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Joe
Can, oh, they forgot they can match Tatum and Brown. And when Tatum and Brown ain't got Porzingis or pressure going off, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's tough. You know, Peyton Pritchard, he won six man of the year and he didn't really, he didn't give him nothing today. You know, 25 and three points. You know, Jason Tatum had 36 and nine, but man, they need, they need probably a little more from JB and Pritchard or White, you know, they look forward to him getting, getting, getting hot. But what's up with Drew Holiday? What do you heard?
Savannah Guthrie
I, I'm not sure. They were nine of 27 from the three. And that's the thing with the Celtics. It's hard for them to win if they don't shoot gym from the three, because a lot of their game is predicated on taking a bunch of threes and making a bunch of them. So we'll take 50, we'll take 55, 63s. If we can make 22, 23 of them, we like our chances. There are not very many teams that can consistently match the Celtics from the three point line. They took the most, they made the most threes in NBA history and their record is, speaks for itself. And I, I think that's what makes them tough because you, you, you're right. They got JB, they got a JT. They also have a Prezingas that can give you mid 20s, maybe even 30. You see Derrick White can go off, he can make 7, 8, 9, 10 threes. Peyton Pritchard, we see Peyton Pritchard score 40 point, 40 points in a ball game. So they got guys that can go fuego and get hot and shoot you out of the building. It's going to be, it's going to be very interesting to see what the matchup is. Jaylen Brown says the refs are letting the magic play too physical. There might be a fight breakout or something because it's starting to feel like it's not even basketball. And the refs are not controlling their Environment. So it is what it is. If you want to fight out there, we can do that. We can fight to see what goes in the second round. Do you like what JB having to say, Joe?
Joe
I do, I do. I like what he got to say. I mean, they competing at a high level, man. Like I say, this is physical basketball. At this point, the only thing that's going to change in any of these games is the physicality.
Savannah Guthrie
You got me?
Joe
It's like guys being physical, not letting you cut to the real Ocho. You know, everything you do, you know, we gonna touch you, it's gonna be physical. We not gonna let you do nothing easy. We gonna create havoc and cause discomfort. And that's what Orlando was doing. Look, I like to see Ben Carroll and Wagner shooting 25 and 27 field goals, even though he made 10 and 11. But that lets me know they being. They being aggressive, going to the rim and they gonna cause pressure. You know what I mean? Where guys got to help now they can get guys easy shots. Boston got their work cut out, man. Boston got that.
Savannah Guthrie
Yeah.
Joe
Got a series done.
Savannah Guthrie
Yeah. I think the thing is, plus Joe, is that I like because they should take half the damn shot. They're the two best players.
Joe
You right.
Savannah Guthrie
Why somebody else, why somebody else tried to pitch in and say, hey, man, y'all take 25, y'all took 27, let me get 18. Hell nah. Under 10.
Joe
Yeah, but you see that. But you see that from time to time. Like now we're in the playoffs. Every possession is valued and these guys are taking the initiative to come down, initiate the offense, get in. You know, whether it's running ISO post ups or just, you know, getting into the paint, you know, just causing havoc. It's going to make them a better team, man. They making Boston guard like you say. Boston already complaining that the series has been too physical. You look, JT went down with a wrist injury in game one, didn't play in game two. Now, J, I seen JB go down with a little injury today, too. So this is how it's going to be for the rest of the series. They understand being physical is in their favor. Meaning, you know, Philando.
Savannah Guthrie
And plus and plus and plus. Hold on, hold on. And plus, JB was in foul trouble a little bit tonight too. I think that didn't help their situation. But when you dealing with Banchero, who's a big body guy, he likes to play physical. He's a bumper car type of guy. He gonna bang you and bang you and bang you and get to that right shoulder and turn and turn around on you. Franz Wagner is a skilled and skill. He can. Yeah. Now the problem that they had this year, I think they'd had a better record. Bankero got hurt.
Joe
Yeah.
Savannah Guthrie
Wagner got hurt. And sometimes that those injuries overlap. Yeah. But if you go back and look at them when they played together. Oh, they for real. Yeah. Those young guns. For real. I love Bankero. He can really. He can really.
Joe
You know, Wagner, his brother is hurt. You know, he was, he was playing early in the year. Like they, you know, they down a major piece, but man, are they scrappy, bro. They create. They. Look, I've seen, I seen little Anthony Black pick Peyton Pritchard, a full court pick his pocket, you know what I mean? Like, none comes for Ojo. As soon as the ball come in 94ft, I'm right at your neck.
Savannah Guthrie
I'm pressuring you.
Joe
Yeah. Hey, this the playoffs, man. This is what it's about. So look, Orlando was competing at a high level. They gonna protect their home and they gonna make it tough for Boston. Man, this ain't gonna be no easy series.
Savannah Guthrie
Hold on, hold on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You say it's not gonna be an easy series if they continue to be scrappy, if they continue to play physical. Do you even give the Magic a chance to beat or even win this series? Or you just saying he's just going to make it close and interesting?
Joe
No, I think they're going to make it close and interesting. I can't see him beating in seven games though.
Savannah Guthrie
But I can see Boston winning four, two.
Joe
Yeah, yeah, I can see that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, so you just, you just giving the Magic two games even with the way they playing.
Savannah Guthrie
Yeah, but I'm. But I think Boston is the better team.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Savannah Guthrie
And normally the better team. It will play out over series. It's not. That's what you get when you talk about when you play series. You got to beat somebody four times. It's not like football is one and done. And sometimes the one, the best team doesn't always win, but the team that plays the best that day. Absolutely. So, yeah, for me, I think I could see. Be very interested in how this thing shape up now. Orlando get that game and now they go back to Boston. 2, 2.
Joe
Put the pressure on Boston.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I'm under pressure. That'll make it interesting.
Savannah Guthrie
The Bucks, first time in Milwaukee Bucks history they had two players score 35 points or more. They got 37. A career high. Playoff from G Gary Trent Jr knocked down nine three pointers, matching Ray Allen's Bucks record of nine. Giannis was Giannis. He gave you 37. He was 37. 12 and 6. Gary Trent Jr was 37 and with three rebounds, no assists, you're like, bro, I'm just gonna shoot it. I ain't helping nobody else. Get, get. Get your own basket.
Joe
Hey, listen, go ahead.
Savannah Guthrie
Go ahead, Joe, go ahead. No, go ahead.
Joe
They needed every bit of that 37 for Gary Trent. You know, see, my problem with Milwaukee is, you know, Dame coming off this calf injury, man, he not gonna be able to play at no high level for no. You know, I think by having him out there, it's just a decoy, but, you know, he can get high, he can make some shots. But I think with that calf injury is limiting him to, you know, how he's ultimately gonna be able to perform or help, you know, Milwaukee move on in this series. So Gary Trent, he won this game for him tonight. Man, he was on fire.
Savannah Guthrie
He was. He was. And plus, if you look at Indy, when they don't have their start, all their starters, normally their starters somewhere between 12 and 25, 26 points, and then they have a guy or two off the bench in double figures. Look, they got. Pascal Siakam has been playing well. Aaron Neesmith had 18, miles. Turner only gave a six. He normally gives you somewhere between 14 and 20. Nemhardt only gave you six. He normally in double figures over topping. He gave you 10 play. He didn't play bad. He didn't shoot well from the three. So Mather, he only gave you nine. And so that you're going to open yourself up if you guys don't play like you normally play, and you'll get a situation where you get Giannis. They don't have anybody that can do anything with Giannis. But you can't let Gary Trent Jr go get 37 because now you allow Giannis to bring somebody along with him. Giannis had seven assists. Remember the other. The other time he had like one or two assists. You see, when he gets you 36, 12, and he dishes out seven or more assists, you can have your handful because they can beat you now.
Joe
Yeah, I need Halliburton to be a little more aggressive for Indiana, though. 11 field goal attempts. You know, Dame from Lil Hobble, man, you gotta make him work on both ends of the floor. Outside of that, Miles Turner didn't get, I mean, one for nine. That hurt him. That's that. Yeah, for sure that hurt him. But, yeah, Giannis. Giannis gonna need somebody to step up, you know, pretty much every game you know, Giannis gonna give you 35, 40 points a night.
Savannah Guthrie
Yep.
Joe
Gary Trent Jr. Gonna be able to hold this up, or if they ain't gonna give us one of them, you know, virtual ro, man. Hey, hey, hey. He gonna need some help. But I like the bench, though. I like, you know, Bobby coming off with that. You know, he's pretty much fine tuned now because he's been absent for a while. He just got back with the team, so I feel like the Bucks can make this a series for sure.
Savannah Guthrie
Yeah, I agree. Gonna tell us a lot. They better get. They better. They better get game four. Cause if they don't get game four, they're not gonna go to Indian win.
Joe
Yeah, I got him. I got him getting game four. I got him.
Savannah Guthrie
Because Milwaukee got. Didn't get anything from Brook Lopez, as you mentioned. Dane was two or 12. One of eight from three. He gave you seven points. Yeah. Torian Prince, he only played three minutes. He gave you 10 points. Jericho Sims play four points. Kevin Porter Jr. 05. He gave you one point. Green gave you 12. But it was the. It was the big gun. It was Giannis at the top and Trent Jr. At the bottom. And really not much the sandwich in between, but they were able to build ability. Cause when I turned, when I started watching the game, Indy was up by 10. Yeah, yeah. I turned back and they were down by 10. I'm like, well, what the hell happened?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And I mean, y'all talking about this game. I was on. I was on the airplane.
Joe
Hey, you missed a good game, which was a good game. It was a good game. I don't know. Milwaukee needed this, bro. They needed some confidence because Indiana. Yeah, you know what I mean? They need confidence going into game four now and try to really make this a series. Going back to Indiana tied up. You know, like I say, hopefully Dame gets better, you know, day by day. And he's, you know, probably give him a little more offensively because, man, they. Yana's gonna definitely need him for sure.
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Dylan Brooks called Draymond Green a dirty player and defended his teammate Amen Thompson, who upended Jimmy Butler in Game 2, forcing him to leave the game due to injury. No, I think dirty player is Draymond giving him a little push as the regular basketball players do. And Jimmy's fighting in the air for a rebound and stuff happens. Amen's not a dirty player and he has nothing to do. And it has nothing to do with being a dirty player. Jimmy is questionable for game two. Joe, I know you saw the play. It seemed like Jimmy's going up for a ball. He got both hands on the ball. Somehow Avon Thompson loses his balance, submarines him and with nothing to brace.
Joe
Well, I know that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, that's that, that's, that's that good. But that's that good bone bruise.
Joe
They gonna take a minute for him to recover from that. Look, I don't think it was a dirty play. I think a Man Thompson was just playing hard, competing. He was trying to get in there and just cause and make a play and end up getting pushed, you know, kind of into like Jimmy Butler, which kind of took him out. And it's like, dang, it's like the littlest thing can happen in the playoffs, man, the swing of series, you know what I mean? And the warriors without Jimmy, man, it's going to be tough, man. It's going to be tough, you know, against that Rockets team. Hey, look, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a fight or a wrestling match throughout this series right here. I'm looking forward to it, actually. It's a lot of borderline stuff going on out there in the first couple games. Uncle Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Hey, they got that goddamn Draymond. Draymond. Funny boy. Funny man. Hey, he's scrappy. He's scrappy with it, too. He don't even care. He don't care who you are. He finna get it in every time. Yeah, I like that.
Savannah Guthrie
Look, and that's the thing about it, Joe, you keep saying, is that it's the finality of it, because there is no more tomorrow. It's not okay. We lost Orlando, we down to Miami, then we gonna hit Atlanta. And you know what I'm saying? We gonna go to Charlotte. Ain't none of that. Nah. You lose these four games and it's over. It's over. You see, your season's over and, you know, you go into Cancun or whatever you. Whatever you do before you start, you know, before you start back getting ready for the grind of some of the. Well, you're not. Guys not playing some league before you start the preseason games before you get back into the regular season come October. So guys are going to play hard. Guys are going to play extremely hard. And I don't really. I don't really have no problem with that.
Joe
No, me neither. I enjoy it, actually. But that is why it's been a lot of injuries pretty much, you know, throughout this postseason. Guys are competing at a high level, bro. You look at the. You know, maybe we'll get to it. The Memphis game. What happened to Ja? But go ahead.
Savannah Guthrie
Yeah. Jimmy is questionable for game three. Ja Morant will miss game four against the Thunder. Ja injured his hip after taking a hard fall during game three. Down 3, 0 in the series. Grizzlies face elimination without their best playmaker, their best player, and the 2024, 25 season could be over late in the second quarter on Thursday, Memphis was up by 27 when Scottie Pippen Jr dropped off a pass to Morant on the fast break. Lou Dort was chasing Pippen, slipped as he turned over and crashed into airborne Morant. A lot of people said it was dirty, and a lot of people say Dort slip. Joe, you saw this play. Accident, slippage, dirty.
Joe
I think he slipped, man. He was anticipating on going up for the block on Pippen, but he caught himself. Cause he, you know, caught the drop back to Ja and he just slipped, man. He slipped and, you know, Ja went up, obviously, and came down with a crash landing is very unfortunate because I had Memphis winning that game. They had total control of the game.
Savannah Guthrie
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They was up at that point by 27.
Joe
Hey, and the one thing that's very glaring to me, you know, I look at game one, Memphis was so. It was like they was flat, you know, they ain't really had. And they got blew out by 50 something points. Okay, cool. Game two. Joc come back, you see how aggressive he is. I need him shooting at least 25 shots. I don't care if he don't make but six or seven or eight of them. But the fact that he's that aggressive.
Savannah Guthrie
Put pressure on him.
Joe
It puts pressure on him to where you can open up and give bangs easy threes or easy, you know, kick out for threes. Or Jaren or big fella, jj, him and Eddie. You know, the way you can throw lives to those guys, they cannot stay in front of Jon. He has to know that, man. He has to know that, you know, he got to go into that AI mode to where he's just ultra aggressive, relentless and getting to the cuffs, putting the pressure on the referees to call or, you know, for him to make plays because he's that talented, man. And they'll be a better team, you know, the more aggressive he is. But this is going to be a game. They was going to win this game. Scottie Pippen Jr. Gave him that. That kick that he needed, and you can tell he was starting to find his rhythm. And, man, just an unfortunate, you know, incident, you know, throughout the game.
Savannah Guthrie
What'd you think, Ocho? Dirty play?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, he was falling. It wasn't dirty. Especially something like that. I mean, I think all. I think all NBA players have respect for each other. And I know it's a playoff. I know everybody's playing physical, but you can see it if you watch it again, especially if you watch it in slow motion, you can see it was an Accident and it's unfortunate. I would have liked. You know what they do. You know what? I don't like that NBA players do. It's similar. When a pitcher hits a batter with the ball, you see how he shows no emotion, no apologies, no nothing. He just. Just turns. He just. Very nonchalant. I wish he was a little bit more. You know what? I'm sorry. At least help him up. He just turned. Turned away and just.
Joe
And just walked away like playoff basketball, baby, we're not helping you up. We not doing none of that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I see. See that? That's what I mean. So. So when he, when he, when he, when. When he reacts like that, it makes it look as if, okay, I did it on purpose. And what.
Savannah Guthrie
Right.
Joe
I. Listen, we're not giving up. No layups, none of them flashy ducks. Now. We're going to try nothing cheap. Nothing cheap, but we ain't trying to actually just hurt you. You know what I mean?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, but.
Joe
Yeah, we're going to make. Yeah, you go. Yeah, yeah, it's good. You can't come through here. Just. Oh, laying.
Savannah Guthrie
Yeah, yeah. I.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
When you don't show no kind of remorse, especially like that, understanding you're undercutting by accident, you didn't mean to do it. But like. No, no eye contact.
Savannah Guthrie
No.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Just. Just. Nah, come on now.
Savannah Guthrie
Yeah. Hey, O.J. i tell you a story. We was in the locker room and one of the coaches spilled a drink in one of the guys locker, and he came back, man, who in the hell spilled the drink in my locker, man? The dude said, hey, look, D. Russ, I spilled the soda in your locker. I'm sorry. That. That's the end of that. Now what were you saying? Hey, I'm sorry. That's the end of that. I had to go back and forth and do all this other. Right. Because that was the plan. Hey, man, look, I did it. I'm sorry. That Internet now get you. Hey, y'all hip him up. He ain't my teammate. I ain't helping his ass up.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right, right, right, right.
Joe
I got it. I got it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I got it. I got it.
Savannah Guthrie
O. Joe. Joe. Warren Moon personally unretired the number one for Cam Ward. Pro Football hall of Famer Warren Moon, currently the only black quarterback in the Pro Football hall of Fame, gave up his number famous number one, gave his blessing and allowed Cam Ward to wear the jersey. Previously retired by the Titans. Recently said it would consider giving this blessing to Ward toward the digit. I'm thinking about it, said Moon when asked if he would allow Permission to give Ward the number to Ward. Should wound. Should Warren have felt pressure to do this? On joke.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I wouldn't say pressure, but Cam Ward is special. Cam Ward is a special player. He's obviously coming to the Titans. And why not continue that legacy? Why not continue that legacy that Warren Moon set, you know, when he was there, and allow Cam to carry that torch on, you know, wearing the number one as a new franchise quarterback, hopefully for the next decade or so. I like it. It's a dope move. It's a dope movie. I wonder if Cam even knew. You think Cam?
Joe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay. Okay. That would have been a dope surprise. But let me ask you this, Warren just.
Savannah Guthrie
I want to ask Joe. Joe, you got your number retired. Somebody come in and they want to wear that. They want to wear. Joe, they want to wear that. What you doing, Joe?
Joe
Yeah, I'm. I'm doing it if it's special, you know, I mean, he number one pick. He been wearing the number one. You know, shout out to OG for, you know, taking out the rafters. Letting. Let young boy take off with it. Yeah, I ain't. I mean, I don't got ego when it comes to that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on, hold on, uncle. And Joe, we ain't just giving anybody that number. You got to be that boy.
Savannah Guthrie
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And Cam Ward is that boy. So it's understandable. That's someone, you know, what majority number retired, but for him. Oh, yeah, I'm good. I relinquish that.
Savannah Guthrie
Absolutely. Joe, you had several numbers. Were you always seven, Joe?
Joe
Nah, man, I wore number two.
Savannah Guthrie
Cause what, you weren't seven in Phoenix?
Joe
Nah, I was. Look, I wore. I just. I just got seven when I got to Brooklyn. But coming up, like, through junior high, high school, and college, I wore number 24. So when I got to the pros, I got drafted by Boston. They ain't got no numbers. Yeah, every number, they got big numbers. 44, 55, 33. You can't get no single digit number. 24 out the question. Man, they got so many numbers retired. So, look, the only number they had that I could get was 31, so I rock with 31.
Savannah Guthrie
Yeah, you had Cornbread Maxwell jersey.
Joe
Yeah, that's my guy. Cornbread. Hey, look, I'm in the rafters out there in Boston, baby. 31. Look, when I get traded to Phoenix, I'm trying to get 24, but I'm playing with Tom Gugliata. Tom Guglada got 24, so I ain't even ask for that. Two fold. You can go and Keep it right. I'm just gonna roll with this two. So I've been rocking with number two all the way through Atlanta, and then when I got to Brooklyn, I just changed it up and went to seven.
Savannah Guthrie
Okay.
Joe
Yeah, okay.
Savannah Guthrie
I'm like, damn, Joe. Joe had about. Hey, they couldn't find Joe. They're like, what, Joe? 22, 7, 24, 31.
Ryan Seacrest
Right.
Joe
Hey, listen, man, I wanted one of them single digits in Boston, but I was like, when we get drafted, I'm like, okay, what number can I get? Can I get number 24? They start showing me all the numbers that was retired. I'm like, man, oh, no.
Savannah Guthrie
They got Sam Jones. Jones, Heinson, Russell Bird, Jenis Johnson. They got Bob Cousy. They got Bill Sharman.
Joe
They didn't sign.
Savannah Guthrie
I said, man, they got double zero retired. They got. What you call them, retired. They got Kevin McHale. You right.
Joe
Robert Parish.
Savannah Guthrie
Yeah, they got double zero. 32, 33. I think Dennis Johnson. I think DJ was three.
Joe
Yeah, he was.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, they got DJ.
Savannah Guthrie
Yeah, they got DJ retired. They got Sam Jones, Casey Jones, Ham Cowins.
Joe
So anytime y'all. Anytime y'all going to Boston arena, y'all look up in the raptor 31 up there, baby. That's like, so joke, baby. We sharing that thing. That's my man. You already know. That's my man, Cornbread.
Savannah Guthrie
Ah, man. Very, very touching but heartbreaking story. Derrick Harmon's mother, who had been on life support, sadly passed away after he arrived at the hospital and told her he had been drafted by the Steelers. Our thoughts and prayers go out to Derrick Harmon and his family and all those loved ones that were impacted by this tragic passing. Man, that's an unbelievable story. Think about it, Ocho. He arrives at the hospital. Mom, I don't know if you can hear me. I finally did it, but your baby has been drafted to the Steelers. And later that night.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That is. That's. That's an unbelievable story for. For mom to be able to hear that and understanding at that point, my job is done.
Savannah Guthrie
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I can transition. I've done all I can. All the sacrifices, all the. All the hurdles, the obstacles that I've had to make to ensure that you made it to this point. And now that you got drafted. I just needed to hear it. I just need to hear it now. I'm at peace.
Savannah Guthrie
That's it.
Joe
That's it.
Savannah Guthrie
I mean, hey, she wanted to hear that. And once she heard that, she could go rest peacefully. And he wanted to be able to deliver that message, to tell his Mom. Mom. You did it, man. Everything that, you know, what we went through and what you told me and how you reared me. Hey, go rest easy, mama. Go rest easy. Also, I want to send out a very heartfelt, hopefully he gets well soon. Elijah Arenas, Gilbert Arenas son was in a car accident. He's doing. It's being reported that he's doing much better. I sent Gil a text. He said he's gonna be okay, but that was so sad. I could not believe it, that this had happened. And, man, you know, we had Gil here, and Gil's a great guy. He's doing an unbelievable job on Gil Arenas with his. With his crew. Shout out, Gail. But I just want you to know that the Nightcap family and everybody over here and everybody that's in this chat want to send our thoughts and prayers to you and hopefully your family. And Elijah is doing a lot better now, and so we're praying for a speedy recovery so we can see what he gonna do at usc. So we don't know if he wanted none or maybe he got two, because, you know, this is a very serious injury. They put him in an induced coma, but hopefully he's resting comfortably. And, Gail, I know you by the side. I know you. You was worried, but, you know, you, You, You. You sent me that you thought everything was going to be okay. So I just wanted to send out our thoughts and prayers to you and your family. Elijah's speedy recovery.
Joe
Sure. I talked to him, too. He told me he didn't have no serious injuries, so.
Savannah Guthrie
Okay, let's do good. Roddy White has a pick for the Jags. If the Jags I drafted Shador, I call the Steelers and tell them I need three first rounders for Trevor Lawrence, and I start the franchise fresh with Brian Thomas, Travis Hunter, and Shador Sanders. Ocho, you like that?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I do, I do. I mean, listen. I mean, it's not going to happen, obviously. Three. One for Trevor Lawrence.
Savannah Guthrie
Oh, you will get at least two.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
Savannah Guthrie
You'll get at least two. And another high draft pick.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, but. Hey, that's that. Oh, that'd be Kenya. Match them two back together. And Duvall. No, no, absolutely.
Savannah Guthrie
I don't think. I don't. I don't think they will.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's a great. That's a great hypothetical.
Savannah Guthrie
I like it.
Joe
And that's.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But that stadium, that Duvall, man, Jacksonville gonna be rocking. Be rocking.
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We'Ll find out. But I, I agree with you. Oo I don't think that's going to happen. All right. Oo we're gonna get out of here on this one. This is your last, this is our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Q.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And A.
Savannah Guthrie
Lee Frazier said, what is going on with Sanders? Why are they doing him like this? Why must they treat black players like this? And can we change this for future players? Nope. Ocho, I get it, I get it, I get it. Because people look at Archie and Archie basically saying, my son is not playing in San Diego. I do not want my son in the afc. Now this is what's going to happen. And they see, you know, he ends up, they end up selecting, they trade him to the Giants. Chargers select him, trade him to the Giants. The Giants select Philip Rivers. They get another first round pick, yada, yada, yada. I get it, I get it. Yeah, it's just tough, it's just tough to see a guy that's rated this high and fall all the way out of the first three rounds. So I don't know what it is, I, I, I don't know what it is. All I know is that what I saw, what my told me. He had an unbelievable College career his two years. He was sensational at CU. 37 touchdowns, over 4,000 yards, 70 plus 70 what? 74% 70. Mid 70 or low 70 percentage completion percentage. Yeah, I don't know. No. But to answer your question, ain't nothing we can do because we're not in a position of selecting the players. JJ Carver said, my Saints passed over Sanders, Melro, Will Howard, Q Quinn, yours, Dylan Gabriel, just to draft the quarterback. Been injured every year like Carr is it April fool all month long. I'm surprised. Okay, they need a quarterback because of the injury. With Derek Carr, we don't know if he's going to be able to play, if it's going to be start the season, the middle of season or if he's going to be able to play. They don't select a quarterback in the first round, okay? But the second round they don't. And now you know like the third you take.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They will over. They will remind you at any given chance where they feel you're getting out of line.
Joe
Man, it's got to be more than that. Man, it's got to be something.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, no, no, ain't no more than that. Ain't no more. Trust me, ain't no more than that because there' There's. We're going to humble you. If you don't want to do it on your own, we going to do it for you. If you don't want to do it on your own, we will do it for you. That's all. That's, that's, that's it.
Savannah Guthrie
Samuel. Samuel Griffith. Should the tire Titans draft Shador and copy what Washington did with RG3 and Cousins? Could the 49ers be a good fit for Shador? No, because you're about to play Brock Purdy. Why would you pay a quarterback 200 plus million dollars and then draft the quarterback? No, I don't think Titans gonna do that because I think the Titans.
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Savannah Guthrie
Titans really like Cam. And Cam style is not like RG3. RG3 was a scrambling quarterback which leads to guys being injured.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
Savannah Guthrie
So you gotta weigh the options. Okay, Here's a guy that has a style that could potentially lead to him getting injured. So no, I don't think the Titans gonna do what Washington did. And no, I don't think the 49ers are a good fit for Shador. Frankie Rodriguez. Listen, this is why Shador hasn't been drafted number one. He's only been coached by his father. Teams don't know if he can adapt to new coaches. A coach at a gym on the hot seat knows Deion is on deck. What you think, Ocho?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I like that. I like that and I love in regards to where he goes if things aren't going well, especially as a team collectively, the rumors will start to swirl about prime at some point coming to the NFL to coach, to coach Shador. Now I understand, I think and also I think some teams are scared of the power and, and what they bring, you know, with, with that last name and that's just something you have to deal with there. There are other players that are just as polarizing. Maybe don't carry that much weight, you know, as, as a family unit, as one. But I mean it's, it's, it's scaring some of the teams. But still you understand what you get. You understand what you get as a player. You know, it's your door. So it's, it's confusing to me when you turn the film on and you watch the tape and I've watched the tape on all the other quarterbacks that have, that have gone before him and it's, it's mind boggling. And I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with any of the quarterbacks that have gotten drafted. You know, kudos to Them, you know, this is. Obviously you're living a childhood dream of yours, but I mean, like, come on, man.
Joe
Hold on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So.
Joe
So you think, you know, that's probably one of the reasons he's not getting drafted, because, you know, they think it. They think Dion coming in to replace him.
Savannah Guthrie
Well, I think the thing is, is that the only voice he's really heard is his father's voice. From the time he started playing football, his father's coached him every step of the way.
Joe
What's his. What about the eye test?
Savannah Guthrie
Oh, yeah. When I tell me he can play.
Joe
Certain things that with certain cats, they not going. They not gonna test well when it comes to agility and all that and strength training.
Savannah Guthrie
I agree.
Joe
But when you put them out there on the court or the field or what on the field, they know how to make plays, man. I think some of that stuff you can't account for, like just watching film ain't gonna do it. Or just going to watch him throw, that's not gonna show, you know, what he can do in between the lines, you know, when. When he get on the field. That's what I'm saying.
Savannah Guthrie
Ojo, Charlie Ward won the Heisman and didn't get drafted.
Joe
Do you remember?
Savannah Guthrie
You remember that, right, Ocho?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's right.
Savannah Guthrie
You remember that, right? That's right. Okay. Okay. I'm just making sure. I'm just making sure the champs understand. So it's not like now a lot of people will say, well, Charlie had told him that, you know, blah, blah, blah, was gonna go play in the NBA. NBA, yeah, but ain't nobody gonna take a flyer. Hey, Bo Jackson told Tampa that if you select me, I'm gonna go play baseball. They took him number one overall, so that you're not gonna tell us what we gonna. Not gonna do now. They ended up trading that pick to the. To the Raiders. But I'm just saying, Hugh, rest his soul, Hugh Culverhouse, who used to be the owner of Tampa Bay. Bo was the best player. He says, if you draft me, Tampa. Cause they had done, you know, ruined a lot of other players they had. Tampa was not very good. You select me, I'mma go play baseball. With the first pick, Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Vincent. Bo Jackson.
Joe
You got to be a bad boy, hey, to get selected first and then don't want to play for them like you. I'm just going to go over and play baseball. I ain't doing all that.
Savannah Guthrie
I ain't fooling with you. I ain't playing with you. C.J. got S.I.S. said Shannon, this can't be a race thing with your door. The Titans drafted Cam number one overall. Don't you know it's a personality thing. To be honest with you, cj, I don't know what it is. What we're trying to do is we're trying to say, hey, we threw the personality out. We threw. Does he have a preexisting condition? I mean, does he have off the field issues? Yeah. Yeah, we don't. I don't. Cj, I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't know. I haven't talked to Time. I'm sure at some point in time I'll get around and I'll sit down and I'll ask Time, Time, what you think happened, but I. I don't know.
Joe
Yeah, that's puzzling, bro.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Never happened ever in the history.
Savannah Guthrie
Dejuan Hyde said black confidence is scary to them. They hate that they can't break his confidence in himself. And they rich. And he's already rich. They can't hold money over him. Free black men is America's nightmare.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, I read it just. I read it earlier. I don't know if you heard what I read earlier, but. Hey.
Joe
Hey, can he go back to school?
Savannah Guthrie
Nope.
Joe
He got an agent even if you don't.
Savannah Guthrie
NFL don't play that. Once you declare for the draft, it's good night outreach.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's it. That's it.
Savannah Guthrie
JJ said Lakers gotta stop turning the ball over. I agree. Turn the ball over. Those young guys get out and easy. Get easy buckets on you. I agree. They definitely JJ need to stop turning that ball over. If LeBron knew how close the game out there, would have won. 38 points means nothing. If you think a chance. If he sink the end. Clutch last five minutes. He ghosted no fatigue book. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I mean, you're asking a 40 year old. I mean, how many 40 year, 40 year olds have ever made the playoffs, let alone score? 38.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
Savannah Guthrie
You're asking a man 41 minutes. 41 minutes. He gave you 10 rebounds. So he's really exerting himself because he got to get on the glass. He's going. I mean, he's what? He's 13 to 21 from the field, five and nine from the three point.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Line and he playing defense.
Joe
Just need a little help tonight. He just need a little more help.
Savannah Guthrie
Kendrick, Clemens, Unc. Can't say Lakers or five. Oh, no.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Dude.
Savannah Guthrie
2006.
Joe
Brad.
Savannah Guthrie
No, Lakers at five. See y'all. Oh, y'all want to pile On. We got something for you now. DS car washing detail, service Clippers winning it all till we fall. Don't give a. Don't give Kawhi the ball. Kawhi is playing unbelievable. Kawhi's playing unbelievable. He's healthy. He got that Mini going. And when he gets that Mini going, and then you combine that with his ability to shoot the three. He tough to deal with, man.
Joe
He tough to deal with. He gonna get you still. You got James Harden playing at a high level, too. You get both of them dudes going the way they've been playing the past few games. Past couple games.
Savannah Guthrie
And Zoobox give you a double double every night. Yeah.
Joe
And Zoo Box, they just got a bunch of guys chipping in, man, doing a little dirty work. And. And. And really, I mean, game three, it wasn't even no game. For real. They. They handled from start to finish pretty much, sir.
Savannah Guthrie
Case, my guys, is Doc gone after the season if the Buck loses? And will the Dolphins eventually get fed up and trade Tyreek if he keeps up with these trade antics? I don't know. Did he say something. Oh, did he say something today about being traded or what?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I didn't. I. I didn't hear anything. Everything's been draft coverage for me, so I didn't see anything. Any. Any current players have said.
Savannah Guthrie
Doc does he gets fired if the Bucks get. Get bounced in the first round?
Joe
Joe, I think I. Yeah, I think they gonna make some changes. If they lose in the first round, they gonna make some changes. I know Dame didn't hurt, but I think they probably gonna give up on that Giannis and Dame thing if they can't get past these paces.
Savannah Guthrie
Well, Dane really never wanted to go there anyway. Dane wanted to go to Miami.
Joe
Yeah. Yeah.
Savannah Guthrie
But Niami didn't want to give up the package that it was going to take in order for them to get Dane. You know Pat Riley. Pat Riley tried to. Man, Pat Riley always tried to strong arm somebody. Well, we gonna give you this. Nah, you're not gonna give us no, no, no, no. You're not gonna give us no pieces. This is what we want. Take it or leave it. You called us. We didn't call you. Yeah.
Joe
Hey, he gonna try to get what he can get. He trying to make it. He trying to make the deal right for himself, man, for the Heat. He ain't studying that.
Savannah Guthrie
Yeah. And I ain't trying to help the Heat. I am not trying to help the Heat be title contenders. So give me what I want or kick rocks.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right?
Savannah Guthrie
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Joe
Yes sir.
Savannah Guthrie
Nicole Weller say what you want, Cincinnati will always be home. When I fly home from college studying in Atlanta at Emory, I always get a unique, special feeling driving through the skyline because my brain knows I'm home. Who they?
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Who they?
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Kimday Beatles Ocho can't wait to see you in Charlotte. Let me be your hype man on the flight. You too quick. Debo can't catch you. Ocho and five Deebo can't see you. That's what he meant. See? My bad. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for tuning in. Y'all know me. I'm your favorite unc. The guy below me is my partner and the co host, number 85, bingo ring of fame Martoree, the Liberty City legend, Pro Bowler All Pro Chad Ochocinko Johnson and our basketball contributor talk all things basketball throughout the entirety of the playoffs. Arkansas native, Arkansas University. That's ice o Joe. Thank you guys. Please make sure you go hit that subscribe button. Please go make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. I want to thank you guys. We had a bunch. I think we had over 50,000 in the chat tonight. Thanks to you for showing up and showing out for us. Thank you for the support that you've given us from the start, all the way to the finish. To the finish. And I want to personally thank you for all the support that you've shown me. Make sure you check out Shay by La Portier. We do have it in stock now. If you can't find it, any city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. Please drink responsibly and stay safe while you're out there. Please check out my media company, Shay Shay Media on all of its platforms and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, everything has restocked. The link is pinned in the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone, they're gone. Tickets for Not Safe Work Tour are on sale. Our stops are bmore, Philly, Charlotte, LA, MIA, NYC, Chi Town, Chicago, Detroit. Finish this out. Tickets can be found@shayshaymedia.com tour that's shayshaymedia.com tour link is pinned in the chat. Our guest lineup is looking insane. You guys don't want to miss out. Please come out. Support your favorite unc and Ocho make sure you check us out. So, Joe Yoga. You know what, Ocho? I'm gonna try to get out there and see that. You know, I'm gonna have to make sure I get good warm. Taking a good old hot shower. Get these. Get these old limbs all warmed up. Cause, man, yeah, I'm gonna get y'all right, man.
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Okay. Okay.
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And y'all gonna leave. Okay. Glowing eyes gonna be bucked. You gonna be ready, baby. Yeah.
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The Timberwolves take a 21 lead over the Lakers 116, 104. LeBron James has 38, but it wasn't enough to overcome Jaden McDaniels 30. Ant Man's 29 and Julius Randall's 22 as they win 116 to 104 to take a 21 lead. And the Shador Sanders slides. He doesn't go in the first two days. Now let's see if he goes. Rounds four through seven. The Orlando Magics defeat the Boston Celtics 95 93. Thanks to Paulo Bankero and Franz Wagner, they win 95, 93. It's a 21 series. Boston are still in front and the Milwaukee Bucks get on the board. Now is 2:1 Indy, thanks to 37 from Giannis and 37 from Gary Trent Jr. As they win 117 to 101. That concludes Nightcap. I'm up. That's Ocho. That's ISO. Joe, we will see you tomorrow. Thank you for joining us, guys.
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Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 2 Summary
Release Date: April 26, 2025
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Episode Overview: In this engaging episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe, along with co-hosts Chad Ochocinco Johnson and Joe "Yoga," dives deep into the current NBA playoffs. The discussion centers around the Orlando Magic's victory over the Boston Celtics, the Milwaukee Bucks' triumph against the Indiana Pacers, and a heated debate sparked by Dillion Brooks labeling Draymond Green as a "dirty player." The trio analyzes game performances, player dynamics, injuries, and the emotional highs and lows of playoff basketball.
Magic's Victory Highlights: The Orlando Magic secured a narrow 95-93 win against the Boston Celtics, propelled by standout performances from Paulo Banchero and Franz Wagner.
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Analysis: Chad and Joe delve into the Celtics' reliance on three-point shooting and the physical playstyle of the Magic. They discuss the impact of injuries on Boston's lineup, particularly Jaylen Brown and Derrick White, and how Orlando's aggressive defense is challenging the Celtics' traditionally strong offensive strategies.
Bucks' Historic Performance: For the first time in team history, the Milwaukee Bucks had two players score 35 points or more in a single game.
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Analysis: The hosts dissect the Bucks' explosive offense, emphasizing Giannis's pivotal role and Gary Trent Jr.'s record-tying performance. They discuss the Pacers' struggles, particularly with key players like Damian Lillard's calf injury and the overall team performance metrics. The conversation highlights the strategic adjustments both teams may need as the series progresses.
Incident Breakdown: Dillion Brooks accused Draymond Green of being a "dirty player" following a contentious moment in the game. This sparked a lively debate among the hosts.
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Analysis: The debate centers around the fine line between aggressive play and unsportsmanlike conduct. The hosts weigh in on Draymond Green's reputation and his role in maintaining the Bucks' competitive edge, while also considering Brooks' perspective on player conduct and fairness.
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Analysis: Injuries play a significant role in the playoff narratives. The hosts analyze how losing critical players can shift the momentum of the series, forcing teams to rely on bench strength and adapt their playing styles to overcome these setbacks.
Listener Queries:
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Analysis: The Q&A segment allows listeners to engage directly with the hosts, bringing up pertinent issues such as draft picks, team management decisions, and the overall landscape of the NBA playoffs. The hosts provide insightful responses, drawing from their extensive knowledge and personal opinions.
Heartfelt Moments:
Derrick Harmon's Loss: Derrick Harmon shared the heartbreaking moment of his mother's passing shortly after being drafted by the Steelers. Shannon offers condolences and reflects on the emotional toll of such losses.
Elijah Arenas's Accident: Announcement of Elijah Arenas, Gilbert Arenas' son, being in a car accident. The hosts express their support and hope for his speedy recovery.
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Analysis: The episode doesn't shy away from the emotional aspects of athletes' lives, highlighting the personal struggles behind the public personas. The hosts emphasize empathy and solidarity, reinforcing the close-knit nature of the sports community.
Final Game Highlights:
Hosts' Farewell: Shannon wraps up the episode by thanking listeners, promoting Shay Shay Media's projects, and encouraging the audience to subscribe and stay connected.
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Analysis: The hosts provide succinct summaries of the night's key games, ensuring listeners are up-to-date with the latest playoff developments. They also use this time to promote their media ventures and express gratitude towards their audience for their continued support.
Conclusion: This episode of Club Shay Shay offers a comprehensive and insightful look into the NBA playoffs, blending sports analysis with personal narratives and listener engagement. Shannon Sharpe, along with Chad Ochocinco Johnson and Joe "Yoga," delivers a balanced mix of technical breakdowns, passionate debates, and heartfelt moments, making it a must-listen for sports enthusiasts seeking depth and entertainment.
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