funeral suit for you. Cause you keep thinking it's funny not paying uncle his money. You right.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What's. What's the. What's the funeral suit for?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thanos, we got to do something bad to a minute.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, man. Nah, nah, nah. I told you Christmas. Hey, watch it. Christmas morning. Check your account. Well, you're gonna be happy, but I boy to pay you my money.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Wow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Junior. Oh, Joe, I got Uncle's Ravens over your Bingles tomorrow night, and. Yes, back on here tomorrow night to celebrate. Yeah, Kemper, we got that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that's easy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's in the bag.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Everybody talking with a whole lot of confidence tonight. A whole lot of confidence. Joe, who you got winning, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

I got the Ravens, Ocho. But, but, but, but, but, but. Hold up. I. I think I. I want to see Joe Burrow. Get out there and look good, look comfortable, bro. I. I ain't just totally against y', all, but at 3 and 9, the Ravens been. They've been playing playoff football already.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You heard Joe said Oo, what y' all actually 3 and 8, but he said 3 and 9, so he already know subconsciously what's gonna happen.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Don't worry about it. Keep that same energy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jamal, the gunslinger. Oh, oh, oh. I need your help. I'm trying to get a Connie Corso, but my wife is iffy about it. Help me convince her that getting one is a good idea.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Who wear the pants, huh? What type of time you got to put your foot down? If it's something that you want, you got this. This is one of those situations you got to put your foot down. I know they say, happy wife, happy life. I understand that, but what about your happiness? What about how you feel?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What about doing something you want to.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Do for a change?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't do that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No.

[Joe Johnson]

How much time do you got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Responsibility.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They eat a lot. They poop a lot.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Are you trying to. The man say he wanted Connie?

[Lego Advertiser]

Course.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Are you supposed to support him?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm trying to explain the real clearly. He's never had a dog like that. I've had big dogs like. Hold on.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All dog gotta eat, huh? Small, big, little, a lot.

[Joe Johnson]

Them dog need exercise. It depends. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, man. Hey, get your dog, man. Don't listen to them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Does she like dogs? In the beginning, you might need to start out small and then work your way up. Get you a medium sized dog, you get you a. A lab. Or get you something like. Get you a. A Labrador.

[Joe Johnson]

He don't want that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Man don't want that. The man say he wanted a Cane Corso?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man. Been online looking at videos and everything. He wanted.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Make yourself happy, man. Sometime you got to do. You got to do what's. What's right for you and what you see fit. If it make you happy, you get it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm just saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Black accrue, White Acre, Ocho you that guy. And Shannon knows it, so don't listen to him. We love you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah. Toes and all. Yeah, all that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All y' all in that Jaws club, huh? Okay. They run around with these big, big answers, dog. They run around with these answers, big dog. They don't even make sense. Wade. Ocho, the Bengals play defense like James Harden, the defensive coordinator.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, come on.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that was a good one. That was a good one. That was a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Real wolf facts. Hey, Oo. What's the chance? When they. Wendy, when they gonna beat them Bengals tomorrow?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay, okay. Keep that. Hey, listen, all y', all, keep that same energy, man. I'm telling you, you're gonna see me on the field. I'm gonna be on the field. I'm on the field all game long. You gonna see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I saw you on the field with Ray knock your helmet off. You was on the field sprawled out. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And you. And you saw me get up, get ready to whoop Ray ass, too. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Put a. Put hands on me, Joe. You hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

I seen you. I seen you go back to the sideline hollering about you. The guy hit.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He talking about a different. I'm talking about when he knocked my helmet off back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He knocked his helmet slap off his head.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. He hit me so hard, Joe, my helmet went flying by 10 yards right before I even hit the ground. I was trying to get up, boy. Well, you got to see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he's trying to get. He went. Got the helmet first, though, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know that. Hey, that's cardinal rule number one. Anytime you get ready to fight, you got to Put your helmet on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to put your helmet on. Don't get caught slipping without that helmet. Sheldon. Po Night cap. Your opinion on Kenya Martin and Draymond going back and forth and. Ooh, did Kmart ever send your cigars for that playoff bet?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah. I'mma beat Kenya Martin ass. He. He. He don't need to be worried about no Draymond Green. He need to worry about me. It just. Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He just.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He just. Hey, whoever just said that just reminded me Kenya Martin owe me some cigars. Hey, Kenyon, when you see this boy, you got 24 hours, boy. Well, you got 24 hours, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know. You see it, huh? From the time you see it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Hey, I need. I need them sticks. I forgot. I forgot what I forgot what cigars.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We bet the Martins, the gold.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Daniel Marshalls.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Daniel Martin.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, hey, I need them, boy. I need them. I need them, Kmart. You know I love you. I love you like a brother. I don't want to have to do nothing to you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, look, Draymond has done what he's done. Kenyon did what he did. I. What We. What are we talking about? Draymond didn't. Didn't play against Kenya. Yeah, Kenya played against Guy. Look, there's. The basketball is positionless now, but it's. Yeah, we. We debating things we're gonna never be able to prove. What? I don't get why nobody questions the fact that Dylan and Stefanski have the same agent. Bundle caa. Guess who else? Dan Oski. Someone who's backs him on live. First take. Chad, how would you feel if the guy you're competing has the same agent as your coach?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I wouldn't care.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I wouldn't care as long as you get me my money.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, the money thing is a cool thing, but I'm talking about what. What? It's all about what you do on that field. It's all about what you do on that field. I don't care who. Who coaches who and who's who's agent, but when we get in between them lines, you not better than me. You're not better than me.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

That's.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

At some point, I mean, either they going to expose themselves by letting the person play in front of me knowing I'm better, but when I get my opportunity, I got to show up and show out.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

That's it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It's really that simple?

[Shannon Sharpe]

8:28 style. Back in the day, you used to say, I don't eat nothing and walk away when I'm finished with it. Things have changed now. You're absolutely right. You absolutely right.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, y' all nervous? Don't worry about it. Y' all get there. Y' all get there.

[Joe Johnson]

Connor, with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With. With AK Ocho. If you don't want to give Unc that money, I'll send you my cash app.

[Joe Johnson]

Kylie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

1, 2, 3, 4. Oo. You see Chelsea and Barcelona game?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that was very good. That was a very, very good game. I mean, Barcelona, Barcelona look like they ain't even got damn belong. I mean, Cucarella. Cucarella had goddamn Lamina Mall on locks all goddamn game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In April 1970, 1997. My grandma passed last month, one week before my birthday. I'm just not able to actually speak on it. She was my best friend, man. I miss her in my everything. I see, bro. I know, I know it's tough. It is extremely tough, man, nothing like them grandparents, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Boy, nothing like them, man. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Justin Underscore Antonio. What up, fam? I listen to the podcast every night on the road in my semi at work. Big fan. Can you give my daughter, Journey, a happy third birthday? Absolutely, Justin. Thank you, man. Thank you for the support. Thank you for when you drive it along those highways and byways. You got Nightcap on. So we can't thank you enough for that Journey. Your dad's out there making a living for you guys, making sure everything is copacetic at home, roof over your head, clothes on your back, and plenty of food on the table. So, Journey, happy third birthday from dad and the Nightcap crew. Sheldon Pope, Nightcap. Your opinions on Kenya, Mark? We already did that one, Ash. Happy Thanksgiving to the Big three. Much love. Thank you for everything you guys do. What's your favorite Thanksgiving memory? Watching Detroit Lions get beat. My cousin's coming over after belly full and we going out there playing football.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, man, I just forgot. Turkey ball tomorrow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I want.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, uncle, is that rude? You think I can go play Turkey bowl with somebody tomorrow in Baltimore?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sure.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that'll be funny as hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Florida man. What's your prediction on the Iron Bowl? Alabama is gonna be on bill upset alert.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You think so?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, Lord. Ty Simpson. Ty Simpson play like he played the last three weeks. They'll get beat bad. They win this game, they're going to the College Football Playoff. If not, they ain't going nowhere. They go to a bowl, they get a bowl.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That'd be their third lost then, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. Damn free Stacy B. Why is everything ignoring the Browns kick? They 29 a punt on the 29 yard line versus a field goal with 59 seconds left in the game versus the Raiders. I guess they want to run the score up. That's all I got for you, Annie. Og. Love, love. You guys always make me laugh. Who you got? Ohio state of Michigan. O8. Who you got?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Ocho and I got Ohio State winning that one, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm going against the grain. I'm going Michigan. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Them two receivers back Ocho, because you remember both of those two receipts. The star receivers at Ohio State missed last week.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Jeremiah Smith. Jeremiah Smith missed last week.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. And the other one.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, that's right. I forgot his leg. He was out. He was limping.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn. I don't even know if he's playing this game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Too late. You already picked it. Anyway, Christian, what's your reaction to Marco Marshall Falk being hired as the head coach of Southern University?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes, Southern.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, congratulations. That is my classmate in the 2011 HOF hall of Fame induction. So I'm happy for it. I'm. You know, I never would have thought Marshall wanted to coach, but you know, going working with time. He got the bug and he's off the. He's from Louisiana. Make it work, Marshall.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's what's up.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I sure wish you get the bug.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, I do not. The bug you got, though.

[Lamont Roach Jr.]

Nah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's about the bud to go, coach. Here you go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We want to thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. My partner and co host, the Liberty City's own bingo ring of fame honoree. A pro bowler and an all pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the Arkansas native. And the University of Arkansas alum. Seven time NBA all star with Atlanta Hawks, the Nets, Heat, Utah and the Boston Celtics. And the Phoenix Sun. Damn, Joe, you got a bunch of jersey that's ISO. Joe Johnson been around the block. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Check out Shaved by Laportier. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, head to laportierconac.com to order you a bottle and it gets shipped directly to your door. The best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it. Try it for yourself. Compare it against others. You'll be convinced. The best tasting, smoothest VSOP cognac on the market. Please. Drake responsible and stay safe. Check out my media company on all of his platform Shay Media and my clothing company 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. We want to thank our very, very special guest joining us tonight. Wandell Robinson and Lamont Ro Jr Lamont Roach Jr fight on Saturday night against Pitbull Cruise. So make sure you check that out. I'm un he's oo he's ISO. Thank you for joining us. We'll see you after the Ravens do a demolition on the Cincinnati Bengals tomorrow. Thank you. Have a very happy Thanksgiving. Stay safe everyone who they who thank you.

[Joe Johnson]

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Thanksgiving.

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[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sport but no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.