Nightcap Hour 2: Malik Nabers TEARS ACL + Met Life TURF NEEDS TO GO + MVP Shaun Alexander's Top BAMA RBs & having 14 KIDS

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2 — Episode Summary

Episode: “Malik Nabers TEARS ACL + Met Life TURF NEEDS TO GO + MVP Shaun Alexander's Top BAMA RBs & having 14 KIDS”

Host: Shannon Sharpe | Air Date: September 30, 2025

Guests: Chad Ochocinco Johnson, Shaun Alexander

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This episode tackles three key threads:

1. The ongoing controversy over artificial turf in NFL stadiums, catalyzed by Malik Nabers’ season-ending ACL injury at MetLife Stadium.
2. A deep dive with former NFL MVP Shaun Alexander on the shifting landscape for running backs, his Hall of Fame candidacy, and the pantheon of Alabama RBs.
3. Lighthearted, insightful conversation about Alexander’s famously large family—with 14 children—and his life beyond football.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Turf Injuries & The MetLife Debate

(02:44 – 13:08)

• Malik Nabers ACL Injury: Shannon Sharpe opens with concern for Malik Nabers, who tore his ACL at MetLife Stadium—adding to a long list of major injuries at that venue. Sharpe rattles off names (Nick Bosa, Solomon Thomas, Aaron Rodgers, etc.), highlighting a disturbing trend.
  • Quote: “More than 90% of the players have expressed a preference for natural grass…and have continued to ask for it.” — Shannon Sharpe (03:19)
• NFLPA Advocacy: The NFL Players Association met with Giants ownership to voice concerns. Sharpe and Ocho point out the hypocrisy: NFL stadiums are installing natural grass for the FIFA World Cup, but not for football.
  • Quote: “Soccer is only played…on grass. Not just any grass—beautiful, very Bermuda cut.” — Chad Ochocinco (03:56)
• Economic and Logistical Barriers: The hosts discuss how maintaining real grass is costly and difficult, especially with venues hosting multiple sports, concerts, and events.
  • Sharpe: “You need something that can stand up, because it’s hard to pay for a stadium when you just use it half the year.” (05:00)
  • Ochocinco: “It’s too much work…it’s the kind of work that’s going to cost more.” (09:03)
• Player Perspectives: Ochocinco admits he preferred turf for quick cuts and consistent footing, but Sharpe remains a grass advocate (“I didn’t slip…I was a heavy planter…” 10:44).
• Summary: The NFL faces mounting pressure from players to prioritize safety over profits. Hosts doubt significant change is imminent, predicting owners will protect their bottom line over switching to grass.

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2. Shaun Alexander Joins: Football Legacy, MVPs, Hall of Fame Hopes

(16:53 – 27:45)

Alabama’s Win and the Running Back Tradition

• Alexander celebrates Alabama’s gritty win, loving how the game was decided “in the trenches” (17:50).
  • Quote: “Big boys making play…Ain’t gonna find a D-tackle that ain’t angry.” — Shaun Alexander (17:54)

Running Backs and the MVP Award

• Sharpe laments it’s been 13 years since a running back won the NFL MVP (Adrian Peterson, 2012).
• Alexander breaks down the formula: “To win [MVP], you gotta have all them touchdowns…amazing record…” (19:18)
• Sharpe: The league is “pass-happy”—50 TDs from QBs moves the MVP needle even more. O-line and system success also affect perceptions.

Top Current Backs

• Alexander’s faves: Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry, and Josh Jacobs—plus admiration for Taylor and Gibbs (20:53–22:00).

Nearly a Bengal: “What If” Stories

• Alexander shares he almost joined Ochocinco and T.J. Houshmandzadeh in Cincinnati, but the Redskins swooped in first (22:00).
  • Ochocinco: “We could have got us a nice little ring, man.” (22:36)

Hall of Fame Credentials

• Sharpe presses Alexander on his Hall of Fame case: 100+ TDs, MVP, All-Pro, led Seahawks to their first Super Bowl.
  • Alexander: “I think so…I try to keep it humble…I went in and set your team on fire…winning every game in Seattle, 100 touchdowns…it was so gaudy and fast…” (23:37–24:48)
• Discusses being a semi-finalist for Hall of Fame induction, and the “log jam” of RBs.
• Inspirational moment: Barry Sanders encouraged Alexander to “go get it” as he chased 100 rushing touchdowns (27:18).

Top 5 Alabama RBs

• Alexander’s evolving list (jump interrupted, see 31:31 for final take):
  1. Derrick Henry
  2. Mark Ingram
  3. Wilbur Jackson
  4. Bobby Humphrey
  • Honorable Mentions: Josh Jacobs, Damien Harris, Trent Richardson, Eddie Lacy (31:31–32:09)

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3. Life Beyond Football: Alexander’s Family & Philosophy

(32:24–44:09)

The 14-Kids Saga

• Sharpe stuns at the number: “I know you got like…four, five kids…You looked at me like, ‘Sean, I got 12.’” (32:24)
• Alexander shares he and his wife Valerie—his “first day in Seattle” love—now have 14 kids, with No. 14 on the way (34:23).
  • All children are with his wife; Alexander hails from a family of 9 siblings.
• On why so many?: “I wanted like five or six…But you been long past…” (34:38–34:47)
• Ochocinco chimes in with his own dad stats: “I have eight. And I want two more…I’m trying to go for twins.” (35:02–35:04)
• Alexander: “It was actually her idea…What if God just said I could have as many as I wanted?..Well, you know, let’s do it.” (35:34)
• Their oldest is 22, youngest is 2; pregnancy gap never more than ~3 years (36:01). No twins in the mix.
• Logistics: The Alexanders rely on a Tahoe, Suburban, and 15-passenger van; regular Costco, Whole Foods, and local supermarket runs (38:22).
• Sharpe on vacations: “You need a rack on top…like the Partridge Family…” (40:40)
• Family style: Kids are grouped by age for outfit coordination, each with their own personality and interests (41:02–42:50).

Reality TV?

• Alexander has declined reality TV offers to preserve his family’s authenticity and privacy, but is open to sports-education docuseries (42:50–44:09).

Alexander’s Passions & Post-Football Life

• Focus on mentorship and community: Partnership with “Staying Together” (a network of high-impact businesspeople), homeschooling, and launching the Harvest Covenant Homeschool & Football program (44:45–47:19).
• Influencing the next generation: Alexander mentors young athletes, oversees the “Sean Alexander Award” for best college freshmen.

Seahawks Super Bowl Reflections

• Candid memories: Alexander dreamed of Super Bowl since his sixth grade days. He helped transform Seahawks from NFL afterthoughts into legit contenders (47:19–49:46):

  • “My high school was ranked national, then Alabama, and then I got to Seattle…It was a shock to me to have guys not think they was going to not win every game…” (47:46)

• On legacy: “We talk about the era in which I played…You see the numbers…the touchdowns…the yards…and MVP…helped lead a team to the Super Bowl…He’s deserving of recognition.” — Shannon Sharpe (49:46)

• Alexander: Hall talk means a lot—“the final validation” for his career (50:53-50:56).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On turf vs. grass:
  • “If you’re trying to save money, I ain't trying to install grass and then have to install it every three weeks.” — Shannon Sharpe (07:07)
  • “I feel as much faster playing on that turf.” — Chad Ochocinco (10:02)
• On being a running back in a pass-happy league:
  • “Even if a running back does have 25 TDs, you like, damn, that quarterback…he did throw for 50 touchdowns, though.” — Shannon Sharpe (19:54)
• On Hall of Fame — career validation:
  • “You work hard, and when that thing's done, you want to look around and be like, ‘Oh yeah, we should be in this group…’” — Shaun Alexander (50:56)
• On having a huge family:
  • “We never say like we're done. We just like, all right, like let it ride…It was actually her idea.” — Shaun Alexander (36:21, 35:34)
• On family logistics:
  • “We have a Costco run, a local grocery store run, and a Whole Foods run every week.” — Sean Alexander (38:22)
• On reality TV:
  • “It seemed like they all got caught in the trying to perform, and I didn’t want to do that to my kids…” — Shaun Alexander (42:58)
• On parenting advice:
  • “I found the right woman that want to have kids, that want to be faithful, that we was going to just ride out. Ride or die.” — Shaun Alexander (35:16)

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Noteworthy Segment Timestamps

• MetLife and turf injuries: 02:44–13:08
• Alexander on Bama’s running back DNA, NFL MVP debate: 17:18–22:00
• Running back Hall of Fame/Legacy: 23:37–27:45 (inc. 100 TDs, Barry Sanders anecdote)
• Alexander’s Top 5 Bama RBs: 28:19; revisited and completed 31:31
• Family/14 Kids Discussion: 32:24–44:09
• Career after football, mentorship, legacy: 44:09–49:46
• Super Bowl and Hall case reflections: 47:19–50:56

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Tone and Language

• The episode mixes candid, playful locker-room banter (Sharpe and Ochocinco trading jabs) with deep, motivational reflections from Shaun Alexander.
• Alexander’s humility and faith, Ochocinco’s irreverence, and Sharpe’s mixture of wit and seriousness create a high-energy, authentic listening experience.

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Closing Thoughts

Shaun Alexander’s visit offers perspective, humor, and humble motivation for athletes and fans. The episode’s first act wrestles with the NFL’s safety vs. business priorities (through the lens of repeated injuries on turf), while much of the episode becomes a celebration—not just of football greatness, but of the triumphs, quirks, and logistics of a contemporary “super dad.”

Whether discussing locker room camaraderie, the elusive Hall of Fame, or running a household of 14, the episode showcases Alexander’s (and the hosts’) ability to inspire, entertain, and keep it real.

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For those who missed it:
You’ll gain practical insights into ongoing NFL safety debates, what it takes to be an MVP-caliber running back now, and how to build (and manage!) a loving, gigantic family—“just ride out, ride or die”—all held together by the unfakeable energy and warmth of Club Shay Shay.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho Malik neighbors towards ACL on Sunday at MetLife Stadium ending the season. Joining a growing list of players who've suffered major ACL Achilles injured in that stadium. Nick Bosa in 2020. Solomon Thomas in 2020. Jabril Peppers in 2021. Wandell Robinson in 2022. Sterling Shepard in 2022, Kyle Fuller in 2022, Aaron Rodgers in 23. Malik Neighbors in 2025. This morning, NFLPA interim executive director David White met with the Giants and raised concerns with playing the playing surface, per Jonathan Jones. David White pre preplanned visit to Giants today, according to the union sources. While he met with Giants players and John Maher and raised the issues surrounding MetLife Stadium's turf history, White also shared the union's best interests. Best wishes to Mara. With his recent cancer diagnosis announcement. More than 90% of the players have expressed a preference for natural grass and surveys and have continued to ask for it in light of stadiums installing grass for FIFA next year. OO now you see. OO yeah, you see what, what. OO what are they putting in all these stadiums that the, that the World cup is coming to? What are they putting in there? OO Tell the people at home.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, listen, you, you know, you know, especially an event of this magnitude, soccer is only played once you cross out the States is only played on grass. Not just any grass. On top of that beautiful, beautiful, very Bermuda cut.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bermuda.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bermuda.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That may be looking, be looking like Augusta national, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Unbelievable. Unbelievable. So I understand, I understand the players gripes obviously about the turf, about the grass. I mean, they, they prefer, and they much rather be playing on grass. I think for cold weather cities that don't have an enclosure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it's hard, it's hard to, it's hard.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now that, that would be, that would be an issue. So I remember when playing the Steelers having a messed up field for them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

November, late December. It was an advantage. It was the advantage of having to have a bad feel. So I mean, if, if.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And plus, the thing is, you know, the biggest problem.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

NFL games aren't the only thing that's played in that stadium.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Tear your grass up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have college games, you have concerts. So when Beyonce comes or you have motocross and you have all these other things that's played in, you need something that can stand up because it's hard to pay for a stadium when you just use it half the year. Yeah. So that stadium is getting used year round especially. Obviously not, you know, New York. You can't have me. They're probably not having outdoor events, but let's just say for the sake of argument, like Jerry's World. See, Jerry figured it out. Guess what they have there. OO everything. College football playoffs, boxing. He's trying to get the, the, the Oklahoma, Texas, the Red river rivalry. He's trying to get that there National Championship games are being played. They're play. They're doing other things. They're having concerts, they're having boxing events. They're having other things. So that's how you make money, by having these venues. And it gets hard. Real grass is hard to care for.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's really hard to care for. I mean, it is literally. I mean, we used to have real grass in Mile High with some synthetic sewn in, but, man, Ross was on it. I'm talking about. As a matter of fact, he used to work at the Broncos facility. They took him and he specially. Now he's in charge of that down there. He don't do the Bronco stuff. Man, they cutting that grass every day. They measure the temperature, how much water. Okay. We gave it to a. They cut the sprinklers on ocho for 10 minutes, as opposed to 15. They cut it. We cut it too low. It might burn. Oh, man, there's a science to that stuff.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, you know, look at, at the end of the day, I think they'll sit down, I think they'll come to some type of resolution that's like, okay, what is in the best interest? Because we're hurting the product, guys are getting injured. You're gonna have to convince, you're gonna have to be able to show them because, you know, the NFL gonna have their doctors, they see there isn't a rise. Oh, I'm trying to, I'm, oh, if you're trying to save money, I ain't trying to install grass and then have to install it every three weeks.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Basically. It's what you're gonna have to do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because you, I think Houston and, and the Cardinals have that roll like grass. You know what I'm saying, don't you? They roll them pallets out and then when it's up, they roll them, roll them back up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it's gonna, it's gonna be interesting to see what, what, what comes, what comes of this. I don't know what's going to come of this, but it just goes to show you that there is some concern from the PA Standpoint because these are some of some big names, Ocho. These ain't just, you know, willy nilly players. Right. And we'll see. Like you said, I, I, I just believe that the owners, like, man, look here, for the World cup to put the, to put us, you know, in the, the, the, the influx of money that's going to be brought into the, the community economy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you understand how big.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you, yeah, I do, yeah. Why you. Why you think everybody in America, everybody and their mama tried to bid on it? Hey, hell, I think Atlanta gotta. I think Atlanta got something going on there. The Mercedes. Mercedes Benz don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Atlanta, Miami, L.A. mexico.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kansas City.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Canada. Kansas City. God. Okay. Somewhere. It's a few more. It's a few more. I'm gonna be. I'm be at all of them. I'm gonna be at all of them. I'm excited.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. You going.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Remember I worked. Remember I worked with. I worked with Fox.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Guitar. I was out there for a whole month. So I'm doing the same thing again. I mean, I can't wait. I can't wait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't wait for what? So what you think. You think they go. You think they're gonna switch the. The turf or they're gonna leave it as is?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Probably leave it as is. Because it's too. It's too much work. It's too much work on their end. And. And it's. It's. It's the kind of work that's going to cost more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're trying to cut costs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, my point exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's gonna be interesting to see how this thing plays out because like I said, look, they're studying it now. I don't know how much they studied when every. I mean, because they're. Before this field turf, Ocho, you either had natural grass or you had artificial turf. There was no field turf. And then they like this field turf, okay? This field turf, it's more durable. You don't have to care for it like you do regular grass. It's. It's durable so you can play multiple events on it. You can have multiple things on it. Concerts. So you could have a concert. You could have a concert on Saturday night, and the thing will be on Friday night and it'll be ready on Sunday. You know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what I liked about the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Turf, though, with that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That it didn't matter if it was raining, it didn't matter if it was cold, it didn't matter if it was hot, it didn't matter if there was snow on the ground. I was still able to run full speed and stop on a dime because it's not given. It's not going nowhere. And I could. I could feel. I could feel every step. I like that. Not that I have any. Nothing wrong with grass, but I just like the fact that is obviously the shoes I wore on was like a track spike with no. No cushion, no sole, no nothing. It was just the shell of a shoe. And A shoelace. So just being able to feel. To me, I feel as much faster playing on that turf.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I like grass, but you. I mean, I like grass on Joe. But you know what? I didn't slip because I was a heavy planter, and I made sure, you know, I was always. I always. You know, a lot of times you start slipping. When you start, I'm like, bro, there's a reason why you only got four spikes in the back and you got seven, eight in the front. So put your damn weight on the front of your. On the ball of your feet, not on your heels. That's why you slipping like that should be common sense. Dum dum.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, and another reason I like it is I was. I was so unorthodox in some of the stuff I did. I could be running the out route, you know the out route. Your out route is on your seventh step, right? Yeah. With your outside foot, that out route and take an extra step because I can get the 12 so fast and do it. Run it outright off my left foot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So let me ask you a question. Did y' all 10 roll to 12 or you 12 roll to 14?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I would always go. I always go from. It's. You're supposed to roll from 10 to 12? Yeah, I would get the 12 because, you know, I can plant that one foot and just flip right away.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You plan on your inside foot?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, on my right foot. Yeah. Hey, listen, I'm talking about one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you playing on your right foot. If you're on the left side, you playing on your left foot. If you're on the right side, I.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Could do it in one motion. Because if you got a good db, I'm talking about a really good DB that says, you know what? I'm not moving. I'm not gonna sit. I'm gonna read the quarterback the first three steps, and I'm gonna get my eyes back on you and that roll. If you roll it from 10 to 12, he driving. If the ball ain't perfect, he's going the other way. So I'm not going to give you no chance. I'm getting the 12, and I'mma make sure you getting up out of there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you. Are you going. Are you going right down the middle, or you trying to pick a shoulder?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I'm staying right down the middle. I'm staying right down the middle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because if I weave, a good dude just gonna weave right with you, he's just going to reset everything. So I want to give you no indication. I want to just I'm a standing straight line, get you to open. If you open, boom, I'm snapping off and.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You want to play ball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right. Without me. You got to get him out of that backpedal. Look, now they'll call it if you run into the guy now, if you. He stand there, don't want to move, you running to him. They gonna call it now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whereas before, they wouldn't call that because he's like, he's entitled to that ground also. Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So, yes, that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was it. Well, he's entitled to that spot and. But, you know, I'm, I'm trying to. I'm trying to get him to open up also. Yeah, I'm trying to get him to open. But for the most part, the last thing they want to do, they don't want you to step on their toes. They don't want you to step on their toes because they know if you step on their toes, it's over for the nine ball.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's a rap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's over for the nine ball. Hey. And the last thing you want to do. Hey. And I you, hey. Oh, you know, you got to be. You come back like you did. I'm like, oh, he ain't coming. This nine ball. Look at it running. Hey, no, I ain't going deep. I was playing. My bad, my bad. I ain't mean to dig. I didn't mean to dig that hard to get you to open up, but I had to get you out of that back parallel. I had. I had to make you move because if he doesn't move on Joe, oh, he gonna. Oh, he gonna drive that driving on you. Oh, he driving that. And especially it all depends on your. How tight you are. Because he knows if you tight the eyeball, you want some. You want some space to run the out, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Uh huh.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, there's my guy. Here he is. University of Alabama Love 2005 MVP 2005 Offensive Player of the Year, three time Pro Bowler, All Pro. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, one of the best running backs in the game. Yeah, Alabama. He's extremely happy because his Crimson Tide beat the Bulldogs between the hedges. My guy, Sean Alexander. What up, bro?

[Sean Alexander]

What's up, fellas? How y' all doing, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm shocked. We had this conversation. We texted back and forth. You say, hey, hit me at halftime of the game. I hit you at halftime of the game. I said, I already know you in the bed. I'll talk to you next week, bro. So talk to me about the game on Saturday. What did you like about Alabama? Because they go to Florida State and they didn't look good. They. They had some cream puffs, but this was really their first test after that loss against Florida State. What did you like about what you saw from your team.

[Sean Alexander]

You know, at the end of the day, there is so much pressure to be great when you go to Alabama that you knew somebody was going to rise, you know, and so I love Ty Simpson. You know, we got our boy Miller to run it, but there's always a great Bama running back there. So he came back this week. And so I just like that they in the trenches, was just getting after it, you know what I mean? Like big boys making play. That's, that's Bama tradition. Like, right. You ain't gonna go find a D tackle that ain't angry. You ain't gonna find a defensive end, ain't gonna try to bust you in the mouth. You ain't gonna find some lineman trying to pancake every play. Like, you saw the boys put in work. And you know, that get, that gets all, all the old head running backs hype, you know what I mean? You just, you know, you love it. And, and you know, Georgia came, you know, Kirby comes from Bama, you know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sean Alexander]

With the school of Georgia, Cameron, he saw what that is. And so, you know, he's just trying to produce that, that we've been doing for a thousand years, you know what I'm saying?

[Chad Ochocinco]

So.

[Sean Alexander]

It was awesome.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. When you look at today's game, you, I mean, it's like you won the MVP, TD, won the MVP. Ladania won the MVP. The last running back to win the MVP was Adrian Peterson, and I think that was 2012. So it's been 13 years and it doesn't look like we're going to have an MVP running back this season. Do you believe, Sean we'll ever see another running back win the mvp?

[Sean Alexander]

You know, to, to win one, you got to have all them touchdowns, you know what I mean? So it's got to take touchdowns in the yards and in a, in an amazing record, you know, so when both Ladania and I wanted, we had, you know, I had 28, I think. Well, Dana came next year with 30 and we had great record. We was 13 and 3 and had 1800 yards, you know, I mean, so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Sean Alexander]

It takes all three of those things for a running back to get it. And you know, and the, and, and almost when you overshadow the quarterbacks, if the quarterback does anything with 13, 3 record, he almost gets the credit. And so that's, that's what it takes nowadays. It takes yards, touchdowns, and a great record.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's the thing. Ocho, before you go, is that what you mentioned? Because now with this past happy league, in the 17th game, you're going to have a guy throw for 5050 touchdowns. So even if a guy. If a running back does have 25 touchdowns, you like, damn, that quarterback, he. He did throw for 50 touchdowns, though, and he got 5,000 yards. So it's going to be really. It's gonna. Saquan would have needed to break Ed's record and then have about 24, 25 touchdowns. And then I think. I think being Sean, you. He would have had a realistic chance of winning the mvp. Other than that, now I think they're going to be content to give him. Give the running back offensive player of the year, but give that award to a quarterback. Go ahead.

[Sean Alexander]

Oh, it looks down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Sean, I know, I know the NFL now is in the past happy league. Obviously, we had some great backs during our time when we played, but who are, let's say one, two, maybe three backs. You enjoy watching today that you. That. That you like to look at, and you enjoy their running styles and the way they play.

[Sean Alexander]

Course Saquon is getting it done, and even his last year was phenomenal, but you could see it happening. Y' all know I'm still Bamba through and through. I try not to be biased about it, but Derek, I remember when he was in high school, I came in and I said. And Nick said, hey, hey, go check out this young kid that's coming in. He was in high school, bigger than all of us.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Fast, hungry.

[Sean Alexander]

I said, oh, dang. Yeah, yeah, dang. Here, man. And I, I still love Josh Jacobs, man. I think, like, he is just one of those guys that's like, gonna always be like, oh, oh, and Josh Jacobs, he gonna always seem like he the fourth, fifth, sixth best back, but he gets it done, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you know what? Gibbs, Gibbs. Jameer Gibbs. And you got Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor, he runs like an old school I power back. Hey, you remember Sean, when you was in the league? Hey, a fullback. Sean dot the I. LT dot the I. Jamal Lewis dot the I. Those guys dotted the I. Now they do a lot more set and things like that. You know, Lamar, you know, Baltimore has gotten back to that because they realize Derek Henry runs better out of the eye than in the offset.

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah, downhill down. If Derek coming downhill, it's just gonna. It's the Wes of the defense, you know what I mean? And then you got all the receivers gonna be wide open. You ain't never gonna see like a. A2 safety, but not with Derrick Henry, you know? And so, like, we Used to love that. You know, Chad, I was just thinking, you know, when I left Seattle, I almost got to come to Cincinnati to play with you and, and T.J. and what happened? The Redskins came in and I end up going there. But that y', all, y' all was, I felt y' all was leaning towards Cedric Benson, but it was gonna be me, you and, And TJ said he did come.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You should have came with that. But we could have got us a nice little ring, man.

[Sean Alexander]

Oh, for sure, for sure. You already know the defense popping. I said, oh, man, I'm gonna be there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They weren't popping no shot. You did the right thing. Go ahead and take the money, Sean. You gonna get, you gonna get. You go get. He gonna get beat up for nothing. Sean, you're one of 10 players in NFL history to have 100 rushing touchdown. Seven are in the Pro Football hall of Fame. The three that are not, Adrian Peterson, we know he's going to be in the hall of Fame. Derrick Henry and yourself. With that being said, the others that are retired and have those numbers are in the Pro Football hall of Fame. Do you believe, based on your resume, based on what you've done, an mvp, office player of the year, a pro, a multiple time Pro bowler, all pro, 100 plus touchdowns. Do you believe your resume warrants you getting a gold jacket?

[Sean Alexander]

Oh, I, I think so. I think so. I try to keep it as humble as possible, but I think that to be able to wear the gold jacket, you got to go in and set your team on fire. Y' all know one, no one going to Seattle. Supposed to go out there, eat some shrimp and then get a win and get out of there. And by the time we left, you had to fight for your life to even win a game in Seattle. I think we went two, three years winning every game in Seattle. You know, the 100 touchdowns, the, the, the touchdown record, the 1800 yards and back to back 20 touchdown seasons. All those things, you know, I did, I, I think it was like 90, 90 some touchdowns in like six years. Five, six years. You know, there was, it was so like gaudy and fast. This is all before. And folks, folks wouldn't even. There was no, like national tv. Like folks couldn't watch all the games like they got now. You know, I would go into stadiums and you know, they announced the song and, and, and the tailback, Sean Alexander, and people start cheering. And I leaned over to Max Strong, my fullback said, hey, why they cheering for me? He said, there's this thing called fantasy football. No you don't even play. I was like, oh, okay, all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You and LT so obviously you're up on your, of the 128 guys, you're. Now you made the list, original list. So I don't know if you've made it down to the final. So you, have you made it to the final 25 yet?

[Sean Alexander]

I think I made it to the 50 last year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sean Alexander]

Is that how it is? It goes to 120 to 50?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it go, it go. Yeah, it goes, it goes 50, then it goes 25 and then they will it down to 10 and now they take a max of five. Okay, they take a max of five. So I don't know who your presenters, I don't know who the. That, that would be your present up in Seattle. I don't, I don't really know. So have you gotten any feedback? So what if, what, what have some of the reporters. Have you talked to the guy that, that, that cover you. That, that, that would be your presenter that would go up and make the case for you? Have you talked to him? What if some of the reporters, some of the voters, what have they said?

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah, you know, Mike Sando was there, he was the young guy when I, when I was there coming in. And so he's, he's the, the guy that does all the reporting now. And he's always said, like, man, I think you're going to get in. He goes, it's just time. Like, I don't know how the work with the log jams and you know, I got to play. My big brother was Ricky Waters, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Sean Alexander]

So, and so like Ricky, like love me in like, you know, he showed me all the, the high flashing of him and fit with the Niners in Philly. He, he got to me. I said, I don't know that guy, that guy. I, I got a humble big brother that taught me all the game, you know. And so, and so, so, you know, so you got him, you got Fred Taylor. Those guys are, are great. They've done their thing, but they ain't got 100 touchdowns. You know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean that's a lot because like you said, there's only 10 players that have 100 Russian touch, that has 100 Russian touchdowns. That's a lot of touchdowns. And, and your resume says based on the, the criteria of the other guys that are in there now. I don't know. You know, obviously I think Walter Payton, I think Walter is one of those guys. LT Emmett, obviously Emmett has 165 Russian touchdowns. I think. LT has 145. Derrick Henry is way up there. I think Derrick Henry. And, and, and so, you know, there's.

[Sean Alexander]

Peterson, big boy from Redskins.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. John Riggins.

[Sean Alexander]

And you got. Yeah. Well, you know what made me chase after that goal was, Was Barry Sanders. He had 99.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had 99.

[Sean Alexander]

And that. That was out. Hey, I was going after, you know, and Barry. Barry's always been like an unc to me, you know, you unc. But Barry was always like uncle to me, you know, and he would come in and hug on me and be like, man, go get it. You know? So, so, so it was really sweet when I got that. I, I had like, one of them. One of them. One of them great moments, you know, and being. I talked to him, be like, yo, I passed you. And he was like, that's a well done. So you know, when you have Barry Sanders tell you, well done, man, it's a, It's a sweet moment.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bear is the only guy that I could honestly say Barry don't care about no stats. Barry. Barry. I was like, man, Barry. Hey, man, he's good. Yeah. He give you that smile at night. Let me ask you this. Give me your top five Alabama running backs. Now, you know, Bobby Humphrey, major Ogilvy, before your time, but, you know, you got, you. You got hit. Yeah. Yeah. So give me, Give me your top five.

[Sean Alexander]

Oh, man. Wilbur Jackson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sean Alexander]

He five. Gosh. These. These new boys, they were. They were amazing, man. So I got Bobby Humphrey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. B. Hump. I played with Hump Endeavor. That.

[Sean Alexander]

That's four. And so then I'm gonna go with. I mean, Bama's first Heisman is Mark Ingram.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Sean Alexander]

So he three. And then.

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[Sean Alexander]

Gosh, I think I would take. I think Derrick Henry's number one. So who. Who would go behind him? I'm go with. I kind of. I want to lean with Josh, but, but Damien Harris was solid.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They had.

[Sean Alexander]

They had a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They had a.

[Sean Alexander]

Remember Trey Richardson was solid.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they.

[Sean Alexander]

They had some, some killers when, when Nick won them first ones, man, they were Eddie Lacey, all them boys was just phenomenal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

College running backs, you know, Camaro transferred.

[Sean Alexander]

Out, showed it because he couldn't get on the field.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Think about that. Rest his soul. Boy, they were loaded. They had T.J. yelden. Yep.

[Sean Alexander]

Against LSU.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Bad day. They were. Y' all was loaded at tailback, tail back.

[Sean Alexander]

You, man, everybody was coming through.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I knew this because we had a conversation at the autograph signing in. In Virginia. Yeah. Two years ago. And I was at a. You know, we met each other say, hey, man, what's going on? How the family? How the family doing? And I say, hey, bro, I know how the family. I know you got like, you know, four or five kids. That's Last I heard, you looked at me like, Sean, I got 12. I said, hold on. I said, hold up, bro. I said, sean, for real. And at first I was like, from all. He say from all the same. We've been married. I think you say high school sweethearts or something. You told.

[Sean Alexander]

No, we met my first day in Seattle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Sean Alexander]

My first day in Seattle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

2001.

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah, 2000. I, I. Yeah, I got there. I got drafted.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you got there. 2000. You and Jamal was in that same draft class. Thomas Jones.

[Sean Alexander]

That's right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Okay. Okay.

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah. So me and Jamal was. Was there and they remember. And I. Everybody thought I was gonna go to New York because they picked Ron Dane.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dang.

[Sean Alexander]

Yes, I told them. I told them. I said I was gonna take the Ravens to the Super Bowl. I was going to take the. The Giant super bowl, year one. I knew they had defense, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sean Alexander]

And. And they picked Jamal and Rondane, and they both went to super bowl and played against each other. Man, I was hot. So, so, but, yeah, but I met my wife, Valerie, that, that I got there, came in town. Kendrick Burton was a D. D.N. at Bama.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sean Alexander]

And then went to Titans. They got traded to the Seahawks. I get there, he throws a barbecue, and he brings his girlfriend over. It's like, man, I need you to meet my girl. I didn't do it, Ocho. I didn't do it. I don't think it wasn't her, you know, she said, you need to meet my roommate. We've been together ever since.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. So do you come from a big family?

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah, yeah, my dad and I, we close, but he. He be like, sean, I'm so proud you didn't do it like your dad did, you know? You know them natty boys. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So.

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah, so my family is big. There's nine of us, so it's five boys and four girls, you know, a couple different baby mamas, but. But, yeah, but now we now pregnant with number 14, you know, just my wife and I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you. Did you always want a big family or just like it kind of just gotta. Just happened?

[Sean Alexander]

I. I wanted, like, five or six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, but you've been long, long past five or six, Sean.

[Sean Alexander]

Hey, you know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know?

[Sean Alexander]

You know? Oh, yo, don't be smiling now. You know what I'm saying?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, listen, I like it. I. I have. I have. I have eight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I have eight. And I want two more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm trying.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm trying to go for Twins. So listen, I'm enjoying the conversation. I like it. I didn't do things the traditional way in which you did. Yeah, do it. I make it work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I make it work.

[Sean Alexander]

Everybody's got to win. Everybody's got to win at the end. And so like, I, I found the right woman that want to have kids, that want to be faithful, that we was going to just ride out. Ride or die. You know what I mean? And so, and y' all know, marriage is hard, you know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Easy.

[Sean Alexander]

You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mean.

[Sean Alexander]

But, but, but, but we, we was like, man, like, let's see how. And so it was actually her idea that said, like, yeah, well, what if, what if God just said I could have as many as I wanted? And I was like, well, you know, let's do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you're like, I'm down. Yo, count your boy. Count your boy.

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah. Hey, I was in. Say less.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How, how old. So how old is the oldest and how young is the youngest?

[Sean Alexander]

Okay, so the oldest is 22. She's a senior in college.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sean Alexander]

And then the, the youngest is two. So this would be the longest gap. So by the time this baby is born, the next one will be three years old. So. So two and a half to, to 22.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Are you, are you, are you done?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you, are you done? Yes. Are you done?

[Sean Alexander]

We, we never, we never say like we're done. We just like, all right, like, let it ride, you know what I mean? I thought we was done because we didn't have no more kids, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Sean Alexander]

You know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because it wasn't like you weren't practicing. You just, hey, it just wasn't happening, you know, man, whatever, you know, you said the longest, the longest your wife has gone without pregnancy is this. So there's the, the largest gap is between the two year old now and what this one will be, which would be a three year gap. That's the longest gap. So you go from 22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 17, 15.

[Sean Alexander]

So they about, they're about a year and 11 year and 10 months. It was 22, 20, 18. That's the oldest. Three girls.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sean Alexander]

Then my son, 16 and 14. Those are my next two boys. And then we got 13 year old girl. So we had three and three, three and three years. So after five, then we had the 14, 13 and 11 year old turns 12 in octo. And then it's jetty. Jetty's 10. And then we had tours when we lost, she was 70 days old. So she would be about eight right now. So that's a half still. And then you got the, the bottom five, you know, so that's Torah, Taurus eight. So it'd be Eternity is seven, Hosanna's five, Hopi is three, and Judea is too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No twins. They're all just all single births.

[Sean Alexander]

Single burst.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's dope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This man here on one. I love it.

[Sean Alexander]

It's live, ain't it? If y' all came to our house, y' all wouldn't even recognize it. Yeah, because they all just flow like folks be like forgetting we got that many kids because everybody just kind of wrote everybody. They all slide together. It's, it's, it's beautiful. It's a lot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want to know the grocery bill. Give me the grocery bill. A week. How often do you go to Costco? I said every three, four days.

[Sean Alexander]

Oh, for sure, for sure. Yeah. So we, we have, we have a Costco run and then a local grocery store run and we have a Whole Foods run every week.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, what do y' all drive? Do y' all drive like a yellow school bus or you go. I'm just trying to figure out how you get, how you get all these kids around because you like the, like the oldest. So you got a 20 and a 22 and then you got like an 18 year old. So if the 18 year old graduates.

[Sean Alexander]

This year, she actually runs track at Liberty right now. So she was all American in that. So. So Chad, you know you had, you had a little neck and run, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, she's that University of Kentucky. She's a sophomore.

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So my, Mine's a freshman right now, so. So I remember us talking about, talking about your little one right there. So. So yeah, so. So the girls drove everybody everywhere. You know, they, they were, they awesome. You know what I mean? But now they gone and so now it's the boys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And man, you know, you got a couple. He got another year or two before he able to drive everybody.

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah, you know, so they, they and they, they boys, they about ball and gonna hang with them, you know, I mean, they ain't as nurturing as all the girls are, so. So we got to get them right. But, but yeah, like, so we have a Tahoe and a Suburban, and those are. And then we have a 15 passenger van. And so that's how, that's how we work because, you know, the oldest ones, the young ones don't even want to ride together, you know, so places. And so, so that's how it usually works.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want to know vacation, how you get? Because I. I remember seeing how you get, let's just say, because I know ain't no way all of y' all can go on vacation. So how do you go? Are you driving everywhere? Are you flying? How are you getting from point A to point B if you're going on vacation? Sean.

[Sean Alexander]

So. So what usually happens is, is we get in that 15 passenger.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sean Alexander]

Somewhere, and we go. And we'll stay for, like a week or two. And so we'll hit the be. Outer Banks is a big beach in North Carolina. We'll go down to Florida. So we'll take a bunch of stops. You know, we'll go see my family in Kentucky. When we first retired, we bought one of them. Them RVs. And that was nice. Had a little driver come in, and, you know, it take us all around, and we. We stopped and everywhere, and, you know, that was. That was sweet. But then. Then as they got older, we turned. We turned it to the 15 passenger, and we drove it that way. So that's usually how we go. Like, we'll. We'll play somewhere. We're gonna go somewhere, and we're gonna stop for. For seven to 15 days.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm just trying to figure out how you get all that. All that luggage. You need something with a. With a rack on the top. You need, like, a school. A yellow school bus. Like the Partridge family. You remember the Partridge family, for sure. How they had all the instruments on top. That's what you need for luggage.

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Our.

[Sean Alexander]

Our luggage game. My wife is like. She. Amazing how she do it. So the luggage game always got to be on. So what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We'll.

[Sean Alexander]

We'll pack as much as we can sometimes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We'll. We'll.

[Sean Alexander]

We'll send stuff there where we're gonna go for a while, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sean Alexander]

Be wonderful for us, because we just send stuff there, and then it's there when we get there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow. Let me ask you a question, because a lot of times I have family members that has six or six kids. I think six is the most they had. And they dress alike. Do you dress up? Do you dress the kids alike? The ones that's close in age, are they dressing alike or. Everybody has their own individual style and their own individual look.

[Sean Alexander]

Now we put them in sex. So, like. So, like, you know, the oldest three girls, they was all different, but they. They color codes would be nice. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Yeah.

[Sean Alexander]

The boys was always Bama Seahawks. You know, it was always like, that. So they. They got their sport.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sean Alexander]

The next middle girls, and they was all about them a little funky compared to the older girls. Older girls was primary problem. My mom had them dressed to the T, you know, I mean, okay, the little. The middle girls, they love. They love funky divas, you know, I mean, they involved type, you know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So.

[Sean Alexander]

So that's them. And then. And then Jedi died. He's the third and youngest son. His own man. He walking here. If he was up right now and I came out, he'd be like, you kind of big. You think you tough. Like, that's him, that's Jedi. He walk in, commanding the whole room, you know what I mean? And. And you took a picture with him, man. And I want to thank you still, man, because he don't. He don't let anybody know that they. That they cool to him and they're all right. So you did that to him. So I was like, man, you. I could tell you like, Shannon, he was like, yeah, yeah, I like Unc right there, that guy. And then. And then it's. Then it's the baby girls, and they're all just. They're just doll babies, man. They. They are. Because now everybody's played sports, right? They are more sporty than everybody else. And so. So it's pretty cool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have you ever been. Have you been approached by reality about doing reality television?

[Sean Alexander]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you said no?

[Sean Alexander]

I did, I did. You know, I didn't know. Well, first I just kind of saw all the families that go through it. It seemed like they all got caught in the trying to perform, and I didn't want to do that to my kids, you know. Okay. You know, so I. I figured if I had the right kind of situation, then we would do it, you know. And so, like, you know, I've been asked because, you know, we started that high school, the, the homeschool co op and football program, Harvest Covenant. This is the first year. So I've been asked to do that. And, and I've been thinking about that because that, that's more about the sport. And then you just can't help but get my family all in it. But they're not focal point. And so, so I, I've thought about it. I've been asked to do docu series about family and community. And, you know, they'd be like, sean, how. How you got, you know, the. These cats over here in your family and, you know, y' all know, you know, you know, and then you got the Academic people. And then you, you made all this with these business partners and your world. Like. And I was like, that's how I talk. That's how I thought I was tall heaven was going to be. Like, that's how I was taught. Like, it's got just this big awesome that everybody can be themselves, but just be awesome at being themselves. And so that's, that's our world. You know, we, we, we get, we get to pull everybody in to go be great.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I think it was the duggars that had 19 and counting. I don't know if you're gonna reach that number, but you're like 14 and counting.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Sean, what post career, outside of football, kids, family, marriage, what other things do you enjoy? What are you passionate about? You know, that, that you like to do outside the kids where you can get away from and have some of somewhat of a woosa moment.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he can't.

[Sean Alexander]

I. Shannon's favorite hobby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But no.

[Sean Alexander]

So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There you go.

[Sean Alexander]

I was always one of those people that like to inspire people to do something great. And so I've just tried to find the greatest partners that would motivate people to motivate people. So I got like this great partnership with this group called Staying Together. And it's like about 800 of some of the most successful businessmen and women in the country. And they like put their money and their efforts together to go like inspire the world. So I like partnering with them. I've always been like mentor man. I've had great men around me my whole life, so I always thought I could give that back. So, so, so I've always been a part of just pouring in. So like I. There's like, there's a handful of dudes that's some in the league, some never played in the league that I'm just like big bro to them, you know, and I've just watched them grow. And so, you know, my, you know, awesomely, I was, I was the, the freshman player of the year. So if you. The best player, you win the Heisman. You know, if you're the best freshman you in the country, you win the Sean Alexander Award. And so, so wow. I, I have. It's always been fun, like meeting with the guys and you know, remember Jaden Daniels when he was. Trevor Lawrence was the first winner of when it was named after me. And you know, watch these dudes at 18, 19 years old and watch them grow to become young men. And now, now, you know, Trevor's married with his first baby, you know, and Drake made Wanted a couple years ago. And Caleb Downs, you know, he won it as a freshman and then goes from Bama to Ohio State. And I'm on the inside with all that, walking him through and talking to his parents and this and that and making decisions. It's. It's an awesome and pleasure and it's an honor to be a part of helping, you know, mold the culture with football and. And seeing all the stuff do. So, like, those are all just part of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And.

[Sean Alexander]

And then, you know, when my son, you know, we traveled so much, so we homeschooled from Seattle to D.C. to play with the Redskins. And. And so we just kept on homeschooling them, and it worked for the girls, but that's how we started Harvest Covenant homeschool and. And. And football program because I needed a way to. To be able to let my boys play football and also still travel the way we do. And next, you know, now I got about 30 young men all in the area, and some of These boys are D1. I'm over here. Like, my wife kept on saying, like, you trying to be little, Dion? You trying to be little? Well, I'm watching. I got some kids that could play. And. And then my boys are. They're talented. You know, Chad, you need to come teach my oldest one to make sure you step on some toes. He's. He's off to a good start as a sophomore. And, you know, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool watching it all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sean, you had the experience of playing in the Super Bowl. What would that look moment like? Because as a kid, we grew up, we dreamed like, seeing it on television and not act like, man, is that a possibility? Now we go to college and we get an opportunity to go to the NFL. And then, you know, it happens and you're like, man, everybody in Kentucky, everybody at Alabama is going to be watching a kid that grew up dreaming of this moment. Now this dream is a reality. What was that moment like for you?

[Sean Alexander]

You know, it was sweet. I remember in sixth grade when the Bengals played, Boomer Sireson was the quarterback. The Icky shuffle was live. You know what I mean? That's what everybody was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

1988.

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah, man. I was in sixth grade. And I just remember, like, watching the camera show them because, you know, that's when cable was starting to come in through. Yeah, I remember them busing to the airport to go fly to the plane super bowl. And I just thought, man, that'd be sweet if I did that. And so I was having all those moments In Seattle, because out of all the places, you know, Seattle was the farthest away from Cincinnati, but then also the farthest way football, like, they. They was not a good program. And they brought Mike Homegren over there from Green Bay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Sean Alexander]

Then he drafted me, and I was like, man, let's go do this. You know, so. So not being in the cup was. Was. Was the only thing that was not gonna happen. You know what I mean? I was like, we gonna get there. And so, you know, that whole experience was awesome. Just seeing the city turn from like, fans was always rally, but to having this confident swag we championship football. It was awesome because I got. You know, my high school was ranked national, and then I go from there to Alabama, and then I got to Seattle. It was. It was a shock to me to have guys not think they was going to not win every game. So. So coming out of that to see what it is, and I don't remember when. When Pete Carroll gets there and Russell and Marshawn and they all. They all call me, hey. Hey, bro. This water over here warm. I'm like, yeah, y' all got one more step, and y' all got it, you know, so. So it was cool. And, you know, just watching Richard and. And. And. And Wagner and all them boys just coming that Legion of boom, watching them win, I just felt like I was like the John the Baptist of that group. I got to go bring that thing right up to the table, right? Tired, you know, I mean, I wish I'd have got mine, but it was cool to see, like, Seattle still has that winning, that winning culture, and I got to be a part of building that, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Congratulations on every thing, Sean. We're gonna wish you the best of luck. I. I definitely think with your numbers, you definitely want the consideration of getting into the hall of Fame, because in your era, when you played, you were one of the preeminent backs, and so I think it should be. They need to take a real hard look. You can't say, well, he wasn't. No, we talk about our era. Yeah, we talk. We're talking about the era in which I played, which was the 2000s. You see what. You see the numbers that I put up, the touchdowns that I put up, the yards that I put up, and MVP officer Player of the year, and I helped lead a team to the Super Bowl. So, yeah. Yeah, I think y' all need to. Y' all need to really look at Sean Alexander and. And. And. And give it a hard look and say, you know what? Excuse me. This man is Deserving of recognition.

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you for that. No, I. I agree, man. You know, everybody puts their work in and you don't want to make it. But I think, as Trail Davis has said to me, he's like, sean, you gotta let everybody know that that means something to you because it does. Like, you work here, you don't. You don't want to be like, oh, without this award, I can't. But you definitely want to be a part of this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. It's the final validation.

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Sean Alexander]

You work hard, and when that thing's done, you want to look around and be like, oh, yeah, no, we believe. Yeah, we should be in this group, you know, so. So, yeah, no, thank you for that. I'm. I'm with you. You know, I mean, we put in the work and. And it's been beautiful.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, congratulations on everything. Congratulations on number 14.

[Sean Alexander]

You can babysit you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I got you. Hey, let me ask you this. Have you got a name? You got a name? You. You and your wife have a name picked up. Valerie got a name picked out.

[Sean Alexander]

We only know if it's a boy or girl. We usually don't find out, so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, really?

[Sean Alexander]

She'll eventually just show up and be like, hey, I had to find out. So, yeah, so. So she'll. She'll crack before I will.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then you're hoping for a boy. You're hoping for a boy.

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah, yeah, man, you know, girls are some work now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, girls at work, especially when they hit that age, man, it's.

[Sean Alexander]

Yeah, it's. It's. Yeah, I love them. They beautiful. They wonderful, but they some work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They are some work. They also work. Congratulations on everything, man. Take care. Come back and stop by and see us again soon, Sean.

[Sean Alexander]

Oh, we will, man. We will.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Appreciate you, bro. Tide. Sean Alexander, ladies and gentlemen. 2005 MVP officer, player of the year, 100 plus touchdowns. Helped lead the Seahawks to their very first Super Bowl. An outstanding player. But he's a better man. And you listen to him talk. He's a man of faith. He's all about his family. Loves his wife, devoted, devout in his faith. And he's, like I said, he's a much. He's a. We know the type of player that he was, but he's a much better human being. Much better human being.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, I'm glad he came on here because I'm gonna be just like that footsteps of Sean Alexander. I'm going to be a family man. I'm going to get married. I'M going to have more kids. And then what I'm going to do is I'm going to go get all my kids now and take all those I have kids from to court because I want full custody so I can have me 14 kids, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you still got them, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You think I'll win?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you going too much. John Harbaugh caused a stir last night, Ocho, when he wouldn't commit on. When he wouldn't comment on whether Lamar would have stayed in the game if it was closer. Well, with a second chance to answer question today, Harbaugh said, no, there's no way he was going back in the game. The injury precluded it. There was no way he could go back in the game. And I know, and I know the way I know Lamar, if he could have gone back gone in the game, he would have been in the game. That's how Lamar is. I can assure you he would. He would not have been able to go back in under any circumstance.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, we. We expect these coaches, we expect players to be perfect after the game. And also that's why I like when coaches says, I need to look at the tape. I haven't talked to the trainers. You know, a lot of times on your. The trainers say, well, such and so, hey, Ocho got nicked. He'll be fine. You know, he just got a little swelling in his ankle. You know, his knee a little banged up. You know, Shannon's elbow is bothering such and such. Got a little shoulder, something like that. Go ahead, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I have a question. The game wasn't close, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, it was not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So why the media or anyone else just speculating. Well, if the game had been close, it wouldn't have been able to come back in. That doesn't matter. That's a hypothetical.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It wasn't closer, though. Yeah, it wasn't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It wasn't close enough. He was hurt. He's injured. Get evaluated is probably dayto day and we'll see how. How bad it is and if he can play next week. Who the Ravens got next week, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I don't know who the Ravens play the Texans.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Okay. See the Texans coming off a win. So the T. The Texans probably. Probably gonna. Oh, shoot. But Nico Collins probably gonna have a date.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, and you see Marlon Humphrey is done for the season. Tore a ligament in his foot. Madamique done for the season.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I saw Matabique. I saw that. I saw that. The D line. But I ain't no damn Marlin.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yup. Ocho after last night's tie in Dallas, Michael was asked if a tie between missing Dallas or being happy. He's a Packer. He said Brian Gudekins called Kenny Clark after the trade. Jerry Jones never called him. Michael said the same way he called me in his office. As a man, he couldn't tell me. As a man. Might let it go, Michael. You got to let it go, Michael.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, you know what? They got to stop asking the goddamn questions. He has. He has to stand his ground and.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tell those I'm a Green Bay Packer. How it came to be, why it came to be, when it came to be, what came of it. I'm in Green Bay, and I'm happy to be in Green Bay. I'm happy to look. I enjoy my four years in Dallas. I still have great friends. I'm a great dak cd. I got Trayvon. I got great guys over there. I wish them the best. But now I'm in Green Bay. My focus is Green Bay and the Packers. Yeah, that's how you got to do it. Because this make it seem like. Make it seem like he's like, damn the man. He couldn't even know. It's okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen. They start. They start to make it like the day. Days of our Lives. They make it like a goddamn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Yes. So I would just let. Look, yeah, I'm happy to be in Green Bay. It's amazing. Those fans are amazing. The team is open, welcomed me with open arm. The fans of open welcome me with open arms. My job is to help try to help Green Bay do something that I didn't do, I couldn't do when I was here in Dallas. That is get to and win a Super Bowl. That's my focus. So, guys, moving forward, I enjoy my time right here. I appreciate Jerry Jones making my dream come true, drafting me, and I love my time with the Cowboys. But now my focus is the Green Bay packers and helping them be the best team I can possibly be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah. I like that. I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, Ocho, now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Are we done? I'm getting ready to set up my other Mic.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kemper. Norwood Jr. Said, Ocho, the bingos are calling. They need a TD. Where is 85? Let's go, Broncos. Ain't no TD to be had. What? No TDS be had.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, Don't. Don't start that. You're not even. You're not even a Broncos fan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what Kemper is No Bronco fan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you know?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I just know. I can feel it. I can sense it. I can sense it. Y' all just trying to kick me while I'm down, that's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I wouldn't do that, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, y' all trying to kick me while I'm down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know one thing. I want y' all to keep the same energy. Everybody that was in the chat, that was laughing, everybody that's a Bronco fan, y' all make sure y' all keep that same energy next Sunday when y' all play Philly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, we'll talk about that next week. Right now, we talk about the Broncos, okay? How we stomp the mud in you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, you stomped the mud in the team that doesn't have a quarterback. That's nothing to be proud of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What about your defense?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What about your defense? Did y' all miss anybody on defense? Who y' all missing on defense?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, they hit we. They can only do so much. We. We ain't putting them no points.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all ain't do Nothing. Gave up 48 last. We gave up 28, did we?

[Chad Ochocinco]

It would have been nice if we had scored some points.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nobody thought y' all was gonna score. Triple X. I'm sanity said I don't want Ocho to say foot or ball. Also, pay Unc his money. Yeah, run me that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jason Zeldor said Ocho should never be allowed to say foot or ball. Ever. Hey, Ocho, since you love Russ so much, how about you convinced your Bengals to give my Giants a first round pick for him? Your QB, trash. Give my Giants a first round pick since you love him. Oo that ain't happen. J from AG Oo with the number one pick in the 2026 draft, the bingo Select. Y' all about to have the first overall pick.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And y' all getting carried away now. Y' all getting carried away. Okay. Y' all happy about your little win? It's all good. Cuz we gonna see who get the last laugh next week.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, why is this? I say hostility.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm not being hostile. I'm just saying they got all these jokes. All this he ha. It's funny now. We gonna see what's funny next week.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Babel Patel said, OO Q the Cam Ward meme. You're sorry, but Bengals, you know the A. Y' all put that. Run that up. Y' all go and put that up there when we talk about when we post something. Put that Cam Ward mean up there. Talking about the Bengals. Cause it's gonna. It's about to be just like the Adrian Broner man. I'm getting cooked. Cooked. Wolfhead fact says Zach Taylor needs to be brag. Bagging groceries. Ocho. Sorry. Don't say foot or ball all season. 1.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. Man. It's like. I can't even argue. I can't even argue the fact.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Brown vs Bengals battle for last in AFC North NFL matchup highlight said. What's up, Ocho? Patrick Sutan looked like a mix between Darrell revisit technician nandi asima wa long arms press coverage. Do you see that in P.S. also, can you tell us your matchup with Nandi or Reavers from your day? Did you go against Namdi?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cooked him. I cooked him. Only one person stopped me. That was Reavis. That was it. That was it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

People don't realize how long Reevis arms were.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

People look at him and look at his stature.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. And don't. They don't understand how strong he was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's strong as hell. Boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You get to be getting hands on you. It's a rap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ricky A say somebody get Ocho some Pepto Bismol. I know. He's sick. How them Bingles play. Forget how they play. How they look in play. The Lions about to put 50. Put a 50 ball on y'. All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know. I'm. I'm coming out the tunnel with them boys. I don't. I don't care. I don't care what Zach say. I don't. They might call. They might say I'm trespassing. You can't be here in the locker room. And I. I don't care. I'm gonna give him a pep talk. And for some reason.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? Trespassing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They might. I don't know. Oh. Because I'm gonna try to go. I'm gonna try to go in the locker room before the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. I mean there is a garbage and there's trash. Since it's both true.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

True and infamous. 73. Said Ocho. Since the Dolphins won but the Bengals lost. You can't say foot but not ball. You can say foot but not ball. That's not his team.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's where I'm from.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What that gotta do with anything?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because that's all I knew.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all I knew. Larry Zombie. I'm from Chicago. The Bears won. Now I get to cheer for the Bears.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You're not from Chicago.

[Sean Alexander]

Though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was born. I'm done with this man. Free tv. Said Ocho all that trash talking for the Bengals. Not trying to backpedal. Talking about shame. For the shame to chat. Nah, Ocho, you should have been humble. You should be ashamed, and he should.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I was humble.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you weren't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I was humble.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I was humble, but the Broncos humbled him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They ain't humbled me because I wasn't on the field.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chat. Y' all see him chat. Now, he wasn't on the field when.

[Chad Ochocinco]

None of that happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chat. You see him chat? You see what he did now? Now he wasn't on the field. Now all this time, he talking about his bangles. His bangles. His bangles. Now he wasn't on the field.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If I was on the field, wouldn't. None of that happened. I tell you that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It would have. Just like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

JJ said, Ocho, you were saying Jake Browning was gonna cook the Broncos last night?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I ain't say that.

[Sean Alexander]

I said.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I said that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. Does this mean you go to see it, Ocho Bull. Yep. That's what you got to eat on camera.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bull penis and onions. Hey, we will put. Hey, you talking about you want to be adventurous? You got all this stuff. That's the. That's what I got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho's outrageous eats.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, I'm. No, we need to do outdoor stuff this outdoors.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And guess what? I'm gonna have to have a picnic bench out there. And you go sit down there. Yeah, that's it. Chat y' all down. That's Ocho's adventures, where we go. We eat squirrel, we eat possum. We eat armadillo. We eat mountain oysters.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, I like everything you just said, but we got to catch him first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, ain't gonna catch him. They already the bull already. They don't already.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That ain't fun. I thought we was trying to kill.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I thought we were. The chance said, yes. Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what's gonna make the show.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. He eating bullsh long and onions. Players with ultra mentality by stats don't win championship for a reason. Ocho said he want his number, but he want to win, too. Aaron Jones, you celebrated like y' all gonna be coming January. We got you in Philly next week. Let's see how them Broncos ride.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, there you go. Talk that junk for me, young bull. I appreciate that. Hey, Fly, Eagles, fly. Fly, Eagles, fly. I don't even know the rest of the song.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you singing it? You ain't even from Philly.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because I'm going for Philly next week against y'. All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That. That My team, my team don't beat his. Now he want to go for. He want to root for somebody else. A wolf half fact said, hey, I like to know the year Ocho played for the Miami Dolphins. I just can't remember. 20, never.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I done played for the Dolphins since 1968, when I was born at Jackson Memorial Hospital at 3:08am My mother name was Paula Antoinette Johnson. Thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you ain't played for the Miami Dolphins. You played for the Bengals and the Patriots.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I played for the Dolphins, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

James Coleman said, Shannon putting on them gloves like O.J. come on, man, they still fit. David Jones said, give the chat that 90s mile high salute. Boy, they did a lot of that last on y' all.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That. Cause I wasn't on the field.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You couldn't stop it. Anthony Wright said, when you see the first drive from Sissy, I thought myself, okay, they might have a chance. But damn, that changed quickly.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I thought it was gonna be a game. Honestly, after that first drive, I say, okay, now, I can live with this. Now, honestly, I was. I was thinking. I was thinking with my heart, and I wasn't using logic. There's really no way we was going to win that game. I just had to. I had to have faith and say some of the things I said yesterday. I mean, without. Without your starting quarterback, you really don't have no chance. I'm. I'm just being honest. And, and, and, and I'm in defeat right now. I'm hurt. I've been crying all day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all ain't got your quarterback. Whoopi do shadow 800-880-810. At least my saints put up a fight this weekend. We have no receiver. 1. They did. They played harder than y' all did.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ocho. At least they got it. Never mind. I ain't gonna say none.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Patrick Rendon said, please let us know whenever grass would turn to cheese so we can start hustling crackers. Cause you being right about this. Bengals. Ale. I told him yes. Bengals got more Ls to come. You talking about who they? It's gonna be windy. Windy. I told you. They gonna win, lose three games in a row. Starting last week with Minnesota. They gonna lose two to us. And the Lions. Man, Knuckles and Sonic, they about to have about 300 yards on y'. All. They about to do to y' all what they did to the Ravens.

[Sean Alexander]

Watch.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's funny. Everybody want to kick you when you're down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ooh, Hutch might have about four sacks. Hutch gonna get by four Sacks.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Everybody want to kick you when you're down. All right, Caleb.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dennis said Burr's Christmas gift when he returns is an early trip to Cancun. Ocho bragging about the Dolphins like they. Like he been swiping right with no match. Both of your teams gonna miss the playoffs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We won today. I don't. Man, get. I don't care about no playoffs right now. I want to see my team compete and try, you know, and show fight, show pride. Play for, not play. If you're not playing for the team, play for the name on the back of your Jersey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shoot.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let's go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

10J said. Please wish my brother Edward a happy birthday. Edward. Happy birthday, bro. Hopefully you're doing something fun. Hopefully you're not a Bengals fan. Cause your birthday got ruined by them sorry rascals. Logan Wilson said, Ocho. Ocho's pep talk. One, two, three. Cancun. Let's go, guys. Dion, he'll say, can you guys call the play in the huddle, making Ocho and up the targets. And then do your best quarterback impression, hiking the ball with a hard, crisp, hard snap count cadence. What he want to call the ball? Well, if I'm gonna call, I'm call 2 Jet. Flank or drive. I got the basic cross ed, which is the flanker. He got the drive rod either going. We can tag him and put him on a comeback. Otherwise, he got a post. Now I'm getting. That's. I'm getting the ball. Ocho, what you play? X or Z?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, this me. What you mean when I play X to Z, this is me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All. All the. All the. What you call them? Get played the Z. I played with the Z. To was the Z. I was the X.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And now I got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gerald was the Z that you didn't play. You didn't. You didn't play. You didn't play no Z.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I played the X. Single side by myself. Mani and mono. I don't need no help. Lineup get open. I got it. What's next?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Quentin Mobley. Darren Waller had a nightcap effect tonight. He did. James Coleman. I've revolved around the sun 38 times, and I just learned today that New Jersey is a state. I hope it gets better for me. Damn. James Brian is at Amara Saint Brown blocks crazy and still gets his. Yep. Samuel Legrand. Jalen hurts numbers, gets mentioned all the time. He wins. But get clown for barely throwing for 100 yards or labeled a tush push. Yeah, but people say he's a top four or five quarterback. Not because of his stats. But because he wins. But look, at the end of the day, the only guy that wins really matter to is the quarterback. Or would they like you if they like you? If they don't, they'll throw wins in there. Drafrill said y' all think the Bengals should give Shador a shot. Nah. Cause what you call them ain't gonna. Ain't gonna trade him to the teams. Ain't really trading within the division unless they really think you some trash. Big Blue. Woo. Oh. Garrett Wilson hadn't made a playoff game and still got $32 million. You're being disingenuous. Garrett Wilson ain't winning. He's not winning. Do do understand. If you're winning and you're complaining, they're saying, what are you complaining about? Because the objective is to win. Ain't explained myself to that. Jerry D. Say, love the show, uncle no show. Can y' all give my guy Jaden Blackwell a shout out? He just won his third world championship in track and field at the Paralympics. He won gold in Tokyo last year as well. We absolutely can, Jaden. Congratulations on the gold medal, bro. His third world championship in track and field. Congratulations for the Paralympics. Won another gold medal in Tokyo last year and won it again this year. Congratulations, bro. Keep up the great work. Cal Simpson said. I said once again. I'll say it again. The Bible says, a man who don't work, don't eat. So at this point, the Ravens defense is a feed the children commercial. Cue the music. Oh, fuzz light. Year 12th. It seems like the Bengals and the Bronco play almost every year. When can we get a T? A Nightcap Bowl T shirt. Hey, yeah, we did play y'. All. We played y' all last year. I don't know if we played y' all the year before, but, hey, it was 1:1, you know? We play y' all again next year. We put foots in y'. All. Jason Zelda said his mouth is always trying to cash checks. His bingles can never write. They are. I told him, stop believing in your sorry bingles. Hey, leave me alone.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's all good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's all good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Keep that same energy next week.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yo. Oh, that's unnecessary, man.

[Sean Alexander]

It's unnecessary.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. As you watch the Denver Broncos Shellac Molly walk. Dog walk. The Cincinnati Bengals, by the score of 28. 3. They had less than 160 yards of total offense. Really wasn't that competitive of the ball game, but, hey, guess what? My team won. And if your team didn't win tonight. Foot and ball off the table for the rest of the week. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc, Shannon Sharp. There's my partner and co host and he played for the losing team once upon a time. Limited City's home bingo ring of fame honoree, the Pro Bowler All Pro, that's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit the subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support because thanks to you, Nightcap has become a phenomenon. Make sure you go check out Shave by laportier. If you can't find Shave by laportier in a city or a state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. The best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it. Ask anybody that's tried it. They'll vouch for it. And when you try it for yourself, you'll know what I've been saying has been true. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company platform. My media company on all of its platforms. That's Shay, Shin Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is also pinned in the chat. The Broncos beat the Bengals 28 to 3. The Dolphins beat the Giant, the Jets 27 to 21. The jets are now 04. And the Dolphins get off the snide. They're now 1 and 3. Thank you for joining us for Nightcap. I'm unk. He's Ocho. We're back on Wednesday. Peace.

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Who they.

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Foreign?

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