Nightcap - Hour 2: Marvin Sapp's $40K Donation Request, Ryan Coogler JoinsShannon

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Episode: Nightcap - Hour 2: Marvin Sapp's $40K Donation Request, Ryan Coogler Joins Shannon Release Date: April 6, 2025
Hosts: iHeartPodcasts, The Volume, and Shay Shay Media
Description: NFL legend Shannon Sharpe—3x Super Bowl champion and member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame—sits down with the biggest athletes, celebrities, and influencers to discuss their accomplishments, challenges, and everything in-between.

---

1. Introduction to the Episode (00:00 - 17:04)

The episode begins with various podcast promos and advertisements, featuring hosts like Brendan Patrick Hughes, Julie Stewart Banks, Nate Thompson, Mel Reid, Kyra K. Dixon, and others introducing their respective shows. These segments set the stage for a diverse range of topics but are not part of the main content of "Club Shay Shay."

2. Ryan Coogler's Appearance and Film Discussion (16:52 - 37:00)

Ryan Coogler, the acclaimed director known for Black Panther and Creed, joins Shannon Sharpe to discuss his latest project, "Sinners."

• Career Transition: Ryan shares his journey from playing football at Sacramento State to transitioning into filmmaking after a significant injury.
  [17:04] Ryan Coogler: "I played football, but when I got injured, I realized I needed to put my passion for filmmaking first."

• Inspiration for "Sinners": Ryan talks about his Uncle from Mississippi and how blues music influenced the creation of "Sinners." [20:45] Ryan Coogler: "Blues music is the most important contribution that America has made to global pop culture... It inspired the story and the emotional depth of the film."

• Filmmaking Process: He discusses the rapid development and production timeline of "Sinners," emphasizing the use of innovative camera technology. [22:41] Ryan Coogler: "This is the first time the IMAX camera has been combined with an Ultra Panavision lens."

• Collaborations and Casting: Ryan highlights his collaboration with actor Michael B. Jordan, praising his work ethic and chemistry on set. [31:02] Ryan Coogler: "Mike has a very amazing work ethic. He's always willing to go, always trying to push himself."

• Future Projects: Ryan expresses his interest in continuing to push boundaries with genre films while remaining open to diverse storytelling. [36:58] Ryan Coogler: "I'm definitely not closing the door on doing more genre work. It's too much fun."

Notable Quote:

Ryan Coogler [17:04]: "Football is fleeting, you know what I'm saying?"

3. Interaction Between Coogler and Hosts (37:00 - 53:09)

The conversation continues with Ryan sharing personal anecdotes and bonding with Shannon Sharpe and other hosts.

• Shared Experiences: Ryan reminisces about meeting Shannon at the Tribeca Film Festival and their mutual respect for each other's work. [29:40] Ryan Coogler: "We met at the Tribeca Film Festival. I went over there and shook your hand, bro."

• Influences and Mentors: He credits Spike Lee and John Singleton as his heroes and mentors, emphasizing the importance of versatility in filmmaking. [38:42] Ryan Coogler: "Spike is a big hero of mine, a mentor. Same with John Singleton."

• Superhero Influence: Ryan discusses his love for superheroes, particularly T'Challa (Black Panther), Wolverine, Magneto, and Rogue, and how they inspire his storytelling. [42:29] Ryan Coogler: "I'm gonna go T'Challa number one. And then I'm gonna go Magneto number three."

• Broadway and Theater: The conversation shifts to the influence of theater on film, with Ryan highlighting the differences and similarities between acting on stage and screen. [48:45] Ryan Coogler: "Stage is an actor's medium. They got nothing to hide. You just go up there."

4. Marvin Sapp's $40K Donation Request (53:09 - 62:05)

In a significant shift, the episode delves into Bishop Marvin Sapp's controversial request for a $40,000 donation, leading to a heated discussion among the hosts.

• Donation Request: Marvin Sapp demands $40K from his church congregation by locking the church doors until the amount is raised. [55:27] Mel Reid: "Marvin Sapp is receiving backlash. He locked the doors of the church until they received 40K in donations."

• Hosts' Reactions:

  • Mel Reid criticizes the move, highlighting the lack of biblical support for such actions. [57:10] Mel Reid: "He ain't put a number on it. He say, bring your tithe to the storehouse. I'll open up the windows of heaven."
  • J. Edgar Hoover emphasizes the importance of understanding the church's overhead but stands against coercive donation methods. [57:05] J. Edgar Hoover: "The Bible says God loves a cheerful giver. It doesn't tell you how much you got to give."

• Pastoral Practices: The hosts reminisce about traditional church offerings without fixed amounts, contrasting it with Marvin Sapp's approach. [58:43] J. Edgar Hoover: "He ain't gonna have a Rolls Royce. He ain't gonna have a better car than me."

• Ethical Concerns: They express concerns about the commercialization of salvation and the ethical implications of dictating donation amounts. [61:01] J. Edgar Hoover: "Salvation was free, but that's a good one. Ministers have found a way to charge for salvation."

Notable Quotes:

Mel Reid [57:10]: "But he ain't tell us what they preaching is prosperity. That's why I'm gonna go into the ministry."

J. Edgar Hoover [57:05]: "God loves a cheerful giver. It doesn't tell you how much you got to give."

5. Final Remarks and Call to Action (62:05 - End)

The episode wraps up with Shannon Sharpe urging listeners to support Ryan Coogler's film and condemning Marvin Sapp's donation tactics.

• Support for Coogler:
  Mel Reid: "Sinners arrives in theaters April 18. Ryan, thank you for giving us a little bit of your time. We all support you."

• Condemnation of Donation Request:
  Mel Reid: "He need to stop. You don't tell somebody what they should give. That's between them and their God."

• Closing Statements: The hosts emphasize the importance of ethical leadership within the church and encourage supportive actions for community members.

---

Conclusion

This episode of Club Shay Shay effectively balances a celebration of Ryan Coogler's impactful contributions to film with a critical examination of Marvin Sapp's controversial fundraising methods. Through engaging conversations and personal anecdotes, Shannon Sharpe and his guests provide listeners with both inspiration and thoughtful discourse on leadership and integrity within influential communities.

Key Insights:

• Career Transformation: Personal setbacks can lead to new and fulfilling career paths.
• Cultural Influence: Music and personal heritage significantly shape creative endeavors.
• Ethical Leadership: Transparency and ethical practices are crucial in positions of authority, whether in filmmaking or church leadership.
• Support Systems: Mentorship and collaborative relationships are vital for personal and professional growth.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Ryan Coogler [17:04]: "Football is fleeting, you know what I'm saying?"
• Mel Reid [57:10]: "But he ain't tell me what they preaching is prosperity."
• J. Edgar Hoover [57:05]: "God loves a cheerful giver. It doesn't tell you how much you got to give."

---

For more engaging discussions and insights, subscribe to Club Shay Shay on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or your preferred podcast platform.

Transcript

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell bent effort to sabotage a war.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

J. Edgar Hoover was furious.

[Ryan Coogler]

He was out of his mind and.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

He wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Listen to Divine intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

What's up everyone? Julius Ripps here, along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Nate Thompson]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Nate Thompson]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mel Reid]

This is Mel Reid, LPGA Tour winner and six time Ladies European Tour winner.

[Kyra K. Dixon]

And Kyra K. Dixon, NBC sports reporter and host.

[Mel Reid]

And we've got a new podcast, Quiet Please with Mel and Kira.

[Kyra K. Dixon]

We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture, some interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf their superpower and iheart.

[Mel Reid]

Wins Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Kyra K. Dixon]

Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Camila Ramon. And I'm Liz Ortiz. And our podcast Hasta Bajo is where sports, music and fitness collide and we cover it all. De Arriva Hasta. This season we sit down with history makers like the Sucar family who became the first Peruvians to win a Grammy.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

It was a very special moment for us. It's been 15 years for me in this career. Finally, things are starting to shift into a different level.

[Kyra K. Dixon]

Listen to Astavajo on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever. Get your podcasts Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Mel Reid]

The volume who's scoring big this NBA season? You are with all the new ways to get in on the action at DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NBA. From Monster Slams to dishing the rock to cleaning the glass, get behind your favorite player and prop bets you can make on DraftKings, home of the NBA player. Props. Ready to place your first bet? Try betting on something simple like picking how many points your favorite player will have. Go to DraftKings sportsbook app and make your pick first time. Here's something special for you. New Draft King customers can bet $5 and get 150 in bonus bets instantly. Take it to the rack with DraftKings sportsbook. Every point counts. Download the Draft King Sportsbook app. Use Code Money Moves that's Code Money Moves for new customers to get $150 in bonus when you bet just five bucks only on DraftKings, the crown is yours.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER or in West Virginia, visit 1-800GAMBLER.net In New York, call 877-8-HOPENY or text hopeny467-369. In Connecticut, help is available. For problem gambling. Call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org Please play responsibly on behalf of Boot Hill Casino and resort in Kansas, 21 and over. Age varies by jurisdiction. Void in Ontario one no sweat bet per as one bonus bet based on amount of initial losing bet. Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. See dkng.com promos for deposit, wagering and eligibility restrictions. Terms and responsible gaming resources all right, listen up taxpayers.

[Mel Reid]

It's time for what you all really tuned in to listen to me for financial advice. Tax season Boost Mobile wants you to turn your tax refund into six months of saving. When you buy six months on their best unlimited plans, Boost will give you another six months for free. That's like six times two divided by one. Carry the a really good deal. They told me I should have been a tax accountant. Well, would you trust me with your money? Well that's great news because I'm not done yet. Visit Boost Mobile store during tax season and enter to win up to $10,000 to double your refund. Or if you're really good at math and money stuff like me, pay off what you still owe. Okay, time to take my financial advisor hat off and put on my lawyer hat. Requires upfront payment, tax and fees. Extra terms and exclusion apply. Visit boostmobile.com for full offer terms and suites details. And now I get back to my boring old day job. Head over to your nearest Boost Mobile store and make the most out of your tax refund. Ocho, there's another debate going on Twitter. Do you brush your teeth before or after breakfast? Oo are you team before or after? After both. The hell you eat your you don't slept all night mouth funk e the food man hell no.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hold on so you going, wait a minute. You have that minty taste, that minty taste in your mouth. And then you go eat the food. And the food don't taste nothing like it did, cuz you got all the goddamn crest and Listerine and tooth. Absolutely not.

[Mel Reid]

I brush my teeth before, then I go back. Then after I eat, I go back upstairs, brush them again, I eat before I go to work out, I brush my teeth again, I come home, I eat, brush my teeth again, I lay down, take a nap, brush my teeth again.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hey. Ruins the taste of everything.

[Mel Reid]

Nah, hell no, man. My mouth be folk. You've been sleeping all night. And then you go, oh, no, I can't do that, Ocho.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

No, I ain't with teachers on. But once I'm finished, I'm in that thing, going to work on them boys.

[Mel Reid]

And last night, you don't know. You know. Hey, Booty. Oh, oh, Nick.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hey. No, I don't. I'm saved now. Them days over.

[Mel Reid]

No, no, no, I don't know.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Nah, nah. But them days, I don't do nothing like that no more, boy. Nothing like that.

[Mel Reid]

You do.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

No, no, I'm promising. I don't even go. I don't even go past the waist no more. I don't even go past. I don't go past.

[Mel Reid]

You put your tongue in the belly button too, don't you?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Huh?

[Mel Reid]

You put your tongue in the belly button too. Got all that lint in there.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah, I used to. I used to, used to. Yeah. Yeah. Them days long gone, man. I'm telling you, I'm a different. I'm a different. I'm a different man. I got saved. I told you. I told you. I got saved. I got saved. I got. I got baptized because the last one was wearing off. And I'm. I'm moving different this year. I'm walking different this year. My head is high this year, man.

[Mel Reid]

You wake up in Ocho. Everybody wake up in the morning. Breast smell like. Get back. You will go downstairs to eat.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yes, I'm going to. I'm going. I'm going downstairs. I'm gonna make my strawberry pop tarts. I'm gonna make my. My cream a wheat or my quick oats.

[Mel Reid]

I'm not even talking to nobody before I brush my teeth. I'm not even having a conversation.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

And you know what? You know what? So if you. You. If you have. If you have a partner, right? Let me ask you something.

[Mel Reid]

Yes.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

If you have a partner and y'all wake up in the morning, would you kiss him before brushing your Teeth.

[Mel Reid]

No.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

And you don't love her.

[Mel Reid]

I love her.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

No, you don't.

[Mel Reid]

I don't love that. Let me tell you, I had a situation, man. This. I was dating this woman. Y'all talk to me.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hold on, hold on. Let me get comfortable. Come on, come on. Because you be. You be having the stories. Come on.

[Mel Reid]

And you know, you know your boy. Hey, Ocho, you know your boy. Hey, two, three in the morning.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah.

[Mel Reid]

You know, she, you know, she touched with Chance. She touched. Ocho. I would have to go run brush my teeth.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

What? Oh, you can't. You can't mess up the momentum. What do we talk about?

[Mel Reid]

That's what she told me. Ocho. Good happen, Ocho. I had to break some habits, Ojo. I had to.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Wait in that moment, in that specific moment, during that time. Yeah, you had to go brush your teeth and ruin the momentum.

[Mel Reid]

Ruin that moment. If I didn't ruin it for her. Ain't ruined up for me. I was good. I came back and picked right up where I left off. He ruined that for me.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

I ain't got. Man, listen, man, I ain't got. Nah, you. You. You know. You know. You know when you got the right one.

[Mel Reid]

But I.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

But okay, you don't have to do all that.

[Mel Reid]

You know, I asked my, you know, killed my homeboy. They said, hell no. I'm just a real. I'm real, like self conscious like that, right? But you know, it's. I ain't brushing my teeth. Ain't nobody. It's. Hey.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Oh, that don't. Man, I'm telling you, if it's the right one, all that don't even matter. That's out the window. That's out the door. You're not even. You're not even subconsciously. You're not even thinking about, you know what? I didn't brush my teeth yet. Is. You know what? I love you. Let me kiss her. I'm not talking about tongue. And I'm too much. Just. Just actual. Hey, hey.

[Mel Reid]

But, hey, Ocho, did. I got sleep, then I got sleep.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

What you did, what you did.

[Mel Reid]

Bathroom?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah.

[Mel Reid]

Go brush the teeth. Right. I go lay that down for about 30 minutes.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Right?

[Mel Reid]

Then I do.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Okay. Okay. I like it. That's different. I couldn't do it, though.

[Mel Reid]

You couldn't do it on Joe. Nah. Don't just say when the. When the moon hit and that's it.

[Ryan Coogler]

Right.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Right then and there. Right then and there. No if and no if and buts about it. Right then and there. Wherever you touch me like my Grandma used to say, wherever you show out, that's when you get woe out. Wherever you touch me.

[Mel Reid]

Whatever.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Right? Right then and there.

[Mel Reid]

Okay, Ocho. Packers safety Xavier McKinney started discourse today when he tweeted, nepotism is always okay and justified. Unless it's a black man doing it, then it's a problem. You mofos are corrupt and brainwashed. And for all you black folks in the media, stop. We can't say that word, Ocho. But it's C o, o, N I n G, because they'll flag us. So that's a racial slur now. So I've had to learn the hard way.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Right, right, right.

[Mel Reid]

But y'all know it's the trash panda. He said, y'all stop trash pandering and being puppets.

[Ryan Coogler]

Right?

[Mel Reid]

You ain't tired yet. Damn. Ocho, you agree?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah. Come on. We talked about this before. We talked about this before. It's always a problem. It's always a problem when we do it. When we put those that are part of our family tree in positions that we're in a position of power and we allow them to ladder. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it happens all the time. It happens all the time with our brethren, but anytime we do it, it's always an issue, and it brought to the forefront on why we do it.

[Mel Reid]

Because when we put the sons on the coaching staff. Bill Belichick put his sons on the coaching staff. But listen, no problem.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

This has been going on for a very long time. It happens all the time. Not in just sports, but in the corporate world as well as. Well, it happens all the time.

[Mel Reid]

Hell, yes. But we're the only ones that not supposed to do it.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's frowned upon. It's frowned upon. It is. It is. And listen, we just call a spade a spade.

[Mel Reid]

A lot of times we be doing it, though. They don't. They don't really talk about no nepotism.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Right?

[Mel Reid]

They're like, hey, I'll get in position. I'm a. And we see it all the time. People get in position. They call their homeboys all the time. Qualifications don't matter. But we understand, Ocho. We're not allowed that liberty. We don't get that freedom. We ain't. We can't be putting no homeboys in there that ain't qualified. Now, if my homeboy qualified, we could do it in it. Oh, the qualifications.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hey, you got to be careful. You can't just hire your homeboy now and then, you know, homeboy get comfortable. Think they can get away with doing certain things. Not absolutely because you cool. No, it ain't about being cool now.

[Mel Reid]

No.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

I got. I got a business to run. Whatever it may be.

[Mel Reid]

We. We still. We still got work to do now, man. The Washington Wizards need their butt kicked. Ohio scored 162 points in real life. A video game against the wizards. That's embarrassing. 162. Now, there was once upon a time in the 80s, Ocho, it was customary, you see, 150, 140 games. I mean, I think the NBA record. Somebody scored. I think 183 to 181 was the final in triple overtime. But this.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

This was. This was a real game. And we not talking about the All Star break.

[Mel Reid]

No, we're not talking about the All Star game.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

A real game. You let somebody score 100, 162.

[Mel Reid]

162 to 109.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

I bet they must have shot. They must have shot threes the whole game.

[Mel Reid]

Nah, Washington was terrible. The whole game. Let's see. The woods are routing for the most points in NBA franchise history. At the most allowed, they had nine players and double figures. The. The Pacers did. Let's see. Pull up the box score right quick so we can get this, Ocho. And they did this on the road. They weren't even at home. Ah. And no player played more than 25 minutes.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

That's nasty.

[Mel Reid]

Halliburton had 29 and 25 minutes. Miles Turner had 17 and 21 minutes. N.E. smith had 11 and 19. Siakam had 13 and 23. And then you just. Guys just went to work.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

That's crazy.

[Mel Reid]

That's embarrassing.

[Ryan Coogler]

Somebody.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Somebody didn't care.

[Mel Reid]

They shot 64% from the floor, 57% from the three. They were 27 of 47, 17 to 19 from the floor. I mean, from the free throw line. Yeah. McKinney's, right? Yeah. Jordan blacked out. I mean, I wish my kids wanted to do something in here that I could like. Look, you start. You know, you ain't gotta. You ain't got to, you know, send no resume in. You know, the CEO, Tell them who you're, who you reference.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hey, listen, when you. When your kids come in, are they gonna want to do the work?

[Mel Reid]

That's what I'm saying.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Understanding how serious you are about Club Shakes. They know about Nightcap. They don't understand. Hey, this train got to keep rolling now. Yeah, I think you got. You got to be weary. You got to be weary sometimes. Your kids want.

[Mel Reid]

But I mean, look, they don't. They don't want that. I'm tough. I mean, I'm. I'm probably tougher on my kids than I would be somebody else. And everybody knows that that works with me. They know the expectation that I have. Right? What. What did Kayla say? I don't want to work for my daddy. Yell too much. Oh, I am. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And make no mistake, I'm tough on everybody. Hell if I'm tough on my damn self. Well, so what, I'm supposed to be easy on everybody else? I should be easier on myself, huh? Oh, Joe, we got a very special guest. The director, Black Panther, the director of Creed. He's a recipient of four NAACP Image Awards. He's been nominated for two Academy Awards, a Golden Globe, and the Grammy. He's the director. As I mentioned, Black Panther and Creed. He has a new movie that's coming out in April called Sitters. Here he is, Ryan Coogler. Ryan, how you doing, bro?

[Ryan Coogler]

I'm happy to be with y'all, bro.

[Mel Reid]

I'm happy that you're with us, man.

[Ryan Coogler]

I'm feeling good, bro. Like, big fans of y'all coming up. I used to play. I used to play football. Not. Not as well as y'all, but.

[Mel Reid]

But.

[Ryan Coogler]

But big, big fans of y'all there. And then. And then watching y'all transition, man, it's been. It's been beautiful, bro. Like, it. It's. It always warms my heart when I see. When I see athletes prolong that career. You know what I'm saying?

[Mel Reid]

Well, let me. Well, let me ask you this, Ryan. Okay? You want. You, like, you played football. Did you have professional or collegiate aspirations?

[Ryan Coogler]

Absolutely, bro. Yeah, Absolutely, bro. I used to play with Marshawn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We from. We from the same neighborhood, so. Okay. You know, I played him. Played against him in Pop Warner High School in college. Yeah, I played at Sacramento State.

[Mel Reid]

So.

[Ryan Coogler]

So, so, so, Osho, bro. We both played for the same coach, man. You remember coach Steve Mushagi?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hey, Cosmos.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, Cosmos gave me my scholarship at. At Sacramento State. Oh, yeah, look, that's me scoring a touchdown on. On Davis right there on UC Davis. Yeah.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Oh, that's live receiver, Ryan.

[Ryan Coogler]

I was. I played slot.

[Mel Reid]

I was talking to.

[Ryan Coogler]

Not like y'all, bro, but I paid for school. You know what I'm saying? I'll pay for it. You feel me?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah, they are gold. Yeah, that's dope, man. Hey, Coach. Coach Moose is good, man.

[Mel Reid]

So let me ask you this, okay? You go to college? You have a nice little college career. When did you Decide to say, you know, what film is gonna be the direction that I go in.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, bro, it's a great question. So I got my first scholarship to a school called St. Mary's College, and it's known as a basketball school. We used to have a football team. And then they dropped the program after my freshman year.

[Mel Reid]

Okay.

[Ryan Coogler]

I played quite a bit that season. Like, I was returning kicks, you know, I was playing receiver. I was playing a little bit of DB that year. And so I got some. Some more scholarship offers. But while I was there, it was a woman named Rosemary Graham who taught a creative writing class, and she read something I wrote, and she was like, hey, man, you should think about writing screenplays, you know, My girlfriend at the time, she's now my wife, she bought me a little software that I could write screenplays, but I fell in love with it, man. So by the time I transitioned to Sacramento State, I was doing it on the side, taking. Taking any classes and. And shooting. Shooting short films with my homies, you know? And then I. I applied to film school in 2007. It's crazy, bro, because. Because we was in. I was doing real well going into my senior year. And I got an injury doing 7 on 7 where a walk on a cow was trying to walk on. The team was over eager, and he. He caught me on a post and broke my zygomatic arch right here. So I was eight weeks off where I couldn't lift, I couldn't do anything. And during that time, I realized I need to put this application in for film school. Man, football is fleeting, you know what I'm saying? So I applied to USC film school, and I got accepted. I found out I got accepted, like, in the middle of the season. And right around that time, man, I started to find myself. My mind wondering when I'll be on the field thinking about something else. I'm thinking about a movie I want to make. I'm thinking about being on set. You know, that shit is dangerous when you're doing that. You have to be football. You gotta be all in. And I was kind of when I knew. You know what I mean? Right?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

That's dope, man. I want to talk. Listen. I'm a movie head. I enjoy films. I enjoy the arts and the crafts of it. I enjoy getting lost in character. I get very passionate when I talk about stuff like this. So I watched the trailer for Sinners, and to me, it seemed like a unique blend of supernatural action, mystery and psychological theory. How did you approach this genre in. In bending concept and what was it about this story that made you want to tell it, man?

[Ryan Coogler]

That's a beautiful question, man. So. So. So I had an uncle who was from Mississippi. Not from. But I had an uncle who's from Mississippi, and he was, like, the oldest member of my family, the oldest male member of my family, you know what I'm saying? So whenever I kicked it with him, he want to listen to all blues records and drink all kind of whiskey, you know what I'm saying? And. And he passed away while I was working on Creed in 2015, and I never really, really reckoned with. With his passion, you know what I'm saying? I would put blues records on to think about him, and that was how I got the idea finished, man. Like, you know, coming off of. Coming off of Black Panther was a real long movie that would counter for everyone. We dealt with a lot of tragedies, a lot of misfortune, dealing with the COVID situation. So for me, I wanted to make something that was quick, but also something that was very much very unique, very profound, you know what I'm saying? Like, in. And I wanted to. To. To play in a. In a genre where I can incorporate music, but I also wanted to make something that was a little bit. That was a little scary, man, because, you know, black folks, we like that. You know, I mean, we like. And talking at the screen, you know what I'm saying? Something that. Exactly, exactly. You know, I think. I think we have some incredible filmmakers that have capitalized on the medium, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, think of Jordan.

[Mel Reid]

Jordan.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, but.

[Mel Reid]

Get out.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, yeah, but Spice. Spice done his thing in that. In. In that genre, near the Costas and everything. In that genre. Yeah. You know, so I was fired up about it, bro. And. And, you know, truthfully, bro, like, it was a chance for me being a product of the great migration, you know what I'm saying? Give me a. Being born and raised on the west coast, right? Get back to the south and. And. And embrace that. You know what I'm saying? Embrace that part of my ancestry, you know what I mean? Like. Like, I had the. I had the most amazing time making this movie, bro.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

How long?

[Mel Reid]

How long?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

I'm just curious. How long does it take to make. Make a movie in general? I'm not. I don't mean this one in. In. In. In specifically, but I'm just saying, in general, what's the timetable?

[Ryan Coogler]

Like, that's a great question. So. So this one we made relatively quickly, but. But they. They. They Go from. It can go from anywhere from two to four years. You know, that's what we was able to make in one year. Yeah, yeah. It's essentially, bro, it's essentially like imagine, imagine a season, season and a half football, you know what I mean?

[Kyra K. Dixon]

I'm Camila Ramon, Peloton's first Spanish speaking cycling and tread instructor. I'm an athlete, entrepreneur, and almost most importantly, a Perrero enthusiast. And I'm Liz Ortiz, former pro soccer player and Olympian. And like, call me a Perrero enthusiast. Come on, who is it? Our podcast, Hasta Bajo is where sports music and fitness collide and we cover it all the arriba sit downs with real game changers in the sports world like Miami Dolphins CMO Priscilla Shumate, who is redefining what it means to be a Latina leader. It all changed when I had this guy come to me, he said to me, you know, you're not Latina enough. First of all, what is that? My mouth is wide open. Yeah. History makers like the Sucar family, who became the first Peruvians to win a Grammy.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

It was a very special moment for us. It's been 15 years for me in this career. Finally, things are starting to shift into a different level.

[Kyra K. Dixon]

Listen to Hasta ajo on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

I'm Israel Gutierrez and I'm hosting a new podcast, Dub Dynasty. The story of how the Golden State warriors have dominated the NBA for over a decade.

[Mel Reid]

The Golden State warriors once again are NBA champions.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

From the building of the core that included Klay Thompson and Draymond Green to one of the boldest coaching decisions in the history of the sport.

[Mel Reid]

I just felt like the biggest thing was to earn the trust of the.

[Ryan Coogler]

Players and let the players know that.

[Mel Reid]

We were here to try to help them take the next step, not tear anything down.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Today, the warriors dynasty remains alive in large part because of a scrawny 6 foot 2 hooper who everyone seems to.

[Ryan Coogler]

Love for what Steph has done for the game. He's certainly on that, like Mount Rushmore.

[Mel Reid]

For guys that have changed it, come.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Revisit this magical warriors ride. This is Dub Dynasty.

[Mel Reid]

The Dubs dynasty is still very much alive.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Listen to dub dynasty starting April 8th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Foreign.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

It'S Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League And I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say. And not just about hockey.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Believe me, he does. Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be, well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially line mates, Nate. We're the energy line.

[Nate Thompson]

We'll have plenty of folks join us, Current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?

[Nate Thompson]

I'm vibing, Julie. I'm ready to roll.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell bent effort to sabotage a world.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

J. Edgar Hoover was furious somebody violated the FBI and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees. The FBI went around to all their.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Neighbors and said to them, do you think these people are good Americans? It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century, and the God damnedest love story you've ever heard.

[Mel Reid]

I picked up the phone and my.

[Kyra K. Dixon]

Thought was, this is the most important.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Phone call I'll ever make in my life.

[Mel Reid]

I couldn't believe it.

[Kyra K. Dixon]

I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Listen to divine intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mel Reid]

It takes you six months to shoot. Six months to a year to shoot it, and then you have to edit it. It takes another six months to a year to edit it.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Correct?

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, man. And that's not including writing the script, because I write the script too. Right. Okay. Sometimes you gotta shop the movie around, you know what I'm saying? Right. You know, so I can tell you how long my movies all took. So this is my fifth movie that I wrote and directed.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Okay.

[Ryan Coogler]

Fruitville.

[Mel Reid]

It takes station.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Classic. Classic, man.

[Ryan Coogler]

Right. That's crazy. I said that, man. But it took me. It took me about a year to make that one. Okay. You know, Creed, we shot that we start. So Creed, we Cree was about a year and a half, you know, like, like and a half of that year was just trying to convince the loan that, that it was worth doing, you know what I mean?

[Mel Reid]

And.

[Ryan Coogler]

Right. Rightfully so, you know, I mean, he was, he was, he wanted to make sure that we was, we were serious about it and, and make sure it worked, it would work for him. And, and then we shot in January. We put the film out in like November. That was a fast one. Black Panther took about two years, started working on that in 2016, put it on 2018. Like, you know, Connor Farrell was like a, was like a four year movie, you know, because I wrote, I wrote one script, you know what I'm saying? Chadwick passed away. I know. You know, I didn't even know he was sick, so I had to rewrite that. You know, we got going the pandemic, slowed it down quite a bit. And then, you know, my, my lovely actress got injured, so we had to shut down for a little bit, you know what I mean? And then we put that one out. So, so I wanted to make something fast after that, after that, you know, four years on, on one movie. You feel me?

[Mel Reid]

All right.

[Ryan Coogler]

But I was blessed, man, to be able to make something that, that I'm so proud of, man. Like super, you know, really proud of this. I can't wait to show it to y' Y'all gonna dig it, man.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Listen, I'm, I, I know I'mma dig it when you watch the trailer for me. When it comes to anything that you do, whether you're an athlete, you have to be a special athlete that puts butts in the seats. When you're a comedian, you have to be a comedian that has stage presence to always keep the, the crowd engaged. When I watch the trailer and it, and it catches you. When it catches you right away, I don't know who did the ed and I don't know who did the trailer, but I'm telling you right away, it catches you and it keeps you and it holds you and then it's like it's an appetizer. But it ain't enough. It ain't enough because I want to, I want to see what's next. So now I can't wait to see it. And just, I, I'm very passionate, enthusiastic when it comes to movies, bro, I've been a fan of yours for a long time. All your work, everything you've done. That's why I can't shut up right now.

[Ryan Coogler]

I'm gonna tell you something crazy. Ocho for real, bro. I'm gonna tell you something crazy. We met before, bro. For real. We met at the. At the. At the Tribeca Film Festival. It was the first film festival I ever got into. Spike did a movie called Kobe doing work, and ESPN has the world premiere of it, bro. And I.

[Mel Reid]

And I. And I.

[Ryan Coogler]

And I saw you in there, and I went over there and shook your hand, bro. You know what I'm saying? Just on the stream, you know, just being a fan of what you do on the football field, I was always a student of the game, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, what y'all was doing, bro, over there in Cincinnati, man, when it was you and TJ and the boys, bro.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

You know what I'm saying? Hey, like, like, like. Like, just. Just how. Just. Just the. The. The. The precision of the route running, bro. The confidence, you know? You know what I'm saying? Both of y'all had that. Both of y'all had the mental game, too, bro. I remember. I remember. I remember Shannon, bro, when you used to be m.

[Mel Reid]

Study your movies, a lot of your movies, you got Michael B. Jordan now. Michael B. Jordan in this role. He plays a dual role. He's stacking because I'm like. I was like, hold on. That look like this. This look like Michael B. Jordan playing both of these. Both. I said, come on, now. Hold on. I had to rewind and look even close. I said, it is. So what is it about Mike that you love casting him in your movies? If I'm not mistaken, he was in Fruitvale. He was in Proof now, too.

[Ryan Coogler]

He happened in all of them. Even in all of them. Look, bro, like, we should find. It's chemistry, man. You know what I'm saying? It's a head coach and a quarterback. It's a quarterback and a receiver. You know, like. Like, you get. You develop a shorthand where. Where you save time, you know what I'm saying? You establish a tone for the rest. For the rest of the crew. And we're not the first ones to do it, man. Usually when you see. When you see filmmakers work, they usually had, like, Denzel. Yeah, but. Yeah, man. I mean, big time. Spike and Denzel. Tony Scott and Denzel.

[Mel Reid]

Yep.

[Ryan Coogler]

You know, Scorsese had a. Had a thing with De Niro, and then he rekindled it with Leo Ex. Exactly. You know, it's a. It's. It's helpful, man. And Mike has a. You know, Mike. Mike has a. Has a very amazing work ethic. You know what I'm saying, like, he's always willing to go, always trying to push himself. He doesn't want to rest on his laurels, you know, And I can rock with that, bro. So, you know, I'll put him in. I'll put him in every movie if I can. He'll always have a. He'll always have a role if I'm working, you know what I mean?

[Mel Reid]

And let me ask you this, right? How did you. How did you come up with the name Sinners? Why the name Sinners, man?

[Ryan Coogler]

That's a great question, bro. We. We found that late, man. Like, for a long time, the movie was just called Grilled Cheese. It was a working. It was working title. Yeah. Like. Like, so if you put up in Louis in Louisiana, you know, this past summer and say, hey, man, we're Grilled Cheese shooting at. They would have brought you. They would have brought you to our movie.

[Mel Reid]

Okay.

[Ryan Coogler]

You know, and the story behind that name was I've been cooking these long. These long drawing all crazy meals. I wanted to make some quick and fast. I knew it tastes good, you know what I'm saying? So that's how we came up with that. But for Sinners, you know, it was a collaboration between us in the studio, trying to figure out the right name for the movie. And. And we realized that. That. That. That line, you know, that. That word was said so many times throughout the script, you know, it deals with blues music and its relationship with the church, you know, Like, a lot of times the best blues singers will come from gospel, you know what I'm saying? You'll learn that a lot of times, like Daddy's was pastors, you know what I mean? And they singing. They singing music about drinking and bumping and grinding, and it's in conflict with how they was raised, you know? You know, so that. So that dynamic was one that we were really. That we were really, you know, once we realized like that, like. Like, it was like, oh, man, that was always a name. It should always been called that, you know?

[Mel Reid]

But this movie. But trust no one, because this movie has a lot to do with paranoia.

[Ryan Coogler]

Absolutely, bro. Like, I mean, look, it's. It's, you know, it's dealing with. It's dealing with black culture, you know what I'm saying? And a lot of folks don't know that. Like, that, you know, I would argue that blues music is the most important contribution that America has made to global pop culture, you know what I'm saying? Everything originated, everything comes from that. And when you do the research it really came from this one specific area of Mississippi, you know what I mean? Like, like, like in, in, in. In. At that time when, when Bulls was created, it was very hard. It was a very hard place to be black, you know what I'm saying?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

And people were trying to. People were trying to affirm that humanity, affirm that dignity at a time when, when, when, when it was, you know, when it was. When it was very difficult and people were trying to keep them separate. Right. You know what I mean? And for me, that experience kind of breeds a level of paranoia, you know what I mean? When you can't. When you can't be all after. After dark in certain towns or you gotta, you know, where you know it. Where everybody knows everybody. So when somebody new shows up, you know what I'm saying? Or somebody who's been gone a long time, you know, it's a little. It's a little bit, you know, you might look at them a certain way, you know, I mean, how did y'all come up, man? Did y'all come from places where everybody knew everybody? You could tell an outsider at the job.

[Mel Reid]

I'm from a small town. There was 3,500 people with two traffic lights. I mean, we pretty much. We pretty much knew everybody. And now obviously there were people that were. Would come back from New York or Chicago or Detroit that I wasn't familiar with, but I knew their family. And after a while, they end up staying. So we were cool with them. Also, you said something very interesting because everybody talks about the Mississippi Delta, the Delta blues.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yes, sir.

[Mel Reid]

This film deals with a lot of brotherhood, loyalty, fate.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yes, sir.

[Mel Reid]

You did a great job of working and putting all that together. And it came together from the trailer for what I saw. I'm gonna go. I haven't been to the movie. I hadn't been to the movie since the Pandemic. I'm gonna go check this one out.

[Ryan Coogler]

All right.

[Mel Reid]

To see how you tie this thing all together. Now, I saw the two minute trailer, but I want to see you tie this thing together for 90 minutes.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean, we, we. I'm proud of it, man. And like, like, look, another reason I think you're gonna. You gonna dig it, man, is your relationship with your brother Sterling, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, whenever I hear y'all, whenever I hear y'all talk, I gotta imagine in y'all neighborhood, y'all was known, you know what I mean? Like, like, you know, like in, in that. So these twins, you know, it's Stack and Smoke. Yeah, Smoke and Stack. It's an archetype, right. Like, every neighborhood I ever been in had a set of twins that everybody knew. That was kind of notorious, you know? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And we.

[Mel Reid]

That.

[Ryan Coogler]

We plan on that. That, you know, that. That relationship between the brothers, man, what makes them similar? What makes them different? No, I think Mike just did a beautiful job with it, man. I think you really gonna enjoy anybody who. Who got that type of relationship, you know what I'm saying? Got a big brother, got a little brother, you know, they're gonna really feel this movie, I think, on a different level.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

I like it. I got. I got one more question, man. After creating something like this, something that's so bold, so different, and, you know, you're pushing boundaries, you know, with most of your work and your craft. And again, I'm gonna tell you, I'm a harp on it because I've never had a chance to actually tell you. Now I do. I'm gonna make sure I let you know I'm a huge fan of everything you've done, and I'm really, really excited for this. But do you see yourself continue to push boundaries with more genre films or. Or just. I don't want to be too nosy, but what's next? We got another creed coming. If we. If we do got another creed coming, I want to shoot my shot real quick.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh, yeah.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

I just like to find a boss.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, we got. We got. We got another creek coming for sure. Oh, let me, let me, let me. Yeah, yeah. Mike's gonna direct that. So. So, yeah, like. Like, you know, absolutely, bro. Like, I think. I think we love to make something happen for you. And the other piece for me is like, you know, I want to work a long time, bro. Like, I want to. I wanna. I wanna. I wanna make all types of stuff, man. And I do love working in the genre space. This is my first. This is my first, like, movie with all horror elements. And Brock, I tell you, it's very addictive, you know what I'm saying? Like. Like the idea. The idea of doing something else that isn't this much fun, it kind of frightens me a little bit, man. Like, you know, so, so, so. But we'll see, man. We'll put this out to the world and. And stop people respond, and then we'll go from there. But I'm definitely not closing the door on doing more genre work. For sure, man. It was just too much fun. Ocho, for real.

[Mel Reid]

You know what, Ryan? When I look at it and I think about, like, you did Fruit Veil, you've done Creed, you've done Black Panther. Now you're in this genre. It's kind of like Spike. Cause Spike has kind of been all over the place. He's done Malcolm X, he's done Hurricane, he did Devil in Blue Dress, he's doing Harlem Blues, he's done Inside Man. He's done. I think Mano. I think he did Mano. No, that was original.

[Ryan Coogler]

He did 25th hour.

[Mel Reid]

25Th hour, yeah. So he's kind of been. Is that kind of like. Look, I don't want y'all to hold me in there and say, oh, he only does. If this is a comedy, this is Ryan. If it's something to do with Marvel or Black Panther, this gotta be Ryan. You want to be, like, multifaceted. You don't want to be tied down or pigeonhole or typecast for any particular type of movie, right?

[Ryan Coogler]

That's absolutely correct, man. Spike is a big, big hero of mine, man. A mentor, you know, Same with. Same with John Singleton, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, big, Big hero, mentor. And then stepping outside of our, you know, our community. Right? I love filmmakers like Steven Soderbergh, you know what I'm saying? Where you never know. You never know what they're going to do next, right? But you. But you got to. You got to. You know, it's going to be quality, you know? You know what I'm saying? Like. Like. Like if. And I do definitely want to continue to push myself, but also push the medium forward, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's. It's a blessing to be able to. To. To. To work in a space where you get to work on things that are fresh, work on things that haven't been done before. You know, for instance, with this film, you know, it's the first time that that IMAX camera has been combined with a. With a ultra Panavision lens. So it's the same. It's the same camera work, same camera package. I was used on Quentin Tarantino's film the Hateful Eight. Oh, that was great. Yeah. Yeah. You combine that with the traditional IMAX film camera. First time ever. You know what I'm saying? So. So getting. Getting a chance to break new ground and do that with. With, you know, with people of color on the screen. Right? You know what I mean? In a story set in the Mississippi Delta, it's a great honor to be able to do something like that, you know? You know, What? I mean, and if. And it helps me to be motivated. It helps me to stay sharp, you know, I'm getting to work with people who I've been working with for a long time, and it's just amazing.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

That's dope.

[Mel Reid]

I don't want to be too presumptuous of this, but I saw something, and it seems like I forget the two brothers, but it's two brothers, Ocho, and one of them might be cast. I want to throw my hat in for T'Challa. You know, I want to throw my hat in. I'm just gonna say.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Oh, man, come on. What you doing?

[Mel Reid]

I want to throw my hat into this.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, man, get it in there. Hey, hey, man, we can talk about it, man.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hey, how you gonna. How you gonna take Mystilo? Can I get my role first? And Creed?

[Mel Reid]

Okay, okay. Oh, you. Okay. You want to be one of the fighters that Creed fight?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah. Okay.

[Mel Reid]

Okay.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Okay.

[Mel Reid]

Yeah.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

I got an extensive background in combat sports, so it would be perfect to be able to transition. So I ain't really got to play no character. I could just be myself.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, popping that thing as Ocho, huh? I feel.

[Mel Reid]

Yeah, art is hard. That all is Hodge.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Oh.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh, all is hard. Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Mel Reid]

I mean, hey, they had him. They had him already in the uniform. I was like, o straight. Yeah, he definitely could. He could Definitely pass for T'Challa. Yeah, he could.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, all this shot. Big shouts out to all this, man, he incredible. You know, he made watches, too, bro.

[Mel Reid]

Does he?

[Ryan Coogler]

But straight up, knowing how to make watches, bro.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Right?

[Ryan Coogler]

Wow. Like. Like a genius, bro. You know what I'm saying?

[Mel Reid]

Ryan, were you. Were you as a kid, Were you in the comics? Were you a superhero fan?

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, big time. I had an older cousin. You know, I'm the oldest of three boys, so I didn't have no big brothers. I always been looking for one. You know what I'm saying? I had an other cousin who was. Who was. Who was seven years older than me, who was a big head, and I got into him just because he. I thought he was cool. You feel me? So I. So that's when I started reading them. But I. I did. I did always read them. Like, I took a break from a.

[Mel Reid]

Little bit when I.

[Ryan Coogler]

When I got serious about sports, right? We used to watch the cartoons, what have you. But it was. You know, it was. It was all school and ball for, like, you know, from. I would say from, like, from, like, eighth grade, like, ninth grade maybe, to my senior year of college. And when I went back to film school, I got back into him. You know what I mean?

[Mel Reid]

Do you collect them, man?

[Ryan Coogler]

That's a great question, bro. I, I. Honestly, I, I, I do. I do, man. Like, not. But not. But not actively, bro. Like, like, what happens now is it's like I'll go to Comic Con for work, and I. And I'll go. They got. They got a. They got basically a floor. You know, we can. Where you can go. Where you can go buy anything. Yeah, I'll go in there and hit the floor and copy one or something, you know? I mean. But it's been a while since I've been in the comic book store, man. I'm not. I'm not gonna hold you.

[Mel Reid]

Give me your top five superheroes.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh, all right, all right. I'm gonna go fast. I'm not gonna overthink it, but go. I'm gonna go to. I'm gonna go t'challa, number one.

[Mel Reid]

Okay.

[Ryan Coogler]

And then I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Wolverine.

[Mel Reid]

Okay, cool.

[Ryan Coogler]

Can I put villains in it?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

You can, yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

All right, I got. I got. I got Magneto number three. Magneto. Yeah, I got Magneto number three. I got. All right, I'm gonna go. I'm go. I'm gonna go deep cut. I'm gonna go deep cut. Ror. Search from.

[Mel Reid]

From.

[Ryan Coogler]

Watch me. Okay?

[Mel Reid]

I know.

[Ryan Coogler]

Raw Shark. Ro. Shark. Watch me. And then. And then I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go rogue.

[Mel Reid]

Okay.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, yeah. Rogue is. Guys, bro, like, like the, The. The. The, you know. You know. You know. You know, take our glove off. Touch, touch. You take your powers, knock you out. I mean, that's, That's. Yeah, that's pretty. That's pretty solid.

[Mel Reid]

I'm surprised you really didn't go with a lot of the old, like, Like Superman, Batman. Batman ain't no superhero. Batman they got. He can't do ish without that belt, bro.

[Ryan Coogler]

Bro, Batman. Batman. Batman was a dog. I'm saying, is what I was saying. Batman is crazy because, man, that was the one for us because they had to Animated series, and we used to mainline that. I had a homie from Fresno who played DB Incredible defensive back. He a coach now, man. Me and him, during fall camp, bro, we went half on the DVD pack. And during them double days, we would ride back to his girl house and watch and watch the movies between double days, bro. She'll make a little fool for us, bro. We on the couch, bro. Take taking it. Taking it back to eighth grade with it.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

You Know that's live. That's live.

[Mel Reid]

So Black Panther 3, how long we gotta wait?

[Ryan Coogler]

Not long. Yeah, not long.

[Mel Reid]

I mean, there's been a lot of rumors circulating that Denzel gonna be in it. Yeah, I don't know. That's what, that's what the word in the street.

[Ryan Coogler]

I have a.

[Mel Reid]

Talking.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been dying to work with Danielle, man, and I'm hoping we can make that happen. But, but, but I got every intention on working with him in that movie. And he, as long, as long as he interested, man, it's gonna happen. But, but, but you know, he, he, he a living legend, man. And he is and a great and a great mentor for so many of us, you know, like, like, he just, he just, he all about, he all about looking out for us now, man. You know what I'm saying? And you know what an example, bro, for how to live, man. He got his family around him, his children. Yeah, man, like everybody around college has.

[Mel Reid]

Been with Pauletta for 40 plus years. Oh, she's John David. John David used to train with me in Atlanta. I had retired, but he was down at Morehouse. And the trainer that trained me bring him to the track. We, you know, tell him how to do certain things. I've known that family for 20 that was in, I retired. So like 20 plus years. Yeah, so, and Denzel is great. His wife, Pauletta. Yeah, John David, man, they're unbelievable.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Rc, I just seen Denzel. I wasn't able to, actually, I, they were, I was able to let him know I was there, but he wasn't taking no visitors. It didn't matter, it didn't matter who you were. I was able to see him last week in New York. I went to see Othello.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, yeah. He don't play when he on Broadway, bro. Yeah, when he on Broadway. He in a different zone, bro.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

How was the play?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Oh, man, beautiful, beautiful. Listen, I, I, I, I, I took drama, I took drama in high school. So that's why I still have a love for, for drama and the arts and theater and dance. So I really.

[Mel Reid]

Excuse me, huh?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Come on, man, stop playing, right? Hey, listen, you already know because you can, hey, you can hear me talk when I talk about certain things you already know. It's something I really like. Now.

[Ryan Coogler]

Why you call Bush? When he said dance, though, that was when he, that was when he got up in there on you, bro.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hold on. This is, this is how you know I love dance too. Mind you.

[Ryan Coogler]

Mind you.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Rc. I did. I did the river dance ballet when I was playing. Yeah, I just left. I just left New Orleans last week. I went to see Alvin Ellie, man, for the. The umpteenth time since 1988, when my grandma took me to go see him in 88 at the Gusman Theater.

[Ryan Coogler]

I love it, bro.

[Mel Reid]

Man.

[Ryan Coogler]

Come on.

[Mel Reid]

Hey, I want to go see him. I'm gonna see him. I haven't been to a whole lot of Broadway. I saw Samuel Jackson when he played Dr. King.

[Ryan Coogler]

Okay.

[Mel Reid]

I might not get there.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah.

[Mel Reid]

Broadway is different. Yeah, it is so different than going to the. It's so different than going to an actual movie. Yeah. I don't know if you know what I'm saying. Don't show. I mean, you, like, you just went to a. But to sit there and to see, I'm like, damn, this is amazing.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, it's no joke, bro. It's a true actor's medium, you know?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yes.

[Ryan Coogler]

Like. Like. Like. Whereas. Whereas in film, you know, like. Like, it's arguably a filmmaker's medium, they'll say, television is a writer's medium. Like. Like. Like that. That stage is an actor's medium, bro. They got nothing to save them. You know what I'm saying? They just. They just. They just up there. You know what I mean? There's no. You can't bloom in. You know what I'm saying? Like, I guess it's just.

[Mel Reid]

I love it, bro. And that's what Denzel says. Denzel says he's a. He's a theatrical actor that went to the screen, say he cut his teeth on Broadway, and he takes that. He says, some people are staged and they come to Broadway. I was Broadway that went to the screen.

[Ryan Coogler]

It's interesting, too, bro. Cause, like. Cause like, what a lot of people don't. What a lot of people don't understand, too, is, like. It's like. It's like the culture of Broadway, you know? Like. Like, very similar to. You know, very similar to basketball.

[Mel Reid]

Right?

[Ryan Coogler]

Like, if you.

[Mel Reid]

If you.

[Ryan Coogler]

If you. You know, like, basketball is very culturally ingrained in the United States, so much so that if you go professional. If you go watch a professional basketball game anywhere in the world, most of the players is going to be from the States, you know what I'm saying? If you go overseas to Italy and watch a game there or overseas in Germany, you know what I'm saying? Like, you'll see a lot of players here. And with that stage work, you know, it's so culturally ingrained in the uk, you know, you Know what I mean? Like, it's a part of their culture. They think they about the stage, the way we are about basketball here, you know? You know what I'm saying? It's in every school, it's in every, you know, so you see, so you'll see these British actors getting shipped out all over the place, man, on every role, you know what I mean? On every, you know, you know, white British actors, black British actors, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And for me, coming up, bro.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

The.

[Ryan Coogler]

First time I hit, I hit a Broadway play and really and really seen, and really seen it, seen somebody get down, you know what I mean? It was like, you know, like, I damn near wish I had been exposed to it earlier, bro, you know what I'm saying? Cause I might have been doing that, you know what I mean? Right?

[Kyra K. Dixon]

I'm Camila, Ramon Peloton's first Spanish speaking cycling and tread instructor. I'm an athlete, entrepreneur, and almost most importantly, a perreo enthusiast. And I'm Liz Ortiz, former pro soccer player and Olympian. And like, call me a perreo enthusiast. Come on, who is it? Our podcast, Hasta Bajo is where sports, music and fitness collide and we cover it all, the Arriva Hasta Aho sit downs with real game changers in the sports world, like Miami Dolphins CMO Priscilla Shumay, who is redefining what it means to be a Latina leader. It all changed when I had this guy come to me, he said to me, you know, you're not Latina enough. First of all, what is that? My mouth is wide open. Yeah. History makers like the Sucar family who became the first Peruvians to win a Grammy.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

It was a very special moment for us. It's been 15 years for me in this career. Finally, things are starting to shift into a different.

[Kyra K. Dixon]

Listen to Astavajo on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Iheart Women's Sports, I'm Israel Gutierrez and I'm hosting a new podcast, Dub Dynasty. The story of how the Golden State warriors have dominated the NBA for over a decade.

[Mel Reid]

The Golden State warriors once again are NBA champions.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

From the building of the corps that included Klay Thompson and Draymond Green to one of the boldest coaching decisions in the history of the sport.

[Ryan Coogler]

I just felt like the biggest thing.

[Mel Reid]

Was to earn the trust of the players and let the players know that we were here to try to help them take the next step, not tear anything down.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Today, the warriors dynasty remains alive in large part because of a scrawny 6 foot 2 hooper who everyone seems to.

[Ryan Coogler]

Love for what Steph has done for the game. He's certainly on that, like Mount Rushmore.

[Mel Reid]

For guys that have changed it, come.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Revisit this magical warriors ride. This is dub dynasty.

[Mel Reid]

The Dubs dynasty is still very much alive.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Listen to dub dynasty starting April 8 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say, and not just about hockey.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Believe me, he does Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be, well, it's gonna be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line.

[Nate Thompson]

We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?

[Nate Thompson]

I'm vibing, Julie. I'm ready to roll.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app. App, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell bent effort to sabotage a war.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

J. Edgar Hoover was furious. Somebody violated the FBI and he wanted to bring the cap. Left to its knees, the FBI went.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Around to all their neighbors and said to them, do you think these people are good Americans? It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century, and the God damnedest love story you've ever heard.

[Mel Reid]

I picked up the phone and my.

[Kyra K. Dixon]

Thought was, this is the most important.

[Mel Reid]

Phone call I'll ever make in my life. I couldn't believe it. I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Listen to divine intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mel Reid]

Hey, well, hey, even if I just get a cat meal, I could be. I could be umboku's. Brother.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh, he got you, bro. Hey, hey, if y'all winning, man.

[Mel Reid]

Hey, hey, I could be a funko brother or something. I'm coming down there. I'm coming. I'm coming with it, right?

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, hey, hey. I'm with it, man. Y'all. Y'all, man. I'm with it, man. Yeah, y'all got. Y'all got such. Y'all got such great chemistry, man. When I watch y'all, bro. Yeah, it's evident, man.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

It's evident.

[Mel Reid]

I appreciate that. Sinners arrive in theaters April 18. Directed by, written by Ryan Coogler. He written such fruit Bell Station, Black Panther, Wakanda Forever, Creed, and now he's with this one. Sinners arrives in theaters April 18th. Ryan, thank you for giving us a little bit of your time. Thank you for the trailer. We all support you. Hey, Chat, make sure we go out here and support our brother, Ryan Coogler. Hey, he's doing big things for the community, doing big things for the culture. Yes, sir. And we got to make sure we keep him up. We gonna lift him up, and we're gonna keep him up there. Ryan, thank you so much for your time. Appreciate it. Hey, I'll see you down the road, man.

[Ryan Coogler]

I appreciate y'all, man. Thank you. Thank you.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Boss man.

[Ryan Coogler]

Love, man.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yes, sir.

[Mel Reid]

We got to talk about this.

[Ryan Coogler]

What?

[Mel Reid]

Bishop Marvin Sapp is receiving backlash. He locked the doors of the church until they received 40k in donations. Let's take a listen to this, Ocho.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Okay.

[Mel Reid]

And they understand the cost that is involved. There's 1,000 of you. I said close them doors. Ushers, close the doors. Close the doors. Close the doors. It's a thousand that's watching online. This is a small seed. If I get a thousand online to give this, if I get a thousand in the sanctuary to give this, that's $40,000 tonight. Now, everyone up here, we've all sold and seated, but I need everyone standing up here with us, with me to plant a seed of $100, because, again, it costs to sit up here. And this is what I need you to do. If you're giving electronically or even if you're giving tangibly, I'm gonna have y'all come to the altar and give it, because I need to see a thousand people moving. Bring them baskets.

[Ryan Coogler]

Bring.

[Mel Reid]

I want the baskets up here. I want to see the folks. Y'all start moving. Y'all can bring it right now. Come, come, come, come, come. A thousand people need to give $20. A thousand people need to give $20. A thousand People online need to give $20. This is easy. Saints.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hey, well, that's always been the church. That's always been the church. But see, they used to always been the church. I, I, I grew up in a church. You know that offering play that come around about 2, 3, 5, 9, they.

[Mel Reid]

Said, but the Lord said, give what you can. He ain't put no, he ain't put no number on it.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Oh, no.

[Mel Reid]

He say, when you tithe 10%.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

10% of your earnest, man.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yes.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

10% of your earnings.

[Mel Reid]

Now he will say, malachi, I think it's through. Malachi 3, 8 through 11. He said, well, a man robbed God. He answers the question because he already know what you're going to do. He say, yeah, where would I rob you? He said, in tithe. Ain't an offering.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh.

[Mel Reid]

He said, bring your tithe to the storehouse. I'll open up the windows of heaven and pour you out of blessings that you will not be able to receive. That's what he said. Now, he ain't tell these jack ladies to be coming up here talking about, hey, see, what they preaching is prosperity.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Mel Reid]

But see, that's why I'm gonna go into the ministry.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Come on, now, you. Yeah. Yes, sir.

[Mel Reid]

I'll pass the plate around. All the plastic complexion plate. Now, look here. Hey, don't put no change in the collection plate. Yeah, God don't like noise.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah, God don't like.

[Mel Reid]

I don't like noise. Hey, paper. Listen, I didn't go into the back.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Listen. Hey, you know, Marvin sat. Now, the church, the church, the church, the church. That's part of the building fight. The church need new windows.

[Mel Reid]

You ain't gonna tell me how. You're not gonna tell me how much to give. Oh, he need a roller. Oh, he need a, he need a jet. Oh, he need a Rolls Royce. He need a Bentley. Yeah. Oh, he ain't gonna have a better. He ain't gonna have. If I'm working harder, he gonna have a better car than me. Not that I'm donating to.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah. Hey, well, one, one thing you got to understand that I, I, I've never, I've never been, I've never been in the pool pit. I've never been a preacher, but I do understand the work that come behind it. I do understand the studying and the hours and all, all the stuff that they have to go through when it comes to running the church and being a preacher. And I'm not going to sit up here and preach because that's not me. I am not going to play with the Lord like that. But in the Bible, with the Lord. Hold on, listen to me. Now. In the Bible it says God loves a cheerful giver. It doesn't tell you how much you got to give, though.

[Mel Reid]

Exactly.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

That's my point.

[Ryan Coogler]

That.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

That's it. Now that's the only thing I don't agree with. Now you ain't going to lock them goddamn doors to get home and watch the basketball game because it's March Madness. Talk about something. I got to give you $1,000. Now the devil is a lie. Now, you gonna open them doors and I'mma give you what you what I can. Now that's what's gonna happen. Or we gonna have to tussle up here in this church.

[Mel Reid]

Yeah, then God gonna have to come down there and pull me up off you. He gonna have. He gonna have. He gonna have to come. He gonna have to come down above his throne because he's the alpha and the omega sits high and looks low. So he know I'm gonna be tearing your tail up in that church if you lock them doors and I can't get up out of there. But I'm saying, but come on now. Hey, they doing too much ojo.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hey. Yeah, they're tripped. They a trip. And it's a new church.

[Mel Reid]

I didn't even. I didn't even know. I didn't even know pastors was a job. Cause every when I grew up, the pastor, he was the principal, he was a janitor, he cut hair. He wasn't no preacher full time. That wasn't the only job he had.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Right?

[Mel Reid]

I know. I swear on you, I did not know that that was a full time job. I mean, maybe it's just me. Maybe that was just a Southern thing, but.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah. Amen.

[Mel Reid]

My pastor was a teacher at the school or he was a principal or he was a custodian. He was a barber. Yeah, he did other things. He wasn't just. He just didn't preach. Maybe that's just my. I don't know. Maybe that's just me.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hey, but one thing you got to think. I'm not sure if Marvin SAP has a megachurch, but I understand what. What goes into it and what entails when it comes to the overhead for a church of that magnitude with a congregation.

[Mel Reid]

Well, stop killing the church that big.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah. Listen, I don't know. I ain't never been there. I. I ain't never been there. But listen, one thing I do. I love some preaching, boy. I love some Preaching, you know, Grandma had me in the church, you know, Sunday, Wednesday, Bible study. I led the choir. You know, I was. I was in the. I was in the junior choir. I was a junior deacon. I did. I did a little.

[Mel Reid]

Everything I would need to see where they said that in the Bible.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Oh, it's not in there.

[Mel Reid]

And they locked the doors now. It's not in there in the Bible.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

No, it's not in there. That's not in there. You know, they, they, they.

[Mel Reid]

They.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

They rewrite their own story now. You know, we, We. We good for that. Good for that.

[Mel Reid]

Go to show you. Yeah, it used to be salvation was free, but ministers have found a way to charge for salvation. Salvation was free, but that's a good one. That way, man, they need to stop.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Look, that's a good one there.

[Mel Reid]

And it's not the fact that it's $20. It's the fact that he's put a number on it.

[Ryan Coogler]

Right?

[Mel Reid]

You don't tell somebody what they should give. That's between them and their God.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yes, sir.

[Mel Reid]

Not between the preacher trying to get money out your pocket.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah, especially. Especially during these times.

[Mel Reid]

I give. I ain't got no problem giving. But you don't. He ain't gonna tell me how much to give. That ain't got nothing to do with him. That's between me. Hey, I'm gonna have to answer. No matter what you think of Shannon Sharp. Shannon's gonna have to answer for Shannon.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah.

[Mel Reid]

You can save one soul. Your own. Yep. You trying to tell me what I need to do? I would have to give an account for this. I would have to go before that man and everything he gonna say, you remember this? You gonna remember. You remember that, man, they need to. I. I don't be liking that O2. I don't. I don't.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Listen, I'm. Listen, I'm with you when you're right. I'm with you here right now. I'm not getting too upset about it because I. I come from the Baptist church, you know, I've been there. I know what it's like from a little. From a little one until I was a senior.

[Mel Reid]

Look, I remember sitting on them benches. We had wooden benches. You slide too much, you might get a splinter in your butt. We didn't have no cushion. We didn't have no cushiony seats. It leaked. I mean, they revamped it, but it was a church, and you felt the Lord come in there. Not in a. Got all these fancy things. Lord, I ain't coming by here. Yeah, yeah, y'all play it in my name now. Hey, y'all gonna have the answer for this.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hey, there was some good days. Now, you. Now you got. I mean, just. You mentioned that video just bring back memories at church with Grandma and Overtown. You know about Overtown, right? In Miami.

[Mel Reid]

Yeah.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Mount Oliver Baptist Church. I'll never forget Reverend Claude. As I got a little older, my.

[Mel Reid]

First passenger's name was Reverend Clark.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

For real.

[Mel Reid]

Yeah.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

As I. As I got a little older, you know, Miami, Northwestern, well, Teddy Bridgewater just won the national championship.

[Mel Reid]

Yeah.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

I started walking from my Grandma House on 44th, 11th. I started walking to New Birth, because New Birth, they. They was at Miami Northwest and having church there, and I started going to see the honorable Victor T. Curry. Victor T. Curry, and became a part of that church. And now they over there open lock off 135th, everybody. That's a part of New Birth. I know you might see this Victor T. Curry. I hope everything is good. I know I ain't been to church in a while. I ain't got no suits, but I love you, and I'm doing. I'm doing right, Ocho.

[Mel Reid]

But they've been preaching prosperity for the longest time. You remember the televangelist, see Reverend Ike. And they had Jimmy Swagger. And they had. Yeah, yeah. Hey. Oh, and Jimmy Swag got up and talking about, Father, I've seen. You know, I'm saying, hey. But I'm saying, y'all remember Rex Humbard? It was Jimmy Swagger. Rex Humbar. Reverend Ike was the first one, because Reverend Ike was having you put $5 and send it in for the prayer cloth. I don't know if y'all remember that. Might have been before y'all time chat. But I'm old enough to remember. That's one thing about being old. And once you get to a certain age, you realize that's your only purpose left to do is to get old. Man, they better stop playing with me. Hey, man.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hey, hey, hey. That was classic goddamn Jimmy Swagger. Well, I remember Jimmy.

[Mel Reid]

Yeah. And I said, man, look here.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

That's funny.

[Mel Reid]

Like I said, I look, I give. The Lord knows you bless me. Yeah. And I don't have no. I don't have no problem. And not only do I give to the church if people in need.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah, that's me.

[Mel Reid]

Hey. I didn't help people in the wildfires that. That happened in California. Yes. Hey, Shannon. Hey. You know, me and my mom, we. My mom ain't got nowhere to go. Shannon. Right? I get you. I get Your plate for a couple of months.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

It is.

[Mel Reid]

Hey, I've never. That's the way my grand. My grandmother would give people her last. I'm like, why you can't play? Hey, they talking about they ain't got nothing to eat. You know, we gonna be okay. We got some rutabagas and, you know, we can make some crackle. No, let them make rutabagas. Give them what we gonna eat. And then we could go to the supermarket and we get some hot dogs. But that ain't how. That ain't how Mary Porter was. She say, son, you know, hey, one day God will bless you.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah.

[Mel Reid]

Hey, listen, she really, truly believed in that, right?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Hold on. I believe in that and always have, you know. You remember. Remember when I used to do the tipping? Do the tipping all the time, and I would put proverbs certain, the generous person will always. I stopped doing it because I kind of got in trouble because people seeing me do that and give the others. So they complaining, well, why are you not sending more to me if you got extra to give to strangers? So I, I just, I stopped doing it all together, you know, so anyway.

[Mel Reid]

But that's the same, that's the same thing. Ocho, when we gave to Southern, right? And why did you say bro? Bro? Come on, man.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mel Reid]

What about A and T? What about this? What about bro?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yeah, yeah. So it's, it's I, I, I stopped.

[Mel Reid]

Foremost, Savannah State gets my undivided attention. They first on the list, right?

[J. Edgar Hoover]

No matter what.

[Mel Reid]

Yeah, absolutely. And I love HBCUs. I've matriculated.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

Yes.

[Mel Reid]

And I got a degree from Savannah State. But first and foremost, I'm here sitting in this seat because a lot of people at Savannah State. Haynes Walton, Norman Elmore, Claire Baines, George McLemore, Joanne Green, Steve Smith, Gay Hewitt. They believed in me. Yeah, they believed in me. So, man, please. But I've always been like that, Ocho. I, I've always, you know, when I, I got money, I used to go back and, and, and, and tithe and, and, and make sure my grandma. Oh, give me something to put in the church. I give my grandma, you know. You want me to put all this in church? You say, give you something to put in church.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

You ain't got to put it all there. Keep something for yourself now.

[Mel Reid]

You ain't got to put it all in there. But you say, give you something to put in church. You want to put it all in there. I, hey, you know, your baby go take care of you Granny you go get some more. The volume.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell bent effort to sabotage a war.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

J. Edgar Hoover was furious.

[Ryan Coogler]

He was out of his mind and.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

He wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Listen to Divine intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get podcasts.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

What's up everyone? Julie Swearbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Nate Thompson]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Nate Thompson]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Listen to EnergyLine with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mel Reid]

This is Mel Reed, LPGA Tour winner and six time Ladies European Tour winner.

[Kyra K. Dixon]

And Kyra K. Dixon, NBC Sports reporter and host.

[Mel Reid]

And we've got a new podcast, Quiet Please with Mel and Kira.

[Kyra K. Dixon]

We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture. Some interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf superpower.

[Mel Reid]

An iHeart wins sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.

[Kyra K. Dixon]

Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Camila Ramon. And I'm Liz Ortiz. And our podcast Hasta Bajo is where sports, music and fitness collide and we cover it all. The Arriba Hasta. This season we sit down with history makers like the Sukar family who became the first Peruvians to win a Grammy.

[J. Edgar Hoover]

It was a very special moment for us. It's been 15 years for me in this career. Finally, things are starting to shift into a different level.

[Kyra K. Dixon]

Listen to Astavajo on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.