Nightcap Hour 2: Micah Parsons DEFENDS Trevon Diggs + Lamar Jackson WILL PLAY vs the Steelers + Troy Aikman ADVISING the Dolphins + Burrow & Chase SPEAK OUT on Bengals’ Season + Giants to DRAFT Mendoza?!

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2 (January 2, 2026)

Host: Shannon Sharpe

Co-Host: Chad Ochocinco Johnson

(Episode Theme: NFL News & Real Talk on Football & Life)

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode of "Nightcap" dives deep into major NFL headlines and authentic locker-room commentary. Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson tackle controversial team breakups (Micah Parsons defending Trevon Diggs), player narratives (Lamar Jackson’s injury skepticism), the Dolphins’ new GM search with Troy Aikman advising, Burrow and Chase on the Bengals’ future, the state of the Giants' QB room, and insightful Q&A from their chat. Between tough love football analysis and genuine life stories, it’s classic Club Shay Shay—authentic, sharp, and hilarious.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS

1. Micah Parsons Defends Trevon Diggs

• (02:31–10:30)
  • After a Cowboys beat writer trashed Diggs’ career via Pro Football Focus stats, Micah Parsons responded online, urging respect:
    • “I don’t know why everything has to be negative every time breakup happens. ... Gonna be great again.” (Micah Parsons via Shannon, 03:14)
  • Ochocinco and Shannon both call out the Cowboys and media for handling exits poorly and focusing on negative narratives.
    • “It’s tasteless to me. It’s classless to me.” (Ochocinco, 03:51)
    • “You expect it from fans... but the media in itself... you don’t have to do the players like that.” (Ochocinco, 03:51)
  • Shannon shares personal experience and notes that publicly, most reporters don't give farewells—it’s not their job (04:53).
  • They explore why Cowboys breakups are ugly and discuss Jerry Jones’ role:
    • “There’s no way an owner talks about a player like that publicly... and you think I’m gonna represent you in the right way?” (Ochocinco, 06:12)
• They dissect Diggs’ playstyle: aggressive, feast-or-famine, not solely to blame for the team's woes.
  • “I’m not gonna let y’all put all this on Diggs... There’ve been a lot of guys that hadn’t played their best football.” (Shannon, 09:40)
  • The real issue? Cowboys’ decision-making at the top:
    • “Y’all general manager is terrible and don’t nobody know that but him.” (Shannon, 10:31)

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2. Lamar Jackson Injury Discourse & Legacy

• (14:21–22:48)
  • Lamar Jackson plans to play against the Steelers, fighting back against critics questioning his toughness:
    • “I’ve never quit on my team before ... never quit on anything.” (Lamar via Shannon, 14:46)
  • Ochocinco: Not a defining moment for Lamar’s legacy, but “there are going to be ups and downs.”
  • Shannon doesn’t tolerate questioning a player’s injury without reason:
    • “What has he ever done to make you want to question whether or not he’s hurt?” (Shannon, 17:04)
    • Both hosts describe the real-world pain of back contusions, offering empathy for Lamar.
      • “Until you felt that goddamn blood harden up ... you’ll understand. You never understand.” (Ochocinco, 19:02)
  • Honest takes: acknowledgment that Lamar hasn’t looked quite like his MVP self recently.
    • “I’m saying Lamar doesn’t look the same to me ... That’s not hating. That is factual.” (Shannon, 20:35)
    • “You can be honest ... Playing bad, you’re gonna say they playing bad. Playing good, you’re gonna say they play good.” (Ochocinco, 22:31)

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3. Troy Aikman Advising Dolphins on GM Search

• (35:38–44:00)
  • The Dolphins bring in Troy Aikman as a consultant to help with their GM search—Ochocinco loves the move:
    • “This is an organization that has no ego and has no pride and understands ... Let’s go to someone who’s been there before.” (Ochocinco, 36:04)
  • Contrast with the Cowboys: Jerry Jones’ refusal to bring in a strong, independent football mind.
    • “Jerry can’t put his pride aside. Jerry wants all the credit.” (Shannon, 37:24)
  • They break down why top-tier coaches (like Sean Payton) won’t work for Jerry, and reflect on poor football decisions at the management level.
  • Shannon doubts Jerry Jones’ football acumen:
    • “He wouldn’t know 11 personnel, 12 personnel ... None of that. Absolutely not.” (Shannon, 43:36)

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4. Bengals’ Season: Burrow & Chase Speak Out

• (48:08–50:57)
  • Burrow and Chase express that changes are needed; Chase won’t say specifics, but it’s “pretty obvious.”
    • “Chase said ... they pay me to catch passes, score touchdowns. That’s what I’m gonna do. But y’all know what it is.” (Shannon, 48:48)
  • Ochocinco says everyone knows the issue is defense and pledges to recruit Jeffrey Simmons for a defensive overhaul.

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5. New York Giants’ Quarterback Future

• (59:29–60:54)
  • Giants considering top QB prospect Mendoza for the draft, but Ochocinco says stick with Jackson Dart:
    • “You got something special in Jackson Dart ... all that looking, they can check all the options in every other area except quarterback.” (Ochocinco, 59:46)

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6. Football Life, Old School Stories & Financial Realities

• (52:58–69:00)
  • Shannon and Ocho go deep on generational financial struggles, family stories, and the meaning of hard work.
    • Stories about growing up poor, finding a way, hard manual labor, and the changing American dream.
    • “My grandma ... did 10 loads of laundry for a quarter a day. ... There wasn’t a whole lot, but working in the summer ... we worked in the summer.” (Shannon, 57:36 and 64:25)
  • Memorable family moments—joy of showing his grandma his house, reflections on achieving beyond humble beginnings.
    • “She walked in there ... said ‘Libby, this is too much house. I never thought I’d see this day.’” (Shannon, 67:44)

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7. Q&A: Film Study, Turnovers, and More

• (70:42–91:18)
  • Detailed explanation of what players look for when watching film (formations, down/distance, coverage alignments, play recognition).
    • “We break the film down ... down and distance ... red zone ... coverages that they play against the formations.” (Shannon, 70:52)
  • Life advice and resolutions: Both say discipline is key; Ocho doesn’t do New Year’s resolutions—he’s always consistent.
  • Most overrated/underrated stat? Both agree: turnovers are the number one predictor of winning, often overlooked compared to other flashy stats.
    • “Turnovers ... that’s the greatest predictor, especially come playoff time.” (Ochocinco, 89:20)

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MEMORABLE MOMENTS

• On Cowboys' player exits:
  “Most times ... when other players get traded, they send in their farewells. But every divorce, when it comes to the Cowboys, it has to be nasty.” (Ochocinco, 03:51)

• On Lamar Jackson injury criticism:
  “What has he ever done to lead you or make you want to question whether or not he’s hurt?” (Shannon, 17:04)

• On Troy Aikman consulting in Miami:
  “It’s like having a GPS, huh? ... The directions that it provides you with—it allows you to get there much easier. That’s what Troy Aikman is for the goddamn Miami Dolphins.” (Ochocinco, 36:49)

• On Jerry Jones breaking down football film:
  “He wouldn’t know 11 personnel, 12 personnel ... None of that. Absolutely not.” (Shannon, 43:36)

• On generational wealth & struggle:
  “People can’t tell me nothing about hard time. I ain’t telling you what somebody told me ... I lived it.” (Shannon, 58:29)

• On film study as a player:
  “You got to recall ... you got to be moving fast. ... Sometimes they’ll throw you a little wrinkle.” (Ochocinco, 73:59/74:08)

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TIMESTAMPS FOR MAJOR SEGMENTS

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |------------------|----------------------------------------------------| | 02:31–10:30 | Micah Parsons defends Trevon Diggs / Cowboys drama | | 14:21–22:48 | Lamar Jackson injury legacy discussion | | 35:38–44:00 | Troy Aikman consults for Dolphins’ GM search | | 48:08–50:57 | Burrow/Chase on Bengals’ needs & future | | 59:29–60:54 | Giants draft rumors & QB commentary | | 52:58–69:00 | Financial struggles, family, and hard work stories | | 70:42–91:18 | Football Q&A: Film study, stats, and turnovers |

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CONCLUSION

This “Nightcap” episode spotlights the raw, honest conversation fans love—where football analysis, locker-room candor, and real-life wisdom collide. Shannon and Ocho’s chemistry shines as they break down the biggest NFL stories while staying deeply connected to their roots and their audience. If you want a smart, funny, and real NFL breakdown—this one delivers.

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For the full experience, catch the next episode Saturday night—and keep your ears open for plenty more of Shannon and Ocho’s hard-earned wisdom, laughs, and unfiltered takes.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho Michael was active today on Twitter. Oh, excuse me X defending his new teammate Trayvon Diggs. First, a Cowboy beat writer tweeted, trayvon Diggs Gray per Football Focus. I don't even look at Pro Football Focus. 2020 was 67.2, then 21, it was 59.6. 20, 22 it was 66.9. And 23 it was 80.2. Only two games, though. 24 it was 56.6. And 25 was 56.1. Statistically, he's the worst corner in the league right now. And the tape is even worse. Maybe we owe those guys that Pro Football Focus an apology, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then Michael responded. I feel like, what the point there, trying to publicly disrespect someone. He's not representing the star anymore. Just give the man a farewell, wish him the best. I don't know why everything has to be negative every time breakup happens. He's better. He's in a better situation right now. Trust me, bro. Gonna be great again. Then he added, y' all want me to feel bad? Jerry Jones slandered my name to the Cowboys media and national media for months. So do I think I can react to comments if I want to? Respectfully? Oo yeah, man. What you thinking?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, listen, I mean, Micah at, at some point, he's tired of it. Obviously, when things don't work out, why is it always the media once? Why not wish the players farewell? Why do you always have to bring up the negative about him on, on, on, on why he's going and, and, and where he, where he's at right now? And I, I, I don't understand. It's, it's, it's tasteless to me. It's classless to me. Most, most times when other players from other teams, they get traded, they send in their farewells, they say, thank you, appreciate your work. I know things didn't work out the way they should, but hey, every divorce, when it comes to the Cowboys and their players, it has to be nasty. It, it doesn't have to be some, you know, you expect, you expect it from fans, sometime fans, yes, but, you know, the media in itself, there's so many other things that's going wrong in that organization. You don't have to do the players like that. They did Micah like that. They said they were better without him. Then they, they put up these numbers. They, they, they found numbers in a way to, to justify him not being there. Why it was okay. And why they were in a better position. And now with Trayvon Diggs, they. They did the same thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, normally, reporters don't know farewell. They might call you if they have your number. They might. That might be something. Privately, I appreciate you. You know, you're talking to me. He was always respectful and professional with me when I was here and you were here, so I really, really appreciate that. I got a lot of that when I left Denver the first time. Even when I, you know, I had a lot of guys reach out and, you know, we stayed in contact for years. They would call and ask me certain and things I could help them on. I would be more than happy to help. But normally, publicly, reporters can't wish you the best. That's. That's not what their job. That's not what their job is, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I. I think the thing is, is that people like, well, Michael, this divorce has happened five months ago. Yeah, I think that's the thing. People like, bro, you. You moved on with your life. You happy?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. I mean, but. But he. In.

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In sense, in essence, for context, you gotta understand, he was taken up for Trayvon. And, yes, that. That's all. And just reminding them five months ago, they did him the exact same way as much as he'd done for them, obviously, not being able to, you know, what the end goal is? The end goal is always to win a championship. He wasn't able to bring that, but they found ways to justify him leaving. And some of the things that Jerry said, and obviously, you know, we talked about it in length when it happened. Oh, he wasn't coming back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There's no way owner talks about a player like that publicly. And you still in his team. And you think I'm gonna represent you in the right way?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I agree with you. Look, like I said last night, I'm not here to beat up Trayvon. He had his moments. And I. I just saw things that were kind of like. Had me trending. You know, I just keep my mouth shut because I hear a lot of people saying, well, we got people. They send it. DMing me pictures of him in the club or him being somewhere.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That ain't got nothing to do with me. I'm gonna talk about his play on the field, and that's where I'm gonna leave it at. So. But I just saw the. I just saw the way it was trending, and I was like, yeah, they're gonna have. They're gonna have a. They're Gonna have a breakup here before long. And. And it. It happened, you know, the. As Brian Schottenheimer shoddy said, yeah, because we told him he couldn't go. And then the reports that he was at a concert. I don't know. I don't know if he was at a concert. But that's it. That's inconsequential. Because when you ask him, could you stay, they said no. Right. Once they said no, it doesn't matter whether you're at a concert. And I guess like you said, maybe. Maybe he just wanted to leave. Maybe he wanted out. I don't know. Right. But in that situation, once, if your ball said, you ask your boss, can I get off tomorrow? He says, no, we really need you to come in. Ocho, if you take off tomorrow, it don't matter what you took off for. Right. They did not give you the day off. So if they move in another direction, you can't be mad.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I don't think he is mad. I don't think he is mad either way. I think obviously he wanted out. He knew it was coming. There were issues obviously, dating back to training camp and him choosing to. To do it. Not training camp, but off season. Him choosing to do his. His rehab and elsewhere and not want to be in Dallas. Obviously Jerry Jones and the Cowboys organization taking 500,000 from him because of his choice and wanting to rehab away from the facility.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Obviously him saying he's healthy, him being a healthy scratch. Him talking to the media, the media saying he's healthy, but Jerry saying he's not healthy. I mean, it was so much turmoil going on there, and I think he just wanted to expedite the process of him not being there. So him choosing not to come back on that flight and. And stay wherever he was and do what he wanted to do, and he got what he wanted.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the thing is, Ocho also, and you heard April Floos when he was talking, he said some things trans hard. He's like, look, when you have a guy that can get there suddenly and we trade that guy, he's talking like a guy that knows he's not coming back. So I'm gonna be truthful. We traded Michael. What the hell do you expect to happen with our secondary? You need a guy that can win right now. He's the one guy that can win right now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's the one guy that if you don't double, he will wreck your deep, he'll wreck your offense. They don't have anybody like that. And so with that. With Trayvon not well, maybe he was help. Maybe he's healthy now. Maybe he wasn't healthy at the start of the season. I don't know. I don't know. But what I do know is that he was a guy that would take some risk. He's a. He's a. He's a feast of famine guy. Oo, he's going to get you, but you're going to get him. Yeah, and. And teams double moved him. They. That's how you. That's how you got to get him. You know, there are guys on show. We starting off, we double move you because we got to back you up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Aggressive. They aggressive.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gonna jump something. So we want you. We gonna. We gonna. We're gonna use your aggressiveness against you. And Diggs is. He's not in Dallas anymore. And. And people go like, well, you know, that's what. No, no, that's not the reason why. That's not the reason why you. You're not gonna. I'm not gonna let y' all put all this on Diggs. Has Dig played his best football the last couple years? No, but there have been a lot of guys that hadn't played their best football. Y' all think Duron Bland played his best football?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all paid him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He. He just got that back bag.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think he played his best. There are a lot of guys that hadn't lived up to expectations. That's a part of it. They got some. The Cowboys got some choices to make. Y'.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Ojo Lamar Jackson said he's planning to play Sunday against the Steelers and of the regular season finale. Lamar told the reporter 100 I'm going to be out there. While he missed Saturday's Saturday's victory over Green Bay with the back intuition, he's been a field participant in practice Wednesday and Thursday. Lamar added he's planning to wear some protective padding for the back Sunday's game. Lamar also addressed some of the skepticism about his ability to pay through pain. I've never quit on my team before. I've never quit on anything, to be honest with you. I don't know where the noise came from. Ocho is this a, a defining moment for Lamar's legacy?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, defining moment? No, absolutely not. I wouldn't call it a defining moment. Obviously legacy. It takes time to continue to build. They're going to be ups and downs when it comes to creating that said legacy that we're talking about for Lamar Jackson. He has a very long way to go. He has a very, very long way to go. I don't like, obviously, when it comes to some of the great players, especially at the quarterback position. Yeah, you're going to have times like this where they're rumblings where, where you, you have certain people saying certain things, but you really don't understand what it is they are saying and why it's coming about, about you. You think about Lamar Jackson. He don't say much. Nope, he don't say much. You know, you don't, you don't talk much. So it's hard to, to be able to attack some of the things and say some things that are coming out about him unless you're internally and inside that building. Which is weird to me, which is why I said what I said when a certain beat reporter, whether the beat reporter for them or whether it's the beat reporter in Baltimore in general.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think Mike Preston. Is he a Beatle columnist? Because I think Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike Preston was, he was a, I think he was a beat reporter when I was there. He might be a columnist now, but okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I think if I'm not, if I'm not mistaken, I'm not sure if they're calling Colin Cowherd. Okay. Cow Herd. Have some, have some things he might have said earlier in, in the week.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, did I didn't hear. Oh, Joe, I don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, listen, I might, I might be wrong. I'm, I'm. There's been, quote me into some things that, that, that only someone internally would know and I could be wrong about that. But, but again, listen, this happens. This happens. I think Lamar is going to be fine. The rumblings, you know, like I said all the time, you know how this business works. You know how this business works. Where there's smoke, there's fire a little bit always. There's always a little bit of truth, you know, so he gonna be fine whether it's in Baltimore or whether it's somewhere else. Because we know, you and I both know what another, another team is getting. Yeah, he can bring to the table, you know, he gonna bring the table and he gonna bring some legs with him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think, I don't think he's leaving Baltimore. Not no 29 year old quarterback that's a two time league MVP. You ain't getting rid of that. Look and see what happens. Ocho, I don't know if you've ever been nicked and had to leave a game. But I've been nicked and left the game. Right, but, and then the next week I was able to play. There are certain things that happen that you're not ready, you're not able to go back in, you're not able to finish the game. It's okay. It's happened. Lamar Jackson is not the first quarterback that's been knocked out of a game and hadn't been able to go back in. It happens. I don't know. Look, if you want to say that he hadn't played up to the Lamar Jackson that we're used to seeing this year, I will concede that. But for you to question how hurt he is, right. What has he ever done to lead you or make you want to question whether or not he's hurt? Everybody have varying levels of pain tolerance?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Pain tolerance, yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And people like, well, shoot, look, by the time that it shot it up, it's gonna take 30 minutes to 40 minutes for the medicine to get in there. The game's over. And he might not be a guy that wants to shoot up. Everybody ain't like me. I'm shooting it up and I'm trying to go next week or whatever. That's me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I don't, I don't look at somebody because I did something and think they automatically should do something. I don't, I'VE never been like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I worry about me. That's all I can worry about. That's all I. That's really all I'm responsible for, was me.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

So I don't like. And I agree with Lamar. I don't know what he's done to make you question whether or not he's been hurt, like. Oh, he ain't really hurt with little old back. Well, I've been hitting the back before it hurt.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, just like Ty Simpson. Ocho. You see how Ty Simpson, when he called that ball up, I got hit in the back just like that in Kansas City. And I cough that mofo up too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right, right, right up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Take it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And the funny thing about the people if that. That have never played sports or play any. Anything. Anything competitive, you'd have to understand if you. If you get kneed in the back in a certain area in. In. In a soft tissue area and you get a goddamn back contusion until you felt that. Until you felt that goddamn blood harden up and it's stiffen up in that certain area and you can't move and you can't bend. You'll understand. You never understand. So, I mean, listen, I had a contusion right on. Right on my thigh. Someone kneed me on my thigh, and it got to the point where the contusion was so bad where I couldn't bend my leg.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. I could have been my leg.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That blood settled.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bingo. I. I mean, so I can understand that back area. Oh, my goodness. I could just. I could just imagine what young Bull was going through.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, my thing is, and I've been abundantly clear, y', all, be honest, Has Lamar Jackson looked this year like he did last year and the previous years? Yes or no? Be honest.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, because the numbers are not the same as they were last year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He was 41 and 5 last year, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. Or take the MVP. Even if you take the seasons, he got hurt a couple. I think 20, 21, he missed four games. I missed five games each year, so that's 10 games. But if you go back and look at the season that he's won the mvp and last year he could have won. Chad, don't do that. Because I'm saying he doesn't look the same this year as he has in years past.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's not hating. That is factual. How many touchdowns has he passed for this year? How many interceptions does he have? So when you look at it, if you just look at it objectively, I get it. That's your guy. You supposed to ride for your guy. But deep down. And if you want to say, Shannon, you hate it, but deep down inside. Deep down inside, you know, man, Lamar ain't played like he been. Like. He like. Like the Lamar, like, Action Jackson. I know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. You can be honest. I was honest when I said it about Patrick Mahomes. Who the heck? I called him a homeboy. State Farm didn't want to give me no credit. They called him my homie. Ain't nobody ever called that man my homie or my homeboy before I said it. They call him Patrick Mahomes. I said last year. And this year, Patrick Mahomes doesn't look the same. And y' all look at it because he went to the super bowl, you. But still, you gotta peel the layers away. It's okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. The numbers aren't the same.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

I got no dog. I. Look, I want the Ravens to win outside of the Broncos. The Ravens. I root for the Ravens, obviously. But at the end of the day, I still got to be honest. And when the Broncos don't play well. Oh, y' all forget that, though. But I get it, you know? You know what? You more hard on black quarterbacks.

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I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got into a very heated discussion with my partner on television. What quarter, what color was that quarterback? Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he was. He would. He would watch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So y' all missed that part. Of what me and Ms. Skip got into it about Brady or when I was on Romo? Y' all missed that part. What about cousins, Baker, Mayfield? Did y' all forget about how we went for eight, nine straight weeks until the man got traded? Even when he got to Carolina, I was still on Baker's neck. Yeah. Where were y' all then?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, hey. One thing about it, one thing I can say about your boy, it don't matter who it is. Black, white, black, white, yellow, green, Skittles. It don't matter what it is. But you fail. If you're playing bad, you're gonna say they playing bad. Playing good, you're gonna say they play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna say that. I don't try. And people see a lot of times, Ocho, what people try to do. If I say, man, Ocho didn't play good, well, you. I'm trying to take away your Pro Bowls. I'm trying to take away your All Pro. No, you did that. That's gonna be on your resume, right? I'm talking about right now. Yeah, that's All I'm talking about right now, I stayed on Romo. When Brady didn't play good, I was on Brady. When Baker didn't play good, I was on Baker. When Peyton Manning didn't play good, I was on Peyton. When he was losing no playoff games. But y' all don't remember that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They might. They might be too young to remember that, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They remember when I was on break. Hold on. They ain't too young to remember what just happened to two years ago.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

On Undisputed, they remember.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They choose not. They just try to wear this. No, no, bro. When Mahomes didn't play. When Mahomes weren't playing well this year and last year, where did he end up? Two things can be true. You can end up at a destination and still not be playing well.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It happens all the time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But just know it. I'm saying Lamar doesn't look the same to me. When he came, he wasn't playing well before. Not like the Lamar we used to seeing. And then when he got nicked and came back, he wasn't the same. Even his mom said in the play leading up to the playoffs, he should have run more. But when I said it, I'm hating.

[Chad Ochocinco]

His mom told him, yeah, hey, do, baby. Do what you do best now. Do what you do best.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No goal post, moving. His coordinator said this is the first time. If he practiced tomorrow, he will have practiced Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, since week 10. Normally, Ocho, when you healthy, you practice, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, especially the quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because his is all about timing. It's all about timing, right? Man, y' all need to. Y' all need. Y'. All. Y'. All. Y' all gotta. Y' all gotta. Y' all gotta stop making everything. So I guess when I. I don't know. I need to see. So I need to see Orlovsky. No, I can't. He the wrong. Gotta ask because he gonna support every quarterback. But I need somebody. I need. I need some of these white guys to do what we do. When they criticize a white quarterback. I wonder if the white people come in their chat and come on their DM and say, you hating. I just like. Because I want to see. I gotta see because I know that's what we do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess. I just want to see O. I just want to see for a day.

[Chad Ochocinco]

God damn it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What happened?

[Chad Ochocinco]

My goddamn light went out, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I just thought you was dark.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Skinned N. Man, that's not funny, man. Like, ain't nothing going right with this today. My camera. Hey, you Ain't noticed. My camera went just clear not too long ago, huh? You look the same no earlier. You a. You ain't notice it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I did notice it, though. Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I got a, I got a, I got a new camera. I got a Sony. I got a Sony A7. A new Sony A7. Then I got the new Type C. What you call it? Type C. I don't understand all this, but I had Dean. Dean, a friend of mine, obviously. Ash. No. Dean. Hey. Matter of fact, Ash. Thank you. Ass. Because. Because you allowed me to meet Dean. He helped me change my whole goddamn setup. So I'm gonna be professional. Like, unk. Give me about two. Hey, I'm going to have my own team. It's just going to be two people, though. Yeah, I'm going to have my own team. I'm excited.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That would be awesome.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, this would, this would be huge for Lamar. They've been down, they haven't been in first place in the division, and now all of a sudden, to come back and win the division. He missed the game. And that's what your quarterback's supposed to do. What does the backup supposed to do? Keep you afloat until the starter comes back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We saw Matt Jones do it and do it for San Francisco.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Keep them afloat until the starter gets back. Boom. Now you in position. Okay, Lamar, winner take all. You got a former MVP. You got two former MVPs locked up last game of the season. Winner take off.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, this is going to be a good thing. And matter of fact, all the rumblings and all the noise, it's gonna quiet everybody. Especially, Especially with the way the Ravens started the season ofa with a donut.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And to come out on the back end, you know, listen, this is not a, this is not a sprint, it's a marathon. It ain't how you start, it's how you finish. So if they finish with the win and make the playoffs and win the AFC north, well, guess who won't get the credit. The same one they've been talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So I, I, I honestly, he's gonna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have to look, he's gonna have to play well because the defense, they, they don't rush the quarterback.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The last guy that you want to have is somebody as accurate as Aaron Rogers, then you can't get pressure on him. Oh, yeah, that's the problem.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But you know what the good thing is for the, for the Raven defense is even if you don't rush Aaron Rogers, who the hell going to get open to catch the ball, brother. Darnell Washington is out. He hurt. Broken. DK is out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, Calvin Austin probably gonna be out again. So you ain't got nobody but game. Well, Friarmouth. Oh. MBS Valdez. Scantling.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Adam Thielen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, so now where's my offensive production gonna come from? Where my big play. Big play is gonna. My chunk plays. You mean to tell me I have to drive the ball all the way down the field 80 yards every time?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's gonna be perfect. Because who your playmakers back there on the back end? I don't know if you noticed, but you see how they be giving up yards. That Raven secondary.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, hey, whoever. Whoever. Number two on you getting the ball.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nate Wiggins had a bad game. He had a. Yeah, he had a bad season. 2. 2. 2. 2.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Two games he's had a bad season.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It was that bad. All. You know, I don't really. I don't really watch the Ravens.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ask the Ravens fans what they think.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Ravens fans, if y' all in the chat, Nate Wiggins. It was that bad this year, huh? What was it? Was it that bad this year? Talk to me. Talk to me nice, too, now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Marlon ain't. Ain't been the same.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Somebody said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know if he broke his hand because you see him had, like. Oh, yeah, something cast up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he had a patent on there. Yeah, he. He cast up. No, some. Some people. Yeah, the chat. The chat is kind of conflicted. Most of them saying Marlon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, Marlon's been bad. The secondary has been bad. What is the Raven secondary rank in past coverage, but a lot of that has contributed to the front.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Not being able to get any pressure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not be able to get any pressure.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right. Hey, they say, yeah, Nate, Nate, Nate having a down year, but Marlon is worse.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where's the Raven secondary where they pass defense? Because I don't think they got nobody with five sacks.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think. I think the person leading in Saxy might have six, if I'm not mistaken.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The dn. I can't remember his last name. I think he has six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're 20. They're 30th in past defense.

[Chad Ochocinco]

30Th.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's only 32 teams.

[Chad Ochocinco]

God damn. Okay, now. Hey, that. Now that's. That's bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Guess there are two teams worse than pass defense. And they. Both of them got seeds. Colts, Cowboys.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I'm glad. I'm glad my bangles ain't in that. You see that? You see, we get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We moving on y' all 27th. I couldn't let you get too happy. You starting to celebrate too much.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that don't make it no better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You, you like? Well, we we we we we ain't 30th the worst Ocho the Miami Dolphins did you know?

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[Shannon Sharpe]

In hall of Fame quarterback ESPN analyst Troy Aikman as a consultant to advise organization on his general manager search. It's not a permanent role, but he'll be an advisor throughout the process for the Dolphins next general manager. Miami Ownership wanted Outside respected perspective from someone who had a strong relationship across the league. Damn the team that he won three. Never mind. But oh Joe. What? What what do you you like this?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I absolutely love it. I absolutely love it because this is an organization that has no ego and has no pride and understands in the direction in which they want to go. Let's go to someone who who's been there before. Let's go to someone who's won three Super Bowls and can help guide Us in the right direction on who we want to put in a position to make the right calls for our organization going forward. And the most important call is going to be a quarterback. So why not get a Super bowl winning quarterback who's been there and done that and knows the ins and outs of what we need to do. Now we not asking for, for a permanent position. Just give us, just give us some, some, some guys, some, some guidance. You know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This guy. What do you think about that guy? Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. It's like having, it's like having a gps, huh? You know exactly where to go. Right. You know exactly where to go with your gps. But the directions, the directions that it provides you with, it allows you to get there much easier.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So that's what Troy Aikman is for the goddamn Miami Dolphins. And I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now I will need some expertise about a general manager.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I, I wish, I wish he, I, I wish he would have put his ego and pride aside and allowed him to do exactly what, you know, Troy is doing for the, for the goddamn Dolphins over there for the star.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jerry, Jerry can't put his pride aside. Jerry won all the credit.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He can get the credit. He can get it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why, that's why he can't bring in a strong coach. He said he thought about hiring Sean Payton. He was never going to hire Sean Payton because Sean Payton gonna have control. You not Sean Payton gonna have control. He gonna have control over that 53 and he gonna have some control in the draft in free. Absolutely.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right, right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you got to realize he was the coach at New Orleans for umpteenth years.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where he had control. You mean to tell me he can go into a situation where, and have no control.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, it not happening.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And just be a figurehead, just be a face.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why he wasn't gonna have fire Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson like no bro, I'm not gonna let you just put players on my team that I don't want or need.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right, right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's never, he was never gonna get somebody like that. Now hopefully shoddy can change the system, you know, change the culture. Think he had a good system. But they need defensive help. Like I said, you look at Dak, he's leading the league in passing. He got two 1,000 yard receivers, a thousand yard rusher, and they missed the playoffs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, they didn't got no problems on offense. I mean, you look at the Cowboys offense, it's similar to that of the, the Bengals offense. They ain't Got no problems on offense. Well, I think most people, when it comes to us offensively, they'll talk about our officer line and not. Not being able to keep Joe Burrow upright, right? But they got them Cowboys and Bengals. But defensively, hey, we need. We need the overhaul. Wait, we both. We both need overhaul. And I already said. I already said what I wanted. I said. I told. I told Jeffrey Simmons. I told Jeffrey Simmons Jeffrey Simmons made the Pro bowl, right? Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So I'm gonna see. I'm gonna see Jeffrey down there in Orlando, and I'm gonna put a little bug in his ear. You know, you could do two. You could do two things. I'm gonna tell you like I told Miles Garrett, you know, there are consequences and repercussions. You.

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You.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You feel me? You know, so in off season.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Pro Bowls in San Francisco, Ocho, they moved it. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. We gonna be there anyway. So, I mean, what's the. Listen, I mean, you give me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not the week before, remember? That's the week before Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, we gonna be there, though, right, Ocho?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is that Saturday before. We don't get there till that Tuesday.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, it looked like I'm had to make me an early trip then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you go right ahead.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, and yeah, on the Tuesday, we get there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

See, I told you he gonna be there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't going.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ash just told you we got to be there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, we got to be in San Francisco. We ain't got to be there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. No, hey, chat for those. You for those.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yo, man, look, I don't want to see. We. The error, you know, is different now. I mean, it ain't a game. It's. It's flag and it's, you know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bullying, you know, dodgeball and it's. Yeah, yeah, you know, catching the ball, all that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, yeah, I understand. I understand. I understand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And plus, Ocho, you know, the thing was, it used to be, Ocho, you wanted to. You wanted. You wanted the Pro bowl to be after the Super Bowl. Cause you wanted to flex if you won.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you remember how everybody used to come over there and everybody. Hey, man, congratulations. Hey, man, let me get you a drink. It was. It was a big thing, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

It ain't that no more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it's so anti the before, have to think about the half. Because a lot of the guys that. That was a. In the super bowl, that was going to be in the Pro Bowl.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, you right. You're right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is what it is, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think Jerry would ever do something like this? Get some outside input?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you know how Jerry is. I've come to learn more about Jerry now that I'm not a player, now that I'm on the other side of the fence, and now I'm able to see exactly how Jerry operates and handles and runs that organization. Yeah, it. It will never happen. It would never happen. I never knew Jerry was like this. Obviously, because I was playing the game and I didn't know. So it's hard for me to see from the. Out from that. From the field. From the field. Looking in, I thought he was one of the greatest owners of all time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, as far as marketing, he is the greatest marketing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And. And what is one thing that I was great at while I was playing? Marketing. So I saw him in a completely different light.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So now I'm on the other side of the fence, and now I'm looking. Well, God damn, I understand why. The brand, the product, it sells itself. The star sells itself. You've done a great job at putting them in that light. But, Jared, the other things that you can do as well, that. That can. That can. That can take that brand and that. That marketing availability to the next level, but he doesn't see fit because, like you say, he wants the credit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the thing is, Ocho is like one of your greatest. The guy to help you win three Super Bowls.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't think enough of his a. His football aman to tap into that. Reserve another team does. Another team.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, maybe. Maybe with him seeing another team do it, maybe he comes to his senses and says, you know what? Why don't I use Troy in that same manner as well?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guarantee you Troy be 10 times better than Jerry at it. Oh, I bet you. Now, look, Jerry ain't. Ain't watching no tape. Jerry has Will McClay and he's like, okay, these are the guys we got. These are the guys we want. And he breaks it down like that. Jerry not watching, no tape. So Jerry get on there and talk about. He know football. He knows from the jocks to the. For everything. No, he doesn't. You get Jerry in front of the things. Okay, Jerry, what coverage are they playing?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You don't think Jerry could break it down like that, huh? No. After all these years?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely not. 1,000% not. He wouldn't know. 11 personnel, 12 personnel, 13 personnel, 21 personnel. He wouldn't know any of that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that's. That's funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, not two, three by one. None of that. No, absolutely not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now I'm sitting here trying to picture it, too. Jerry Jones being able to break down film the same way. Like a Troy or like a John Gruden. You know how John Gruden break that thing down? Oh, hey, I'm just trying to pitch that. That's funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's about. Jerry played College football. Yes. 70 years ago. Wait, it ain't like. Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Jerry played football for real?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, at Arkansas. He's on the national championship team. Him and Jimmy. What position? Offensive line. He's so little. They were little back then.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, he wasn't fat and lost weight?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they were small back then. Lineman. Oh. So that had. That was like. I think that was when Arkansas winning championship. 64. Is that when the Arkansas won the national championship? That might have been 64.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I think Jared's the same age as my mom.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I'm confused.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on. He went to college. He played at Arkansas. So did he won the lotto or something? To come into that kind of money, to be able to buy the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All kinds of money. They had some money. They had a little money now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, they was already good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I mean, he made more. They didn't have it. That. But he was okay. They were okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Oh, that's a nice little backstory. I don't know about the backstory. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, he was. Look, he wasn't. He wasn't thin like he is now. Well, how was your Jerry probably weighed 200 pounds, 210.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you got to realize offensive linemen weren't big like they are now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. I like it. I like it. Yeah. I sure. I sure would like the backstory on how you go from actually playing college football, being a lineman and then owning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jerry Richardson did that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jerry Richardson did that. Used to own the Carolina Panthers. He played football.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Then. He played ball, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. George Hallis also Ocho. But you gotta realize you could buy a team. I mean, you bought a team for $2,000, but do you know how much $2,000 was back then? Or you spent $25,000 or $50,000. Do you know how much money that was back then?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn you. You look at you looking at today's term. It wasn't like that back then.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the Steelers. I think Mr. Rooney bought the Steelers for like 3, 300 bucks. That he wanted to. That he wanted to. Said he wanted the tracks.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. The Steelers for. Jerry Richardson. He started out, played football. He was on the. With Raymond. With Raymond Barry. Them. I think they won the championship.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Steelers were purchased in 1933 for a $2,500 franchise fee. Yeah, Steelers were bought, the franchise fee was 2500 in 1933. He won the money at the racetrack.

[Chad Ochocinco]

See, see, I'm so bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But do you know Ocho, you. They were just getting out of the Great Depression. Do you know how much $2500 was?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's a lot of money back then, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, $2,500. Are you hearing what you're saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Think about was 25, $100 a lot of money when you was a kid?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, for, for us. For me, boy, I would have been.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, so you was born. So go back 60, go back 60 more years.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, it's hard for me to fathom and graph, grasp the concept maybe because I've. Never mind.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You look at it. See you looking at what you got now. You look at that in today's terms, but you got to look back then, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, let me. I got to put myself, I got to put myself back there in the, in the 60s, 30s. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase both came out and spoke today about the Bengals disappointing season and what needs to change to get this team back to the Super Bowl. Burrow said, we don't want to be in the spot where we are right now. So something's got to change. Whether it's players, we're continuing to improve and get better and play championship caliber football or bringing in guys or we that will or whatever they may be. Obviously something has to change. Chase, I think some of the things are pretty obvious what we need to change. At the end of the day, I can't really say or put emphasis on what needs to be changed because it's not my role, but it's pretty obvious. Defense and what some of the issues are need to be changed. I love Chase. Chase said ain't my role. They play me to catch passes, score touchdowns. That's what I'm gonna do. But y' all know what it is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, listen, the Ella. We know what the elephant in the room is. I mean chasing Jamar don't. I mean chasing Jamar, Joe, Joe and Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase don't need to say it. I'm not sure why the media's even asking them, asking them questions. They know what the problem is. What we know what the problem is. Those that aren't Bengal fans know what the problem is. We know what issues need to be addressed in the offseason, in the draft and I'm. I'm hoping. I'm hoping that we continue based on some of the things that Joe Burrow has said. He's put everybody on alert. He's put everybody on alert, and we need to do what's necessary to continue to keep our team in an advantageous position to compete for theardi every single year. Continue to put pieces. Not around me offensively, because you've done. You, You. You've done everything you can for us offensively.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you can prove. Offensive line. I won't be mad if you improve the offensive line.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. You. You can do that. You could maybe. Maybe add another piece somewhere. Somewhere in the guard area, maybe. I would. I would like a nice centerpiece. Well, at the center position, which is most of the time is the weak link on. On most teams. But defensively, we know we. Hey, we need to attack. We need to attack in the off season and in the draft. Defensively, I personally chat. I want us to go get Jeffrey Simmons. I'mma talk to Jeffrey Simmons at the Pro Bowl.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A lot of other people.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I. I want to go get Jeffrey Simmons.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let's. Let's solidify somebody up there on that front end. On that front end. You know, and I'm. I'm not sure what's going to happen. I'm sure Trey Henderson is gone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, he gone.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Trey Henderson is gone. I'm not sure we can. If we can get another premiere deep as in, you know, but I know we're gonna get Jeffrey Simmons. I told Jeffrey. We. We've had multiple conversations, and I don't. I don't want it to come to. To. To. To a rift. So I'm. I need to make sure that happens. You know, I'm doing my due diligence for the organization as well on the outside.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna give you some key figures from 1933. The average home price cost between $3950 $700. The average income was around 1300 to $1700. A new car cost roughly 600 to $800, and gasoline was 10 to 18 cents a gallon.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, what would you do for us to be back in those time for them kind of prices?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, I don't want to be back to my brother. That was a great depression. People jumping out of winter, killing you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I don't want to be back there. I'll put it right here, right now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, I'm understanding. I'm just saying with. With the price point. With the price point.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe, blacks weren't making money like that. Do you understand? If the average blacks weren't. They didn't include us in the average.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I, I understand what you're saying, but, hey, you know, everybody complained about the goddamn prices today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You were a sharecropper. Do you understand what you was doing? You was making pennies. If the average income was 12 to 1700, there weren't. There probably wasn't a thousand black people in the country making that kind of money.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I thought, hell, no, I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Want to go back there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, you know what I, you know what I'd have been doing back then?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what I'd have been doing back then?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hustling like a lot of other black people was doing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, exactly. Well, I would have been a. I would have been. I would have been the best bootlegger there is. You hear me? Yeah, I would have had. Hey, I would have had the best rum, like. Hey, what's the two brothers from. From sinners.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I know you talking about.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I forgot the twins name. Incentives. Boy. Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, I grew up, I grew up in, in the late 60s, early 70s. And I know how hard we had it. I know what my grandmother, how my grandmother said they doing, you know, five, ten loads of laundry for a quarter a day. Man, please.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A quarter?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Where do you think black people ate all those crabs? You wasn't getting steak. You wasn't hamburger. You had to eat oxtail. You had to eat neck bone. That's what pig feet, chitlins, pigtails. That's where that came from.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All of what people thought they were. You getting ribs? Beef ribs?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, hell no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'll let you have that one. So you go back there, let me know, Let me know what it's like.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I don't. Listen, I'm, I'm talking about the price. I ain't talking about what you had to deal with. I'm just talking about the numbers. That's it. What.

[Odoo Business Software Promoter]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you gonna get. So you think you're gonna be able to go back there with the money you got now and if you transport yourself.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I ain't say I wanted to go back there. I said, living today. Could you imagine if the prices were as low and affordable as they were back then? That's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell no. That. That's impossible.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I, I, I know that. I, I know that. I'm just, I'm just saying everybody complained about everything today. Oh, the price of eggs. Oh, milk so goddamn high. Eggs. See how much eggs are? I Mean, yeah, of course. I'm. That's why I'm just saying in general, what if it was a little bit more affordable where people weren't living goddamn paycheck to paycheck.

[Shannon Sharpe]

People have been living paycheck to paycheck. What you mean they, they ain't just started, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I know, I know. I'm just saying it'd be a little. It'd be a little easier. That's why you need the right people in position of power that make the calls.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But every time you say you get the right people, they could be. They get corrupted too. Because how you think they got the power.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad you know. See, that's why I stay out of politics. Because you got to be. You got to be crooked. You can't never be straight and be in the politics.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like I said, look, I remember when I was a kid, minimum wage with 3:30 was 337 an hour. I was a kid. I was a kid 40 years ago. 50 years ago.

[Chad Ochocinco]

God damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So now, yeah, but now, Ocho, guess what? It's 725.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Talk about 50 years ago. It's only game. It's only gone up, you know, it's double. What the hell is. What kind of bull job is that? Now you look at CEOs, COOs, and you look at everybody else's income, it's going up exponentially. So. And that's what, that's why people say they live in paycheck to paycheck, because a lot the people that was here. Yeah, money has gone here. People that was here, Money hadn't gone nowhere.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, it's. It's a dirty prices home.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't buying no home now for no $5900. Nah, I mean, pretty soon the average house of a home gonna damn near cost you a million dollars. Who the hell gonna be able to afford the American dream?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Pretty soon they're gonna tell you to stop dreaming. Don't dream no more because that issue ain't coming true.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You, you know, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. You know what? When I'm gonna have my sister to send my thing because I remember I got a, when I was working, I got a, a W2 form from 1977.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn you, you still got it. Yeah, well, you keep every goddamn thing, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How Many, how many 9 year olds you know got a W2 form? I was working. I've been working all my life. That's all I know. That's been people like, well, I got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I got, I got. I got a better one for you. How Many, how many 2 year olds you know had cable and a washing machine and dryer in their name?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We didn't even have cable. You couldn't get cable in the country back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Matter of fact, I had bad credit before I could walk. How about that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, they got you. They got you. Yeah, I mean, the old American dream, huh? What the question is, who's dreaming it in? Which America is it?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's a good one. Come on, now. It ain't got to be Sunday for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You to preach, man, please, man, please. But I remember my grandmother. My grandfather left my grandma in debt, like $2,500. Well, you know how I remember last. My sister. My grandma told my sister, this is the last payment, ain't it, Libby? She like, yes, ma'. Am. Man, it took us like, took where? It took my grandma, like 10 years, 15 years to pay off $2500. You gotta realize my grandma wasn't making about 197 every two weeks.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How the hell you gonna feed me, Spanky? Libby, at the time, Marinell Gladys lived at the house for probably about a year that she left with Chicago with.

[Chad Ochocinco]

My mom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sherman and Jane. How the hell you gonna feed that? $5 here, $10 there. That's why we worked in the summer. Or we got little side jobs picking up pecans, clipping onions, right? That's why we chipped in. Because we saw how hard it was for Granny to try to. Man run out of gas. We used to have a big propane thing they don't have anymore, but they used to have. We used to have a big. A 200 gallon propane tank.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You run out of gas, Ocho? Well, Granny ain't got no money. You got no. But pay. Me and my brother have to go down there, chop down the tree, cut it up, pull the stuff, put the heater from the fireplace, put it down, Boom. You don't know how many times me and my brother don't put baked sweet potatoes in the hot ashes. Let them cook. Cause we ain't got no gas. Stove don't work, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, please. People can't tell me nothing about no hard time. I ain't telling what somebody told me when somebody was talking about. I'm talking about the 70s and 80s. I lived it. Yeah, People talk about. Oh, I lived it. So when people talk about hard times, man, please. What we got here? Ian Rappaport reports that the Giants are expected to look at all options. If they get their hands on the top pick in April Rapaport, expect them to evaluate all options, including looking at Fernando Mendoza, before they make the decision on how they're going to proceed if they have this pick. Dart said this week he hadn't heard much from the report, but made it clear he sees he's the future in New York. I'm going to continue to play ball, play my ball. I know I'm going to be here for a very long time. I'm excited to start winning more games and turn this place around, do my job. We have a bright future and I'm standing on the sideline watching Abdul ball, watching da ball Scat was. Was here today. When you think about this rookie class, we have a really bright future and we're going to do really big pivot and turn this thing around.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oo yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For me, it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It wouldn't make any sense that. It wouldn't make any sense, but go ahead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo what you thinking?

[Chad Ochocinco]

It wouldn't make any sense at all. You got something special in Jackson Darp. Now we, we get. We could, we could pull the reigns back on him a little bit and get him to be a little bit more cautious in the way he plays back position. You know, he gonna be all right, but he brings something that. Listen, I like McD. I like McDoza. I like him. But he's not Jackson dark. He's not going to breed that kind of excitement and put what's in the seat like Jackson D goddamn Scatterboat can do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope, he not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He definitely. He definitely not. Completely different individual. If you listen to his interviews on. He's not ready for that New York media. That ain't. That ain't for him. That ain't for him. Jackson daughter is perfect for that situation. He's perfect for that atmosphere, that environment, being in New York, that is the perfect place for him. He's gonna be all right. We just, you just gotta. We gotta tone some things down in his game and he gonna be all right. Other than that. That, that, that. That's all but all that looking all they can. They can check all the options and every. Every other area except quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho. The Buffalo Bills are asking fans to help shovel snow at High Mark Stadium before this weekend's game. Anyone 18 years of older get 20 per hour with food and hot beverage provided. Ocho. I'd have been there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wait, how much?

[Shannon Sharpe]

20 an hour.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, what time is stadium open?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna get that. Oh, and food.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, I don't need no food. Give me. Give me a hot dog. Give me. Give me a hot dog and some hot cocoa. I got you 20 hours. I'd be there all day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, you do realize blizzies are food, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

My bad. That's a snap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They probably play. They say they play you in glizzies.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's fine. Oh, no, they. Oh, no, I'm getting my 20 hours. Don't do that. I'm gonna get my 20 an hour and I want to make sure I spend it. I want to spend it. I want to be there all day too, because.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you want to go to the game?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No. Hey, young, you want to go out there?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where?

[Chad Ochocinco]

And go shovel?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. That have been some great content now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, it ain't gonna be that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Shoveling snow 20 hour.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. I don't done that. See, I don't know if you really done manual labor, but when you've done manual labor for over a decade. You good on it? You cool on it?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I did. I was. I did construction work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I did landscape it. Did all that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Poor comfort. Concrete, late asphalt. Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Landscaping. Uncle, I was cutting grass at 8 years old. That was part of my chores on Saturday. Yeah, I had a lawnmower.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I'm glad. I'm glad they let you get to be eight before you started doing it. That's damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What we talking about. My grandma had me out there in her rose bed. I'm the one that had to dig. I'm the one that had to dig them holes in the garden. Yes, I know, but I know about manual labor day out there with the guard gloves on that don't fit. Three. Three sizes too big.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, you had gloves and everything. Damn, you're a real worker. Yeah, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I still. Hey, I still got calluses on my hand from laying bricks. What we talking about? Look at this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, when you using that hammer or that shovel and you ain't got no gloves that first day them hang bad your hands hurt so bad like. Lord, I sure hope I ain't got to go in the morning. All right, I'll see you boys tomorrow. Damn. Yeah, I sure want to tell Grant. I don't want to go back, son. Going to get. Hey, son. Going out there, that's a good piece of job. You mean it's a good piece of job working 12 hours a day for 10, 15. You think that's good? Hey, where else you gonna make that kind of money, boy? My grandma. Hey, look here, man. You could have worked 15, man, can you $5? Well, that's. That's. That's good money. What I mean, you do. I understand, Granny. You work and it was a quarter for all they load that loads of laundry that you and Grandma Lou and Annie May had to do. Granny, that was 50 years or 40 years ago. That's 50 years ago, right? $2 ain't a lot of money, Granny.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My grandpa thought any. Any denomination of money, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

It was good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes, yes. But. But that's where, you know, it come from. That's where how I'm wired. I'm a provider. There wasn't a whole lot, but, you know, working in the summer. We worked in the summer. We caught chickens once. Once to. Tobacco was over. We still caught chickens during the season. Come peek up, come pecan. Well, pecans were like in this. Like in this in the winter, picking a pecans. We did that. Then when spring come around, it was time to clip onions. Those by there. Your onions that y' all be eating or that? Yeah, yeah. That's what was in the field. You got 50 cent? You got 50 cent a. A hamper. I give I maybe a quick. You know, Ocho, I'll make me a quick.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

10, 15.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And you know what you could do with 15 back then?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know what I could do. Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

When I was a kid. Hey, you know what you can do with 15 back when I was a kid? Go to the Candy lady house. You know how much 15 can carry you at the Candy Lady House back in the 80s?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. $10. No $5. Cause 10 of it got to go to Granny. You got to help pay some bills. You ain't gonna just get all that money and just keep it for yourself.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that's what you thought?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, I'm not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

For me. For me, it was chore money, you know? It was chore money. I understand. Once I wash my clothes, once I cut that grass, once I get out there in that. In that rose bed, once I pick the mangoes that are. That are. That are ripe off the. That are ripe off the tree.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Once I sweep up some goddamn leaves, any leaves that was in the yard. Once I wash them cars. Come on, now. I know I got. I got me a good 10. 10, 15 coming. Nope, that can't tell me nothing. I hear that ice cream truck coming. Hey, I'm ready.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bad, please. Me and my brother was talking when he was out here. Said, man, he was looking at. He was walking around the house. He was in the backyard. He that sent my sister in law a picture. My, My niece, he's like, boy, we sitting on the back just talking.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Said man said, when you sit back here, what you think? I say, thank you. How fortunate and how blessed we are. I remember it used to rain. You have to go to the bathroom, be soaking wet. Ocho. Soaking wet. Mosquitoes. You in the south, mosquitoes are bad. I remember all that. And I'm just sitting on nice, nice. And I'm just sitting there just thinking, God, you've been better than me and I even deserve.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't even know what I did to deserve this favor, but I thank you so. Man, I just wish, I wish my girl, because she was. Man, I remember the first time I took my grandma to my house in Atlanta. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

She was pulling up cause she rolled with me, turned down the street like, Boy, you living here? I said, yes, ma'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Am.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I turn in there, pull up the driveway, hit the button, the garage go up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She walk in there, my sister come up, she's like, libby, this too much house. I never thought. I believe it. I never thought. I see, I see this day. She bragged about that. Everybody, all my uncles, all my aunts, people that she went to church with. You. I see that boy house. If she saw this one, Lord have mercy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what that remind me of too, Unc? While you sitting there explaining. Remember the American Gangster?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And Denzel called you with mom when she came.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And mama saw the house.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Remind me of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. That's exactly how my grandma was. Yeah. She's like, oh, she's like, man, she brags so much. Leave it. That boy got. I sure hate to have to clean this. I said, granny, I don't clean it. That's why I pay somebody. Hell to the dog. I'll do nothing. But it was. I mean, she was. She was just so proud. And man, that's why I'm so appreciative of everything, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know how hard I work to get in the position that I'm in. I don't take anything. I've never shied away from hard work. That's. That's what I know. Yeah. It's like, what you gonna do? I don't know what I would do. I don't know if I could just sit still and not do nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, wait, you. You like me. You know, I got 274 jobs. I can't. I can't see. I can't sit still. I can't I got to be. I got to be doing something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got to be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I got to be doing something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do, too. Yeah. I. I don't know if I could just. I don't know if I could just sit still. I got to do something. Even if I don't do number one day a week, I got to do something. I gotta. I gotta feel like I gotta get up to do something, because if I don't feel like I gotta get them, dude, I'm like, what's my purpose?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you gotta have a purpose.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I want you to make sure you keep the same energy, too. When we win a lotto, we win a lotto. I don't wanna hear nothing about, no, you taking a vacation. You ain't showing up because you just said you got to be doing something. So I want. When we. We hit for about maybe 6, 7, 800 million, make sure you show up on this show every Monday, every Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, hey, I'm gonna have. I'm gonna take some t. Cto.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What's that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Choice time off. PTO is paid time off. I'm taking CTO Choice time off. I'm headed. Hey, I'm leaving on the next plane. I don't know when I'll be back again. Right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's all right. Long as they got wi fi, you good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wherever you going, I'm gonna be connected to something, okay? I would be. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be plugged in. I promise you that, Ocho. I promise you that. All right, guys, we gonna get you here on the business. Top five final segment the evening. It's time for Q and A. Oh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boy, that was a good one. That was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Filthy. McNasty. When you guys watch film, what exactly are you looking for? Why watch so much film? Not want to be a football coach? I'm sure he could be a life coach with all that advice. Happy 2026, y'. All. What are we looking for? Well, it all depends because they break. They break the film down. Okay? You got first and 10. So they'll put all the plays down. So we go back four games. Do you look at what the defense they play on first and 10, then you'll go back and look at second, second and 10. Then you got second and second and 1 to 5. Then you got third and long. So third and 1 to 3, third and 3 to 5, third and long. So you breaking it down. Okay, now they gonna say, okay, red zone. I'm looking at what they play. When do they Play this coverage. I'm looking at the guy, okay, let's just say I got the Sam Backer. I'm looking at. I'm gonna watch for, like 10, 15 minutes. I'm gonna watch his feet. Are they staggered? Can I get a cue if he's blitzing, if he's dropping in coverage or is he sitting heavy to play, to try to stop the run, make sure he don't get. Don't get reached? So you look at the area of the field down in distance. So you looking at all that, the coverages that they play against, the formations. Then we got it. Formation. Okay? 21 personnel, they played this coverage. 11 personnel, which is one tight end, three wide receivers, they play this. Personnel, 12 personnel, they play this. So you're looking at coverages of what they play against certain formations of which what you see. So if we. Let's just say we want. We play in the Bengals. Yeah, we're going to go back. The Bengals play the Ravens. The Bengals played the Steelers. The Bengals played the Cowboys. The Bingos played the Bears. Okay? When they were in. When they played the Bengals, they in 12 personnel, they played this. When they played the Steelers, they played that. When they played this, they played that. So you got to look at all that. I remember. I memorized all the plays, right? All the plays. So all 150, 175 plays. I remember. That's why when John tells the story, we were in the AFC championship game, they called 324. Actually, we flipped the formation. It was 325, all pivot. And I was like, that's not in the game plan. It's not in the. I said, it's not in the game plan.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

As now you notice. Everybody noticed. Like, when I start getting animated, my voice gets high. It's not the game plan. It's not the game plan. It is now. Now go down there and get open. I was like, bro, you talk about get open. I could do a whole bunch of stuff. So. So that's mainly what we're looking for. We're looking at, like, certain formations. What kind of defense are they going to play to this formation? Where are we? Are we at first down? We're second down. We're third down. Where are we? Are we backed up? We're at midfield. We're in the red zone plus territory. And you got to remember, just like that. So they call the plate. They call a play.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got to recall.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm going to. I'm going to. Okay, they played this. They played this. Coverage. This is primary what they played, but they did get a couple of snaps of this, and you got to just. Just like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep. You got to recall it right away. The funny thing about it is when you think about the game of football and. And the way you've just explained it, it's a thinking man game, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

People. People in chat. You know, I know you're watching. You watch it from home, but you're not understanding up here upstairs. You got to be moving fast. You got to be thinking fast. You got to be able to read and react because some sometimes, the way Unk just explained it, sometimes they'll throw you a little wrinkle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Exactly.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What you think is coming based on down the distance. What you see, they throw something else out there, and you got to be. You got to be able to read and react on the run and be able to adjust based on what they doing. All within standing, timing of the offense. And the play that's called.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Steelers got me. The Steelers was really the team that confused me because I didn't understand. Steelers used to be a heavy cover two teams, but when they played us, they played cover six. Now I'm looking at the backside safety, and he's wide, but I'm looking at the front side safety, he's still in the hatch. You don't get why. So what they're doing, they're playing quarters to my side. They're playing half the field to the backside. And I'm like. And. And. And they kept asking me, said, why am I not getting wide? Why am I not getting wide? I said, because the safety is on the damn hash. He not splitting. I'm not reading it as cover two. It's cover six. And so which means quarter, quarter, half. If you notice, like when you hear quarters, corner, have a quarter to feel. Yeah, one path safety, have a quarter to feel. He has a quarter to feel. He has a quarter to field 25. We just call it 25. They call it quarters now, Ocho. Yes. Cover five, which is two man under three. Two. That's cover five. So cover two, obviously, shell, you know, split safeties, cover one, single, high, cover three. You know, you rock and roll the safety. You come down, you have the safety in the hole. But you play a strong, strong coverage or weak coverage, it's just like. But you got to be thinking, not only. I got to remember the coverage, okay, this is the play. This is the coverage that I'm expecting to get. But if I don't get that, because in the west coast system. You got. You got a adjustment, right? Basically on everything.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, always.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Am I. Am I. Am I setting it up? Am I getting down the hole? Am I keeping up the seam? Am I breaking it out? And I gotta just remember that. And I got Just like that. All the while, this dude, he got. He got hands on me, like, ah. I'm trying to get off him. John. I gotta speed up because I know them guys trying to knock John head off. It's just a lot going on, right? Lanny Ray. Happy New Year, guys. Thanks to my nightcap fam for helping me get through the toughest year. My question is, did y' all make a New Year's resolution? You got New Year's resolution, Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hell, no. I ain't need to make one. I ain't never made one. I'm consistent in all that I do. Why I don't have to make resolutions. I'm very consistent. I'm very disciplined in certain areas, you know? But no, I don't. I don't make resolutions. I'm not sure why people do as well, because you got to be real with yourself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I am.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How consistent are you? Everybody, easy. Everybody make a New Year's resolution in January. By the time they get. By the time they get to goddamn February, they done fell off. They didn't fell off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I gotta be a couple I got. Because of revolution. I don't want to say it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, what you got? What you working with? What you think about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'll let you know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. If you. You don't feel comfortable sharing it with it with the church, don't worry about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, I might show up with a little one. You never know about. You never know about.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait. You never know about.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you. You mumble that. I. I could have swore you say I might show up, like, with a little one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you never know, Ocho, what kind of.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, when you say little one, what you talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You talk about like, well, you need Huggies. Okay, okay, okay. All right. There we go. Hey. Okay. Okay. You sure you. Hey, you do that? I' ma show you twins. Yeah, I like. I like. I like where you're going. I like where you're going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nick Marsh. Oh, thank you for the words last night. I caught the show live very well. 2025 was rough year. Said tomorrow isn't promised. Very close family member. Took her own life this morning. I'm with you when you're right. Nick. I am so sorry to hear that, bro. I Am so sorry. I know that leaves a lot of questions for the family, but sometimes the pain is. They're trying to get out of the pain and this is. That's the only way that they know how. And I am so sorry, bro, but we're praying for you here at Nightcap. Be quiet. Yeah. 70 year old dad. I'll be going to graduation. I'll be. Hey, O.J. i'll be. I'll be playing college graduation with Social Security. I want my Social Security. All that money I don't put in there talking about they might run out. Don't run out before it's about time to get mine.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Oh, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let my kids run out with my. On my kid. Let me get mine. They ain't put that much in yet.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They think they slick, but.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nick, thoughts. Thoughts and prayers go to you, bro. I am so sorry to hear this about your family, man. But I just want you to know our thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family. And you have our deepest sympathies and well wishes. Bryce, listen to me now. After they call targeting on ISS strong safety. I knew it was over. That's the weakest position. Johnny, what'd you say about Gunner's performance? Who got targeted? Who got a targeting call?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Number 20, right from Georgia. No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You ain't think that was targeted?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You hit him in the head.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, it was. It was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you can't. Just because you didn't use your helmet, that don't mean you. You can't hit him in the head of the neck area, even with your shoulder.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, it's tough. Hey, well, defense, defenders in general are handicapped.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Level and the NFL level.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mike Jones. Mikey Jones. Are we sure Trinidad Chambers isn't the best quarterback in the draft? No, we're not sure. I mean, everybody's gonna go through their proper evaluations. We'll see. I was very impressed. I've been very impressed with this young man all year. You know, obviously we, you know, we talk about a lot about the sec. We talk about a lot of the Big Ten, so we get an opportunity to see him and I got opportunity to see him against Georgia and some of these other teams. And so I've been very impressed with him. His ability to throw on the run and be able to make NFL throws. That's what impressed me tonight. He. Look, we know Georgia got guys on that defense that's going to be playing on Sunday. We. We have the utmost respect For Kirby, because we know he get great talent and he coaches them up well. The throws that Trinidad Chambers was making tonight, out running, I mean, hey, outrunning some of those fast ass linebackers and D linemen to get to the edge and drop dimes, reverse field, come back, throw on ropes. He's very, very, very impressive. I think, you know, NFL teams going to take another look at him. It's like, okay, this guy can play for us. OG underscore Thanos 26. Do the college Football playoff bracket need to be tweaked with teams having first round buyers being 1 and 7 since last year? I mean, it's just like, I mean, it happens. So you just want them to start playing, right. I think the thing is that's the whole reward for being a top seed is that you get an extra week of rest. But I guess, you know, you're looking.

[Chad Ochocinco]

At it like they offer everybody Indiana.

[Shannon Sharpe]

One hell out of Alabama. Yeah. I don't know how you can tweak it. I think the thing is, unless you just have them play right away because, you know, you hear some coaches saying, we want to be. Oh, done by Jan first. Oh, so they got two more games to be played. Yeah. I mean, you got a semifinals and a finals.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And what is the. What are the semifinals? Is it next week or the. The night? Oh, that's the night. That's next week. I don't know why the hell that's.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wait, the night.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, the eight.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Miami.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This week or next week? This week. A week from today. Okay. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And then Oregon, Indiana is on Friday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow. Okay, Keenan.m3685, man, no matter who playing or the level UNC and OO are to go to for late night salute. Y' all a fan forever. Keenan, Appreciate that, bro. We appreciate the support, appreciate your eyes, we appreciate your ears, and we definitely appreciate your word of mouth. Because it's because of people like yourself that we're able to continue to grow and continue to be prosperous. So thank you very much, man. Kaleidoscope 1. Keep that same energy you have for Bama and TTU what you have for James Madison. Tell until Ocho Milk Dud Bean head to stop ducking FIFA Gold Ducks Dukes. Oh, he a James Madison fan. Oh, man, you know y' all ain't had no business being there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, just like Alabama, they won the game, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Remember that? They did win a game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm just saying. But still, they had no business being there. Just like Alabama.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Alabama had every reason to be there. The Florida man up for head coach at Bama? No chance. I don't want to live in Alabama.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What's wrong with that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Alabama?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I grew up in the country. I ain't trying to live in the country no more.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You didn't been in the city long enough?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I ain't been sitting. Not long enough.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Every time. Every time a coaching gig come come up, man, there's an opportunity for you. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Opportunity for me?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Are you steady? Closing the door that God opened now?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He ain't open it. He opened something else for me. There you go, man. I'm trying to talk about a door. I'll talk about another door. There you go, man. Y' all don't listen to Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Junior underscore three. OSU, Georgia, Bama all gone. New day for D1 football. Yeah, the blue bloods out of it. No Bama, no Georgia, no Ohio State. Got Ole Miss. Got Indiana.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. College playoffs looking a little different this year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man. Y' all don't be following up with Ocho, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, hey, you know what? I forgot? You know, I. I forgot to say what? Yeah, I forgot to tell the chat, man. I forgot to tell the chat. Happy New year. I remember 2025 like it was yesterday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man, that was you. I was supposed to be going to a wedding. I ain't going to the wedding. Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who win? I. I know you talking about mine because I'm. I told you. I'm getting married in 2026.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know you supposed to get married in 2025. I had. I had my white linen. I was gonna be walking barefoot on the beach. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, but, you know, h. Hey, you know how life is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Life is. I know how it is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Life. Life and life. And life. Yeah, it do that. You do that. But. But this is the good thing about life, you know, is. Is if it don't work out that time, you know, God always puts something else on your plate that you can eat off of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We know you like to eat.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, but who you telling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We know you. That's one thing about Ocho. Ocho always clean his plate.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, Every time. You know, I got. I used to get knee pads for Christmas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I believe it, too, Man, the way you be eating off plates. I thought you have a Grizzly Adams by now, being way down here. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I keep it. I keep it clean for a reason.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? What's the day? The day? The first. I got six more days. It'll be a month. What you think, Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, but you clean, Unc. Hey, matter of fact. Hey, you was on the shade room, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boy, the comments. Boy, the women love that salt and pepper.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy, what shade room for.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, it was just. I think I told a joke or something. Hey, boy, they like. Hey, they were like, oh, boy. We like that salt and pepper now. We. We. Yeah, we could. Hey, we could do a little something with you now. Yeah, they like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What if I get rid of beer to just get the goatee?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, they. I think they like the whole thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The whole thing?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, they like. They like the chin strap. They like the chin strap and all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, okay. Man, my grandma rolling over in the grave, she said, I sure don't like no beards. I agree with you. In 2008 was the fastest usain boat ran. Yeah, that was special. I just. I just, you know, he wasn't thinking at the time. I understand the jubilation because he was so excited he was about to win the gold medal, yada, yada, yada. But, man, if he had ran through that tape like he did in Germany.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I still. I still believe the time that he ran in Beijing would have been faster than the time that he ran in. In. In Germany. That's just me. But. Hey, Ms. Patrice. Oregon wins a big game and no love over here. Great job. My Ducks. No, they. They look. They play. They can't play like they played today and beat Ole Miss. I mean, you look at a 47 carry, 64 yards, they didn't run the ball extremely well. It's gonna be interesting. Ole Miss can put points on the board. That defense came to play today, did a great job of neutralizing Texas Tech offense, but this performance today won't get it done next week. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But I'm gonna be glued. I'm gonna be glued to the television. I can't wait to watch.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Sean underscore show. Oh, Show. What's. What's one stat fans overrate and one stat they ignore that actually predicts winning.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, turnovers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Honestly, that's the greatest predictor.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's the greatest. Greatest.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Especially once it comes playoff time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because the momentum flips so quick.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Very quick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

More so. Probably more so in the postseason in football. Ocho, because home field.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you mess around and turn the ball over a couple of times, and you on the road.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's a wrap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, the momentum flips so quick. I mean, because think about it. Ole Miss had had the momentum look like. And then all of a sudden, Georgia got a PI. Go down three and out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right back down again.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Just that fast.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just that fast.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You don't even need help in general, the momentum, the football games. Matter of fact, the momentum to any sport, the momentum is going to shift. The pendulum is going to shift at some point. You don't need to help that momentum by having a turnover or making mistakes. So especially come postseason time, man, you pay double for that stuff. Man, you pay double for it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bucket. Get a junior. Still don't understand why Georgia blitz that last play killed my parlay. God. They wanted to make a decision quick. They. You don't want him to sit right. You don't want to. I want to make him to make a decision because think about it. I understand you blitz. But he still got to make a perfect throw and the guy got to catch it. The last thing I want him to do, I want to make him make a decision right now. Ocho, I can't let. I can't let that guy run around and have all day and buy time. Nah, you can make a decision right now. Shook for rookie of the year. Oh, Happy new year. If Shook beats the fail cons and end the season with a five game winning streak, does he win rookie of the year? I think he had a great chance. I really think it's out of him and McMillan and Carolina.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they t generally Lint leans towards the quarterback always. But he's played well. Now everybody's talking about him and the numbers that he put up against the Titans. But they kill Shador for the same number. Should do it through for more yards and everybody say it ain't nobody but the Titans. Y'. All. I forgot y' all said that. Right. Y' all don't, don't forget anything. This is the same team, the Titans, Tyler shook through for 330 yards and they won't. Yeah, should do it through for 364. And then all of a sudden his quarterback, his coach wanted to run the wildcat. But yes, he's impressed me. I got no problem. Maybe I was wrong about him. Let's see this thing play out. But he's played well enough to get another to come in as the incumbent quarterback.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And see if he can lead this team. I know Kelly Moore has the utmost faith in him. Kelly Moore is dialed up some great plays and he's run the offense great. Go get your running back and get you some offensive line help. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. We really, really appreciate that very, very, very interesting game. University of Georgia falls to the Ole Miss Rebels by the score of 39 to 34. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. That's my partner and co host, Liberty City's own bingo ring of fame honoree. A former pro bowler and an all Pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And we want to thank our college football guy joining us tonight, Johnny Manziel. Make sure you subscribe to his podcast Glory Days and find him on YouTube. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. We really, really appreciate that in 20, 26 and 25, 24 and 23. All of this is because of you. All the awards, all the fanfare, all the adulations that talked about, that's because of our fans are very devoted and very supporting. So Ocho and I and the Nightcap family can't thank you enough. You're looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by laportier and you can't find it in a state or city near you, head to leportier.com to order you a bottle. It is a premium VSOP. We have the OG, which is the 750. Now we have the 375. Same great quality, same great taste, same smoothness. Compared against other cognacs, you'll see that it is the best tasting, smoothest cognac on the market. Please drink responsible. Stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned into the chat. As we mentioned before, the Ole Miss Rebels moves on to the semifinals thanks to a 392034 victory over the University of Georgia. Alabama was routed by Indiana and The Rose Bowl, 38 to 3. Heisman Trophy winner through three touchdowns, Fernando Mendoza. Indiana takes on Oregon in the Fiesta bowl as they swarmed Texas Tech by the score of 23 to nothing. So you get Ole Miss and the University of Miami and. Yeah, and you get Oregon and Indiana in the Peach bowl with the winner. Where's the. Where's the championship game here? Ain't gonna be hell in Atlanta. Oh, Miami. Okay, so. So that's it. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm unk. He's oo. We'll see you tomorrow. Oh, tomorrow, Friday we off? No, we'll see you Saturday. Sorry.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Saturday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sorry. I thought today. I thought today was. I'm all off. I'm sorry. You get a break from OO and I. We'll see you Saturday. Tomorrow with peace.

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